Idol Headlines for 09/07/09

oma school starts tommorow.today’s the last day of summer .it’s been fun guys.don’t worry I’ll still me here but probably won’t post as often.yknow homework and life and stufff………:(

The S7 girls are planning a girls’ day…

ramielemalubay: @realbrookewhite and @Syesha what’s a better day for our girly date in la Monday wed or friday

Syesha: @realbrookewhite How about Girl Day Tomorrow Brookie? Me u and Ramiele….. She’s good for tomorrow.:)

Carly’s feeling left out…

CarlySmithson: @Syesha Excuse me but I want to be part of girl day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
34 minutes ago from web

With the exception of Kristie Lee, I think they all live in the LA area now.

I think Archie must be channeling David Cook who was recently in Yellowstone…

@DavidArchie: I had a dream about hot springs and a volcano. Weird… But good morning!
about 2 hours ago from txt

Good luck with school Luv!! I miss my school days, and I really wish I were you rn. From now on, internetz only when homework is done darling, OK?

Do we have a concert tonight?

Really nice comments from Meat Loaf! I hope Adam hears about it.

When we asked Adam Lambert to choose Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre, he said, ‘I plead the 5th. I know nothing about sports. I know Brett Favre is an athlete. He’s a football player, right? I guess I’ll go with him because I know who he is. I don’t know the other guy!’ 

Oh, Adam…thank god they didn’t ask a similar question in Philly. At least he knows who Favre is, though.

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oma school starts tommorow.today’s the last day of summer .

ick, same.

Thnx sunn:D grrr…I like my internetz …:(…no concert tonight…which I guess is a good thing …for me at least…..I have to wake up a 5 tommirow… ….yup…meatloaf ‘s comments were gr8….I’m excited…!!!!!!!!

no rest for the weary

KrisAllen4Real Headed to philly to work with @alex_band. Should e a good day. At some point in life I will find time for sleeping.about 1 hour ago from TwitterFon

I think there have been great singers, you know, Freddie Mercury, Steven Tyler, you know, a lot of great rock singers. Michael Jackson was one, but Adam Lambert is one I haven’t been awestruck with since [Janis] Joplin in the ’60s. I don’t think anybody actually comprehends how good this guy is.

It’s comments like that, which give me chills. So impressive, coming from a legendary singer songwriter….!

Blog from Jason Castro…

hello all!
im sitting at the Austin Int’l Airport and theres free internet! woohoo! im using jackies computer because im saving my battery for the plane to fuel my secret gaming obsession.. i mean…. what? haha whoa! whats goin on… anyways, this weekend was a BLAST!!! my last little time off before i start a crazy radio tour and it was perfecttt. i flew into dallas friday night and went out to eat with alot of friends and family and it was a pretty charged friday night because the first game at the new cowboys stadium was the next day! i wanna go to game there soon, sounds unbelievable! after dinner i went home and tried to put together something for the wedding.. it was hard.. haha me and my brother share alot of clothes and shoes and so we had to coordinate with eachother… didnt have enough belts… stuff like that. haha but i got something put together and we left dallas at 6am. the reason for this was that we where spending the day on a huge barge on lake travis with the wedding party! I LOVE BOATS! i rarely get to go on one so this was very very excting!!! haha it was 2 stories and had a slide and man, what a blast!

more at the link

Great reviews for Matt! I’m happy for him, he was really excited about this show.

Since ozarka mentioned Jason Castro, did anyone go to the live show with Jason, Alisan and Alex Band were performing a few nights ago? would love to hear impressions… dietcoke?

Meatloaf’s compliment of Adam is amazing:
……” I don’t think anybody actually comprehends how good this guy is. I mean, I downloaded everything he did for ‘American Idol.’  I’m like this Adam Lambert groupie.” …….

First Brian May and now Meatloaf. !!
Adam must be thrilled, I know I am!

EDIT : s/b Meatloaf (not Meat Loaf)

I had problem trying to open mj’s site- kept giving me ht500 error for like 30 minutes.. arrrgggg.. cleaned up everything (registries, all the disks) and scan viruses, the site still gave me the error message. I had to leave the computer so I won’t get mad.

Did anyone have the same problem? it’s around noon est.

DC tweeted the first Canadian tour date last night..

@thedavidcook Show Announcement: The Casino Rama in Toronto, Ontario on November 16th – more Candadian dates to come next week. ~D

And the David/RyanStar bromance is starting up on Twitter again this morning

IMO, anyone who asks Adam Lambert a question about two football players deserves whatever non-answer they get. What a waste of column space LOL.

I think there have been great singers, you know, Freddie Mercury, Steven Tyler, you know, a lot of great rock singers. Michael Jackson was one, but Adam Lambert is one I haven’t been awestruck with since [Janis] Joplin in the ’60s. I don’t think anybody actually comprehends how good this guy is.

Wow, Adam must feel like he’s in a dream when he reads this stuff.

First Brian May and now Meat Loaf. !!
Adam must be thrilled, I know I am!!!

I’m thrilled too

I wonder what he’s doing today. Does he have to work too like Kris? Or he’s taking a day off. Or he’s flying to LA to meet with Rob Cavallo and Meatlove, I meant Meatlove said he’s going to meet Adam and that could be today.

From the MLive.com “Where Are They Now” article:

In April, Castro signed an album deal with Atlantic Records. “Let’s Just Fall in Love Again” is scheduled for release this month. His producer? “Idol” judge Kara Dio-Guardi, who joined the show after Castro’s season ended.

That will be news both to Kara and to John Fields, the album’s real producer.

I had problem trying to open mj’s site- kept giving me ht500 error for like 30 minutes.. arrrgggg.. cleaned up everything (registries, all the disks) and scan viruses, the site still gave me the error message. I had to leave the computer so I won’t get mad.

Did anyone have the same problem? it’s around noon est.

Yes, Adamme, the site was completely down for awhile. If you follow MJ on Twitter, she lets us know what’s going on.

I wonder what he’s doing today. Or he’s flying to LA to meet with Rob Cavallo and Meatlove, I meant Meatlove said he’s going to meet Adam and that could be today.

I wonder when that interview took place.

I had problem trying to open mj’s site- kept giving me ht500 error for like 30 minutes.. arrrgggg.. cleaned up everything (registries, all the disks) and scan viruses, the site still gave me the error message. I had to leave the computer so I won’t get mad.

Did anyone have the same problem?

Yes, I couldn’t gain access to the site until sometime after 1:00 pm eastern. I think MJ may have been having problems as well, since Headlines was posted later than usual.

ETA: I will now start following MJ on Twitter for updates, as I should have been all along!

I wonder what he’s doing today. Does he have to work too like Kris? Or he’s taking a day off. Or he’s flying to LA to meet with Rob Cavallo and Meatlove, I meant Meatlove said he’s going to meet Adam and that could be today.

I floved that article too. Lots of cred-by-extension with these long-established rock stars. Adam and Meatloaf have met though. There is a YouTube video of it where they’re joking around about having a DNA test to see if Adam really is Meatloaf’s long-lost son.

I wonder if he meant “meet with”?

ETA: I HOPE Adam doesn’t have to another one-day turnaround flight back to L.A. again. This schedule has to be kicking his ass. Sorry Kris has to work again today too, but we DO want those albums out on time … (yes, selfish). Thank God none of them have got really sick on this whole tour.

I can’t imagine what it must be like to be Adam these days. Going from being so unsure how he would be received to all the crazy fan love and fabulous tour reviews and now so many comments from people in the business like Brian May, Meatloaf, Mike Portnoy and Graeme Edge…wow. I’m just so happy for him. I can’t wait to watch his career unfold. It’s going to be quite a ride no matter what happens.

Adamme, yes, the site was offline for awhile. Yay, it’s back.

Oh, and it might be a typo, but I love how you called Meatloaf “Meatlove.” Yes, Meatloaf has Meatlove for Adam!

So exciting about Meatloaf’s comments! Guys like him and Brian May have seen ‘em all, so when they say things like this you have to give it a lot of weight. I’m so thrilled.

I also wonder what Adam is doing today. I notice that he hasn’t been telling us about his days off. We must use other methods to extract that information.

I would imagine the this fun little clip grew out of the Meat Loaf interview!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGzh_M-UvgQ

ETA: I will now start following MJ on Twitter for updates, as I should have been all along!

Yeah, and you think you’re addicted NOW. Once you start following, you can’t stay away. (But I highly recommend it.)

Oh, and it might be a typo, but I love how you called Meatloaf ‘Meatlove.’  Yes, Meatloaf has Meatlove for Adam!

LOL, ravengirl!!

That will be news both to Kara and to John Fields, the album’s real producer.

Reading that article, most of the info there comes from wikipedia… so errors (lots of them) are to be expected.

Hopefully if Adam is working today, they won’t make him fly all the way across the country. Just go to Philly to meet with whoever, or record whatever…that’s what Kris is doing (hopefully he will get some sleep at some point. Poor guy). That would still stink not to have an actual day off, but at least Philly’s only a short drive away from Reading.

This is sort of OT, but I thought it was funny. It’s a comment from someone at ontd_ai who went to the Indianapolis concert. This is her talking about the after show outside m&g

“Then, Adam came out & people freaked. Kris looked over & saw him and started jumping up & down going “OMG OMG” mocking everyone. It was too presh.”

I wish we had video of this. I can just see Kris with a snarky smile on his face doing this. Too funny!

Scott’s mom has a twitter where she follows only the idols. Of course it’s Scott heavy, that’s her baby but she’s very supportive of all the idols. She’s the Idolmom ;p

http://media.post-gazette.com/podcasts/20090907breakfastwith.mp3

The audio from that interview with Meatloaf is even better. His voice when he talks about Adam is so fanboy sounding..LOL

It pretty much follows the transcript that’s in the article MJ referenced, but some additional nice words.

I can’t imagine what it must be like to be Adam these days.

I am thinkings it’s damn scary but what has he got to loose? If everything goes down the drain it has certinly been one hell of a ride! Something to tell his grand children or nieces…

‘Then, Adam came out & people freaked. Kris looked over & saw him and started jumping up & down going ‘OMG OMG’  mocking everyone. It was too presh.’ 

I think he can thank god that the others still tease him and keep him grounded.

From one of Kelly shows a few days ago, theres a little talk of her Idol anniversary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwyqiqpKsmY

And from last night show, as she was in Oklahoma she added in Rebas “Greatest Man I never Knew”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDmaEjZ_2as

DV, thanks a lot for all the Kelly stuff you always bring here. That second video is beautiful.

Meatloaf likes Adam.

Otis Williams of the Temptations likes Taylor.

http://www.turkgeek.net/interview-w…-otis-williams/

Well about that GR review, I was happy that Matt got so much space and such a great review. Way to go Matt. And I really liked that Kris got his due in this review, thank you! that being said…Adam did not have a 4 song set. Kris didn’t sing “Blackbird,” and once again for reviewers, he doesn’t do “Hey Jude,” behind the piano. It’s on guitar. So sloppy.

http://media.post-gazette.com/podcasts/20090907breakfastwith.mp3

The audio from that interview with Meatloaf is even better. His voice when he talks about Adam is so fanboy sounding..LOL

Thank you CindyM

And from last night show, as she was in Oklahoma she added in Rebas ‘Greatest Man I never Knew’ 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDmaEjZ_2as

Kelly is really a great singer.

Well about that GR review, I was happy that Matt got so much space and such a great review. Way to go Matt. And I really liked that Kris got his due in this review, thank you! that being said’ ¦Adam did not have a 4 song set. Kris didn’t sing ‘Blackbird,’  and once again for reviewers, he doesn’t do ‘Hey Jude,’  behind the piano. It’s on guitar. So sloppy.

Also in the last mlive.com piece, they call Allison the third place finisher and says she is so glad to be home.

Ozarka –

@DavidArchie: I had a dream about hot springs and a volcano. Weird’ ¦ But good morning!
about 2 hours ago from txt

I’m not touching that one.

Eh.I said it yesterday and I’ll say it again.I didn’t really like that review.too NICE….ugh

hahaha I’m realy close to losing my shit because the idols (coughadamcough) are just a few hours away.

http://media.post-gazette.com/podcasts/20090907breakfastwith.mp3

The audio from that interview with Meatloaf is even better. His voice when he talks about Adam is so fanboy sounding..LOL

It pretty much follows the transcript that’s in the article MJ referenced, but some additional nice words.

Thanks for that link…

It is one thing to read it in print, but seems that more special to hear it from the mouth!

KRIS ALLEN & DAVID GRAY

I’m tuned in to 104.1 mix in Boston and it’s been confirmed that the programm is scheduled for October 19th not September.
Hopefully Kris’ single will be out by then.
I’m happy for Kris because David is the sh** in the UK. One of if not the best singer/songwriter there and his hit “Babylon” topped the charts there. He’s also got a huge following. Good for Kris to begin with!

I’m not touching that one.

ROFL!!!

I’m tuned in to 104.1 mix in Boston and it’s been confirmed that the programm is scheduled for October 19th not September.
Hopefully Kris’ single will be out by then.

October makes much more sense, because yes, could totally have the new single out by then, and that does go into the timeframe Kris said his first single will be out. Exciting for Kris’s fans! Especially the ones like mj that might get to go. I wish you luck with getting tickets! (my fingers are crossed for you)

http://media.post-gazette.com/podcasts/20090907breakfastwith.mp3

The audio from that interview with Meatloaf is even better. His voice when he talks about Adam is so fanboy sounding..LOL

It pretty much follows the transcript that’s in the article MJ referenced, but some additional nice words.

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I think October is good…maybe adam’s will be released 2 weeks later?…….thoughts…,.what about Allison………..danny probably will release early next year………

my dream team would be kanye west writing for kris;-) homies I kno.haha I’m obsessed with pocket idol singing about homies.im weird.

YES!!!! gma starlight on my iPod!!!!!!!!

I’m so thrilled by meatloaf’s compliment about Adam. It sounds almost too good to be true. Both Brian May and Meatloaf speak really highly about Adam’s talent, especially his voice. Anyone know if meatloaf was commenting the same 2012 track? I hope he was talking about another song.

I’m crossing my figures that RCA hooks up Adam with good materials. I have faith in Adam, but not so much in 19E.

Thank you all for the answers about mj’s site. I will follow mj on twitter now.

Oh, and it might be a typo, but I love how you called Meatloaf ‘Meatlove.’  Yes, Meatloaf has Meatlove for Adam!

I know I just realized that I guess I never understand why he’s called by that name

edit: Way to bait and start a flame war! More posts like this and I PUT YOU IN MODERATION

I had a dream about hot springs and a volcano. Weird’ ¦ But good morning!

The beauty and innocense of David Archuleta. Presh!

That quote from Meatloaf is just incredible. How do you top that?

Gonna listen to Kelly and Reba now…..Kelly makes me want to make a shrine to her and bring it fruit and flowers

I know I just realized that I guess I never understand why he’s called by that name

I think that’s been his nickname since he was a kid. He says in the interview that even his teachers called him “Meat.”

I think there is no one quite like Adam these days. Kris is awesome and my favorite because I prefer his type of music. But, Adam is WOW…and I agree that he has something special. His seemingly effortless way of singing gives me goosebumps. I think he is very charismatic and draws people to him, other idols included. I think they are so glad to be his friend, I know that sounds corny, but I think he would be a great friend to have. I look forward to buying both K &A’s music, maybe others also.

Anyone know if meatloaf was commenting the same 2012 track? I hope he was talking about another song.

Meatloaf said he downloaded everything Adam did on Am. Idol, so I’m assuming it’s Adam’s talent in general that impresses him so, not just the 2012 soundtrack. I’ve been trying to keep my enthusiasm in check, but that interview gave me the chills. November won’t come soon enough for me! Adam’s album will be released just three days before my birthday, and I’d like to say I’m frugal enough to have that be one of my presents, but there’s absolutely no way I can wait that long before I buy it!

Volcanos? Hot springs? Methinks little archie needs to get la-d

I’m tuned in to 104.1 mix in Boston and it’s been confirmed that the programm is scheduled for October 19th not September.
Hopefully Kris’ single will be out by then.

That’s really strange. When I heard the dj’s talking about this on Saturday, they said it was an end of summer party. Maybe Bostonians are extending the summer?? lol….. They also said it was a Saturday – October 19th is Monday. In any event, it’s all good. I would imagine Kris will be singing his new single at that time.

There are people who have the goods that don’t make it and people who don’t have the goods that make it. It’s a strange business and you have to get a lot of things right and sometimes people that don’t deserve it hit jackpot. Just listened to a redone produced sugarbabes track (on Perez site) and it’s really not interesting. So a lot of thing has to clash for songs and albums to be excellent.

Volcanos? Hot springs? Methinks little archie needs to get la-d

Sounds like he had a dream!

Missymusic I saw a random tweet saying it was oct.19 too…….

OMFRIGGINA O JUST LOVE U!!!!! is on.first time I’m listenng to it on my iPod.beautiful. Crying.brb dying…….

David Gray is playing the Wang Center in Boston on October 23. I must admit I knew nothing of this guy until I Googled him. I had heard his name, but that was about the extent of my knowledge of him.

He is very good in the British tradition of the singer/songwriter. He does not have the most beautiful voice ever heard, but it is very emotive.

Of course, since Kris and David are playing this radio station event on the 19th, it does make me wonder if Kris might open for him on the 23rd? It wouldn’t be a bad place to start at all.

David’s website has a music player with three of his new songs, including the current single. It also has a youtube of his current video. He plays piano and accoustic guitar, not unlike a cute Idol.

http://www.davidgray.com/tour/

David Gray is awesome in my book! Nice to hear Kris getting out there. Also read somewhere on this blog that his brother described his album as pop with alt rock and rnb vibes? Sounds interesting.

David Gray is playing the Wang Center in Boston on October 23. I must admit I knew nothing of this guy until I Googled him. I had heard his name, but that was about the extent of my knowledge of him.

I saw that and am contemplating going. David Gray is very good. I have not heard anything about the show with Kris yet.

Thanks tess well that makes this ing:)

luvadamlambert
September 7, 2009 at 1:26 pm
oma school starts tommorow.today’s the last day of summer .it’s been fun guys.don’t worry I’ll still me here but probably won’t post as often.yknow homework and life and stufff’ ¦’ ¦’ ¦:(

Luv, it’s going to continue to be fun, you’ll see. hope homework, life and stuff goes well for you. In the meantime, here is a giggle for you:
At the bottom of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette article there is a link for
“Meat Loaf Recipes
Meat Loaf Recipes & Meal Ideas Meal Ideas ten usd per mo Top Chefs ”
wonder how Meatloaf feels about that?

I find it funny how Meatloaf has gone from has been to rock god and wise men with one comment about Adam.
I love me some Bat Out of Hell and been tired to defend him on US boards so this sudden love leaves me confused.

Frankly, had he acted like Gene Simmons, he would have been a has been and a joke. I still remember how AI fans acted when he performed with precious Kat McPhee who was so much better than this 70′s has been.

Bottom line, Adam doesn’t have one song on the market rights now, he has tons of potential and the industry behind me. I just wish the hype would calm down before he releases anything.

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Thanks vada I thought I had heard those names with Adam b4.valentin432 if meatloaf had said something bad about Adam ppl here would hate his guts.thanks valilac that did make me giggle.thanks
no tess I don’t have that.,……..:(

I remember Taylor Hicks did. He was to record a track with John Mayer (remember him, the giant killer who will wipe the floor with Kris Allen come Nov 17th?), Ray Charles people were all over Taylor saying that he was like Ray and gave him one of Ray’s jackets, Toni Braxton said nice things. I’m sure there were others. He was People’s Hottest Bachelor of the year (the featured dude) and had a big feature in Vibe Magazine. He’s the only Idol to get a Ford commercial (a real one) straight out of Idol (it ran that summer).

In the end, it didn’t mean a thing. I could probably track down similar things for a lot of Idols.

David Foster can barely contain his love for Katharine McPhee and she was on the cover of tonnes of magazines. Again, it didn’t help her. Blake got a lot of respect from people in his field. Both Davids. Fantasia has Quincy Jones slavering all over her. I could go on and on.

That’s not to say that Adam will suffer the same fate as Taylor or Katharine. It’s just that it has happened before with mixed results. It’s certainly better than people with industry cred saying that Adam sucks, but the praise doesn’t guarantee success either.

And, IMO, it doesn’t mean that people who don’t like Adam are wrong. It just means they have different tastes than Slash, Meatloaf and Brian May.

Wow…come home…I didn’t GET this b4….now….wow…I’m in awe….oma….

I find it funny how Meatloaf has gone from has been to rock god and wise men with one comment about Adam.

I really don’t consider Meatloaf to be a “has-been” since he’s kept himself pretty current in the movie industry, but I also don’t think his present “status” has anything to do with how valid his opinions should be considered. Whether he’s still recording currently or hasn’t made anything in the past two decades is of no consequence to me. The fact is, he’s been in the industry with some of the best of all time, and he still thinks, comparitively, that Adam is amazing.

I can’t imagine what it must be like to be Adam these days. Going from being so unsure how he would be received to all the crazy fan love and fabulous tour reviews and now so many comments from people in the business like Brian May, Meatloaf, Mike Portnoy and Graeme Edge’ ¦wow. I’m just so happy for him. I can’t wait to watch his career unfold. It’s going to be quite a ride no matter what happens.

Do you happen to have the link to the comments by Mike Portnoy and Graeme Edge? Ive never seen them but would love to

THNX KIRSTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regardless of how it may or may not affect Adam’s future, the praise is nice to hear and I’m sure he appreciates it.

Kirsten:

And, IMO, it doesn’t mean that people who don’t like Adam are wrong. It just means they have different tastes than Slash, Meatloaf and Brian May.

My opinion of Meatloaf happens to be the same as Clive Davis’, so I am not alone in the ‘ick’ for Meatloaf.

David Bowie is not at the bottom of my ranking of rock singers. He is just above Meatloaf.

Before we get too carried away with predictions on their future succeses we should take a moment and contemplate while listening to old idol albums…

Do you happen to have the link to the comments by Mike Portnoy and Graeme Edge? Ive never seen them but would love to

Here is Mike Portnoy

http://www.mr-l.org/mike-portnoy-of-dream-theater-adam-lambert-is-a-true-star-and-deserves-every-bit-of-fame-by-huffpost/

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I do think that there was a general agreement among many people who follow the show professionally that Adam had garnered more praise and attention and respect from the industry than any previous contestant on the show–People from Rushfield to the RS writers made comments about that. And I think that the tour reviews have largely reflected that.

However, while that unusual level of praise does say something, I think, about Adam’s talent, it definitely doesn’t guarantee success. Other contestants have had a lot of buzz, maybe not as much, but a lot, and have failed to have success in this area. It’s nice to have the interest, though, and the praise is nice to hear.

But, both in terms of industry interest in them and in terms of just their pure talent and musical instincts and creativity, I’m pretty optimistic that Adam, Kris, and Allison really could all have successful careers. Idol seems to have become more about producing actual artists rather than just good singers, which still doesn’t guarantee success, but is a good start for the three of them.

Kirsten taylor who ?

For me, what there is in common between Bryan May, Slash and Meatloaf is that they all have ties with AI and thus more susceptible to praise a contestant.

Bryan May and Slash have both mentored episodes. For people who don’t remember Bryan gave a rave review of Paris Bennet too.
Paris who? Exactly.
Meatloaf had that poorly executed duet (even I will admit it) with princess Kat, only to be killed by the AI fans who thought that superstar Kat didn’t deserve such bad treatment. So excuse me if I am a bit cynical by this whole deal.

THe good feedback that impressed me the most was from Billie Joe Amstrong (lead singer of Green Day) because he’s current and his fanbase probably despises AI (even if he did perform once on the show).

Here is Mike Portnoy

Thanx

The best use Adam can make of any industry cred he has right now is to set up some good collaborations. Not just writing or other behind the scenes things, but performance – sing on someone’s album, appear in their show, etc. If his own material is not all that (and Idol albums mostly aren’t), he’ll still have some good stuff out there.

Otherwise, he needs to be putting all the energy he can into making his album good. I’m glad they’ve started early on it, but I still think the development cycle is whacked. Recording stuff they’ve never performed, especially as they’re not experienced recording artists, is not the best way to get the best from them. I just watched Adam’s WLL from last night. Light-years better than the start of the tour, mega-light years better than on the show or the studio cut from then. And that’s a good song he’s known his whole life. And he’s going to take these new songs, that he’s been looking at in his spare time for a couple of months, and try to get them past embryo stage? If anyone has a way to get a message to any of these guys, tell them to find a way to live in their material long enough to really know what’s in there.

It’s great that Adam has an instrument and technique that’s out of sight. Joe Schmo may have a Stradevarius and technique that’s out of sight. What matters more is whether they have good music and something to say about it. The talent can help good music come to them, but until it does, it’s all just tea leaf reading.

I’m glad he has fans like Messrs. May and Loaf, but they’re just sipping Beaujolais like the rest of us.

boredinschool:

Here is the Mike Portnoy quote:

I was really hoping for Adam Lambert to pull it off as D.C. did. Adam’s voice is just incredible. He is a true star and deserves every bit of fame I hope he gets-he is a truly gifted vocalist ‘” the likes of which we don’t often see in this business (ala Freddie Mercury, Jeff Buckley, Matthew Bellamy, etc.).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-chattman/the-best-of-times-for-dre_b_250544.html

Adam has gotten great reviews on the tour, among the best I’ve seen although tour reviews can’t guarantee success as a recording artist. Brian May was a mentor on Idol season 5 and he was a very nice guy. I still haven’t stopped being mad at him for praising Paris Bennett so much though. She was terrible on the tour. I can’t stand Meatloaf or his music but if you dig him, that’s high praise indeed. Although if he thinks Adam will be bigger than Micheal Jackson or is more talented

Here is Mike Portnoy

http://www.mr-l.org/mike-portnoy-of-dream-theater-adam-lambert-is-a-true-star-and-deserves-every-bit-of-fame-by-huffpost/

I’ve never read that before, thank you for posting it.

That’s not to say that Adam will suffer the same fate as Taylor or Katharine. It’s just that it has happened before with mixed results. It’s certainly better than people with industry cred saying that Adam sucks, but the praise doesn’t guarantee success either.

And, IMO, it doesn’t mean that people who don’t like Adam are wrong. It just means they have different tastes than Slash, Meatloaf and Brian May.

I find it hilarious that people have watched Idol for the first time and suddenly think that this Adam buzz is somehow new territory for an American Idol contestant straight off of the show.

Gene Simmons said that Adam did not have a rock voice and that he had killed his career by admitting being gay, but he also said in his website that Adam should have won over Kris. Not exactly bad stuff…

I seriously don’t kno who meatloaf is but whatever

It was the never ending prosthelytizing that made Clay Aiken and the Claymates so hated. It is always good to learn from past mistakes.

Totally disagree! It was the crap music that did him in. Not his fans and their OTT bullshit. If the music was good, just as in Adam’s case. If the music was good, he wouldn’t be a punch line. He’d be a superstar. That is why while I understand all of the OTT praise for Adam, I will not be predicting anything. If he comes out with dreck the first time out, no matter how much it sells, (because Clay’s first cd was crap) it could all be for nought. This is the opportunity for him to make his statement, and I hope he does.

I hate to use Taylor as a cautionary tale, but I will, if he had given his fans what they wanted, and those from Vibe and Ray Charles camp, he might have had the kind of success he was on the verge of acheiving. There was little soul in that CD. Instead, he was Biced, and made to churn out the regular idol BS that anyone could have sung, from Justin Guarini to Clay Aiken. If they do that to Adam, the same scenario will follow. Sadz.

OMG Tony, I find the same. Certain people get buzz off Idol. Some get more than others. They,each and every one of them, have an uphill road to climb. Some make it to the summit..some close..and some fairly falter. So little of that has to do with their sheer vocal talent. Who truly gives a fuck about that? You have to sing the right thing at the right time for the right people as far as I see it. There’s no magical component. As far as I see it, it’s all still a shitload of luck.

I find it hilarious that people have watched Idol for the first time and suddenly think that this Adam buzz is somehow new territory for an American Idol contestant straight off of the show.

Tony, Ive watched previous seasons off and on and have had favorites and maybe because I have not been this involved with the blogs in the past, but I have never witness buzz like the kind Adam has been generating. I do admit when I talk to my sister who is not in the AI bubble, she has no clue as to what I’m talking about, so maybe all the buzz is just confined to those in the AI underground ;p

Here is the Graeme Edge quote:

When asked what young talent he’s been paying attention to, he said this season’s ‘American Idol’  runner-up Adam Lambert has a special talent.

‘I really hope the right people get a hold of him,’  Edge said. ‘I would love to see him with Queen, but the Queen vocalist would probably have me shot.

‘But he could have stepped into Queen with that range and that emotion.’ 

http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/entertainment/17270080-41/story.csp

okay I just listened to him and I like meatloaf(ive only heard his name b4).not like ZOMG the greatest thing evah!!!! but I like it .

Here is the Graeme Edge quote:

When asked what young talent he’s been paying attention to, he said this season’s ‘American Idol’  runner-up Adam Lambert has a special talent.

‘I really hope the right people get a hold of him,’  Edge said. ‘I would love to see him with Queen, but the Queen vocalist would probably have me shot.

‘But he could have stepped into Queen with that range and that emotion.’ 

http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/entertainment/17270080-41/story.csp

Thanks for posting this.

Ita abysee.sigh.

I still have to do required reading and other stuff 4 tommorow!!!!!! shit:(

Nobody would ever deny that Adam Lambert has an amazing range. I, among, many, would deny that his range means shit if he has no writing ability. I’ve always been one who thinks that a voice or a range means little if you have no talent to make it heard. Iv’e always been one who more deified those who can bring me a song than those who can sing it prettily. I just guess I always thought that a voice is something one has not much control over. It’s those who have brought me a song that amazes me who bring me to the place where I’d even consider posting here. If you can do both (David Cook is the only Idol who I’ve noticed can do both) then I’m truly amazed,smitten, etc…

Meatloaf also performed on the S5 finale. Same season Brian May was on. And they’re both working with the same guy who produced David Cook’s album. Six degrees of separation Idol style.

I believe both these guys are sincere but the Idol machine will be gearing up once the tour is over. I still remember Clive Davis sitting with Whitney Houston while Katharine McPhee did one of her songs. And Whitney led the standing O. So those of us who’ve been here awhile can be a tad cynical.

David Foster can barely contain his love for Katharine McPhee and she was on the cover of tonnes of magazines. Again, it didn’t help her.

I’m pretty sure that after McPhee lost her first record deal it was David Foster who took her under his wing and helped her get this new one. So his love for her continued and she benefited from it.

Blake got a lot of respect from people in his field.

Again, I think they stood by him too and were probably part of the reason he was able to land another deal and is able to release a new album this fall.

Both Davids. Fantasia has Quincy Jones slavering all over her. I could go on and on.

I wonder who hooked Fantasia up with Oprah and current “The Color Purple” success? It MIGHT have been Quincy.

Gingerly I think that’s how a lot of Adam fans feel about him(re:David cook comment)

Meatloaf also performed on the S5 finale. Same season Brian May was on. And they’re both working with the same guy who produced David Cook’s album. Six degrees of separation Idol style.

It’s a conspiracy!

All this praise for Adam may mean nothing in the long, that’s true. I still say it’s better to have people in the industry raving about you than having no one talk about you at all.

Yes, and Brian raved about alot of the contestants on camera for an AI episode. But he never used his own blog and his own off camera cred to praise any of the contestants’ ¦Paris included. I don’t think episode mentor comments should be given a lot of weight’ ¦.I could find clips of ‘praise’  for contestants that would make everyone cringe with disbelief.

He did blog about one contestant to defend him and how he was seen on tv and it was for this trainwreck

I have nothing but respect for Bryan May but in his blog he strikes as someone who praises a lot and loves tons of different people.
He’s just like the reviews that are positive for everyone, it’s nice to hear but ultimately not that valuable.
Look at how lukewarm Bellamy sounded when he was asked about Adam, he asked when his cd was coming out because ultimately that’s what really matters, the music.

Susan m. Can u post a link to that song u were talking about earlier? YouTube plz.:)

@thedavidcook Show Announcement: The Casino Rama in Toronto, Ontario on November 16th ‘“ more Candadian dates to come next week. ~D

Wow. Why did I think that David Cook was somewhat successful. Apparently not so much. Casino Rama is NOT in Toronto. It is way north of Toronto, in the absolute middle of no where. Very sad.

vidtomp3.com still isnt working for me:(

LucyN
September 7, 2009 at 5:10 pm

All his praise for Adam may mean nothing in the long, that’s true. I still say it’s better to have people in the industry raving about you than having no one talk about you at all.

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I wouldn’t say it means NOTHING. It DOES mean something. Still doesn’t guarantee success. But it HELPS and is always a positive when such well respected people in the industry not only respect Adam’s talent but are truly in AWE of it.

It’s buzz; and buzz is good. Buzz gets potential record buyers to know your name and to check out your music when it drops. That’s half the battle in this industry. The other other half is putting out a product that people want to buy.

So I’d say Adam is half way there.

Fans can’t keep someone going no matter how hard they try. People in the industry keep singers moving forward because the singer is someone’s bread and butter.

I thought record byuers kept singers moving forward. I mean Britney is moving forward and I guess that is because she sells well and not because she sings well. Talent is a plus but it’s not all.

I mean some producers make records with people like Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan. I wonder why…

No conspiracy. But it is better when someone completely unconnected with Idol praises a contestant. Of course, it so rarely happens probably because the show is still so uncool.

Brian May is sweet man who rarely says anything bad about anyone. I think his praise of Paris were very OTT (saying they’d hire her or something) so I remember it above and beyond the rest of the Idols that season. So I was 100x more let down by how lousy she was on tour.No comparison to Adam because he’s really talented.

I love Adam and his music.that’s it.;/

I think Adam has gotten great buzz on the tour. However, that’s about 5% of the Idol audience at best. The rest of the world has pretty much forgotten him and the entire season because they’re not hearing any new music. Once the new stuff comes out, Idol will get the bells and whistles going to get the fans excited. Why don’t you ask ten regular folks you know to name one contestant from S8? You may be surprised at their non answers.

bye!!!! I have to do some last minute school shopping….:(

Wow. Why did I think that David Cook was somewhat successful. Apparently not so much. Casino Rama is NOT in Toronto. It is way north of Toronto, in the absolute middle of no where. Very sad.

Kelly Clarkson, Bill Cosby, Robin Williams, Black Crowes, Roger Daltrey and the Oak Ridge Boys are all playing there in the next month or so (why yes, I looked it up). Should we be sad for them as well?

ETA: My first smiley. Woot.

Wow. Why did I think that David Cook was somewhat successful. Apparently not so much. Casino Rama is NOT in Toronto. It is way north of Toronto, in the absolute middle of no where. Very sad.

I know. Poor Kelly Clarkson who is also playing there. Very sad for American Idol, having two winners playing there.

@thedavidcook Show Announcement: The Casino Rama in Toronto, Ontario on November 16th ‘“ more Candadian dates to come next week. ~D

Wow. Why did I think that David Cook was somewhat successful. Apparently not so much. Casino Rama is NOT in Toronto. It is way north of Toronto, in the absolute middle of no where. Very sad.

Um – I don’t think that’s so sad. A lot of the big casinos are not in metropolitan areas. And Kelly Clarkson’s playing the same place in October. And DC says more Canadian dates are coming.

Anyway – Cookie has a Twitpic up showing him at a ball game in SanFrancisco today. He sure loves baseball. He and his band play the Fillmore tomorrow. (Headlining with the CrashKings opening)

Instead, he was Biced, and made to churn out the regular idol BS that anyone could have sung, from Justin Guarini to Clay Aiken. If they do that to Adam, the same scenario will follow. Sadz.

I don’t think he was Biced. He got to put out a CD he claimed to love. He was able to stall on tour and do shadow shoes and delay his release. What he put out wasn’t ever going to make a splash.

As for Bo, he so obviously tried to do his thing and they made him sing a brand of rock that was not himself. It was painful. I’m sure they didn’t think what he was doing was marketable. They were probably right about that, but they could have compromised with him.

I don’t think anyone has been Biced since Bo. I think Blake and Taylor both had a lot of control over there albums, and for whatever reason, they weren’t something radio wanted to touch.

I have no idea what Adam’s gonna sound like. I hope its good.

leome
September 7, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Wow. Why did I think that David Cook was somewhat successful. Apparently not so much. Casino Rama is NOT in Toronto. It is way north of Toronto, in the absolute middle of no where. Very sad.

I know. Poor Kelly Clarkson who is also playing there. Very sad for American Idol, having two winners playing there.

lol you guys crack me up.People really should know they should check before they go after david cook.Foot will end up in mouth more times then not.

I think the difference with Adam is the industry seems to think Adam is a Rock Star (and I agree).

None of the other Idols in the past really had the “rock star” thing going and people have reacted to it. Love Kelly, but she is a pop star really, Carrie is a country star.

Daughtry is around, but he is not really a rock star in the grand rock star, Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler, David Bowie, et al sorta way.

The thing that makes me wonder though, is has that time past? Who do we have today who is really that type of front man rock star? Kid Rock? Dave Matthews? There most be some who I’m missing.

I think people want a rock star these days. Adam is super talented and a lot of people are rooting for him and that will help him. Just hoping his CD is awesome and it works out for him.

Twitter from Alex Band…

alex_band
Alex Band | Los Angeles, CA
Writing session with @KrisAllen4Real Is going great, lots of coffee being drank, getting two killer songs together. 1 minute ago

Two songs and things are going great

My argument is that the people (apart from Billy Joe Amstrong) that have been praising Adam (mainly Meatloaf, Slash and Bryan) all have ties with AI and maybee even some interest in Adam doing well (they were all at Cavallo house the day Adam recoreded for 2012).
Wonder if you can have an argument here without low level AI fan warring.

BTW, the fact that May praised Kris after the final when he was so obviously and predictably overmatched during WATC is another reason why I believe May’s opinion may not mean too much.

I prefer to keep my expectations low for any AI recording but you are free to do it your way.

Adam Tweeted:

Happy Labor Day!!!! Take it easy everyone!
11 minutes ago from TwitterFon

leome
September 7, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Wow. Why did I think that David Cook was somewhat successful. Apparently not so much. Casino Rama is NOT in Toronto. It is way north of Toronto, in the absolute middle of no where. Very sad.
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I know. Poor Kelly Clarkson who is also playing there. Very sad for American Idol, having two winners playing there.
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Bwah!

Poor DC, indeed. Can.not. breathe. That was hilarious. Heh.

It’s fantastic that Adam is garnering praise from people like Brian May and Meatloaf and all that. But if I were him, I’d want praise from people who are relevant to what’s going on in the music business ight now. Brian May is a legend, but Queen hasn’t really been releveant since Freddie Mercry died. And Meatloaf? While I love “Paradise by the Dashboard Light”, he was really a 1- or 2-hit wonder who, again, hasn’t been relevant to th current music scene in years.

Lady Gaga and Katy Perry being fans of Adam’s actually might carry more weight/significance for him, since they are megasuccessul current acts.

However, in the end, if Adam puts out mediocre music that no one wants to listen to (which I really doubt he will do), it likely won’t matter too much who is praising him now. People are fickle — if Adam doesn’t live up to his hype fairly early in his solo career, many of these famous supporters could end up jumping ship in favor of the next so-called big thing. And if he puts out great music that people DO want to listen to, then it really a bunch of so-called big names praising him, as he will have succeeded on his own.

I’m hopeful that Adam, Kris and Allison will all put out relatively strong debuts that will be successful enough to allow them to make a second album, a third one, etc. etc., with them gaining more confidence and creative control as they go forward. Hopefully, we will still be hearing from all of them 5, 10, 15 years from now.

I think the difference with Adam is the industry seems to think Adam is a Rock Star (and I agree).
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Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler, David Bowie, et al sorta way.

The problem is you just not wake up one day and be a rock star. You even don’t make one album and be a rock star-
You work years with ups and downs to make it to this point.
But that is not the way Idol works. It is all about making money now.

As for Adam tour reviews for me it would only be newsworthy if he doesn’t bring it. He is the professional in this bunch and I expect from him to be the best, because it is not so far away from what he done the last years and he has the background to pull it off.

alex_band
Alex Band | Los Angeles, CA
Writing session with @KrisAllen4Real Is going great, lots of coffee being drank, getting two killer songs together. 1 minute ago

Such an efficient day for Kris!

Here’s the YouTube, Luv”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYnVGHy9Obo

on a totally unreleted note EVERYONE needs to see @joelkonechny’s twitter NOW.

luvadamlambert you had a typo in his name. It’s joelkonecny.

Wow. Why did I think that David Cook was somewhat successful. Apparently not so much. Casino Rama is NOT in Toronto. It is way north of Toronto, in the absolute middle of no where. Very sad.
Kelly Clarkson, Bill Cosby, Robin Williams, Black Crowes, Roger Daltrey and the Oak Ridge Boys are all playing there in the next month or so (why yes, I looked it up). Should we be sad for them as well?

In Canada, playing Casino Rama is NOT the definition of successful – it is 2 1/2 hours north of Toronto in a tiny tiny community in the middle of no where. Really, you would have to see it to believe it. Driving that far for a concert – would have to be OTT fans, IMHO. There are plenty of really nice smaller venues in Toronto – why not there?? Surprised after seeing Cook’s concert overseas.

I think the difference with Adam is the industry seems to think Adam is a Rock Star (and I agree).

It’s hard to be a rock star without having a product yet, and I honestly don’t think the product is going to be rock. That doesn’t mean it’s not going to be good.

*****

As for David’s tour, he is managed by Simon Fuller, as Adam may very well be. Do you think Fuller’s team is booking David in crap venues?

Eh, I don’t take what Meatloaf and Brian May (or whomever past or future) as anything other than something nice that I as a fan appreciate. Now did I like it more when it comes from say Brian May, who I do respect quite a bit? Sure. of course I do. But other than finding it nice personally and perhaps hopeful, musically speaking, that’s about it. Well except worrying that Brian May’s comments added to Adam’s already burdensome expectations.

But as indicators of success or industry cred? eh, not really. I mean it’s nice, but I don’t really think it means anything beyond making some fans happy, and for that, I enjoyed it.

That’s not to say that Adam will suffer the same fate as Taylor or Katharine. It’s just that it has happened before with mixed results. It’s certainly better than people with industry cred saying that Adam sucks, but the praise doesn’t guarantee success either.

And, IMO, it doesn’t mean that people who don’t like Adam are wrong. It just means they have different tastes than Slash, Meatloaf and Brian May.

Thank you Kirsten! It’s not about being “anti-Adam” or predicting that he’ll meet the same fate as Taylor Hicks. It’s just that some of us have seen it all before (although I’d agree that I don’t think there has been anyone from this show that has been as hyped and praised as Adam). All of the praise is great, but it can’t guarantee that Adam will be the megasuperstah that many expect him to be. None of us can predict how things will play out this fall when the idols’ albums are released. If you’re a fan, all you can do is hope for the best.

Obviously drek is drek. But a ‘primo’  voice can do a pretty good job of overcoming the worst material.

Not even Adam’s “primo” voice could save the crap that is No Boundaries. I’m sure hardcore Adam fans will disagree.

So using Taylor’s failure to form a prognosis for Adam’s future is comparing black to white.

But who’s doing that? Again, merely mentioning that Taylor was also praised by respected industry folks is not forming a “prognosis” for Adam’s future (negative or otherwise). No one is saying that Adam is Taylor Hicks 2.0. Just mentioning Taylor Hicks in the same breath as Adam Lambert is not a prediction of certain failure for Adam as a recording artist.

For the record, I am not anti-Adam. In fact, he was one of my favorites this season (though I’m far from a superfan). I also don’t consider Taylor Hicks a failure. As a recording artist he is not as successful as the other Idol winners, but he’s still making a decent living. He’s not a superstar, but I think he’s OK with that.

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I wonder who hooked Fantasia up with Oprah and current ‘The Color Purple’  success? It MIGHT have been Quincy.

That’s why I said in my post that industry praise had mixed results. It worked for Fantasia and it didn’t for Taylor.

Again, I’m not saying that praise will doom Adam. Far from it. The question was raised if any other Idols had gotten praise from industry greats and I answered it. Some industry greats went on to help some Idols with their careers, others did not. Adam may be helped by these greats, or he might not. We don’t know yet.

And somebody claimed that Brian May has never praised an Idol in his blog before. That’s not true. He famously ripped AI producers for creating Frankenbites and praised Ace Young.

Idol has been on for 8 seasons. Almost everything under the sun has occurred before. With mixed results.

Mixed results mean that sometimes it worked out for an Idol. Sometimes it did not. I don’t know how to be any more clearer. Sorry.

Wow, so now Adam’s tour reviews mean nothing because he performed musical theater, and we all know that’s the exact same thing as performing in the AI concerts. Yeah, Not. His reviews would only be noteworthy if he weren’t good? Naah, I think that would only apply if he had won American Idol, he didn’t, he’s not expected to be the best. When he’s praised that he is, I’m thankful.

“I think the difference with Adam is the industry seems to think Adam is a Rock Star (and I agree). ”

They will not consider him anything until his album drops. Adam the TV contestant has yet to release any new or orignal product. Rock stars have product. And by all accounts, Adam seems to be going the electro pop/dance/pop rock route based on the producers and writers that he’s been linked to thus far. So the “industry” might be really surprised come fall by Adam’s music.

As for Daughtry, it is far too early to write his/their summary as a band and where they stand in the rock world. They, at least, have a very successful record that went 5x platinum — successful touring history with some global touring – and what looks to be like another successful second album. Adam, in contrast, has nothing. Could he be as success or big? Sure. But then so could Kris and Allison. Right now, it’s all projection and hype. So it’s very easy to call some a rock star — but he’s still in the hermetic Idol bubble — and people are paying to see the American Idol franchise. It’s a machine. And when next year’s crop of 10 come around, they will go see them, too.

anijsch:

As for Adam tour reviews for me it would only be newsworthy if he doesn’t bring it. He is the professional in this bunch and I expect from him to be the best, because it is not so far away from what he done the last years and he has the background to pull it off.

Adam doesn’t have more experiences or professional training in terms of performing as solo singer in large arena. He had training in musical but that is two blades sword as it could lead to those ‘ott theatrical, no current’ reviews. There are some of such reviews although most of the time the reviews have to acknowledge the tremendous reactions from the audience. He had experiences performance as lead singer in front of small audience, but same as Kris. And that experience doesn’t stop him from going beyond small arena and reach and impress large crowd.

To me, saying Adam is the professional in this bunch and the great reviews he gets is nothing special is a downplay of his talent and effort to learn and grow (in a faster pace than his fellow idols).

Oh, yes! Praise for Adam is always beautiful to hear. My favorite line:

I don’t think anybody actually comprehends how good this guy is

I’m not usually one to give many chances, but even if Adam’s first album is absolute crap, I’ll keep following his career. And going to as many live shows as I possibly can. I really think he can become something as a performer and artist. Just seeing how much he’s improved over the course of a two month tour is astounding, and he’s got years ahead of him!

I don’t know a lot of Meatloaf’s music. I don’t know a lot about anyone of that generation of artists, actually… I just trust that for him to have been so successful, he has to know something about star quality when he sees it, and so it’s great to hear him declare himself an Adam groupie. Join the club… we have cookies.

As for David’s tour, he is managed by Simon Fuller, as Adam may very well be. Do you think Fuller’s team is booking David in crap venues?

I think the label has probably more to do with it, seeing how many of the same venues David and Kelly play.
David is not the biggest act in Canada, he won’t be playing the biggest venues. But it’s really great for him to be headlining some shows outside of US. And obviously that Casino doesn’t equal unsuccessful considering the acts playing there, including Kelly, no matter how anyone spins it. It’s not Toronto? Oh well, great thing Canada is also not just Toronto. And if people consider travelling miles to see David (or Kelly or anyone else) it speaks good for the artist.

Thank you, Kirsten, it’s so freaking difficult to know. We can alll put out statistics that are meant to tell, but ultimately nobody freaking knows. I mean whatever Brian Mays says doesn’t mean shit to about 99.89% of anybody who buys music. It’s the same for any other idol. They all ultimately, to me, have to have a song that means something. A song that means something has nothing to do at all with vocals. It’s just a hit or miss thing…sorry Adam fans, but I don’t believe that hype means all that much. It’s either going to resonate or not. I guess the most difficult thing is that you can either help or hinder its resonance….there’s such a fine line. Many Idol fans have dealt with this line….some better than others…but I’d not deny that some have been helped and some hindered. I don’t believe there’s a perfect formula. I would, however, believe that dissing any other current/previous contestant can’t even help.

You might like this one ‘“ Adam Lambert 4 ARTS 4 Kids Mobile

Someone created a youtube for donorschoose.org/adamlambert promotion. It’s really nice and I definitely love the song. This person really has great voice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J1NYRJfbkM&eurl=

That was really sweet, I hope blogs post that one as well. The pictures of the children were heartwarming.

You might like this one ‘“ Adam Lambert 4 ARTS 4 Kids Mobile

Someone created a youtube for donorschoose.org/adamlambert promotion. It’s really nice and I definitely love the song. This person really has great voice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J1NYRJfbkM&eurl=

OMG. that was beautiful. I’m crying a little.

“His reviews would only be noteworthy if he weren’t good? Naah, I think that would only apply if he had won American Idol, he didn’t, he’s not expected to be the best. When he’s praised that he is, I’m thankful.”

- And this is the benefit of not winning AI but still being treated as a co-winner. Just don’t expect too much from Adam because someone bested him out in the finale. And I do expect Kris to do better than Adam.

If I had a choice between being praised by those respected in my industry, or not being mentioned at all, which would I choose?

Hmmm, that’s a toughie.

Praise is always nice, it is never unwelcome.
Is it the golden ticket to Shangri-La? No. But it makes for a nice confidence boost.

I don’t know a lot of Meatloaf’s music. I don’t know a lot about anyone of that generation of artists, actually’ ¦

Ouch. (oh, I feel so old)

Praise is always nice, it is never unwelcome.
Is it the golden ticket to Shangri-La? No. But it makes for a nice confidence boost.

Exactly and it creates buzz and buzz makes people notice. This means free marketing.

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Praise is always nice, it is never unwelcome.
Is it the golden ticket to Shangri-La? No. But it makes for a nice confidence boost.

Exactly

don’t know a lot of Meatloaf’s music. I don’t know a lot about anyone of that generation of artists, actually’ ¦

Ouch. (oh, I feel so old)

Don’t ouch! Think of it this way, you guys got better music than we’re getting these days… I’m a bit jealous, really Am listening to Meatloaf as we type.

Don’t ouch! Think of it this way, you guys got better music that we’re getting these days’ ¦ I’m a bit jealous, really Am listening to Meatloaf as we type.

Yeah. I’m in my 20′s and I cringe at the words commercial and current. The radio is full of crap to me, so if you’re on it I probably won’t like you. Music has really gone down the drain in my opinion. Even the beats are becoming repetitive.

As for David’s tour, he is managed by Simon Fuller, as Adam may very well be. Do you think Fuller’s team is booking David in crap venues?

Duh! Well of course Adam and David won’t be booked in the same venues. David is just a pathetic winner with no success and Adam is a worldwide superstar who’s a legend in the making. Fuller is probably gearing up as we speak for his international stadium tour

In Canada, playing Casino Rama is NOT the definition of successful

So if you get booked there then you are not a success? I suppose the 100+ venues he’s been playing the last 8 months must all be dives as well. That sold out New York City venue in particular is the epitome of disaster. In fact maybe he and Kelly have been booked in a lot of the same venues since RCA scored some discount deal for failed Idol winners?

They will not consider him anything until his album drops.

I totally get your point, and he clearly needs to sell records, but he has gotten things that other idols did not. Getting WLL cleared, cover of Rolling Stone for a loser of AI.

Time will tell.

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I won’t quote the whole thing but WORD and DITTOES to what Trina posted. Oh heck, it’s worth repeating

As for David’s tour, he is managed by Simon Fuller, as Adam may very well be. Do you think Fuller’s team is booking David in crap venues?

Duh! Well of course Adam and David won’t be booked in the same venues. David is just a pathetic winner with no success and Adam is a worldwide superstar who’s a legend in the making. Fuller is probably gearing up as we speak for his international stadium tour

In Canada, playing Casino Rama is NOT the definition of successful

So if you get booked there then you are not a success? I suppose the 100+ venues he’s been playing the last 8 months must all be dives as well. That sold out New York City venue in particular is the epitome of disaster. In fact maybe he and Kelly have been booked in a lot of the same venues since RCA scored some discount deal for failed Idol winners?

Okay Allison’s Kool-aid picture cracks me up every time I see it.

Not sure what Obama would do at AirCanadaCenter — considering he kind of has his hands full at the moment. But whatever.

I’ll be curious to see if Adam can reach the benchmarks that Daughtry, David Cook, or even David Archuleta reached. Because the delusions of grandeur are getting ridiculous. But by all means, of course — time will tell. As early as November I’d say.

Well MOST of us realize there is no guarantee of anything; but it’s still good buzz no matter how people try and spin it. And most industry experts realize that buzz is a very good thing and helps.

YES! This is totally my view! Brian May, Meatloaf, Caty Perry, or anyone saying something positive certainly won’t guarantee success, but it will generate articles and blogs that discuss Adam’s musical talent instead of a bunch of made up crap, like all those goofy “diva” stories. It may not help, but it certainly can’t hurt his credibility when people who have been successful in the business say good things aout him, particularly when the comments are unsolicited.

I’ll be curious to see if Adam can reach the benchmarks that Daughtry, David Cook, or even David Archuleta reached. Because the delusions of grandeur are getting ridiculous. But by all means, of course ‘” time will tell. As early as November I’d say.

No, not November. We’ll see in 3 or 4 albums who sets the benchmarks. Who’s around and who’s not.
A freshman album is not a basis for any sort of mark, bench or not, in the music biz. The only benchmark set so far by an Idol is that set by Kelly. The jury is still out on Daughtry, and certainly on Cook and Archie.

Meanwhile, why is David playing a reservation Casino in Rama? How are his Canadian sale?

When it comes to big post-Idol success on the scale of Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood and Daughtry, just one thing matters and that’s getting your songs played on the radio. You need to have good songs that fit into a radio station’s playlist. One thing about Daughtry, even though they’re doing rock, the songs are certainly full of hooks and easy to sing along to. That’s why I think Adam will have more success if he follows a dance rock formula, as that kind of music is being played on pop radio.

Oh, and not that I’m a Claymate, but I really liked Clay’s first album. Full of excellent songs (and not just ballads), it sold very well, and not just because the Claymates picked it up. Of course, it helped that Clay had a hit single with “Invisible.” Too bad he didn’t follow that template for the followups….

I wouldn’t put any Idol alum up as a benchmark for success except for Kelly Clarkson. Two albums just ain’t enough to indicate what their long term prospects in the industry are (Carrie and Daughtry).

No, not November. We’ll see in 2 or 3 albums who sets the benchmarks. Who’s around and who’s not.
A freshman album is not a basis for any sort of mark, bench or not, in the music biz. The only benchmark set so far by an Idol is that set by Kelly. The jury is still out on Daughtry, and certainly on Cook and Archie.

Meanwhile, why is David playing a reservation Casino in Rama? How are his Canadian sale?

I would add Carrie with Kelly. Daughtry is just on his second album and Cook and Archie are still newbies.

ETA: Sherena, Carrie is on her fourth album.

ETA: Sherena, Carrie is on her fourth album.

Is she really?

I meant studio albums, of which she only has Some Hearts and Carnival Ride. And not holiday or live albums.

But yeah, I might put Carrie up there with Kelly too. It’s just that it’s easy to assume too much on Carrie’s success… after all, Kelly’s prospects looked a lot bigger after Breakaway than what happened. And Carrie is in country, which is a different ballgame than other, worldwide genres I think.

Meanwhile, why is David playing a reservation Casino in Rama? How are his Canadian sale?

His album sales? What sales are you asking about?

David has played all kinds of venues: small clubs, state fairs, festivals, old theaters with a history of featuring rock bands, college stages, casinos — both out in the boondocks and in Atlantic City or Las Vegas. He’s played Aspen. He’s played in poorer parts of the country. I saw him play in Virginia Beach, literally on a stage out on the beach next to the ocean. Loved that. Great atmosphere. I saw him at the Nokia theater in Time Square with Steve Van Zandt of the E Street Band in the audience. So, he runs the gamut. He’s an equal opportunity performer.

Casino Rama is a nice venue for David Cook to play (about 1.5 hrs drive from Toronto)…seating capacity is 5000, nothing to sneeze at. Should be a great show, I will definitely be there.

Waiting for more Canadian dates to be announced.

funny twitter I just spotted : “Oh my heck! My dad just called me from the Giants game and told me that David Cook is sitting right next to him! Im soooooooo jealous.”

As to Sunn’s question about Cookie’s sales in Canada, I have no idea, but I know he has vocal Canadian fans who have wanted concerts up in Canada for ages. There was a rumor for awhile that he would open a small tour for OurLadyPeace up there, but that didn’t pan out. The new rumor is that a band called the Script will open for David in the next phase of his wonderfully never ending tour.

I would add Carrie with Kelly.

I always forget about Carrie for some reason. That girl just doesn’t register with me at all.

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In Canada, playing Casino Rama is NOT the definition of successful ‘“ it is 2 1/2 hours north of Toronto in a tiny tiny community in the middle of no where. Really, you would have to see it to believe it. Driving that far for a concert ‘“ would have to be OTT fans, IMHO. There are plenty of really nice smaller venues in Toronto ‘“ why not there??

It is actually an hour and a half away from downtown Toronto. As as someone else pointed out the theater seats over 5000. Many tour stops are not in downtown locations and they have been well attended. Plus this is one Canadian date of many to be announced. I don’t think such a conclusion can be made from one tour date that has not gone on sale or happened yet.

Some Hearts and Carnival Ride are her only studio albums I thought.

These two plus the one coming out this fall and didn’t she do an album of cover tunes? Does that one count?

All of the AI 8 idols will have it tough. 30 percent decrease in music sales!!! I’m sure the economy is part of it – but pirating is a huge part of it. They will have to work their asses off to meet any of the milestones reached by previous idols. I just hope that their albums are released worldwide. Hopefully we’ll then see some decent stats as a result. While I’m an Adam fan, I just wish all 4 success. But if you look at the music industry in general there are so many singers out there with albums – its competition for the dollar or the pound, or the yen or whatever. Belts have tightened worldwide and I think we all need to lower our expectations of these idols and their success. Tours will be where it’s at and their chance to make money. Remember Kris got a million buck to cover expenses for producing the album, hopefully he’ll make money. Adam and the rest have to overcome all production costs before they even get paid. So in the end Adam could be successful, but still not make any money. It’s the biggest crap shoot in the world and the odds even with the bookies is even money. I have great sympathy for this idols and wish them all well – it’s a tough world out there and I hope that they have the intestinal fortitude to make the rough ride.

I’ll be curious to see if Adam can reach the benchmarks that Daughtry, David Cook, or even David Archuleta reached.

What benchmarks? And in comparison to what…other idols, industry standards, money earned, radio play, top 10 hits, album sales, product endorsement, promotional deals, concert revenue, international hype, youtube traffic, talk show visits, grammy awards, social and charitable contributions, magazine covers and articles and the list is endless. There is no clear cut barometer to measure any singer/idol to any other singer/idol. Until AI is history and we look back at the Singers who came off of the program (10 or 20 years from now) can we even begin to measure their success one against another. Until then, we can only see if the singer is still in the industry and is still a viable performer.

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Don’t ouch! Think of it this way, you guys got better music that we’re getting these days’ ¦ I’m a bit jealous, really Am listening to Meatloaf as we type.

Yeah. I’m in my 20′s and I cringe at the words commercial and current. The radio is full of crap to me, so if you’re on it I probably won’t like you. Music has really gone down the drain in my opinion. Even the beats are becoming repetitive.

thank you, young uns… (wheezes, shuffles out of room)

These two plus the one coming out this fall and didn’t she do an album of cover tunes? Does that one count?

Not unless she sold several million of it too! But if Carrie can go multi platinum again with Play On, I’d put her up there. But let’s wait and see. Still say country is a different world and that therefore comparing Carrie with Kradison doesn’t make a lot of sense. She can be Danny’s benchmark for success, and Kelly can be Allison’s, and Adam and Kris don’t really have one.

The new rumor is that a band called the Script will open for David in the next phase of his wonderfully never ending tour.

Ooh, The Script are a great band!! They’re Irish, and came out with their freshman album in 2008. It went multiplatinum.

funny twitter I just spotted : ‘Oh my heck! My dad just called me from the Giants game and told me that David Cook is sitting right next to him! Im soooooooo jealous.’ 

I knew David will go to Giant’s game today. Giant has the best baseball stadium in The United States and he has a day off today. Aww, David is in my territory these couple days. I will see him tomorrow at Fillmore in San Fran. YAY!!!

Remember Kris got a million buck to cover expenses for producing the album, hopefully he’ll make money. Adam and the rest have to overcome all production costs before they even get paid.

Actually both of these statements are untrue and are not the case. Kris got a guaranteed contract but he did not receive any waivers and is just as responsible as any other recording artists to “pay back” the initial costs out of profits, and recording Artists get paid for performing on an album whether the album clears costs or not…that’s the law.

Yeah. I’m in my 20′s and I cringe at the words commercial and current. The radio is full of crap to me, so if you’re on it I probably won’t like you. Music has really gone down the drain in my opinion. Even the beats are becoming repetitive.

I’m in my 20s and I think the great thing about this generation of music is that there are so many options that radio isn’t the end of it all.
I don’t think music has really gone down the drain, at all. It keeps getting better. We just have to know what to choose, radio is not the place for good music, is the place for commercial music. But the good and great one is still out there and we have so many ways to reach it. There’s so much music being played, I think if I had the money I could go to a good concert at least once a week.

The Script reminds me of the Corrs in musical style.

Squirrely
September 7, 2009 at 7:25 pm
The Script reminds me of the Corrs in musical style.

I don’t know, I hate the Corrs and I love The Script. The Corrs are more Folk/Pop, while The Script are straight Rock/Pop.

funny twitter I just spotted : ‘Oh my heck! My dad just called me from the Giants game and told me that David Cook is sitting right next to him! Im soooooooo jealous.’ 

He tweeted from the game before

http://twitpic.com/gvnmo – Three guesses what the orange hulk has in his cup. Happy labor day from San Fran! I love baseball. ~D

Also the Script actually responded to someone on Twitter yesterday who asked if they would be touring with him, they said yes. They’re fantastic. I saw them when they opened for Paul McCartney. Extremely talented guys.

I like the Corrs, their music is a bit softer than the Script but they remind me of each other.

1. I am impressed by what Meatloaf said about Adam. For anyone who is too young to remember Meatloaf, his album, “Bat out of Hell”, is considered one of the greatest albums of all time and is also sold over 43 million copies – US: 14× Multi-Platinum, UK: 10× Platinum, DEU: 2× Platinum, CAN: 20× Platinum, AUT: 23× Platinum.

Here is “Bat out of Hell (1977)”: Meatloaf – Bat out of Hell

Here a link to his biggest hit: I’d Do Anything For Love – Meat Loaf (1993)

2. If Meatloaf, Brian May, Katy Perry, Slash and all of other praise for Adam is being orchastrated by 19E, why aren’t they doing the same thing for Kris, Allison and now Danny?

3. The comparisons between Taylor and Adam don’t make much sense to me EXCEPT that all the hype in the world will not make an album a hit. Here’s a few reasons why Taylor’s album wasn’t a big hit:

- Taylor didn’t work on his album until after the tour. The project was done in 6 weeks.
- Taylor album included old, previously released Taylor Hicks songs: a few of Hicks’s originals which have appeared on his previous self-produced effort “Under the Radar”.

- Producer Matt Serletic had only heard about Taylor Hicks for the first time when he was approached for the Idol winner’s project.

- Taylor released his album late on December 12, 2006, without a single.

- Planned collaborations with other artists such as Robert Randolph and John Mayer were mentioned by Hicks in interviews, but failed to materialize due to scheduling problems and the goal to release the album before Christmas.

- The album was released without a single: “The Runaround” was the first track premiered online on a blog on November 21, followed by “Dream Myself Awake” and “The Right Place”, even before they were made available on Hicks’s official website and MySpace page. The full album was made available for preview on the VH1 website on December 5.

- The album promo wasn’t well planned or executed: “The Runaround” was originally intended to be the first single released from the album, and Hicks performed the song on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and The Martha Stewart Show in the run-up to the album’s release.

- “Just to Feel That Way” was announced as the first “official” single after nearly two months. Hicks admitted that fan reaction to the album contributed to the decision.

- The album’s singles weren’t hits: “Just to Feel That Way” and “Heaven Knows” peaked at #20 and #19 respectively on Billboard’s Hot Adult Contemporary Tracks chart.

Sure, Taylor’s album only sold 700,000 copies but it was not because of all the hype.

Well I’m pleased about the Canadian gig for Cookie. I like him and seems like a good gig, so yay for him and cool that some of his Candians fans may get a chance to see him without travelling quite as far.

As for Adam tour reviews for me it would only be newsworthy if he doesn’t bring it. He is the professional in this bunch and I expect from him to be the best, because it is not so far away from what he done the last years and he has the background to pull it off.

I don’t get this. Adam came in second in the karaoke contest and he has no experience in playing rock in big arenas. None of the Idols have experience with this, or they wouldn’t have needed AI. Kris won, I would expect the best reviews for him, as the winner. I don’t get how the person that didn’t win, who also has no skills in playing rock arenas, is expected to be better than the actual winner.

I don’t know about The Script, but I’m going to go check them out now. So do his fans think this would be a fit for David Cook?

Sure, Taylor’s album only sold 700,000 copies but it was not because of all the hype.

That’s bad?

like Brian May, I like Rob Cavallo’s band, but not enough to buy the CD., and I never cared for Meatloaf.at.all.

“Bat out of Hell” is an absolute classic. One of the best cds I have ever bought.

Q3 – ITA!

And let’s not forget there was no love lost between Tay-Tay and 19. He’s the only Idol winner that 19 Management did NOT sign. They signed Chris Daughtry instead and focused all of their energy on him.

As for Adam tour reviews for me it would only be newsworthy if he doesn’t bring it. He is the professional in this bunch and I expect from him to be the best, because it is not so far away from what he done the last years and he has the background to pull it off.

Okay, let’s put it this way. I completely see where people are coming from when they say that Adam has had tons of experience performing and should be able to bring it. Of course. He’s dedicated 17 years of his life to music, and he should be good! But what I have a problem with is the implication (and I’m not saying that you specifically are implying this) that it’s ALL experience, and that most or even many people, after having had as much “experience” on the scene as Adam, could perform like Adam, just because he’s a “professional.” No. It’s mostly Adam, and little bit the experience… as we can see, Adam is still growing even over the course of this tour as a performer. And a lot. If he were a truly experienced seasoned professional who’s already completely developed as an artist, that shouldn’t be happening.

Also the Script actually responded to someone on Twitter yesterday who asked if they would be touring with him, they said yes. They’re fantastic. I saw them when they opened for Paul McCartney. Extremely talented guys.

Me too. I don’t know if its because they are from the same country but they struck me and the folks sitting beside me as U2 lite. I remember getting a discussion with those folks about it.

I don’t know about The Script, but I’m going to go check them out now. So do his fans think this would be a fit for David Cook?

I think the audience would enjoy both. But they played longer than an hour at the McCartney concert I went to – and I hear that’s about as long as a DC set is.

Sorry double post.

I will use this one to say I just saw Danny and Adam do a brief bit on ET clowing around for photos. No interview – pics and promotion for the last week of tour.

I don’t know about The Script, but I’m going to go check them out now. So do his fans think this would be a fit for David Cook?

I think so. Not the same rock style (they have some soul/R&B thing going on), but very similar vibe in concert. It’s a pair that should work really well.

Ok, this is driving me crazy. But who’s meatloaf? Is he in rock? Dance?

lulwut
September 7, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Ok, this is driving me crazy. But who’s meatloaf? Is he in rock? Dance?

Wiki is your friend:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_Loaf

Sure, Taylor’s album only sold 700,000 copies but it was not because of all the hype.

That’s bad?

It’s perceived as so because he was the first idol winner to sell less than platinum, and because expectation was so high. If any newbie sold like that, the year Taylor’s cd was released, it would have been considered successful. Taylor underperformed given expections, I guess. I think if he had released within the normal timeframe, and had the benefit of Black Friday, that alone would have given him the shot at selling platinum. He didn’t record during the tour like the others, and so he didn’t drop until December. I don’t think his cd was that much worse than anyone elses idol debut, his timing sucked and his relationship with tptb didn’t help either.

Ok, this is driving me crazy. But who’s meatloaf? Is he in rock? Dance?

“Bat out of Hell” put Meatloaf to the top. It was a rock-opera. Absolutely incredible. If you haven’t heard any of the songs off this cd go to you-tube and type in “MeatLoaf”. There was also a “Bat out of Hell 2 which was a success. He also wrote other songs for people like Celine Dion”It’s all coming Back”. Meatloaf is an icon

ONTD_AI strikes again.

#weluvmikesarver is currently trending at #2 on twitter.

Papa Bear getting some love!

Yay, Ladyguard! I loved Meatloaf back in the day, and I had two of his CD’s downloaded on my I-Pod long before I’d ever heard of Adam. Meatloaf’s style was very emotive, theatrical and, in my opinion, fun, very similar to how I view Adam. I’m not surprised Meatloaf likes him, and I just can’t help but be encouraged by the fact that another industry professional is praising him!

Teri….I agree with you. I think that is what attracted me to Adam. His way of singing a song made me feel so good. It reminded me of how I used to feel when I listened to “Bat out of Hell’ and when I saw Meatloaf in concert. Absolutely fantastic.

As for Meatloaf, when I was just out of college and at my first real job, I was comparing notes about college with another recent graduate. She was telling me about her first real college date and she said, ‘he asked me if I liked Meatloaf, and I said to him, no, sorry, I don’t like hamburger.’ 

Okay that’s LOL (no offense)

I’m not a fan of Meatloaf per se, but one cannot deny Bat Out Of Hell. That is a great album.

Know what I was thinking. Meatloaf may feel a connection to Adam, he was probably one of those misfits out of place kids too. He’s very theatrical and probably see some of himself in Adam.

Nice words from Meatloaf.

Adam’s had a really good summer all around. I wish him lots of success in his album.FIngers crossed it can happen for him

And I always get giddy like a Kiddy when the likes of May et al have these awesome words for him. Doesnt guarantee anything of course(Sheesh, talk about stating the obvious ad naseum!)But……Its still fucking awesome to read stuff like that. Just like those great reviews

‘Bat out of Hell’  put Meatloaf to the top. It was a rock-opera.

thanks guys. This sounds like Adam.

Ok well I am back from a few day’s away from all things Idol so I was catching up and I only have one thing to say! I like Chicken!!!!

Ok well I am back from a few day’s away from all things Idol so I was catching up and I only have one thing to say! I like Chicken!!!!

Wings or thighs?

You guys put me in a Meatloaf mood – I’m listening to Paradise by the Dashboard Light, I forgot how much I love this song.

Wings or thighs?

I vote for wings with a good beer.

Well I am a thigh girl but you know to each his own!

Wings or thighs?

I like both

Squirrely….me too. You are so great. And thanks Q3 for the stats on Meatloaf.

Wings or thighs?

fired wings and grilled thighs.

Has it been a slow couple of days? Seen a cute bubble tweet on Danny’s twitter.. Made me smile

I’d add that I’m a sucker for dark meat…but I am sure everyone would interprete that the wrong way…so consider it NOT SAID.

Actually, meatloaf (the food not the man) was always my favorite as a kid…with bar-b-que sauce and chedder cheese between the layers and lots of onions and garlic.

Geesh….I just looked at the clock and it’s almost 6 here. No wonder all this food talk is making me hungry.

Okay, so on a lighter note, I thought this was a great interview of Matt, and it gave a little glimpse as to what happens to all the stuff they get thrown on stage …. made me laugh!

http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2009/09/matt_giraud_is_hoping_to_strik.html

“A number of reviews have mentioned the audience’s penchant for throwing undergarments at various Idols, especially runner-up Adam Lambert. When asked if he’s been inadvertently struck by such a flying object, perhaps intended for Lambert, Giraud replied quickly: “I’ve actually got a few myself.” And if fans are interested, the finalists store these items under the stage and they’ve dubbed it the “Wall of Fame.”

Ok I am off to watch Brave Heart.. I think they are just a group of young people who need support from there fans in a positive way.

Am more of a Kris fan then Adam fan,and I never say bad things about Adam. Kris is just more of my time of singer…As long as someone disagrees but does it without it sounding hateful then I will not say something about it. But if they say it hatefully then I will say something about it. I think it’s neat that alot of people are saying since great things about Adam. Do I wish that people would say such good things about Kris, Yes I do, and hopefully soon they well. Just because my taste is more like Kris doesn’t mean that I can’t think Adam is fantasic too.

You’re awesome. Thank you for existing and making my day happy again. I think from now on I will focus on comments like yours– you give Kris fans a good name. And it’s so cool that you can still like Adam despite the fanwars. Four for you, ilovekrisallen39, four for you. Off to delete my angry comment now because I’m not angry anymore.

I’m not a fan of Meatloaf per se, but one cannot deny Bat Out Of Hell. That is a great album.

I would deny it

But I agree it’s a very popular album and maybe affected some other artists/trends to a degree.

But I’m not a fan of Meatloaf the artist or dish. I’m a vegetarian. So no chicken either. Chik patties on the other hand? Yummers.

I was gone for a bit. This place looks different, but sounds the same.

I can have a little picture next to me if I want!

And it seems like I have this all wonky now. DBL post and all.

I’m vegan so unless that ‘chicken’ is made of tofu – I’ll starve.

thighs. Especially Adam’s.

I was watching Entertainment Tonight (ABC) this evening and I saw Adam and Danny in the Crest photobooth ad segment. What an odd pairing. lol

Does anyone know if this is a re-run?

I look at this way: we’re all pretty set in our opinions by now, there are no new converts to be made, and therefore there’s nothing to win or lose.

Well, I’m open to being converted. I’ve got my mind made up about Adam, (can’t wait for his CD, so I can hear what his sound will be, but he’s a tremendous talent — who could get stuck with a stinker of a CD, or could have a great CD. Time will tell.) But, as I hear positive comments on the other top 10, I have been going back and listening to their YouTube videos, and trying to hear what I might have been missing. I love Allison’s voice, and hope for good material for her. I think that Kris has a lot of talent, and have become more of a fan as I’ve paid closer attention after reading positive comments from his fans. And, Danny, well, he’s a work in progress, and shouldn’t be allowed to tweet. I’ve become more impressed with Matt from the recaps, (and then going to YouTube for his songs). I’m reading Alison’s posts, and trying to capture for myself what she hears in Anoop, but I’m not there yet. I won’t totally write him off, though, so keep singing his praises, Alison.

I can dislike a particular style of music, but still recognize that the person performing the music is very talented. Just not necessarily my cup of tea. Who knows, that may be what happens when Adam’s CD comes out.

Meanwhile, all of this talk about Meatloaf reminds me that I should go eat dinner.

Sure, Taylor’s album only sold 700,000 copies but it was not because of all the hype.

That’s bad?
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Well, considering 2006 we were in a full bull market and consumer spending was up — pre-global meltdown and pre-CD/album downturn– yup, that was bad. Add to that all the sales were all in the first 3 weeks — and plummetted thereafter? Yup, even worse. By 3/31/07 – Taylor’s album was 198 on the Bill Board Top 200 after 14 weeks out. The album fell off the BillBoard Top 200 by April 7. So yeah, it was not good.

ETA: Daughtry was still 4th on the BB – 17 weeks out.

Watching the US Open and they had a promo of a woman in a glittery dress and a big white afro wig all glammed out – Why did Adam’s drag picture come to mind?

We’ll get back to our hyperbole and gauntlet throwing right after this message from Adam and Danny about Crest White Strips!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPfc5RT2lL8

Aww that’s cute ty

We’ll get back to our hyperbole and gauntlet throwing right after this message from Adam and Danny about Crest White Strips!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPfc5RT2lL8

That was fun. Is it new? Adam’s hair looked longer and both looked really cute!

So, does anyone know if the Crest ad I saw tonight is new or just a repeat?

BTW, I love when Danny says “I look 23 again”.

Love the script. I also saw them open for mccartney and they reminded me of early U2. I think that a show with cook and the script will be a great show

So, does anyone know if the Crest ad I saw tonight is new or just a repeat?

I saw that ‘serious and deep’ pic before, so I think the vid was taken quite earlier but don’t know if it’s first aired tonight.

We’ll get back to our hyperbole and gauntlet throwing right after this message from Adam and Danny about Crest White Strips!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPfc5RT2lL8

Hey.. I’ve never seen this one.

BTW, I love when Danny says ‘I look 23 again’ .

it was adam that said that in the one i watched.

Neither David received ‘glowing’  reviews for their albums, they didn’t produce sustained top 10 singles, and they have both augmented their tours with covers or old material since they seemed to need to ‘fill out’  their repetoire

Here are the numbers.

David Cook has a platinum album and 2 platinum singles.

David has played 115 shows on the Declaration tour and played 111 unique set lists. He and the band pride themselves in making each concert experience unique. He has chosen from 30 different songs for the set list – only 9 of those songs have been covers and he usually plays at most 2 covers a night.

AndreaH
September 7, 2009 at 9:12 pm

BTW, I love when Danny says ‘I look 23 again’ .

I think that was Adam, it sounded like him to me.

BTW, I love when Danny says ‘I look 23 again’ .

I thought it’s Adam who said “I look 23 again”.

Danny should lose the glasses. He looks alot better w/o them but I guess if he’s got some eyeglass line coming in, that won’t happen. Danny is really his own worst enemy.

Carrie and Kelly have also included covers in their shows even with 2-3 albums of material so I’m not getting how including covers means much. Heck I saw Bon Jovi when Daughtry opened for them and they even did covers.

It ´s not new- this is the description on YT:

Adam Lambert & Danny Gokey get silly in front of the ET Crest Whitestrips Photo booth before the American Idol Tour!

Btw, I think it was Adam who said ‘I look 23 again’ .

Here are the numbers.

David Cook has a platinum album

The question is, how many of those are accounted for by Idol fans? We’ll see with the next one.

David has played 115 shows on the Declaration tour and played 111 unique set lists. He and the band pride themselves in making each concert experience unique.

That’s really cool, ngl.

I don’t think that it is accurate to say that David Cook needed to use covers to ‘fill out’  [his] repetoire.” Before going on Idol, DC had completed three albums with his first band (Axium), a released solo album (Analog Heart), an unreleased second solo album, an EP with MWK (which also had done a number of recordings). Excluding MWK and covers and including DCTR, his portfolio is over 70 songs long. Add in MWK, and the portfolio expands to close to 100 songs long. The net result is that he has done 21 non-cover songs on his tour (15 from DCTR, 1 from Analog Heart, 3 from MWK, 1 from his unreleased second album, and one from the recording sessions for DCTR). And DC fans would be thrilled to get more stuff from Analog Heart, MWK, or the unreleased catalog, or to get something from the Axium era. Just thrilled.

DC has indicated that he includes covers (he’s done 9 of them) in order to enable him to vary the set lists from show to show. I suspect that this is at least part of the reason, as his latest stats show that he has had 111 different set lists in his 115 shows. [The only period where he used the same set lists was when they were shifting bassists.] I also suspect that, as much as his fans would love to have him do more of the older stuff in his shows, the covers enable him to connect with casual fans at, say, festivals, who may well not know any of his pre-Idol music. Many acts include covers in their sets, even when they have a lot of original music in their repertoires for that reason.

All this to say: the fact that a given artist (be it one of the Davids, one of the AI8′ers, and or anyone else for that matter) includes covers in their sets does not necessarily mean that they view their music as inadequate or as needing to be filled out. They may just want to connect with that person in the audience who came with a friend or bought a ticket at a festival because it was convenient, who doesn’t know their music, but who could become a fan.

ETA #1: Heh. Jan: Jinx, you owe me a soda.

ETA #2: Liking the new edit feature, MJ. Very nice.

The whole city’s out of school supplies.I needed a few last minute things.oh well.I need to sleep.school tommmorow.be back after.peace out homies .good night.

Good night luv….

David has played 115 shows on the Declaration tour and played 111 unique set lists.

That’s really impressive!

Night Luv.

Nite Luv and me too. Got to do dishes

Cee yaa everybody.. me out

sleep tight, luv, and have a good day at school tomorrow. Don ´t forget to report here.

Is this what the Davids looked like lats year? I’m sending mj some chocolates. Yikes.

Add some booze, it will be more useful. I still think the Daughtry-Taylor wars were worse. I remember numerous blood lettings and boardicides. I was mostly a lurker back then though. This year was looking okay to me until recently. I don’t know how she does it though.

As for top 10 singles, David C has had three songs playing on the radio at the same time. I’m not a numbers follower, so I can’t recite how well they all did. But, I have to say, none of them are my favorites on the album.

For non-number followers, here are some good sources for numbers for David Cook, thanks to Ladymadonna at DCO.

Time of my Life peaked at #7 on HAC, #28 on Top 40, and #1 on AC (for 15 weeks) and sold platinum.

Light On (not yet updated to reflect platinum sales): peaked at #4 on HAC, #11 on AC, and #20 on Top 40

Come Back To Me (not updated) peaked at #6 on HAC, #11 on AC.

Time of my Life and Light On are still getting extensive play and charting on the recurrent charts. Come Back to Me is the Current Single and is currently #7 on HAC and #12? on AC.

I hope that is enough numbers for everyone.

ETA: And I agree, that these 3 singles are not the best songs on his album. I like Life on the Moon, Lie, Avalanche, and Declaration better than Come Back to Me.

Love, Peace and Glitter!!!

The whole city’s out of school supplies.I needed a few last minute things.oh well.I need to sleep.school tommmorow.be back after.peace out homies .good night.

Good night luv! I hope you have a terrific first day back at school. And I hope the guy that sits next to you in math class looks just like Adam (emo Adam of course!)

G’nite Luv have a good first day of school.

I think that was Adam, it sounded like him to me.

Yes, I think you’re right. I was doing paperwork while watching/listening to Entertainment Tonight and was surprised to see both Danny and Adam in the Crest ad. I don’t usually look at those ad segments but for some reason I glanced up tonight. What a surprise.

Is this what the Davids looked like lats year? I’m sending mj some chocolates. Yikes.

Add some booze, it will be more useful. I still think the Daughtry-Taylor wars were worse. I remember numerous blood lettings and boardicides. I was mostly a lurker back then though. This year was looking okay to me until recently. I don’t know how she does it though.

There was no Kat-Taylor? Huh.

I don’t think we’ve advanced to blood lettings and boardacides yet…

Carrie and Kelly have also included covers in their shows even with 2-3 albums of material so I’m not getting how including covers means much. Heck I saw Bon Jovi when Daughtry opened for them and they even did covers.

LOL Everyone plays covers, especially new artist because they only have one album. It has no significance whatsoever other than that’s what everyone does. Last concert I went was The Killers and yes, it checks, it got a cover. From small to big acts. Never fails.

I think the audience would enjoy both. But they played longer than an hour at the McCartney concert I went to ‘“ and I hear that’s about as long as a DC set is.

I know their solo concert here was one hour only (probably less), 11 songs, including a David Bowie cover.

I saw David Cook in Santa Fe, performed one cover and he was fabulous!! It was in an 800 seat theater and he held us in the palms of his hands! The only thing I was disapponted about was that he didn’t sing Billie Jean since I had read on this blog that he had sang it at the two previous concerts due to MJ’s death.

I don’t know about The Script, but I’m going to go check them out now. So do his fans think this would be a fit for David Cook?

I think the audience would enjoy both. But they played longer than an hour at the McCartney concert I went to ‘“ and I hear that’s about as long as a DC set is.

Well I’m sure they’ll adjust their set for working with David, but cool to hear some praise of them here and that it seems that they will be a good fit.

When answering which other idols got rave praises from industry experts right out the gate, someone can choose examples such as Taylor or Katharine, or from the pool of more ‘successful’ idols such as Kelly, Carrie or Daughtry, or include both to give a more thorough view.

It’s from the choice of these examples that Adam fans get how the poster takes with the praises for Adam. Choosing Taylor and Kat actually doesn’t make the implication any obscure and accusing Adam’s fans for over-reacting to an ‘answer to a question’ is almost an insult to their intelligence.

And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

I’m sorry, I really got involved in the AI world during S5. That’s when I read everything. That’s why I know the lore of S5 best of all. As time went by and I realized that every year is the “same old song”, I stopped paying as much attention to every minor detail. So, I know that ZZ Top liked Cookie, but I don’t know who else did. I’m sure others in the industry floved him too.

So, off the top of my head, without doing any research, I answered the question if any other Idols had received praise from people in the industry. The question wasn’t “Please give me a detailed list of each and every person in the industry who has ever praised an Idol” and I never claimed to provide that answer.

Please note that I also did provide examples of industry praise for an Idol that is successful. Fantasia has massive respect in the industry, tops radio in her format, has been successful on Broadway and moved a boatload of CDs. Just because there are not a lot of Urban fans on this board doesn’t mean she’s a failure. I also mentioned the Davids who are successful.

I did this to demonstrate that praise is nice (and explicitly said it as well), but can have mixed results. I thought I gave an even handed response.

I’m sorry, but off the top of my head, I simply do not know if Carrie or Kelly got industry praise. I’m sure they did, but I can’t state it as a known fact. Reba loves Kelly, but I don’t know if that was true when she first came off Idol. I honestly don’t remember anybody who gave props to Daughtry other than his producers, but I’m sure there were some. I don’t follow everybody religiously and I don’t believe that it is a requirement to post on this board that I do.

Believe me, I had no hidden agenda. I was not insulting anybody’s intelligence. I hate that I cannot be my normal pedantic self and answer questions without people accusing me of being a h8ter. I don’t hate Adam. He seems like a really nice guy.

Thanks for the info dyg1

It ´s not new- this is the description on YT:

And let’s not forget there was no love lost between Tay-Tay and 19. He’s the only Idol winner that 19 Management did NOT sign.

I could be wrong, but I think Taylor refused to sign with 19 management, opting for The Firm, instead. This was a fatal mistake, imo.

Good night Luv. Have a great first day of school. *squeeze*

So I’ve been mostly lurking around here, and after skimming thru this thread I feel like a woman without a country. Or maybe I can be everyone’s friend. I am such a fan of both Kris and Adam that this discussion/debate is odd to me. I split votes all season, voted Adam for the finally, and was just as pleased that Kris won. I LOVED seeing Kris, Adam, Matt and Allison live, and appreciated the rest of the 10 to some degree or another. When I see the great comments by Meatloaf or whoever about Adam I don’t think that means something bad about Kris. Maybe I have to declare to be a Kris fan, though, because as much as I enjoy Adam I don’t obsess over his day to day hairstyle, so I suppose I am no true fan

from Danny

dannygokeyWow this is old, did they just air it tonight??? http://bit.ly/2bXQJS

I love this wish, luv! I’m going to double it!

Good night luv! I hope you have a terrific first day back at school. And I hope the guy that sits next to you in math class looks just like Adam (emo Adam of course!)

Last part of Allison’s LA Times interview: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/americanidoltracker/2009/09/allison-iraheta-the-ultimate-interview-part-four.html

A little short and not a lot of insight, which is a shame because I felt I learned more than expected with the other parts. And I think she was being too kind about the judges, or Simon at least. I’ll never forget his “just beg,” stuff. Ugh. Oh well, good for her to just remember mostly the good stuff and moving on to the next step.

Oh and I really did LOL in real life about her “You can’t sing about cake.” Yeah, I agree and yeah that song is just…odd. Especially when song by Richard Harris. Yikes! At least with Donna Summer it has a good beat, you can dance to it.

And I agree, that these 3 singles are not the best songs on his album. I like Life on the Moon, Lie, Avalanche, and Declaration better than Come Back to Me.

I agree. All 4 of those songs are much better. I really hope RCA gets it right the next time. As for the Script touring with David..I think that’s wonderful. My browser isn’t letting me read prior posts so if I’m repeating what someone else said, sorry. I think David has a knack for picking really good opening acts. I saw the Script open for Adele at a concert and they were terrific. They’re one of those bands that sound just as good live as they do on the album and I love the fact that some of their songs are infused with a bit of an R&B sound. They probably will get equal billing. The ideal situation would be for them to open for David in the U.S. and then for them to tour a bit internationally and have David as the opener. The Script are pretty big abroad. I’m hoping that together they can fill some big venues.

And I agree, that these 3 singles are not the best songs on his album. I like Life on the Moon, Lie, Avalanche, and Declaration better than Come Back to Me.

Life on the Moon should have been the debut single – awesome song!

Bestai

For me, what there is in common between Bryan May, Slash and Meatloaf is that they all have ties with AI and thus more susceptible to praise a contestant.

Bryan May and Slash have both mentored episodes. For people who don’t remember Bryan gave a rave review of Paris Bennet too.
Paris who? Exactly.
Meatloaf had that poorly executed duet (even I will admit it) with princess Kat, only to be killed by the AI fans who thought that superstar Kat didn’t deserve such bad treatment. So excuse me if I am a bit cynical by this whole deal.

What other contestants have those three complimented this season?

This season, Slash commented on his blog that Allison didn’t deserve to be eliminated and Bryan May had very nice things to say about Kris after the final, I think it was along the lines of “He deserved to win too and will have a carreer after that”.

An artist who has been on AI is much more susceptible to praise an AI contestant, that’s even more the case if he/she works with a good friend (in this case Cavallo).

Everything is not black or white, even tough I have my reserve on these praises, I still think it’s nice for Adam and a little contribution to the summer of awesome news on his front.

Um, yingyang, REMEMBER, that is information for the privileged few. Not everyone is privy to that … Until we hear the Prime Directive from the Glittery Alien, we Must. Not. Act.

Everyone else, talk amongst yourselves and pretend you never heard this conversation …

I wonder, now that Danny is signed, if the LA Times will interview him…or if they will leave that to “Country” embracing media?

Wow, that sounds bad and I don’t mean it to…hopefully what I’m thinking comes across because I can’t think how to say it.

Believe me, I had no hidden agenda. I was not insulting anybody’s intelligence. I hate that I cannot be my normal pedantic self and answer questions without people accusing me of being a h8ter. I don’t hate Adam. He seems like a really nice guy.

Kirsten, I completely understand where you are coming from. The last season that I paid very close attention to was Season 5, also. That’s why when it comes to Adam (who I love, btw), I just take a wait and see attitude. I hope for the best, but I will never again buy into the “hyperbole,” for lack of a better word. It’s tough to get just the right ingredients to make a hit song. I think Adam has a better chance than Taylor, simply because he is more current and he has tptb behind him. That shoud help a lot. But again, I won’t count my chickens before they hatch.

Someone said the other day that Taylor was considered a joke the year he won, and if you frequented this board then, you would know that nothing could be further from the truth. Sure, Taylor had his crazy dancing side that he displayed on the show sometimes, but there was a whole other side to Taylor, too. And there were many who considered him to be the most musical and experienced winner at that time. He was someone who was definately considered to have paid his dues and had solid pre idol music. I remember Ryan saying to Taylor that he was so glad that he had won that year because Taylor had finally made it “cool” to win American Idol. And then, everything went down hill, of course.

I DON’T EXPECT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ADAM, BTW. I’m stating it because for those of us who are either old timers, or like me, barely watched the next two seasons, it explains our hesitancy to get our hopes up.

And Kirsten, I fondly remember your stories about how Taylor would go out and feed all the starving children of the world and save the earth from certain destruction (from asteroids or some such), and still make it back in time for the AI concert. (That was you, right?) See, she mocked the hyperbole surrounding Taylor at the time. It was funny.

I wonder, now that Danny is signed, if the LA Times will interview him’ ¦or if they will leave that to ‘Country’  embracing media?

Wow, that sounds bad and I don’t mean it to’ ¦hopefully what I’m thinking comes across because I can’t think how to say it.

I think I understand what you are saying, Tess. The LA Times might not be the target market for the music Danny will be doing.

I wish they would interview Danny, though, as I thought the interviews with the other idols were in depth and revealing. We usually don’t get interviews like that.

What about the Elle photoshoot? Will Danny be included now?

You are so right. Season 5 was like a bloody death match every single day.

FOr real? LOL.

I missed season 5 and 6, I couldnt stand most of the contestants those 2 seasons, even though I managed a few episodes, so I’m surprised it got that much discussion on the blogs..Idol bubbledome for ya Same shit every year I guess, love it

I think it’s interesting that both Brian May (Queen) and Meatloaf were into the “Rock Opera” genre. IMO, that’s where Adam should reside.

And Kirsten, I fondly remember your stories about how Taylor would go out and feed all the starving children of the world and save the earth from certain destruction (from asteroids or some such), and still make it back in time for the AI concert. (That was you, right?) See, she mocked the hyperbole surrounding Taylor at the time. It was funny.

LOL. Yep, that was me (and it was a lot of fun to play the OTT insider). I remember how Taylor couldn’t possibly have been a diva in a restuarant in Seattle (not because of the true fact that the Idols never had a chance to go into Seattle due to their schedule) because he was too busy doing open heart surgery using the wires from his guitar to do the stitches. LMAO. I also loved reporting on all the (made up) celebrity endorsements he got. Of course, all those celebrities were dead (and had been for years). I’d almost forgotten about that part. Man, we had a lot of fun back when Idol wasn’t so serious.

However, I did feel the need to get the facts out there for all to see.

This is the point of having comment threads…there are always 2 sides to every coin. That being said, though, numbers are not always the best way to get facts out on the table. Having dealt with them professionally for years I can tell you that any statistical data can be manipulated and will always be geared favorably towards the issuer of the data.

I look at the big broad picture when analyzing success…and album sales and single sales are a very small portion on the success meter, for me. And I will be analyzing my fav the same way….the big picture will tell the tale.

Same shit every year I guess, love it

It really is. And while Adam gets all the love that Taylor got here in Season 5, poor Danny is Kat McPhee. Posters from Season 5 will know exactly what I’m talking about.

Nope, Tess. DC does not do the entire album every night on tour. That’s part of rotating the set list. But the 11 songs that he has done the most are all originals of his and 10 of those are from the album. Of his top 17, 12 are from the album, 3 are pre-Idol or unreleased, and 2 are covers. Only Avalanche, Permanent (for obvious reasons), and My Last Request (which was only on the itunes preorder) have not gotten heavy play on the tour. [Well, and Magic Rainbow. But he's not singing the Rainbow on tour.]

Context on numbers. The most recent set of numbers for the chart year (starting in mid-November) that I could find has DC at #7 for the chart year through week 30. [That's about 5 weeks old.] I anticipate that at least a couple of newer albums—Eminem and Hannah Montana–will pass DC by the end of the chart year. It still looks good for him to end up in the top ten, though I make no promises. So, for the music market that he is in, yes, DC has performed well.

As bad as the fanwarring has been the last couple of years I agree that nothing worse than season 5. That was…ugly. November/December 2006 was a time I never want to revive.

AndreaH
September 7, 2009 at 10:13 pm

I think it’s interesting that both Brian May (Queen) and Meatloaf were into the ‘Rock Opera’  genre. IMO, that’s where Adam should reside.

I would love it if he did some rock opera.

I think Kat was Danny on steroids. The big bad world out there does use album and single sales to measure success. Also radio play. But of course you can be a critical success and a commercial flop. Usually in Idol it’s the other way around.

As bad as the fanwarring has been the last couple of years I agree that nothing worse than season 5. That was’ ¦ugly. November/December 2006 was a time I never want to revive.

Yes, the album drop time was truly ugly. MJ had to shut down the site and change it so we had to log in (lots of fake accounts and drive by attacks). All the fans groups tried to eat each other. I don’t know if the passive-aggressive fans were worse or the outright aggressive ones.

I think this year might be a little rough…eep!

Wow, I am gone for one day and I miss a lot of posting

Ah well, it gives me lots to read when I’m taking breaks from proofreading!

I will say that as we get ready for the single/albums thing for S8 that I am so, so glad that I don’t have a real favorite this year… it’s painful! Went through it last year with the Davids… this year I’m just sitting back with my kettle corn and watching, lol.

Yeah, I’m with you, tierbee. Last year was my first following Idol on line like this, but I had a dog in that hunt (so to speak). This year will be my first to be on-line but not invested.

FolkFan
September 7, 2009 at 10:17 pm

See that is a statistic a fan can be really proud of if David ends the year being among the top 10 in album sales. That says he has found a fanbase and that he is a viable Artist and it bodes well for continued success.

It’s like my favorite of favorites, Pink Floyd, who’s album Dark Side of the Moon stayed on the billboard charts for 741 weeks…thats 14 years of continued success and means that the album was viable for several generations of music lovers. And the album is still carried in stores today and still sells a “countable” number every month.

Comment on Taylor.

I was not an AI watcher that season. I would usually see the recap because AI was on right before “House”. I thought Taylor was a joke. I did watch the finale. I did not vote. I wanted him to win because he perforrmed better thatn Mcphee, but I thought that his chances of making it were nil. I could not imagine what genre he would fit in and how he could possilby be current.

My thoughts at the time were that if Taylor and Mcphee were the best of the rest then it must have been a pretty lame season.

After that, I has no desire to even see the recaps of S6 and S7.

Kirsten I respect your opinion and a lot of your posts make me laugh. Please continue to be your ‘pedantic’ self. It is appreciated!! Sometimes when I find myself getting too fantardy I go back to that list you posted a while back with the 10 signs of a idol fantard. Or something like that (I cant really remember haha)! It keeps my head on straight

I think this year might be a little rough’ ¦eep!

Yeah, I’m already scared. This should be one for the record books. Heh.

Grab your popcorn!

First Clip from 2012 Is Here!
http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEc1jiffOn45eh

Bonus goodie – Japanese Trailer
http://www.movieweb.com/video/VIqvHtvuFF4Eur

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Um, yingyang, REMEMBER, that is information for the privileged few. Not everyone is privy to that ‘ ¦ Until we hear the Prime Directive from the Glittery Alien, we Must. Not. Act.

Everyone else, talk amongst yourselves and pretend you never heard this conversation ‘ ¦

Why don’t I get to be among the privileged few :/

Not cool y’all.

Yes, the album drop time was truly ugly. MJ had to shut down the site and change it so we had to log in (lots of fake accounts and drive by attacks). All the fans groups tried to eat each other. I don’t know if the passive-aggressive fans were worse or the outright aggressive ones.

I think this year might be a little rough’ ¦eep!

I always think passive aggressiveness is worse lol
These doomsday predictions for November are making me scared… and a bit excited.

‘ ¦ don’t give a crap about anything anyone says on here. They are busy having actual careers

Forget having careers, they’re having actual LIVES.

The rest of us? uhh yeah.

this year I’m just sitting back with my kettle corn and watching, lol.

mmmm kettle corn. Okay that’s it! All this food talk has made me hungry. Forget the hyperbole about Adam, Meatloaf’s true crime is having a stage name of food, thus by allowing food to be a part of the conversation, thusby making me hungry. *shakes fist* Damn you Meatloaf!!! (off to store now)

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These doomsday predictions for November are making me scared’ ¦ and a bit excited.

Hey, its a right of passage! LOL. You’ll be alright. We’ll be here to hold your hand.

Oh, just glancing at this last page. Looks like I’ll be deleting a bunch of posts. Wait for it.

These doomsday predictions for November are making me scared’ ¦ and a bit excited.

Don’t be skurred, it’s only 2009, not November 2012 and the end of the world!!!! (couldn’t resist, and with that, there is a Pinot Noir and some kettle corn with my name on it).

FolkFan thanks for the facts and statistics.

I think this year might be a little rough’ ¦eep!

Yeah, I’m already scared. This should be one for the record books. Heh.

I may have to start weening myself off of the blogs before the albums drop – you guys got me scared.

Um, yingyang, REMEMBER, that is information for the privileged few. Not everyone is privy to that ‘ ¦ Until we hear the Prime Directive from the Glittery Alien, we Must. Not. Act.

Everyone else, talk amongst yourselves and pretend you never heard this conversation ‘ ¦

Why don’t I get to be among the privileged few :/

Psst, Sherena ‘“ You totally ARE!!! You run the place, sister.

Squirrely
September 7, 2009 at 10:21 pm

AndreaH
September 7, 2009 at 10:13 pm

I think it’s interesting that both Brian May (Queen) and Meatloaf were into the ‘Rock Opera’  genre. IMO, that’s where Adam should reside.

I would love it if he did some rock opera.

Me too!!!….Queen, The Who, Meatloaf have all their albums that I still listen to…and I think Adam doing something along those lines with a “updated sound” (whatever the hell that means) would be great. The only thing I disagree with is saying that is where he should reside. I think that is one genre he would be amazing in. But also soft rock, alternative, ballads, electronic, ect ect.. For me Adam’s voice brings the songs to life. (yes even No Boundaries for me (for You) for me) He encapsulates the feeling of whatever genre he sings and emotes through amazing articulate vocals the essence of the song. IMHO

S5 was the highest rated season of Idol ever. And six of the top 10 released albums that landed in Top 10 of the BB charts on their opening week. That’s something that no other season had equaled. I could see S8 possibly getting four albums into the Top 10 but even that will be tough. I was a huge fan of Elliott that season (and still am).

S7, I really liked Archie but lost my fandom when his album dropped. Not my thing. This season, I like everyone a bit and don’t dislike anyone so I’m just interested to see how they do. I’d probably pick Danny as my fav because I like the r&B guys.

I don’t expect the same dust up this November as S5 though. Kris and Adam seem too low key and are friends.

I’m really upset that this thread turn to utter CRAP today.

I’m going through the posts right now. Somebody has ALREADY been banned. I’m sure there will be more.

Why don’t I get to be among the privileged few :/

Psst, Sherena ‘“ You totally ARE!!! You run the place, sister.

yay

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… just because I am an Adam fan, doesn’t mean that I cannot be a fan of other AI8 finalists and even root for their success (which I do). I actual can’t see how Kris’, Allison’s, Danny’s, Matt’s, Anopp’s or anyone else’s success could do anything to diminish Adam’s. So while I’m on my soapbox — #signMattG.

This waiting for Adam’s album is no different than waiting to see what he was going to do each Tuesday night. You know he is going to take risks. You just hope that he doesn’t fall flat on his face.

Adam is not predictable. Who knows what the album sound is going to be. He delightedfully suprised me every Tuesday. I hope he continues to do so. Who knows, maybe this time the risks will not work.

I may have to start weening myself off of the blogs before the albums drop ‘“ you guys got me scared.

Kettle corn. I’m telling you, it’s the cure

I feel your pain, though. Last year it was *agonizing* — and then I felt so silly about angsting over this guy I don’t even know… and like my angsting was going to make any difference in his career! Oh well. I have graduated now from angsting to fretting so I’m making progress.

Hi everyone. Finally able to get a few vids from last night in GRand Rapids out to you.
Enjoy.
Heartless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMOwHg6mr5c

Starlight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-EU-Zxi2Wg

Bowie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9IR-_1IJj8

Short vid of crazy entitled fans!!! not me screaming or talking!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUv-4IP-MPs

Q3 even your mini-rants are stated so eloquently. Dang, you are good. Can now go to bed happy…good night all.

Didn’t Meatloaf love David Cook last season? I think he is a kind and generous man who is lavish with his praise.
I can see how he would love Adam’s dramatic flair.

Will Adam’s first album be a hit? I don’t care. I just hope that it is artistly OK and that I like it.

Exactly….I like to hear industry big wigs say nice complementary things about Adam (or Kris, Allison, Matt, Oh heck any of them) but that will not make me buy his music or not buy his music. I really like Carly Smithson and I tell you she has not gotten a lot of love but I still listen to anything she comes out with. I really also like Kimberley Locke from season 2 have everything she has done. She has not had tremendous success but I still buy her music and still like a lot of it. (She has had 3 #1 dance hits and 4 #1 AC hits) I buy what I like. I know I will like Adam’s album. Everything so far I have heard from him (not just AI stuff) I have liked even genre’s I don’t. Crawl thru Fire is not my type of song but for some reason Adam makes it very likable. Kiss and Tell nothing like Crawl thru fire more a dance electronic song and I love that one too. So I am pretty sure unless Adam records the Barney Song I am going to at a minimum like his album regardless what anyone says. (I may even buy it with the Barney song)

I may have to start weening myself off of the blogs before the albums drop ‘“ you guys got me scared.

I’m starting to feel the same way, though I expect to like Adam, Allison, and Kris’s debut efforts about the same. Some good songs, some not, but good enough overall to get them to a 2nd CD, where they can really shine, (I hope.) But, I’ll buy Adam’s CD anyway, and will take a listen to the other 2, and quite likely buy them, too.

I sure was hoping for a hint of Adam’s song for 2012 in the trailers, but no such luck.

Season five people would go to clandestine sites to plot strategy and then come back to mj’s to fight for their idol. Is that happening again? It was ugly but some really thrived on it.

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I must admit I was skeered for Adam when the tour first started and was greatly relieved that he was accepted so well all over the country. The reason I enjoy the compliments from industry peeps is because they are talking about his music, not his orientation.

I love Meatloaf!

Truthiness:

I don’t know about The Script, but I’m going to go check them out now. So do his fans think this would be a fit for David Cook

Maybe? I’ve never seen them live, so no idea how that will work. Except that the potential for them and DC’s band to form a mutual admiration society is high, since it’s happened so far with every other band that’s opened for them.

The Script don’t remind me of the Corrs at all. They remind me mostly of early Maroon5 — a little less dance-y and a a little more straight pop/rock than the current Maroon5 stuff. The Script’s lead singer sounds eerily like Adam Levine on occasion.

So they’re a little lighter pop/rockish than the previous openers, but I think they’ll fit fine, especially if they rock up their sound live, like DC and the guys do.

Season five people would go to clandestine sites to plot strategy and then come back to mj’s to fight for their idol. Is that happening again? It was ugly but some really thrived on it.

Nope! Or if it is I haven’t been invited. If they were clandestine sites how did ppl find out about them? Were there betrayals? Dramatic uncoverings?

ETA: “smite my joy” is going to my phrase of the year

ETA 2: Why does everyone call Kirsten Kristen

Ivyrae,
thanks for the great vids. They are gorgeous!

I’ll be deleting half this thread when all is said and done.

SO tired of the fanwarring and the OTT defensiveness.

READ MY GUIDELINES

If you are a fan who can’t stand it when your favorite is criticized YOU NEED TO FIND A FAN FORUM FOR YOUR FAVORITE STAT and BEGIN POSTING THERE.

Meta discussions about my blog, about the fans here, about the tone of the thread IS ABSOLUTELY OFF TOPIC!

http://mjsbigblog.com/?page_id=1172

And I’ll tell you, it all started off with a long post from Tess, complaining about the adam detacractrs. And it pretty much went downhill from there. JUST UGH.

I’m really upset that this thread turn to utter CRAP today.

you can have some of my kettle corn and pinot noir, if it will make you feel better. Made me feel better

The Script don’t remind me of the Corrs at all. They remind me mostly of early Maroon5 ‘” a little less dance-y and a a little more straight pop than the current Maroon5 stuff.

To the knowledgeable The Script fans, what are some of their best songs? Which ones should I start with?

The song that actually charted in the US is The Man Who Can’t Be Moved. I do know that they had previous singles in Europe, though.

I think it’s simple. We think someone’s great. And we want to see who else thinks like we do. So when others do (especially expert others) we feel like we’ve been proven right. We feel reassured or even vindicated. Unfortunately, if it goes the other way we get defensive. And if someone else gets the praise we feel slighted. Somewhere along the line, these singing dudes and dudettes become an extension of ourselves. We invest our selves in them. Hence, the dueling and scrapping.

For myself, after seeing Susan Boyle and Adam Lambert plastered all over MSNBC I finally gave in and had a look and a listen on youtube. So, I felt great for Susan and stumped by Adam. A few videos later I came to the conclusion that he was a genius and I started scouring the internet for expert opinions about his voice. And, since then, well, I’m still looking for proof that I’m not insane (in this particular instance)… so when Brian May and Meatloaf and anybody else thinks highly of Adam’s talent … they very kindly make me feel that I’m not totally out to lunch.

I don’t know if this is news or anything (and I kind of hate to admit that I was watching the All-Michael-Jackson-Death-Show-All-The-Time show, but I was really watching it for the interview with Paul and Ringo…it’s true! 9/9/9!), but I saw Danny and Adam on ET. They were doing some photobooth thing and making funny faces.

Anyway, here it is: Adam and Danny on ET

Q3, from another thread, to keep things on topic

girlygirl: Q3, How do you know Adam was working today? The only tweet I saw from Adam today was the one wishing everyone a Happy Labor Day. I figured he simply had a day off for once’ ¦

It’s in the headlines thread ‘“ Pittsburgh Gaz interview. Looks like no rest for Kris or Adam. But Adam had to go to California again, I think.

I don’t think that Meatloaf was referring to today. I think this was in reference to his previous meeting with Adam that we all know about, with Rob Cavallo and Meatloaf. Just because this interview was published today, doesn’t mean it took place today. It was via phone and I bet you donuts to dollars, is like a month old at this time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGzh_M-UvgQ It happens, we’ve seen it with articles from FL recycled weeks later as new articles for MN, and there was one about Gokey that was during the show and they published just like 2 weeks ago. They just slapped a current date on it and released it.

Didn’t Meatloaf love David Cook last season?

I don’t recall that. I do know they met fairly recently at Cavallo’s place where David and he were goofing around with a guitar and Meatloaf was singing to him.

I always think passive aggressiveness is worse lol
These doomsday predictions for November are making me scared’ ¦ and a bit excited.

That’s how I’m feeling too.
I might also have to start weening myself from the blogs, it sounds like things will get uglier when november rolls around. EEP

Truthiness:

To the knowledgeable The Script fans, what are some of their best songs? Which ones should I start with?

Sadly, that’s not me — I’ve just heard the song FolkFan mentioned (which I like) and a couple others (my favorite is “Before the Worst ” — and now that I hear it again, I could totally hear Kris doing something like it. Huh.)

Anyway, I’m looking forward to hearing/seeing youtube performances from them when they open for DC and the guys. I was totally won over by Ryan Star while he opened for them, bought GRO’s CD, having never heard them before and… well, tbh, I’m still on the fence about Crash Kings. But maybe that will turn around.

I love hearing new-to-me music, particularly from performers who are strong live (and do *not*need @#$% autotuning) — DC’s tour has been a great source for that so far.

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Sassykatz:

I don’t recall that. I do know they met fairly recently at Cavallo’s place where David and he were goofing around with a guitar and Meatloaf was singing to him.

Oh, that was so funny. I’ve never been a huge Meatloaf fan (and adamaloha, I think I must as old as you, because I can remember when the Meat was fresh a newbie) but as always, anyone with a lot of energy will get my attention, and he certainly has a *lot* of energy.

But more than that, anyone who can make DC laugh like Meat did is Good People in my book.

Thanks, dv, for the Kelly Clarkson videos. I’ve got to go see her in concert. The Greatest Man I Never Knew is one of the saddest songs ever. When it gets even close to the “the man I thought could never die has been dead almost a year” part it makes me tear up. It reminds me so much of being a child.

Anyway, I’m looking forward to hearing/seeing youtube performances from them when they open for DC and the guys. I was totally won over by Ryan Star while he opened for them, bought GRO’s CD, having never heard them before and’ ¦ well, tbh, I’m still on the fence about Crash Kings. But maybe that will turn around.

Have you listened to Neetobreathe’s new album? I think that’s probably the best out of those opening acts.

I deleted all the meta discussion except for the remarks about Season 5. I was mostly concerned with posters commenting on how other commenters were posting, posters bitching about rival fan groups or the tone of the thread.

I want to remind everyone again:

I won’t tolerate fans jumping down the throats of people who criticize their favorites. Why yes, a poster is allowed to say they think David Cook’s album is lame without undergoing the third degree.

And sorry, posters are perfectly in their right to play devils advocate when Meatloaf praises Adam without his fans piling on and complaining about the “negativity”. If you’re looking for puppies and rainbows or preaching to the choir, there’s a vast array of fan groups out there that will meet your needs quite nicely.

Anyway, here it is: Adam and Danny on ET

Yeah it was posted earlier in the thread, it was listed as Crest Whitestrips clip, IIRC. Danny confirmed in a recent Tweet (“Wow this is old, did they just air it tonight???”) what we (and by we, I mean fantards like myself gathered, that this was ollldd, from week 13 old. And they used slightly less old footage of pre-tour rehersal and a clip by Adam and then said that they were taking a break in their tour…yeah, and using a Time Machine to do so. I know! The photobooth was actually the TARDIS and Adam is a Timelord! Yes, it all makes sense now.

Funny thing about this clip, the photobooth stuff is sponsored by Crest whitestrips and Adam does have some marvelous teeth, btw (as well he should, given his mother and brace time put in) but none of the pictures taken and featured, show their teeth. Ha! corporate sponsorship, take that!

Oh and only Adam is shown really speaking as part of this clip.

If you’re looking for puppies and rainbows or preaching to the choir, there’s a vast array of fan groups out there that will meet your needs quite nicely.

Or get KARA DIOGUARDI to write a song for you.

Truthiness
The photobooth was actually the TARDIS and Adam is a Timelord! Yes, it all makes sense now.

LMAO!! You’re right! Adam as a Timelord IS the thing that makes most sense today! Knew another reincarnation was due.

Regarding my comment about thinking that Adam may be working with Rob Cavalli in California today based on the Meatloaf interview. I agree that that interview must be from mid-July 2009 and I was wrong. We know Meatloaf met Adam on 7/15/09 the day of the 2012 recording session:

7/15/09 YouTube video posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGzh_M-UvgQ

7/15/09 Adam recorded 2012 song EOnline posted 7/17/09 “It’s been double duty, and it’s been rough. I recorded all day yesterday [Wednesday] in L.A. But that’s a secret. It’s not for my record, possibly for a soundtrack.”

Another report of the 2012 song being recorded on 7/15/09 comes from John Miceli, the drummer in Meatloaf’s band.

So if that was recorded before Meatloaf met Adam tha first time as it appears to be, it means that it was recorded on or before 7/15/09.

ETA: But this interview and the podcast was just released today. Unlike some of the old recycled news that we get.

leome:

Have you listened to Neetobreathe’s new album? I think that’s probably the best out of those opening acts.

I have not. RL very rudely kept me away from youtube when they were opening, woe. And then I kind of forgot about them — oops.

Keeping up with a guy who insists on doing 2-5 shows a week is hard work.

I will have to check them out — thank you!

I could see S8 possibly getting four albums into the Top 10 but even that will be tough.

4 albums shouldn’t be that tough. Kradam should be a shoo-in for Top 10 debuts, Allison almost certainly so as well. And Danny– he has a lot of fans, and March isn’t terribly competitive.

‘Night guys. Tomorrow’s another day.

And Danny’“ he has a lot of fans, and March isn’t terribly competitive.

And I believe being he went the country route he will have a great chance of going in the top 10. Kellie Pickler did with both her albums reaching #9.

If you’re looking for puppies and rainbows or preaching to the choir, there’s a vast array of fan groups out there that will meet your needs quite nicely.

Or get KARA DIOGUARDI to write a song for you.

But who’s meatloaf? Is he in rock? Dance?

*Cringing* As best as my ancient, feeble mind can remember, Meatloaf’s “Bat Out of Hell” was THE album to own back in my college days, right along with Queen’s “Jazz.” No kegger was complete without a drunken rendition of “Paradise By the Dashboard Light.” That was back in the day when concept albums ruled and hit singles were scorned upon. I mean, we didn’t buy Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” because “Mother” or “Comfortably Numb” were on the top 40 countdown. Sadly, Adam and Kris do not have the luxory of coming out with an album that doesn’t have at least two top 40 hits. It’s all so different now.

I love that Meatloaf describes himself as an Adam groupie. I agree with NewFan about how Meatloaf and Brian May’s glowing endorsement of Adam helps validate my own mad love for him and his amazing voice. I am so excited for his album. I think he can sing anything well, so I trust that he will deliver something that will bring joy to my ears and my heart. Sounds sappy, but that’s how I feel.

Thanks MJ for continuing to report the news about our favorite Idols and for creating a place that should be safe for freedom of expression without threat of attack.

4 albums shouldn’t be that tough. Kradam should be a shoo-in for Top 10 debuts, Allison almost certainly so as well. And Danny’“ he has a lot of fans, and March isn’t terribly competitive.

I do not believe this is a sure bet. All 4 cracking the Top 10 would be a really feat! It only has happened once so far, AI5. Note: The final verdict is still technically out for AI7 but doubtful.

AI5 First post Idol Album Chart Position Billboard 100 Albums:
Taylor Hicks #2
Katharine McPhee #2
Elliot Yamin #3
Chris Daughtry #1

I think Kris and Adam will release top 10 albums. I am a little less confident in Allison but pretty sure she will. I doubt that Danny’s album will hit the Top 10 on the main chart. I think his recording career will be more like Kelly Pickler but with slightly less total sales — strong and steady on the Country chart.

But Kellie did debut Top 10 on the Billboard 200! Barely so, but she did. At #9. So Danny who finished 3 places higher than her and was a frontrunner should be able to pull it off too, I think, even if he is releasing rather late.

But who’s meatloaf? Is he in rock? Dance?

Well if you ever saw the “Rocky Horror Picture Show” he was Eddie. He then proceeded to come out with “Bat out of Hell” which is the third biggest selling album of all time (worldwide) behind Michael Jackson’s “Thriller” and AC/DC’s “Back in Black”. It was a Rock opera-ish type of Album. He also Came out with Bat out of Hell 2 Which spawned the song “I’d do anything for Love (but I Won’t do that)” A number one Smash in 28 countries. He has a very good voice IMHO.

That was back in the day when concept albums ruled and hit singles were scorned upon. I mean, we didn’t buy Pink Floyd’s ‘The Wall’  because ‘Mother’  or ‘Comfortably Numb’  were on the top 40 countdown.Sadly, Adam and Kris do not have the luxory of coming out with an album that doesn’t have at least two top 40 hits. It’s all so different now.

I wonder how different these Idol albums would be if that were the case now. Maybe that is where things are headed again? Right now people seem to only buy albums if they are super invested in the artist. Makes you wonder.

But who’s meatloaf? Is he in rock? Dance?”

Definitely rock. More like rock theater. His “Paradise by the Dashboard Lights” was like a story on stage. He was also in “Rocky Horror Picture Show” and apparently considers himself more of an actor than a singer.

I think his recording career will be more like Kelly Pickler but with slightly less total sales ‘” strong and steady on the Country chart.

Kellie did hit the top 10 main chart at number 9. Actually both her albums did. Both her Albums went to #1 on Country Album Charts. Sales for her first album was 800,000 + and her second is over 300,000 Not bad Actually her second album is selling better the Jordin Sparks second album. Also Upon further investigation Buckey Covington reached number 4 in top 200 albums chart.

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So if that was recorded before Meatloaf met Adam tha first time as it appears to be, it means that it was recorded on or before 7/15/09.

Yes Q3, a video of Adam and Meatloaf appeared about that time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGzh_M-UvgQ

Yep, sorry NewFan ,it looks like Hollywood week hair, because it IS Hollywood week hair. And yet they were ‘taking a break from their tour,’ i.e. happening now. Sure, if by ‘taking a break,’ one meant going back in time and across the country. Time, space, blah blah blah. TV editing is much more powerful than either one. Screw a Unified Theory (I’m in favour of String Theory myself, btw), why when you have the media?

Just like that months old Meatloaf interview being slapped with a date of today on it. Well maybe it was released today for the first time, but it happened months ago. But please, why should reality and the passage of time, get in the way of the media?

Need. More. Kettlecorn. Send more ambulances.

A tweet from Scott’s mom:

idolmomhope evry1 had a good labor day went to a short 19 ent party w/@idolscott earlier
less than a minute ago from mobile web

19 ent party? They actually had a party today?

Regarding Meatloaf: if you don’t know his music, it is worth a listen. IMHO No one sells that many records without doing something worthwhile. And, Meatloaf and Jim Steinman really did create some great music — and redefined operatic rock,

But Kellie did debut Top 10 on the Billboard 200! Barely so, but she did. At #9. So Danny who finished 3 places higher than her and was a frontrunner should be able to pull it off too, I think, even if he is releasing rather late.

I believe that nothing in the music business is ever certain — and that’s true now more than ever.

I actually hope you are right. We’ll all see soon enough. Danny’s first single should be out late this year or very early next year since they are planning on a March album release. And it probably will only take about 25,000 units to hit #10 in March 2010,

Kelly Pickler sold 79,000 units on her debut week (#9 on BB chart/#1 Cuontry) but that was in January 2007 before the music business essentially collasped.

but that was in January 2007 before the music business essentially collasped.

Yeah very true….but ADAM will revitalize it. (said with Tin Hat on and fingers crossed and lucky rabbits foot in hand)

Q3, And also, I assume, Kellie was easier to market in country. She’s a pretty blonde NC girl who seriously played up the country angle on AI. She would appeal to the country audience, in general.

Danny will be a bit trickier. He is a better singer and he finished higher (has more AI fans), but he is less traditionally country. They will have to market him to a certain segment of the country audience….the modernists, as opposed to the traditionalists (so to speak).

Like you said, we’ll see soon enough. I, of course, am hoping for the best and tend to think if they can get him some good Rascall Flatts type songs, he’ll sing the crap out of them, and will at least sell moderately well. The trick is finding the right songs…that’s a tough one.

The snakes and ladders thing was supposed to make you laugh. Maybe next time. Or not.

Kris interview with Minneapolis radio station. Before the interview starts, the DJ talks about how he interviewed Michael, Megan, Anoop and Scott as well, and then basically makes rude comments about all of them. He did say Kris was a nice guy though (after commenting about how Kris supposedly was disappointing in the concert)

Anyway, you’ve been warned! Here’s the link…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwfjKt1h6S8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flj%2Dtoys%2Ecom%2F%3Fjournalid%3D20128880%26moduleid%3D2163%26preview%3D%26auth%5Ftoken%3Dsessionless%3A1252389600%3Aembedcontent%3A20128880%25262163%2526%3A&feature=player_embedded

girlygirly.. you’re right.. that dj is rude!

but here’s a little something.. kind of cute…
Adam said my name!

Not even Adam’s primo voice could save the crap that is No Boundaries. I’m sure hardcore Adam fans will disagree.

Oh, no disagreement here–I may be an enthusiastic fan, but I still have ears. Adams’ and Kris’s studio versions of that song made it as listenable as possible, but yes, truly terrible music really can’t be overcome even by the best voice. Mediocre music, possibly, but not the true dreckiest level of dreck. So while I’m not expecting genius, I really do hope that they have some songs on their albums that are good, at least, and possibly even very good. Which still doesn’t guarantee success, at all, but is a good place to start.

Sigh. I love Adam’s voice, I love Allison’s, and I either really like or love Kris’s, it varies from song to song. And they’re all just interesting to me as artists, for their musical instincts and the passion they inject into their music. I just want them to do well enough to be able to make second albums, and third albums, and more–I really want to see how their artistic vision evolves over the years and over multiple albums.

Not even Adam’s primo voice could save the crap that is No Boundaries. I’m sure hardcore Adam fans will disagree.

yes and no to this one. I hate the song– still love Adam’s voice.. so I will listen to it and even enjoy it, because it pleases me that Adam can turn drek into something palatable (for me). Still, it’s not at the top of my playlist.

Speaking of which– I now have mindchnger’s vids in their own playlist on my iPod. If you watch one entire set that’s a whole 20 minutes chunk of treadmill time!

ETA– adamland– had to go watch Paradise by the dashboard light after you mentioned it… forgot how great is is. thanks for reminding me.

Yes, the album drop time was truly ugly. MJ had to shut down the site and change it so we had to log in (lots of fake accounts and drive by attacks). All the fans groups tried to eat each other. I don’t know if the passive-aggressive fans were worse or the outright aggressive ones.

I think this year might be a little rough’ ¦eep!

I always think passive aggressiveness is worse lol
These doomsday predictions for November are making me scared’ ¦ and a bit excited.

Ohh dear.. Me too! Well at lease now I know what’s going to be and not excited about that ugly part.

I’m still excited about Adam’s single and the album. Adam’s will promote his album. It means I will see bunch of his interview. woo hooo..

Yes, the album drop time was truly ugly. MJ had to shut down the site and change it so we had to log in (lots of fake accounts and drive by attacks). All the fans groups tried to eat each other. I don’t know if the passive-aggressive fans were worse or the outright aggressive ones.

I think this year might be a little rough’ ¦eep!

Oh dear, that doesn’t sound fun. Why is it like that? I mean, most people here are adults, right? I know the anonymity of the internet allows people to be ruder than they would be in real life but still, being an adult should count for something. And, assuming that neither does terribly (which I suppose can’t be assumed, but which I hope won’t happen), what’s the point?

Kris interview with Minneapolis radio station. Before the interview starts, the DJ talks about how he interviewed Michael, Megan, Anoop and Scott as well, and then basically makes rude comments about all of them. He did say Kris was a nice guy though (after commenting about how Kris supposedly was disappointing in the concert)

Anyway, you’ve been warned! Here’s the link’ ¦

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwfjKt1h6S8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flj%2Dtoys%2Ecom%2F%3Fjournalid%3D20128880%26moduleid%3D2163%26preview%3D%26auth%5Ftoken%3Dsessionless%3A1252389600%3Aembedcontent%3A20128880%25262163%2526%3A&feature=player_embedded

The interview was fine, but yeah the DJ was a bit of a smart ass.

Like you said, we’ll see soon enough. I, of course, am hoping for the best and tend to think if they can get him some good Rascall Flatts type songs, he’ll sing the crap out of them, and will at least sell moderately well. The trick is finding the right songs’ ¦that’s a tough one.

Chris Sligh really likes Danny, too, if I recall correctly, so I’m hoping maybe he has the perfect song for him, along the lines of “Here Comes Goodbye,” a recent Rascal Flatts hit. I’m not a Danny fan, per se, but I think he stands a chance in that “modern” country genre described.

Re Meat Loaf, the guy really is a peach. It’s hard not to love him, even if you aren’t a fan of his music. (Not that anybody was feeling the Meat Loaf love when poor Nate Marshall performed ‘I Would Do Anything For Love’  in the semis!) But I think it’s great that Mr. Loaf loves Adam and is singing his praises. He’s been kind to a lot of Idols, including David Cook, whom he “penned” a little tune for.

And, yes, most of the top performers on the show have had their fans over the years. Fuel famously offered Chris Daughtry their lead singer position, which he wisely passed on. Still, I’m sure he was terribly flattered. And Grace Slick spoke glowingly of Cook after his win:

Today, Slick has transitioned gracefully from ’60s rock icon to artist. Her “Wonderland” series of fantasy paintings are, in some ways, an homage to her days as the queen of psychedelia. Her musical tastes, though classic, are more masculine — Sting, Peter Gabriel, “American Idol” winner David Cook and the Gypsy Kings.

I’m sure there were famous fans of many other Idols as well.

Adam OK Magazine interview

http://www.okmagazine.com/2009/09/red-carpet-confidential-adam-lamberts-school-days/

ETA: if anyone ever wants to torcher Adam – lock him in a room with a 24 hour sports channel, I think he’d have a heart attack.

ETAA: MJ added this to the new headlines thread

And And Grace Slick spoke glowingly of Cook after his win:

Cook or Adam or somebody needs to cover White Rabbit. That is the trippiest song ever!

Cook or Adam or somebody needs to cover White Rabbit. That is the trippiest song ever!

Yeah, that would be awesome. How about a duet?

Not even Adam’s primo voice could save the crap that is No Boundaries. I’m sure hardcore Adam fans will disagree.

Hardcore Adam fan here. I thought that Kris and Adam did what they could with the song. Unfortunately the song was horrible. I don’t think anyone could have saved it.

Love the Pittsburgh Post Gazette Meatloaf interview and his comments on Adam…
There seems to be a lot of musicians and singers adding their names to the fan wagon and that can only equate to support and opportunity which further equates to longevity and success in the industry.
No one has ever done well, over the long haul, without that kind of support.
I have such hopes for Adam and I am glad to see others do as well.

As bad as the fanwarring has been the last couple of years I agree that nothing worse than season 5. That was’ ¦ugly. November/December 2006 was a time I never want to revive.

Finally catching up on the blog after being out most of the weekend, but I see things got a little crazy yesterday That said, I’m sad to think of this happening in November I’ve had so much fun all summer following things on tour – and, though I know some are ready for the tour to just end and move on to the next thing, I for one will really miss this “calm before the storm” because it serves as the only place where the idols aren’t really competing (as they were on the show, or as they will be later on for “album sales”).

Oh, well – I guess there’s no getting around it, and in general, I just hope the best for Adam, Allison and Kris when the albums drop. I will be very very very happy if they all chart, all sell well, and are all considered successes because they all have the talent to make it imo.

And re the S5 comparisons – I just wanted to say that, even though Taylor was hugely popular in AI-bubble land (and as a frequentor to the official AI site that year, I know he was), he was not as well received OUTSIDE of AI, which can be a bigger gauge of success in the real world, imo. Throughout the season, he was more often the butt of jokes, etc. and that spoke more to his future success than what the fans felt toward him. That’s why I see the Adam comparisons as a moot point. Adam is more contemporary, and has been incredibly well received by the outside media (more so than any idol I can readily remember right now). Just my take on it, of course.

Why don’t you ask ten regular folks you know to name one contestant from S8? You may be surprised at their non answers.

Of course we’re all a little insulated in our little AI-world here, but I’ve noticed, of all the contestants from S8, Adam is definitely the most identifiable from non-fans (lots of random encounters I’ve had with people, friends, co-workers, etc. who are more likely to know his name than anyone else this season). That’s not to say EVERYONE knows of him (or doesn’t know of anyone else), but that’s just the trend I’ve noticed in the “real world” fwiw

When the albums do drop … I hope that everyone remembers that there’s a recession going on … and it won’t be useful to compare these sales to those of previous years.

I have been MIA for the past couple of days. I guess I missed a lot of snarkiness.

Anyway:

Kris interview with Minneapolis radio station. Before the interview starts, the DJ talks about how he interviewed Michael, Megan, Anoop and Scott as well, and then basically makes rude comments about all of them. He did say Kris was a nice guy though (after commenting about how Kris supposedly was disappointing in the concert)

God, that djay was an a**hole. Does he need to keep calling him Michael “the oil-rig guy”? (He actually *liked* Michael.) The blind gentleman? Anoop had the personality of a ballpoint pen?! AND if he knew anything, which apparently he did NOT, he dissed Adam b/c he didn’t meet with him. Um, b/c he only does press EVERY OTHER DAY. Jerk. The whole interview pissed me off. I bet the Idols cannot *wait* to stop doing these interviews, which are nothing if not redundant (did you Google yourself?) and can just get back to the music.

I don’t know how the Idols feel, but I am looking forward to the end of the Tour so that, hopefully, they can stop dealing with stupid press people and we can starting about *music* and stop comparing them all to each other.

But who’s meatloaf? Is he in rock? Dance?

*Cringing* As best as my ancient, feeble mind can remember, Meatloaf’s ‘Bat Out of Hell’  was THE album to own back in my college days, right along with Queen’s ‘Jazz.’ 

Bat Out of Hell was on the charts for NINE years.
That kind of success is hard to come by.

RE: Meatloaf and his valid and complementary statement about Adam and posters not knowing who he is:

I’d like to add a paragraph from Wikipedia on the Meatloaf Album Bat out of Hell: (released 10/21/77
“…Bat out of Hell still sells about 200,000 copies per year and has sold an estimated 40 million copies worldwide, 14 million in the United States alone…” and listed #3 in the best selling albums of all time.

Is this the end of the thread? It’s hard to tell. On another board there is a post about Adam being on Oprah!!!!

sorry sorry, false alarm. nothing to see here

I’m happy for Matt if he had a great homecoming concert. He really is the best of the first act by far.