Idol Headlines for 10/12/09

Don’t know if the Radar Online article is true or not, but it said this happened on Friday and we got two tweets on Saturday that were upbeat (somewhat), so maybe they worked out their misunderstanding. Being a slightly obsessed fan I have to say Drake needs to learn to check the jealousy and trust his man. Adam does not come across as the cheating type, but hey I could be wrong.

On a good note fwiw, Adam was in Teddy’s!

Press release for DA’s xmas album including the 17 tourdates!

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/david-archuleta-spreads-holiday-cheer,994743.shtml

David Archuleta “Christmas from the Heart” tour dates:

11/24 Salt Lake City, UT Abravanel Hall
11/25 Salt Lake City, UT Abravanel Hall
11/27 Ann Arbor, MI Ann Arbor Symphony/Hill Auditorium
11/29 Santa Rosa, CA Wells Fargo Performing Arts Center
11/28 Bakersfield, CA Rabobank Theater
11/30 San Francisco, CA Warfield Theatre
12/2 Anaheim, CA The Grove
12/4 Rexburg, ID Hart Auditorium – BYU University, ID
12/6 Beaver Creek, CO Vilar Performing Arts Center
12/8 Kansas City, MO Midland Theater
12/9 St. Paul, MN Fitzgerald Auditorium
12/11 Waukegan, IL Genesee Theater
12/12 Cleveland, OH Playhouse Square
12/13 Montclair, NJ The Wellmont Theater
12/15 Baltimore, MD Lyric Theater
12/17 Mashantucket, CT MGM Foxwoods Casino
12/18 Stroudsburg, PA The Sherman Theater
12/19 Boston, Ma House of Blues
12/20 Westbury, NY Capitol One Bank Theatre at Westbury

thanks for posting the press release and the tour dates for david frogcooke – maryland is the closest for me, so it’s time to start making preps to see and hear david for christmas!

Not exactly sure that Adam and Drake having a “tiff at Teddys” is news (or even true). But at least Adam can get into Teddys whenever he wants now!

Not sure I really want to know about Drake and Adam’s lovers’ quarrels…in fact, I *know* I don’t want to. When do we get to hear the rest of TFM? Friday? That’s really all I am interested about on the Adam front (and about his first glam single as well!).

Adam’s rumored to be booked for SNL. Hope it’s true
ETA: source http://www.nymichael.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=5885?36b2aa40

According to a report today in mi2n (Music Industry News), Rob Cavalli produced 7 tracks for Adam’s album. Previous reports were 6. So they must have finished another track together before the wrapped up the recording sessions:

He also produced upcoming albums from Uncle Kracker and Meat Loaf, and the first single from American Idol’s Adam Lambert for the movie, 2012, as well as seven tracks on Lambert’s upcoming debut album.

http://www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=123868

Also, LA Times reports that Cavallo’s deal with Warners allows him to continue to take on outside (non-Warners) recording projects.

Not exactly sure that Adam and Drake having a ‘tiff at Teddys’  is news (or even true).

I would like to meet the person that has never had this kind of “tiff”. We all have, some of us more than once – I am sure.
Even if it is true, doesn’t make him any different than million of others out there.

Wow, going back to the discussion about cheesy lyrics … “This Is It” is lighting up the old cheese-o-meter.

Adam’s rumored to be booked for SNL. Hope it’s true

OMG if so. Then again, he was rumored to be touring with GaGa, so I need actual confirmation.

Is Cavallo a good fit for Adam? I don’t count 2012, b/c it was for a soundtrack (not saying it isn’t good, just that it wasn’t specifically written for Adam, as far as I know).

On the Adam and Drake fight sounds like Idle gossip. What really happened’ ¦Adam talked to someone, Drake went for a smoke, Adam went and looked for him’ ¦They left. (oh there was some conversation between the two..ooohhhh scandalous) Where was the fight part in all this? no voices raised, no faces slapped, just someone taking a situation and spinning it into a tabloid headline.

If they really did have a fight it sounds like one of the most boring and civil fights I have ever heard. In the future I want at least someone crying! Now that would be tabloid worthy

moved fr other thread:

Adam and Drake had a little tiff:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/exclusive-adam-lambert-and-boyfriend-out-and-fighting-hollywood

I heard rumor of this yesterday on twitter but I just thought it was idle gossip.

Can someone clarify the ETA on anything Adam – I have become totally confused (not for the first time!)

Is the single for TFM out on the 16th or 20th and will it be available on iTunes?

The video for TFM?
The unnamed single from album?

Where was the fight part in all this?

Drake leaving without Adam and Adam running after him and calling to Drake to wait.

Don’t know if it’s true or not, but that’s the fight part.

I call it a tiff.

In the future I want at least someone crying!

Not until Adam is done with his album, please.

Drake has to realize that Adam’s popularity is part of what sells albums. He’s got to learn how not to be the pissy wife.

(moved fr the other thread)

Glee….glad its online because I wouldn’t watch it instead of my favs. I really, really liked the show at first and now I’m just sort of ho-humming about it…but I do wish it continued success.

What I find an interesting phenomenon is that peeps will purchase the glee songs instead of the original material that is still available and current. Not to say the cast doesn’t have “good” voices, but they rarely match up to the strengths of the original artists. That being said, I’m seeing Glee as a lazy man’s way of catching up on what’s current and don’t really see its audience as being relative. It’s like a Friday Night Lights type of show for me. Gets off with a real bang and then wans as the story lines start to move away from the original premise. But, we’ll have to see.

ETA…corrected because I’ve lost the ability to discern days of the week!

sidewalkstory, that’s the exact link MJ already posted in the headlines above.

Where does radaronline rank in terms of their reliability? I mean, all gossip sites, I guess aren’t to be trusted, but I guess there are certain ones who bullshit and make up stuff more, right?

ETA: Tess, you mean Friday Night Lights? Btw, that show is good again. Season 2 blew chunks, but Season 3 came back strong. I thought Season 1 of FNL is some of the best TV I’ve seen, ever. So good…

Where does radaronline rank in terms of their reliability? I mean, all gossip sites, I guess aren’t to be trusted, but I guess there are certain ones who bullshit and make up stuff more, right?

I’m just glad the paps could not hear what they were saying because I know that it would have distorted.

Not really interested in gossip about Adam or any of the other idols for that matter!

If Rob Cavallo has produced 7 songs for Adam’s album, do you think the album might not be as eclectic as we are expecting?

Drake has to realize that Adam’s popularity is part of what sells albums. He’s got to learn how not to be the pissy wife.

Exactly. If Drake thinks this is bad now, wait until after Adam’s CD is released. Adam’s focus needs to be on his career right now and not having to worry about whether Drake’s feelings are hurt or not by Adam daring to speak to another guy. If Drake is insecure, he shouldn’t be dating someone like Adam who is social and in show business.

Who the heck is NYMichael? people seem to put a lot of stock in what he says.

Is the single for TFM out on the 16th or 20th and will it be available on iTunes?

The video for TFM?
The unnamed single from album?

I’ve only heard Oct 20 as the release date for TFM, and then that the first single would be chosen in the next few weeks. No other word, though I could have missed something (very possible, I had a busy weekend).

If Rob Cavallo has produced 7 songs for Adam’s album, do you think the album might not be as eclectic as we are expecting?

Yeah, I am thinking the same… though didn’t redOne do 6 tracks? All of them probably won’t make the album. I am still not sure about his Cavallo collaboration. He has produced some great records but what the heck happeded with Cook last year?

Adam and Rob seems to like each other which is good I guess.

Not sure I really want to know about Drake and Adam’s lovers’ quarrels’ ¦in fact, I *know* I don’t want to.

Me neither, but I’m resigned to the fact that we’ll be seeing a lot more of this sort of thing, especially if (when!) Adam becomes as big as we want him to be. He’s not the type to seclude or filter himself, either, so there’s likely to be lots of fodder for the media to spin in whatever way makes headlines.

Does anyone know if the AMA announcements are being televised tomorrow, and if so, which network?

Exactly. If Drake thinks this is bad now, wait until after Adam’s CD is released. Adam’s focus needs to be on his career right now and not having to worry about whether Drake’s feelings are hurt or not by Adam daring to speak to another guy. If Drake is insecure, he shouldn’t be dating someone like Adam who is social and in show business.

Tru dat. Drake is gonna need a really thick skin to put up with how crazy things are going to get. And ITA that Adam should be focusing on the career right now. Keep your good friends close (and he seems to have a lot of them, especially from his pre-AI days in LA), but don’t let pettiness get in the way.

Exactly. If Drake thinks this is bad now, wait until after Adam’s CD is released. Adam’s focus needs to be on his career right now and not having to worry about whether Drake’s feelings are hurt or not by Adam daring to speak to another guy. If Drake is insecure, he shouldn’t be dating someone like Adam who is social and in show business.

Of course, we know none of this to be true, so this is all speculation, no? And of course, if it is true, we don’t know Drake’s side of it do we? For all we know (and I know that the majority of you won’t go here) but *gasp* here goes…perhaps it is true and maybe Adam was being an a$$ – it IS possible.

I don’t think it was a big deal, either way.

Reminder:

I don’t want the Adam/Drake stuff to dominate the headlines today. In other words, pages and pages focusing on Drake, the way he dresses, and whether or not he’s good for Adam are subjects that have officially entered the dead horse category. Just a heads up before things escalate.

Radar Online was one of the first papps that engaged in high speed chases after Adam.

1. Gets hits to their site
2. Personally, I would not want to be involved with a guy as popular and in demand as Adam, gotta be hard on ANY significant other int his situation
3. It is none of my damn business!!!!

this is kind of cool:

lambfankathy @adamlambert Worldwide bb, worldwide.!!!.Adam Lambert’s Time for Miracles teaser trailer gets exposure in China 8 minutes ago from web

one of the odder reviews:

http://www.queerty.com/adam-lambert-roland-emmerich-make-sweet-movie-love-together-20091012/

Yeah, I am thinking the same’ ¦ thouhg didn’t redone do 6 tracks? All of them probably won’t make the album. I am still not sure about his Cavallo collaboration. He has produced some great records but what the heck happeded with Cook last year?

Redone did, yes. I think that just means that Cavallo has 7 songs that Adam COULD put on his album and redone has 6 that could end up being on his album. That’s all.

Russian RS picked up Adam’s interview

http://radikal.ru/F/s56.radikal.ru/i152/0910/ae/e24242a5c14a.jpg.html

http://radikal.ru/F/s56.radikal.ru/i151/0910/8e/8f734070f638.jpg.html

http://radikal.ru/F/i026.radikal.ru/0910/66/bf6accab2ab5.jpg.html

http://radikal.ru/F/s45.radikal.ru/i107/0910/e7/e9d93627d17b.jpg.html

ETA: According to site I snitched this from Adam may not have fared well in the English to Russian translation. The translation comes across as quirky.

Yeah, I am thinking the same’ ¦ though didn’t redOne do 6 tracks? All of them probably won’t make the album. I am still not sure about his Cavallo collaboration. He has produced some great records but what the heck happeded with Cook last year?

Well, not sure about the semantics, but didn’t we discuss earlier (especially with 7 being such a high number), that all these tracks may not make the album? Not sure if “produced” means they definitely did. And not sure that everything has been selected yet, since, after all, Kris is still recording, and not yet in the process of formally choosing the final album songs, and he has an earlier due date than Adam.

Also, wrt Cook, I’m guessing the producers (at least to some degree) kinda mix things up based on the artist they’re working with. After all, an Adam album should not really be anything like a Cook album. So it may not be easy to judge based on what we already know.

Take that fwiw.

If Rob Cavallo has produced 7 songs for Adam’s album, do you think the album might not be as eclectic as we are expecting?

I’m wondering if all 7 were for the album. Maybe 2012 is counted in that production number. Meatloaf made a video the other day with the drummer who worked on 6 of Adam’s songs. It seems unlikely that one of Adam’s songs produced by Cavallo would have a separate drummer, unless that is the song that has the strings.

Russian RS picked up Adam’s interview

http://radikal.ru/F/s56.radikal.ru/i152/0910/ae/e24242a5c14a.jpg.html

http://radikal.ru/F/s56.radikal.ru/i151/0910/8e/8f734070f638.jpg.html

http://radikal.ru/F/i026.radikal.ru/0910/66/bf6accab2ab5.jpg.html

http://radikal.ru/F/s45.radikal.ru/i107/0910/e7/e9d93627d17b.jpg.html

cool.

Do we know when Adams drop dead date is? Do we know anything about Adams schedule for the coming weeks other than the thing tomorrow?

ETA: Adam, in an interview, said that he had about 30 songs to record (or something along those lines) and that his album would have 12.

Is Cavallo a good fit for Adam? I don’t count 2012, b/c it was for a soundtrack (not saying it isn’t good, just that it wasn’t specifically written for Adam, as far as I know).

Yes, he is a brilliant, creative and sometimes non-formulaic producer. He knows how to work with someone who does theatrical rock (Meatloaf) and he produced Paramore — which I think in OK, not brilliant production, but contemporary. Cavallo tends towards a large production (wall of sound) approach centered on the fidelity of the total recording as opposed to individual elements — which I think may be a perfect complement to Adam’s big voice. So I am expecting these sessions to have some songs that are reministant of Phil Spector but in a 21st century way. (That is a good thing!)

IMO Cavallo is a better fit for Adam than for David Cook. I still there were a few better producers for David — and wouldn’t be surprised to see him pick a different producer for his next album.

Radar Online was one of the first papps that engaged in high speed chases after Adam.

I think that was TMZ. Are they the same? Adam even mentioned TMZ in an interview.

ETA: Adam, in an interview, said that he had about 30 songs to record (or something along those lines) and that his album would have 12.

Even a deluxe album can’t fit 30 songs… maybe we will get a super duper deluxe album ;p

Cavallo tends towards a large production (wall of sound) approach centered on the fidelity of the total recording as opposed to individual elements ‘” which I think may be a perfect complement to Adam’s big voice.

Gaaaah, THAT’S why I don’t like him! Love, love, love when individual elements like vocals or certain instruments dominates certain parts of the production. I am a less is more girl. OK, not having high hopes then.

Yeah, Adam is front page of AOL music!!!

http://music.aol.com/

If there is ever more substantive evidence of Drake acting pissy or doing anything to hurt Adam just watch . . . Adam’s fans will go after Drake like a pack of wolves.

Not saying that’s a good things, only that it will happen, and it will be vicious. “Ugly tanktop gate” will be nothing compared to that!!

Regardless, I don’t feel bad for Drake; he’s got Adam!! But it’s gonna take balls of steel for any man to date Adam given what’s on the horizon.

Good luck to ‘em, it’s gonna be tough!

Actually Radar & Splash chased him, actually his driver at the time, b4 TMZ did

Even a deluxe album can’t fit 30 songs’ ¦ maybe we will get a super duper deluxe album ;p

Maybe
Or he will do them on his tour.

I was just saying that wrt the discussion on whether or not all the Cavallo songs would make the album.
Im still betting on Adams single being one by Redone or Max Martin. Probably Max Martin, since his tunes are so catchy.

Actually Radar & Splash chased him, actually his driver at the time, b4 TMZ did

I remember that. That was a day or two after the finale.

So Adam’s recordings break down something like this:

Rob Cavallo = 7 songs
RedOne = possibly 6 (I remember that article said he hoped to do six songs with Adam; we don’t know for sure that he actually got to)
Ryan Tedder = 4
Max Martin = at least 1
Greg Wells (who he was back in the studio with yesterday) = at least 1
Linda Perry = at least 1
Dr. Luke/Claude Kelly = at least 1
Kevin Rudolf = they started 1

I think those are all the producers that have been mentioned. I hope they find a way to fit something from everyone on there! That’s just my selfish wish though, cause I’ve been excited about a lot of these collaborations and I want to hear what came of them.

After Greg Wells tweeted yesterday about being blown away by Adam, Rivers Cuomo, who’s the lead singer of Weezer, tweeted “ditto” back at Greg Wells. So I guess he was there? Random!

Did he do one with Sam Sparro too? Or did he just write a song with him?

Greg Wells has to have more than 1… He’s spent a lot of time in the studio with Adam.

Even a deluxe album can’t fit 30 songs’ ¦ maybe we will get a super duper deluxe album ;p

Maybe
Or he will do them on his tour.

I love the tour idea!!

And we can’t forget Greg_Wells adding to the album. I still think it will be an eclectic mix.

Who the heck is NYMichael? people seem to put a lot of stock in what he says.

Same question here. Anyone?

Greg Wells has to have more than 1′ ¦ He’s spent a lot of time in the studio with Adam.

Ya thats what I was wondering too.

Who the heck is NYMichael? people seem to put a lot of stock in what he says.

Someone on ontd_ai said that he was Michael Bolanos

http://twitter.com/michaelbolanos
Congratulations @AdamLambert & Lane & the team! http://bit.ly/V8nrI — Black Friday will have a new polish Have a great weekend! (this tweet was posted on Oct 2)
http://www.michaelbolanos.com/

NYMichael:

http://www.michaelbolanos.com/

After Greg Wells tweeted yesterday about being blown away by Adam, Rivers Cuomo, who’s the lead singer of Weezer, tweeted ‘ditto’  back at Greg Wells.

The way he posted made me laugh, must be a twitter newby

# How do you retweet? do you have to cut and paste?

# greg_wells Mr. Lambert blew my mind today on the microphone.

# Ditto. @greg_wells

ETA: I’m confused, Ignore me

And apparently he is not a fan of Weezer.

wait what who?

Tiny crumb of Matt music news:

@dannyboythepipe:
Finishing @immattgiraud mix.. Sounding killer. Got @alisonforrealzz mix back. Sounds huge! Writing with kara Dioguardi Tom! Crazy idol month!9:09 PM Oct 8th from Tweetie

@_pinklove_:
# @dannyboythepipe You’re killin’ me, boy…i need to hear that killer mix!!12:13 AM Oct 9th from web

@dannyboythepipe:
@_pinklove_ no patience you peeps! Gotta wait till it’s on the full record. Could be next year. Sowwy!1:01 AM Oct 11th from Tweetie in reply to _pinklove_

I remember hearing Adam say that about 12 songs would be on his album. What if there are more than 12 excellent tracks available? (I know some of you are hoping for at least 2-3, but I’m not so picky, I’m expecting to like most of ‘em regardless).

What is the largest number of tracks they would put on the album? Is the total number determined mostly by quality? Some sort of “commonly used number in the industry? The number you can fit on a CD?

I wish that there could be 20 plus songs, which can’t possibly happen, but why limit it to 12 if you have enough quality songs to go higher?

I don’t know much about the music industry, so I’m interested in hearing the opinions of those who know what factors are considered when selecting which tracks and how many tracks are included on an album.

Do we know when Adams drop dead date is? Do we know anything about Adams schedule for the coming weeks other than the thing tomorrow?

ETA: Adam, in an interview, said that he had about 30 songs to record (or something along those lines) and that his album would have 12.

The only other announced appearance is 11/24/09 ABC GMA Fall Concert. He will also certainly be at the “2012″ premier.

Since they have announce that they will release a deluxe Adam album (TDB Delux), they will almost certainly release more than 12 songs. No one has defined what the deluxe album will be — and my bet is that RCA/19R haven’t decided yet. It could be:

1. A version with a few extra tracks — like Jive released for Jordin and Archie, or

2. A “premium” 2-disc set with some extra tracks, music video, making of the album and/or music video videos, and some dance mixes.

My bet is that it will be a “premium” album because if RCA doesn’t release the dance mixes, people are going to make them anyway. And it is all about the $$$.

It looks to me like Adam must be close to done recording his 30 songs. He said he was halfway done the album when the tour ended. Here is my talley of recorded songs so far:

Before or during tour:
RedOne – 6 tracks
Max Martin – 1 track
Note: The must be some pre-tour and during tour sessions we didn’t hear about.

Since Adam made the “album is half-done” statement he’s recorded at least 14 tracks:
Greg Wells – 2+ tracks (at least 2 recording sessions)
Linda Perry – 1+ tracks
Ryan Tedder – 4 tracks
Claude Kelly/Dr. Luke – 2+ tracks
Rob Cavallo – 7 tracks

And he still have some more time to record — probably until 10/22.

I love Rivers Cuomo (I love Weezer, or WEEEEEEZER! ). I am waaaay too excited about this album. I def want some RedOne. I think that is totally up Adam’s alley, but I don’t want a GaGa production. Max Martin is cool, too. I don’t know which songs Rob Cavallo produced for Cook (all of them?), so I can’t say on that front (but I like a lot of Cook’s album). Anyway, Adam’s album could be very diverse; I really hope so (Adam says it will be, anyway). I have a feeling Tedder’s song will be like Come Home, and that is my favorite non-Idol song that Adam sang.

That picture of Adam on AOL (so cool) homepage is from Idol, right? USE CURRENT PICS, people. I know, I’m shallow.

@dannyboythepipe:
Finishing @immattgiraud mix.. Sounding killer. Got @alisonforrealzz mix back. Sounds huge! Writing with kara Dioguardi Tom! Crazy idol month!9:09 PM Oct 8th from Tweetie

Matt’s recording? Was he signed?

Or he will do them on his tour.

How can he do songs he did not pay for? Songs not used are not paid for, they are just submissions.

Kris on the radio from Cincinnatii today – Listen live at
http://www.wkrq.com/

from WKRQ
Q-102 — Catch interview with Amer. Idol Kris Allen Mon. 3:10PM. Brian & Laura
5:10 PM Oct 9th from web

LLWD is on the WKRQ playlist.

This is currently blowing up on twitter with excitement that Ryan Seacrest just pimped Adam and MJ on his radio show at the same time:

kjavsu Ryan seacrest just pimped MJ and Adam Lambert in the same breath. Pretty cool. 11 minutes ago from txt

I’m still confused, who’s not a fan of Weezer? Rivers is their lead singer…?

With all the Idol albums, different retailers offer different bonus tracks (Target, iTunes, etc.). That’s how they get you to buy multiple copies. It won’t be any different this year.

Rivers tweeted this yesterday:

Weezer is the cockroach of the music world.
about 9 hours ago from web

Who knows…maybe he meant when the world ends, they’ll still be kicking around, because we all know that cockroaches are probably the only creatures that will survive the apocalypse.

The only other announced appearance is 11/24/09 ABC GMA Fall Concert. He will also certainly be at the ’2012′ ³ premier.

Since they have announce that they will release a deluxe Adam album (TDB Delux), they will almost certainly release more than 12 songs. No one has defined what the deluxe album will be ‘” and my bet is that RCA/19R haven’t decided yet. It could be:

1. A version with a few extra tracks ‘” like Jive released for Jordin and Archie, or

2. A ‘premium’  2-disc set with some extra tracks, music video, making of the album and/or music video videos, and some dance mixes.

My bet is that it will be a ‘premium’  album because if RCA doesn’t release the dance mixes, people are going to make them anyway. And it is all about the $$$.

It looks to me like Adam must be close to done recording his 30 songs. He said he was halfway done the album when the tour ended. Here is my talley of recorded songs so far:

Before or during tour:
RedOne ‘“ 6 tracks
Max Martin ‘“ 1 track
Note: The must be some pre-tour and during tour sessions we didn’t hear about.

Since Adam made the ‘album is half-done’  statement he’s recorded at least 14 tracks:
Greg Wells ‘“ 2+ tracks (at least 2 recording sessions)
Linda Perry ‘“ 1+ tracks
Ryan Tedder/Dr. Luke ‘“ 4 tracks
Rob Cavallo ‘“ 7 tracks

And he still have some more time to record ‘” probably until 10/22.

Ooh 2012 premiere. I forgot about that, what day would that be? Begininning of November?
It does look like Adams almost done too doesnt it? So I guess this Adam storm should be starting soon? It seems like a premium album would be smart, Adam said he liked those dance mixes XD.
Thanks Q3 for answering my question. And so indepth too :’)

Rivers Cuomo ‘“
https://twitter.com/RiversCuomo

random Adam connection

I thought he was the lead singer of Weezer?

There’s no news yet of Matt being signed, but he recorded two songs about a week ago with two different songwriters. I heard that he used John Mayer’s bass player on the one above. This stuff has to cost some real money, and I am wondering who is paying for it.

But at least Adam can get into Teddys whenever he wants now!

Wasn’t Teddys the place Adam referenced at the YHA event?

e.g. “And the best part about this award is now I can get into Teddys when I couldn’t before.” Or something like that . . .

I’m sure when Adam talks about wanting to be a “rawk star” this is the type of lifestye he envisions.

Meeting cool people, wearing cool clothes, and getting into cool clubs!! Yay! What a rebel. Haha.

Back to my very non “rawk star” world of work.

Rivers tweeted this yesterday:

Weezer is the cockroach of the music world.
about 9 hours ago from web

Who knows’ ¦maybe he meant when the world ends, they’ll still be kicking around, because we all know that cockroaches are probably the only creatures that will survive the apocalypse.

Oh yeah, that’s definitely what he meant. They have a new album coming out soon. They’ve been around a long time!!

How can he do songs he did not pay for? Songs not used are not paid for, they are just submissions.

OH. Haha. I thought that if he recorded them that they were his. Nevermind. Carry on

Rly luved Eli Stone…too bad it didn’t make it. Was always hard to believe that the lead was married to Angelina. Couldn’t make the connection.

#

Rivers Cuomo ‘“
https://twitter.com/RiversCuomo

random Adam connection

I thought he was the lead singer of Weezer?

That was my confusion. I was reading one thing and my mind was telling me something else. Don’t ask me why I thought this guy was the lead singer of Uncle Kracker..
#

Q3, why did you leave Sam Sparro out of your list?

That was my confusion. I was reading one thing and my mind was telling me something else. Don’t ask me why I thought this guy was the lead singer of Uncle Kracker..
#

Haha dont worry about it
I barely know who Weezer is, actually I only know about it from Allisons tweets.

So is Time for Miracles the number 1 snippet in America yet?

Meeting cool people, wearing cool clothes, and getting into cool clubs!! Yay! What a rebel. Haha.

lol

Q3: Rob Cavalli produced 7 tracks for Adam’s album.

Hee. If we’re talking Roberto Cavalli, I’m a little nervous about who let him loose in a recording studio. Great designer and he’d do a great job costuming the Fierce Glam One, but producing songs? Not so much.

http://www.robertocavalli.com/en/home.do

Kidding! I knew you meant Cavallo, but you just reminded me about Cavalli.

What is the largest number of tracks they would put on the album? Is the total number determined mostly by quality? Some sort of ‘commonly used number in the industry? The number you can fit on a CD?

12 is a pretty standard number of tracks for most albums. Just a convention, as far as I know. Each song would average 3-5 min.

Rivers isn’t a fan of Weezer….strange huh. He has said that the band is finished, caput, etc. We’ll see.

Wow! Allison just passed Kris on Amazon.

Adam #8
Allison #138
Kris #151

Wow! Allison just passed Kris on Amazon.

Adam #8
Allison #138
Kris #151

I like ‘Friday’! well, who doesn’t?

Stats update for the curious

Itunes: Live Like We’re Dying Top 200 Songs Chart Rank #111

Amazon: Adam Lambert New Release 2009 Music Sales Rank #8
Amazon: Allison Iraheta New Release 2009 Music Sales Rank #138
Amazon: Kris Allen New Release 2009 Music Sales Rank #151

AOL: Time For Miracles promo clip video views 430,851

Hee. If we’re talking Roberto Cavalli, I’m a little nervous about who let him loose in a recording studio. Great designer and he’d do a great job costuming the Fierce Glam One, but producing songs? Not so much.

http://www.robertocavalli.com/en/home.do

Haha. I saw the Cavalli store in Paris and freaked out cause that suit that Adam wore on finale night was Cavalli. It was a pretty awesome store. All gold and black and the door handles were snakes. I got a bunch of pictures of it too
I gtg! Talk to you all later

I’m sure when Adam talks about wanting to be a ‘rawk star’  this is the type of lifestye he envisions.

I think it may turn out to be a bit less “cool” over time. But I’m certain he’s enjoying it now. And yes, he specifically mentioned being about to get into Teddy’s at the YHAs.

Official press release for the AMA announcements:

http://www.abcmedianet.com/web/dnr/dispDNR.aspx?id=100709_01

“Announcements Begin (Promptly): 9:30 AM”

(reminder for tomorrow)

LOL…Jim Cantiello just keeps proving his major love for Kris.

Last night Kris tweet:

KrisAllen4Real Recording in the same studio that prince recorded purple rain! I’m trying to channel it.
about 9 hours ago from Echofon

Jim Tweet:

jambajim Today’s Tune: Prince & The Revolution – The Beautiful Ones http://tinyurl.com/yg549ar Sending good studio vibes.
about 5 hours ago from web

He is such a fanboy.

ETA: His best friend from Arkansas tweeted him about it also:

charlesbrowder @KrisAllen4Real why channel it, when you could just cover it? about 7 hours ago from Echofon in reply to KrisAllen4Real

HotHotHot
October 12, 2009 at 11:50 am
Wow! Allison just passed Kris on Amazon.

Adam #8
Allison #138
Kris #151

Is there any good way to evaluate the size of Allison’s fanbase? She has fewer twitter followers than Adam, Kris, Danny, Matt and Anoop and way fewer Youtube hits than Adam and Kris. Does Allison Iraheta Official list her registered users?

This is so funny:

Theburg yes! about to start work on the South african Adam Lambert site…Man Crush alert! 4 minutes ago from web

The AMAs will be on ABC so if any show will have snippets of the nominee announcements it will be GMA, assuming the announcements are made super early.

And I’d like to see Adam be more protective of those precious vocal chords by dating a non-smoker.

assuming the announcements are made super early.

I just posted the press release a few posts above. 9:30am is not super early. 12:30 Eastern is not early at all.

I didn’t know people toured with Christmas albums?

EW.com has had a “vote once” poll about TfM up since 10/9/09. Results are overwhelmingly positive! I guss a lot of people like “cheesey” songs:

Adam Lambert’s ‘Time for Miracles’ snippet:

Sounds a-MAH-zing 83%
Is just aiight for me, dawg 12%
Is yet another sign of the apocalypse 5%

There are similar polls all over the web and on twitter showing the same thing — people really like TfM.

assuming the announcements are made super early.

I just posted the press release a few posts above. 9:30am is not super early. 12:30 Eastern is not early at all.

They won’t be cutting into the soaps to make any annoucements on TV. However it will be on ustream. Widget to be made available later.

ETA The actual show will ustream, not the awards annoucement.

jambajim Today’s Tune: Prince & The Revolution ‘“ The Beautiful Ones http://tinyurl.com/yg549ar Sending good studio vibes.
about 5 hours ago from web

Better not let Prince’s people see that download link, he’s a bitch about protecting his music.

Hee. If we’re talking Roberto Cavalli, I’m a little nervous about who let him loose in a recording studio. Great designer and he’d do a great job costuming the Fierce Glam One, but producing songs? Not so much.

Tee-hee! But be kind — it’s still early for me and I worked all night last night! Isn’t this supposed to be a holiday weekend!?!

kjavsu Ryan seacrest just pimped MJ and Adam Lambert in the same breath. Pretty cool. 11 minutes ago from txt

COOL <3

There are similar polls all over the web and on twitter showing the same thing ‘” people really like TfM.

Those polls are always skewed. Adam fans vote over and over. We even had Sue Brody here encouraging us to do that.

charlesbrowder @KrisAllen4Real why channel it, when you could just cover it?

Friends will always keep you grounded – but sometimes you want to tell them to shut the hell up.

They won’t be cutting into the soaps to make any annoucements on TV. However it will be on ustream. Widget to be made available later.

Do they even make a separate clip on TV? I though it was just on the radio, and the news and entertainment shows later.

Squirrely
October 12, 2009 at 12:12 pm
charlesbrowder @KrisAllen4Real why channel it, when you could just cover it?

Friends will always keep you grounded ‘“ but sometimes you want to tell them to shut the hell up.

That’s exactly what I thought when I first read it, but maybe that’s the kind of relationship they have. Didn’t need to tweet it though.

Where is Kris’ fanbase? I know that some have stopped coming here because they believe this site is focused on another idol (though I personally think MJ is more than fair with her postings and she can’t control who posts where) but they don’t seem to be a force on other sites as well.

I realize that numbers aren’t everything and don’t always tell the true story but Online buzz is somewhat created by fans being over enthusiastic about their fav and making sure his/her name is being kept in the spot light.

I don’t see many blogs that focus on Kris, I don’t see a lot of fans buying his material to keep his name on top, I don’t hear about a lot of twitter traffic focused on Kris. His grass roots campaign, on line at least, doesn’t seem to be taking off. And, I haven’t read much press or seen much visual from his home state letting everyone know his single is out. Maybe it is “way to early” in the process and he will get the attention he deserves…but right now, for me, everything seems way to quiet and laid back. Someone convince me I am wrong…because I like Kris and I don’t want him getting the short end of the stick.

kjavsu Ryan seacrest just pimped MJ and Adam Lambert in the same breath. Pretty cool. 11 minutes ago from txt

Dueling snippets?

ETA: I assume this was a top 40 mention – that’s pretty awesome.

Q3
October 12, 2009 at 12:08 pm

EW.com has had a ‘vote once’  poll about TfM up since 10/9/09. Results are overwhelmingly positive! I guss a lot of people like ‘cheesey’  songs:

Adam Lambert’s ‘Time for Miracles’ snippet:

Sounds a-MAH-zing 83%
Is just aiight for me, dawg 12%
Is yet another sign of the apocalypse 5%

There are similar polls all over the web and on twitter showing the same thing ‘” people really like TfM.

Doesn’t surprise me in the least……(Takes out handkerchief, wipes sweat from forehead, takes a deep breath of relief)

charlesbrowder @KrisAllen4Real why channel it, when you could just cover it?

Friends will always keep you grounded ‘“ but sometimes you want to tell them to shut the hell up.

I know – when I read that tweet, I actually thought it was kind of a cruel jab at Kris. Maybe I’m taking it too sensitively, but after Kris came back last night with the whole “people are saying my tweets don’t sound excited enough” thing, I felt bad

God, mix104.1 lurrrves Kris (playing Heartless RIGHT NOW for the 1,000,000x time). Which is fine except WHY HAVEN’T THEY ADDED LLWD yet? It’s not an add for HAC? Not till tomorrow? What?

Rivers Cuomo is snarky.

Yes, TFM is getting very good reviews and generating a lot of excitement. However, Brian Mansfield tweeted me that he wouldn’t comment on it till he heard the whole thing.

I want to buy Adam’s deluxe/premium/super-sonic album. Maybe he could remix all of the songs. Hee hee. And I am canceling my amazon order if it turns out that the other stores (not counting iTunes; I’m pre-ordering that) have more deluxe versions (or whatever; I mean, one with more tracks). I just did it to boost Adam’s pre-sales (and b/c I often buy from amazon, and want a CD as well as a download).

Buddy TV’s American Idol poll: http://www.buddytv.com/articles/american-idol/adam-lamberts-2012-song-gooseb-31806.aspx?pollid=400000666&answer=400002302#poll400000666 (95 percent in favor of song)

ETA: I’m an idiot. I though Seacrest meant our mj, not Michael Jackson. GAH.

I like ‘Friday’! well, who doesn’t?

I wish I liked Alison’s “Friday” but the producer eliminated everything unique about Alisons voice and it just sounds like any generic pop out there. I was very disappointed because I like her best next to Adam.

quirrely
October 12, 2009 at 12:14 pm

kjavsu Ryan seacrest just pimped MJ and Adam Lambert in the same breath. Pretty cool. 11 minutes ago from txt

Dueling snippets?

ETA: I assume this was a top 40 mention ‘“ that’s pretty awesome.

Well to be fair as of midnight last night (or this morning, never know which way to go with that) Michael Jackson “This is it” has a full version of the song now.

I barely know who Weezer is, actually I only know about it from Allisons tweets.

This makes me die a little inside. Weezer was, like formative music for me growing up. Say it Ain’t So, Buddy Holly, My Name is Jonas, Undone – The Sweater Song… man these songs are sooo good. Just saw them on tour recently, and River is hyper as ever, and the audience, thousands of teeny boppers to 20-somethings sang back all the big hits to them. Say it Ain’t So is a guitar hero/rock band staple, so I think the kids know Weezer well. And their last single Troublemaker got moderate play on the radio. Pork and Beans got a lot of internet buzz. I think they’re still quite relevant, and their upcoming album is anticipated.

Tess
October 12, 2009 at 11:46 am
Rivers isn’t a fan of Weezer’ ¦.strange huh. He has said that the band is finished, caput, etc. We’ll see.

WHAT?! When was this? They’re coming out with their new album soon, and still touring, last I checked. I don’t think they are finished. Rivers is a strange guy. I don’t think the cockroach comment meant the band is finished…

charlesbrowder @KrisAllen4Real why channel it, when you could just cover it?

Friends will always keep you grounded ‘“ but sometimes you want to tell them to shut the hell up.

Seems to me that the guy always start to be interesting.. like when he kind of started the rumor that Katy was pregnant.
Agree with people that he should just shut up

Seems to me that Kris will be a low riser (I hope). Nonetheless he’s getting an average of 500 new followers each day since the idol tour ended last Sept 15. Not bad at all

For Adam, I’m simply expecting a 12-track album, with MAYBE 3 bonus tracks. Maybe with additional extras like a photo booklet or a behind the scenes short video. There’s no way that every song Adam has recorded is great. That just doesn’t happen in the music business. Even 15 songs is pushing it. Maybe I’ll be wrong and there won’t be a lot of “filler” on Adam’s album — I hope this is the case. But there is a reason double albums are extremely rare and acts usually have to be established before they release things like albums consisting of tracks that didn’t make the album and alternate versions of songs that did make the cut. RCA/19 should focus on simply putting out a really strong, tight debut album that will establish Adam — all the fancy extra stuff — IMO anyway — can wait.

Squirrely
October 12, 2009 at 12:06 pm
I didn’t know people toured with Christmas albums?

Seriously…Clay has made a career out of these concerts.

For Adam, I’m simply expecting a 12-track album, with MAYBE 3 bonus tracks. Maybe with additional extras like a photo booklet or a behind the scenes short video

ITA. This is what iTunes does with its library issues now (like Muse, Pearl Jam, etc.). They also do it with the deluxe ones (2 extra tracks, a video, or the like). These usually sell better, at least initially (examples include Kelly and Daughtry’s albums, both of which I bought).

kjavsu Ryan seacrest just pimped MJ and Adam Lambert in the same breath. Pretty cool. 11 minutes ago from txt

Awww! Kris and Adam both have fanboys.

Kris has Jim C. and Adam has Ryan Seacrest!
Sweet!

Where is Kris’ fanbase? I know that some have stopped coming here because they believe this site is focused on another idol (though I personally think MJ is more than fair with her postings and she can’t control who posts where) but they don’t seem to be a force on other sites as well.

I agree that this site is great for sharing info on everyone, and I love it.

As for Kris, well, jmo, but even on the show he never had the excitement that Adam (or even Gokey) was able to generate. It goes back to his whole vibe, which is very much “fly under the radar”, “low key”, however you want to describe it. It kinda just IS the way he is (naturally) which invites itself to much less attention, scrutiny, excitement, fixation (obsession?) etc compared to certain other idols (that are mentioned quite often on this site).

I don’t think you’re ever really going to make Kris controversial or dynamic to the extent that some other idols are, and that if you tried to make him that, he’d lose who he was to begin with.

I know controversy doesn’t COMPLETELY equate to popularity – but, in the broader media sense, it kinda sorta does. It creates some excitement around which both very enthusiastic fans and detractors can gather. Kris is a nice guy, a talented guy, but for me (for you) he’s always just kinda “there”.

lurksalot
October 12, 2009 at 12:23 pm

Squirrely
October 12, 2009 at 12:06 pm
I didn’t know people toured with Christmas albums?

Seriously’ ¦Clay has made a career out of these concerts.

sidewalkstory: Q3, why did you leave Sam Sparro out of your list?

I left out all the co-writers and all the people who worked with Adam but who we never heard did a recording session because I was trying to count recorded songs. I never saw anything about that happened with Sam Sparro but I love “Black & Gold” so much I hope he wrote/co-wrote something with Adam.

Here is what I know about some of the other collaborators — and I could be missing a lot:

Songwriters whose songs were recorded:
Kara DioGuardi “Strut”, Ferras (maybe with Alisan Porter), Aimee Mayo and Chris Lindsey (produced by Ryan Tedder)

Status unknown:
Jarvis Church ‘“ co-wrote 4 songs with Adam (CTV.com) no word on if they were recorded
Sam Sparro – writting session
Kevin Rudolf – reported by Kevin as unfinished song
David Hodges – recording session pre-tour
Jim Jonsin – collaborated but details unknown (produced Pitbull, Flo Rida, Beyonce, Lil Wayne, etc. etc.)
Lauren Christy and “The Matrix’ 

Tried to work with Adam but no word if anything came of it: Desmond Child, The Sophomores/Ross Golan, Ely Rise, The Writing Camp, John Fields and others.

WHAT?! When was this? They’re coming out with their new album soon, and still touring, last I checked.

Wow…news to me. There was a really big deal on the radio here (back in the days when I drove to work) about all the negative things Rivers said about Weezer and how he was going to to have the band stop recording and he was tired of the sound and that he couldn’t understand why the public liked such pablum, etc. etc.

Now, I know the guy is strange but he says the same thing time and again in interviews. Either he is the “best” at negative promo that really hypes his band and sound and does it on purpose (yeh, he probably is that smart) or he really wants out but has a contract to fulfill. Like I said…we’ll see.

Maybe Adam could join David on his Christmas tour.

(Looking for list of fake Adam christmas songs from a couple of weeks ago…)

Whew, man, I need to recaffeinate or something. Was up way too late and up again way too early!

But figured I’d extend my concert giddy for another day since I get to re-up on it tomorrow. I liked David in black so I’m sticking a pic over here of him. I didn’t take any, I can’t multitask. Plus the camera nazis came and told me not to use flash before I even took a pic… I think I took the fall for someone

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q361/FoolsApril64/charlo10_clc1.jpg

I don’t see many blogs that focus on Kris, I don’t see a lot of fans buying his material to keep his name on top, I don’t hear about a lot of twitter traffic focused on Kris. His grass roots campaign, on line at least, doesn’t seem to be taking off. And, I haven’t read much press or seen much visual from his home state letting everyone know his single is out. Maybe it is ‘way to early’  in the process and he will get the attention he deserves’ ¦but right now, for me, everything seems way to quiet and laid back. Someone convince me I am wrong’ ¦because I like Kris and I don’t want him getting the short end of the stick.

There isn’t anyway to tell until his promo starts or his song picks up. I think one of three scenarios are going on:

1. He has a lot of fans but a bigger chunk of them are more casual. They don’t go online looking for news. If that is the case, then these people will not buy anything until they know about it because they hear it on the radio or see him on TV, or see mention of his stuff in the press. There is precedent for this in Idol-land… Carrie Underwood and Jordin Sparks had the least online buzz of their seasons, but sold the most in the initial release weeks (and went on to be quite successful from there).

2. He does not have that many fans, period, compared to Adam. It is possible that a lot of people voted for him because he was not Adam, or that people really liked him at the time but forgot about him, etc. there is precedent for this in Idol-land too, Rueben Studdard had a less passionate online fanbase and went on to be outsold by Clay.

3. His fans HAVE heard about the song and don’t like it.

Because almost everything that has happened with his single would only be widely known to his hardcore fans (they haven’t even sent out a myspace blast, right?) It’s hard to tell what is really going on. And because the relationship between online buzz and real world buzz is inconsistent, it is even harder to judge. Time will tell, I think.

Songwriters whose songs were recorded:
Kara DioGuardi ‘Strut’ , Ferras (maybe with Alisan Porter), Aimee Mayo and Chris Lindsey (produced by Ryan Tedder)

Still crossing my fingers for AIMEE.

For me, a rawk star going to the cool places with the cool people is not being a rebel, but conforming. To reject all of that would be showing a rebel side.

On Allison passing Kris, keep in mind he has had iTunes and Amazon pre-orders up 3 or 4 months, and she has had nothing out there until now. Nothing will really be known about sales until the albums debut and we see what has happened over time. She is on the first rush of fan-buying, as Adam recently was. Keep in mind, I like Kris and Allison both and voted for them both at different times.

Remember when people thought that Kris was behind Adam in the recording process and thought he might not make the deadline and that the release date would have to be pushed back? So much for that…

KrisAllen4Real

#We are almost done with the album, or at least my part. Got a couple more songs to finish and we will be good. Really exciting stuff!about 11 hours ago from Echofon

And this has to have been very cool for him…

#Recording in the same studio that prince recorded purple rain! I’m trying to channel it.about 10 hours ago from Echofon

Question though – do the artists usually get invited to sit in on the mixing process and all the other stuff that goes on between finishing up with the recording and having the album ready for release?

tiger92: Awww! Kris and Adam both have fanboys.
Kris has Jim C. and Adam has Ryan Seacrest!
Sweet!

And Alli has a bunch of fanboys!! Maybe the most of the three — although they were mostly hoping for an Alli Rock single.

But Adam rules the fangirl list!

Some Jim tweets for ADAM:

Burgendy-braised beef stew in a bread bowl: #timeformiracles IN MY MOUTH!!!!

Burgendy-braised beef stew in a bread bowl at the MTV cafeteria today. #timeformiracles TRUTH.14 minutes ago from UberTwitter

Just found out that 2 of my co-workers saw 2012 and neither of them stayed for the credits to hear @adamlambert’s song. I HATE THEM SO HARD.about 2 hours ago from UberTwitter

charlesbrowder @KrisAllen4Real why channel it, when you could just cover it?

Seems to me that the guy always start to be interesting.. like when he kind of started the rumor that Katy was pregnant.
Agree with people that he should just shut up

Isn’t he Kris’s best friend? He sat in the luxury box with Kris’s parents. Can’t believe he would say that about Katy, even if it turned out to be true (shouldn’t be up to him). He did sound kinda obnoxious when he was tweeting at one of the concerts. He sure isn’t laid back like Kris.

girlygirl: Question though ‘“ do the artists usually get invited to sit in on the mixing process and all the other stuff that goes on between finishing up with the recording and having the album ready for release?

Depends on the producer-artist relationship. But I think Kris may be too busy to hang around the studio. And I can’t imagine that he gets much/any input in the production based on what I have read about Idol albums.

But Adam rules the fangirl list!

Yes he does!

So no Adam sighting at Cassidy’s show, bummer I was hoping he would go.

Just found out that 2 of my co-workers saw 2012 and neither of them stayed for the credits to hear @adamlambert’s song. I HATE THEM SO HARD.about 2 hours ago from UberTwitter

Way to get in a good dig at Adam.

Question though ‘“ do the artists usually get invited to sit in on the mixing process and all the other stuff that goes on between finishing up with the recording and having the album ready for release?

You would hope so…but, if I remember correctly, Archie had never heard Crush after the mixes until he heard it live on Kiss 100 at the New York release. Don’t have any idea if this is typical or not.

charlesbrowder @KrisAllen4Real why channel it, when you could just cover it?

Maybe Kris needs a new best friend who is a smarter tweeter! This isn’t funny at all.

So no Adam sighting at Cassidy’s show, bummer I was hoping he would go.

I never thought Adam would go in the first place. I am one of the few that believe Cassidy may be an ex of Adam. If Drake gets upset when Adam chats someone up, this would just drive Drake crazy.

Way to get in a good dig at Adam.

I’m confused. How is that a dig at Adam? I took it to mean that these 2 co-workers missed an opportunity to hear the whole song (and give Jim C. some scoop). What am I missing?

charlesbrowder @KrisAllen4Real why channel it, when you could just cover it?

I understand kidding around with a good friend but TWEETING it? c’mon – common sense, man.

I know it is kinda sick, but I still to this day get happy whenever reminded of the miserable failures of Blake Lewis. He has to be the one of the most obnoxious contestants ever on the show, and the way his fans trashed Jordin as not relevant, not cool, and a for sure bust was just disgusting.

I’m confused. How is that a dig at Adam? I took it to mean that these 2 co-workers missed an opportunity to hear the whole song (and give Jim C. some scoop). What am I missing?

That’s what I took from it too. Admittedly, I’m tired and my reading comprehension may not be best but…

I’m confused. How is that a dig at Adam? I took it to mean that these 2 co-workers missed an opportunity to hear the whole song (and give Jim C. some scoop). What am I missing?

You have to read between the lines. If two co-workers at MTV didn’t sit through to hear Adam’s song (who apparently weren’t interested in Adam), why would anyone who didn’t know about the song sit through the credits. Why would Cantiello bother to tweet that?

For Adam, I’m simply expecting a 12-track album, with MAYBE 3 bonus tracks. Maybe with additional extras like a photo booklet or a behind the scenes short video

I think RCA has bigger plans for Adam’s deluxe album. And since his Idol iTunes videos sold so well, I can’t imagine that they won’t at least include the music video. We’ll know in about 40 days!

sidewalkstory: I never thought Adam would go in the first place. I am one of the few that believe Cassidy may be an ex of Adam. If Drake gets upset when Adam chats someone up, this would just drive Drake crazy.

No, I don’t think Cassidy is an ex of Adam’s but Cassidy is a very good friend of Cheeks.

I know it is kinda sick, but I still to this day get happy whenever reminded of the miserable failures of Blake Lewis. He has to be the one of the most obnoxious contestants ever on the show, and the way his fans trashed Jordin as not relevant, not cool, and a for sure bust was just disgusting.

I didn’t watch his season, I only watched the finale so I don’t know much about him from there, but he seems down to earth and genuine now. I bought his CD, it’s fun.

For me, a rawk star going to the cool places with the cool people is not being a rebel, but conforming. To reject all of that would be showing a rebel side.

Agreed! My original statement was made in jest. I think Adam’s notion of the rock star lifestyle is sweet not rebellious. He keeps saying things like: “I arrived at the hotel room and then I promptly fell asleep.” What a rebel (err . . . that’s in jest)!!!

If he started trashing hotel rooms and sleeping with all the groupies I might reconsider.

I guess I didn’t read Jim’s tweet negatively, either…maybe we are all too quick to ride on the Jim-hates-Adam bandwagon? I mean, he didn’t need to mention it at all, right?

Why would Cantiello bother to tweet that?

Pure exasperation at the missed opportunity? Teasing his followers that the song is ‘out there’ and has been previewed?

Of course, I’m also taking a no-opinion position on the charlesbrowder ‘covergate’ tweet. I don’t know the dynamic between him and Kris – maybe the whole cover thing is a big joke between them. He followed up the pregnancy tweet with an explanation that he was just razzing Kris by playing down the ‘big news’ of that day. I imagine if Kris has a problem with the cover tweet, it will mysteriously disappear.

If JimC’s tweet was meant to be a dig at Adam, then that final “I HATE THEM SO HARD” would not make sense. I thought he was just expressing frustration that these people had a chance to hear the entire song (which he has not because Adam’s people seem to be not handing things out to the press) and didn’t take it. Also, he really, really WANTS to get another Adam interview. Even a subtle dig might take him out of that running.

3. His fans HAVE heard about the song and don’t like it.

Because almost everything that has happened with his single would only be widely known to his hardcore fans (they haven’t even sent out a myspace blast, right?) It’s hard to tell what is really going on. And because the relationship between online buzz and real world buzz is inconsistent, it is even harder to judge. Time will tell, I think.

This is definitely not true. LLWD has gotten really good reviews and the stations that have been playing it have gotten strong listener feedback. The fact that it has a bullet in the most recent Monday Mediabase update is a good sign. If you look at those Mediabase numbers, his spins have been almost evenly split between HotAC and Pop stations. Depending on how many staions end up adding LLWD, I expect to see LLWD move up the charts.

Now whether that comes just from increased airplay or whether the actual sales pick up, IDK. He hasn’t done any t.v. promotion yet — let’s wait and see if he goes on any of the late night talk shows.

As for the online stuff, the official sites for Kris and Adam are both pretty lame. It would really be nice if the official sites were better organized and provided daily or near daily updates. (On a side note, AO even put a “Kradam” thread in the forum. This was the site administrator that did this — not some fan. What’s up with that???)

This was posted on Adam’s FaceBook today:

“Before we bring you the first official single from Adam’s forthcoming new album, check out a few tantalizing glimpses of his stunning contribution to the theme of this year’s biggest cinematic blockbuster, 2012 – today on AOL Music.”

OK, it’s only 3 days late!

But figured I’d extend my concert giddy for another day since I get to re-up on it tomorrow. I liked David in black so I’m sticking a pic over here of him. I didn’t take any, I can’t multitask. Plus the camera nazis came and told me not to use flash before I even took a pic’ ¦ I think I took the fall for someone

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q361/FoolsApril64/charlo10_clc1.jpg

Guh that’s hot! I was just looking at some others, some ahem, full length shots from last night..What was up with the nice outfit?? Not that I’m complaining since I’ve been getting sick of the tees and plaid shirts, but Woah. Dayum. Drool.

I think RCA has bigger plans for Adam’s deluxe album. And since his Idol iTunes videos sold so well, I can’t imagine that they won’t at least include the music video. We’ll know in about 40 days!

Don’t you think we’ll get a video with his single before his album comes out? I can’t wait 40 days.

why would anyone who didn’t know about the song sit through the credits.

Because they usually do if they are Manhattanites. We had this discussion the other day of certain cities that usually sit through the credits. (And the boroughs of NYC should not be confused w/ Manhattan)

How is Jim C’s tweet a dig of Adam? I read it as simply calling out his co-workers for blowing the opportunity of hearing Adam’s song (and then reporting back to Jim C. about it).

Cassidy and Adam have both said they’ve never dated/hooked up. They are just good friends.

You have to read between the lines. If two co-workers at MTV didn’t sit through to hear Adam’s song (who apparently weren’t interested in Adam), why would anyone who didn’t know about the song sit through the credits. Why would Cantiello bother to tweet that?

Even if I tried to interpret that innocent tweet from Jim C. in as many ways as possible, I couldn’t come up with that interpretation.

Jim is pissed his friends didn’t stay till the end of the movie, depriving him of a blow-by-blow of what the entire song sounded like. The End.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

ETA:

maybe we are all too quick to ride on the Jim-hates-Adam bandwagon?

Jim doesn’t hate Adam.

Cassidy and Adam have both said they’ve never dated/hooked up. They are just good friends.

When did Adam say that he never dated Cassidy? Link please. Adam saying that he is good friends with Cassidy doesn’t mean he never dated him.

Rueben Studdard had a less passionate online fanbase and went on to be outsold by Clay.

Rueben had good sales for “Flying without Wings”. AI fans were expecting an R&B type album, since he was the “velvet teddy-bear”. Rueben insisted on doing light rap-crap. I remember there was a quote from him where he said something about…this was his album and he’d be the only one steering this car.
Rueben’s fans may not have been as passionate, but he had a lot of America waiting to buy his music. He just put out something that the fans weren’t expecting and didn’t like.

Cassidy and Adam have both said they’ve never dated/hooked up. They are just good friends.

And Cassidy is very good friends with Adam’s ex.

This is definitely not true. LLWD has gotten really good reviews and the stations that have been playing it have gotten strong listener feedback. The fact that it has a bullet in the most recent Monday Mediabase update is a good sign. If you look at those Mediabase numbers, his spins have been almost evenly split between HotAC and Pop stations. Depending on how many staions end up adding LLWD, I expect to see LLWD move up the charts.

I actually don’t think #3 is the case, I was just throwing it out there for arguments sake, to include all the possibilities. My money is on #1… that Kris has a lot of fans that are not online to the degree Adam’s are, and as he gets out to do promo and the song gains spins across the country, his sales will pick up accordingly.

I don’t think Cassidy is an ex of Adam’s but Cassidy is a very good friend of Cheeks.

I don’t think Cassidy is Adam’s type–he’s too masculine.

Glad to hear that some of you are expecting an album with more than 12 tracks. That would be great!!

Is it really possible to sing a song on a tour that was recorded but not included on an album? How could they do that if the label never bought the track? I am assuming the singer would have no right to sing the recorded track anywhere else, but maybe I’m totally wrong. When a track is recorded, but not used on the label, who owns it?

Back to work again . . .

What was up with the nice outfit??

I don’t know but it was pretty! *Shallowness alert* but it was just… a pretty evening. Good looking bunch of boys. Monty is cute rather than hot, but all I could think is I wanted to squish him. He’s adorable, great smile. David was wearing plaid at the Nook… then we got dressed up Dave for the show. Pretty, very pretty. (Of course per his banter he wears black because it is slimmmiiiinnng…)

sma11ie, don’t forget Weezer had a big hit a few years ago with “Beverly Hills.”

RE: Kris’ Prince tweet. Did Prince record Purple Rain in Minneapolis, MN? Because OneRepublic just tweeted about being in Minneapolis. They’re on tour right now. Maybe Kris went there to record with Ryan Tedder.

And Cassidy is very good friends with Adam’s ex.

Only since the LA Idol tour. Cheeks was out of the loop for a while until then.

I don’t think Cassidy is Adam’s type’“he’s too masculine.

lol. But I don’t think you saw the pic’s from his perf last night.

edit: I have my reasons for my belief but I am cutting it short here as I don’t think mj wants a lengthy discussion.

geez I can’t believe twitter peeps are starting to attack JimC complaining that he dissed Adam?

peeps really have to chill

I didn’t watch his season, I only watched the finale so I don’t know much about him from there, but he seems down to earth and genuine now. I bought his CD, it’s fun.

Blake locked Sanjaya in a closet during the tour, because “he was a disrespectful kid”, who “needed to be taught a lesson”. He said that Taylor Hicks is a douchbag, called David Archuleta boring, claimed that David Cook was stealing music from his friends, and who can forget his lovely catchphrase “Titties in your mouth”.

I think RCA has bigger plans for Adam’s deluxe album. And since his Idol iTunes videos sold so well, I can’t imagine that they won’t at least include the music video. We’ll know in about 40 days!

They better do. Adam is an eye-candy. It’s a treat to his fans. (Don’t want to appear shallow, but I’m telling the truth)

Question though ‘“ do the artists usually get invited to sit in on the mixing process and all the other stuff that goes on between finishing up with the recording and having the album ready for release?

Yes. I recall a Rolling Stone interview with Cook where they interviewed him hanging out at Cavallo’s recording studio before his album was released and he was asking stuff like, can we take this one guitar line out and, if we do, will that make the sound too thin. (I think Cavallo said it would actually sound heavier/dirtier, or something like that.) So yes, the artist can (and probably should) be around for the mixing part of the album — especially in a situation like an AI debut album where people are making compromises all over the place. You want the artist to be there so he can sign off on what he can live with and fight for what he wants vis-a-vis the mixing/production of the artist’s overall sound.

Rueben had good sales for ‘Flying without Wings’ . AI fans were expecting an R&B type album, since he was the ‘velvet teddy-bear’ . Rueben insisted on doing light rap-crap. I remember there was a quote from him where he said something about’ ¦this was his album and he’d be the only one steering this car.
Rueben’s fans may not have been as passionate, but he had a lot of America waiting to buy his music. He just put out something that the fans weren’t expecting and didn’t like.

That could be true. Rueben was certainly popular, I wasn’t trying to imply that he wasn’t. But Clay turned out to be more popular in the end, to me. I don’t think Rueben’s album was all that different from any idol’s album.. they all are not quite what their fanbase expected, since they all have to make compromises away from what they did on the show. Daughtry and Carrie are the only exceptions to me.

KLI

LOL — I was at Cassidy’s show last night. He wasn’t dressed or acting too masculine there! This probably depends on his mood and the situation…

geez I can’t believe twitter peeps are starting to attack JimC complaining that he dissed Adam?

peeps really have to chill

really? yeah some people need to calm down a bit

If and when Adam appears on SNL, do you think he will sing his single from the album or TfM? Actually, I don’t know if a big song like TfM would be suitable for a teeny studio/stage like SNL.

Oh, BTW, I went clothes shopping this weekend at the mall. Everywhere I turned, it was a sea of plaid. Not just in the guys’ department, but in the girls’ too. Plaid shirts, plaid skirts, plaid dresses. Plaid, plaid and more plaid.

maybe we are all too quick to ride on the Jim-hates-Adam bandwagon?

Jim doesn’t hate Adam.

I know, mj, I was saying *some* people think that. I don’t.

Cook looked very cute Saturday night, but he looks stunning in the black Sunday night attire.

ETA:
If and when Adam appears on SNL, do you think he will sing his single from the album or TfM? Actually, I don’t know if a big song like TfM would be suitable for a teeny studio/stage like SNL.

I agree. He wouldn’t sing TFM, he would sing a song from his album (actually, *two* songs if he is the musical guest; one at around 11:55PM, and one around 12:45AM, and that is the one that I often prefer, ala GaGa singing Poker Face last week).

Wow. No matter how many ways I could try to interpret that innocent tweet from Jim C., I couldn’t come up with that interpretation.

Jim is pissed his friends didn’t stay till the end of the movie, depriving him of a blow-by-blow of what the entire song sounded like. The End.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

I have to agree. I think Jim was annoyed with his co workers because they could have provided him with an “exclusive” account / critique of the song. (which brings me to another questions, Somebody besides Jim’s lame co-workers had to stay for the credits and hear the whole song, so why hasn’t somebody blogged something about it) So I am with Jim in regards to his co-works..I AM HATING ON THEM SO HARD TOO! and feel Jim had no hidden negative agenda to topple Adam’ good name. MJ is right sometimes a cigar is just a cigar….no matter how big it is…

I can’t believe some people are freaking out over Jim C’s tweet. I think reading an attack into Adam is ridiculous. If that is enough to set them off what are those fans going to do when Adam’s album comes out and some people don’t like it? A small section of Adam’s fans remind me of the claymates. That kind of obsessive devotion is nothing but dangerous to an artists career, because it turns off other fans and a lot of people in the media.

lol. But I don’t think you saw the pic’s from his perf last night.

GirlyGirl: Actually I have seen the pictures–all of them. I meant masculinity with respect to appearance not behavior. Appearance wise Cassidy is more masculine (rough jawline, angular face, big guy) than Kris. Kris is all cute and doe-eyed.

I’ll refrain from providing an in depth response although I want to. Trying to keep on topic here.

Anyway, nobody has responded to my most recent question regarding the rights of an artist to sing a track at a concert that was recorded by the artist but not included on an album. (Assuming the song was good but just not included for some reason).

Any takers?

as he (Kris) gets out to do promo and the song gains spins across the country, his sales will pick up accordingly.

LLWD is #104 on itune chart now. iirc it was #111 this morning. This is the biggest rebound since it slid down the chart. Radio spins seem to start selling the song.

Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!

If and when Adam appears on SNL, do you think he will sing his single from the album or TfM?

Maybe he could do both. Otherwise, I only want him to do TFM if it ends up on his album.

I don’t think Cassidy is Adam’s type’“he’s too masculine.

Adam said Kris was his type. I would think Kris would be considered more masculine than Cassidy. Just saying.

I’m not sure about Jim’s tweet. Hasn’t he already tweeted support and praise for Adam’s upcoming song?
And really in the big picture, he doesn’t matter. No one knows who he is outside the Idol bubble. Now Ryan Seacrest is another story’ ¦

spring2009: Is the single for TFM out on the 16th or 20th and will it be available on iTunes?

This is how a frequent IDF poster (with alleged industry experience, grain of salt) answered the question. It makes logical sense to me.

What happens on October 20th is you and hopefully a million others get to buy Time for Miracles at Amazon downloads or at iTunes or your favorite digital store.

What happens on October 16th is you and the same million get to hear the song in its glorious entirety either on radio or as an online stream (probably Adam Official or AOL or MySpace).

There is no mystery to the dates. The Friday release gets you all excited, enough to listen to the streams a few hundred times, and excited enough to stay up till midnight Monday to buy it first thing on Tuesday. The Tuesday availability date is to allow the song the full week to be sold and sales counted so that when Billboard puts up its singles chart the following week, Time For Miracles will be #1.

#1 would be $%*@!!! Also, I was curious about the length of TFM. At 4 min 40-odd sec. it seems sort of long for constant radio play. (Yes, I’m sure there are a multitude of examples of longish songs topping the charts, but I wondered whether they’d produce a shorter version.) But Aerosmith’s IDWTMAT is a similar length, so maybe not.

Guh that’s hot! I was just looking at some others, some ahem, full length shots from last night..What was up with the nice outfit?? Not that I’m complaining since I’ve been getting sick of the tees and plaid shirts, but Woah. Dayum. Drool.

Maybe it’s the change in the weather. You certainly would expect to see less T-shirts as the nights get chillier, but of course, there’s always that lovely combo: plaid shirt OVER T-shirt.

where is this interview that Adam said he has 30 songs?

Oh, BTW, I went clothes shopping this weekend at the mall. Everywhere I turned, it was a sea of plaid. Not just in the guys’ department, but in the girls’ too. Plaid shirts, plaid skirts, plaid dresses. Plaid, plaid and more plaid.

Yup – plaid is in – I bought a plaid dress.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Agree, MJ. It ain’t that deep…

Yes, Squirrely, so much that he just tweeted in response:

jambajim @111jackie111 How am I belittling Adam by saying I’m mad at my co-workers for not staying to hear Adam’s song????????????????????? 5 minutes ago from web

<bloAnyway, nobody has responded to my most recent question regarding the rights of an artist to sing a track at a concert that was recorded by the artist but not included on an album. (Assuming the song was good but just not included for some reason).ckquote>
Well, David Cook plays “Souvenir” (a song he wrote for the record but didn’t make the cut) at his concerts a lot.

Love the the dressed-up Cook look. (love any Cook look, really)

and more David Cook concert dates are being added – in Orlando, Charlotte, maybe more

You have to read between the lines.

Ugh. Poor Jim. Sometimes, when you read between the lines, there is nothing there.

I can’t believe some people are freaking out over Jim C’s tweet.

I took a peek at @jambajim’s replies, and I only see one negative tweet. Peeps are taking the tweet at face value for the most part.

If and when Adam appears on SNL, do you think he will sing his single from the album or TfM?

I am more interested to see if he finally gets to perform with the flaming headdress he wanted to for the Zodiac Show!

In addition to ignoring BFF’s stupid tweets and finishing recording his album, doesn’t Kris have a gig to prep for this weekend (Bosom Ball?)? It will be his first performance of LLWD. Anyone on here going? Previous headlines mentioned a bass player has been hired but he needs more musicians than that! Maybe Tim Stewart will join him? Wonder if Kris will perform anything else from his album or will it be old tour songs? Hopefully rehearsal sessions are in full swing this week, too, and the BB gig will be soon followed by other tv promo. On a shallow note–hoping Kris will wear a tux to the ball (pics please!)!!!

There. Kris fan trying to start some online buzz! (sorry don’t have a real smiley face)

To whoever it was who asked, Prince’s Purple Rain album was recorded mainly at Paisley Park in Minneapolis and at Sunset Sound here in L.A.

I’d guess Kris was recording at Sunset Sound last night…

mj
October 12, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I can’t believe some people are freaking out over Jim C’s tweet.

I took a peek at @jambajim’s replies, and I only see one negative tweet. Peeps are taking the tweet at face value for the most part.

whew, that’s good news mj – thanks.

my morning 2 cents
1) Yikes! How could anyone read Jim Cs tweet as a dig at Adam?
2) Why would anyone think Jim C hates Adam — he has generally been complimentary and jumps aboard all trending etc. He is desperate for an interview.
3) Listening to Alli’s song again – love it more and more — gave me a second wind on the treadmill!

Of course, star, I can’t believe I forgot Weezer’s Beverly Hills. I still hear that on radio!

I recall a Rolling Stone interview with Cook where they interviewed him hanging out at Cavallo’s recording studio before his album was released and he was asking stuff like, can we take this one guitar line out and, if we do, will that make the sound too thin. (I think Cavallo said it would actually sound heavier/dirtier, or something like that.) So yes, the artist can (and probably should) be around for the mixing part of the album

It was a piano line . Found the RS article. It was one of my favorites, back when RS was nice to DC haha. OK, album review wasn’t mean but kinda dismissive, and they’ve since decided to completely ignore him. Whatevs. Anyway, I think this song referenced below is Breathe Tonight (sigh, one of my faves, relegated to the Walmart bonus track):

Cook is slumped on a couch in Cavallo’s home studio in L.A.’s San Fernando Valley. There are at least seven Macintosh laptops in the room. On his computer, Cook is alternately playing Spore, looking up information on the Scottish band Mogwai and checking the Internet reaction to his single “Light On,” which is already in the Top Five on the iTunes charts. (The power ballad was co-written by Chris Cornell and hard-rock hitmaker Brian Howes; Cook squeezes the tune for every possible ounce of drama.) But then it’s time to listen to a mix of Cook’s song “Breathe Right” ‘” an epic guitar-driven rocker evocative of the Foo Fighters. Cook sits up straight, attentive to every detail.

“Is there a keyboard playing the chords under the verse?” Cook asks. “Will it sound thin if we take it out?”

“It’ll sound thicker,” Cavallo assures him. “We can make it dirty.”

“Rub some dirt on it, walk it off,” Cook jokes. “Let’s take it out. It’s a riff rocker. Sold.”

jambajim @111jackie111 How am I belittling Adam by saying I’m mad at my co-workers for not staying to hear Adam’s song?????????????????????

Jim ignore them. Ignore them and they will go away.

ETA: For the record I saw nothing wrong with that comment either. I tried to see how it could be rude, and it could be, but it required a lot of grasping.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

Yes sometimes it is, but not this time.

ETA:

jambajim @111jackie111 How am I belittling Adam by saying I’m mad at my co-workers for not staying to hear Adam’s song?????????????????????

If he really doesn’t know, then he’s even more foolish than I thought.

AOL Moviefone Listeners Get Their First Listen to Adam Lambert’s ‘Time for Miracles,’ Theme From Columbia Pictures’ ’2012′

http://ca.sys-con.com/node/1140883

Clarkson In Concert
Brimming with confidence, great vocals and emotions to match, Kelly Clarkson blew away the audience at the Taj

http://www.atlanticcityweekly.com/arts-and-entertainment/features/Clarkson-In-Concert-63998827.html

Hoosiermama

I know a bunch of fans from ontd_ai are going to Kris’ Bosom Ball gig. There was even a thread about meeting up and carpooling.

Kris is on the bill with The Script. I hope someone asks the band what they think of Kris’ version of LLWD

halfie
October 12, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Maybe Adam could join David on his Christmas tour.

(Looking for list of fake Adam christmas songs from a couple of weeks ago’ ¦)

What a concept

girlygirl: (On a side note, AO even put a ‘Kradam’  thread in the forum. This was the site administrator that did this ‘” not some fan. What’s up with that???)

I think they did it to cross-promote Kris. Can’t figure out why else they would do it. But it is trivial — there are about 700K comments on AO.com and 581 are on the Kradam thread — the number 1 topic is the petition to remove the Kradam thread. So trivial and not popular.

tinawina:
There isn’t anyway to tell until his promo starts or his song picks up. I think one of three scenarios are going on:

1. He has a lot of fans but a bigger chunk of them are more casual.

2. He does not have that many fans, period, compared to Adam.

3. His fans HAVE heard about the song and don’t like it.

I think that all three are true. I think Kris has a lot of casual fans, Adam has more fans and added more post-Idol, and many Kris fans have heard LLWD and don’t like it. I think that the song choice is the biggest problem.

I would also like to add these three to your list.

4. Jive/19R – screwed up when they selected this song as the lead single. (Kris didn’t pick it and it’s not his fault.)

5. Jive/19R – screwed up the song release with the Friday on sale date, unclear communications with fans and the press, and sloppy promotion.
(That’s not Kris’ job and it’s not his fault.)

6. Jive/19R – thought that fans were stupid and would not notice it was a cover; they didn’t have a good story for why it was the single and Kris wasn’t properly preped to handle the questions about it.
(Once again, not Kris’ fault.)

BONUS #1: They song lyrics fed right into the online jokes about “I’ve fallen and I can’t get up”. They should have rewritten the first line of the song.

BONUS #2: They should have changed the title — “Live Like We’re Dying” is too much like the “Live Like You Were Dying” Tim McGraw’s country cross-over hit from 2004-2005 — #29 Billboard Hot 100; #1 Billboard Country. The title is mangled into “Live Like You’re Dying” even in some press reports.

Note: Bonus #1 and Bonus #2 would not have been problems if Jive/19R hadn’t picked this truly crappy song for Kris’ single.

That said, I think that Kris will be successful and his album will do well inspite of this single. Hopefully, Jive/19R will release another single to promote the album.

It’s amazing what people can read into 140 characters. Tweets have to be short and you can’t take care of every nuance before you run out of spa

I don’t want to wait another four days to hear TfM in its entirety.

BTW, I can’t believe two people who work at MTV couldn’t sit through the credits to listen to Adam’s song. Now I am really worried if two people in the music industry (who already know about TfM) don’t do that, what about the rest of the world?

Ooooh! I do have a smiley face!!! Thanks for magically appearing! (still learning…)

AimeeMayo is tweeting again. And she sounds a little tense.

@LoveLifeDC i am almost numb from worry. i just want on that record so bad it feels like it is squeezing my heart. i’m so ready to know. : )about 3 hours ago from web in reply to LoveLifeDC

@BdwayDiva1 i heard that but then i heard they were deciding 2 weeks ago. i’m sure we will all know within moments when they announce it.about 2 hours ago from web in reply to BdwayDiva1

(here is BdwayDiva1′s tweet to Aimee: @AimeeMayo Are they deciding today?about 3 hours ago from web in reply to AimeeMayo)

So does this mean the latest rumor is they will be picking Adam’s single today?

another nice review:

http://www.popnography.com/2009/10/hummer-sneak-peek-of-adam-lamberts-new-song.html

Deleted-mistaken it was annology

If and when Adam appears on SNL, do you think he will sing his single from the album or TfM? Actually, I don’t know if a big song like TfM would be suitable for a teeny studio/stage like SNL.

I’m going to agree with what Tess said when we had this discussion the other day. Tess (Im pretty sure it was Tess) said that she thinks the actors of 2012, i.e., Cusak, will be on the show and Adam will perform TFM on that show.

BTW, I can’t believe two people who work at MTV couldn’t sit through the credits to listen to Adam’s song. Now I am really worried if two people in the music industry (who already know about TfM) don’t do that, what about the rest of the world?

It probably says more about what a crappy movie 2012 is than anything about TFM. I sometimes think Adam fans try to find things to worry about!

ETA: I know I probably wouldn’t be able to sit through 2012 either, but I LOVE TFM!

Idol chatter article about this week radio airplay.

tinawina:
There isn’t anyway to tell until his promo starts or his song picks up. I think one of three scenarios are going on:

1. He has a lot of fans but a bigger chunk of them are more casual.

2. He does not have that many fans, period, compared to Adam.

3. His fans HAVE heard about the song and don’t like it.

Probably all the above, what would be interesting is to know what percentage each point carries of the whole.
I’d give no 1 the lion’s share, 2 & 3 the would carry the remainder in equal measure.

MTV is still the music industry? I thought it was the reality television industry…….

I think the only reasonable interpretation of Jim’s tweet is that his two co-workers either: 1) Didn’t know about TFM or; 2) Didn’t care about it.

But by Jim tweeting, “Hate them so hard” he was clearly dissing their lack of interest/knowledge. Jim is not slamming Adam; he is supporting him.

Shocking news people: not everyone is obsessed with Adam, even those who work for MTV. Tastes do vary.

It probably says more about what a crappy movie 2012 is than anything about TFM. I sometimes think Adam fans try to find things to worry about!

So true. Jim didn’t say when the coworkers left. The movie may have been so bad they bailed long before the credits.

Shocking news people: not everyone is obsessed with Adam, even those who work for MTV. Tastes do vary.

This is just silly talk!

Maybe Tim Stewart will join him?

Wasn’t Tim Stewart prepping for a tour with the Backstreet Boys? Or am I thinking of another MFB member?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

Yes sometimes it is, but not this time.

ETA:

jambajim @111jackie111 How am I belittling Adam by saying I’m mad at my co-workers for not staying to hear Adam’s song?????????????????????

If he really doesn’t know, then he’s even more foolish than I thought.

What exactly do you have in mind Sunn?

If he really doesn’t know, then he’s even more foolish than I thought.

Then I’m a raving idiot too, because I don’t get it. And yes, I know I just gave you the mother of all straight lines. Heh.

Seriously… its time to step away from the Adam IMO when you are reaching that level of paranoia. Wow.

If he really doesn’t know, then he’s even more foolish than I thought.

I think his confusion is indicative of the fact that he actually was disappointed they didn’t stay so he could get the details on the song. He’s perplexed, because there was no hidden agenda. His tweet was pretty straight-forward.

Jim C seems like a fun guy with a great sense of humor. I haven’t noticed any under-current of hositility, quite the opposite actually. I think finding an Adam insult inside of each of Jim’s tweets is really just projection at this point. Reading something that just isn’t there, and given Jim’s personality seems about as likely as a unicorn sighting.

BTW, I can’t believe two people who work at MTV couldn’t sit through the credits to listen to Adam’s song. Now I am really worried if two people in the music industry (who already know about TfM) don’t do that, what about the rest of the world?

I don’t believe that people actually have to watch the movie to hear the song. This song will be played outside of the theater movie credits. I left before the closing credits of Titanic but trust me I know the song well (can’t remember if it was payed during the movie). The only time I really stay during the credits is if I hear a song during the movie and want to know who sang it or if the theater is crowded and I’m waiting for it to thin out. Unnecessary worry Best AI, the song will be heard by millions – hell Ryan Seacrest may see to that.

seems about as likely as a unicorn sighting.

With a side of magic rainbows?

Sorry, Sunn, I have to disagree.

ambajim @111jackie111 How am I belittling Adam by saying I’m mad at my co-workers for not staying to hear Adam’s song?????????????????????

ITA and that was in response to my tweet as well!!

Star: RE: Kris’ Prince tweet. Did Prince record Purple Rain in Minneapolis, MN? Because OneRepublic just tweeted about being in Minneapolis. They’re on tour right now. Maybe Kris went there to record with Ryan Tedder.

“Purple Rain” was recorded live then overdubbed and mixed in Studio 3 at Sunset Sound in L.A.

Source: Mix Magazine

What exactly do you have in mind Sunn?

In mind for what?

suebrody
October 12, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Sorry, Sunn, I have to disagree.

You have every right to disagree sue, this is definitely a MMV situation. I’m not looking to convince anyone, It’s simply my opinion based on what I gathered of Jim’s writing and tweeting style.

It was a piano line . Found the RS article. It was one of my favorites, back when RS was nice to DC haha. OK, album review wasn’t mean but kinda dismissive, and they’ve since decided to completely ignore him.

Ha! I almost forgot RS actually use to give him coverage. Remember back then they also considered him a rocker too. They don’t give Daughtry much coverage anymore either. Ah well I stopped taking them seriously since they gave the Jonas Brothers two covers and a special edition issue.

Maybe it’s the change in the weather. You certainly would expect to see less T-shirts as the nights get chillier, but of course, there’s always that lovely combo: plaid shirt OVER T-shirt.

SHHHH! Don’t give him ideas! No seriously he has been wearing even in the not so warm days long sleeve shirts but that particular outfit was just really, really nice. His pants even looked tailored. Yum.

This Jim/MTV drama. I’d say all it means is that despite the claim that everyone in Manhattan sits through the credits its simply not true. I could give two craps about TFM but seriously, I saw Titanic in the movies and people were walking out on My Heart Will Go On. Not everyone who cares to go see the movie will care about the music, some will, but not everyone. Since they work for MTV maybe they even had somewhere else to go at a certain time after the movie.

where’s the damn single!!? It’s october 12th already!!!!

Q3… you are quite passionate about Kris’ single! LOL!

5. Jive/19R ‘“ screwed up the song release with the Friday on sale date, unclear communications with fans and the press, and sloppy promotion.
(That’s not Kris’ job and it’s not his fault.)

I agree with this part. I have no idea why they released it like that. It was so weird.

And you are right, all 3 may be true to varying degrees. But like you, I’m not worried about Kris either. He’ll be fine I think.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

Yes sometimes it is, but not this time.

ETA:

jambajim @111jackie111 How am I belittling Adam by saying I’m mad at my co-workers for not staying to hear Adam’s song?????????????????????

If he really doesn’t know, then he’s even more foolish than I thought.

How is he being foolish? He’s genuinely confused by the OTT reaction to this IMO. Someone earlier compared some of Adam’s fans to Claymates. From what I’m seeing, they have the potential to be worse than Claymates……..something I never thought possible. Scary stuff.

4. Jive/19R ‘“ screwed up when they selected this song as the lead single. (Kris didn’t pick it and it’s not his fault.)

Didn’t Kris have a hand in approving the song though? In all of his interviews he says “we heard the song and loved it”. He said it fit his style and vibe, right? I’m assuming that “we heard the song” means he did hear the Script’s version of it. That’s why I’m surprised there isn’t any stylistic change to the song at all.

Or are you saying that Kris didn’t pick it to be his first single, but did approve it for his album?

Suebrody I think you need a tweeting intervention

FWIW I live in Manhattan and the only time I ever sit thru credits is if there are funny bloopers….went to a movie this weekend (fyi, Zombieland is really funny!) and everyone got up and left as soon as credits began to roll….

It probably says more about what a crappy movie 2012 is than anything about TFM.

It probably says more about how looonnng the movie is. I suspect a lot of those folks are rushing out to get in line for the bathrooms.

ETA: I read between the lines and found nothing. Just Jim trying to be funny.

“Blake locked Sanjaya in a closet during the tour, because ‘he was a disrespectful kid’ , who ‘needed to be taught a lesson’ . He said that Taylor Hicks is a douchebag, called David Archuleta boring, claimed that David Cook was stealing music from his friends, and who can forget his lovely catchphrase ‘Titties in your mouth’ . ”

Yikes! Is this all true?

Touring pranks are expected and go on all the time, but maybe there was honest bullying on the Sanjaya thing, I don’t know.

Why did he call Taylor a douchebag? Had they met at some point and not gotten along?

I personally like Archuleta but I can see the viewpoint that he might be a little boring to some, but I’m surprised that any anti-Cook sentiment came from Blake who I thought was a fan of Cook’s (I remember a shot of him at the S7 finale with the letters ‘COOK’ on his fingers, pointing his fist at the camera to make it clear which contestant he favored)

I never heard that catchphrase either.

I didn’t know about any of this stuff, if it’s all true I guess there’s a reason that he has a reputation as a scumbag.

I still like his second album and think the kid has a lot of talent, but if all this is true he sounds like a jerk.

I took a peek at @jambajim’s replies, and I only see one negative tweet. Peeps are taking the tweet at face value for the most part.

I wonder why Jim responded to her? It’s better to ignore the crazies, since the internet and especially twitter is full of them. I kind of wish he hadn’t–when people respond to negative tweets, it gives the impression that they’ve been deluged with negative tweets instead of an isolated one. But I’m glad that he wasn’t getting lots of negative tweets for something that wasn’t at all negative. I appreciate that Jim seems genuinely very enthusiastic about all of Kradison.

Wait, Sunn, you think Jim was being negative in some way? I honestly don’t see that at all. It’s not, like, a mortal insult or something for people not to stay to listen to the song at the end of the credits, and Jim has complimented the longer clip of the song and said he wants to hear it. I don’t see the problem with that.

looks like an intense conversation:

http://twitpic.com/f0wcn

Someone earlier compared some of Adam’s fans to Claymates. From what I’m seeing, they have the potential to be worse than Claymates

And MJ said she saw ONE tweet to Jim that was negative. Did you see all the tweets to Lindsey Parker and Allisan Porter when a negative word was said about another idol? All idols have their fanatics, Adam is not the exception.

Personally, I think tweeting anyone involved with the idols endlessly to try to get more and more details is just as annoying as some negative tweets.

Lyndsay’s latest blog on the X-factor is explosive

Apparently Danii M. outed Daryl J. and Simon was not happy.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/275054/danyl-johnson-accidentally-outed-on-the-x-factor/

In mind for what?

Can you explain why you believe Jim tweet is offensive to Adam?

halfie
October 12, 2009 at 1:24 pm

It’s amazing what people can read into 140 characters. Tweets have to be short and you can’t take care of every nuance before you run out of spa

ROTFLMAO

Someone may already have posted this link, but if not, it’s a publication of a general news wire press release distributed about TFM.

http://ca.sys-con.com/node/1140883

4evrmomof4
October 12, 2009 at 1:44 pm
looks like an intense conversation:

http://twitpic.com/f0wcn

What bugs me about that picture, was that was supposed to be a private family meet and greet. There were lots of pictures from “fans” who bragged about sneaking into it. Sad.

Thank you guys. I just won a free lunch, restaurant of my choice. I told my friend I was going to post a comment about Cantiello, and if I get a strong reaction, she pays for lunch. She thought no one would care. Thinking of restaurants now (I know, it’s just lunch — it’s the winning that counts).

How is he being foolish? He’s genuinely confused by the OTT reaction to this IMO. Someone earlier compared some of Adam’s fans to Claymates.

He’s being foolish by not realizing how easily that tweet can be misinterpreted. FOr a man who writes for a living, he’s not very good at communicating his intentions, possibly due to his over use of snark.

Also, I’m not into Idol mythology, so comparisons to Claymates or any other goto Idol put-downs mean nothing to me. I call things as I see them, without care or reference to anyone else’s opinion on the matter whatsoever.

CindyM,

I had no idea where and when this was, it showed up on twitter…..

hee, Jimgate. I don’t think I told y’all here but when I was at Ticketmaster for my Kris/Fray concert tickets, my captcha was “krim ness.” It’s a conspiracy I tell ya.

And MJ said she saw ONE tweet to Jim that was negative. Did you see all the tweets to Lindsey Parker and Allisan Porter when a negative word was said about another idol? All idols have their fanatics, Adam is not the exception

That is true–I remember a tweet to Alisan Porter saying that she deserved to be raped with a drill for what she said about Kris, which seems like a decided overreaction, to say the least. Adam and Kris, especially, as the most popular guys, do have a number of crazy fans. I think Adam has a few more, but then again, he seems to have more fans on the internet in general, so who knows what the numbers are proportionally.

And I have seen nothing from any Adam or Kris fan that indicates that they are approaching the levels of widespread craziness of the claymates (based on what I’ve heard, anyway–the clay stuff was before my time), happily.

looks like an intense conversation:

The one before is a little more lighthearted though:

http://twitpic.com/f0w7h

I had no idea where and when this was, it showed up on twitter’ ¦..

From the date of those pics and Neil and Leila both being there, it looks like Newark, day 1.

BestAI: BTW, I can’t believe two people who work at MTV couldn’t sit through the credits to listen to Adam’s song. Now I am really worried if two people in the music industry (who already know about TfM) don’t do that, what about the rest of the world?

Movie reviewers often leave preview showings before the end. The credits are in the PR kits. And if you don’t like campy SciFi diaster end-of-the-world movies, you aren’t the audience for 2012. (And can anyone name a major reviewer who likes SciFi films?)

As far as TfM goes, it doesn’t matter as long as the song is part of this big budget movie. It will:1. get released as a single 2. get reviewed and get more news mentions for Adam 3. be used in “2012″ promotions 4. be mentioned again at the end of the year when Oscar nominations start getting discussed. 5. Give Adam to a global audience. 6. Introduce Adam to a new audience.

From a marketing standpoint, this cross promotion is brilliant for Adam. His fanbase skews female/older and is heavily based on Idol. “2012″ will have a younger, male audience — heavy music buyers but very many not Idol watchers or viewers. Adam also has a lot of support from the Gay community — online and offline. That is a pretty powerful combo for launching a new recording artist.

KLI –

Anyone can sing anything live at a performance. You do not need permission from songwriters for that.

love the PRNewswire news releases:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/aol-moviefone-listeners-get-their-first-listen-to-adam-lamberts-time-for-miracles-theme-from-columbia-pictures-2012-64010857.html

He’s being foolish by not realizing how easily that tweet can be misinterpreted

Sunn, he said that his coworkers didn’t stay to hear the song, and he was upset with them for that. He used a lighthearted tone. I don’t see how that could be any more straightforward. I mean, I guess a really paranoid fan could read some insult into him mentioning that his coworkers didn’t stay or something–but that would require huge levels of paranoia and sensitivity, IMO, because even if they didn’t choose to stay, that’s hardly a mortal insult–people don’t always stay for the credits. So, it seems like excessive paranoia to think that Jim should have somehow recognized a possible veiled insult in a tweet that was meant to be funny/complimentary.

And MJ said she saw ONE tweet to Jim that was negative. Did you see all the tweets to Lindsey Parker and Allisan Porter when a negative word was said about another idol? All idols have their fanatics, Adam is not the exception.

Though I wholeheartedly believe Jim meant no ill will in his original tweet. I also think by him answering the only negative tweets does give the impression that he is being bombarded by crazed fans which in turn leads people to assume that Adams fans are worst then Claymates. Why didn’t he acknowledge the tons of positive tweets he received in his defense. I am not saying there was a hidden agenda in the last tweet either just saying not the best Judgment on his part to focus on the one individual nut job. IMHO

From the date of those pics and Neil and Leila both being there, it looks like Newark, day 1.

Also, he has the “floppy Elvis” hair, which makes it Newark.

However, on a very shallow note, I’ve very taken with Adam’s HANDS in the second picture. For some reason, the lack of rings make them look very large and masculine, even with the nail polish. NICE.

4evrmomof4
October 12, 2009 at 1:50 pm
CindyM,

I had no idea where and when this was, it showed up on twitter’ ¦..

Oh, I wasn’t criticizing you for posting it, not at all I saw the pics and a youtube video from that event and the person who posted bragged about lying to security that she was family and was able to get in.

I’m surprised that any anti-Cook sentiment came from Blake who I thought was a fan of Cook’s (I remember a shot of him at the S7 finale with the letters ‘COOK’ on his fingers, pointing his fist at the camera to make it clear which contestant he favored.

Full story as I remember it: Blake was friends with the band in Seattle (can’t remember the name) who made a stink about Cook not crediting them when he used part of their rearrangement of Eleanor Rigby during Beatles night. Blake jumped on the bandwagon calling out Cook, only to apologize on his blog later on because he found out that Cook actually credited the band in a pre-performance clip, only to have that part end up on the cutting room floor. Of course, said friend’s band continued to make a stink about it, so Cook had to address the issue AGAIN in another pre-performance interview with Ryan to clear up matters. What was kinda funny about it is that Cook said he actually combined two different people’s rearrangement for the ER performance — Neil Zaza and the band making the stink.

But by Jim tweeting, ‘Hate them so hard’  he was clearly dissing their lack of interest/knowledge. Jim is not slamming Adam; he is supporting him.

I so agree with this. I don’t how Jim’s Tweet can be interpreted as a diss on Adam. Sounds more like a diss on his co-workers. I have read all of Jim’s Tweets about TFM as being really favorable.

looks like an intense conversation:

http://twitpic.com/f0wcn

Awww I love Neil! I hope he gets a writing job in NY. But it is despicable that someone snuck into a private family meet and greet. Wish I didn’t know that

He’s being foolish by not realizing how easily that tweet can be misinterpreted. FOr a man who writes for a living, he’s not very good at communicating his intentions, possibly due to his over use of snark.

Well he’s better at it than you think, since he only got one negative tweet back and 2 posts on here reading it in a bad way… and one of those just admitted she did it on a dare. So I’m thinking his communication skills are pretty good. LOL.

Movie reviewers often leave preview showings before the end. The credits are in the PR kits. And if you don’t like campy SciFi diaster end-of-the-world movies, you aren’t the audience for 2012. (And can anyone name a major reviewer who likes SciFi films?)

Q3 I get this but someone had to stay and hear the song..Why nothing about it on the internet? There has to be a blog somewhere. (unless these two MTV employees where the only one’s at the screening? )“Is Anybody Listenin”?..

ugh so the one day I can catch up on the thread(I’ll do my homework later.heh) I SLEEP until 2???!!!!!! sigh

ok ctching up…

Squirrely
October 12, 2009 at 1:41 pm

Suebrody I think you need a tweeting intervention

Need I say I resemble this remark? So…I won’t tell you about Aimee’s tweets this morning…(lol) (Hey, SHE started it…!!!)

BestAI, not one of my friends could give a damn about Idol (except the one that went with me to Cook, and she preferred Ryan Star, tho she kind of sort of knew the two radio singles–I think she meant LO and CBTM and not ToML), so no free lunch for me.

I am not saying there was a hidden agenda in the last tweet either just saying not the best Judgment on his part to focus on the one individual nut job. IMHO

And that’s what is done – there is more focus on the negative than the positive to give an impression that an entire fan group has issues. And as was stated earlier all the fan groups have issues. I’m still stuck on the fan who said Alysan Porter deserved physical sexual harm for a comment that wasn’t even in reference to Kris, but they assumed it was.
But hey I know my level of fan obsession so I try not to let the claymate/glambert comparison crap bother me to much.

I knew 2012 was going to suck but now i can’t wait for it to come out.The vids from peeps showing adam-mates going nuts on peeps leaving before the credits run.Will be SO GREAT.Look at just 1 tweet did about it.This will be super fun to watch.

I sometimes think Adam fans try to find things to worry about!

Seriously. The same goes for Kris fans and Allison fans, I think, though maybe to a lesser degree. I mean, excessively high expectations aren’t productive, but neither is freaking out because two people from MTV decided to leave a screening of a movie without staying for the credits. I’ve never followed an artist before they’ve put out a CD before, and it’s certainly a bit stressful, but it does seem like people look for reasons to worry sometimes.

Sunn, he said that his coworkers didn’t stay to hear the song, and he was upset with them for that. He used a lighthearted tone. I don’t see how that could be any more straightforward.

It obviously was misinterpreted though wasn’t it? Assuming ofcourse it was a misinterpretation. Jim is the kind of writer who never directly says what he means if he can help it. His style is full of sarcasm and his criticisms in the past have always been coated. Almost everything he writes carries a double entendre to some degree. People get used to a certain writing voice and begin to interpret based on past experience. If he doesn’t know how his voice is perceived by his readers, myself included, then he is very foolish and lacks self awareness imo.

I really don’t get how Jim was at all dissing Adam, like at all and yeah, cigar cigar etc. But I hope that it was confined to the one negative Tweet to Jim, because it wasn’t a diss, but even if it was, he’s allowed to do so and not get spammed because of it. Oy.

But if Jim wasn’t getting, but one negative Tweet, than why respond? Although he’s probably fed up with some of the over anxious Adam fans, so maybe he’s sick of it and so responding to that. Which I get.

I actually do think that more of Kris’s fans are more casual and so will need radio play to be exposed to his music, so that there with increased radio play that people will hear it and a percentage of them, hopefully a large one, will like it enough to buy it.

Apparently Danii M. outed Daryl J. and Simon was not happy.

Didn’t Danyl pretty much say he was bi-sexual like in his first performance and later on TV? I haven’t really paid attention to this show this season, I have more in other seasons through YouTubes. But that was my undersanding, could be all wrong. But I will also say what Danii said and how during the show, really pissed me off. I so agreed with Simon, WTF did Danyl’s sexuality have to do with his performance? She was a wench, glad she apologized.

I don’t believe that people actually have to watch the movie to hear the song. This song will be played outside of the theater movie credits. I left before the closing credits of Titanic but trust me I know the song well (can’t remember if it was payed during the movie).

Exactly. I remember that Faith Hill song that was made for Pearl Harbor, (which turned out to be a terrible movie btw) was played everywhere. I didn’t really notice the song in the movie, but I remember hearing that song every time the movie was advertised, and I remember that music video with Faith Hill singing in some field with some odd billowing sheets or something, and the video had all htese clips of the movie. Anyway, yeah, people don’t stay through credits, but that doesn’t stop them from hearing the closing credit song elsewhere.

Thank you guys. I just won a free lunch, restaurant of my choice. I told my friend I was going to post a comment about Cantiello, and if I get a strong reaction, she pays for lunch.

Haha, nice. Fooled us, BestAI. I dunno, I enjoy both Slezak and Jim C a lot even when they don’t love my favorites. It’s their job to follow AI and have favorites and not-so-favorites. It was always odd to me when fans decide to take offense and hate them so strongly. Wait, was Sunn trying to win lunch too? No? Darn.

Anyone can sing anything live at a performance. You do not need permission from songwriters for that.

As long as the song has been published or registered. If a song was presented to an artist and rejected it can’t be performed unless it is truly a “song” meant for distribution. Writers get paid royalties for every song they publish and is then sung, whether live or through recordings (man I would hate to be the person responsible for tracking that).

A writer may choose to present a song…and if it is rejected he may choose to pull it off the market. I believe both DC and DA are singing material that was not on their initial album or released as a bonus tract…but the material must be registered so they can sing it on their tours.

Just remember that every time you hear a song whether on tour, on the radio, on tv, on an ad, as a snippet on Ellen, etc. the writer is entitled to his royalties. It may only be pennies a play. I can remember in old movies when the character playing the songwriter would get his royalty check from a song he had written years before and the laugh would always be that the song made 95cents that month.

It obviously was misinterpreted though wasn’t it, assuming ofcourse it was a misinterpretation

um…MJ said there was *one* negative tweet about it.

I could probably post “I LOVE ADAM, I THINK HE’S BRILLIANT AND AMAZING!” on twitter and get at least one negative tweet back saying, “I don’t appreciate your sarcasm about Adam, bitch, shut up.” It’s the internet–it’s full of crazies and people who misinterpret and freak out over everything.

If that’s the standard of poor communication, then every single person who ever writes anything that ever gets posted on the internet is a poor communicator.

Thank you guys. I just won a free lunch, restaurant of my choice. I told my friend I was going to post a comment about Cantiello, and if I get a strong reaction, she pays for lunch. She thought no one would care. Thinking of restaurants now (I know, it’s just lunch ‘” it’s the winning that counts).

Well, congrats. That little prank just earned you a spot in moderation, at least for now. You’ve been teetering on strike two anyway, for awhile

Enjoy your lunch. I hope it was worth it.

Yeah, I am thinking the same’ ¦ though didn’t redOne do 6 tracks? All of them probably won’t make the album. I am still not sure about his Cavallo collaboration. He has produced some great records but what the heck happeded with Cook last year?

What happened to Cookie’s album last year was that he WON AI and had to keep the idol fanbase happy as well as try to get new fans. I personnally think they went a little overboard with being “safe” but when you win that is the cross to bear. Hopefully his next will be much better (watch his live performances which in my opinion are light years above the album). As much a I love the album, DC is a much better musician than the album portrays. Adam doesn’t have the balance act that Cookie has had so good for him.

A word to the Drake had better suck it up and not the “pissy wife”…why? They had a tif and because Adam is in the limelight he (Drake) should sit back and be the silent partner? Gossip will be what gossip is and if the tabloids want to gossip they will. That’s to say I feel for Drake because of all of the attention Adam gets, but get real people. None of us would take and crap from our partner just because they are a “known” figure. Emotions don’t work like that. I don’t know that this in fact really happened, but they both had better get used to it. It comes with fame and notority. Ask David Cook with all the crap he got for being concerned about his fans.

Why nothing about it on the internet? There has to be a blog somewhere. (unless these two MTV employees where the only one’s at the screening? )‘Is Anybody Listenin‘ ?..

LOL – maybe all the explosions in high def destroyed their hearing

But it is despicable that someone snuck into a private family meet and greet. Wish I didn’t know that

Based on some of the stories I’ve read about people trying to get in only to be rejected, I really doubt anyone was actually able to sneak in. They probably knew someone who knew someone. I think some people like that feeling of “getting away with something” and think it makes a more exciting story to tell. At Rosemont, the concert I attended, security was in full force, so I really doubt anyone could have sneaked back stage or wherever it was they held the friends/family meet & greet.

love the PRNewswire news releases:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/aol-moviefone-listeners-get-their-first-listen-to-adam-lamberts-time-for-miracles-theme-from-columbia-pictures-2012-64010857.html

Thanks, nice comment from Adam in there! It seems like the official release would’ve included info about when we’ll get to hear the full song, when it will be on iTunes, etc. though.

The vids from peeps showing adam-mates going nuts on peeps leaving before the credits run.Will be SO GREAT.Look at just 1 tweet did about it.This will be super fun to watch.

I love life when people can have fun no matter what.

It’s their job to follow AI and have favorites and not-so-favorites. It was always odd to me when fans decide to take offense and hate them so strongly

Especially when no Kradison fan has any reason to complain–Jim and Slezak don’t always love the winners/people who get signed, but this year they genuinely love Kris, Adam, and Allison and have written tremendously nice things about all of them. Fans should just be happy about that.

And it’s fun to hear that Ryan said something about Adam on his show today! Ryan always seemed to like Adam a lot, which could definitely be very helpful in promoting his single.

isisdagmar

MJ said there was one negative tweet about it.

I read it as a -ve remark and didn’t tweet about it. Jim C is just not that important.

I could probably post ‘I LOVE ADAM, I THINK HE’S BRILLIANT AND AMAZING!’  on twitter and get at least one negative tweet back saying, ‘I don’t appreciate your sarcasm about Adam, bitch, shut up.’  It’s the internet’“it’s full of crazies and people who misinterpret and freak out over everything.

If that’s the standard of poor communication, then every single person who ever writes anything that ever gets posted on the internet is a poor communicator.

OMG seriously. Thank you. And as a blogger, I know how that goes. Jim can be a little vague, but I saw nothing ambiguous about that particular tweet. GAH.

And I can’t believe we’re even having a conversation about this. It’s devolved into something ridiculous, started by someone who was BAITING all of us.

Suebrody I think you need a tweeting intervention

Need I say I resemble this remark? So’ ¦I won’t tell you about Aimee’s tweets this morning’ ¦(lol) (Hey, SHE started it’ ¦!!!)

yeah, Aimee started it – she was talking to Ferras.

Yup ‘“ plaid is in ‘“ I bought a plaid dress.

Someone buy one for Katie Allen, STAT!

Well, David Cook plays ‘Souvenir’  (a song he wrote for the record but didn’t make the cut) at his concerts a lot.

Cook can sing Souvenir because I believe he’s the songwriter, so it’s his song. I don’t know the legalities of a song not written by an artist that they subsequently decide not to use. Perhaps the writer would like to use it or sell it to someone else down the line, but I don’t think you (the person who is not the songwriter) are free to use it without compensation.

The only time I really stay during the credits

I stay during the credits when I expect that the film maker is going to include some funny, quirky additions, like at the end of “Capitalism: A Love Story.” You don’t want to miss any jokes.

Or are you saying that Kris didn’t pick it to be his first single, but did approve it for his album?

I wouldn’t be surprised.

Full story as I remember it: Blake was friends with the band in Seattle (can’t remember the name) who made a stink about Cook not crediting them when he used part of their rearrangement of Eleanor Rigby during Beatles night.

Doxology.

I guess I just don’t see the point getting all up in arms by what Jim C. has to say anyway. I mean he’s an obvious fanboy of Kris’s, has slobbered all over him on twitter and MTV and it hasn’t really increased sales of Kris’s singles amongst internet fans, has it? The fanboy posts have increased, but there’s no real corresponding sales action. If he had some great power to entice people to buy or listen, I might feel differently.

He’s entitled to his opinion and I’m happy he found the Idol for him. Well, I guess second Idol for him, isn’t Allison his #1? Personally, I find his tweets and his writing kinda silly, but it works for him. I think I just have a problem with his frenetic energy, Idol in 60 seconds or whatever made me nervous every time I watched it. He loves Kris, He Loves Allison, I think he genuinely likes all the others. It ain’t that deep.

Ryan may luve Adam but don’t count on ever hearing TFM on his show. Ryan’s KISS show is almost completely urban. Maybe Allison’s single would get played there. And possibly Adam’s non 2012 music if its very urban/dance (like Britney). Otherwise forget it.

Ryan always seemed to like Adam a lot, which could definitely be very helpful in promoting his single.

Absolutely! Judging from the number of followers Ryan has on Twitter (nearly 2.5 million!), if I were to choose someone to have my back, it would certainly be him! I don’t think Adam has anything to worry about. He’s won over so many hearts along the way– many of them in influential places–and I feel certain his talents will win over many, many more in the very near future!

OMG seriously. Thank you. And as a blogger, I know how that goes. Jim can be a little vague, but I saw nothing ambiguous about that particular tweet. GAH.

And I can’t believe we’re even having a conversation about this. It’s devolved into something ridiculous, started by someone who was BAITING all of us

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No problem. And you’re right, conversation about this is essentially pointless–I guess the conversation started because people thought that Jim was being deluged with negative tweets, which fortunately wasn’t the case.

So…having misinterpreted all of this…

Is TFM playing at the end of the movie in its entirety but only available for screenings? And will the single be available for download this Friday? I seriously cannot keep these dates in mind, I just can’t. And I assume Adam could sing any song (tho he will probably sing the single) from his album at GMA, right, since that is the date his album releases?

Also: I still don’t know when Kris and Allison’s singles get ads to the radio stations. Has this happened yet? If so, why haven’t I heard LLWD on mix in Boston, which is an HAC station and a big Kris supporter?

ETA:

Jim’s #1 is Kris, Slezak’s #1 is Allison (Slezak’s #2 is Kris)
And Lyndsey’s # 1 is Adam (who is her #2?). I am interested b/c they get a lot of hits on Twitter (though I think Slezak is best known b/c of Idolatry, followed by Cantiello b/c of MTV; I had never heard of Lyndsey until the end of the season).

Eh, he’s entitled to his opinion and I’m happy he found the Idol for him. Well, I guess second Idol for him, isn’t Allison his #1?

Jim’s #1 is Kris, Slezak’s #1 is Allison (Slezak’s #2 is Kris)

Ryan may luve Adam but don’t count on ever hearing TFM on his show. Ryan’s KISS show is almost completely urban

Oh I agree–I was talking about Adam’s own single for his CD. Ryan mentioning TFM is nice, though, but I wouldn’t expect him to play it. If Adam does release a dancier/poppier single, though, I think he might play that.

Has anyone here ever listened to Ryan’s KISS LA radio show? It’s 95% rap and hip hop. So I’m not sure what “having Adam’s back” means?
Ryan is doing his dj thing. Plus he doesn’t even pick the music they play on his own show. The PD picks it.

If Adam’s single fits the KISS format, they’ll play it. Ryan’s love for Adam means squat.

Boy, I must be odd person out. I sit through the credits whether at the movies or home on my DVD. Habit, I guess. Besides, I like to look for certain things: where the film was shot (Boy Canadian cities get used a ton), who played some of the peripheral characters whose names I can’t quite remember, and almost always to see the name of the songs and the singers for future reference when its time to buy new tunes.

sidewalkstory
October 12, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Eh, he’s entitled to his opinion and I’m happy he found the Idol for him. Well, I guess second Idol for him, isn’t Allison his #1?

Jim’s #1 is Kris, Slezak’s #1 is Allison (Slezak’s #2 is Kris)

That’s what I always thought too. But I thought the other day that Jim wrote that Allison was his favorite, because some people tweeted him about his change of heart…Maybe I’m misremembering.

ETA: yay, I didn’t misremember. From Jim’s story on Allison’s single “Allison Iraheta was my favorite “American Idol” contestant this past season. (Kris Allen fans just had a collective heart attack.)”

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/10/05/allison-irahetas-friday-ill-be-over-u-does-the-idol-rocker-deserve-better/

Q3 I get this but someone had to stay and hear song..Why nothing about it on the internet? There has to be a blog somewhere. (unless these two MTV employees where the only one’s at the screening? )’Is Anybody Listenin’ ?..

In the pre-internet world, in exchange for seeing the movie in advance of opening day (to meet their press deadlines), critics agree to hold their reviews until the movie has actually started showing to the paying public. But that isn’t usually the case anymore.

The studio work really hard to control the marketing of movies — including online marketing. When you attend early preview screenings you even have to remove and leave your mobile phone (even if there is no video recording capability) in the reception area. The studios they don’t want movies or unauthorized clips to leak online before the official release date.

Most people who go to advance screenings follow the PR schedule — they want to keep getting invited. And Sony has keep the lid on even online reviews of “2012″. And specifically in MTV’s case, they got to premier the first clip of “2012″ on 9/2/09 — so they will certainly play along.

Jim’s #1 is Kris, Slezak’s #1 is Allison (Slezak’s #2 is Kris)

Actually, Jim and Slezak have both said that Allison is their favorite–they have also both said that it’s a combination of loving her voice and goofy personality and feeling like promoting young, raw talent is what the show is supposed to be about.

Q3 I get this but someone had to stay and hear song..Why nothing about it on the internet?

My guess is that it’s because the people at the screening are professionals with a code of ethics. They aren’t supposed to leak ANYTHING.

ETA: “Has anyone here ever listened to Ryan’s KISS LA radio show? It’s 95% rap and hip hop.”

The KissFM format is Top 40. Urban dominates Top 40, therefore, it’s getting played. No KissFM station will play Adam or Kris until they hit the Billboard Top 40. Ryan is an attractive and powerful man (tm Gene Simmons) but even he can’t play whatever songs he wants on the station. However, if one of those guys hits Top 40, I have a feeling Ryan will give them as many spins as he can.

So I’m not sure what ‘having Adam’s back’  means?
Ryan is doing his dj thing. Plus he doesn’t even pick the music they play on his own show. The PD picks it.

To me, mentioning Adam in a positive way on air and tweeting about TFM a couple days ago account for something, that’s all I meant. Seacrest has a lot of followers, and it can’t hurt that all those followers are getting added exposure to Adam’s name.

Jim’s #1 is Kris, Slezak’s #1 is Allison (Slezak’s #2 is Kris)

Jim’s favorite is Allison. He’s been writing a lot about Kris lately, because, it’s his job.

this is both bizarre & hilarious at the same time– do you put this on display on a fireplace mantle or something, or do you find a way to hang it on your wall?

http://twitpic.com/l9yis

Though I wholeheartedly believe Jim meant no ill will in his original tweet. I also think by him answering the only negative tweets does give the impression that he is being bombarded by crazed fans which in turn leads people to assume that Adams fans are worst then Claymates. Why didn’t he acknowledge the tons of positive tweets he received in his defense.

This is the only problem I have with Jim C and his tweets. He only responded to the one negative tweet and thus, leads people to believe it is more – based on his Glambert references in the past. Tweet about the positive ones-gah!

Interesting about the previews of 2012 and no one has mentioned hearing the entire song? That makes no sense. Are we absolutely sure the full credits were shown and the song was even played? Someone said they are handed a packet with credits, so it is possible it was cut off at the end where the credits would start? I find it incredible that the entire song has been heard and NO ONE has tweeted or leaked.

BTW, I used to get up and leave when the credits started too; however, in recent years there have been a few movies that word got around if you sat through the credits you would get something added to the movie. One example I can remember is IronMan with RDowney, Jr. It was like a hint of the sequel. So, to make a short story long, I do sit through the credits many times and quietly chit chat with my movie partner until the very end.

EDIT: OK, Q3 has answered a bit of my question, but would it break the rules for someone to just tweet or write that they “heard the entire song” and it was great or it blows, whatever?

Speaking of Ryan…again, I may be totally mistaken here. I thought that Ryan’s show was recorded and then available for later play in markets outside of LA. I am sure that these stations aren’t all rap and hip-hop. I am sure just the DJ part is replayed and the stations fill in with their own adverts, music, and traffic and weather reports or am I totally clueless and coming from another dimension.

Zsus
October 12, 2009 at 2:22 pm

Q3 I get this but someone had to stay and hear song..Why nothing about it on the internet?

My guess is that it’s because the people at the screening are professionals with a code of ethics. They aren’t supposed to leak ANYTHING.

Or maybe *gasp* they didn’t even care about the song. Most people who go to a move don’t care about the song that’s played over the credits. A song typically gets no mention at all unless it’s an integral part of the movie. Hell most don’t stay for the credits.

Tess, you are not the odd person out. I always stay through the credits, as do my friends, as do most people in Manhattan. For the same reasons as you. I suppose it may be the type of movie that makes a diff too. I doubt too many people are staying for the summer fare movies or when they bring their kids to the movies.

Oh, I also like to know if there are stand-ins or if the main character does his/her own stunts.

Tess
October 12, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Speaking of Ryan’ ¦again, I may be totally mistaken here. I thought that Ryan’s show was recorded and then available for later play in markets outside of LA. I am sure that these stations aren’t all rap and hip-hop. I am sure just the DJ part is replayed and the stations fill in with their own adverts, music, and traffic and weather reports or am I totally clueless and coming from another dimension.

It is syndicated and plays here in Albuquerque in the afternoons. I always assumed however, that the whole show is broadcast intact including the songs. I know that the commercials are local, but Ryan often comments on the song that was just played, so I think the show with the exception of the commercials is the same.

I think Ryan will play TfM, it may not be in his top 40, but I think he will find a way to play it on his show.

ETA: The only time I listen to Ryan is during the syndicated top 40 that plays on Kiss in Boston, I don’t listen to his daily show.

mj
October 12, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Jim’s #1 is Kris, Slezak’s #1 is Allison (Slezak’s #2 is Kris)

Jim’s favorite is Allison. He’s been writing a lot about Kris lately, because, it’s his job.

Not to disagree, but I have to here. Jim isn’t just writing about Kris as much as he does, does all the Krim stuff in this Tweet Beats, has the mock fights with Slezak about Kris, because it’s just his job. As Jim himself said in one of his many squeeing fanboi interviews, he just likes Kris and that’s cool. Jim enjoys Kris’s music and personality and is in a position to indulge that liking, so cool. Jim also disses people because he personally doesn’t care for their music/personality and that’s fine because that too is an allowance made in his job to be his snarky funny self as well as be his fanboi self. To be clear, I do NOT think Jim dissed Adam in that Tweet about TfM. That’s just crazy talk to me, honestly.

But the stuff with Kris at this point isn’t just because Jim is being paid to care about the Idols, it’s because he likes Kris. And that’s fine. As you said, Jim also like Allison, she was as he stated when reviewing her single, his favourite (before Kris). So not like he can’t like more than one person at a time, or that he can’t be a fanboi as part of his job.

Hey people who know stuff: when can we expect Allison’s single to be available for download again?

This is the only problem I have with Jim C and his tweets. He only responded to the one negative tweet and thus, leads people to believe it is more ‘“ based on his Glambert references in the past. Tweet about the positive ones-gah

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I do wish he hadn’t done that–but on the other hand, I don’t think many people care.

I am still not sure about his Cavallo collaboration. He has produced some great records but what the heck happeded with Cook last year?

Well, for me, I don’t like Nickelback, and I think the CD came out sounding like that a bit based on what I’ve heard. But Cook’s voice and style naturally lead that way anyway, and it’s not for me personally, but that’s just a matter of personal preference (it really, really is just a matter of personal preference, there is no insult meant here).

Whereas Cavallo’s work with My Chemical Romance and GreenDay has been excellent, and I think that since Adam is apparently working on “glam rock” rather than commercial rock with him, and Adam’s voice and style don’t remotely lend themselves to Nickelback, I think this collaboration could be awesome.

And while overproduction is still a concern, of course, glam rock is so much about the voice that I think the chances of this are lessened (not erased at all, but lessened).

In regards to this whole Jim C hidden agenda/no agenda tweet. IMHO all bloggers, critics, a even posters share their opinions based on there perception. First I would like to say that Jim C, Slezak, Rushfield and even our MJ (my favorite) must be doing something right as they all have jobs and all produce traffic to their sites (with integrity I might add). Second short of President Obama or Oprah, no one really has that much power to persuade 330 million people to not like someone or buy their music. If someone is good and talented or strikes a chord with an certain audience (Miley Cyrus anyone?) They will do well regardless of any negative comment from a journalist or blogger. In the words of his Fierceness “It ain’t that deep”

Jim and Slezak don’t always love the winners/people who get signed, but this year they genuinely love Kris, Adam, and Allison and have written tremendously nice things about all of them. Fans should just be happy about that.

Bloggers’ (imo Jim is more a blogger than a report or serious music reviewer, Slezak is more of the latter category) collective view may reflect and/or affect public view. Individual blogger’s no so much. The more I read their articles the less I care about their opinions. They offer their perspectives fwiw.

This year Danny took most of the hatred (as least in Slezak’s case) which imo was not fair to him because he is a really good singer judged from my tour experience.

I don’t know what you do with a signed ice cream tub, but around here that Slow Churned brand is sold as Edy’s (not Dreyers) and it’s really yummy for a lower fat ice cream treat (there are always several in my freezer)!

lol. But I don’t think you saw the pic’s from his perf last night.

Pictures don’t tell the whole story. I was at the performance last night. Cassidy looks feminine in pics but in person he is more masculine than feminine, his speaking voice is not feminine and even while on stage did not come across as feminine in the way he moved or performed.

This is the only problem I have with Jim C and his tweets. He only responded to the one negative tweet and thus, leads people to believe it is more ‘“ based on his Glambert references in the past. Tweet about the positive ones-gah!

He responded to the person who tweeted him. Jim DIDN’T retweet his response. In other words, the only people who saw it were: 1. The sixteen people who follow both the negative twitterer AND Jim, 2. People who run searches on @adamlambert (those would be Adam fans). 3. Peeps running a search on @jambajim.

The tweet did NOT go out to all of Jim’s followers.

And again, as a blogger, I know how hard it is not to respond to negative tweets. I’ve done it, but I now try to refrain. Tweeters who barrage me with negative tweets get blocked.

Carrie Underwood: ‘Mama’s Song’ Lyrics!
http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/10/12/carrie-underwood-preview-mamas-song/

Archuleta’s Holiday Cheer Express
http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2009/10/12/693329.aspx

I think Ryan will play TfM, it may not be in his top 40, but I think he will find a way to play it on his show.

I think so, too, Squirrely. Also, I listen to the Top 40 pretty frequently, and it’s not all rap and hip-hop. I would say it’s mainly pop and rap, but there’s a blend, which is why, since I appreciate a ton of different kinds of music, I listen to it. I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that TFM would show up on his show or, at the very least, mentioned again and linked on his website. Since Adam’s single could very well wind up something completely appropriate for Ryan’s audience, I think it’s great that he’s kind of begun his promotion of Adam.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Adam was on and Ryan played TFM one time. I think he had Kris on and played LLYD. For the first and only time no doubt. But I guess Ryan supporting you on Twitter means something too.

I rarely stay for the credits and laughed when someone posted a tweet about New York critics not staying for credits. I’m usually stepping on people’s toes leaving the theatre. I’m in such a rush.

Hey people who know stuff: when can we expect Allison’s single to be available for download again?

I don’t know stuff, but the original date of Oct. 20th is what I’ve read. And yeah, Jive really messed up that roll-out. Weird.

Bloggers’ (imo Jim is more a blogger than a report or serious music reviewer, Slezak is more of the latter category) collective view may reflect and/or affect public view. Individual blogger’s no so much. The more I read their articles the less I care about their opinions. They offer their perspectives fwiw.

This year Danny took most of the hatred (as least in Slezak’s case) which imo was not fair to him because he is a really good singer judged from my tour experience

Oh, I wasn’t talking about bloggers’/critics’ opinions and what they’re worth–just saying that Slezak and Jim genuinely seem to love and respect Kris, Adam, and Allison musically and as people, which is nice.

Probably shouldn’t rehash the season, but I think Slezak’s negative attitude towards Danny had a lot more to do with him not liking Danny’s attitude or the unfair pimping he got than his voice (which is good, yeah–I don’t think he’s as interesting as Adam, Allison, or Kris, but he has a good voice).

I remember Slezak saying that Danny, Lil, and Adam went into the season as the hyped chosen ones–and that only Adam actually lived up to the hype in terms of his talent and performance ability.

He responded to the person who tweeted him. Jim DIDN’T retweet his response. In other words, the only people who saw it were: 1. The sixteen people who follow the negative twitterer, 2. People who run searches on @adamlambert (those would be Adam fans). 3. Peeps running a search on @jambajim.

I agree with your interpretation on Jim’s intentions,so it’s no big deal but, also:

4) Anyone who goes to @jambajim to read his tweets. Which, for someone with modest fame, is a fair amount of people.

hoosiermama
October 12, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I don’t know what you do with a signed ice cream tub, but around here that Slow Churned brand is sold as Edy’s (not Dreyers) and it’s really yummy for a lower fat ice cream treat (there are always several in my freezer)!

Dreyers on the west coast,Edy’s on the east coast.Same company,edy’s is the candy company that dreyers first used long ago.Its really just like pushed air in it(more to it then that)but pick a slow churned up and a regular up big wieght difference.The idol flavors are really good.

From AdamOfficial.com

Adam is shown on Japanese flyer for “2012″.
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*The flyer said in Japanese
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*translated into English
The ending theme “Time For Miracles” is sung by Adam Lambert ,who is a large-scale new singer, will make his U.S. debut in same November as the movie release.
He has already been a nationally popular singer since he appeared on popular audition program “American idol” (previous season). There is no doubt that he will become the latest craze, like “2012″!
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Those pics are here:

http://twitpic.com/l9iai
http://twitpic.com/l9idj

I’m heading out but hopefully someone will be listening to Kris’ radio interview at http://www.wkrq.com/ that starts in 17 minutes and recapping it for us?

http://blog.wkrq.com/index.php?blog=9

I don’t know stuff, but the original date of Oct. 20th is what I’ve read. And yeah, Jive really messed up that roll-out. Weird.

Aw, thanks Truthiness! I’m kicking myself for not getting it when it was first available, but I suppose it’s all for the better so as to not add to the mess up Allison’s sales numbers.

steve
October 12, 2009 at 2:43 pm

hoosiermama
October 12, 2009 at 2:36 pm
I don’t know what you do with a signed ice cream tub, but around here that Slow Churned brand is sold as Edy’s (not Dreyers) and it’s really yummy for a lower fat ice cream treat (there are always several in my freezer)!

Dreyers on the west coast,Edy’s on the east coast.Same company,edy’s is the candy company that dreyers first used long ago.Its really just like pushed air in it(more to it then that)but pick a slow churned up and a regular up big wieght difference.The idol flavors are really good.

Yup it’s the same as Hellman’s and Best Foods Mayonnaise. The name depends on where you are. It’s still premium stuff.

Truthiness
October 12, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Hey people who know stuff: when can we expect Allison’s single to be available for download again?

I don’t know stuff, but the original date of Oct. 20th is what I’ve read. And yeah, Jive really messed up that roll-out. Weird.

That’s the same rumored date for the release of Time For Miracles, right?

I wouldn’t be surprised if Adam was on and Ryan played TFM one time. I think he had Kris on and played LLYD. For the first and only time no doubt. But I guess Ryan supporting you on Twitter means something too.

Yeah, this. The station Ryan is based from is Top 40/Rhythmic. They are a pop station that makes up its playlist from the pop, rhythmic and urban charts. Stations like this play almost no rock. None. Zip. Nada. A rock song has to be hhhhuuuggggeeeee before they play it. And even then, they still might not.

So even if Ryan likes Adam, the chances of TFM making some kind of regular rotation on Ryan’s syndicated show is almost nil.

Now Adam’s pop release… if it really is electronica/dance leaning, that will be right up Ryan’s alley.

Jim’s #1 is Kris, Slezak’s #1 is Allison (Slezak’s #2 is Kris)

Allison is both Jim and Slezak’s favorite idol contestant. Both of them have man crush on Kris. They both didn’t get Adam early during the competition (if any later on).

I wouldn’t be surprised if Adam was on and Ryan played TFM one time. I think he had Kris on and played LLYD. For the first and only time no doubt. But I guess Ryan supporting you on Twitter means something too.

And on his website and mentioning him today on the top 40 along with Michael Jackson. He’ll get some Ryan pimpage, Ryan pimps the heck out of those he like ie Miley Cyrus.

This year Danny took most of the hatred (as least in Slezak’s case) which imo was not fair to him because he is a really good singer judged from my tour experience.

We have different tour experiences.

Danny got plenty of criticism that was deserved: the dead wife, the pimping, his lack of music knowledge, his dancing, his poor performances such as his scream. Let’s not go there.

suebrody: Is TFM playing at the end of the movie in its entirety but only available for screenings? And will the single be available for download this Friday? I seriously cannot keep these dates in mind, I just can’t. And I assume Adam could sing any song (tho he will probably sing the single) from his album at GMA, right, since that is the date his album releases?

Yes, TfM is played as the first song over the credits in it’s entirety.

No offical dates for the release of TfM have been announced.

All that I can find is Amazon which shows an “Original Release Date” of 10/16/09 and an on-sale date of 10/20/09. Amazon’s “Original Release Date” is the first date that a song is for sale.

So the two dates make no sense unless the song will be released somewhere else for sale on 10/16/09.

Two possible explanations:

1. Amazon made a mistake on the dates and will eventually fix it. (This happens.)

2. The song will be released on iTune on 10/16/09 and Amazon on 10/20/09.

If anyone has any idea what is going on, I would love to know. Also, all these secret Adam dates are really “crazymaking”. It is an odd, but effective, what to drive marketing buzz.

Regarding GMA — it should be a 3 or 4 song set — maybe the album single, TfM and a couple others. Don’t they usually air 2 or 3 songs and put bonus songs online?

A question for people who know things about radio…. Are adds controlled by the corporate station owner on a corporate level or a local level?

For example, my local HAC station has played LLWD a few times – at least 1 of which wasn’t by my request or the nightly ‘new music challenge’ However, I noticed they did not add the song today. I’m guessing they won’t since their add of Paparazzi is already listed on the Mediabase add board. They are owned by CBS Radio. I happened to notice when I checked that none of the stations that added LLWD are owned by CBS. Will they all start coming en masse at some point? Or will they trickle in as individual stations get positive local feedback or hit a certain play count?

2. The song will be released on iTune on 10/16/09 and Amazon on 10/20/09.

Is it possible TFM will be released as a single on 10/16 and the whole soundtrack album will be released on 10/20?

edit: Are you saying the same thing? I brought this up the other day and no one seemed to bite.

… but would it break the rules for someone to just tweet or write that they ‘heard the entire song’  and it was great or it blows, whatever?

One critic who saw a 2012 preview already tweeted he liked the song — didn’t mention the movie. It was after the Jackson Hole screening.

The radio adds for LLWD likely won’t all show up online today, especially because it’s a holiday.

Q3, I thought that what we had was confusion between two meanings of the word “release”. That is, on October 16, TFM will be released, as it were, into the wild – played in its entirely on some radio station or website, and available for play. On October 20th, the song will be released for sale, hopefully after a weekend of people hearing it on their radios.

I’m more concerned as to what this means for Adam’s album single.

As for Ryan playing TFM, he doesn’t have control of his station’s playlist, since he’s not the rogram director.

HOWEVER, he has played LLWD at least once that I know of since he interviewed Kris, so it’s possible he would try and play TFM at least once after he does the interview thing with Adam (if he even has Adam on — do we know if he’s even going to do that?).

LLWD is more suited than TFM for that station’s playlist — although Allison’s single is the one actually best suited to the station’s format. So I would expect Ryan to play Allison’s single way more than he does LLWD or TFM

Ryan likes Adam, but he also likes Kris and many of the other Idols. So I wouldn’t expect Ryan to suddenly become this vocal cheerleader for Adam.

Kris is supposed to be on Q102 in about 5 minutes

They are playing The Script’s “Breakeven” right now!
(I love this song, BTW)
This station is advertised the Bosom Ball on their website, so I expect they will be asking Kris about this gig (The Script is also performing at this gig)

http://www.wkrq.com/

Just remember that the writers being invited to the pre-screenings of 2012 are movie critics or movie reviewers and that is their job…not to listen to a song sung over the ending credits. Besides, these guys are probably given a packet with all of the bios from the stars, interesting stats about the movie, lists of dates and distribution. Their focus is so far removed from ours, by the end of the movie they were already probably mentally writing their pieces and nothing was penetrating.

Besides, they were probably in a big rush to get back out to the punch bowl and the hors d’oeuvres.

JoJo who is another KISS DJ is very good friends with Elliott Yamin. But he still didn’t play his second single because the PD controls all music played on the radio.

And I agree that Ryan is a nice guy who generally supports all the Idol folk.

They just said Kris is going to be on next — after this BEP song

http://www.wkrq.com/

Kris is next for interview in a couple of minutes on http://den-a.plr.liquidcompass.net/cust/WKRQFM/audio_player.php?id=WKRQFM&playerType=silverlight

Ryan is a kiss-ass and wouldn’t do anything to annoy his producers.

Regarding KISS FM and Ryan playing LLWD and TfM. LLWD was played as part of a label-sponsored promo event. If RCA does a TfM promo with KISS FM, Ryan will play that, too. And there are a couple of claims that one KISS FM station in North Carolina play the TfM clip on the air. I do not know if it is true, but I could see a PD adding TfM to the KISS playlist — particurly so the South-mid South stations can play it — because the KISS mix varies across the country based on regional taste and TfM has Country cross-over potential IMHO.

sidewalkstory

Q3: 2. The song will be released on iTune on 10/16/09 and Amazon on 10/20/09.

Is it possible TFM will be released as a single on 10/16 and the whole soundtrack album will be released on 10/20?

The 2012 Soundtrack will be released for sale on November 10, 2009. That is in an official Sony press release, the 2012 press kit and on Amazon.

The TfM single is the one with the strange release date. And I can’t find anything else like it on Amazon US — although I have not looked at every Amazon MP3 to check.

Based on some of the stories I’ve read about people trying to get in only to be rejected, I really doubt anyone was actually able to sneak in. They probably knew someone who knew someone. I think some people like that feeling of ‘getting away with something’  and think it makes a more exciting story to tell. At Rosemont, the concert I attended, security was in full force, so I really doubt anyone could have sneaked back stage or wherever it was they held the friends/family meet & greet.

Ah
Okay good to know

4) Anyone who goes to @jambajim to read his tweets. Which, for someone with modest fame, is a fair amount of people.

True. (personally, I rarely do that) But, he wasn’t broadcasting the reply for the world to see. He was responding, personally, to a tweeter. It was a knee jerk reaction. We all do it.

That interview was a fail for me–didn’t find out anything about the Bosom Ball playlist or anything really new. Wasn’t Kris’ fault so much as the questions asked. Was it recorded today and he said “we’re still trying to write a couple more songs”???? The 15th is this Thursday! And the Ball is this Thursday! So much to do and only got the usual questions about Paula, the night of the finale. Geez. Oh, Kris would be a baseball player in his dream job (other than making music)–is that new?

I thought he did sound excited about the album, though…

mamadeb: Q3, I thought that what we had was confusion between two meanings of the word ‘release’ . That is, on October 16, TFM will be released, as it were, into the wild ‘“ played in its entirely on some radio station or website, and available for play. On October 20th, the song will be released for sale, hopefully after a weekend of people hearing it on their radios.

I must be missing something. Amazon doesn’t post radio release dates, their release date is always the on-sale release date. Why whould they change it just for Adam?

The simplest explanation is that it is wrong — just like the Amazon UK release date for Adam Lambert “TBC” of 12/7/09 which was just wrong.

Well, for me, I don’t like Nickelback, and I think the CD came out sounding like that a bit based on what I’ve heard. But Cook’s voice and style naturally lead that way anyway, and it’s not for me personally, but that’s just a matter of personal preference (it really, really is just a matter of personal preference, there is no insult meant here).

Not that I’m ready to villify Cavallo for DC’s album, but supposedly, the guy’s biggest sellling point is that he’s reputedly great at tapping into an artist’s authentic sound. For me, he didn’t do that for DC too much. He did for a few songs, but not for the album overall. If you listened to DC’s 2006 solo record, Analog Heart, and his run of performances on AI, which are the two most recent “bodies of work” we have to judge DC’s sound prior to the record, he sounded nothing like Nickelback, IMO. I always found his AI and AH stuff to be a lot more Alternative Rock, as was the MWK stuff (though he didn’t front that band, so I guess we can’t really say it represents his sound either). Not saying I think DC’s current record sounds like Nickelback, because I actually don’t (though I can see people saying that about Light On, even though IMO Light On is better than Nickelback’s stuff.) but nonetheless, Cavallo seemed to have zapped some of DC’s uniqueness on the record, and made the music blander/more middle of the road than it needed to be. I dunno, not sure what happened. I feel like it was a case of too many compromises stifling creativity.

damn.im fianlly done.I think Jim gate is non existent.same with kris’s friend.and Adam and drake.probably blown waaay out of proportions.shit at the AMA thingbeing at 9:30.now I know what ill be thinking about during gym.I think kris’s fans re more casual.ummm what else?oh I knew about Lyndsey b4 cantiello or slezak but ymmv.I don’t see how all of a sudden “RYAN LOOOOVES ADAM!!! ” becuz he mentioned him on his radio show.big deal.and no way in hell is tfm being played on top 40,maybe adam’s first single will be though.and kris’s excitement tweet frm yesterday was sad.I know weezeer becuz of Beverly hills.I accidentally deleted it:( but 4 a while everyone I knew had it on their iPods. my tech Ed techer plays music during class and beverly hills is on all.the.time.I really wish Aimee gets her song chosen. I’ll probably buy it because I FLOVE allison but don’t rrly like Friday I’ll be over u.waaaay too much Disney pop.it seems demi or Selena -ish. hell I would be okay with it if it was kinda mild disney pop like read between the lines but its..bad.

I must be missing something. Amazon doesn’t post radio release dates, their release date is always the on-sale release date. Why whould they change it just for Adam?

Okay. That makes sense. I don’t buy a lot of music, and fewer singles, so this is all new to me.

Maybe I don’t get it, but why would we care about some random movie reviewer’s opinion of TfM? If we don’t know the source, what difference does the opinion make?

Going back to lurking now.

just listen to Kris; I think overtime he became more fluid with his speech. Pretty much the same questions as usual.. I knew he likes baseball but didn’t know it would have been his dream job beside music

Adam’s green arrow is back on Amazon – I wonder how high it will take him. Currently he’s number 8

kt_cle: A question for people who know things about radio’ ¦. Are adds controlled by the corporate station owner on a corporate level or a local level?

The radio playlists are controlled by Program Directors (PDs). Almost all major radio stations in the US are part of networks — often with many different genres of radio stations. For the networks, a corporate PD is responsible for the playlists for all stations within each genre.

Record labels create promotions with radio stations to get them to play specific songs. Without these promotions, most songs don’t get airplay.

There are only a handful of independent music stations left on FM radio and then there are the college stations which are very important to independent artists and Jazz artists.

There’s release dates that the world can hear it. There’s release dates that the world (or at least part of it) can buy it. There’s release dates that it goes for radio adds. Not one has a single thing to do with the other. Even if it does, dates are typically different.In other words, nothing that comes before extrapolates to anything that may or may not come later. It’s all a guessing game. I happen to think they like it that way.

The interview they aired was lame — more old questions about winning Idol and about Paula leaving.

This is the longer interview they put up on the website, that actually asks him about his single and album.

I think this interview was recorded awhile ago, because he’s talking about still writing more for the album and saying he had “a couple weeks” to finish it up.

http://blog.wkrq.com/index.php?blog=9&p=2225&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Bob has RETURNED!!!! Yeah, Yippee for Bob (does Happy Dance!!) then slinks away…..no life…..

But the stuff with Kris at this point isn’t just because Jim is being paid to care about the Idols, it’s because he likes Kris. And that’s fine

I agree with Truthiness. I have followed every second of AI seasons 2-8. I buy cds and go to the summer concerts. I had never heard of Slezak or Jim C. until this year. I just don’t think they have much influence outside of the bubble.(However, One tweet from Ryan reaches over 2 million people and he does seem to have a great deal of influence over radio listeners.) I do think Jim is a fanboy of Kris and is a “liittle” over the top. It doesn’t seem to be helping sales any. But maybe that’s not his goal. Maybe he just loves to write,talk, and tweet about Kris.

The vids from peeps showing adam-mates going nuts on peeps leaving before the credits run.Will be SO GREAT.

I plan on packin’ a gun (I live in Memphis-It’s no bigee here) and sittin’ on the front row. When people start to leave, I’m standing up and shouting, “Sit back down you Mother F@#%&*s and listen to the Glittery Alien sing!
I’m bad like that.

I knew he likes baseball but didn’t know it would have been his dream job beside music

He said this before in a tour interview iirc. I’m not a Kris fan the last time I checked. damn, I do have tons of RL things to do…

@tiger92

I plan on packin’ a gun (I live in Memphis-It’s no bigee here) and sittin’ on the front row. When people start to leave, I’m standing up and shouting, ‘Sit back down you Mother F@#%&*s and listen to the Glittery Alien sing!
I’m bad like that.

Busted out laughin’! — love it. just love it.

Squirrely: Adam’s green arrow is back on Amazon ‘“ I wonder how high it will take him. Currently he’s number 8

16 days! Of course, SuBo is back up to #4. I just don’t get it.

BTW Adam Lambert TBD is still #1 on BestBuy.com preorder chart. Also up two places on Barnes and Noble best sellers to #13. I guess that TfM might be responsible.

I plan on packin’ a gun (I live in Memphis-It’s no bigee here) and sittin’ on the front row. When people start to leave, I’m standing up and shouting, ‘Sit back down you Mother F@#%&*s and listen to the Glittery Alien sing!
I’m bad like that.

lol

is the deluxe album being released on November 24 too?!

Cavallo seemed to have zapped some of DC’s uniqueness on the record, and made the music blander/more middle of the road than it needed to be. I dunno, not sure what happened. I feel like it was a case of too many compromises stifling creativity.

I thought noctem seizure had a really good post last night (in the David Cook video thread?) about Cavallo and how they orginally blamed Cavallo for blanding David, but after checking out some of the rejected songs and from some things David Cook said, that they didn’t feel that Cavallo was really the source of those compromises.

I personally would tend to think that the compromises are the normal ones of the label and 19 wanting to be as safe and commerically viable as possible, than of Cavallo personally per se, but that’s just my layman’s view of it.

ugh g2g have homework…

I plan on packin’ a gun (I live in Memphis-It’s no bigee here) and sittin’ on the front row. When people start to leave, I’m standing up and shouting, ‘Sit back down you Mother F@#%&*s and listen to the Glittery Alien sing!
I’m bad like that.

First. you gotta get people to go to keep them there…I mean, if nobody’s there, the gun will seem like so much overplay…

@thedavidcook I’m not a rams fan, but if rush limbaugh gets any ownership of that franchise, it’ll be a sad day for everyone.

This is another reason why I totally love him and feel everybody should.

I plan on packin’ a gun (I live in Memphis-It’s no bigee here) and sittin’ on the front row. When people start to leave, I’m standing up and shouting, ‘Sit back down you Mother F@#%&*s and listen to the Glittery Alien sing!
I’m bad like that.

You’re scaring me. Lil better watch out.

@tiger92: I plan on packin’ a gun (I live in Memphis-It’s no bigee here) and sittin’ on the front row. When people start to leave, I’m standing up and shouting, ‘Sit back down you Mother F@#%&*s and listen to the Glittery Alien sing!
I’m bad like that.

LMAO!

I live a couple of hours from Memphis — maybe we better synch movie viewing so I can watch your back. (Everybody in Mississippi has a gun — and I need my AK47s to hunt deer and just in case Mississippi is ever invaded. Just kidding I really don’t shoot Bambi just skeet, trap shooting and sporting clays — I’m a vegetarian anyway!)

Actually, I’m planning to go into the theater early, when the last show is just ending so I can hear Adam twice — once before the movie and once at the end of my showing.

luvadamlambert
October 12, 2009 at 3:18 pm
damn.im fianlly done.I think Jim gate is non existent.same with kris’s friend.and Adam and drake.probably blown waaay out of proportions

Ahhh, Luvie. You are so smart. Are you sure you’re only 12?

I plan on packin’ a gun (I live in Memphis-It’s no bigee here) and sittin’ on the front row. When people start to leave, I’m standing up and shouting, ‘Sit back down you Mother F@#%&*s and listen to the Glittery Alien sing!
I’m bad like that.

LMAO! Sound like Samuel L Jackson

wow, Q3, that is a great idea, I never thought of watch the ending of the last show b4 my showing.

I will probably do that, too!

Thanks for the awesome tip!

would it break the rules for someone to just tweet or write that they ‘heard the entire song’  and it was great or it blows, whatever?

Well, actually we did get one, from one of the people who attended the Jackson Hole press junket:

ThatChrisGore: @Irishgal719 Yes. It’s beautiful and hopeful. Very fitting.
9:11 PM Oct 8th from Echofon in reply to Irishgal719

(and to someone who asked for a leak)
ThatChrisGore: @adamisalamb Can’t. Phone were confiscated at door. Also, I’m an ethical guy. I cannot do that.
10:52 PM Oct 8th from Echofon in reply to adamisalamb

Q3 I think I’ll do the same! Once before and once after. So are some stations adding Kris’s song today and others are not-because it’s a holiday? So do stations shut down on random holidays. Random holiday to me cause I’m at work today. THe only way I knew it was a holiday was b/c the bank was closed and I NEEDED to get there.

hothothot i…think….so…

SOOO I’ll ask again is the deluxe album coming out on the 24th??!!!

‘Sit back down you Mother F@#%&*s and listen to the Glittery Alien sing!

so why did pulp fiction just pop into my mind? Amanda Plummer at her best.

eta: to add http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_58YdwEKkZY&feature=related

mj
October 12, 2009 at 3:13 pm

4) Anyone who goes to @jambajim to read his tweets. Which, for someone with modest fame, is a fair amount of people.

True. (personally, I rarely do that) But, he wasn’t broadcasting the reply for the world to see. He was responding, personally, to a tweeter. It was a knee jerk reaction. We all do it.

But aren’t Journalist and Bloggers suppose to be superrhuman and not fallible to the frailties of human error and emotion? (J/K)

Well, actually we did get one, from one of the people who attended the Jackson Hole press junket:

ThatChrisGore: @Irishgal719 Yes. It’s beautiful and hopeful. Very fitting.
9:11 PM Oct 8th from Echofon in reply to Irishgal719

Ah, ok. I missed that thread I guess. I certainly understand not recording it and leaking it, but it surprised me that no one had even mentioned hearing it. Thanks guys.

nothing was ever here *shifty eyes*

Here are 2 more show additions at DCO. One of the dates is the first December date on the schedule:

Nov 28 (Sat) 8:00 PM (Orlando, FL)
HARD ROCK CAFE ORLANDO
Special Guests: The Script and Green River Ordinance

Dec 01 (Tue) 8:00 PM (Charlotte, NC)
THE FILLMORE CHARLOTTE
Special Guests: The Script and Green River Ordinance

You’re scaring me. Lil better watch out.

LOL. Lil would be yelling “sit the %$#!* down” too! She loves Adam.

Wow, DC tweeted about Limbaugh? Ooh, is that a hint of controversy from Mr. PC?

I thought noctem seizure had a really good post last night (in the David Cook video thread?) about Cavallo and how they orginally blamed Cavallo for blanding David, but after checking out some of the rejected songs and from some things David Cook said, that they didn’t feel that Cavallo was really the source of those compromises.

I personally would tend to think that the compromises are the normal ones of the label and 19 wanting to be as safe and commerically viable as possible, than of Cavallo personally per se, but that’s just my layman’s view of it.

I saw noctem’s post. I kinda disagree that the snippets are an indication that Cavallo did a good job. I don’t think the 20-30 second snippets are enough to tell me definitely that all those songs sucked balls. I happen to think a lot of them sounded like they would suck (though, c’mon, unfinished), but a couple had potential. Who knows. Secondly, I don’t think the SONGS themselves on DCTR are that bland, because so many of them kick ass live, but the PRODUCTION of the recordings made the songs all sound really bland and similar to each other, when listening to the album as a whole. So for that, I do think Cavallo may be culpable. Though the rush job and the label wanting a more commercial sound may have factored in more, I dunno.

Actually, I’m planning to go into the theater early, when the last show is just ending so I can hear Adam twice ‘” once before the movie and once at the end of my showing.

Oh you must be a Glambert… what a crazy over the top thing to do….( Que: Time for Miracles snippet plays again on my Itunes for the 3000th time since Friday)

Do you think he heard the whole thing or the snippet?

michaelsarver1 So I finaly got to hear #timeformiracles. What a song and an artist. @adamlambert I’m proud of u man. Way..To..Be!!

Recently I sat at least for the first song. The habit began with there being some extra scenes after credits, but now even if I don’t expect extra scene I’ll sit for a while to see the credits and listen to the music and kinda pay respect to the behind-the-scene artists and workers. I usually didn’t remember songs during movies (with the exceptions such as ‘Watchman’) but I found myself pay attention and enjoy some of the credit music. The background while credits are rolling sometimes is creative and fun to watch too.

I jut went to iTunes and I like David cook’s album.

butwhat is DCTR?
probably stupid but I’ve never beena David fan(either of them) except for crush and I ADORE the gma little lies…

Do you think he heard the whole thing or the snippet?

So I finaly got to hear #timeformiracles. What a song and an artist. @adamlambert I’m proud of u man. Way..To..Be!!

who? and I think he means fianlly…

Actually, I’m planning to go into the theater early, when the last show is just ending so I can hear Adam twice ‘” once before the movie and once at the end of my showing.

Oh! Q3, that’s brilliant! I’m stealing that idea, for sure.
(Okay, now I gotta run listen to the snippet again to see if it has changed from the other 17,000 times I’ve listened to it…)

Sorry I edited my post. that tweet was from Michael Sarver.

So I finaly got to hear #timeformiracles. What a song and an artist. @adamlambert I’m proud of u man. Way..To..Be!!

Who said it?

Nov 28 (Sat) 8:00 PM (Orlando, FL)
HARD ROCK CAFE ORLANDO
Special Guests: The Script and Green River Ordinance

Hmm. How to justify a stop in Orlando on a trip to Naples to see grandma…

butwhat is DCTR?

David Cook The Record, in message board speak

butwhat is DCTR?

DCTR is David Cook The Record.

@tiger92

“I plan on packin’ a gun (I live in Memphis-It’s no bigee here) and sittin’ on the front row. When people start to leave, I’m standing up and shouting, ‘Sit back down you Mother F@#%&*s and listen to the Glittery Alien sing!
I’m bad like that.

Busted out laughin’! ‘” love it. just love it.”

I just got back from a two week vacation where I was mostly out of computer range. I read the above of fell off my chair laughing.

SO GOOD TO BE BACK AMOUNG THE PLANET FIERCE GLITTERY ALIEN WORSHIPERS!!!!

jambajim My much-delayed thoughts on “Build Some Love” and “Time For Miracles” on the way. 1 fan-base will be all 1 will not. U might be surprised
2 minutes ago from web

So I finaly got to hear #timeformiracles. What a song and an artist. @adamlambert I’m proud of u man. Way..To..Be!!

By the way, this is from Sarver’s last tweet. He also tweeted that he was heading home from his hunting trip a day early. (I’m guessing that he could wait no longer to listen to the snippet)

Squirrely
October 12, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Sorry I edited my post. that tweet was from Michael Sarver.

How nice of him. Michael Sarver has certainly been very supportive of Adam over twitter.

This was exactly what Rob Cavallo said in EW:

”There was always a dialogue between the A&R guys and David and myself,” says Rob Cavallo, the noted rock producer (Green Day’s American Idiot, among others) who oversaw Cook’s album. ”We were trying to strike the right balance between something 100 percent true to David as an artist, and at the same time satisfying all the supposed needs or desires of the cougar set, or whatever you want to call it. Or,” he corrects himself, backing up over the C-word, ”I should just say his Idol audience ‘” that’s the best way to say it.”

While I’m hoping for a different producer for the next CD I’d be interested in hearing what sound he would try and go for while being a little further away from the AI audience.

Wow, DC tweeted about Limbaugh? Ooh, is that a hint of controversy from Mr. PC?

Eh, he’s usually very diplomatic when it comes to all sorts of stuff (who’s your favorite contestant, what do u think of this or that celebrity controversey, etc.), but I think he’s got his buttons just like everyone else and Limbaugh does tend to push many at once — for a lot of people. I still recall DC speaking out against Prop 8 last year right around the time his album was being released, so I don’t really think he’s diplomatic because he doesn’t want to be controversial. He seems pretty laid back about most things, but doesn’t seem to have problems about speaking out about stuff he cares about when the opportunity arises.

@thedavidcook I’m not a rams fan, but if rush limbaugh gets any ownership of that franchise, it’ll be a sad day for everyone.

This is another reason why I totally love him and feel everybody should.

100% agree. He would lose any shred of credibility if he were a Rams fan.

jambajim My much-delayed thoughts on ‘Build Some Love’  and ‘Time For Miracles’  on the way. 1 fan-base will be all 1 will not. U might be surprised

This is easy, he’s not feeling the JC song for Kris. I don’t think it’s a Kris song either.

@tiger92

‘I plan on packin’ a gun (I live in Memphis-It’s no bigee here) and sittin’ on the front row. When people start to leave, I’m standing up and shouting, ‘Sit back down you Mother F@#%&*s and listen to the Glittery Alien sing!
I’m bad like that.

OMG, in the words of the Patridge Family, I think I love you.

LMAO.

I just heard LLWD on Z100 NY. I never listen to that station but I’ll sweep past it every once in a while on the off chance they’re playing something I want to hear. The dj said, “coming up, Kris Allen and Lady GaGa, but first, non tweeting Miley”. I got out of the car, did my errands, when I got back in, Kris was on!. In all the years I’ve watched idol, it’s the first time I’ve heard my “fav” on the radio. LOL, I never pick a winner (except Taylor, but ya know, no one ever plays him ) It was kind of cool!

dannygokey Rubber bands last longer when refrigerated. ~ Thought you should know =)
about 1 hour ago from web

dannygokey Greetings twitterlings.
about 1 hour ago from web

Do they really?? I would assume that as the rubber gets cold it become less flexible and easier to snap in half.

Tess
October 12, 2009 at 3:45 pm
‘Sit back down you Mother F@#%&*s and listen to the Glittery Alien sing!

so why did pulp fiction just pop into my mind? Amanda Plummer at her best.

eta: to add http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_58YdwEKkZY&feature=related

That clip was hilarious!!

Do they really?? I would assume that as the rubber gets cold it become less flexible and easier to snap in half.

they do.

Those rubber band tweets are better than his chicken poo tweets of a few days ago.

(And I don’t follow Gokey. Saw Jim C’s screenshots in tweetbeat.)

this is a cool review-different perspective:

http://www.examiner.com/x-4107-Gay–Lesbian-Issues-Examiner~y2009m10d12-Adam-Lambert-revives-tradition-of-making-music-videos-to-promote-movies

thnx tierbee and Jan:)

I think Michael heard the snippet

yeah jim will love tfm.SHOCK .I think…lol

soooo WILL TYE SPECIAL DELUXE ALBUM BE RELEASED ON NOVEMBER 24??!!

plz?anyone?

As someone who actually really likes DCTR and who actually prefers to listen to it from beginning to end (skipping over Magic Rainbows and straight into Kiss on The Neck), I actually have no blandy-mcbland issues with DCTR. I know that some bonus / hidden songs would have probably made the main tracklist if DC had complete freedom (and I have my guess as to which songs would have been dumped if it weren’t for TPTB), but overall it’s a very good album IMO. The only thing I would probably say after hearing them live, is that the sound needs to have been opened up a little bit more — but without losing focus on the voice — but other than that, I don’t know that Cavallo needs to be blamed for anything at all.

luvadamlambert
October 12, 2009 at 4:12 pm
thnx tierbee and Jan:)

I think Michael heard the snippet

yeah jim will love tfm.SHOCK .I think’ ¦lol

soooo WILL TYE SPECIAL DELUXE ALBUM BE RELEASED ON NOVEMBER 24??!!

plz?anyone?

Young grasshopper,No TPTB will wait for all the diehard money on the album to run out.Then they will milk the delux money out of the idol diehards.

Do they really?? I would assume that as the rubber gets cold it become less flexible and easier to snap in half.

they do.

Fascinating stuff! Let me weigh in… um actually, nvm…

Adam moved up to #7 on Amazon

Jim actually DMed me this:

jambajim: Say huh? Poppycock! In fact, we’re about to post a gushing TFM blog in which i invent a word to describe how awesome his voice sounds…[1/2

111jackie111@jambajim they would have stayed if it had been Kris Allen? Right? You never miss a chance to belittle Adam, don`t you?

I thought that was cool, and whoever that hick is needs to get a life. She continues to bait him and bait him. Looking forward to what he has to say in the blog.

Rob Cavallo ‘ We were trying to strike the right balance between something 100 percent true to David as an artist, and at the same time satisfying all the supposed needs or desires of the cougar set”

Interesting.. so did anyone really get what they wanted by the said Compromise!?? In my weird Opinion just let David be David and sing what means something to him!!!

thnx Steve.sigh.buuuut they’re getting my money.or,rather my mom’s;)

Sounds like some of the Idols are getting together in LA. Anoop celebrated J. Pacitti’s birthday with Jackie T.

# @JPacittiMusic’s birthday festivities w/ @JackieTohn http://twitpic.com/l3crb 12:02 AM Oct 11th from Echofon

Then, apparently Anoop, Megan, Allison and Jackie got together for a reunion (these are Allison’s tweets, in case you can’t tell :

Ahhh today today.. Gana meet up wiff Anoop , Megan and Jacky !!! Missin them !!! And can’t wait to see em’ .. Hope you dudes have an awesome11:55 AM Oct 11th from Echofon

Had fun with those dudes !! Missed them so much !!about 18 hours ago from Echofon

Unfortunately, Scott couldn’t make it because he was heading back home:

Sorry @allison4realzzz @anoopdoggdesai and @meganjoysings … Wish I could see you guys but driving back to AZ. Lots a love!

I don’t think the SONGS themselves on DCTR are that bland, because so many of them kick ass live, but the PRODUCTION of the recordings made the songs all sound really bland and similar to each other

I don’t know enough about Cook’s live performances or what songs you think that about, of course. But the actual songs I’ve heard David perform live, haven’t been saved by what I think are decent vocals, good performance skills and a great personality that is just so much fun to watch live. Of course YMMV, but I personally am looking forward to David having more time to write and less contraints from the label (hopefully) than what I believe he had last time and that I think are responsible, not Cavallo, for the stuff on David’s album that wasn’t as good as I think many would like or expected.

So while I do think it’s very possible that Cavallo did ruin the songs he produced with David, I personally still think it’s more of a function of the AI machine and wanting to make songs that sound like everyone else that is out there, to be a safe and commerically viable as possible. I mean Kris and Allison’s songs were both pretty bland to me and neither one really sounded like what I think either artist really are about, or are capable and neither one were produced by Cavallo.

And well then there are all the other AI/19 records that sucked before as well, and none of them outside of some stuff with Cook, were produced by Cavallo. So yeah, could be Cavallo and in addition to the other stuff, or just other stuff. I have no idea, but I don’t think it will really matter and that in the end most stuff on Adam’s album will have a high dreck/tripe factor, just like every other AI album and regardless of producer. I’m just a ray of sunshine, aren’t I?

Sorry @allison4realzzz @anoopdoggdesai and @meganjoysings ‘ ¦ Wish I could see you guys but driving back to AZ. Lots a love!

can Scott drive?

luvadamlambert
October 12, 2009 at 4:17 pm
thnx Steve.sigh.buuuut they’re getting my money.or,rather my mom’s;)

Luv you are so smart for your age.You get it more times then not.Why do i think it will be hard for you to get your mom to buy both?

Jim actually DMed me this:

I guess I have to think twice when I DM someone. I used to think that those were meant to be private.

Adam tweet:

RT @pujasays: “…you can not become successful. You can only be successful.” -Tolle

Kris has moved up to 116, he was much lower last time I checked Allison is 108 – she may hit the top 100 soon

Eh, he’s usually very diplomatic when it comes to all sorts of stuff (who’s your favorite contestant, what do u think of this or that celebrity controversey, etc.), but I think he’s got his buttons just like everyone else and Limbaugh does tend to push many at once ‘” for a lot of people.

You know, I agree. And, I thought this was interesting: if you’re wondering whether DC tweets purposefully and then sits back to skim through the fan reactions… I think we have our answer. Ryan Star’s got DC’s back! I love these guys and their friendship.

After DC’s Limbaugh tweet, this guy @gummysmile tweets DC:

@thedavidcook I thought I was following David Cook, not Dave Mathews. Note to musicians: we don’t care what your political views are.

DC is silent, but we get this gem from @RyanStar:

@gummysmile hangin with @thedavidcook and reading your tweets. Whas your number?

So Ryan’s sitting there with DC, reading these tweet-backs, and challenging an anonymous internet dude to have an actual conversation! Ryan’s awesome. @Gummysmile’s tweet back to Ryan:

@RyanStar Guys love your music. No offense intended. Here is my #: xxx-xxx-xxxx. Please don’t re-tweet my #. Would love to here from u.

@RyanStar tweets after the call:

@GummySmile thanks for playing along. Nice to talk to you dude. See you soon

@GummySmile tweets back:

@RyanStar Thanks for the call. Enjoyed talking with u guys. Would love for you to come play Memphis. By the way, I don’t like Rush either.

Haha, that was kinda fun to watch. Ryan’s got a great attitude. We can disagree about politics, musician’s appropriate use of twitter, sure, but let’s talk like human beings.

Adam also changed his avatar and background this morning. Still hasn’t changed his bio that says he is on tour.

Why do i think it will be hard for you to get your mom to buy both?

you’re right.hmmmmm.well,I guess I know what I want for Christmas.

thanks to Adam’s tweet i have a new favorite quoteby default

I thought noctem seizure had a really good post last night (in the David Cook video thread?) about Cavallo and how they orginally blamed Cavallo for blanding David, but after checking out some of the rejected songs and from some things David Cook said, that they didn’t feel that Cavallo was really the source of those compromises.

I disagreed with Noctem too (not about the snippets being bad, though). The reason I think that David’s songs were smoothed over by Cavallo, is that there is a huge contrast between how they sound live and how they sound on the album. I think that David probably envisioned a different sound when he wrote something like Lie, because from the very beginning, his live performance had a very different arrangement. Also, if you listen to his prior albums, none of them have that smooth sound. Anyway, I hate to use the word bland because I actually do like his album. I have a hard time finding current albums that have more than two songs that I like nowadays, and David’s album has about 6-8 songs that I listen to regularly.

I didn’t like the snippets of most of the rejected songs either and in this instance I can say that RCA did something right. However, I’m sure that the rejected songs from other artists suck too. As for judging a song based on a 30s clip…CBTM has one of the best 30s clips on Cook’s album and it is one of my least favorites.

Adam also changed his avatar and background this morning. Still hasn’t changed his bio that says he is on tour.

He changed those along with his Halloween twitter which was a day ago. (i’m sad that i know this)

jambajim: Say huh? Poppycock! In fact, we’re about to post a gushing TFM blog in which i invent a word to describe how awesome his voice sounds’ ¦[1/2

That sounds nice–sorry, but was there more to that message since it ends with “…1/2″? That you care to share, anyway?

I guess I have to think twice when I DM someone. I used to think that those were meant to be private.

Typically, yes, of course, but b/c this is just about what he wrote on Twitter, I shared it. Of course if it was about PERSONAL stuff, I would not have posted it. But I will make certain not to do so in the future.

ETA: lol on the 1/2–I wondered about that, too!

Adam again:
RT @SkinGraft: our fashion week show is tomorrow. some pre-show press for you: http//bit.ly/1GA05W

His support for his friends never fails to warm my heart…

Deleted by author, point already made.

Sorry @allison4realzzz @anoopdoggdesai and @meganjoysings ‘ ¦ Wish I could see you guys but driving back to AZ. Lots a love!

I’m not touchin that one with a ten foot pole, but I have a feeling our resident comic might, lol.

You know, some of the uber fans are scaring me. Some of these people are seriously unstable. I mean “marrying cardboard cutouts of Clay” unstable. I used to get a kick out of some of the boards that made fun of these people, but some of them seriously need help. Last night I thought I was being linked to an article on AI and it was that Associated Content site. I think that place feeds some of the nuts who now think they are actual journalists.

Adam again:
RT @SkinGraft: our fashion week show is tomorrow. some pre-show press for you: http//bit.ly/1GA05W

His support for his friends never fails to warm my heart’ ¦

The link is bad…

He changed those along with his Halloween twitter which was a day ago. (i’m sad that i know this)

I still find it totally adorable that Kris’s dad immediately tweeted about wanting to know what Adam would do for Halloween. I like Adam and Kris because they appeal to me musically, as individual artists, but it’s a nice bonus that their families are so heartwarming. Kris’s family especially seems to really adore Adam based on what his parents, brother, and Katy have said. And Kris’s brother also tweeted very nice things about TFM and Friday I’ll Be Over You–they seem to really appreciate Adam and Allison a lot.

RT @pujasays: ” ¦you can not become successful. You can only be successful.’  -Tolle

I remember Adam saying that the book he was reading on the bus (after he couldn’t get through the Robbie Robertson bio, apparently) was by Eckhart Tolle. I love the way the boy thinks.

ETA: Got it guys, won’t share DM’s again. My error.

Squirrely
October 12, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Adam again:
RT @SkinGraft: our fashion week show is tomorrow. some pre-show press for you: http//bit.ly/1GA05W

His support for his friends never fails to warm my heart’ ¦

The link is bad’ ¦

Yep, I went to the skingraft tweet and it has a different link. Since he retweeted, they must have deleted and tweeted again.

I don’t know enough about Cook’s live performances or what songs you think that about, of course. But I thought the CBTM song I heard live during the GMA performance wasn’t saved by David’s skills. The song kind of sucks as a song, and so while I did think that David was good and I could appreciate his skills, in the end I still didn’t like the song.

Oh, but CBTM… well, a lot of DC fans agree that the song sucks, and there’ve been rumors (unconfirmed cuz DC is always complimentary of the album, Idol, 19, everyone in public) that DC never wanted this song on the album to begin with, much less end up on as a single. Including CBTM on the record… well, I guess that’s a blame RCA rather than a blame Cavallo situation. But a lot of the other songs on the record DO sound great live but bland on the record, IMO.

As for Mr. Sensitive, I can see how a lot of people may not like that song, because I honestly don’t think it’s radio-friendly (unlike Breathe Tonight or Life on the Moon or Lie or Declaration), BUT I actually really like it because it is NOT bland, and doesn’t sound like the rest of the mid-tempo ballads in the middle of the record. My complaint with the record is that while each song as moments of brilliance, not a lot of them work as recorded, cuz too much of them sound the same, like one long slogging song. If “I Did it For You” had been produced and recorded the way it sounds live (which is a lot more dynamic), it would’ve broken up the slogging effect, cuz the record version is SNORE (so is CBTM, and despite a strong start, so is Avalanche).

That said, since Cavallo is only doing 6 or 7 tracks for Adam’s record, not all of which would necessarily end up on his record, that may be a good thing for Adam.

adamlambert @michaelsarver1 thanks Michael!! How’s life?!
1 minute ago from Echofon in reply to michaelsarver1

Awww, he appeciated the shoutout from Michael.

First acknowledgment of anything….

adamlambert @michaelsarver1 thanks Michael!! How’s life?!

Adam is on a tweeting roll:

@michaelsarver1 thanks Michael!! How’s life?!

KrisAllen4Real By the way, had to take a driving test today………….PASSED!

hmmm.. what kind of vehicle???

He changed those along with his Halloween twitter which was a day ago. (i’m sad that i know this)

I thought I received a tweet yesterday that still was the other photo. Maybe not.

There are so many people that use his avatar that I just set up a separate group containing only Adam to keep track of him. That does not include the separate columns I have for “@adamlambert” and “adamlambert”.

(how sad am I?)

I mean ‘marrying cardboard cutouts of Clay’  unstable.

Stop it! That did not happen? If so why would you tell people you even own it let alone married it?

Ok Adam has time on his hands. Maybe his album is complete…He does have the AMA announcement tomorrow. I am really happy that Adam acknowledged Michael’s complementary tweet.