Idol Headlines for 08/01/09

From the Access Atlanta review:

Anoop Desai: He’s also somebody I can’t 100% figure out. He still does an amazing job with ballads. I absolutely love his ‘Georgia on My Mind.’ 

Ooops!! I absolutely love his Freudian typo.

So I guess they call this one ‘rare photos’ because there are finally some of people not named Adam! Nevertheless, when we saw these yesterday, this is where I first noticed Adam has spiked boots!

http://www.tulsatoday.com/newsdesk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2095&Itemid=9

Wonder if he’s had to kick any ass yet!

I’m not so sure about the accuracy of that TMZ report about Kris and Katy subletting their apartment. I was pretty sure they lived in Conway, not Cabot, Arkansas. But, wow, that’s pretty creepy of TMZ to print that if it is true. So much for them being able to sublet the apartment. Now, I’d imagine they’d be inundated with creepers. Way to go, TMZ!

Megan really is a beautiful girl.

I wonder if there will be more reviews, although the one posted was good and focused on everyone.

TMZ, Perez Hilton and to my disappointment sometimes Rickey.org can be very scuzzy and invasive with the stuff they post in their headlines.

I just got back from the ATLANTA CONCERT!!!!

OMG! If you were an Adam fan on the show, you have to go. Or you will regret it everyday of your life. It was the best AI concert i have been to by miles.

And i have some people to thank on this blog also, because i had no tickets up until about an hour before the show. None. All my attempts fell thru. And i knew my last hope was what a couple people on here told me to do, and that was check back at the box office again (this was the 100th time i called them this week haha) as they release more tickets during the day of the show. And i ended up with FRONT ROW SEATS for 70 bucks! Holy cow. I pee’d myself.

Tried video camera’ing, but it was impossible in the front, there were guards right on top of me telling me no. They wouldnt even let me take stills with it. BUt i had a disposable camera i took pics with and hopefully the couple of ppl i met in the arena that were also lambert fans will email me their pics.

Ill be sending my recap by the end of the day (hopefully).

Kelly Nightline Playlist Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7gKhaYSPCA

Bette Midler – Wind Beneath My Wings
Mariah Carey – Vision of Love
Alanis Morissette – Perfect
Michael Bolton – When a Man Loves a Woman
Etta James – At Last
Britney Spears – Radar

@Duke, that’s AWESOME!! Lesson: tenacity pays off. So glad you had a blast and can’t wait for your recap.

And about that AJC article, WOW! Could they have chosen more geeky pictures of Gokey? (One and three, second one is not so bad.) Then they’re followed by that lit-from-above ethereal one of Adam. I LOLed at the contrast.

The commenters didn’t seem to think the writer was a fan of Adam’s, but I definitely got the vibe he was no fan of Danny’s. And yeah, he did mess up Anoop’s song and Kris’ set list. Oh well.

I liked Megan’s Marilyn hair ‘“ 1,000 times better than Bride o’ Frankenstein/beehive.

Attended the American Idol concert in Atlanta last night and it was a really enjoyable show. This years show, unlike the years in the past that I’ve attended, had at least 5 people that I feel have a real shot making it in the music business.
The musicians, Kris Allen and Matt Giraud impressed me the most. Allison was flat out amazing and evoked women rockers of the past, in a good way. I’m not a fan of Adam, and his style but he gave certainly had mass appeal and an entertaining set. The drunk yuppies behind me were in heaven during his portion of the concert and I found them the most riveting part of his time on stage.

After the show I waited with my daughter to meet them, and Megan, Scott, Adam (the screams were deafening making me think of super teen idols of the past), Kris, Matt, Micheal and Danny all met the crowd. It was a fun night, most well behaved but the crowd was massive so it was a quick pass of the fence for all but rather satisfying and fun.

Great season, Great concert, and really talented kids.

I thought Kris and Katy lived in Conway? Oh well, from what I saw of it when they did his 1st video pkg on the show, they have a beautiful place. Out here, you can’t rent a teeny tiny studio for $600/month, let alone something that nice. I hope they clean out every piece of personal stuff (pictures, papers, etc.) before they sublet it, though! And does this mean Katy is going to be quitting her job? Somehow I doubt her employer will allow her to just go off to California for a couple of months again…

Can’t wait to read your recap Duke, sounds like you had a blast!

Glad you had a good time Doubleagent.

girlygirl: I’ve often wondered how the Allens could make it to every show. Didn’t they have jobs? Are they independently wealthy? I wonder if Idol had a place that families could stay that was reasonably priced. The plane tickets alone would have been a fortune!

“It’s pretty awesome. We’re on the stage together; don’t have to worry about anything anymore. We’re just doing our thing; it’s so much fun,” said Idol Amanda Iraheta

I suspsect the person who wrote the Fox News story on the American Idol concert in Atlanta doesn’t watch the AI TV show.

They said in an interview that their jobs were very understanding and that people donated frequent flyer miles to them.

ETA: this was in response to the Allen’s cooment

Maybe he’s getting her confused with that other rocker chick Amanda Overmyer.

And does this mean Katy is going to be quitting her job? Somehow I doubt her employer will allow her to just go off to California for a couple of months again’ ¦

If I recall correctly, Katy was working while Kris was on Idol. Her employer allowed her to telecommute, so she was able to live in L.A. with a friend, but still work.

girlygirl: I’ve often wondered how the Allens could make it to every show. Didn’t they have jobs? Are they independently wealthy? I wonder if Idol had a place that families could stay that was reasonably priced. The plane tickets alone would have been a fortune!

From the interviews I remember with Kris’s mom, her employer and co-workers were very understanding. She essentially worked half-weeks for much of the time Kris was on AI. I remember her talking about how, one week, she was not able to go out for the show, and she basically cried watching him on TV (I think it was when he did Ain’t No Sunshine), and she decided that week that she would be there for every show. As for the plane tickets, I know that there were a lot of people in the local area who helped them with that, either through financial donations or donating their miles for them. AI provides absolutely nothing for the families to be there. My view of the financial situation of the Allens is that they are middle class, maybe upper middle class, but certainly not independently wealthy. They both work.

There is going to be a live buscast today before the concert starting around 1PM on this site:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/idols-live-09-buscast

I guess Adam exposure really IS dangerous!

Tulsa’s newspaper, Tulsa World has a column call “Dear Pharmacist”. Here’s a letter from today’s paper:

Supplements, medications, exercise can help a fluttering heart

By SUZY COHEN Dear Pharmacist
Published: 8/1/2009 2:25 AM

Dear Pharmacist: I attended an “American Idol” concert and I got so excited to see my favorite, Adam Lambert, that I developed cardiac arrhythmias. I went to the ER, the doctor called it “A-fib” and I was sent home with medications. What do you suggest so that this scary thing doesn’t happen again? ‘” J.S. Ocala, Fla.

A-fib stands for atrial fibrillation. Because afib can reduce the flow of oxygen to the heart, it could cause a heart attack or even stroke. The rest of Suzy’s answer is available at this link: http://www.tulsaworld.com/Scene/article.aspx?subjectid=17&articleid=20090801_222_D4_DearPh19854

Maybe this is the 70 year old man who was sitting by himself – j/k

I would be really, really surprised if the sub-lease of the apartment is true. I am sure Kris is bringing in enough money with his I-tune sales and his earnings from the tour that a few thousand from sub-leasing an apartment would be ludicrous. Chalk this one up to TMZ and “nothing” to report about.

As far as the parents going to the AI concerts and following their kids around. I think this is something that family just DOES. Whether it is maxing out a credit card or receiving, graciously, airline mileage from friends. Besides, again, I am sure the Idols are helping out their families, now, in order to be able to spend time with them.

Doesn’t sound like she was actually at the concert (Tulsa) by her wording: “The show, described as lively and engaging…”

I would be really, really surprised if the sub-lease of the apartment is true. I am sure Kris is bringing in enough money with his I-tune sales and his earnings from the tour that a few thousand from sub-leasing an apartment would be ludicrous. Chalk this one up to TMZ and ‘nothing’  to report about.

Agreed. Didn’t Kris sign a record contract worth at least $1 million?

Nice to see reviewers, more and more, thinking for themselves, critiquing performers and performances on their individual merit, rather than the constant comparing of apples to oranges. Fortunately, there have only been a few parroting that old party line of anti-climatic, let-down, yadda, yadda, yadda. You could pretty much see their bias, most recently with Howard Cohen. (I think I got his name correct — don’t know him at all.) I don’t expect a lovefest, but credit where credit is due, is lovely to see.

“Any image of Adam elicited cheers far greater than that of Kris, like some weird concert referendum.”

**I totally agree. Weird is right, especially if the screams elicited were coming from 50 and 60 year old women, glittered and glammed out. ::yikes:: As Simon would say, “just an opinion! Sorry.”

**I totally agree. Weird is right, especially if the screams elicited were coming from 50 and 60 year old women, glittered and glammed out. ::yikes:: As Simon would say, ‘just an opinion! Sorry.’ 

At the two concerts I went to, I saw many younger women (teens & 20′s screaming for Adam). I also saw young girls (tweeners) with Adam posters and shirts too, so it’s not just the cougers who like Adam.

**I totally agree. Weird is right, especially if the screams elicited were coming from 50 and 60 year old women, glittered and glammed out. ::yikes:: As Simon would say, ‘just an opinion! Sorry.’ 

At the Staples Concert in Los Angeles, the screams for Adam were coming from the teenage girls in front of me. I think all of the contestants have a cross section of fans. The one constant in the reviews seem to be that this is the best AI concert ever. Since this was my first one, I can’t compare. But I do note that as an interesting observation made by many critics.

Yesterday I took my daughter to the first (there were two the same day for 17,600 people each) Jonas Brothers concert and saw Jordin opening for them, it was the first concert for the JoBro and Jordin in my country(Mxico) and she did a good job, she struggled a little to get the crowd going because she ´s not very well known here but the girls in the audience were very polite and enthusiastic and even sang along to “No air”, she has a really beautiful and powerful voice and she looked great..oh! and she ´s taller than the Jonas hehe

$600/mo? Unbelievable.

In past years, some Idol alum mom (if that makes sense — the mom of somebody from the past) set up some kind of operation to help parents and spouses of Idol competitors find a place to stay in LA. I know whoever it was helped the Castros and Mercados in season 7, and then there were other unofficial sources of help, like Kristy Lee Cook’s and Syesha’s fiances stayed at Brooke White’s place with her husband during the course of the show.

In season 5, Elliott’s mom was sleeping on the couch at a cousin’s house or something like that and season 7, Cook’s mom flew back and forth every week (and she, too, got time off from her job). I think everybody knows the story by now of how Cook’s brother, Adam, who was sick, got to fly out for Mariah Carey week, with donations from lots of people in Indiana (including the special plane) plus help from the New York Mets’ David Wright, who donated anonymously to make it happen.

I guess the bottom line is that they find ways to make it work.

“At the two concerts I went to, I saw many younger women (teens & 20′s screaming for Adam). I also saw young girls (tweeners) with Adam posters and shirts too, so it’s not just the cougers who like Adam.” — BEST AI

That’s good, but I stand by my opinion.

“At the Staples Concert in Los Angeles, the screams for Adam were coming from the teenage girls in front of me. I think all of the contestants have a cross section of fans. The one constant in the reviews seem to be that this is the best AI concert ever. Since this was my first one, I can’t compare. But I do note that as an interesting observation made by many critics” — Undercooked

I saw last year’s concert and will soon be seeing this year’s. I’m certain the top 5 will put on a great show. Last year had the talent of Carly Smithson, Brooke White, DA (a huge fan favorite) and of course, DCook. Syesha M’s vocals took me by surprise last year. I was surprised that she actually gave me chills. Go figure.

I still think the fantarding is weird for grown women. Sorry! I’m sure Kris and Adam’s moms feel the same way. JMO

Okay, I was wrong about who it was. Not an Idol mom, just an Idol fan with a strong religious bent.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/bellesi-idol-syesha-2036443-jason-leesa

Which is kinda creepy, actually, if you’re not religious. But nice, too, so that the Castros and Mercados had a place to stay. I can understand why the ones who aren’t religious didn’t avail themselves of her hospitality, however. Cause I wouldn’t have sent my parents anywhere near that place, even though they probably would’ve been okay with it. But *I* wouldn’t!

I still think the fantarding is weird for grown women. Sorry! I'm sure Kris and Adam's moms feel the same way. JMO

I feel the same way, even though I do have a favorite from each season. It’s embarassing to see some older women act like teenagers.

I saw last year’s concert and will soon be seeing this year’s. I’m certain the top 5 will put on a great show. Last year had the talent of Carly Smithson, Brooke White, DA (a huge fan favorite) and of course, DCook. Syesha M’s vocals took me by surprise last year. I was surprised that she actually gave me chills. Go figure.

Yes, I agree. I recall the top 5 last year being very strong. Perhaps the production is better this year? I recall one review, could have been LA Times or USA Today, where the critic thought the this year’s show just seemed cooler than previous seasons. By the way, I am sure the elimination of the pop tarts was a big help in the cool area.

It’s pretty awesome. We’re on the stage together; don’t have to worry about anything anymore. We’re just doing our thing; it’s so much fun,’  said Idol Amanda Iraheta

:laugh_tb: :laugh_tb: SUch fail

At the Staples Concert in Los Angeles, the screams for Adam were coming from the teenage girls in front of me. I think all of the contestants have a cross section of fans. The one constant in the reviews seem to be that this is the best AI concert ever. Since this was my first one, I can’t compare. But I do note that as an interesting observation made by many critics.

Yeah, I saw some older fans, but the teen-scream was coming from the teens and there were a lot about. I never got that Adam=Cougar and Kris=Tween as while I think they have both (but urgh to the cougar label), Adam had the edge in tweens and teens overall. At least in LA.

The loud cheering before Adam comes out is probably everyone though, but the screams is mainly teens, with some twentysomethings and older joining in. The weird-looking, older Adam fans near me didn’t scream and squeal (just the teens), but they looked like they wanted to kill me sometimes. Have no clue what I did to offend them. The dad who adored Adam near me didn’t squeal either, just cheered loudly. His wife and kids were Adam fans as well (so they told me), but I oddly got the feeling HE dragged them out to see Adam.

I have nothing to compare about past AI gigs, but Adam and Matt made it worth my money, while the overall experience was fun.

I still want to see Afghan Idol as it looks interesting. I didn’t even think of it as a promo for AI.

Drake is trending on Twitter and it’s funny how some in the AI bubble immediately thought it was Adam’s Drake ;p

For those who don’t know Drake, he’s a rapper (a.k.a Jimmy from Degrassi) he fell and re injured a torn ACL.

I still think the fantarding is weird for grown women. Sorry! I’m sure Kris and Adam’s moms feel the same way. JMO

I feel the same way, even though I do have a favorite from each season. It’s embarassing to see some older women act like teenagers.

Eh, I don’t have an opinion on that, as long as everyone respects everyone’s personal space. I also would point out that the review from the AJC did not specify where the screams from Adam were coming from, but rather, the screams for him were the loudest. The writer stating that applaus was a concert referendum on the outcome of the show is something that will probably be said again. It’s unfortunate, but it is a reality, that the outcome of AI this season will cause some debate.

The good news is that everyone seems to believe both Kris and Adam are incredibly talented. There is no debate on that subject.

As for the older fans thing. I see nothing wrong with the guys having older fans. Allison and plenty of the female singers have them too.

“As for the older fans thing. I see nothing wrong with the guys having older fans. Allison and plenty of the female singers have them too.”

Squirrely I sooooo agree with you. I might be over 40, but I ain’t dead yet. I just have a problem with 40ish and up trying to act like their 16. It’s degrading.

I just have a problem with 40ish and up trying to act like their 16. It’s degrading.

To each, his moan! (or her).

Each year the popular male idol contestant have a predominantly “cougar” fanbase Clay, Taylor, Constantine, Blake, Cook, Adam. It’s nothing new. Look at the average age of idol viewers! The only male idol who broke out from a fraun fanbase into the real music world is Daughtry so far.

Squirrely I sooooo agree with you. I might be over 40, but I ain’t dead yet. I just have a problem with 40ish and up trying to act like their 16. It’s degrading.

I have a problem with 16 year olds acting like 16 year olds let alone anyone else. :laugh_tb:

But really, how did this turn into a discussion about Adam’s older fans when the original ACJ review didn’t even reference that?

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I just have a problem with 40ish and up trying to act like their 16. It’s degrading.

LOL – that can be a bit hard to watch (thank goodness I’m not 40 yet ;p ). I like seeing the older fans showing their love, support and appreciation for the artist, but yes in a respectful way.

removed my ETA: before the debate starts

I still think the fantarding is weird for grown women. Sorry! I’m sure Kris and Adam’s moms feel the same way. JMO

I don’t think their mom’s care as long as the women respect their sons, i.e. women not sticking their tongues into their son’s mouths.

As for women acting “like teens,” I say let them. I don’t see what’s so wrong with someone acting excited about something. Now I don’t recommend for anyone, younger or older, to act disrespectfully, but having fun at a concert, dancing around? Fine. The screaming throughout the entire song so you can’t hear it? I don’t get at any age, so I don’t find it any more, or less weird when older women do it than younger. Especially to the idols at the barricades. As Adam has said ‘I don’t get it. I’m right here, you don’t have to scream.’ And I agree totally. Or like Kris said in the above article, when people are shaking and crying to meet him, yeah, it’s not that big of a deal. They’re just people who did music on a karaoke show and gave a concert. Eh.

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I still think the fantarding is weird for grown women. Sorry! I’m sure Kris and Adam’s moms feel the same way. JMO

I don’t know why you think Adam and Kris’ mons would feel like that. I remember in her blog, Adam’s dad’s girlfriend wrote how she and Adam’s mom re-watched Adam’s performance and they cheered like girls.

I’m in my twenties and I will NOT be embarressed if my mom cheers for her favorite in a concert and live with the moment. Actually I’ll be happy for her because she deserves to have some fun.

mj Aug 1st, 2009 at 2:00 pm

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Nice picture of Anoop.

ETA: http://twitpic.com/ceel9

But really, how did this turn into a discussion about Adam’s older fans when the original ACJ review didn’t even reference that? .

I don’t know, but I have never seen a fanbase so obsessed with fanbases until AI. I guess it’s the nature of the way the show hands control over to the audience, so it makes it part of the story. I don’t think it matters in regards to age (whether Adam has teens screaming for him or some dad rocking out), but how one goes about being a fan and fanbase issues tend to start when they care less about music, more about their own investment (like those bunny chicks).

By the way, I like Megan’s do. However, her Bride of Frankstein beehive amused me as well.

DavidArchuleta and Crush are trending #3 and #2, respectively on Twitter right now, LOL. They were trending when I went to bed last night and are still trending this morning. August 1 is the one year anniversary of Crush debuting on Z100, so the fans are paying a tribute. VERY COOL!

I don’t know, but I have never seen a fanbase so obsessed with fanbases until AI.

So funny and sadly so true.

**I totally agree. Weird is right, especially if the screams elicited were coming from 50 and 60 year old women, glittered and glammed out. ::yikes:: As Simon would say, ‘just an opinion! Sorry.’ 

In LR and Memphis the people screaming at Adam’s picture were mostly young teenage girls. The only 50 year old women I saw screaming at Idol pictures, was for Kris’ picture in LR.

And I didn’t see any “glittered and glammed out” older women at either concert. I know they are at some concerts not mine. But there were a lot of young women and some young men wearing Adam T’s in Memphis.

The funnist fan thing I saw was a bunch of tween girls wearing matching green plaid shirts in LR.

MJs Kris pic

http://twitpic.com/cehul

What is MJ tweeting about? Where are they?

I don’t know why you think Adam and Kris’ mons would feel like that. I remember in her blog, Adam’s dad’s girlfriend wrote how she and Adam’s mom re-watched Adam’s performance and they cheered like girls.

I’m in my twenties and I will NOT be embarressed if my mom cheers for her favorite in a concert and live with the moment. Actually I’ll be happy for her because she deserves to have some fun.

Thank you, BeckyMD and so true!! We don’t have this chronological alarm that goes of at certain parts of our life to tell us we can’t do, feel, act and believe a certain way. Sure, there is social decorum, but if these things make someone happy if only for a few hours, then that is what entertainment is about. Probably the 50- and 60-year-old women were reveling in feeling excited about something and someone other than their daily lives and litany of problems that most everyone has these days. Likely they were dressing for themselves, not for the approval of anyone else and I say more power to them.

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It looks like Matt is rockin’ a Daughtry beard there.

HotHotHot Aug 1st, 2009 at 2:17 pm

What is MJ tweeting about? Where are they?

She’s at the buses meeting the idols before the concert in NC.

ETA: Matt and Michael
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Deleted the bitter part.;-)

Sarver held another tweeter party last night, which you all pretty much know by now. It’s fun if you just play along (and are on Twitter, anyway). The MFB telecast did not happen–Aaron Spears and company tired, but they couldn’t get the audio/video to work–but I am sure there will be another one now. MJ is uploading photos if you link to Twitter. They are working on having another one soon, maybe even this afternoon…

Wow, Kris and Katy’s place for $600/month. Try $2000/month in the Boston area…

Back to Twitter to see mj’s photos.

I’m excited for mj right now and hoping she has a good time tonight. Is that odd? Hmm. I hope I’m not fantarding mj now! Maybe my Adam fantarding is contagious?

Nyah. I’m just bored at work and living vicariously through people. Phew! I can go back to pretending to be sane. And go back to being bored at work. Yaawnn.

But cool she already has a pics of presh Kris, Matt and hometown Anoop. I really think Anoop is going to have a good crowd tonight and am happy for him.

According to the Orlando Sentinel, Adam will indeed be on the View nest week.

Because of the star power, Thursday and Friday are must-see days. I know many “American Idol” fans want to hear from Adam Lambert. And Meryl Streep is receiving raves — OK, nothing new for her — for playing Julia Child in “Julie & Julia.”

Link:

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/08/the-view-next-week-meryl-streep-adam-lambert-selena-gomez-regis-philbin-and-cast-of-broadways-hair.html

Sunn, I heard Adam’s appearance on The View was canceled, but maybe not. Hopeful!

I have to laugh…. LOL The person responsible for Archies shiney suit fessed up on twitter! LOL

#DavidArchuleta is a cutie ..I loved working w/him..he is so quirky and cute..I turned him into shiny suit man 4the tour..his voice is butta

Everyoooooone has a #crush on #DavidArchuleta…of all the Idols each night he got more and more screams…it use 2 make him nervously laugh

She loves his voice and loves him! such a fan.

suebrody
Aug 1st, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Sunn, I heard Adam’s appearance on The View was canceled, but maybe not. Hopeful!

The Sentinel says it’s on, so we’ll see I guess.

But cool she already has a pics of presh Kris, Matt and hometown Anoop. I really think Anoop is going to have a good crowd tonight and am happy for him.

It’s going to be crazy for him.

@Sunn, I just checked the “View” website and they don’t have him listed for Thursday, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he won’t be. I’ll be DVRing just in case though!

A fun piece from the Gwinnett Daily Post. If you’re interested in what some of the Idols did while in Atlanta, among other things:

http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/main.asp?SectionID=6&SubSectionID=84&ArticleID=62780

Susan M. Aug 1st, 2009 at 2:39 pm

@Sunn, I just checked the ‘View’  website and they don’t have him listed for Thursday, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he won’t be. I’ll be DVRing just in case though!

Maybe they don’t want an influx of groupies in their audience – so they removed him from the billing? Eh I’ll wait around for video – being I have to work that day anyway.

I meet quite a number of woman in their 50′s and 60′s at, before and after the concerts I attended — some were Adam fans but Kris and Danny have their share of fans over 50, too.

I was actually surprised to see crowds that were only about 60% female for my concerts, and many straight guys cheering only for Adam. And as far as I can tell, there is no typical Kris or Adam fan. (I even met Adam fans from Arkansas.)

The only thing I did notice is that most of the people (male and female) who were over 40 were there to see Adam and/or Danny. Mostly Adam. Maybe it’s because we grew up with Led Zepp, Bowie, Queen, and so on — metal, theatrical and electronic rock.

All I know is, Adam seems to be in the right place at the right time. And he really might have a shot of making it outside of the Idol universe. We’ll see soon enough. (Well maybe not soon enough for me.)

I was gonna buy another copy of Adam’s Rolling Stone but it’s sold out. :dry_tb:

I’m glad MJ’s getting to meet some of the Idols this afternoon!

Susan M.
Aug 1st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
@Sunn, I just checked the ‘View’  website and they don’t have him listed for Thursday, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he won’t be. I’ll be DVRing just in case though!

You’re right, they only have Regis listed. I’m now confused.

Thursday, August 6, 2009
Regis Philbin from Who Wants To Be A Millionaire and Live with Regis & Kelly joins. Plus, it’s time — Sherri is revealing her bathing suit body LIVE!

ETA:

star
Aug 1st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
I was gonna buy another copy of Adam’s Rolling Stone but it’s sold out.

That just made my evening. ( The fact that Adam sold out the issue that is, not that you can’t get a copy star.)

Great news for Anoop fans.

Seems Allison’s album will be ahead of Kris’.

http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/main.asp?SectionID=6&SubSectionID=84&ArticleID=62780

“Allen, Iraheta, Desai, MacIntyre and Sarver all have plans in the works to release albums coming off the tour.

Desai is in talks about a record deal.

“I hope that solidifies itself before the end of the summer,” he said.

Iraheta’s album is expected to drop in the fall, followed by Allen’s in November.”

Susan M. Aug 1st, 2009 at 2:39 pm

@Sunn, I just checked the ‘View’  website and they don’t have him listed for Thursday, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he won’t be. I’ll be DVRing just in case though!

Maybe they don’t want an influx of groupies in their audience – so the removed from the billing? Eh I’ll wait around for video – being I have to work that day anyway.

Here’s what’s on the site for 8/6:

Thursday’s Show
Sherri’s Bathing Suit Body!
Regis Philbin from Who Wants To Be A Millionaire and Live with Regis & Kelly joins. Plus, it’s time — Sherri is revealing her bathing suit body LIVE!

I don’t recall The View ever keeping a guest secret. And if he was going to be on, I would think they would list it. I’m certain they are more interested in ratings than any “groupie” issue.

My guess is the blogger for the Orlando Sentinel is wrong. But I hope it’s right.

Iraheta’s album is expected to drop in the fall, followed by Allen’s in November.’ 

Last time i checked november is in the fall.

I remember the AI show provided mainly only pizza after the show. And now they only have burger and shakes in the bus? They don’t care much about these idols’ health.

“I won’t eat dinner when we have shows because we have food on the bus when we get out,” Desai said. “We’ll be on the bus at midnight and it’ be burgers and shakes and stuff, so I have to keep in shape somehow.”

http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/main.asp?SectionID=6&SubSectionID=84&ArticleID=62780

Iraheta’s album is expected to drop in the fall, followed by Allen’s in November.’ 

Last time i checked november is in the fall.

Poorly writen but on Jive’s release schedule Kris’ album is listed with a November release date; Allison’s is just listed as “Fall” with no month.

My guess is the blogger for the Orlando Sentinel is wrong. But I hope it’s right.

Maybe he didn’t get the cancellation notice!

“Iraheta’s album is expected to drop in the fall’ followed by Allen’s in November”.

Does this writer live in the US?

Maybe he didn’t get the cancellation notice!

I guess he should visit MJ’s and find out what is really going on. Or perhaps check the show’s official schedule!

From the link BeckyMD posted:

“We’ve been pumped about Atlanta because we know where Atlanta stands on the love scale,” Sarver said. “We hear about the votes and where they come from, trust me.”

I didn’t think anyone ever got info on the geographic distro of votes? I Michael really special?

Desai is in talks about a record deal.

This makes his talk about solo concert less far-stretched…

I guess Matt is in talks with some labels too. Hope we can hear from him soon.

I remember the AI show provided mainly only pizza after the show. And now they only have burger and shakes in the bus? They don’t care much about these idols’ health.

‘I won’t eat dinner when we have shows because we have food on the bus when we get out,’  Desai said. ‘We’ll be on the bus at midnight and it’

I wonder what Adam is eating. I thought he ate a lot of health food and salads. No wonder he gained weight, and I have a feeling he has that tendency. He did say he loves to eat out because he loves good food.

American Idols Live! at Gwinnett Arena – Slide show of last night’s concert from Access Atanta.

http://projects.accessatlanta.com/gallery/view/entertainment/american-idol/american-idols-live-2009/#thbz_hm

Caution – double alert for Kris fans over 40/50 #16 and a 50 Adam fan #17 that gives us not so young fans a bad name.

I wonder what Adam is eating. I thought he ate a lot of health food and salads. No wonder he gained weight, and I have a feeling he has that tendency. He did say he loves to eat out because he loves good food.

When I saw Adam, he def did not need to loose any more weight. He certainly has lost weight since the show.

I’m in my twenties and I will NOT be embarressed if my mom cheers for her favorite in a concert and live with the moment. Actually I’ll be happy for her because she deserves to have some fun.

Thank you! I went with my daughter and those were her thoughts exactly. I wasn’t glammed or glittered. I didn’t scream at the videos, but after each of Adam’s songs, my cheering turned into screams. I surprised myself because I’m a quiet person and avoid making a spectacle. It was spontaneous. But, you know what? I’m not at all embarrassed nor was my daughter. I often use music and/or dance to take me to a place where my many responsibilities in life melt away into a feeling of peacefulness and bliss. I believe you have to enjoy these precious moments because they are rare. I will never apologize for that nor feel guilty or silly.

The only thing I did notice is that most of the people (male and female) who were over 40 were there to see Adam and/or Danny. Mostly Adam. Maybe it’s because we grew up with Led Zepp, Bowie, Queen, and so on ‘” metal, theatrical and electronic rock.

I think that’s a big part of it!

Hmm, I wonder if it’s okay to follow mj’s Tweets here as she did post her Tweet about following her on Twitter in this thread, and as I don’t like using actual Twitter. Yes, I do think it’s the devil, though I do like so much of what can be gotten from it. I’m kind of hypocrite about Twitter actually.

Anyhew, according to mj’s Tweets, peeps were shouting for Allison and Adam at the barricades. I really wish people wouldn’t do that. See now THAT I think is rude to the people there. Not to mention that Adam doesn’t come out before shows, and that’s totally fine to me. He does afterwards (with only a few odd exceptioins), and Allison doesn’t come out much beforehand either. And if they are doing that to give as good a show as they can later? Than more power to them. It’s great that others can and do sign beforehand, and I think it’s fine and dandy not to.

I didn’t think anyone ever got info on the geographic distro of votes? I Michael really special?

I doubt they have access to the real data, but producers or asst may give them some general second-hand idea about how the whole show (not individual voting) was received across the country.

She’s at the buses meeting the idols before the concert in NC.

ETA: Matt and Michael
http://twitpic.com/cej6l -3 minutes ago from TwitPic

do the idols know this is The MJ of Mjsbigblog? it’ll be soo cool if they do know..especially Matt cos it looks like he reads this blog

Anyhew, according to mj’s Tweets, peeps were shouting for Allison and Adam at the barricades. I really wish people wouldn’t do that. See now THAT I think is rude to the people there. Not to mention that Adam doesn’t come out before shows, and that’s totally fine to me.

This. How come those fans never get the message? Adam doesn’t go out in the afternoon. It must be frustrating for the other idols.

When I saw Adam, he def did not need to loose any more weight. He certainly has lost weight since the show.

And he keeps losing weight judged from last night’s videos. There are 32 (?) more concerts to go. I hope these idols take good care of themselves.

Q3-I was actually surprised to see crowds that were only about 60% female for my concerts, and many straight guys cheering only for Adam. And as far as I can tell, there is no typical Kris or Adam fan.

Q3, I had the exact experience at the Tampa show. I spoke to many people before and after ( I am pretty outgoing) and I was amazed at the cross section of Adam fans. Almost all the people I talked were there for Adam, and they weren’t necessarily dressed like it.
The group of women that I bought my ticket from(one of their number couldn’t make it and I got a great seat) were avid Adam fans and they were all in their late twenties and early thirties.
I also saw alot of guys and kids with Adam t-shirts. It really was amazing.

I doubt they have access to the real data, but producers or asst may give them some general second-hand idea about how the whole show (not individual voting) was received across the country.

Telescope (the firm that tabulates the vote) has always said that no one, not even the producers, have access to the geographic vote disto. And didn’t Nigel say that the producers only know the bottom three and the lowest vote getter when this year’s Final 5 had Adam in Bottom 2?

I think Michael is thinking of the overnight ratings, versus votes. Usually, the AI viewer share is highest in the Southeast – Carolinas, Georgia and Tennessee.

Allen saw “The Hangover” solo, while other Idols, including Allison Iraheta, took in “Bruno” after doing some shopping.

Bruno is rated R — for VERY racy. I wonder if Adam was one of the adults accompanying Allison (and talking her through it). And I guess Kris really had no interest in seeing it, if he chose to attend another movie ALONE?

This. How come those fans never get the message? Adam doesn’t go out in the afternoon. It must be frustrating for the other idols.

Not everyone reads the internet and knows that Adam doesn’t sign in the afternoon.

Not everyone reads the internet and knows that Adam doesn’t sign in the afternoon.

Ya, but don’t you think fans who are willing to wait for hours in the hot afternoon by the buses are somewhat hardcore and are likely to know what’s going on? I just feel bad for them.

Allen saw ‘The Hangover’  solo, while other Idols, including Allison Iraheta, took in ‘Bruno’  after doing some shopping.

Bruno is rated R ‘” for VERY racy. I wonder if Adam was one of the adults accompanying Allison (and talking her through it). And I guess Kris really had no interest in seeing it, if he chose to attend another movie ALONE?

Well, though I haven’t seen it, but from the clips and trailers, “The Hangover” is no “Princess Diaries.” And I haven’t seen “Bruno,” but holy hell, “Borat” was one of the hardest R movies I’d ever seen. (Sick beyond belief, but hysterically funny.)

You only have to be 17 to get into R movies. Allison is allowed. I love going to movies by myself, BTW, it’s very relaxing and you always get to see what you want. :- )

Thanks Susan M., I mistakenly thought you had to be 18 for an R movie. I haven’t seen Bruno either, but it has been described by many critics as really pushing the envelope as far as adult content goes. In fact, the studio had to edit some scenes for it to avoid an NC-17 rating. Just a little surprised at the choice for Allison, but I’m sure she survived.

The ladies on the view discussed the movie Bruno. Whoopi said it was NOT a movie to take your kids too. she said it had a few funny bits but she wasnt into movies where you watched a giant penis on the screen rofl. Maybe that explains why Kris didnt go.

Here is a link to Adam in a 2000 Mt. Carmel High School Production that I referenced in the concert thread last night. People asked for the link, so here it’s below. Video quality is not that good, and the show is a bit odd. Adam sings “War” starts around 1:50. He’s sure come a long way, but was even pretty good at 18.

MCHS Airbands 2000 – Raid

Here is a link to Adam in a 2000 Mt. Carmel High School Production that I referenced in the concert thread last night. People asked for the link, so here it’s below. Video quality is not that good, and the show is a bit odd. Adam sings ‘War’  starts around 1:50. He’s sure come a long way, but was even pretty good at 18.

Watching adam at 18 puts into light how special allison really is.

http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/07-07-2009/0005056214&EDATE=

Here is an Article showing the top Espanol yahoo searches for June. Adam Is Number 4

Also he appeared in the top 2 of Celebrity searches:

In addition to the most popular overall topics, Yahoo! Pop also reveals the Top Ten Searches in six other categories: entertainment, music, technology, celebrities, news and sports. During the month of June, Adam Lambert and Transformers 2 star Megan Fox were the most searched for in the celebrity category

A fun piece from the Gwinnett Daily Post. If you’re interested in what some of the Idols did while in Atlanta, among other things:

http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/main.asp?SectionID=6&SubSectionID=84&ArticleID=62780

Thanks for that link, LisaE! FYI – there’s a slideshow after the article. Some of the pics are fantastic! And the photog totally captured the moment when Adam hit the glory note on DSB and Kris cheered him! It’s #9 in the slideshow. Other great shots as well!

Thanks Susan M., I mistakenly thought you had to be 18 for an R movie. I haven’t seen Bruno either, but it has been described by many critics as really pushing the envelope as far as adult content goes. In fact, the studio had to edit some scenes for it to avoid an NC-17 rating. Just a little surprised at the choice for Allison, but I’m sure she survived.

I agree, Bruno is a big step beyond Borat — but maybe they really wanted to see Paula in it.

I wonder who else saw Bruno? Matt and Megan seem likely. And too bad Kris ended up going to a movie alone.

Both movies are R rated – so it’s not like Kris went to a PG move. Frankly, having seen both, I would go to see The Hangover with Kris and pass on Brà ¼no.

The Hangover – Rated R for pervasive language, sexual content including nudity, and some drug material.

Brà ¼no – Rated R for pervasive strong and crude sexual content, graphic nudity and language. (The had to edit the US version for the UK and some other EU countries.)

I think if Adam was there, it would be referenced in the article. And It would have probably been on Twitter. Even his walk along the beach in Florida got tweeted and interupted by fans who “got the Adam tweet alert”.

I know that Adam likes costumes, but I wonder how he feels about disguises?

Wow, dhunken, that is amazing, especially because we know No. 1 and 2 would be givens.

I agree, Bruno is a big step beyond Borat ‘” but maybe they really wanted to see Paula in it.

LOL!!! I completely forgot that she’s in it! Wow, I would LOVE to have seen all of their reactions. Paula feels extremely humiliated and angry about her “cameo” in that movie — I believe she even fired her publicist for getting her involved in it. So it was definitely not on her recommendation that they saw it!

Watching adam at 18 puts into light how special allison really is.

So true. Allison is really special. I don’t ever recall hearing anyone at 17 sound like her. Her stage presense, however, is a bit too manic and she bounces around the stage so much, it just doesn’t fit her voice. I think that’s part of the reason Slow Ride in my favorite Allison performance in the concert — she is more controled vocally and in her stage presence. But, hell, she’s 17.

Also to be fair, Adam is a whole lot better in other things he did when he was a teen. The Mt. Carmel graduation song is amazing and he was also 18 for that. But even that performance pales in comparison to Adam’s Bigadoon “Come to Me, Bend to Me” when Adam was 22.

It will be interesting to hear Adam in a few years. As he gets older, he should develop more of his lower range – vocalists usually do. There aren’t a lot of pre-Idol Adam performances were Adam uses much of his baritone range, but I would love to hear more of it.

Q3 Aug 1st, 2009 at 4:34 pm

Watching adam at 18 puts into light how special allison really is.

So true. Allison is really special. I don’t ever recall hearing anyone at 17 sound like her. Her stage presense, however, is a bit too manic and she bounces around the stage so much, it just doesn’t fit her voice. I think that’s part of the reason Slow Ride in my favorite Allison performance in the concert ‘” she is more controled vocally and in her stage presence. But, hell, she’s 17.

Also to be fair, Adam is a whole lot better in other things he did when he was a teen. The Mt. Carmel graduation song is amazing and he was also 18 for that. But even that performance pales in comparison to Adam’s Bigadoon ‘Come to Me, Bend to Me’  when Adam was 22.

It will be interesting to hear Adam in a few years. As he gets older, he should develop more of his lower range – vocalists usually do. There aren’t a lot of pre-Idol Adam performances were Adam uses much of his baritone range, but I would love to hear more of it.

Allison has taken “performance” classes (according to her bio in 2007 for her fan club) for a few years plus sang in an oldies band for years. And to be fair that was a cheezy high school production. He was much better than that. At 19 he was performing in “Hair” in Europe.

So true. Allison is really special. I don’t ever recall hearing anyone at 17 sound like her.

Two words: Christina Aguilera.

“I feel the same way, even though I do have a favorite from each season. It’s embarassing to see some older women act like teenagers.”

- I think the reason why older women get attracted to Adam is not only because he exudes great talent and stage presence but he also projects a free spirit. He stays true to himself and enjoys life. This is why some older women acts like teenagers. They finally feel that it’s ok to let go of their emotions. Anyway, from what I have seen and experienced, Adam has lots of teen and tween fans too and do they scream a lot. Having older fans is a plus for Adam because they are the ones who got the money to watch his concerts and buy his albums. Besides, don’t bash the older fans because all of us will also become old and I wonder if I will also behave that way when that time comes.

American history is jam-packed with sexist language. “Frauen”, besides racist, though possibly the Germanic slur is unintended, is right up there, sexistly lumping all women who are having a good time into some deranged, delusional category. So what if they go crazy? For all any of us know this is the first time in 50 years they didn’t care what other people think. And wouldn’t this be a happier world if we all stopped caring about stern, narrow judgments.

Unless she’s blocking your view at the concert, or jeapardizing your — and the musical idol’s– hearing screaming at the barricades, any woman who’s paid her 65 bucks gets to enjoy herself. Even if that adds up to a dollar a year in her age.

And probably if any of us stopped to think it through, we might decide that whatever our age, we’d rather be one of the women who’s feeling free and happy. And not one of the women who judges others. Are all those women in NC in the pic MJ tweeted having a delusional fantasy life? Doubt it. Are some? Possibly. But the older ones might actually be more in touch with reality than a kid. (And possibly not crazy enough to wait in the hot sun.) And those folks signing the autographs seem to value them, no age requirement assessed.

Apparently, Adam Lambert votes for freedom of enjoyment. Remember this story from a woman of a certain age:

I managed to get into the front row, and he noticed my over-the-top outfit and told me that he liked my Glambert shirt! I thanked him and then said:

Eowyn: “Thank you for making me feel young again” – to which he responded,

Adam: “It was my pleasure, but when were you ever old?”

“Here is a link to Adam in a 2000 Mt. Carmel High School Production that I referenced in the concert thread last night. People asked for the link, so here it’s below. Video quality is not that good, and the show is a bit odd. Adam sings ‘War’  starts around 1:50. He’s sure come a long way, but was even pretty good at 18.”–Q3

AIRband. xD That’s him lip-syncing. The graduation video is him actually singing, though. Airbands, to my knowledge were more about successfully dancing/lip-syncing, and telling a story. Just, don’t want to confuse people… that’s not actually him singing, I’m pretty sure…

Allison has taken ‘performance’  classes (according to her bio in 2007 for her fan club) for a few years plus sang in an oldies band for years. And to be fair that was a cheezy high school production. He was much better than that. At 19 he was performing in ‘Hair’  in Europe.

I agree that is by far the worst thing I have ever see Adam do. And is not representative of his talent. But even with the crappy video and bad production, in a supporting role, he already was the most memorable performer on the stage.

Allison’s been coached by John Michael Ferrari, Dynamic Song Performance, an Acting and Song Performance Coach for a few years. Since he focuses heavily on persentation, stage personality and styling vs. vocal coaching, I’m actually frighted to think about how manic her performance might be if she didn’t have years of coaching in this area. Personally, I wish she has a real vocal coach because her vocal technique is not great IMHO.

Anyway, from what I have seen and experienced, Adam has lots of teen and tween fans too and do they scream a lot. Having older fans is a plus for Adam because they are the ones who got the money to watch his concerts and buy his albums.

Yes – no one buys more CD’s and goes to more concerts than older women. I remember hearing this argument many times in 2006. Or wait, was it 2003?

Tween fans will always leave for the next hot new thing. But the older women stick around forever – or until the next season of American Idol at least.

FifthHouseSun – you have said it better. That’s a wise response from Adam to his fan of a certain age. Life is short. Enjoy it while we can.

You know what? I didn’t even realize that Poptarts didn’t sponsor the tour this year. No wonder I didn’t get my free poptarts after the show! LOL

Great video of Adam’s Crazy posted 7/30 on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXUZ1IHn5AA

And wouldn’t this be a happier world if we all stopped caring about stern, narrow judgments.

Here, here! To you, FifthHouseSun~ :drunk_tb:

So true. Allison is really special. I don’t ever recall hearing anyone at 17 sound like her.

Two words: Christina Aguilera.

No knock on Allison but Christina was much better than her, even at 15. Frankly, so were Pat Benetar, Chrissie Hynde, Mariah Carah, Dionne Warwick, Judy Garland and many other 17 year old singers.

“I don’t ever recall hearing anyone at 17 sound like her.” — not that she was better than anyone I ever heard at 17. She has a very distinctive vocal style — not exactly raspy or gravely, something different.

Even look at the three artists she covers in the Idol Tour – Pink, Janice and Nancy Wilson (Heart). She doesn’t sound like any of them.

For all the discussion of how distinctive Adam is vocally, at least he reminds me of Freddy Mercury and Meatloaf and even some Bowie. But I have trouble classifying Allison’s voice.

Evidently the cell caster for tonight’s show has backed out, so we might have a 3rd straight show with nothing but tweets.

Are all those women in NC in the pic MJ tweeted having a delusional fantasy life? Doubt it. Are some? Possibly. But the older ones might actually be more in touch with reality than a kid. (And possibly not crazy enough to wait in the hot sun.) And those folks signing the autographs seem to value them, no age requirement assessed.

There are lots of 40 women in MJ crowd picture. And, for the most part, these were not Adam fans waiting for autographs.

Josiah Leming tweet:

josiahmusicGoing on tour with better than ezra in september, and super stoked about it!

http://www.twitter.com/josiahmusic

Yay for Josiah! Hope that means his CD is coming soon.

Having older fans is a plus for Adam because they are the ones who got the money to watch his concerts and buy his albums. Besides, don’t bash the older fans because all of us will also become old and I wonder if I will also behave that way when that time comes.

So true, lola. Older fans buy hard copy CD’s. Teens are much more likely to stream free (even if it’s a YouTube soundtrack) and not even single iTunes download.

And, yes, if the fates are kind, everyone gets older in body. May we all stay young in spirit.

Anyone who cares about the music biz, must read Charles Blow’s fact filled op-ed in the NY Times today. Here’s one interesting fact, that has some meaning for Idol futures:

13 million songs for sale online last year, 10 million never got a single buyer and 80 percent of all revenue came from about 52,000 songs. That’s less than one percent of the songs.

Two words: Christina Aguilera.

Christina has a clear, powerful voice which is not raspy and has a wide vocal range, she was fantastic even at 13.

But I have trouble classifying Allison’s voice.

To my ear she her voice is sort of like Kim Carnes (She’s Got Bette
Davis Eyes).

Adam is trending #5 on Twitter. And the tweets that are doing it are mostly Adam Lambert Tweets along with “Who’s Adam” tweets. Is there a reason for this?

Q3 Aug 1st, 2009 at 5:37 pm

Adam is trending #5 on Twitter. And the tweets that are doing it are mostly Adam Lambert Tweets along with ‘Who’s Adam’  tweets. Is there a reason for this?

This is just a guess but it could be Adam Lambert and Adam Sandler (New movie Funny People came out this weekend) causing Adam to Trend.

Q3, There are two other Adam tweets that mingle with the Lambert ones. Adam Sandler, who has a new movie, and “Adam”, the movie. There are also a lot of sports figures named Adam. And some ongoing Adam & Eve jokes/puzzlers.

Now one of the things movie producers try to do to is get people reading good tweet reviews about their movies. Because bad reviews can tank a weekend before the second show on Friday. Organized sock puppetry is not unknown. It wouldn’t be surprising if the cinematic “Adam” were not trying to ride some blue leather coattails. I’ve noticed the movies coming up a lot anytime I twit searched Idol names around concerts just to see if that city is holding the audience leaning trend.

^yeah the Adam thing is from the movie too. adam stans are just taking advantage of it. Since Funny People is trending currently.

btw #crush is still at #2 lol and #davidarchuleta is still up there as well

Didn’t see this posted anywhere. It’s a fun interview of David Cook with Jack Diamond, radio host in D.C. Enjoy~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZGDWrRF0ac

Q3, There are two other Adam tweets that mingle with the Lambert ones. Adam Sandler, who has a new movie, and ‘Adam’ , the movie. There are also a lot of sports figures named Adam. And some ongoing Adam & Eve jokes/puzzlers.

Yes, there are a bunch of things doing it. There’s also a twitquiz with Adam for the answer — and not Lambert.

But the biggest laugh is that it looks like it started because Drake trended and people thought that was Adam’s Drake. LMAO.

I guess it’s Archie day on Twitter:

#crush is trending #2, looks like it may hit #1 and David Archuleta is also #10.

Plus people tried to trend #no4h8 and instead “No more emo twitters” got trended – now #5.

adamland: To my ear she her voice is sort of like Kim Carnes (She’s Got Bette Davis Eyes).

Oh, definitely not. Kim Carnes’ voice was raspy (and very much so). Allison’s is husky, and isn’t raspy other than on some occasions when she strains to do some really high stuff. I could not stand Bette Davis Eyes because of that rasp. (In Kim Carnes’ defense, I seem to recall reading at the time that she had some medical problem that caused her voice to be so raspy.) And in the small number of Kim Carnes songs I know (like, a couple or three :smile_wp:), I don’t recall her ever showing the power, range, or full-bodied tone that Allison has. Maybe there was something more in some of her other work, though.

Did anyone ever see or hear anything further about the band’s supposed live streaming show today?

For all the discussion of how distinctive Adam is vocally, at least he reminds me of Freddy Mercury and Meatloaf and even some Bowie.

Out of curiosity, do you still consider him distinctive vocally? I agree that he reminds me of Mercury and a couple others, but he doesn’t sound quite like them.

Also, I’ve heard the adjective “whiskey-soaked” or “guinness-soaked” used to describe female voices that are really deep and husky but not raspy exactly. That seems to apply to Allison, I think. When I first heard her, she reminded be a bit of Joplin, but her voice is beautiful in a way that Joplin’s wasn’t (which doesn’t make it better or worse, just different).

Thanks weareallinnocent for that David Cook interview. He’s a sweetie isn’t he?

Article in Disney Dreaming:

Today Twitter has been bombarded with users talking about David Archuleta and his hit song ‘Crush.’  Both #DavidArchuleta and #Crush have been trending topics for a number of hours ‘“ but why you ask?

Turns out that today is the one year anniversary of David’s song Crush. Wow!

We are so impressed that an entire 12 months later people are still in love with this song! That is SO rare for artists nowadays!

Congratulations to David Archuleta ‘“ in order to celebrate correctly we are currently listening to the song Crush. What about you?

^^

I loved how Shontelle was totally into it last night and today. Too many tweets to mention. She was getting all her peeps into it. heh

Also some cute tweets from AI peeps for him.

Carly’s cracked me up!

@DavidArchie Mc Nugget ur a trending topic !! Its been a whole year ? WoW ……. U look taller ?

@DavidArchie Since its ur #Crushiversary I should prob get u a gift . Im thinking lettuce or pad thai ?

Syesha

Hey @DavidArchie, congrats on your one year anniversary of #Crush or should I say #Crushiversary … LOL Yay for #DavidArchuleta Luv ya!

@Syesha Thanks Syesha!! I was in Sarasota the other day by the way! We all thought of you! haha

Awe… @DavidArchie I’m getting ready for a show in 3 hours but I was still able to squeeze in 2 plays of #Crush… LOL You have great fans!

@Syesha Haha! Well good luck with the show! Congrats on that by the way! So cool!!

@davidarchie Check out this fancy dance video of us. Miss you!!! http://padackles1028.blip.tv/

Brooke

Hey hey @davidarchie I just heard #crush is a trending topic! Woohoo:-)

@Davidarchie “cause I know this #CRUSH ain’t going away-yay-yay-yay-yeah!!!”

@DavidArchie “welcome to miami bienvenido a Miami” i just Googled the lyrics cause I tried to spell it “en-denido- an-dayami”I was close LOL

@realbrookewhite Hahaha! that sounds a little similar to something else haha. But thanks!

@DavidArchie hahaha!oh no,right after I sent the tweet I was worried that I might’ve accidently spelled or said something that I shouldn’t:/

@realbrookewhite Haha. Well the thing it reminded me of isn’t bad so no worries.

And Jordin

@DavidArchie Congrats David! I am SO proud of you!!

@TheRealJordin Gracias mija! Your new album is great!

^^ Ick! Quotes failure and it won’t let me edit.

@davidarchie Check out this fancy dance video of us. Miss you!!! http://padackles1028.blip.tv/

~SIGH~ Season 7, those were the days, my friend.

Ozarka – I just watched that Season 7 dance video. Fun, wasn’t it? Still boggles my mind that Michael Johns and Cookie got in trouble with the powers that be for doing their little MAVID dances, which everyone loved.

http://padackles1028.blip.tv/

What a bunch of robots ( :rolleyes_tb: @ simon)

The only male idol who broke out from a fraun fanbase into the real music world is Daughtry so far.

That’s true to an extent. DAUGHTRY is still very much a chick rock band and a majority of their fans are in fact chicks (that span a wide spectrum of ages). But, the one thing that Chris and co. have been able to do that the other male Idols haven’t been able to is to harness the other part of the “Nickelbase” beyond chicks. DAUGHTRY has tapped the male “Nascar demo” more than any other guy from the show.

Now the audience at David Cook’s shows seems to look a lot like what you find on the AI tour– in other words, anywhere from children under 10 to older people in their sixties. However, I get a sense that this broad mix includes a great lot of boyfriends and husbands (and sometimes children too) who were “dragged along”.

And I think I can state with a fair amount of confidence that David Archuleta’s fan base is overwhelmingly female as well. And other than the Davids and DAUGHTRY, there aren’t really any other Idol-produced acts that are playing in the “big leagues”, anymore (until Kris and Adam release).

An important point got lost in the discussion about “frau” and “cougars”, how they should behave at concerts, and whether it’s appropriate to describe women with those terms. That point is that regardless of the answer to these questions, the reason that topic is even germane is precisely because male Idols’ fans are primarily all female. In the case of this debate, it is certain females who are having aspersions cast on them about their conduct at concerts, and these aspersions are being cast by… other females.

And for any male Idol, I think it will be hard to remain in the “big leagues” of music for an extended amount of years without cultivating a decent-sized base of male fans. Clay began his career like gangbusters but ultimately couldn’t sustain it because he never could grow his fanbase beyond his devoted following of “mommies”. Right now Adam and Kris start with the same base, the one which the Davids have struggled to build upon so far, along with every other guy from the show except Chris D.

In Adam’s case, I think he’ll find a lot of resistance fom the “Nascar demo”, but the X factor that could catapult him to star status is how much he catches on with gay males. Could he become a star or superstar with a combined block of his fangirls/ fanwomen and gay fans? It’s conceivable.

Kris, for his part, appears to have fewer dedicated fangirls than Adam, which is to say he appears to have a smaller number of invested fans overall. However, that actually could put him in a better position to draw male fans. It seems to me that Kris in the same position Jordin Sparks was in. Because he has less of a committed fanbase, a higher percentage of his fans will become fans from hearing his solo material rather than having watched him on Idol. So by not having as many Idol fans following him, which automatically would put him in a perceptional box to a lot of people, he may be primed to pick up the male Mayer-and-Mraz-type fans who might be more skittish about him if he had flocks upon of middle-aged women following him rabidly.

I am one of those fraun fanbase chicks who attended the Season 7 concert. I didn’t scream loudly or cheer during the songs. However, I did cheer for my favorites and applauded all others. How could anyone not dance at a concert? I gladly joined my daughter. It was total fun for both of us!

She did make one comment, “Mom why do you have to buy a Jason Castro picture. You have the Grandchildren’s photos!” Then, she laughed and stood in line to buy the photo for me.

So, there is a difference between a scream and a cheer. :razz_wp:

Far be it for me to begrudge people of happiness. Season 7 of AI offered me a bit of entertainment and an escape from “reality” after the untimely death of my mom. My daughter and I watched together on those long winter nights, and the kids and their music gave us something else to think about rather than our loss.

My opinion of the OTT fans still stands, and yes, those over a certain age who are “fanatical” are just odd to me. I’m not one that understands that level of fanaticsim. It is not a sweeping generalization of Adam fans over 50 or any of the Idol fans, merely the fans that are beyond “fanatical”. It is only my opinion. Truly what difference does it make what I think one way or another? If that’s their thing, so be it. My opinion won’t stop them.

Remaining in the “big leagues” is tough without a broader fanbase than the AI fans, that’s a given. It comes down to the whole credibility thing, being taken seriously as an artist and being judged on the music alone and not the whole IDOL thing. It’s a difficult task, but I think the success of Carrie, Kelly and David Cook, as well as, Daughtry have given a bit more leeway to Kris and Adam. True talent can not be denied.

There will always be those who won’t give these kids a break no matter how successful they become or how good their music or talent. I personally just don’t want Adam or Kris or Allison to be the punch line of a joke. OTT fans, whatever you name them, clearly are all about LOVE. But, sometimes LOVE hurts.