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		<title>By: VAlilac</title>
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		<dc:creator>VAlilac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt pic

Listening to Imogen. Her music inspires me so much. Here&#039;s a random pic of me practicing my balance yesterday! http://twitpic.com/mc0fb
about 6 hours ago from Echofon   
  
Went hiking today with the roomie. It was good fun. Felt like huckleberry finn out in the woods climbing across logs over the river ha ha!
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<p>Listening to Imogen. Her music inspires me so much. Here&#8217;s a random pic of me practicing my balance yesterday! <a href="http://twitpic.com/mc0fb" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/mc0fb</a><br />
about 6 hours ago from Echofon   </p>
<p>Went hiking today with the roomie. It was good fun. Felt like huckleberry finn out in the woods climbing across logs over the river ha ha!<br />
about 9 hours ago from Echofon</p>
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		<title>By: VAlilac</title>
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		<dc:creator>VAlilac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>GLEE &#8211; Episode Preview 5 &#8220;Mash-Up&#8221; airing 10/21!<br />
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		<title>By: Grammie Kari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grammie Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, Season 7 will always be up there as my favorite.  However, much can be said about Seasons 4 &amp; 5.  There was talent in most of the TOP 12 line-up.

Season 8 had too many weak singers to be counted up there as a favorite of mine.  All the changes made by AI allowed people (at least three or four) who may not have made it in Season 7.

The strength of Adam and Allison cannot carry the whole season for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, Season 7 will always be up there as my favorite.  However, much can be said about Seasons 4 &amp; 5.  There was talent in most of the TOP 12 line-up.</p>
<p>Season 8 had too many weak singers to be counted up there as a favorite of mine.  All the changes made by AI allowed people (at least three or four) who may not have made it in Season 7.</p>
<p>The strength of Adam and Allison cannot carry the whole season for me.</p>
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		<title>By: JRB5776</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure Ozarka. Does that give them any bargaining power? He still had to sign a contract with Jive. And that was negotiated. So maybe bidding wars help. Don&#039;t really know. I don&#039;t follow AI. Just what I&#039;ve read here and there while following David. I&#039;m sure others here know for certain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure Ozarka. Does that give them any bargaining power? He still had to sign a contract with Jive. And that was negotiated. So maybe bidding wars help. Don&#8217;t really know. I don&#8217;t follow AI. Just what I&#8217;ve read here and there while following David. I&#8217;m sure others here know for certain.</p>
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		<title>By: ozarka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ozarka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, theoretically,  if 19&#039;s offer did suck, I suppose that Archie could have refused to sign the contract.  He would then have had to wait until August before he could entertain offers from other companies.  He could have done this if he knew that Disney or some other entity had an even better offer waiting for him after he is released from the 19 obligation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, theoretically,  if 19&#8242;s offer did suck, I suppose that Archie could have refused to sign the contract.  He would then have had to wait until August before he could entertain offers from other companies.  He could have done this if he knew that Disney or some other entity had an even better offer waiting for him after he is released from the 19 obligation.</p>
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		<title>By: ozarka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ozarka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clarifying, ghl.  What I don&#039;t understand about this whole 19 having the &quot;first right of refusal&quot; business is wouldn&#039;t that essentially mean that they can give an idol the worst and cheapest offer of them all and still that contestant has to accept it?  Perhaps someone can enlighten me on that matter.  Does 19&#039;s offer have to match or exceed what others are offering or can they pretty much offer the bear minimum and still lock in that contestant as an indentured servant for the life of the contract?

ETA:  I guess JRB answered my question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying, ghl.  What I don&#8217;t understand about this whole 19 having the &#8220;first right of refusal&#8221; business is wouldn&#8217;t that essentially mean that they can give an idol the worst and cheapest offer of them all and still that contestant has to accept it?  Perhaps someone can enlighten me on that matter.  Does 19&#8242;s offer have to match or exceed what others are offering or can they pretty much offer the bear minimum and still lock in that contestant as an indentured servant for the life of the contract?</p>
<p>ETA:  I guess JRB answered my question.</p>
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		<title>By: JRB5776</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^ Yes, but 19 had to opt out first. They have first dibs on the Idols. So they wouldn&#039;t have to match any other offers first. 

He did turn down HSM.

I also read at the time that he turned down an offer from Julliard to finish HS there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^ Yes, but 19 had to opt out first. They have first dibs on the Idols. So they wouldn&#8217;t have to match any other offers first. </p>
<p>He did turn down HSM.</p>
<p>I also read at the time that he turned down an offer from Julliard to finish HS there.</p>
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		<title>By: ghl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Archie had an offer from Disney and he turned it down? But my understanding is that 19 has first dibs on offers and he wouldn&#039;t be allowed to accept any other offers if 19 (i.e. Jive) wanted him. Yes?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I heard that offers started coming in after he sang IMAGINE.  To prepare for the case where 19 didn&#039;t make an offer for him, other recording companies competed against each other and made an offer as high as possible.  Disney was rumored to be one of 7 recording companies that made an offer.  Maybe what I said doesn&#039;t exactly transfer what I meant to say.  But David also refused to be part of High School Musical movie at that time.  Rumors were that 19E should give him a matching offer for contract if they wanted him, and talks of much more money and 3 CDs were surfaced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Archie had an offer from Disney and he turned it down? But my understanding is that 19 has first dibs on offers and he wouldn&#8217;t be allowed to accept any other offers if 19 (i.e. Jive) wanted him. Yes?</p></blockquote>
<p>I heard that offers started coming in after he sang IMAGINE.  To prepare for the case where 19 didn&#8217;t make an offer for him, other recording companies competed against each other and made an offer as high as possible.  Disney was rumored to be one of 7 recording companies that made an offer.  Maybe what I said doesn&#8217;t exactly transfer what I meant to say.  But David also refused to be part of High School Musical movie at that time.  Rumors were that 19E should give him a matching offer for contract if they wanted him, and talks of much more money and 3 CDs were surfaced.</p>
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		<title>By: tierbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>tierbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t know how they are going to top that, but I&#039;ll be looking forward to seeing them try.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can&#039;t decide which was the best part.  The speaking part (WTF)? The red suits? The &quot;dancing&quot;?  Awesome.  Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t know how they are going to top that, but I&#8217;ll be looking forward to seeing them try.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t decide which was the best part.  The speaking part (WTF)? The red suits? The &#8220;dancing&#8221;?  Awesome.  Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Truthiness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truthiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;LOL!! Oh, man, if I didn&#039;t have someone telling me what that was from&#039; ¦ I&#039;d assume it was a parody of X-factor. That was so bad&#039; ¦ it was definitely hilarious. Ha!&lt;/blockquote&gt; I know! It&#039;s one for the books. Ahhh. And they survived on that! Weren&#039;t even in the bottom. As I said the night the show aired, who knew Great Britain had as much an appreciation for the lulz as I did. But thank goodness they do. Next week we get another performance. Yay! I don&#039;t know how they are going to top that, but I&#039;ll be looking forward to seeing them try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>LOL!! Oh, man, if I didn&#8217;t have someone telling me what that was from&#8217; ¦ I&#8217;d assume it was a parody of X-factor. That was so bad&#8217; ¦ it was definitely hilarious. Ha!</p></blockquote>
<p> I know! It&#8217;s one for the books. Ahhh. And they survived on that! Weren&#8217;t even in the bottom. As I said the night the show aired, who knew Great Britain had as much an appreciation for the lulz as I did. But thank goodness they do. Next week we get another performance. Yay! I don&#8217;t know how they are going to top that, but I&#8217;ll be looking forward to seeing them try.</p>
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		<title>By: tierbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>tierbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You be the judge  Ooops I laughed again. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL!!  Oh, man, if I didn&#039;t have someone telling me what that was from... I&#039;d assume it was a parody of X-factor.  That was so bad... it was definitely hilarious.  Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You be the judge  Ooops I laughed again. </p></blockquote>
<p>LOL!!  Oh, man, if I didn&#8217;t have someone telling me what that was from&#8230; I&#8217;d assume it was a parody of X-factor.  That was so bad&#8230; it was definitely hilarious.  Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: ozarka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ozarka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t think they are really interested in Disney oriented talent. Rather, in Archie&#039;s case, they thought he would be able to capture young female fans&#039; hearts if he moved on deep in the competition, which would gain more younger idol audience (since Idol viewers&#039; average age is 40).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you are right about AI wanting to expand its viewership to a younger audience.  Why else would they have brought in Miley Cyrus for Idol Gives Back and the Jonas Brothers for the S7 finale (both of which I found unbearable to watch)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t think they are really interested in Disney oriented talent. Rather, in Archie&#8217;s case, they thought he would be able to capture young female fans&#8217; hearts if he moved on deep in the competition, which would gain more younger idol audience (since Idol viewers&#8217; average age is 40).</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you are right about AI wanting to expand its viewership to a younger audience.  Why else would they have brought in Miley Cyrus for Idol Gives Back and the Jonas Brothers for the S7 finale (both of which I found unbearable to watch)?</p>
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		<title>By: Valentin432</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valentin432</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But considering what I bolded above, of your comments, and the fact that Season 7&#039;s ratings were better than Season 6&#039;s, I don&#039;t get it! Talent won out in Season 7. It was an enormously talented season with a genuine, non-circus, purely-based-on-the-music competition.It did pretty well. So, why go for the circus in Season 8? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Season 7 didn&#039;t do that much better than season 6 in the ratings. I don&#039;t think that talent is enough to sustain the high ratings that AI had in his earlier years not with all the competition of hundreds of channels and the internet. 

I think they are trying to make a show more pop oriented and that appeals to younger people with all the guest judges and Ellen, in that sense promoting Adam may be part of the strategy because he has an edgier image and they could need an entertainer like him to spice the image of the show. 

It makes me feel kind of nostalgic because it seems that it takes away from what made the beauty of AI which is to see people like Kelly, Fantasia or Cook go from completely unknown during their auditions to top of the charts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But considering what I bolded above, of your comments, and the fact that Season 7&#8242;s ratings were better than Season 6&#8242;s, I don&#8217;t get it! Talent won out in Season 7. It was an enormously talented season with a genuine, non-circus, purely-based-on-the-music competition.It did pretty well. So, why go for the circus in Season 8? </p></blockquote>
<p>Season 7 didn&#8217;t do that much better than season 6 in the ratings. I don&#8217;t think that talent is enough to sustain the high ratings that AI had in his earlier years not with all the competition of hundreds of channels and the internet. </p>
<p>I think they are trying to make a show more pop oriented and that appeals to younger people with all the guest judges and Ellen, in that sense promoting Adam may be part of the strategy because he has an edgier image and they could need an entertainer like him to spice the image of the show. </p>
<p>It makes me feel kind of nostalgic because it seems that it takes away from what made the beauty of AI which is to see people like Kelly, Fantasia or Cook go from completely unknown during their auditions to top of the charts.</p>
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		<title>By: ozarka</title>
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		<dc:creator>ozarka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Archie refused the offer from Disney last year and his goal is not becoming a Disney star.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Archie had an offer from Disney and he turned it down?  But my understanding is that 19 has first dibs on offers and he wouldn&#039;t be allowed to accept any other offers if 19 (i.e. Jive) wanted him.  Yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Archie refused the offer from Disney last year and his goal is not becoming a Disney star.</p></blockquote>
<p>Archie had an offer from Disney and he turned it down?  But my understanding is that 19 has first dibs on offers and he wouldn&#8217;t be allowed to accept any other offers if 19 (i.e. Jive) wanted him.  Yes?</p>
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		<title>By: GaryJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaryJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t think they are really interested in Disney oriented talent. Rather, in Archie&#039;s case, they thought he would be able to capture young female fans&#039; hearts if he moved on deep in the competition, which would gain more younger idol audience (since Idol viewers&#039; average age is 40).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

On my street, the average Idol viewer&#039;s age is probably 85 (I live in Florida), and they loved Archie on AI7. Some people actually think Archie is an artist who is more believable doing material more suitable for people older than he is, I guess sort of like Josh Groban or someone like that.

I think Archie had captured young girls&#039; hearts long before the AI7 finals, and they were therefore already part of the AI demographic (like they are every year, probably why Coke is a big sponsor).

Archie was one of the most sanitized contestants in AI history, and elderly folks liked him just as much as the tween girls did. That&#039;s why the show was promoting him so vigorously...they thought (correctly) that he would have broad appeal, and he still does, which I think explains the Christmas album.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t think they are really interested in Disney oriented talent. Rather, in Archie&#8217;s case, they thought he would be able to capture young female fans&#8217; hearts if he moved on deep in the competition, which would gain more younger idol audience (since Idol viewers&#8217; average age is 40).</p></blockquote>
<p>On my street, the average Idol viewer&#8217;s age is probably 85 (I live in Florida), and they loved Archie on AI7. Some people actually think Archie is an artist who is more believable doing material more suitable for people older than he is, I guess sort of like Josh Groban or someone like that.</p>
<p>I think Archie had captured young girls&#8217; hearts long before the AI7 finals, and they were therefore already part of the AI demographic (like they are every year, probably why Coke is a big sponsor).</p>
<p>Archie was one of the most sanitized contestants in AI history, and elderly folks liked him just as much as the tween girls did. That&#8217;s why the show was promoting him so vigorously&#8230;they thought (correctly) that he would have broad appeal, and he still does, which I think explains the Christmas album.</p>
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