Idol Headlines for 07/10/09

Reading on the Dream Ticket people auditioning for real…I heard Caitlin MacAllister in a video clip taken – she is really good I thought…I sure hope she made it…

WOAH! Go Ryan!!

Denver Post:

When the steam is rising and the acoustics are right, you can fake a vibrato as well as Lil Rounds. . .

Oh snap!

Wow… Ryan is building himself an empire!

Congrats to Ryan. Guess he rubs some people the wrong way, but I’ve always thought it’s because he’s really trying hard to be liked. He was on our local radio station here in ATL some years back, and I always liked his voice. He is like the next Dick Clark, a people-pleaser. He deserves success for all his efforts.

I glad to hear about Elliott and way to go ryan….

In other new Ai producers are talking to the government about having Carrie U and Daughtry faces plastered on money because the mandatory 3 plus appearances on Ai is not enough…
Congress is deciding if it is unusual punishment for police,FBI or CIA to use Dannys preaching or megans caw cawing for prisoners to get info..even if they admit to everything including sinking of the titanic …

oh btw chat tonight lu and even the the greatest blog person like ever mj…or anyone else who wants..

Scott MacIntyre won’t reveal too much about the American Idols Live tour, which stops at Citizens Business Bank Arena in Ontario on July 17. . .

Um, hellooo? Don’t they get mjsbigblog in Ontario? I think the cat’s out of the bag.

but he does have something to say about the group numbers.

‘I can definitely tell you if there’s any doubt in anyone’s mind ‘” they’re not going to be cheesy,’  MacIntyre said laughing. . .

We’ll be the judge of that, Scott.

Congrats to David Cook and EEB on getting the MLB Home Run Derby gig. Lot’s of nationwide exposure.

Looking over the new Vancouver vids, some of these are excellent quality, up-close. I have a concern, though. Now I’m reading about how Kris sounds hoarse in these posted reviews, and I agree. Also, Adam-fan that I am, I have to say his set lacked the energy of the Tacoma set. (Talk about nit-picking!) Adam didn’t command the audience to dance in the Bowie set or pushed quite to full throttle in WLL like in Tacoma (and did he flub a line in Vancouver’s WLL?). Is it because they had two back-to-back nights of performances? (The ATL concert has one day off before, so maybe I’ll get to see the re-freshed group sing.) Or does the concert deteriorate overall as the summer progresses and the top 10 just get burned out? Please say it isn’t so!! I realize that Adam at reduced strength is still pretty potent, but I’d rather get the full dose. And poor Kris could be a croaking frog by July 31, not to mention Danny and Megan who already show signs of strain. Is this typical and how bad does it get if so??

Oh my, I must be the absolute most jaded person in the entire world. I just don’t understand how Scott can be considered appealing and/or worthy of this AI attention. I will go to my grave KNOWING that it is only his blindness that even got him through the auditioning process on AI.

The man has the personality of a tree…And, yes, I’ll concede that he has done well for having a physical impairment, but so have thousands upon thousands of other people. He is just so bland, and everything he says and does is just so forced and unnatural to me. But, like I said, I am just a jaded old fool.

I cannot listen to him, or watch his interviews, or read about him. It just makes me uncomfortable…I’ve just been too spoiled with the blind performers of the past and present: Jose Feliciano, Stevie, Ray, Roy Orbison, Andrea Bocelli.

Sorry, if this sounds callous.

Tess -does not sound callous at all…this is from the minority who does not get “Heartless” or moved by Kris Allens music the way others are…

Tess don’t feel bad because I’m right there with you. I have not watched not one of his performances all the way through and he kills whatever interview he’s in for me, very rare that I like one of them. I even stopped following him on Twitter because he annoyed me to much. Sarver annoys me too, but I still for him…for now.

ETA: poporange – I’m with you on that too. Heartless is good but it never moved me the way it did a lot of other people.

I agree with Mom in the suburbs that Kris sounds hoarse and Adam’s set did not have the pizzazz of the ones before. These guys had better get used to it. Musicians on the road have to be able to do 5 – 6 sets a week, so they had better figure out a way to save their voices if they want one by the end of the tour. (i.e. David Cook doing 5 – 6 shows a week, 12 – 15 songs a show compared to 5 – 6.)

Good for Ryan, he deserves all the money he gets, hardest working man in show biz.

Good for Jordin, you go girl. Torrid indeed. Perez was featuring another track of hers, hot hot hot.

Still can’t believe AGT would beat SYTYCD because I believe it when Nigel says it is the best Top 20 in the history of the show, the MJ tribute might have kicked AGT’s butt, sniff but M.J. STAT OF THE DAY: Since Jackson’s death, Sony Music has shipped 8 million CDs. That’s 8 million pieces of physical product on one artist in 14 days, kiddies. Yow [Hits Daily Double]

Samantha leigh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3ssJLcWdiQ

I get Kris but I don’t get Scott – seen better singer/piano players on vacation – in St. Maartens there is a bar called Sopranos and this guy came in doing Elton John songs amongst others AND he was very funny – blew everyone away he was the talk of the island he’s probably still doing the Caribbean piano bar circuit. However it sounds like Scott is delivering entertainment so good for him but if I were going to the AI concert, I’d have rather seen and heard Alexa Grace.

Kris may very well have a cold, so hope he gets over it fast, he sounded fine during the season, and yes indeed all the peeps will have to get used to the pace, and yes it is far less than a usual concert situation, many opening acts at a regular concert do more songs…..Adam shouldn’t have a problem, he’s been at that pace for 10 years, more or less, Cook was already used to the bar circuit which means not only singing 6 nights a week but in smoky bars to boot – I noticed all the people with experience last year did not have a problem with the Idol Tour pace though no performer is 100 per cent 100 per cent of the time, they are human as hard is that is to believe, even Cook and Lambert can’t be 100 per cent immune to the cold virus – just avoid that swine flu kids. And to be fair, all the press and glad handing with germ carrying fans doesn’t help the voice or one’s health, neither does travelling in buses or airplanes, that is something even Cook and Adam weren’t used to. I suppose good vocal training can help your ability to keep your voice going.

And yet Celine Dion won’t even talk to her husband or son on performance day. Perhaps that was before the Vegas stint though.

Loved the Kris/Allison interview. FINALLY these two get to do something together without Adam in the mix whoring up all the attention! Krallison: my two favorites of Season 8!

Since Jackson’s death, Sony Music has shipped 8 million CDs.

Holy crap that’s a lot.

I just don’t understand how Scott can be considered appealing and/or worthy of this AI attention.

I’m right there with ya. Plus, I think he’s arrogant and annoying.

Oh my, I must be the absolute most jaded person in the entire world. I just don’t understand how Scott can be considered appealing and/or worthy of this AI attention.

Scott is much better in concert than he was on tour. He can also be pretty funny. I suspect that part of the reason he was sent to do this interview is because it is for the Ontario press. He spent 4 years in Ontario. Nobody differentiates between Ontario, Canada and Ontario, California except the people that live those respective places. AI Promo person probably said, “Hey, we’ll send Scott. He used to live there! Local boy comes home kind of thing”.

I felt a little bad for poor Scott when he mentioned during the Vancouver concert that he’d lived for 4 years in Toronto. I’m pretty sure he expected an explosion of cheers. There were cheers, just not an explosion. Vancouverites had to do war between being excited he lived in Canada and our in-bred hatred of all things Toronto (LOL). Hamilton might be more receptive to the story especially if he focuses on Ontario instead of Toronto (I couldn’t tell if he pronounced the second “t” in Toronto, but if he didn’t, he’ll get bonus points).

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Go Ryan! Get 19E to spend some bucks. Of the 5 on-screen AI personalities, I think Ryan is the most fun to watch and the most professional.

I noticed all the people with experience last year did not have a problem with the Idol Tour pace though no performer is 100 per cent 100 per cent of the time

Actually, I recalled last year everyone except MJ, Chikezie, DC, and possibly Ramiele and KLC went on vocal rest at some point. But the thing I don’t get is this: these guys are singing just a couple, max 5 songs a night, which is way less than an opening act typically does, and tour schedules are typically this grueling (4 or more times a week for months)… why do they all struggle so much? Inexperience? All those interviews?

However, I think as with last year, those who are also recording at the same time have understandably a lot more to worry about, and will have to be even more careful, as they will be singing at least twice as much if not more than the others, once that gets under full swing. I agree that Adam seems to be a pro, but Kris and Allison will have to really learn to pace themselves and save their voices.

why do they all struggle so much? Inexperience? All those interviews?

I think a big contributing factor is all the interviews, meet&greets and visiting the fence lines. Plus, I suspect that they get sick a lot from fans saying “I know I have a cold, but I’m not going to miss this one chance I have to give my favourite a hug”.

Hamilton and Toronto [pronounced locally indeed as Torono or Torawna or just TO] have a great CFL football rivalry not sure if that extends, probably does.

I remember Brooke was often on vocal rest but I didn’t think she had much concert experience pre Idol, not like the people who had been in bands previously, I didn’t realize some of the others had vocal rest.

I think that is it a function of having to sing often and building up your stamina but could also be the way you use your voice which is why it is important to learn that – I am sure all the people with musical theatre backgrounds learn this from the beginning because it is essential and even then that is why they have understudies for the key roles.

True though that recording and touring at the same time is a tough haul but never affected Cookie as far as I can recall. It is a great thing to have such a reliable voice.

Go Ryan! Get 19E to spend some bucks. Of the 5 on-screen AI personalities, I think Ryan is the most fun to watch and the most professional.

I totally agree…hopefully Ryan will outlast all the judges in the business by a long shot. I don’t like how he accepted chump change compared to the $144M a season that Simon Cowell though…

Still can’t believe AGT would beat SYTYCD . . .

I can’t either, but I guess this answers the question of why American Idol seems so cheesy and lame on so many levels when compared SYTYCD. Because, clearly, that’s what (the vast majority of) America wants. :wallbash_tb:

Not a singer (wish I were one, though, but I’d need to be able to carry a tune first) but from the little I understand and the little I’ve read those who have had vocal training seem to have the least promblem (Kat aside) because they know how to sing from the lungs and not the throat. A scratchy throat won’t bother them as much, but lung congestion would take its toll but then they can move to the throat voice, right?

Singers like Danny who don’t know how to use their talent properly would have a bit of a rougher time, I presume. Some Singers can just power through most any problem…others cancel shows at the first sign of a sniffle.

I would think the idol touring contract is for x dollars per show. If they miss one they would be out between a thousand and 2 thousand bucks. That’s a hunk of change.

Loved the interview with Kris and Allison. Kris seems to have more personality when he interviews with others who have outgoing personalities. Liked him much better than in his interview with Scott, he didn’t even seem to be paying attention in that interview. Also limited his “I don’t know” answers and I appreciate that.

Just a reminder, Adam and Kris are co-hosting AT Top 40 with Ryan this weekend.

I remember Brooke was often on vocal rest but I didn’t think she had much concert experience pre Idol, not like the people who had been in bands previously, I didn’t realize some of the others had vocal rest.

I followed the M&G reports pretty closely last summer, so I know for sure that Carly, Syesha, and Archie were also frequently on vocal rest. I mean, Archie had 4 songs and recording, and Brooke is BRooke (heh, I love her still) but I always felt Carly and Sye suffered with just 3 songs because they scream so much. I mean, don’t get me wrong I thought they both sounded great on tour, but I wasn’t convinced they were singing correctly. Syesha in particular was amazing during Listen, but girl often looked ready to burst a blood vessel or something for that song, she was throwing down! I hope Sye’s gotten better at using her voice, if she’s going to do Broadway. That’s a grueling schedule as well.

Ooh very true sma11ie, Syesha better get used to the schedule and of course Dreamgirls is full of belt ‘em out songs.

and Archie were also frequently on vocal rest. I mean, Archie had 4 songs and recording
David also only has one fully functioning vocal cord. The other is still partially paralized. So vocal rest was a must for him some of the time. I remember reading where he was nervous to start his solo tour this year because he had so many songs to do almost every night. BTW he was fantastic on his solo tour and still doing great. Got to see him at 4 solo concerts and going to see him in LA and Vegas next week.

I worry about Allison because she sounds like she uses her throat to much. I hope she takes care of her voice because she is someone I could listen to.

I would think the idol touring contract is for x dollars per show. If they miss one they would be out between a thousand and 2 thousand bucks. That’s a hunk of change.

Hmmm, I don’t know about that. I recall reading somewhere that they all get a lump-sum payment of 100K for the tour, so I’m not sure they’d be penalized for missed shows. It would be interesting to find out.

But the thing I don’t get is this: these guys are singing just a couple, max 5 songs a night, which is way less than an opening act typically does, and tour schedules are typically this grueling (4 or more times a week for months)’ ¦ why do they all struggle so much? Inexperience?

I go with inexperience. I think that Adam is the only one of the Top 10 with a lot of formal vocal training. A few — Matt, Danny, Megan — have specifically commented that this is the first time they worked with a vocal coach.

Remeber how good Chris Daughtry’s voice was when he first started on Idol. Then in the last couple of shows, he had strained his voice to the point where the vocal coach had him signing laying on the floor trying to help him correct his technique. Danny, in just the area of vocal strain, reminds me of Chris.

Kris also has a unique problem that performers don’t often have. He has to constantly sing NoBo — and they won’t let him change the arrangement. Why won’t they let him arrange NoBo to get rid of these high notes? The thought of Kris screwing up his voice for NoBo makes me a little *!***@!

Just based on the videos, I am not too worried about Anoop, Lil, Michael or Megan — they all seem to be doing their performances in a comfortable range and not pushing themselves vocally. I worry about Danny — he clearly needs better vocal coaching. But I am most worried about Alison — please get with a really good vocal coach. Luv you and don’t want to see you ruin that great voice. Adam’s hairstylist did wonders for her hair, maybe she should get referred to his vocal coach, too.

Also, Adam-fan that I am, I have to say his set lacked the energy of the Tacoma set. (Talk about nit-picking!) Adam didn’t command the audience to dance in the Bowie set or pushed quite to full throttle in WLL like in Tacoma (and did he flub a line in Vancouver’s WLL?).

Have to say I didn’t notice if Adam messed up a line in WLL — does that performance have any lyrics? Ha! LOL I agree he seems a bit more deliberate about his choreography in Vancouver — particurly on WLL and the Bowie medley. I think I prefer the slightly less choreographed WLL from Tacoma, but I think the Vancouver Bowie medley was my fav of the three.

CindyM:

You beat me to it!

The American Top40 show has already been taped. I was over on IDF, and there’s a person who works for a station that airs A40 who is going to post a download that is the show but without the actual songs — just Adam and Kris co-hosting stuff.

At the beginning of this post there is a link that tells you what stations air the show and when.

http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=618806&st=20

Am I the only one who found Adam was slight off-key in Starlight (and somewhere WLL) in Vancouver? I know Adam likes to change his songs from time to time, but I think those off-keys were not intentional. Adam has a wide range, but Starlight is a difficult song to sing, and Adam tends to improvise a lot in his high register during WLL and SR. I’m more worried about his voice than any other idols (probably because I really don’t care much about them…)

ETA: MW at Vancouver was awesome.

Elliott. How soon you forget.

“Am I the only one who found Adam was slight off-key in Starlight (and somewhere WLL) in Vancouver?” I didn’t think he did it intentionally, but as I said up thread, his Vancouver set was different, not always in a good way, from Tacoma, imo. I think he RARELY misses a note, but he loves to improvise to change things up–sometimes it works and sometimes not, your mileage may vary. I shouldn’t complain though; I’ve got my tickets to a sold-out show in ATL and should feel grateful just to stand in the presence of the Fierce One and bask in the glittery glow. “I’m more worried about his voice than any other idols (probably because I really don’t care much about them’ ¦)” I’ve felt the same way. I know he’s a pro with lots of training but he’s also recording a lot while touring, and WLL is not exactly resting his voice, lol.

Hmmm, I don’t know about that. I recall reading somewhere that they all get a lump-sum payment of 100K for the tour, so I’m not sure they’d be penalized for missed shows. It would be interesting to find out.

I thought they got paid more for the tour if they finished higher. Kris paid the most, Adam next, Danny, and so on. It would make sense.

I think the top 4 does get paid more since they do sing more songs. The thing that I keep thinking back to is where I read that Ruben got paid 250-350K? It’s been so long and I lot of people use this as reference? Also, don’t they get a cut of tour merchandise sold so Kris and Adam would have the advantage there since they also have shirts.

Yeah, I think the payment scale goes by where they finished on the show, at least for the top few finishers. I thought I read somewhere that David Cook made around $5000/show last year, which would be about $250,000 for the tour (I assume that’s before taxes)

But I am most worried about Alison ‘” please get with a really good vocal coach. Luv you and don’t want to see you ruin that great voice.

NNNNOOOOOO!!!!!! Please somebody take care of Allison! :nono_tb:

Yeah, I think the payment scale goes by where they finished on the show, at least for the top few finishers.

On Larry King Live the Idols said they all got paid the same amount. I don’t know if that is true or not.

Am I the only one who found Adam was slight off-key in Starlight (and somewhere WLL) in Vancouver

He definitely changed a few things up. I have mp3s of all his Starlight performances and he’s made stylistic changes every time. It keeps it interesting. His key changes are purposeful.

re: energy level. I’m sure it ebbs and flows, but I don’t know how much you can really tell from YouTube videos.

Both Allison and Danny have those rugged type voices. I heard somewhere that those are the most likely to give out….have no idea how true that is. Both of them seem to belt alot though. I will be all kinds of upset if those two are not ok in August.

But I thought Allison had had vocal coaching? Seems her parents had her out singing from a very young age anyway. Anyone know?

The American Top40 show has already been taped. I was over on IDF, and there’s a person who works for a station that airs A40 who is going to post a download that is the show but without the actual songs ‘” just Adam and Kris co-hosting stuff.

Thanks Girlygirl! I thought it was last weekend and here, AT Top 40 airs from 7:00-10:00am on Saturday morning. I got up early just to listen and was a little peeved that I had my days wrong..lol.

On Larry King Live the Idols said they all got paid the same amount. I don’t know if that is true or not.

I think the top finishers would be too polite to say that they get paid more. It just doesn’t make sense that Sarver (with 2 solos and I guess 2 groups) would get paid the same as Kris (with 5 solos and a group).

But I thought Allison had had vocal coaching? Seems her parents had her out singing from a very young age anyway. Anyone know?

I know joy graysen was her coach but don’t know if she still is.

The American Top40 show has already been taped. I was over on IDF, and there’s a person who works for a station that airs A40 who is going to post a download that is the show but without the actual songs ‘” just Adam and Kris co-hosting stuff.

Nice! I was hoping I wouldn’t have to sit thru the entire show on Sunday. (Mostly cause I can’t stand half the songs).

I’m pretty sure I’ve heard over the years that there’s a sliding scale for tour pay, with higher placements getting more.

eta: Death of No Boundaries: YESYESYESYESYESYESYES!!!!!!

Kris’s “No Boundaries” performance has been dropped from the tour line up. From the LA Times:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/americanidoltracker/2009/07/no-mas-for-no-boundaries.html

Breaking news from LA Times! No Boundaries, Kris’s winner’s song, is being cut from the show (hee). Here’s the scoop:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/americanidoltracker/2009/07/no-mas-for-no-boundaries.html

Awesome. I hope we get “Falling Slowly” to replace it.

Good for Kris and yay for the producers for listening. I wonder what the replacement would be, hopefully something up tempo.

I remember Ruben and Clay saying that the top 3 get paid more for the tour. Maybe the top 4. The others get the same pay – but, that is a perk for lasting longer in the competition. I think that’s what the idols meant when they said they all get paid the same. But, it definitely isn’t true when it comes to the top 3.

The tour’s producers have been listening to the sound of few hands clapping. Starting tonight in Sacramento, “No Boundaries” will be disappear from Allen’s set, according to sources with the production.

A new song will take its place in Allen’s set down the road later this week.

– Richard Rushfield

So Kris will only perform 4 songs tonight?

Yes! No more No Boundaries! The peeps have spoken! I wonder if Kris complained or the producers just decided it was too much of a downer?

I was more surprised to read that Nikko Smith is also performing at that MLB gig where David Cook will be. I love hearing about former contestants still plugging away at it.

Wow – Has taking the coronation song out of the show ever happened before?

I enjoyed hearing “Time of My Life” when Cookie sang it at the AI concert I went to last year. (Of course I always enjoy whatever he sings, but I always liked TOML, acoustic or regular).On some of the YouTube vids from the tour you could see DC got pretty teary when audiences would sing it along with him sometimes. What a difference between the Magic Rainbow and this year’s song.

Regarding the variations in Adam’s performances —

Looking just at the YouTube vidoes is really tough. There was some awesome video from Tacoma were he should great and then some where he sounds off key. (I haven’t been to a T-Dome concert for years but the acoustics are really odd there.)

Adam changed Starlight and the Bowie Medley for Vancouver, but I think it is difficult to separate the performance quality from the video quality. For example, when I first heard the Seattle Times 05/07/09 Portland Starlight video I thought he was off key but then the megbro video was posted and it beautiful. Of the three concerts, there is a lot of great video from Tacoma, Vancouver not so much.

One thing has been consistently mentioned in reviews — Adam’s voice is different live vs. recorded or on TV. I only heard him sing one song live, but IMO there was a power and quality in Adam’s voice that isn’t in any of the broadcasts or recordings that I’ve heard. So many people – fans and non-fans – have reported similar things that I’ll reserve judgment until I hear him live.

Note: I also got to see Kris do 2 songs, NoBo (yukkk!) and Heartless. : ))

Kara must feel like crap.

Bwah Squirrely, I was going to say the same thing but I bet Kris is dancing a jig.

Or maybe they could have let Kris rejig the song but it might be beyond rejigging.

TOML looks like a masterpiece compared to NoB.

I mean even Ryan Star made it sound pretty good when he sang it for a joke on Cookie.

Wow, that is….unprecedented. Great news for Kris, not so much for Kara. What an embarrassment.

Maybe they should have Kris sing Time of My Life.

But I thought Allison had had vocal coaching? Seems her parents had her out singing from a very young age anyway. Anyone know?

John Michael Ferrari & Pepper Jay have been her vocal and performances coaches since she was 12. I do not know anything about them — but I have read a few different expert evaluations of Alison’s vocal technique that have expressed concern.

Here’s part of Masterclass Lady’s (Rosanne Simunovic) evaluation after Top 4 performances: (She loves Alison BTW.)

Additionally, the tension in your throat is preventing you from realizing the full capability of your vocal gifts while, at the same time paving the road for vocal health issues at some point down the road. Certainly that rasp in your voice is indication that your voice needs some tender loving care and I hope you motivate yourself to solidifying and stabilizing your voice once the show is over and before the tour begins.

that is so great for Kris. he’s been ripping his throat up with that song and it’s a complete energy killer for the show.

I’d love Falling Slowly, but it won’t be that b/c Ain no sunshine is the next song, and they can’t have too many ballads. If it’s a song from the AI show that Kris did, it will either be Man in the Mirror (which would be awesome), Come Together, or She Works Hard for the Money.

Maybe they should have Kris sing Time of My Life.

I would like to see all 8 winners in a contest, where they all sing each of the coronation songs. I true test of who can sing crap and make it sound good. As a music fan, it would be a tough contest to listen too. But what a hoot.

I hope Kris works on something not from the show and more upbeat.

Woohoo for No more No Boundaries! I’m sure Kris is relieved. I think he’ll pick something uptempo, Come Together would be good for me or maybe Remember the Time but with the band?? A MJ song could be appropriate.

Thank heavens for Kris Allen. It was bad enough that he had to perform that craptastic song on national TV in front of 25 million eyeballs – twice. For his sake and his post Idol career, I’m delighted that he’ll get to perform a real song. I’m sure he can learn another one for tonight.

Kara must feel like crap.

Based on Kara’s reaction on the night of the finale, when she said that she wanted Kris to be judged on the whole year and not on that performance, I think she knew that the song was crap. She also knew that the song wasn’t played in Kris’ key, but that’s a subject for another time.

I’m so happy for Kris, he must be thrilled.

No more NoBo!!!! Yeah! I bet Kris is happy! And I know that all the future audience members are cheering right now!!

I hope they add something upbeat and new.

If it’s a song from the AI show that Kris did, it will either be Man in the Mirror (which would be awesome)

That would be awesome, and appropriate, and it even does that whole subtle “message” thing Kris is fond of. But whatever it is, I will like it better than NB

True though that recording and touring at the same time is a tough haul but never affected Cookie as far as I can recall. It is a great thing to have such a reliable voice.

Yes, DC’s done pretty well at maintaining his voice, but the one thing this season’s group did not have to face that season 7 did is the grueling aspect of the American Idol competition that increases how much they have to sing as the season winds down. Season 8 didn’t have as many songs to sing as last year’s which involved two songs a piece on top five night, two songs at top four, three songs on top three night as well as three on top two night. Plus, they sang their group songs live.

On the finale night, after DC and DA sang three songs a piece the previous night, they both had 1) a group number, 2) a duet, 3) a group medley with Bryan Adams and the other male idols, 4) their duets with ZZtop/One Republic, 5) the closing George Michael medley *and finally* Cook had to sing “Time of My Life” as the winner. Maybe someone else could confirm if this is true, but I read a report that both DA and DC had to get cortisone shots to sing for the Top2/finale nights. Supposedly, DA got one shot and Cook got two because they were losing their voices. (I must admit, they were beginning to sound a little ragged on top three night, but they both sounded better by top two.)

I enjoyed hearing ‘Time of My Life’  when Cookie sang it at the AI concert I went to last year. On some of the YouTube vids he got pretty teary when audiences would sing it with him sometimes. What a difference.

Despite this, David Cook must be really kicking himself.

“Time of My Life” is a much better song, though, and he did pretty good with it — especially as it’s gone platinum and was on the charts for so long.

I’d love Falling Slowly, but it won’t be that b/c Ain no sunshine is the next song, and they can’t have too many ballads. If it’s a song from the AI show that Kris did, it will either be Man in the Mirror (which would be awesome), Come Together, or She Works Hard for the Money.

I doubt they’s do 2 Beattle numbers in the same set. SWHFTM would be a good choice — but I’m still hoping for something new!

I would like to see all 8 winners in a contest, where they all sing each of the coronation songs. I true test of who can sing crap and make it sound good. As a music fan, it would be a tough contest to listen too. But what a hoot.

I love (almost) all of the Idol winners, but the thought of this makes my tummy hurt.

On another note…I’m assuming this means Jive won’t force Kris to put NB on his debut album. If they’re killing it now it may also mean that he may get a debut single earlier in the summer than he would have if this had been any kind of a hit. Both very positive developments for Mr. Allen I think.

Interesting news about NoBo.

Wow – Has taking the coronation song out of the show ever happened before?

No.

This may also be the first time that the producers have ever listened to fans and critics about anything. If they did listen to us, the swaybots would have been tossed last year.

Kara must feel like crap.

Tough. She should write a better song next time.

If it’s a tune from the show, SWHFTM would probably be the choice since it is more up-tempo and would make Walmart happy. I’m sure there are lots of other songs he could sing. He could even just play them on the guitar by himself until the rest of the band has time to work on an arrangement.

The even better news is that I think it makes it even more unlikely that he will have to sing “NoBo” on Conan. I may have been one of the last people to ever hear “NoBo” sung live. I don’t know what to think of that.

On a sadder note, it looks like TPTB have decided not to utilize any of my Top 10 ways to distract the crowd during “NoBo”. I’m forever being rejected by those guys.

Rumor Central

glamour_beauty

A little birdie told us that Adam Lambert (the dude that almost won American Idol) is launching a makeup line this fall. Dying to see it!

Michael Jackson is still dominating the Global Track Chart (15 out of top 40) and the Global Album Chart (7 out of top 40).

Good riddance to No Boundaries- Kris is a lucky guy.

No Boundaries is not in Kris’s range. I think it was written with Adam and perhaps Danny in mind…both have bigger ranges. Still a sucky song, though. I’m happy for Kris, because it was straining his voice, and he gets to pick a great song for his set.

I love She Works Hard for the Money. A MJ will be appropriate too. I know I’m dreaming, but think about duet We’re the champions w/ Adam :clap_tb:

Yay for Kris!!! I actually hope he gets to pick a new song, but there are several from the show that would be great too!

I did think he really did a great job with what he was given though.

Ladymadonna, NB is already on Kris’s itunes pass so it’s already a part of his album there. But I’m curious too about the hard copy CD and any other place it will be available for download.

I do wish the same could have happened for DC last yr., but that’s history now. Also Richard Rushfield mentioned that Jordin’s song did okay on the charts, is that true? I know it didn’t do anything like TOML did.

“but I read a report that both DA and DC had to get cortisone shots to sing for the Top2/finale nights. Supposedly, DA got one shot and Cook got two because they were losing their voices.”

right. DA actually had lost his voice on finale night and was saying it came back just in time. Due to all the songs that had going on that week.

DA voluntarily went on vocal rest at times during the tour. He knew enough to be able to do that for himself and help keep his voice in shape.
It can be as much as a preventive measure too in addition to when singers *need* to go on vocal rest.

DA voluntarily went on vocal rest at times during the tour. He knew enough to be able to do that for himself and help keep his voice in shape.

It’s a grueling schedule – both the show and the tour. I respect their decisions to rest their voices when necessary. I also think fans need to try and respect when some of them can’t do M&G’s or sign autographs after the show. They need to protect their instruments. And they should all be allowed to make those sorts of decisions when necessary.

Good for Ryan. Maybe he can be the host AND take over Kara’s position, too. I would like to Simon and him bicker for real…or maybe not, but he has to be more insightful than Randy was this season. Or any season. Let Kara and Randy host…

See ya, bye, Kara’s craptastic NB. Kris doesn’t have to pick another song from Idol though, or does he?

If anyone bought the Idols’ S8 album, with not one but TWO versions of NB, said person should get his money back. Then again, who actually *bought* this?!

I do wish the same could have happened for DC last yr., but that’s history now.

The big difference is that TOML was continuing to sell very well into the summer and fall months, until it eventually reached platinum. So, as sucky as it may have been to sing a song that was not representative of his sound, at least Cook was getting some monetary returns and building a foundation for being played on the radio (outside of the immediate post-finale weeks). With Kris and NoBo, there appear to only be downsides and no upsides as far as I could tell.

Also, Adam-fan that I am, I have to say his set lacked the energy of the Tacoma set. (Talk about nit-picking!) Adam didn’t command the audience to dance in the Bowie set or pushed quite to full throttle in WLL like in Tacoma (and did he flub a line in Vancouver’s WLL?).

OK I am now officially a total nerd — or completely insane.

Adam has sung slightly different words to WLL all three times. But he actually did mess up one line in Portland. He started the second verse with “You been coolin’” which is the first line of the third verse. But then went back to the correct lyrics for the rest of the second verse.

Maybe he can be the host AND take over Kara’s position, too.

But Ryan can’t write songs, oh wait neither can Kara….

Actually I’m joking , I know she’s written some hits. Besides I think Kara has a lot to offer the judges panel and will even more so now that she has one yr. under her belt.

If anyone wonders what the local things that many posts have mentioned, one is streaming tonight (from Augusta, GA – winner gets a guaranteed audition in Denver, and those in that position have a MUCH better chance at advancing). It starts at 7 pm Eastern.

This is the 27th such contest that I am aware of (with several more tonight too), but the first to be streaming live around the world.

TPTB are really lenient this year and are not shackling the idols down

Matt is hosting a talent show – he twittered about it.

http://www.yobi.tv/make_the_cut/

Curious: Why is Adam’s Twitter account the only one certified?

ETA: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-poptheatricality12-2009jul12,0,2126134.story

This article kind of went with the discussion about Adam’s authenticity, he’s even mention in it.

Regarding the following comments about what the Idols get paid for the tour:

* I recall reading somewhere that they get 100K for the tour,
* I read that Ruben got paid 250-350K?
* I thought I read that David Cook made $5000/show last year
* On Larry King the Idols said they all got paid the same amount.

One scenario that might explain all of these comments is if the Idols get a flat fee for each solo song they perform. If they get $1000 per song, this would give people like Sarver $2000 per night for his two solos ($100,000 for the full tour). Adam and Kris would get $5000 per night ($250,000 for full tour). This would also explain why the Idols said everyone gets the same amount (maybe what they actually meant was they all get the same amount per song).

Adam Lambert won the Mr. Twitter USA competition:

http://tweeterwall.mallplace.com/usamen07072009

Now he is leading the Best Solo Male Artist Competition:

http://tweeterwall.mallplace.com/tw/worldwide/best-male-solo-artist

and the Mr. Americas Twitter one:

http://tweeterwall.mallplace.com/tw/continental/mr-the-americas

Clip of Blake Lewis’s Sad Song

http://ow.ly/gZLR

I thought he was a hip/hop-ish type artist – this is like club/dance music

No Boundaries is not in Kris’s range. I think it was written with Adam and perhaps Danny in mind’ ¦both have bigger ranges.

I think it was Danny. Remember the “OMG, OMG” from Kara the night Danny was eliminated? I believe Danny was the frontrunner when they began writing NB and thought he would just walk away with the season. Sorry Kara, never take anything for granted, lol

lizland Jul 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

Maybe they should have Kris sing Time of My Life.

I would like to see all 8 winners in a contest, where they all sing each of the coronation songs. I true test of who can sing crap and make it sound good. As a music fan, it would be a tough contest to listen too. But what a hoot.

Oh, lord, no. No one should be required to perform NB. Really, it’s kind of cruel to require anyone to perform Jordin’s song, either. [Which did not, despite what one critic said, chart or sell well. It actually performed worse than NB on both counts, even if it turned out to be less of a set-killer than NB.]

Anyway, I’m glad for Kris that he won’t have a song sucking air out of his set any longer.

Re: the amount paid for the concerts: what I had understood from last year was that 6-10 got $5000 a show, and then each of the rest got $1000 extra, with the winner getting $10000. But I never saw anything officially confirming that.

Can’t edit, so: Just looked at the stats, and it looks like NB has not passed TIMN yet in sales, but it’s within about 20K of it.