Idol Headlines for 07/23/09

Okay, this pic is just so adorable that it would be a crime not to share it. So I hope MJ will allow me this one indulgence. David is either demonstrating his vocal exercise technique or doing his impression of Alvin the Chipmunk: LINK

Now here’s some legitimate news…

If you’re on the fence about purchasing Brooke White’s CD because you’re not sure you’ll like it based on the measly snippets that iTunes and Amazon have to offer, you’ll love this… You can listen to the entire CD, full and uncut, at AOL Music. Just click HERE.
On track #10 “Sometimes Love,” she stops and starts again just like on the show. I thought it was cute, but strange, that they left that in.

They also have Jordin Sparks’s entire album available for your listening pleasure and appraisal HERE.

Looks like Danny is begging for mercy. Too late Danny. You should have thought of the consequences when you made the homophobic video w/ Sarver and when you got Adam’s autograph for your family to ridicule.

Looks like Danny is begging for mercy. Too late Danny. You should have thought of the consequences when you made the homophobic video w/ Sarver and when you got Adam’s autograph for your family to ridicule.

None of these happened. Danny didn’t make the video or get Adam’s autograph so his family can ridicule him. He’s begging mercy from whom? Obsessive, angry Adam fans who keep on hating him on message boards? They have no consequences on his career.

Why is Danny bringing this up now? I thought that the story was settled weeks ago after Adam twitted asking the fans to calm down…

Too late Gokey! I still can’t make myself like him. It has little to do with ADAM and EVERYTHING to do with the Gokster himself. Just not my cuppa! When you add to it his stupid comments and actions, it only makes it worse. I don’t think I will ever get over his homophobic attitude. Smiling for the cameras and acting like everything is o.k. is just a PR push for Mr. Competitive. Not happening!

Danny has issues and those issues are going to overshadow his ‘career’. He needs public relations training on how to convers and interact with people.

Why is Danny bringing this up now? I thought that the story was settled weeks ago after Adam twitted asking the fans to calm down’ ¦

Because he saw how nice a reception Sarver got for sucking up to Adam’s fans and he wants in on the love?

My Gokey dislike has zero to do with my Adam love.
Gokey is just searching for press, and seeing as he has no music news this is the only way he can get it… name dropping Adam.

On the other hand, Matty G. is gaining new fans everyday. He can entertain and does his own thing. No copycat in that set! He seems like he would be alot of fun to hang out with. What a great attitude!!! I hope he gets signed by someone soon. He and Anoop deserve some good things.

Why is Danny bringing this up now?

I think that surprised Jim Cantiello as well. He must have been thinking ‘Danny you make it too easy’. I like Jim face when he said ‘I don’t know’. If Scott is warming up his voice all day, Danny must be looking for right word to say every minute.

I truly don’t know how Danny and Sarver feel about homosexuality, but if Adam wants us to be cool wih Danny, then that is good enough for me. I think because Adam is so charming, these guys just can’t help but like him. Either that or they know Adam is becoming a huge star and they want to be his BFF.

Whatever, Danny.

Matt is TOO adorable!!!

Looking forward to parts two and three of Adam’s interview. I think he is more candid here than in most other interviews. I appreciated hearing that he strategically chose songs (Kara certainly knew this; good on Kara for once). I knew it, and so did a lot of viewers, but I am not sure that he was ever as forthcoming about it. That’s fine, if you can pull it off, and *no one* could pull it off like Adam, plus it was fun to see what he would choose and how he would change up songs every week (read: ToMT, PTFM, IICHY, MW).

Because he saw how nice a reception Sarver got for sucking up to Adam’s fans and he wants in on the love?

Sarver is another one that I try to like but he makes me ill – his begging for Twitter love is sad.

One’s a makeup-wearing, ‘Twilight’ -loving gay man, and the other’s a devoutly religious worship leader from a small town in Wisconsin.

Umm…yeah. Not to stereotype or anything, right MTV? I’m sure that does nothing to contribute to biases and prejudices…

Yeah, I’m an Adam fan with zero love for Gokey, but trust me, that has nothing to do with Adam, and everything to do with Gokey himself. I have no problems with “devoutly religious worship leaders” from say…Arkansas.

There is was one Idol that that loved Adam for who he was…that was Kris from the start. And its genuiene.

Hilarious Chris Daughtry and Dane Cook “jam” session:

http://www.twitvid.com/715BF

Oh, Danny. You’re so clueless. The fact that I’m an Adam fan has nothing to do with me not liking you. You bring it on yourself. I’ll start to think that maybe you’re not too bad, and then you’ll say something incredibly stupid. It happens every time.

I think Matt and Anoop never had issues with Adam from the start too. In a recent interview when Matt was asked who he was closest to, he replied Danny, Anoop and Adam.

I truly don’t know how Danny and Sarver feel about homosexuality, but if Adam wants us to be cool wih Danny, then that is good enough for me. I think because Adam is so charming, these guys just can’t help but like him. Either that or they know Adam is becoming a huge star and they want to be his BFF.

I think Matt and Anoop never had issues with Adam from the start too. In a recent interview when Matt was asked who he was closest to, he replied Danny, Anoop and Adam.

The idols have said for a long time now that they all get along well. Naturally some are going to get along with each other better than others, and make friends, but I tend to believe them when they say they all get along.

They’re not all going to think or believe the same things. But they seem to respect each other and they do seem to get along great (even if their fans don’t, sometimes).

Here is an article about “Daughtry” smashing a record..
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart_watch/39922/week-ending-july-19-2009-daughtry-makes-idol-history/

random news but i thot to share this link with everyone here. (MJ pls delete if its not relevant)

Save the Children Opens ‘Idol Gives Back’ Preschool Playgrounds in Mozambique

http://www.savethechildren.org/newsroom/2009/idol-preschool.html?WT.mc_id=sn_combined_072209_a

Here’s a little anecdote.

Apparently, TPTB at MTV failed to get Jim tickets for the concert in LA, so Danny went out of his way to make sure Jim got tickets, and even checked on him later to make sure he was all set.

Danny sometimes makes it way too easy to hate on him, but I’m not going to. I really think that he and Adam get along fine — they aren’t even going to be best friends, but I don’t think there are any real problems between them. Some of Danny’s “fans” are a lot worse than Danny himself. He’s more clueless than anything else…and he tends to have foot in mouth disease.

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Moving on, I have to admit, sometimes Kris’ tweets confuse the hell out of me. Like this one:

#im going through the big “D” and DO mean Dallas. Yep…I just said that.#about 9 hours ago from web

If the people over on ontd_ai hadn’t explained that that is a reference to a country song, I still wouldn’t know what the hell Kris was talking about there…haha

Here’s a little anecdote.

Apparently, TPTB at MTV failed to get Jim tickets for the concert in LA, so Danny went out of his way to make sure Jim got tickets, and even checked on him later to make sure he was all set.

See he does things like that, that makes me like him , then he speaks and all that ‘like’ is overshadowed. He’s not a bad person he just can’t express himself well.

Hilarious Chris Daughtry and Dane Cook ‘jam’  session:

http://www.twitvid.com/715BF

ROTFL!! Growing Pains FTW! Can we buy that on itunes?? :laugh_tb:

The idols have said for a long time now that they all get along well.

I tend to take the idols’ word for it. Danny and Adam did several bubble tweets together. They seem get along well. Using Danny’s words: you have to accept my belief about your belief of what I believe you believe.

OMG Matt is so funny…I’d love to hang out with him for a day he’s such a hoot and cute too.

The poor guys on the bus have to endure Scott warm up singing on the bus. That would bug the hell out of me. I think it’s Scott that creates the annoyances on the bus.

Matt joining a group of fans waiting for Adam = WIN.

I think he is more candid here than in most other interviews. I appreciated hearing that he strategically chose songs (Kara certainly knew this; good on Kara for once). I knew it, and so did a lot of viewers, but I am not sure that he was ever as forthcoming about it.

I think the final week songs were disatrous for him though, he needed something else than one and crying. Something softer and more melodious than one and something more current than crying.

Here’s a little anecdote.

Apparently, TPTB at MTV failed to get Jim tickets for the concert in LA, so Danny went out of his way to make sure Jim got tickets, and even checked on him later to make sure he was all set.

awwww very sweet of danny….he seems like a nice enough person with a big heart and i dont see any reason why people have to dislike him so much, especially since he hasnt done anything to damage someone else’s reputation or hurt anyone….all this danny-hate is pretty upsetting and making me wonder if people really need something so trivial to put down someone…

and since i love jim, my liking for danny has increased a bit more

Moving on, I have to admit, sometimes Kris’ tweets confuse the hell out of me. Like this one:

#im going through the big ‘D’  and DO mean Dallas. Yep’ ¦I just said that.#about 9 hours ago from web

If the people over on ontd_ai hadn’t explained that that is a reference to a country song, I still wouldn’t know what the hell Kris was talking about there’ ¦haha

ohh so thats what it meant! :ponder_tb:

Well, that was very considerate of Danny to make sure Jim got tickets. I think that just goes to show that the fans know a whole lot less than they “know”.

Re Danny, I honestly think Adam is genuinely cool with both him and Sarver at this point – if there was any animosity or uncomfortable relationship between any of them before, as in during the show, I think Adam’s made it clear a few times that they’re all getting along well on the tour by putting their differences aside and just respecting each other.

That said, I’m just not a Danny fan because of his style, his musical leanings, and his lack of musical experience compared to some of the other top 10. I would never buy one of his cds, but, as far as a person, he’s come across as a quirky, funny dude, with a sense of humor (very important!), has been really well received on tour, and I wish him the best (once he figures out what kind of music he actually wants to do).

Sorry I just don’t buy it. Oh well. It’s my opinion.

Yeah I love Danny. I don’t understand all the hate he gets. He was my favorite until top 9 and I started like Kris more. After Kris and Adam, Danny and Allison are tied for 3rd for me.

Saga, unfortunately, One was chosen for him by Simon and for his second song song he wanted to do Come Home by One Republic, but TPTB wouldn’t allow it, since Chris was doing Apologize by One Republic. So if he had that second song, things may have worked out differently, but who knows. I have read on Rock and Roll sites that the hard core rock and rollers thought he butchered Cryin. But we all know what happened with the backupsingerzillas did him in. But it what is is, and Adam is happy with what he has and for his future. He is one smart cookie.

My not liking Gokey isn’t because of liking Adam, it’s because I don’t like him. They’re separate issues. I know plenty of Kris and Allison fans who also don’t like him as well for a variety of reasons and who don’t care for Adam either. I personally don’t like Gokey, because I think he’s incurious musically, lazy, smug, and was the benefit of a sob story and producer manipulation–without the level of talent to justify it.

And I really don’t enjoy hearing him speak, which granted I don’t dislike him for, I just don’t like him for it. It’s just painful for me to hear him blather on and on without saying anything to the point. Like with this interview by Jim, he misses the point entirely (shocking!) about the fans.

But that being said, I don’t care at all aboout Gokey’s fans and I don’t hate Gokey anymore. He didn’t win and can’t even get a record deal it seems and if he does, I don’t see him succeeding outside of CCA –where I wish him nothing, but the best of luck in.

Though I do reserve the right to make fun of any bad interviews of his (not that there is any other kind) I happen to catch and masochistically subject myself to.

Here is an article about ‘Daughtry’  smashing a record..
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart_watch/39922/week-ending-july-19-2009-daughtry-makes-idol-history/

I just saw that too – congrats to Daughtry – that is awesome!

Though I had to take note that Yahoo has also already predicted that Adam will have a number 1 debut as well. Oh, dear. Ok, I’m a huge Adam fan, but really, with the mile high expectations: Just let the guy make his album, wish him the best, and hopefully all will work out for him as well as it did for Daughtry.

I absolutely LOVED Daughtry his year, and wanted him to succeed so badly. I was so delighted at the success of his first album. I almost think I root more for the future success of people who didn’t win – because I feel like they don’t have the title to take home with them, so any post-idol success is some kind of validation that, hey, they are super talented and popular.

Why is Danny bringing this up now?

I’m not sure that Danny is bringing it up now. It seems to me like Jim interviewed the Idols before the LA concert and is slowly parcelling out the material he got. If he’d posted it all at once, it would have been like trying to drink from fire hydrant. This way, all his little “scoops” get attention and he gets hits for weeks. Win-win.

Oh, and even if Danny was brining this up now, I sense it’s still relevant because I think some people still think he’s just faking being nice to Adam.

Apparently, TPTB at MTV failed to get Jim tickets for the concert in LA, so Danny went out of his way to make sure Jim got tickets, and even checked on him later to make sure he was all set.

Well, good for Danny. Not only did we get Jim’s hilarious tweets, but we also got an excellent recap. And Danny probably made a connection with the press corps and there is nothing wrong with that. Networking is a good thing.

I thought Danny was a bit of a tool earlier in the season, but after I found out he engineered the chant for the save, I realized there is a lot more to him than meets the eye. I still probably won’t want to buy his CD (not my style of music), but I wish him the best of luck.

Gokey reminds me of Sarah Palin!!!

Gokey reminds me of Sarah Palin!!!

ok…i have to (ahem) clarify to everyone here i am not Sarah Palin :tongue1_tb:

I think the final week songs were disatrous for him though, he needed something else than one and crying. Something softer and more melodious than one and something more current than crying.

The rumored “back up” choice from Simon (if “One” hadn’t cleared) was “Wicked Games” – and I would have DIED to hear Adam sing that song – soft, sweet, yet oh so sexy, as only he can do. And that falsetto – ahh – that would have been really great.

There were so many things wrong with Top 3 night – backup singer disaster on “Crying”, “One” being too short for him to do the justice to it he mainly made up for on the studio track. And I personally think Simon made a bad choice for him by choosing One – I love that song, but it is NOT an Adam song (not his style at all).

But then, hindsight is 20/20 – so many other things could have happened to kick Adam out of the competition even earlier, or caused something else to happen – so it’s pointless to dwell on the past, since things have worked out so well for him (and Kris, for that matter) regardless.

Saga, unfortunately, One was chosen for him by Simon and for his second song song he wanted to do Come Home by One Republic, but TPTB wouldn’t allow it, since Chris was doing Apologize by One Republic.

How do we know that’s why TPTB wouldn’t allow it? Do we have a quote from a PTB or is this fan speculation? They had no problem with us hearing multiple Carrie songs during Grand Old Opry Week, two Bryan Adam songs during Top 7A and three Donna Summer songs during Top 7B (almost half the songs). Heck, the very next week, they made us listen to some stupid Kara song sung twice.

And as Jimmy Fallon pointed out to Kris, there are more than two songs to pick from. “Cryin’” was a mistake IMO because it was too similar in theme to the week before and wasn’t different enough from his performance of “One” (i.e. going for the rock wail). But, everybody makes mistakes and it was enough to get him into the finale, so no problemo.

ok’ ¦i have to (ahem) clarify to everyone here i am not Sarah Palin

LOL! That would have been pretty hilarious though if the real Sarah Palin was frequenting mj’s AI blog

“OMG! That Danny is as hot as moose hunting in July!”

On track #10 ‘Sometimes Love,’  she stops and starts again just like on the show. I thought it was cute, but strange, that they left that in.

That is called a dramatic pause if it is intentional, bwah.

Re Danny – maybe Jim Cantiello brought up the subject, he’s clearly been lurking around the boards and blogs given the questions he has been asking, shock a reporter doing his homework!!!

And the thing is even if Danny or Michael were uncomfortable with Adam’s sexuality at the start, that is not necessarily homophobic. There are lots of things about other people that make one uncomfortable. People who use a lot of drugs scare me. People that hunt and own lots of guns make me nervous.

You are uncomfortable with that which you don’t understand but what you find out is when you spend time with different kinds of people you begin to see past that stuff and see the human being underneath whatever else defines them on the surface. Adam clearly understands that by just being himself people who are perhaps uncomfortable will realize hey he’s a great guy, he’s really not that different from me. Most heteros are afraid gay folks are going to hit on them. Most gays have pretty accurate gaydar though not all or not all the time but once heteros realize this, they’re cool.

You can’t force people to think one way or the other – the best way to break down stereotypes is for people of different backgrounds to mix. I love the documentaries when they put Palestinian and Israelis kids together or Catholic and Protestant kids together from Northern Ireland. These kids are taught to hate each other by their parents and communities, that the other side isn’t even human, which is so very very sad.

And straight white people are also not the only people with biases.

Headline on Yahoo- Daughtry surpasses Kelly Clarkson – no doubt something to do with his #1 Billboard Debut this week?

Justin Beiber, the next hot thing out of Canada, after Drake, his new video was just added to MTV and VH1 rotation according to Hits Daily Double.

This is a now 15 year old kid, who was noticed by both Usher and Justin Timberlake singing on Youtube last year, who fought over signing him, Usher won, and now he has a record deal and a single climbing the charts – that kind of thing must have those hard working acts that can’t get a break on MTV rather green and frustrated…..You Tube, could it be bigger than Idol as a platform to launch new artists? Or this kid just got lucky.

“ok’ ¦i have to (ahem) clarify to everyone here i am not Sarah Palin”

Whew! Thank goodness. Palin is the only person I know that is “dumber” in PR than Gokey.

Kirsten, I recall from an interview that it was brought up about the song Come Home and that’s what he really wanted to do. Don’t ask me which one, because there have been so many. It caught my attention and put into my memory bank for all things Adam.

Danny: And I’m saying that in a cocky way–well not a cocky way–what’s the word I am looking for?
Jim: I don’t know.

I think his inarticulate-ness is growing on me. xDD Anyway, I thought that was a nonissue now, why does he bring it up? :

‘OMG! That Danny is as hot as moose hunting in July!’ 

LOL. As somebody who grew up in the frozen north, I feel I must point out that it is illegal to hunt moose in July (not that I’ve ever done it, but I know when the moose start showing up strapped to the hoods of pick-up trucks and it’s not July).

Of course, that would only make moose hunting even more hotter in July (since you must avoid being arrested).

I’m new here. During the season I despised Gokey, because I felt like he was exploiting his wife’s death for reality tv fame and fortune. Also he seemed talentless. The homophobia in his video with Sarver and his niece’s douchey web postings further fueled my strong dislike. Since the season ended though, it has seemed more and more possible that the poor dude may just be waaaay overly home-schooled, and completely lost in our big bad secular world, like someone who’s spent their entire life in bible camp and just got released into the wild.

I agree that Top 3 night was when Adam lost the competition. It was the turning point– Kris had a “moment” with Heartless, while Adam did well enough, but underwhelmed with both Crying and One. I also thought Idol did the contestants a disservice this year by having only 2 songs each on Top3. I think Adam would’ve benefited from a third song the most– he needed to show another side that night.

On topic: Matt G is adorable, always has been. I never understood why Slezak would hate on his personality on Idolatry. I felt so vindicated when he changed his mind and called Matt charming, etc. after meeting him. I hope things work out for Matt and Anoop in particular.

Reminder:

I’m not going to delete any posts, but I’ll start if this thread turns into a rehash of the Season 8 competition. We’ve been there and done that, right? Let’s keep it current, kids.

Kirsten, I recall from an interview that it was brought up about the song Come Home and that’s what he really wanted to do. Don’t ask me which one, because there have been so many. It caught my attention and put into my memory bank for all things Adam.

I know that he mentioned that he wanted to sing it, but I don’t recall ever finding out why he did not. It may not have cleared in time (they don’t have a blanket approval for all OneRepublic songs and they may have started to clear “Apologize” earlier since the judges picked it). He may have himself decided not to sing another OneRepublic song on the show. He may have felt that he needed something that sounded more different from “One”.

Not that it matters why he didn’t sing it. I just don’t think we know why he didn’t. It’s just that some theories morph into fact.

Kirsten, I recall from an interview that it was brought up about the song Come Home and that’s what he really wanted to do.

I know that he mentioned that he wanted to sing it, but I don’t recall ever finding out why he did not.

I vaguely remember that interview with Adam, and I think Kirsten’s right- there was nothing to indicate that it was TPTB who told him not to do the song. I think Adam himself said he decided not to do another One Republic song because Kris was doing Apologize. Which makes sense.

Wait, there were stories of Danny and Adam punching??

and if you watched the video: oh awkward danny, please don’t leave. what else would entertain me?

Whatever other Idols’ fans think of Danny, he’s certainly getting a lot of love from the crowds on this tour — he’s probably 3rd behind Adam and Kris in terms of the amount of positive screams/applause he’s gotten, if all the reviews and tweets coming out of the concerts have been correct. So he’s doing ok for himself. I find it funny that he keeps talking about how these labels are interested in signing him, yet nothing’s been announced. Maybe he hasn’t been released from his 19 deal yet, so he can’t formally sign anything. IDK.

Meanwhile, I saw that Kris’ version of “Heartless” evidently jumped from #95 to #52 on the Itunes downloads chart after it was used on SYTYCD last night? Is that right? I went on my personal Itunes, but the “top songs” chart doesn’t list Heartless (in anyone’s version) anywhere in the Top 100. But maybe the “top downloads” is a separate chart? Can anyone provide a link for me that shows this supposed jump for Kris’ version of the song? Thanks much…

Kirsten, I recall from an interview that it was brought up about the song Come Home and that’s what he really wanted to do.

i saw this tweet from 1Republic at the same time and thot to myself..oh is that why? oh well, it would’ve been nice if Adam had sung Come Home cos Come Home is my favourite 1Republic song

Oh, and adam lambert told me backstage he had requested to actually perform “come home” the night before but the other dude sang Apologize12:28 AM May 17th from TwitterBerry

I am an Adam fan. I don’t like Danny personally but I think he is most oftentimes misunderstood because of the way he projects himself and the way he talks. He also has difficulty in getting his message across. At any rate, the guy just want to have a career and if he and Adam says they’re cool and they don’t have issues then so be it. Adam wants to spread love not hate. He wants positive energy.

LOL. As somebody who grew up in the frozen north, I feel I must point out that it is illegal to hunt moose in July (not that I’ve ever done it, but I know when the moose start showing up strapped to the hoods of pick-up trucks and it’s not July).

Thank you for clarifying I bet it’s abundantly clear that I’m from an east coast city that couldn’t be further from knowing anything about actual moose hunting

Here’s an awesome quote from Nigel Lythgoe from the LA Time article posted above:

One more burning question for Lythgoe: Will he ever tap dance again on the show, as he did last season, surrounded by a gaggle of cute kids?

“I don’t think so,’  he said. Lythgoe, who was an executive producer of ‘American Idol’  for its first seven seasons, continued: ‘I firmly believe that we should be in the background: The focus should be on the kids in the competition. Last year on ‘American Idol,’ the judges went into the spotlight a little bit. Thank goodness Adam Lambert and some of the other kids were talented enough to wrest the spotlight back onto them at the end of the season.”

Meanwhile, I saw that Kris’ version of ‘Heartless’  evidently jumped from #95 to #52 on the Itunes downloads chart after it was used on SYTYCD last night? Is that right? I went on my personal Itunes, but the ‘top songs’  chart doesn’t list Heartless (in anyone’s version) anywhere in the Top 100. But maybe the ‘top downloads’  is a separate chart? Can anyone provide a link for me that shows this supposed jump for Kris’ version of the song? Thanks much’ ¦

You have to set iTunes to show you the top Pop songs (you can change the genre in the first white box on the upper left from the main iTunes page). Kris’ studio version is currently #50 on that list.

To: bcr107

Thanks. That’s a pretty big jump, from #95 to #50!

‘I don’t think so,’  he said. Lythgoe, who was an executive producer of ‘American Idol’  for its first seven seasons, continued: ‘I firmly believe that we should be in the background: The focus should be on the kids in the competition. Last year on ‘American Idol,’ the judges went into the spotlight a little bit. Thank goodness Adam Lambert and some of the other kids were talented enough to wrest the spotlight back onto them at the end of the season.’ 

So true! Nigel was clearly making some pointed attacks at Idol this year on SYTYCD – seeming to get away from any idea of pimping contestants, or having the judges show too much favoritism. This year may be one of the most even playing fields in SYTYCD – any one of them could win.

My biggest prob with AI all season was the judges making it too much about them (Paula and Simon acting like 10 yr olds) – and making a complete mockery of what awesomeness the singers were actually doing on stage. Not to mention cutting into performance time (esp. in the last weeks) for the sake of more inane judge banter.

Is it normal that Jordin album is not selling more? I thought with the promo and her hit single she would do better than that.
Is it a bad sign for Kris, Adam and Allison?

edited out the offtopic stuff

Since I am moving on to current events, I must comment on the Danny/MTV article. Danny should let it go. You can’t please everyone, and he has to just accept the fact that not everyone is going to like him. I personally think he was crucified on the blogosphere for absolutely no reason at all, and don’t get me started on idolatry………. but its obvious from the concert venues he has a lot of fans. So he should concentrate on them and try to appeal to others who are open to accepting him and his music. There are approx. 6 billion people in the world …. there is a market for Danny Gokey. lol

On another note, that was a very nice gesture of him to get tickets for Jim for the LA concert. People will eventually judge you on your actions, and not by everything they hear…. at least they should….

I think that Danny might have brought up that he wants Adam and Danny fans to get along because of what happened with the whole charity poll thing. Up until that happened, Danny fans and Adam fans really weren’t fighting with each other.

Danny fans don’t really post on regular idol sites, I think that one big reason is because of all of the Danny hate, I think that a lot of them don’t feel comfortable doing so because of that.

I don’t remember on what date this interview with Jim took place, but I think that it could have happened after the charity poll thing was put up and things got really ugly.

One of Danny’s NFL player friends, Nick Barnett, had decided that he would donate money to a charity of the people’s choice on Twitter if he got 10,000 followers.

A little while after he decided to do this, he asked Danny to help him get to 10,000 followers. Danny asked his fans on Twitter to do that and got a whole lot of his fans to follow Nick, and reach his goal.

Well, when it was time for Nick to put up the charity poll and ask people to vote for the charity of their choice, SHF was one of the nominations.

A lot of people who are Danny fans, make up the bulk of Nick’s followers, were voting for SHF. Then a lot of Danny haters came out of the woodworks, and started attacking Danny,his fans and Nick on the poll site.

They were accusing Danny fans of doing awful stuff and calling Nick insulting names. Things did end up getting really ugly and Danny haters and Danny fans were arguing with each other.

Nick was pretty upset with the Danny haters behavior and tweeted about it, and also ended up taking the poll down.

I think that what happened with the charity poll is what Danny might have meant when he said he wanted his and Adam’s fanbases to stop fighthing with each other.

And I think that’s why he might have brought it up. But it’s not just a lot of the Adam fans, that hate him, it’s a lot of people from other fanbases as well.

But prior to the charity poll thing Danny fans weren’t really fighting with any other fanbase. They don’t really post on the Internet that much except for on Fan sites/forums and Twitter.

Valentin432 Jul 23rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm

Is it normal that Jordin album is not selling more? I thought with the promo and her hit single she would do better than that.
Is it a bad sign for Kris, Adam and Allison?

No, it’s a bad sign for JORDIN. Most Idols that actually get to release a 2nd album usually end up selling about half as much as before. Even golden girl Carrie (but in her case her 1st album sold 6 million so “half as much” is still pretty great).

ETA: I still think that what kept Jordin’s first album afloat for so long was “No Air” and Chris Brown.

Because he saw how nice a reception Sarver got for sucking up to Adam’s fans and he wants in on the love?

I don’t think Sarver’s sucking up to Adam’s fans. I believe Sarver is a nice person. He just never got a chance to know Adam before. On this tour he gets chances to really know Adam and he admires Adam’s personality and humility and he learns a lot from this tour about the top 10 (On Chaparral interview). He gets to really care for Adam after knowing Adam is a really really great person and Adam is not a negative person.

Is it normal that Jordin album is not selling more?

Her album has only been out for 2 days! Also, I saw that both her regular and deluxe version are in the top selling albums on itunes so it seems like she’s going to do well.

suebrody
Jul 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 am
Whatever, Danny.

Matt is TOO adorable!!!

Looking forward to parts two and three of Adam’s interview. I think he is more candid here than in most other interviews. I appreciated hearing that he strategically chose songs (Kara certainly knew this; good on Kara for once).

Where can I find the first part interview?

ETA: I still think that what kept Jordin’s first album afloat for so long was ‘No Air’  and Chris Brown.

I agree. I still maintain that S6 may have been the weakest, in terms of not really seeing any of the Top 10 as being commercially viable. Melinda had the best voice of possibly any woman on the show, but not the personality or current style to likely make it big. Blake had a weak voice and just did the beatboxing thing (imo). And I was never impressed with Jordin. She had a sweet personality, but seemed ill-suited for the ultra-competitive teen-girl-R&B songstress role that she was most likely going to be positioned for.

I think Adam, Kris and Allison represent (potentially) much more current styles and have the goods to back it up for bigger success.

Did Adam sang any song that’s not over 20 years old? He needs to show his current side by that time.

Have to respectfully disagree here. First, many of the genres don’t really allow for more recent songs (disco, motown, rat pack). Yet within each of them, Adam offered a new spin on an old song (Muse’s recent cover of Feeling Good, IICHY was a reworking of a disco era song, etc.) Even songs like PTFM and BTBW contained that electro edge that Adam has shown he’d like to incorporate more in his new songs.

glamrockfairy, love that name.

Bottomline is some people have more growing to do than others and in life we should all be continually learning, growing, evolving and trying to understand our fellow man, the human condition which includes being more patient with those that need “help”, bwah. Being educated and articulate is great but not everyone has the advantages to get the same education and being articulate is a gift to some extent, for example Messrs Lambert and Cook are naturals. The important thing is to keep trying to better yourself.

All the Idol peeps are continually changing and hopefully evolving in positive directions, though many artists in general in Hollywood and show biz do end up going in very negative directions – but in the words of MLK, keep hope alive.

I think Danny’s problem is he tries to be politically correct and tries to get fans to love him. He can’t get his point across concisely, and in the process says weird things, goes round and round, and ends up not making his point or it comes out wrong. My advice to Danny is don’t study Adam’s performances, study his speaking skills.

The other thing Danny (and others) can learn from Adam is that Adam tries to include others in his responses. It is not always about himself (except when he is talking about his album or his tour set). As an example, when interviewers tell Adam he gets crazy response from the audience, he replies that all of them do.

Did Adam sang any song that’s not over 20 years old?

“One” by U2 was released in 1991, “Black or White” was released in 1990, and “Cryin” is from 1993 so they get in just under the wire.

“No Boundaries” was written this year.

SF1: “Satisfaction” – 1965
F13: “Black or White” – 1990
F11: “Ring of Fire” – 1963
F10: “TheTracks of My Tears” – 1965
F9: “Play that Funky Music White Boy” – 1975
F8: “Mad World” – 1982
F7A: “Born to Be Wild” – 1967
F7B: “If I Can’t Have You” – 1977
F5: “Feelin’ Good” – 1965
F4: “Whole Lotta Love” – 1969
F4: “Slow Ride” – 1975
F3: “One” – 1991
F3: “Cryin’” – 1993
F2: “Mad World” – 1982
F2: “A Change is Gonna Come” – 1965
F2: “No Boundaries” – 2009

mj
Jul 23rd, 2009 at 11:19 am
Here’s a little anecdote.

Apparently, TPTB at MTV failed to get Jim tickets for the concert in LA, so Danny went out of his way to make sure Jim got tickets, and even checked on him later to make sure he was all set.

What’s TPTB … sorry don’t really follow this kind of thing.. :biggrin_wp:

Meanwhile, I saw that Kris’ version of ‘Heartless’  evidently jumped from #95 to #52 on the Itunes downloads chart after it was used on SYTYCD last night? Is that right? I went on my personal Itunes, but the ‘top songs’  chart doesn’t list Heartless (in anyone’s version) anywhere in the Top 100. But maybe the ‘top downloads’  is a separate chart? Can anyone provide a link for me that shows this supposed jump for Kris’ version of the song? Thanks much’ ¦

It is listed under top 100 pop here is one link I found:
http://www.ontheradio.net/songs/top/pop.aspx

If Danny wants the negative posts to stop all he has to say publicly is that he is sick of the fan wars, that all the idols should be respected, and that they are all friends. He did not have to go publicly and bring Adam’s name in it at all, it was almost as if he wanted to fuel the fire.

Ha Ha, MJ, funny comment by Nigel and YET the 3 judges on SYTYCD certainly rattle on more than the 4 AI judges do. They get 2 hours as well of course. Maybe that’s the answer AI needs to be 2 hours on each performance night.

If anyone took a stopwatch, I think I would be proven right.

I think for most people (or many people, including me), it is difficult to seperate a singer’s public and/or private persona and their music. How I feel about the person does effect how I feel about their music to a very large degree. This may not be fair, but if I don’t like someone, I won’t buy their music.
Danny needs to work on improving his image.

Danny you’re such a doofus. Two interviews and you stuck your foot in your mouth in both of them. *eye roll here*

Seriously, I think Danny’s foot-in-mouth problem stems from his obsession with getting a message across to people and getting his foundation off its feet. All he thinks about is how to present himself to make people like him so he can tell people his message instead of just living a life that exemplifies the message. It makes him unintentionally very self-centered and, as a result of not thinking about others, he does many things to offend and slight both other idols and fans.

Ah! MATT!! You’re such an adorable dork. Wish someone had gotten some good photos of you pretending to be a fan.

‘I don’t think so,’  he said. Lythgoe, who was an executive producer of ‘American Idol’  for its first seven seasons, continued: ‘I firmly believe that we should be in the background: The focus should be on the kids in the competition. Last year on ‘American Idol,’ the judges went into the spotlight a little bit. Thank goodness Adam Lambert and some of the other kids were talented enough to wrest the spotlight back onto them at the end of the season.’ 

Yeah, I saw that on another forum and gave him an amen for it! I guess even a stopped clock can be right twice a day. I have a fair amount of problems with Nigel, his negativity to homosexuals and what he perceives as “too feminine,” with men has for me, (for you) negatively impacted both AI and SYTYCD in the past. And of course what he did this year with the SYTYCD auditions certainly didn’t help him there. And talk about producer manipulation? AI and SYTYCD both are so blatant about it, and have made it so I stopped watching it for years before this one, as I did with AI or resolve to stop watching it going forward, as I did with SYTYCD.

However I think he is completely correct in his assesment about AI and this year being too much about judges to the detriment of the kids, and therefore the show. We don’t tune in to see the judges sauntering down a staircase; Simon drawing a moustache on Paula, or bickering amongst themselves. We tune in to see the contestants sing and because of the judges lame shenanigans we got less songs from the contestants for weeks at a time. And they kept going over despite less from the contestants, so that at one point an entire song was cut off for DVR/VCR timed recordings.

And of course, the show should ditch Kara and keep Paula. They threw a ton of cash at Ryan, Simon will probably be getting that 144 mil. so the show should stick to the format that works, the three original ones, but stop making it all about them.

Jordin’s first album was slow to burn but she got there in the end and no doubt the Chris Brown duet was the turning point. But yes with Michael Jackson still dominating the charts – some of the money that would have been going to new albums is going to MJ’s records for sure and the general malaise of the music business right now in general, also mid summer is not the BEST time to release a record, the last quarter of the year is, not that it will hurt Daughtry at all but he’s coming off 4 x platinium so he’s not worried, but depending on how his singles fare, I’ll bet he doesn’t do 4xplatinium again, I’m thinking 2X.

Since I am moving on to current events, I must comment on the Danny/MTV article. Danny should let it go. You can’t please everyone, and he has to just accept the fact that not everyone is going to like him. I personally think he was crucified on the blogosphere for absolutely no reason at all, and don’t get me started on idolatry’ ¦’ ¦’ ¦. but its obvious from the concert venues he has a lot of fans. So he should concentrate on them and try to appeal to others who are open to accepting him and his music. There are approx. 6 billion people in the world ‘ ¦. there is a market for Danny Gokey. lol

On another note, that was a very nice gesture of him to get tickets for Jim for the LA concert. People will eventually judge you on your actions, and not by everything they hear’ ¦. at least they should’ ¦.

I think that it is probably hard on Danny as it could be for anyone who gets a lot of excessive and extreme bashing and criticism. But I also think that he would be better off if he tried to ignore as much of it as he can.

Even though it is pretty rough when people are doing things like going on charity polls and attacking you, your fans and your friend. I don’t think that he’s worried about pleasing everyone, I just think he’s probably tired of all of the hate.

I do think that if he just tried to ignore it as best as he can, which I think that he tries to do and put things in perspective, he’d be much better off.

I think that truth be told, Danny isn’t hated by most people in general. I think that most people either fit into one of four categories regarding Danny. They either A). like/love him B.) Aren’t fans but don’t wish any ill will upon him) C.) Don’t care about him one way or the other but don’t hate him, or D. ) Don’t know who he is.

There is the group of people that hate him are constantly bashing/attacking/criticizing all or most of the things that he says/does.

But the vast majority of them seem to be on the Internet, and all of the people in the other groups far outnumber them. Heck his fanbase alone outnumbers them.

Plus he was never mocked/portrayed in a negative light on the show by Idol, like someone like Sanjaya was and most of the media didn’t mock him either.

I think that Danny has flaws like anyone else, but I think that he seems like a pretty decent guy. I think that he’s got a good voice, a whole lot of fans, who are coming out to tour and supporting him.

I think that he probably will get a record deal, he could do decently in the music business. By all accounts I’ve read from fans, reporters and even some former haters of his who have met him, people say he’s a really nice, personable guy.

I think that if he were really all of the negative things that he is often accused of, we would have heard stories of this from people who have actually met him, including reporters, but I’ve heard quite the contrary.

I think that he should try and ignore as much of the hate aimed towards him as possible and keep pushing forward. I think that he’ll be fine.

I still think that what kept Jordin’s first album afloat for so long was ‘No Air’  and Chris Brown.

For sure. Jordin knows that too because Chris Brown was going to be on her 2nd album until the whole Rhianna mess happened….. He was her life saver on that first album. I will say that until the end of time…. lol

As far as Adam singing more older songs during the competition, so did Allison and she can’t even vote yet……. I believe she became as the “old soul” because of her ability to convincingly sing older/mature songs. According to my memory, Matt sang the most “current” songs, and he got slammered for most of them (exception: So Small) and praised for his renditions on older songs that he modernized.

I have no problem with Danny’s fans, and I respect these fans and their opinion of Danny. But I don’t like many of the things Danny says and does, and whenever I state to get past this stuff, he just says something that “slaps me in the face.”

Now he’s done it again. What inspired him to says the Adam and Danny fans should get along? I haven’t seen any new big issues lately. I just looked at several of the Danny fan sites and there isn’t a lot of negative stuff about Adam. Similarly, the fans on the Adam sites really don’t seem to be very interested in discussing Danny. That was, of course, before this interview.

So, to me, it just looks like Danny’s attempt to get some press.

I haven’t seen this posted yet, so I apologize if it has:

Chart Watch Extra: The Top 20 New Acts Of The 2000s

To mark the occasion, here’s a list of the top new acts of the decade. Of the thousands of acts that have made their first appearances on The Billboard 200 since Jan. 1, 2000, these are the 20 that have sold the most albums. The list includes six pop stars, five rock groups, four rappers, three country acts and two R&B divas. It features four acts that won Grammys as Best New Artist, two who won American Idol and one (Carrie Underwood) who managed to win both.

[snip]
16. Kelly Clarkson, 10,276,000. Clarkson, 27, was the Season 1 champ on American Idol. The pop star first charted with Thankful in 2003. Her 2004 sophomore album, Breakaway, is her best-seller, with sales of 6,086,000 copies. Breakaway, which won a Grammy as Best Pop Vocal Album, spawned four top 10 hits, including the #2 smash “Since U Been Gone.” Top 200 rank: #178.

[snip]
20. Carrie Underwood, 9,748,000. The country star, 26, was the Season 4 champ on American Idol and later won a Grammy as Best New Artist of 2006. Her 2005 debut, Some Hearts, is her best-seller, with sales of 6,815,000 copies. The album included her chart-topping Idol coronation song “Inside Your Heaven” and the top 10 hit “Before He Cheats.” Top 200 rank: #192.

The Top 200 rank is the the Neilsen/Soundsan running list of the Top 200 best-selling artists in history (which started on March 1, 1991 for Soundscan)

Well actually it is the imposition of reality TV along with the internet that makes it harder to separate the artist personally and an artist’s music.

In the days before internet and reality TV, you would never know what your favourite artists were truly like, just the media construct that was fed to you. To some extent even with internet and reality TV we don’t necessarily ever see or know the real person.

But I don’t think most John Mayer fans care that he is a douchebag by all accounts. It’s probably healthier if you can separate the artist from the person and I think we do do that for most artists but we all have the one or two artists that are our faves and we expect a lot from them, perhaps too much. But I think we expect celebrities to be douchebags or divas and when they aren’t, or we perceive that they aren’t, we get so excited – see you can be famous and a great person too.

edited out off-topic stuff

I have read or listened to a bunch of Danny interviews, and he is just not particularly articulate, IMO. I don’t think he’s a bad guy, and it’s clear that he and Adam DO get along (I never see Scott with Adam–Sarver, OTOH, is, occasionally–so I think Scott is the one who doesn’t get along with several Idols). I think both Sarver and Gokey are trying to be open-minded about Adam, so good on them.

I still think that Danny needs a handler, I really do. He needs to know what to say in interviews, and he needs help in discussing future contract negotiations. I think he wasn’t exposed to the outside world much as a child or adult, and that is hurting him. HOWEVER, I love that ticket story with Jim Cantiello, and I have to say that the interview where he talked in depth about Sophia nearly made me cry. He was so in love with her, and the loss had to be excruciating. I am not interested in hearing Preacher!Danny during the Tour, as I just want to hear the Idols sing. But I don’t dislike Danny, I just don’t think he *gets* it yet.

TPTB = The Powers That Be (e.g. a show’s producers, execs, the people pulling the strings behind the scenes).

I think Danny’s problem is he tries to be politically correct and tries to get fans to love him. He can’t get his point across concisely, and in the process says weird things, goes round and round, and ends up not making his point or it comes out wrong. My advice to Danny is don’t study Adam’s performances, study his speaking skills.

Completely agree. Problem #1 for Danny is trying to get everyone to like him. As someone else pointed out, it ain’t gonna happen. And when you try to do it, you just piss more people off.

Why didn’t Jordan hook up with NeYo or Akon – I think you call up Akon and he’s there, no questions asked, bwah. Shoot Chris Brown ain’t the only game in town.

I mean I just read about “Wale with Lady GaGa” Who or what is Wale, who cares they got Lady GaGa on their song and video, getting them added to the MTV rotation. You gotta do what you gotta do.

wow cd sales are really down this year.

Ah! Nigel hit the nail on the head with Idol judges taking too much of the spot light. It wasn’t even that they spoke too long (though they did). Their antics were too much, too often and disrespected the contestants (crayon mustache anyone). And he’s totally right. Thank goodness for Adam this season, who can always command attention when he gets on stage. And kudos to Kris who had a couple performances so outstanding that he also pushed the judges antics into the background.

Hopefully, this is something that they’ll fix for next season. Although I have my doubts. If it’s too bad, it’s more than likely I’ll choose to catch up on shows via performance vids and the internet as I did most of this season.

It’s hard to believe viewship won’t drop drastically next year. I’m pretty sure if it weren’t for the Adam factor (where people tuned in to see what he would do next), viewership would have been much lower this year. Le sigh. Oh, if only I were a producer.

‘I don’t think so,’  he said. Lythgoe, who was an executive producer of ‘American Idol’  for its first seven seasons, continued: ‘I firmly believe that we should be in the background: The focus should be on the kids in the competition. Last year on ‘American Idol,’ the judges went into the spotlight a little bit. Thank goodness Adam Lambert and some of the other kids were talented enough to wrest the spotlight back onto them at the end of the season.’ 

I agree – the reason I tuned out of AI was because it was too much about Ryan and Simon or Paula and Simon. Adam brought it back to life for me and back to the actual singers.

In terms of sound mixing, it seems to be a problem with all TV shows that involve music.

I know from reports of people who have been at live tapings of both Idol and Rockstar and that show with the celebrity kids and America’s Next Great Band, [even people who've been to Letterman and Conan et al to see artists perform live,] then watched the TV show later, this is a chronic problem – for some performers, they sounded better in the live performance than the later recorded version and some performers sound better on TV than live and often all in the same night. As well sometimes the TV sound mix seemed improved by the time the show aired on the West Coast. Then keep in mind we all own televisions with sound systems that were not created equal either, not by a long shot.

Not sure if there is ever a way to fix this problem. And then add to that back up singers who are just too loud or their mikes are not turned down low enough.

I think it is too early to count out Jordin. Jordin had low debut sales last year and her album went platinum. I think it all depends upon what songs they release and how well they end up doing. First week sales don’t always indicate how well the album ends up selling.

I think Nigel and Mary dominate SYTYCD more than the Idol judges on any given night, even with the four judges this season.

Now luckily I like Nigel and Mary and they at least give thoughtful analysis most of the time but I still think that’s a bit rich for Nigel to make the jab. Of course I am sure he would have never approved of the fourth AI judge unless it was a rotating judge which is what Idol used to do with guest judges. The rotating third judge in SYTYCD is one of the better ideas.

The problem I found with the guest judges on AI is that most of the time they couldn’t or wouldn’t be critical when it was clearly called for. Mentors are more blunt.

im guessing danny is receiving nasty tweets, hence his annoyance w. rabid fans…..cant blame him. as much as i whince at his awkward comments , im more bothered by crazy fans who go out of their way to be mean towards him. ex: the dannyisdouche trend on twitter not so long ago. yikes. i think the guy needs some PR help and a new stylist (ex: recent tour outfit consisting of a red shirt w. black vest and a pocket chain…WTF?) but he’s not a spawn of the devil.

Reminder:

Sigh. I’ll be deleting ANY FURTHER REHASH OF SEASONS PAST. I really get grumpy when posters IGNORE my mods.

ETA: I went back and edited a bunch of posts.

The Rehash of Season 8 is OFF-TOPIC. Like I said, I’ll be deleting all further posts on the subject

Why is Danny bringing this up now?

I think that surprised Jim Cantiello as well. He must have been thinking ‘Danny you make it too easy’.

Huh??? Danny didn’t bring the whole Adam thing up, Jim Cantiello did — just watch the video! How could it “surprise” Cantiello when he brought it up himself???

Why is Danny bringing this up now? I thought that the story was settled weeks ago after Adam twitted asking the fans to calm down’ ¦

I know. I thought it was over and done with and now he brings it up again. It’s only reminding me of all the reasons I didn’t like him in the first place.

Sarver’s suck up routine is working much better than this.

Danny needs a PR person the way a fish needs water. Surely there is a PR firm somewhere that loves a challenge.

Huh??? Danny didn’t bring the whole Adam thing up, Jim Cantiello did ‘” just watch the video! How could it ‘surprise’  Cantiello when he brought it up himself???

I think Jim was surprised in a way that he was expecting some diplomatic and short answer but getting a candid and elaborated one.

Danny should really pull his head out of his ass. Once again he gives us a taste of his inflated ego to think anyone’s fans are “warring” with his fans. Um, he didn’t best Kris or Adam in the competition, there is no animosity because of AI. The animosity is directly related to the verbal vomit that ensues every time Danny opens his mouth.

While there are some fan wars between Kris’ and Adam’s fans, the majority of AI fans like both of the top two. Simply because they are both great guys.

If Danny was considered by the majority of AI viewers to be a great guy, he wouldn’t be getting all of the negative attention that he receives. It has nothing to do with other contestants’ fans and everything to do with Danny.

Danny should sing more, and talk less. Every time he opens his mouth in an interview, I like him less. Even though I believe he does not intend to be such a douche, it seems he can’t stop himself.

and Nigel’s quote was pretty awesome…..hopefully w. the new contracts there are some stipulations …such as ” no more wasting time fake fighting” and “limit the banter unless it has to do w. the contestant specifically”.

oh well, a girl can dream, no?

Why didn’t Jordan hook up with NeYo or Akon – I think you call up Akon and he’s there, no questions asked, bwah. Shoot Chris Brown ain’t the only game in town.

I think she has a song on there by T-Pain? Ryan Tedder ain’t no slouch either. I bet they throw a rapper on S.O.S. too.

Huh??? Danny didn’t bring the whole Adam thing up, Jim Cantiello did ‘” just watch the video! How could it ‘surprise’  Cantiello when he brought it up himself???

I think what Cantiello brought up was misinterpreted by Danny. I believe Cantiello meant do the intense fans take it too far showing their love for their idols. E.g., when they broke the barrier at one of the shows trying to get to Adam.

I think what Cantiello brought up was misinterpreted by Danny. I believe Cantiello meant do the intense fans take it too far showing their love for their idols.

Hmmm. On second viewing, it does appear the question about “intense” fans was not necessarily referring to what Danny thought it was, so I’ll concede that point. But I do think the accusation that Danny was “bringing up” Adam for his own opportunistic purposes is grossly unfair.

http://www.q1075.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1013:american-idol-winner-kris-allen-&catid=39:show-mornings&Itemid=109

Here’s a link to a radio interview Kris did with Q 107.5 in Memphis. Pretty funny, I like when Kris snarks that he’s “not going to be honest with you” and non-answers when asked about No Boundaries, heh. Also, I guess Alexis Grace is a sometimes-cohost of this radio show or something, because she’s involved in this interview.

LisaE
Jul 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
One’s a makeup-wearing, ‘Twilight’ -loving gay man, and the other’s a devoutly religious worship leader from a small town in Wisconsin.

Umm’ ¦yeah. Not to stereotype or anything, right MTV? I’m sure that does nothing to contribute to biases and prejudices’ ¦

Oh yes, Cantiello loooves his stereotypes. His write-ups always go for the easy image, the cheep laugh – just one of the many reasons I hate reading him.

Huh??? Danny didn’t bring the whole Adam thing up, Jim Cantiello did ‘” just watch the video! How could it ‘surprise’  Cantiello when he brought it up himself???

I think what Cantiello brought up was misinterpreted by Danny. I believe Cantiello meant do the intense fans take it too far showing their love for their idols. E.g., when they broke the barrier at one of the shows trying to get to Adam.

Exactly. The question was about how Adam and Danny’s fans were amongst the most passionate, i.e. devoted/crazy about them –the contestants. The question wasn’t about the fans fighting each other. It was just kind of a comment that Danny seemed to be inspiring a lot of devotion, and Adam was another contestant who had a high level of devotion in his fans. And so Jim was just asking how he dealt with his intense fans. Just like the other contestants have been asked about it and given how they feel, or sometimes their craziest stories/gifts. Like poor Kris having someone tongue him after taking a picture with him.

“On topic: Matt G is adorable, always has been. I never understood why Slezak would hate on his personality on Idolatry. I felt so vindicated when he changed his mind and called Matt charming, etc. after meeting him. I hope things work out for Matt and Anoop in particular.”

IA. I never understood how so many people could misunderstand his personality. I always thought it was pretty obvious how kind, charming, and funny he was (maybe becuase I was such a huge fan?) Anyway, I’m glad that he feels more comfortable to share himself in interviews after the show, and more people are beginning to catch on to how great he is- On and Off the stage :clap_tb:

LisaE
Jul 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
One’s a makeup-wearing, ‘Twilight’ -loving gay man, and the other’s a devoutly religious worship leader from a small town in Wisconsin.

Umm’ ¦yeah. Not to stereotype or anything, right MTV? I’m sure that does nothing to contribute to biases and prejudices’ ¦

What about when one writer said if you brought Kris home to the parents, they would welcome him warmly, but if you brought Adam home, they would be eyeing him suspiciously (put the good crystal away). That was a writer from the south, BTW.

Also, I guess Alexis Grace is a sometimes-cohost of this radio show or something, because she’s involved in this interview.

No, I think the female DJ just happens to also be named Alexis? It’s hard to say. But thanks for posting it! Poor Kris, what is he supposed to say about NoBo? Obviously he hates it, but he has enough respect for Kara not to go there. Let sleeping dogs lie.

ETA: Mayhaps that IS Alexis Grace doing the interview? I dunno, I’m confused. It’s a bitter irony if it is her asking all those questions about the tour, since she SHOULD have been on it!

One’s a makeup-wearing, ‘Twilight’ -loving gay man, and the other’s a devoutly religious worship leader from a small town in Wisconsin.

I don’t get how that’s even a stereotype. Isn’t that basically who they are? Okay, so the Twilight-loving part is questionable since he’s only mentioned liking the books, but still..

Anyways, I love Jim Cantiello and his reactions to everything is priceless.

Danny: And I’m saying that in a cocky way’“well not a cocky way’“what’s the word I am looking for?
Jim: I don’t know.

Me either, Jim! All I know is I’m not talking about Danny anymore – see yesterday’s thread about the insurance gig – I think we covered Danny! It is too bad that this interview came out a week after it was done … but as I watch it I’m whispering “not cocky, wrong word, Danny, you should never use that word”…

One’s a makeup-wearing, ‘Twilight’ -loving gay man, and the other’s a devoutly religious worship leader from a small town in Wisconsin.

Umm’ ¦yeah. Not to stereotype or anything, right MTV? I’m sure that does nothing to contribute to biases and prejudices’ ¦

AGREE … give it a rest! (And there are gay worship leaders who are devoutly religious … and small town Wisconsin readers who love “Twilight”…) I see your point, AC, that these are accurate descriptors (well, I don’t know about ‘Twilight-loving’ and ‘deeply religious’ is subjective and ‘small town’ – isn’t he from Milwaukee?) of each but there’s so much more …

Adam is probably better off not having won AI, because if he HAD won, he would have done all the stupid Disney crap

He would have been great at DisneyLand … and I wonder what Disney’s thinking now that they see the amazing uproar he’s causing on tour?

Also, I guess Alexis Grace is a sometimes-cohost of this radio show or something, because she’s involved in this interview.

yeah i heard two female voices n one of them was Alexis’s and Kris telling Alexis in the end that he’ll see her in Memphis and if i remember correctly, Alexis is from Memphis.

also how sweet can he get, saying Megan got a good reception in her hometown.

But he would have been great at DisneyLand ‘ ¦ and I wonder what Disney’s thinking now that they see the amazing uproar he’s causing on tour.

I suspect Disney is feeling incredibly thankful that he didn’t win because he would mess with their image ever so much….I mean, come on, someone representing Disney jacking off a mic stand and calling the audience bitches? He might make money from one segment of their viewership but he’d alienate (hehe appropriate for a glittery alien) others who would be very vocal. He’d be a public relations blessing and nightmare all rolled into one.

But he would have been great at DisneyLand ‘ ¦ and I wonder what Disney’s thinking now that they see the amazing uproar he’s causing on tour.

I would love a picture of a full make-up Adam with Minnie Mouse.

What about when one writer said if you brought Kris home to the parents, they would welcome him warmly, but if you brought Adam home, they would be eyeing him suspiciously (put the good crystal away). That was a writer from the south, BTW.

I have a terrible feeling it could be a little worse than just eyeing him suspiciously. This southern sojourn should be interesting. I’m just hoping he gets out relatively unscathed.

I suspect Disney is feeling incredibly thankful that he didn’t win because he would mess with their image ever so much. I mean, come on, someone representing Disney jacking off a mic stand and calling the audience bitches?

Bwahaha. I suspect the same. It does seem like they dodged a bullet there. A glittery bullet.

What about when one writer said if you brought Kris home to the parents, they would welcome him warmly, but if you brought Adam home, they would be eyeing him suspiciously (put the good crystal away). That was a writer from the south, BTW.

That’s ridiculous. Bringing Kris/Adam home to the parents as what, boyfriend? If I were a parent, I would be more suspicious if my daughter/son bring home a married guy as bf than I would if it’s a single guy.

Just to be fair, Kris didn’t get a lot of help from the producers until the end of the season — when it mattered. Look at the difference between the Danny homecoming video and the Kris homecoming video.

For all the talk about the producers “pimping” people, I think they put on what they think will be the best TV. Kris has come a really long way, but IMO the producers did him a favor by letting he get used to doing interviews and speaking on camera before they featured him on TV. Here’s Kris” Top 36 interview from Fox:

Kris Allen Top 36

For comparison:

Adam Lambert Top 36

Danny Gokey Top 36

Squirrely Jul 23rd, 2009 at 2:40 pm

But he would have been great at DisneyLand ‘ ¦ and I wonder what Disney’s thinking now that they see the amazing uproar he’s causing on tour.

I would love a picture of a full make-up Adam with Minnie Mouse.

I guess many people are unaware of just how many gays do and have worked for Disney for a very long time and that since 1990 Disney has held “Gay Days at Disney World” during the first week of June which now include gay and lesbian commitment ceremonies at the Wedding Chapel and a gay and lesbian youth event. So, Adam wouldn’t have really caused an uproar at Disney just maybe to some of the public in general who seem to still be unaware of this.

Poor Danny….His grasp of the English language is very limited and he doesn’t quite understand the meaning of words…he is so very pedantic. I have said that he hears a word and then tunes everything else out while he tries so deperately to formulate an “intelligent” answer while totaly loosing the essence of the question.

As far as the stereotypes that Jim. C. uses…..I think I’ve heard everyone of the ones he uses on fanbases. Besides Jim is an AI junkie and loves everything AI so I am sure he gets a lot of his schtick from the Web-lore that is around.

Yes, Alexis Grace co-hosts a the morning drive-time show on Q107.5 in Memphis, 5:50 to 10 AM. She been on since April, if I’m not mistaken.

Sigh. I’ll be deleting ANY FURTHER REHASH OF SEASONS PAST. I really get grumpy when posters IGNORE my mods.

ETA: I went back and edited a bunch of posts.

The Rehash of Season 8 is OFF-TOPIC. Like I said, I’ll be deleting all further posts on the subject

Sorry, MJ – I hate to play devil’s advocate here, but what if the headlines include quotes or articles about the past season, like Adam’s interview re the songs he sang? Is it ok to discuss in the context of that?

I just wanted to add that I now understand that Alexis Grace WAS in the studio with Manny and Riley, sorry about my confusion before.

But it’s not just a lot of the Adam fans, that hate him, it’s a lot of people from other fanbases as well.

It’s also a lot of the non-fans. The VFTW crowd and others, who basically rip apart all idols love harassing Danny on Twitter. So, to pin that on one group is utterly ridiculous.

Danny may be socially inept or sheltered or whatever excuse we’re using this week. But to me, he’s still just a douchebag. He always seems to be just flailing around at life, blissfully unaware of the finer points of being a grown-up.

As far as the SYTYCD judges vs the AI judges: Nigel and mary may talk longer than Simon & Paula, but their words are clearly centered on the performance they’re critiquing. They don’t veer off into stupid crayon stunts or little inside jokes. Simon and Paula are often just completely disrespectful to those kids as they wait there to hear the judges. The SYTYCD judges rarely if ever do that.

And, Paula, the fucking moron who will talk to any press outlet who will have her to try and play contract hardball, is the worst offender of them all. Her narcissism knows no bounds.

No, I think the female DJ just happens to also be named Alexis? It’s hard to say. But thanks for posting it! Poor Kris, what is he supposed to say about NoBo? Obviously he hates it, but he has enough respect for Kara not to go there. Let sleeping dogs lie.

ETA: Mayhaps that IS Alexis Grace doing the interview? I dunno, I’m confused. It’s a bitter irony if it is her asking all those questions about the tour, since she SHOULD have been on it!

No, that was Alexis Grace at the station. They mentioned her name, and that she would be seeing Kris again, that she and Lil who had been on the show, were from that area, etc.

And I can’t imagine Kris in Adam’s jacket. I think that thing is probably taller and weighs more than he does.

Q3 Jul 23rd, 2009 at 2:49 pm

That’s kinda funny because Danny had major pimping all season long while Kris got NO publicity or help from the producers AT ALL!! His audition video was what ‘ ¦ 4 seconds long?!!

Just to be fair, Kris didn’t get a lot of help from the producers until the end of the season ‘” when it mattered. Look at the difference between the Danny homecoming video and the Kris homecoming video.

For all the talk about the producers ‘pimping’  people, I think they put on what they think will be the best TV. Kris has come a really long way, but IMO the producers did him a favor by letting he get used to doing interviews and speaking on camera before they featured him on TV. Here’s Kris’  Top 36 interview from Fox:

Kris Allen Top 36

For comparison:

Adam Lambert Top 36

Danny Gokey Top 36

Thanks Q3 – wow Kris was almost painful to watch and Danny was much more focused. Adam was Adam. Kris really did benefit from being in the background so he could become more comfortable speaking in front of a camera.

And, Paula, the fucking moron who will talk to any press outlet who will have her to try and play contract hardball, is the worst offender of them all. Her narcissism knows no bounds.

Once again, SpenserJ I love you.

I just realized something….Paula and Danny…twins from other parents. They are freaking identical.

Thanks Q3 – wow Kris was almost painful to watch and Danny was much more focused. Adam was Adam. Kris really did benefit from being in the background so he could become more comfortable speaking in front of a camera.

Can you imagine the interview circuit from group two, Adam Allison and Kris? Adam tried to give the others the opportunity to speak first. Allison could hardly come out with anything coherent, and she had the goofiest responses. Kris stuttered and stammered, and gave very short responses. Those were the most awkward interviews ever (except for Adam).

Learning how to be a good interviewee is a difficult task. It’s not something most people are used to, and of course the kids with theater or public speaking experience in their background will fare much better out of the gate.

Adam came ready-made with that skill, but Kris obviously had to adjust. I give him credit for being a quick study and getting so comfortable with it so fast. I’ve seen performers on their 20th late show visit who still suck at it.

bcr107, thanks for that link. What a great interview. Loved Kris’s under the table snarkiness…re: group number – they didn’t have many of them so they didn’t all have to wear white.

Guess we know how Kris felt about that white group outfit in the finale. Also loved his comment on Adam’s jacket weighing a ton. It does make me wonder how Adam manages not to be dripping with sweat by the time he pulls it off. I wonder if there’s a moisture absorbing liner (removable and washable off course).

BestAI, oh, yes those early interview with Adam, Kris and Alison were incredibly painful to watch. I think they’re one of the reasons the press starting liking Adam. They were just so grateful to talk to someone that was coherent.

Can you imagine the interview circuit from group two, Adam Allison and Kris? Adam tried to give the others the opportunity to speak first. Allison could hardly come out with anything coherent, and she had the goofiest responses. Kris stuttered and stammered, and gave very short responses. Those were the most awkward interviews ever (except for Adam).

LOL! I actually don’t remember Adam’s early interviews as much (will have to watch later today), but I do remember actually not liking Allison at first because
she came across as very inarticulate and uncultured in the interviews. I felt bad about it, but I just couldn’t completely separate that from her performance, even though I was really impressed with her singing in group 2. Later on, I definitely started warming up to her, though, and loved her goofy, slightly manic, incoherent style

As for Kris – I remember his singing in that round, but also remember him being very bland and blending into the background – not sticking out at all. That was how it was until we got to about top 7 for me, I’m sorry to say. But hey, it certainly didn’t hurt him in the end

Right back at ya mandalay

Tess, I think you’re onto something there. Interesting theory – I think I’ll have to agree.

Reminder:

Is there some other way I need to be phrasing this?

REHASHING SEASON 8 IN THIS THREAD IS OFF TOPIC.

This is my third reminder. PLEASE STICK TO CURRENT TOPICS.

like Adam’s interview re the songs he sang?

What interview? I’m not going to start an OT discussion about it here, but that sounds interesting–does anyone have a link?

I don’t hate Danny or angrily tweet him or anything, and he and Adam seem to get along just fine–maybe they even like each other–but his views are still prejudiced and outdated and contribute towards making gay people legally second-class citizens.

I hate to play devil’s advocate here, but what if the headlines include quotes or articles about the past season, like Adam’s interview re the songs he sang? Is it ok to discuss in the context of that?

1) The article is not about Adam’s journey on American Idol. The reference in questions is one small sentance in a longer article about Adam Lambert. It’s mostly about the tour.

2) The reference in question–that Adam played the Idol game strategically is a topic we’ve covered here over and over and over again.

3) These re-hashing discussions are nearly always more beating of dead horses, which quickly devolves into each fan base taking sides, sparking off a fan war.

4) I try to keep these threads fresh, and interesting. Re-hashing something that happened 2-4 months ago is neither fresh nor interesting to a wider audience. You may not realize it, but the number of peeps who lurk here number into the thousands.

It does make me wonder how Adam manages not to be dripping with sweat by the time he pulls it off. I wonder if there’s a moisture absorbing liner (removable and washable off course).

Good point especially when Danny looks like someone sprayed him with a water hose.

Reminder:

I put a couple of posts back into the thread. I think a discussion of the Top 36 interviews in terms of how far the Idols have come since then is an OK topic.

I’m trying not to be too big of a bitch, but I’ve had to break up way too many fights around here lately…

The second Idol Chatter piece with Adam.

http://idol.blogs.pressdemocrat.com/10246/adam-looks-back/

any news on how Battlefield has benefited from its appearance on SYTYCD? saw that kris’ heartless got a healthy jump

MJ:

I try to keep these threads fresh, and interesting. Re-hashing something that happened 2-4 months ago is neither fresh nor interesting to a wider audience.

You said it!

I’m trying not to be too big of a bitch, but I’ve had to break up way too many fights around here lately’ ¦

I think Adam’s connotation is different than what you referenced, but you can take it any way you want. Maybe Adam is referring to you when he says “bitches”.

‘The funny part is that on TV you see Paula rocking out and she is actually dancing to ‘Rock With You’ not ‘Bohemian Rhapsody.’ She probably looks a little coo-coo doing that.’ 

Well that explains one totally goofy looking Paula moment! I know that Paula is often really on Planet Paula, and here poetry is lousy, but it seems that the producers also help make her look foolish.

HUH? Did I miss something? I don’t get this:

the rival fans are screaming at each other on the Internet

Obviously Danny has fans somewhere, but not many on the internet (or at least the several blogs I visit). This is one of the reasons the guy drives me nuts – he seems a bit of a pompous ass (and did on the show). My not liking him has nothing to do with Adam, I just find him immensely irritating. And while clutching and grabbing is ok for me at a concert, preaching is not – keep it at church!

I don’t get how that’s even a stereotype

The descriptions themselves are not stereotypes – it comes in the suggestion that it’s therefore somehow surprising that they get along or even could be friends. People with similar differences form friendships all.the.time in the real world. It’s like all the references that Kris, but not Adam, is the boy next door – that just does not match my middle American reality.

I suspect Disney is feeling incredibly thankful that he didn’t win because he would mess with their image ever so much

Disney is the parent company of ABC, who are using Adam’s “Mad World” to promote it’s hottest new drama series “Flash Forward”. They clearly recognize his talent.

The only thing Disney would have a problem with are some of Adam’s “provocative” comments and theatrics (which I honestly believe would have been toned down if he were “The American Idol”). His appearance/sexual orientation? Not in today’s world of Disney. Johnny Depp wears more eyeliner in the “Pirates” films than Adam does.

Sorry it this strays a bit OT, but Adam is not entirely inconsistent with Disney projects.

I would love a picture of a full make-up Adam with Minnie Mouse.

I’m sure he has one … everyone in SoCal goes to Disneyland And so what about Disney? There isn’t a more articulate guy anywhere (imagine the mob scene if he said he was going to Disneyland on a certain day!) … and isn’t this 2009? He’s an entertainer! He can do whatever he want with the mic stand, thank goodness!

many people are unaware of just how many gays do and have worked for Disney for a very long time and that since 1990 Disney has held ‘Gay Days at Disney World’ 

Thanks, Adamland, and I think there would be a lot of “shocked” people in this world if they just looked around. Who cares? People are people! But please nobody pick up on this because we probably aren’t up to such a philosophical discussion today … and, as Adam has said, it’s all about the singing and rightly so.

I’m trying not to be too big of a bitch

Well, MJ, I’m going to pull your chain a bit: since you brought up the dreaded word that you said we couldn’t talk about anymore … can we talk about it now?!! JK

Janie Jul 23rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm

I would love a picture of a full make-up Adam with Minnie Mouse.

I’m sure he has one ‘ ¦ everyone in SoCal goes to Disneyland And so what about Disney? There isn’t a more articulate guy anywhere (imagine the mob scene if he said he was going to Disneyland on a certain day!) ‘ ¦ and isn’t this 2009? He’s an entertainer! He can do whatever he want with the mic stand, thank goodness!

many people are unaware of just how many gays do and have worked for Disney for a very long time and that since 1990 Disney has held ‘Gay Days at Disney World’ 

Thanks, Adamland, and I think there would be a lot of ‘shocked’  people in this world if they just looked around. Who cares? People are people! But please nobody pick up on this because we probably aren’t up to such a philosophical discussion today ‘ ¦ and, as Adam has said, it’s all about the singing and rightly so.

@Janie – I posted that because so many people have harped on the fact that Adam does not fit the Disney image, yada, yada, yada. It seems like so many people live in a bubble to really be shocked so easily especially by someone like Adam who just wants to sing and entertain people – no hidden agenda, baggage, etc. Adam is more normal than a lot of people.

I deleted the link because is was not working but the reviewer really enjoyed the set and gave David Cook and the band a great review.

DL-Online

MAHNOMEN ‘” He may not have known quite how to pronounce the name, but ‘American Idol’  champ-turned-rock star David Cook gave his Mahnomen audience a concert to remember Wednesday night at the Shooting Star Casino……..

Cook’s ready wit kept audiences entertained in between faithful renditions of songs from his self-titled debut album, including the rocker ‘Bar-Ba-Sol’  ‘” complete with synchronized head-banging by his band members ‘” the anthemic ‘Heroes’  and a few lesser-known songs like ‘Mr. Sensitive’  and ‘Breathe Tonight.’ 

Cook’s humor could also be seen in his music, as he cheekily inserted a couple of bars from the Eagles’ chart topper, ‘Hotel California,’  amongst the lyrics of one of his album cuts, ‘Kiss on the Neck.’ 

He interspersed the album favorites with a few unexpected covers, from a rocking rendition of the Cutting Crew power ballad, ‘(I Just) Died in Your Arms Tonight,’  to ‘Make Me,’  a song popularized by one of his pre-’Idol’  groups, the band MWK.

After rocking the house for well over an hour, Cook slowed things down a little with a performance of the haunting album cut, ‘A Daily AntheM’  (the title is a tribute to his brother Adam, who died this summer after a lengthy battle with brain cancer), then ended the night with an encore that included his chart-topping hits, ‘Come Back to Me’  and ‘Light On.’ 

Great review. (the above is not all of the review only part of it.)

@Janie – Adam does fit right in with Disney right down to the guyliner. It seems like so many people live in a bubble to really be shocked so easily especially by someone like Adam who just wants to sing and entertain people – no hidden agenda, baggage, etc. Adam is more normal than a lot of people.

For the record I just want a picture of Adam with his glittery eye make-up posing with Minnie Mouse. I have no judgment one way or the other on how Disney would feel about it, or anyone else.

I guess many people are unaware of just how many gays do and have worked for Disney for a very long time and that since 1990 Disney has held ‘Gay Days at Disney World’  during the first week of June which now include gay and lesbian commitment ceremonies at the Wedding Chapel and a gay and lesbian youth event. So, Adam wouldn’t have really caused an uproar at Disney just maybe to some of the public in general who seem to still be unaware of this.

Being gay has nothing to do with it. Disney is G rated stuff and Adam is not G rated, nor would I ever want him to be.

Here is an interesting interview by Radio WMYX with David Cook done last week in preparation for tonight’s concert at the Washington County Fair in Milwaukee Wisconsin.

Van McNeil speaking with David Cook

Some highlights:
The tour started Feb. 13 and is continuing through mid-December.

Short discussion in regards to Adam and also whether the AC guitar will be brought out again for future concerts.

Writing is being done on the road, and they have been in the studio and cut a couple of demos.

Hope to push the current record at least to the end of the year and into the beginning of next year.

I think Adam’s connotation is different than what you referenced, but you can take it any way you want. Maybe Adam is referring to you when he says ‘bitches’ .

I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

Adam is not G rated and I am now sure why anyone would think that he fits the Disney Brand. I admit I have not been to a show but I have watched some videos of Adam’s performances on the tour and they are really for adults only.

I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

So, not just me then? I was wondering if the poster was insinuating that Adam thinks you’re a bitch. Surely if Adam met you, he would adore you as you give him and the other idols such awesome pimpin’. :lol_tb:

At this point, I’d just like to state for the record that I am a stone cold bitch. That’s wildly off topic, but I just felt like sharing.

Also, Disney produces a lot of stuff that is not G Rated. Disney is a monster-sized corporation. They have their hands in a lot of stuff. And, not everyone on their payroll is required to wear a purity ring.

If Danny wants the negative posts to stop all he has to say publicly is that he is sick of the fan wars, that all the idols should be respected, and that they are all friends.

It wouldn’t make a difference. The fact that the idols all seem to get along makes no difference. Danny is just the finalist this season that some folks love to hate, and nothing he says or does from here on out is going to change that. The sooner HE realizes this, the better off he’ll be. Stop focusing and worrying so much about the opinion of those who will never like you or support your endeavours. Those people aren’t important in the grand scheme of things.

Jordin-Her last album got off to a slow start saleswise, but she eventually went platinum. Battlefield (the single) is off to a good start, and I think she has some potentially strong follow up singles on the album. I’ll bet that she sells at least gold with this new album, which is more than respectable. It’s easy to give Chris Brown/No Air the lion’s share of the credit for the success of her last album, but she did have two other top 10 hit singles and each sold over 1 million downloads. I think Jordin deserves more credit than she gets for her success.

Who knew that humping mic stands was a new Disney dance move? The things you learn on this thread.

Did anybody see the South Park about purity rings and the Jonas Brothers, wherein Mickey Mouse comes out (swearing a blue streak) and trying to get the Jo Bros back in line promoting purity rings while getting little girls hot and bothered at the same time? It was quite hilarious, and does make the point that Disney’s “brand” is all about the squeaky clean kiddie shows and kiddie music acts, while there’s all kinds of sex under the covers, so to speak.

I don’t know how that relates to Adam, except my guess is that the microphone humping and junk grabbing and the lyrics of “Whole Lotta Love” would not work well on the Disney Channel or as a Disney recording act or on stage at the AI attraction in Orlando. Other than that, I haven’t a clue. I mean, Disney is related to ABC, that has a lot of trashy television, including the trashiest of trashy soap operas, General Hospital.

moved to the new SYTYCD thread

Who knew that humping mic stands was a new Disney dance move? The things you learn on this thread.

Don’t forget crotch grabbing! I’m sure I’ll see some of that when I finally get to visit the AI Experience!

It wouldn’t make a difference. The fact that the idols all seem to get along makes no difference. Danny is just the finalist this season that some folks love to hate, and nothing he says or does from here on out is going to change that. The sooner HE realizes this, the better off he’ll be. Stop focusing and worrying so much about the opinion of those who will never like you or support your endeavours. Those people aren’t important in the grand scheme of things.

THIS.

I do think that Danny does realize this to some extent. He seems to always keep a positive attitude and he remains himself. But at the same time, he is human, and I don’t care who you are, if people are making a sport out of bashing you, it has to hurt a little.

I felt a little sad for him the other day when he was asked what he was like in high school, and mentioned that he was a geek (and that nothing had changed…lol), and said that he used to get “beat up in school…the whole 9 yards). He’s still getting beat up, so I guess some things never change. I suppose his growing up years were good practice for his AI stint.

I do think Danny will be fine in the long run, though. Hopefully, some of the hate for Danny will subside when the next AI season begins and people pick a new person to hate….again, hopefully. I don’t pretend to know what kind of success he will have, but I do believe that he will have a music career.

Doesn’t Disney have a more adult record label?

Otherwise, Disney is what it is – G-rated and the gays are all closeted. High School Musical, isn’t that Disney fare, cough cough.

I’m so very relieved to learn that Adam loves Danny.

Danny may be socially inept or sheltered or whatever excuse we’re using this week. But to me, he’s still just a douchebag.

I hear you. Every time I am close to remotely lukewarm about Danny he opens his mouth. I don’t think I have ever had a run-in with a Danny-fan online (nor have I read about the fistfight rumor).

I never liked Danny and that has nothing to do with Adam as I disliked Danny before I liked Adam. And Adam could think Danny was the bestest thing ever, yet I would still not care for him.

Who knew that humping mic stands was a new Disney dance move?

This answers a question I had. I’ve not been to a show and couldn’t tell if he saw the mic stand as an object of affection or as an extension of himself.

Disney speaking of movies a division is miramax which has such movies as “Gangs of NY” Which is not rated G..Unless they sold it.

Lyric Street records -possibly owned by disney music group such bands as Rascal Flats..

Hey WordNerdArchie – I just got home from the David Cook concert at the Washington County Fair in West Bend Wisconsin which you referenced in your post. Fantastic. He and the band were good when I saw them in February – but they are even better now!

Tweet from Syesha:

On Malibu Beach for Tres Jolie Caribbean Magazine… PHOTOS COMING SOON!!!! http://twitpic.com/bd5y6
about 12 hours ago

Be sure to click on her twitpic link. She’s in a bikini. Ooo la la!

Brandon Rogers announces his new music video. Click on his link to watch…

CHECK OUT MY NEW MUSIC VIDEO FOR ‘JOY’ @authentikmusic @BrandonRogersla premieres new video for ‘Joy’  on Mevio – WATCH: http://bit.ly/7l60I
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