Idol Headlines for 06/25/09

Good for Syesha. I am happy for her.

We were discussing DA singing “Apologize” while playing the piano the other day. He sang it again last night in Uniondale, NY, and it was much more heartfelt and solid this second time around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNh8Iw3NS5o&eurl=http://www.snarkyarchies.com/&feature=player_embedded

Good for Syesha, that is her calling she needs to stick with it

Good for Syesha, that is her calling she needs to stick with it

That sounds like a perfect gig for Syesha. Good for her!!

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Americaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Got Talentà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ fails to see Susan Boyle boost

Good! I’m so sick of Susan Boyle and based on the incessant previews, I have no desire to watch AGT. Such fake drama and schlock. Please go away…

I’m happy for Syesha, too. I think she’ll be perfect for that part.

Syesha! I was starting to think I’d never hear that name again. Good for her, seems like a great opportunity for her and I always thought she was more of a “performer” than she was a “singer”. I think this will give her a chance to shine.

That Tulsa Today article on David Cook is terrific, including the unexpected meeting with him. I love that anyone who meets him always comes away impressed with the guy. The Tulsa media (including a fantastic radio interview) has been really great to him during his “homecoming” this week. Way to give props to the local boy made good.

I’m happy for Syesha, too. She was in no way my favorite last year, but I have such a fondness for the AI7 contestants. Good to see so many of them having some success.

Yep Syesha, that’s the kind of thing you should be doing. Now try to get a role in the Color Purple movie, mmmkay? LOL.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m happy for Syesha, too. She was in no way my favorite last year, but I have such a fondness for the AI7 contestants. Good to see so many of them having some success.

That! It’s funny, I’m even rooting for contestants I didn’t care for during the Season 7 run (Syesha, for example). I guess my overall love for that season overrides any negativity. I want them all to do well. Between Carly joining a new/old band, and new albums coming from MJ, Brooke and Jason, The Top 8 (Minus KLC. RIP KLC’s career) look to be in good shape.

Wow I love that Tulsa Today article about David Cook. Nice. Thanks for posting it.

Syesha should do well on the stage and I wish her luck.

Thank God Syesha finally woke up from her stubbornness and realized she’s meant to be in musicals and not a recoring artist! Don’t put out a CD Syesha…no one will buy it.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m happy for Syesha, too. She was in no way my favorite last year, but I have such a fondness for the AI7 contestants. Good to see so many of them having some success.

Me too, I was surprised at me being excited about Syesha news, hah. The Season 7 group is my absolute favorite, wish them all the best.

Seems like a good fit for Syesha. Hope she does well.

Photo from Del Mar, CA of DA with mom, sisters, cousins, other relatives, and Jeanette McCurdy from Icarly.

http://archuletafanscene.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/david-archuleta-family-del-mar-11.jpg

Thank God Syesha finally woke up from her stubbornness and realized sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s meant to be in musicals and not a recoring artist! Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t put out a CD Syeshaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦no one will buy it.

I was never a fan of her singing. She’s another person who I thought shouted her way through songs.
Good luck to her though….

And Mary has gotten quite annoying this season. I prefer the way Bruno goes all crazy on DWTS.

Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t put out a CD Syeshaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦no one will buy it.

Well, I’d consider buying it. I’m happy for Syesha, I think she can do really well in musicals, but I hope she still records an album. I think she really has an amazing voice.
Good luck to her, this is a great opportunity.

I can totally see Syesha in that role. She will be great.

According to two articles from Reality TV World and the Mirror, Simon is planning to quit X Factor.

According to two articles from Reality TV World and the Mirror, Simon is planning to quit X Factor.

Reality TV world is using the Mirror as its source. And, isn’t the Mirror a Gossip rag? It sounds like hearsay.

Well, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d consider buying it.

Well at least she has one fan

I have to join the chorus and agree that that is the kind of thing Syesha should be doing. Good for her! She’s not my fave person, but I do think she’s talented and should carve out a nice little career for herself. That sounds like a great start!

Completely different note, but not sure where to put this. The Dallas AI auditions are starting and Michael Castro was on some radio show this morning. The station tweeted that the AI film crew was taping in their studio. Sounds to me like they are already following MCas around as one of their stories for this season.

I’m so happy for Syesha. I thought she stuck around too long last season, but I do like her and I think musical theatre is her element.

And, isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the Mirror a Gossip rag?

Yup, Mirror is now unfortunately a gossip rag, and part of the blame can go to Piers Morgan who was once an editor of the paper. The paper has a long history (established more than a hundred years ago), generally left-of-center catering to the working class, but went down-market for most part of Piers’ editorship (Piers was the editor of two tabloid papers, notorious for the trashiness of the paper during his editorship, and widely despised for it). The paper still however still has some reputation (i.e. not completely trash) so there is no reason to think that it doesn’t have a good source for the story.

“Well at least she has one fan ”

Fanesha 300 is alive and well.. i mean go syesha! yay!

Fred Bronson of Billboard interviews with Kris, Anoop, Matt, Megan, and Sarver starting HERE.

Good for Syesha. I always wanted her to put musicals off because once the Idols get into that we never get to hear much from them for a while (Taylor- not that I care he should never have won!, LaToya, Tamyra, etc.). But she claims to be working on an album that will … someday … soon hopefully be out. She has a great recording voice, I don’t see the need to put her down in the current music world, because she’s all as good as Beyonce or Rihanna. So don’t push that out. She has a new single “Tears” up on YouTube. It’s pretty good; check it out. I’d say she could be on the radio – so I hope she continues that along with this new offer.

From Billboard Chartbeat
The important parts..

WHAT’S COOKING: On the Adult Contemporary chart’s sister survey, Adult Top 40, David Cook completes a feat previously achieved by only two solo males.

Cook collects his third top 10, as “Come Back to Me” lifts 11-10. His introductory single “Time of My Life,” last year’s “American Idol” victory song, reached No. 7, and “Light On” peaked at No. 4. All three songs appear on Cook’s self-titled debut album, which bowed at No. 3 on the Billboard 200 in December and has sold 1,174,000 copies to date, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

Not a Syesha fan at all. Girl can sing but I can’t care. She always seemed to be her biggest fan…Anyhow, I wish her well.

deleted cause you guys beat me to David’s article. : )

From Billboard Chartbeat
The important parts.

Great news. Nice to see that Come Back To Me made it to top 10 on Billboard HAC chart. I think by next week, the song will also hit top 10 on Mediabase.

To add to the quote from the BB article.

Only two other male soloists have notched at least three top 10s from an album in the Adult Top 40 chart’s 13-year history, and the previous two also did so from debut releases: John Mayer (three top 10s from “Room for Squares,” 2002-03) and Rob Thomas (four top 10s from “…Something to Be,” 2005-07).

I think David is in pretty good company with his first album.

Thanks Trina…that’s nice news for Cook. I feel like he’s really building momentum.

I’m glad Syesha got her break. I think she would have made a good recording artist once she worked through some of her awkwardness. I hope she still gets the chance.

Is that Syesha thing confirmed?? if yes, WOW that is such a fantastic gig for her!

Happy for Syesha!

Great news for Syesha. While I was never her biggest fan, I think she’s got an amazing voice and it would be a shame for her not to have a shot.

David Cook at Kiss 98.9FMà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ he’s so funny.
http://kyis.com/video.asp

David Cook completes a feat previously achieved by only two solo males.

:clap_tb: Haha, I never use these smileys, but this is pretty cool news, so I’ll make an exception :wink_ee:… or two! Good company indeed! I heart Billboard– they are always writing up such cool articles like these for stats nuts like us. Let’s hope CBTM goes a bit further quickly, so we can get a new single, heh. Cuz I’m greedy/impatient like that.

Ha, sma11ie. Whereas I will be the one to say “Let’s hope CBTM continues to climb into the Top 5 and lives a long and fruitful life on the charts so we don’t burn-off another single too quickly and DCTR can still be selling 6000-8000 copies a week this time next year, heh. Cuz I’m greedy like that.”

Congrats to Cook for another cool chart milestone.

Awww. Congrats Cook! Wow, Boat Anchor went all the way to #4? I was thinking it only got up as high as Magic Rainbows (#6). Wonder how high Come Back to Me will go?

I love that 98.9 interview – I had heard the audio but hadn’t seen the video before. DC is too cute.

Wow, Cool news for David Cook. John Mayer and Rob Thomas? Indeed not bad company to keep.

I heart Billboardà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ they are always writing up such cool articles like these for stats nuts like us.

So true. Especially the “stats nuts” part. LOL

Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hope CBTM goes a bit further quickly, so we can get a new single, heh. Cuz Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m greedy/impatient like that.

*Nods emphatically* (except maybe I’d change “a bit” to “a lot”. LOL)

David Cook at Kiss 98.9FMà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s so funny.
http://kyis.com/video.asp

Thanks for the link! Headed there now…

I’ve double checked and I don’t think this review of Cookie’s Oklahma City show has been posted yet:
http://blog.newsok.com/bamsblog/2009/06/25/concert-review-david-cook-at-oklahoma-citys-diamond-ballroom/

Unfortunate incidents in OKCity notwithstanding (stupid fans fighting; stupid fan stalker on DC’s bus) sounds like another great gig.

I think the last place David Cook would have ever envisioned himself would be “leading the pack” at adult contemporary music. Considering the fact that he markets himself as a rocker with a band, it must be a little nauseating for him to reconcile his success with “elevator music” IMHO. In fact the only place I “hear” David’s music is as XM/Sirius background at the casinos.

I am much more impressed that his album went platinum in this economic climate and that he is carving out a career one small venue at a time. Hopefully, someday, he can divorce himself from “rainbows and sunshine” and do the kind of music he really seems to want to be associated with.

here’s the official press release announcing the casting of Dreamgirls.

http://broadwayworld.com/article/Casting_Announced_for_DREAMGIRLS_National_Tour_Opens_at_Apollo_November_7_20090625

I think the last place David Cook would have ever envisioned himself would be à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“leading the packà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  at adult contemporary music.

It’s actually HAC (not the same as AC, even if it shares two letters), which is a lot more friendly to rock than Top 40 is, these days. Basically that format is the one that plays the kind of music DC puts out – Rock and Pop-rock. I’m sure John Mayer and Rob Thomas will be shocked to hear they’re making “elevator music”.

David Cook at Kiss 98.9FMà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s so funny.
http://kyis.com/video.asp

That was a great interview. “Gum is the new black”? LMAO
Also, Kyle? Sleep with one eye open, man.

If it works for Rob Thomas and John Mayer, I don’t see why David wouldn’t be thrilled by top 10 in HAC. Nauseating? HAC is where they play ShineDown, Safety Suit, Green Day, and Nickelback, too. Seems like there might be some confusion about what HAC plays. Regardless, congrats on another BB record.

As for Syesha, good for her. I thought she killed last year on Andrew Lloyd Webber night. Nice to see some news about MJ, Carly, Brooke and Syesha this week.

ETA: Yeah AC is very different from HAC. Hm, but then ToML owned AC before it went recurrent – it was #1 for more than 15 consecutive weeks, again another BB record. So yeah, AC loves them some David Cook, too. It’s all good.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s actually HAC, which is a lot more friendly to rock than Top 40 is, these days.

I pulled up the chart and many of the songs really are similar to most of what is on his album – definitely the music I listen to these days. The top 10 is made up of Shinedown, Nickleback, Rob Thomas, Theory of a Deadman, The Fray, All-American Rejects… there’s a Miley song (The Climb) and two P!nk songs plus Cookie rounding out the top 10.

Well at least she has one fan

LOL Not saying I will buy… but I’d listen to it for sure.
I liked many of her studio songs and I think she had some of the best performances of the season. Plus, what they did to her was so unfair that I kinda feel like supporting her.

ETA: Of course I’m late for the AC # HAC party

I know it’s not “Idol” related, but Rest In Peace Farrah.

Considering the fact that he markets himself as a rocker with a band, it must be a little nauseating for him to reconcile his success with à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“elevator musicà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  IMHO. In fact the only place I à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“hearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s music is as XM/Sirius background at the casinos.

I don’t know what stations you listen to but the stations in my area (SF Bay Area) that play his music also play Nickelback, Green Day, Dave Matthews, KOL, AAR, The Fray, Coldplay, Daughtry, etc. — along with the Alicia Keys, Natasha Bedingfields and Lady Gagas of this world — but that’s what HAC is, right? Of course, those other rock acts also get played on rock radio, but that will take some time. Daughtry took some time to get played on rock radio too.

(Or maybe you’re listening to AC instead of HAC? Yes, for sure, that format is closer to elevator music.)

ETA: D’oh. Late to the party as always.

Yeah, folks. I think Tess got the idea. LOL.

Unfortunate incidents in OKCity notwithstanding (stupid fans fighting; stupid fan stalker on DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s bus) sounds like another great gig.

Que?

There were reports last night that a stalker fan managed to get on David Cook’s bus. A shame.
According the the review it was another well received show.

Someone got ON THE BUS? Where the hell was security? That is scary as shit. Was the fight related to the person who got on the bus?

Eeeeep. ON the bus? Where they SLEEP?

Yikes.

Was the fight related to the person who got on the bus?

The fight along with punching, scratching and a black eye was a separate incident in the audience at the concert.

And people wonder why Idletard has a field day with Cook fans. Poor DC

Lyndsey Parker (Yahoo’s Reality Rocks blogger) conducted video interviews with all top 10 contestants. She posted Adam and Kris’s already. Here is Michael Sarver’s. From the interview, he’s not objected to recording a country album.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/realityrocks/246239/michael-sarver-on-the-scene-at-the-idols-tour-rehearsals/

Deleted…my mistake

The fight along with punching, scratching and a black eye was a separate incident in the audience at the concert.

Oh. Yikes. Well that I could see, especially if the place serves alcohol. Not that its a good thing. But I’ve been to shows in theatres that serve drinks, and yeah, a bunch of hot sweaty people packed in like sardines added with drinking can sometimes not end well.

But the BUS? That I still cannot get over. Not that a “fan” tried it, because that’s crazy fans for you. But where the hell was his security? I hope somebody got fired over that.

Eh, every fanbase has crazies.

I’m disturbed however that security was lax enough that the fan managed to get inside the bus. That’s just not safe.

btw here is a pic of david’s gold plaque, or at least the best we have

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/LadyFaenya/100_0172.jpg

Eh, every fanbase has crazies.

Ha, yeah, but the Idol ones in particular seem to be very… visible.

In regards to HAC, I do wish radio would take a cue from Billboard and start using ‘Adult Top 40′ instead of ‘Hot Adult Contemporary’ to describe the format. The format has evolved quite a bit since emerging as an offshoot of Adult Contemporary radio, and these days Adult Top 40 is a much more accurate descriptor in terms of the music played there, audience demographics, and the way the chart behaves.

Like any rock star and hottie, David is going to attract his share of groupie-wackos. But, I think that the Idol experience, and being truly grateful and gracious to his voting fans, has made David more open and accessible to his fans and, unfortunately, probably resulted in a greater number of stalkerish, entitled fans than your typical artist gets. As they say, no good deed goes unpunished.

Ha, yeah, but the Idol ones in particular seem to be veryà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ visible.

Visible to us because we are Idol fans, and also, because Idol seems to breed a very high level of scrutiny. I’m pretty sure they don’t have an “Idletard”-like site to follow and document crazies in other fandoms, so we won’t hear about them unless their actions turn criminal.
I’m not saying Idol doesn’t breed its own brand of crazy, but it’s certainly not the only brand.

Yes, I agree about the whole security thing for DC and band, that’s just scary!

In regards to HAC, I do wish radio would take a cue from Billboard and start using à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Adult Top 40à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ² instead of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Hot Adult Contemporaryà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ to describe the format. The format has evolved quite a bit since emerging as an offshoot of Adult Contemporary radio, and these days Adult Top 40 is a much more accurate descriptor in terms of the music played there, audience demographics, and the way the chart behaves.

Yeah, I agree with that. Especially since it emerged due to adults flocking away from pop radio once rap took over. It was much more like the 2 formats coming together than anything else. But, since its mostly something only industry people know anyway, it probably doesn’t really matter what its called.

Visible to us because we are Idol fans, and also, because Idol seems to breed a very high level of scrutiny. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have an à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idletardà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ -like site to follow and document crazies in other fandoms, so we wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t hear about them unless their actions turn criminal.

Its all well and good until one of these stories gets picked up by the national media. Not a good look.

My apologies to everyone that I missed the Hot in AC. I stand corrected, but since none of the idols seem to get played much here in the Desert I haven’t really identified the radio stations that may occasionally play him. To me, as old as I am, AC is still AC whether it is hot or not.

I’m just sayin’ that it would be nice if David were recognized in the genre’ he says he is in….rather than where he gets stuck in. And a question…if HAC is the home of so many “rockers” what is rock radio playing?

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just sayinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ that it would be nice if David were recognized in the genreà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ he says he is inà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.rather than where he gets stuck in. And a questionà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦if HAC is the home of so many à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“rockersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  what is rock radio playing?

Okeydoke Tess, I got ya. Okay. Rock radio has 4 different formats that specialize in different areas of rock. All of them are really small and almost all of them play lots of recurents (old songs). But in general, rock radio plays 1. harder rock or 2. “arty” rock.. stuff with lots critic cred. HAC has about the same reach as all 4 of the rock formats combined, maybe a little bit less.

Typically rock acts will pick up play on one or more of the rock radio formats, and the “softer” (read: radio-friendly and/or female-friendly) ones also get play on HAC. Not coincidentally, these tend to be the biggest sellers, save for superstar rock acts like U2.

David’s problem is that rock radio is not exactly welcoming of Idols. They don’t like bands who “sell out” anyway (i.e. – get to much pop success, don’t rise through the ranks through normal channels, put out a power ballad LOL) but they sure ain’t loving reality TV alumni. Daughtry has been the only one to break through in any capacity. And they still haven’t jumped on his new single.

But in terms of selling records, HAC is pretty much the biggest format available for radio-friendly rock songs, unless you can manage a big pop hit or two. In this climate, that is a bit tough, but it can be done. We’ll see if DC can manage a pop hit from this album before its all over. But getting on rock radio is not going to happen until he breaks through the Idol stigma or puts out just the right song. The grinding it out on the road thing might help. So would giving the band a name and releasing harder and/or more arty stuff down he road. But only time will tell how it ends up.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not saying Idol doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t breed its own brand of crazy, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s certainly not the only brand.

No, but it is a special brand. And it definitely has a unique dynamic. These are not your average band groupies. It’s a whole different breed. I think a lot of the over-investments comes from the whole voting phenomenon. So, it’s just a different animal so to speak.

On a positive note though, I think the Cooktards have just edged out the Soul Patrol and are closing in on the Claymates. They’re in it to win it.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just sayinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ that it would be nice if David were recognized in the genreà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ he says he is inà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.rather than where he gets stuck in.

HAC isn’t a bad place to get “stuck” in, as other artists who can’t get a single played there would tell you. Unlike AC (and some of the rock formats), it facilitates sales of singles and albums.

And a questionà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦if HAC is the home of so many à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“rockersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  what is rock radio playing?

Mostly established rock bands, usually older familiar rock songs, not a lot of pop-rock, not a lot of Idols.
Rock radio is good for cred, HAC is good if you want to reach beyond the rock crowd to the general population, and better for sales. I could care less about rock radio, I’m much more interested in Top 40. As in – MUCH.

Hm, well, fans break into locker rooms at MSG and Giant’s stadium here. And when alcohol is involved, who knows? They used to have a prison/holding area at Vet Stadium because Eagles’ fans were crazy. Heh.

As for the drunk woman who got into the fight, she was escorted out by security.

On a positive note though, I think the Cooktards have just edged out the Soul Patrol and are closing in on the Claymates.

LOL. I’m saying though… is there a prize for taking down the Claymates? Do we get a trophy? Do we get a check with our share of the reward money? I can up my crazy quotient if the prize is big enough. I have puffy paint at home. And Glitter.

Besides, the Glamberts are bringing up the rear. Wee need to step up our efforts big time!

Well, Rock radio is dying a slow death, which is another reason HAC is becoming home to more mainstream rock-leaning artists. But to answer your question, there are different Rock formats, and they play different music with some overlap. Active Rock is home to bands like Linkin Park, Mudvayne, Seether, Saliva, Slipknot, etc. On Mainstream Rock you’ll hear more Shinedown, Nickelback, Staind, and Theory of a Deadman type stuff. Alternative is where you’ll find Green Day, Kings of Leon, the Killers, Franz Ferdinand, and the like. AAA is home to U2, Dave Matthews Band, Coldplay, Wilco, etc.

All of these formats have been notoriously dismissive of Idol. Daughtry has had a minimal amount of success with two of his singles on the Mainstream Rock charts, and Cook got very limited play for Bar-ba-Sol, mostly on Active and Alternative. But overall Rock radio is a really rough road to hoe for anyone coming off Idol with rock-leaning material, so HAC is gonna be where they land (and where they thrive – both Daughtry and Cook have proven they can rule the HAC charts, and have sold a lot of records on the back of that airplay).

They used to have a prison/holding area at Vet Stadium because Eaglesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ fans were crazy. Heh.

They have one at the new stadium too. Actually, most stadiums have them. Beer & football tend to create violent episodes far worse than anything the AI fandoms can come up with

Thank You….now I get it

tinawina
Jun 25th, 2009 at 3:32 pm

LOL. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m saying thoughà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ is there a prize for taking down the Claymates? Do we get a trophy? Do we get a check with our share of the reward money?

Honestly, I just think it’s an unattainable goal. The claymates have been holding onto their crazy so long, I don’t know how you could top it. Plus, the crazies have actually driven all of the non-crazies out of the fanbase, so they’re all that’s left. The normal to crazy ratio is still pretty high amongst the Cook fans, while it is nearly non-existent amongst the Claymates. :lol_tb:

I guess the Claymates are the gold standard of Idol insanity but some of Cook’s crazier fans are giving them a run for their money. I’ll make a guess but are the fans fighting at the concert/ hiding on the bus well past fighting/groupie age?

Was the fight related to the person who got on the bus?

The fight along with punching, scratching and a black eye was a separate incident in the audience at the concert.

Oh my… I read the write up on Idletard about the fight, which sounds pretty ridiculous, but I’m still trying to piece together what happened with the psycho that got on his bus. WTF happened there?

Beer & football tend to create violent episodes far worse than anything the AI fandoms can come up with

Hey, but now at least at Redskin’s games you can send a text message if someone is being bad and security can come fix it. Which makes my brothers very sad (but their girlfriends very happy) because they are… well. They are very into it, they drink too much, and then they act like idiots. The good news is, despite being very tall boys, when they are drunk I can kick their ass. Ha!

I know there are crazies in every fanbase. But I’ve been to a lot of shows… including David Cook’s shows… and it was definitely… different at David’s. First of all a whole lot of older women – which is cool, you don’t have to stop loving music, I’m 35 and I ain’t quitting anytime soon… — but I could do without older women with “Cougars for Cook” shirts on and shirts with David’s face on them and David Cook necklaces and earrings . It just seems like it is a different kind of attention-getting… the signs, the shirts, whatever. Every band has groupies famous or not, even my not-at-all-famous brother had a couple, but I’ve never seen so many *signs* before!

But Idol uber-fans I think in part because of the whole “I voted for you hence I own you” mentality from the show… they seem to take it to a whole ‘nother level. Actually the fighting thing isn’t weird to me, drunk people do that . The getting on the bus thing is creepy, though (I am sure non-Idol artists deal with that crap too), and I really wish David would have better security. At least after the show I went to in Radford he had a couple police officers and a dog guarding the bus. Of course the nutty older lady (older like than my mom older) who was waiting to read him her extremely long poem (we were calling it her manifesto – she held the poor guy’s arm the whole time she was reading it) was griping about “all that security” that he had.

Holy Crap, Michael Jackson just went into cardiac arrest.

ETA…”Cardiac Arrest”. There is a Dr on the news saying very few survive a cardiac arrest.

^^ I just saw that Lisa..

A Heart attack is when the blood flow to you heart is compromised. A cardiac arrest is when your heart stops beating or the beats it is producing are not pumping the blood through your system. A heart Attack can lead to a Cardiac Arrest but not always. A Cardiac Arrest can sometimes happen for reasons other than a heart attack like an electrolyte imbalance or another reason.

Color me shocked Frog! First Ed, then Farrah this morning. This Dr was saying very few survive because the heart stops and someone needs to be right there to get it going again. He was saying since Michael was in Calif when it happened, the likely hood of a ambulance making it in time for a *good outcome* was not very likely. Wow

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll make a guess but are the fans fighting at the concert/ hiding on the bus well past fighting/groupie age?

The fan who got in the bus was young (20ish)… I haven’t heard about the other story.
This kinda of thing sucks, but it happens outside the idol world. The thing with idol fans is that there are people out there who spend their time following them so we hear all kinds of stories. But idol fans haven’t done anything new or different… they just come in masses. Instead of 1 you have 10 crazys…

Holy Crap, Michael Jackson just had a heart attack

ETAà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Cardiac Arrestà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . There is a Dr on the news saying very few survive a cardiac arrest. I guess ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s different than a heart attack?

Oh crap!! That doesn’t sound good at all.

The fan on the bus was by accounts I have seen a younger women. But I was not there so I do not know. She has been described as a “girl”

What kind of person brings a “sign” to a concert? You block the view of others and after age 16 ( I’ll be kind 18,) it’s really ridiculous. I guess I understand the Cook T-shirts, etc. except for Cougars for Cooks. That’s just over the top.

Holy shit about Micheal Jackson!!

I heard they were giving him cpr in the ambulance? i dunno

uh, michael jackson’s dad talked to tmz and he’s not doing well

interesting article:

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart_watch/35642/week-ending-june-21-2009-jobros-mo-slows/

“Low” by Flo Rida featuring T-Pain makes digital history this week. It’s the first song to top the 5 million mark in paid downloads. Last June, it became the first song to top the 4 million mark. The growth in the digital song field has been tremendous. Until December 2006, no song had sold even 2 million downloads. This week, John Mayer’s 2006 hit “Waiting On The World To Change” becomes the 103rd song to top the 2 million mark in paid downloads. The heartfelt ballad is Mayer’s first song to reach that plateau.”

shows how much digital single downloads have increased…

Cook is NY today and did an interview with WPLJ where he said that there may be a joint performance with him, Adam and Kris on GMA. This was posted by someone who listened to the interview, there isn’t audio yet, I think.

Is anyone is worried… I’m fine… just that… and too bad about Michael Jackson…

CNN is confirming he’s dead.

In that same WPLJ interview David mentioned that he will be attending David Wright’s Foundation’s Vegas Night tonight. It should raise a ton of money. Dave performed at the David Wright Gala before his album dropped. And I believe David Wright helped to fly Adam to see Dave perform on Idol last year. Nice how they are still in contact. David Wright is a very good guy. Should be pictures from Getty, I suspect.

Wright’s Foundation to host ‘Vegas Night’: Third baseman invites fans to bring A-game for charity June 25

^^ One of my favorite Cookie bromances, that. David Wright is such a great guy.

Is there audio of the WPLJ interview anywhere?

WPLJ says interview will probably be up on their site tomorrow. I recall reading that David Wright was indeed the secret donor who helped send Adam to David’s AI finale. Nice that Cookie the baseball fan gets to hang out with the baseball folks.

It is interesting to me how all the super crazy scary fan behavior gets attributed to the super fandom. Sure those may be the ones who go to 15 or more shows, wear the earrings and engage in other much maligned behavior. But I highly doubt anyone who is that much of an invested fan would do something like sneaking on Davids bus. That type of behavior is not rewarded in fandom and if the collective ever found out who that was they would not be looked upon kindly. Fandom is a society and wile it breeds the crazy there is a limit to what is and is not accepted. So to pin this on the Cook fans who are the crazy scariest bunch ever is a leap. Nobody in fandom knows who does these over the top things.

The description of radio has pretty much been covered here. A highly fragmented niche subset of radio that plays a lot of recurrents and established acts. Not many new artists get play on their limited play lists reglardless if they were on Idol or not. Spend an hour listening to your Active Rock station and you will see how hard that format is. Active Rock is not AAA, if they play U2 you have the wrong station.

The Cooktards creep me out; almost keep me from being a fan. And those stalkers who go to every show? Nuts! Beyond crazy! Do they not have a life!

I’m not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but amidst all the Michael Jackson news, Adam Lambert has come out with another statement.

Michael Slezak at EW.com reports

So DC doesn’t really have a band, just touring musicians.

No, after hearing them live and on youtubes I’d say David Cook has a really tight band. Nits may be picked.

When he recorded his album, he did not yet have a band. Therefore his album is considered a solo effort.

He’s now touring with his band, which will be named in the near future.

The Soul Patrol is still alive and well after over three years. Taylor still has lots of web sites active yet and fans are still following him across the country and oceans. . And yes many of Taylor’s fans are older women but they have never labeled themselves as Cougars, thank God. I hope Cook’s fan stick around that long and are as loyal. There are are some over zealous Soul Patrol fans but most are within the fantard normal range. (whatever your take on normal is, mine I guess is pretty liberal). The Claymates I’m not so sure about. I keep hearing things about them but don’t really know. I don’t think much I’ve read on the Internet makes me think Cook’s fans are too bad, it comes with the fame and fights happen in bars all the time. Booze effect some people that way. These guys have played in lots of bars and I’m sure they aren’t effected. I think most famous people have had situations that made them uncomfortable but the payoff in fame and money makes it worth it IMO.

Adam finally responded to the track listing leaked today. Michael Slezak wrote about it. The link is here: http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/06/adam-lambert-linda-perry.html

To me, people getting injured at rock concerts is more a factor of general admission (not having seats, IOW) than one group of fans being crazier than another. I don’t care who’s playing, if there’s fast, loud music, liquor (and insane management pushing more liquor in and amongst the crowd) and people all pushing and shoving and jostling for position, there will be at least ten or twenty people out of their minds and thinking that’s all part of the experience. If somebody pours a beer down your pants or elbows you in the eye or throws up on your shoes or smashes you into the fence, as soon as you’re trampled underfoot or shoved aside, they will go right back to their crazed screaming and flailing and RAWK & ROLL, BAYBEE!!

I went to a general admission rock concert exactly once and I would never do it again. I like concerts where I can buy a ticket with a seat number on it and, you know, reserve the right to SIT in my seat, with nice, friendly ushers who will make sure the crazy people are taken away and not allowed back in if they get out of hand.

I like David Cook, but I am not going near any concert of his given the reports of out of control fans. Who’d want to be in that crowd?

Well, smartcookie, some of David Cook’s concerts do have reserved seats. The one I went to did. So, you could still make it to one!

I have been to two DC concerts, one with reserved seating, one that was general admission. I saw some silly t-shirts and signs and some people, but I did not see any actual bad behavior. That might reflect that, with the general admission show, I did not elect to try to get one of the spots right near the stage, but instead, chose to sit in the front of the balcony. (At the Georgia Theatre which, sadly enough, has now burned down, apparently, not related to any bizarre Cook fan activity. I’d been there before and knew that the view from the front of the balcony was great. Anyway, I digress.)

So, yes, you can go to a Cook show, even a general admission one, and just enjoy it.

Smartcookie, I went to a GA Cook show and had absolutely no problems. The incidents seem to happen at the big-fan heavy places. I did not attempt to be near the front, but had a perfectly good spot halfway back. There were no signs that I could see, and no one did anything untoward during the concert. I’ve never tried to meet a star by the buses, so no idea what might have gone on there, but it would be avoidable. My experience seemed very normal.

Are most of these concerts where this stuff happens general admission?? I have tickets to see him next Tuesday but it’s all reserved seating in a performing arts center, not a regular arena. I got 2nd row mezzanine seats, so maybe I chose wisely after all…lol.

Besides, the Glamberts are bringing up the rear. Wee need to step up our efforts big time!

Oh, I have the feeling that fanbase is going to set a new standard. Maybe they won’t match the Claymates’ collective levels of mania. However, when you factor in relative size…. Clay-Nation is a tiny fraction of the size of what it used to be whereas Adam-Nation is just vast.

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Well, in all fairness, Clay-Nation was once vast in and of itself. Six years later, not so much. Lack of career can do that.
Virtually every season has at least one fan base that gets a tad overinvested (I’m being nice here) and brings on the crazy. Claymates, Soul Patrol, Archies, Cooktards, etc. Glamberts are just following tradition.
But, I can definitely see what you are saying about the Glamberts reaching new levels of crazy. I have already seen instances where, like the aforementioned groups, there seems to be a lack of understanding as to how “All Adam, All the Time” doesn’t appeal to everyone. Luckily for the Glamberts, the media has undoubtedly aided in fueling their needs, for now, anyway. But, nothing lasts forever, and when there is no new controversy and the media moves on, I fear heads might roll.

Nevermind.

I did not attempt to be near the front, but had a perfectly good spot halfway back.

I think this is the key with the general admission shows — I went to one, and I was not part of the people running (literally) to get to the front. ‘Course I also didn’t and won’t camp out to get up front. Had a great time and would do it again.

Anyway, as long as your heart isn’t set on sitting in the front row or two, I think you’ll be just fine. I sat in the 10th row in VA Beach without camping out, I did get there early (7 am) to pick up my “line number” and then went back to bed, ha!

I’ve been to one Cook show (bad fan?). I was near the front and there were absolutely no problems other than the 6’5″ dude in front of me. I didn’t see any signs (except one for Ryan Star). My next concert is in a couple of weeks and I opted to drive 5 hours to see David under the stars rather than seeing him at House of Blues in my hometown because I’m so over being crammed in like a sardine. I will bring my lawn chair and sit when I want and stand throughout the EEB’s portion of the show…I’m excited to be going to Des Moines (never thought I’d ever say that).