Idol Headlines for 09/05/09

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Adam-that writer really don’t know much about him..Loved “Sarlight” from youtube ….

DAnte-(cold turkey-mistake) How was the AI concert?

I like the picture they used for Allison’s interview. I really liked this installment of her interview.

During Michael Jackson week you sang one of his lesser-known songs, ‘Give in to Me.’ 

That was one of the songs I had never heard in my life. But Slash is on it and I thought that was pretty cool. I was going to do ‘Beat It’  and I gave it to Anoop. He hated me after I gave it to him.

LOL, she’s too funny. Not sure how her take on Beat It would have come across.

EXCLUSIVE: American Idol’s Jim Verraros and Boyfriend to Marry Sunday

I don’t know this guy, but congratulations. I wish him and his husband to be all the best.

LOL, she’s too funny. Not sure how her take on Beat It would have come across.

I am seriously curious about that as well. Maybe she could’ve made a hard rock version of the song and make it work, but I’m glad she went with Give in to me. That was an amazing performance and the song rocks.

‘Anytime you need me to give you a song, Anoop, just call me up and I’d be glad to help.’  He just says, ‘Shut up.’ 

This is hilarious, poor Anoop.
Funny how she said she had been singing Blame it on your heart for so long when Simon tried to make it seem like she was having trouble remembering the lyrics. Simon really did the best he could to always put her down somehow, didn’t he? Heh, to her calling 90′s music “wack”. It’s true though, the list of songs for 1992 wasn’t as inspiring as one would think. However, that worked out great for her because I can’t make you love me was one of her best performances.

I like the picture they used for Allison’s interview. I really liked this installment of her interview.

Very nice picture, never seen it before.

Last nights bubble tweet with Matt, I just got what Anoop said. Am I wrong to laugh?

http://www.bubbletweet.com/showBT.php?id=ff08x

ETA: From the Adam article
“”…”I know what they’re wanting, and I think it’s going to be something that you could hear in between a Fall Out Boy song and a Kylie Minogue song. You’d mash that together and put some mascara on it.” ”
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Is that supposed to be a good thing?

AI uses a stable of the same writers for all their artists. Since this guy worked w/Cook he’s on their team. They probably send a memo out to the team telling them what they’re looking for.

I’m not sure something between FOB and Kylie Minogue sounds too great.

Yes, it would be interesting to hear Allison’s take on “Beat It.” Every time I hear that mentioned I think of Slezak’s “Idolatry” reaction: Classic. “Oh no.”

That Tweet Beat is already getting old. Jim is cute, but a little too goofy this week and the voices? Fire them. What was that Ryan voice? Is he suffering from H1N1 or something?

Jim should just read the tweets.

If you are near the front and want to toss a gift on stage to your rock star, be original. The first item thrown to Cook was a box of Peanut Butter Captain Crunch-delicious, nutritious, and shows that you care about their daily food intake.

Another item was rubber chickens. No relevance whatsoever to the show, but what the hell. If you are in the audience with a 55-year-old cougar, more than likely they will try to fling their bra on stage and miss. If you are to fling your undergarment on stage, don’t miss, and make sure it is not plain white and size triple Z.

I’m not 55, but I hope her mother slaps her.

(By the way, there should be no “s” at the end of “chicken,” and the relevance is that the band’s unofficial mascot is a rubber chicken. Maybe the concert-goer thought the chicken looked a little lonely.)

Cassidy Haley responded to Adam’s tweet overload

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Omg there’s an @adamlambert storm in my Twitter feed! work it out boy..lol..kiss to you about 11 hours ago from Tweetie in reply to adamlambert

thats cute, Kelly thinking about her Idol win during one of her songs.

Regarding the Kevin Griffen article.
Mr. Griffin was no friend of Mr. Lambert during the competition and I don’t think that he’s had a change of heart.

Griffin said that there will probably also be some disco thrown in.

How does he know that? It’s one thing to quietly sneak something disco onto a b side but it’s probably not that good an idea to go around broadcasting it. Unless disco has suddenly become popular again and I just missed the memo. If it’s making a resurgence, me thinks it’s probably going by a different name. No, I think Kevin Griffin is taking the opportunity to get himself into the press and, maybe take a shot at Adam as well.

But I’ve been wrong before. Perhaps he’s an angel in disguise.

I posted this late last night in yesterday’s headlines thread regarding Kevin Griffin’s article on MTV.com and his description of Adam’s sound, but it’s definitely relevant to this headlines thread.
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Okay, just found a previous interview with Kevin Griffin that makes me discount every single thing he said in this article. Why would he even want to write a song for Adam when he had this to say previously:
KG = Kevin Griffin
BE = Bullzeye.com

KG: It’s not easy. And watch ‘American Idol.’ 

BE: You know what, dude, I was going to ask you that and I forgot. Who do you like?

KG: I like Kris.

BE: So do I!

KG: I think Kris is cool and he’s the one viable guy. Adam needs to go ahead and go do theater.

BE: Or some metal tribute band or something.

KG: Some metal tribute, kind of cross-dressing, you know, those Vegas things with like Cher. He could do the Cher look-alike thing. That’s his future. And I think America is going to sour on him in the next couple of weeks. Kris is good. I’ve come around to him.

This interview was on May 12th.

So if he is writing for Adam he’s a hypocrite and a bottom-feeder for trying to glom off of him and if he’s not then he’s a liar.

Source: http://www.bullz-eye.com/music/interviews/2009/kevin_griffin.htm

Kevin Griffin is a song writer. If 19R/RCA want to pay him to write a song for Adam, then I don’t see that as bottom feeding. And more importantly, if Adam Lambert found his comments to be so egregious or offensive, I’m sure he would not want to work with him, no?

So if he is writing for Adam he’s a hypocrite and a bottom-feeder for trying to glom off of him and if he’s not then he’s a liar.

Source: http://www.bullz-eye.com/music/interviews/2009/kevin_griffin.htm

What an ass! I hope none of his songs end up on Adam’s album. Go write his mash up bull for Kris if he likes him so much.

ETA: I have never heard Adam mention this guys name when he talks about the people he’s working with, so if he is working with him it may not be because he chooses to.

SashaB
September 5, 2009 at 11:18 am
Kevin Griffin is a song writer. If 19R/RCA want to pay him to write a song for Adam, then I don’t see that as bottom feeding. And more importantly, if Adam Lambert found his comments to be so egregious or offensive, I’m sure he would not want to work with him, no?

For one, it doesn’t say he’s written WITH Adam or Kris, just that he hopes that songs he wrote will be chosen by them.

Second, I prefer a smidgen of integrity in people. Why would Kevin Griffin want to work with (as described by him) a cross-dressing Cher impersonator who America will sour on?? He had nothing but praise for Kris, which is great, but in this article and accompanying audio he can’t say a word about Kris’s album and even laughs about it? He probably is a great songwriter, I only know one song by Better than Ezra. But you would think he would focus his artistic endeavors on someone he at least has a little bit of respect for.

Maybe he’s not a bottom-feeder in your eyes, but he’s definitely someone without any integrity in mine. I don’t trust his opinions on what Adam’s album is going to be any farther than I can throw them. I know he worked with David Cook in the past and did great, more power to him.

It sounds like to me that Kevin Griffith is TRYING to write a song for Adam to get on his album. He sure did a 180 from a few months ago. Before he was all about Kris and now he’s dying to get on the Adam project?

As a working songwriter in the biz, he’s probably heard where all the buzz is coming from – and it’s Adam, not Kris. And I think it IS hypocritical. I checked out some of his stuff and he seems more Kris’s style than Adam. But obviously doesn’t think getting a track on Kris’ album is where the money is at.

Integrity in the record business and corporate America? Hm, okay, then. Not sure why it has to be so personal. He might have formed an opinion of Adam, the Idol TV contestant that is very different from Adam, the recording artist. Again, *IF* Griffin wrote with Adam and that song ends up on Adam’s record, and Adam is okay and likes the song, then it’s a business relationship. That’s my point. It’s business.

Yeah, my take was that KG submitted some songs. No one has tweeted a writing session and of course, the final cuts haven’t been made. Maybe 19 contracted him, but after those comments, I hope Adam’s peeps stamp “Reject” on his submissions and send them back.

Keep your mouth shut, fool, you don’t know who you might be groveling to in the future.

I’m not familiar with a ton of Griffin’s work but I LOVE the song of his that made DC’s album and its IMO the most underrated one on there. Sadly now I hope whatever he wrote for/with Kris doesn’t make the cut. Guy sounds like an ass.

There are people who co-star in movies together and do love scenes who don’t even like each other. So, business is business.

I twitter is the devil because I feel like using it for no good – those KG comments ticked me off.

Yep. It sounds to me like Kevin Griffin has submitted songs for approval. He doesn’t say anything about song writing sessions with either Kris or Adam.

I would love to see him turned down by both parties. It couldn’t happen to a more deserving ****. self censored

Second, I prefer a smidgen of integrity in people. Why would Kevin Griffin want to work with (as described by him) a cross-dressing Cher impersonator who America will sour on??

LOL. Maybe he loves cross-dressing Cher impersonators that America is sour on?

I wonder what it would be like if we had better records from years gone by. Perhaps Leonardo da Vinci thought that old Mona was a pain in the a$$. Michelangelo probably secretly cursed under his breath about a few of the cardinals below him in the Sistine Chapel (“What an Idiot! I’m not going to paint God with red hat on him no matter what that dude says”). And Velà ¡zquez may have thought the Las Meninas were a wee bit spoiled (and their little dog too). More than a few portrait painters probably thought their clients were UG-LY.

But hey, a paycheque is a paycheque and we ended up with some great art.

If the dude writes a song with an awesome hook, melody and lyrics, who cares what he privately thinks about the guy who sings it? Good songs are hard to come by. The guy writes songs. Adam/Kris sing songs (and sometimes write them). Better to have a hit and a long career than having everybody you work with flove you.

Granted, a FOB/Kylie mash-up seems to have a low likely-hood of being good, so that’s what I would be objecting to.

I happened upon this interview with Nick Mitchell aka Norman Gentle last night. Looks like he moved out to LA to try to “make it.” At any rate he has nice things to say about Danny. I thought maybe my two/three fellow Danny fans on here might want to see it….

Danny Gokey is best friends with Jamar Rodgers, who was my roommate last season, so he was always in our room during Hollywood week. Danny is the best, I wish I could sing like him; I love his voice!

He is the nicest guy also — he has gospel runs like Stevie Wonder! And he truly is an inspiration to keep on following your dreams no matter what happens in life — the guy is amazing!

http://www.newstimes.com/ci_13263066

So, business is business.

I guess….but praising Kris in May and now bailing on him? Trashing Adam and now hoping he makes it onto his album? Just doesn’t seem like the brightest strategy. I can’t imagine why either Kris or Adam would want to work with him at this point…right next to Kevin Griffin’s name.

Oh BTW, I know this is completely childish and petty but I miss the old smileys A good thumbs-down emoticon would have worked very nicely here, I think.

Look, if Kevin Griffiths can write a killer song that suits Adam perfectly (Fall Out Boy meets Kylie Minogue with mascara on it), then by all mean, go nuts! But I highly doubt he can, he style is just not Adam’s style.

It sounds like he’s desperate to get their attention though. From what I gather, it sounds like he called up Adam’s A&R people and asked them what they’re looking for. So thanks for sharing that info, I guess.

I still think he’s just trying to jump on the higher profile project. Like he said, they’re going for INTERNATIONAL sales. And as a song writer, getting your song on an album that sells well internationally is going to bring you more royalties than one that will probably just do OK in the US.

Trina – which song did he write for David?

KG co-wrote Avalanche with David Cook

Jive might not have wanted KG to work with Kris. Who knows? Archie didn’t have as much say in his debut album. IIRC, he tried unsuccessfully to get some other songs on it.

There are people who co-star in movies together and do love scenes who don’t even like each other. So, business is business.

True, of course, but you tend to get much farther in business when you have the respect and support of those you’re working with.

As they say, “Don’t burn bridges behind you.” This could be an example of burning bridges in front of you. Or maybe Adam will sing the hell out of one of KG’s songs and the guy wins an assload of Grammys. Who knows.

Danny Gokey is best friends with Jamar Rodgers, who was my roommate last season, so he was always in our room during Hollywood week. Danny is the best, I wish I could sing like him; I love his voice!

He is the nicest guy also ‘” he has gospel runs like Stevie Wonder! And he truly is an inspiration to keep on following your dreams no matter what happens in life ‘” the guy is amazing!

http://www.newstimes.com/ci_13263066

That was a nice article. Norman/Nick was pretty funny – I liked him on the finale.

KG co-wrote Avalanche with David Cook

Oh, I love that song.

Yes, it would be interesting to hear Allison’s take on ‘Beat It.’  Every time I hear that mentioned I think of Slezak’s ‘Idolatry’  reaction: Classic. ‘Oh no.’ 

Followed by Anoop’s “I wish people would just forget about that”. Will anyone ever attempt to do Beat it on the show?

Holy crap,that Kevin Griiffin guy is an a-hole. Could care less if he likes Kris over Adam, but to say what he said was just plain wrong and now he is trying to cover his tracks so Adam will chose one of his songs? Scum, pure and simple. Checked his bio and don’t even know of one song that he wrote that went anywhere. Loser.

The disco talk is ridiculous. FOB and Kylie my ass. If it is on the “disco” side of things, I would imagine it would be more of a new wave thing like Depeche Mode. Can’t even believe how much of that article pissed me off.

And the Chicago Trib article couldn’t even get Danny’s name right- they called him Danny Cokey.

He is the nicest guy also ‘” he has gospel runs like Stevie Wonder! And he truly is an inspiration to keep on following your dreams no matter what happens in life ‘” the guy is amazing!

Awww, Danny has slowly worked his way back into my heart this summer.

If you are in the audience with a 55-year-old cougar, more than likely they will try to fling their bra on stage and miss. If you are to fling your undergarment on stage, don’t miss, and make sure it is not plain white and size triple Z.

Okay, you guys already answered, but I just love the photos this person paired with the song. Most are very flattering:

Cook’s Avalanche:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju7gZjLwbwg

I happened upon this interview with Nick Mitchell aka Norman Gentle last night. Looks like he moved out to LA to try to ‘make it.’  At any rate he has nice things to say about Danny. I thought maybe my two/three fellow Danny fans on here might want to see it’ ¦.

Danny Gokey is best friends with Jamar Rodgers, who was my roommate last season, so he was always in our room during Hollywood week. Danny is the best, I wish I could sing like him; I love his voice!

He is the nicest guy also ‘” he has gospel runs like Stevie Wonder! And he truly is an inspiration to keep on following your dreams no matter what happens in life ‘” the guy is amazing!

One of your fellow Danny fans here. Thanks for posting this article aek, I am glad that Norman had nice things to say about Danny.

I’m actually relieved to find out that Griffin doesn’t like Adam because the way he was describing Adam’s sound was scaring me.

I hope his song doesn’t get selected because his David Cook song sounds like pure filler, and I can’t imagine him producing anything better for someone that he dislikes.

Wow, until I read that Nick Mitchell piece, I don’t think I ever realized Hollywood Week is SIX WEEKS LONG? Yikes. I thought two, maybe three, but never imagined it was six weeks. Oh the stories they could probably tell there …

KG co-wrote Avalanche with David Cook

Oh, I love that song.

Damn it, me too! Well if he gets lucky and his song ends up on Adam’s album it had better be spectacular.

Granted, a FOB/Kylie mash-up seems to have a low likely-hood of being good, so that’s what I would be objecting to.

Maybe it’s not surprising that this guy would come up with that kind of description of someone he’s just submitting songs to, of something odd and sucky, given his previous comments about Adam and his talent. That’s why those comments might be relevant. Because he didn’t like Adam’s style and singing, like at all, and so now when writing for it, completely whiffs at creating for it. I mean you pretty much hate what someone does and now you’re writing for the style you hated? How is that going to work? But I agree, it’s just business and he if he somehow managed to create a good song, I would want Adam to pick it and sing it. But that is highly doubtful. And yeah, given this guy’s previous comments? I won’t be upset about it, nor do I think KG will in having his work not being picked by someone who sucks so much.

Weird about his turn around on Kris though, given how rah rah rah he was before. But I would still expect that he could create a song more suited to Kris’s style, a style he also previously respected, so he has a better chance of creating a good song for him. And if he created something good for David Cook, probably an even better chance that he could create a good song for Kris in his wheelhouse.

And if he created something good for David Cook, probably an even better chance that he could create a good song for Kris in his wheelhouse.

Well, David has co-writing credit, so I’m assuming this wasn’t just Griffin submitting a song.

Yeah, I”ll be curious to see how much co-writing or writing credits Kris and Adam will have on their respective albums.

So any news as to when singles for Allison or Kris are going to be released?? I’m a bit surprised that Jive hasn’t released anything given that both Archie and Jordin already had their singles out by August in 2008 and 2007, respectively.

Susan M.
September 5, 2009 at 12:00 pm

Wow, until I read that Nick Mitchell piece, I don’t think I ever realized Hollywood Week is SIX WEEKS LONG? Yikes. I thought two, maybe three, but never imagined it was six weeks. Oh the stories they could probably tell there ‘ ¦

Same! What the hell do they DO for six weeks?

Hollywood week is NOT 6 weeks long. But the process of whittling down people auditioning in each city to the people they select to eventually go to Hollywood week could take that long.

And it’s NOT doing something every day for 6 weeks. They spread it out. The cattle call, then the producer auditions, then the auditions before the judges themselves (which are spread across 2 days then).

Same! What the hell do they DO for six weeks?

I thought Hollywood week lasted…well…a week. Silly me.

Has this been posted yet?

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid21492743001?bclid=1675979644&bctid=36918255001

Interview with Matt, Danny, Kris

Cook’s Avalanche:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju7gZjLwbwg

I love that song – one of my favorites on the album.

jpfan
AI uses a stable of the same writers for all their artists. Since this guy worked w/Cook he’s on their team. They probably send a memo out to the team telling them what they’re looking for.

I agree completely with this. Just because the guy didn’t think Adam’s the second coming doesn’t mean he not opposed to making money. I think RCA might have had to throw a few names out there because what they want for Adam is not as easy as: “Pop/Rock go go go go!”

I do have to say that comment reminded me of Randy who was the only judge who went with the emo rock comparisons during the show. I always felt he was on to something, even if I thought the comparison was a bit lazy. But I’m not surprised…I think it’s the easiest, most commercial image to sell Adam with. Those Sebree photoshoot pictures only add to that, IMO.

Kristen
If the dude writes a song with an awesome hook, melody and lyrics, who cares what he privately thinks about the guy who sings it? Good songs are hard to come by.

Exactly. Ryan Tedder acted like a douche towards Kris during the season but he’s apparently (if we believe Daniel Allen) writing with Kris.

Ryan Tedder acted like a douche towards Kris during the season but he’s apparently (if we believe Daniel Allen) writing with Kris.

What did he say?

Wow, until I read that Nick Mitchell piece, I don’t think I ever realized Hollywood Week is SIX WEEKS LONG? Yikes… Oh the stories they could probably tell there ‘ ¦

Interesting, Susan. Maybe Nick Mitchell was talking about more than Hollywood Week. Or the interviewer was confused. Seems unlikely it’s that long. Besides the expense of housing that many people for 6 weeks, it’s also a long time to keep that many people on text/twitter/email/camera lock down. And plenty of time for all kinds of tabloid fodder to happen.

Not sure how they keep the silence. Guess the threat of getting the boot and no chance at a future recording career works. Though when that’s past, how big a star do Idol contestants have to become before the tabloids start paying for roommate tell-alls? Or at least some snap shot leaks? 6 weeks every year? It just seems impossible for 8 seasons of no leaks or even semi-scandals to have passed.

Kris and Adam weren’t roommates til the mansion. Who were their roommates for 6 Hollywood Weeks if there were that many?

Wasn’t Kris and Matt roomies at one time?

KG: Some metal tribute, kind of cross-dressing, you know, those Vegas things with like Cher. He could do the Cher look-alike thing. That’s his future. And I think America is going to sour on him in the next couple of weeks.

I don’t care how good this guy may be. There are many good songwriters beating down on Adam’s door. I don’t like nor trust this guy. Adam, remember the name Kevin Griffin. Then forget it forever.

That Tweet Beat is already getting old.

Jim should stick to his 60 seconds shtick.So that i can get him in small doses…anything longer than that is pitiful

saga
What did he say?

Tedder? I think it was around the time of Homecoming and he just found out that Adam wanted to sing a One Republic song but the show rejected it because “the other guy” was going to sing Apologize. It was a stupid and rude comment.

But IMO the songwriting business is pretty tough. I think any field where you rely on royalties and what not is. So I imagine that songwriters want to write for people who they think will sell a lot of records so they can get paid. And Idol debut albums usually do better than the average albums so I doubt many songwriters are going to turn away from that if the opportunity is there.

And somehow I don’t think Kris or Adam are paying attention to ever article and interview that may be about one of I imagine many songwriters that have submitted them songs. And I don’t see how it invalidates what seems to have been told to Griffin.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid21492743001?bclid=1675979644&bctid=36918255001

Interview with Matt, Danny, Kris

What? Before Kris was in the finals, he thought Danny should be the winner? How old was this interview? Kris was still stuttering and stammering.

I think Tedder and Kris are quite friendly, didn’t Kris twitter Ryan asking for a good pizza place in NY?

Kris and Adam weren’t roommates til the mansion. Who were their roommates for 6 Hollywood Weeks if there were that many?

I remember reading an interview where Adam or Kris mentioned that before the mansion they were roommates at the hotel the idols were staying at. No idea of how long that was. And yes, before Adam, Matt was Kris’s roommate.

Sad that I know all of this. Very sad.

And if he created something good for David Cook, probably an even better chance that he could create a good song for Kris in his wheelhouse.

Well, David has co-writing credit, so I’m assuming this wasn’t just Griffin submitting a song.

Which sounds like it’s a different situation than now where he seems to be just be submitting songs. But of course I assume that could change and if Kris or Adam liked a song he submitted, but wanted to work on it with him, to maybe change it a bit, that could lead to co-writing with KG. Oh and I’m willing to credit all the good stuff of Avalanche to David Cook if he helped co-write it, because I like David Cook and am petty enough not to like KG.

I agree with Kirsten and Sasha. The guy writes songs. Kris and Adam need good songs. If he can produce one, who cares about his personality? Lots of creative people are assholes. Even some of the best. Its all about the final product.

That Tweet Beat is already getting old.

Jim should stick to his 60 seconds shtick.So that i can get him in small doses’ ¦anything longer than that is pitiful

Sounds like jambajim is trying to take Adam down a few notches by using that adamfarted schtick as if it was true.

Ryan Tedder acted like a douche towards Kris during the season but he’s apparently (if we believe Daniel Allen) writing with Kris.

He referred to Kris as ‘the other guy’ which is nothing compared to

KG: Some metal tribute, kind of cross-dressing, you know, those Vegas things with like Cher. He could do the Cher look-alike thing. That’s his future. And I think America is going to sour on him in the next couple of weeks. Kris is good. I’ve come around to him.

saga
September 5, 2009 at 12:51 pm
I think Tedder and Kris are quite friendly, didn’t Kris twitter Ryan asking for a good pizza place in NY

No, that would be David Hodges (the guy who opened for Daughtry on the recent club tour and former founding member of Evanesence). David was one of Kris’ first co-writing partners, and he has also written with Allison and Adam.

No, that would be David Hodges (the guy who opened for Daughtry on the recent club tour and former founding member of Evanesence). David was one of Kris’ first co-writing partners, and he has also written with Allison and Adam.

All these people, so confusing. So David Hodges has written will all of them? OK, so who is the guy that Kelly is mad over for the Beyonce song? And there was someone that Kelly used to be together with? And has any of the Kradison written with Ryan Tedder? Or has he submitted songs?

Completely OT but I’m listening to David Cook’s Permanent. Beautiful song.

saga
And has any of the Kradison written with Ryan Tedder? Or has he submitted songs?

He’s written for (with?) Adam. And Daniel says that he’s working w/ Kris too. He also bascially wrote all of Blake’s songs for his debut. Guy gets around. I think he, like Kevin Griffin, knows where his paycheck is coming from.

If you are in the audience with a 55-year-old cougar, more than likely they will try to fling their bra on stage and miss. If you are to fling your undergarment on stage, don’t miss, and make sure it is not plain white and size triple Z.

Haha, I had to laugh at that comment. Oh, so funny and “tongue in cheek”. I was at that concert and saw the bra toss in question. I was almost close enough to touch it, not that I’d want to. And it didn’t originate from any older fan. She was correct in saying it was white, but it was definitely not a triple Z. I guess it was more on the line of a 34B.

ETA: Oh, I love Permanent too, and being it was mentioned up-thread, here is a link to a live performance at the HOB in Orlando. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXpzs7KZK3A

OK, so who is the guy that Kelly is mad over for the Beyonce song?

Ryan Tedder of the group One Republic.

And there was someone that Kelly used to be together with?

THAT was David Hodges

And has any of the Kradison written with Ryan Tedder? Or has he submitted songs?

No and No, as far as I know. But he did write Jordin’s “Battlefield”

Sounds like jambajim is trying to take Adam down a few notches by using that adamfarted schtick as if it was true.

I don’t think Jim was going after Adam. I think Jim was trying to be funny and using a Twitter trend that was very popular this week, and a very stupid and immature trend it was. But than I find bodily function humor to be about the level of 12 year old boys. I think Adam was generous to say maybe 13. But other people find that kind of thing funny, so that’s why Jim reported on it. Nothing beyond that, no attack. Just lameness of trend and therefore trying to play off that trend, which not surprisingly, was also kind of lame. But no animus in it that I could see.

This may have been posted during the days that I was without a computer, but it is the longest version of the “Flash Forward” promos that I have seen with Adam’s Mad World.

http://abc.go.com/shows/flash-forward/

After following this link, you have to click on “more videos” and select the video labeled “A worldwide phenomenom” I think the title fits.

And has any of the Kradison written with Ryan Tedder? Or has he submitted songs?

Adam wrote with Ryan Tedder, I think.

Ok, thanks. Hard to keep track of everyone…

David Hodges wrote with all of Kradison, but he and Kris seem to have formed a friendship. They follow each other on twitter and tweet each other sort of frequently.

As far as I can determine, with the help of the urban dictionary, a ‘purple nurfle’ would be a hickey.

So, Jim’s joke that Kris gave him a purple nurfle, and Adam farted is going easy on Adam, IMO. But, I find the whole thing hysterical, and I hope Jim keeps the twitter show going.

Interesting, Susan. Maybe Nick Mitchell was talking about more than Hollywood Week. Or the interviewer was confused. Seems unlikely it’s that long. Besides the expense of housing that many people for 6 weeks, it’s also a long time to keep that many people on text/twitter/email/camera lock down. And plenty of time for all kinds of tabloid fodder to happen.

That’s what I thought, FHS, I couldn’t think of any conceivable reason all of them would be there for six weeks. That would be a reality show in itself. And talk about an expense! And then they’re all saying they were sleep deprived. Uh, why, if you have six weeks to do a few numbers.

And I personally don’t buy that “creative and business people can be assholes” crap. Yes, of course there are assholes in business and creative industry. But more and more you cannot get away with that shit. When examples of your bad behavior are broadcast worldwide in a matter of seconds, you can make yourself a pariah REALLY FAST.

There are many, many talented people out there just looking for a break. That’s why we’re all so intrigued by this show and this year’s group of Idols in particular. It is proof of who’s waiting in the wings when one talented person suddenly thinks they’re the be all, end all. Or one NON-TALENTED person (looking at you, Spencer).

Another old Hollywood adage: Be nice to everyone on your way up, because they’re the people you’ll see on your way down. True.

Also, don’t abuse your waiter, he/she could be your boss next week.

http://abc.go.com/shows/flash-forward/

After following this link, you have to click on ‘more videos’  and select the video labeled ‘A worldwide phenomenom’  I think the title fits.

The last time Q3 mentioned that the promo didn’t have MW anymore, I went to the website and yes, It didn’t have Adam’s MW anymore. I didn’t go to see all the vids they have. Now I’m curious, looks like I have to see it on September 24.

http://abc.go.com/shows/flash-forward/

After following this link, you have to click on ‘more videos’  and select the video labeled ‘A worldwide phenomenom’  I think the title fits.

The last time Q3 mentioned that the promo didn’t have MW anymore, I went to the website and yes, It didn’t have Adam’s MW anymore. I didn’t go to see all the vids they have. Now I’m curious, looks like I have to see it on September 24.

Does Adam ever mention this in any interview?

I was at that concert and saw the bra toss in question. I was almost close enough to touch it, not that I’d want to. And it didn’t originate from any older fan. She was correct in saying it was white, but it was definitely not a triple Z. I guess it was more on the line of a 34B.

I too was there. I left a comment on that article with some bra throwing clarification. lol It totally wasn’t a triple z. And not from “cougar” either.

Hey! If you saw it, you must have been not far from me! I was a hair right of center, about 5 back.

I found the MySpace blog Griffins posted back in October talking about how excited he was Avalanche made the record. He definitely makes it clear he worked WITH David.

As far as I can determine, with the help of the urban dictionary, a ‘purple nurfle’ would be a hickey.

I think he says purple nurple, which is a titty twister, not a hickey.

This may have been posted during the days that I was without a computer, but it is the longest version of the ‘Flash Forward’  promos that I have seen with Adam’s Mad World.

http://abc.go.com/shows/flash-forward/

After following this link, you have to click on ‘more videos’  and select the video labeled ‘A worldwide phenomenom’  I think the title fits.

Thank you for posting. That is the longest version of Mad World I’ve seen. I wonder how old that promo is. The TV trailer didn’t have Mad World in it. I’ve only seen it once, but there could be more than one version.

I agree with Kirsten and Sasha. The guy writes songs. Kris and Adam need good songs. If he can produce one, who cares about his personality? Lots of creative people are assholes. Even some of the best. Its all about the final product.

I don’t care if he gets a song on the album if it’s a great song. But it rubs me wrong that he’s in the press talking about Adam’s album and taking subtle (ok, not so subtle), sly digs at him, simply to promote himself and his work. Heck, he got two articles out of it on MTV and VH1. I know it’s called shameless self-promotion and it’s done all the time, but I can still call an asshole an asshole.

I doubt Jim C. was using his show to knock Adam down a peg or two. He’s not a big fan and loves to make fun of him, but I don’t think he’s ever hated him. I just think he has the sense of humor of a 12 year old (and I think he admitted this at some point), so I’m sure he just loved the farted trend. Right up his alley.

This interview was on May 12th.

So if he is writing for Adam he’s a hypocrite and a bottom-feeder for trying to glom off of him and if he’s not then he’s a liar.

Source: http://www.bullz-eye.com/music/interviews/2009/kevin_griffin.htm

Somehow I don’t like it when Kevin Griffin said something about FOB and Kylie Minogue. I don’t know FOB but I don’t like Kylie.

May 12 was before the finale right? I guess he’s happy that Kris won. But I bet that press reviews of the tour and great receptions for Adam in every venue shocked him like someone had shot him with a Taser gun. And now he wanted to be part of the buzz and is kissing Adam and 19/RCA’s tuchus to get the job. I hope Adam’s PR had his interview in file and I hope Adam & RCA don’t like Kevin’s song.

I think he says purple nurple, which is a titty twister, not a hickey.

Ah, what a difference a consonant makes. Thanks Truthiness. That is even more funny.

Adamme: Somehow I don’t like it when Kevin Griffin said something about FOB and Kylie Minogue. I don’t know FOB but I don’t like Kylie.

I don’t like Kylie either. She is an Aussie who is/was huge in Europe. Her style is far too ‘dancy-dance’ for me.

I really don’t know much about FOB. They don’t get airplay on my local rock stations, but our Alternative station leans heavily to Active, and our 2 Active Rock stations rip faces off. So, I do know that FOB isn’t going to rip off anyone’s face.

Hey! If you saw it, you must have been not far from me! I was a hair right of center, about 5 back.

I had a good view of said article of clothing, being I was front row. Yay!

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid21492743001?bclid=1675979644&bctid=36918255001

Interview with Matt, Danny, Kris

Thanks for the link to the interview. I had heard the audio, which was longer, I think, but I hadn’t seen the video.

Man, Kris looks so tiny! And gosh, these boys sure are huggy.

Kevin Griffin is an ASS, an unprincipled and foolish one at that. One should never attempt to sh*#t where one eats. But, if the man can write a descent song for Adam I’m all for it. I really don’t care where the good songs come from, they are far too rare to be picky about the source.
Saying that however, I must add, that based on Mr. Griffin’s work on Ezra and Cook, I truly doubt the man is capable of any beyond generic dreck.

Cook has one great song on his album, imo, and that’s Permanent. Kudos to David for writing it.

http://www.newstimes.com/ci_13263066

That was a nice article. Norman/Nick was pretty funny ‘“ I liked him on the finale.

Not an auspicious beginning to ‘Normund Gentle’s’ attempt at a career if they couldn’t even spell his fake name right….

aww at Allison making fun of Anoop after Beat it..

Now allison doing thriller would have been very interesting

Ah, what a difference a consonant makes. Thanks Truthiness. That is even more funny.

Hey, that’s just what I heard and thought it was, given the context of it, but I could be all wrong. I have no intentions of watching it again to find out if I heard correctly, so again, I could be the mistaken one.

New Leona Lewis single “Happy”, Ryan Tedder and Leona wrote it together
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6x04W8EHMg

Interesting story from MTV. I can live with an Adam album that has songs like this. ETA: to clarify – mainly if there is some rock involved like FOB.

This may have been posted during the days that I was without a computer, but it is the longest version of the ‘Flash Forward’  promos that I have seen with Adam’s Mad World.

http://abc.go.com/shows/flash-forward/

After following this link, you have to click on ‘more videos’  and select the video labeled ‘A worldwide phenomenom’  I think the title fits.

The last time Q3 mentioned that the promo didn’t have MW anymore, I went to the website and yes, It didn’t have Adam’s MW anymore. I didn’t go to see all the vids they have. Now I’m curious, looks like I have to see it on September 24.

The “Worldwide Phenomenon” FlashForward is dated 9/2/09 — so just posted in the past couple of days. They didn’t use MW for any of the late August promos and now it’s back. Since it’s 1:31, looks more like a movie theater commercial vs. a TV promo — thouse are usually :15, :30 and 1:00.

I wish a reporter or fan would ask Adam about what is going on with MW and FlashForward. Or maybe we’ll just have to wait until 9/24/09 to find out.

Watching the US Open and they are playing Daughtry’s ‘No Surprise’. I seriously had to wait for the chorus because I thought it was Nickleback

I missed a friggin twitter party last night .BE BACK LATER !!!!

Squirrely
September 5, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Watching the US Open and they are playing Daughtry’s ‘No Surprise’. I seriously had to wait for the chorus because I thought it was Nickleback

Chad’s and Chris’ voices are so distinctive, I could never confuse the two. The song, however is very Nickelback for a good reason. Chris co-wrote it with Chad Kroeger.

Thanks for the link to the interview. I had heard the audio, which was longer, I think, but I hadn’t seen the video.

Man, Kris looks so tiny! And gosh, these boys sure are huggy.

Kris is adorbs in that. Matt was funny imitating Danny getting a haircut. And yeah, lots of man love going on there ‘“ with the interviewers too.

ETA: I have never heard Adam mention this guys name when he talks about the people he’s working with, so if he is working with him it may not be because he chooses to.

I remembered he mentioned that they have songs that were written for him. So yeah, probably he’s in RCA’s email list and RCA sent out a request to these songwriters to write for Adam. What he said? He wants to get on High-profile project?

If Kris is tiny, and Danny is between 1/2 and 1″ taller than Kris, then Danny is by default, also tiny.

I like Fall Out Boy :] a lot of people hate them though.

Review of last night’s concert:

Lambert delivers performance worthy of idolizing

A week or so ago, someone on AO was talking about Flashforward. The “rumor” from someone with “inside” info says Mad World will be played during the first show-pilot only. You know how rumors can be.

Leona sings so weirdly… there’s a lot of sugar in that song. Actually it sounds like how a classic Mariah song could sound a few years back.

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New Leona Lewis single ‘Happy’ , Ryan Tedder and Leona wrote it together

That link didn’t work but I think I found another version of it and I gotta say, that song is kinda boring.

Wow! That was a glowing review for Adam! I think it was one of the best that I have read. As the tour winds down, I think we have a consensus across the nation: Adam Lambert is Awesome! clapping!

If Kris is tiny, and Danny is between 1/2 and 1′ ³ taller than Kris, then Danny is by default, also tiny.

I think that Danny is about average height. He is 5’9. How tall is Kris, around 5’7? I think that Danny is a couple of inches taller than Kris is.

Review of last night’s concert:

Lambert delivers performance worthy of idolizing

That was NICE for Adam. He continues to get better, where Megan on the other end seems to be getting worse.

I saw a promo for Flash Forward last weekend and it had Mad World at the end of it. I saw it on one of the cable stations.

Kris can’t be 5’7 can he?

and it’s not just height that contributes to tininess. He’s also a bit scrawny and his personality/demeanor is kind of meek. Plus, he’s got that little baby face and no chest hair. He’s so wittle!!!

If you clicked the link to that interview that was posted near the bottom of the last page, even the top of Danny’s hat wouldn’t be two inches above Kris’ head. They are very close in height. Danny usually wears real shoes, and Kris usually wears sneakers.

Kris may have little chest hair, but he does have a man’s voice. Since I am not a fan because of his amount of chest hair, but am a fan of the voice, I’m good with that.

But so could a lot of singers around the country. The first glimmer of freshness came with Matt Giraud (#5). When he leapt onstage with “Hard to Handle,” he punched a hole right through all that slick and stuffy talent show-iness, and kept going with a ringing falsetto on “Georgia on My Mind.”

Seriously, Matt should have been signed by now.

A week or so ago, someone on AO was talking about Flashforward. The ‘rumor’  from someone with ‘inside’  info says Mad World will be played during the first show-pilot only. You know how rumors can be.

There are a lot of rumors flying around about FlashFoward and MW. Can’t see why this needs to be a “state secret”.

They do keep using the same two pieces of music for the FlashForward promos — Clint Mansell’s “Lux Aeterna” from Requiem for a Dream, and Mad World. I have given up guessing or trusting any of the “inside” info.

Kris IS tiny. When I met him in person, he wasn’t that much taller than me and I’m 5-4. He has a baby face and an extremely diminutive physical frame. He’s a cutie though.

That was an awesome review.

If the ultimate performance is to create a world onstage, he succeeded: he’s a tripped-out, Depp-esque Willy Wonka tour guide looking to strap the audience into a rollercoaster ride through his X-rated fun factory.

I love all the crazy OTT descriptions of Adam.

Me too MGK, I love them!

As long as they are not taking a swipe at his sexuality.

oh those crazy OTT adam reviews….

well from what I seen of the concert reviews: adam is second coming of jesus, allison/matt are great-amazing, Kris gets a mix bag, and everyone else the critics really don’t care about

Wow, until I read that Nick Mitchell piece, I don’t think I ever realized Hollywood Week is SIX WEEKS LONG?

Relax everyone…Hollywood Week is Hollywood WEEK. It lasts approximately a week. Norman made the top 36. Three weeks for that. A filler week here and there and we have the 6 weeks Norman/Nick said he was in Hollywood. Here is the article quote:

I know it sounds so politically correct, but we all truly bonded together for those six weeks we were out in Hollywood.

Hope this clears it all up for everyone.

For Archie fans: From his blog:

http://davidarchuletanetwork.ning.com/profiles/blogs/todays-blog-3

Seems he’s finishing his Christmas album. Did a concert in Alaska, and gives props to Jason’s new song.

There’s nothing wrong with boys being itty bitty. Some people like that- Katy for instance.

I’m 5’7 and stood close to Kris when I met him and he felt a bit shorter than me. He’s REALLY small.

alison8701
September 5, 2009 at 2:37 pm

There’s nothing wrong with boys being itty bitty. Some people like that- Katy for instance.

Katy is tiny. From the pictures I’ve seen Kris is taller than her and Kris seems small to me.

Some exclusive pictures from Jason’s video shoot for his new single:

http://pacificcoastnewsonline.celebuzz.com/2009/09/jason-castro-falls-in-love-aga.html?bfm_index=0&bfm_page=0

Q3, thanks for that review link.

And let’s hear it for KATJUSA CISAR of The Capital Times, who can actually write. May even have listened and taken notes. And, no, we don’t think that’s Adam’s father’s nom de reviewer. Though if the praise wasn’t so well backed up with well-phrased reporting, we might suspect. Can’t ask for better than better than Plant.

And though speaking of the tour, this is a nice one line AI synopsis:

Without a fresh vision for a song, they resort to simply singing the hell out of it.

And could, IMHO, serve as a cautionary tale for season 9 contestants, as in:

Show fresh vision on show = Place high on AI
Only sing hell out of it = Possible tour slot, but no giving up the day job.

It’s true about the post Idol and tour, too.
Fresh vision = Get signed
Only sing the hell out of it = Not yet

(In both cases, Danny Gokey being the rule’s possible exception there. Though if his vision had been fresher, his strong singing might have gotten signed faster.)

http://host.madison.com/entertainment/music/article_f8c5e0ae-9a14-11de-a9e5-001cc4c002e0.html

Yet another great review for Adam, Alison and Matt. There was a very nice comment on Kris’ “Heartless” also. I am so happy for them.

I am not leaving folks. Anyone who can see the relative height of Kris vs. the other guys, can do the math for themselves.

Well, like I said, height isn’t the only factor in him being tiny.

Like I said. It’s no big. Some people like ‘em pocket sized.

Kris stood right in front of me in Tampa and he has got to be at least 5′ 7″. He is not the type I like but he is very attractive and nicely compact and solid looking. I wouldn’t say tiny because he doesn’t look delicate IMO. Really cute!

Thanks, Tess, that makes far more sense. I was figuring Top 36 was wrapped in the six weeks and it still seemed long to me.

Sounds like jambajim is trying to take Adam down a few notches by using that adamfarted schtick as if it was true.

That whole incident was so juvenile and idiotic that I feel like I’d have to regress to the age of 7 to comment on it. Watch for them to trend #adamsmotherfarted next and change the group song to “Jingle bells. Batman smells. Robin laid an egg…”. Or maybe the classic “Abraham Lincoln, whatcha been drinkin? Is it water, is it wine? Oh my God it’s turpentine.”

Well, like I said, height isn’t the only factor in him being tiny.

Like I said. It’s no big. Some people like ‘em pocket sized.

Hence the nicknames ‘hot pocket’ and ‘pocket idol’

Per Twitter, Kris, Anoop and Michael are all watching college football.

Wonder what Adam’s doing.

Another rave review for Adam. I love it, and Adam so deserves them. I’m really surprised that even in the other idols’ hometowns, Adam is the one who gets the best, most glowing reviews (with the exception of Arkansas). How many reviews have there been? At least 50 — some cities had more than one article/review. How many negative ones did Adam get? Possibly two?

C’mon, record label companies. Sign Matt already. I am convinced, at a minimum an indie label will sign him. I’m still optimistic for a major. I have to give Matt credit. He is not just “waiting”, he is already booking shows for after the tour ends.

“His shot up Led Zeppelin’s “Whole Lotta Love” with enough thrusting and theatricality to fill up two Alliant Energy Centers. It was flat-out better than the original (and I’ll stand by that sacrilegious statement).-KATJUSA CISAR The Capital Times | Posted: Saturday, September 5, 2009 12:35 pm ”

Madison reviewer – he is not the first to say this- I think it was Rushfield formerly of LA times that voiced similar opinion.

So we now eagerly await the new issue of Adam’s fresh vision of songs – his new album.

BestAI- There was a very good review of Adam in Arkansaw and I wish I had saved it. I remember I even posted it in the tour thread but there was not much of a response. I wish I could find it again. It even praised Adam more than Kris which really surprised me.

I guess I don’t get the height thing. I mean I would if I were going to be dating Kris because I typically don’t date guys shorter than my 5’8″ self, but I’m not, so I don’t care. That being said, yes, I believe he’s about his stated height to be around 5’7″ and that’s fine. I think Danny is a bit taller and looks from what I can see to be his stated 5’9″, and that too is fine. And I think the interview with them and Matt is cute and they look like they were having fun and being funny. I love when Kris feels comfortable enough to his cute, funny self, that doesn’t happen enough with the more boring interviewers out there.

ETA:

Madison reviewer ‘“ he is not the first to say this- I think it was Rushfield formerly of LA times that voiced similar opinion.

IIRC, Rushfield said that he thought that Adam did Bowie better, and Tweeted that he told Adam that, and that Adam very vocally disagreed with him about that, but that he stood by it. But that’s just what I remember.

That whole incident was so juvenile and idiotic that I feel like I’d have to regress to the age of 7 to comment on it.

Eh. It doesn’t bother me. Seriously, they were stir crazy. I can see how it went down. Somebody did fart. For some reason, they decided it was Adam (or thought that would be funny if it was Adam. Maybe because he was the one sleeping). Then, with the way stupid things trend on twitter, they tried it out and voila. I mean, if we are honest, everybody farts sooner or later, so nobody is in a position to judge Adam if he really did fart. LOL. It’s not like they accused him of peeing his pants (Fergie!).

There are a lot more juvenile/idiotic things going on during this tour that Idols could be embarassed about (but really, it’s the fans, so what can you do? The Idols aren’t at fault and fans, they never change).

Frankly, I see nothing wrong with the Idols being a little silly and I hope they follow tradition and are silly on the last night of the tour.

FifthHouseSun: (In both cases, Danny Gokey being the rule’s possible exception there. Though if his vision had been fresher, his strong singing might have gotten signed faster.)

I actually believe if Danny or Matt had a clear, fresh artistic point of view, either of them could have won Idol. Danny is really a gifted vocalist, he just has no idea who to use the gift he was given. And, Matt is so, so talented, he just lacks maturity, training and musical experience. If only he had been a couple of years older, and more experienced, when he went on Idol, he might have been a more focused artist. IMO Matt is proof that talent is not enough to be successful — you really need to know who you are and know what kind of music you want to perform.

But no matter how they all placed, I still think Adam would have been the breakout star of AI8.

think it was Rushfield formerly of LA times that voiced similar opinion

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No, I am almost sure that Rushfield said that Adam did one of the Bowie songs better. It was either Fame or Let’s Dance.

I like Fall Out Boy :] a lot of people hate them though.

Yeah seriously. What would you call them, like pop-emo or something like that? And they have a lot of tweener/teen fans. They are polarizing, that’s for sure.

Adam’s album is sounding more and more pop rather than rock. I’m ridiculously curious at this point. He might actually go more in the direction I call brat-rock. LOL. 20 something guys who whine or brag about money and sex to a catchy pop/rock beat. Think Cobra Starship, 3Oh!3, Fallout Boy, Boys Like Girls. If he did that I would be totally surprised, I was certainly not expecting that. We’ll see soon enough!

Wow! That was a glowing review for Adam! I think it was one of the best that I have read. As the tour winds down, I think we have a consensus across the nation: Adam Lambert is Awesome! clapping!

He’s gotten some great tour reviews, which is unusual. Those are typically really brutal every year. You are lucky if you get a mixed bag by the time you are done, or a tepid thumbs up, rather than an all out trashing or being completely ignored. Adam’s have been consistently fantastic. He should be proud.

Madison reviewer ‘“ he is not the first to say this- I think it was Rushfield formerly of LA times that voiced similar opinion.

And the fox news anchor that interviewed him on his home-coming. Now I’m wondering what’s the Zepp kids think of Adam. They’re fans of Adam.

‘His shot up Led Zeppelin’s ‘Whole Lotta Love’  with enough thrusting and theatricality to fill up two Alliant Energy Centers. It was flat-out better than the original (and I’ll stand by that sacrilegious statement).-KATJUSA CISAR The Capital Times | Posted: Saturday, September 5, 2009 12:35 pm ‘ 

I know I’m a ‘tard and all that, but I totally agree. Plant’s version was on the radio the other day and I found it very “talky” by comparison; Adam’s is more melodic.

I tried to watch some Plant YouTubes after that to compare and I ended up getting a little bored (not to mention ‘“ though I loved the music ‘“ I never found ’70s or ’80s rockers all that sexy). Maybe I didn’t find the right one, but I listened to a few.

Yeah seriously. What would you call them, like pop-emo or something like that? And they have a lot of tweener/teen fans. They are polarizing, that’s for sure.

Adam’s album is sounding more and more pop rather than rock. I’m ridiculously curious at this point. He might actually go more in the direction I call brat-rock. LOL. 20 something guys who whine or brag about money and sex to a catchy pop/rock beat. Think Cobra Starship, 3Oh!3, Fallout Boy, Boys Like Girls. If he did that I would be totally surprised, I was certainly not expecting that. We’ll see soon enough!

Pop rock.. emo I suppose. I don’t really think they’re all that emo. At all.. but Pete wears eyeliner and flat irons his hair so he is emo. Gee, who else is accused of being emo cause of eye liner and straightened black hair?

Honestly, it’s just cool to hate Fall Out Boy. But they’re really not whiney or emo or anything. people haven’t gotten pretty snobby about music lately.

well from what I seen of the concert reviews: adam is second coming of jesus

I am sick & tired of Adam. Sorry, that’s how I feel. He didn’t win me over during the competition & I’m fed up with the overkill after the competition. Seriously, I don’t think anyone has ever gone to a Broadway musical or a Vegas show because Adam is not unique whatsoever.

RT @cherylagogo: RT @youlackcolor @ADAMLAMBERT SO, DID YOU FART OR NOT? Nope. Haha I was actually sleeping in my bunk. They were punking meabout 14 hours ago from TwitterFon

And it’s not whether he did or not, but tweeting it was silly and Jim C reporting on it was even sillier.

I like my guys several inches taller than myself (over 5-9) ), but apparently AI fans like ‘em short: Kris, Archie, JCastro, Daughtry. I believe they are all about the same height.

Kris is short, but I wouldn’t call him tiny by body size. Could be he looks teeny tiny because he has a small head/face. He looks really short next to Adam even when Adam wears flip flops. Danny looks a couple of inches taller than Kris, but his head/face looks bigger, so he doesn’t seem “tiny”.

Madison reviewer ‘“ he is not the first to say this- I think it was Rushfield formerly of LA times that voiced similar opinion.

Other reviewers may have writen this but not Richard Rushfield. In fact, Rushfield is one of the reviewers who preferred Kris’ concert performance to Adam’s. And, although he has writen some nice things about Adam, he’s never been OTT about Adam and I can’t find that he ever wrote that Adam was better than Plant or Bowie.

Honestly, it’s just cool to hate Fall Out Boy. But they’re really not whiney or emo or anything. people haven’t gotten pretty snobby about music lately.

Lately? LOL. That’s been going on forever. Though I do think Pete’s voice is whiny. I think they get the emo tag not just because of the look, but because a number of the songs have that emo outlook even if the music is uptempo punk-ish. themes like “F-you ex-girlfriend” or “the world is screwed up”. I like some of their songs though.

Lately? LOL. That’s been going on forever. Though I do think Pete’s voice is whiny. I think they get the emo tag not just because of the look, but because a number of the songs have that emo outlook even if the music is uptempo punk-ish. themse like ‘F-you ex-girlfriend’  or ‘the world is screwed up’ . I like some of their songs though.

Pete is the bassist and has a terrible voice. The lead singer is Patrick.

they did a song with Elvis Costello recently. Not too shabby.

Regarding the Twitter trend that shall not be named: It has nothing to do with Adam. I thought the original tweet was stupid. But that’s just me. I have no use for potty humor. Never have. Never will.

I thank God my nephews’ preoccupation with it only lasted until about the age of 6.

I get that many find it funny and that’s fine, I just don’t happen to be one of them. I wouldn’t have found the trend funny if it were about George W. Bush.

Pete is the bassist and has a terrible voice. The lead singer is Patrick.

they did a song with Elvis Costello recently. Not too shabby.

Damn shame I always forget the lead singer’s name. LOL. Can you tell they are not one of my favorites?

Elvis Costello huh? I think I wanna hear that.

Damn shame I always forget the lead singer’s name. LOL. Can you tell they are not one of my favorites?

Elvis Costello huh? I think I wanna hear that.

Yeah, it’s kind of obvious :p

the song is “What A Catch, Donnie” it’s actually… if I do say so myself.. quite good. Go on, have a listen!

Vada more important things going on in this world right now then IDOL.
Let me say this like allison would.

FOOTBAAALLLLLLLLLLLL Wahoooooooooooo

Elvis Costello huh? I think I wanna hear that.

I wanna heat that too! Link Alison~~

was Rushfield formerly of LA times that voiced similar opinion.

And the fox news anchor that interviewed him on his home-coming. Now I’m wondering what’s the Zepp kids think of Adam. They’re fans of Adam.

I think it wasn’t a Fox anchor, but one of their field reporters types, he did a few bits with Adam, one at the airport where he said he ‘saw Adam coming in with a big bag and was that his make-up one?’ oh so funny! Adam was very nice and gave a big laugh to his lameness and said, ‘yeah, not at all.’ Later on ,said reporter said that some were saying Adam’s WLL was better than the original, and Adam very firmly disagreed, IIRC twice, because the reporter dude brought it up again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fme-kzS3DuI

FOB, song with Mr. Costello.

the music video. I think the music video is real sweet too.

Latest Rockstar Weekly – talks about the fan contest

http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/842/149/

Yeah, it’s kind of obvious :p

LMAO! Okay, now I feel bad. I don’t hate them, but I’ve never gone out of my way to hear their stuff. I like a couple of the things Ive heard and the rest… not so much. I have not been inspired to investigate further.

I did like that Elvis Costello song. A bit slow and retro sounding, but not in a bad way.

LMAO! Okay, now I feel bad. I don’t hate them, but I’ve never gone out of my way to hear their stuff. I like a couple of the things Ive heard and the rest’ ¦ not so much. I have not been inspired to investigate further.

I did like that Elvis Costello song. A bit slow and retro sounding, but not in a bad way.

S’alright, no big deal. They’re not my fave either, but I’m not ashamed of liking them.

Latest Rockstar Weekly ‘“ talks about the fan contest

http://www.rockstarweekly.com/content/view/842/149/

Ugggggh. I HATED if I Can’t Have You. That one and I Just Love You makes me cringe. I’ll just pretend Adam never sang those songs.

IMO Matt is proof that talent is not enough to be successful ‘” you really need to know who you are and know what kind of music you want to perform.

Q3, agree with that and all you said.

Though, many Matt fans have said that Matt knows what he wants, he wants to be soul, new soul. Which though a hard, hard route, is a fine thing. But – and I know I risk missile range assaults here, but I’m avoiding work, so procrastination can prod all kinds of musings, and I truly only want the best for Matt – I wish, on the show, and most especially on the “sign me up” showcase of the tour he had emphasized the new.

He performs “Hard to Handle” brilliantly. The crowd loves it. But it’s not new. It’s the opposite of new. It’s covering a cover of the untouchable Otis. (And it was surprising to hear Matt say in interview he chose it because he “wanted to do some Black Crowes”.) It’s such a cover band song it’s covered (really well) in the cover band movie The Commitments. With all that “cover”, there is nothing about Matt’s performance to give limited vision record exec any reason to think beyond: Cover guy. A great one. But, still, where would I sell him?

Very IMHO – It’s the “fresh vision” thing. If Matt had taken an old slow soul song — even something from the wondrous Stax-Volt catalogue– and suprisingly performed it exactly like he does “Hard to Handle”, it would have been the same fiery crowd pleaser, while showing something new. Or if he had souled down HTH to a ballad, like Adam did “If I Can’t Have You” for example, then he would have been spell binding arenas with his new take. At least it would have shown the uniqueness that no doubt Matt has in that immense talent. And is certainly displayed in his fabulous piano.

And may all his upcoming demos showcase his rare qualities and boost him to happiness.

. Somebody did fart. For some reason, they decided it was Adam (or thought that would be funny if it was Adam. Maybe because he was the one sleeping). Then, with the way stupid things trend on twitter, they tried it out and voila. I mean, if we are honest, everybody farts sooner or later, so nobody is in a position to judge Adam if he really did fart. LOL. It’s not like they accused him of peeing his pants (Fergie!).

Any 7 year old will tell you that whoever smelt it, dealt it.

When did he do these interviews?

BryanStars Editing my interview with American Idol Danny Gokey. Follow me for updates as I post the Idol interviews all week!!31 minutes ago from web

Squirrely
September 5, 2009 at 3:14 pm
RT @cherylagogo: RT @youlackcolor @ADAMLAMBERT SO, DID YOU FART OR NOT? Nope. Haha I was actually sleeping in my bunk. They were punking me about 14 hours ago from TwitterFon

And it’s not whether he did or not, but tweeting it was silly and Jim C reporting on it was even sillier.

I think it was stupid to tweet this and even more silly to report on it.

Looking at the tweet times, there are too many tweets that are at the same time for me to believe this wasn’t synchronized. Anoop tweeted #somefarted and 1 minute later Kris, Matt and Danny tweet the same thing. Then Michael and Scott join in. Then 40 minutes later 5 of them – Anoop, Kris, Matt, Danny and Scott – tweet #adamfarted within 1 minute.

Are we supposed to believe that someone farted on the bus, then thre of them all tweeted about it at the same time? Then 40 minutes later, at exactly the same time, 5 of them realized it was Adam — the only one who was asleep. Looks like a punk to me.

AnoopDoggDesai:

happy trending!
12:16 AM Sep 2nd from web
#adamfarted
11:51 PM Sep 1st from web
#someonefarted
11:10 PM Sep 1st from web

MichaelSarver1:

#adamfarted.
12:47 AM Sep 2nd from web
#someonefarted on the boys bus.
11:22 PM Sep 1st from txt
someone deeeeeefinintly farted.
11:15 PM Sep 1st from txt

KrisAllen4real:

#adamfarted
11:51 PM Sep 1st from web
#someonefarted
11:11 PM Sep 1st from web

ImMattGiraud

#adamfarted hahahahah
11:52 PM Sep 1st from web
I dunno but #someonefarted
11:11 PM Sep 1st from web

IdolScott

#adamfarted
11:52 PM Sep 1st from txt
#someonefarted
11:32 PM Sep 1st from txt

Danny Gokey

#adamfarted Lol
11:52 PM Sep 1st from web
#someonefarted ~ this bus reeks!!!!! smells like booty
11:11 PM Sep 1st from web

saga-Ugggggh. I HATED if I Can’t Have You. That one and I Just Love You makes me cringe. I’ll just pretend Adam never sang those songs.

Those are two of my favorites. Especially the live version of IICHY.

I think it’s highly doubtful that Adam (or Kris, or Allison) have final veto power over everything that goes on their record. Even the most influential names in the business don’t have total creative control and veto power on what gets chosen, and it’s unlikely that Lambert or any alumni this year has that, either. If RCA really, really wants Adam to put a song by Griffin or anyone else on there, it’s unlikely that Adam will be able to keep it off.

“saga-Ugggggh. I HATED if I Can’t Have You. That one and I Just Love You makes me cringe. I’ll just pretend Adam never sang those songs.”

“aa618892 -Those are two of my favorites. Especially the live version of IICHY.”

- It’s a good thing that Adam’s album will have songs for everyone.

Squirrely:

All the interviews BryanStars did were when the AI tour was in Kansas City a few days ago

I am totally with you, Susan M.

Regarding the Twitter trend that shall not be named: It has nothing to do with Adam. I thought the original tweet was stupid. But that’s just me. I have no use for potty humor. Never have. Never will.

I consider this kind of joke disgusting and typical of the uneducated.

Btw, I have just watched on national TV -prime time (in Spain)- a promo of Robbie Williams ´s next album. It would be great if Adam could be in tour with him.

(one example of the top of my head ‘“ Roger Daltrey ‘” what is he, 5′ ²4′ ³ maybe?)
girlygirl- Is Roger Daltrey really short? I didn’t know this. I always pictured him as being tall and remember him as megahot.

Regarding the Twitter trend that shall not be named: It has nothing to do with Adam. I thought the original tweet was stupid. But that’s just me. I have no use for potty humor. Never have. Never will.

I thank God my nephews’ preoccupation with it only lasted until about the age of 6.

I get that many find it funny and that’s fine, I just don’t happen to be one of them. I wouldn’t have found the trend funny if it were about George W. Bush.

This. Although, maybe if it was about Cheney…nyah. Not even then. I don’t find jokes about farts funny. I didn’t when I was 6, I don’t now, and probably never will, unless dementia from Alzheimers creeps into my old age.

And I don’t even think there WAS a fart (and no, I don’t think that Adam doesn’t). I think the whole thing was a joke from the beginning. Some of the guys have been razzing each other about being stinky, and the guys bus getting funky. So they decided to run with that. ha. ha. Not to mention that #someonefarted was a trending topic the day before. It’s Twitter, it’s not that deep. It’s a bunch of boys wanting to have some fun, also not that deep. Like REALLY not that deep.

That article reviewing the audience of David Cook’s concert (it wasn’t so much a review of DC’s concert itself) was hilarious. But just in case you needed clarification on the demographic of who actually threw the bra and what type of cereal was involved, here you go (from the comments section of that article):

I just wanted to offer a little clarification about the bra throwing. That bra actually came from a young twenty-something standing next to me, thrown possibly against her better judgment while under the influence of a couple shots and my very persuasive drunk sister. And it was no triple z either. She had very nice perky respectable breasts. lol It’s a shame about missing the stage though. The aerodynamics of the bra were not good for flying such a distance. Oh and it was a box of Frosted Mini-Wheats, not Capt’n Crunch. Which was actually caught by bra-throwing girl, when he threw it back to the crowd.

saga, I saw your name and it reminded me…you had asked on another thread a few days ago if anyone had a video of the Boston performance of Danny’s that MJ had talked about. (aek and Jx223, if you haven’t seen this one you will like it, I really like the part toward the end when the camera pulls back and you can see the crowd).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Qtlvgs-nw

Well, the #someonefarted was encouraged by Anoop. the most educated and smartest on the bus.

I think people are taking it a bit too seriously. It was silly. They were taking advantage of the fact that Adam had fallen asleep and were just teasing. Farting, although perhaps.. juvenile? is kind of natural thing. Someone probably farted on the bus, and the played the blame game on the easy target. Really not that big of a deal, and really, not anything to get all high and mighty about. Oh dear me, someone fahted! Uncouth, uncouth!

Steve Perry is a small man with a big phenomenal voice, to name one of many. To me Kris is just average in so many ways.

To me Kris is just average in so many ways.

Exactly how I feel.

Thanks Josie! You posted right in the middle of my you tube marathon so I am happy!

Hey alison, did you check out the DBS video from last night? I thought Anoop was really good in it.

and I can’t find that he ever wrote that Adam was better than Plant or Bowie.

Q3 It’s in his Tweets from when he went to a concert, LA I believe. Because his Tweet says that he told Adam that he thought he was better than Bowie for something and his Tweet said that and that Adam disagreed with him.

I don’t know if one can go back that far to look at Tweets, but I don’t care to look, so the point is moot for me

Btw, I have just watched on national TV -prime time (in Spain)- a promo of Robbie Williams ´s next album. It would be great if Adam could be in tour with him.

dyg1-I think we discussed this on the last headline thread and I wholeheartedly agree. They would be great touring together. Love Robbie.

from 7/16/09 the night of LA concert

I said to adamlambert last week that his let’s dance is better than Bowie.He got indignant and said u can’t say that But I’m saying it again
11:36 PM Jul 16th from TwitterFon

richardrushfield

Like REALLY not that deep.

Truthiness- I am going to fart right now to prove this.

just don’t tweet about it ;p

and no, saga I haven’t seen them yet. But I will look.. where were they at? :/

Go to the concert thread, suz posted a lot of videos and all of Anoops songs but the sound’s a bit weird on his own set. In DSB megan and saver starts really bad followed by lil and then Anoop shows up and just knocks them out of the park.

Alison8701

You aren’t “telling the truth” — you are expressing your own opinion. One that I, for one, don’t agree with. Expressing your opinion is fine, but please don’t assume everyone agrees with your “truths”.

I may have missed this, but Adam is working with Kevin Rudolf too? I knew Allison was, but I got this tweet:

KEVINRUDOLFnews Kevin’s in the studio with American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert working on tracks for Adam’s new album. about 1 hour ago from web

I don’t believe that Kris’ height matters at all. My guess is Kris is 5’5″ (without shoes). But many really successful pop/rock stars are not tall, a few: Elton John 5’7″, Billy Joel 5’5″, Fred Durst (singer for band “Limp Bizkit”) 5’5 to 5’4″, Lou Reed 5’5″, Sammy Davis Jr. 5’3″, Davy Jones (singer for the Monkees) 5’3″, Prince 5’2-1/2″, Paul Simon (of Simon and Garfunkel) 5’2″.

Prince is really short and very slight, but he is gigantic when he is on the stage — a force to be reconed with!

saga-Ugggggh. I HATED if I Can’t Have You. That one and I Just Love You makes me cringe. I’ll just pretend Adam never sang those songs.

I love both of these songs! Actually, the only Adam songs I don’t like are:

1. Crying (Live) because of the B/U vocalist soundmix issue (love the studio recording).

2. One (Live) because Adam didn’t control the high notes – seems like too much adrenalin (love the studio recording of this, too).

3. “Black or White” which just doesn’t quite work for me. The arrangement just doesn’t work on this one and the vocals are kind of messed up. JMHO.

4. I HATE “Want” but I do not count that as an Adam song or performance.

I may have missed this, but Adam is working with Kevin Rudolf too? I knew Allison was, but I got this tweet:

KEVINRUDOLFnews Kevin’s in the studio with American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert working on tracks for Adam’s new album. about 1 hour ago from web

Maybe Alison was so positive he wanted to give it a try too?

just don’t tweet about it ;p

tweet, toot, let’s call the whole thing off.

alison8701
September 5, 2009 at 3:32 pm

the music video. I think the music video is real sweet too.

Thanks for posting this! I really liked it. It was almost as much fun watching him play the piano as it is Kris. The vid was good and really liked the song. Thanks again!

KEVINRUDOLFnews Kevin’s in the studio with American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert working on tracks for Adam’s new album. about 1 hour ago from web

When was that?

Maybe Alison was so positive he wanted to give it a try too?

Heh. He’s trying to get some more of that 19R cash while they’re giving it away. I think whoever said it upthread was dead on… these Idol records are high profile and almost guaranteed to sell better than average. Every year 19 comes around with lost of money to spend, looking for anyone who has had a hit on the pop charts. I think lots of songwriters are looking to get in on the action. Adam has the most high profile Idol project this year, guaranteed to get a big international push. Big payout in royalties for a songwriter lucky enough to end up on the album. Good for Mr Rudolf! Get that summer house, dude.

Thanks for posting this! I really liked it. It was almost as much fun watching him play the piano as it is Kris. The vid was good and really liked the song. Thanks again!

Haha, watching patrick play is pretty funny. and you’re welcome!

steve
September 5, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Vada more important things going on in this world right now then IDOL.
Let me say this like allison would.

FOOTBAAALLLLLLLLLLLL Wahoooooooooooo

Cool stuff! SO what are we all doing here then?

KEVINRUDOLFnews Kevin’s in the studio with American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert working on tracks for Adam’s new album. about 1 hour ago from web

What does anyone know about Kevin Rudolf? What has he written?

Aloha and good morning all,

Nice to see everyone in such fine, spunky form. First, GREAT review for Adam and I agree with whoever said the reviewer is also a good writer. Made me want to read it again.

Kris is tiny, but how does that affect his adorableness? (is that a word?)

Kevin Griffin may be a good songwriter but he is also a guy who described Adam in a most demeaning way. He didn’t just insult him, his insults actually, in my opinion, bordered on the homophobic. Why else the Cher reference? And THAT is what turned me off more than anything. Why should Adam put up with that? There are A-listers beating down the door to work with him. He will have plenty of good material to choose from.

edit: don’t snap at posters or tell them what to post

BTW, did anyone notice that Megan looked really, really good in her new haircut? I ran into her shopping w/o makeup, wearing sandals. She is small and absolutely beautiful. In CA, she might be a dime a dozen, but still doesn’t take away from her beauty.

I think alison is having a mean-Kris-day. The only thing to do is to distract her with Anoop goodies.

Anoop?? Where?

Thanks for pointing me to the vids, saga. I’m watching Beggin’ right now. In fact, I just missed the rap, dangit.

I like Kris’s size. My son is small for his age (blame me) and was concerned about it. I used Kris as an example of the fact that one can be small but mighty!!!!!

To me Kris is just average in so many ways.

That statement works for me

aa618892
What does anyone know about Kevin Rudolf? What has he written?

His only big hit was Let it Rock feat. Weezy. It’s a nice song. Sort of rock techno kind of song.

Why should Adam put up with that? There are A-listers beating down the door to work with him. He will have plenty of good material to choose from.

I really don’t think it’s going to be up to Adam which songs he ends up recording.

BestAI
September 5, 2009 at 4:33 pm

KEVINRUDOLFnews Kevin’s in the studio with American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert working on tracks for Adam’s new album. about 1 hour ago from web

When was that?

No idea. The tweet just says about an hour ago. Adam just tweeted a couple of things and he has the usual stuff today, so maybe it’s just plans or happened this morning?

Kevin Griffin may be a good songwriter but he is also a guy who described Adam in a most demeaning way. He didn’t just insult him, his insults actually, in my opinion, bordered on the homophobic. Why else the Cher reference? And THAT is what turned me off more than anything. Why should Adam put up with that? There are A-listers beating down the door to work with him. He will have plenty of good material to choose from.

I didn’t want to say that, but I’m totally in agreement. Not only the Cher reference, but I was totally put off by his cross-dressing reference. If I were Adam, I wouldn’t give him the time of day. Adam is in demand, and he doesn’t need that homophobe.

KEVINRUDOLFnews Kevin’s in the studio with American Idol runner-up Adam Lambert working on tracks for Adam’s new album. about 1 hour ago from web

But how tall is Kevin Rudolf? Is he tall enough to have enough talent to work with Adam? Will it make me like Adam’s music less if written by a short guy?

I keed.

Hmmm. That’s some interesting (and actual) news. Thanks for sharing.

I think it was stupid to tweet this and even more silly to report on it.

I thought the fart thing was silly, infantile, but funny…No harm done.

Cantiello talking about it? Stupidity at its peak

That review was fantastic!So well written

I hope Adam’s friend Alison Porter makes it. She is one talented girl. To me, she is the female version of Adam. Beautiful vocals and incredible range. She can also dance. You can see why Adam never made it w/o American Idol. Alison has been in the biz longer than Adam, and she is still a virtual unknown. I think Adam is very generous to give a shout-out to his friends. He could be selfish and think “me, me, me”.

Chipmunk

That review was fantastic!So well written

Agree!

I love your avatar, Chipmunk

I don’t know what’s funnier – the fart on the bus timeline or the fact that it has to be proven that short men can be successful and talented.

Okay the fart timeline is funnier. Gee no comments that Danny is a hairy beast (at least Kris thinks so in that video).

I hope Adam’s friend Alison Porter makes it. She is one talented girl. To me, she is the female version of Adam. Beautiful vocals and incredible range. She can also dance. You can see why Adam never made it w/o American Idol. Alison has been in the biz longer than Adam, and she is still a virtual unknown. I think Adam is very generous to give a shout-out to his friends. He could be selfish and think ‘me, me, me’ .

I also really like Alisan, I think she is great. I don’t know why she isn’t signed, at least to an indie label.

Kevin Rudolph did Let It Rock with Lil Wayne, also co wrote Cobra Starship’s Good Girls Go Bad and Hot Mess, both on the charts right now.

aa618892
September 5, 2009 at 4:04 pm
(one example of the top of my head ‘“ Roger Daltrey ‘” what is he, 5′ ²4′ ³ maybe?)
girlygirl- Is Roger Daltrey really short? I didn’t know this. I always pictured him as being tall and remember him as megahot.

Roger Daltrey is 5′ 7″ in his bare feet.

Truthiness: Q3 It’s in his Tweets from when he went to a concert, LA I believe. Because his Tweet says that he told Adam that he thought he was better than Bowie for something and his Tweet said that and that Adam disagreed with him.

Truthiness – you speak the TRUTH!! And have a great memory. Here’s the tweet:

I said to adamlambert last week that his let’s dance is better than Bowie.He got indignant and said u can’t say that But I’m saying it again9:36 PM Jul 16th from TwitterFon

There are A-listers beating down the door to work with him. He will have plenty of good material to choose from.

Adam is in demand, and he doesn’t need that homophobe.

Well, while I don’t think Adam “needs” anybody, and I do think that guy came off toolish in the interview, I don’t think there is any guarantee that these A-listers will be the ones who give Adam the right song. That was my point. Its about more than just a good song, its a good song that vibes well with that artist, with that fits in with the overall direction of the album, that could play well on the pop charts. In a hurry. So there is no time to fuss around, its a situation where you have to take the best songs that fit you that can be found. So that’s why I think if Kevin whatshisname is the one to had over the perfect song, I can’t see Adam turning it down. They don’t have to be friends. Hell the songwriter doesn’t even have to be in the studio. But YMMV and all that.

Shit, damn!!! (Can I say that?) Last night I told myself I would not log in here, nor would I read anything AI. Dammit, I cannot stay away. I need therapy. I’m a bad example to Adam who says he never lies. I am now lying to my hubs about what I am doing. Dammit, dammit, dammit. I need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jpfan
September 5, 2009 at 4:49 pm
I don’t know what’s funnier ‘“ the fart on the bus timeline or the fact that it has to be proven that short men can be successful and talented.

Okay the fart timeline is funnier. Gee no comments that Danny is a hairy beast (at least Kris thinks so in that video).

I go with the fart timeline too.Any hardcore adam fan knows adam shit doesn’t stink how could his fart.

Maybe I should go check out Alison Porter tonight. It should be fun.

I said to adamlambert last week that his let’s dance is better than Bowie.He got indignant and said u can’t say that But I’m saying it again9:36 PM Jul 16th from TwitterFon

When Rushfeld says something like that to Adam, why is it that he does not like him?

Speaking of Alisan Porter and a little guy with a big talent (Elliott Yamin),
they’ll be performing tonight in Los Angeles

Hotel Cafe (Hollywood, CA) – Ely Rise Presents “Creepshow 4″, 10pm-Close, With, Lou Dawson 10pm, Elle King 1030pm, Alisan Porter 11pm, Ely Rise Midnight, With Special Guests: Elliot Yamin, The Last Goodnight, Jarvis Church, Brandon Rogers, Kinna Grannis and More!,

I also really like Alisan, I think she is great. I don’t know why she isn’t signed, at least to an indie label.

Isn’t one of the running themes in here today that talent doesn’t equal being signed to a major label?

steve
September 5, 2009 at 4:51 pm

jpfan
September 5, 2009 at 4:49 pm
I don't know what's funnier '“ the fart on the bus timeline or the fact that it has to be proven that short men can be successful and talented.

I go with the fart timeline too.Any hardcore adam fan knows adam shit doesn't stink how could his fart.


Ummm, no, Adam’s shit and fart stink. But I am so hardcore that he can shit and fart in front of me and I won’t even budge but suck it up and smile. I love Adam, even his shit and fart.

Although Adam likely doesn’t have final say on which songs make the album, I suspect if he was truly upset about this Griffin guy that RCA would skip the song unless it was the best thing since sliced bread (not too likely). Yes, Adam is under contract, but they don’t really want him unhappy. Particular if he does as well as they hope – when it comes time for the next contract they don’t want him remembering stuff like this.

Just to mash two threads together, Fall Out Boy do a pretty straight up, rocking cover of “Beat It”, which could be an indication of how Allison could have rocked it.

I agree with… someone — Paula? Michael Slezak? — though, who said it’s more of a dancer’s song than a singer’s song. AI seems to favor long, extended phrasing (runs optional) and there’s no opportunity for that in this song, which is why it came back to bite poor Anoop so hard, I think.

As for Adam and Fall Out Boy and uh, Kylie Minogue? Er, okay.

I wonder why no one brings up Scissor Sisters when they talk about the kind of music Adam should/will do? And no, not just because the lead singer uses a lot of falsetto or because a fair number of the band members are gay, but because they make really fun, high energy dance/pop music. They’re fantastic live.

In conclusion, “Avalanche” is my favorite song on DCTR. I’d rather not have known DC’s co-writer is an ass, but it won’t change how I feel about the song. I wish David & band would start playing it again.

Agree!

I love your avatar, Chipmunk

Why thank ya!

Isn’t one of the running themes in here today that talent doesn’t equal being signed to a major label?

Maybe, I am wondering if she is not commercial enough. I don’t know, I think she sings great, she looks good and she also write good songs. She seems like a good performer. No idea what the missing link is.

I hope his friend Alison Porter makes it. She is one talented girl. To me, she is the female version of Adam. Beautiful vocals and incredible range. She can also dance. You can see why Adam never made it w/o American Idol. Alison has been in the biz longer than Adam, and she is still a virtual unknown. I think Adam is very generous to give a shout-out to his friends. He could be selfish and think ‘me, me, me’ .

I love that about him too, he knows every bit of publicity can help.

The fact that peeps have enough info and care enough to have a timeline about farts on a tour bus? Only in the AI fandom. haha

When Rushfeld says something like that to Adam, why is it that he does not like him?

Rushfield does like Adam, he’s said that Adam was his favourite, but that he still thinks Kris should have won and his winning was the right thing for the show. We discussed this in ad nauseum before. And how about Brian Mansfield didn’t like Kris, was supposedly some secret Adam fan who hated/dissed Kris by pointing out (rightly) that NoBo not only sucked, but had the ability to suck the energy out of huge arenas with it’s suckiness. Which is funny to think he was an Adam fan considering that Brian has since wrote a blog item saying that Adam really does dislike all his fans and is fake, yadda.

So larger point being, things are not always what they seem to the stans. I say this as an overly sensitive stan of course. Hence my lingering grrrr feeling towards Brian Mansfield.

MollyAnnMay
I wonder why no one brings up Scissor Sisters when they talk about the kind of music Adam should/will do?

Not commercial enough? At least people know who Fall Out Boy and Kylie Minogue are.

Which time zone is Indianapolis in? Ya, I guess I could do a search!
ETA: Just checked, it’s Eastern.

I wish a reporter or fan would ask Adam about what is going on with MW and FlashForward. Or maybe we’ll just have to wait until 9/24/09 to find out.

@Q3 I had lunch last weekend with one of my friends who works on FlashForward in editing and she couldn’t give me an answer. She thinks they are being tight lipped on just about every aspect of this show to keep interest heightened.

hope his friend Alison Porter makes it. She is one talented girl. To me, she is the female version of Adam. Beautiful vocals and incredible range. She can also dance. You can see why Adam never made it w/o American Idol. Alison has been in the biz longer than Adam, and she is still a virtual unknown. I think Adam is very generous to give a shout-out to his friends. He could be selfish and think ‘me, me, me’ .

I love that about him too, he knows every bit of publicity can help.

Is this a first? That an AI finalist helps publicize their friends. I hope Adam keeps this up, because next time I’m in LA, I would love to see any of his friends perform. I love Adam so much for his huge heart.

As for that Kevin Griffin guy, the fact that he would describe Adam’s AI performances’ style as “cross dressing Cher” indicates to me that his judgments of Adam’s musical style are very off. And that therefore Adam’s new album will not be like “Fall Out Boy and Kylie with mascara”… although I don’t have a problem with any of these three things.

If somehow he ends up writing one of the best songs submitted to Adam for his album, then Adam should sing it. But I doubt that will happen, just looking at his past work. Adam is working with many, many songwriters who are better than Kevin Griffin.

I want to see Cassidy. Cheeks is cool but his music isn’t something I can listen to on a regular bases.

so kevin is working with both allison and adam…

I know Rudolf and Allison have already worked a lot together…

but from that madison review:

“she wears the skin”..WTF..

Maybe Kevin Griffith should go to the AI concert and check out what these guys actually sing.

@Q3 I had lunch last weekend with one of my friends who works on FlashForward in editing and she couldn’t give me an answer. She thinks they are being tight lipped on just about every aspect of this show to keep interest heightened.

My best guess is that since Adam has been the industry buzz since BoW, they will use Mad World on the show. It is difficult to have a successful show on TV (I know because so many of my faves have been cancelled). Any help they can get, they will use, down to a song associated with ADAM LAMBERT. Yes, he has Hollywood buzz (remember five or six months ago?), and with all the glowing reviews from this tour, it hasn’t ended.

cilady:

Not commercial enough? At least people know who Fall Out Boy and Kylie Minogue are.

Hmm. Could be. This is where I’m hampered by getting new music from everywhere except mainstream radio, I guess. I had no idea Scissor Sisters weren’t a commercial hit in the US.

People are missing out, IMO. *g*

adamland: I had lunch last weekend with one of my friends who works on FlashForward in editing and she couldn’t give me an answer. She thinks they are being tight lipped on just about every aspect of this show to keep interest heightened.

Thanks, adamland. And I think your friend is right — it makes a lot of sense.

HI PPL!!!! I’m back.I was belong my brother fix his hair and he’s pike what are u doing? are u making it like Adam lambert?! Ummmmmm….no

He’s 7.fml. yay! the barbecue party thing has been moved to 2 Moreow so I’ll be here 4 the concert. I FLOVE Adam’s twitter party.hate that I slept through it. gr8 questions.his fave nine inch nails song is closer.u guys were talking about that the other day.i. Couldn’t get through the whole thing.hahaim too innocent lol,. the thread is long today.I don’t think I’ll read
it.personally I’m tired of Richard rushfield and brian Mansfield and debating their opinions.if they don’t like someone good 4 them:/ CONCERT 2 NITE!!!!!!!!!!!!! 81(?) DAYS TILL THE ALBUM DROPS!!!!!!!!!!!!

HELP!!!!!!( wow I’m pathethic:/) BEST SOUND QUALITY AND/ OR VIDEO QUALITY ADAM TOUR VIDEOS WANTED!!!! I can’t wait.I need them on my iPod now.thank god 4 YouTube. Thnx inbadvance!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!

THE TWITTER PARTY WAS RIDICULOUSLY AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmm. Could be. This is where I’m hampered by getting new music from everywhere except mainstream radio, I guess. I had no idea Scissor Sisters weren’t a commercial hit in the US.

People are missing out, IMO. *g*

I agree, and I was pissed I missed them in concert.

Personally I flove fall out boy.one of my faves.just sayin’

@Q3 I had lunch last weekend with one of my friends who works on FlashForward in editing and she couldn’t give me an answer. She thinks they are being tight lipped on just about every aspect of this show to keep interest heightened.

We DO need to get together, adamland. They are promoting the HELL out of this show. I was at an employee retreat to Del Mar racetrack about a week ago and we all took the train from Orange County. At the station, there were signs for “Flash Forward” EVERYWHERE.

And I’m not just rooting for it for Adam, as I mentioned before, I went to college with the creator ‘“ four years of classes together, with a graduating class of 12. I curse myself for losing touch with him (maybe I’d have some scoop), but pretty tough to suck up now that he’s so successful. BTW, he narrates a “making of” video that has been floating around … I’ve aged better.

That whole incident was so juvenile and idiotic that I feel like I’d have to regress to the age of 7 to comment on it. Watch for them to trend #adamsmotherfarted next and change the group song to ‘Jingle bells. Batman smells. Robin laid an egg’ ¦’ . Or maybe the classic ‘Abraham Lincoln, whatcha been drinkin? Is it water, is it wine? Oh my God it’s turpentine.’ 

Don’t forget that old classic: “Whistle while you work, Hitler is a jerk. Mussolini hurt his weinie, now it doesn’t work.” (I’m an old classic, too.)

Hi Luv, I feel you, BB. I slept through the twitter party too. Check out Suz’s videos from last night on the concert thread. They’re outrageous.

Adam looks like he’s headed back to LA ‘” tonight:

I thought that at first glance too, Q3, but he says, “Go see …” not “Going to see.” He’s encouraging others to check it out.

I couldn’t figure that out at first. They are in Indy tonight and have a concert tomorrow, right?

ETA: Oh, this is funny. This Why the Trend site I follow, which explains why anything is trending, STILL has two Adam trends as examples of hot trends for the week at the top. (They only list about six or seven.) http://www.whatthetrend.com/trend/Melanie+Oudin

On “covers”…. Is every version affer an orignal a cover? Why are they not just different versions/artists. Someone explain.

Thanks, Susan M. Yes, I misread it. Then I realize it was already discussed above — and just deleted it. LOL at myself!

I know Adam is a Glittery Alien but I doubt he has mastered the time-space continuum yet.

Q3 I font think he’s going to la.isn’t there a concert tonight and 2 morrow ? Idk. THANKS SUEBRODY!!!!!!!!! thanks again 4 the avatar help btw:)

alison8701:

Honestly, it’s just cool to hate Fall Out Boy. But they’re really not whiney or emo or anything. people haven’t gotten pretty snobby about music lately.

Meanwhile, over here in the terminally uncool corner, not only has no one heard of Scissor Sisters*, but I now find out it’s cool to hate Fall Out Boy.

Heh. I love FOB. I love their energy and I *really* love the lead singer’s voice. Their songs make absolutely no sense lyrically most of the time, but since you can rarely hear the lyrics over the amps dialed up to 11, it doesn’t really matter. They’re just a fun band. I guess fun isn’t cool either anymore…

Ob topic: They do not make the kind of music that would suit Adam, I think, but I wouldn’t mind hearing Allison take a crack at it. She could bounce all over the stage and have a blast.

*ETA: Oops, okay, Squirrely has not only heard of, but likes, Scissor Sisters. I feel all validated and stuff now!

ETA2: Thanks for the link to the “What a Catch, Donnie” video, alison8701. I love the song but hadn’t seen the video before. It’s cute.

Never mind.LOL q3- YET

I know Adam is a Glittery Alien but I doubt he has mastered the time-space continuum yet.

Only a matter of time …

dietcoke: Maybe I should go check out Alison Porter tonight. It should be fun.

Please do! I have her “End song” on endless repeat and I would love to hear from someone who heard her live.

Is this thread worth reading? I doubt it when one of the topics is Adam farts.DUHeveryone knows glittery aliens fart glitter I thought the whole thing was hilarious btw.but seriously anybthing worth reading ? if not I’d rather browse YouTube…..

And I’m not just rooting for it for Adam, as I mentioned before, I went to college with the creator ‘“ four years of classes together, with a graduating class of 12. I curse myself for losing touch with him (maybe I’d have some scoop), but pretty tough to suck up now that he’s so successful. BTW, he narrates a ‘making of’  video that has been floating around ‘ ¦ I’ve aged better.

I know I would not have paid any attention to this show had it not been for Adam’s Mad World. How many people are in the same boat. AI had ~ 25 mil viewers every week? How many of those were Adam fans. I would venture on the low side of 2 mil. Take just those AI fans, their signficant others, relatives and friends. It’s like coming from AI, a ready-made fanbase. On top of that, “Mad World” is perfect for the show and moreso, Adam’s version is so eeerily beautiful.

“dietcoke: Maybe I should go check out Alison Porter tonight. It should be fun”

Go and stay for Elliott’s set. If possible, kick his ass because he should be out promoting his album/single not doing special guest gigs

luv- are you interested in Kris’ height. Read on.

thanks jpfan eh.I’ll read it…. shit. I still have to do required reading 4 school. I wonder if this counts….

Hi everyone, it’s been a real life kinda day.

I just read the review and OMG at this quote:

His shot up Led Zeppelin’s “Whole Lotta Love” with enough thrusting and theatricality to fill up two Alliant Energy Centers. It was flat-out better than the original (and I’ll stand by that sacrilegious statement).

Someone who’s not a fantard finally said it. Happy

From Twitter

Reading @thedavidcook and @krisallen4real ‘s tweets, I realized today’s Razorback/Mizzou game is also a rivalry of Idol winners seasons 7/8!
half a minute ago from TwitterBerry

Kris may be late for his set tonight if the Arkansas/ Missouri football game is close.

Heh. I love FOB. I love their energy and I *really* love the lead singer’s voice. Their songs make absolutely no sense lyrically most of the time, but since you can rarely hear the lyrics over the amps dialed up to 11, it doesn’t really matter. They’re just a fun band. I guess fun isn’t cool either anymore’ ¦

I really like Patrick’s voice too. It’s so pretty. Not so great live, but eh, I can deal.

have you heard patrick doing Akon’s Dont Matter/R. Kelly’s Ignition?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvCWa8EHyaQ

I love it. There’s just something about white boys doing hip hop songs and rapping that is just. good. music. (see Kris Allen doing Heartless)

Susan M.
September 5, 2009 at 5:25 pm

@Q3 I had lunch last weekend with one of my friends who works on FlashForward in editing and she couldn’t give me an answer. She thinks they are being tight lipped on just about every aspect of this show to keep interest heightened.

We DO need to get together, adamland. They are promoting the HELL out of this show. I was at an employee retreat to Del Mar racetrack about a week ago and we all took the train from Orange County. At the station, there were signs for ‘Flash Forward’  EVERYWHERE.

And I’m not just rooting for it for Adam, as I mentioned before, I went to college with the creator ‘“ four years of classes together, with a graduating class of 12. I curse myself for losing touch with him (maybe I’d have some scoop), but pretty tough to suck up now that he’s so successful. BTW, he narrates a ‘making of’  video that has been floating around ‘ ¦ I’ve aged better.

Susan we really do need to get together! Hope we get tickets the nights that Adam does promotion! Thanks again for doing that. Hopefully Flash Forward takes off, my friend also edited for Harper’s Island but it just wasn’t my cuppa so I really wasn’t up for “promoting” it. She understood.

I have a friend who created the vampire show that was on in the 2007-2008 season “Moonlight” (CBS). He is still the same guy he was before and is still so sweet and funny.

ETA: put in wrong year 2007-2008.

ImMattGiraudSo my LIFE is made. I was the biggest Garfield fan as a kid and still am. And today, I got this!Thanks Jim Davis!! http://twitpic.com/gmdxt

Matt tweet.

I know I would not have paid any attention to this show had it not been for Adam’s Mad World.

Well, this is ABC’s obvious Fall baby. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the aggressive promotion for a series like they are doing for this. They are promoting it WAY more than any other fall show on any network.

ABC expects it to be LOST 2. Yes, AI has the highest ratings, but many other prime time hits come close. Regardless, they are taking this series and its promotion SERIOUSLY and putting BANK behind it. The selection of this song was no accident.

Kris may be late for his set tonight if the Arkansas/ Missouri football game is close.

Illinois is playing Mizzou right now. The Hawgs play MO State tonight.

ETA:

Susan M.

Well, this is ABC’s obvious Fall baby. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the aggressive promotion for a series like they are doing for this. They are promoting it WAY more than any other fall show on any network.

ABC expects it to be LOST 2. Yes, AI has the highest ratings, but many other prime time hits come close. Regardless, they are taking this series and its promotion SERIOUSLY and putting BANK behind it. The selection of this song was no accident.

ABC has loved this show from the first concept meeting. It has been their#1 priority for the fall schedule for a long time. If it takes off (timeslot may be a problem) and Adam’s song is used in the series, it could be very good for him.

hanks jpfan eh.I’ll read it’ ¦. shit. I still have to do required reading 4 school. I wonder if this counts’ ¦.

You sound like my son… always looking for the loophole.

pjd
September 5, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Although Adam likely doesn’t have final say on which songs make the album, I suspect if he was truly upset about this Griffin guy that RCA would skip the song unless it was the best thing since sliced bread (not too likely). Yes, Adam is under contract, but they don’t really want him unhappy. Particular if he does as well as they hope ‘“ when it comes time for the next contract they don’t want him remembering stuff like this.

I agree with this. Haven’t TPTB been pretty respectful of Adam’s choices so far? Adam himself has said so. And– working with people you don’t like is a reality of all workplaces, not just show business. But where it crosses the line, I think, is when the behavior veers into racism, homophobia, sexism, etc. Then anyone has the right to say no, I do not have to put up with this.

Someone who’s not a fantard finally said it. Happy

I know, it’s great. I have taken heat from a couple of friend who are Led Zep/Plant lovers for stating the same.

‘dietcoke: Maybe I should go check out Alison Porter tonight. It should be fun’ 

Go and stay for Elliott’s set. If possible, kick his ass because he should be out promoting his album/single not doing special guest gigs

If I lived in LA I would go with you.

On the 14th Joshua Lemming and Alex Band will be at the Hotel Cafe too.

edit: one more like this, and I PUT YOU IN MODERATION. I’M NOT RUNNING A FAN SITE

Here is Kevin Rudolph’s wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Rudolf

Seems like he’s had a lot of hits and worked with a lot of top artists. I think it’s cool he’s working with both Adam and Allison!

I am sick & tired of Adam. Sorry, that’s how I feel. He didn’t win me over during the competition & I’m fed up with the overkill after the competition. Seriously, I don’t think anyone has ever gone to a Broadway musical or a Vegas show because Adam is not unique whatsoever.

I’ve been to many Broadway shows, as well as local musical theatre shows. I’ve been to many Las Vegas shows, headliners and lounge acts. Yes, there are many, many talented singers out there. I’ve been to many local clubs and have seen many talented singers there. I would say I’ve seen many more talented singers than the nine of the ten idols. To me, Adam still stands out, no matter what venue I’ve been to.

Taylor Hicks taking part in a documentary called ‘The Back Nine’: A golfer turns 40 and decides to try to become a professional golfer.

Movie Trailers –

Taylor @ :42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j6GsL8QmLg

Taylor @ :55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Np0hNgwMKg

thanks readon:D heh Adam aloha I was kidding ( u probably kno that though ) actually we only have to read one book.I read waaay too much but I want to read another one.weird I kno.:) and to whoever said Adam isnt unique:great.thanks 4 sharing ur opinion.seriously.

Luv,
One can never read too much.

I am sick & tired of Adam. Sorry, that’s how I feel.

No need to be sorry. I can’t get enough of him. That’s how I feel and I’m not sorry.

have you heard patrick doing Akon’s Dont Matter/R. Kelly’s Ignition?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvCWa8EHyaQ

I hadn’t heard that, no. I like it! The part at the end with the riff on “I Got You Babe” is cute. Thanks for the link, Alison.

I love it. There’s just something about white boys doing hip hop songs and rapping that is just. good. music. (see Kris Allen doing Heartless)

I do hear the similarities to “Heartless.” I think it can get dicey pretty quickly when white singers cover hip hop (not that there isn’t precedent for this sort of thing, going back to Elvis), but I like it too (when it works). I love some hip hop when I’m in the mood for heavy beats and clever lyrics, but sometimes the beats are so similar they overwhelm whatever music is in there and the songs all start to sound alike to me. I had no idea what a good song “Heartless” was until I heard Kris’s take on it (and I *like* Kanye’s version, though I didn’t like the Fray’s at all).

Ob topic (again): this and the Kevin Griffin thing make me wonder about Allison’s and Kris’s albums all over again. It seems so inevitable that they’re going to get stuck with music that doesn’t suit them simply because there is a stable of proven hit makers — or at least fast, facile song writers — that 19 can count on to move product, and that won’t ever allow these singers to be as creative and interesting (and fun!) as say, Patrick and FOB can be, or how Allison and Kris showed themselves to be on the show. *sigh*

Kevin Griffin, like him or not, is so not a homophobe. He co-wrote Missy Higgins’s biggest hit, “Scar,” which is about dealing with bisexuality.

Just because Griffin didn’t buy into Adam’s shtick on Idol doesn’t mean he’s a homophobe. I loved Adam on Idol, but a lot of my friends, gay and straight, found his style overly-theatrical and completely unappealing. He’s not going to please everybody; he needs only to please himself and the folks signing his paychecks.

Adam and Kevin Griffin don’t have to be in love with each other to write a good song together. Or Adam can just pass on working with him if he so chooses. It doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Adam lovers, however, might want to reconsider antagonizing the fans of a lot of other popular artists. Trashing Kevin Griffin (Better Than Ezra fans are quite loyal) and FOB, proclaiming that Adam can sing Plant better than Plant himself, etc., is not going to help Adam in the real world, IMHO. YMMV, obviously.

Kevin Griffin, like him or not, is so not a homophobe. He co-wrote Missy Higgins’s biggest hit, ‘Scar,’  which is about dealing with bisexuality.

And people can’t waffle between opinions? Or be hypocritical? I’m sorry, I don’t buy this kind of argument at all. To me it’s the classic “my friend is black” argument. And no, I don’t think that his comment about Adam meant he was a homophobe, but I can absolutely see how those comments could come off as homophobic to some people. That’s an absolutely valid opinion.

And it does not matter at all in the real world whether Adam fans trash Better Than Ezra or FOB. In the real world, fans of all sorts of artists trash other artists all the time. In the real world, people aren’t invested enough to track down what fans of other artists say about their favorite artist on the internet.

I think we internet fans far overestimate our importance in the scheme of things…

Ob topic: They do not make the kind of music that would suit Adam, I think, but I wouldn’t mind hearing Allison take a crack at it. She could bounce all over the stage and have a blast.

Now that would make sense. Fall Out Boy stuff could totally fit Allison. I don’t see that as Adam’s vibe at all. And no that’s not a diss to anybody. It’s just how I see it.

Ditto on the no Scissor Sisters. Not that they are bad. But TPTB are gonna stick to sounds that hit on the US pop charts. Then again, they are trying to market him internationally so I could see them sticking a track or two like that on there. Hmmm…

It seems so inevitable that they’re going to get stuck with music that doesn’t suit them simply because there is a stable of proven hit makers ‘” or at least fast, facile song writers ‘” that 19 can count on to move product, and that won’t ever allow these singers to be as creative and interesting (and fun!)

Well its not set in stone that will happen to anybody. It is tough to put your own stamp on things this way for sure, but if you are the kind of singer that does not come off as generic you can pull something off. There’s luck involved too for sure. I think they can at least get a few good songs in a piece.

Kevin Griffin is total douche, simple as that. If he’s so great, why does he want to write for some cross dressing vegas act? Yeah, I’m sure his loyal fans would be so proud of him.

tinawina

Ditto on the no Scissor Sisters. Not that they are bad. But TPTB are gonna stick to sounds that hit on the US pop charts. Then again, they are trying to market him internationally so I could see them sticking a track or two like that on there. Hmmm’ ¦

I think you’re probably right about TPTB — I was just hoping someone out there — maybe even Adam himself — had heard some of their music and gotten an idea of their vibe and realized that he could probably do a bit of a rocked up version of similar type songs that would be both fun and popular.

As for international marketing, I don’t think anyone thinking in that direction should overlook the fact that the (very enthusiastic) comments on the Scissor Sisters’ youtube videos are in several different languages…

but if you are the kind of singer that does not come off as generic you can pull something off.

Very true. IMO Allison is not generic at all — at least, not in this century *g* — and Kris… I can see why people try to make the case that he is, but for me, he’s got something (musically) that makes me pay attention. I wish I knew how to describe it.

There’s luck involved too for sure.

Oh heck yes. Also very true.

I’ve been to many Broadway shows, as well as local musical theatre shows. I’ve been to many Las Vegas shows, headliners and lounge acts. Yes, there are many, many talented singers out there. I’ve been to many local clubs and have seen many talented singers there. I would say I’ve seen many more talented singers than the nine of the ten idols. To me, Adam still stands out, no matter what venue I’ve been to.

ITA. I’ve also been to a lot of shows, and I’d consider myself pretty eclectic in terms of the style of theater, music, movies, dance, etc. that I love. And Adam is really really unique and special. Then again, there are a lot of special people out there, and a lot of talent. But Adam can still standout from the crowd, of that I have no doubt.

Though I can understand the feeling that you’re sick of him and think it’s overkill. I felt that at the beginning of the season – that he was too much. Then I discovered that I just wanted more and more of him

And it does not matter at all in the real world whether Adam fans trash Better Than Ezra or FOB.

^^
Ask the Claymates. It depends if the Adam fans go around and start spamming other artist sites and attacking other bands for alleged homophobic comments. Not sure when KG became a homophobe. *shakes head* Also, in the real world, this could affect or have an impact on what bands/artists might want to tour with Adam. If the fanbases hate eachother, it could get really ugly. So yes, it could escalate into the real world.

I’m sorry, I don’t buy this argument at all. And no, I don’t think that his comment about Adam meant he was a homophobe, but I can absolutely see how those comments would come off as homophobic to some people. That is an absolutely valid opinion. (And the only comment I read to that effect on this blog was not by an Adam fan.)

Thank you, Sherena (I flove your avatar, btw, I have a thing for orbs. Don’t know why). You’re right. Someone could be the most progressive person in the world, but when another person (who is apparently established in the music business) tells a fellow entertainer to “go back to being a cross-dressing Cher impersonator,” ummmm, that’s indefensible in my book.

Not that I’m dissing cross-dressing Cher impersonators, it just has NOTHING to do with Adam and to make that leap is patently cliche ‘“ and yes, I agree with adamaloha ‘“  homophobic beyond belief. Truly, the comment is pathetic and insulting and he deserves to be called on it.

Better to just say, “He was trying to be funny.”

I am sick & tired of Adam. Sorry, that’s how I feel. He didn’t win me over during the competition & I’m fed up with the overkill after the competition. Seriously, I don’t think anyone has ever gone to a Broadway musical or a Vegas show because Adam is not unique whatsoever.

No doubt that Adam is not to everyone’s taste. And I have read similar comments before, but I’ve seen a lot of Broadway and London shows, and many of the big Vegas shows, and nveer seen anyone quite like Adam.

Since I really enjoy Adam live, I would love to know who else does a live show that is similar to Adam — the combination of vocal talent, commanding stage presense, emotional connection with the audience and honest sexualty is unique in my experience. So please, who are these Broadway and Vegas performers who are as good as Adam?

Trashing Kevin Griffin (Better Than Ezra fans are quite loyal)

If his fans are loyal they already dislike Adam as a performer, because Kevin does.

Examiner article weighing in on Adam’s Twitter usage

http://www.examiner.com/x-13143-West-Palm-Beach-Television-Examiner~y2009m9d4-Adam-Lambert-promotes-fellow-artists-via-Twitter

And it does not matter at all in the real world whether Adam fans trash Better Than Ezra or FOB.

^^
Ask the Claymates. It depends if the Adam fans go around and start spamming other artist sites and attacking other bands for alleged homophobic comments. Not sure when KG became a homophobe. *shakes head* Also, in the real world, this could affect or have an impact on what bands/artists might want to tour with Adam. If the fanbases hate eachother, it could get really ugly. So yes, it could escalate into the real world.

100% not if its when they do that.Hell people doing 1000 word post on why adam didn’t fart LMAO its only time for trashing other artist start.

I would have loved to go see Alisan Porter tonight, but I’m stuck here at work until at least 11 pm

I flove your avatar, btw, I have a thing for orbs. Don’t know why

Oh yay! I love them too. I love glittery, glowy things. Hmm this might explain why I love Adam.

Ask the Claymates.

I don’t think Clay’s career deteriorated because people hated the Claymates. I didn’t watch American Idol before this season, and I didn’t even know they existed. Maybe heard the name once. I never checked out Clay’s music because I never heard it on the radio or was recommended it, plain and simple.

It comes down to the music in the end, really (plus label backing and promotion, but that’s a given). There are successful artists with extremely obnoxious fans.

The selection of this song was no accident.

Right as ever, Susan. Marketing courtesans/companions * advisors don’t have to be blinded by the glitter to smell potential. There is also a giant built-in base for SciFi shows. With all kinds of blogs way out ahead of any filmed entry into the realm. But they will turn on a dime if something stinks (Like when Heroes lost all its senses) It’s the add-on from that base makes a hit. Every inch counts. Adams an add-on. Sci-Fi fans are also a literary crowd, standards are high. However ABC is notorious for screwing up audience exposure. Moving it around. Taking off for a week. Killing by the third show. Again, need as much tune-in as possible two weeks in a row. (That’s why they probably asked if there were any naked versions of Adam singing the track to feature on a TV in the background.)

What I don’t know is the food chain of approvals that allowed Fast Forward to use an AI studio track featuring Adam Lambert. Don’t know who owns what there. Or if Adam actually owned “himself”. Or if it’s just for promo’s not actual series.

Of course, there will be some irony if FastForward featuring Adam Lambert in the title track lasts longer than “Life on Mars”. (A not bad show where Jason O’Mara was not allowed to sizzle as much as he can. Not that I notice that kind of thing.)

*feeble Firefly- esque cleaning up of where others might have used a “w” word.

*feeble Firefly- esque cleaning up of where others might have used a ‘w’  word.

Ha! A Firefly reference! I know there were tons of reasons I loved reading your comments FifthHouseSun!

Steve: 100% not if its when they do that.Hell people doing 1000 word post on why adam didn’t fart LMAO its only time for trashing other artist start.

6 Idols (not Adam) acted together to instigate a trend as a prank. Why isn’t over 20 tweets by 6 Idols designed to instigate a trend, a trend that lasted for 7 hours, plus an MTV piece and several other online articles about the subject, newsworthy?

Since I really enjoy Adam live, I would love to know who else does a live show that is similar to Adam ‘” the combination of vocal talent, commanding stage presense, emotional connection with the audience and honest sexualty is unique in my experience. So please, who are these Broadway and Vegas performers who are as good as Adam?

This, totally. I mean, where have we all been that none of the music/theater/pop culture reviewers in nearly 50 states (not to mention the 8,000 to 10,000 attendees at each venue) never managed to see a live Broadway or Vegas performance before?

Call me crazy, but I’ve seen many. I’ve also been close friends with several entertainers trying to make it in the business, including many who have, large.

I’m the type who is moved to tears at the opening of a well-produced professional theater production and I can tell you ‘“ IMHO ‘“ I have NEVER come across an artist like Adam. If you have, send the link. Would love to see them.

I had no idea Scissor Sisters weren’t a commercial hit in the US.

People are missing out, IMO. *g*

IA. That’s why I’m not so sure of Adam’s success in US go by his taste in music. I flove SS the first time I heard it, same with Mika. But none of them made big in US.

The fanwarring in this thread today has been totally UGH. DELETING COMMENTS NOW.

1. This isn’t a fan thread. PLEASE KNOCK OFF THE DEFENSIVE POSTS. If somebody doesn’t like your favorite, you are free to disagree but basically???

Get over it..

The questioning of posters motives, the defensivenss and the bickering is something I won’t tolerate.

MJ about every other time i add a smiley to my post.It knocks out the whole post ?

I’m the type who is moved to tears at the opening of a well-produced professional theater production and I can tell you ‘“ IMHO ‘“ I have NEVER come across an artist like Adam. If you have, send the link. Would love to see them.

People should never underestimate the way AI works to give people a connections to the contestant, which would never exist if you just see them in a normal performance.
The way they can present themself week after week is nothing you take out of the picture, when compare them to other artists.

People should never underestimate the way AI works to give people a connections to the contestant, which would never exist if you just see them in a normal performance.

The way they can present themself week after week is nothing you take out of the picture, when compare them to other artists.

Totally true. And that’s why it was so savvy for Adam to go for it. Believe me, I am not bemused by the pageantry that is AI. I have only scoffed and scorned it before. And here I am, a total AI obsessive, a year later. So funny that “Rock of Ages” is such a hit. I lived it. I worked on the Sunset Strip in the ’80s (could tell STORIES).

Go figure.

I can only tell you this: I have always been ambivalent about AI. I have largely been ambivalent about the music industry in general.

I saw Adam on some random day and my life changed. Ridiculous? Perhaps. But true nonetheless.

I really like some of fall out boy’s singles but don’t think Adam can pull off their style. Pete does look like could be an aspiration for Adam, same as Bill from Tokio Hotel.

I don’t think Adam is trying to emulate FOB or Tokio Hotel, and I agree it will be a big mistake if Adam tries to lift his style from either of them.

In fact, if Adam’s album is perceived as “karaoke” anybody, I think it he will be criticized by a lot of critics and Adam fans — with justification. He doesn’t need to invent a new genre, he just needs to be recognizable as Adam Lambert. IMO Kelly, Carrie and a few other Idol alums have achieved this. Others, have been less successful making the transition from Idol to the real music world — Taylor Hicks, for example, never seemed to develop his own artistic style. I saw him in concert recently and he was pretty good, but it still seemed like he was a tribute artist.

Im going to cry if Adam’s album sounds anything like Fall out Boy or Kylie.

Ha! I never knew that, Glen Hansard, who starred in Once and co-wrote Falling Slowly which won an Oscar and which Kris later sang on AI appeared in the movie, The Commitments! I’m watching the latter film right now — great film — and I thought he looked so familiar!

Weak AI tie-in, but I just had to mention it.

There is a different link for tonight’s AdamCast concert cellcast tonight. Here it is:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/adam-cast1

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In fact, if Adam’s album is perceived as ‘karaoke’  anybody, I think it he will be criticized by a lot of critics and Adam fans ‘” with justification. He doesn’t need to invent a new genre, he just needs to be recognizable as Adam Lambert.

I agree, which is why the thread a few days ago talking up Adam singing with Queen — and not just singing with them, but re-recording all the old Queen classics — was odd to me.

I get that new artists have to be compared to known artists for marketing reasons — if I hear someone is the next… oh, let’s say Beatles — I will most likely check them out. But it’s up to the artist (and very much also, in the case of AI singers, their management) if they are going to be a pale imitation or something new and different and creative in their own right.

The latter could lead to great success. For the former, well, if we’re talking “New Beatles,” see Oasis. (Yes, they were fantastically successful for a while. But not over the long term.)

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Ha! I never knew that, Glen Hansard, who starred in Once and co-wrote Falling Slowly which won an Oscar and which Kris later sang on AI appeared in the movie, The Commitments!

Heh, Sassykatz, that is one of my favorite things about Glen Hansard’s career — that he just kept plugging away at music and film, doing his thing and working his ass off (sound familiar?) and it all came together for him *years* after he had his first break.

If you’re not familiar with what he did in the interim — his work with the Frames — check them out. They are awesome.

Just to mash two threads together, Fall Out Boy do a pretty straight up, rocking cover of ‘Beat It’ , which could be an indication of how Allison could have rocked it.

Allison? Allison who? You mean this isn’t the Adam Lambert appreciation thread? Thanks for the link, it actually sounds pretty good as a harder rock song.

*feeble Firefly- esque cleaning up of where others might have used a ‘w’  word.

Shiny…

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Just because Griffin didn’t buy into Adam’s shtick on Idol doesn’t mean he’s a homophobe. I loved Adam on Idol, but a lot of my friends, gay and straight, found his style overly-theatrical and completely unappealing.

Why does being overly-theatrical make him a “cross dressing Cher impersonator” ??? This has nothing to do with liking Adam or not liking Adam or his singing. People like Kevin Griffin can’t negatively critique him without calling him a drag queen or a cross dresser or any other code word for ‘effeminate’ , which in their minds is tantamount to ‘bad.’  It’s a sign of the homophobic undertones that still dominate our society.

I am sick & tired of Adam. Sorry, that’s how I feel. He didn’t win me over during the competition & I’m fed up with the overkill after the competition. Seriously, I don’t think anyone has ever gone to a Broadway musical or a Vegas show because Adam is not unique whatsoever.

It is certainly within your right to like or not like Adam, or to want to hear anything about him! But, I make my living in the theatre and I still find Adam to be very unique, as do his fellow cast members. The folks in Wicked have raved about his talents, as did cast mates from Hair. If you are a theatre-goer, perhaps you missed Broadway.com’s article about Adam in which many of his former castmates went into detail as to why they were in awe of his gifts. Many performers may have the range, or the stage presence or the good looks or the chameleon-like ability to interpret so many styles and songs in a totally organic way BUT very, very few have all of these gifts wrapped up into one compelling package. Now, if he can only find good material to tie up the package he will be all set.

Earlier Susan M posted this :
…”Totally true. And that’s why it was so savvy for Adam to go for it. Believe me, I am not bemused by the pageantry that is AI. I have only scoffed and scorned it before. And here I am, a total AI obsessive, a year later…Go figure.I can only tell you this: I have always been ambivalent about AI. I have largely been ambivalent about the music industry in general.I saw Adam on some random day and my life changed. Ridiculous? Perhaps. But true nonetheless.”

Well, it struck me that if you substituted ‘David Cook’ for ‘Adam’, what she wrote could well have been me. That was me – ambivalent about AI, until I happened to catch an episode with an extemely likable, talented, attractive singer (Cookie!) on some random day in Season 7, and my life changed.

Am a Kris fan more than an Adam one but even I well admit that I thank he has something very special going on and beleive his going to make it big. Kris is just more my type of singer. And am glad his getting such great review’s.

From blahblah95 (seems to be with Better than Ezra):

In Venice CA, recording vocals (not mine) for an Adam Lambert pitch. Sounding good!
about 2 hours ago from Tweetie

That was me ‘“ ambivalent about AI, until I happened to catch an episode with an extemely likable, talented, attractive singer (Cookie!) on some random day in Season 7, and my life changed.

That was me too. I couldn’t watch AI before becasue I couldn’t stand Simon’s cruelty. My kids still make fun of me about how I hated AI before and how I love AI winner David Cook now.

aga – u might enjoy this – just found this on YouTube. Before he starts “Light On” he announces it just went platinum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVGyy5jKfBc

Meanwhile, over here in the terminally uncool corner, not only has no one heard of Scissor Sisters*, but I now find out it’s cool to hate Fall Out Boy.

I’m late to this discussion, but I love the Scissor Sisters! I had no idea for the longest time that they weren’t super-famous here in the US because everyone in my circle during high school was crazy about them. Their lyrics are so clever and their music is really fun and interesting–the only thing I wouldn’t want for Adam is that the singers’ vocals really aren’t a focus of most of the songs.

I was just hoping someone out there ‘” maybe even Adam himself ‘” had heard some of their music and gotten an idea of their vibe

I don’t know what influences Adam will use on this particular album or what TPTB will let him use, but FWIW, Adam has mentioned Scissor Sisters as one of his favorite bands.

wellhesback, thank you so much for that link! I was so hoping someone had gotten the announcement on video. Dave sounds so Dave-like: humbled, thankful, trying not to get too mushy for fear Neal will thwap him. *g*

And I’ll join the chorus of those ambivalent about AI until discovering David Cook — except for “ambivalent” read “thoroughly indifferent” (with a side order of “really disliking what I’d seen of Simon” ::waves to aga::).

I’m so glad that liking DC so much got me inclined me to watch this year, so I could discover Allison.

isisdagmar, v. interesting that Adam has said Scissor Sisters is one of his favorite bands. I thought they’d be right up his alley, considering some of the other performers I’ve heard him mention, but I missed him saying that. Cool. : )

ETA: Oh, and PRMari you’re welcome. The FOB version is actually the only version of that song I like.

aga ‘“ u might enjoy this ‘“ just found this on YouTube. Before he starts ‘Light On’  he announces it just went platinum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVGyy5jKfBc

Finally!!!

Wow, is that the shakiest video in the West, or what?!

And, I would’ve never watched season 7 but for the TV writer’s strike. I had been off American Idol through season 6. I just thought that the two finalists were subpar in comparison to Melinda Doolittle, who I think is the best singer to ever come out of Idol. She never made a misstep.

Anyway, I DID begin watching AI again in 2008 and, at first, I was totally sucked into the pretty that was Luke Menard. I just voted for him to keep him on my screen, but after David’s “All Right Now” in the semis, I felt I was looking at a talent — in David — who so reminded me of the great rockers of my youth, that I was immediately taken. So, he had me BEFORE Hello. He has the potential to be one of those solid, all American rockers who last decades and become a touchstone, like Springsteen.

isisdagmar, v. interesting that Adam has said Scissor Sisters is one of his favorite bands. I thought they’d be right up his alley, considering some of the other performers I’ve heard him mention, but I missed him saying that. Cool. : )

I just remember that when the ontd_ai people were squealing over his myspace, Scissor Sisters was one of the bands he listed under “favorite artists.” He hasn’t mentioned them specifically, but that myspace went right up until he went on idol, so my guess is that what he said there still reflects his taste. And since I love them so much and they don’t get enough attention in the US, that made me very happy to see.

I’m late to this discussion, but I love the Scissor Sisters! I had no idea for the longest time that they weren’t super-famous here in the US because everyone in my circle during high school was crazy about them.

My even later weighing in, I love them too. Got hooked on their Filthy and Gorgeous, which is a totally rocking tune to dance and/or work-out to and I have this Blondie/Scissor Sister “Good Boys,” remix is another long time fave. And my older friend even liked their Comfortably Numb, which I wouldn’t think he would, because he is crazy about Pink Floyd and their version is very…not. But like AI the past few years, guess the magic was in the rearranging. So yeah if Kevin Gillette had been describing Adam’s upcoming album as having some Scissor Sister vibe to it, I would have totally got what he meant and been pretty happy musically. But worried commerically because inexplicably they aren’t that popular here, same as with Muse. America? disappoint.

My leading lady, Casey Carlson, was on ‘American Idol’ this last year. The song [Sad Song] is an anthemic breakup song, an anthem for the heartbroken.”

So, Blake Lewis picked TOP 36 finalist Casey Carlson as his Leading Lady? That goes to show you even getting into the TOP 32/36 can bring about opportunites. I remember liking Casey’s version of “Every Little Thing He Does Is Magic” (The Police).

Good luck to Blake!

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I think Adam should definitely include one track like the fun danceable pop songs of Scissors Sisters, makes for fun live performance like this one below -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdpFgmmtZPk

One thing I would like to see him do is something a bit more off-beat. So far what I’m hearing is just a bit on the conventional side, nothing wrong with that (and probably necessary), just need something unexpected, unusual or fun to jazz the album up a little.

One thing I would like to see him do is something a bit more off-beat.

I do think that TPTB are going to play it more mainstream on this first album (and as long as they let Adam be as melodic and beautiful and interesting as possible within those confines, I can understand that), but I’m hoping that the collaboration with Sam Sparro might yield something a bit offbeat.

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I also hope that Adam will have one song from Idol appear on the album.