Idol Headlines for 09/15/07

From the above article: When it came time to assemble the band, Daughtry joked with Smith, he à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“kind of wanted to be like the Back Street Boys with guitars. So, we didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really care if they could play their instruments. We just wanted a bunch of good-looking guys.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

:lol_tb: I think he meant to call them the Spice Boys, right Nevada?

Philadelphians are so weird we might have that too. But do we have long-winded comparisons of American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Chris Daughtry and the guy from Live?

Wow. So, some other journalist didn’t care for a Daughtry performance so another journalist says they’d rather live in a city noted for its high murder rate than in the same town as the other journalist? Soliciting tweens to be strippers is better than thinking Ed from Live is better than Daughtry? Okay, then.

Must be a slow news day in Philly.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/blogs/boston/2007/09/14/the-week-that-was-6/

Wow… I remember reading comments about this earlier in the week but today was the first day I read it. Unbelieveable… these poor former idol contestants all have nut job fans like this… scarey. I guess these people are too far gone to realize that they’re a hindrance rather than a help – sad.

Billboard Magazine has a review of Jordin’s single Tattoo and it is very good.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/content_display/reviews/singles/e3ib1b99da9d9b5d7e2eb7ea5b520a6090d

Unbelieveableà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ these poor former idol contestants all have nut job fans like thisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ scarey. I guess these people are too far gone to realize that theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re a hindrance rather than a help – sad.

Exactly, Lu. This is precisely why Idol fans get a bad reputation.

But do you really think the people in charge of the people in charge of the Emmys hire idiots? There’s a reason Ryan Seacrest has more jobs than a dozen illegal aliens and the reason is this: Ryan Seacrest is the Michelangelo of empty patter, the Einstein of filling time and space in a pleasantly narcotizing manner.

That is probably the best description of Ryan that I’ve ever read – especially the “narcotizing” bit. A few weeks back there was a rumor circulating that FOX was very close to tapping Dr. House to host the Emmy’s. Personally, I would have preferred Laurie over Ryan in a heartbeat, but irregardless, I’ll probably be watching the Emmy’s out of sheer curiosity. How will Ryan do? Will AI finally win an Emmy? (Although they really don’t deserve to win, imho…)

Just a note to say thanks MJ for all the news you found for us insatiable Idol fans!

I certainly appreciate it.

I think I’m one of the few people here who like Tattoo (or have an interest in it.) That’s pretty odd since Jordin was the actual winner of AI. But it’s a weird reflection of that fact that winning Idol doesn’t seem to mean much anymore. Taylor sales have been called subpar for Idol but what is “par” for idol anymore. The days that the winner went platinum easily seem to be finished.

Some of the “fans” posting on Boston mag seem to be insane and I’m not kidding.

Some of the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“fansà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  posting on Boston mag seem to be insane and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not kidding.

I totally agree. I fear for the idol that runs into those people!

On Tatoo – I just plain old don’t like it which means it will probably go triple platinum and be single of the year or something. Besides, it sounds like there’s some kind of small dog barking in the background! Let the dog in!!!!

I never was a Jordin fan because her voice sounds like every other female pop voice to me – nothing unique – just same ole same ole. I wish her luck though. She seems like a decent kid.

Blake has a new myspace blog up to announce his album will in fact be out on 11/27!

Maybe Fox can find a way to exploit the “nutjobs” and produce a new reality show—”When Fanbases Attack”.

Beesims – Better patent that idea pronto!!!! I’m sure there’s people that would watch! We certainly know some people we could recommend to star on the show!

But ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a weird reflection of that fact that winning Idol doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seem to mean much anymore. Taylor sales have been called subpar for Idol but what is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“parà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for idol anymore. The days that the winner went platinum easily seem to be finished.

For fanbases, the competition never ends – see the Boston blog for proof – and the easiest way of assessing an Idol’s post-show career is to use album sales. Firstly, the competition is over, so the more obsessive fans should drop the sales comparisons. It gets old and it reflects poorly on their Idol. Secondly, I personally believe that to use album sales is a wholly inaccurate means of comparison.

Since AI first aired back in 2002, CD sales have dropped drastically. Among other factors, you need to also take into consideration when the album is released and the genre. If your CD is selling for $5 on Black Friday, yes, I think that helps to jump-start your sales; and although country sales are declining, country albums still sell better than most. When it comes to AI winners, Carrie and Kelly are the exception to the rule. It’s no surprise that the winners are selling less and less, which is why I doubt that Jordin will break 1 million in sales either. As Lu nicely noted, Jordin “…sounds like every other female pop voice to me – nothing unique – just same ole same ole.” If you have a top 40 music market that is already saturated with that type of performer, Jordin will blend in nicely. That’s both a positive and a negative: It’s positive in that she’ll probably get a good amount of airplay. It’s negative in that beyond the initial sales provided by her AI fanbase, what will make her stand out that will give the record buying public an incentive to spend $12 on her album? Not much, I think…

And if you’re an Idol alum and you release a crap album in this market? Well, you’re just screwed, lol…

What fantastic news for Fantasia!

Aretha Franklin Opens Up About Losing Weight
SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 15, 2007 08:00 AM EDT

By Mark Dagostino

[Cut everything about her losing weight - then this:]

So, tell us about the Dream Concert.
It’s going to be one magnificent evening. We’re trying to raise money [to build] the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial on the National Mall [in Washington, D.C.]. It will stand between the Lincoln Memorial and the Jefferson Memorial, and I wanted to help because MLK Jr. was a family friend à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ and because I believe in what he was doing.

Have you been working on new music, too?
I have a single coming out in two weeks à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ a duet with Fantasia [Barrino], called “Let Me Put You Up On Game.”

And a movie?
For television. My autobiography, From These Roots. Hopefully it will happen early spring. I have verbal commitments from Billy Dee [Williams] to play my father, and Terrence Howard to play Smokey Robinson.

Who’ll play you?
I’m not sure yet. Jennifer Hudson came to read for me. I also have an interest in Halle Berry possibly doing it. And Fantasia.

Any of them would be great.
That’s for sure! It really is exciting just to watch it all come to fruition.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20057158,00.html

Star, yay for Blake’s blog. I’m anxiously awaiting 11/27. Thanks for posting.

If you have a top 40 music market that is already saturated with that type of performer, Jordin will blend in nicely. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s both a positive and a negative: Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s positive in that sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll probably get a good amount of airplay. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s negative in that beyond the initial sales provided by her AI fanbase, what will make her stand out that will give the record buying public an incentive to spend $12 on her album? Not much, I thinkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I don’t know if I agree. That was the argument used last year before Daughtry released his album… that his sound was too generic and didn’t stand out from the bands already out there in his genre. It worked for him, so it could work for Jordin. I don’t know that it will, but it could.

Been sitting here reading the blog while watching the Miss. St. at Auburn game. Very interesting article above from the Boston Daily Blog about the Big E. I was getting sick of reading the bashing the Taylor and Chris fans were doing in response to the article when all of a sudden, during the football game, they started advertising Chris’ CD and selling 3 million. All this while the camera was focused on the Auburn band preparing to enter the field to accompany Taylor. Is it irony, coincidence or what? Now, I ask you, who is really feeding this feud???? :surrender_tb:

Did they show Taylor at half time??? I’ve been channel surfing football games. They played Chris’s Crashed song at half time on the Va/UNC game also. I dont think the Chris ad had anything to do with Taylor’s appearance. Apparently Chris’s people have gotten him a deal with the SEC and ACC football conferences to use the song Crashed. That’s quite a coup for Chris.

“Now, I ask you, who is really feeding this feud????”

Clive, of course :rolleyes_wp:

Hugh Laurie would have been an amazing improvement over Ryan Seacrest hosting the Emmys. Ryan may be able to smile and hand out phone numbers on American Idol, but you actually need real engaging comedic talent to host the Emmys. In my opinion, every time he attempts humor, it falls flat or makes himself look arrogant. I don’t understand that choice at all. However, I think American Idol will win an Emmy now that Ryan is hosting. They always prop up the host in some way.

As for Jordin’s marketability, I have a feeling she suffers from the same problem Katharine McPhee and Diana DeGarmo before her did in which her CD really has no musical identity. Since she is the winner, she will get some radio push but I don’t see it selling well or even charting high. If Taylor sold 700,000 and Katharine roughly 350,000, Jordin should register around 400,000 to 600,000 sold. Blake’s album is a mystery. I could see it selling or I could see it being a complete what were you thinking record and not being accepted by much but Blake’s hardcore fans. If it branches into hardcore hip hop, his sales are pretty much gone. Idol and hip hop don’t go mix.

Apparently not fans of Taylor Hicks or Chris Daugherty who continue to both frighten and amaze us with their slavish devotion to second-rate novelty acts.

I think this blogger from the Boston Daily is applying reverse psychology. In reality he “WANTS” more people to post in his blog in order to make in more “viewed”. So what does he do ? He insults both Daughtry and Taylor Hicks to rouse their fans to post on his blog defending either of them.

This tack is so old, but people still fall for it.

And the people who fell for it appear to be total nut jobs.

As for Jordinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s marketability, I have a feeling she suffers from the same problem Katharine McPhee and Diana DeGarmo before her did in which her CD really has no musical identity. Since she is the winner, she will get some radio push but I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see it selling well or even charting high. If Taylor sold 700,000 and Katharine roughly 350,000, Jordin

You may be right about the musical identity thing, but if they market Jordin towards the Hannah Montana/HSM crowd, she might take off. Kat might have done much better if she had gone a different route. Of course, who am I to predict anything? If you had asked me at this time after season 4 if I thought Carrie Underwood would be sell 6M, I would have laughed!

Judging how Blake describes his album, I don’t see it as hardcore hip-hop. He keeps referring to it as “electro/pop/dance/funk” and his “2080s” album. I can’t wait to find out what that means on 11/27!

ETA: I’ve been following the scores online. Close game for Auburn and Miss State. Did they show the halftime show, or was it just sports scores around the NCAAF?

I think Blake’s description of his CD sounds very intriguing. I’m looking forward to his first single!

Lu, they played Crashed on the Auburn game review also. They did show Taylor a little bit and had a short interview after his performance but said he had to hop a plane for another engagement or something like that. I’m sure it was surreal to be playing half-time at a televised game for a school that he attended. You know, in Alabama where football is king, that’s making it to the big-time!! :clap_tb:

You know, in Alabama where football is king, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s making it to the big-time!!

A thrill for him, no doubt! What did he perform?

I did not know Taylor attended Auburn! Did he sing Do I Make You Proud? J/K… what did he sing?

Hi everyone.

Looks like there’s been a lot of fun since I’ve been gone.

Karma sucks, I fly to Spain and encounter thunderstorms and flash floods!

Nevermind the company was great, as was the food and copious amounts of alcohol!

Lisa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What did he sing, hmmmm…I could hear Runaround in the background while the announcer was speaking. Other than that, would you believe I was so mesmerized, I don’t remember? Either that or I had a senior moment…take your pick! :jittery_tb:

I guess Runaround is a good choice for a football game!

Hi Lu.

MJ, I’ll be back on duty in the morning.

Welcome home, Lisa!!!!!

Hi Lisa. Welcome back. Maybe next year you could come to the States and enjoy a hurricane instead!

I do remember something funny that the announcer said during half-time. He said Taylor went to Auburn for 3 years studying journalism. He went on to say (paraphrasing) Taylor was probably glad he was doing what he was (singing) and not working covering the game as a journalist. I think he was jealous. Either that or he didn’t think Taylor would make a good journalist. No…it was definitely jealousy!

I remember Taylor used to play coy about choosing between Alabama and Auburn. Like I bought that one! :lol_tb:

WB Lisa!

Sorry to hear that the weather on your vacatioin was terrible, but I’m glad to have you back.

(not to say MJ hasn’t been doing a FANTASTIC job, because she has)

Will AI finally win an Emmy? (Although they really donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t deserve to win, imhoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦)

As I was saying on chat last night before I had a power bump (talk about karma…or was it Nigel?), I don’t want AI to win the Emmy for best Reality show this year. I like the Season 6 Idols, but they are not the ones who win the Emmy. It goes to the producers. I think that the producers did a TERRIBLE job this year. The show became all about the show and not about the contestants. From cutting sing outs to interviewing random people at farmer’s market to doing a haphazard job of releasing the singles, the producers dropped the ball.

If they win the Emmy this year, they may take it as validation of how well they produced the show (and continue to cheaply/rudely/a$$ingly blame the contestants for the low ratings). I don’t want them to win the Emmy this year because I would like them to change their ways.

Auburn halftime show setlist

Opened with: Heaven Knows

medley of:
Soul Thing
Give Me Tonite
Dream Myself Awake

ended with The Runaround and harp

Welcome back LisaB! I missed you dearly! We need to have a Welcome Home Party in chat tonight

As always I let my curiosity get the best of me and I read the comments on the Boston blog…I really think I could make a killing if I went into the straight jacket business and had one specially designed for each fanbase’s cuckoos.

Anyhow..everyone have a great afternoon, I am off to Walmart and then Koolmomma’s for the evening for chicken dorito casserole :bye_tb:

Welcome Back Lisa!!!! OMG THANK GAWD YOU ARE BACK. Hee.

Here is DAUGHTRY on the CBS for “interested parties”…

Over You

Jordin has a better voice than Kat but I agree about the no musical identity thing. The whole Idol thing is based on competition so of course Idol sales figure into it (for the first year anyway.) If only the Taylor/Chris “feud” was a made up joke to sell albums like the Kanye/50 Cents thing. Unfortunately, it’s an insanity engaged in by some of their fans.

Hmmm. That CBS video won’t load properly.

Welcome back, LisaB. Sorry about the weather but glad you managed a good time anyway.

Whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll play you [Aretha]?
Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sure yet. Jennifer Hudson came to read for me. I also have an interest in Halle Berry possibly doing it. And Fantasia.

Remember this Fantasia performance during an Aretha tribute show?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9yQtxAJB40

The days that the winner went platinum easily seem to be finished.

Every AI winner has gone platinum with their first album although Taylor is the only one who hasn’t sold 1M units according to SoundScan. Even so, I’m not sure I’m ready to declare a “trend” on the basis of the failure of only one performer to hit certain soundscan levels even considering sales for the industry overall. Jordin just needs a good album and good promotion.

But ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a weird reflection of that fact that winning Idol doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seem to mean much anymore. Taylor sales have been called subpar for Idol but what is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“parà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for idol anymore. The days that the winner went platinum easily seem to be finished.

Everything depends on management and record company. You can’t say that about everyone who wins Idol. Taylor’s sales are very good considering he’s an unknown artist and look at who he’s competing against!! The media doesn’t look on the bright side.

As for the Idols playing the country fair, that to me is the downer. What do those gigs pay $1000??? and if you look at the video there’s hardly anybody there.

Now, in contrast look at somebody like Jennifer Hudson who has good rep and is leaving the other Idols in the dust; or look at Kat who got good management and is going into acting. That’s why I say Kellie needs to get it together. She’s got too much personality to be on the country circuit. She needs TV exposure. She needs a big push, but eventually it seems after they go through about 2-3 management companies they bounce back. But sad that such talent has to take to county fairs.

I know people on this message board laugh at Idols who go Broadway, but you know what? — it pays the bill! It’s steady work! I betcha Fantasia is making at least $25,000 a week for the Color Purple.

Lastly — as long as Idol keeps producing Chris D’s, Fantasia’s, Jen-Huds, Carrie U’s and Kelly’s, it will be a viable program. When the winners stop having hit records, can’t find a spot on TV, acting, etc. then that’s a sign the show is losing steam.

I know people on this message board laugh at Idols who go Broadway,

Uhhhm. No they don’t

And a movie?
For television. My autobiography, From These Roots. Hopefully it will happen early spring. I have verbal commitments from Billy Dee [Williams] to play my father, and Terrence Howard to play Smokey Robinson.

Whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll play you?
Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sure yet. Jennifer Hudson came to read for me. I also have an interest in Halle Berry possibly doing it. And Fantasia.

Halle Berry? Is she drunk? LOL – no way will Halle Berry play Aretha. A singer has to play aretha, and it won’t be Fantasia. Fantasia don’t look nothing like Retha.
This little movie doesn’t sound even half-way there. First Aretha was going to have a musical stage show and then it was a movie and now it’s a TV movie. Oh brother! Jennifer will be waiting a long time for that to happen.
Look at the Lena Horne story….still not made….been in development hell for years. She’ll be dead and gone and won’t see her bio made.

MJ — I was answering the person who replied to my suggestion that Kellie P should do Broadway. They wrote no Kellie should stay in country. And I stated she’s needs to break free from Country, do Broadway, do TV shows, talk shows… I think she would make a great Annie Get your Gun or Oklahoma gal.

…or look at Kat …

I’d rather not.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d rather not.

Yes, you do.

Lisa, welcome home to sunny England. :dry_tb: :lol_tb:

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d rather not.

Yes, you do.

DB, you are evil…I’ll get you, my pretty **wicked laugh**

DB, you are evilà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll get you, my pretty **wicked laugh**

No need to pick on me…I don’t wear ruby red slippers, nor do I sing SOTR. :innocent2_tb:

Lisa, welcome back! Como esta? Wow…Spain! A dream vacation for me. Well, someday… ;-D

Elliott’s album is reported to be released in the Philippines on September 21, the day of his first show in Manila, by MCA Music, Inc. Yay!

Now, I ask you, who is really feeding this feud????

Not the media as you are inferring. “Crashed” has been used as the opening music for SEC games since the season started 2 weeks ago, and will continue to be used. They talk about that every week during halftime.

Go Miss State! I need to find a new team to cheer for, since when my team plays big games, they seem to go to the nearest high school (hell, junior high even!) and recruit that team to go play the “big dogs.” I am DISGUSTED with the University of Tennessee football right now.

The Boston Daily blog was priceless. That level of insanity never gets old. I don’t need to remember the laughter when I can read that blog.

And when they film my autobiography Gisele Bundchen will be the star.

No wonder Auburn lost. geez.

The only reason littled got a spot is because he paid royally.

Taylor, he picked up his check and danced all the way to the bank.

Now, that’s a woo hoo!

lisab!!!!!

I watched the new Fox series “Nashville” Friday night. It was not at all the kind of show I anticipated. It is a reality type show with some scripting but mainly follows around newcomers to Nashville trying to get into the business. I had wondered why Fox didnt put Kellie P on the show since a tv series was mentioned as a possibility for her and she may still make an appearance, who knows. I was totally surprised early in the show when her song “Things That Never Cross a Mans MInd” started playing. At least half the song played while some of the actors on the show were conversing around a pool. Song/BMG is the record company being showcased and one of their people mentioned Carrie U during the show too. Good marketing move to help the Idols and American Idol and Sony.

“No wonder Auburn lost. geez.

The only reason littled got a spot is because he paid royally.

Taylor, he picked up his check and danced all the way to the bank.

Now, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a woo hoo!”

*cough*myidolisbetterthanyouridol*cough*
/sarcasm