Idol Headlines for 06/19/07

Happy birthday, Paula!

Idol: The Musical

hmy_tb:

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I spent the last couple of years putting a little distance between myself and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹American Idol,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  says Maroulis…

Really, Con? I didn’t realize that considering I was still constant(ine)ly being treated to the sight of your “smoldering glances” at AI every opportunity you get. Heh.

Lisa, good morning.

(That Constantine link doesn’t work for me, actually.)

Corrected thank you Purps.

Did you read the rebuttal article to the one you posted on yesterdays thread?

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news06705

A flaming skull just isn’t me
His punk years over, a classical musician and fan wonders: What kind of tattoo captures his passion best?

“Notes,” Chris DeBarge says, “I do those all the time. The other day, a girl came in, she wanted a G-clef and three notes. She didn’t even care what they were.”

DeBarge, who plays guitar for the band The Curses, isn’t talking about free jazz. He’s speaking in his other professional capacity, as a tattoo artist at Stingray Body Art in Allston. We’re discussing musical designs — including the one he’s about to engrave on my arm….

Boston.com

Constantine is the cheesiest of the cheese. I LOVE cheese.

I actually wouldn’t mind seeing Rosie doing The Price Is Right. With that format, she might stop being obnoxious and go back to being the “Queen of Nice”.

Lisa B. wrote: “idol: The Musical, which is based on the idol worship of former à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  contestant Clay Aiken is headed Off-Broadwayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.”
:lol_tb: BWAHAHAHAH!!

I also had to laugh at that Constantine article. He wants to put space between himself and idol, yet he named his own label “Sixth Place”. Way to separate yourself, Con.

lol @ constantine…. he co-hosts idol buzz on Yahoo
um maybe to him distance is just baby steps hehe

Not to turn this into the Paul Potts/Idol blog, but…..there was a nice segment on him on the NBC News with Brian Williams last night. Williams also said Potts will guest on the Today show, I believe on Wednesday, but not positive about the exact day.

He has become a genuine phenom, it seems.

Thanks for that Taylor review, Lisa B! Wow. Could not have been more complimentary and gave the exact reasons why Taylor should be seen in person if at all possible.

I love Paul Potts. His singing moves me to tears every time.

Idol: The Musical

OMG,can you imagine all the Claymates showing up to see how Clay is portrayed? Worse yet, what happens when/if the play receives less than favorable reviews? The Mates will be far worse than the fire ants. LMAO

Show Clive that Kelly C matters.
Buy her cd.

Not to turn this into the Paul Potts/Idol blog, butà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..there was a nice segment on him on the NBC News with Brian Williams last night.

THANKS!! I will have to check out Brian Williams and suffer through Matt Lauer to see/hear the Paul Potts segments.

I love Paul Potts. His singing moves me to tears every time.

Me too. And I cry tears from both eyes.

Whenever I read the name Paul Pott, I think of Pol Pot, the Cambodian tyrant.

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/bcaplan/museum/polpot1.jpg

ABILYMOM!!!

LOL. Even with as much a fan of Mr. Potts that I am, I have thought that a time ot two also..

Whenever I read the name Paul Pott, I think of Pol Pot, the Cambodian tyrant.

The exact same thing happened here, my husband said what an unfortunate name.

:lol_tb:

Daughtry – Borderline London

…”Daughtry” the album is released in the UK on the 13th of August with a single “It’s not over” hitting the stores on the 30th of July so Chris popped over to the UK with his band for a bit of promotional work, slotting in a London show in the process…

During the show Chris mentioned that the band would be back in the UK later in the year so I’ll certainly do my best to catch Daughtry live again.

http://www.cdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=4415

BOULDER!!!!

Do you watch the torrents? He’s on a British show, right?

And LisaB, if you are out there, in your links I couldn’t find any review for the Cohasset Taylor show, June 16. Did I miss it? I read the nice review for the Hyannis show the next night, though.

Have I mentioned I met Taylor? :jittery_tb:

Daughtry have performed to thousands in huge venues across the US so it must have felt a bit strange playing an intimate venue the size of London’s Borderline again.

Looking at some of the venues he played I would have thought he’d be right at home.

I know I’m not one to talk but there are a few spelling mistakes in that review. Wonder if they are paid reviewers?

Nothing as yet Abily.

Abilymom ……… me, too :jittery_tb:….. ( isn’t he just the most?)

I may not give up the day job just yet, says talent showà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s opera winner

Times Online

Thanks, LisaB!

sarah, yep! I mean, it’s about the music and all, but dayum!!!!

Abilymom Jun 19th, 2007 at 9:40 am

sarah, yep! I mean, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s about the music and all, but dayum!!!!

It is all about the music, but as JJ once said about Taylor

It is not my fault that he is not a troll :wub_tb:

I would think that if the reviewer was paid, they would have been a Chris fan and not a Katherine McPhee fan.

Why would TPTB pay for review now? Daughtry has gotten their share of “the good, the bad, and the ugly” concert reviews just like everybody else. Why start now by paying reviewers off? That doesn’t make any sense.

I got some great pictures at the show. My friend who came with me took most of them, God bless her, so I could focus on the show.

And I was fortunate enough to meet up and dine with a certain benevolent blog master who we all know and love! She helped me survive the M&G!

MJ, if you are here, when we went back in after the show to go to the bathroom, he was outside signing stuff again. We got some awesome pics!

Meaning if they are paid they should spell a little better, nothing to do with who or what they like.

Try not jumping to conclusions or does everything revolve round Daughtry?

:rolleyes_tb:

Why can’t I make a comment here about Chris Daughtry without there being a remark like “does everything revolve round Daughtry?” :wallbash_tb:

Why can’t it just be a regular conversation?

Everything DOES revolve around Daughtry, doesn’t it?

At least that’s what I thought!

Daughtry have performed to thousands in huge venues across the US so it must have felt a bit strange playing an intimate venue the size of Londonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Borderline again.

Intimate venue means 150 people! :lol_wp:

Abilymom Jun 19th, 2007 at 9:59 am

MJ, if you are here, when we went back in after the show to go to the bathroom, he was outside signing stuff again. We got some awesome pics!

And where are these awesome pics? Inquiring minds want to know :ponder_tb:

And where are these awesome pics? Inquiring minds want to know

Still in my camera!

And where are these awesome pics? Inquiring minds want to know

Still in my camera! I’m afraid to download them to my computer in case I mess up and accidentally delete them! I’ll have Abilydad help me tonight.

Wow, sorry for the double post.

Abilymom Jun 19th, 2007 at 10:21 am

Still in my camera! Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m afraid to download them to my computer in case I mess up and accidentally delete them! Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll have Abilydad help me tonight.

Wow, sorry for the double post.

I can identify with that. I am so careful when I d/l I doublecheck everything i do. And as for the double post, you were thinking those pix of Taylor and you got all fangirly. Happens to the best of us :wub_tb:

Exactly! See, I can’t be trusted! LOL

…or does everything revolve round Daughtry?

LISAB:

You question the daughtrycentric world view? BLOODY HERETIC. LMAO

Not to worry, it only took the Roman Catholic Church about 500 years to pardon Galileo for such heresy. So, I guess there is hope for all us nonbelievers.

ABILY:
What did you finally end up saying to Taylor? Did you take my suggestion and mention how much your “twins” enjoy him? LOLOL

Bring your family and get ready to rock …

Six Flags, Inc. announced that beginning June 21, some of the hottest popular music acts in the country will take to the stage at Six Flags parks around the country for the STARBURST(R) Thursday Night Concert Series presented by got2B and CampusDoor! From pop to R&B to country, Six Flags is bringing music to Thursday nights with recording industry favorites including Ne-Yo, Corbin Bleu, Ryan Cabrera, JoJo, Cheyenne, Gym Class Heroes, Cartel, Jesse McCartney, Teddy Geiger, Jonas Brothers, Taylor Hicks, JoJo, Aly and AJ, Omarion, Katharine McPhee and Jordan Pruitt!…..

Earthtimes

Abilymom Jun 19th, 2007 at 10:29 am

Exactly! See, I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be trusted! LOL

Isn’t amazing how that man can reduce intelligent, capable women to creatures incapable of functioning normally? And I don’t even have to see him in person for it to happen. And it is sooooooo much fun, isn’t it? :clap_tb:

No, Boulder, I didn’t mention the twins. I’m sure he got enough of that talk from Kat!

When I sat down next to him, he shook my hand and said, “How’re you doing?” to which I answered, “Are you kidding me? Great!” Then we took the picture and he signed my CD. Then I mentioned I saw him at Avalon and asked him if he was going to sing “The Fall” that night. He leaned back in his chair and sighed a little, like a thinking reflective sigh, and said he didn’t know. And then I just babbled about how he sang “Somehow” at Avalon and I’d love to hear “The Fall” and then I thanked him and he touched my arm as I was leaving, my right deltoid to be exact.

And that was it! It was over in a blur. I did notice he didn’t smell like cigarette smoke, which was great because I hate that.

Hey..about that Stone Phillips thing about him playing with a No-show Taylor…..anyone know why Tay was a “no-show” at that golf thingy? No biggy.. just curious.

Abilymom Jun 19th, 2007 at 10:56 am

my right deltoid to be exact.

And that was it! It was over in a blur.

But you don’t remember any details since is was such a blur!! LMAO
Have you washed your “deltoid” since?

…..my right deltoid to be exact.

:lol_tb:

Lisa B Jun 19th, 2007 at 10:58 am

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..my right deltoid to be exact.

:lol_tb:

I’m with you, Lisa B. I don’t even know which muscle the deltoid is.

LOL, yes, I’ve washed all of my muscle groups since that point. There was a question in my mind for all of two minutes about my right hand, but my fear of germs (not his, but others) prevailed!

sarahinwv Jun 19th, 2007 at 10:57 am

Hey..about that Stone Phillips thing about him playing with a No-show Taylorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..anyone know why Tay was a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“no-showà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  at that golf thingy? No biggy.. just curious.

I read it was a scheduling conflict. He also had to cancel the Tahoe golf tournament. Maybe the conflict is his new girlfriend and he wanted to play with a different set of balls. :innocent1_tb:

Deltoid:

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.polands-syndrome.com/media/deltoid.jpg&usg=AFQjCNGeld3uAHtGwyp3h4FhNbixnIki-g

I did notice he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t smell like cigarette smoke, which was great because I hate that.

I HATE that too. Sometimes I have thought, with as much as Simon reportedly smokes, that he must reek of cigarettes.

…Maybe the conflict is his new girlfriend and he wanted to play with a different set of balls. :innocent1_tb:

OMG.

Sure, blame the girlfriend.

LMAO

:lol_tb:

It’s great to win new fans over at the concerts but how many new fans buy tickets to someone’s concert. I think they mostly get dragged there by friends, wives etc. Taylor still has to solve the problem of expanding his core fan base beyond the ones he picked up on idol. Although I guess he can make a decent living touring, selling CDs, books and T shirts to the solid group he has now. Hopefully they don’t run out of $ or interest in supporting Taylor for the next 20 years.

The deltoid is your shoulder? Is that all? I thought it was something really good :lol_tb:

I know, huh? It’d be a lot more exciting if I’d said my pect or my glut!!

Her independent step went a little too far

Kelly Clarkson’s current career meltdown is a study in the tricky politics of the music business. On one side of the aisle: a young singing star who wants to take the artistic reins from her seasoned handler. On the other side: the seasoned handler, Sony BMG chief Clive Davis , who wants his cash cow to keep cranking out the hits. The knee-jerk response: damn the suit, who values profit over art and would keep a budding songstress down in order to keep his revenue stream flowing.

But it’s more complicated than that……..

Boston.com

LisaATL… you bad girl… ( hand slap )…. funny though !! There could be soooooooo many sexual golf inuendos !!!!!! I won’t go there…..oh man…. it’s hard not to !!! :zip_ee:…… hole in one.. WHAT????? WHO SAID THAT?????

sarahinwv Jun 19th, 2007 at 11:13 am

LisaATLà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ you bad girlà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ ( hand slap )à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. funny though !! There could be soooooooo many sexual golf inuendos !!!!!! I wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t go thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..oh manà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hard not to !!! :zip_ee:à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ hole in one.. WHAT????? WHO SAID THAT?????

Moi Bad!! I’m just saying what all of you are thinking. And after watching him play golf in person, I can say he has great balls to play with :thumbup_tb:

Abilymom Jun 19th, 2007 at 11:12 am

I know, huh? Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be a lot more exciting if Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d said my pect or my glut!!

Well, pect maybe, but glut doesn’t turn me on at all. :thumbdown_tb:

Is anyone on this blog thinking about going to Taylor’s concert at Six Flags in Atlanta? I want to go, but the idea of going by myself to a general admission concert is not too appealing. It would definitely be more fun to have someone to talk to.

Say it ain’t so…Taylor ditched the golf tournaments? You know, I must say, I intensley dislike that term “scheduling conflict”. There is a negative conotation that goes along with it. It makes you think that it wasn’t important to him. I feel like a mother now…I don’t want to see him screw up these opportunities to make contacts and deals. We all know that a lot of them happen on the golf course. FORE!!!! End of sermon….

JustTheFacts Jun 19th, 2007 at 11:42 am

Say it ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t soà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Taylor ditched the golf tournaments? You know, I must say, I intensley dislike that term à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“scheduling conflictà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . There is a negative conotation that goes along with it. It makes you think that it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t important to him. I feel like a mother nowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to see him screw up these opportunities to make contacts and deals. We all know that a lot of them happen on the golf course. FORE!!!! End of sermonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

Maybe it wasn’t important to Clive. After all, Taylor playing golf in Bham was for charity, not for Clive. And God forbid that an AI do something for charity that was not connected to AI :shock_tb:

Maybe it wasn’t important to Clive. After all, Taylor playing golf in Bham was for charity, not for Clive. And God forbid that an AI do something for charity that was not connected to AI

Clive Davis has nothing to do with Taylor’s tour. The decision to ditch the golf tournament yesterday would be Taylor’s decision.

It was a beautiful day on Cape Cod yesterday. I’m just sayin.

Stopping by to read the news and thank LisaB as usual! I also want to thank MJ (even tho I did on gofish) for the most excellent videos I have seen of a Taylor concert other than being there! Name your price MJ!!
jpfan…….oh yeah, Taylor is winning over new fans! And young ones at that. Imagine! Teens and twentysomethings!And especially, even younger ones. And DJ’s too if you ask them. Some gotta do what they are told.

Seems Paul Potts has taken the spotlight off the newest American Idols, at least temporarily. Does that mean that opera singers should now go to audition for AI?

Jackson, McCoy return to Fest

…But for those fans who relish seeing musicians for the first time, there is some good news: eight acts, mostly the lesser-known ones, are making their Country Fest debut this year.

Taylor Hicks, who precedes Evans to the stage Friday night, is also making his first trip to Cadott. In 2006, Hicks won the fifth season of FOX-TVà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idol.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ …

Chippewa.com

Does that mean that opera singers should now go to audition for AI?

There have been classically trained singers in the past.

http://www.americanidol.com/contestants/season5/stevie_scott/

And G4 who came in second on the first X Factor

http://www.g4site.com/home.php

mj Jun 19th, 2007 at 12:04 pm

Clive Davis has nothing to do with Taylorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s tour. The decision to ditch the golf tournament yesterday would be Taylorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s decision.

It was a beautiful day on Cape Cod yesterday. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just sayin.

So Taylor played hookie. What a bad boy!! Someone should spank him :devil_tb:

LisaB……….thanks for the reminder.

LisaATL, I am sure Taylor didn’t anticipate that very long drive to Iowa, but if you feel the need to punish him……..:)

madaboutu Jun 19th, 2007 at 12:25 pm

LisaATL, I am sure Taylor didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t anticipate that very long drive to Iowa, but if you feel the need to punish himà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..:)

That’s not really the need I feel, but, WTH, I’ll take what I can get :laugh_tb:

Fantastic Kelly Clarkson article. I totally agree with what the writer said. I think she took it a little too far.

American Idol: The Musical?

The press notes for the musical describe it as such:

Idol: The Musical is “a satirical musical comedy that focuses on the outrageous and delusional fan base of the hit television show. The musical takes place in Steubenville, Ohio where a group of dork-like students are preparing for their high school graduation after which they are determined to drag themselves out of the dregs of the middle-of-nowhere. There are eight of them; all belonging to the same cult-like club that meets daily in a barn that doubles as a shrine to Clay Aiken. They are actively ridiculed by the rest of Steubenville; a humiliating situation that doesn’t deter their quest for all things Clay. They are victims of A.D.D., Ritalin, their misguided obsessions and their innocent longing for their elusive ’15 minutes.’à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ …..

Buddy TV

squishy Jun 19th, 2007 at 12:31 pm

Fantastic Kelly Clarkson article. I totally agree with what the writer said. I think she took it a little too far.

Yeah, one of the not fun things about being an adult is to compromise. Maybe meeting Clive halfway would have still let her get her point across and then maybe the next album push for what she pushed for this time. But what the hell do I know?

Well, I’m old, so I will give any of the idols the benefit of the doubt about their decisions. I’m not sure people in their 20′s always make the best decisions even with help, and are still trying to find their way.

L.A.’s KOST DJ’s Mark and Kim are having interviews with Kelly Clarkson and Blake Lewis this week. Separately of course.

Lisa B
Jun 19th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
American Idol: The Musical?
Idol: The Musical is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“a satirical musical comedy that focuses on the outrageous and delusional fan base of the hit television show.

So much opportunity for snark and yet so little time.

I also love MJ way too much.

ABDUL TEAMS UP WITH CHICKEN SOUP

Grammy-winning singer PAULA ABDUL is set to team up with popular motivational book series Chicken Soup For The Soul – in a bid to help inspire young girls around the world. The American Idol judge will create both books and greeting cards with the self-help franchise, and is aiming to lend her support to her fellow females through the medium of the written word. She says, “I’m teaming up with the people behind the Chicken Soup For The Soul books and greeting cards aimed at girls and young women. “The message will be ‘keep your dreams alive.’”

Contactmusic.com

MJ……..you are getting big kudos on the boogie today. Excellent job! Are these vids going to be posted on the Tube also? More exposure there. Thanks again.

my right deltoid to be exact.

Could you be more specific..LOL

Taylor still has to solve the problem of expanding his core fan base beyond the ones he picked up on idol. Although I guess he can make a decent living touring, selling CDs, books and T shirts to the solid group he has now. Hopefully they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t run out of $ or interest in supporting Taylor for the next 20 years.

JPFan, you don’t have to worry your pretty little head over Taylor’s career. I look at it this way, better to have 500 who love you for you and be with you for the rest of your career than to have 5,000 who only love your hot cd and may not be around when your next one drops. Even Kelly is learning the reality of being an instant success and she is on her third cd.

sexygirl Jun 19th, 2007 at 1:07 pm

JPFan, you don;t have to worry your pretty little head over Taylorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s career. I look at it this way, better to have 500 who love you for you and be with you for the rest of your career than to have 5,000 who only love your hot cd and may not be around when your next one drops.

Amen Sexygirl. I plan to go to Taylor’s concerts until I’m a little old lady in a wheelchair. Of course, that happens next year :lol_tb:

Links to official (read: legal) streams of Kelly’s new CD:

MSN:
http://entertainment1.sympatico.msn.ca/Music/Artists/Articles/KellyClarkson

MTV:
http://www.mtv.com/music/the_leak/kelly_clarkson/my_december/#

VH1:
http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/clarkson_kelly/1557463/album.jhtml

Kelly Clarkson’s My December: Rumors Aside, LP Isn’t A Radical Departure
Singer’s controversial third outing has some aggressive, grungier songs à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  but it’s not all rage and angst.

…And in a preview of the album on Monday night in Century City, California for a taping of “Nissan Live Sets on Yahoo! Music,” Clarkson joked about her label battles during breaks from rocking the stage with a powerful mini-set that boded well for the scaled-down tour she’s expected to launch later this year. (Check out a recap of the show.)

“It’s not about making people upset,” she said, referring to taking creative control of her album. “It’s about not settling. … Nobody wants a sequel to Breakaway, because sequels are never as good as the first one.”…

MTV.com

sexygirl…..you are so right on! And when I can like an artist who can sing one song 20 different ways, direct the band like an instrument and blend into it at the same time, look both dorky and sexy at the same time. What more could one want?

Kelly Clarkson Previews My December

Fear not, Kelly Clarkson fans à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  the cancellation of her large-scale summer tour might actually be the best thing that couldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve happened to you. That is, as long as she follows through with her plan to reschedule it in more intimate venues.

On Monday night the former à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  champ went the intimate route with a few hundred lucky fans for a taping of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Nissan Live Sets on Yahoo! Music,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  alternately charming them with her humor and humility, and then thrilling them with hits and previews of her upcoming My December, due June 26….

You-R-Here

Truth be told, from a fans point of view, wouldn’t we all rather see the artists in smaller venues?

The Scoop: Behind the scenes at star-studded charity golf tourney

…Among those scheduled to appear at the event, but didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t show, were season-five à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  champ Taylor Hicks, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Todayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  show cohost Matt Lauer and comedian George Lopez…

… Questions that Suburbarazzi would have asked Hicks: Which à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  judge would make the best golfer? Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s your take on Sanjaya Malakar? Does Soul Patrol become Hole Patrol on the golf course? What was it like working with Mount Kisco resident Rob Thomas?…

Suburbarazzi

Two quotes that stood out for me from that Boston article on Kelly

Quality artistry and big sales aren’t mutually exclusive; look no further than Clarkson’s career so far, and Davis’s track record, for proof.

The most depressing part of all this isn’t witnessing the proverbial collision of Art and Commerce. It’s admitting — after cheering her declaration of autonomy and defending her right to self-expression — that Clarkson may be better at singing songs than writing them.

All I’ve got to say is, humility goes a long way. I hope Kelly finds some and relinquish her throne. There is nothing wrong with compromising. Especially when you’re new to the game…

wants a sequel to Breakaway, because sequels are never as good as the first one.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Okay, just that quote alone would makes me not want Kelly C to write her own songs until she learns to see outside the proverbial box. Someone needs to tell Kelly that Never Again is very and I mean very similiar to Since You’ve Been Gone..Even the angry ex-girlfriend storyline seems the same. One would have thought that NA was the continued anger from SYBG.. But, Kelly does not think so…

Truth be told, from a fans point of view, wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t we all rather see the artists in smaller venues?

I know I would..

madaboutu Jun 19th, 2007 at 1:20 pm

sexygirlà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..you are so right on! And when I can like an artist who can sing one song 20 different ways, direct the band like an instrument and blend into it at the same time, look both dorky and sexy at the same time. What more could one want?

Well, Mad, I could think of some things, but MJ does not have an adult section of the blog yet. :devil_tb:

Seriously, I agree with you. I’ve never been interested in a performer enough to travel to multiple concerts in the same tour before I found out about Taylor. And it is for the reasons you stated.

LisaATL……Amen! And you know what, when I watched the HOAD vid with Brick Wall in it, I couldn’t help but hope dingo gets to see it. OK, I’m chatting so I will get off. Right now I am hearing E on KOST and it appears they are really pushing him.

Here is Kat in Vegas, it’s just a little snippet, they cut out her performance, RCA doesn’t like things being put on youtube. If you watch the end, she is not drunk in any way, and someone gave her that glass of champagne, when she was done performing. Just goes to show you can’t believe everything you read.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/media/video/cinevegasmag.html?video=1

madaboutu Jun 19th, 2007 at 2:06 pm

LisaATLà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Amen! And you know what, when I watched the HOAD vid with Brick Wall in it, I couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t help but hope dingo gets to see it. OK, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m chatting so I will get off. Right now I am hearing E on KOST and it appears they are really pushing him.

Good for E!! He is my other man :wub_tb:

LOL — LisaATL is ON today!

and lisab is always ON!

Well, Mad, I could think of some things, but MJ does not have an adult section of the blog

And I never will.

# carolina Jun 19th, 2007 at 2:09 pm

LOL à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  LisaATL is ON today!
# 90 carolina Jun 19th, 2007 at 2:10 pm

and lisab is always ON!

thank you carolina!! Maybe there is something about being named Lisa :blush_tb:

If you watch the end, she is not drunk in any way, and someone gave her that glass of champagne, when she was done performing. Just goes to show you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe everything you read.

I figured the champagne was to wash down the pills!

Seriously, there was no way to surmise that she was drunk just from those pictures, and since there was no video with the article for me to watch and judge for myself, I figured it was a boatload of hooey.

But even if she were a little tipsy, who cares, really?

But Nanny, what happened to “good for Kat, so what if she was drunk, it’s Vegas baby?” I agree with Abily, who cares if she drank (it’d be a different story if this were a concert she was giving, and she bombed out in front of young girls and their parents or something), but since she looked plotzed, I shall snark!

All Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve got to say is, humility goes a long way. I hope Kelly finds some and relinquish her throne. There is nothing wrong with compromising. Especially when youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re new to the gameà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Okay, just that quote alone would makes me not want Kelly C to write her own songs until she learns to see outside the proverbial box. Someone needs to tell Kelly that Never Again is very and I mean very similiar to Since Youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve Been Gone..Even the angry ex-girlfriend storyline seems the same. One would have thought that NA was the continued anger from SYBG.. But, Kelly does not think soà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I think Kelly was being pretty humble about the whole thing. She knew it might not produce a bunch of hits or sell a million CDs, but it was important for her to make her CD this way. She’s said that if the album tanks, it’s her fault and hers alone, and she’s ready and willing to accept that. I think that’s very mature, and I stand behind her 100%. And frankly, if Clive Davis was concerned about his bottom line, he could have completely pulled the plug on this. As far as I’m concerned, by releasing the album, he and his supporters lose the moral authority to whine about Kelly costing Clive money. If he had that much of a problem with it, wouldn’t he have done something about it?

I am curiously waiting to see what the reaction is if Taylor, who sorry to say is no master songwriter himself, decides he wants to make a CD “his way” and has to go up against Clive and an army of Diane Warren-esque songwriters.

But Nanny, what happened to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“good for Kat, so what if she was drunk, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Vegas baby?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I don’t care if she was drunk, she’s 23 years old, she can be drunk if she wants. I was just proving the point that not everything we read is true. This video just came out today and I think it’s obvious that she is not intoxicated here. That is the only point I was trying to make. Either way I would have said Way to go Kat!! Drunk or not.

Done posting now.

^^^^Why is she upset if we are agreeing with her? :ponder_tb: :huh_tb:

American Idol The Musical :

takes place in Steubenville, Ohio where a group of dork-like students…

Steub. is right across the river from my city !!! Literally….like 3mins away because of the panhandle…. tell ya what though…. Dean Martin was from Steub. and they just had their Dean Martin Festival this past weekend.. It’s kinda fun ….. :drunk_tb:

I’m not upset Abily, I just wanted to get that video out there. Everytime I post it’s challenged in some way that’s all, but I am not upset. I think you might have read what I was saying the wrong way.

Just wanted people to know the story of drunk Mcphee was false, even though it wouldn’t have mattered either way.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

I’ve noticed this thread going a bit off topic? Can we keep the focus on today’s news articles and not beat certain topics into the ground? Thank you.

Cool, Nanny. It was the impossible part that made me think you were upset.

Sorry mj, I’m not used to no daily chat yet. I’ll shaddup.

Nanny Mcphee : I finally know were your screen name came from… it’s a movie, right?…(i just like to figure out how some people pick their names…. (dingo !!!!

Yeah sorry MJ, I posted a new Kat video. I should wait until Lisa B does it, but I didn’t know if she would have found it or not.

Peace.

For folks who want to “chat” there is a brand new chat room…:).

sarahinwv Jun 19th, 2007 at 2:48 pm

Nanny Mcphee : I finally know were your screen name came fromà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a movie, right?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦(i just like to figure out how some people pick their namesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. (dingo !!!!

Sarah, can you figure out mine :lol_tb:

I’ve checked chat out but every time I go during the day I’m there all by my lonesome! I talk to myself enough already!

Do me. Do me. I mean figure out my screen name. Okay jp are my imaginary initals and fan is I’m a fan. Boring but sexygirl called me pretty. Lisa from Atlanta right? (By the time Kelly releases her album people will be sick of it.)

mj…hint taken….LisaATL …. duh ? huh ? *doink* :dunce_tb:

Nanny it was perfectly ok for you to post the video. If you find recent ones or articles that haven’t been posted feel free.

jpfan…chat.. go …my answer..

I cant go to chat. My pooter at work won’t let me :tongue2_tb:

mj, your videos on gofish are incredible. I hope you had as much fun as it looks like!

I can’t do chat either. Seems to freeze up my computer. Sorry.

I think Kelly was being pretty humble about the whole thing. She knew it might not produce a bunch of hits or sell a million CDs, but it was important for her to make her CD this way. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s said that if the album tanks, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s her fault and hers alone, and sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ready and willing to accept that. I think thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s very mature, and I stand behind her 100%.

Yep, she is..All the way down to believing that NA is nothing like SYBG..

Also, wanting something so badly that it is preventing you from seeing the forest for the trees is called stubborn, not humility.. No matter how good her words are.

if Clive Davis was concerned about his bottom line, he could have completely pulled the plug on this. As far as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m concerned, by releasing the album, he and his supporters lose the moral authority to whine about Kelly costing Clive money. If he had that much of a problem with it, wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t he have done something about it?

Kat, Clive is a smart man. He may have a big ego but he is not stupid. He is not in the business for 40 yrs doing what he has been doing on a fragile ego. He seems to subscribe to the pholosphy, leave the a stubborn minded person alone and eventually they will hang themselve. As we are know seeing with Kat.

Just incase we have forgotten due to our blind hate for Clive, for whatever reason, Kelly came to Clive from a singing show, not as singer/songwriter.. There are artist in Clive’s stable who’s career he has built from the ground on up who have sold way more cds than Kelly and don’t have a problem co-writing or having other writers on their cd.

Mark my word, Kelly will be doing a lot of backpeddling in her own little way in the next few weeks. She will defend her actions, pretend that there was not any real feud between her and Clive. And claim tha this was all blown out of proportion, thanks to the media..

Boring but sexygirl called me pretty.

Jpfan, I like your sense of humour..LOL

I am curiously waiting to see what the reaction is if Taylor, who sorry to say is no master songwriter himself, decides he wants to make a CD à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“his wayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and has to go up against Clive and an army of Diane Warren-esque songwriters.

I would say that only Taylor and Clive knows what type of cd he is going to make on his second go around. Kelly is not Taylor. And just like all the other artist in Clive’s stable, one hopes he treats all the Idols as individuals and not how we assume he treats them. Especially since we really don’t know anything more than what we feed each other and deduce due to our personal feelings about Clive.

Also, Lucky for Taylor that he’s already ahead of the game. He has two cds under his belt and Clive allowed him to have three of his own written songs on his current cd. So that shows some respect for his material which can only make Taylor feel good. Also, since his song-writing has received quite a bit of positive praises from the critics, somethig tells me he will be fine.

Plus, I don’t feel that Taylor or any of these Idols should be a snob about allowing other writers to be on their cds. Especially if they are new to the song-writing game. As long as the song fits their cd. I think it’s quite arrogant of anyone of them to feel that only their works belong on their cd. If artists who have been part of Clive’s world for so long don’t have a problem with adding other writer’s songs to their cd, then I cannot understand why a bunch of singers from a cheesey singing show all of a sudden think they are above anything Clive asks of them. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you..

I love you guys !! I love mj… I love chat….and I love the word “pooter”… (now, my fav. word)

Yet another “American Idol” finalist coming to area

A month after Bo Bice played The Chance in Poughkeepsie, and two months before Taylor Hicks comes to the Mid-Hudson Civic Center, a third “American Idol” alumnus will perform in the area.

Paris Bennett, who reached the top five during the fifth season of the national talent show, will perform in Fishkill on Friday evening….

Poughkeepsie Journal

Sexygirl,

You make a lot of sense. :ponder_tb:

Just incase we have forgotten due to our blind hate for Clive, for whatever reason, Kelly came to Clive from a singing show, not as singer/songwriter.. There are artist in Cliveà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s stable whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s career he has built from the ground on up who have sold way more cds than Kelly and donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a problem co-writing or having other writers on their cd.

But this isn’t about what other artists want to do, it’s about what Kelly wants to do. This was important to her and I back her on that. I don’t care whether or not she’s a good writer, because I don’t have to buy the CD if I don’t like it. I don’t care how much money she makes or doesn’t make for Clive, because it’s not my concern, and since he let this supposedly career-killing album see the light of day, I’m assuming he doesn’t have that much of a problem with it, either.

What I DO hate about Clive is how he makes these bright-line distinctions between “art” and “commerce” as if no person who EVER came from a talent show could ever be a real artist. Which, IMO, is a bunch of malarky. How come no one rallied around Clive Davis when Bo was dropped from RCA? All the talk was of Bo going on to greener pastures and Clive being evil and horrible for trying to force Bo into a pop box when he’s really a southern rocker. He and Kelly both came from AI; why is Bo an artist if Kelly isn’t? Why is Taylor an artist if Kelly isn’t? Can you not be a pop star first and an artist second? You might not like Kelly’s music or songwriting, but I streamed the album today, and I do kind of like it. So I don’t think one opinion is enough to determine whether or not her songwriting skills are worthy of the term “artistry.” To me, her music comes from the heart, from her emotions, and that qualifies.

I guess I don’t understand why Kelly wanting to write her own material is bad when she’s not out there shouting out about how it’s necessarily BETTER than what other people could give her. A better representation of her as an artist, maybe, but not necessarily better lyrically. She’s not claiming that she’s as good as Diane Warren or Kara Dioguardi (songwriters who, IMO, suck, but are proven hitmakers). Everything I’ve seen seems to indicate that she’s well aware of the risk she’s taking, that she’s 100% prepared to accept the responsibility of failure, and that this was something very near and dear to her heart. Wanting to put out one product during her career, a product that’s 100% hers, without input or influence, renders her in need of a spoonful of humility? I hope not. Thinking that NA and SUBG are different songs renders her in need of a a spoonful of humility? The two songs have similar themes, but are also quite different in a lot of ways (one is a less melodic, more stream of consciousness tirade; the other is a hooky pop breakup song).

I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s quite arrogant of anyone of them to feel that only their works belong on their cd.

A musician wants to write her own music!Oh, horror of horrors! SNORT.

I’m going to take a break for a bit.

One more reminder: When replying to your fellow poster, be very careful not to reinterpret their words, or put words in their mouths…thank you…

Kat.. don’t call yourself that ! I think you are on the higher rung on the intelligence ladder. Talk to everyone in a few days… mini vacation !! ‘Ciao !!

Yamin to sing national anthem at D-Backs game

Yamin capitalizes on Idol fame.

Elliott Yamin, an American Idol finalist last year who is performing at Marquee Theatre on Wednesday night, will sing the national anthem earlier in the day at the Diamondbacks game…

AZCentral

Have fun Sarah!

Yamin to sing national anthem at D-Backs game

Oh Lord – Guess we’ll have yet another debate on which idol does the best rendition of the national anthem… ho-hum.

Nothing wrong with Kelly wanting to write her own material. The problem I see was her not willing to compromise particularly since it is SonyBMG that is footing the bill for the promotion of the CD.

Once her contract is up and if she wants to put out her own music without anybody telling her what to do in which she doesn’t have to compromise, then she can go the indie route. Until then, there is nothing wrong with a little give and take.

The problem I see was her not willing to compromise particularly since it is SonyBMG that is footing the bill for the promotion of the CD.

The artist foots the bill for the promotion of the CD. Cross-collaterization means there is probably a lot of money in Kelly’s kitty.

Once her contract is up and if she wants to put out her own music without anybody telling her what to do in which she doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have to compromise, then she can go the indie route. Until then, there is nothing wrong with a little give and take.

Clive has never been accused of being a shrinking violet. I’m sure that he has the wherewithall to stand up to Ms. Clarkson if he is so inclined. He can and has axed completely recorded CDs in the past. I’m sure that there was some and give and take between the two. There is nothing wrong with trying to get more take than give. That’s part of negotiating. Clive still has the whip hand.

Clive released the CD. His choice. He obviously decided that the possible gains exceeded the possible risks (afterall, he is said to be a good businessman and we all know he will get canned if he doesn’t at least try to make money for his shareholders). He may be a tad grumpy because he thinks he could have had even more gains if she’d recorded what he wanted, but he’s made the business decision to run with this one.

When I buy a car, I try to get the lowest price possible. When I sell my house, I try to get the highest price possible. I don’t consider either of these actions to be a demonstration of my lack of humility. I see them as capitalization in action. Nobody has to take the price I offer unless they want to.

If an artist is not willing to try to see their artistic vision fulfilled, they aren’t much of an artist. Kelly tried and she succeeded in getting her music on the CD. Clive let her do it. Who am I to complain if those two reached an agreement?

I may not personally care for Jackson Pollock’s works, but many people do. Who am I to say he would have made his art dealer more money if he’d stuck to the tried-and-true “Dogs Playing Poker”? I’m sure that the art dealer thought a time or two, “Why can’t this dude just paint a nice flower or a basket of fruit once in a while?”, but he stuck through the paint splotches because he figured there was some sort of market for them. Just as Clive has decided to release this CD.

News from Season 5 4th Placer, Anthony Federov (currently starring in Broadwayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Long-running THE FANTASTICKS ):

http://www.theatermania.com/content/news.cfm/story/10991

Off-Broadway Theater to Be Named After Jerry Orbach

The Snapple Theater Center (1627 Broadway at 50th Street) will name one of its two theater spaces after actor Jerry Orbach, who died of prostate cancer on December 28, 2004 at the age of 69. The current home of the Off-Broadway revival of The Fantasticks will be named The Jerry Orbach Theater at a private dedication ceremony to be held on Thursday, June 21, from 6:30 to 7pm; an adjacent rehearsal studio will be named in honor of Orbachà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s widow, Elaine Cancilla-Orbach.

Sam Waterston, Orbachà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s colleague from TVà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Law & Order, will speak at the dedication, and Karen Ziemba (Curtains) will perform. Among the other notables scheduled to attend the ceremony are Mariska Hargitay, Bebe Neuwirth, Kelly Bishop, Celeste Holm, and Anita Gillette, as well as Fantasticks co-author Tom Jones and the revivalà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s current star, Anthony Federov .

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’
Anthony recently performed a song on TV he wrote in memory of his brother. See here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4b04czGMD8&mode=related&search=

Here he is performing a song from THE FANTASTICKS :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHJ3Ok-2yI&mode=related&search=

Here he is performing the National Anthem at the METS-DODGERS game :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr_ZJF40CMY&mode=related&search=

Nanny Mcphee : I finally know were your screen name came fromà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a movie, right?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦(i just like to figure out how some people pick their namesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. (dingo !!!!

Exactly right Sarah!!! I was trying to think of a name and all the ones I wanted said they were taken, so I happened to have just watched that movie and I wanted to represent being a Kat fan. The movie had Mcphee in the title and Bam, I got my name. :smile1_tb:

Clive is not going to lose money on Kelly’s record. Typically the artists only gets 10-15 percentage “points” from each sale, and the label keeps the rest. (and the artist doesn’t even see that money until they pay the label back out of THEIR SHARE, so there you go. Don’t get me started on that one). So she doesn’t have to sell much at all for Clive to get what back what they put out. He just wants Kelly to make the label a huge profit like last time, and she’s saying he’ll just have to (possibly) settle with a modest one this go around. Big whoop. You won’t catch me crying for Clive. LOL.

I’m not comparing them in terms of success, but Elliott said in an interview he rejected offers from majors to have more control of his music. He went with an indie and traded the support of a major for more control of his music. If Kelly feels unhappy with Clive, she will the opportunity to do the same thing and may be a happier artist for it. I wouldn’t normally cry for Clive either but the music business is in dire shape.

tinawina
Jun 19th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
Clive is not going to lose money on Kellyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s record. Typically the artists only gets 10-15 percentage à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“pointsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  from each sale, and the label keeps the rest.

The label most certainly does NOT keep the rest.

He went with an indie and traded the support of a major for more control of his music. If Kelly feels unhappy with Clive, she will the opportunity to do the same thing and may be a happier artist for it.

I’ve seen rumours that Kelly signed a six album deal. That’s a long time to wait to have some artistic freedom.

She negotiated with Clive and got what she said she wanted. I don’t have a problem with people trying to get the best deal possible.

Sure, she won her contract on a television show, but I don’t think that means she has to spend 12 years of her life rolling-over and acquiescing to every one of Clive’s demands without any attempt at getting what she wants. The system gives her a little bit of leverage and she used it. I’m sure that she is aware that if the album tanks, much of that leverage is gone.

For those arguing that music is just a business, consider this exerpt from an article by Danny Goldberg of Artemis Records:

So let’s take our mid-level artist, and say that she managed to sell 200,000 copies of her latest CD. How does the artist make out? Based on a royalty rate of $1.40 per album, 200,000 CDs sold results in earned income of $280,000. However, before the artist buys her mom a car (or pays off her college loans), she first needs to deal with the dreaded recoupment. If our artist received a $25,000 advance and spent another $115,000 making the record, this $140,000 is deemed recoupable, which means that the label can collect that amount against royalties.

Also, let’s assume the artist received $70,000 in tour support (recoupable) and another $70,000 in recoupable video and promotional support (this is usually split between the label and artist). That adds up to $280,000 in recoupable advances, thereby canceling out the $280,000 earned by the artist on points from her CD sales. Royalty-wise, it’s a wash. (There’s a holdback for returns of 15-20 percent, but royalties for these à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“reserves” are usually paid out in 18 months minus any actual returns.)

Album royalties, luckily, are not the only stream of income for an artist. Artists who write their own material enjoy a tremendous economic advantage over those who do not. If an artist writes her own songs, she earns additional monies known as mechanical royalties. Assuming a mediocre .75 percent mechanical rate per song times 11 (a roundabout number of songs on an album), the hypothetical writer-artist would earn around 60 cents an album, or $120,000 on sales of 200,000 units. (Artists with a strong contract can get up to 85 cents in mechanicals per album-and these payments are all à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“from record one,” and not subject to any kind of recoupment.) Solo artists like [Aimee] Mann or [Michelle] Shocked also don’t have to divide royalties with other musicians, although they will have to pay managers, lawyers, and accountants (standard is approximately 25 percent of net income).

http://www.rapcoalition.org/label_exec_$$_breakdown.htm

If the music industry is “just a business,” does Kelly’s behavior become more acceptable when it’s framed in terms of “counter-negotiating for a better rate of return,” rather than “being self-indulgent?”

111 Smiley
Jun 19th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
mj, your videos on gofish are incredible. I hope you had as much fun as it looks like!

Where can I find MJs videos on Go Fish? I have been gone a lot lately…maybe I missed a link? Also I have a new posting name I used to be Botay but changed to Later.. : )

Katharine is one of the Bachelorettes of the Year at Maxim
http://www.maximonline.com/articles/index.aspx?a_id=7601

Christmas came early for Boulder?

Kirsten..

Word

Does the label put any money in the process of making and trying to sell a CD? Who pays for the producer, the mixer, etc when a CD is made? Is it the artist or is the label? So if the CD bombs but someone (according to Kirsten is the artist) footed the bill to promote the thing in the first place.

Then if the artist is in the “red” than I guess the artist could lose thousands of dollars while they were trying to promote something that ended up bombing. Where does that money come from if the artist doesn’t have it in the first place and can’t recoup it from sales since there were no sales if the CD bombs?

So what the hell does Clive care if Kelly’s CDs bombs or not? He isn’t losing any money if that is the case if all the money comes from the artist. That is probably why Clive allowed it to be released for he doesn’t lose any money if it bombs (nor does he make any money of course).

Now it makes sense why Clive allowed this CD to be released. No skin off his nose.

(For the record, I do not think that Kelly’s CD is going to “bomb”. I think it will sell fairly well actually.)

Then if the artist is in the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“redà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  than I guess the artist could lose thousands of dollars while they were trying to promote something that ended up bombing.

It is a little more complex than that. Ideally, the artist never loses any money, they just fail to make any money.

Nevada has explained this many times much better than I can explain it (and Kat provided a nice explanation from the Rap Coalition above).

If a new artist puts out an album that bombs, the record company loses the money that they advanced (just like if the bank loans a business money and it fails before the loan is paid back). But, the company can recoup the cost if they roll the dice and the second album that the artist makes is a success. Or, if the artist previously had a successful album, they held some of that royalty money in reserve in case the next album flops. This is known as cross-collaterization.

So, let’s say for the sake of argument that the holdback is 20% (I don’t know) and that Kelly makes $1.40 per album (using the number from Kat’s article…but I don’t know). She sold almost 6 million copies of Breakaway in the US.

6 million x $1.40 = $8.4 million

From that, the company would have recouped the recording cost of her album, advances, promotional costs, tour support, etc. And they would have held some of the royalty money for cross-collaterization.

$8.4 million x 0.2 = $1.68 million

That’s $1.68 million to offset the costs of recording, advances, promotional costs, tour support, etc for “My December”

Of course, I’m just making up these numbers (except the 6 million) and there are probably contractual caps and all sorts of nonsense I know nothing about. But, it gives you an idea of what we are talking about. (Nevada is probably cringing at this wild a$$ speculation)

Summation: Royalty money from album 2 is used to offset the risk for the record company for album 3.

Still, there are opportunity costs and Clive wants max money so he won’t be happy if “My December” just doesn’t lose money. He wants it to make a LOT of money. Plus, he wants some money in reserve for album 4.

Did you read the rebuttal article to the one you posted on yesterdays thread?

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news06705

Yes, I did, Lisa. I erroneously posted the rebuttal article first at that last thread so that might be why you didn’t notice it. Heh.

Lisa B
Jun 19th, 2007 at 10:00 am
Meaning if they are paid they should spell a little better, nothing to do with who or what they like.

Try not jumping to conclusions or does everything revolve round Daughtry?

I understood exactly what you meant Lisa. Although your comment is being misinterpreted over on the scary boards. Apparently you were set straight

No worries Maggie..very soon it will be HMWD

HMWD FTW!!!111

Katharine is one of the Bachelorettes of the Year at Maxim

‘Twas only a matter of time.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:lol_tb:

Sometimes I absolutely love life. I mean REALLY LOVE life. First, the brilliant Paul Potts wins Britain’s Got Talent. Now this proud announcement. MAXIM called ***. My bloody month has been made.

One of the best parts about this little news item, which makes it even more priceless, is that it was served up so nonchalantly. Oh the naivety of youth.

I am reminded of a time when I was growing up. My familyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ the parents, two older sisters, three younger brothers, and meà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ were all sitting down to eat dinner. Steven, my youngest brother, proudly announced that he had learned a new song at school that day. Of course, he was excited and we all encouraged him to sing it. He smiled broadly as he stood up from his chair and began singing the following lyrics with the naive innocence of a 5 year old child:

Old MacDonald sitting on a bench
beating on his meat with a monkey wrench,
He missed his meat, hit his balls,
and pissed all over his overalls.

GOOD–He learned a new song.
NOT SO GOOD–He learned the above song.

All at the dinner table held in their collective laughter.

So…..

I suppose it is an honor, of sorts, that *** has been recognized as a bachelorette (along with Lisa Lampenelli and Condoleeza Rice, among others)

BUT it is for MAXIM

No holding in laughter at this one.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:lol_tb:

Why she made the list:
We always knew she could sing, but somewhere between coming up short on American Idol and appearing on The Tyra Banks Show, she got hot. Plus, she has no problem being felt up.

Drawback:
She was discovered by one of the most annoying shows on television.

TICK TOCK Miss McMee (Ã ¢’ž ¢RSF), it is now official, your 15 minutes are just about up.

ROFLMAO

:lol_tb:

Christmas came early for Boulder?

MAXIM

***

Ho, Ho, Ho.

RUMOR MILL

GOING TO MONTANA: Hannah Montana ne Miley Cyrus is making the publicity rounds to promote the new Disney Records album for the hit cable show, the follow-up to last yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s chart-topping debut, which entered at #1 over Barry Manilow. The album hits retail next Tuesday (6/26). Miley appeared on MTVà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s TRL yesterday, will perform live on ABCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Good Morning America this Friday (6/22), appear for an in-studio radio interview with Ryan Seacrest next Tuesday (6/26), perform live at Hollywood and Highland with a press conference at noon (6/26), tape Regis & Kelly Live for airing early July, and participate in a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Live Video Chatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  on Amazon.com a week from Wednesday (6/27). (6/19p)

http://hitsdailydouble.com/news/rumormill.cgi

That was for the “Hannah Montana Roxs!” crew and other interested parties, if any. Hee-haw! ;-D

HMWD!!!!!! :clap_tb:

Good one Purps.

Hannah ROXS!!

Why are people who aren’t fans of Chris reading the Chris scary board?

I didn’t know it was a private forum over there. Just keeping it real Squishy. Maybe you should try it. :annoyed_tb:

Why are people who arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fans of Chris reading the Chris scary board?

Possible reasons:

1) Some people are fans of more than one Idol

2) Some people accidently click on the wrong thread and start reading before they notice.

3) Some people are bored and looking for something new to read.

4) Some people are morbidly curious to see how comments on this blog are misrepresented at other sites and how some people say different things depending on the audience.

Kirsten
Jun 20th, 2007 at 9:58 am
Why are people who arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fans of Chris reading the Chris scary board?

Possible reasons:

1) Some people are fans of more than one Idol

2) Some people accidently click on the wrong thread and start reading before they notice.

3) Some people are bored and looking for something new to read.

4) Some people are morbidly curious to see how comments on this blog are misrepresented at other sites and how some people say different things depending on the audience.

BINGO on number 4!!!!! :clap_tb: