Idol Headlines for 09/04/09

I personally would like to hear Danny sing Birthday Sex.

(Loving the smileys, BTW. Fun!)

I love Lyndsay’s interview with Blake. I also wonder about her article about the Idol sales. She is such an Adam fangirl. I fear that this will result in more fan wars, which is just what we need (not). She is honest in saying she really doesn’t know, but…*sigh* I would still prefer to play WHAT WILL ADAM, KRIS, and ALLISON’S FIRST SINGLE/ALBUM SOUND LIKE, but I think I’m going to be overruled on this one. Let the fighting begin!

That pic of Kellie Pickler in Rollingstone is probably the worst photo I have ever seen of her. Maybe it’s the hairstyle, maybe the lighting?

Another glam rocker from another planet with the ‘filthiest’ rock and roll band on Earth? Eh……’filthy’ is just nothing that I ever aspired to.

Leave it to Mr. “sex, drugs, and rock and roll” Jann Wenner’s mag, to think ‘filthy’ is the height of artistic expression.

My philosophy of rock is the anti-Wenner take. I have loved hard rock my entire life, without worshipping gratuitous sex or drugs.

Sorry for the rant, but that just pushed all of my ‘ick’ buttons.

That pic of Kellie Pickler in Rollingstone is probably the worst photo I have ever seen of her. Maybe it’s the hairstyle, maybe the lighting?

Another glam rocker from another planet with the ‘filthiest’ rock and roll band on Earth? Eh’ ¦’ ¦’filthy’ is just nothing that I ever aspired to.

Leave it to Mr. ‘sex, drugs, and rock and roll’  Jann Wenner’s mag, to think ‘filthy’ is the height of artistic expression.

I concur and who is that next to her – ewww

.Kris Allen same date with John Mayer don’t thing it is the best but who knows..

I concur and who is that next to her ‘“ ewww

He looks like a skinnier Perez. Gross.

‘We just clicked instantly, probably because we look like gorgeous blonde twins, both wearing 5-inch heels separated at birth and raised on different planets,’  Tranter tells RS.

The Allison Part 2 interview is great. The last part makes me all teary. It’s too early in the morning for tears. Luv you Allison.

Did you ever have a ‘Plan B’ ?

I’ve always wanted to be a vet. I love animals. Now, I would continue songwriting, if anything.

From Allison’s interview ^^ – I love knowing that about her. I thought about being a vet but I can’t stand the reptiles.

I listened to Carrie’s new single – sounded very pop to me. And very Carrie so I’m sure it will be a hit. There is this whole pop-country niche today and I think that is where Gokey will fall. I do not ‘do’ country but I do like a lot of these poppifed country songs – reminds me of the southern rock of my youth.

Blake tried to bring ‘sex’ to Idol? He brought a lot of things, but sexy was not one of them. JMHO of course.

Ugh. Rolling Stone made Kellie look like a total tramp.

I still think that releasing Kris’s album on the same day as Jason Castro’s and John Mayer’s is NOT a good idea, unless Kris opens for Mayer on tour (GOOD idea). I think Kris will get overshadowed, no matter how much press he gets. If you are going to pick *one* album to buy that day (or download), and you don’t know Idol (many do not), you will go for Mayer. On another week, you might try Jason and Kris’s out. If, say, you are into that softer rock sound, who’s would you buy? I don’t think that will happen with Adam, given who he’s up against. JMHO.

I don’t think John Mayer’s album will hurt Kris’s sales. If people want to buy Kris’s album they will, no matter what else is put out on the shelf that day. I’m not saying if Kris will do well or not. I think a lot depends on how his lead single will be received, but if he doesn’t do well I don’t think the problem will be the release date.

WTF, seriously? Kris, Jason Castro, AND John Mayer all on the same day in November? Is that right? I want all 3 of those albums, and I *may* be able to swing two that week, but not all 3.

However, I should point out that DC released last year on the same day as Nickelback and it didn’t hurt him too much. People may not have as much disposable money this year, but at that time people are already going to be buying Christmas presents. So I wouldn’t stress too much over it.

But, truth be told, personally? I will ALWAYS buy John Mayer’s album before anyone else’s who is released that day, no matter who it is. I love John Mayer sfm.

ETA: Just realized that I’m gonna be spending a LOT of money on music in November. Glee, Carrie, Jason, John Mayer, Kris, Adam, Allison, and I don’t even know who else. My birthday is early in the month, so I guess I should just tell people that I want iTunes giftcards for my birthday. LOL.

Thanks for the 2 part Allison interview, I enjoyed it very much. Yeah her tweets are hard to decipher so it was nice to read an actual interview where she spoke English (I say that affectionately as I am a fan)

I don’t think the RS article made Kellie sound or look like a tramp. (but I guess I haven’t seen all the photos yet) I’m glad to hear that she’s not your stereotypical country singer, glad she has a new friend and he’s a gay guy, it sounds like they had fun together. Gay men can be the most fun to hang out with! I liked the article and knowing that Kellie likes rock and is writing songs in bathrooms about black tears, that cracked me up.

by the way, the edit feature is much easier to use than before, and my computer isn’t getting timed out since the new changes, so thanks mj.

That pic of Kellie Pickler in Rollingstone is probably the worst photo I have ever seen of her. Maybe it’s the hairstyle, maybe the lighting?

I totally agree. She looks so harsh and hookerish (is that a word?)

Already stated

I’ve had some great best friends who were gay men. They can be the most fun to hang out with!

So true, I love vacationing with my best gay male friends. But seriously those pictures in RS are atrocious.

Were there pictures? I better look again. (ETA I give up, can’t find pictures)

Kellie does look harsh in that one photo, it’s partly the lighting. And she does dress vampy a lot of times. I do chalk it up to her uneasy childhood and her need for attention, not always the right kind. She is a beautiful woman, I just wish she would tone it down a bit but that’s the image she chooses to go with.

Squirrely, my best friend’s a vet, you don’t have to work with reptiles. Most vets work with cats and dogs primarily. You don’t have to see any kinds of animals you don’t want to. When people call, the receptionist tells them if the doctors see wildlife, reptiles, birds, etc. Different vets specialize in different areas. My friend works with a lot of wildlife, primarily squirrels and raccoons.

Sarah, I think the month of November is a busy month for cd drops because of the Thanksgiving and Christmas rush. Big sales at that time of year so there is always competition. If you can’t buy them all one week, maybe you can get the others on subsequent weeks?

September 4 Madison, WI Alliant Energy Center
September 5 Indianapolis, IN Conseco Fieldhouse
September 6 Grand Rapids, MI Van Andel Arena
September 8 Reading, PA Sovereign Center
September 9 Wilkes Barre, PA Wachovia Arena
September 10 Bridgeport, CT Arena at Harbor Yard
September 12 Portland, ME Cumberland County Civic Center
September 13 Providence, RI Dunkin’ Donuts Center
September 14 Syracuse, NY WarMemorial at OnCenter
September 15 Manchester, NH Verizon Wireless Arena

Down to the last 10 Concerts for the Idols this season. I’m exhausted, can’t even begin to imagine how the Idols feel. (And no it isn’t like a tour after Idol…whole different kettle of fish that one).

This stretch is by far the most taxing…I think they will stay in Chicago until they head off to Reading PA. So morning and evening bus rides will be a couple of hours long but they can sleep in the same bed. Let’s see if I would make a good travel agent.

Then I think they’ll fly to New York and stay there for the next 3 concerts. I may be off my rocker and they may stay in each of the towns but I don’t really think so…..

I also think they will be arriving later and leaving earlier and that the meet and greets and interviews may not be quite as extensive. It would be interesting to see how the sales for the final venues now stand and if a BIG push needs to be made to sell the final seats.

So we know that 4 Idols move on to recording and marketing their future singles and albums. I think Matt will find himself “booked” at some venues and will get a chance to back door into the recording industry as time passes and he expands his fan base through live performances. Anoop will head to LA to pound the pavement, Lil will go home to her babies, Scott will continue to fund his own career and will be booked as a “singer/motivational speaker”, Megan will move to LA and will try her hand at anything offered until her nest egg runs out, and Sarver will find a nice independent label or he may head to the Christian recording industry. Did I miss anyone?

okay the smileys hate me – I typed a response – mostly to Oceana, and when I hit the smiley it disappeared and I’m to lazy to type it again…

Sarah, I think the month of November is a busy month for cd drops because of the Thanksgiving and Christmas rush. Big sales at that time of year so there is always competition. If you can’t buy them all one week, get the others on subsequent weeks?

Yeah, I know. It always is, because of what you said – the desire to get albums out for Black Friday and Christmas sales. I’ve just never had that many cd’s that I really want drop in one month in prior years, even taking that into account.

Of course, this is also the first season of Idol where my top 3 favorites were signed by 19/Sony. Heh.

I wonder when Allison’s cd will be out …

Just imagine, most of the idols probably already have their plane tickets for home.

Does anyone know if you can preorder Adam’s album?

That second part for the Allison interview is great. I love her family and how supportive they are of her. Her road trip to San Francisco for the audition reminded me of Little Miss Sunshine, with her traveling with mom, dad, sister, brother, cousin and two aunts. It’s very latino, reminds me of my own family. Her mom is such a sweetheart, staying with her 14 hours sleeping outside? All I have to say is she better give her one hell of a Mother’s day present next year. It’s also nice to see that she’s so grounded and appreciative of everything her family does for her.

It’s so sad that during auditions round that guy with the plaid jacket got more airtime than she did. I guess she wasn’t ridiculous enough for the producers.

I wonder when Allison’s cd will be out ‘ ¦

Rumoured date is November 10th

Does anyone know if you can preorder Adam’s album?

Amazon will have Adam’s album available for pre-order. Currently you can place an update to let you know when pre-order is available. Amazon will send you an email.

Hey, our own luvadamlambert will love this. She said she was counting the days.

http://www.livecountdown.com/countdownclock/countdown.aspx?id=14598

Thank you so much readon.

Readon stated it..

Tess: So we know that 4 Idols move on to recording and marketing their future singles and albums. I think Matt will find himself ‘booked’  at some venues and will get a chance to back door into the recording industry as time passes and he expands his fan base through live performances. Anoop will head to LA to pound the pavement, Lil will go home to her babies, Scott will continue to fund his own career and will be booked as a ‘singer/motivational speaker’ , Megan will move to LA and will try her hand at anything offered until her nest egg runs out, and Sarver will find a nice independent label or he may head to the Christian recording industry. Did I miss anyone?

Just a couple of additons:

Lil said she and her family are moving to LA. She doesn’t have much of a shot IMO but there isn’t much for her in Memphis either.

Michael said he is going to Nashville to pursue a Country music career. I think he may be able to make a living there and playing in Branson, MO. But I see Michael doing Country not Christian music.

Well that Billboard.biz article certainly doesn’t bode well for album sales. Yeesh.

I would think that it doesn’t matter about a release date unless you are maniacal about having a hot little CD in your hand instantly. There will be a lot of internet places to “hear” the album until it can be purchased…and unless someone is buying to make their guy #1 out of the blocks, a few weeks wait won’t hurt (a sale is a sale).

So much is going to depend on the marketing efforts for the Idols, anyway. Outside of the AI bubble they don’t have a lot of “recognition”, so a music buyer isn’t going to see their CD on the retail rack and instantly buy it…like they might with a John Mayer CD. They are going to have to hear it (somewhere) first before they’ll shell out their 10 or 15 bucks.

I think we need to see how much marketing there is between now and Christmas to even begin to figure out how our kids will do. We need to listen for radio interviews and promos, watch for banners on music sites, hope for some singles relatively quickly, check out magazine features and articles, analyze press releases, view every “talk” show known to man, and peruse the internet for any mention of our favs.

Wow, Archie’s Xmas album is dropping October 13? Do people really start buying Xmas music that early?

However, I should point out that DC released last year on the same day as Nickelback and it didn’t hurt him too much. People may not have as much disposable money this year, but at that time people are already going to be buying Christmas presents. So I wouldn’t stress too much over it.

The unemployment numbers for August were released today: 9.7% unemployment, a rise of 0.3%, that translates into 216,000 people who have lost their jobs last month. That’s the highest it’s been since 1983, there are 15 Million people out of work right now.

I don’t think we should expect sales anywhere near last year’s numbers for any artist, let alone the Idols – - The Billboard.bz article in the headlines demonstrates that fact.

will
September 4, 2009 at 10:35 am
Wow, Archie’s Xmas album is dropping October 13? Do people really start buying Xmas music that early?

Didn’t Josh Groban’s Christmas CD also drop in October? I am not a Grobanite, but I seem to remember that.

Am I the only one thinking that Archie may have picked the wrong year for a Christmas CD? There are so many Christmas CDs, covering so many of the same songs.

Didn’t Josh Groban’s Christmas CD also drop in October?

I have no idea. I’m Jewish, so I don’t pay attention to such things normally. But it just seems a little strange to be promoting and advertising a Christmas album so early.

Hey y’all, Light On just went platinum!!!:grin: Congrats David.

From DC’s twitter:

RT @chriscornell: RT @suenigma Congratulations! Light On just went platinum. Great song.

Well, on a brighter note, if people are willing to cough up $60-100 for concert tickets for their favs, I bet they will find $15 for the album.

I think Foo Fighters and Bon Jovi and Avril Lavigne are releasing albums in early November . And Lady Gaga is releasing her new album on November 24. Head on with Adam. Lil Wayne as well is on Nov 24.

And there is Susan Boyle on November 24. Okay Simon , Susan and Adam on same day, eh.

For me – I am converting Christmas gifts to albums. Everyone is getting Adam in their Christmas stocking this year. Hope his album cover would look great peeping over the stockings.

cheesy

7 years ago today Miss Kelly Clarkson became the very first American Idol.

7 years ago today Miss Kelly Clarkson became the very first American Idol.

It’s weird to remember that AI was a summer “filler” show that first season.

The Lady GaGa album is not new. It is a re-issue, which shouldn’t even cause the Adam camp to break a sweat. Adam definitely got a more favorable drop week, than did Kris.

Kris is up against John Mayer and Leona Lewis. Adam also has the movie tie-in.

As a Kris fan, I have resolved myself to lower opening sales for him, unless he has a ‘killah’ single coming out, or a movie tie-in, that is the best kept secret ever.

Susan Boyle’s CD is #1 on Amazon — and the pricing stategy seems to indicate that they want to pre-sell Susan’s album — since it is priced at what looks like the real price vs. Kris’ album with is at a higher retail, and no discounted price.

Susan Boyle – Retail: $11.98 On pre-sale: $9.99
Kris Allen – $13.98 no pre-sale discount
Adam Lambert – no price, not on pre-sale yet

At least Kris’ retail is lower that the fake retail price they put on Cook’s and Archie’s CDs (retail $18.98/discount $11.88-$14.99). But since the digital album will probably be cheaper ($9.99?) and the Wal-Mart, BestBuy, CD Universe, Amazon post-release, etc. prices will be discounted, why would anyone pre-order Kris’ CD at retail price?
Am I missing something here?

Every single winner and runner-up has to face tough competition every year. Archie had to compete with Taylor Swift, DC had to compete with Beyonce and Nickelback, Daughtry had to compete with the Beatles Cirque de Soleil and Jay-Z. If Kris’ numbers are good enough he won’t be overshadowed when it comes to press. What other dates would be good for him? I rather him compete with Jason/Mayer than Adam. I bet we haven’t even heard the last of all the November dates.

Chris Cornell also has the LO news posted on the front page of his official site Of course you know Billie Jean had to be mentioned..

I swear that Lyndsey Parker has to be a lurker or poster on this board or any of the other main ones. She knows too much, lol.

I am not an album buyer anymore, and I have a personal rule that unless there are at least two or three good songs on the album I won’t buy ( Thanks alot OUTKAST- you were the ones that broke me with that damn Speakerboxx/LoveBelow. Four great songs and the remaining 36 were crapola).

I already bought three or four songs off of Kings Of Leon’s new album and now i am kicking myself for not buying the whole thing. I am going to make the splurge though, because they are THAt good. I can count on 1 hand how many albums I have bought in the last ten years that were great from start to finish.

The only two Idol alums that I will buy are Jason’s and Adam’s, just because they were my favorites and I want to support them. The others I will buy singles if they impress me. If Jason or Adam don’t deliver on the albums though- it will be back to the single for them.

That second part for the Allison interview is great. I love her family and how supportive they are of her. Her road trip to San Francisco for the audition reminded me of Little Miss Sunshine…

I love this.

Well, on a brighter note, if people are willing to cough up $60-100 for concert tickets for their favs, I bet they will find $15 for the album.

Excellent point.

Am I the only one thinking that Archie may have picked the wrong year for a Christmas CD? There are so many Christmas CDs, covering so many of the same songs.

Maybe they’re releasing his so early to get a jump on the others?

I already bought three or four songs off of Kings Of Leon’s new album and now i am kicking myself for not buying the whole thing.

I have it – it’s great!

poporange have you tried contacting MJ by e-mail to resolve your problems with chat?

Studio57, if you bought your Kings of Leon singles from iTunes, you can probably use their ‘complete my album’ feature to buy the rest. That way you aren’t paying for songs you already have.

Lyndsey loves her some Idols. She probably does lurk here and def on other boards. She was beyond familiar with Blake–prob more than he was. It is crazy to me that he knew *nothing* about Idol before he auditioned–NOTHING. He will do much better on Tommy Boy, since it’s an Indie label and will do a better job of promoting him. Lyndsey tweets a lot, so she must get some info there, too, and she researches like crazy (and knows about all kinds of music). But she loves Idol as much or more than we do, and you would be hard to press another Adam fangirl as much as she is. Heh.

YTD sales are down 31% since 2007. That is a huge drop. So Idols that have put out albums in the past year like Archie, David Cook, Kelly Clarkson, Kelly Pickler, Daughtry are doing pretty good in today’s climate. It will be interesting to see how the idols fair this fall. The question remains is the industry in a slump and will recover or is it permanent?

ETA: Lyndsey is no fan of David Cook just sayin.

WTF, are you telling me DC watches Wife Swap after his shows now!? That kid is LMAO…

http://bit.ly/17kIP0 “she is the queen and we are the sorry people” ~D

I love that Neal tweets about partying after a show, and DC posts a clip from Wife Swap… he is such a goober rock star.

The Lady GaGa album is not new. It is a re-issue, which shoudn’t even cause the Adam camp to break a sweat. Adam definitely got a more favorable drop week, than did Kris.

Kris is up against John Mayer and Leona Lewis. Adam also has the movie tie-in.

As a Kris fan, I have resolved myself to lower opening sales for him, unless he has a ‘killah’ single coming out, or a movie tie-in, that is the best kept secret ever.

Honestly I don’t think the dates really make much difference in terms of success. I wish I had marketing insight from the Music industry on this. It might affect first week sales, but after that I honestly think that if you want to take a wild guess at success deeper one needs to look at the number of artists already in that specific genre and those releasing in the genre in the short term.

I also don’t think that Adam has it any easier, perhaps he will get put on a shelf for black friday releases, but I don’t think it will go farther than this. Both Kris and Adam are essentially nobodies to the general public. As many have posted before, their success or failure will be due to a weak single release or poor marketing. Kris needs to stand out in a more crowded market and Adam needs to erase the stereotypes of what a ‘pop’ artist is (meaning not necessarily female) – both have challenges. And well, Allison, I’m not sure about this and can’t comment – but like the others, I’m looking forward to her release as well.

With a whole lot of snark and a lot of love: Archie fans are breathlessly waiting for Archie’s Christmas CD and most of them will gobble it up by the 14th of October. They are anticipating an album from the real Archie….big voice, deep content, lots of musical accompaniment, spiritual, uplifting, emotional, stirring. All the things that make Archie really special in their opinion.

I am sure that many of them are really growing tired of the “Tween” Archie they have been listening to all year (though most won’t admit it) with his bubble-gum pop and his song’s of adolescent angst. Based on so many comments from last years’ Yule concerts they feel that Archie will have a Christmas album that will rival a lot of the big guys.

Actually, for their sake and for Archie’s, I hope that the album does really well and that he can reach more fans out of the AI and Disney bubble. The kid has potential…he just needs to grow up into his voice. I can’t believe he is just short of 19. Aren’t you an adult by then?

ETA: Lyndsey is no fan of David Cook just sayin.

123abc456, I defended Lyndsey a little in the Blake Lewis Part 1 interview thread. She’s actually a fan of DC, just not Light On, or his album. But I haven’t watched part 2.

Does anyone else think the Glee cd is going to be a huge seller? I’m predicting the tween AND teen market are going to want this cd for Christmas. Look at how well the DSB single did.(and the show wasn’t on in the summer) I’m thinking it will have Miley Cyrus/Jonas Bros type numbers.

smallie
Just read your reply but I think they edit those interviews and she chose to leave in all the AI and Kris and Adam stuff. She also wrote a scathing review of Light On. She did not review his album. And you know what that is okay with me she does not have to like him. He is not everyone’s cup of tea. I was just pointing out that he may not be an Idol she particularly cares for.

Does anyone else think the Glee cd is going to be a huge seller? I’m predicting the tween AND teen market are going to want this cd for Christmas.

Based on what the singles did last year and the buzz this show is getting, I think Glee will be a monster. It’s a hipper HSM and one that has a lot of critical acclaim. I think that CD will sell well the entire Christmas season.

I’m no Lindsey Parker fan by any means but her Light On review was no worse than some of the stuff said about it by actual DC fans. That song got completely raked over the coals when it came out.

I love that Neal tweets about partying after a show, and DC posts a clip from Wife Swap’ ¦ he is such a goober rock star.

I had wondered if Neal did go out partying while he was sitting on the bus watching stuff on YT teehee. That clip was hilarious btw .I want to adopt that kid.

Headline: “Danny Gokey Goin’ Country”

Response in comment section: “Did he go gay yet?”

I don’t think Danny will have any trouble pulling of some contemporary country tunes… but it’s how he handles himself (“I’m not twangy” etc.) that gives me the most pause for his future success.

Squirelly- Notions is my new favorite song from them.

Vada- Wha???? I had no idea! Where is the option? I need Itunes For Dummies or something i have no idea how to work half the apps on there and still can’t figure out how to get my son’s screamo songs to stop playing when I have it on shuffle.

Honestly I don’t think the dates really make much difference in terms of success. I wish I had marketing insight from the Music industry on this. It might affect first week sales, but after that I honestly think that if you want to take a wild guess at success deeper one needs to look at the number of artists already in that specific genre and those releasing in the genre in the short term.

I also don’t think that Adam has it any easier, perhaps he will get put on a shelf for black friday releases, but I don’t think it will go farther than this. Both Kris and Adam are essentially nobodies to the general public. As many have posted before, their success or failure will be due to a weak single release or poor marketing. Kris needs to stand out in a more crowded market and Adam needs to erase the stereotypes of what a ‘pop’ artist is (meaning not necessarily female) ‘“ both have challenges. And well, Allison, I’m not sure about this and can’t comment ‘“ but like the others, I’m looking forward to her release as well.

i think i agree with you

David Cook’s album dropped with Nickelback and Beyonce. So he didn’t have it easy. Nickeback and Beyonce had great sales numbers, have historically good sales number that are far higher than John Mayers. Bottom line, I’m sure Kris will have very solid debut sales numbers. He has a solid fanbase by all accounts. The test will be if he can sustain the numbers and sell consistently over time. Jordin sold a disappointing 100,000 her first week and had a very small fanbase after Idol. But over the course of a full year, with solid singles and radio play, she was able to sell 1 million albums.

That clip was hilarious btw .I want to adopt that kid.

I know, right? Maybe DC was writing a song about that clip, called, “The Queen and the Sorry People” haha. Some sort of strange companion piece to Mr. Sensitive.

Squirelly- Notions is my new favorite song from them.

I like that one too but my favorite is ‘I Want You’

Just listened to Robbies new single, bodies. Not really my thing but he is doing rock/pop/electronic and isn’t that some gregorian singing or something? I swear, he and Adam are like twins!

Headline: ‘Danny Gokey Goin’ Country’ 

Response in comment section: ‘Did he go gay yet?’ 

I wonder if comments like that for anyone makes these idols feel like they have to defend their “manhood”, e.g., Danny and Scott’s tweets. I guess in Danny’s case, he loves his spa treatments – facials and pedicures.

Do Xmas albums usually sell well? I know I don’t buy them…if I want to hear Christmas carols, I turn on a classical station or head to church…

Adam also has the movie tie-in.

I surely do hope the movie thing is happening, but we just don’t have any confirmation that Adam’s song is picked.

As mentioned by previous posters, the first week sales don’t tell much. We have Archie’s case which had great starting sales but dropped out of chart quickly, and we have Jordon’s case which had less than stellar first week but sells steadily and remains on the chart for a longer time.

I know Adam’s sushi-eating ways were discussed in yesterday’s headline thread, but I didn’t see a link to this particular article, which I stumbled across in the Chicago Trib. Thought some of you might want to read it.

Adam Lambert Dines with Family at SUSHISAMBA rio

And now I want sushi.

People have been able to pre-order Kris’ album all summer. Those sales count for his first week, right? That should definitely help.

I love Robbie’s new single. Gregorian singing FTW!

Also, Adam Lambert’s website was updated with new header. And they are promising new photos next week from Adam’s recent photo shoot.
http://www.adamofficial.com/

Not sure this counts as “news” but AdamOfficial finally changed that god-awful photo at the top of the page!

Speaking of Danny, he is getting close to 100,000 Twitter followers. Adam’s http://www.donorschoose.org/adamlambert has almost $94,000 contributions, not counting the prior donations. I hope when he gets more non-AI fans, that number really jumps.

Also, Adam Lambert’s website was updated with new header. And they are promising new photos next week from Adam’s recent photo shoot.
http://www.adamofficial.com/

oh joy! That hideous “glampire” picture is gone. The new one is beautiful! I’m not kidding when I say I may actually visit the site more now. the old photo was a huge deterrent, IMO.

Not sure this counts as ‘news’  but AdamOfficial finally changed that god-awful photo at the top of the page!

I guess that means the person who posed for the old pic will stop getting residuals.

That second part for the Allison interview is great. I love her family and how supportive they are of her. Her road trip to San Francisco for the audition reminded me of Little Miss Sunshine, with her traveling with mom, dad, sister, brother, cousin and two aunts. It’s very latino, reminds me of my own family.

PRMari, I love that too, Allison’s so close to her big family, especially her mother, it’s nice. It does sound like Little Miss Sunshine, ha ha. I loved the story of Allison and her mother sleeping (trying to) outside all night. I remember her audition, she did look more subdued than usual, she must have been scared and freezing.

Danny close to 100,000 twitter followers, no wonder 19 signed him, he has a large fanbase and is probably very marketable to certain demographics.

Adam Lambert Dines with Family at SUSHISAMBA rio

Adam sure loved him some chocolate. Was that a tank beneath his jacket?

wrong picture

Gracie77
Fun read on Adam’s Chicago dining. He looked gooood in that photo.

Ever notice how Adam always has the right mix of shirt tucked in (at the belt buckle) and out everywhere else?

Also… the author of that article making a comment that Adam is a big dude. Obviously he meant “tall” as Adam looks mighty trim in that photo.

saga
September 4, 2009 at 11:50 am
Just listened to Robbies new single, bodies. Not really my thing but he is doing rock/pop/electronic and isn’t that some gregorian singing or something? I swear, he and Adam are like twins!

Uh-oh. Well then, if what I understand from Adam proves true, I don’t think you’ll like portions of Adam’s album either.
I think the style of this song probably comes pretty close to, at least, some of the tracks that will be on his album.

This is all speculation on my part ofcourse.
For what it’s worth, I like the song. But then again, it’s Robbie, and I’m extremely biased.

ETA:

I love Kings Of Leon’s “Notions” too.

oh joy! That hideous ‘glampire’  picture is gone. The new one is beautiful! I’m not kidding when I say I may actually visit the site more now. the old photo was a huge deterrent, IMO.

Good riddance to Glampire.

Tranter tells us the tune is called ‘Black Tears’  and is ‘all about crying while wearing too much makeup. So country, so glam, so rock & roll, so beautiful.’ 

I think this may explain the almost black eyes of Kellie. lol. I like Kellie, but that picture does her no favors.

Leave it to Mr. ‘sex, drugs, and rock and roll’  Jann Wenner’s mag, to think ‘filthy’ is the height of artistic expression.

My philosophy of rock is the anti-Wenner take. I have loved hard rock my entire life, without worshipping gratuitous sex or drugs.

Vada, thank you. Well said!! I for one appreciated your rant because that’s exactly how I feel.

Just listened to Robbies new single, bodies. Not really my thing but he is doing rock/pop/electronic and isn’t that some gregorian singing or something? I swear, he and Adam are like twins!

I love Robbie’s new single … it’s like the old Robbie (the chorus has the same build up and vibe of “Millenium”) .. but with new twists that to me bring it bang up to date .. I love the Gregorian chant backing and the electro almost rap beat. Plus the short clip of the new video shows that the Robmeister is still as hot as hell ….lol

Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjA8iJxDOnE

Video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRPMmtlZ9c4&feature=channel

So, Danny likes spas and Adam likes sushi. Good to know. Scott also posted a nice pic of himself in Chicago on twitter today.

Adam looks HOT in that pic from his official site. FINALLY. I love that the reporter got into the pic with Adam (even tho he didn’t want to) and admitted that he only watched the show one time. Lucky guy; gets a pic with Adam and isn’t even a fan!

Do Xmas albums usually sell well? I know I don’t buy them’ ¦if I want to hear Christmas carols, I turn on a classical station or head to church’ ¦

I am a Christmas fanatic and must own a 100 Christmas cds. Every year I add to my collection and I will be checking out David’s cd

oceana
September 4, 2009 at 12:03 pm

Danny close to 100,000 twitter followers, no wonder 19 signed him, he has a large fanbase and is probably very marketable to certain demographics.

twitter followers aren’t necessary music buyers. Idol spent a whole lot of the Idol buzz last year building up Danny Gokey as a soulful, religious widower with a voice. If he does, in fact, “go country” how are those subscribers going to respond to the new Danny? The answer to that question and the amount of payola money spent on him will ultimately decide if her is an “Idol success” story or another Taylor Hicks.

Also, Adam Lambert’s website was updated with new header. And they are promising new photos next week from Adam’s recent photo shoot.

Now I do like that picture of Adam….so sexy

From Extra TV, a tweet:

extratvEXCLUSIVE! Simon misses @PaulaAbdul http://su.pr/1EgPcN

Simon Cowell has broken his silence about Paula Abdul’s decision to leave “American Idol,” telling “Extra” that this season of the show is “different,” and “I miss her, of course.”

Paula’s days on “Idol” seem to be over, but she’s “someone who will always work.” Since leaving “AI,” the pop star has guest starred on “Drop Dead Diva” and continues to work on her QVC jewelry line. She’ll also be hosting VH1′s “Divas Live” on Sept. 17.

Studio57, go to the iTunes home page. The top right hand block is ‘quick links’. The next to last link is ‘complete my album’. For a few months, after you buy singles, you are able to buy the rest of the album at a price that discounts for the singles you already bought.

I love that the reporter got into the pic with Adam (even tho he didn’t want to) and admitted that he only watched the show one time.

How could he recognize Adam from the crowd if he just watched one episode of last season and ‘Lambert went mostly unnoticed’ from the others?

Uh-oh. Well then, if what I understand from Adam proves true, I don’t think you’ll like portions of Adam’s album either.

I already know I probably won’t like most of the stuff he does. I favour acoustic/alt rock but Adam just have such an interesting voice. Concering Robbies song, I love the gregorian part and the beat in the background but I don’t like it when a song has two very different parts that don’t mesh together well (NoBo anyone?). Also the phrases on the verse are too short, I like verses with a good melody (not just the chorus). Starlight has a very melodious verse for example.

I love Robbie’s new single ‘ ¦ it’s like the old Robbie (the chorus has the same build up and vibe of ‘Millenium’ ) .. but with new twists that to me bring it bang up to date .. I love the Gregorian chant backing and the electro almost rap beat. Plus the short clip of the new video shows that the Robmeister is still as hot as hell ‘ ¦.lol

Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjA8iJxDOnE

Video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRPMmtlZ9c4&feature=channel

He sure must be popular. That youtube song was justed posted today, and he has almost 11,000 views.

Tess
September 4, 2009 at 10:31 am
I would think that it doesn’t matter about a release date unless you are maniacal about having a hot little CD in your hand instantly. There will be a lot of internet places to ‘hear’  the album until it can be purchased’ ¦and unless someone is buying to make their guy #1 out of the blocks, a few weeks wait won’t hurt (a sale is a sale).

Totally with Tess on everything she said here. I will buy Adam’s CD on the 24th w/o giving a rat’s ass what it sounds like beforehand, but generally speaking, there’s plenty of time for them all to build momentum. (Plus I have to post for Tess every 10 minutes to keep ‘kissy lips’ front and center, but I don’t think I’m gonna make it).

I love Robbie’s new song…and yes this is exactly what I expect from Adam. OTT lyrics, dance beat, interesting gregorian chants, beautiful voice, gets better with each listen. Primo! Has my vote…and, yes, I think of all the singers out there Robbie is who I would “compare” Adam to.

Different people have different opinions on songs, etc., issued by artists. On DCO recently, someone did a great analysis of reviews of DC’s album showing the positive and negative mentions that most of the songs had gotten. So, my issues with LP’s review of LO were not that she didn’t like it, but (1) the tone and (2) the timing. At the time that she dumped that thing out, the entire album was available for review by reviewers and for regular listeners to hear on iheartmusic. But LP didn’t have time to listen to the entire album (which still strikes me as strange—isn’t that her job?), so she just did a drive-by slam on DC based on not liking LO.

Which is why I don’t give her hits unless I have reason to believe that she is saying something positive about DC, and I leave no comments.

I also think it’s hilarious if it is true that all she was given for interview time with DC was ten minutes between holes on a golf course. Heh. TI suspect that that little girl who interviewed DC recently got more time than that, and then also interviewed his stage chicken. Heh again.

shit.seems like an awesome thread 2day.sadly I have 2 go and probably won’t be back until late 2 night.I hate 2 keep asking u to do this(sorry in advance) but can someone plz let me kno what happens on 2day’s thread.I’ll be here 4 2morrow’s concert though. Btw my middle school is the MOST FRIGGIN AWESOME THING EVER!!!!!!!im not kidding it’s the shit.okay maybe I’m exaggerating but I have old friends in some of my classes and there’s some gr8 ppl there especially rachel in my last period.AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!(and my outfit wascool too.heh.)

and by my count (the countdown clock doesn’t work on my itouch ) 82 DAYS TILL ADAM’S ALBUM DROPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

btw MJ I flove the smileys.b4 they didn’t work on my itouch.now they’re perfect. the format’s gr8 nowtoo…,

How could he recognize Adam from the crowd if he just watched one episode of last season and ‘Lambert went mostly unnoticed’ from the others?

BeckyMD – It’s likely that he got a tip from the staff at the restaurant and went there specifically to interview Adam. Someone may have even pointed Adam out to the reporter to assist.

Scott also posted a nice pic of himself in Chicago on twitter today.

What was he eating?

Release date does matter. Adam is virtually guaranteed a #1 album on November 24. The actual sales number won’t even matter. The album will never be mentioned on the radio or in the printed press, without the prefix of #1. It is invaluable PR.

twitter followers aren’t necessary music buyers.

True. Jordin has over 300K followers, but hasn’t sold 1/3 that many albums I think? Well, in her case, her followers probably buy her singles. Another example- Chris Cornell has nearly 1 million followers, but I guess they are fans of the old stuff since his solo work has not done much. In contrast Chris Daughtry has a measly 85K followers, but is consistently selling really well. I guess it depends on demographics, and I don’t think twitter followers are necessarily a good predictor of album sales.

Adam is virtually guaranteed a #1 album on November 24.

You’re willing to bet money that Adam will outsell Lil Wayne? Didn’t he open with like a million units last time? I guess it depends what his new stuff sounds like.

Concering Robbies song, I love the gregorian part and the beat in the background but I don’t like it when a song has two very different parts that don’t mesh together well (NoBo anyone?). Also the phrases on the verse are too short, I like verses with a good melody (not just the chorus). Starlight has a very melodious verse for example.

Bodies is not an easy song, it complex compared to normal pop. It’s the kind of song that needs a few listens to fully grasp, I think. It’s not as straightforward as Starlight. It has layers that unfold with every hearing, and beats that you don’t quite understand the first time, and that might sound like they’re out of place, but they’re not.

I’m not saying you should like it, absolutely not, in fact I can’t see this song becoming a huge hit in the US. But Karenw is correct, it is vintage Robbie, and it is the kind of song that made him an international star.

One good thing with having lots of twitter followers is that when your albums drops it only takes one twitter to reach out and remind all your followers that your album is out.

Semi Precious Weapons has some great songs. I’ve been listening to them on high rotation for the last couple of months. The hilarious thing is, to me they do exactly what I would expect Adam to do if he weren’t with Idol. The lead singer is like Adam’s alternate personality. Heh. So I am highly amused at that dude is working with the Pickler. I have to listen to that when it’s done.

I have 2 go now…

One good thing with having lots of twitter followers is that when your albums drops it only takes one twitter to reach out and remind all your followers that your album is out.

It also appears that the media reads those tweets too. I bet they get much of their information there.

Also, Adam Lambert’s website was updated with new header. And they are promising new photos next week from Adam’s recent photo shoot.
http://www.adamofficial.com/

Woo hooo!! Lookin’ good!!! The wax doll is history!

Have a good one luvadamlambert.

What was he eating?

That was full of win.

The wax doll is history!

The most perfect description of the Elviro picture I have ever read.

I don’t think Adam is guaranteed a #1 album by virtue of his drop date by any means. Even if Lil Wayne’s album is crappy, I think it will have great first week sales.

Which is why I don’t give her hits unless I have reason to believe that she is saying something positive about DC, and I leave no comments.

Isn’t everyone entitled to an opinion…and I don’t think I would be inclined to dis a reviewer for doing their job, whether I loved or hated what they had to say. Every Artist is going to have media affiliates and writers that love them and probably about the same number that don’t treat them very kindly.

As much as it tends to hurt, though I must be insane to feel hurt for someone I have never met or probably never will, I try to be philosophical about the negative as well as the positive. Without some negative there is no need to improve and without improving someone remains stagnant and stagnation eventually leads to a lot of green, slimy, smelly water.

What would happen if a new kid, right out of the blocks, got nothing but praise and 5 star ratings for their material. How would you ever top that or come close and the rest of their career would only fall short and eventually you would die on the vine because you could never live up to the initial greatness. That is why I like slow and steady…good reviews and bad…OTT and shallow. It’s all good, to me.

Adam sure loved him some chocolate. Was that a tank beneath his jacket?

Aw, c’mon, he didn’t eat THAT much sushi! OH! Oh, you mean a tank top…? Thought you meant he ate so much it looked like he was sportin’ an entire fish tank under there….

Also, Adam Lambert’s website was updated with new header. And they are promising new photos next week from Adam’s recent photo shoot.
http://www.adamofficial.com/

Woo hooo!! Lookin’ good!!! The wax doll is history!

Yes, to Adam’s new photo on the official site. Maybe I will visit the site more often now….

Adam is virtually guaranteed a #1 album on November 24.

You’re willing to bet money that Adam will outsell Lil Wayne? Didn’t he open with like a million units last time? I guess it depends what his new stuff sounds like.

Yes, I am. Lil’ Wayne’s album buzz has been a deadly kind of bad. It is a rock album, instead of hip hop. It has been pushed back several times from April, all the way to November.

All of that pretty much screams ‘bomb’, although a Lil Wayne bomb is probably not going to be as bad as a bomb for most of the rest of humanity.

Release date does matter. Adam is virtually guaranteed a #1 album on November 24. The actual sales number won’t even matter. The album will never be mentioned on the radio or in the printed press, without the prefix of #1. It is invaluable PR.

So, if Samuel Pederson drops his album on Nov. 24, he’s guaranteed #1 album?

I’m Bored! Nothing new happening…. Well this is probably a good thing.. for me anyway
seeing as I have a new contract to start after the long weekend!!! I will be counting down until Nov 24th.. its a longgggggggggg wait BB.

Carrie’s single cover for Cowboy Casanova:

http://i32.tinypic.com/21mhs15.jpg

I don’t think Adam is guaranteed a #1 album by virtue of his drop date by any means. Even if Lil Wayne’s album is crappy, I think it will have great first week sales.

Yes, but I think what Vada was getting at is that there will surely be some chart, somewhere, for some demo, that has Adam at #1. You’d better believe that even if he is only #1 among women 18-35 in Albequerque that his record will be promoted as a “NUMBER ONE ALBUM!!!!!”

(Don’t get me wrong, I think Adam’s album will do well, but when it comes to PR, anything goes).

ETA: I think I misunderstood Vada’s intent, but both points are valid. 11/24 does give him a good chance at a legit #1, but even if he doesn’t score it, see above.

sma11ie
September 4, 2009 at 12:34 pm

Adam is virtually guaranteed a #1 album on November 24.

You’re willing to bet money that Adam will outsell Lil Wayne? Didn’t he open with like a million units last time? I guess it depends what his new stuff sounds like.

I consider myself a VERY optimistic Adam fan, and even *I* don’t think Adam will outsell Lil Wayne. I don’t care what kind of bad buzz Lil Wayne is getting. His last album sold over 1 MILLION his first week! Even even he does half that because of all the bad buzz, that’s like 500K. And I’m sure Black Friday will prop him up too. There’s NO WAY Adam can top that!

Honestly, I’m just hoping for a Top 5 finish for Adam and somewhere between 200 – 300K his first week.

(Don’t get me wrong, I think Adam’s album will do well, but when it comes to PR, anything goes).

LOL that’s what I love about PRs. Only there will you see stuff like “*insert artist name* is the first *insert 10 adjectives* to accomplish this or that since *insert 10 disclaimers”.

I’m not saying you should like it, absolutely not, in fact I can’t see this song becoming a huge hit in the US. But Karenw is correct, it is vintage Robbie, and it is the kind of song that made him an international star.

I really like “Bodies” and a lot of Robbie’s other music. I’ve always wondered why he hasn’t had greater success here in the U.S. The guy has a great voice (and he’s quite a looker, which doesn’t hurt in the music biz). I’ve watched some of his concert videos, and he has great stage presence, too. Of course, maybe I just have a British music bias — most of my favorite artists are from the UK.

Adam sure loved him some chocolate. Was that a tank beneath his jacket?

You sure did examine that pic, didn’t you. I had to go back to figure out what you meant. I wonder if it was windy? His hair in the back looks kinda like it’s flying. Also, since I did go back to check out that pic again, his lips…… aaahhhh those lips…

LOL that’s what I love about PRs. Only there will you see stuff like ‘*insert artist name* is the first *insert 10 adjectives* to accomplish this or that since *insert 10 disclaimers’ .

Exactly. See, for example, “country hasn’t had an artist like Danny Gokey since Ronnie Milsap or T. Graham Brown.”

I’m not holding onto any hopes/fantasies that any of my faves will have the #1 spot when their albums drop. They all have a long road ahead to get out of the AI bubble. And, sure, if they aren’t #1 right away, there will be some buzz/negative talk for a time, but in the long run it won’t matter.

FWIW, I’ll be buying for sure Adam’s, Kris’ and Allison’s albums. Not because I think they will be the best shit ever, I’m a realist, but because I support them and feel it’s the least I can do as a fan.

Carrie’s single cover for Cowboy Casanova:

http://i32.tinypic.com/21mhs15.jpg

Oh my God….the photoshop guy from Kelly’s album is now working with Carrie!!

Come on…..what happened to real and beautiful instead of phony and “you have to be kidding”.

Who out there in consumer land is demanding these trite, trite covers. Not me!!

Yes, but I think what Vada was getting at is that there will surely be some chart, somewhere, for some demo, that has Adam at #1.

I think the only chart that matters is Billboard 200 actually — at least for using it as a future reference as having been #1. Anything else would sound kinda desperate, don’t you think?

there will surely be some chart, somewhere, for some demo, that has Adam at #1.

Hm, that makes me wonder which category Adam’s album would fall under– pop probably? DC opened at #3 for the Billboard 200 and at #2 for the Billboard Rock album chart… Whatever new thing Lil Wayne does, it won’t be pop, so maybe Adam will get the #1 pop album.

You guys are guaranteeing a # 1 for Adam. Wow

Allison’s interview shows what she is made of: spunk, family, friendship, dreams – go girl!

I consider myself a VERY optimistic Adam fan, and even *I* don’t think Adam will outsell Lil Wayne. I don’t care what kind of bad buzz Lil Wayne is getting. His last album sold over 1 MILLION his first week! Even even he does half that because of all the bad buzz, that’s like 500K. And I’m sure Black Friday will prop him up too. There’s NO WAY Adam can top that!

Yes – I agree. I haven’t really followed the buzz around Lil Wayne’s album, but he is still VERY prominent in the public eye (lots of publicity all year, LOTS of collaborations that have kept him all over the charts). So just because of that buzz, I’m expecting him to do really well.

I don’t care about the #1 finish, anyways, because, as others have pointed out, it’s all in perspective. You could be #1 and sell nothing, or #5 and still be big, and even continue to grow after the album drops. It would be much more important to me for Adam to have longevity on the charts.

I think the only chart that matters is Billboard 200 actually ‘” at least for using it as a future reference as having been #1. Anything else would sound kinda desperate, don’t you think?

Let me put it this way. One time I was reading a movie review that trashed a particular film. The reviewer basically said only the first 10 minutes were any good. He wrote, “for a really good time, go see [movie], but leave after the opening scene.”

The full page ad in the newspaper the next day blurbed the reviewer as follows:

“For a really good time, go see [movie]…!!!”

Hehe..Vada and reverse psychology…

Adam isnt going #1 on the same week Lil Wayne releases..anyone and everyone knows that…dont worry……….let’s see how Nov 17 goes first!

Yes, but I think what Vada was getting at is that there will surely be some chart, somewhere, for some demo, that has Adam at #1. You’d better believe that even if he is only #1 among women 18-35 in Albequerque that his record will be promoted as a ‘NUMBER ONE ALBUM!!!!!’ 

–

Uh..

Well, first you’d have to segment the market of first week album buyers. Shopper Insights is good – but it’s hard to tell the age of a WalMart customer who might pick up an album. Certainly you can guess, but it would be a guess, unless all buyers were polled and the data validated. Also, I hardly think the headline are going read Adam Lambert sells #1 in the 18-35 age demographic — because bloggers and journalists are going to focus on who sold #1 overall.

And are people serious with the 200K-300k sales projection for Adam’s first week sales? When MJ’s just linked an article on how album / track sales continue to decline? And people are suggesting that Adam’s going to put up Daughtry type sales numbers? Daughtry’s fans waited 2.5 years for his album. Their fanbase has grown beyond just Idol fans. And their first week sales numbers were 269,000. Heh. Well, good luck with that. This fall is going to be fun.

Let me put it this way. One time I was reading a movie review that trashed a particular film. The reviewer basically said only the first 10 minutes were any good. He wrote, ‘for a really good time, go see [movie], but leave after the opening scene.’ 

The full page ad in the newspaper the next day blurbed the reviewer as follows:

‘For a really good time, go see [movie]‘ ¦!!!’ 

True, this happens all the time but PR ‘spin’ will only take them so far. That’s why projecting long term career success based on first day album sales is not prudent. Sure, having the number 1 album would be great for any of the idols (I certainly wouldn’t complain) but they are going to have to put out a solid product if they are going to have any legitimate chance in the long run.

‘For a really good time, go see [movie]‘ ¦!!!’ 

Yep, that is pretty much how it works. If an artist can get #1 on any chart (even the heatseakers), it will be touted as a number 1 album. Only the chart followers will know that it didn’t hit number 1 on the big chart.

Of course, if it’s an Idol (or other artist with fractious anti-fans) who touts being number 1 despite not hitting number 1 on the BB200, some rabid h8ters will follow around every mention of the number 1 album and explain the “true facts” to the general public in the comments section of the article and everybody will think they are loons.

Same goes for RIAA certifications. Seriously, how many of you knew before you started following Idols that platinum/gold certifications were based on shipments, not sales?

PR is designed to make you look good and most people really don’t care too much about the facts when it comes to trivial things like this (or anything really…)

I don’t think Adam is guaranteed the #1 album for the week of Nov. 24. He not only has to outsell the other people whose albums are dropping that week, he has to outsell everyone whose albums may have already dropped. John Mayer could certainly sell more albums in his 2nd week of release than Adam does in his 1st week, for example. And Lil Wayne should sell a ton of albums as well. And even if it is a re-release, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Lady Gaga sell a bunch as well.

I definitely don’t think that Adam will outsell Little Wayne. Though I do think that he will sell well, and probably be in the top 5 for album sales that week. I wonder who else is releasing an album that week?

I’ll be shocked, really shocked if Lil Wayne sells any less than say, 500,000. He may not sell a million again but he’s going to have big sales. When he was predicted to sell 900,000 before his last CD even dropped people were doubting it..he exceeded it.

Hm, that makes me wonder which category Adam’s album would fall under’“ pop probably? DC opened at #3 for the Billboard 200 and at #2 for the Billboard Rock album chart’ ¦

He also got the #1 digital album and RCA sure ran with that for PR purposes. Even if Adam doesn’t get #1 on the BB200 they’ll find some way to maximize his chart position.

Adam is virtually guaranteed a #1 album on November 24.

No way. Even if by some weird stroke of luck he could beat Little Wayne there is NO WAY in hell he’ll beat Susan Boyle. She’s sitting up at #1 on Amazon. She’s going to kick Adam’s butt – and everyone else’s butts except maybe Lil Wayne.

Does Lil Wayne have a single tied-in with a block buster movie that opens the day before his CD drops? Not that I know of, but Adam apparently does.

Someone just this morning, posted the differences in the pre-orders for the Simon Cowell related peeps at Amazon. The poster wondered why Susan Boyle’s CD was available for pre-order for $9.99, while Kris’ is $13.98, and Adam’s isn’t yet available.

Well, here is why:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1620806/20090904/story.jhtml

It is all in the marketing people. Now Susan Boyle will get her headlines, that she is outselling Carrie, Kris, Adam and Leona Lewis.

Shopper Insights is good ‘“ but it’s hard to tell the age of a WalMart customer who might pick up an album.

That’s a good point. I was being somewhat tongue-in-cheek in my initial post about the finely sliced demos, but you’re right about the limitations on album sales as compared to, say, radio airplay.

Also, I hardly think the headline are going read Adam Lambert sells #1 in the 18-35 age demographic ‘” because bloggers and journalists are going to focus on who sold #1 overall.

Agreed. But I was speaking to the advertising, not the journalistic reviews. Trust me — if he hits #1 on any chart, in any market, it will be promoted as a #1 by his PR folks. (Whether reporters, album buyers, or your or me believe it deserves to be called #1 is a separate matter, of course.)

No way. Even if by some weird stroke of luck he could beat Little Wayne there is NO WAY in hell he’ll beat Susan Boyle. She’s sitting up at #1 on Amazon. She’s going to kick Adam’s butt ‘“ and everyone else’s butts except maybe Lil Wayne.

THIS^^^ Susan Boyle is going to leave the others in the dust. I think that will include Little Wayne and *sniff* Adam.

Isn’t everyone entitled to an opinion’ ¦and I don’t think I would be inclined to dis a reviewer for doing their job, whether I loved or hated what they had to say. Every Artist is going to have media affiliates and writers that love them and probably about the same number that don’t treat them very kindly.

Tess, I may be mistaken, but I don’t think Folkfan was referring to LP’s review of LO (yes of course she’s entitled to her opinion), but instead that LP didn’t listen to the entire album, as a reviewer, and only based her review on LO. IMO, FF makes a valid point.

P.S. I agree that the drop date for Adam may be better than for Kris. Hopefully if he gets a #1 that week and Kris (almost assuredly) doesn’t the week before, fans will realize that we have to look at numbers and most importantly long term sales. Headlines proclaiming a #1 album placement is a pretty big deal, esp. for AI and I believe 19 is well aware of this…and yes, I still live on the grassy knoll from time to time.

Yeah, 123abc456, it’s not Adam fans that are predicting Adam will be #1. I think the majority of us have much more realistic expectations. I’m hoping for a good showing and longevity on the chart, that’s it.

Allison’s interview shows what she is made of: spunk, family, friendship, dreams ‘“ go girl!

Definitely agree. I can’t wait for parts 3 and 4. The girl’s got guts.

Kellie Picklers’ video for her new single “Didn’t You Know How Much I Loved You”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNOW4x74Gzs

The video was shot at the Dominican Republic.

September 13 Providence, RI Dunkin’ Donuts Center

Very random – but I just had to point out the awesomeness of performing at the Dunkin’ Donuts Center

Hey, our own luvadamlambert will love this. She said she was counting the days.

http://www.livecountdown.com/countdownclock/countdown.aspx?id=14598

And this may be even awesomer!

I think it would be difficult to come out of AI and jump to #1 on the charts the first week when you are up against established artists. I wish all the best though for Kradison!

http://www.livecountdown.com/countdownclock/countdown.aspx?id=14598 That seems like sooooo long to wait!!!!

Wow. The predictions around here are really low. Let’s be realistic, people! Not only will Adam debut at #1, but will probably remain there for several weeks/months. I’m seeing his first week someone around 1.7 million. He’ll reach diamond within 6 months.

Also, the Grammys have been relocated to Adam’s apartment so he doesn’t have to make the trip to pick up his 15 awards.

No way. Even if by some weird stroke of luck he could beat Little Wayne there is NO WAY in hell he’ll beat Susan Boyle. She’s sitting up at #1 on Amazon. She’s going to kick Adam’s butt ‘“ and everyone else’s butts except maybe Lil Wayne.

Is Adam’s album available for pre-order on Amazon? .. i can’t find it .. just something that says you can sign up to be notified of details when available. If that’s the case it’s difficult to judge how his sales would compare to hers based on pre-orders.

If she does outsell Adam .. or anyone else for that matter .. I’ll just be sad that the American’s may think that shes the best us Brits can come up with ….as there are at least 2 people in a choir my mother’s in who can sing just as well as her … plus they’re better looking …lol

Very random ‘“ but I just had to point out the awesomeness of performing at the Dunkin’ Donuts Center

There’s something meta-ironic about a placed named after the center of a donut.

Well, here is why:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1620806/20090904/story.jhtml

It is all in the marketing people. Now Susan Boyle will get her headlines, that she is outselling Carrie, Kris, Adam and Leona Lewis.

This just gives me more reason to not like Susan Boyle. I know that sounds harsh, and probably not fair, considering the situation she’s in and a lot not being up to her, but I had a problem with her ever since she first became such a sensation. She just does not impress me. Besides the frumpy backstory, she has sung, what 2 songs total, one of which sucked at the beginning, and that is all she needs to be the biggest phenomenon ever? Then she has next to no stage presence on top of that. I’m sorry, I just have some issues with her whole “fame” thing.

Very random ‘“ but I just had to point out the awesomeness of performing at the Dunkin’ Donuts Center

There’s something meta-ironic about a placed named after the center of a donut.

LOL! I didn’t even pick up on that! That is BRILLIANT!

Very random ‘“ but I just had to point out the awesomeness of performing at the Dunkin’ Donuts Center

There’s something meta-ironic about a placed named after the center of a donut.

They should’ve just gone with Dunkin’ Donuts Hole and been done with it.

Mary102, totally with ya on the Susan Boyle thing. Do not get that AT ALL. If she sells big here in the US, I will be very disappointed in my fellow Americans.

plus they’re better looking

LOL, I think that’s the problem.

P.S. I agree that the drop date for Adam may be better than for Kris.

Imo it is to early to say that because I don’t think all release dates are set yet.

i wonder if Robbie’s difficulties to make it in the USA, could be an indication that solo man pop acts have difficulties to break in the market?

amazon uk is also listing a nov 17 release date for rihanna. she’s not a big album seller, but then again, her star has magnified since her last album so it’ll be interesting to see how she does.

also, there’s a very strong rumor around the internet that alicia keys is planning a late november release. the 17th’s looking crowded as heck, so i wouldn’t be surprised to see it drop on the 24th. in any event, ms. keys will slay them all. she’s a monster album-seller.

also, i guess i’m one of the few that is less concerned with first week sales. if they’re fantastic, great, but it’s sort of meaningless if it drops something like 75% in the second week, which idol albums are prone to since they’re always so frontloaded (with the hardcore idol fans rushing out to buy it).

I don’t understand the Susan Boyle phenomenon. To me, she is a mediocre singer the most. I think the counter-stereotype thinking pushes her to her recent height.

LOL, Tony and halfie (I didn’t get that initially…or until you all pointed it out ).

I could give a damn if Adam’s album goes to #1 (tho that would be really cool). I just want a solid album that gets good airplay and results in lots of TV and radio appearances and an awesome tour. That is all. And boy, I hope his track for 2012 gets released (not just for the tie-in for the album and for the exposure, but b/c I crave new music!). I assume we’ll get a pre-order for Adam’s album from iTunes (was there one for Archie’s?).

Susan Boyle…feh. One hit wonder, I predict.

From Jim Cantiello….

jambajim So You Think You Can Dance in 60 Seconds has hit a wrinkle. So tell my boss @rkroft if you want me to recap #SYTYCD this fall. RT please!
about 3 hours ago from web

Also, the Grammys have been relocated to Adam’s apartment so he doesn’t have to make the trip to pick up his 15 awards.

Adam will have moved to his house in the hills by then! Maybe they can have the after-party there.

And boy, I hope his track for 2012 gets released (not just for the tie-in for the album and for the exposure, but b/c I crave new music!)

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Did I miss anything? I don’t remember any confirmation that Adam’s song is selected for 2012.

i wonder if Robbie’s difficulties to make it in the USA, could be an indication that solo man pop acts have difficulties to break in the market?

There could actually be some thruth to this. What other male pop act is there? Justin Timberlake? Or maybe there is just something in his sound.

There is something about Robbie that’s so very Brittish to me…

She just does not impress me. Besides the frumpy backstory, she has sung, what 2 songs total, one of which sucked at the beginning, and that is all she needs to be the biggest phenomenon ever? Then she has next to no stage presence on top of that. I’m sorry, I just have some issues with her whole ‘fame’  thing.

Wordy McWord. Yeah, Susan Boyle, Britain’s Got Talent, America’s Got Talent. Get rid of them all! My friends chide me for watching AI but jeez, have y’all seen those shows? They make AI look high brow. Who’s watching those shows, I ask? Sorry, pet peeve.

Did I miss anything? I don’t remember any confirmation that Adam’s song is selected for 2012.

Since when is actual confirmation of anything a prerequisite for lengthy debate around here??

Adam looks HOT in that pic from his official site. FINALLY. I love that the reporter got into the pic with Adam (even tho he didn’t want to) and admitted that he only watched the show one time. Lucky guy; gets a pic with Adam and isn’t even a fan!

My thought exactly! It’s like the people who get After Show passes just because their father knows somebody or something.

And the adamofficial.com pic does look great! And yea for photo shoots pics!

Someone just this morning, posted the differences in the pre-orders for the Simon Cowell related peeps at Amazon. The poster wondered why Susan Boyle’s CD was available for pre-order for $9.99, while Kris’ is $13.98, and Adam’s isn’t yet available.

Well, here is why:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1620806/20090904/story.jhtml

It is all in the marketing people. Now Susan Boyle will get her headlines, that she is outselling Carrie, Kris, Adam and Leona Lewis.

That was me — and the question I raised wasn’t about Susan Boyle — it was about why anyone would buy Kris’ album on pre-sale because Amazon is selling Kris’ CD at full retail price. And we all know that Wal-Mart, Best Buy etc. will have it at a discount when it’s released. I still don’t know why they didn’t put Kris’ pre-sale at $11.98 discount.

Regarding Susan Boyle, she will most likely be #1 the w/o 11/24. Lil Wayne’s new album, Rebirt, is not good and it is a rock album. Adam may beat Lil Wayne on the Rock Chart.

For the most part, no one is comparing Susan to AI Alums. These are the headlines they wanted for Susan Boyle:

Susan Boyle Already Bigger Than Whitney Houston, New Moon & the Beatles E!Online

More of the same:

Disco de estreia de Susan Boyle desbanca Whitney Houston e BeatlesO Globo

Morning Roundup: Michael Jackson Laid To Rest; Susan Boyle Climbs Amazon; Don Imus Signs With Fox Wall Street Journal

Dream start for Susan Boyle album Guardian UK

And there are over 100 more already …

She just does not impress me. Besides the frumpy backstory, she has sung, what 2 songs total, one of which sucked at the beginning, and that is all she needs to be the biggest phenomenon ever?

I agree with you there. Two songs + frumpiness. Oh, and Simon Cowell’s backing. At this point Simon is probably asking Adam who? He may even be asking Leona who?

With all of our conversations here about auto-tune, both the dominance of use regardless of the singer’s ability and the fact that an increasingly number of people are not able to tell when it is being used, I thought that folks would be interested in a new iPhone app out which auto-tunes your voice to sing along with T-Pain. Here is the link and video about it: http://mashable.com/2009/09/04/iphone-auto-tune/

When people actually prefer the robotic tone of a tweeked singer’s voice to the real thing, what is that saying about our culture and humanity? The question needs to be asked.

I still think Susan Boyle’s sales potential is more of a wild card than any kind of guarantee. Can she sustain those pre-sale numbers until November? Keep in mind, Amazon is only 10% of the market and probably a different demographic, than say I Tunes.

P.S. Adam isn’t up for pre-sale yet.

Wordy McWord. Yeah, Susan Boyle, Britain’s Got Talent, America’s Got Talent. Get rid of them all! My friends chide me for watching AI but jeez, have y’all seen those shows? They make AI look high brow. Who’s watching those shows, I ask? Sorry, pet peeve.

I was a HUGE defender of the guys on AI throughout the whole Susan Boyle thing in the spring. They have to go through a much more rigorous process to actually prove their stuff – choosing new songs week after week, insane schedules, etc. They didn’t exactly seem to have such a strenuous process on BGT. And I agree that the standards are no where near what they are on AI.

She just does not impress me. Besides the frumpy backstory, she has sung, what 2 songs total, one of which sucked at the beginning, and that is all she needs to be the biggest phenomenon ever? Then she has next to no stage presence on top of that. I’m sorry, I just have some issues with her whole ‘fame’  thing.

^^THIS TOTALLY (although I’m lovin’ “Wordy McWord.”) I enjoyed the SB (eek, my initials), okay, SuBo thing for about five minutes. It was a great moment, but that was it. I was kind of rooting for her in the finals (because she’s the only one I had heard of), but the performance was cringe-inducing through much of it.

I just don’t get the sustained interest. And show tunes? Wha? But whatevs, I’m not going to attempt to play this prediction game because bottom line, I have NO IDEA how it’s all going to shake out.

Man, we will have bludgeoned every possible theory to death, save for the catastrophic end of the world (dramatized for us by the Sony Pictures fall release “2012″), come November.

I feel the same way about Susan Boyle .. to me she’s more of a circus side show act (like a lot of the people selected from shows like AGT and BGT).

Like has been mentioned she has only sung one song well (if you like that kind of thing although I think she was “distictly average”) .. I mean they’ve even called the bloody album “I Dreamed A Dream” .. how original

It just annoys me that there have been some decent acts produced on X factor who haven’t been launched internationally even though they have proved their ability week in week out on the show and with successful UK album releases and tours .. and then you get some one like Susan Boyle who because of the novelty factor of her appearance versus voice she get’s all this promo.

But I guess it just goes to prove that marketing can have a lot more to do with fame than talent.

Although I agree that Subo will be a one hit wonder with this album .. she can’t sustain the kind of popularity she has ….. afterall by all accounts the UK Tour of BGT must have been a nightmare to deal with what with her pulling out of certain shows (for whatever reason .. it doesn’t exactly bode well for future live TV appearances or gigs)

The most interesting part to the Susan Boyle phenomenon is she didn’t even win AGT.

Man, I was ready to strap on the ol’ feed bag and go get some breakfast till all this talk about SuBo sprang up. Now I’m totally off my feed. Thanks, guys. Thanks a lot.

Oh, and I’m SO glad AO has gone with a new photo – HOT!!

And LOL to the person who said, “I wonder if the person who stood in for the picture isn’t going to get any more residuals.” Sorry, I don’t want to risk going back, or I may lose this page entirely.

I am going to miss the term Glampire though …

Since when is actual confirmation of anything a prerequisite for lengthy debate around here??

No, I meant I *hope* it gets released. I know it hasn’t been confirmed yet. I’m not *that* much of a Glambert.

I can not wait for part 3 of allison’s interview..that’s when she talks about backstage during her idol run )

The most interesting part to the Susan Boyle phenomenon is she didn’t even win AGT.

Good thing iluvadamlambert had to go to class. She might have hyperventilated fearing comparisons.

I am thinking that allison’s album will be released on Nov. 10th

So Adam’s track on the 2012 OST isn’t the confirmed single?

I can not wait for part 3 of allison’s interview..that’s when she talks about backstage during her idol run

Yeah, and is it wrong of me to want to read about that to see what she has to say about meeting Adam?

C’mon, I know y’all were thinkin’ it… I’m just the messenger.

Tony
September 4, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Wow. The predictions around here are really low. Let’s be realistic, people! Not only will Adam debut at #1, but will probably remain there for several weeks/months. I’m seeing his first week someone around 1.7 million. He’ll reach diamond within 6 months.

Also, the Grammys have been relocated to Adam’s apartment so he doesn’t have to make the trip to pick up his 15 awards.

THIS!

Q3, if you scroll to the bottom of the MTV article about Boyle, that is where Carrie, Kris, Adam and Leona are mentioned.

It will be interesting to see what price they attach to Adam’s CD at Amazon, when they finally open up the pre-orders.

Cheetara86
September 4, 2009 at 2:15 pm
I am thinking that allison’s album will be released on Nov. 10th

I agree. That one doesn’t look too tough, so far.

Susan Boyle is nice and a decent singer with a touching backstory, but she’s about as relevant as a Christmas card…unlike Adam

Did I miss anything? I don’t remember any confirmation that Adam’s song is selected for 2012.

There is no official confirmation that it will be in the film BUT if it was not going to be in the film, someone — probably Adam himself — would have said something about it because there are over 1,000 google news reports on the subject.

We know that:
Adam recorded a song for 2012. Adam has confirmed this. He also said it was not for the album.

Roland Emmerich heard it.

Brian May heard it and thought it would be a #1 hit, stunning, etc.

Meatloaf’s band played the music for the recording session and that John Miceli, the drummer, loved the song.

It is a finished recording and not a demo.

There are UNCONFIRMED reports that:

Adam’s 2012 song will be over the end credits as the first song.

That Rolland Emmerich, Meatloaf and Rob Cavallo were impressed with the recording.

I like to read what allison really felt about the judges

Hated the Glampire “official” picture and even more the Eddie Munster Young Hollywood pictures. And..I keep seeing them pop up (the YH) in various news articles. They are just totally cringeworthy and if I were Adam, I would hunt them all down and have a Burning pic day. I love Adam and think he is drop dead gorgeous and the camera loves him…but WTF happened on YH night.

Young Hollywood pictures. And..I keep seeing them pop up (the YH) in various news articles.

We just need to get him onto another red carpet ASAP where tons of media outlets are represented and they can freshen up their photo archives. I wonder if it’s too much to expect that Fox will drag him and/or Kris to the Emmys, since the show as a whole is nominated for something… since 19 still owns them, it might be a nice pre-CD publicity move…

Vada: Q3, if you scroll to the bottom of the MTV article about Boyle, that is where Carrie, Kris, Adam and Leona are mentioned.

I saw that but look at the rest of the press — from around the world. The focus is about Susan beating The Beattles and Whitney right now vs. the other reality TV celebrities. And, although I love AI, “Bigger than Whitney and The Beattles” is a better headline than “Bigger than Carrie Underwood, Adam, Kris, etc.”

To me, she is the “piano cat” of singers. (And I don’t think that comparison is fair to the piano cat.) But there is no denying that she her #1 pre-sale is the #1 album on Amazon in the UK and the US. Her YouTube videos have over 150 million views.

Finally, I would be happy is anyone beats SuBo on her CD release. But that will be really difficult.

I still think Susan Boyle’s sales potential is more of a wild card than any kind of guarantee. Can she sustain those pre-sale numbers until November? Keep in mind, Amazon is only 10% of the market and probably a different demographic, than say I Tunes.

Susan may be a big name in the UK but in the US? It think it would be a case of “Susan who?”.

I wonder if it’s too much to expect that Fox will drag him and/or Kris to the Emmys, since the show as a whole is nominated for something’ ¦ since 19 still owns them, it might be a nice pre-CD publicity move’ ¦

This would be wonderful. I keep hoping the same thing because AI may really have a chance to win this year. Isn’t it up for “Best Reality Show” ???

Well, Dallas, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again … not all the YH pics were bad IMO. Actually, one of my favorite all-time pictures of Adam is when he’s holding his award and laughing. It is stunning.

Also the one used in yesterday’s OK magazine isn’t bad either. The one they used in People was criminal, however. No, I don’t particularly like his hair really short on the sides and the pseudo faux hawk, but with Adam, I figure just go with it. There is going to be hair, makeup and wardrobe that I don’t like (see Michelin Man/Gumby), but I guess that’s the life of an adamtard.

I REALLY don’t expect Susan Boyle to open at #1. I think 19 manipulated the pre-sales dates and prices to give her a big headline and a great boost. It will make more people pre-order her CD for sure.

But, in no way, do I expect that to hold through November. Especially, when the others have hit songs climbing the radio charts.

I don’t really see AI bringing Kris or Adam to the Emmys. Why would they know when they never have before? Plus does AI even have a shot at winning? Amazing Race wins every time. I doubt that has suddenly changed.

Also Allison Iraheta was spotted at the David Burke’s Primehouse inside The James Hotel ”

I have been there and its definitely not a cheap place

Well, Dallas, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Not all the YH pics were bad. Actually, one of my favorite all-time pictures of Adam is when he’s holding his award and laughing. It is stunning.

Very true. The indoor shots were far superior to the outdoor shots. I think the outfit may have been the worst part, since it was a grab-bag of unrelated bits and pieces from previous AI costumes. Hopefully, he can afford something new and previously unseen this time, like maybe something similar to those outfits from that recent photo shoot (hey, the Sebree ones, NOT the Polar Expedition/pile o’ dog poo ones!).

I don’t understand the Susan Boyle phenomenon. To me, she is a mediocre singer the most. I think the counter-stereotype thinking pushes her to her recent height.

Yes, she’s a continuation of the “Paul Potts phenomenon”. A dumpy little person walks on stage, the judges snicker, and then the person starts singing and does better than everyone expected. It’s a great TV moment — very unexpected, very emotional, the classic “everyman does good” scenario”. But the truth is that neither Potts nor Boyle is really that talented (although I’d give Potts the edge), and I doubt either can sustain a long-term career. I think Susan Boyle in particular is at best a one-hit wonder — I think sales for her first CD will be driven by emotional support and interest in her “story”, but after that everyone will move on.

I saw that but look at the rest of the press ‘” from around the world. The focus is about Susan beating The Beattles and Whitney right now vs. the other reality TV celebrities.

This is just the first wave of publicity for her. This wave has her bigger than the Beatles and Whitney Houston. The next wave will have her trouncing every reality show contestant of every nation on earth especially Adam since he has the misfortune of going head to head with her.

Looking at the Amazon charts, I just noticed that Season 8 Favorites is classified as Karaoke. All the other top selling albums classified here are real Karaoke recordings.

Bestsellers in Music
Any Category > Music > Miscellaneous > Karaoke
The most popular items in Karaoke. Updated hourly.

#11. Season 8 ~ American Idol (Artist)

Note: it is #3,897 in all Music sales.

So Nov 24: its Lambert vs. Boyle vs Lil Wayne

Susan M …
Also the one used in yesterday’s OK magazine isn’t bad either. The one they used in People was criminal, however

I think it is because that is the one that crops up periodically. I agree the OK Mag pic wasn’t bad at all. I thought I had seen every picture of him ever made, but not sure about the one you refer to holding the award …stunning, etc. You don’t have a link to it do you? Would love to see it.

I think one reason I hate the YH picture is for some reason his coloring is bad and it seemed to exaggerate a problem with his complexion. I saw him up close at the Dallas concert and frankly, his complexion is not bad at all. He is truly stunning up close.

Oh, and I am sticking to my delusional belief that the Gumby photo was a cruel practical joke on his fans.

Cheetara86
September 4, 2009 at 2:46 pm
So Nov 24: its Lambert vs. Boyle vs Lil Wayne

That’s got an episode of MTV’s Celebrity Deathmatch written all over it!

Instead of ropes around the ring they can use feather boas! Adam for the pin and knockout dildo-kick! (Wayne’s dildo just got Lil-er.)

tiger92
September 4, 2009 at 2:04 pm
The most interesting part to the Susan Boyle phenomenon is she didn’t even win AGT.

The whole reason AI works is it touches people heart with older music people grew up with.The young kids get to hear real music not the bullshit of today.Susan boyle did that world wide and will sell big world wide.Does it really matter if its a 1 album wonder.I THINK NOT.

Lil Wayne would totally bite someone. Can’t you see it?

Of the three, I’m going to go with Lil Wayne on dis one.

Yeah, and is it wrong of me to want to read about that to see what she has to say about meeting Adam?

C’mon, I know y’all were thinkin’ it’ ¦ I’m just the messenger.

No, I’ll admit it too Heck, most of what I read from the other idols is to find out if they mention Adam (e.g. twitter, interviews, etc.)

MTV celebrity death match!!! Anthrogeek you kill me

Yes, she’s a continuation of the ‘Paul Potts phenomenon’ .

Who?

I predict Lil Wayne taking the #1 spot…He’s HUGE right now…biggest selling rapper right now

just hilarious tweet from allison:

Best idea i’ve ever heard.. I’ll take it!!
about 2 hours ago from TwitterFon

allison4realzzz # RT @champbear08: @Allison4Realzzz dude, you could always wear diapers with little kool-aid men on them to bed!.. That has to be the about 4 hours ago from TwitterFon

#
Must…get..up…so..sleepy..but.. Have.. To……… Goo..Peeeeeeeeeeeeeee…urrrghhhhhh

Susan Boyle….The All world feel good story that will be perpetuated by the news media until another all world feel good story takes it’s place. Yup, she is going to sell a ton of albums because people mistakenly think that will keep her in the money…not realizing that her record label and dear Simon Cowel will reap most of the financial benefits. You know the old adage: there is a sucker born every minute.

Men as pop stars….maybe we haven’t had a lot lately because there haven’t been many out there….most of the poppy guys have tended to group up (less stressful that way) or we like to call them something else like singer/songwriters or soft rock or rocker guys. Once upon a time being a male pop star was praise indeed, now it doesn’t seem to carry that same kind of cred. You know, like the difference between being a star jock or a member of the glee club.

Album sales…..The last thing I want is for the uber invested fan base of any Idol to exalt the Idol to #1 out of the gate and then to watch the numbers fall off of the charts when very few outside of the AI bubble buy their album. I’d rather they be talked about for weeks on end with their ability to hang on to a top 10 or top 20 placement as they climb to gold and platinum numbers…rather than get a bunch of press in one dose and then have everyone forget about them.

Lastly…..I’m an anglified music snob. I’ve really liked a lot of the singers who have come from the British Isles, much more than homegrown American singers. Couldn’t tell you why…but if I look at what I listen to it is probably 60-40 with the Brits leading the way. Maybe I like Adam so much because he reminds me of the Brits and because he seems to like what has been played and what is played across the pond.

By the way…thanks Anthrogeek…I’ll never get tired of your Avatar.

http://www.mensfashiondeals.com/2009/08/american-idol-fashion.html hope this hasn’t been shown yet but Go Vote! (ps… I voted for Adam), but pick who you think is the best dressed idol. (clay is catching up to Adam, yuck!)

This is just the first wave of publicity for her. The next wave will have her trouncing every reality show contestant of every nation on earth especially Adam since he has to go head to head with her.

I agree. But they’ll play the #1 album for all it’s worth first.

Frankly, I just want Adam, Kris and Allison to sell well, get decent reviews and all hit the Billboard Top 10. And have sustained careers. If they do better than that, great. But I just want them all to get to do multiple albums.

Can anyone direct me to the instructions on how to load an Avatar? I’m sure it has been discussed but I missed it I guess.

Lil Wayne would totally bite someone. Can’t you see it?

Of the three, I’m going to go with Lil Wayne on dis one.

Ah, yes. But then Susan would feign “exhaustion” and get taken out of the ring for treatment while Adam and LW battled each other bloody. Then she would come back and hit an auto-tuned High C to shatter their eardrums and take the crown.

OMG!! Totally forgot about MTV celebrity death match! Absolutely freakin’ perfect. MUST CREATE AND PUT ON YOUTUBE!!

No, halfie , the autotuned C would make their little clay heads explode!!

Frankly, I just want Adam, Kris and Allison to sell well, get decent reviews and all hit the Billboard Top 10. And have sustained careers. If they do better than that, great. But I just want them all to get to do multiple albums.

Yes please…I think they should strive to sell 100,000-200,000 in their first week…their new artists in a tough market.

If their singles do great..they’ll be fine

Dallas, you have to sign up at gravatar.com to get one. Make sure you use the same email address there as you use here.

http://www.mensfashiondeals.com/2009/08/american-idol-fashion.html hope this hasn’t been shown yet but Go Vote! (ps’ ¦ I voted for Adam), but pick who you think is the best dressed idol. (clay is catching up to Adam, yuck!)

And there’s that same jacket worn to the sushi joint last night….

http://www.mensfashiondeals.com/2009/08/american-idol-fashion.html hope this hasn’t been shown yet but Go Vote! (ps’ ¦ I voted for Adam), but pick who you think is the best dressed idol. (clay is catching up to Adam, yuck!)

Archie beating Adam?! Hell to the no on that one!

And Deathmatch = WIN!!!! Hilarity.

Ah, yes. But then Susan would feign ‘exhaustion’  and get taken out of the ring for treatment while Adam and LW battled each other bloody. Then she would come back and hit an auto-tuned High C to shatter their eardrums and take the crown.

LMAO that is EXACTLY how it would go. I loved Celebrity Death Match. So snarky and ridiculous.

lol why would Adam win… he dresses terribly.. I voted for Ryan.

I just got around to reading the LA Times article on Allison. Both parts. And I find it strange that there are zero comments, even for part one.

Thank you alison8701 !!!

Archie beating Adam?! Hell to the no on that one!

I’m going with Adam but have to admit Archie does look darn cute in that photo.

I predict Lil Wayne taking the #1 spot’ ¦He’s HUGE right now’ ¦biggest selling rapper right now

Lil Wayne’s new album — much delayed and may not even be released on 11/24/09 — is a rock album. It has been speculated that the album may be shelved due to less than positive feedback from fans and the media, as well as the lead single, “Prom Queen,” having quickly fallen off of the charts shortly after entry. The buzz on this album is not good.

His next urban-hip hop album, The Carter IV, will be released in 2010 and should be a big seller.

The celebrity death match on 11/24/09 — Adam vs. Susan Boyle

I just got around to reading the LA Times article on Allison. Both parts. And I find it strange that there are zero comments, even for part one.

You have to have your comments looked at by the moderator..they have to be approved…Itb took like a week for any comments for kris’s interview to show up

I wonder if it’s too much to expect that Fox will drag him and/or Kris to the Emmys, since the show as a whole is nominated for something’ ¦ since 19 still owns them, it might be a nice pre-CD publicity move’ ¦

Isn’t the show “as a whole” nominated every year? Why is this year any different?

I REALLY don’t expect Susan Boyle to open at #1. I think 19 manipulated the pre-sales dates and prices to give her a big headline and a great boost. It will make more people pre-order her CD for sure.

Why would 19 care to give Susan Boyle good headlines or good sales? They have zero to do with her career. Simon does not equal 19.

There’s something meta-ironic about a place named after the center of a donut.

Sweet.

And there will be more than the sound of one hand clapping.

Gotta say: Impressively never heard before line, halfie

Though we can’t overlook two things:

- Most Dunkin Donuts are filled. So the Dunkin Donut Center could be chocolatey, “kreme”, lemon, or some apple-of-the-month concoction.

- They sell the “holes” as “Munchkins”‘.

Wonder if there is a Dunkin Donut concession inside the Dunkin Donut Center? Maybe they’ll have Idol-y ones. And are the meet & greets and dressing rooms stocked with free ones? Wonder which Idol will tweet first with some donutty reference?

Yeah, but some fans will buy anything from their fave.. so “Young Mula, baby” may do well on principle.

tiger92
September 4, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Yes, she’s a continuation of the ‘Paul Potts phenomenon’ .

Who?

Paul Potts won BGT in 2007. He was a cell phone salesman from Wales. A shy, dumpy little guy who said that he wanted to sing opera. The judges snickered at him, and then he sang “Nessun Dorma” and everyone cheered. Just like Susan Boyle … except he actually won the top prize, and I assume he’s been kissed since he is married
Same script over and over, and the audience keeps falling for it. Gotta love Simon Cowell, the PT Barnum of our times (as Barnum said, “there’s a sucker born every minute”).

So, who’s in the ring for 11/17? My money is on the soundtrack from GLEE.

No, halfie , the autotuned C would make their little clay heads explode!!

Sure, sure. See if I keep looking for steel-toed platforms for your next site visit.

http://www.mensfashiondeals.com/2009/08/american-idol-fashion.html hope this hasn’t been shown yet but Go Vote! (ps’ ¦ I voted for Adam), but pick who you think is the best dressed idol. (clay is catching up to Adam, yuck!)

The poll has David Archuleta as one of the contestants. I am sure every tween in the idol universe is now on that site voting for him…come on, we all know that no one else has a chance up against his fanitic fans.

I believe if Allison releases her album on the 10th, her only competition is like Nelly

Wonder which Idol will tweet first with some donutty reference?

Scott. Is there really any doubt?

http://www.mensfashiondeals.com/2009/08/american-idol-fashion.html About this.. Archie does dress fashionably, but Adam has more fashion sense almost all of his interviews include comments about what he gets to wear. Go ADAM!

The poll has David Archuleta Adam Lambert as one of the contestants. I am sure every tween woman ever in the idol universe is now on that site voting for him’ ¦come on, we all know that no one else has a chance up against his fanatic craaazy fans.

OK, only going to beg once – Amazon.com is still selling dogfighting videos – so if you care about dogs, please find somewhere else to buy your Idol’s CDs! I use them to look up stuff, then buy elsewhere.

alison, still on that del button high….

And I still can’t type worth $%&T!

I have a question concerning Lil Wayne, don’t know much about him. Listened to Prom Queen and I was wondering if he, like Kanye, can’t sing? Or does he just like super auto tuned vocals?

You have to have your comments looked at by the moderator..they have to be approved’ ¦Itb took like a week for any comments for kris’s interview to show up

Comments on Adam’s interviews showed sooner than a week, like the next day after the interviews were posted.

Itb took like a week for any comments for kris’s interview to show up

wow, Adam’s were cleared within hours. Unless it was late night. Then it was the next morning.

Q3
September 4, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Looking at the Amazon charts, I just noticed that Season 8 Favorites is classified as Karaoke. All the other top selling albums classified here are real Karaoke recordings.

Bestsellers in Music
Any Category > Music > Miscellaneous > Karaoke
The most popular items in Karaoke. Updated hourly.

#11. Season 8 ~ American Idol (Artist)

Note: it is #3,897 in all Music sales.

Maybe someone said this already, but the Season 8 compilation was only sold through Walmart. Wouldn’t that figure you’re seeing be the copies sold through Amazon Associates (i.e. used copies or resales)?

Alison8701: TRUE, TRUE…..

Trina
September 4, 2009 at 3:03 pm
I wonder if it’s too much to expect that Fox will drag him and/or Kris to the Emmys, since the show as a whole is nominated for something’ ¦ since 19 still owns them, it might be a nice pre-CD publicity move’ ¦

Isn’t the show ‘as a whole’  nominated every year? Why is this year any different?

I was thinking that I heard that this year they added a new slot and AI was nominated in the new slot or whatever you call it. Best Reality Show – Competition maybe?

OK, so am I being too much of a fantard to think that the Adam Phenomenon (OR the Gay Guyliner Guy vs Guy Next Door hate this) could give AI the edge this year?

Who else relases on the 10th? Nelly?

alison, still on that del button high’ ¦.

And I still can’t type worth $%&T!

It’s just so fun!

wow, Adam’s were cleared within hours. Unless it was late night. Then it was the next morning.

Yeah, I know several people commented on Allison’s interview and the comments have not shown up yet…

I have a question concerning Lil Wayne, don’t know much about him. Listened to Prom Queen and I was wondering if he, like Kanye, can’t sing? Or does he just like super auto tuned vocals?

He really can’t sing..but that does not matter in Hip hop…that’s the one genre where being a good singer does not help or hurt you….As long as you can rap.

@Dallas, here you go. I didn’t think I was going to be able to do that. It was saved on my phone, but I tell you, this site makes it so you get more and more technologically creative.

http://i40.tinypic.com/sv6n4k.jpg

Who else relases on the 10th? Nelly?

Yes, I believe only Nelly right now..but I will check

I have a question concerning Lil Wayne, don’t know much about him. Listened to Prom Queen and I was wondering if he, like Kanye, can’t sing? Or does he just like super auto tuned vocals?

Lil Wayne isn’t a singer. He’s a rapper.

Yeah, and is it wrong of me to want to read about that to see what she has to say about meeting Adam?

C’mon, I know y’all were thinkin’ it’ ¦ I’m just the messenger.

Not really. I’m mostly interested in what Allison has to say about Allison. I think we read enough about Adam as it is.

OK, so am I being too much of a fantard to think that the Adam Phenomenon (OR the Gay Guyliner Guy vs Guy Next Door hate this) could give AI the edge this year

Naw, Amazing Race will win again

Wordy McWord. Yeah, Susan Boyle, Britain’s Got Talent, America’s Got Talent. Get rid of them all! My friends chide me for watching AI but jeez, have y’all seen those shows? They make AI look high brow. Who’s watching those shows, I ask?

Watching AGT and BGT make you lose IQ points. And steals away any sexy mojo. True fax.

Lil Wayne isn’t a singer. He’s a rapper.

So why the hell does he want to do a rock album? Rock dudes sing.

About this.. Archie does dress fashionably, but Adam has more fashion sense almost all of his interviews include comments about what he gets to wear. Go ADAM!

Yes – imo Adam has had more hits and misses than the others, fashion-wise, but overall he has a VERY strong sense of style, as in, like, Hollywood-savvy style. Not just khakis and a nice shirt-bland style. He takes those risks, which is why I give the edge to him over the “safer” Archuletta.

Susan Boyle? Who is buying that.. ugh..

Scott. Is there really any doubt?

Or Kris, with some of his odd free-form verse: “Dunkin’ Donuts make my tummy grin and dance the merenge.”

TBH, Dunkin’ Donuts sound a little plebian for Scott’s taste, what with the foie gras and all.

So why the hell does he want to do a rock album? Rock dudes sing.

Well its more of a blend of Rock/Hip hop….but, good or bad reviews..he will sell..Hip Hop is a genre that sells HUGE, especially on the first week.

Like Lil wayne sold 1 million copies in one week on his last album, Eminem sold like 600,000 during his first week

Thanks for the tip Vada! i just completed my album! Squirrely, thanks too- I’ll be listening to that song as soon as I sync my ipod.

OK, so am I being too much of a fantard to think that the Adam Phenomenon (OR the Gay Guyliner Guy vs Guy Next Door hate this) could give AI the edge this year

Naw, Amazing Race will win again

I would have agreed with you any other year, but the fact that AI’s director got nominated for Best Director makes me think that AI has finally resorted to just mass bribing. These fools couldn’t end a show on time if their and their families’ lives depended on it. Suckity Suck Suck, they middle name is AI directors and producers. Thus, I’m predicting that AI may in fact win the big prize this year — even though they do not deserve it in the slightest — and it would have nothing to do with Adam, but just $$$.

The young kids get to hear real music not the bullshit of today.Susan boyle did that world wide and will sell big world wide.

The young kids are buying SuBo. Highly doubt it. And “real music not the bullshit of today”, lol.

Self deleted. Off topic.

Gah. Idly (all puns intended) wondering how much work it would *really* be to re-enact Deathmatch!!

DIdn’t Kanye sell pretty bad on his 808 and heartbreak where he tried to sing? I am sure Lil Wayne will do fantastic but it’s pretty embarassing when they try and do something they really aren’t good at.

Ah, yes. But then Susan would feign ‘exhaustion’  and get taken out of the ring for treatment while Adam and LW battled each other bloody. Then she would come back and hit an auto-tuned High C to shatter their eardrums and take the crown.

How about she stops plucking for a few days and just smothers them both with her unfeasibly bushy brows

http://www.mensfashiondeals.com/2009/08/american-idol-fashion.html hope this hasn’t been shown yet but Go Vote! (ps’ ¦ I voted for Adam), but pick who you think is the best dressed idol. (clay is catching up to Adam, yuck!)

Is it me or does Kris look like Archie in that photo at first glance? I had to do a double take to figure out who it was. When I was on there Daughtry had 0%, but his scale bar was larger than those with 1 or 2%

Oh and LULZ to the Celebrity Death Match, particularly SuBo feigning exhaustion and having to drop out.

OK, only going to beg once ‘“ Amazon.com is still selling dogfighting videos ‘“

Had no idea. Just looked it up. Strong letter now.

OK, so am I being too much of a fantard to think that the Adam Phenomenon (OR the Gay Guyliner Guy vs Guy Next Door hate this) could give AI the edge this year

Naw, Amazing Race will win again

Second that. Even as an AI fan I don’t think it really deserves to win – especially not this season. To me, it has nothing to do with the actual contestants, but with the quality and production values of the show. AI got sloppy this year, in terms of production (running over time, stupid gimmicks like the 4th judge (still don’t like), elimination shows that were pointless and lasted 45 minutes too long, plus it introduced us to NoBo.

AI’s consolation prize will be being the biggest show on tv.

Or Kris, with some of his odd free-form verse: ‘Dunkin’ Donuts make my tummy grin and dance the merenge.’ 

Haha. As long as he doesn’t mix the donuts with another dozen plums, or whatever.

TBH, Dunkin’ Donuts sound a little plebian for Scott’s taste, what with the foie gras and all.

You’re right, of course, tamalepie but I could still see Scott tweeting something like this:

Getting psyched for Dunkin’ Donuts center tonight, Providence! (Yumm, that makes me hungry for a flourless chocolate layer cake with raspberry reduction sauce).

I have a question concerning Lil Wayne, don’t know much about him. Listened to Prom Queen and I was wondering if he, like Kanye, can’t sing? Or does he just like super auto tuned vocals?

Errrr……..he’s a rapper . And yes, Kanyecan’t sing, he’s mainly a hip hop artist who would whoop the ass of any idol contestant who ever has the misfortune of releasing at the same time as him…despite his non-existent singing abilities. I would buy kanye’s single 5 times faster than I would any idol contestant……………….true fax!

Gah. Idly (all puns intended) wondering how much work it would *really* be to re-enact Deathmatch!!

Hoppers, I tried to say this before but my comment got lost in cyberspace… I say go for it, just post the link to it when you’re done! C’mon, you know you want to! If I had any ‘shkills’, I’d do it.

They should have just combined Kris and Archie on the menswear poll. I mean the two of them seem to share the same clothes.

Susan M.
September 4, 2009 at 3:16 pm
@Dallas, here you go. I didn’t think I was going to be able to do that. It was saved on my phone, but I tell you, this site makes it so you get more and more technologically creative.

http://i40.tinypic.com/sv6n4k.jpg

Awwwwwe…he is so open, fresh, real…good picture. BUT I will say that it is sort of a side shot which is a better angle of the hideous frontal assault of the faux hawk. Thank you SusanM.

Is it me or does Kris look like Archie in that photo at first glance? I had to do a double take to figure out who it was.

Haha, Susan M! I thought that WAS Archie! I wondered why he got two pics and the rest got one – and Kris got none!

Part 3 of Allison’s interview is up.

Is it me or does Kris look like Archie in that photo at first glance?

LOL! You are SO right, cuz you know, when I first looked at it, I was like, why do they have 2 pics of Archie there? Then, I thought “hey, they put everyone up there except Kris!” And then I put 2 and 2 together and realized the 2nd pic was Kris. Wow! Scary. Just like that Archie-doppleganger on SYTYCD this season (Jonathan, I think?)

I only heard Susan Boyle sing that one song, but it sounded incredible to me and I’ll buy the song on itunes if I can. She didn’t sound mediocre to me. Seriously, I’d rather someone like her who can really sing to be selling millions of cds instead of someone like Justin Timberlake who really can’t sing, or Britney Spears, or FloRida. I question those “phenomenons” more than someone like SB who is a true songbird and also has the rags-to-riches story going for her which inspires people, instead of rappers with their bling and all that crap and lipsinchers making millions by showing their bootie.

Bushy eyebrows is not a big deal. Only in America where everyone is supposed to be plucked, and cloned, to look like barbie dolls Again, give me her over some of what passes for style these days, like pants falling down to people’s knees and heavy heavy tattoos and raunchy rappers gyrating in your face. The dispersions cast on her appearance usually seem to me like a slap against people who are working class, normal every day people who aren’t consumer clones. Sorry but I like real people.

Isn’t the show ‘as a whole’  nominated every year? Why is this year any different?

Yes, it’s nominated and looses to the Amazing Race every year (TAR is the only show to have ever won the category in its history).

What’s different this year? The timing.

I don’t know what the deal was last year, but here is Carrie arriving at the 57th Emmy Awards (2005 the year Season 4 was nominated).

The following year, in 2006, the show was nominated, but the Idols had to be at a concert in Anaheim that same day. That year, the Emmy’s were in August (and the experiment was not a success). The following year, they moved back to September, but the tour didn’t end until September 23rd. The night of the Emmy’s the tour was in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Last year, the Idols were free (tour ended Sept 13 and the Emmy’s were on September 21st), so perhaps last year was the exception. It certainly would seem to be good press to drag their new Idolettes to the event. Maybe the “Emmy Television Moment” nomination will be an extra insentive to find them a ticket.

Second that. Even as an AI fan I don’t think it really deserves to win ‘“ especially not this season. To me, it has nothing to do with the actual contestants, but with the quality and production values of the show. AI got sloppy this year, in terms of production (running over time, stupid gimmicks like the 4th judge (still don’t like), elimination shows that were pointless and lasted 45 minutes too long, plus it introduced us to NoBo.

TRUE!! Although it would just figure that this debacle of a season ends up winning because of the talent of the contestants.

Emmy viewers vote based on one or two sample shows selected from the entire season. Reality shows may be different because voters need to get acclimated to the gist of the show, but still, the voters are usually presented a very narrow sampling. And I believe they are supposed to vote based on what is presented ‘“ Q3 probably knows more about this.

Of course, there will be those voters familiar with the show and aware of all the ways the production blew it this year, but if they pick the right sample reel, you never effing know.

Bushy eyebrows is not a big deal. Only in America where everyone is supposed to be plucked, and cloned, to look like barbie dolls

Anoop are you hearing this?

I would have agreed with you any other year, but the fact that AI’s director got nominated for Best Director makes me think that AI has finally resorted to just mass bribing. These fools couldn’t end a show on time if their and their families’ lives depended on it. Suckity Suck Suck, they middle name is AI directors and producers. Thus, I’m predicting that AI may in fact win the big prize this year ‘” even though they do not deserve it in the slightest ‘” and it would have nothing to do with Adam, but just $$$.

Nah, Amazing Race will win…

Though (is Project Runway nominated this year?) Its either Amazing race or Project runway (if PR is nominated)

It certainly would seem to be good press to drag their new Idolettes to the event. Maybe the ‘Emmy Television Moment’  nomination will be an extra insentive to find them a ticket.

Oh, man – do I dare dream of more Adam on the red carpet moments? That would be awesome (unless he decided to be all experimental again with a repeat of his YHA outfit – though I bet TPTB would keep him a little more reserved for such a high-profile appearance.

Part 3 of Allison’s interview is up.

OH! Time to scan for all Adam references

DIdn’t Kanye sell pretty bad on his 808 and heartbreak where he tried to sing? I am sure Lil Wayne will do fantastic but it’s pretty embarassing when they try and do something they really aren’t good at.

—-

Uh, Kanye’s album 808 & Heartbreak debuted #1 with 450,000 albums sold for the week ending November 30, 2008. His album has since gone platinum. Sure, it was less than half of his album, Graduation, but yeah, he did quite well. Kanye’s album has gone platinum.

So this post at the DigitalDreamDoors forum struck me as funny…

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:49 am Post subject: Adam Lambert Slow Ride…what note is that?

——————————————————————————–

Repeating question above, with link. At 02:11…..?????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGTysnq4Sag

Edit: Sorry, I see answer, Falsetto G#5?

Not funny?
well the link is to the Nassau slow ride with 4 bras and a jock strap thrown on stage and the Xtra-Xtra-Large and Double-Ds Yeah!

serious music question is serious

anthrogeek
September 4, 2009 at 3:31 pm

Gah. Idly (all puns intended) wondering how much work it would *really* be to re-enact Deathmatch!!

Hoppers, I tried to say this before but my comment got lost in cyberspace’ ¦ I say go for it, just post the link to it when you’re done! C’mon, you know you want to! If I had any ‘shkills’, I’d do it.

Hah! My “shkills” are seriously (as in by +10 years) outdated, and was last done with a *film* camera long before the arrival of the toddling one! Although….I DO have several crates of colored clay…and my mom IS complaining that she doesn’t get enough time with the kid…. I wonder how much trouble I would get in using one of the laboratory camera setups for creating an American Idol claymation deathmatch?!!

Emmy viewers vote based on one or two sample shows selected from the entire season. Reality shows may be different because voters need to get acclimated to the gist of the show, but still, the voters are usually presented a very narrow sampling. And I believe they are supposed to vote based on what is presented

Yes, that’s the general rule. The problem with AI is they tend to submit either the final night or one of the performance nights. It’s hard to compete with a show like TAR that actually has story lines and looks wickedly difficult to film (and probably is wickedly difficult to film). A bunch of people singing just looks like a variety show. I’ve long maintained that they need to submit a Hollywood episode because there they are competing on an even footing (though, maybe the voters would reject it because that’s not what the show is all about). They can’t do that this year because the Emmy voters would all stab themselves in the eyeballs before they got to vote because humans can only take so much of Tatiana.

I don’t think it has leaked what episode AI has sent for consideration, but here is what is on offer from the competition:

Amazing Race – Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me – Episode 1401 – a truly hilarious episode (featuring mad, careening wheels of cheese) with a heartwarming ending (until you realize what an epic tool the winner of that episode is).

Dancing with the Stars – Episode 803 – 12 couples foxtrot/samba

Project Runway – Finale, Part 1, episode 513

Top Chef – Last Supper, Episode 512

For Best REality TV Host:
Phil Keoghan – Amazing Race – Don’t Let a Cheese Hit Me
Heidi Klum – Project Runway – Finale, Part 1
Padma Lackmi and Tom Colicchio – Top Chef – Last Super
Jeff Probst – “Survivor: Tocantins” – Let’s Get Rid of the Weak Players Before We Even Start

OH! Time to scan for all Adam references

Part 3 has to do with song choice/genre. Anoop, Kris, and Adam get mentioned. Just wanted you to know.

I think Kris and Archie share clothes. My evidence??

http://archuletafanscene.com/2009/08/04/kris-allen-steals-david-archuletas-shirts-again-haha/

Poor Anoop…Allison said that Anoop hated her after giving him “Beat it”

haha:

I make fun of him now because we’re a dysfunctional family and I tell him, ‘Anytime you need me to give you a song, Anoop, just call me up and I’d be glad to help.’  He just says, ‘Shut up.’  After I gave ‘Beat It’  to Anoop, I was still a little off as to what song I was going to do. I was thinking of ‘Bad,’  ‘Thriller,’  I don’t know. And then I was talking to Kris and he helped me out. He said, ‘There’s a really good song. I’m hearing it right now, and you’d sound great on it.’  He showed it to me, and the first time I heard it, I fell in love with it. So I went for it. I learned it and it went great.

AllenTX
September 4, 2009 at 3:25 pm
The young kids get to hear real music not the bullshit of today.Susan boyle did that world wide and will sell big world wide.

The young kids are buying SuBo. Highly doubt it. And ‘real music not the bullshit of today’ , lol.

Well i guess you didn’t get my piont.AI the show (susan wasn’t on that)works like that.What susan did was do that world wide does it really matter if kids buy it or not if your #1
2 things i said early in the week susan would out sell adam at the end of the year.If it came out what kind of food adam had to eat,we would see a bunch of post.After seeing yesterday headlines post now todays i guess i’m not to far off.

CindyM
September 4, 2009 at 3:52 pm
I think Kris and Archie share clothes. My evidence??

http://archuletafanscene.com/2009/08/04/kris-allen-steals-david-archuletas-shirts-again-haha/

haha!! Maybe there’s a limited selection in the Toddlers department!

though I bet TPTB would keep him a little more reserved for such a high-profile appearance.

Come on, what the Idols wear in their personal life is up to them. If Adam wanted to show up in skivvies and a neck-tie no one would care…in fact he’d get a lot of applause and press for his OTTness. We’ve all seen enough weirdness on the red carpet to know that the celebs all dance to a different drummer….besides what most of them wear is dependent on the designers. If a designer wants to get their name out there they will offer the celeb designer wear for the evening…and lots of expensive jewelry.

But…I’ll be real surprised if any of the Idols go. Not enough clout yet!

haha!! Maybe there’s a limited selection in the Boys department!

But remember Paula says Kris shops in the ladies department!

I’d enjoy seeing Adam convert that weird swan dress that Bjà ¶rk had on at the Grammy’s Oscars a few years back into a tux. He’s got the balls and the snark to pull it off.

If it came out what kind of food adam had to eat,we would see a bunch of post.After seeing yesterday headlines post now todays i guess i’m not to far off.

You called it

But remember Paula says Kris shops in the ladies department!

If she had only seen Adam really shopping in the ladies department for skinny jeans….

halfie
September 4, 2009 at 4:00 pm
I’d enjoy seeing Adam convert that weird swan dress that Bjork had on at the Grammy’s a few years back into a tux. He’s got the balls and the snark to pull it off.

Indeed, it would probably look a little something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t0V1YqbRA8

Been there, done that.

Plus, from allison’s interview I loved it that the idols helped each other with songs so much this season

Special Idolatry:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/09/03/realite-reality-show-extravaganza/

With a bonus #signmattgiraud siting!

Here are some really really adorable pics of Jason Castros video shoot, I am sure most who love him have seen already but for those who havent, he is just the cutest!

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=390847399&albumId=1841458

EWMichaelSlezak”Anticipation” is Carly Simon’s greatest song of all time! (And perfect for a Kris Allen cover!) http://bit.ly/1xVDqA
about 2 hours ago from web

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=390847399&albumId=1841458

I couldn’t see those unless I had been friended by the user. I’m not on myspace, is there another link somewhere?

Touch, anthrogeek, touch.

halfie
September 4, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Touch, anthrogeek, touch.

And you claimed to be an Adam fan… sigh….

I’ll bet now you’re even more entranced.

anthrogeek – I get the Bjork allusion, but that aside, this performance is just brilliant. I love how he changes lyrics and personalizes a song. “I don’t see whats wrong with a little glitter around my eyes”- genius.

The poll has David Archuleta as one of the contestants. I am sure every tween in the idol universe is now on that site voting for him.

Are you sure? I know tons of WOMEN who love DA not in a creepy way since the Idol. He greatly increased his fan base among tweens thanks to Demi concerts. But look at the picture. DA looks darn cute and fashionable.

Bushy eyebrows is not a big deal. Only in America where everyone is supposed to be plucked, and cloned, to look like barbie dolls

Bahahahaha. That’s so true!! To be honest, “I dreamt a dream” was the reason why she received so much attention. I love that song.

And you claimed to be an Adam fan’ ¦ sigh’ ¦.

I’ll bet now you’re even more entranced.

Well, sure. I could say I’d like to see Adam lowered from the rafters until his bare butt was right in Eminem’s face, but then you’d probably tell me that someone had already done that, too. Pshaw.

I just heard that Lil Jon might be releasing his album on the 24th too….not sure if that is true

halfie
Well, sure. I could say I’d like to see Adam lowered from the rafters until his bare butt was right in Eminem’s face, but then you’d probably tell me that someone had already done that, too. Pshaw.

[snicker]

oops

They can’t do that this year because the Emmy voters would all stab themselves in the eyeballs before they got to vote because humans can only take so much of Tatiana.

God knows I would.

@anthrogeek, thanks for that Adam clip! I know, as a hardcore adamtard, I am so fired for never seeing it. I was having computer issues the weekend it broke and I never ended up tracking back to the link.

BB is fierce and fearless, that’s for sure.

Aloha, all,

Whew! Just caught up with all your posts.
First:

Is it me or does Kris look like Archie in that photo at first glance? I had to do a double take to figure out who it was.

I really had to do a double– then a triple– take on this one.

And Anthrogeek– Love the CIGC in glitter and feathers– it is so amazing to me that Adam transformed that number from what could have been pure camp to an emotional journey through despair, anger and defiance– and finally a declaration of self realization. The boy is a genius.

I love Robbie’s new song’ ¦and yes this is exactly what I expect from Adam

Thanks for posting that link. I’m loving the song, and have already listened to it a few times in a row. If this is close to what Adam’s CD will sound like, I may wear out a few copies.

From a much earlier post, different person:

twitter followers aren’t necessary music buyers. Idol spent a whole lot of the Idol buzz last year building up Danny Gokey as a soulful, religious widower with a voice.

I’m following Danny on Twitter, (and Sarver, and a few others), and am unlikely to buy a CD by him. I’m guessing that many of his church members are following him, but whether they’d buy his CD or not might depend on the content. If it’s too racy for them, I don’t know if they’d buy it. It’s even crossed my mind that if Danny is seen dating, that might cause him to lose some of the people who support him due to his back story. Lots of possible factors, and many of them don’t have to do with his voice.

I sure hope that SuBo doesn’t outsell Adam, but anything could happen. I think it’s too soon to tell how Kradison will do, because they haven’t yet started the publicity for the CDs. I’m guessing, especially with that extra photo shoot just recently, that Adam will get a lot of publicity, which could help boost the sales. And surely the winner of AI, (the kid who won), will make the rounds. I’m less certain how much publicity Allison will get, but maybe she’ll get a Kool Aid commericial. Time will tell.

Any guesses on when the singles might be released for Kradison?

And, I think I see a tweet on its way from Scott, putting in his order for a big supply of chocolate donuts for the Providence show….

Whoo Hoo! I think that I actually got the block quotes to work. Mark this day down in history!

Oh, Susan M, I am SOOOO disappointed in you…. that was a classic!!! Somehow he manages to retain a macho swagger while wearing that… outfit… I just don’t get how he does it. And he should’ve given Simon a mic toss like that!

Well, I’m glad I was able to give you something new while we wait impatiently for something really new…

On the pics Cindy ^^^^^ for Jason Castro, I dont know – but I bet MJ can find them somewhere for you, she is good at that stuff

oops

OK, anthrogeek, that was just an attempt to get your avatar out on the blog one more time, right?

Part 3 of Allison’s interview is up.

OH! Time to scan for all Adam references

Part 3 has to do with song choice/genre. Anoop, Kris, and Adam get mentioned. Just wanted you to know.

Yeah, kinda disappointed – only one Adam reference – to how he suggested she sing “Papa was a Rolling Stone” (good week for her too )

I think Kris and Archie share clothes. My evidence??

http://archuletafanscene.com/2009/08/04/kris-allen-steals-david-archuletas-shirts-again-haha/

That’s is HILARIOUS! They seriously ARE twins. Wow. I knew about the plaid one, but those others…too funny!

I’m really down on the emmy thingy for best moment or whatever its called. The folks at ONTD_ai were having a field day with the “Vaseline Award” and were voting like crazy so they could have a vaseline moment. It was really funny though! They are hillarious if you’re in the mood for it.

New article I found on Adam’s sound by songwriter and a little about Kris’s Album

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1620856/20090904/better_than_ezra.jhtml

yinyang
September 4, 2009 at 4:43 pm
oops

OK, anthrogeek, that was just an attempt to get your avatar out on the blog one more time, right?

Tess made me do it!!!

Somehow he manages to retain a macho swagger while wearing that’ ¦ outfit’ ¦

It wouldn’t have anything to do with the belt buckle, would it?

This guy is HOPING one of his songs will be picked for adam’s new album.

Adam Lambert Songwriter Says Debut Mixes Fall Out Boy, Kylie Minogue
‘You’d mash that together and put some mascara on it,’ Better Than Ezra’s Kevin Griffin tells MTV News.

MTV.com article

And Anthrogeek’“ Love the CIGC in glitter and feathers’“ it is so amazing to me that Adam transformed that number from what could have been pure camp to an emotional journey through despair, anger and defiance’“ and finally a declaration of self realization. The boy is a genius.

By George, I’ve got it! Block quotes!!!!!!!

Yes, that CIGC is amazing. Seriously, if SuBo outsells him, it really will be a Mad World….

This guy is HOPING one of his songs will be picked for adam’s new album.

Well, sure. If you write a song for someone, wouldn’t you hope it made the album? Or am I missing your point?

Can’t wait for part 4…Maybe allison will get more into her debut album

If you want adam references in the interview..go read Adam’s ultimate interview

So that’s where you get the smiley faces! This is maybe a stupid question but which version of which song does Adam sing the line about the glitter on his eyes….how did I miss that?!

I think all of Kradison will get great publicity..Jive does promote their artists real well

New article I found on Adam’s sound by songwriter and a little about Kris’s Album

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1620856/20090904/better_than_ezra.jhtml

UGH! AGAIN with the YHA photos! (That is my new #1 pet peeve, I think – too much pretty Adam out there to put those YHA images out anymore than they need to be.)

Geesh, MTV. They report that Kevin Griffin has written for both Kris and Adam, but they only report what he said about Adam.

Can we hope there is another story with quotes about Kris? I would have preferred that he not be mentioned at all, than to drop his name for nothing.

Somehow he manages to retain a macho swagger while wearing that’ ¦ outfit’ ¦

It wouldn’t have anything to do with the belt buckle, would it?

There was a belt buckle?? All I saw was a zipper….

I think Kris and Archie share clothes. My evidence??

http://archuletafanscene.com/2009/08/04/kris-allen-steals-david-archuletas-shirts-again-haha/

That’s is HILARIOUS! They seriously ARE twins. Wow. I knew about the plaid one, but those others’ ¦too funny!

Haha! They have also been seen wearing the same suit…

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss250/Ozarka_/JiveBros3.jpg?t=1252097437

OK, I just figured out something about how comments are disappearing into cyberspace before they get posted – it seems that if you insert a smiley and then click anywhere near it to try to move it or ANYthing, it makes the page refresh and the whole thing’s gone up in a puff of cybersmoke.

If you want adam references in the interview..go read Adam’s ultimate interview

LOL! I was actually mainly joking about reading the other interviews just for the Adam references. Truth is I rarely have time to read the other interviews in the first place. But I won’t lie that I might be much more inclined to read one if one of the other guys talks about him.

Maybe I should feel worse about it than I do, but most of the other idols this season, nice as they are, tend to bore me in the media mentions.

This guy is HOPING one of his songs will be picked for adam’s new album.

Well, sure. If you write a song for someone, wouldn’t you hope it made the album? Or am I missing your point?

Slightly. I simply wanted to point out that the headline declared him an Adam Lambert songwriter.. when he is, at the moment, hoping for inclusion on the album. Sorry if it looked like snark. Maybe the distinction isn’t worth mentioning.

Geesh, MTV. They report that Kevin Griffin has written for both Kris and Adam, but they only report what he said about Adam.

Can we hope there is another story with quotes about Kris? I would have preferred that he not be mentioned at all, than to drop his name for nothing.

Vada, if you listen to the audio recording embedded in the interview link, you’ll be even more upset. Not sure whether MTV cuts it off, but it sounds like Griffin may have just not had much to say about Kris.

OK, I just figured out something about how comments are disappearing into cyberspace before they get posted ‘“ it seems that if you insert a smiley and then click anywhere near it to try to move it or ANYthing, it makes the page refresh and the whole thing’s gone up in a puff of cybersmoke.

yes – I had that problem too – very annoying. So I stopped using smileys for now (except the handmade ones).

DLee – this is the CIGC version he did on the Zodiac Show-amazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t0V1YqbRA8

doh! aa beat me to it…. and…. another avatar for Tess…

UGH! AGAIN with the YHA photos!

The YHA photo of Adam laughing and holding his award is one of my all-time fav pics of him.

edited to insert the word “photo”

Mahalo, adamaloha. I get what you were after now and it makes sense. I read it wrong.

The YHA of Adam laughing and holding his award is one of my all-time fav pics of him.

Agreed – that one is great. It’s the ones like the MTV one though that bother me (I think we discovered it might have something to do with him looking to the side vs straight on – his hair is too pointed to look good straight on with the YHA look.)

Mateja
September 4, 2009 at 11:55 am

I love Robbie’s new single. Gregorian singing FTW!

Late to the game again today but I listened to Robbie’s new single Bodies last night and I flove it! Am looking forward to the album dropping in November.

I am just ready for this tour to end and we get some original music from kradison

really, I want to hear allison’s music..

halfie
September 4, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Mahalo, adamaloha. I get what you were after now and it makes sense. I read it wrong.

Shaka, brah.

So, another Gokey crowd tonite, and am I correct that is the last Central time zone show.

Have the interviews tapered off? Why is it we never heard about DC brother’s interviews with the idols?

It’s the second time I read someone connects Adam with Fall Out Boy. This first time Adam was described as a missing brother of the Fall out Boy. I checked out their music, kinda good to my taste, so I’m happy. I think Adam’s songs will be more edgy tho.

Have the interviews tapered off? Why is it we never heard about DC brother’s interviews with the idols?

We got those when they were in KC, but it was just Matt and Kris, I believe – which is why I don’t have the link saved for ya – ha!

I am just ready for this tour to end and we get some original music from kradison

What? You mean we have to go back to our normal lives and become productive again and probably get our sleep?

Thanks aa618892! I have actually seen that – it was a different video and the quality wasn’t as great. Change is Gonna Come (longer version) is my favorite from the season. I wouldn’t call that a “little” glitter though!

hafie: Vada, if you listen to the audio recording embedded in the interview link, you’ll be even more upset. Not sure whether MTV cuts it off, but it sounds like Griffin may have just not had much to say about Kris.

Yeah, it sounds like the writer only threw Kris’ name in there to get hits, which is even more irritating.

Obviously, Kevin Griffin has not written for Kris, since he had no clue about Kris’ music beyond what he did on the show.

What? You mean we have to go back to our normal lives and become productive again and probably get our sleep?

Haha, until January 2010

We got those when they were in KC, but it was just Matt and Kris, I believe ‘“ which is why I don’t have the link saved for ya ‘“ ha!

He only interviewed those two? Oh well.

So, another Gokey crowd tonite, and am I correct that is the last Central time zone show.

I think you’re correct on both of those, but I get hazy about the time zones. Pretty sure that you’re right on that, too, though.

Madison is more of a college town, though, and maybe Kris and Adam will pick up a little support there. But, since all 3 did well in Milwaukee, I would think that trend will continue. Maybe they’ll throw some cheese on to the stage. Last chance for any cheesehead references.

anthrogeek-There was a belt buckle?? All I saw was a zipper’ ¦.

I know, in spite of the feathers and….things, my eye was transfixed on that zipper. He seems to favor this style, ROF?
Love the attitude!

Cindy, can you see these pics of Jason Castros shoot? I am trying, I am!

http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?id=8795301326#/photo.php?pid=3981989&id=8795301326&ref=mf

This will sound random … but if we’re talking clothes… I really wish they wouldn’t put Kris in pants that fit so snug all the way down. He’s got great legs for shorts but in pants … the shape is so pronounced that it looks girlish; kind shapely like Blondie you know. The AI show jeans with the worn-by-his-guitar hole were a bit better. But, the suit in that Kris vs David picture … and the black ‘tour’ jeans are a ‘fail’ for me, for him …

Vada: Obviously, Kevin Griffin has not written for Kris, since he had no clue about Kris’ music beyond what he did on the show.

Well, the article says: “this time around, [Griffin's] written some songs for Kris Allen and Adam Lambert for their top-secret, highly anticipated debuts, both out this fall.”

It’s possible the reporter got that fact wrong (happens all the time), but it does sound as though he’s written for both but for whatever reason was less familiar with the the artistic direction of Kris’ record.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anoop-Desai/49938872076

I’m bored (oh, Dannyitist must be contagious)…

Anoop’s new vlog [yells] Allison, oh Allison

What? You mean we have to go back to our normal lives and become productive again and probably get our sleep?

Considering how much time is being spent guessing at what the upcoming CDs will be like, and how well they’ll sell, I’m thinking that we’ll find ways to avoid being productive. It’s working for me right now.

I’m also guessing that once the publicity for the CDs start, we might find a way to have a ___-gate or 2, which will be good for at least a few hours of lost sleep.

halfie, Kevin Griffin may have submitted some songs for Kris’ consideration. Song writers do that all of the time. However he knew exactly what to write for Adam, and could only giggle like a girl, when asked about Kris’ direction. Obviously, he didn’t know.

I really wish they wouldn’t put Kris in pants that fit so snug all the way down.

I don’t know what Kris could wear because he has short chunky legs. Being short, baggy jeans will make him look shorter. Tight jeans not so good on big legs. I noticed Jason Castro (also short but slimmer) always wore baggy jeans. But then again, Castro was really bowlegged, so tight jeans would have been big fail. What does Archie (also short) wear?

Dind’t we talk about this Ezra guy when we speculated over songwriters? I remember someone hoping he would write for Adam or Kris. Has he written any good songs before?

So, another Gokey crowd tonite, and am I correct that is the last Central time zone show.

Maybe a Gokey crowd – but only if they drove over from Milwaukee – Madison is VERY liberal. It isn’t that long a drive, so perfectly possible. Wisconsin as a whole is more liberal than you would expect – I’m pretty sure they had a socialist governor for quite a while!

Yes, this is the last central time concert.

And Anthrogeek’“ Love the CIGC in glitter and feathers’“ it is so amazing to me that Adam transformed that number from what could have been pure camp to an emotional journey through despair, anger and defiance’“ and finally a declaration of self realization. The boy is a genius.

Beautifully said, adamaloha!!

I KNOW, anthrogeek, I am EPIC FAIL on that one. Well, anyway, this was a way for me to mete out material/performances to myself during this excruciating wait until November.

I HATE when I’m at work and I stumble upon links and I tell myself, “Oh, I’ll go back and watch that when I get home.” But then I don’t remember half of them and I get caught up in a concert thread instead. (YAY for work-at-home Fridays!)

I remember the weekend that broke was when I had a MAJOR deadline and my three (!) computers were on crack in three different ways.

And while I’m complaining, I did my daily Adam google and found this:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/04/PKVK19FDJN.DTL

Anybody hear an ounce of gratitude in there?

also:

Fallout Boy yes but Kylie Minogue can’t sing.

sumidol
September 4, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Cindy, can you see these pics of Jason Castros shoot? I am trying, I am!

http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?id=8795301326#/photo.php?pid=3981989&id=8795301326&ref=mf

Yep, those I could see! Thanks!

I really wish they wouldn’t put Kris in pants that fit so snug all the way down. He’s got great legs for shorts but in pants ‘ ¦ the shape is so pronounced that it looks girlish; kind shapely like Blondie you know.

I noticed that too. Kris has a girlish figure especially his legs. Baggy jeans are safe choice. Tight pants…

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss250/Ozarka_/JiveBros3.jpg?t=1252097437

Fallout Boy yes but Kylie Minogue can’t sing.

I think Kylie can sing… but she has been very much in to electronica lately and she is much more popular outside the US (liked her fever album).

About Allison; I think it’s cool she did so much singing before the show, she seem to be well prepared for AI.

And while I’m complaining, I did my daily Adam google and found this:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/04/PKVK19FDJN.DTL

Anybody hear an ounce of gratitude in there?

Cassidy may have spent 90% of the interview gushing about how amazing Adam is and what good friends they are. You really can’t judge an interview subject’s gratitude by the quotes the reporter chooses to include.

I know, because this happened to me one time when I was doing press.

Nah, nah, nah BestAi

not chunky or big … shame on you … blasphemy … just the “shapely” that really looks good in shorts …

(oooops didn’t mean to bite and bark just then)

I’m thinking tight at the butt, skims the thighs and bypasses the lower leg altogether

Maybe a Gokey crowd ‘“ but only if they drove over from Milwaukee ‘“ Madison is VERY liberal. It isn’t that long a drive, so perfectly possible. Wisconsin as a whole is more liberal than you would expect ‘“ I’m pretty sure they had a socialist governor for quite a while!

Yes, this is the last central time concert.

Thank you — I didn’t know Wisconsin was fairly liberal. Must have been Danny’s church that made me think differently. According to the Milwaukee articles, perhaps not so surprisingly, Adam got the second biggest reception after Danny.

Anybody hear an ounce of gratitude in there?

I seem to recall a thank you or two from Cassidy to Adam on Twitter. Besides I don’t think friends expect media praise from their friends just for doing something nice. Otherwise Adam would spend all his interviews thanking people for putting out nice words for him.

I think Kris looks great in the clothes he wears. They suit him. His pants have gotten a bit tighter since AI ended, his jeans especially, but he looks good!

And while I’m complaining, I did my daily Adam google and found this:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/04/PKVK19FDJN.DTL

That exact same article keeps popping up on different web sites with a fresh datestamp, making it seem new. I hope reality has set in a little bit more for him since it broke. Just because he’s gay or bi, or whatever, doesn’t equate him with Adam.

Cassidy needs to eat more.

BeckyMD: I noticed that too. Kris has a girlish figure especially his legs. Baggy jeans are safe choice. Tight pants’ ¦

If Kris has legs like a girl, then so does this ‘superhero’ on this album cover.

http://www.amazon.com/For-You/dp/B0013TVJ9I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1252099854&sr=1-3

Okay, I’m not sure of the etiquette of this… but I found this over at the AO site.
So funny! (but true)

Is it okay to post here? Or am I “stealing?”

Nah, nah, nah BestAi

not chunky or big ‘ ¦ shame on you ‘ ¦ blasphemy ‘ ¦ just the ‘shapely’  that really looks good in shorts ‘ ¦

LOL, LOL. So, next time my hubs says my ass is getting too big, I can tell him they are just shapely. OK, I’ll bite. So, Kris has “shapely” thighs and they are called feminine. Mine are slim, so are they called masculine?

University of Wisconsin at Madison has been voted the most liberal college in the country on several occasions in various college list guides over the last 20 years.

I come from a long line of UW Madison grads, including mom, dad, bro, grandpa and great-grandpa. I went to USC when it considered the most conservative U in the country, which was torture in my book.

On Wisconsin!! (Well, as long as they’re not playing ‘SC in the Rose Bowl …).

Dang, got to get ready for a hair appt. Hope to be back not far into the concert.

BestAI, click that link I posted just a few posts upthread. That is what muscled legs look like on a man.

Thanks for all the Wisconsin info. Quite an education here. I hope the idols are learning about the states they visit too.

LOL, LOL. So, next time my hubs says my ass is getting too big, I can tell him they are just shapely.

If he really says that, I’d point out to him that you could always lose a few pounds, yet he’d still be an arse.

I know what muscled legs look like on a man. I just don’t like short legs that look too big. I like my men to hav long, toned but lean legs (like mine used to be before Adam).

Yes BestAI. I hate to tell you this but your thin legs are masculine. I can tell just by looking. Sorry. Just saying.

And you are all very nice to Cassidy.

But “superhero” dude would have to wear plaid up top for us to really compare him to Kris. Although a superhero comparison does seem fair.

And yes Cassidy needs to eat more. He has stick figure legs.

If he really says that, I’d point out to him that you could always lose a few pounds, yet he’d still be an arse.

Excellent comeback for me. Hell yeah. My hubs is a bit shallow when it comes to MY appearance. He is kinda letting me get away with my obsessing over Adam, so I can’t complain right now.

I am a leg connoiseur who is in a bad mood. Thanks for humoring me.

Kylie Minogue is a stick figure too.

This will sound random ‘ ¦ but if we’re talking clothes’ ¦ I really wish they wouldn’t put Kris in pants that fit so snug all the way down. He’s got great legs for shorts but in pants ‘ ¦ the shape is so pronounced that it looks girlish; kind shapely like Blondie you know. The AI show jeans with the worn-by-his-guitar hole were a bit better. But, the suit in that Kris vs David picture ‘ ¦ and the black ‘tour’ jeans are a ‘fail’ for me, for him

It is my contention that Kris is wearing the exact same suit that Archie wore during his finale. The production did not even bother to alter the pants. That is why they look so snug on him.

It is my contention that Kris is wearing the exact same suit that Archie wore during his finale. The production did not even bother to alter the pants. That is why they look so snug on him.

Or the jacket. Look at the difference in the shoulders.

Ok, all. I’m going out for a little bit. I’d like to thank everyone for the warm welcome on my first “real” day paricipating on MJs and, of course, SnarkBot3000 for posting the recap that brought me out of lurking.

I believe today I’ve been called brilliant, insightful, funny, amazing, got a shaka from Hawai’i and was able to do my own very-special “Halfie Gives Back” episode by giving BestAI a comeback she can cleverly drop on her hubby that is full of snarky win. Either that, or she’ll get a divorce.

All-in-all I’d call that a successful day. Enjoy the Madison show, everyone.

Halfie, out!

Cindy you are welcome and hey, I found some more pics of the video – here:

http://pacificcoastnewsonline.celebuzz.com/2009/09/jason-castro-falls-in-love-aga.html

BestAI, click that link I posted just a few posts upthread. That is what muscled legs look like on a man.

It works because he is 10 feet tall! haha

Hmmm. Actually, Kris could probably look good in the superhero outfit (without the plaid) and this would put the short leg problem to rest… because he has perfect proportions for his size and we would be able to see that very clearly if he would just wear tights. So, yes, very tight tights or loose jeans. I’ll shut up now.

But yes, I agree that the wardrobe people are recycling suits and stuff from one year to the next.

Halfie “out” but, hopefully, not gone.

More evidence that Kris and Archie share the same clothes…

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss250/Ozarka_/vest.jpg?t=1252099662

Jive really is as “frugal” as they say!

It is my contention that Kris is wearing the exact same suit that Archie wore during his finale. The production did not even bother to alter the pants. That is why they look so snug on him.

Or the jacket. Look at the difference in the shoulders.

AH HA!! So suddenly the clever plot falls into place … Kris was a doppelganger plant sent to avenge Archie’s S7 loss!!

It’s now so clear. That fashion photo mix-up cinches it. Evil masterminds, those Powers That Be. Could’ve at least altered his wardrobe, if they were going to recycle it though …

But yes, I agree that the wardrobe people are recycling suits and stuff from one year to the next.

Hmm, who will get Adam’s Kiss finale outfit,I wonder? TPTB will tell them “just try to blend, nobody will notice,,, trust us”

Really hope that the evil deed doers washed the clothes.

If Jive is going to hand down the clothes, Kris should get them first, since he is bigger and a little bit taller. They can take in the seams for Archie later on.

ozarka
September 4, 2009 at 6:00 pm
More evidence that Kris and Archie share the same clothes’ ¦

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss250/Ozarka_/vest.jpg?t=1252099662

Jive really is as ‘frugal’  as they say!

OK, this is getting ridiculous! Now we know they MUST be storing these in the wardrobe department – either that, or Rodeo Drive doesn’t have much of a Toddler section. We know Adam recycled all of his clothing items repeatedly, too, but at least he only shared them amongst himself!

Haha! They have also been seen wearing the same suit’ ¦

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss250/Ozarka_/JiveBros3.jpg?t=1252097437

Since they are the same size… the wardrobe folk probably just shook the dust off of them and handed them to Kris. Joking aside.. its kind weird. I wonder how that happened.

I can see the on stage stuff being reused… but the casual clothes?!?

I’m not sure what is stranger the twins or the fact that as AI fans, as a group, we know this.

KrisAllen4RealI had no time to take a shower this morning and in in turn am getting some weird looks at this meet & greet today.
2 minutes ago from TwitterFon

UH-OH, could be another KRADAM dealbreaker.

NewFan
September 4, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Really hope that the evil deed doers washed the clothes.

Hmm, if you recall, Kris doesn’t wash his plaid tour shirt, so he probably didn’t even ask……

LOL. Now Noop can tweet that Kris smells bad, and get his revenge.

I think Kris and Archie share clothes. My evidence??

http://archuletafanscene.com/2009/08/04/kris-allen-steals-david-archuletas-shirts-again-haha/

Ha! That’s hilarious.

Audition criteria for 2010: balance and the ability to really ‘work’ an outfit in original ways. They will really have to want to wear it if they’re gonna ‘pull it off’.

They have three similar outfits or have someone found more? Is this what happens when you don’t want to go out shopping with the stylists?

KrisAllen4RealI had no time to take a shower this morning and in in turn am getting some weird looks at this meet & greet today.

Doh! My point exactly! Oh, smelly Kris… too bad you’re an Adam fan..

Audition criteria for 2010: balance and the ability to really ‘work’ an outfit in original ways. They will really have to want to wear it if they’re gonna ‘pull it off’

Yeah, it’s not about rearranging songs next year, it’s about rearranging outfits… or not.

Kris and Archie are not the same size, so making them wear the same clothes is really being cheap.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Photo+of+Ryan+Seacrest+and+David+Archuleta&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&rlz=1I7RNTN_en

Unless Archie has grown about 3 inches since last year, Kris is taller and bigger (muscled).

KrisAllen4RealI had no time to take a shower this morning and in in turn am getting some weird looks at this meet & greet today.

Doh! My point exactly! Oh, smelly Kris’ ¦ too bad you’re an Adam fan..

AHAH!!! That explains why the two haven’t been too friendly. Kris knows Adam doesn’t like smelly people, so he’s been keeping his distance.

Saga, yes it’s punishment. Silly boys

KrisAllen4RealI had no time to take a shower this morning and in in turn am getting some weird looks at this meet & greet today.
2 minutes ago from TwitterFon

Plus stinky clothes … this is Kris’ way of getting out of future meet & greets.

There’s got to be at least three ‘gates’ in all of this … and they all belong to Kris… he’s catching up

I smell a Kris-gate for tonight’s concert thread…..

All of this can’t be coincidence… maybe Daid did really forget a suitcase in the bus.

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss250/Ozarka_/vest.jpg?t=1252099662

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss250/Ozarka_/JiveBros3.jpg?t=1252097437

http://archuletafanscene.com/2009/08/04/kris-allen-steals-david-archuletas-shirts-again-haha/

Too bad it wasn’t about rearranging outfits this year. We all know who would have won.

And, yes, Kris is trying to keep Adam at a distance. He wants to hang with Anoop now.

KrisAllen4RealI had no time to take a shower this morning and in in turn am getting some weird looks at this meet & greet today.
2 minutes ago from TwitterFon

Hmm. A few days ago we had “#adamfarted” trending on twitter. Does this mean that “#krisstinks” will be next?

Damnit, just read this on another board. Looks like ABC is planning to do something on the WBC protest, well according to the Phelps chick. IF (and I hope it’s a gigantic IF) it’s true, why would they give them the publicity?? Here’s Megan Phelps tweet:

meganphelps More Sun. night awesomeness:ABC News called 4 info on the @adamlambert & AI picket. Whoo hoo! @craigxxxchurch They called u “Larry” Gross!
about 4 hours ago from Tweetie

Damnit to hell.

And, yes, Kris is trying to keep Adam at a distance. He wants to hang with Anoop now.

I thought he eloped with Matt?

Adam and someone else (possibly Allison) said they got their concert clothes cleaned all the time (I hope Danny does because he sweats like a pig), and Kris said his haven’t been cleaned at all? Oh, Kris…

Damnit to hell.

Damn THEM to hell. Hopefully, it’s just a local affiliate, and this chick’s delusional (well, we knew that part).

CindyM, don’t fret. Adam should pay those people to follow him around. He got a ton of great publicity out of those 7 nutjobs last time.

An old interview, looks like LA, but I hadn’t seen it before. It was posted today by YoungHollywoodl.com

Talks to all 10 about the tour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJCdjjDRvtY

And, yes, Kris is trying to keep Adam at a distance. He wants to hang with Anoop now.

I thought he eloped with Matt?

Threesome! From Anoop:

New video up on the facebook page! http://bit.ly/Wt6bC
about 2 hours ago from web

Another good interview with Allison. Her voice really comes through on these things and it’s interesting to hear how she made her choices and her musical background. Very cool.

Oh and let me add to the Goooo Badgers! On Wisconsin, On Wisconsin. With one of THE best school sports songs ever. It rocks. Not that I’m biased. Which okay I am, but really, I’ve heard the instrumental version it being used at other schools sporting events, it makes me kind of grrr-y. It’s an sports song.

But it will be interesting to see if it is another Gokey crowd.

CindyM, don’t fret. Adam should pay those people to follow him around. He got a ton of great publicity out of those 7 nutjobs last time.

Publicity is one thing, but to condone hatred, especially against gays is another. No. Adam believes in love and light.

Okay, I just read that David A. is 5’7”. He is young-maybe he grew. ???

Thanks CindyM

Talks to all 10 about the tour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJCdjjDRvtY

I hadn’t seen that one before and I like the Aussie. Too bad he’s losing his job to Matt.

http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1620856/20090904/better_than_ezra.jhtml?rsspartner=rssYahooNewscrawler

ARRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH… the Eddie Munster pics will JUST. NOT. DIE.

(Sorry Susan M. This is the one that makes me want to stab ME in the eyeballs)

I hadn’t seen that one before and I like the Aussie. Too bad he’s losing his job to Matt.

For that goofy shirt alone he should lose his job to Matt. I bet that’s what Danny was laughing at.

I smell a Kris-gate for tonight’s concert thread’ ¦..

anthrogeek, you really should be writing these down (well, in hard copy, not just here). You’re genius.

I LOLLed at this last page. And about WBC, from my previous take on ABC’s treatment (20/20 interview), they’ll come off looking like idiots and Adam will garner HUGE PR from it. I may be placing too much faith in ABC, but my trick knee tells me (actually, I don’t have a trick knee), that Adam’s even mentioned, he’ll WIN.

Looks like ABC is planning to do something on the WBC protest

As much as it would hurt us (and I think I speak for most people here) for WBC to get any kind of press…the reverse of the coin is that Adam would probably get a lot of empathy from most of the viewers…just like he did for his 20/20 broadcast. I am sure that ABC would lean heavily in Adam’s favor and that the piece would be Adam positive if it happened.

Apparently, word has just reached Adam:

congrats @Dannygokey! Signed to RCA/19! Yeehaw!
11 minutes ago from TwitterFon

anthrogeek, you really should be writing these down (well, in hard copy, not just here). You’re genius.

Thanks, Susan M, but I give full credit to the avatar.

KrisAllen4real
# I had no time to take a shower this morning and in in turn am getting some weird looks at this meet & greet today.30 minutes ago from TwitterFon

So I guess this means he doesn’t small like heaven today?…and did he sleep though his wake up call or something? This is a good way to get out of hugging fans at the meet& greets though!

Ah well, now Anoop can get his revenge for Kris tweetiing that he smelled bad!

Meanwhile, we get this from Adam…

Adamlambert
## congrats @Dannygokey! Signed to RCA/19! Yeehaw#!15 minutes ago from TwitterFon

Um…yeehaw????? ROFLMAO!

tiger92
September 4, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Okay, I just read that David A. is 5′ ²7′ . He is young-maybe he grew. ???

It is unlikely that he would grow 3 inches after turning 18, but who knows? I just know that Ryan Seacrest towered over him last year, and he (Ryan) appears to be about 5’8″ with his dress boots on.

Apparently, word has just reached Adam:

congrats @Dannygokey! Signed to RCA/19! Yeehaw!
11 minutes ago from TwitterFon

Danny and Adam may possibly have had their differences in the beginning, but I really do think Danny looks up to Adam. The two should celebrate their RCA contracts. I liked Adam’s tweet, Yeehaw!

Just in case you’re not convinced, I blew up the “JiveBros” picture so that you can do a side by side comparison of the row of buttons on the sleeves. They are of the plastic 4-button variety.

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss250/Ozarka_/cufflinks.jpg?t=1252103808

Kylie Minogue? Everytime that I come to this thread I find new names related to Adam that makes me cringe.
Hope we get a song leak fast to see exactly what it is like.

Those Archie/Kris pics are funny.
I’m glad Jordin and Allison aren’t the same size, Jive can’t recycle those clothes.

If ABC does a piece on the WBC it would be a win for Adam. WBC didn’t invent homophobia, they are just at its extreme and very loud end of the spectrum. Most people who watch the story would sympathize with Adam.. and some may even begin to recognize and question their own, probably hidden, twinges of homophobia and incorrect assumptions about gays.

Keeping WBC hidden doesn’t make them go away, any more than keeping quiet about domestic violence means the problem doesn’t exist.

Only by exposing such evils and breaking the silence can we begin to move as a society into a more enlightened place.

okay, I’m stepping off the soapbox now.

Aussie should have asked AI costume department for something else to wear. Even if it hadn’t been washed it might have looked better.

I wish I could say that I liked the idea of the 20/20 thing. But I don’t. Even if it’s good PR for Adam, I just hate hearing anything about that group of people. I think that the world should just ignore them and let them fade away.

On a nicer note, the picture that Anoop has put on his facebook page is … gorgeous. He should not be allowed to put goofy glasses on that face. Nothing should interfere with our ability to see it.

And ‘yeehaw’. Methinks that Danny is taking a bit of ribbing lately.

KrisAllen4real
# I had no time to take a shower this morning and in in turn am getting some weird looks at this meet & greet today.30 minutes ago from TwitterFon

So I guess this means he doesn’t small like heaven today?

Well, it’s not a Tuesday…

I’m glad Jordin and Allison aren’t the same size, Jive can’t recycle those clothes.

Given the ill-fitting, unflattering outfit that Allison wears during her set, it probably wouldn’t be much worse. Her outfit for “Slow Ride” is so much better, imo. She’s got a great figure, so why not show it off a little? And it makes her look like a rock star

Just IMHO, NO ONE who carries around signs that say things like WBC do/did (and I will not even restate the one here that comes to mind) should get even one teeny tiny smidgen of publicity in any manner. It energizes them and even if the ABC piece was highly critical, crackpots do not understand critical….they just see it as finally getting mainstream recognition for their cause. Just sayin’

adamaloha
September 4, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Keeping WBC hidden doesn’t make them go away, any more than keeping quiet about domestic violence means the problem doesn’t exist.

Only by exposing such evils and breaking the silence can we begin to move as a society into a more enlightened place.

My first reaction was chagrin, but after reading this adamaloha, I must agree with you. Thank you for putting it so eloquently.

Hmm, who will get Adam’s Kiss finale outfit,I wonder? TPTB will tell them ‘just try to blend, nobody will notice,,, trust us’ 

My favorite laugh of the day…so far. But we’ve got the concert thread coming up, so I challenge you all to top this one.

Dallas, I almost agree that it is ridiculous to give so much attention to 7 nutjobs. But, it is more like mainstream derision than mainstream recognition.

It is unlikely that he would grow 3 inches after turning 18, but who knows?

I really doubt David was 5’4” on the show. (he might have been…IDK) Actually, boys can grow 2 to 3 inches in a period of 16 months. Boys can even have their growth spurt while in college. David could still grow more. I think it’s too late for Kris.
BTW, Ryan’s height is listed at 5’8”. (he claims to be 5’9”)

tiger92, if they were both barefoot in front of us, I think you would see the difference.

Hi everyone.I’m skipping dance 2 night so I’ll be here 4 the concert!!!! does Adam have press?! brb reading the thread

Dallas
September 4, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Just IMHO, NO ONE who carries around signs that say things like WBC do/did (and I will not even restate the one here that comes to mind) should get even one teeny tiny smidgen of publicity in any manner. It energizes them and even if the ABC piece was highly critical, crackpots do not understand critical’ ¦.they just see it as finally getting mainstream recognition for their cause. Just sayin’

This is how I feel.

Looks like the good REV. will be at the concert tonight…

@pastorjpruitt me and @firstlodge are in mad town for the idol concert. A sweet repeat of last week! This time no backstage:(

Yeehaw!

Yes, Archie grew a good 3 or 4 inches after Idol…and no it isn’t unusual. I have nephews that have grown 6 to 8 inches once they have graduated from high school. Girls usually get their final growth spurts during early high school….a lot of guys don’t until their late teens. That’s why a lot of nerdy geeky little short guys are the oohs and aahs at the 10 year reunion.

Kelly band posted a vlog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1JEDf21Bkg

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I think Kris looks fine in his tour clothes. And the peeps over on ontd_ai seem to like Kris jeans just fine…the tighter the better. I think because the baggy jeans hide Kris’ butt – which is a shame.

I think the idea is to show off the hot/cute guy without making him too uncomfortable (thus letting him keep the plaid shirts and the sneakers)

tiger92, if they were both barefoot in front of us, I think you would see the difference.

Well, I think this is unlikely to happen. David says he’s 5’7” now and Kris says he is the same. I guess both of them could be fudging it a little, or maybe not.

Tess: Yep, I have nephews who completely changed once they left high school.

Just in case you weren’t convinced, I blew up the picture so that you can do a side by side comparison of the cuff links. If you look closely, you can tell that they are of the plastic 4-button variety on both sleeves’ ¦

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss250/Ozarka_/cufflinks.jpg?t=1252103808

I only saw cuff links peeking out of the suit on the left.

deleted cuz not really news.

Okay, since Steve said earlier if there’s something about Adam and food, we will comment’ ¦here ya go. Looks like the same shirt from the Rock week with Slash.

http://fr.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=furjlt&s=3

Ack!! I can’t make out the French, but when was this taken? One of the few bad pics I’ve ever seen of him (despite the fact that we barely see any of him).