Idol Headlines for 06/23/07

Steinbeck’s American Idol

John Steinbeck may be best known for creating Tom Joad, but the author also provided the rough outline of Simon Cowell, a decade before the American Idol host was even born.

Newly revealed letters by one of Americaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s best known 20th century authors show that he was not only a prize-winning chronicler of his own times, but also a pop-culture genius, if more than a half-century before his time…

http://bangordailynews.com/news/t/viewpoints.aspx?articleid=151267&zoneid=34

Good morning again, Lisa. I hope I did not re-post this. I happen to love John Steinbeck and was surprised to see his name mentioned with AI.

…Nonetheless, Clarkson’s most vulnerable moments are accomplished and affecting à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  from the frisky pleadings of ”Can I Have a Kiss” to the near-suicidal despair of ”Irvine.” If you ever wondered what Sarah McLachlan would sound like with an extra set of lungs, check out ”Maybe”; it’s a great slow build of a ballad in which Clarkson fantasizes about how the guy who got away would really understand her, if only she had another chance. The sentiment reeks of desperation, but with vocal willpower this indomitable, you’re surprised her ex hasn’t been sucked into the studio by song’s end…

I agree with this review. My favorite track on Kelly’s CD so far, based on a day of listening to the stream, is “Irvine.”

I know it’s not related to today’s headlines but I wasn’t sure if people go back to previous days topics to post. I asked in the tour thread if someone in the know could tell me the difference in the format of the ai tour shows. I’ve only been to one and I’m curious. Hope it’s okay to post this here, MJ…

Good morning and thanks LisaB for giving us some headlines on this summer day.
I saw Kelly C perform on Leno last night, and I don’t know if it was because the crowd was so loud or just the song, but I did not enjoy it. She seemed to be yelling the entire song. I think it was Never Again but I couldn’t tell. I need to go and listen to it on Amazon or some other site to judge it, and the other songs on her album.

I feel like Kelly is screaming at me when she “sings” Never Again. I usually like Kelly’s music but that song is not my cup of tea.

Lu, I’ve only been to last season’s concert so don’t know the different arrangements. If I were able to go this time, I’d like to see it changed because 2 of my favorites were voted off 10 & 9 and would want to see a bit more of them mixed in.

I haven’t listened to Kelly’s album so can’t comment but do agree with the article that asked for lower ticket prices if she were to tour. I don’t go to any big venue concerts anymore because they’re just too pricey. I wanted to see Kelly and the Dixie Chicks last summer but wasn’t willing to fork out close to $200 for 2 of us to go.

Here’s some video from Paula’s b-day party with Jordin, Blake, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Pwgc60rr8

Bean,
I agree it would be nice to have the performers mixed in some instead of having them sing and disappear. That was one thing I didn’t like about last year. I’d like to have seen maybe a few more duets. I enjoyed that at last year’s show – especially Chris and Elliott. Also, I really enjoyed the guys’ Patience number. That’ll be nice if they put more stuff like that in the show this year.

Lu, I agree with you. When Kelly screams “Never Again” she reminds a little of another screamer – Janis Joplin.

I wonder why Janis Joplin’s screaming works for her but doesn’t work for Kelly? Both are fabulous singers.

Not a fan of “Never Again” but “Sober” is amazing.

Re the upcoming Bon Jovi CD, “Lost Highway” ……..

Bon Jovi will garner the #1 position on the next BB200 chart.
This is a fabulous album. Congrats to Bon Jovi!

I wonder why Janis Joplinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s screaming works for her but doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t work for Kelly? Both are fabulous singers.

Janis Joplin was one of the all time *GREAT* female blues singers of her generation. Kelly Clarkson isn’t in the same zip code as far as delivery and passion. Kelly is no blues singer – she’s all pop.

griz, I agree 100%!

Happy birthday, Randy Jackson!! This is your year to expand your vocabulary, I just know it!!

Kelly Clarkson isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t in the same zip code as far as delivery and passion. Kelly is no blues singer – sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all pop.

You must have missed her on Idol Gives Back, then. That was a chill-inducing performance full of “delivery and passion.” And when I saw her live, she was full of that “delivery and passion” that she supposedly lacks.

No, she’s no Janis (yet) but she’s not Britney either. Geez.

squishy…………..there are alot of screamers out there. Aretha and Patti are two others that come to mind, and people seem to respond as soon as a singer does this, have you ever noticed? Have no idea why that is. Maybe it signals passion to some people, I don’t know. I admit I myself react the same way. It is just that it seemed Kelly screamed throughout the entire song and now that I think of it, she did it in Sgt. Pepper too. I prefer her voice in softer stuff.

janis joplin’s sound had the affects of the
drugs she used as did much of the music of that
era. kelly on drugs would sound that way too.
need i say more

Sarah,
thaks for pointing out Kelly’s Idol appearance.
Kelly can sing any style she choses. She just
happens to chose pop rock at the moment.

Who knows if someone is or isn’t on DRUGS when they are SANGing a song…….need I say more…..of course there are the obvious druggies but many conceal it.

You must have missed her on Idol Gives Back, then. That was a chill-inducing performance full of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“delivery and passion.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  And when I saw her live, she was full of that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“delivery and passionà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  that she supposedly lacks.

No, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no Janis (yet) but sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not Britney either. Geez.

Squishy was comparing the fact that is was acceptable that Janis Joplin’s screaming was acceptable and asked why wasn’t Kelly’s, and I made the point that Janis Joplin was one of the all time *GREAT* blues singers of her generation. There’s no comparison – Kelly is pure bread “pop” and should not be compared to a blues legend.

Kelly’s AI gives back appearance was good, but again, not in the same league as Ms. Joplin, as far as I’m concerned.

Kelly can sing any style she choses. She just
happens to chose pop rock at the moment.

Exactly.

And MY point is that Kelly is not “pure bred pop.” She can sing whatever the hell she likes and quite incredibly in fact. That MIGHT be the reason why she won AI. Just maybe.

Again, griz, I agree 100%. I guess you had to live through the Joplin era to understand.

I agree that Janis Joplin is one of the all time great singers but Kelly Clarkson can DEFINITELY sing her @ss off. I think she isn’t “just” a pop singer but definitely CAN sing the blues and rock.

I have already pissed some off, so I guess I might as well piss everybody off……..

Comparing Kelly to Janis is like comparing Taylor to Ray Charles.
There is NO comparison.

I didn’t say that it was “acceptable” for Janis Joplin to scream and Kelly not to. But I said that screaming “works” for Janis but doesn’t for Kelly although Kelly definitely can sing emotional blues.

An artist doesn’t have to be a “great” like Janis Joplin but still screaming works for that artist. For some reason IMO it doesn’t work for Kelly.

I’m glad y’all cant find me and smack me when I say – I like Janis Joplin even less than I like John Denver. Those that know me here know what that means…

Oh yeah, Randy – Yo Dawg Happy Bday… hope it’s HOT!

Like I said, Lu, ya had to be there.

NOLA………..I doubt anyone is pissed off. I hope not anyway. We all have our favorites for different reasons from different eras.
coco……….the drug thing is so right. Ordinary people take drugs everyday both legal and illegal. I have tried to imagine touring and crossing time zones and being nice to people and worrying about your voice and trying to please everyone. Gah! That sure would turn me to drugs or drink. The 60′s though was a whole one extreme to the other.

A few examples of what I like to call the different sides of Kelly:

The infamous drunk Kelly singing classic Guns N Roses with Metal Skool (language not suitable for the kids).

Kelly Clarkson singing “Cryin’” by Aerosmith.

Kelly Clarkson completely PWNING the competition on Big Band night, AI1.

Kelly Clarkson singing Tony Bennett’s “Because of You”.

That IGB performance I mentioned.

Kelly and Martina doing “Does He Love You” at the Reba McIntire CMT Giants thing.

Kelly singing “Why Haven’t I Heard From You” at the same CMT Giants thing.

Singing Ray L’s “Shelter”.

Singing Annie Lennox’s “Why” in concert. I saw this live and it was f’in amazing.

Oh, so because I’m young, I don’t know the difference between good and bad music. Nice. I’ll make sure to remember that next time I go buy any music. :rolleyes_wp:

(((((((((mad)))))))))

Sure, artists can attempt to sing like others. One example of that was Carrie Underwood. She is one of the greatest artists of this generation and yet, she couldn’t do Joplin.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eZ-9e0irrAY

Again, griz, I agree 100%. I guess you had to live through the Joplin era to understand.

Right Nola, sorta like you have to have “been there”…. Janis was pure brilliance.

Check out her version of Summertime with Big Brother and the Holding Company. Have mercy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGJynZNr7rk

She was and still is considered amongst her peers and critics alike to be a MASTER interpreter of the Blues. Now whether you like the blues is another story.

Nola:

Like I said, Lu, ya had to be there.

I know Nola. I understand. I’m one of the few people I know that know the lyrics to every single Elvis Presley song ever recorded. I LOVED his music. Most of my friends just roll their eyes when I talk about the other E in my life…

….joplinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s sound had the affects of the
drugs she used as did much of the music of that
era. kelly on drugs would sound that way too.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I so appreciate it when folks come along and inject some humor into the blog.

Best call for drug testing before and after singing. hmy_tb:

Elvis must be removed from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame………..at once

I have already pissed some off, so I guess I might as well piss everybody off

Comparing Kelly to Janis is like comparing Taylor to Ray Charles.
There is NO comparison.

I’ll agree with that, Nola! high-fives, girl!

Hmmm. I happen to really like and appreciate blues. However, the comment that you have to “be there” to understand something REALLY pisses me off. Just because I am young does not mean that I don’t understand shit.

And Carrie Underwood, one of the greatest artists of this (my) generation? Hmmm. I tend to reserve that judgement until the artist has MORE than one album under their belt. And FTR, I don’t think Kelly’s one of the greatest either. They both still have a long way to go.

I wouldn’t classify Janis as blues either, and I don’t think Kelly is all pop, she has the ability to sing different styles very easily.

I know Nola. I understand. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m one of the few people I know that know the lyrics to every single Elvis Presley song ever recorded. I LOVED his music. Most of my friends just roll their eyes when I talk about the other E in my lifeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I’m 20 years old and have an Elvis purse and constantly get compliments about it or people ask me where I got it.

She was blues radname – rock/blues – in addition to heading the band Big Brother and the Holding Company, she headed a band called Kozmic Blues Band.

She was inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1995, and received a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award in 2005.

In 2004, Rolling Stone magazine ranked Joplin #46 on their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time.

I listen to her and would not classify her as blues, rock yes, rock with blues influence yes. but straight out blues? no way.
p.s. I can wiki her on my own thanks.

Good grief, yet another skirmish in Idol-land:

http://www.styledash.com/2007/06/18/photoshop-much/1#comments

Poor Kelly…

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And here’s the video:

http://www.elle.com/videoplayer/index.htm?bcpid=372302730&bclid=416330779&bctid=987239261

Warning: Kelly uses the word “like,” like a million, like, times, in like this video.

The only thing “big” about Kelly C. is her behind compared to the rest of her. If you look at her next to Carrie on the finale pics, who is small herself, Kelly is tiny. No wonder stars get bulimic and anorexic.

radname:

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m 20 years old and have an Elvis purse and constantly get compliments about it or people ask me where I got it.

How about that? I have something in common with radname! When you respond to me on the blog, Don’t Be Cruel!

Kelly has a pair of thighs to match that behind –

if you watch the video and they flash the cover at the same time — she has someone else’s arms in that photo!

I guess you had to live through the Joplin era to understand.

I’m sure Brittany and Justin’s fans will say the same in 40 years.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure Brittany and Justinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans will say the same in 40 years.

Meh. I personally hope they’re both forgotten in 40 years time, but I’m not holding my breath.

ETA: While I’m not a Kelly fan per se, I do believe that she has a great voice and if she chose to do so, she could probably blues up a song quite well and do it justice. Does that mean she’s on par with Janis Joplin? I don’t know; I personally haven’t listened to enough of Joplin’s music to even make a judgment call like that. But even if I felt qualified to make that type of a judgment based upon listening to her music or experiencing the “Joplin era” personally, that doesn’t diminish Kelly’s talent. That only illustrates a personal preference. You may not like how Kelly sings, or what she sings (Or maybe this is better stated, “How she is packaged and marketed.”), but she can sing – and that goes for Janis too. Appreciate them both as individuals; it’s not as if they’re facing off on AI, lol.

And I do agree with Sarah on this one: Youth is not tantamount to musical ignorance or a lack of appreciation for music of the past. If that was the case, I wouldn’t have Frank Sinatra, Otis Redding, or The Rolling Stones on my iPod.

I have most of Elvis’ music and have collected since the ’50s.
He will always be the #1 rocker, to me.

Janis Joplin WAS blues.

Can Kelly do blues? Let’s compare her with a great blues
artist, Marc Broussard. Here is Kelly doing Marc’s “Home.”

http://youtube.com/watch?v=X_kWca9Dm9A&mode=related&search=

The following is Marc Broussard doing blues:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pV_eeDKzqlM&mode=related&search=

Again, NO comparison, IMO.

P.S. Marc’s new CD drops on Tuesday!!!!!
I will take one of Marc’s CD’s over 100 of Kelly’s; but that’s just me

lolol hs

Nothing wrong with some bootyliciousness.

I just listened to Kelly’s entire album for the first time and I kinda like it. It put me in a mellow mood. It is better than Nora Jones’ last CD (which put me to sleep) and I think Kelly can definitely write music. There are a few songs where she could have used some help with the song writing but overall it is good.

My favorite is “Sober”. A Fantastic song. Least favorites are “Never Again” (it could have been an amazing song if it had a hook and the “scream singing” was a little toned down) and “One Minute” (too disjointed for me).

I think Kelly is at her best with more mellow/heartfilled songs actually ie “Sober” but at her worst surprisingly when she goes rocker chick or pop princess :ponder_tb:.

Kelly has a pair of thighs to match that behind à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’

That battle of the AI winner thighs – I’ll take Taylor’s thighs in a heartbeat, thanks very much

Hmmm. I’m old enough to remember, and I’m not really a Janis Joplin fan. And yes, I like the blues. There are other singers of that genre who I think are better, like Etta James for instance.

Janis’s voice grates on my ear. It’s not a matter of “being there” it’s a matter of opinion and taste.

BTW, I think Kelly could be an incredible rock singer if she had the right material.

I agree that Kelly could be an incredible rock singer with the right material. None of the songs on the “My December” album IMO showcased her potential to be an amazing rock singer though. I thought she was better at the “non-rock” songs. Perhaps the next one…

I agree, mj. I see Kelly as more of a rocker.

“Kelly Clarkson isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t in the same zip code as far as delivery and passion. Kelly is no blues singer – sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all pop.”

Sarah:
You must have missed her on Idol Gives Back, then. That was a chill-inducing performance full of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“delivery and passion.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  And when I saw her live, she was full of that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“delivery and passionà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  that she supposedly lacks.

I have to agree with Sarah here, Kelly’s performance at Idol gives back was brilliant. I bought the mp3 off itunes and have listened to it a lot.

Can Kelly do blues? Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s compare her with a great blues
artist, Marc Broussard. Here is Kelly doing Marcà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Home.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

http://youtube.com/watch?v=X_kWca9Dm9A&mode=related&search=

The following is Marc Broussard doing blues:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pV_eeDKzqlM&mode=related&search=

Again, NO comparison, IMO.

Hmmm, hard to judge exactly since the sound quality of the recording of the Kelly performance isn’t anywhere near as good as the studio track from the Broussard video but from what I can tell, it sounded like Kelly held her own pretty well there. I’d love to hear a good quality audio of her performance.

Would it be wrong of me to say that, if I were on the cover of Elle, I would appreciate someone photoshopping a new ass and arms on my bod? Just saying…

“Kelly Clarkson completely PWNING the competition on Big Band night, AI1″

Tamyra’s “Minnie The Moocher” was better and undeniably good enough at least where she wasn’t PWNED.

“Sure, artists can attempt to sing like others. One example of that was Carrie Underwood. She is one of the greatest artists of this generation and yet, she couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do Joplin.”

Carrie was doing Faith “WHAT???” Hill’s version of that song not Janis’s.

:jittery_tb:

Hey db!

:clap_tb: :lol_tb:

HMWD!!!!! We’re pumping up the party now, your time is coming soon :devil_tb:

I can hear the chants now!

Think about is: Taylor with the best thighs of any idol evah made 1.9 million in 3 months of touring, so pro-rate that using some funky fan-type math, in a year he will make 8 million and in 5 years 40 million! Taylor outshines ALL the idols!!!!!11!!!!!!!!