Idol Headlines for 10/23/09

Jim and David caroling through the halls of MTV…

jambajim: Who wants to watch @DavidArchie and I sing Xmas carols? Yay: http://tinyurl.com/yk4vga6

I didn’t see this elsewhere:

AimeeMayo “Sleep Walker” is the title of our song that Adam cut. I am seeing it on blogs… This waiting is killing me. Please let it be on CD!!!!!!!!

ETA:
FYE is now #4 on Amazon, with Rob/Bob green and happily pointing upwards!!

Danny has signed with RLM/Mission Managment. They are going to be working with 19/RCA. They also manage country artists Darryl Worley and country duo Caitlin and Will.

http://www.musicrow.com/2009/10/mission-management-gets-gokey/

Best day yet for LLWD on radio yesterday. 221 spins yesterday; 1143 for the week.

#37 on HAC, #49 on Top 40. New stations are starting to spin it every day.

jambajim: Who wants to watch @DavidArchie and I sing Xmas carols? Yay: http://tinyurl.com/yk4vga6

Hee, too cute. Archie is just the cutest thing.

Best day yet for LLWD on radio yesterday. 221 spins yesterday; 1143 for the week.

#37 on HAC, #49 on Top 40. New stations are starting to spin it every day.

Anyone know where it is on I-tunes today?

alaadam
October 23, 2009 at 10:09 am

Best day yet for LLWD on radio yesterday. 221 spins yesterday; 1143 for the week.

#37 on HAC, #49 on Top 40. New stations are starting to spin it every day.

Anyone know where it is on I-tunes today?

LLWD is #126 on the all around chart for Itunes.

Alaadam: Currently #127 – I saw it as high as #116 yesterday, but dropped down overnight. It’s showing signs of life as the airplay picks up. It was in the low 140′s just a few days ago.

# 125 in itunes

I’m not a country fan but I just hear Tim McGraw sing a song called “Live like you were Dying” on the Today Show and was struck by how similar the title and chorus lyrics are to the Kris Allen song.

Best day yet for LLWD on radio yesterday. 221 spins yesterday; 1143 for the week.

However, audience decreased for the first time:

Audience: 5.648 (-0.071)

Oh, I totally LOVED Jim and Archie Christmas caroling for Halloween! I know MJ will feature that, so I’ll wait on further comment.

I’ll cave and buy his album and I’ll probably gift it and Dylan’s (CDs, not downloads) to my brother who LOVES everything Christmas. His hubby is going to cringe though.

Heartbeat FM will be spinning tracks from David’s Christmas CD on their radio show this weekend…

This Week In The Heartbeat Cafe: Pat Marino celebrates Christmas a little early, with a very special preview of David Archuleta’s new release “Christmas From The Heart.” On Sunday October 25th Pat Marino will dedicate the first hour of his radio show “The Heartbeat Cafe” to playing his favorite cuts off of “Christmas From The Heart.” Pat is hoping that he will be one of the first DJ’s to give radio airplay to some of David’s new Christmas songs and is sure that his listening audience here at Heartbeat will love these songs as well. So don’t miss this very special edition of The Heartbeat Cafe with Pat Marino.

http://www.heartbeatfm.biz/heartbeatcafe.htm

Audience: 5.648 (-0.071)

I’m not an expert, but that should correct soon – Z100 is spinning it a little less now although it’s still #9 on their playlist. Many more new stations are picking it up so that will more than make up for it.

Many more new stations are picking it up so that will more than make up for it.

*And* be better for sales, most likely, than having so many of the spins be in one city.

Best day yet for LLWD on radio yesterday. 221 spins yesterday; 1143 for the week.

#37 on HAC, #49 on Top 40. New stations are starting to spin it every day.

Heard it twice w/i 12 hours a few days ago in the DC area. I don’t listen to radio too much so don’t know if they are increasing the spins just yet or if it was sort of a test of the song’s likability.

Kris was interviewed on the beach in FL surrounded (uncomfortably?) by Dolphins Cheerleaders, wearing the awesome x shirt from rock week. Hope they have a few days off before their performance Sunday!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o88YdpaS9g4

Does anyone know what he was on amazon before. For his album that is. I was looking today and he was #76 in music, #36 in Rock and #72 in pop. Is that what it’s been for awhile or has it gone up or down.

My friend who works in radio in a small market said they just added LLWD this week. They’re a Clear Channel group and she said Clear Channel’s “Premium Hits” service added it as well, which is I guess their “syndication” arm (what airs when the local djs aren’t on)?

Can someone explain how audience is calculated? Is it an estimation of who is actually listening or just potential size based on actual market size/population?

Tweet from Jim, I don’t get it:

@jambajim Walmart listed new Kris Allen songs, and my fave is still not mentioned. Unless they changed the title???

What “Walmart listed”?

Heard it twice w/i 12 hours a few days ago in the DC area. I don’t listen to radio too much so don’t know if they are increasing the spins just yet or if it was sort of a test of the song’s likability.

gabilan - what DC stations? I’ve been listening for it too. Thanks!

On amazon Allisons album is #89 in music, Rock 46 and Pop 86. Also the price for Kris’s is the same as Allisons $12.99.

LLWD is up for adds on CHRISTIAN contemporary per this advert on all access.
Good move, Jive since about 4 stations are already playing it.

http://www.allaccess.com/christian

Unless Jim is referring to this (from Kris’s album page on Walmart.com):

1. (Untitled Track)

2. Before We Come Undone

3. (Untitled Track)

4. (Untitled Track)

5. (Untitled Track)

6. Bring It Back

7. Red Guitar

8. Is It Over

9. Let It Rain

10. (Untitled Track)

11. Lifetime

12. (Untitled Track)

13. (Untitled Track)

Walmart is listing a couple bonus tracks on two different LP’s. One is titled “Send Me All Your Angels”. If this is a co-write with Jon Foreman of Switchfoot, and if I were one of Kris’ marketing people, I would release this tune to Christian Contemporary Radio as a single – I think Kris could do very well in that format. He could have two singles out simultaneously to two different audiences.

Mary102: the list is on the walmart site. It lists 14 tracks, most of which we already know from Jim, Slezak and Lyndsey.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=13032167
Click album details

ETA: sorry, I see you beat me to it yourself!

Walmart has his album up on there list and it shows the # and some songs. That’s what Jim is talking about.

funny tweets today from alex and kris…these guys crack me up!

alexWTrugs
@KrisAllen4Real lets go clubbing. ill get some glo-sticks.

KrisAllen4Real
RT @alexWTrugs: @KrisAllen4Real lets go clubbing. ill get some glo-sticks. I’ll bring my dancing shoes.

@KrisAllen4Real sweet, ill bring a girl i want you to meet. shes great for the clubs, cuz all she wants to do is dance dance dance…

I’m not a country fan but I just hear Tim McGraw sing a song called ‘Live like you were Dying’  on the Today Show and was struck by how similar the title and chorus lyrics are to the Kris Allen song.

Perception is everything, I love Tim McGraw, and I love “Live Like You Were Dying,” and to me, it doesn’t sound anything like Kris’ song. Besides that, it’s not uncommon for songs to have similar titles, it’s not the end of the world. Tim’s song has been out for five years, so I’m pretty sure that it’s not going to have too much of an impact on Kris’ songs. At the most, fans of Tim’s song may check it out, since the titles are similar.

I love when Idols tweet to each other it’s so funny.

Ahh I love that MTV vid of archie and jim <3

Does anyone know what he was on amazon before. For his album that is. I was looking today and he was #76 in music, #36 in Rock and #72 in pop. Is that what it’s been for awhile or has it gone up or down.

I checked just last night and I think Kris was somewhere in the 80s then if I’m remembering correctly. He’s definitely headed up the list.

I wonder what we have to do to get Jim to fork over the other 55 minutes? Jim? Name your price, buddy.

Mary102: gabilan – what DC stations? I’ve been listening for it too. Thanks!

It was B101.5 (actually Fredericksburg, but I’m told it covers the DC metro area as well.)

ETA: This was about 2 days ago. LLWD played at 2:30pm, then again at 2:30am (I was streaming it on my computer while cruising MJs late night. Love my life!)

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/10/23/david-archuleta-christmas/

RT @jambajim: I blogged about @DavidArchie’s visit! & we’ll be posting my sit-down int w him next wk.

jambajim: Who wants to watch @DavidArchie and I sing Xmas carols? Yay: http://tinyurl.com/yk4vga6

Well, that was kind of funny. Was Jim throwing packing peanuts around? I love the gifting of random X-mas CD’s. That guy who wanted Archie to sing O Holy Night looked like he was going to swoon. Heh.

Oh …

Female Staffer to Archie: and here’s one for you of Micheal Jackson in Hawaii.
Archie: What?

gabilan – what DC stations? I’ve been listening for it too. Thanks!

Me too – like I did with David, I’ll specifically listen to a channel if I know it might play an artist I want to hear

ETA: Thank you — 101.5 is the one channel I haven’t tried lately, lol. Figures!

It was B101.5 (actually Fredericksburg, but I’m told it covers the DC metro area as well.)

Thanks, gabilan! My main “idol” channels in the DC area are 107.3 and 99.5. They play a ton of idol music, but no Kris yet. I won’t even touch 97.1 (I think that’s an AC channel). That’s like dentist office music.

Best day yet for LLWD on radio yesterday. 221 spins yesterday; 1143 for the week.

All his promotions seem to be paying off.

Awe I love me some David A. And he mentions Allison. So cute.

Sassycatz – Those were cotton balls, not packing peanuts. lol

Kris…I luvs you, but someone needs to get you to loosen up. I watched the cheerleader vid and I was so uncomfortable. It isn’t the end of the world if a married entertainer puts his arms around two nice looking (and obviously props) young ladies and looks like he is happy to be there with some eye candy. I know this is Kris’ first go round in the spotlight, but I also know thousands of young men who, instinctuatively, would just have been more at ease and would have embraced (figuratively and physically) the girls.

If Kris is uncomfortable with this he and his Peep need to speak up and not have the girls included in the first place. I just so want Kris to appear as a happy, excited AI winner who is enjoying his time in the Sun.

Some song titles hope to be on Adam’s “FYE” :

Obsession (Ryan Tedder, J_Skins)
Music Again** (Rob Cavallo, Justin Hawkins of the Darkness)
Suburban Decay (Rob Cavallo)
Winners** (Rob Cavallo)
What Ya Want From Me (Pink, Max Martin)
Strut** (Adam Lambert, Kara DioGuardi)
Loaded Smile (Adam Lambert, Linda Perry)
Aftermath (songwriters/producers unknown – might be the Lady Gaga track)
Entertainment** – (Claude Kelly/Dr. Luke)
Time For Miracles** (Rob Cavallo)
Sleep Walker – (Aimee Mayo, Chris Lindsay, Ryan Tedder)

Mary102, at least you have choices. 101.5 is seriously the only station I can get here in the radio wasteland between DC and Richmond that isn’t Country or Christian… no offense intended to Country and Christian radio listeners, of course.

I agree Tess – it was funny to watch, but not laughing out loud funny because he’s usually so touchy feely. I think part of the problem was that he couldn’t hear very well. He and the interviewer kept talking over each other. But he definitely could improve on the interviews. When he is relaxed he comes across so well – other times, it’s tough.

I think it’s great that he’s doing this tailgate Sunday for a totally different audience. And I have to reiterate my appreciation for the red x shirt from rock week….

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/10/23/david-archuleta-christmas/

“They don’t come sweeter than David Archuleta. I know Paula Abdul got a lot of flack for saying she wanted to decapitate the boy and dangle his head from her rearview mirror (as a compliment), but after spending time with him this week I know exactly where Paula is coming from. By the end of our hour together, I was looking all over MTV for a hacksaw.”

OMGosh! That Jim is hilarious! There’s way more at the link. Thanks, Froggie.

FYE is now #4 on Amazon, with Rob/Bob green and happily pointing upwards!!

YAY!!!

Woohoo for Kris too he was out of the top 100 for a while. The titles and covers are making a difference.

We need a Adam cover now.

I thought the interview with Kris and the cheerleaders was funny. He looked cold (I’m guessing it wasn’t cold) and uncomfortable with them. Actually looked like he was in a police lineup.

It was obvious that they were all having trouble hearing what was being said to them. But I got the impression he didn’t want Katy thinking he was enjoying being with those cheerleaders too much.

that mtv blog from cantiello about david a’s visit is full of win… excerpts here, read more at the link…

I took David around to Archie fans here at MTV. And, as I expected, they all turned to goo as soon as he appeared in their doorway, ready to serenade them
with his angelic pipes. But his appeal spread over to innocent bystanders as well.

Selfishly, it was a dream come true to get to harmonize with the ‘Idol’  superstar. His voice, rich and nuanced, sounded just as brilliant in person as it did on TV. Normally, I would make fun of my old pal Jeffrey for being such a drama queen, but damned if I didn’t also choke up when Archuleta fully immersed himself in a brilliant ‘O Holy Night,’  despite being surrounded by DigiBeta tapes in a drab office.
(And a jerky MTV News correspondent in a sweater and Santa cap.)

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/10/23/david-archuleta-christmas/

Mary102, at least you have choices. 101.5 is seriously the only station I can get here in the radio wasteland between DC and Richmond that isn’t Country or Christian’ ¦ no offense intended to Country and Christian radio listeners, of course.

I’m sorry I would not be happy with those options either (just not my cuppa).

Then again, radio anywhere is often lacking for me, which is why my ipod is my best friend in the car

Odd thought – Can you imagine David A and Allison dating…

I think I’ll post the Jim Cantiello blog too.

Oh….maybe not. heh

I love when Idols tweet to each other it’s so funny.

Yes, well, it took Kris less than a day to respond to Alex’s tweet, while poor Adam is still waiting for an answer after three days:

@KrisAllen4Real I love the canyon. That view is sick. How’d your rehearsal go yesterday?1:35 PM Oct 20th from Echofon in reply to KrisAllen4Real

asifclueless
October 23, 2009 at 11:04 am
Some song titles hope to be on Adam’s ‘FYE’  :

Obsession (Ryan Tedder, J_Skins)
Music Again** (Rob Cavallo, Justin Hawkins of the Darkness)
Suburban Decay (Rob Cavallo)
Winners** (Rob Cavallo)
What Ya Want From Me (Pink, Max Martin)
Strut** (Adam Lambert, Kara DioGuardi)
Loaded Smile (Adam Lambert, Linda Perry)
Aftermath (songwriters/producers unknown ‘“ might be the Lady Gaga track)
Entertainment** ‘“ (Claude Kelly/Dr. Luke)
Time For Miracles** (Rob Cavallo)
Sleep Walker ‘“ (Aimee Mayo, Chris Lindsay, Ryan Tedder)

Thank you for posting this, asifclueless! We’ve heard it all before, but it’s good to see it in one place.

These titles and collaborations make me insanely happy right now! Just reading these titles screams to me: ADAM MUSIC!!

Cannot wait!

On amazon Allisons album is #89 in music, Rock 46 and Pop 86. Also the price for Kris’s is the same as Allisons $12.99.

They’re both in the top 100 now, which might account for the prices being the same? Last I looked, Kris was #76, I think…..

For Kris, by the way, that’s significantly up from where he’s been in the past week or so — down around 100 or 110 or thereabouts.

Yes, well, it took Kris less than a day to respond to Alex’s tweet, while poor Adam is still waiting for an answer after three days:

@KrisAllen4Real I love the canyon. That view is sick. How’d your rehearsal go yesterday?1:35 PM Oct 20th from Echofon in reply to KrisAllen4Real

Lol, poor bb! Maybe Kris called him up instead. Aww, Kradam moment – yeah, that’s right, I miss them, and I’ll admit it

Oh goodness. Archie is love. I really really <3 him. I smiled or laughed the entire time. He's just this ray of sunshine…..and he really doesn't need anything to sound incredible. Jim is tall, but he looks scrawny against Archie. Wish he'd come to my office and sing some carols. And make me laugh with his awesome randomness. Oh, are we posting in the headlines thread before the headlines arrive? Cool.

Odd thought ‘“ Can you imagine David A and Allison dating’ ¦

Can you imagine their conversation? David A: “Oh gosh, heck…” Allison: “F*#k, &^)(%$ f*#k.”

BestAI
October 23, 2009 at 11:14 am
Odd thought ‘“ Can you imagine David A and Allison dating’ ¦

Can you imagine their conversation? David A: ‘Oh gosh, heck’ ¦’  Allison: ‘F*#k, &^)(%$ f*#k.’ 

That’s hilarious!

Aww, Kradam moment ‘“ yeah, that’s right, I miss them, and I’ll admit it

I don’t miss Kradam one bit.

I notice Adam’s other friends, like Alison Porter, responds very quickly.

asifclueless, one more to add to your list:

*title unknown* (adam lambert, allisan porter, ferras)

Maybe Kris just wasn’t happy with the idea that he was supposed to use the cheerleaders as props. They are actual living and breathing humans, afterall.

Odd thought ‘“ Can you imagine David A and Allison dating’ ¦

Can you imagine their conversation? David A: ‘Oh gosh, heck’ ¦’  Allison: ‘F*#k, &^)(%$ f*#k.’ 

LMAO!

over 60 comments on a headlines thread without headlines! (shaking head in awe)

haha, Jim was totally man-crushed on Archie ..Hope his wife wwas not jeolous. hahaa

LOL – I just noticed there wasn’t any headlines – I didn’t even realized I jumped right into the comments.

lol it is kinda funny… headlines with no headlines… ROFL

nvm – I’ll watch the video first

over 60 comments on a headlines thread without headlines! (shaking head in awe)

We’re goooood. MJ could probably save herself some time each morning. Sleep in. Go early Christmas shopping. We won’t mind. heee

seems like another slow day.

Odd thought ‘“ Can you imagine David A and Allison dating’ ¦

..no

Home today for a little while. Watching Martha Stewart teaching the gals how to coat things in glitter.

ptslittlecomment
October 23, 2009 at 11:29 am
Home today for a little while. Watching Martha Stewart teaching the gals how to coat things in glitter.

Why was Adam not booked for this show? That would have been priceless!

Home today for a little while. Watching Martha Stewart teaching the gals how to coat things in glitter.

Why was Adam not booked for this show? That would have been priceless!

The episode with Snoop Dogg was to funny.

will
“October 23, 2009 at 11:10 am
I love when Idols tweet to each other it’s so funny.

Yes, well, it took Kris less than a day to respond to Alex’s tweet, while poor Adam is still waiting for an answer after three days:

@KrisAllen4Real I love the canyon. That view is sick. How’d your rehearsal go yesterday?1:35 PM Oct 20th from Echofon in reply to KrisAllen4Real ”

May be Kris had already phoned Adam instead of just tweet back…

On the topic of idol to idol tweeting, or idols tweeting about idols, I find myself getting so annoyed at the barrage of tweets such as “hey (insert idol twitter name), why haven’t you commented yet on (insert another idol’s name and song).”

I’m all for them promoting each other when they want to, but to think that just because they haven’t tweeted their support, they haven’t actually congratulated/supported each other through private means is sort of silly. It’s happened back and forth as the singles were released, and will likely happen again as albums are released. Ultimately, they usually do tweet publicly about it – it might just be a couple days later. And in the end, maybe a little burst of Twitter PR is more helpful after the initial frenzy dies down.

OK, done venting. Thank you for your time.

The episode with Snoop Dogg was to funny.

I kinda like Snoop. One of my favorite episodes of “Just Shoot Me” was when he was on.

Off to search out Martha and Snoop on youtube… I hope it’s a good thing.

kt I agree with you… lol

Yes I think too that Kris wasn’t looking as confortable as usual.
He’s not very tall, so he was very close to those big boobs….just joking..

jms
October 23, 2009 at 11:19 am
asifclueless, one more to add to your list:

*title unknown* (adam lambert, allisan porter, ferras)

…………………..

Thanks, jms.
Could the title be -The Last Night on Earth or Hopeless Moments ?

On the topic of idol to idol tweeting, or idols tweeting about idols, I find myself getting so annoyed at the barrage of tweets such as ‘hey (insert idol twitter name), why haven’t you commented yet on (insert another idol’s name and song).’ 

That is annoying and childish. Congratulating someone via twitter has more to do with promoting yourself to and appeasing fans, than actually telling the other person how you feel, and some people are more into that than others.

Lindsey Rose is having a rough go of it lately. Your prayers & good thoughts are all appreciated. // *sending* ~L

This was tweeted by the Belchers, Lindsay Rose’s parents. She’s the little girl who is a big fan of David Cook’s and has been battling leukemia.

I like the title for the song “Red Guitar”. That grabs my attention.

When people complain about the tweeting habits of the idols and their circle of friends, I get my back up a little. Twitter is a public forum in which you must get your point across in 140 characters or less. It’s great for a quick “announcement” — here’s what I’m doing or here’s what I’m thinking about or laughing about or raging about or look at this video, picture, read this article, etc. It’s also great for people who want to do a bit of casual pimping of their product — I’m going to be at this radio station, my record is coming out tomorrow, etc.

What it’s not great for is having actual conversations. I’m guessing that Kris and Adam, heck maybe all of the top 10, or combinations of the top 10, actually have one another’s phone numbers. *Gasp* What a concept. Kris was clearly excited about the rehearsal and the new band. Perhaps he needed to share that excitement with his good friend using a medium with more than 140 characters, or one without characters at all.

I might have to leak the video of his reaction when I said the words “Christmas sweaters.” Priceless.)

Jim, I will follow you on twitter if you do that, puhleez!

Odd thought ‘“ Can you imagine David A and Allison dating’ ¦

Actually yes, opposites attract. She’s loud, and flamboyant, and irreverent, and he is shy, low key, and sweet. I think it would make an interesting duo. They’d make a really cute couple. They are both good looking, talented, twitter crazy kids. Match made in heaven, well, idol heaven….we should get this idea to the right people. Imagine their sit-com or reality series. Archie and Lava girl—–Together forever <3

Odd thought ‘“ Can you imagine David A and Allison dating’ ¦

Can you imagine their conversation? David A: ‘Oh gosh, heck’ ¦’  Allison: ‘F*#k, &^)(%$ f*#k.’ 

Uh, yeah, I don’t think it would work out.

“I don’t miss Kradam one bit.”

Bestai, I ain’t gonna lie, I don’t miss the public shipping of these two either. And I could care less about their tweets back and forth to each other. I’m a fan, not a personal friend.

On the other hand, posts about Adam’s song titles and collaborations, that’s exciting! I really hope RCA releases his single before This Is It opens, because when folks hit iTunes to purchase Time for Miracles, there has just got to be more Adam choices other than No Boundaries, Want and Is Anybody Listening?

Ok, and I love that there are already 76 comments in an empty headlines thread. Frickin’ hilarious.

Kris and Allison both have bands and already rehearsing with them. Adam is way behind.

Looks like all the 10 idols are keeping busy with a project or other

Notice Scott has a new twitter name; removed “Idol”.

Looks like Lil is in the studio too and had a meeting ???

Can’t believe Sarver still hasn’t reached his goal of 20,000 followers. Has anyone figured out how many Adam gains in a day? In an hour, give or take, Adam will have 214,000.

That is annoying and childish. Congratulating someone via twitter has more to do with promoting yourself to and appeasing fans, than actually telling the other person how you feel, and some people are more into that than others.

Well, I disagree with the above sentiment – I don’t really see it as wanting to promote themselves when they offer their congrats to someone else. In fact, I’m more inclined to think they’re being nice and supportive by letting their followers know about someone elses work. But YMMV.

However, I do agree that fans shouldn’t get ticked off because some idol hasn’t sent a congratulatory tweet to another idol. That’s just silly and petty. And I’m sure people are keeping score (rolls eyes) – who sent out congrats for Kris’s single? For Allison’s? For Adam’s? etc.

part of Snoop and Martha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ocre0kXgvg

The part where she reads his emails before she intrduce him is funny too you can search it out on youtube.

On the tweeting issue – Adam gave shout outs to Kris and Allison when their singles came out, expecting the same in return is not a crazy thought. Kris responds to almost every tweet from other idols, but he left Adam hanging, yeah we don’t know if he contacted him personally but if he’s contacting every one else via twitter, why not Adam.

No it’s not a big deal, but it’s an observation and it will have people wondering ‘ what’s up with that’.

Yes, well, it took Kris less than a day to respond to Alex’s tweet, while poor Adam is still waiting for an answer after three days:

@KrisAllen4Real I love the canyon. That view is sick. How’d your rehearsal go yesterday?1:35 PM Oct 20th from Echofon in reply to KrisAllen4Real

Lol, poor bb! Maybe Kris called him up instead. Aww, Kradam moment ‘“ yeah, that’s right, I miss them, and I’ll admit it

I miss them too.

What it’s not great for is having actual conversations. I’m guessing that Kris and Adam, heck maybe all of the top 10, or combinations of the top 10, actually have one another’s phone numbers. *Gasp* What a concept. Kris was clearly excited about the rehearsal and the new band. Perhaps he needed to share that excitement with his good friend using a medium with more than 140 characters, or one without characters at all.

Well said. People expect way too much out of Twitter. It is not meant as a personal form of communcation. If something personal needs to be said I’m sure it’s said in person or on the telephone.

Twitter is just another form of cyber stalking IMO.

Kris and Allison both have bands and already rehearsing with them. Adam is way behind.

Do we really know what the plans are wrt Adam, though? Especially since I haven’t heard anything about a band for him.

Just curious – I’m wondering what the standard practice is for acts like Britney, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, etc? Do they have a set “band” per se that always performs with them, or does their label just use different people depending on the needs of the performance, recording session, etc.

The reason I ask is that Adam is an act that I imagine will be much more about him and only him, the voice, etc. whereas Kris and Allison seem to lend themselves better to a band format. IDK, just some thoughts.

fanaround
October 23, 2009 at 10:35 am
Kris was interviewed on the beach in FL surrounded (uncomfortably?) by Dolphins Cheerleaders, wearing the awesome x shirt from rock week. Hope they have a few days off before their performance Sunday!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o88YdpaS9g4

You just have to laugh at how his arms are plastered to his sides. Makes you kinda wonder what happened before the camera started rolling that made him so self-conscious.

On the tweeting issue ‘“ Adam gave shout outs to Kris and Allison when their singles came out, expecting the same in return is not a crazy thought. Kris responds to almost every tweet from other idols, but he left Adam hanging, yeah we don’t know if he contacted him personally but if he’s contacting every one else via twitter, why not Adam.

No it’s not a big deal, but it’s an observation and it will have people wondering ‘ what’s up with that’.

Kris gave a shout out to TFM yesterday iirc.

Yes, well, it took Kris less than a day to respond to Alex’s tweet, while poor Adam is still waiting for an answer after three days:

How do you know that Kris didn’t send him a DM? It seems like Kris is more fond of those than carrying on public conversations with his friends. In fact, at one point he sent a lot more DMs to fans, instead of answering them in a way that everyone could see what he said. I think that Kris is someone who realizes that answering someone back in a way that everyone can see what he says, has more to do with entertaining the public, than actually interacting with his friend or a fan. The Alex tweets were more about making the people who follow them laugh, it was not a personal or private conversation between the two of them.

No it’s not a big deal, but it’s an observation and it will have people wondering ‘ what’s up with that’.

Maybe, it’s because he has a life, which consists of him trying to release his own album right now. And like I said, twitter isn’t personal. Kris or anyone else mentioning someone else’s single on twitter is more about appeasing the fans and self-promotion, and really, that’s not the most important thing right now.

yeah he DM one of his fans on twitter today. She tweted him about how much she likes his pre idol albumBNS and he thank her. She was so excited that she was telling everyone. I think that was very nice thing for him to do.

You just have to laugh at how his arms are plastered to his sides. Makes you kinda wonder what happened before the camera started rolling that made him so self-conscious.

LOL! The visual is funny, seeing Kris flanked by the cheerleaders like that! I think his hands are in his pockets, though, but that part is hidden, which makes it look more awkward than it really is.

The reason I ask is that Adam is an act that I imagine will be much more about him and only him, the voice, etc. whereas Kris and Allison seem to lend themselves better to a band format. IDK, just some thoughts.

Adam mentioned in some interview early during the tour that he wanted to build a band, and it wouldn’t be just about him fronting the band but the other band members will be visible front with him. I think building a band is still in his long term plan, but in short term he will be a solo artist.

Kris and Allison both have bands and already rehearsing with them. Adam is way behind.

1) we have no idea what Adam is doing or working on…I also think he is being marketed differently than Kris and Allison, and 2) is this a race?

that being said, yay for kris and allison….i like fibou more and more every time i hear it…brings me back to my teenage days

I don’t see the Red One collaboration with Adam’s album list posted above. He was the first one who recorded with him. Any updates?

LOL, 100 comments and MJ hasn’t even posted any headlines yet!

Public shaming and shunning via Twitter. Technology has evolved faster than we have, eh?

SMART celebrities use twitter as a great marketing tool. And if you are marketing your friends and it reflects nicely back on you…way to go and a nice in your face to the cynics out there.

And, I really think that other than a few over invested people most people don’t keep track of who twitters who or who answers who…and if they do keep score they lead a more boring life than I do at this moment.

Considering that several celebs have followers in the millions, Adam still has a way to go…but 200k is a nice core marketing group. And hopefully that 200k will network beyond just replying to him. Used wisely twitter is fantastic…its return use by defensive and entitled peeps, not so much.

Considering that several celebs have followers in the millions, Adam still has a way to go’ ¦but 200k is a nice core marketing group. And hopefully that 200k will network beyond just replying to him. Used wisely twitter is fantastic’ ¦its return use by defensive and entitled peeps, not so much.

For all it’s evils and lies, I think twitter is pretty amazing and useful, particularly, as you mention, when used as a marketing tool.

Getting things to trend, how successful AI fans have been at getting things to trend, for instance, is just amazingly simple FREE publicity. Everything is like a spider web out there – interconnected in interesting and unexpected ways. I may only have a dozen followers, but if I send a tweet to them, and some of them RT etc, suddenly that message spreads much further.

My 2 cents on the twitter issue is that Kris comminicates with Adam maybe through DM or phone calls. I’ve realised that since they finished with the tour, Kris is trying to break off from the Kradam thing and I think it’s smart since he had always been accused of feeding on Kradam for fans. Maybe he heard or read it from somewhere?

I just watched the video of Kris on ‘Fox and Friends’. That was so funny!! Kris look cute but kind of uncomfortable squeezed between the two cheerleaders!LOL

I wish him luck at the Dophin’s game gig.

Adam is way behind.

I seriously doubt Adam is way behind anything. None of us has a clue what’s going on behind the scenes.

Twitter is a public forum—people tweet so the public, in general, can read. There are probably all kinds of agendas/motives behind people’s tweets. I like to think that Adam and Kris are good enough friends that the majority of their conversations happen by phone or text or e-mail. Worrying about who is or isn’t twittering someone is so silly because we don’t know what other forms of communication they are using.

I don’t see the Red One collaboration with Adam’s album list posted above. He was the first one who recorded with him. Any updates?

Good question. I also thought about that when it didn’t come up during the Lyndsey review – though she had only heard a few of the songs.

“”seems like another slow day.”"

How cute and funny, just wait until the headlines are up, it just might be a busy day but lol – we dont need headlines to comment and carry on – some dont seem to realize there arent any yet MJ?

Clips of General Hospital Scenes using Adam’s Mad World:
Day 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFF0WRWQCkc&feature=player_embedded#

Day 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JF1K7SpTrE&feature=player_embedded

They are using a sizeable portion of the song for their big mystery storyline coming up that I believe introduces James Franco to the cast. NGL, when I heard James Franco was gonna be on GH, I was a little bit surprised.

Adam is way behind.

that’s something new…I only knew Adam likes the top.

I notice Adam’s other friends, like Alison Porter, responds very quickly.

Alison Porter only tweeted because crazy fans were tweeting her with things like this:

TeresaSluder: @ali22san Your silence about Adam’s TFM would make me think that you don’t like it. Do you not? His friends don’t say much either.

I assume she, like all of Adam’s other friends (including Kris) congratulated him in a way that is a lot more meaningful then twitter.

Ahh, a timely tweet from Matt to add flames to the fire j/k – he tweets about Jason’s vid, but sounds WAY more enthusiastic about it than when he tweeted about Adam’s vid – what’s up with that, man?

ImMattGiraud Hey everyone! Check out my friend Jason Castro’s new video if you haven’t already. Here’s the link to it! loves it! ha ha http://j.mp/3HjRP1

jericho
October 23, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Adam is way behind.

I seriously doubt Adam is way behind anything. None of us has a clue what’s going on behind the scenes.”

ITA! I ain’t gonna lie, I hope he’s busy picking his single to be released on Monday. That is my most fervent prayer.

Okay, Jim C, you’re on my good list again. I loved the Xmas stuff with Archie. Just adorable.

And interesting that 19M will NOT be managing Danny. His chances of appearing on S9 just took a 50% hit. It’s too early to call it but TFM may have peaked on iTunes (at least until the next promo burst.)

The whole twitter thing is stupid.

Adam is in US Weekly in two different areas:

Idol Halloween:
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8315/adamushalloween.jpg

I don’t know if other idols might be featured besides Adam and Carrie, I only found these scans. Not gonna lie, they both look adorable.

Details shoot:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9404/adamus.jpg

CindyM
October 23, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Clips of General Hospital Scenes using Adam’s Mad World:
Day 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFF0WRWQCkc&feature=player_embedded#

Day 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JF1K7SpTrE&feature=player_embedded

They are using a sizeable portion of the song for their big mystery storyline coming up that I believe introduces James Franco to the cast.”

Thanks for posting, Cindy! Just another step towards world domination….

I don’t see the Red One collaboration with Adam’s album list posted above. He was the first one who recorded with him. Any updates?

The collaboration is not listed because we don’t know the song title(s) yet.

Don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but “Kris Allen” is currently at number 69 on the Amazon bestsellers list.

Think we can expect any excited tweets from Kris on this? No? Okay then.

(Allison at #88)

The editor of AfterElton.com has an editorial regarding the Details pictures. Not gonna lie, he makes some interesting points.

http://www.afterelton.com/bgwe/10-23-09?page=0%2C0

There are some pictures of partially clothed athletes in the article, so if you are underage or offended, you’ve been warned.

Well, just to jump into the twiiter thing, here: hasn’t anyone ever responded to a tweet with a private tweet? Because I know I have. All this nitpicking over tweets is silly.

ETA: And I say this all the time but there isn’t anyone who has said more nice things about Adam Lambert than Kris Allen. In interview after interview, he has sung his praises. He said Adam deserved to be the American Idol as much as he did. I think he has been extremely nice and generous. Now some people are taking him to task over a tweet. Will it never end??

gabilan
“October 23, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but ‘Kris Allen’  is currently at number 69 on the Amazon bestsellers list. That poor boy really need to get some decent sleep and not few hours here and there.

Think we can expect any excited tweets from Kris on this? No? Okay then.

(Allison at #89)”

I doubt Kris has time to stalk any bestsellers lists and I sure hope he isn’t. I just hope he has time to catch some sleep whenever he can.

Considering that several celebs have followers in the millions, Adam still has a way to go’ ¦

Those celebs have been around for awhile with established careers. Adam’s career is just getting started with no single from his album, no promotion or gigs.

I like to think that Adam and Kris are good enough friends that the majority of their conversations happen by phone or text or e-mail.

It’s about business, support and promotion.

The editor of AfterElton.com has an editorial regarding the Details pictures. Not gonna lie, he makes some interesting points.

http://www.afterelton.com/bgwe/10-23-09?page=0%2C0

That was an interesting read – definitely agree with a lot of his points there. And as he says at the end: A change is gonna come…

BTW – funny to read their chart of how you can tell Adam’s gay in the details photo shoot:

http://www.afterelton.com/blog/stuntdouble/charting-adam-lambert

NGL, I think the point of the twittering/not twittering is that when Adam twittered that Kris’ single was out he gave free advertising to Kris by letting the 200,000+ who follow him know it was available. IMO, it would have been nice if Kris returned the favor in the same timely manner that Adam put out the word to his followers. Not a big deal, just would have been nice.

Given that there are no headlines yet, I figured this would be a great place for a completely random comment. I generally don’t listen to pop radio on my way to work, but NPR is in fall drive mode so I gave a local station a try. I couldn’t believe how much of Daughtry they play! For the past week I heard at least one Daughtry song each day (about an hour of listenting each day). Good for him. I hope Kris follows suit.

It’s too early to call it but TFM may have peaked on iTunes (at least until the next promo burst.)

ya, Adam is a complete failure. Can’t even sustain the top 10 in I tunes with a song that hasn’t had any promo except on-line stuff. I’m sure that half a million visits on MySpace carries a lot more weight than 10 million viewers of Glee on fox and top 10 top 40 billboard status by the other songs that beat out TfM.

And interesting that 19M will NOT be managing Danny. His chances of appearing on S9 just took a 50% hit.

I think he’ll make it on if the timing is right. Elliott’s been back twice, right? And Kimberly whatsherface from S2, Taylor Hicks, many other alum not with 19M, And they invited MJ, Carly, and Brooke back last year, albeit on the small stage. I think Jason was set to be on until they had to cancel.

It’s too early to call it but TFM may have peaked on iTunes (at least until the next promo burst.)

I’m sure LLWD hasn’t peaked yet.

Lyndsay interviewed Kris in Fuller’s office. Does it mean Fuller is managing Kris. That would be nice.

They might have him back. But they def favor the 19M signed ones over the unsigned. It’s just a fact of life.

LLWD is getting played on the radio. More airplay, the more sales (supposedly.) TFM isn’t getting played so until the trailer/movie promo, it’s not getting new ears.

tinafea
October 23, 2009 at 12:37 pm
“NGL, I think the point of the twittering/not twittering is that when Adam twittered that Kris’ single was out he gave free advertising to Kris by letting the 200,000+ who follow him know it was available. IMO, it would have been nice if Kris returned the favor in the same timely manner that Adam put out the word to his followers. Not a big deal, just would have been nice.”

tinafea, Kris twitted this yeaterday.
KrisAllen4Real
Hey guys go get time for miracles by @adamlambert because he sounds so good on it.
about 22 hours ago from Echofon

He not just mention the TFM, he is telling his followers to buy it. Since some people likes to read so much into all the tweets, let me be fare even though none of these bug me. When Adam tweeted about Kris’ single, I remembered Adam only telling his followers to go check out Kris single, never mention anything about buying. So should we read into that too? LOL

I think the “Obsession” track is wrong… wasn’t that a song given to the Rascal Flatts, with back vocals from Caillat?

FYI : Watch Adam Lambert walk the Red Carpet live at 3p pst/ 6p est November 22nd on ABC.com and Ustream.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IilK6Xs3dds&feature=player_embedded

He not just mention the TFM, he is telling his followers to buy it. Since some people likes to read so much into all the tweets, let me be fare even though none of these bug me. When Adam tweeted about Kris’ single, I remembered Adam only telling his followers to go check out Kris single, never mention anything about buying. So should we read into that too? LOL

Lol – yes, but how many exclamation points did each of them use to convey excitement? Hmmm? That’s all that really matters

I doubt Kris has time to stalk any bestsellers lists and I sure hope he isn’t. I just hope he has time to catch some sleep whenever he can.

It was only a joke regarding the #. I was picturing Kris tweeting something humorous. My humor runs toward the dry and inscrutable sometimes. I’m a very Kris-like Adam fan I guess.

Lyndsay interviewed Kris in Fuller’s office. Does it mean Fuller is managing Kris. That would be nice.

Others here have said Fuller is managing Kris. Wow! The big gun is managing Kris. They are giving him the royal treatment like the most successful idols.

I’m back. I’ll be putting up headlines shortly. Have to go through my mail and stuff first.

snlw, not to belabor the point but Adam tweeted the DAY LLYD came out. Maybe Kris didn’t realize TFM had been released for a few days. I know he is a busy guy. Since his parents tweeted Adam on release day, they probably had to let Kris know TFM was out.

When Adam tweeted about Kris’ single, I remembered Adam only telling his followers to go check out Kris single, never mention anything about buying. So should we read into that too? LOL

It’s so unfair for Kris!! Adam told his followers to call radio station and request Allison’s “Friday I’ll Be Over You”. Why not Kris??

Sorry gabilan, didn’t catch your humor but thanks for clarifying.

It’s too early to call it but TFM may have peaked on iTunes (at least until the next promo burst.)

I don’t think it’s too early to call it. It has peaked for this promo burst. If you look at the pop bars, it’s fallen off quite a bit.

And this is to be expected. It in no way means that Adam is a failure or doomed or anything. It’s just normal human behaviour. As I explained with Glee, each week the episode airs, it moves a lot of units. But that quickly fades around Saturday (it is thought that iTunes has a rolling window of about 2-3 days).

“Time for Miracles” had a big promo burst (and release) on Monday/Tuesday. People bought like fiends for a couple of days. But what is out there to make them buy today? Sure, laggards will keep buying it so it won’t fall off iTunes, but the main surge is over. For most songs on iTunes, there has to be something getting your song into the conciousness. There is nothing happening for this song right now. I mean, there are exceptions like Izzie K who always seems to be on the Amazon on iTunes charts and Josh Groban and Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin’”, but they are all exceptions and nobody truly understands why that keeps happening.

Next week, TfM will appear before the Michael Jackson movie and then in the closing credits for 2012. It may even get airplay (there has no push for radio play, so it’s not surprising it isn’t getting 2,000 spins a day).

Think about it. If you weren’t an on-line AI fan and you missed the promo at the beginning of the week, how would you even know that Adam has a song out there? If you don’t know, how can you buy it? That’s why normally airplay is important, but there are other forms of media like they have planned for TfM which will work as well.

MJ needs to steal the by-line from Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy and post it on the top of her blog:

DON’T PANIC

It was only a joke regarding the #. I was picturing Kris tweeting something humorous. My humor runs toward the dry and inscrutable sometimes. I’m a very Kris-like Adam fan I guess.

I thought the same thing about the number (dirty minds, tsk tsk). Perfect opportunity for a Kradam tweet, imo

It’s about business, support and promotion.

For who? I think Adam’s clearly had plenty of promotion. *shrugs*, and no I’m not complaining.

Apparently Kris is going to discuss both Adam and Allison music in his second part of the interview with LP if peeps really want to know what Kris has to say about Adam’s music.

Idk if TfM will be discussed though…

Mary102
“Lol ‘“ yes, but how many exclamation points did each of them use to convey excitement? Hmmm? That’s all that really matters ”

EXCELLENT point! lol

Lyndsay interviewed Kris in Fuller’s office. Does it mean Fuller is managing Kris. That would be nice.

No. Did you see how Kris was dressed and his bad hair? Clearly, the dude had just crawled through the heating vents and dropped into Fuller’s couch when Fuller went out to eat a few babies for lunch. Lyndsey just happened to be there, so she interviewed Kris.

It’s all about guerilla marketing and making things happen. Kris is willing to do what it takes to get a bit of attention.

Seriously? HDD vibe raters just mentioned that Stirling Whats-his-name (Daughtry’s day-to-day manager) is Kris’s day-to-day manager. Fuller is his boss. I believe that Fuller is technically the manager for all the 19M peeps, but he’s a little busy running American Idol, diticating to talk shows who to have on, bribing SNL and eating babies to have time to manage all the Idols day-to-day.

“MJ needs to steal the by-line from Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy and post it on the top of her blog:

DON’T PANIC”

NGL, ITA. RL calls…..

It’s too early to call it but TFM may have peaked on iTunes (at least until the next promo burst.)

DON’T PANIC

I don’t read that as someone being panic.

They might have him back. But they def favor the 19M signed ones over the unsigned. It’s just a fact of life.

It makes sense they’d do that, but to be fair they really promote many non 19M signed idols, as much as the signed ones. I can’t even remember any idol who is doing well (and some who are not even doing that well) who has not performed on the show. They all go back there, 19M and non 19M ones. I think the show itself has been really good for past contestants.
There will be a lot of idols going there next year (I expect Kris, Adam, Allison, Cook, Carrie, Archie, maybe Daughtry…), if they don’t invite Danny I’d say it’s more cause they don’t have room. But I think we’ll see him there next year.

It may even get airplay (there has no push for radio play, so it’s not surprising it isn’t getting 2,000 spins a day).

Just curious as to how this could start happening. I for one would obviously like to see it get airplay (duh) but vaguely understand that the “label” or what have you has to do some work on its part to get it played on air – as in giving concerts for stations, having the artist go around to give interviews, etc. And I’m guessing that’s not really being planned for TFM for a number of reasons (budgetary issues with the movie, not being a top priority as far as they’re concerned, etc.)

So, how would it conceivably make significant airplay otherwise? My only thought is if it starts selling really really well again next week after the TII premiere.

When Adam tweeted about Kris’ single, I remembered Adam only telling his followers to go check out Kris single, never mention anything about buying.

Kris only asked people to “get” it, not to “buy” it. So, is Kris promoting illegal downloading?
Couldn’t “check it out” be equivalent to “buy it”?

So should we read into that too? LOL

No!!!

BestAI
October 23, 2009 at 12:53 pm

Others here have said Fuller is managing Kris. Wow! The big gun is managing Kris. They are giving him the royal treatment like the most successful idols.

I don’t know if Fuller is managing Kris. This was posted in the Kris/Lindsey Parker thread and is from http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/vibe/vibe.cgi?rank5

Kris Allen
19/Jive/JLG

album: Kris Allen
track: Live Like We’re Dying

Season 8 Idol winner seeing huge love at Pop and Hot Adult: Z100, WPLJ, WTMX, WXXL, WPRO, KRBE, WWWQ, tons more. LP hitting 11/17. Marco Puig directed vid in post production. GMA 11/17, Regis & Kelly 11/18, taping Ellen 11/19, Conan to follow. Radio promo events all of December. Tons of press. Mgmt: Stirling McIlwaine/19 Ent.

I think when Fuller is managing, others have said his name is listed in an entry like this. NGL, it’s a bit confusing.

If Danny’s song does well, he’ll probably be back. But I think he’ll be at the bottom of the list after Adam, Kris, Carrie, Allison, Daughtry, maybe Cook, Pickler, Jordin. The list of signed Idols is getting kind of long.

I think following the Idols on twitter and making sure they get their props is the new Idol fan pastime. It may even surpass voting on meaningless Internet polls as a fun time waster.

Good piece of idol news here:
Ayla Brown will be joining David Foster for his Boston show,
David Foster & Friends!!!!
David sought out Ayla to appear as a special guest. What an amazing opportunity for Ayla, she is really getting recognized lately!
Great Line up including other former idol Ruben Studdard!

Philip Bailey (Earth, Wind and Fire) Peter Cetera, Charice, Michael Johns, Glen Frye, and more. Below is a synopsis of the show:

Foster will perform with some of his talented friends the hits that have paved the way for the many artists he has worked with over the years including Whitney Houston, Barbra Streisand, Josh Groban, Chris Botti, Celine Dion, Michael Buble, Andrea Bocelli, Chaka Khan, Madonna
Sunday Oct 25th 8 pm

Tickets

Are you guys up for a good laugh, David Cook just tweeted this:

@thedavidcook Ok, has to be done… #followfriday @shitmydadsays funniest thing i’ve seen in a long time, and that includes @montyanderson

So I went to @shitmydadsays on twitter. LMAO

Has anyone figured out how many Adam gains in a day? In an hour, give or take, Adam will have 214,000.

BestAI, it seems that Adam has been picking up about 500-600 followers a day this week. The pace definitely picked up when TfM was released.

Marco Puig directed vid in post production. GMA 11/17, Regis & Kelly 11/18, taping Ellen 11/19, Conan to follow. Radio promo events all of December. Tons of press.

Kris’ fans buckle your belt for the ride!!!

@shitmydadsays is the funniest person on Twitter!

Kris met and had dinner with Simon Fuller i London also….

And I say this all the time but there isn’t anyone who has said more nice things about Adam Lambert than Kris Allen. In interview after interview, he has sung his praises. He said Adam deserved to be the American Idol as much as he did. I think he has been extremely nice and generous. Now some people are taking him to task over a tweet. Will it never end??

So true. I mean, right after he won, he was saying on every talk show he went on how much he loved Adam, how talented he thought he was, how successful he thought he would be, and how he believed that Adam deserved to win as much as he did. Kris also beat back the Billy Bushes of the media when they would try to paint Adam as someone who “average Americans” might be uncomfortable with. And when the media seemed to almost be baiting him to say something about how Adam admitting he had a crush on Kris made him uncomfortable or was awkward, Kris just said it was flattering, and, heck, he had a crush back! Of all the tired old criticisms that get thrown Kris’s way, the implication that he has been anything but fully supportive of Adam is the most ludicrous.

Mary102:
I thought the same thing about the number (dirty minds, tsk tsk). Perfect opportunity for a Kradam tweet, imo

Oh absolutely a Kradam tweet would be in order, but I’m sure Kris doesn’t know about his position yet. Maybe someone could tweet him? j/k!!!

NGL, I think the point of the twittering/not twittering is that when Adam twittered that Kris’ single was out he gave free advertising to Kris by letting the 200,000+ who follow him know it was available. IMO, it would have been nice if Kris returned the favor in the same timely manner that Adam put out the word to his followers. Not a big deal, just would have been nice.

tinafea, for your info, Adam twitted that 2 days after Kris single was released. So long for the timely manner

From Laura Saltzman:

DishofSalt For my Adam Lambert fans… Be sure and check out @accesshollywood wknd show. Something you havent seen from our intv will air.
about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck

DishofSalt Here’s a hint to everyone asking… it involves Halloween. I believe it will be uploaded to accesshollywood.com saturday night if u miss
about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck

Just curious as to how this could start happening.

It normally starts with the label. They have to phone up their contacts at the radio station and try to convince them to play it (and it’s just not by doing radio concerts because there are far fewer slots for radio concerts than there are on any stations play list).

Sometimes, a song gets so much buzz elswhere that stations will start playing it anyway.

Seriously, I just don’t see why RCA would put any effort into getting this song airplay. Why would they? I know I’m an “utter cretin”, but I think I’m just being logical here. From all descriptions, TfM does not represent the sound on the album. Why waste time having Adam do phone interviews with all the radio stations and pull in favours for this song? Why not wait until the real single is released in a few weeks? The stations aren’t going to want to have the same dude on every two weeks. What more are they going to ask him they didn’t ask him two weeks earlier?

Sure, if TfM came out in between two album releases, promote it. But, it’s not. Concentrate on the real album and real single, I say. Let the trailers and movie move units for this song. Don’t muddy the water and confuse consumers.

IDK. That’s what I would do. But Clive hasn’t phoned me lately, so the label may think I’m a loon who doesn’t know what she is talking about.

Marco Puig directed vid in post production. GMA 11/17, Regis & Kelly 11/18, taping Ellen 11/19, Conan to follow. Radio promo events all of December. Tons of press.

Kris’ fans buckle your belt for the ride!!!

Random thought on this (and I have NO idea how it’s usually been done in the past), but does it kinda make more sense to do more of the big promo in the week or so BEFORE the album drops, rather than all of it after? Maybe it doesnt even matter, but it seems the standard practice is to have artists in general (not just AI contestants) appear on talk shows leading up to the album drop. But I’m not sure…

CindyM,

if Fuller was not managing Kris, I don’t think he would have had lunch with him in London and let Kris uses his office for an interview. It might be thin but it’s what comes to my mind at the moment

If Danny’s song does well, he’ll probably be back. But I think he’ll be at the bottom of the list after Adam, Kris, Carrie, Allison, Daughtry, maybe Cook, Pickler, Jordin. The list of signed Idols is getting kind of long.

Okay so Cook, Pickler, and Jordin singers who have been known to move product and sell singles and records, open for big acts like Britney and Taylor or headline a sold out tour are behind Adam, Kris, and Allison and maybe Danny who has not sold a thing will join Adam, Kris and Allison. I guess the labels will just kick them to the curb for the new Idols who have absolutely no track record.

Why not wait until the real single is released in a few weeks? The stations aren’t going to want to have the same dude on every two weeks. What more are they going to ask him they didn’t ask him two weeks earlier?

Yeah, and they can always bring up tfm when he promotes his own single. Just gives them more music to chat about.

From Laura Saltzman:

DishofSalt For my Adam Lambert fans’ ¦ Be sure and check out @accesshollywood wknd show. Something you havent seen from our intv will air.
about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck

DishofSalt Here’s a hint to everyone asking’ ¦ it involves Halloween. I believe it will be uploaded to accesshollywood.com saturday night if u miss
about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck

uh oh, we’ll see the glampire, I guess… that will be very funny!!

Sure, if TfM came out in between two album releases, promote it. But, it’s not. Concentrate on the real album and real single, I say. Let the trailers and movie move units for this song. Don’t muddy the water and confuse consumers.

Thanks, Kirsten - this explanation and game plan makes a lot of sense imo.

In fact, at one point he sent a lot more DMs to fans,

i’m not exactly a twitter expert but i think you can send a DM to someone only if you follow each other. so if i follow kris, and he is not following me (obviously not), he wouldn’t be able to send a DM to me.

on the other hand, switchfoot follow me and i can DM them anytime…

Everything I have ever read concerning 19 management…And I have really investigated it on the internet…Fuller has two clients he personally represents: The Beckhams. Now, I have read a few articles that say he represents Annie Lennox but things get a little hazy with her. As for the idols: Carrie, David C. Daughtry and now Kris his firm handles them but they have another “real” manager within the firm who handles their day to day stuff.

I have never found out who Adam’s management or management team is, definitively. Though many assume he is being managed by 19M…and I don’t know if that is so or if there has been any announcement of his day to day manager.

Kris only asked people to ‘get’  it, not to ‘buy’  it. So, is Kris promoting illegal downloading?
Couldn’t ‘check it out’  be equivalent to ‘buy it’ ?

maybe! and i remember jason mraz didnt mind his fans downloading illegally as well….

Marco Puig directed vid in post production. GMA 11/17, Regis & Kelly 11/18, taping Ellen 11/19, Conan to follow. Radio promo events all of December. Tons of press.

Kris’ fans buckle your belt for the ride!!!

Kris has been busy since the tour ended. Recording and promoting.

Is GMA the only morning show that promotes AI? Is Allison starting to promote her single/album? I haven’t seen any dates for her yet, and I thought Jive did a lot of early promotions.

Yeah, I agree that it doesn’t really make sense for RCA to spend their time pushing TfM to radio. It’s not the single from his album, it’s not representative of the album, so they would be spending a lot of time and money for something that doesn’t really pay off for selling the album, which is what they really want to do. If the movie hits big and the song gets in the zeitgeist from that, radio will play it anyway. If it doesn’t, oh well, Adam and his people can just say that the song was always about the movie and not his creative expression or his album anyway. BFD.

uh oh, we’ll see the glampire, I guess’ ¦ that will be very funny!!

I really hope we get Halloween pics of Adam as a glampire. Surely he’ll take advantage of the PR benefit of some glam vampire pics?!

awww jason replied to kris’s tweet about this video…

jasoncastro
@KrisAllen4Real thanks man! cant wait to see yours!

if Fuller was not managing Kris, I don’t think he would have had lunch with him in London and let Kris uses his office for an interview. It might be thin but it’s what comes to my mind at the moment

But I think the real explanation is much more in line with what others have suggested before – his day-to-day manager is that other guy (forget his name now), and that guy works under and reports to Fuller. Fuller probably doesn’t personally manage many of these guys – he’s just way too busy.

I thought TfM carried the Sony label. Am I missing something?

ETA: just checked and I am wrong…The label is Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc. So when this song shows up on Adam’s RCA label it will have a blurb that it is used with the “permission” of Columbia.

Yeah, I agree that it doesn’t really make sense for RCA to spend their time pushing TfM to radio.

I think Sony’s priority is the movie and not single sales.

i’m not exactly a twitter expert but i think you can send a DM to someone only if you follow each other. so if i follow kris, and he is not following me (obviously not), he wouldn’t be able to send a DM to me.

You can send a DM to anyone who is following you. That’s why most Kris fans can receive DMs from him, but can’t DM him back. I got a DM from Kris back during the tour, and I’ve gotten several from Jim Cantiello. Neither one of them is following me. I wish!

asifclueless
October 23, 2009 at 12:50 pm
FYI : Watch Adam Lambert walk the Red Carpet live at 3p pst/ 6p est November 22nd on ABC.com and Ustream.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IilK6Xs3dds&feature=player_embedded

LOL!!! Adam got his Youtube alert from the AMAs?! Now that’s COOL.

we may need to start a twitter thread soon….

exchange between jason and matt

ImMattGiraud
Hey everyone! Check out my friend Jason Castro’s new video if you haven’t already. Here’s the link to it! loves it! ha ha
about 1 hour ago from web

ImMattGiraud
Oh yeah and I was in the @jasoncastro vid too. I was in one of the cars.. Wait, I was under the water in the ocean. (wink) great tune btw!
about 1 hour ago from Echofon

jasoncastro
@ImMattGiraud hahaha sooo thats why you had the scuba tank! whaaa? lol thanks for the shout out! hope to see ya soon!

I though TfM carried the Sony label. Am I missing something?

I think it’s some sort of collaboration. RCA is part of the Sony Music Group, just like Jive is.

I think Sony’s priority is the movie and not single sales.

Oh, absolutely. They will use the song to promote the movie, not the other way around. Obviously, their priority is to market the movie. My point was just that it makes sense why Adam’s label and management is not going to be expending their time, money, energy, and pull with radio on pushing TfM to get airplay. Their efforts are going to be directed towards doing what they can to promote his album, and pushing TfM to radio, IMO, probably isn’t part of that strategy.

thanks washpd! guess i need to tweet kris more often now to get a DM from him….

or maybe i should go get a life

@shitmydadsays is the funniest person on Twitter!

@capricecrane is pretty funny too

Tess
October 23, 2009 at 1:30 pm
I though TfM carried the Sony label. Am I missing something?

It does. As far as I know, TFM has nothing to do with RCA. And being pushed to radio or not comes under the domain of Sony, not RCA. Just 2 days ago Sony served a violation of copy right to RCA’s AdamOfficial site for showing the TFM vid. IT was posted yesterday on Youtube, after negotiations of use, I suspect, were completed.

So ya. Unless I’m terribly wrong, RCA has nothing to do with TFM or it’s marketing beyond the loan of an artist.

I hate to tell you guys, but the days of Kradam and Kradison is over. All three of them, have better things to do, than tweet one another. They are either putting finishing touches on their album or doing media promos. I am sure all of them have the other’s cell phone number, so if they want to talk they can call.

I wouldn’t assume that because kris was interviewed in fuller’s office that means he is being managed by fuller (maybe he is, maybe he isn’t — who knows)…they probably needed a quiet place in the 19 offices to do the interview and fuller’s office was empty and available….

How cute and funny, just wait until the headlines are up, it just might be a busy day but lol ‘“ we dont need headlines to comment and carry on ‘“ some dont seem to realize there arent any yet MJ?

i noticed before that there aren’t any headlines. but c’mon, we need to be honest. how many of us actually read the headlines? i jump straight into the comments..and i think MJ knows how we work around here by now…hehe

October 23, 2009 at 12:50 pm
FYI : Watch Adam Lambert walk the Red Carpet live at 3p pst/ 6p est November 22nd on ABC.com and Ustream.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IilK6Xs3dds&feature=player_embedded

LOL!!! Adam got his Youtube alert from the AMAs?! Now that’s COOL.

AWESOME!

I feel bad that my little twitter rant opened up the can of worms. I guess my point was, if anybody is going to be mad at Idol X for not tweeting compliments about Idol Y’s work, it should be Idol Y… and somehow, I doubt that’s happening.

they probably needed a quiet place in the 19 offices to do the interview and fuller’s office was empty and available’ ¦.

lol but that’s what conference rooms are for. or the hallway like EW does. or a bench outside. not the boss’s office.

I think it’s simple and just how Kirsten and others have described. Stirling McIlwaine is Kris’ manager and Simon Fuller is Stirling’s boss. So the relationship is there, it’s just one removed.

squirrely- shitmydadsays really IS the funniest person on twitter! I found out about that guy about a month ago and it just makes me LMAO! Ten bucks says that guy is Italian! I have so many relatives like that.

“”Your brother brought his baby over this morning. He told me it could stand. It couldn’t stand for shit. Just sat there. Big let down.”
9:35 AM Aug 20th from web ”

And WOW on the AMA youtube!!!!!!!!

This video of Q&A with Kris at the Seton school is funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-T7eyalJS4

squirrely- shitmydadsays really IS the funniest person on twitter! I found out about that guy about a month ago and it just makes me LMAO! Ten bucks says that guy is Italian! I have so many relatives like that.

I’ll check him out when I get home.

Tess: I though TfM carried the Sony label. Am I missing something?

TfM doesn’t involve 19 but it is RCA.

TfM is RCA Records Label, so is the 2012 Soundtrack and Adam’s Album. RCA Records Label is part of the RCA Records Group. It is one of the Flagship labels in the Sony Music Entertainment.

The initial marketing of TfM is being done by Columbia Pictures which is part of Columbia TriStar Motion Picture Group and is the division of Sony that produced “2012″ and is distributing and marketing TII. Columbia Tristar is part of Sony Pictures Entertainment, Inc.

In my past dealings with Sony, I have found it to be a very big, decentralized mutlinational and communications/coordination between division isn’t usually great.

Right now, TfM is only being pushed with online viral marketing and some traditional PR. The big push for TfM kicks off next week with the 10/27/09 LA Premier. Whether there will be a release for radio airplay, a shorter radio edit, or any effort to promote TfM on FM Radio are still open questions.

Strategically, I think it makes sense that 19R/RCA would focus radio promo on the new album single, “TBD”.

I think the big clue will be when Adam hits the Vibe Raters list and if Simon F’s name is listed. I’m sure everyone that is signed to 19 has some involvement with Simon, but as its been described in the past, he has “pet projects” and usually he pushes for more high profile stuff. I Googled Jordin and Blake to see if I could find old Vibe Raters listings for their first year out, sure enough each of them had only had one manger listed (Iain Pirie/19 Mgmt for Blake and Stirling McIlwaine/19Mgmt for Jordin). But DC had Iain and Simon Fuller listed.

To get Simon Fuller as your own personal manager, you have to be a superstar and not one of the idols fall into that category.

Looks like Daughtry’s having trouble filling arenas:

Daughtry
Hilton Coliseum, Ames, IA
Thu, Oct 22, 2009 07:30 PM

PROMOTIONS & SPECIAL OFFERS – $13.99
(Regular prices: $39.50 & $29.50)

———————————

Promoter discounts Daughtry tickets: The Civic Center has announced a special offer on tickets for the Daughtry concert on Sunday.

The show, which also features Theory of a Deadman and Cavo, starts at 7:30 p.m. Sunday in Carver Arena, and tickets are on sale for $19.99 until 10 p.m. Friday. Tickets are available at the Civic Center Box Office, through Ticketmaster.com, or by phone at (800) 745 -3000.

Tickets for the show are regularly priced at $31.50 and $41.50.

http://www.pjstar.com/entertainment/x82602…aughtry-tickets

I hate to tell you guys, but the days of Kradam and Kradison is over. All three of them, have better things to do, than tweet one another.

While this might be true, I think their paths will remain tied until their first albums come out. It would be really smart of them to increase their cross-talk leading up to their albums’ releases (mid November). It would be nearly-free promotion targeted to a very interested group.

Daughtry
Hilton Coliseum, Ames, IA
Thu, Oct 22, 2009 07:30 PM

PROMOTIONS & SPECIAL OFFERS ‘“ $13.99
(Regular prices: $39.50 & $29.50)

That sucks – not a fan but that still sucks. Maybe he needs a more well known opening act. I never heard of these people

which also features Theory of a Deadman and Cavo

If Danny’s song does well, he’ll probably be back. But I think he’ll be at the bottom of the list after Adam, Kris, Carrie, Allison, Daughtry, maybe Cook, Pickler, Jordin. The list of signed Idols is getting kind of long.

Danny is lower on the list than that.

if Fuller was not managing Kris, I don’t think he would have had lunch with him in London

Fuller was in London with time to spare. Why not squeeze a business meeting w/Kris while they both were there? Bet Fuller took 50 phone calls during that lunch.

And this is to be expected. It in no way means that Adam is a failure or doomed or anything. It’s just normal human behaviour. As I explained with Glee, each week the episode airs, it moves a lot of units. But that quickly fades around Saturday (it is thought that iTunes has a rolling window of about 2-3 days).
DON’T PANIC

Where is the panic? Am I missing it? Hurry, someone panic, so we can talk you off the ledge. NGL, that can be entertaining sometimes.

Kristen, thanks for the information on iTunes and the rolling window. It gives a hint at how well TFM is doing/has done. LLYD peaked at #27 and started it’s downward descent one hour later. I wonder what that means, numbers wise, for TFM to peak at #9 and still be hovering in the top 15! Exciting, isn’t it?

If Danny’s song does well, he’ll probably be back. But I think he’ll be at the bottom of the list after Adam, Kris, Carrie, Allison, Daughtry, maybe Cook, Pickler, Jordin. The list of signed Idols is getting kind of long.

Danny is lower on the list than that.

Lower than Diana Degarmo or Justin Guarini?

I am sure all of them have the other’s cell phone number, so if they want to talk they can call.

And I expect this is what they do. Talking to your friend who is having very similar, new, and stressful/exciting experiences is probably a lot more what you want at the end of a long day than just tweeting them in a format that will be read by thousands of people and start some big drama somewhere out on the Internet beyond your reach. … Twitter has given us all the idea that we are privy to the entire relationship lives of the people on it — and I sure hope that we are not!

Lower than Diana Degarmo or Justin Guarini?

Is that possible? I would like to put him there but I guess I’ll have to be a little sensible.

Kristen, thanks for the information on iTunes and the rolling window. It gives a hint at how well TFM is doing/has done. LLYD peaked at #27 and started it’s downward descent one hour later. I wonder what that means, numbers wise, for TFM to peak at #9 and still be hovering in the top 15! Exciting, isn’t it?

Want and NOBO fell HARD – they are back in the 500s.

lindsey’s kris interview part 2 is up

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/279910/kris-allen-the-album-preview-interview-pt-2/

off to watch now….super excited

Others here have said Fuller is managing Kris. Wow! The big gun is managing Kris. They are giving him the royal treatment like the most successful idols.

I’ve yet to figure out what the big significance is about Simon Fuller and whether he’s the day to day manager. Clay and Kelly both left his company because he wasn’t a good manager (too busy). Most of the idols are managed on a day to day basis by underlings. Besides, the record company and the pr firm are more instrumental, day to day, than a manager. I just don’t see the big deal either way.

The uproar over people like Kris not tweeting enthusiatically enough about Adam (and vice versa, and those that involve Allison in the stupidity) is proof that people have lost their fucking minds over the whole stupid Kradam thing and need to go find a real life and friends of their own to obsess over. Good lord, the indignant tweets are insane.

And then with the TfM uproar and worry. The song has done as well as it should have been expected to do. All the publicity in the world can’t make people buy a song. If his actual single and album don’t do better THEN the “Adam Storm” was for naught (and believe me, RCA isn’t pushing him like crazy and giving him creative control in exchange for moving 150,000 units. They want BIG numbers).

I am sure all of them have the other’s cell phone number, so if they want to talk they can call.

I would expect that they are all big on texting. In many candid video clips of the idols, there is always one or another scrolling their phone.

Adam’s Faves: No. 5 from Details: fav Energy drink

http://www.details.com/blogs/daily-details/2009/10/adam-lamberts-faves-no-5.html

Are you guys up for a good laugh, David Cook just tweeted this:

@thedavidcook Ok, has to be done’ ¦ #followfriday @shitmydadsays funniest thing i’ve seen in a long time, and that includes @montyanderson

So I went to @shitmydadsays on twitter. LMAO

“Dad” certainly has a fondness for a certain word.

For those who have the Details magazine, check out page 104. Now that’s creativity with rotten fruit.

The whole twitter argument is stilly. Adam didn’t tweet about LLWD until two days after it was released. That’s the same amount of time it took Kris to tweet about TFM.

These people are crazy busy trying to finish up their albums, do interviews and other promotions. The last thing they need to worry about is tweeting about one of the other Idols’ singles/albums the very second it is released. For the most part, Adam and Kris have been very good about not only supporting each other, but also giving the other Idols’ projects shout outs. It would be nice if the fans would give them a break already, instead of bitching about whether they are tweeting quickly enough.

Also, about TFM, I think #9 on the iTunes chart is pretty damn good. It’s a freaking movie soundtrack song — not exactly the type of thing that often shoots up to #1 on the charts (there have been exceptions, of course, but in general, no)

Part 2 of Lyndsey Parker’s interview with Kris is up! This (supposedly – haven’t listened to it yet) is where he talks about the 4 songs she hasn’t heard — AND about Adam’s and Allison’s stuff

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/279910/kris-allen-the-album-preview-interview-pt-2/

http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/10/23/kris-allen-track-listing-debut-c/

Slezak

Kelly, Carrie and Daughtry added to AMA Performers list:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20315058,00.html

More American Idol Stars Set to Perform at AMAs

The American Music Awards are as smitten with American Idol as everyone else.

Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood and Daughtry have been added to the schedule of performers for the 37th annual awards, airing live Nov. 22 on ABC. They join fellow Idol alum Adam Lambert, who was announced earlier as a performer.

“American Idol continually produces great talent, and we are looking forward to hosting Kelly, Carrie, Daughtry and Adam. It’s a great fit for the AMAs,” said producer Larry Klein.

Other performers on the show, to be held at the Nokia Theatre in Los Angeles, will include Jay-Z, Alicia Keys, Jennifer Lopez and the Black Eyed Peas.

The AMA nominees were announced last week. Taylor Swift and Michael Jackson each received five nominations, followed by rapper Eminem, who earned four. Beyonc, the Black Eyed Peas, Lady Gaga, Kings of Leon and T.I. each received three.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20315058,00.html

I agree that it is doubtful that there will be any radio promotion for TfM (altho I think that Tfm could be a pop or ac hit if they were to push it)…if there is, it won’t be until after TII begins and will be in the week or two prior to the opening of the movie…I wonder if it was even planned to release the song to itunes and the video to myspace prior to the TII premiere but that they rushed it out because people were already downloading the song illegally after it was released/leaked/mistakenly released (who the h-ll knows) in europe…

Slezak tweets:

Whoa! I scored the final track listing for @KrisAllen4Real’s self-titled debut:http://bit.ly/12lihx

http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/10/23/kris-allen-track-listing-debut-c/

edit: haha, don’t know why I’m posting about Kris. Love him, but like a side dish.

I’m excited about Kelly, Carrie, Daughtry, and Adam performing at the AMAs! Woohoo and go show em how it’s done, all of you!!

Now off to watch Part II of Lyndsey’s Kris interview. Good times!

Edit: I Need To Know makes Kris’s album!! Heartless as bonus cut is a great idea! No NB – praise be!!!

01 ‘Live Like We’re Dying’ 
02 ‘Before We Come Undone’ 
03 ‘Can’t Stay Away’ 
04 ‘The Truth’ 
05 ‘Written All Over My Face’ 
06 ‘Bring It Back’ 
07 ‘Red Guitar’ 
08 ‘Is It Over’ 
09 ‘Let It Rain’ 
10 ‘Alright With Me’ 
11 ‘Lifetime’ 
12 ‘I Need To Know’ 

BONUS TRACK
13 ‘Heartless’ 

i noticed before that there aren’t any headlines. but c’mon, we need to be honest. how many of us actually read the headlines?

I do!! I read all the headlines first thing when I come here. Don’t always read the articles, but I read the headlines!

http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/10/23/kris-allen-track-listing-debut-c/

Ha-ha! I didn’t jinx it. No NoBo.

Idol is taking over the music world one season at a a time. They should have someone representing from each season – to bad Kelly and Chris were from the same season.

Regarding the list of songs recorded by Adam, I do not believe that “Obsession” is a confirmed. There was a tweet about the song “Obession” and Ryan Tedder around the time Adam was in the recording studio with Ryan, but nothing else. Think it should be classified as a maybe.

Note: I could have missed something.

Plus, since Mirah just released “Obsessed”, seems doubtful they would use this title.

So Kris wrote and recorded I Need to Know lying on his back in a recording studio at like 2 in the morning?

Kelly and Chris were from the same season.

Kellie and Chris are from the same season (5). Kelly is from Season 1.

So, Season 1, 4, 5 and 8 will be there performing.

Kelly, Carrie and Daughtry added to AMA Performers list:

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20315058,00.html

OMG! I think I just died and went to Idol heaven!!!

Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood and Daughtry have been added to the schedule of performers for the 37th annual awards, airing live Nov. 22 on ABC.

I’m glad Kris is not on that list. I am tired of people trying to join Kris and Adam at the hip. Let Kradam exist as a wonderful friendship, nothing else.

Nice to see that NoBo isn’t on Kris’ album. Is this the first time that a coronation song didn’t make the winner’s debut album?

If so, it is justice for the song!

What did kris say about adam and allison? I tried to listen but couldnt finish… I got he liked Allison’s, but didnt understand what he said about adam. Only that he sounded good?

Idol is taking over the music world one season at a a time. They should have someone representing from each season ‘“ to bad Kelly and Chris were from the same season.

Kelly Clarkson S1 >>>>>>>>>> Kellie Picker S5

Nice to see that NoBo isn’t on Kris’ album. Is this the first time that a coronation song didn’t make the winner’s debut album?

Taylor’s kind of didn’t. You got a gift card for a free iTunes download of the song.

So, the songs not previously released or reviewed by Lindsey are:

08 ‘Is It Over’ 
10 ‘Alright With Me’ 
11 ‘Lifetime’ 
12 ‘I Need To Know’ 

We know a bit about “I Need to Know”. Anything about the other three?

Hola! Am pretty much off-line till Sunday–niece ‘s Bat Mitsvah–but wanted to say that my sister heard LLWD somewhere in the Springfield, MA area radio station, The Zodiac Show tweeted that they got 1500 hits for their doc clip yesterday–maybe someone already posted this, sorry if so–, I would love to hear TfM on the radio (maybe after MJ’s doc opens?), and Adam looks hot in both Details AND InStyle Magazines. Wanna hear Lyndsay’s interview w/ Kris part 2, but can’t on my IPhone. Oh, and I have a cold. Will check in again later.:)

Kelly and Chris were from the same season.

Kellie and Chris are from the same season (5). Kelly is from Season 1.

So, Season 1, 4, 5 and 8 will be there performing.

Duh, I was thinking Kellie P for some reason. EVEN BETTER! This is going to be a good show.

Odd thought ‘“ Can you imagine David A and Allison dating’ ¦

No….I love them both but David A is 18 going on 13 and Allison is 18 going on 40

“Idol is taking over the music world one season at a a time. They should have someone representing from each season ‘“ to bad Kelly and Chris were from the same season.”

I have to disagree on that one, some seasons really don’t need to be represented. I think they picked the big four, Daughtry, Carrie, Kelly, and Adam. Each one of these were the best performers of their season, but I wish they had included David Cook.

I’m glad Kris is not on that list. I am tired of people trying to join Kris and Adam at the hip. Let Kradam exist as a wonderful friendship, nothing else.

Yeah, it’s not surprising that those 3 have been added, as I believe they’ve all been nominated, haven’t they (too lazy to go look)? As for Adam being the only one who’s not only not nominated, but has no original music yet…. well, that’s popular demand for ya. With all the promos the AMAs have given his performance so far, they know who the big draw’s gonna be! It’s all about the ratings!!

The Daughtry song didnt the album! And neuther the Mat Kearney one! Didnt expet that…

Hola! Am pretty much off-line till Sunday’“niece ‘s Bat Mitsvah’“

Has this been tweeted as many times as it’s been posted here?

I’m surprised the Mat Kearney song didn’t make the album, because Kris had really been talking his collaboration with him up

Has this been tweeted as many times as it’s been posted here?

haha! That’s hilarious!

Oh, and we finally learn the back story of “Red Guitar” — Kris bought Katy a red guitar (which she never plays) about 1 1/2 years ago.

And his friend Cale is one of the co writers for Is It Over

With all the promos the AMAs have given his performance so far, they know who the big draw’s gonna be! It’s all about the ratings!!

So will Adam get the pimp spot?

My tweeter feed is full of angst because of adam’s tracklist:

ali22san I can’t breathe. Just tell me, yay or nay.1 minute ago from UberTwitter

AimeeMayo I heard they are choosing the track list today- I need every prayer and positive thought I can get. Pleeeeeeeeeeease…. “Sleep Walker”8 minutes ago from web

I have to disagree on that one, some seasons really don’t need to be represented. I think they picked the big four, Daughtry, Carrie, Kelly, and Adam. Each one of these were the best performers of their season, but I wish they had included David Cook.

Since they, apparently, won’t let him release another single from his album, he has nothing new to promote right now.

which song is about his compromise and frustration about dealing with the label?

Also, for those flailing about Kris’ reaction to TFM, he says in the Lyndsey Parker interview that Adam let him listen to the song really early on — so Kris likely gave his reaction to Adam then…

We don’t know the writing credits for Send Me All Your Angels – could be Mat Kearney, Daughtry, Alex Band, Dan Wilson, or someone we haven’t heard about. Not Too Late To Run w/David Hodges didn’t make the cut.

Tess:

Everything I have ever read concerning 19 management’ ¦And I have really investigated it on the internet’ ¦Fuller has two clients he personally represents: The Beckhams. Now, I have read a few articles that say he represents Annie Lennox but things get a little hazy with her. As for the idols: Carrie, David C. Daughtry and now Kris his firm handles them but they have another ‘real’  manager within the firm who handles their day to day stuff.

I think that you are correct in your analysis, but I do think that Fuller is pretty hands on, nevertheless. I know that he personally attended at least two of Cook’s concerts on this tour – maybe three. I’m sure he did the same with carrie and Daughtry.

but I wish they had included David Cook.

I thought David got to do something last year for the pre-show.

Jim’s favorite didn’t make the track unless it was renamed.

Daughtry
Hilton Coliseum, Ames, IA
Thu, Oct 22, 2009 07:30 PM

PROMOTIONS & SPECIAL OFFERS ‘“ $13.99
(Regular prices: $39.50 & $29.50)

That sucks ‘“ not a fan but that still sucks. Maybe he needs a more well known opening act. I never heard of these people

Actually, I go to a lot of concerts and am on a lot of mailing lists… and it seems that is happening A LOT with arena tours lately, where the cheapest tickets get prices slashed. They’re often decent acts, and the good/expensive seats sell out, but I guess with the economy, the casual fans won’t go for the rafter tickets unless it’s cheap. Makes sense to fill it out and I’m thinking they still recoup costs when they do that.

I Googled Jordin and Blake to see if I could find old Vibe Raters listings for their first year out, sure enough each of them had only had one manger listed (Iain Pirie/19 Mgmt for Blake and Stirling McIlwaine/19Mgmt for Jordin). But DC had Iain and Simon Fuller listed.

Anyone seen a Vibe Rater listing for Carrie lately? I’d be interested in what hers says…

Also, for those flailing about Kris’ reaction to TFM, he says in the Lyndsey Parker interview that Adam let him listen to the song really early on ‘” so Kris likely gave his reaction to Adam then’ ¦

Good to know he likes at least one song of Adam’s.

Wow, lots of Idols at the AMA this year. You’d almost think that 19 and the AMA had a special relationship going on. It’s probably just a huge coincidence though.

Kirsten, how does one track CCR adds and spins? Someone on ONTD_AI told me this morning LLWD just recently went for adds on Contemporary Christian format.

Q3
October 23, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Tess: I though TfM carried the Sony label. Am I missing something?

TfM doesn’t involve 19 but it is RCA.

I stand corrected. I bow at the alter of Q3′s media knowledge. What would we ever do without girl???!!!

Now Q3, what can you tell me about rehearsal and concept schedules for Adam’s AMA performance. It seems like an awfully short time to me, with less than a month and the single not even chosen yet. Plus what ever promotion Adam still has on his schedule.

How long do these things usually take? Setting up a Choreographer, a routine, costumes, musical arrangements, set design and so on?

So will Adam get the pimp spot?

Probably!! If they want peeps to stay tuned thru the whole show, they’ll save him for the latter half and pimp him as often as possible. Besides, he’s going to be rocking the red carpet, so he’ll need some quailty girl-time during the show to change, redo his make-up, and light the Flaming Headdress.

I think they picked the big four, Daughtry, Carrie, Kelly, and Adam. Each one of these were the best performers of their season, but I wish they had included David Cook.

Since they, apparently, won’t let him release another single from his album, he has nothing new to promote right now.

Exactly. Carrie and Adam have new albums to promote, and Kelly’s latest single is still going strong. DC has nothing to promote (because the idiots at RCA refuse to release a DC-written single… sad face).

Wow, lots of Idols at the AMA this year. You’d almost think that 19 and the AMA had a special relationship going on. It’s probably just a huge coincidence though.

Haha… noooo, special relationship? Next thing I know, you’re gonna tell me that Idol producer pimp their favorites on the show!

ETA: yeahyeahsure, I didn’t know those were for new artists only! Yeah, if anyone remembers that far back what Carrie’s said back then, I’d be interested.

Anyone seen a Vibe Rater listing for Carrie lately? I’d be interested in what hers says’ ¦

I think the Vibe Rater is only for new acts breaking out so Carrie won’t be on that list. Unless you mean when her first album was about to come out?

Wow, lots of Idols at the AMA this year. You’d almost think that 19 and the AMA had a special relationship going on. It’s probably just a huge coincidence though.

There’s also a bridge in Brooklyn up for sale! Ha!

Anthrogeek

The AMAs have a lineup full of established music stars and superstars performing. The show is NOT produced by anyone connected with 19 or Idol. So I would be stunned if Adam got the pimp spot — those go to superstars — not to guys who are just starting out in the business, no matter how much publicity they’ve received. It’s highly unusual that Adam was invited to perform at all without having an album or a single out.

I’m starting to think Adam will do TFM on the AMAs. It will be a good promotion for the movie. They’re waiting kind of long for his first “real” single to make much noise on the radio.

Here is the Add board for LLWD. It lists the stations that have added the song.

You can check the FutureReleases on AllAccess for future Add dates. I think you need to sign up for a free account, though. AllAccess also has a CAC chart.

girlygirl: It’s highly unusual that Adam was invited to perform at all without having an album or a single out.

Precisely why he’s probably got the pimp spot!

jpfan
October 23, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Wow, lots of Idols at the AMA this year. You’d almost think that 19 and the AMA had a special relationship going on. It’s probably just a huge coincidence though.

Is Kelly still with 19? I thought she left them.

And if a special relationship really does exist, I wonder why they didn’t pick Cook, Kris and Danny to appear? I mean it would make sense to promote the new guys that need it, not the group that sold over 12 million albums between them.

Hmm, puzzling.

If so, it is justice for the song!

Q3: LOL and ITA, although I kinda like the studio version by Adam.

They usually pimp the ones with albums coming out or out already.
Cook and Danny have nothing that current to promote. Plus Cook got his AMA promo last year. I think the tie in with 2012 makes it likely Adam is doing TFM and not his ‘new’  single.

The AMAs have a lineup full of established music stars and superstars performing. The show is NOT produced by anyone connected with 19 or Idol.

I am with Girlygirl in this one. But even if 19 had an influence in that decision, the fact that Adam was included among the greatest idols (in terms of success), even before his career actually begins, is already great news.

I think the tie in with 2012 makes it likely Adam is doing TFM and not his ‘new’  single

Adam said himself that he was going to sing the single that was yet to be chosen, and not TFM. Nothing changed and I dont see any reason to doubt him, of all the people. Besides, his tracks are being chosen today so there will be a single next week/early november.

Wow, lots of Idols at the AMA this year. You’d almost think that 19 and the AMA had a special relationship going on. It’s probably just a huge coincidence though.

At this point they are recording artist and that’s the reason they are on an awards show were they are nominated for an award. Adam is the only exception, he’s hot sh*t right now and they would be foolish not to capitalize on the ratings he may bring.

I think the tie in with 2012 makes it likely Adam is doing TFM and not his ‘new’  single.

You make a good point. I hope not. But you make a good point.

Not that it really matters, I guess. His stage presence and voice will impress people no matter what he sings, I’m sure.

Two new concerts were added to David Cook’s Declaration tour.

@FoolsApril64
NEW! DAVID COOK TOUR DATES! 12/30 & 12/31 (Wed & Thu) Pechanga Resort & Casino (Temecula, CA) http://bit.ly/pYECR @thedavidcook

His tour keeps chugging along! (For those not informed he started his tour Feb. 13 and now has bookings all the way to the end of December.)

I’m starting to think Adam will do TFM on the AMAs. It will be a good promotion for the movie. They’re waiting kind of long for his first ‘real’  single to make much noise on the radio.

There is not a chance in hell that he is singing TfM on the AMAs (altho i love TfM and would love to hear him sing it live.) They can be doing all sorts of prep work for the AMAs without knowing which dancey/electro song will be the first single…they can hire dancers, costumers and choreographer..they can start discussing and mapping out concepts…it sounds like the track list and first single are being picked today, which is about a month prior to the performance — plenty of time to put together a big awards show performance…i would expect the new single to drop a week or two prior to Nov. 22

Odd thought ‘“ Can you imagine David A and Allison dating’ ¦

No’ ¦.I love them both but David A is 18 going on 13 and Allison is 18
going on 40.

David wouldn ‘t survive thirty minutes with Allison. Her colorful language would send him running out the door pretty quickly.

Thanks, Kirsten – I do have an AllAccess account, obviously did not investigate deeply enough. I’m not seeing a spin category on the spin chart from Mediabase, but maybe I’m being an idiot there, too?

I’m starting to think Adam will do TFM on the AMAs. It will be a good promotion for the movie. They’re waiting kind of long for his first ‘real’  single to make much noise on the radio.

I sincerely doubt he’s performing tfm at the AMAs. I imagine that Adam and his team are furiously working on the release of the single AND his performance at the AMAs. I’m sure now, behind the scenes, they’re looking at each song, comparing it to tfm and other singles that are out now, deciding which song will give the most “bang for the buck” so to speak as an AMA performance, etc. My prediction (which is worth close to nothing) is the single will leak this weekend and will be released Monday or Tuesday next week.

Danny has signed with RLM/Mission Managment. They are going to be working with 19/RCA. They also manage country artists Darryl Worley and country duo Caitlin and Will.

http://www.musicrow.com/2009/10/mission-management-gets-gokey/

This just confirmed my thought, when I noticed that only 19/RCA Nashville that annnouncing Danny’s press release instead of Simon Fuller. Danny’s signed by 19/RCA Nashville (the label co.) for recording his CD, but he’s not managed by 19Management (Simon Fuller management company).

It looks like I’m not the only one excited about The Adam-Justin Hawkins collaboration:

Daily Metal
American Idol winner Adam Lambert may not be metal, but he is a cherubic little glam rock angel with an insane vocal range. Plus, he’s got rave reviews from Slash and Brian May, so bitch please, I am not the only one who is a certified Glambert asshole. Anyway, his album debuted in November and the hype around it is already pretty intense. But- no one really knows what to expect. Will he stick with his rock roots or go the American Idol-pop-music way?
Well, you can exhale! (I know every metal head is dying with anticipation). Three songs from his album have been released to some media outlets and the reviews are good. Here is the kicker- JUSTIN HAWKINS FROM THE DARKNESS /HOT LEG wrote and plays guitar on one of the tracks- “Music Again”. I am so fucking excited for this that I could crap my pants. The second this shit is leaked I am breaking the law and posting it here for you all to enjoy

http://nonemoreblakk.blogspot.com/2009/10/daily-metal_23.html

Who’d have ever thunk it?! Adam appealing to Metal fans. That’s just too cool.

jpfan

01 pm I’m starting to think Adam will do TFM on the AMAs. It will be a good promotion for the movie. They’re waiting kind of long for his first ‘real’  single to make much noise on the radio.

Yeah sure, TfM performed with backup dancers, wild costuming, and flaming headdress. Yep, he sure is going to perform TfM at the AMAs.

Is Kelly still with 19? I thought she left them.

No, she left 19 for the Firm back in ’05, which she left after the My December debacle. She’s currently with Starstruck Entertainment (Narvel Blackstock, Reba’s husband’s company). They are based out of Nashville.

I’m not seeing a spin category on the spin chart from Mediabase, but maybe I’m being an idiot there, too?

The new format of the AllAccess site kind of hides it. When you pick the station type, you have to pick Christian stations (instead of Published or whatever it says. When it’s set to “Published” you can’t see “Christian AC” in the format drop-down list). Then, you can see the chart.

Or you can pick the Christian format from the formats tab at the top.

So I would be stunned if Adam got the pimp spot ‘” those go to superstars ‘” not to guys who are just starting out in the business, no matter how much publicity they’ve received.

The AMA official YT channel just put up a video pimping Adam for the Red Carpet. If you theory is correct, why didn’t they pick a different superstar?

Did you forget that the blog of an exec of the AMA’s said that that the AMA announcement press turn-out was the biggest because of a certain someone?

Fingers crossed for PIMP SPOT!

jpfan
October 23, 2009 at 3:08 pm
They usually pimp the ones with albums coming out or out already.
Cook and Danny have nothing that current to promote. Plus Cook got his AMA promo last year. I think the tie in with 2012 makes it likely Adam is doing TFM and not his ‘new’  single.

That’s one explanation, I could think of another.

Also, Cook got the AMA pre-show last year not the prime time show. HUGE difference. Also, didn’t Danny say he’d have his album out in November?? I could be wrong about that one, but I could swear I recall a tweet to that effect.

Daily Metal
American Idol winner Adam Lambert may not be metal, but he is a cherubic little glam rock angel with an insane vocal range.

Soooo, I’m guessing that after watching the performance with KISS they changed the channel?

It looks like I’m not the only one excited about The Adam-Justin Hawkins collaboration:

Daily Metal
American Idol winner Adam Lambert may not be metal, but he is a cherubic little glam rock angel with an insane vocal range. Plus, he’s got rave reviews from Slash and Brian May, so bitch please, I am not the only one who is a certified Glambert asshole.

not a good way to improve glambert’s public image.

No’ ¦.I love them both but David A is 18 going on 13 and Allison is 18
going on 40.

LMAO on that one.

I doubt Adam is doing TfM at AMAs. And I most certainly doubt he gets the pimp spot (though he should) – but I think that was probably a joke anyways

I tend to agree that now with TfM out and more promo for it coming next week, that is naturally leading to a delay in releasing the first single, since they probably don’t want to unnecessarily clog the charts now with Adam releases right on top of each other. I’m betting it’ll be a few weeks before the single drops (or at least gets teased), and then the more full blown treatment can occur when it’s performed live.

Yeah sure, TfM performed with backup dancers, wild coustuming, and flaming headdress. Yep, he sure is going to perform TfM at the AMAs.

Yes, yes I can see it. They can blow up the stage while adam and the dancers are performing j/k

I think the tie in with 2012 makes it likely Adam is doing TFM and not his ‘new’  single.

Please explain how this is likely when Adam already said in various interviews that he will be doing an OTT performance of his new single.

Also, didn’t Danny say he’d have his album out in November?? I could be wrong about that one, but I could swear I recall a tweet to that effect.

First single out in Nov. Album not till March.

haha, Jim was totally man-crushed on Archie ..Hope his wife wwas not jeolous. hahaa

hhhmmm… Jim has man-crushed on Archie… and Kris.. and both of them are younger and smaller…. sounds familiar??? I wonder if his wife can see the patern here… LOL

It looks like I’m not the only one excited about The Adam-Justin Hawkins collaboration:

Daily Metal
American Idol winner Adam Lambert may not be metal, but he is a cherubic little glam rock angel with an insane vocal range. Plus, he’s got rave reviews from Slash and Brian May, so bitch please, I am not the only one who is a certified Glambert asshole. Anyway, his album debuted in November and the hype around it is already pretty intense. But- no one really knows what to expect. Will he stick with his rock roots or go the American Idol-pop-music way?
Well, you can exhale! (I know every metal head is dying with anticipation). Three songs from his album have been released to some media outlets and the reviews are good. Here is the kicker- JUSTIN HAWKINS FROM THE DARKNESS /HOT LEG wrote and plays guitar on one of the tracks- ‘Music Again’ . I am so fucking excited for this that I could crap my pants. The second this shit is leaked I am breaking the law and posting it here for you all to enjoy

http://nonemoreblakk.blogspot.com/2009/10/daily-metal_23.html

Who’d have ever thunk it?! Adam appealing to Metal fans. That’s just too cool.

NGL, Sunn, this post made my freaking day. Best. Review. Evah!

Hmm, and now he segues into garnering not just rock, but metal cred. Beautiful.

“Feeling Good”-loved it live, others like studio version better. I was reading DDD boys Adam thread. One of the posters had been criticizing Adam with some fairly nasty language-(voice) has a shitload of flaws, shit overall tone, programed by a computer, over-acting, mechanical, sounds like balls, etc. On April 30th, he posts a link to “Feeling Good” and says “i take back a lot of what i said”.
I think most of Adam’s critics haven’t really been listening.

Brilliant, thanks Kirsten.

Also, didn’t Danny say he’d have his album out in November?? I could be wrong about that one, but I could swear I recall a tweet to that effect.

His single, not his album. No way he’d get an album out by November, even if he does KLC’s it. (Recall, she purportedly recorded her album in 4 days…)

LOL, Adam isn’t performing TFM on the AMAs. He’s saving that for the Oscars.

In all seriousness…

Please explain how this is likely when Adam already said in various interviews that he will be doing an OTT performance of his new single.

This.

Isn’t TFM considered a single? Especially since it’ll be on his album. But if he means his really new single, then I guess it’s not TFM. Danny’s album is released in March with a possible single in November.

Did Adam say he was going with a flaming headress? That’ll be interesting.

Two new concerts added were added to David Cook’s Declaration tour.

Probably these aren’t as much as tour dates but two gigs he’ll be doing for the end of the year. I don’t think David will be touring much during December, at least based on what he has said. But doing gigs at the end of the year is always good cause they pay well. lol

didn’t Danny say he’d have his album out in November??

No. His album is only coming out next year.

but I think that was probably a joke anyways

yeah, I was joking. NOT

I’m betting it’ll be a few weeks before the single drops (or at least gets teased), and then the more full blown treatment can occur when it’s performed live.

But there is only a few weeks before the album comes out anyway. Do you think there’s a possibility that they might pull a “Rolling Stone” and not even drop a complete single until the AMA’s? It doesn’t make sense because the AMA’s are they day before his album drops, but the clock is rapidly ticking and there is much to be done.

ok mid way through the interview….and i’m jumping up and down!!!!

jon foreman’s song made it to kris’s album!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow! and its called Lifetime…..sigh…i bet its one of those beautiful and meaningful heart rendering songs jon is famous for….

AOL radio tweets:

We got the Adam Lambert song “Time for Miracles” from the movie “2012″…find out where we’re playing it in just a bit…

NGL, backstories are irrelevant to a song.

gemini1, they are relevant if they give more understanding of a song

But there is only a few weeks before the album comes out anyway. Do you think there’s a possibility that they might pull a ‘Rolling Stone’  and not even drop a complete single until the AMA’s? It doesn’t make sense because the AMA’s are they day before his album drops, but the clock is rapidly ticking and there is much to be done.

But it’s 4 weeks till the album drops. My best guess at this point has the single not dropping till after the TII dust settles and TfM (hopefully) works some more magic on the charts as a result – maybe either Nov 2 or 9 (or the week between some time). By then he’ll be doing the interview rounds with that single in tow, and then we get the full performance a few weeks later with the AMAs.

Missed most of the discussion, but chiming in to add to the crew who doubts Adam will perform TfM (or last) on the AMAs. Sure it’s possible and may even seem likely, but the “excitement” of the song itself comes via all the background vocalists tying into lead. To me, TfM would be horribly difficult to pull off effectively live. Yes, I know, tracks and tapes, yada, yada… But I’m not seeing it.

Then again, Cook singing LO live didn’t really seem likely or simple either, but…

Then there remains the fact that Adam said he’d be debuting his album single, but he also said TfM would not be on the album, so… things change.

Let’s just say, I hope not. It’s not what I want (most important lol) and I don’t think it’ll be the best showcase for Adam. We’ll see soon enough, well not, but you KWIM.

LOL, Adam isn’t performing TFM on the AMAs. He’s saving that for the Oscars.

In all seriousness’ ¦

Exactly. And I’m completely serious with that.

@Mary102
October 23, 2009 at 3:41 pm
LOL, Adam isn’t performing TFM on the AMAs. He’s saving that for the Oscars.

Exactly. And I’m completely serious with that.

I agree. Totally.

LOL, Adam isn’t performing TFM on the AMAs. He’s saving that for the Oscars.

In all seriousness’ ¦

Exactly. And I’m completely serious with that.

That’s what I’m saying.

I think his single is the 4th song Lyndsay did not review. I really wish it was Music Again she got me all hyped for that one.

Oh Hai – I just noticed we have headlines.

So Danny isn’t managed by 19– why was he getting so much pimpage during the show? A disconnect between the judges and TPTB? I don’t get it.

Blake’s album list – I agree with a several of his choices. I have to say I still love Violator and listen to it often after all these years.

@Mary102
October 23, 2009 at 3:41 pm
LOL, Adam isn’t performing TFM on the AMAs. He’s saving that for the Oscars.

I agree. Totally.

Back. ITA as well. He’s not singing TFM the AMAs–he wants to sing something edgy. TFM is not edgy (tho I do like it). It is also, as far as I know, not considered his first single. And I could see him singing this at the Oscars. Why can’t he, if it’s nominated for song of the year, soundtrack? Am I missing something here?

I’ve been doing superficial market research at work. This means I’m listening to local radio stations (local = NYC) while cooking. (Bounces happily – it’s a new job doing my big passion.) Normally, I listen to classic rock, filk or spoken word, so I’m making a sacrifice here.

Yesterday, I listened to WWFS, which bills itself as “fresh”, is classified as “AC” and seems to love American Idol because they play at least one Idol song an hour. In the three hours I listened (another reason I love my job – 3 hours a day), I heard Cook once and Daughtry twice. They’ve also played Jordin, Kelly and Archie, according to their playlist. Kris isn’t there. However, I checked and Kris is getting no AC spins, so that’s less odd. And there’s a Nickelback song that’s practically the same as LLWD.

Today, i put on WPLJ, which is the #1 HAC station in the US. The songs aren’t really all that different, although I found I actually liked a few. They, too, played Cook as well as Taylor Swift and that same Nickelback song. But only ten minutes after they played that, there was Kris Allen.

NGL, I grinned. I didn’t expect it at all and I was happy he’s getting played, especially in that market. It also sounded pretty good to me.

Daily Metal
American Idol winner Adam Lambert may not be metal, but he is a cherubic little glam rock angel with an insane vocal range.

I just adore this!

@Mary102
October 23, 2009 at 3:41 pm
LOL, Adam isn’t performing TFM on the AMAs. He’s saving that for the Oscars.

In all seriousness’ ¦

Exactly. And I’m completely serious with that.

I agree. Totally.

Back. ITA as well.

So glad to see we all agree!!!

Adam will sing whatever Adam sings on the AMA’s. It wouldn’t surprise me if he debuted the new single there. It would be a fabulous way to kickstart CD sales. He’ll be doing promotions that week for the CD anyhow, and now that the single release is going to be so close to the CD release (or so it appears) they might as well kill both birds with one stone so to speak.

Who is more excited about seeing Adam on the big screen with surround sound than the movie TII? I told my husband I’ve been hearing really good things about TII, and I wanted to see that movie at the IMAX with surround sound. He gave me “that look”.

There is no way that Adam is performing TfM at the AMAs — he has said multiple times that it will be his album single — which wasn’t selected yet.

FYE album track list being selected today. Multiple tweets from collaborators who are waiting for their phone calls.

No word on status of single but normally that is finalized after the album in made up — even if there is a strong front runner.

Sunn, thanks for the review. I still am so excited about the Justin Hawkins collab with Adam — gives him glam and metal cred! Plus, I am a huge Hawkins fan!!

“And if a special relationship really does exist, I wonder why they didn’t pick Cook, Kris and Danny to appear? I mean it would make sense to promote the new guys that need it, not the group that sold over 12 million albums between them.”

I think they are going with the people who are hot at the moment. It’s not a slap in the face, just because they were left out. As for Adam performing, how many of us realistically thought he would actually be asked to perform. I think a lot of people thought, maybe he would get the same gig as Cook had the year before.

But there is only a few weeks before the album comes out anyway. Do you think there’s a possibility that they might pull a ‘Rolling Stone’  and not even drop a complete single until the AMA’s? It doesn’t make sense because the AMA’s are they day before his album drops, but the clock is rapidly ticking and there is much to be done.

Well, the album really comes out five weeks from now. That seems to me like plenty of time to coast for a bit on the TFM buzz — giving time for it to play with TII around the world and so on. And then release a single in mid-November, which would still be at least two weeks before the album drops, maybe even three …

‘Feeling Good’ -loved it live, others like studio version better. I was reading DDD boys Adam thread. One of the posters had been criticizing Adam with some fairly nasty language-(voice) has a shitload of flaws, shit overall tone, programed by a computer, over-acting, mechanical, sounds like balls, etc. On April 30th, he posts a link to ‘Feeling Good’  and says ‘i take back a lot of what i said’ .
I think most of Adam’s critics haven’t really been listening.

ITA. My favorite song of Adam’s in the studio is Feeling Good. He uses all of his vocal range. It has a sincerity that some of his other songs do not (not that BTBW or WLL should, lol). It gives me chills. I love One (studio), MW (both), and ACIGC (both), but FG is my favorite. So anyone who wants to pigeonhole him, well, listen to Come Home (Upright) and I Just Love You (Five for Fighting Cover) and the Crawl Thru Fire (Zodiac Show) and RoF and tell me he can’t take on all kinds of genres and perform them brilliantly. He can. He is the *it* performer right now (from InStyle and Details to 2012 and the AMAs), and I hope this lasts for, like, ever.

ETA: Track listing TODAY? Available? See, I knew I had to stay close to the internet, even during my weekend away. And J Hawkins should be an interesting collaboration, much different than the one with, say, RedOne.

And if a special relationship really does exist, I wonder why they didn’t pick Cook, Kris and Danny to appear? I mean it would make sense to promote the new guys that need it, not the group that sold over 12 million albums between them.’ 

You just answered the question.

Adam moved back up to #14 on itunes

Is this Kelly Clarkson’s first time has performed at the AMAs? The IMDb database does show her as ever performing before. But it isn’t complete.

I wonder why they didn’t pick Cook, Kris and Danny to appear? I mean it would make sense to promote the new guys that need it,

I wouldn’t exactly equate these guys.

@Mary102
October 23, 2009 at 3:41 pm
LOL, Adam isn’t performing TFM on the AMAs. He’s saving that for the Oscars.

In all seriousness’ ¦

Exactly. And I’m completely serious with that.

I agree. Totally.

Back. ITA as well.

Nothing better than to hear sing Adam live. His vocals at The Oscars are going to kill. He’ll sing in front of the biggest movie people in the industry. More exposure to a whole new subset of entertainment folks.

Squirrely
October 23, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Adam moved back up to #14 on itunes

Woot. How do we get it back to Top 10? (Kidding; it will when the video, which I love, BTW, is shown before TII; watch it happen.)

Suebrody-On April 30th, he posts a link to ‘Feeling Good’  and says ‘i take back a lot of what i said’ .

I remember that but couldn’t get the link that went with that post. I didn’t realize it was “Feeling Good” until now. That particular poster seemed to become more and more of a fan after that also. It’s the person with the squirrel avatar right? Well they sure did a 180 after that performance.

The Hawkins collaboration scares me……..a LOT!

Yep, its the first time for Kelly.

Oops sorry now it’s #17 I must have not changed my numbers – Sorry Sue

@mamadeb, congrats on the new job! Sounds awesome.

ITA, I have been monitoring the L.A.-equivalent station ‘“ practically an All Idols, all the time ‘“ for weeks and they have yet to play LLWD. They didn’t even play it when they were interviewing Kris!! That I do not get.

And count me in with I do not think Adam is going to do TfM for a second. He only said repeatedly that it would be his single performance debut.

[hwc mode]

The glowing metal review obviously proves that Mr. Lambert’s brand is terribly fractured. I’m revising my album sales prediction down to 100,000.

[/hwc mode]

I wonder why they didn’t pick Cook, Kris and Danny to appear? I mean it would make sense to promote the new guys that need it,

I wouldn’t exactly equate these guys.

I suspect there *is* some kind of business relationship between 19 and the AMAs. There are business ties and you-scratch-my-backs among many of these big enterprises, if for no other reason than just so they can cooperate to make sure that the littler guys are all firmly squeezed out.

But I doubt very much that it’s the kind of arrangement that would benefit 19 — by giving publicity to their signees — while *not* benefitting the AMA by driving their ratings.

The fact is, the whole point of the AMA show is to get big ratings and be popular popular popular, and they’re therefore going to pick performers that they know will drive their audience share. They may well pick those performers from among the signees or alumni of one of their informal business partners, 19 and/or Idol and/or Sony/RCA– thus the big influx of Idols on the show this year. But they’re certainly *not* going to pick them except from people who have the proven ability to move a lot of units (Kelly, Carrie, Daughtry) or attract a lot of eyeballs (Adam.)

So, they’re saying a big yes to Idols. But a big no to Idols who they aren’t sure will really really help their own ratings.

clearone
October 23, 2009 at 4:01 pm
The Hawkins collaboration scares me’ ¦’ ¦..a LOT!

Just wondering…why? Too OTT? We had linkage a few hundred posts ago (or Wednesday) on how his later work was toned down.

I don’t know J Hawkins. I wanna hear some new music. I almost don’t care what at this point. Okay, I do, but I trust RCA/Adam to pick the appropriate song.

Squirrely, I’m crying,

I still haven’t heard LLWD on mix104.1 in Boston…

“And if a special relationship really does exist, I wonder why they didn’t pick Cook, Kris and Danny to appear? I mean it would make sense to promote the new guys that need it, not the group that sold over 12 million albums between them.’ 

They are trying to get viewers. This is not a charity event.

So Danny isn’t managed by 19′“ why was he getting so much pimpage during the show? A disconnect between the judges and TPTB? I don’t get it.

Maybe they realized that Danny didn’t know much about music. Maybe they realized that he had foot-in-mouth disease.

Thank you, SusanM. I’ve been out of work for over a year, so you can imagine how good it feels to do this.

I agree, too, that Adam is not going to to TfM at the AMAs. This is his first chance to show the world exactly what he can do and who he is, and he’s not gong to waste the chance. TfM is lovely (imho), but it’s not really Adam and it’s certainly not the dancy glam-rock song of his dreams.

Re: the former Idols on the AMAs, there may very well be a business relationship between 19 and the AMAs, BUT, I doubt that is why they are on the show. The AMAs are all about what is popular and Carrie is one of the most popular country acts out there, kelly is one of the most popular pop acts, and daughtry is one of the most popular pop/rock acts….so it makes sense that they would be AMA performers….

This theory of a 19/AMA connection seems cracked to me.

I’m glad Kris is not on that list. I am tired of people trying to join Kris and Adam at the hip. Let Kradam exist as a wonderful friendship, nothing else.

NGL, I totally agree with this ^^^, and I love you, too!

Nice to see that NoBo isn’t on Kris’ album.

LOL! Was there really any doubt? Once it got kicked off the tour set list (after like, 3 shows) I didn’t imagine for a second it would make his album (lucky Kris!)

And I could see him singing this at the Oscars. Why can’t he, if it’s nominated for song of the year, soundtrack? Am I missing something here?

If the song is nominated (fingers crossed) he will almost definitely perform it on the oscars, unless there was a huge scheduling conflict, and very few people will allow a scheduling conflict to get in the way of performing on the oscars.

One of the posters had been criticizing Adam with some fairly nasty language-(voice) has a shitload of flaws, shit overall tone, programed by a computer, over-acting, mechanical, sounds like balls, etc. On April 30th, he posts a link to ‘Feeling Good’  and says ‘i take back a lot of what i said’ .

Just had to chime in on this briefly. I will say that Adam is NOT a perfect vocalist (then again, who is?) but he is still pretty damn brilliant, and better than about 99% of the people currently out there

halfie
October 23, 2009 at 4:06 pm
[hwc mode]

The glowing metal review obviously proves that Mr. Lambert’s brand is terribly fractured. I’m revising my album sales prediction down to 100,000.

[/hwc mode]

Nice channelling of your alter-ego…and here I thought the two of you hadn’t met.

halfie
October 23, 2009 at 4:06 pm
[hwc mode]

The glowing metal review obviously proves that Mr. Lambert’s brand is terribly fractured. I’m revising my album sales prediction down to 100,000.

[/hwc mode]

LOL! Too funny, halfie! There is now no doubt in my mind that you and hwc are one and the same

Daily Metal
American Idol winner Adam Lambert may not be metal, but he is a cherubic little glam rock angel with an insane vocal range.

I guess metal dude didn’t watch the show.

BeckyMD
October 23, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Adam’s Faves: No. 5 from Details: fav Energy drink

http://www.details.com/blogs/daily-details/2009/10/adam-lamberts-faves-no-5.html

lol He also says this in InStyle Magazine (he’s at the back of the magazine; I bought it a few hours after I bought Details, so all I need now is Elle, and my collection will complete (since I have 1 RS and 2 EWs).

Who will be at AMAs? Daughtry and Kelly (and Adam)? What about Cook and Carrie (or is it Carrie and not Kelly)? Will Kris be there? Are there still Idols and others TBD?

Who will be at AMAs? Daughtry and Kelly (and Adam)? What about Cook and Carrie (or is it Carrie and not Kelly)? Will Kris be there? Are there still Idols and others TBD?

People.com confirmed Daughry, Kelly, Carrie, and Adam will be performing. No word on if any others may be presenting or involved in some other capacity.

My tweeter feed is full of angst because of adam’s tracklist:

AimeeMayo I heard they are choosing the track list today- I need every prayer and positive thought I can get. Pleeeeeeeeeeease’ ¦. ‘Sleep Walker’ 8 minutes ago from web

Alisan and particularly AIMEE are not allowed to tweet when I am not there to worry with them! Off to tweet Aimee…

I think his single is the 4th song Lyndsay did not review.

I agree and this makes me more and more certain that they’ve actually had the first single nailed down for awhile now (at least that it’s already been selected). I think Adam’s just being coy in all the interviews about not having selected it yet.

This just tweeted:

RT @runawaysu: I hope @adamlambert @OhFerras @ali22san and @elythecreep ‘s song makes the cut!!! I can feel the vibes!!!!
2 minutes ago from UberTwitter

*fingers crossed so hard they are bleeding, as I tweeted Alisan and Aimee*

I don’t see any reason why Carrie, Kelly & Daughtry wouldn’t perform – they are big stars with either new-ish albums out or albums coming out. The rest of the Idols aren’t even close to them at this point. Adam has a ton of buzz and excitement about him so even though he hasn’t dropped his single or album, I’m sure they think he’ll bring in viewers. It’s business, after all. David Cook doesn’t have anything going on right now in the music department, no singles on Top 40, album has been out forever. He also got the red carpet gig last year which was pretty cool.

I, for one, am not surprised he’s not on there. I won’t even go down my path of mumbling angrily about the singles that weren’t released for him and how I think things could have gone differently hits-wise but… ooooommmm. Just gives me heartburn, ha. I’m just gonna keep on enjoying the neverending tour

sidewalkstory
October 23, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Hola! Am pretty much off-line till Sunday’“niece ‘s Bat Mitsvah’“

Has this been tweeted as many times as it’s been posted here?

ETA: I totally agree re: Cook. Two singles released in a year? WHY? Where is LIE already? *sigh*

I agree and this makes me more and more certain that they’ve actually had the first single nailed down for awhile now

I do not think they had it for a while now. I actually think Adam liked “Strut” the best at one point. They may have had a single this week when Lindsay heard it, but I do believe the selection was something very recent.

Kris I can see expecting/hoping he would have been asked to perform but not David. He has no single and he’s out of his album cycle. Pretty simple. Every year the winner is involved in the AMA’s in some form even if its just presenting, like what he did last year along with the red carpet performance. Now lets see if Kris is at least asked to present.

Someone better send Aimee some major meds if her song doesnt make it. Geez.

Someone asked about Carrie on the Vibe Raters list? I found an old entry for her

Carrie Underwood
Arista/RMG
album: Some Hearts
track: Some Hearts/Jesus, Take The Wheel

America’s Golden Girl does it big! Some Hearts new at: WKFS, WAKS, KMKB, more. Jesus… spinning: at KEEY, WGAR, KPLX, WUBE, WUSN, KTYS, more. Top 10 LP! Video premiered last week on Yahoo Music, CMT.com, and AOL.com. Upcoming 2006 tour. Teen People, USA Today. 850k shipped. Mgmt: Simon Fuller/19 Ent.

This just tweeted:

RT @runawaysu: I hope @adamlambert @OhFerras @ali22san and @elythecreep ‘s song makes the cut!!! I can feel the vibes!!!!
2 minutes ago from UberTwitter

*fingers crossed so hard they are bleeding, as I tweeted Alisan and Aimee*

suebrody, you’re gonna have to do some major mothering of these guys whether the songs make the cut or not

I’m starting to think Adam will do TFM on the AMAs. It will be a good promotion for the movie. They’re waiting kind of long for his first ‘real’  single to make much noise on the radio.

I would bet that the possible single has been narrowed down and the group was played for the AMA producers prior to Adam even being selected. It’s not going to be TFM.

Didn’t Daughtry’s single (Also RCA) come out much closer to his album release?? Didn’t seem to hurt him any in terms of sales or exposure. RCA isn’t Jive. Adam isn’t Kris or any other idol. They also seem to follow a different path.

Not gonna lie, I haven’t been able to predict a damn thing about Adam so far, I’m just enjoying the ride. People predicted that the gig to announce the ama nominations was the only thing he would get. The same people predicted that if he were going to perform, it would be in the preshow. The same people predicted that there was no way in hell he would get to perform on the AMA’s. Not gonna lie, those people turned out to be pretty much completely wrong. So, we’ll see.

I do not think they had it for a while now.

Agreed. I don’t necessarily think it was awhile awhile, but I think it has already been picked, that Lyndsey may even know of it (thus was told not to include it in her review), and that Adam probably did too even in the last few weeks when asked about it.

lol He also says this in InStyle Magazine (he’s at the back of the magazine; I bought it a few hours after I bought Details, so all I need now is Elle, and my collection will complete (since I have 1 RS and 2 EWs).

What was the 2nd EW? I only know the cover issue from way back. Did it happen during last week’s Adam Storm? I couldn’t keep up with all the info then, but don’t want to miss out!! Help me, suebrody!!

Every year the winner is involved in the AMA’s in some form even if its just presenting, like what he did last year along with the red carpet performance. Now lets see if Kris is at least asked to present.

I hope not. Does Kris have to be everywhere Adam is? Enough Kradam. As I said above, let Kradam be a wonderful friendship, nothing more.

BeckyMD
October 23, 2009 at 3:23 pm
It looks like I’m not the only one excited about The Adam-Justin Hawkins collaboration:

Daily Metal
American Idol winner Adam Lambert may not be metal, but he is a cherubic little glam rock angel with an insane vocal range. Plus, he’s got rave reviews from Slash and Brian May, so bitch please, I am not the only one who is a certified Glambert asshole.

not a good way to improve glambert’s public image.

I think it affects Kris’s image a little more than Adam’s, since Adam didn’t have anything to do with the article.

What was the 2nd EW? I only know the cover issue from way back. Did it happen during last week’s Adam Storm? I couldn’t keep up with all the info then, but don’t want to miss out!! Help me, suebrody!!

I subscribe to EW, and the only other major mention of Adam was last week’s MJ cover issue, which had the Adam studio pics and quotes. Only the one cover back in May.

suebrody: … I was reading DDD boys Adam thread. One of the posters had been criticizing Adam with some fairly nasty language-(voice) has a shitload of flaws, shit overall tone, programed by a computer, over-acting, mechanical, sounds like balls, etc. On April 30th, he posts a link to ‘Feeling Good’  and says ‘i take back a lot of what i said’ .

[laugh] That wouldn’t have been Jestercide, would it? Man, he HATED Adam from February through April…and then did a 180 after that song. If I remember correctly, there wasn’t *anyone* more pissed than him when Adam was in bottom 2 that week! Hell, I think everyone on DDD was furious that week.

Gigi-Adam was in last week’s EW with MJ on the cover. It was him in the studio and gave away the three titles- Strut, Loaded Smile ( Linda Pery) and What Do You Want From Me” ( Pink)

If Kris were to present while Adam is performing one has nothing to do with the other. Season 2 Clay and Ruben performed together. Now that’s linking the winner and runner-up. Believe me I have zero investment in Kradam, NONE.

posted way earlier on thread:” Lindsey Rose is having a rough go of it lately. Your prayers & good thoughts are all appreciated. …
This was tweeted by the Belchers, Lindsay Rose’s parents. She’s the little girl who is a big fan of David Cook’s and has been battling leukemia.” David Cook still wears that orange bracelet for Lindsey Rose.

changing the subject, for anyone who didn’t look in the CookWood thread – Cookie tweeted these from his way to Indiana for Extreme Home Makeover:
In Chicago. Flight connections! Deliriously tired, but oddly content. Oh, and I lost my sunglasses. File this under pointless tweetering

I did not shave. Odd I have to tweet that. Absurdity is afoot…

Band played great and I didn’t fall over. Operation underwood holiday special a success. Off to the airport

Hell, I think everyone on DDD was furious that week.

Hell, I think every AI fan (Adam fan or otherwise) was furious that week Idolatry boards exploded after that day (shuttering now to think of it)

I think it affects Kris’s image a little more than Adam’s, since Adam didn’t have anything to do with the article.

The blogger referred him/herself as a Glambert. It has nothing to do w/ Adam or Kris.

Yep, that’s what I meant, sorry. EW had the page devoted to Adam “in the studio” a couple of weeks ago, mentioning three of his songs (pics were very cute; Dickens scarf!).

Three covers:
EW (around Top 3, I believe)
RS (right after Idol ended)
Details (now)

Adam was also mentioned a couple of times in EW and RS and now the back page of InStyle. Sorry for the confusion. Also, I will stop talking about Alisan and Aimee unless either/both make Adam’s album. Then I will. They don’t need my mothering, I am just happy to offer them and Ferras, who is way cool, my support.

Yes re: Kradam and Kradison. They are all friends, but its time has come and gone. (And clearly Matt and Kris are friends, etc.)

Speaking of EW, ouch! On the Bullseye page at the back Adam’s TfM made the target with this caption:

Adam Lambert’s new single “Time for Miracles.” Rejected title: “Kris Allen is Going to Need a Miracle to Outsell My Album.”

CindyM

Not gonna lie, I haven’t been able to predict a damn thing about Adam so far, I’m just enjoying the ride.

The only thing we can do is ride this storm out, because Adam is defying all the rules.

It makes it all the more fun.

Sunn: It looks like I’m not the only one excited about The Adam-Justin Hawkins collaboration:

Daily Metal (link)
American Idol winner Adam Lambert may not be metal, but he is a cherubic little glam rock angel with an insane vocal range. Plus, he’s got rave reviews from Slash and Brian May, so bitch please, I am not the only one who is a certified Glambert asshole….Will he stick with his rock roots or go the American Idol-pop-music way? Well, you can exhale! (I know every metal head is dying with anticipation). Three songs from his album have been released to some media outlets and the reviews are good. Here is the kicker- JUSTIN HAWKINS FROM THE DARKNESS /HOT LEG wrote and plays guitar on one of the tracks- ‘Music Again’ . I am so fucking excited for this that I could crap my pants. The second this shit is leaked I am breaking the law and posting it here for you all to enjoy

Who’d have ever thunk it?! Adam appealing to Metal fans. That’s just too cool.

[laugh] Why are y’all so surprised?! Metal has possessed some FANTASTIC voices. I know everyone was hoping for Aerosmith, Axl, etc on Rock Night. I was praying for Scorpions! Can you *imagine* Adam singing “Still Loving You”??!!! Klaus Meine’s voice is INSANE. If no one has heard this song, please search on YouTube (I don’t have access right now and sadly my only current copy is on cassette tape).

Honestly, I would KILL for Adam to do a cover of this song. He is the only person I can think of who’s physically capable of singing it.

Adam Lambert’s new single ‘Time for Miracles.’  Rejected title: ‘Kris Allen is Going to Need a Miracle to Outsell My Album.’ 

How the hell did that get past Slezak and Baldwin? Someone isn’t getting their Kris Kringle gift at the office Christmas party!

I hope not. Does Kris have to be everywhere Adam is? Enough Kradam. As I said above, let Kradam be a wonderful friendship, nothing more.

So, just cause Adam is there Kris can’t be there? People are seen in many events at the same time, when you’re in the business it happens. It doesn’t make any sense for Kris not to go just cause Adam is performing.

Speaking of Kris, apparently he and Jordin will be at z100 JINGLE BAL this year (I’m getting this from twitter, but can’t find a real source. AINow has it listed too )

Adam Lambert’s new single ‘Time for Miracles.’  Rejected title: ‘Kris Allen is Going to Need a Miracle to Outsell My Album.’ 

I have this issue but I didn’t look at the bullseye page yet. That is so mean.

Yes, Adam’s big critic was Jestercide. He was, also, calling the other poster’s names. I’ve wondered whether Adam had seen that thread. At one point, Jestercide calls out one of the other guys and says, “What are you 12????” After the fart twits (tweets?), Adam tweeted, “What are you 12?” I don’t have that exact quote.

Daily Metal (link)

LMAO at the photoshopeed pic of Adam and Justin spooning! And the comment section!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOLOLOLOL! Brown paper bag! I did that with my Details magazine!

Adam Lambert’s new single ‘Time for Miracles.’  Rejected title: ‘Kris Allen is Going to Need a Miracle to Outsell My Album.’ 

I have this issue but I didn’t look at the bullseye page yet. That is so mean.

Total suckage, EW. That is funny…why?

BTW, KISS 108 in Boston also has the Jingle Ball. They are now offering two for one tickets (not selling enough, I guess). If Kris was playing, I would have bought them immediately, but I am not interested in Jordin, so I am not going.

I would like to see Kris at the AMAs b/c he also has a new album dropping (and just before). It has nothing to do with Kradam or competition. However, he did win Idol, so I hope he will at least get to be on the Red Carpet or something.

“not a good way to improve glambert’s public image.”

If Adam’s image was determined by each and every article written about him, then his public image would change hourly.

Adam Lambert’s new single ‘Time for Miracles.’  Rejected title: ‘Kris Allen is Going to Need a Miracle to Outsell My Album.’ 

I have this issue but I didn’t look at the bullseye page yet. That is so mean.

I agree that is very meanspirited.

…and to answer someone’s question, yes I find Hawkins OTT. I’m already nervous about Adam’s possible OTTedness on this CD so seeing someone like Hawkins involved increased my nervousness.

Watching General Hospital again…They closed the show with Mad World again, last 45 seconds. Now the storyline is tied in with Jason Morgan, one of the most popular characters. Damn, they must love the song, 3 times this week!

sidewalkstory

It has nothing to do with Adam, or Kradam. If EVERY year the AI winner has some role at the AMAs, then that suggests that Kris (as the AI winner) would have some role — regardless of whether Adam is there or not…

David Cook’s tour is listed as #3 rock tour on AOL tour tracker, FWIW
http://www.tourtracker.com/

Altho I am THRILLED that Adam is going to perform at the AMA’s (ANYthing is fine by me)I think it was kind of a slap in the face for Kris not to be asked to perform. Imean, after all, he DID win!

bridgette12
October 23, 2009 at 4:55 pm
‘not a good way to improve glambert’s public image.’ 

If Adam’s image was determined by each and every article written about him, then his public image would change hourly.
LOL

Laterz (sorry, sidewalkstory, just sayin’ I won’t be posting every five seconds for a while )

That Daily Metal person also got her facts wrong, since s/he called Adam the winner of AI

That is a surreal comments thread on that blog post. lol Kris has a fan for sure- at least I think so.

http://nonemoreblakk.blogspot.com/2009/10/daily-metal_23.html

Adam Lambert’s new single ‘Time for Miracles.’  Rejected title: ‘Kris Allen is Going to Need a Miracle to Outsell My Album.’ 

The same magazine also had Adam’s Album as “in” and Kris’ as “out”in another session. Ouch! Caused a riot in ONTDAI.

So, just cause Adam is there Kris can’t be there?

exactly. cut the umbilical cord.

Kris will do well and get some exciting gigs. He doesn’t have to be Adam’s twin.

Damn, they must love the songs, 3 times this week!

They almost never do this on GH. This probably will not be the last time we hear it. Since this is the beginning of some BIG storyline tied to Jason who is the primo hearthrob on GH. Look out.

‘not a good way to improve glambert’s public image.’ 

If Adam’s image was determined by each and every article written about him, then his public image would change hourly.

I’m just checking in and out today, so I might not have a firm grasp of the whole thread here, but I take it this was referring to the blurb in the metal magazine(?) If so, I don’t see how this hurts his public image in any way. Not everyone likes metal music, but I always think of metal rockers as having a certain “cool” factor. I think (am hoping, anyway) that Adam will be respected in the industry for his amazing and, as far as I know, pretty much unprecedented–to the degree he has it–versatility in the music industry. Really, country is about the only genre I can’t quite picture, but that has more to do with his image than his voice. If he still looked like that cute, freckled redhead of his youth, country, or at least country rock, might even work. I truly believe that what’s going to set Adam apart in the industry, particularly in terms of male artists, is the fact that he’ll surprise us at every turn like he did on the show. Having the metal fans rooting for him is great — just another segment of the population who might buy his album!

The same magazine also had Adam’s Album as ‘in’  and Kris’ as ‘out’ in another session. Ouch! Caused a riot in ONTDAI.

EW definitely has more love for Adam, but they gave Kris some love too: positive review of LLWD in the magazine, plus had a ranking of upcoming AI albums, with Kris near the middle to top, and nothing negative in the caption.

And the bullseye is all about the snark – Adam has been on it several times, and usually they’re making fun of him (for his outfits – once after the finale, when they said something along the lines of “Maybe this is why he didn’t win” – showing a picture of the Kiss outfit. Then recently with the vampire look (which wasn’t really bad or good, just in between)).

could someone show me where the AMA’s are required to have the Idol winner on the show? Is this part of the winner’s contract? Or is it just something that the winner has traditionally done. If there is no deal between Dick Clark Productions and 19 then I think they can put on whoever they want. Perhaps I missed the memo concerning this topic.

If EVERY year the AI winner has some role at the AMAs, then that suggests that Kris (as the AI winner) would have some role ‘” regardless of whether Adam is there or not’ ¦

Is that true? Did Taylor get a role at the AMAs after his win? Did Daughtry? I’m not saying Kris is the new Taylor or Adam’s the new Daughtry– just wondering. I, like Trina, have zero investment in Kradam. I’m just anxious to hear their albums to see if I like their music, and curious to see how this album promotion period plays out.

Also, thanks for digging up Carrie’s old Vibe Raters, Trina!

exactly. cut the umbilical cord.

It’s not an umbilical cord. It’s an industry event. If Kris gets invited to present at the Grammy’s, would you want Adam to say no if they offered him a slot on that show too? Since Kris has appeared on Leno/Tonight Show and Ellen, should Adam refuse to appear on them in order to cut the umbilical cord? No, that would be daft. Those are shows people go on to promote things. No one musical artist owns them. It’s not like the AMAs are the Adam Lambert Variety Show. None of the As stand for Adam. It’s the American Music Awards and it’s not a surprise if somebody else dropping an album that week might be invited to present on the show.

I think every Idol has presented at the AMAs. Even Taylor. That year so did Kat. And I think Daughtry too.

Next thing I’m going to hear is that because so-and-so sells songs on iTunes, the other one shouldn’t.

Presenting an award isn’t being Adam’s twin. Adam is performing. They never have to be on stage at the same time. I don’t really care one way or the other, however, I have no problem with both of them being at the same award show. It’s a music industry event, there are tons of people there. Why should Kris miss the opportunity to attend and network just because Adam is there?

ETA: Yes, Taylor presented an award after winning Season 5. He looked mighty spiffy too.

Also, I will stop talking about Alisan and Aimee unless either/both make Adam’s album. Then I will. They don’t need my mothering, I am just happy to offer them and Ferras, who is way cool, my support.

Sue, I am totally rooting for Aimee and Alisan. Keeping my fingers crossed for them…

girlygirl: It has nothing to do with Adam, or Kradam. If EVERY year the AI winner has some role at the AMAs, then that suggests that Kris (as the AI winner) would have some role ‘” regardless of whether Adam is there or not’ ¦

Maybe it’s not the vote winner, per se, that’s good for AMA business, but the buzz-leader – usually that happens to also be the winner, but this year it’s Adam by a landslide. These decisions are about ratings, not what’s “fair” to the nominal winner of some competition they have no investment in.

It looks like I’m not the only one excited about The Adam-Justin Hawkins collaboration:

Daily Metal
American Idol winner Adam Lambert may not be metal, but he is a cherubic little glam rock angel with an insane vocal range.

http://nonemoreblakk.blogspot.com/2009/10/daily-metal_23.html

Who’d have ever thunk it?! Adam appealing to Metal fans. That’s just too cool.

I love it.. my best laugh of the day…… They didn’t really watch the show, did they?

Kris shouldn’t have to miss it if invited anymore than Adam should have to decline performing on the AMA’s because Kris wasn’t asked to. That thought was suggested on this board at the time of the original announcement.

No one is saying that Kris SHOULDN’T go to the AMAs because Adam is there – that’s as ridiculous as saying that Adam should have refused to perform at the AMAs because that’s the winner’s prerogative.

What they’re saying, so far as I can tell, is that the presence of one should have no bearing on the presence of the other. NGL, I think it would be nice if Kris presented at the AMAs, personally, but that’s up to the AMAs and has nothing to do with the other Idol alums.

Re the Kradam AMA thing – I’m completely of the opinion that, now that the show is over, the AI tie-ins are (mostly) over, and each will go his separate way.

Kris has a TON of gigs lined up, interviews, JingleBall events, etc. that Adam doesn’t have. Each will perform in settings that are the most appropriate for them. Kris doing an accoustic set, or doing the college tour circuit, would make a lot more sense than Adam doing those things, for instance. Adam opening for Lady Gaga, otoh, would make a lot more sense than Kris doing it (though that would be awesomely hilarious!)

If Kris and Adam were to be on the AMA’s together, I would also be more than happy with that. Then again, I still have a soft spot for Kradam (not singing together, but appearing together would be cute ) But both will likely be doing things apart from now on, simply because of the separate paths they must take to be the most successful.

Since Kris has appeared on Leno/Tonight Show and Ellen, should Adam refuse to appear on them in order to cut the umbilical cord?

separate appearances are not Kradam apperances. let them each have their own appearances. no more Kradam!

Maybe it’s not the vote winner, per se, that’s good for AMA business, but the buzz-leader ‘“ usually that happens to also be the winner, but this year it’s Adam by a landslide. These decisions are about ratings, not what’s ‘fair’  to the nominal winner of some competition they have no investment in.

I personally wouldn’t be surprised to hear that Kris will in fact be involved with the AMAs in some capacity. Especially if every other winner has had at least some involvement with it.

Adam and Kris on the same show is fine by me. Adam and Kris not on the same show is fine by me. I believe both of them will have many more opportunities to perform on and/or receive awards on such programs. Would an Adam fan not watch the show because Kris was there?

My opinion has been that they have supported each other and are still friends. That’s a good thing. They have different music styles and talents that will naturally led them down different paths. I don’t see the need to shove either of them out of the way of the other. Not sure if that’s very clear, I’ve tried not to use inflammatory language.

If Kris and Adam were to be on the AMA’s together, I would also be more than happy with that. Then again, I still have a soft spot for Kradam (not singing together, but appearing together would be cute ) But both will likely be doing things apart from now on, simply because of the separate paths they must take to be the most successful.

In terms of performances, I hope they’re kept separate from here on out, at least while they are jump-starting their careers. It was cute seeing them perform together at the Ford event, and while I certainly enjoyed their rendition of Crazy, it did no favors to either of them vocally. They are just too different. It might be cute to see them present an AMA award together, though, and I’m still keeping my fingers crossed for a joint SNL hosting gig. I think that as friends, they’re so funny together and are endearingly in sync, but as performers, they’re night and day.

In terms of performances, I hope they’re kept separate from here on out, at least while they are jump-starting their careers. It was cute seeing them perform together at the Ford event, and while I certainly enjoyed their rendition of Crazy, it did no favors to either of them vocally. They are just too different. It might be cute to see them present an AMA award together, though, and I’m still keeping my fingers crossed for a joint SNL hosting gig. I think that as friends, they’re so funny together and are endearingly in sync, but as performers, they’re night and day.

Yes – ita that, musically, they should be kept apart. Their styles are just too different, plus their voices, etc. I was not a huge fan of Crazy, for many of those reasons.

But presenting together would be awesome – in fact I might even prefer that to either of them presenting alone – they can work in some great comedy there

HoppersSkippersMiners

[laugh] Why are y’all so surprised?! Metal has possessed some FANTASTIC voices. I know everyone was hoping for Aerosmith, Axl, etc on Rock Night. I was praying for Scorpions! Can you *imagine* Adam singing ‘Still Loving You’ ??!!! Klaus Meine’s voice is INSANE. If no one has heard this song, please search on YouTube (I don’t have access right now and sadly my only current copy is on cassette tape).

Wow – I had that same desire for Adam for that EXACT song . . he’d be great on any Scorpions tune but that one particulary because it rocks and is so emotional . . .I don’t know if I had thought of it as early as Rock Week, but I definitely thought it would be a fantastic tune for him. And true, Klaus Meine is a vocal GOD. I am going to go listen to on You Tube RIGHT NOW.

But presenting together would be awesome ‘“ in fact I might even prefer that to either of them presenting alone ‘“ they can work in some great comedy there

I think presenting together would still keep them tied at the hip. NO No
No….let them seperate and get on with their careers on and off stage.
IMO. If I was a Kris fan I wouldn’t even want it. Adam outshines Kris too much. As an Adam fan, I want to see him owning the stage not having to share it. Sorry, that is just the way I feel.

But presenting together would be awesome ‘“ in fact I might even prefer that to either of them presenting alone ‘“ they can work in some great comedy there

Exactly! There’s so much comedic material they could draw from, and I really want the general public to see how personable these two guys are. When they’re together, a spark seems to be ignited, and they just crack up each other and their audience. I love it! In addition to being musically talented, they are both, in very different but very real ways, quite charismatic, and I think it could be really beneficial for the non-Idol fans to experience their cool, laid-back, and wholly amusing personalities and banter.

This week’s X Factor Song prediction
Big Band week. Guess which song Simon Cowell chose for Danyl Johnson? Feeling Good. How original.

The Twins will massacre one of Ricky Martin’s songs.

What’s will all the fighting? I’m sure they wouldn’t mind being on the same award show and neither should we. That is all.

But presenting together would be awesome ‘“ in fact I might even prefer that to either of them presenting alone ‘“ they can work in some great comedy there

If Kris presents at the AMA’s, not on current list but that would not be a surprise, I sure don’t want to see him present with Adam and then have Adam perform. That would not be good.

Personally, I hope Kris and Adam stay friends for life, and I love them both (in different ways) but I can sure live without the public existance of Kradam.

Are we rehashing the AMA performance again? Why can’t Adam have this one performance?

I don’t see anybody saying that Adam shouldn’t be allowed to perform.

Some of us are just objecting to the view that Kris should be banned from the venue and forced to watch the thing on TV. We just don’t see a problem if he gets invited to present like a lot of Idols (and all Idol winners and most runner-ups before him) have. It’s an industry event. He drops a CD that week. I would hope his managers would be trying to get him a presenter slot or at least an invite to sit in chair.

The only people for whom “Kradam” even exists are idol loons like us. The general public, even those who watch idol but don’t go on-line, would have no idea what “Kradam” even means. I think people on-line blow it up way out of proportion.

VFTW radio had the U of Wisconsin student newspaper journalists, who were attacked mercilessly by Archie fans for a less than positive review of the Xmas cd, on the radio show on the 21st. All in all a pretty funny segment.
http://www.votefortheworst.com/radio/20091021/vftw_radio_10_21_09_special_guests_ann_rivall_and_cailley_hammel

If Kris presents at the AMA’s, not on current list but that would not be a surprise, I sure don’t want to see him present with Adam and then have Adam perform. That would not be good.

This. I just feel bad that the WINNERof AI didn’t get asked to perform. I am a major Adam fan but it just doesn’t seem right that he was asked to perform and not Kris.

But presenting together would be awesome ‘“ in fact I might even prefer that to either of them presenting alone ‘“ they can work in some great comedy there

I would like to see them both as presenters as well. I like the friendship between Kris and Adam and yeah, I do think they have a good vibe and can be funny. Their pre-tour interviews, or stint guest hosting Ryan Seacrest’s Top 40 were really fun for me. I think Kradam friendship is still love. No it doesn’t mean they’re joined at the hip to do a few presentations together. And this Adam stand doesn’t think ‘poor Kris,’ when they’re together, because Adam isn’t an asshat and shares the stage with Kris. And again, usually in a nice way.

The two David’s last year were just fine and dandy with their respective careers desipte doing lots of things together after the show and tour ended, and even this year, doing a concert in Manila together.

larchcat: Wow ‘“ I had that same desire for Adam for that EXACT song . . he’d be great on any Scorpions tune but that one particulary because it rocks and is so emotional . . .I don’t know if I had thought of it as early as Rock Week, but I definitely thought it would be a fantastic tune for him. And true, Klaus Meine is a vocal GOD. I am going to go listen to on You Tube RIGHT NOW.

LINK, larchcat!! Bring back a good LINK!!!

BestAI: Is Allison starting to promote her single/album? I haven’t seen any dates for her yet, and I thought Jive did a lot of early promotions.

She hasn’t done any appearances yet, but it was announced earlier this week that she is scheduled for a Jingle Jam in the Memphis area. She’s in rehearsals now.

She’d better get scheduled for a Jingle Jam in my area, or I might start cutting myself!

The joint name Kradam incites anger in some fans. However, Adamofficial recently added a Kradam thread. Petitions and angry words against this ensued. The moderator claims that both RCA and Adam want the thread. The Kradam thread is going to stay. Fans don’t get a vote. Kris’s website soon followed.

It looks like I’m not the only one excited about The Adam-Justin Hawkins collaboration:

Daily Metal
American Idol winner Adam Lambert may not be metal, but he is a cherubic little glam rock angel with an insane vocal range.
http://nonemoreblakk.blogspot.com/2009/10/daily-metal_23.html

Who’d have ever thunk it?! Adam appealing to Metal fans. That’s just too cool.

Adamme: I love it.. my best laugh of the day’ ¦’ ¦ They didn’t really watch the show, did they?

[grin] I SERIOUSLY doubt anyone who reads Daily Metal watches AI!!

Kirsten
October 23, 2009 at 5:13 pm
“exactly. cut the umbilical cord.

It’s not an umbilical cord. It’s an industry event. If Kris gets invited to present at the Grammy’s, would you want Adam to say no if they offered him a slot on that show too? Since Kris has appeared on Leno/Tonight Show and Ellen, should Adam refuse to appear on them in order to cut the umbilical cord? No, that would be daft. Those are shows people go on to promote things. No one musical artist owns them. It’s not like the AMAs are the Adam Lambert Variety Show. None of the As stand for Adam. It’s the American Music Awards and it’s not a surprise if somebody else dropping an album that week might be invited to present on the show.

I think every Idol has presented at the AMAs. Even Taylor. That year so did Kat. And I think Daughtry too.

Next thing I’m going to hear is that because so-and-so sells songs on iTunes, the other one shouldn’t. ”

lol Kirsten. I always enjoy your posts and so wish I know you in person. You’re my hero here and on days when I’m not interested in reading all the posts, I still will try to look out for your posts just to hear your points or awesome info!

the new trend is for songwriters to submit only a verse and a chorus to execs, who will tell them to finish songs that have hit potential.

That quote from songwriter Nina Ossoff may be one of the most disheartening things I’ve read about the future of music.

First, they don’t want a song that has any more new material than 1 verse and 1 chorus. Because evidently those will be repeated over and over. Possibly with new words in another verse.

Just imagine the things they say to the rejected they don’t deem hits.

Sorry but your 1 verse and 1 earworm chorus:

- Don’t sound like everything else on radio.

- Are too original

- Would require actual drummer playing drums

- Might need actual instruments

- Has more than a one octave range

- Won’t autotune sufficiently

- Needs a talented singer

- Doesn’t work for our new 11,14, and 16 year old discoveries

- Lyrics too intricate, hard to lip sync at concerts, and won’t text well.

I just feel bad that the WINNERof AI didn’t get asked to perform. I am a major Adam fan but it just doesn’t seem right that he was asked to perform and not Kris.

While I think it would be totally fitting for the winner of a show as popular as AI to perform on the show, I do not think that winning necessarily entitles someone to things that are not in the contractual agreement. I mean, Kris may still be asked to perform, who knows? That would be great. When he won the show, though, he was awarded certain privileges. Anything beyond those contractual perks is fair game. Again, I’m not saying he shouldn’t perform, just that being asked or not asked really has nothing to do with AI since the show is long over.

2 Idols at Z100 Jingle Ball this year . Jingle Ball queen Jordin Sparks and newcomer Kris Allen.

http://www.shineon-media.com/2009/10/23/sneak-peek-at-z100s-jingle-ball-lineup/

Sneak Peek at Z100′s Jingle Ball Lineup

-It’s already been announced that Taylor Swift will be performing at Z100′s Jingle Ball in NYC on December 11. The full lineup will be announced on Z100 at 4pm on Monday’ ¦however ZVips were lucky and got a text about the lineup early.

Want to know who else is scheduled to perform? The lineup is pretty awesome in our opinion.

(Click inside to see the list of performers’ ¦)

-Taylor Swift
-John Mayer
-Justin Bieber
-The Fray
-Jordin Sparks
-Kris Allen
-Boys Like Girls
-Pitbull
-Owl City
-Jay Sean

Thanks jdanton2. Awesome for Kris.

Kristan: Some of us are just objecting to the view that Kris should be banned from the venue and forced to watch the thing on TV.

I don’t recall anyone suggesting that Kris should be banned from the venue! NGL, if he tries to smuggle in concealed weapons in a misguided attempt to off Adam for stealing his thunder, then that’s a donkey’s arse of a different color entirely! However, they’re buds, so I doubt that would happen.

I would hope his managers would be trying to get him a presenter slot or at least an invite to sit in chair.

Picture this is your mind. Adam does an OTT performance. Given the love the press and the industry have for him, crowd goes wild. Cut to Kris in the audience (but perhaps in a good seat?). Tons of viewers
go “holy sh*t – isn’t that the winner sitting in the audience??”. Not a really good move, but YMMV.

Presenting – the picture can be somewhat the same.

Link to some cute pics of Kris in Miami Dolphins gear — promoting his tailgate concert on Sunday. LOL at the photo of him wearing a helmet that looks to be about 2 sizes too big for him

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/kris-allen-ready-for-a-dolphins-weekend-212503/

Tracklisting for Glee: The Music Volume 2

…they are both, in very different but very real ways, quite charismatic…

Unfortunately, the only time Kris approaches charismatic is when he appears with Adam. I am appalled that their official websites want to keep the Kradam meme going. Other than their friendship, which I think is wonderful, they could not be any different in terms of their approach to music and musical interpretation, let alone their ability to communicate with media. I vote for the cutting of the KRADAM umbilical cord, not the friendship one. AI is over and each one will sink or swim according to his own abilities.

The AMA’s do not always include the AI Winner — even as a presenter. And the only people who performed on the AMA show in their Idol year were Ruben and Clay (2003) and Fantasia (2004);

David Cook performed a mini-concert on the 2008 AMA Red Carpet Live! preshow. But ABC is not broadcasting the preshow this year because it had low ratings in 2008. The 2009 AMA Red Carpet Live! is going to be a typical interview/celebrity arrival show, and Adam is scheduled to be in a feature interview.

Many Idol alum have been on the show but this is what I found for Idol alum appearances on the AMA’s in their Idol year.

2003 – Ruben Studdard and Clay performed
2004 – Fantasia performed
2005 – Carrie Underwood – not on show
2006 – Taylor – not on show
2007 – Jordin Sparks – not on show
2008 – Cook and Archie were presenters; Cook performed on AMA Red Carpet Live! pre-show

I may have missed someone because the AMA cast lists are not complete. But the basic point is that winning AI doesn’t automatically mean an invite to the AMAs.

FHS: ITA! You would think that they could listen to a 2:58 song!

Kris in the audience would be wildly clapping. He’s never seemed offended by accolades for Adam. Fans, on the other hand, …

Fans don’t get to decide.

Spring2009: Picture this is your mind. Adam does an OTT performance. Given the love the press and the industry have for him, crowd goes wild. Cut to Kris in the audience (but perhaps in a good seat?). Tons of viewers go ‘holy sh*t ‘“ isn’t that is the winner sitting in the audience??’ . Not a really good move, but YMMV.

Indeed, if that were the scenario, Kris would probably have been better off coming up with a “scheduling conflict” in order to avoid falling short in an inevitable comparison.

9:55 PM ET
Kirk Franklin and Taylor Hicks have the task of presenting Soul/R&B Favorite Band, Duo or Group. And the AMA goes to The Black Eyed Peas, who once again give their thanks from Costa Rica.

From this link:
http://www.digitalhit.com/ama/34.shtml

If the AMA’s want Kris, they’ll ask Kris. They are still inviting performers and presenters. I doubt Kris will perform, because I think they would have included him in the press release where they focus on Idols.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20091023abc02

Not gonna lie, I think Kris would be great to present. I’d like to see him present with Taylor Swift. Jamie Foxx would also be good for Kris to present with since Jamie loved him so much on AI and Jamie’s nominated this year.

Link to the Scorpio song mentioned

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_HJ_68xeoE&feature=fvst

2 Idols at Z100 Jingle Ball this year . Jingle Ball queen Jordin Sparks and newcomer Kris Allen.

http://www.shineon-media.com/2009/10/23/sneak-peek-at-z100s-jingle-ball-lineup/

Oh and my personal fav Owl City!! NOT! I cannot believe they are so popular!

FHS: ITA! You would think that they could listen to a 2:58 song!

This is probably why bands make better music these days or artist that has been around for a while and are giving more influence.

I’d like to see him present with Taylor Swift.

Why Taylor Swift? She’s country and SIX FEET TALL! (actually 5″10″, but with boots or heels…)

I don’t see anybody saying that Adam shouldn’t be allowed to perform.

I actually saw just that when it was first announced that Adam was performing. Someone said out of deference to the winner he should decline. Just as when one Adam fan says something it becomes monolithic, it’s obvious it happens with Kris fans too. :0

I think that Kris will present. Q3, Taylor did present, and if I remember correctly he did, and he looked really handsome.

Has the pre-show performer been announced?

Tracklisting for Glee: The Music Volume 2

Great, Kelly. And could that Crush be Archie’s Crush? It’s the only song without writer or singer.

gemini1
October 23, 2009 at 6:35 pm
I’d like to see him present with Taylor Swift.

Why Taylor Swift? She’s country and SIX FEET TALL!

uh,,,NGL, I didn’t realize she was so tall. She’s cute as a button though, and Kris has got that cute as a button vibe too! Weird, I don’t think of Taylor Swift as country, she’s on our top40 and hac stations all the time.

I wouldn’t mind Kris on the show but I just don’t think the music industry sees Him the same way his fans do. It is obvious that the industry loves Adam and recognizes his voice and performance abilities. He will entertain the audience. I am not sure the industry feels Kris would do the same in such a large venue.

Scorpions: Still Loving You

You’ll see a few different versions from this page … but I’m linking you to this one because … well … you might like to watch scenes from the Lord of the Rings while you listen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pep6nREBpS8

Adam + Metal sounds ok to me. Anything that shows off THE VOICE.

ETA. Don’t think he’d want to take himself too, too, sooo seriously though. Do metal bands ever show a sense of humor?

leome jump also doesnt have one listed as well. But I hope its David’s ‘crush’ its certainly not impossible..

Somebody wanted the link to Still Loving You – Scorpions. ITA it would be a GREAT song for Adam, one of my all time favorites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_HJ_68xeoE

leome jump also doesnt have one listed as well. But I hope its David’s ‘crush’ its certainly not impossible..

Good catch!
High School story, I think Archie’s Crush would fit, so yeah, not impossible.
But is there a source other than wikipedia?

Jamie Foxx would also be good for Kris to present with since Jamie loved him so much on AI and Jamie’s nominated this year.

Especially since Jamie Foxx never bothered to contact Kris after Jamie’s genuine offer to perform together.

I think that Kris will present. Q3, Taylor did present, and if I remember correctly he did, and he looked really handsome.

Has the pre-show performer been announced?

I think Kris can perform in the pre-show, everybody will be happy.

Kris will then get the idol winner treatment as David Cook, Kris fans will be happy. He and Adam will be both in AMA, Kradam fans will be happy. They won’t present at the same time on the same stage, non/anti-Kradam fans will be happy.

Especially since Jamie Foxx never bothered to contact Kris after Jamie’s genuine offer to perform together.

I always thought that was just for the cameras anyway.

“But is there a source other than wikipedia?”

wiki said the source came from tommy2.net so i dunno…

I havent read back all 400+ comments… too many… rofl.. but we do know that LLWD is being sent to christian radio right? per allaccess

saga: Link to the Scorpions song mentioned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_HJ_68xeoE&feature=fvst

Yay saga!! I can’t see YouTube from here, so I hope this is a good version.

Ok guys, some of you were going “Huh?? Adam is liked by the “METAL crowd????” today. So, let me introduce you to one of my absolutely favorite bands of the 80′s. Boys and girls, watch the vid which (I hope like hell) has Klaus Meine in his insane range glory. Tell me Adam voice wouldn’t be AWESOME at this. And yes, the Scorpions were (are?) one of the top metal groups, EVER.

THIS is the song I wanted Adam to do on Rock Week…..

abbysee: I actually saw just that when it was first announced that Adam was performing. Someone said out of deference to the winner he should decline. Just as when one Adam fan says something it becomes monolithic, it’s obvious it happens with Kris fans too. :0

I think that Kris will present. Q3, Taylor did present, and if I remember correctly he did, and he looked really handsome.

Has the pre-show performer been announced?

There hasn’t been any mention of a pre-show performer this year. The AMA Red Carpet Show Live! press release only mentioned interviews and the YouTube promo has nothing about a performer either.

But they continue to add people to the AMA up until very close to the show. That is what all the awards shows do.

ETA: Taylor was on the show but not a presenter — that’s why he’s not on the 2006 AMA’s cast list or credits. I knew I forgot someone. And yes, he looked great. There are a lot of AMA cameos. And the credits don’t make a lot of sense, Clay was credited as a “musical guest” not a “performer” and Ruben didn’t even make the credits.

If the song is nominated (fingers crossed) he will almost definitely perform it on the oscars, unless there was a huge scheduling conflict, and very few people will allow a scheduling conflict to get in the way of performing on the oscars.

Or we might get REAL unlucky and have the song be nominated but performed by someone else. These things happen unfortunately. But in all honesty Im not sure that there’s anyone living who could sing that song like Adam can.

“I havent read back all 400+ comments’ ¦ too many’ ¦ rofl.. but we do know that LLWD is being sent to christian radio right? per allaccess”

frogcooke: I agree with your ROFL. Yes, we do know it was sent for adds on Christian radio, lol.

ok good… because i was NOT going to read back… lol

Adam and Kris ARE different in their talent and skills. That is a good thing, too. That’s why judging them as if they were makes no sense. It is too early even to compare much about sales or popularity numbers. You could compare numbers at a particular point in time, if you had any numbers.

Every industry has its hot restaurants. The “malt shoppes” where people go to see and be seen. There’s always a meal that’s most important to each restaurant. Some spots are the “it” place for breakfast, others lunch, others drinks, others dinner. People go to those places to use alleged social occasions as billboards. Someone’s hot, someone’s scorned, someone’s doing business, who’s that with so-and-so. It’s not personal, it’s business.

For younger music and acting types in Hollywood, Twitter seems to be a virtual version of this. Using an alleged social convention as a billboard. So people tweet something like “@HotSinger Loved the session, man. Song is lava fire fantastic.” Or even “thanks Hot Singer” or “With HotSinger” as a billboard of how they’re working with TheNextGreatThing. There is nothing casual or social about it. It’s micro blog DIY PR. Mostly for those with no other access to PR.

One can only assume that Alisan Porter told her dear friend Adam that she had to keep the tweet pressure on about their song. And he said go for it. He may have even told her to do it. Because while he wants his friend on the album, he doesn’t have final say. And if there’s a better tune, even Adam can’t put friends first. Otherwise, imploring your dear friend in public, like Alisan’s tweets, speaking about feelings and hopes so publicly, and how it will feel if doesn’t happen, seems a little emotionally arm-twisty. YMMV. But would bet Adam told her to do it.

‘I havent read back all 400+ comments’ ¦ too many’ ¦ rofl.. but we do know that LLWD is being sent to christian radio right? per allaccess’ 

frogcooke: I agree with your ROFL. Yes, we do know it was sent for adds on Christian radio, lol.

Why are we ROFL?

Has the pre-show performer been announced?

Cook fan here. Last year appeared to be the first time in the history of the AMA that they telecast the red carpet (pre-show) performer. In fact it was billed as the premiere of the “AMA Red Carpet Live!” I’m not even sure if they’ve had red carpet performers before that.

Wait! Google is my friend.

It looks like the pre-show won’t be telecast this year but only be an online stream:

Dick Clark Productions will also air a live digital pre-show hosted by Julie Moran from the 2009 American Music Awards red carpet available on ABC.com, USTREAM.com and mycokerewards.com and mycoke.com.