Idol Headlines for 06/10/09

LOL @NY Times! They act like they just discovered something new.

Rob Zombie ain’t no f–cking Adam Lambert. And thank God for that! What a sourpuss!

That photo of Taylor wearing the cheesehead in Grease is a hoot. I wonder if he’ll wear a Red Wings Jersey here in Detroit when the Wings win the cup…

LOL @NY Times! They act like they just discovered something new.

HA! I was just thinking the same thing.

And Rob Zombie? Seriously?! I don’t exactly know what to think about The Defamer, but I think it’s interesting that Adam is still trending on Twitter (could it be that Rolling Stone comes out today? Ya, probably). I cannot wait to get the issue, and I cannot wait for Adam to start working on, you know, HIS ALBUM. I bet he won’t get to play on 20/20 (or any other show: is that TPTB forbid him going on Jimmy Fallon, Conan, etc. till after the Tour?), but it would be great to hear him sing and not discuss his homosexuality (b/c he went on Idol to SING, not to be GLADD’s spokesman). Not that I don’t think he is incredibly HOT, b/c I do.

I hope Susan Boyle is all right..

Taylor a cheeshead now? Well that does bring cheeseness to a new level glad he is having fun…(next time a Arron Rogers shirt?)

SYTYCD -Go Evan!!!!!!

Magic won …Go Dwight :cheese1_ee:

btw David did Imagine on the piano and sang prayer of the children acapella.

Frogcooke “btw David did Imagine on the piano and sang prayer of the children acapella.”

Any ideas if vids have been posted? Nothing on YT and fansites yet.

Hey, here is more of the interview with Adam from RS. What he says in this piece about discrimination is really interesting (and funny but sad).

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/28577050/adam_lambert_in_his_own_words_sexuality_kris_allen_and_life_after_idol

He also talks more about his relationship with Kris and Allison — awwwww…

One part that confirms for me that he knows what he’s doing:

On life after Idol:
I’m hopeful. I have a great opportunity right now. There are a lot of people who want to work with me that I really respect. And hopefully it works. I’m not cocky because I’ve seen a lot of guys come off this show and bomb, so I recognize that I could crash and burn. But if I play it safe, it’s not going to work, so I might as well go for it with the same intention that I had on the show.

Since when has anyone said ADAM is MICK JAGGAR?? ADAM IS ADAM and not a rock singer but an artist all of his own, unique! CAN”T WAIT FOR THE CD!!!!

From the RS Adam Lambert in His Own Words: Sexuality, Kris Allen and Life After Idol

Two interesting quotes:

On experiencing discrimination:

A few years ago, I did a musical with Val Kilmer, The Ten Commandments at the Kodak Theatre in Los Angeles. I was finally personally awakened, wearing nail-polish, feeling attractive and comfortable in my own skin for the first time. We’d go out sometimes with Val, and it was the first time I’d ever been around a celebrity à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  it felt really fabulous. One night, we hung out at his house and Sean Lennon came over to jam with us. I was like, John Lennon’s son? This is the coolest thing I’ve done in my life. But I had a lot of problems with the people putting on the show. One day, the director pulled me aside and said, “Can you turn it down? The producers are a little uncomfortable. It’s a little too … gay.” I was like, “Um, are we doing a musical here? I’m sorry, there are fags all over the place, dude.” It was very upsetting.

On making his sexuality public:

There are so many old-fashioned ways of looking at things, and if we want to be a progressive society, we have to start thinking in a different way. There’s the old industry idea that you should just make sexuality a non-issue, just say your private life’s your private life, and not talk about it. But that’s bullshit, because private lives don’t exist anymore for celebrities: they just don’t. I don’t want to be looking over my shoulder all the time, thinking I have to hide, being scared of being found out, putting on a front, having a beard, going down the red carpet with some chick who is posing as my girlfriend. That’s not cool, that’s not being a rock star. I can’t do that.

Rob Zombie ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t no fà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’cking Adam Lambert. And thank God for that! What a sourpuss!

Quotes like the one from Rob Zombie really make me think people ARE starting to ride Adam’s coattails When he first said that wrt Clay, I thought it wasn’t quite fair, but now, it seems like the cool thing to do is make headlines by making a disparaging comment about Adam.

Slightly tangential, but can Idol fans– whichever one their a fan of– please stay out of the Defamer/ Gawker/ D-Listed/ Idolator/ Deadspin type blog comment sections when an article is posted about their Idol? Because the run-of-the-mill commenters at those sites are UNIFORMLY HILARIOUS, regardless of whatever kind of blog entry they are commenting upon.

Seriously, every single commenter on those threads should be a professional comedy writer. In fact, the next time there’s a writers’ strike, just track all of those peeps through their IP addresses, hunt them down and round them up, and bring them to LA to fill in as scabs, so we can still keep decent TV shows on the air and not the third iteration of “When Celebrities’ Animals Attack” or similar reality programming garbage….

But, anyway, whenever there’s a blog post about about an Idol, almost like clockwork, some avenging-poster or posters from a fanboard invade and disrupt the flow of snark. And that just kills the comedy buzz I have going from reading all the hilarity goodness….

Quotes like the one from Rob Zombie really make me think people ARE starting to ride Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s coattails When he first said that wrt Clay, I thought it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t quite fair, but now, it seems like the cool thing to do is make headlines by making a disparaging comment about Adam.

Yeah, Mary102, why in the world would Zombie even comment about Adam? What a jerk! Who cares what that angry soul thinks anyway? I don’t but just hate to see anything bad in print about Adam. And totally unprovoked too!

Rob Zombie ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t no fà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’cking Adam Lambert. And thank God for that! What a sourpuss!

HA so true… who does he think he is to tell Adam Lambert he’s no Mick Jagger? Basically he’s saying that the REAL superstars in the world are the ones that got lucky with the record business, not the ones with true talent… He’s really trying too hard to get at Adam for this one. Two thumbs down for you, Rob Zombie.

The NY Times needs to move on already, especially since everytime they write an article it becomes clearer that not only do they have an agenda, but they have no clue about the show or its history.

messed up the /block quote. my B!

Quotes like the one from Rob Zombie really make me think people ARE starting to ride Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s coattails

Yeah right. Zombie and Gene Simmons are right, Adam is no rock god, despite what Kara and Paula say. He has yet to prove himself, and he will never be iconic like Jagger.

I was pleasantly surprised to see Adam this morning in my daily paper (L.A. Times). Nothing goes better with a great cup of coffee than a great read in the paper.
I officially love Ann Powers.

Sunn Were those quotes from the original article? Because I don’t remember reading them.

Adam co-wrote and performed an awesome song for The Zodiac Show called Crawl Thru Fire. It kicks ass! Check it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXvSA6QL7Ac. I’m positive there’s more where that came from.

Sunn Were those quotes from the original article? Because I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t remember reading them.

No. They’re from the outtakes RS published today. Follow the link to get to it.

So Rob Zombie’s points are that Jagger is a terrible singer and Richards sucks on the guitar? :lol_wp:

So Rob Zombieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s points are that Jagger is a terrible singer and Richards sucks on the guitar?

Maybe so although Zombie’s wrong yet once again. Jagger, Richards and Lambert are all fantastic in their individual ways, as I’m sure you would agree. My favorite band has always been the Stones but I have made room for Adam in that list of top performers, because he deserves it. His voice is like budda!

This was also in the new RS interview. lizardino thanks for poting the link!!

On his early attempts at songwriting:
My songs were like campy, sexy electro, like Peaches and Goldfrapp. I can look back now and realize I wasn’t very good at it. I was trying to put in way too many words. I was trying to be way too melodramatic and serious, you know? It’s like what a junior high student does with poetry. But over the course of a couple years, I started really trying to listen to what worked out there in music, like hooks à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  and realized that less is more. The simple idea is better in a song.

On where he wants to go musically:
I want to do something that has theatricality, a nod to the glam rockers that I love, but is also contemporary. It’s not all going to be happy-go-lucky because I think it’s important to explore other emotional parts of yourself as an artist, but there’s a time and place for it.

I was pleased (and surprised) to read this. Most people are so self-aware. And this makes me more optimistic about his album.

The New York Times will soon change its name to the Old York Times. Motto: We laid off all our reporters, so we hope you enjoy reading these re-edited pieces from our archives.

Seriously, I think that’s a major, if not the major, reason for their increasingly crappy entertainment (and other) reporting

Sunn — You and I are on the same page! :lol_wp:

We both linked to the article from Rolling Stone, which has extra information from Adam’s interview. Click the links to get there — and make sure to read all 3 pages of information. There is some really good stuff there to read and comment upon.

TKat — I have always thought of Adam as really savvy about the music and entertainment business. He knows what he has to do and is prepared for it. I think that most past contestants have NO idea what they are getting into when they audition for AI. While some people have criticized Adam for being “too professional and experienced” for Idol, I think that the experience he has will serve him well and keep him from making some of the mistakes of his predecessors.

The more I read about Kris, the more I am assured that he will be great as well. And of course both of Allison’s big brothers will look out for her!

So two comedy pieces in MJ’s news total — Taylor with a Cheesehead and Rob Zombie. HA! At least Cheesehead hats make me laugh!

Hey, here is more of the interview with Adam from RS. What he says in this piece about discrimination is really interesting (and funny but sad).

That article IS posted in headlines this morning. You might want to take a quick look first before posting.

Also, I ask posters not to spam the same thing over and over again in different threads. Pick a thread, and post it once. Thank you.

Who is Rob Zombie?

Universal Music Publishing Group Signs Exclusive World-Wide Publishing Agreement With Acclaimed Singer/Songwriter, American Idol Veteran, and Atlantic Recording Artist Jason Castro
http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/06-10-2009/0005041612&EDATE=

MJ — Whoops! The link for the RS article was right under the cut and I honestly missed it. Sorry.

Rob Zombie? Really?

Nice blogpost for Kradam fans. Here’s my favorate part, the last paragraph:

Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve had each otherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s backs. Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve learned from each other, and theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve advocated for each other. With and for each other they are respectful and generous. Open. Trusting. And loving.
Adam Lambert could not be happier for his friend, Kris Allen, American Idol 2009. And Kris Allen admires and celebrates the extraordinary gifts of his larger-than-life friend, Adam Lambert.

Here’s the link to the whole piece:

http://themoderatevoice.com/34887/lamberts-ecstasy-and-kristianity/

ET promo for June 10th. a big segment on Adam Lambert tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvBimH-5rI4

A cute clip of Kris being interviewed on Sirius, and the jocks are trying to get him to “swagger” more. I love how he laughs, but won’t take the bait!

http://www.rickey.org/?p=17636

Actually if you really want to tweak Rob Zombie (whom I love for the record) ya tell him he ain’t no John Carpenter. Or Tobe Hooper. Cause he ain’t. Who would want Adam to be Mick Jagger? One Mick is enough.

A random tangential tidbit about Adam – EVERYbody is riding his coattails!

http://www.bravotv.com/blogs/the-dish/supermodel-judge-captures-adam-lambert

‘Supermodel’ Judge Captures Adam Lambert
Make Me a Supermodel finale guest judge Matthew Rolston shoots Adam Lambert’s controversial new Rolling Stone cover.
1 of 1 pagesThe Dish

I kind of just love when I find out things like this: So you know Adam Lambert’s new Rolling Stone cover? If you don’t, you’re living under a rock. I’m just sayin’. Anyway, when seeing who shot the photo (Um, snake and butterfly near his crotch?! Brilliant.), I recognized the name: Matthew Rolston. He was our illustrious guest judge for the Season 2 finale of Make Me A Supermodel. And even though Top Chef Masters premieres tonight, and I seriously might faint with excitement, I can’t help but think back to last week’s Supermodel finale. “

More about Supermodel at the link

The increase in block voting is of course because people are figuring out ways to vote more and more often. As I have noted there are now ways for people outside of the US to vote though I suppose that is a smallish number overall unless they are all block voting too. A “friend” of mine, ehem cast about 400 votes for one David Cook in Season 7.

If you move to online voting, for example, I wonder if that is easy to manipulate, or easier to spot or block “block voting” but even more importantly does Idol care? 100 million votes sounds more impressive than 10 million.

Adam’s gonna have to ugly-up quite a bit if he wants to be Mick.

TKat à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  I have always thought of Adam as really savvy about the music and entertainment business. He knows what he has to do and is prepared for it. I think that most past contestants have NO idea what they are getting into when they audition for AI. While some people have criticized Adam for being à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“too professional and experiencedà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for Idol, I think that the experience he has will serve him well and keep him from making some of the mistakes of his predecessors.

The more I read about Kris, the more I am assured that he will be great as well. And of course both of Allisonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s big brothers will look out for her!

I’ve heard some idol fans say they want to go back to the “find people with no previous experience” approach to finding new contestants, but I completely agree that one of the best things to happen during the evolution of Idol has been to find more and more savvy, smart, professional musicians. Above all else, I want talent, I want people who are good singers, performers, etc. I don’t have time to wade through wannabes who don’t have much ability to begin with (and there are plenty of those who crack the top 10 every year).

I also love those quotes from Adam because they really suggest someone who has been through the ropes, stumbled, fallen, found his way, still needs some guidance and collaborative help, but understands what works and what doesn’t. Also, I completely agree with his “less is more” comment – very true of music – some of the best songs (and certainly some of the most successful) are surprisingly simple.

I also hope he continues to stay close to Allison – I think she will need his help more with all this new found attention!

Rob Zombie is only saying what the harder rock and alternative types say about Adam and say about Idol and will continue to say. This is why few if any Idols will get radio play on rock and alternative format radio play though I am not sure it’s that big a share of the market anymore.

The rock crowd believes that you hone your chops in the garage, literally or figuratively, with a band, probably several bands, usually starting as a teenager, even Freddie Mercury started up his first band when he was 13, and then perfecting your craft on bar circuit, ducking beer bottles, and then you make records, and then you are ROCKSTAR.

I think the objection is to calling Adam a rockstar as many Adam fans and some of the media are.

You can say he is a talented singer and entertainer and even Rob Zombie and Gene Simmons would not disagree. Rockstars are picky about who qualifies for the title.

I’m glad Susan Boyle gets to go on tour. Poor girl. Hope she enjoys this wonderful opportunity.

I think Adam, Allison and Kris seem to be clear on a general direction of their music. For some reason, all 3 seem more confident at this point about their future. I see success for all 3. (and success to me is making a living doing what you love)

Rob Zombie made me laugh. Adam can sing better than Mick, but I see what he’s saying. But if had paid any attention to Idol, and all the press that Adam got after every single performance, then he’d see that Adam is famous for being Adam. Just like Mick is Mick and no one can be him. Adam grabbed headlines weekly for his talent and performances. He became a sensation because he “did his own thing”. So, I understand what Zombie was saying and know that Idol is looked down on because of this. But he doesn’t have a clue as to why Adam got the press and even the RS cover.

Allison’s press release is so awesome. They were going to sign her no matter what. They love that she is edgy, spunky (big personality Simon) and a power voice. She stood out from the beginning and that’s why they are so stoked to have her.

At least the NYT isn’t limiting the voting block to Kris anymore.

Remember Danny Noriega?

http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/06/10/remember-idols-danny-noriega-check-out-his-music-video/

While American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s recent MVPs Kris Allen, Adam Lambert and Allison Iraheta all announced record deals this week, season 7à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Danny Noriega is making a move of his own by posting a music video on YouTube for a song is called à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“24/7à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ³ à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  as in, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m on the radio 24/7,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m on your TV 24/7,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m on your Internet 24/7à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ³ and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m at the disco 24/7.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Yes, those are lyrics to his song, in which he also declares, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care what they say about me / I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care what they think / Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m no American Idol.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Danny missed Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s top 12 on season 7 of the show, but later sailed away with Rosie Oà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢Donnell on her R Family Vacations cruise.

In the song, which opens with Danny saying, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“This is going to be TMTHà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  (too much to handle), Danny boasts about being at other VIP spots, including Studio 54, asks à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to buy my drinks?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  (the answer is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“you bà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ -!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ) and declares his love for haters and the paparazzi.

But the best lyrics come later during his rap when he says, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Let me see you get in the top 10 / I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even know how you got in / FYI, for your info / you make me LMAO.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Now, what would Kara DioGuardi have to say about that?

Video is at link

If Cook and Daughtry who at least write most of their own music don’t get accepted by the rock community, Lambert never will. I mean Kara is working on his album or maybe that’s Allison’s album. That won’t be very rock either.

My songs were like campy, sexy electro, like Peaches and Goldfrapp.

I don’t think I will like his songs if he isn’t going to do them like Peaches or Goldfrapp. The only Goldfrapp songs I like are the more folkish one like Clowns rather than their more usual electropop stuff (which isn’t very good IMO). I can totally see Adam singing Peaches type songs, which is a problem because I can also see that I’ll get a headache just listening to those songs. I’d be much happier if he had said electronica of the likes of Daft Punk, The Chemical Brothers, or Air, or more dance and glamrock like The Scissors Sisters. As it is, we’ll just have to wait and see what kind of music actually makes, but I am preparing myself to hate his music.

Nice blogpost for Kradam fans. Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s my favorate part, the last paragraph:

I wonder if we can break a record here for how many times that Kradam essay from An Unapproved Road is going to be posted here at mjsbigblog? Seriously, at this point, it’s totally not news.

In order to keep the news in the headlines thread fresh, could we please make an effort to keep the links, CURRENT and UNIQUE.

Thanks guys.

@colette Thanks for the clip of Kris..loved it. love him. Going to have to start heading over to Rickey’s more.

Now now, Mick was pretty cute and sexy in the heyday of the Stones, in the 1960s, [many still find him sexy?] as was Keith Richards actually. I can see why the girls might have preferred the bad boy Stones over the good boy Beatles.

Personally I’ve always like Keif better than Mick and I like him still, craggy and all, but I have a thing for guitarists as opposed to lead singers. And I’ve always seen Keif as the creative drive behind the band. Gotta love a guy who brings grannie on tour.

Rock and roll takes its toll. Bwah.

colette Jun 10th, 2009 at 11:52 am

A cute clip of Kris being interviewed on Sirius, and the jocks are trying to get him to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“swaggerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  more. I love how he laughs, but wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t take the bait!

http://www.rickey.org/?p=17636

Awww, thanks for posting this! He’s so adorable!

@colette Thanks for the clip of Kris..loved it. love him. Going to have to start heading over to Rickeyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s more.

Hm. That clip was sent out by someone at sirius and was actually in my queue for today, but since Rickey posted it, and y’all are heading over there, maybe I don’t have to bother. .

Aww MJ…so sorry didn’t mean it the way it sounded! I like it here alot!

Yes, the NY Times is a little late with this story but their article makes a number of valid points, including this one:

A belief by viewers that their participation is meaningless if they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t cast votes by the hundreds or thousands could limit their interest in the show.

I think the claims by people that they cast 10,000 or 12,000 votes at a crack have permeated the consciousness of the public at large and the perception is already out there among the casual voters that their votes don’t count. I think this sentiment will only succeed in driving viewship down even further and maybe that will finally prompt some much needed voting changes.

No one’s asking for a recount or anything like that, and the best three all got their contracts and will make albums this year, but the voting rules need to be fixed. It may not happen next year, but I believe it will happen eventually.

LOL, MJ. Like people wouldn’t watch it here, too!

Thanks to the poster for the info on Jason. Kirsten or MJ (or anyone else that knows) ‘splain what that press release means, please?

Aww MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦so sorry didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean it the way it sounded! I like it here alot!

*sniff* *trembling lip* OK

I’ll put it up now. I was sitting on it, because I thought it was a little short and light on info. But since ya’ll seem to like, I’ll post it.

didn’t mean to pre-empt you, MJ! just wanted to share! and lotsa people always come to you before rickey (me included)…..

Just how big those block-voting efforts can get was demonstrated by Erika McMahan of Conway, Ark., who with two of her friends sent in 11,700 votes by text message on the final night of this yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idol.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

This is precisely the problem with Idol – and I say this as a fair, logical and practical person, not as a fan of the “guy who didn’t win”. Nearly 12000 votes from three people, seriously?! From the very first time I watched the show (auditions, season 1) I was of the opinion that allowing unlimited votes is a recipe for chaos and a huge amount of inaccuracy and unfairness (is that even a word? It’s still early and I’m really tired!). I say, limit the number of votes per phone number to less than 10!

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve heard some idol fans say they want to go back to the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“find people with no previous experienceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  approach to finding new contestants, but I completely agree that one of the best things to happen during the evolution of Idol has been to find more and more savvy, smart, professional musicians.

I agree, I want to see people on AI who have the potential to be Idols but need exposure. I always thought that Adam having been in the chorus of Wicked and an understudy, made it a bit like an old 1930′s Hollywood Movie. Even though Adam is clearly more savy then the vast majority of contestants, I do not believe he is close to the most experience contestant ever on the show.

The idea that AI ever is a platform for taking a raw, untrained talent and making them a star, is for the most part a myth. Fantasia is the only winner who didn’t have much experience prior to being on Idol. This year, of the Top 5, Danny was the one who had no professional experience and no formal vocal training. I think that I’ll stick with the contestants with formal vocal training and some professional experience.

Here’s my take on a few of the winners and #2′s:

Kelly Clarkson had years of classical vocal training, had recorded a demo and was seriously pursing her musical career before she auditioned for Idol.

Justin was one of the most experienced contestants on AI — and he was on the first season. His musical career started at 4 when he was accepted by the Atlanta Boy Choir, one of the worldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s finest boy choirs. He also has loads of high school and college theater credits, studied vocal performance and theater studies at the University of the Arts (Philadelphia) and the School for Film and Television (NY). He worked briefly on Broadway and was recruited by Broadway scouts to join the cast of The Lion King in their master classes before successfully auditioning for American Idol in April 2002. Shortly after being chosen for American Idol, he was offered a role in the Broadway production of The Lion King and he also had a contract offer from an independent record label.

Ruben majored in voice studies at Alabama A&M, sang with a jazz and R&B band and had recorded several demos.

Carrie performed in NSU’s Country show for two summers and was in numerous beauty pageants before Idol.

Taylor had an extensive professional career and recorded two albums before he auditioned.

Jordan participated in and won a number of talent competitions as Sprite Rising Star, Gospel Music Association GMA Academy, The Proof Is In The Pudding Contest, NBC/PAX America’s Most Talented Kids, Colgate Country Showdown and the 2007 Drug Free AZ Superstar Search. She also won the Torrid search for the “Next Plus Size Model.” She was flown to California, where she was used in a number of Torrid ads and promotional pieces. A full-page ad for Torrid featuring Sparks ran in the December 2006 issue of Seventeen magazine

David Cook and Kris had recorded independent albums before AI. Clay Aiken had recorded 3 demo albums. And David Archuleta had released two singles, was the Junior Vocal Champion on Star Search 2, and had performed on several national TV shows before AI.

I for one will never watch AI again. Actually the only reason I watched this season was because of Adam. Anyway, if AI would have only allowed ONE vote per person Adam would have won. ‘Vote number one’ had Adam way ahead and predicted him the winner. Here again, ‘Vote number one’ only allows one vote per person! Anyway, Adam will do fine w/o the ‘title’, he’s #7 on google today! BTY, Young Hollywood Awards just posted Adam’s acceptance speech from Sunday, it’s really good! Check it out on their website.

Collette – I hear you

last year I started “watching” Idol – I don’t live in the US, so I can only search the you tube a day later. I found Rickey last year and loved it, until I found this blog. Now this is practically the only place I go for news. It’s GREAT. Well I do love Idolatry too

I agree that the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Rock Starà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  moniker being bandied about for Adam is certainly premature. I bet Adam would be the first to agree. He always looked uncomfortable whenever Kara or Paula referred to him as such.

However, to state emphatically that he will never be a Rock Star or never make it big as a rock artist is premature as well. Granted, no AI contestant has been welcomed into the rock genre at this point, but none of us know where Adam will end up. I suppose if he sings a bit w/ Queen, that may help smooth the transition into the rock arena.

(Personally, I couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care less in which genre he ends up, as long as he puts out quality records I want to hear.)

didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean to pre-empt you, MJ!

No problem linking to Rickey if he’s got something first. I was just playin’ with Taran33 .

Catch Adam’s promo for Friday night’s 20/20 on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVuMUYF63sQ

The only way to make Idol a relevant show with younger people who will actually buy an Idol’s cd is to make voting fair and easy. It is true that the perception is that if you can’t sit and powervote, then your votes don’t count. Also, it just clogs the lines. Fans of both Kris and Adam will tell you they know of countless people who attempted to vote the first 3 hours of voting on the East Coast and couldn’t get a single vote in. Most people can’t stay up to midnight on a work/school night to get s silly vote in. So, Idol didn’t count the actual number of fans.

Idol needs to make it simple. Include online voting. Make it fun for the average viewer.

In some of the RS quotes released today that weren’t included in the article, Adam acknowledges that he knows full well that not all Idols go on to huge success. He lives in Hollywood so I’m sure he’s aware of the 15 minutes of fame. I don’t think he’s claiming he’s a rock god. In fact, what he says is that he wants a good song, with a great melody. He says it has to have a great hook, and add in some futuristic stuff. All of that is what is popular in the Pop World today.

I’m an Adam fan, but I still don’t think he would have won with one vote each. All fans power text, so to think only Kris fans did it is wrong IMO. I don’t think that relying on web site votes doesn’t work either because the casual fans don’t usually participate in those. At first I was angry and heartbroken thAt Adam didn’t win, now I’m not. I think if Adam had won, I don’t think Adam would have been allowed to be as open as he has been and I think the ability has been important for him. I’m happy for both Kris and Adam (Allison too) and can’t wait for what they’ll do next!

Jagger is proof that you can create an amazing aura of sexiness that fills large open-air arenas while being kind of an ugly little creature. Sort of the great god Pan or something. Who’s really interested in those goat legs? and yet …

I think the claims by people that they cast 10,000 or 12,000 votes at a crack have permeated the consciousness of the public at large and the perception is already out there among the casual voters that their votes donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t count.

I’m really glad that the Top 2 AI8 finalists both said they didn’t care about winning — just performing the best that they could. And I have no doubt that it’s best that Kris won. (And I am an OTT Adam fan.) But having the Top 2 finishers saying it doesn’t matter who won and having increased levels of Voter Apathy may present a challenge for AI.

The last legit consumer polls on AI voting were done in May-June 2008, and they found that over 50% of AI viewers believed that there was no reason to vote, that their votes didn’t matter. I haven’t seen anything for a respected consumer research firm yet this year but my bet is that AI Voter Apathy has increased significantly.

Not only are there general press reports about AI voting issues, but there was the BGT voting question about Susan Boyle, too.

Voter participation in AI is part of it’s formula for success. I doubt that AI will change the voting rules next year, but I bet that they go out of their way to emphasize that they can and will eliminate power text votes.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/entertainment/2009/06/david-archuleta-kind-of-assumed-adam-lamberts-gay.html?csp=34

Most people probably werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t surprised by American Idol winner Adam Lambertà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s coming-out cover for Rolling Stone earlier this week. One of the least surprised of those was Idol finalist David Archuleta.

USA TODAYà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Arienne Thompson caught up with him last night in D.C. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I just kind of assumed it. I think everyone else did, too,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  he admitted. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think it was a big surprise. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure he was happy with who he was.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

more at link
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http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2009-06-10-foster_N.htm
(theres some classic david stuff here… ROFL Im cracking up!)

Fox, Union shine a light on foster-care issue

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Archuleta performed Imagine, a song that won him rave reviews during his time on Idol. But even after singing it plenty of times before, the bashful 18-year-old was still a little nervous à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  this time he played the piano and sang.

“I have never accompanied myself on Imagine,” he admitted. But the important thing is to “get the spirit of the song across.”

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(ROFL wtf david im dying)

Sexiness was lost on Archuleta, however. He’s a prime target for the teen love craze in Hollywood, but he doesn’t seem fazed by romance at all. He’s going on tour with Disney star Demi Lovato this summer, but don’t expect any sparks to fly just yet. “I’ve only talked to her twice.”

Asked if he has his eye on any other celebrities, he deadpans, “No” and explains that he isn’t into the Miley Cyruses of the world for a very good reason.

“If they are younger than me, then it would technically be illegal,” he said with a laugh. “I wouldn’t mind going on a fun date.”

I agree that it was a good thing that Adam didn’t win Idol because that would have made it very difficult for him to do the post-Idol PR pivot he’s in the midst of. “I did it to get exposure — not to win.” has a lot more credibility than “I won but it didn’t really matter.”

I think if Adam had won, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam would have been allowed to be as open as he has been and I think the ability has been important for him. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m happy for both Kris and Adam (Allison too) and canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wait for what theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll do next!

In the Rolling Stone article Adam states that it was his decision how to handle the discussion about his sexuality, and that AI PR said that they would support him whatever he chose to do. And in recent interviews he also said it was his choice to wait for the RS interview to come out. So, unless Adam is lying, TPTB didn’t stop him from talking about it.

They had every reason to think that Adam had a chance to win in March when those photos hit the Web.

If he won, they might not have chosen RS to get the big story, they might have gone with People. And that would have been a different article, but RS still would have cover the story.

Finally, there has been information about Adam and drug use online since before American Idol. I think that win or loss, Adam would have adressed it now so that it didn’t become a big rumor.

Wow, in that ET promo link posted above (thanks, Sunn) Adam’s hair looks much shorter on the sides. I know people were commenting about it during the YH red carpet videos, but I wasn’t sure – just thought it was the way he had combed his hair. Speaking of the YH Awards, did someone say that Kris had attended too. How do we know? Any photographic evidence?

So much discussion on the boards yesterday about the “sticking it” comment, which didn’t really faze me. The comment I wish he’d omitted? Sex Clubs. Because the ET promo really zeroes in on it …

Catch Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s promo for Friday nightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 20/20 on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVuMUYF63sQ

It’s the clip that they recorded at the YH Awards. Hope it’s a good interview and that they at least spend 1 minute on music!

Adam made the #1 story on MSNBC’s Countdown (Keith Oberman) but there was almost nothing about music in the whole piece. Idol has been on Countdown before, but as far as I can tell this is the first time anything Idol was the #1 story on Countdown.

ahhh cant edit it.. but usatoday changed the headline on the last article i posted lol it now reads: “Archuleta, Union hit D.C. to adopt foster-care issue” lol

and lol at this…. haha sure david would love this

http://www.latina.com/blogs/vivo-por-tivo/7-sexiest-latin-reality-tv-stars

David Archuleta: Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s entirely possible that the word à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“cutieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  was invented for former American Idol finalist, David Archuleta, 18. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also fitting that Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s first single (which made it to #2 on the Billboard 200 chart) was called à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Crush,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  because every Latina staffer (and every Latina I know) has a major crush on the 18-year-old Honduran with dimples. David also has an infectious smile, and as we all know, an amazing singing voice, but what really makes him stand out is that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a genuinely nice guy.

Two idol tweets from Perez.

Archie takes you to da club! http://bit.ly/L2C32
about 22 hours ago from web

Adam Lambert will be on ABC’s “20/20″ this Friday for his first TV interview since coming out publicly as a gay man.
about 21 hours ago from web

Ok, I just went back and ready MJ’s plea for “current and unique” posts. I know the Adam lambert thing coming up has already been posted. I just thought it was interesting that perez tweeted about it.

Did you guys know that DA is Mr Twitter Universe?
http://tweeterwall.mallplace.com/tw/wall-of-fame

Regarding the power voting, I’m completely ok with this year’s results, believe Kris definitely won fair and square (AT&T aside), but I do wish the system would change. I agree that the online voting makes sense – not sure why AI hasn’t jumped on that band wagon yet, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they do soon (I predicted they’d do the itunes tie-in a few years before they actually got around to it). Plus, online voting gets them more votes to report for next year’s “record breaking total!”

I think texting sucks, though – especially only being able to do it on AT&T, and since it heavily favors a younger demographic, imo. Younger viewers are more likely to have unlimited texting, whereas someone like me has the “pay per text” (yeah, I’m lame) and can’t afford to send THAT many votes to someone (though I’ll admit I still spent way too much money on voting this year!)

http://www.popeater.com/music/article/david-archuleta-blogs-for-fan-pack/522231

Fans in need of a David Archuleta fix no longer have to wait until the ‘Idol’ star tours with Demi Lovato this summer. Today, Archuleta is releasing a digital “fan pack” on iTunes, containing his video for ‘Touch My Hand,’ as well as two new songs: fan favorite ‘Zero Gravity’ and a cover of Vanessa Carlton’s ‘A Thousand Miles.’ Check out Archuleta’s exclusive video blog for AOL, and listen to both songs from the Fan Pack below.

they post the AOL video blog from him on there

(talks about why he released them, mentions the tour, working on xmas album and then the pop one next year. also the end it LOL, david and his food haha)

This tells you when your idol will be on comcast live chat.Dont know if its been posted.

http://www.comcast.net/tv/eyeonidol/66318/idoltop10chat/

David Cook will be on Larry King Live on Monday. So glad to see him on my tv again!

I for one will never watch AI again. Actually the only reason I watched this season was because of Adam. Anyway, if AI would have only allowed ONE vote per person Adam would have won. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Vote number oneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ had Adam way ahead and predicted him the winner. Here again, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Vote number oneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ only allows one vote per person!

This was pretty far back, but just want to say: I never heard of Vote Number One, so they didn’t count my vote. Also, that vote is meaningless. A lot of people don’t vote unless their vote is going to count. I vote “officially” for AI but I don’t cast votes in online polls, etc., since it doesn’t matter.

Did you guys know that DA is Mr Twitter Universe?
http://tweeterwall.mallplace.com/tw/wall-of-fame

Oh so it’s finally official! Congratulations, David our Mr. Twitter Universe!
Danny Gokey came in 3rd place, btw.

Regarding the ‘voting’.

uh, that person who wrote that article must be NEW to Idol because people have been doing that for years since the early seasons.

David Cook will be on Larry King Live on Monday. So glad to see him on my tv again!

Yay! Me too… it feels like he’s been “off” forever even though I just saw him in VA Beach a couple weeks ago, lol.

Here is the 20/20 interview promo for Adam. It looks cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVuMUYF63sQ&eurl=http:

Get a load of this PIC… Kris owns the same plaid shirt that Archie wore during the Teen Choice Awards. Either that or Kris borrowed it from him. They are after all label mates now. LOL!

Apparently MTV thinks Danny Noriega was the original Adam Lambert…..

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2009/06/10/idol-castoff-danny-noriega-was-the-original-adam-lambert/

Get a load of this PICà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ Kris owns the same plaid shirt that Archie wore during the Teen Choice Awards. Either that or Kris borrowed it from him. They are after all label mates now. LOL!

LOL! Too cute!

BTW – Kris looks HAWT in that jacket – whoa!

Press Release about Daughtry’s Leave This Town:

http://www.pitchengine.com/rcamusicgroup/daughtry-reveals-details-behind-leave-this-town-/14929/

It features vocal harmonies from Vince Gill. :shock_tb:

Apparently MTV thinks Danny Noriega was the original Adam Lambertà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..

Yeah, sure! I see the similarities except for the vocals, personality, wit, style, and sexiness. Did I forget something?

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“If they are younger than me, then it would technically be illegal,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  he said with a laugh. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mind going on a fun date.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

:lol_tb: :lol_tb: I love this kid… some one email this to Miley 21 year old boyfriend …

ROFL celeste… haha miley

here is a vid inteview of david talking about adam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuSkacJDA4A&feature=player_embedded

I dunno if this counts as news, but Jordin’s got an ~official fanclub~ now:
http://sparkstown.com/index.php

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/06/10/david-archuleta-of-american-idol-woos-washington.html

David Archuleta of American Idol Woos Washington

Archuleta capped his two-day stay at a dinner for the conference last night. And while stars Shawn King and Terrance Howard performed, too, it was young Archuleta who earned a State Department standing O in the Benjamin Franklin Diplomatic Reception Room.

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about the christmas album:

He said the album will include traditional songs like “Silent Night” and up to three written just for David.

more at link

frog- I love that news that he is wowing people!

that usnews article and review for david in washington, dc is all kindsa awesome – good find frogcooke :clap_tb:

uh, that person who wrote that article must be NEW to Idol because people have been doing that for years since the early seasons.

LOL. I’ve noticed a lot of articles recently about the Idol voting system from non Idol viewers or reporters who are too lazy or cool to do Idol related research.

the texting option irks me bc im with verizon. but other than that, not sure what producers can change. limit calls per line? but that takes away from their glory of announcing the amount of votes at the beg of each show, heh.

I get the feeling that the meet and greets at the AI tour this year might not include a lot from 1, 2 and 4. If Kris, Adam, and Allison are all going to be busy recording over the summer, I am sure that they won’t have a lot of time or energy to do a lot of the “fluff” stuff that goes along with the tour, i.e. autograph signings, before and after concert meet and greets. Based on last year the Davids, and especially Cook were called away a lot to do “other stuff” when they weren’t actual on stage. Archie also recorded, promoted, and made the video for Crush while on tour. I can see this sort of thing happening again.

I’m sure glad this kind of stuff is done by “twenty” year olds. I can’t even imagine someone like Susan Whatshername having the energy to keep up with the demanding tour schedule for Britian’s Got Talent. Hope she just sings, travels, and goes to bed.

Cookie’s gonna be on my TV again? Excellent!

I want to hear about the next record…

Really not looking forward to Kris’ next interview, though. They’ll be back to talking about Adam all the time again. I guess he isn’t going to have to worry about not “staying grounded” for a while yet….

Tess your freaking me out.I refuse to leave my AI concert without meeting or
getting a autograph from Allison,Adam and Kris.Those are the real stars.I need
there signature for when there famous and on top of the charts.I dont care for
anyone else but Matt just alittle.

Last year Cookie gave me a hug at the AI concert.Archie signed a picture for me.And werent they recording on tour? I hope my top three can be part of the meet and greets.I mean atleast allison???

If Kris, Adam, and Allison are all going to be busy recording over the summer, I am sure that they wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a lot of time or energy to do a lot of the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“fluffà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  stuff that goes along with the tour, i.e. autograph signings, before and after concert meet and greets.

I don’t know what the other idols did, but from following DA, he did an amazing amount of autograph singing and meet and greets, even with his busy schedule. It was amazing.

Yeah, even with busy scheddule the guys still had time for the fans. Cook stopped going out after the shows at some point but it wasn’t just because of him having to fly away… If everything goes well this year I don’t think that will be a big problem.

http://perezhilton.com/2009-06-11-archuleta-does-1000-miles#respond

American Idol alum David Archuleta recorded a studio version of Vanessa Carlton’s 1,000 Miles and just released it on iTunes.

And we love love love it!

Check it out below.

I get the feeling that the meet and greets at the AI tour this year might not include a lot from 1, 2 and 4. If Kris, Adam, and Allison are all going to be busy recording over the summer, I am sure that they wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a lot of time or energy to do a lot of the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“fluffà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  stuff that goes along with the tour,

Archie made himself available for long stretches during the tour–and he was recording constantly. Last year’s idols were also worked harder throughout the season.

Btw, did you all know Archie’s album has passed platinum outside the US? This would include sales in Australial and the UK. It’s doing particularly well in Asia. It has been #2 in the Philippines ever since the Manila concert; Cook’s cd is #5.

Yeah right. Zombie and Gene Simmons are right, Adam is no rock god, despite what Kara and Paula say. He has yet to prove himself, and he will never be iconic like Jagger.

Don’t know how you are reading your crystal ball, but it just doesn’t agree with mine. Only time will tell, unless perhaps some of us are living in the future. :annoyed_tb: I prefer to be more positive on this issue. JMO

Yeah right. Zombie and Gene Simmons are right,

I actually appreciate Rob’s explanation of his perspective, not about Adam specifically, but his dislike for using reality show exposure as a pathway to “making it”. Because I always ask “rock snobs” (like my brother) the same question– “What about people like Bo Bice, Chris Daughtry, David Cook, Michael Johns etc. who have struggled for years “the legitimate way” to get their break and haven’t gotten it and see AI as their last chance, so to speak?”

Well, nobody, before Zombie ever provided me a direct response to that question. But, I get what he was saying, even if I don’t agree. It’s the fatalist point of view. If you do possess the chops to make it in the business, but you haven’t made it “the old-fashioned way”, then in the traditionalists’ view, you weren’t supposed to make it.

So, going the AI route is STILL not an acceptable road to them, even if you do fall into the “have-the-talent-but-haven’t-got-the-break” category. It simply wasn’t meant to happen for you. Interesting….

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(However, I will say that the description of this scenario wouldn’t seem to apply to Adam– if he IS going to do ROCK– because he really HASN’T cut his teeth the “old-fashioned way”, trying to make it in the genre (his theater experience doesn’t count as trying to make it in “rock”). His band experience seems to be quite limited, compared to the others I mentioned. So, he actually WOULD fall under the category of people using Idol as a “shortcut” to become “rock stars”, rather than those who have tried the “long-road” and gotten nowhere.

Tess your freaking me out.I refuse to leave my AI concert without meeting or
getting a autograph from Allison,Adam and Kris.Those are the real stars.I need
there signature for when there famous and on top of the charts.I dont care for
anyone else but Matt just alittle.

Last year Cookie gave me a hug at the AI concert.Archie signed a picture for me.And werent they recording on tour? I hope my top three can be part of the meet and greets.I mean atleast allison???

I am super interested in actually meeting the guys, getting autographs, etc. after the shows. Does anyone know how to do that? Every year I tell myself I’m going to, and every year I get too nervous (which is weird, because I’ve actually met a lot of celebrities in NY by waiting after theater shows (met Cyndi Lauper! Very funny and chatty in person (but short)!)