Idol Headlines for 06/05/09

Rodney Ho succeeded at writing something dramatic so he will get lots of hits. To call it David Archuleta’s concert is ridiculous. He is not the headliner, is not doing a full program, and in fact, is not even advertised for many of the concerts. I am disappointed in Rodney.

Poor Kelly. I wish people would leave her alone already. She’s not fat and she’s not gay. She’s just the same person she’s always been.

Very cool about Diana and Anthony in the Joseph show. Not exactly Broadway, but still sounds like a decent gig. Diana’s done Broadway though, so it’s not like she’s only done regional theatre.

I’m really shocked about the Archuleta/Lovato concert. I thought those Disney kids sold shows out like no one’s business. I do know that Archie’s small-venue solo tour sold out in most cities fairly fast. I realize he’s not ready to headline a major tour yet, but I wish they’d put him with someone that’s not Disney. I am not sure this is a good match. He’s better than that.

That’s great to hear that the Idols Live concert is selling so well! I know it was VERY hard to get good tix in DC (I went online the day they were on sale, and the closest available was like the 3 section from the stage).

Last year I bought mine after Cook won, but this year, I was too nervous about missing the show or getting bad tix. I’m really looking forward to it (especially seeing Adam live!)

Oh, and congrats to Adam for the Young Artist Award! He certainly deserves it!

I’ve got the live feed up in another window of the Walmart Shareholder’s meeting in another window now.

http://walmartstores.com/sites/shareholders/2009/

When the window opens, you will see a twitter page in a small box on the left hand side.

ETA: Kris is coming on the stage now singing NB

ETA2: He’s singing Heartless! Yay!

Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s great to hear that the Idols Live concert is selling so well! I know it was VERY hard to get good tix in DC (I went online the day they were on sale, and the closest available was like the 3 section from the stage).

Last year I bought mine after Cook won, but this year, I was too nervous about missing the show or getting bad tix. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m really looking forward to it (especially seeing Adam live!)

Yeah I bought tickets the day they went on sale both last year and this year. Last year, it was a no-brainer for me as I loved more than half of the Top 10. This year, I wasn’t quite sure as I didn’t love the season as much as Season 7. But now that Kris won, I’m very glad I got the tickets when I did. I’m also looking forward to Allison and Matt. The rest I am not quite as excited about, but hopefully, it will be a good show.

RE: The Young Hollywood Awards:

The show will air on Sunday June 7th.

Here’s a fashion article on the coming awards with an Adam pic:

GET READY FOR THE FASHION ACTION AT THE ANNUAL YOUNG HOLLYWOOD AWARDS THIS SUNDAY

Yay for adam in finery vids next monday.

ETA: Kris is coming on the stage now singing NB

Thanks for the heads-up. I just tuned in at the right time to catch “Heartless” and Kris doing the comedy bit with Ben Stiller and the Walmart CFO. LOL at the “modeling” looks they were shooting at the cameras.

” To call it David Archuletaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s concert is ridiculous. He is not the headliner, is not doing a full program, and in fact, is not even advertised for many of the concerts. ”

Damn right, if you look for David Archuleta on Ticketmaster none of the Demi concerts are coming up. Ugh, who would want to suffer thru Demi. Besides, isn’t JoBros and Miley tour at the same time so parents can only afford so much.

Another previous band Adam was in is discovered by ONTD-AI

Superfag and the Shady Ass Bitches

I kid you not!
Consists of several Zodiac folks and they described themselves thusly:

“We are the new generation of “Parliament Funkadelics,”
the second coming of punk-funk and electro. Devotees
of Rick James, George Clinton, and the Euro Disco experience, SUPERSTAR is supersonic.

We perform as though our lives depended on it.”

Yeah.
In the closet.
Right.

they always go after Kelly for her weight. It’s ridiculous. If this were the 1950′s or 1960′s, she would be considered normal. I mean, Marilyn Monroe was a size 16.

I just hope she cracks a million on this album, or Clive will probably drop her…..

Gwinnet show sold out…that’s the one I’m attending! My 9 y.o. daughter and I are going together, her first concert. She wants us to paint our nails black for the event. I went to the first Idol concert with Justin and Kelly, and only this year have I been excited enough to both vote and buy tickets to the concert. Bet they all sound great live; I suspect TV doesn’t do any of them justice.

Yeah.
In the closet.
Right.

LOL Crystal clear, glittery glass windowed (and well stocked) closet, to be sure…

Naturi Naughton will perform a song from the upcoming à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Fameà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  movie, and their will also be a surprise performance after the ceremony. Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hope ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Adam Lambert with Queenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Brian May à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ hot! We canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get enough of Adam and his glam rock get ups.

This is from the Fashion Article posted above about the Young Hollywood Awards ceremony. Just curious, would AI/19 let Adam perform at a function like this? I’m assuming it’s not his choice and would need approval. I don’t know what’s been allowed in the past with other contestants.

More Adam pictures! Yea!

Superfag and the Shady Ass Bitches

That name I think may have been made up by the ONTD crowed. I can’t find reference to it anywhere else.

From the ONTD:AI link:

Adam Lambert, vocalist
The baby of the bunch recently won rave reviews as Joshua in The Ten
Commandments at the Kodak Theatre in Los Angeles. Past projects have
brought Adam to Europe in à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Hairà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  (with the lovely Miss Scarlett) and to Vegas, pitching a topless version of the musical à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Debbie Does Dallas.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

The Debbie Loves Dallas ( note Loves not Does) show is not knew, you can find a Radar article Adam’s involvement in the show here:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/05/exclusive-idol-adam-lambert-youve-never-seen-him

If this were the 1950à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s or 1960à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s, she would be considered normal. I mean, Marilyn Monroe was a size 16.

Hmm, I’ve hesitated to comment on this because it could be a bit controversial, but but I just have to say, I kinda get why Kelly’s weight is talked about so much. I think part of reason for the talk is because Kelly didn’t use to be this size. Gossip rags talk more about an artist if there’s a big weight fluctuation than with artists who have always been larger, like Jordin. I’m not saying it makes it okay for them to talk about it, cuz it’s a dumb topic regardless, but I’m just saying that’s probably why. Objectively speaking, it’s not like she’s huge now, but it’s just that Kelly used to be a lot smaller. And I know there was a phase where she lost a lot of weight and looked a little emaciated, but I’m not talking about that phase– she had a previous “normal” weight phase that was smaller than she is now. I’m not saying she needs to lose weight, because if she says she’s happy, I’ll take her word for it, and that’s what’s important.

Gwinnet show sold out

Any other word on how ticket sales are going this year?

From NeonLimeLight…

There are several topics in the David Archuleta fan community that often come up: Why is he so freakinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ adorable? How can I meet Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦because heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s so freakinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ adorable! Is he singleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦cus heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just so freakinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ adorable! :laugh_tb:

Be sure to purchase the set when ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s released and look out for David on the Demi Lovato Summer tour.

Yay! Its Adam!
I hope he sings and I can’t wait to see what he wears.

Poor Kelly. Geez.

Win a Kellie Pickler concert…um…sounds like an oxymoron.

Btw, its Donut Day!

Yea!! Adam gets his first award, and its for Young Artist. Congrats!! I would love for him to perform, but since he’s getting an award I can let that slide if he doesn’t.

I’m assuming they don’t televise this show?? Does anyone know for sure?

Just curious, would AI/19 let Adam perform at a function like this? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m assuming ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not his choice and would need approval.

Why wouldn’t Adam be allowed to perform if he’s receiving an award from them?

Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a fashion article on the coming awards with an Adam pic:

This is by far my FAVORITE look for Adam!!

Heck even if he doesn’t perform, I’ll just be thrilled to see some new pictures of Adam that weren’t taken by stalkerazzi’s.

Is Adam the first American Idol contestant to win a Young Hollywood Award?

I just hope she cracks a million on this album, or Clive will probably drop herà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..

She already has, worldwide.

Damn right, if you look for David Archuleta on Ticketmaster none of the Demi concerts are coming up.

I know. To find tix to the concert closest to me, I had to go through some complicated loop of searching on Ticketmaster (no luck) and eventually going to David’s official site and clicking on the Ticketmaster link. Took me to the concert, which is listed under Demi but not David. Not sure how fans would know he’s even appearing in the town.

I hope this isn’t a repeat – Gene Simmons from KISS was interviewed on the radio yesterday and had a couple nice things to say about Adam

Link

Funny – I included a link to the mp3, but I don’t see it…

From the Daily Herald…

Singing sensation David Archuleta seemed to be a bit preoccupied during an interview session Wednesday afternoon in a spacious suite overlooking Rio Tinto Stadium.

Archuleta is currently working on two new albums — one featuring pop songs and the second a Christmas collection. The latter is expected to be available in time for this year’s holiday season, while the pop album will likely drop in 2010.

more at the link, including a videotaped interview

Just curious, would AI/19 let Adam perform at a function like this? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m assuming ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not his choice and would need approval.

Adam and the rest of the top 10 need to get permission from 19E if they want to perform somewhere. If 19E doesn’t agree, Adam can’t perform.

Thanks for the heads-up. I just tuned in at the right time to catch à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Heartlessà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and Kris doing the comedy bit with Ben Stiller and the Walmart CFO. LOL at the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“modelingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  looks they were shooting at the cameras.

Your welcome. I tuned in just in time to see the interview with Kris’ brother just before Kris took the stage.

Bet they all sound great live; I suspect TV doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do any of them justice.

That’s been my experience. Last season was the first Idols tour I attended and it was really good I thought. I was blown away by the richness of their live voices. Indeed TV definiely does not do them justice. I’ve also seen Phil Stacey perform live and his voice is just magnificent, more than you would guess from just hearing him on TV.

I don’t necessarily think Rodney Ho did anything misleading. David is opening for Demi so it’s technically their show. Rodney runs an AI blog. Why would he focus on Demi when he’s talking TO AI fans, who I’m pretty sure are capable of realizing Demi is the headliner? Ticket sales are soft. Demi doesn’t seem to be a draw in GA and David’s name hasn’t helped so far. It’s not a slam, just a fact. Hopefully the reduced ticket price helps out because the Demi/David bill is definitely a good, clean family fun type show, and those are rare these days.

Good for Diana and Anthony. I think they will be amazing in “Joseph.” Diana is supposedly going to an “Off Broadway” show in New York City shortly after her brief stint as the narrator in Joseph. It will be interesting to see what she’s doing next. Hopefully it’s something quirky and funny. She does comedy VERY well.

Good for Diana and Anthony. I think they will be amazing in à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Joseph.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Diana is supposedly going to an à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Off Broadwayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  show in New York City shortly after her brief stint as the narrator in Joseph. It will be interesting to see what sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s doing next. Hopefully ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s something quirky and funny. She does comedy VERY well.

Yeah I remembering hearing fabulous things about her from her run on Broadway in Hairspray. I wish I could’ve seen it. I believe she’s still writing songs for her country album. She has a 4-song country EP out right now.

Superfag and the Shady Ass Bitches

Sunn: That name I think may have been made up by the ONTD crowed. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find reference to it anywhere else.

Sunn thanks for correnting this earlier comment. This is not a real band, and the reason they have 5 separate photos is because they put togehter a cheesey composite.

There is s new Adam studio recording (real) from last summer that he did for the Ice Skater Nick LaRoche. Here’s a link to the YouTube video of Nick skating to Adam’s “I Just Love You”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1QiitmOKY4

unique28v
Jun 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m assuming they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t televise this show?? Does anyone know for sure?

The show usually airs on AMC, I’m not sure about this year, check your local schedule for live or next-day airing.

This was at the top of People.com’s homepage. Interesting how they refer to Drake as nothing more than Adam’s “pal” and “best friend”.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20283448,00.html

SuzieQ
Jun 5th, 2009 at 11:43 am
This was at the top of People.comà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s homepage. Interesting how they refer to Drake as nothing more than Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“palà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“best friendà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20283448,00.html

I think it’s code. The people’s no 1 mag can’t go around offending homophobes can they!!!

(sarcasm by the way)

They always go after Kelly for her weight. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ridiculous. If this were the 1950à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s or 1960à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s, she would be considered normal. I mean, Marilyn Monroe was a size 16.

I agree that they always seem to go after Kelly’s weight.

But, Marilyn Monroe was never a size 16. Since clothing sizes have changed so much since the 1950′s – 60′s, they aren’t comparable. She wore size 10 to 12 in the 60′s — but her clothes were usually altered because she did not fit off-the-rack sizes. She only weighed 118 lbs. Here are her measurements:

Height: 5’5″
Bust: 37″
Waist: 23″-24″
Hips: 35″

Like all celebrities there is a lot of online info that is not correct, including that she wore a size 16. That is because in the 1960′s a 37″ bustline = size 16 I think.

Yea!! Adam gets his first award, and its for Young Artist. Congrats!! I would love for him to perform, but since heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s getting an award I can let that slide if he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t.

He is not on the schedule to perform but there is a surprise performance at the end. I sure hope that the surprise is Adam — and doing something other than Mad World or the Disaster Song.

By the way, he will be awarded “Artist of the Year” at the Young Hollywood Awards.

This was at the top of People.comà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s homepage. Interesting how they refer to Drake as nothing more than Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“palà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“best friendà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Actually, until either Adam or Drake confirm a romantic relationship they don’t really have a choice but to call him just that. At least they should. Good journalism is supposed to be based on fact, and not “assumptions” or “probable evidence”.

Thats my opinion on it at least.

Actually, until either Adam or Drake confirm a romantic relationship they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really have a choice but to call him just. At least they should. Good journalism is supposed to be based on fact, and not à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“assumptionsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  or à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“probable evidenceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

How bizarre – People magazine has better, more ethical journalists than a supposedly reputable “news” outlet like MSNBC!

That People Magazine article is interesting. I too wouldn’t assume that Adam and Drake are in a serious relationship. Seems as if they’ve been friends for years (possibly “with benefits”). Drake doesn’t even live in Los Angeles and Adam has been crazy busy with AI and about to go out on the road. I just don’t see how they could be having a serious relationship.

I think people like Perez Hilton and all the other tabloids are reading WAAAAY too much into Drake’s presence in Adam’s life.

How bizarre – People magazine has better, more ethical journalists than a supposedly reputable à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“newsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  outlet like MSNBC!

lol. In this case yes. Although anything under the gossip label I take with a grain of salt.

SuzieQ
Jun 5th, 2009 at 11:43 am
This was at the top of People.comà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s homepage. Interesting how they refer to Drake as nothing more than Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“palà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“best friendà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20283448,00.html

I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s code. The peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no 1 mag canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t go around offending homophobes can they!!!

(sarcasm by the way)

Another possibility suggests itself to me. Since Adam has not confirmed anything more than a friendship with Drake perhaps People is showing Adam some respect. Why should they assume that there is more going on even though there were pictures taken that would seem there is? Until and unless Adam presents Drake or someone else as a romantic partner, I don’t think any magazine should make that assumption. They do that all the time with a man and a woman that show up somewhere together and various celebrities are constantly complaining about it!

This was at the top of People.comà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s homepage. Interesting how they refer to Drake as nothing more than Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“palà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“best friendà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Actually, until either Adam or Drake confirm a romantic relationship they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really have a choice but to call him just. At least they should. Good journalism is supposed to be based on fact, and not à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“assumptionsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  or à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“probable evidenceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Thats my opinion on it at least.

Exactly…and until it is ‘official’ (ie. Adam has made a specific statement about their status) it should remain this way. People no doubt wants to maintain a good relationship with Adam since he will sell a lot of magazines for them in the future so I’m glad to see they’re not making assumptions without a statement.

This is an old article (27th/5) but I haven’t seen it posted. Also I just found it. so apologies if this is a repeat post for some of you.

When The Nation wrights an article about you then you are most defenitly a star in my book. Adam Lambert has officially become part of the cultural zeitgeist.

Return of the Fabulous

Here’s a excerpt:

The phenomenon of Adam Lambert makes sense on the shoulders of that history. He transformed the fairly banal “singing competition” of American Idol into a performance of self-possession and an occasion for all kinds of living-room or Internet chatter about what’s masculine, what’s “theatrical” (the show’s code for too Broadway, too queer) and why artifice is sometimes the surest route to authenticity. It’s been a long time coming, but “fabulous” has supercharged its way back into the language of pop culture. And another generation of kids, some of them anyway, are eyes wide in wonder. “I’m only 11 so I don’t know what to make of it,” a blog-poster wrote after Lambert descended like another visitor from space, part glam rocker, part Goth, singing Michael Jackson’s “Black or White” early in the competition: “I ain’t scared of no brother/I ain’t scared of no sheets/I ain’t scared of nobodaayya!/When the goin’ gets mean.”

Edited for clarification.

Another possibility suggests itself to me. Since Adam has not confirmed anything more than a friendship with Drake perhaps People is showing Adam some respect. Why should they assume that there is more going on even though there were pictures taken that would seem there is? Until and unless Adam presents Drake or someone else as a romantic partner, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think any magazine should make that assumption. They do that all the time with a man and a woman that show up somewhere together and various celebrities are constantly complaining about it!

THIS. People are just crazily jumping to conclusions about everything in regards to Adam. Adam hasn’t said ZILCH in public and is probably having a blast messing with the paparrazzi and publics minds with this.

I agree with everyone…I didn’t say it wasn’t a good thing, but that it was interesting considering how every other media outlet has jumped on the “they’re a couple” bandwagon.
Out of all the magazines out there, it is true that People seems to have the most journalistic integrity (relatively speaking!).

They also seem to love themselves some Adam as they’ve had frequent stories on him and this story is currently at the top of their news (maybe a slow news day?)

unique28v: you are correct. In the past many newspapers have lost lawsuits for calling people homosexual who had not publically declared themselves. Even when they have claims from a “jilted past lover”.

And photos of someone kissing men, holding hands or being in a drag show aren’t enough to make any statement except “might be gay” or “snuggline with his BF in a dark corner” etc.

The potential liability of website operators is still unsettled in the courts. It will be interesting what happens with the Twitter liable suits. The Tommy Lasorda suit does seem like it has much merit, but there are several other liable suits by celebrities regarding twitter posers.

And I think that something like the fake band on ONTD-AI that appears to be mischief rather than a parody are questionable.

Of course I can’t imagine Adam suing anyone. I imagine he would just laugh and say “Whatever”.

Pretty funny!

What might Adam’s cover of Rolling Stone look like?

LK09

Rodney Ho succeeded at writing something dramatic so he will get lots of hits. To call it David Archuletaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s concert is ridiculous. He is not the headliner, is not doing a full program, and in fact, is not even advertised for many of the concerts. I am disappointed in Rodney.

I totally agree. It was similar to a piece that I recall Rodney writing over Christmas about how David’s Jingle Ball (or whatever it’s called in Atlanta) was not selling well, even though there were far more established artists who were part of that bill. I understand Rodney is writing an Idol blog and wants to find an “Idol” angle by calling it an “Archuleta Concert”. However, sometimes there is no Idol angle and in those cases it makes sense to write about something else. Imagine if the Demi concert was sold out. How ridiculous would it be if someone wrote that the sell out proves Archuleta’s popularity (as opposed to that of the headliner?) Many of the McFly concerts were sold out in the UK. I think if anyone wrote an article saying that this proved Archuleta’s popularity in the UK, they would be laughed out of the room.

Pretty funny!

What might Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cover of Rolling Stone look like?

EEEKKK! I opened that here at work…glad nobody was around!

I hope his cover (if it’s really happening) is focused more on his music than his personal life.

Just came across another nice article about Adam – I think it is new, but my appologies if it has already been posted.

On the Future of Adam Lambert

I really should be working, but I’m the only one in the office today and surfing the net is so much more fun. Thankfully, it is pretty dead today so I’m not really neglecting work too much

Sunn, well-written article explaining how “fabulous” has been woven into the cultural fabric. Perhaps explains why he’s the one with all the media buzz, the one winning a Young Hollywood award?

Daytripper73- If you regularly read Rodney’s blog, the regular posters never say much nice about him. I haven’t been there in a while, but when I went pretty regularly, they rarely posted news about David, and I have never seen any good stories about him. I think they liked Cook during the season and therefore have chosen to diss DA.

From people.com:

Most of what is in this article is in other places, except this:

LaBry and Lambert have been pals for years. “He has never experienced anything like this à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ the paparazzi or attention,” the source says of LaBry and his sudden fame-by-association. “It’s very shocking to him.”

I do not believe that they have been pals for years. Drake graduated from LSU in 2008. (High School in 2004.) I have been told by a very reliable source that they were introduced late last Fall by mutual friends — post-Brad/Adam. My source could be wrong, but it doesn’t make that much sense that Drake would have been spending much time in SoCal when he was in college and I have never seen anything about Adam spending time in Louisana.

I guess we have a few more days of the Adam Lambert news void and we will see a lot more “info” from unnamed sources.

Mom in the Suburbs
Jun 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Sunn, well-written article explaining how à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“fabulousà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  has been woven into the cultural fabric. Perhaps explains why heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the one with all the media buzz, the one winning a Young Hollywood award?

Yep, Th Adam Zeitgeist.
I didn’t find the article earlier because for the past week my internet habits have been Adam-centric, neglecting all my regular reading sites of the past. Today I decided to get my act together ween myself off of the Adam obsession blanket, so I go to The Nation thinking to buck up on the politics of the pst week an lo and behold I find an Adam fabulousness study greeting me.
“Just as I thought I was out they pull me back in” never sounded so relevant to me than today. Lol.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  a role originated onstage by Tony-nominated American Idol heartthrob Constantine Maroulis. We understand why theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d want someone more conventionally good-looking, but wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it be cheaper just to hire Maroulis and let movie theaters serve alcohol like they do at the show?

“More conventionally good-looking”, That has got to be a kick in the face to Maroulis. I get the impression that he thinks he is the most handsome man on earth.

I’m glad for that award next week! It will give us some more career related stuff. I’m just not that vested in whatever the status is of he and Drake. Drake just doesn’t interest me at all.

I want some singing, some Kradam and a press release announcing that he has signed with RCA.

I want some singing, some Kradam and a press release announcing that he has signed with RCA.

Yes! As a totally new AI watcher, is it normal for the signing announcements to take this long? Do they just announce that they are signed or do they give details about producers, writers, etc. at the same time?

I have picked up here that all these different lables (Jive, RCA, etc) are all part of Sony – how does it get decided where these guys will be? Do TPTB just pick one, or do any interested labels “court” the artists they want and the guys choose or some combination of that?

carroll said:

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“More conventionally good-lookingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , That has got to be a kick in the face to Maroulis. I get the impression that he thinks he is the most handsome man on earth.

I am begging you all, please do not post the arm pit picture! If you do, please attach all necessary warnings. This has been a public service request.

From “On the Future of Adam Lambert” — I thik the writer really nailed it:

In order to not get his square peg shoved into one of the music industryà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s small set of round holes, Adam needs to take control of his career. He needs to insist on picking his collaborators, and he needs to fight for quality material. He needs to refuse to sing songs that do not meet a high standard. He needs to not let the suits, with their preconceived and narrow notions of what will and will not be successful, push him around.

Can he do it? I think he can. Unlike many prior contestants, Adam has been working in the entertainment industry, if only its fringes, for years, so he likely knows the ropes better than most and hence is less likely to get steamrolled.

I do think that the comparisons of Adam to Bo Bice don’t make a lot of sense. Once you get past the fact that they both came in #2 and they both performed rock music, what is similar? Plus, I don’t think that Bo Bice had the commercial potential that Adam has.

I just rewatched Bo’s “In A Dream” to see if my memory was cloudy. This performance was rated #2 all time at 96 on WNTS. I actually think that the bar has been raised since AI2. And many other performances were better than this. IMO it doesn’t reach the vocal or emotional level of several Adam’s performances.

Here’s the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Ob5wFP8bg

Let me know what you think.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  a role originated onstage by Tony-nominated American Idol heartthrob Constantine Maroulis. We understand why theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d want someone more conventionally good-looking, but wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it be cheaper just to hire Maroulis and let movie theaters serve alcohol like they do at the show?

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“More conventionally good-lookingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , That has got to be a kick in the face to Maroulis. I get the impression that he thinks he is the most handsome man on earth.

I know I’m evil, but wouldn’t it be hilarious if Cook got the role.

I agree. Leave Kelly the hell alone She is beautiful and has a wonderful voice and produces fun music. That should do it. Of course, it doesn’t.

I am SO stoked for Adam! I really, really hopes he sings at the ceremony (AND NOT NO BOUNDARIES, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD). If he does perform, I bet he does MAD WORLD, as that seems to be the single TPTB are pushing (as he has now sung it 100x in the past two weeks at every media outlet, from CBS to NBC to FOX). Would love to hear FG or ToMT or ACIGC, but I will take what I can get.

I bought tix to the Boston Garden Idols Tour (okay, TICKET as I have no one to go with, hint hint) the minute they went on sale. They are floor seats. The next night they had loge seats, at the same price ($65, I think,the highest price), but I was just glad to have them. I will try live blogging, if I can see my iPhone while I’m dancing to Kradam and Allison. Did I forget someone in the Top 4?! Ha.

PLEASE tell me the RS article will focus on his music and tremendous vocal prowess and not his sexual orientation. Unlike the EW cover story from about a month ago, with a clear agenda and no input from Adam, there was a short article in RS last month about how Adam had brought back Idol. Yes, it brought up sexual orientation, but it was more about how, gay or straight, Adam had brought back Idol. I agreed with it, of course. I am sure he will look stunning on the cover. I am gunning for Emo!Adam.

The skater dancing to I Just Love You is probably my favorite youtube video of all time, as that is my favorite Lambert song, and there is an interesting back story, about its making, beginning with Adam in Wicked.

Finally, when People has more cred than msnbc, we are definitely living in a mad world.

pjd
Jun 5th, 2009 at 11:16 am
I hope this isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t a repeat – Gene Simmons from KISS was interviewed on the radio yesterday and had a couple nice things to say about Adam

So Gene Simmons thinks Adam should have won and told Brain May that Adam should be their new lead vocalist. I guess it really was a PR staffer who wrote that online comment on the Kiss Website as eveyone here thought.

suenigma — very evil!!

Sunn, thanks for the Nation Article. I loved this part, it just totally captures Adam on American Idol.

From his audition performance of “Bohemian Rhapsody,” his haunting versions of “Tracks of My Tears” and “Mad World” to his anthem call in “Born to Be Wild” to “take the world in a love embrace” and his near-orgasmic interpretation of “Ring of Fire,” he was both Everyman and Everygayman: not any one sex so much as every sex, skating the edge of ecstasy and terror, practiced in all the feints and masquerades demanded by ordinary life but unsettled by them, urgent, wanting, driven to kick the table of hardened assumptions, still in 2009, and rearrange the pieces in the hope of feeling real, “Feeling Good.”

I just rewatched Boà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“In A Dreamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  to see if my memory was cloudy. This performance was rated #2 all time at 96 on WNTS. I actually think that the bar has been raised since AI2. And many other performances were better than this. IMO it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t reach the vocal or emotional level of several Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performances.

Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Ob5wFP8bg

Let me know what you think.

I never knew who Bo Bice is until you linked to him, I knew the name from conversations around here but have never seen him perform, And I have to say that performance is pretty awesome. He has a great voice, very bluesy and soulful. As to commercial appeal, it would depends entirely on the choice of music as Bo has the kind of voice and style that can easily be seen as old fashioned and boring with the wrong material. Adam I think doesn’t have that problem. He is excitement incarnate, and as such, love him or hate him he will get your attention and possibly your money.
I was tween when Madonna came out with Holiday, and I remember can remember disliking her and the song. But that didn’t stop me from dressing like her and going to her concerts because because she was so exciting and different and played right into my rebelliousness. It wasn’t long before every single she produced was a mandatory buy for me.
I see Adam like that. I see the way people react to him and it reminds me of what it was like when Madonna first came on the scene. Hopefully his career will prove to be just as iconic.

I do not believe that they have been pals for years. Drake graduated from LSU in 2008. (High School in 2004.) I have been told by a very reliable source that they were introduced late last Fall by mutual friends à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  post-Brad/Adam. My source could be wrong, but it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make that much sense that Drake would have been spending much time in SoCal when he was in college and I have never seen anything about Adam spending time in Louisana.

TKat, I do think that your source was perhaps a bit confused as to when they met, or the information was somehow mis-communicated. If you saw Adam’s personal myspace when it was opened up last month, you saw that Drake was leaving him friendly comments there starting in late 2007. There are screen caps of at least one message floating around that someone had the foresight/stalkerness to save.
I think Drake mentioned in his blog while he was an LSU student trips to Los Angeles and San Francisco, perhaps they met while he was out visiting at some point. Or it could have been that they only knew each other online until more recently.

Interesting….it is a Demi Lovato concert when the ticket sales are doing poorly. The DA fan community was all over the fact that it should have been billed as a co-headliner concert when the tour was announced because many felt that David would be the big draw.

Sometimes it just seems like all of the puzzle pieces don’t fall into place easily. I really don’t know much about the Demi/David tour this summer or the Jonas Bros/Jordin tour since I’m not into “Disney” and don’t hang out with anyone of the age that would really be looking forward to these tours. I personally think that some of David’s older fans that supported him very nicely at his solo tour aren’t that comfortable putting out bucks to watch him perform with someone else that really hasn’t got a lot of “cred” outside of the Tween/teen dynamic.

I haven’t made it a secret that I find the current marketing for David slightly bizarre. It switches from McFly to “Disney” in a matter of seconds, from arena concert headliner in Manilla to opening act for a basically unproven Demi the next. I am sure if this seems schizophrenic to me it may have the same affect on other casual fans.

I just hope that David can rise above the ambiguities that still surround him and that his loyal fans will support him no matter what.

Adam needs to take control of his career. He needs to insist on picking his collaborators, and he needs to fight for quality material. He needs to refuse to sing songs that do not meet a high standard. He needs to not let the suits, with their preconceived and narrow notions of what will and will not be successful, push him around.

From what I heard (from an “insider”, LOL), I would not recommend that course of action. It was attempted by a previous Idol and that Idol not only did not succeed, but also made himself severely disliked (the record label does not appreciate new-comers telling them how to do their jobs). Idols can gently push for what they want, but they also have to be able to compromise. IMO.

I guess it really was a PR staffer who wrote that online comment on the Kiss Website as eveyone here thought.

I never thought that. I just can’t believe that a PR staffer wouldn’t be better at doing “PR”. Dissing another artist like that is not going to benefit your employer (as we saw). On the other hand, from what I have seen/read about Gene, this is exactly the off-the-cuff garbage he likes to spew and frequently changes his mind about later. Anybody remember when he was a guest judge for Idol? Yeesh. Gene is an a$$. Personally, I would be more offended if a professional PR staffer wrote that than I would be if Gene wrote it. And I think it says more about Gene than it does about Adam, anyway.

CindyM
Jun 5th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Sunn, thanks for the Nation Article. I loved this part, it just totally captures Adam on American Idol.

Your welcome CindyM, it was my pleasure.

I think it’s kind of funny and oh-so-predictable they wouldn’t cast Constantine in the movie version (if they do one) of “Rock of Ages.” Zac Efron is mentioned for every role which has music anywhere near it, though, and I doubt that’s serious. Maybe lookalike Chace Crawford can step in for this one, too. (He’s supposedly doing the remake of Footloose, which Efron was originally slated for.) Meanwhile, I’d take Jason Tam instead. He played Paul in the recent B’way Chorus Line and is currently on One Life to Live. He can sing AND dance. Except they prefer to go with people who can’t sing OR dance, like Chace Crawford. Sigh. Sometimes I hate Hollywood.

In other news, YAY for A-Fed and Diana. I hope that turns out well.

Does anyone know who won those Young Hollywood Artist awards before? I’ve never heard of that one, and I don’t recognize most of those names. Which isn’t surprising, me being an anti-trendite and all that.

I was hoping for huge success for Demi Lovato because I have a relative who was a studio musician on her latest single. The funny thing is that most of us in the family had no idea who Demi Lovato was, either, and everybody was googling her to find out. But we’re old and tragically unhip. It’s to be expected!

I have to agree with Kirsten. Adam can’t push too hard – learn a lesson from Taylor. TPTB won’t take kindly to being told what to do.

I would not recommend that course of action. It was attempted by a previous Idol and that Idol not only did not succeed, but also made himself severely disliked (the record label does not appreciate new-comers telling them how to do their jobs). Idols can gently push for what they want, but they also have to be able to compromise. IMO.

Exactly. It can end up being a recipe for disaster.

This was at the top of People.comà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s homepage. Interesting how they refer to Drake as nothing more than Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“palà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“best friendà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Reading that article was like stepping into some sort of parallel universe. But good for People for not jumping to conclusions like so many others, i.e. established relationship, because until Adam confirms it, we just don’t know. It’s interesting to read that Drake still lives in Louisiana.

Disaster Song … lol, because it works on so many levels.

We understand why theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d want someone more conventionally good-looking, but wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it be cheaper just to hire Maroulis and let movie theaters serve alcohol like they do at the show?

OUCH! :laugh_tb:

really cool article about danny. loved what he said at the end about his charity.

btw it looks like a lot of these idols read the blogs but dont they realise it is only perhaps 5% (my guesstimate) of the american idol viewership????

Bufflehead, you are corrent. I could have been told wrong info. And probably shouldn’t have repeated it here.

TKat, I do think that your source was perhaps a bit confused as to when they met, or the information was somehow mis-communicated. If you saw Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s personal myspace when it was opened up last month, you saw that Drake was leaving him friendly comments there starting in late 2007. There are screen caps of at least one message floating around that someone had the foresight/stalkerness to save.
I think Drake mentioned in his blog while he was an LSU student trips to Los Angeles and San Francisco, perhaps they met while he was out visiting at some point. Or it could have been that they only knew each other online until more recently.

Can’t say that I have been through Adam’s old MySpace page or Drake’s blog. I do know that Drake spent the summer of 2007 in LA so I guess that they could have met. West LA is a very small place — everyone knows everyone.

Once again, what I know is gossip, not fact. I was told the Adam-Drake story weeks before the first gossip showed up online and most of what I was told is true. I am certain that my friend knows what hs is talking about when he says they were “introduced” by friends last Fall (he thinks it was November) and my friend has know Adam for years. So perhaps they knew each other but were casual friends. I am told they are not just friends now, but they are not heading to Iowa to get married either. (Contrary to what “Hollywood Gossip” has written about Adam being “head over heals in love and ready to settle down”.)

I guess I really don’t care as long as Adam is happy and makes some great music. And since I despise the press for their “a source said” stories, I should avoid it too.

Bufflehead Jun 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm

I do not believe that they have been pals for years. Drake graduated from LSU in 2008. (High School in 2004.) I have been told by a very reliable source that they were introduced late last Fall by mutual friends à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  post-Brad/Adam. My source could be wrong, but it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make that much sense that Drake would have been spending much time in SoCal when he was in college and I have never seen anything about Adam spending time in Louisana.

TKat, I do think that your source was perhaps a bit confused as to when they met, or the information was somehow mis-communicated. If you saw Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s personal myspace when it was opened up last month, you saw that Drake was leaving him friendly comments there starting in late 2007. There are screen caps of at least one message floating around that someone had the foresight/stalkerness to save.
I think Drake mentioned in his blog while he was an LSU student trips to Los Angeles and San Francisco, perhaps they met while he was out visiting at some point. Or it could have been that they only knew each other online until more recently.

I’m sure there is a whole lot we don’t know about Drake and Adam’s lives. Maybe Drake came to California a lot on interior design internships. Or had a summer job in LA and struck up a friendship with Adam then. Who knows? Only Adam and Drake know the details for sure.

Both David’s in Maxim Philippines

http://www.snarkyarchies.com/2009/06/i-have-missed-mangoooo-chatter.html

^^^I love the pic. Thanks for posting the scan.

Here’s another nice little Adam story — not really much news but interesting in terms of the reader’s rankings — HAH!

http://www.askmen.com/celebs/men/entertainment/adam-lambert/index.html

The skater dancing to I Just Love You is probably my favorite youtube video of all time, as that is my favorite Lambert song, and there is an interesting back story, about its making, beginning with Adam in Wicked.

Yes, I agree.

I never thought that. I just canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe that a PR staffer wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be better at doing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“PRà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . Dissing another artist like that is not going to benefit your employer (as we saw). On the other hand, from what I have seen/read about Gene, this is exactly the off-the-cuff garbage he likes to spew and frequently changes his mind about later. Anybody remember when he was a guest judge for Idol? Yeesh. Gene is an a$$. Personally, I would be more offended if a professional PR staffer wrote that than I would be if Gene wrote it. And I think it says more about Gene than it does about Adam, anyway.

OK, I guess I should have said “a lot of people on this site” didn’t think that Gene Simmons personally answered that reader’s letter. And, yes, I agree it was a thoughtless response — and although Gene Simmons is not my fav, he is way to smart to right anything like the response that showed up on the Website.

On May 21 right after the Finale, Gene Simmons personally told reporters that Adam was talented and should be Queen’s noxt frontman. He also said this:

KISS’ frontman Gene Simmons revealed that he is willing to take the runner-up of “American Idol” season eight, Adam Lambert, on a tour with his band. “He can come on tour whenever he’d like,” Gene told Extra after the Idol result show on May 20 was wrapped up.

“Of course he’d have to put his armor on because the fans, especially the KISS fans, take no prisoners,” Gene elaborated his statement. “You gotta go big. Gotta be strong. You gotta be a rock, baby!” During the occasion, he also praised Adam stating, “Adam was fantastic. What a powerful and attractive man he is.”

On May 22, this appeared on his Website:

In a Q&A session posted today on Gene Simmons’ website, the Kiss bassist and recent Idol guest/Lambert duet partner had an already-controversial response to a fan who posted the following query: “Can you hook Adam Lambert up with someone to get him started on the way to be another rock god like you?”

His reply: “Respectfully, I don’t think Adam is a rock singer. He sounds much more convincing singing ballads, and Broadway shows. His voice doesn’t seem to have a ‘rock quality.’ But, I’m sure he’s going to do just fine.”

Somehow, I don’t think that Gene Simmons thought Adam should sing with Queen and tour with Kiss, then thought he should do Broadway not rock for a few minutes, then reverted back to thinking that Adam should do rock.

I have to wonder why Queen should be concerned with what Gene Simmons thinks about anything.

LOL, I love Adam (and Taylor) as much as the next guy but that article you just linked, lizardino talks about Adam not turning out a nobody like Ruben but alonside other AI alum successes Carrie Underwood and Taylor Hicks.

Is Adam the first contest to win at the Young Hollwood Awards?

No, Katharine McPhee won Exciting New Vocalist in 2007, and she will also be at this years awards as a presenter.

Rodney Ho’s blog isn’t a DA blog. If the DA fans didn’t attack over every little thing, half of the snark in the comments wouldn’t be there.

No doubt if the headline read that “DA’s concert” was sold out, there wouldn’t be a collective rush to correct the headline and credit Lovato.

I am stunned at the revelation that a “fan” took screencaps of old Myspace comments between Adam and the guy he is dating. Just because it isn’t illegal doesn’t make it normal. Nothing AI fans do should suprise me I guess.y

Wow, so Danny looks at dial idol? hehe.. Is that how all these contestants sense that it’s time for them to go home?

Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s another nice little Adam story à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  not really much news but interesting in terms of the readerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s rankings à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  HAH! http://www.askmen.com/celebs/men/entertainment/adam-lambert/index.html

Who cares about the ranking. Its just great that AskMen included him!!

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  a role originated onstage by Tony-nominated American Idol heartthrob Constantine Maroulis.

It becomes difficult to keep my lunch from coming up when people refer to that greasy douchebag as a “heartthrob”.

There is one thing I find more amusing than the fact that Danny Gokey erroneously thinks he’s got soul. And, it’s this post in the comments section of that RS article:

My deepest pity for Slezak, KRistin, MJ and Rickey (and all those at voteforthe worst) cuz you are all the very worst, the lowest form of human life. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m ashamed of all of you and your rabid followers.

MJ – I hope you saw this, and laughed your ass off. I’m secretly hoping that I’m one of the lower life form, rabid followers that this poster is pittying LMAO.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  a role originated onstage by Tony-nominated American Idol heartthrob Constantine Maroulis. We understand why theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d want someone more conventionally good-looking, but wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it be cheaper just to hire Maroulis and let movie theaters serve alcohol like they do at the show?

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“More conventionally good-lookingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , That has got to be a kick in the face to Maroulis. I get the impression that he thinks he is the most handsome man on earth.

If Constantine does get replaced in a movie version he’ll be following in a long-standing tradition. Back in the day, they replaced Julie Andrews who had starred in “My Fair Lady” on Broadway forever with Audrey Hepburn who couldn’t sing a note! But she was “better known to movie audiences.”

Yes, Kat won in 2007. But they named Adam “Artist of the Year”. And list it as the #1 Award on the winners list.

I think that may be a new award, or at least wasn’t given in 2007 or 2008. And usually the Superstar winners are from movies, not music. Even Usher got one of their “One to Watch” awards.

Must be very cool for Adam.

Best Week Ever article (against the MSNBC article about Adam):
Does This Look Like the Face of a Diva?

“He even ate fruit with his hands. His hands.” Too funny!

LOL at the dancing Danny! :laugh_tb:

On the radio in Raleigh, NC, the tickets for the No Doubt and Paramore concert were being advertised at 105.1 top 40 for Monday and they were selling the tickets for $10 each!!! Not sold out.

I guess Demi isn’t the only one not selling out.

No doubt if the headline read that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“DAà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s concertà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  was sold out, there wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be a collective rush to correct the headline and credit Lovato.

Since it was always a Demi concert that they later added David to, calling it a David concert for any reason is dumb.

From Danny’s RS interview:

One theory on Kris Allenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s win is that your votes went to him once you were voted off. What are your thoughts on that, and did you expect him to win?
Kris and I draw the same crowd because of the ways we perform and the way we sing and what kind of music we do. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have the answer but I will say my votes didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t hurt him. I think if Kris had left his votes would have gone for me, but I left so I believe a majority of my votes went to him.

I’ve read this response in a couple of different articles. So basically Danny thinks that either he or Kris would have won and Adam was always going to come in second? I’m not sure he realizes even to this day how polarizing he was.

But I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to take away from Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ artistic ability and his singing. I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t expect to Kris to win. But I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t expect me to win; I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t expect anyone to win. Kris was really a dark horse in the competition and he shocked people with what he did and for good reason.

I think what he’s trying to say is that it was so close everyone had a shot to win, but it’s hard trying to decipher Danny-speak. I think he’s paying Kris a compliment. Sorta. It’s almost as if there are multiple conversations running through his brain and what comes out of his mouth is a blend of them.

I think it is a error on the part of David Archuleta’s management to team him up with Demi. (I don’t follow this closely, but who is managing DA anyway?) I’d say if he is to open for someone, it should be someone better established with bigger following. If he is opening for someone who has problem filling up a 6000 capacity show, he is doing something wrong, because I don’t see him having any problem selling out 2-3K ones (and possibly bigger ones) all by himself. The only point for him to open for someone else would be to gain extra fans, from the way it is going it looks like a large portion of the audience would likely to be his fans anyway, so what’s the point? Would be far better for him to tour by himself instead of just tagging on to someone who just happens by.

Best Week Ever article (against the MSNBC article about Adam):
Does This Look Like the Face of a Diva?

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“He even ate fruit with his hands. His hands.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Too funny!

LOL at the dancing Danny!

“OH HALE NAW” She is so friggin funny, I love her and her support for Adam. I hope she gets to interview him again someday.

I agree Hazehel, a lot of the fans that have purchased tickets for the Demi/David show did so to see Archuleta. He has a local fanbase here in Baton Rogue that are planning a big hoopla when he comes to Lafayette. He could probably have done just as well on his own. But, anyway, he seems like a nice and sincere kid and I don’t understand why anyone would wish him anything but good luck.

I’m a little shocked at the amount of close scrutiny almost close to stalking that Adam’s bf is getting from Idol fans.I don’t remember a girlfriend of any Idol contestant being followed so closely.Would fans fell ok doing all that detective work if it was woman? Finding old videos, my Space stuff, personal info. etc. I guess they think since it’s a guy, it’s ok. Or maybe they’re not as jealous. Or it’s newsworthy because it’s part of the “coming out” story. Very weird stuff, even for Idol.

Taylor had some weird fake girlfriend stuff going on. But those people I think were either pulling a prank or nuts.

I do think that the comparisons of Adam to Bo Bice donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make a lot of sense. Once you get past the fact that they both came in #2 and they both performed rock music, what is similar? Plus, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that Bo Bice had the commercial potential that Adam has.

I just rewatched Boà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“In A Dreamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  to see if my memory was cloudy. This performance was rated #2 all time at 96 on WNTS. I actually think that the bar has been raised since AI2. And many other performances were better than this. IMO it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t reach the vocal or emotional level of several Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performances.

I think Bo is much better at making an emotional connection to a song. Adam’s got a bigger vocal range, but I think Bo bests him at feeling the music. His performances are raw and gritty rather than polished and calculated, so I guess it’s somewhat a matter of taste. In A Dream is the perfect example of that. No fog, no costume, no band, just a guy pouring his heart out on stage. It’s still one of the very best moments ever on Idol, not just to me but to all the critics who put together ‘best of’ lists.

There are similarities between Bo and Adam. Both were really popular on AI and groundbreaking for the show. Both are great performers who don’t fit neatly into a current and popular kind of music. Both had tons of fans who were sure their favorite could become a big star by continuing to be different because it had worked so well on tv. Bo didn’t get the chance to find out, because RCA forced him to record an album that didn’t suit him at all. I hope Adam does.

Where did Adam will artist of the year? He hasnt even began his career lol.He was a runner-up.He did nothing but come close to winning a talent show.I cant take that seriously.God is Adam is already a artist then what are people
like Katy Perry,Kelly Clarkson,John Mayer,Fergie,Jason Mraz.I mean really?

I had to check out Bo Bice before giving my thoughts on the comparison. No doubt about it, he has a very nice voice. Big vocals, very relaxed and soulful. Still, he is vastly differently different from Adam in my opinion. Adam is entertaining in a totally different way, Bo Bice seems more serious. I think Adams ability to be entertaining is what makes him special. I know many will argue that its in the eyes of the beholder what is entertaining, however, there is an exciting energy around Adams performances that we haven’t seen before (at least not on AI).

The Young Hollywood Awards tend to give out awards to young “up and comers” in the entertainment business. So Adam fits their awards criteria.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a little shocked at the amount of close scrutiny almost close to stalking that Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s bf is getting from Idol fans.I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t remember a girlfriend of any Idol contestant being followed so closely.Would fans fell ok doing all that detective work if it was woman? Finding old videos, my Space stuff, personal info. etc. I guess they think since ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a guy, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ok. Or maybe theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re not as jealous. Or ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s newsworthy because ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s part of the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“coming outà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  story. Very weird stuff, even for Idol.

I know and it’s totally squicky. I just don’t understand how anyone thinks that Drake is any business of the fans just because he’s possibly involved with Adam. That relationship is only the business of two people, Adam and Drake, and nobody else. BTW it is happening with Clay’s bf as well. It’s just weird.

I don’t really know about these Young Hollywood Awards, but it could be that it is partly for his work pre-Idol. He has been performing around Hollywood in both theater and music for quite a while… I haven’t seen who votes for these awards, but if it is local “Hollywood” people, then I would think Adam would have a lot of support. This isn’t a recording industry award so having a record probably isn’t part of their definition of “artist”.

If they were for “Up and Comers” awards I dont think Adam would fit there standards.Well clearly all you need to do to get awards to sing the hell out of songs on a talent show then come in second.You dont need to look worthy or put out albums,Its nice to know what it takes to win awards.Nobody on this season proven themselves worthy of any awards.Yet.

Its the “Young” Hollywood Awards so i should be laughing that so people thought Kris had a tween/teen vote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjMNcEBrJQg

I just wanted to share this… The song (Someday) is about Elliott’s mom and is on his new cd. It’s footage from his little mini tour so I’m hoping this is okay. Just delete me if not, MJ.

This isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t a recording industry award so having a record probably isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t part of their definition of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“artistà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Usher and Taylor Swift have received awards from them. So has Zac Efron, etc. Its pretty much honoring who they feel are up and coming starts in entertainment.

“If they were for à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Up and Comersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  awards I dont think Adam would fit there standards.”

Of course he does. Adam hasn’t put out a record, he’s never been in a movie, never been on broadway, etc. He’s an up and coming star, and that is what they give awards out too.

I’m happy for him. Congratulations!! Its always nice when people are acknowledged for their talent and work. No matter how long or short their resume is.

“Its the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Youngà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Hollywood Awards so i should be laughing that so people thought Kris had a tween/teen vote.”

If I’m not mistaking it was released during the season that cougars (women over the age of 40) were the largest demographic that watched American Idol this year.

A lot of folks might have forgotten about Felicia Barton, Ido’ls top 36 finalist this season.

I still disagree with the judges for not picking her for the wild card. I thought she was much better than either Jasmine or Megan and even more commercial than Li’l Rounds.

Anyway, she’s on her way to making a record at Nashville and a FOX affiliate featured her live today (or was it yesterday ??).

She co-wrote two songs — MAGIC CARPET ( I loved it ) and HERE COMES THE DAY for her album and performed them on FOX accompanied by her husband on guitar.

Watch it here :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOOvZyQlat4

I’m happy for the guy dont get me wrong.I’m happy but its kinda un-derserving.I expect Adam fans to think that he’s worthy as elvis to
win it though lol.

If Zac Efron and Taylor Swift won this I expect them to be crap awards.This happens every year though.Someone who doesnt derserve awards
like Zac Efron,Miley Cyrus,Ashley Tisdale are all nominated then someone who derserves it doesnt win it.I feel REALLY bad for those other nominnees
up againest Adam who really made something of there career and then they lose to a runner-up talent show person.Such a disgrace.

Good grief! It’s not like it’s the Grammy’s or the Oscars. It’s a light weight awards show that likes to honor who they think are up and comers in the entertainment industry. Emphasis on UP AND COMERS. That means actors, singers, performers that are generally new to the scene and have enormous POTENTIAL.

pjd You may be right. Sunn linked that Nation article which points to how Adam seems to have made a big impression. The Young Hollywood award is likely for their perceived up-and-coming future stars. This award, the magazine covers, the media buzz all seem to point to a huge career for him. They seem to be disregarding his 2nd place finish; they only care about which new actors, singers, etc. are likely to sell. Guess that’s their prerogative. The fashion pics/videos from this should be great.

Best Week Ever article (against the MSNBC article about Adam):
Does This Look Like the Face of a Diva?

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“He even ate fruit with his hands. His hands.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Too funny!

LOL at the dancing Danny!

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“OH HALE NAWà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  She is so friggin funny, I love her and her support for Adam. I hope she gets to interview him again someday.

You are so right! I should email Michelle and tell her, “you go, girl!” That girl knows how to slap back.

cougars (women over the age of 40)

Incorrect definition!
Incorrect definition!

:annoyed_tb:

Srsly

:smile1_tb:

The Young Hollywood award should be given to “up and coming” press agents. It’s a PR thing pure and simple. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but I wouldn’t confuse it with anything more significant. It’s much better than winning one off those awards that Fox Reality gives out. That’s really bottom of the barrell.

Artistry in it’s purest form is about challenging perceptions and widening horizons. It’s about questioning values long since set in stone, about capturing the imagination and evoking strong emotions whether for or against. It’s also about demanding attention and acknowledgment even from those most vehemently opposed to what it represents. It is the seminal sign of a changing time.
Can anyone think of another young person who has done anywhere near that this year apart from Adam Lambert? I can’t.

So congratulations Adam Lambert on the well deserved award of New Artist Of The Year.

The “Young Hollywood” Awards winners list reads like a list of “Who’s Hot in the Entertainment business. It’s about who has buzz, is fashionable and the afterparty in one of the best in town. I think that an AI contestant being named their “Artist of the Year” is pretty cool — and would make Kara very proud. You know, it’s all about Artistry.

If they were for à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Up and Comersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  awards I dont think Adam would fit there standards. Well clearly all you need to do to get awards to sing the hell out of songs on a talent show then come in second. You dont need to look worthy or put out albums,Its nice to know what it takes to win awards.Nobody on this season proven themselves worthy of any awards.Yet.

Its the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Youngà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Hollywood Awards so i should be laughing that so people thought Kris had a tween/teen vote.

This award is not about winning the tween vote. It’s about recognizing the brightest young stars and a few inspirational veterns.

Usher won one of the 5 “One to Watch” award winners in 2008. That after he had 8 Grammy nominations, 5 Grammys, and countless other awards from Billboard to Nick’s Kid’s Choice 2002 and 2005 Male Singer.

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I just LOL at this BWE article. Thanks for posting the link:

http://www.bestweekever.tv/2009/06/05/does-this-look-like-the-face-of-a-diva/

re: Adam Lambert Destroyer of American Idol

I think Adam is incredibly talented. I am, however, starting to get pissed off at being told I was obsessed with him whether I loved or hated him. Honestly, I was indifferent.

And this:

People who never watched AI were suddenly tuning in to see what all the fuss was about.

Has me scratching my head. If so many people tuned in to see Adam, why were the ratings down for the show all season? Why was the finale less watched than last year’s?

Adam is a talented singer who will have a great career. He is not the second coming of Jesus Christ, he did not reinvent music, he is not doing anything NEW in the context of music as a whole (although he did within the context of Idol, but that’s another story).

Would fans fell ok doing all that detective work if it was woman? Finding old videos, my Space stuff, personal info. etc. I guess they think since ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a guy, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ok. Or maybe theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re not as jealous. Or ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s newsworthy because ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s part of the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“coming outà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  story. Very weird stuff, even for Idol.

It’s creepy either way. I can’t imagine needing to know so much about a stranger that I’d start investigating the person he’s dating.

Isn’t Adam kind of “old” at 27 for a Young Hollywood award? Practically middle aged for Hollywood. Or maybe that is just the women.

“Usher won one of the 5 à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“One to Watchà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  award winners in 2008″

That makes perfect sense because Usher’s career went off a cliff that year. And hasn’t recovered yet. It’s a publicity thing and there’s nothing wrong with that. Probably agents pitch their clients and deals are worked out as to who’ll actually show up.

Maybe Adam and Kat are sharing the same management? Since they’ll both be there.

So congratulations Adam Lambert on the well deserved award of New Artist Of The Year.

Sunn — What you said!

If people think that Adam Lambert is just some reality show runner-up, they haven’t been looking at Google lately. I’m not in the entertainment business, but I have enough performance experience and background to know that Adam is the type of person that doesn’t come along very often. Press and PR people know a hot commodity when they see one, and they would be silly not to take advantage of this (just from a marketing perspective).

You don’t have to like Adam (or his singing) to know that he’s the kind of artist who pushes the envelope and intrigues people a great deal. I can’t even remember how many times I read about people tuning into AI this season just to see what Adam would come up with next. I think someone who has talent like that — and knows how to use it effectively — is worthy of recognition.

If so many people tuned in to see Adam, why were the ratings down for the show all season?

I never watched the show before and I tuned in to see him. It airs here (overseas) 2 day after the live US edition and has been airing here for the past 3 years. I only started watching after I caught a glimpse of Adam in Hollywood week. I was never an AI fan, I’m still not really as far as shows go I can take it or leave it. I am however an Adam fan.

As for ratings.. According to what I read ratings are down across the board for all networks- I don’t know why that is but I’ll just blame it on the recession. AI may have lost viewership but no where near what was lost by other programs and other networks. Now whether that’s due to Adam or not I can’t say as I have no proof but my own viewing habits.

I’m loving these Adam fans. Keep up the positive thoughts. A lot of bloggers are just picking up the msnbc’s diva false scoop and it’s appearing again one after the other but sooner or later it will be history. That’s the price he has to pay for being popular. There are a few who are beginning to stand up for Adam (bestevertv.com was one of them). I hope the rest will follow.

That makes perfect sense because Usherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s career went off a cliff that year. And hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t recovered yet.

Huh!!!!!

From Wikipedia

In November 2005, Usher starred as a disc jockey named Darrell in the Lions Gate film, In the Mix.[59] On August 22, 2006, Usher took over the role of Billy Flynn in the long-running Broadway musical Chicago.[60]

Return to music (2008à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’present):

In 2008, Usher was ranked as the 21st most successful Hot 100 Singles Artist of all-time by Billboard magazine.He ranked higher than any other artist of his generation.

To promote the Usher’s fifth studio album, the single “Love In This Club” was sent to radio in February 2008 and peaked at number one on the Billboard Hot 100 and went on to spend three consecutive weeks at the topà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ becoming Usher’s eighth number-one single and the fastest-rising song of his career.[61][62] Here I Stand was released on May 26 in the United Kingdom and May 27, 2008 in the United States. The album debuted on the Billboard 200 at number one for accumulated first-week sales of 433,000 copies.[62] The follow-up single “Love in This Club, Part II”, which features American singer Beyoncà © Knowles and rapper, Lil Wayne, peaked at the Top 20 on the Billboard Hot 100, and “Moving Mountains” and “Trading Places” have both peaked at the Top 20 of Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart.[34] In September 2008, Usher announce he would embarked on the 15-date tour One Night Stand, in which the audience is only females.[63]

On January 18, 2009 Usher performed with Stevie Wonder and Shakira at the We Are One: The Obama Inaugural Celebration at the Lincoln Memorial. Usher is planning to release a new album in late 2009 titled Monster.[64]

“If so many people tuned in to see Adam, why were the ratings down for the show all season?”

I think it has been explained that the ratings compared to last year may be low but AI continues to dominate the TV ratings among all channels come Tuesday and Wednesday. So it’s more of people not watching TV alltogether but for those watching viewers, AI still is the tops.

Here’s a little bit of Adam news — even the papar-nazis must be getting board.

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/adam-lambert-med-center-stop-214362/

Usher married an older woman and had some terrible PR issues in 2008. I wouldn’t say his career is what it once was.

Here are the winners of the 2008 Young Hollywood awards. I recognize six names out of 20.

http://www.yhawards.com/2008/winners.html

Amazingly enough they didn’t give an Artist of the Year Award in 2008. Mmm, I wonder why? Maybe because Adam is the only artist in the history of Hollywood or maybe because it’s an easy way to tie in the publicity he’s already been getting.

Publicity is good. I’m not saying it isn’t.

I love all the discussion about an award that most people were probably not aware of before and don’t even know who has won or what categories it has. I guess it shows how important and relevant it is for the public.

If so many people tuned in to see Adam, why were the ratings down for the show all season? Why was the finale less watched than last yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s?

Not just that but why have the ratings breakdown showed that people were not tuning in for Adam? But many fans will never be able to see that.

I never watched the show before and I tuned in to see him. It airs here (overseas) 2 day after the live US edition and has been airing here for the past 3 years. I only started watching after I caught a glimpse of Adam in Hollywood week. I was never an AI fan, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m still not really as far as shows go I can take it or leave it. I am however an Adam fan.

That story is told every season.
Every year there are new people coming aboard… and every season you read “I never watched AI but I watched this season because of A. I’m not an AI fan… I’m an A fan”. Which I know it’s true. But it happens all seasons, even during the poor Season 6. I’m sure some could say the same about Kris. It doesn’t mean that American and the whole world was watching AI because of Adam or that Adam is the only one who gets new viewers.

From TKat’s link:

Taking his newfound fame in stride, Adam Lambert looked in high spirits as he stepped out in Beverly Hills on Friday (June 5).
The à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  runner-up flashed a peace sign to following paparazzi as he visited a local medical building on what was a lovely day

Jeez. they followed him to the doctor’s office. Nest we’ll have pictures of him going to the lav. Lol.

leome
Jun 5th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
It doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that American and the whole world was watching AI because of Adam or that Adam is the only one who gets new viewers.

I never said it did. In fact I said I had no idea. allow me to quote myself:

Now whether thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s due to Adam or not I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t say as I have no proof but my own viewing habits.

Geez–Poor David. He did great selling out his tour this winter in approx. 1000-seat venues. Demi Lovato is very talented but I’m sure that Disney knew that she didn’t have the drawing power to sell out large venues w/out someone else who can pull in people, like David did earlier this year. If this tour were being billed as a double headliner, I bet the tix would be selling better. I mean–you scan Ticketmaster for upcoming concerts in your area, and David Archuleta doesn’t come up at all–it’s just Demi Lovato. And frankly, unless you’ve got a 8 to 12 year old kid, you don’t know who she is.

David is only helping her sell tix with his core fanbase–that’s it. People looking for a concert to go to have no idea that he’s touring or, if they do find the concert, they don’t want to pay to see 30 minutes of David and 75 minutes of Demi Lovato. It’s so dumb–David’s name should be on Ticketmaster with hers, and they should both be doing 50 minute sets, alternating who goes first.

And it’s extraordinarily dumb that it will be impossible to buy David’s very good song Zero Gravity without buying David’s music video of the far weaker Touch My Hand. That Jive thought Touch My Hand would be a hit–insane. The demograph is just so incredibly narrow for that song–14 year old girls.

Rant over. I feel for David.

lola
Jun 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m loving these Adam fans. Keep up the positive thoughts. A lot of bloggers are just picking up the msnbcà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s diva false scoop and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s appearing again one after the other but sooner or later it will be history. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the price he has to pay for being popular. There are a few who are beginning to stand up for Adam (bestevertv.com was one of them). I hope the rest will follow.

Rickey.org posted a positive piece saying Adam wasn’t a “diva” yesterday, was still #1 on his site today. Looks like it takes 24 hours for reaction to start to these pieces. There also was almost immediate responses on some Theater sites, all pro-Adam.

In the meantime, that silly little piece of gossip was repeast on about 1,000 sites.

The best part is reading the Adam fan comments — the WTF response from women all over the world, my favorate was from a 79 year old Irish grandma who Courtney Hazlett should be glad is an ocean away from her.

Rodney Hoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s blog isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t a DA blog. If the DA fans didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t attack over every little thing, half of the snark in the comments wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be there.

It is exactly because Rodney’s blog is not a DA blog that it was so surprising to see Rodney write about a “non-story” like a weekend discount for tickets to the “Archuleta concert”. It’s probably more interesting that Itunes is selling a lot of Idol albums for $7.99 — although not Archuleta’s!!!

Amazingly enough they didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t give an Artist of the Year Award in 2008. Mmm, I wonder why? Maybe because Adam is the only artist in the history of Hollywood or maybe because ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s an easy way to tie in the publicity heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s already been getting.

As far as I can tell this is a new award introduced for the first time this year. And if that fact is to be taken as proof of a PR stunt then let me say that the fact that 19 or RCA (if it’s his record company) are going this far to promote him this early makes me feel very good about Adam’s future. Either way the award is very good news. Especially for those of us craving eye candy.

It’s good to be logged in. Regarding Adam Lambert – Adam Lambert came in second on American Idol because the majority of Americans wouldn’t know talent if it sat on them. Fortunately, there is a sizable proportion who does know talent. I am 54 years old and I have waited my whole life to see someone like Adam Lambert. I was too late for Elvis Presley. Adam Lambert has the voice of a God, he’s smart, he’s funny, he’s humble, he performs, he entertains. Anyone who can’t at least acknowledge that the man has talent, even if it might not appeal to you (not everyone likes everything – I’m not crazy about hip hop or rap and I happen to love opera – but I did go through a period of fascination with Nine Inch Nails after my mother died in 1997) needs to see a health care professional and get on some reality check medications. ASAP. I feel lucky to be alive and see this absolutely fabulous performer arrive on the scene. You ought to feel pretty lucky too.

Forgot to say courageous. Courageous is important.

It is exactly because Rodneyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s blog is not a DA blog that it was so surprising to see Rodney write about a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“non-storyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  like a weekend discount for tickets to the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Archuleta concertà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Why is it surprising? RH is based in ATL and his blog runs in the Atlanta online newspaper. The availability of tickets for the Gwinnett show is a relevant story. He might help sell a few tickets with that teaser alone.

Here are the winners of the 2008 Young Hollywood awards. I recognize six names out of 20.

JPFan, I think I’ve got you beat by 1. I’m pretty sure I recognize 7 of them LOL.

I’ve never heard of these awards before, but that sure was a page filled with good looking young people. I literaly cracked up when I clicked on it to see all of these kids – with Donald Sutherland in the middle.

I just LOL at this BWE article. Thanks for posting the link:

http://www.bestweekever.tv/2009/06/05/does-this-look-like-the-face-of-a-diva/

Okay, that was funny!

I don’t buy the diva thing either. It’s all for page hits.

The YHA have been around for a while now. It’s all a “potential” thing, like someone said above. Hopefully, Adam can fulfill on it! Maybe one day he’ll be on the list of “superstar winners.”

Every year there are new people coming aboardà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ and every season you read à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I never watched AI but I watched this season because of A. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not an AI fanà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m an A fanà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . Which I know ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s true. But it happens all seasons, even during the poor Season 6. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure some could say the same about Kris. It doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that American and the whole world was watching AI because of Adam or that Adam is the only one who gets new viewers.

This!

Adam is great, but he didn’t save the show, and the show won’t die next season because he isn’t on it. It even appears the world didn’t descend into chaos when he lost!

…with Donald Sutherland in the middle.

I know, right? lol [/Kris voice]

Yeah, it’s all pr. Every award is though. It says more about the pr machine for the presenting organization, than Adam’s pr machine. They think he’ll be “the shit” in a few years. They’re not always right, but it’s definitely something to be proud of.

My last post on this no big deal topic I swear but regarding the “19 or RCA (if ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s his record company) are going this far to promote him this early makes me feel very good about Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s future.” Getting involved with Young Hollywood is a tad low rent for 19M. The only other Idol alum involved is Katharine McPhee who didn’t use 19M for her management but went with another agency. I’m starting to wonder if Adam is also going to pass on 19M for representation.

Although it’s probably way too early to speculate on that.

Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a little bit of Adam news à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  even the papar-nazis must be getting board.

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/adam-lambert-med-center-stop-214362/

Also on Just Jared: http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/06/05/adam-lambert-sans-drake-labry/

I think he loves it

Okay, that was funny!

It did give me the lolz. And, every time I see that dancing Gokey video, then think of how he wants to do Dancing With the Stars, I crack up even harder. Surely, that would be public humiliation, and I’d thoroughly enjoy it.

By the way did anyone notice that Quween from Funny or Die is in one the pictures standing behind Adam?

By the way did anyone notice that Quween from Funny or Die is in one the pictures standing behind Adam?

HA! So, she’s an Idol stalker too? LMAO.

The availability of tickets for the Gwinnett show is a relevant story. He might help sell a few tickets with that teaser alone.

Yes, people might now find out that David is going to be singing at the concert.

I think it is a error on the part of David Archuletaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s management to team him up with Demi.

Major error. Personally, I think David is better than Demi and any of the Disney breed that are popular right now. The only thing David has in common with Disney is wholesomeness. Beyond that, he’s in a whole other league. If ticket sales are lagging, I can only presume that its because – apart from the tweens and teens – most of his fans wouldn’t be caught dead at a Disney-esque concert. I know I wouldn’t. I agree that he’d have no problem filling venues on his own. He’s been doing that for months!

Adam is a talented singer who will have a great career. He is not the second coming of Jesus Christ, he did not reinvent music, he is not doing anything NEW in the context of music as a whole (although he did within the context of Idol, but thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s another story).

I don’t know that what Adam has has been defined yet. Agreed, he’s not the second coming of Christ, but he is – perhaps – the second coming of Elvis. Incredible talent aside, part of his appeal is that he’s a rebel, he’s different and everything you want but know you can’t have.

HA! So, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s an Idol stalker too? LMAO.

Here she is again opening the door of the doctor’s office for him. Aah, the sweetie is protecting him.

OH. MY. GAWD. There’s video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4jGZqDk8tw

Adam meets Quween.

I think it’s funny as all hell that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Twilightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ director Catherine Hardwicke is receiving a ‘Young Hollywood’ award. Hardwicke is my age. Don’t get me wrong – I’m thrilled her work is finally being recognized somewhere. The woman has deserved much more than just this. And she should never have been replaced as the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Twilightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ series director – that was sexism as its very worst, Hollywood style….but ‘Young’ Hollywood? All I can say is you go, girl! Which brings me around to Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..if Hardwicke at 50ish isn’t considered either too old or too experienced (believe me – she didn’t sit around for 30 years waiting for her big ‘break’ to come) – then how could Lambert be excluded at 27? Like I said…..funny as all hell!

And give the damn role to Constantine! Personally à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stand him à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ but he created the role, he got a Tony nomination for the role à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ give the man a screen test at the very least. And am I the only one who is completely over Zac Efron? Please! Find somebody else for a change (and this doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean replacing him with a look alike). There are tons of talented actors out there. Audition a few people!

but he is – perhaps – the second coming of Elvis. Singing aside, part of his appeal is that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a rebel and everything you want but know you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have.

I like Adam, but the Elvis thing? There won’t be a second coming of Elvis, because Elvis is well, Elvis. One of a kind. A phenomenon that shall never be repeated. The guy’s been dead for over 30 years and is still one of the most famous people on the planet. The odds of that kind of thing happening again are so astronomical, they’re basically impossible. That’s the kind of hype that no one could possibly ever live up to.

Besides, I thought Taylor was supposed to be the next Elvis anyway

Geesh, he can’t even go to the doctor without being stalked? :blink_tb: Oi vey……….

Has me scratching my head. If so many people tuned in to see Adam, why were the ratings down for the show all season? Why was the finale less watched than last yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s

Exactly! What’s funny is that the “writer” acknowledges the significantly lower season ratings which completely flies in the face of her thesis that Adam generated an unprecedented curiosity/ excitement about AI that will will never be seen again!

But, she makes no attempt to reconcile this incongruity with her thesis– at all! It’s like she checked her journalistic crtical-thinking at the door and just gushed out some fangirly blog entry and then submitted it for her assigned column….

I think Bo is much better at making an emotional connection to a song. Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got a bigger vocal range, but I think Bo bests him at feeling the music. His performances are raw and gritty rather than polished and calculated,

Ding ding ding! And this perfectly sums up the difference between a true “music artist” versus a “perfomance artist” (who sings).

Adam Lambert– technically impeccable vocals? Absolutely. Emotional connection? Mmm, not so much….

That was a weird video … what do they want with him?

LMAO Snuffles. That’s effin hilarious! There’s so much giggling going on in that video, and I can’t tell if it’s Adam, the paps or some innocent bystanders.

Thank jeebus I don’t have a job that requires me to trap people in stairwells. I simply would not be cut out for that kind of rudeness.

It did give me the lolz. And, every time I see that dancing Gokey video, then think of how he wants to do Dancing With the Stars, I crack up even harder. Surely, that would be public humiliation, and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d thoroughly enjoy it.

Hey, maybe Danny could also use the cold, hard truth of the DWTS judges’ critiques. No tongue baths from them, I’m sure. heh

snuffles
Jun 5th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
OH. MY. GAWD. Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4jGZqDk8tw

Adam meets Quween.

That felt so claustrophobic. Adam was being so nice, but I was getting an anxiety attack just watching the way they surrounded him and blocked his exit. I think if that were me I would have lost my top. [Note to self: never become a celebrity]

Well there is nothing funny about that video. That is harrassment plain and simple. He’s got to stop being nice to those morons.

19 best hire him a bodyguard before the tour. This is ridiculous.

So much to comment on.

Kelly isn’t fat but we live in a weight obsessed country where women who look like 12 year old boys with breast augmentations are considered sexy. If Marilyn Monroe was 118 lbs, then the cameras back then added at least 20 lbs. easily. I am not judging Kelly on her weight, but on her stellar voice and solid song writing ability.

Bo Bice’s in a dream takes my breath away every time I hear it. I expect it always will. I don’t think you can take that performance out of the context of that year, and that competition,yet I think it still stands alone as one of my top 5 easily. Truthfully only Summertime and Imagine ranks more in my idol top 5. I think I would include several of Adam’s in my top 10. I think people are totally missing out on Bo Bice, but that is what happens when you really don’t/won’t conform.

I think American Idol fans as a whole are way too invasive when it comes to the personal lives of the contestants. That’s my take on it.

This award is great PR, it isn’t significant in any crucial way, but as an Adam fan I can just enjoy it for what it is. He’s memorable, he’s talented, and he is being recognized for it. Not an Oscar, or Tony, but it’s still great to be recognized.

Many artists concerts are being downsized and prices lowered. Neither Demi or David are at the point where they will consistently sell out. I would suppose however, that if the billing was flipped then it would sell more tickets. I haven’t seen David in concert, and would love to take my daughters who are fans as well, but the just don’t want to see him sing a few songs, so we will wait for the opportunity when he is at the head of the ticket. This doesn’t mean that much in the scheme of things. Those who will grasp on it are the ones who always have something to say. No biggie.

As for this xmas cd, I don’t like the idea of it even though I think it’s gonna sell like freaking hotcakes. The only way it will be a good idea is if he has a pop cd dropping during the 1st quarter of 2010, you can’t tour all year on an xmas cd, just ask Clay Aiken….

This is ridiculous.

I couldn’t agree more. Maybe he’ll have to stay indoors till they let it go.

Here are the winners of the 2008 Young Hollywood awards. I recognize six names out of 20.

I can’t figure out who on this list people don’t know but IMO everyone who won is 2008 is pretty well known. Some winners I think most people know: Jessica Alba, Taylor Swift, Zac Efron, Lindsey Lohan, Kal Penn, Scarlett Johanosson, Usher, Dakota Fanning.

A the rest are people that a lot of people know:

Britney Snow – TV and film actress, first TV series 1997, most famous for her role as Amber Von Tussle in the 2007 movie Hairspray. Will be in Hairspray 2.

Shia Labeouf – actor since he was 10, Disney star, leads in the films Disturbia and Transformers (2007)

Hayden Paniettere – actress, played Sheryl Yoast in Disney’s Remember the Titans, Lizzie starring role as Claire Bennet on the NBC television program Heroes.

Amber Heard – actress, played Seth Rogen’s character’s girlfriend in Pineapple Express. She appears in the film adaptation of Bret Easton Ellis’ novel The Informers.

Thomas Dekker – film and television actor, musician. He is also a singer and has written and produced two albums. best known roles: John Connor in The Sarah Connor Chronicles and Zach on Heroes. He also done lots of voice work.

Rachael McAdams – actress, starred in films: Mean Girls, The Notebook, Wedding Crashers and Red Eye.

Emma Stone – actress and singer, starred in films: Superbad, The Rocker and The House Bunny.

Alex Frost – actor, starred in Gus Van Sant’s Columbine-based film Elephant, which was awarded the Palme d’Or prize in 2003. Other films include The Queen of Cactus Cove, The Lost and The Standard. Very much in demand right now and has committed to 5 new films.

Josh Duhamel – model, TV and Film actor – most known for his role in Transformers. Very HOT!

Emile Hirsch – actor, film roles in Lords of Dogtown, The Emperor’s Club, The Girl Next Door, Alpha Dog, and Into the Wild. In 2008, Hirsch starred in Speed Racer and in Milk with Sean Penn, his director from Into the Wild.

Jake Gyllenhaal – first lead role in 1999′s October Sky, followed by the 2001 indie cult hit Donnie Darko, Also starred in The Day After Tomorrow, Jarhead and as Jack Twist in the film Brokeback Mountain opposite Heath Ledger. He’s also a well know political activist, actively involved with progressive causes, ACLU and Rock the Vote. (His dad is the director.)

Cam Gigandet – actor, starred as Kevin Volchok TV series The O.C., and in the films Never Back Down. In 2008, Gigandet starred as James in the film adaptation of Stephenie Meyer’s novel, Twilight.

Jesse McCartney – singer/songwritter. In the early 2000s was a member of the boy band Dream Street. Acting credits include TV series Summerland and recurring character in the ABC Family series GRÃŽ £ÃƒÅ½ £K. Has won lots of awards including 2 2008 Teen Choice Awards. 2009 Grammy nomination – Record of The Year for “Bleeding Love”

That video was sad to watch.

this is the uncut interview with kellie pickler on ellen.Its so funny.

http://ellen.warnerbros.com/2009/06/kellie_pickler_tells_all_–_ex.php

That video was sad to watch.

Yes it was and so was the video of them chasing his limo.

He needs a full-time bodyguard for now. Gone are the days where he can go out and hope to be left alone to even go to a doctor’s appointment.

Looking at the pix and seeing the video is totally different. In the pix, Adam looks happy and loving it. But the video shows hes pretty freaked out.

As far as I can tell this is a new award introduced for the first time this year. And if that fact is to be taken as proof of a PR stunt then let me say that the fact that 19 or RCA (if ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s his record company) are going this far to promote him this early makes me feel very good about Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s future. Either way the award is very good news. Especially for those of us craving eye candy.

Yes, it appears to be a new award and there is not equivalant to it in past years. Even Kat won her YH award in 2007, over a year after AI5.

And although some singers win these awards, they are very TV/Film-centric.
I can’t see a record label using this as part of a PR plan. And are the contracts even signed yet. Aside from the pre-Idol Tour press round and the RS cover story, it looks to me like Adam is being left somewhat alone.

I don’t know if 19 had anything to do with this award. Earlier today TPTB removed the Thread about the YH Award from the AI.com Adam Forum. Although they didn’t remove all the comments from other threads.

There are also always a few “icons” who are given awards, like DOnald Southerland. I use that term icons very loosely.

She co-wrote two songs à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  MAGIC CARPET ( I loved it ) and HERE COMES THE DAY for her album and performed them on FOX accompanied by her husband on guitar.

I wasn’t feeling the first song; it had kind of a very different vibe than the songs there were videos of her performing when she opened for David Cook. But, the second song, and DEFINITELY the other song from the VA Beach show are very pop friendly.

I had forgotten she was married. Now looks aren’t everything and who you love is who you love, but… I’m now slightly wondering if the TPTB’s decision to exclude her had anything to do with a worry that viewers might react the same way to her hippie hubby that they did to Carly Smithson’s tattoo-faced husband!

Adam Lambertà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ technically impeccable vocals? Absolutely. Emotional connection? Mmm, not so muchà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

There are a hell of a lot of people who think Adam connects emotionally to his music, because he is a performer does not take away from the fact he can deliver a song and have a connection to it.

I don’t think anyone is saying Adam = Elvis. What they mean by this is he has the potential to be a lasting figure in the entertainment business, like Elvis, Madonna, etc. Adam has awakened something in legions of women who are thrilled that sex has come back to the music industry. Adams sexuality and all it implies is turning a lot of people on. It is what it is, can’t deny it.
One of the things that made Elvis iconic was his death, like Marilyn Monroe and James Dean. If those people had all grown old the mystic of them would not be the same. James Dean did 3 movies and he is a legend.
People can compare Adam to Bo or whomever until the cows come home. Bo did a nice job with his stuff on Idol, but no way in hell does he has the charisma and “star” power thing Adam has. I’ve seen Adam in person, he has whatever it is that makes people want to be near him, to touch him, to share the same space as him. It is his extraordinary talent combined with magic. Not in any way being a fan girl, just stating what I observed over a few days.
Everyone can whine all they want about the press Adam is getting or an award he is getting. In the real world who won or came in second on Idol means shit. The press are going to do stories on who is the most buzz worthy. People can’t stop talking about Adam.
Kris is off doing his “Idol Winner” functions but as soon as all the stories are done on who “won” Idol, Kris will be forgotten. I love him, I think he is terrific, and I pray he has a great career, but he is not interesting in any way.
Technology dictated who won American Idol, not America. America did not choose their Idol. Even the fact that Adam has something like 12,000 members on his Official page and Kris has 3,000 pretty much answers the question on who is the most “popular” Idol. Google still has Lambert in the top searches. Kris is falling fast.

I think what heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s trying to say is that it was so close everyone had a shot to win, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hard trying to decipher Danny-speak. I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s paying Kris a compliment.

I think that is what he meant, and I do think that he is paying Kris a compliment. He has said a lot of complimentary stuff about Kris, in other interviews. Including saying that he would be the first person to support Kris when he puts music out and calling Kris a talented musician.

People can compare Adam to Bo or whomever until the cows come home. Bo did a nice job with his stuff on Idol, but no way in hell does he has the charisma and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“starà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  power thing Adam has.

So true.

Great pics of Adam to remove the bad taste of that horrible pap chasing video. Here

Okay, that video of Adam in the stairwell made me break out into a cold sweat. He was so f’n nice, even when you could tell he was starting to freak out a little bit. God, that boy needs a big ol’ bodyguard, stat. That was ridiculous and scary and just…ugh.

There are also always a few à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“iconsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  who are given awards, like DOnald Southerland. I use that term icons very loosely.

Not a Donald Sutherland fan? Your mileage definitely varies.

I still think it has less to do with his pr, and more to do with the organization itself. I’m pretty sure they’ve had other awards that came and went in the YHA. They just want the money and the press, and Adam brings them both right now.

Whoa, Adam meets Quween. And what a way. Trapping him in a stairwell? Sheesh.

By the way, I feel emotionally connected to what Adam sings, so not everyone just hears the technical ability. A Change is Gonna Come moved me, Beth made me happy, Ring of Fire was sensual and I felt it, and I could feel the alienation in Mad World. Mileage and all that.

The fan-squees over Drake (as well as Adam’s ex) have always weirded me out. Personal digging always has, though, but I am not surprised about it. Lord of the Rings changed fan behavior awhile ago. All have you have to hope is the sane outweighs the crazy.

He is not the second coming of Jesus Christ, he did not reinvent music, he is not doing anything NEW in the context of music as a whole

Maybe not yet.

OK, here I am again. Going to go out on a limb. Second coming of Elvis? Who knows. I was born in 1955 so I missed the early part of Elvis. But Adam Lambert? Adam Lambert sings better than Elvis ever could. Sorry, it’s true. I’m a singer, mezzosoprano, have sung in choirs/choral groups regularly since the early 1990′s and have been taking lessons for 7 years with arguably the best vocal teacher in the Southeast. Will never be able to quit my day job (see below) but singing is the joy in my later life. And I love Elvis’s voice. Love it. Adam just needs to work on some hybridized vowels and sing some Italian on a regular basis & he will be singing the way he is now when he is in his 60′s. I really hope that Adam doesn’t repeat Elvis’s life because Elvis didn’t have a very happy life. And I want Adam to have a spectacularly happy life. Regarding emotional connection – I’m a psychiatrist and I feel very emotionally connected to Adam. He wants us all to have a good time, he wants us to smile, he wants us to feel joy. I suppose I could be wrong about this, but I don’t think I am.

Addendum – my singing teacher thinks Adam is phenomenal too. But we both hope he sings some Italian – neither of us think he has ever sung in a language other than English. And English, to be blunt, sucks – it is a difficult language to sing. Italian and French are the best.

One of the things that made Elvis iconic was his death, like Marilyn Monroe and James Dean. If those people had all grown old the mystic of them would not be the same.

Elvis was iconic LONG before his death. By the time he died, he was 42 and suffering from the ill effects of bad habits. One could argue that much of his mystique was gone. IMO, Elvis is iconic for what he did while alive not because he of the terribly pathetic way he died. That just detracts from his legend.

James Dean may have become iconic because there was so much potential that was left unexplored. Elvis is iconic because so much of his potential was explored. IMO.

Technology dictated who won American Idol, not America. America did not choose their Idol.

That is one possible theory. The other possible theory is that the majority of voters prefered Kris. I doubt we’ll ever know for sure.

If Kris doesn’t end up being tabloid fodder, I think he’ll still be fine. Many singers have solid careers without being chased everywhere by photographers. They may even be happier for not being chased.

Sunn:

Thanks for posting the cute pics of Adam. The other guy is cute too!

That headline about the low Demi/ Archie ticket sales was needlessly snarky (no pun intended, SAers)….

In order to not get his square peg shoved into one of the music industryà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s small set of round holes, Adam needs to take control of his career. He needs to insist on picking his collaborators, and he needs to fight for quality material. He needs to refuse to sing songs that do not meet a high standard. He needs to not let the suits, with their preconceived and narrow notions of what will and will not be successful, push him around.

Can he do it? I think he can. Unlike many prior contestants, Adam has been working in the entertainment industry, if only its fringes, for years, so he likely knows the ropes better than most and hence is less likely to get steamrolled.

I have to comment on this too and echo Kirsten. The absolute worst thing for Adam would be for him to “demand” creative control. He’ll find himself right out of his deal and performing in a Vegas show within the year.

Also, given what Adam’s musical proclivities seem to be, I believe it would also be a very bad idea commercially to give him creative control. As in, biggest Idol runnerup sales-flop ever level of bad. Just don’t see a electronica-glam rock cum Rocky Horror record doing very well in 2009….

Just finished reading through this thread – I have a lot to catch up on!

First of all, Kelly is not fat. She is absolutely gorgeous and I think it’s great that she’s so comfortable in her own skin.

The Archie-can’t-sell-out-concerts article was weird. It’s Demi’s tour. Archie is just opening (and not even for all the dates, if I remember correctly).

That Quween (sp?) with Adam video is just a taste of what Adam is going to hav to get used to if he makes it in this business. It’s not normal for an Idol contestant, but it’s relatively normal for a celebrity.

Adam/Elvis comparisons: Vocally, they’re both good. Elvis had better tone, Adam has a bigger range, etc, etc. Personally, I don’t think Adam will be as big as Elvis. In fact, I doubt anyone ever will. The celebrity focus is spread out more now than it was during Elvis’s peak. Today there are many more huge stars than there were back then, so that combined with other factors makes it nearly impossible for someone to reach Elvis-level popularity. It’s not the talent, it’s the culture. (I’m not sure how well I expressed what I was trying to say there – my apologies in advance if it sounds ridiculous/makes no sense) ETA: Oh, and remember that other guy who was supposed to be the next Elvis and revolutionize the music industry? Taylor Hicks?

Technology dictated who won American Idol, not America. America did not choose their Idol. Even the fact that Adam has something like 12,000 members on his Official page and Kris has 3,000 pretty much answers the question on who is the most à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“popularà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Idol. Google still has Lambert in the top searches. Kris is falling fast.

Adam has been the clear favorite of the internet Idolsphere throughout the whole competition. That never changed. The number of members on the their fansites don’t mean much in the real, non-Idol-obsessed, regular music-listening world. If the amount of fans with an internet presence were an indication of anything, Adam would have won by a landslide.

iluvai
Jun 5th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
The other guy is cute too!

That’s Gerard Way lead singer of My Chemical Romance.

noctem seizure
Jun 5th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

Also, given what Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s musical proclivities seem to be, I believe it would also be a very bad idea commercially to give him creative control. As in, biggest Idol runnerup sales-flop ever level of bad. Just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see a electronica-glam rock cum Rocky Horror record doing very well in 2009à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

Mileage please remember that mileage varies. What may not suit you may suit others. What you call Rocky Horror show I call Bowiesque rock, and in case you haven’t noticed that’s what Muse an Lady Gaga are doing. So I’d say it’s the future.

canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t figure out who on this list people donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know but IMO everyone who won is 2008 is pretty well known. Some winners I think most people know: Jessica Alba, Taylor Swift, Zac Efron, Lindsey Lohan, Kal Penn, Scarlett Johanosson, Usher, Dakota Fanning.

I wasn’t talking about those people – but about the new people who were in the pictures of the up and comers / newcomers. They were all very young, and had only been in one thing (if that). I didn’t go far enough to see the names you mentioned above.

Adam has awakened something in legions of women who are thrilled that sex has come back to the music industry. Adams sexuality and all it implies is turning a lot of people on. It is what it is, canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t deny it.

I say this as an Adam fan, and someone who wanted him to win….. but, the posts you see about Adam changing people’s lives and making them appreciate music again, or being so sexy they cannot stand it…… well, if we had a little time, we could find posts about Clay, Taylor, etc. with the exact same sentiments. It’s an interesting AI phenomenon to me, but I think it kind of only exists in the AI interwebs world. And, I think it’s best to temper the expectations of Adam’s superstardom.

Adam has a great voice, and an interesting and warm personality. He also has the ability to make the media notice him. I think those are all positives, and it would be great to see him build on that and create a career for himself. But none of what he has is any kind of guarantee of a successful career. At this point, it’s all just wild speculation. That’s all I’m saying.

And, with regard to Elvis, while I agree that his death did indeed increase his cache so to speak. Long before that, he had already made a ton of movies, broken multiple record sales milestones, had tour revenue that was just off the charts and was quite simply already a legend. He may have died on a toilet as a fat, grotesque shell of his former self, but prior to that he had made a huge mark on the world.

So, however anyone means the comparison – it’s just a tad unfair – and way too huge a cross to bear for a new artist. (just my opinion)

TKat Jun 5th, 2009 at 1:19 pm

pjd
Jun 5th, 2009 at 11:16 am
I hope this isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t a repeat – Gene Simmons from KISS was interviewed on the radio yesterday and had a couple nice things to say about Adam

So Gene Simmons thinks Adam should have won and told Brain May that Adam should be their new lead vocalist. I guess it really was a PR staffer who wrote that online comment on the Kiss Website as eveyone here thought.

suenigma à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  very evil!!

Actually, the next day Gene wrote on his website trying to clarify what he meant: that Adam CAN sing rock but that Adam’s voice doesn’t fit with KISS, just like Mick Jagger’s voice doesn’t fit with Queen or KISS and KISS doesn’t fit with Queen or the Rolling Stones, etc. That his money was on Adam to be a huge success.

Emotional connection with Adam singing … earlier today I actually started crying listening to one of his upright cafe performances on YouTube – “I can’t make you love me”. It was absolutely beautiful. Part of what I love about Adam’s voice is that I feel connected to the music. I don’t think I have cried due to a song in 20 or 30 years – and I actually cry easily (I sobbed through the movie “Up” last weekend!)

I also LOVE his enunciation! Like JRZGRL1 I also sing (oratorio choir stuf) and totally agree that English is a sucky language for singing – part of why I am so impressed with Adam’s singing is that he manages to sing in English, sound fantastic AND I can still understand the words (and he doesn’t look like he is enunciating!) His range just blows my mind – and the depth of his falsetto is unreal. I keep thinking there has to be a break somewhere in his voice, but I just can’t hear it – maybe if he were singing scales it would show up, but I’ve heard some pretty extreme glissandos with no break at all… Lastly, he has amazing breath control – it’s not as obvious on the pop/rock stuff, but the performance of “Bend to me” from Brigadoon on line has a moment near the end when he sings an insane note for ages and then goes striaght into the next phrase without a breath!

If you are not a singer, none of this probably matters to you – you just like what you like and that is fine – but I think part of the reason for the what seemed like OTT raves from the judges and from others is that those raving are singers and are just blown away by what this guy can do.

Just a few comments:

Josh Duhamel – model, TV and Film actor – most known for his role in Transformers. Very HOT!

I’d say he’s most known for being Fergie’s husband. lol.

Jake Gyllenhaal – first lead role in 1999à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s October Sky, followed by the 2001 indie cult hit Donnie Darko, Also starred in The Day After Tomorrow, Jarhead and as Jack Twist in the film Brokeback Mountain opposite Heath Ledger. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also a well know political activist, actively involved with progressive causes, ACLU and Rock the Vote. (His dad is the director.)

Jake Gylenhaal. SWOON. I love him. He is so hot. It’s the eyes, I think. He’s my celebrity crush. I can’t help it. I fangirl over him. I do not deny and I am not ashamed. Ahem.

Also, in response to the No Doubt concert in NC. I don’t know how No Doubt is selling in other areas of the country, but when I saw them in Tampa on Tuesday, it was packed (even in pouring rain), and the show had been sold out for weeks. So there’s that.

Regarding the video of Adam, I think he can no longer go around by himself. I hope he gets a driver/bodyman to be with him.

but he is – perhaps – the second coming of Elvis. Singing aside, part of his appeal is that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a rebel and everything you want but know you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have.

The oddest thing to me is that some people say Adam reminds them of Elvis, others Zak Efron and some Jim Morrison. I think that Adam is Adam. But, I have to admit that setting aside the fact that they don’t have very similar voices or musical styles, there are undeniable similarities between Adam and Elvis.

I live in Tupelo, MS, Elvis’ hometown and a lot of Elvis relatives who live here and grew up with Elvis say Adam reminds them of Elvis. And living in a place where Elvis is the #1 tourist attraction, a local icon and protected as a once-ever talent, this is am unusual thing to hear. And there are a startling number of similarities:

They look a bit alike – black dyed hair (natural color light brown), blue-green eyes, same height & weight, shaggy hair (look at Elvis circa 1955).

And a fast list off the top of my head:

- born in January
- battled weight gain and acne
- made fun of in school, not popular in High School
- considered an “artistic” kid, not mainstream
- first performance at age 10
- notably polite and well mannered
- wore wild, flashy clothes
- enjoyed and performed a wide range of music
- commanding stage presence
- were multi-talented: could act, sign and dance
- liked big produciton numbers
- contraversal, dominated the media buzz
- both have a left-sided grin/sneer
- favor tight pants, often black leather

Finally, what stikes me as most similar is the way that they both integrate raw sex appeal into their performance. Here a contemporary comment about Elvis:

Presley’s sexual appeal and photogenic looks have been acknowledged: for example, director Steve Binder, not a fan of Presley’s music at the time, recalled from the ’68 Comeback Special (when Presley was fit and tanned): “I’m straight as an arrow and I got to tell you, you stop, whether you’re male or female, to look at him. He was that good looking. And if you never knew he was a superstar, it wouldn’t make any difference; if he’d walked in the room, you’d know somebody special was in your presence.”

I’m not saying Adam is Elvis or ever will be. Elvis is still the top selling recording artist of all time. And, if he had been allowed any creative control most likely would have been even bigger. And I sure hope Adam has a happier life, and lives longer, but I can see why people keep making the comparisons.

“Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Gerard Way lead singer of My Chemical Romance.”

Thanks Sunn!

I read through that whole picspasm post and the comments were funny, The pictures were super great and wow, Gerard is hottt!!!!! Thanks for posting. I’m gonna go look again! HA!!!!

“Mileage please remember that mileage varies. What may not suit you may suit others. What you call Rocky Horror show I call Bowiesque rock, and in case you havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t noticed thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what Muse an Lady Gaga are doing. So Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d say ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the future.”

Nicely said!!!

That video (Adam in the parking stairwell) was sad to watch.

Exactly how I felt. Really sickening. Sad for him.

Regarding whether Adam emotionally connects and communicates with his music, well, mileage varies wildly I suppose. Because, for me, I totally feel him communicating that connection all the time. So yeah, as with all things, mileage.

That Quween (sp?) with Adam video is just a taste of what Adam is going to hav to get used to if he makes it in this business. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not normal for an Idol contestant, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s relatively normal for a celebrity.

Nobody needs to get used to that…….nobody! It shouldn’t be acceptable behaviour and I don’t know why it isn’t considered stalking in the US.

…or harassment…

Danica_K Jun 5th, 2009 at 4:30 pm

re: Adam Lambert Destroyer of American Idol

People who never watched AI were suddenly tuning in to see what all the fuss was about.

Has me scratching my head. If so many people tuned in to see Adam, why were the ratings down for the show all season? Why was the finale less watched than last yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s?

The finale aired at the same time as a big basketball playoff game. I know as I was in my bedroom watching Idol and my son and daughter were watching the Lakers in the livingroom.

A lot of people I know, myself included, who weren’t avid AI watchers tuned in as word of Adam made its rounds at the office, etc.

A lot of people don’t realize that the rating system in this country is based only on 5,000 people who have a Neilson rating box in their home and another 5,000 people who fill out weekly diaries and mail to Neilson. Most of these boxes and weekly diaries are in middle America. We will never know how many people watch a particular T.V. show when it is based only on 10,000 people.

Calliope I’m a Lord of the Rings fan, and you’re not joking about that fandom. About Adam: 1) That vid of him trapped in the stairwell is scary. What gracious behavior, yet the msnbc piece calls him a diva. Ridiculous! 2) To all you SINGERS, thanks for the explanations of his technical ability. I only knew he has an amazing voice. Have you seen his Hebrew version of The Prayer? 3) He shows plenty of emotional connection in “Come Home,” in the Upright vid. He can go big or intimate (get your minds out of the gutter! In singing!) 4) There is something very exciting about him that I haven’t seen since Madonna in ’84. He makes people talk, yet he can actually sing while Madonna was just outrageous and entertaining. Madonna had her finger on the pulse of pop culture. Look where it got her. I think he’s the 2nd coming of Madonna, in gorgeous male form. When folks compare him to Elvis, I understand. Time will tell, but my instinct says he will be iconic. I didn’t say that about any past Idols. I’ve had good predictions about artists before though. My favorite band in college (was crazy about), predicted would be huge…a little Irish band no one had heard of named U2.

Actually, the next day Gene wrote on his website trying to clarify what he meant: that Adam CAN sing rock but that Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s voice doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fit with KISS, just like Mick Jaggerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s voice doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fit with Queen or KISS and KISS doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fit with Queen or the Rolling Stones, etc. That his money was on Adam to be a huge success.

Well it’s all gone from the Website now. Still this clarification sounds a lot different than the original comment — à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“He sounds much more convincing singing ballads and Broadway shows. His voice doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seem to have a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹rock quality.”

My guess is that the comment was on the site, the blogasphere went nuts, and they to respond. I still think that Gene Simmons is way too smart, and knows how popular Adam is, and would never have writen the first response.

Thank you, pjd – you said what I’ve been trying to say better than I could. One reason I am so blown away by Adam is in fact his ability to sing so incredibly well in English. Unbelievable. I also agree that the lack of obvious breaks in Adam’s voice is amazing – I have never heard falsetto like that before – takes my breath away. The lack of obvious breaks in Adam’s voice is amazing – I have never heard falsetto like that before. But I think he would benefit SO much from singing in other languages and I hope I will hear him do just that.

Right now I’m listening to the studio version of “Born to Be Wild” (previously only had the video) – totally different than the performance & totally wonderful. He’s throwing in some of the electronic techno stuff on this & it’s wonderful. He had mentioned Muse as a favorite band of his in an interview – did I already talk about this in this thread – don’t think so – bought “Black Holes and Revelations” yesterday (happened to be sitting in Target, waiting for me)- and there are definite echoes of it in this version of Born to Be Wild.

I also have to say, for what it’s worth in this thread – if you do not sing, you do not know what it takes to get up in front of a crowd and sing. Even if you perform on some other instrument, it is not the same. For a singer, their instrument is their entire body. There are so many more factors that can impact on how you perform. Adam has a mixture of both definable and some indefinable qualities that when woven together puts him way, way, way over the top for me (a somewhat jaded and cynical 54-year-old). And he had those qualities 4 years ago when he sang “Come to me, Bend to me” in “Brigadoon”. I am grateful that American Idol brought him to us. Listening to and watching him makes me feel the same way I did when I saw Joyce DiDonato (world-class, phenomenal mezzosoprano) perform in Atlanta (Spivey Hall) 2 years ago. I saw not just a technically awesome singer but a performer – someone who captured my soul. If you want to check her out, go to joycedidonato.com.

Finally, I want to comment on the United States vs. the world. People in the United States have a bit of tendency to forget that there are other countries in the world. And I am pretty sure that Adam Lambert has been noticed by a lot more people in other countries than Kris Allen has. Again, with all due respect to Kris, there is a difference. I wish Kris well, I wish all of the other Idol finalists well, I even wish Clay Aiken well although he really has said some really unfair and stupid things lately.

And I hope that Adam gets some really good bodyguards. People do stupid things.

Actually, the next day Gene wrote on his website trying to clarify what he meant: that Adam CAN sing rock but that Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s voice doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fit with KISS, just like Mick Jaggerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s voice doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fit with Queen or KISS and KISS doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fit with Queen or the Rolling Stones, etc. That his money was on Adam to be a huge success.

heh, I hope Gene Simmons didnt watch Adam’s Idolatry.

JRZGRL1 Jun 5th, 2009 at 6:33 pm

Addendum – my singing teacher thinks Adam is phenomenal too. But we both hope he sings some Italian – neither of us think he has ever sung in a language other than English. And English, to be blunt, sucks – it is a difficult language to sing. Italian and French are the best.

Adam has sung in Hebrew. See video Adam Lambert, Maya Haddi, Noa Dori sing SHIR LASHALOM (Song for Peace)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNb2Qsh0F_Q

A lot of people donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t realize that the rating system in this country is based only on 5,000 people who have a Neilson rating box in their home and another 5,000 people who fill out weekly diaries and mail to Neilson. Most of these boxes and weekly diaries are in middle America. We will never know how many people watch a particular T.V. show when it is based only on 10,000 people.

Actually the Neilsen samples are larger and it is an ugly patchwork quilt of three data collection methods. 69% of the US is in metered markets — these markets have “overnight” ratings which are usually what is in media reports. The remaining parts of the US use paper diaries. The 10,000 household are the households in the national sample who have “People Meters”.

Neilsen national sample is composed of a cross-section of nearly 10,000 representative homes throughout the United States, is measured by People Meters.

Large to mid-sized local markets (such as Seattle, San Antonio and Memphis) are measured by a different type of meter à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  one that gives information about set-tuning only. In these markets, demographic information is provided by a separate sample of people who fill out seven-day paper diaries.

Smaller markets (such as Honolulu, Hawaii; Tallahassee-Thomasville, Fla., and Fargo-Valley City, N.D.) are measured by paper diaries only. These seven-day diaries (and eight-day in homes with DVRs) are mailed to homes to keep a tally of what is watched on each television set and by whom. The tabulate an average of 30,000 diaries a week.

You cannot compare 2008 ratings to prior years because the conversion from paper diaries (manual) to meters (electronic automatic) has resulted in a significant drop in ratings — Neilsen says 8%, in South Florida 50% of the AI audience vanished from 2008 to 2009 (then converted to meters in October 2008.) Neilsen is being sued by the Miami Fax affiliate for $30 million in lost ad revenue due to the ratings drop.

THanks for the reminder, linsav – I did hear that YouTube clip. The value of Italian is the openness and clarity of the vowels. It keeps the voice clean in a way that English just can’t. I know Adam is going to be very busy but I hope he will be able to find a singing teacher/coach to help him stay as good as he can for as long as he can. I know my singing teacher would be happy to take up that position ;o) – actually he really just wants 2 weeks with Adam – but we’re on different coasts (assuming that Adam goes back to California as his base, which I think he will at least for a while). Thanks again.

That Quween (sp?) with Adam video is just a taste of what Adam is going to hav to get used to if he makes it in this business. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not normal for an Idol contestant, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s relatively normal for a celebrity.

Nobody needs to get used to thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.nobody! It shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be acceptable behaviour and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know why it isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t considered stalking in the US.

True, nobody should have to get used to it, but they do. I don’t understand why isn’t isn’t considered stalking either, but if you’re a celebrity the unfortunate truth is that it happens. Adam will have to get used to it, even if it’s wrong.

I live in Tupelo, MS, Elvisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ hometown and a lot of Elvis relatives who live here and grew up with Elvis say Adam reminds them of Elvis. And living in a place where Elvis is the #1 tourist attraction, a local icon and protected as a once-ever talent, this is am unusual thing to hear. And there are a startling number of similarities:

They look a bit alike – black dyed hair (natural color light brown), blue-green eyes, same height & weight, shaggy hair (look at Elvis circa 1955).

And a fast list off the top of my head:

- born in January
- battled weight gain and acne
- made fun of in school, not popular in High School
- considered an à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“artisticà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  kid, not mainstream
- first performance at age 10
- notably polite and well mannered
- wore wild, flashy clothes
- enjoyed and performed a wide range of music
- commanding stage presence
- were multi-talented: could act, sign and dance
- liked big produciton numbers
- contraversal, dominated the media buzz
- both have a left-sided grin/sneer
- favor tight pants, often black leather

Finally, what stikes me as most similar is the way that they both integrate raw sex appeal into their performance.

Thanks for posting that. Great list! I don’t think Adam will be the next Elvis, but I definately see the resemblances. It’s interesting to hear Elvis’s relatives do, too.

GeminiDolly Jun 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm

Actually, the next day Gene wrote on his website trying to clarify what he meant: that Adam CAN sing rock but that Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s voice doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fit with KISS, just like Mick Jaggerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s voice doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fit with Queen or KISS and KISS doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fit with Queen or the Rolling Stones, etc. That his money was on Adam to be a huge success.

heh, I hope Gene Simmons didnt watch Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Idolatry.

I believe he knows about it and that is why he keeps mentioning Adam. If he didn’t watch it his kids probably did. Something he said was taken a certain way and he probably had something else he said that was never printed which clarified his remark. Gene himself knows what an a$$ he can be. He runs on and says ridiculous things all the time. Gene Simmons is doing some minor damage control.

I say this as an Adam fan – I hope for the best for his future but I won’t make any predictions about it.

Believe it or not, so much of what is currently being said about Adam was also said about Taylor. Some of it almost word for word. There was an entire article on Taylor in Vibe magazine that even had him dressed up as Elvis for the photo shoot. Talked about him commanding the stage, lighting up the theater, revolutionizing music, etc. etc. There is no way to predict the future of these guys. You just have to wish them happiness and good luck.

Adam has a great voice, and an interesting and warm personality. He also has the ability to make the media notice him. I think those are all positives, and it would be great to see him build on that and create a career for himself. But none of what he has is any kind of guarantee of a successful career. At this point, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all just wild speculation. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m saying.

This!

Also, what you brought up about Taylor, Clay, etc…They said Taylor was the second coming of Elvis too. It is a terrible cross to bear, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see someone else bear it again in a few years.

I really just want Adam, and Kris, to be able to do the best they can with what they have without all this worship stuff.

Elvis was iconic LONG before his death. By the time he died, he was 42 and suffering from the ill effects of bad habits. One could argue that much of his mystique was gone. IMO, Elvis is iconic for what he did while alive not because he of the terribly pathetic way he died. That just detracts from his legend.

Elvis was not Iconic until later in his career, he was very controversial for a long time. Yes, his fans loved him and thought he was amazing, but it wasn’t until the later years that most of the rest of the world got on board. I’m sadly old enough to remember. His movies were a joke at the time, they did well commercially but were laughed at in the industry. What made him the entertainer he was and thus lead to his “Iconic-ness” was all the things that Adam has going for him. Sex appeal, charisma, incredible talent, outside the box performer, etc. I am in no way saying Adam is Elvis or could even be Elvis, I was just trying to explain why people are comparing him to Elvis. I also think people forget how he died, they remember him when he was younger and fabulous. I remember exactly what I was doing the day he died, as I do John Lennon and even JFK. But when I listen to Elvis music I don’t think about when or how he died.
The same can be said for Sinatra, he’s now another Icon. At the time he came on the scene my mother and her friends thought he was a greasy scum bag. The passage of time changes everything.

I realize that in the AI fan world everything is heightened. If fans were saying that Taylor is the next this that or whatever, it was the fans. The press and other musicians are giving Adam his props. He has cred, even after coming off Idol. Everyone thought Daughtry was this big rocker, on rock radio he is basically a joke.
If fans thought Clay had sex appeal and whatever,well, thats just sad. I have no response to that. LOL

That is one possible theory. The other possible theory is that the majority of voters preferred Kris. I doubt weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll ever know for sure.

I’m not buying that. AI had no problem telling us that 12 million votes separated the Davids last year. I realize DialIdol is sketchy, but they are always pretty accurate on the top 3 or 4. Adam and Kris were in a dead heat that night. The week before they were separated by less than a million votes. All the theories of why Adam came in second are to me just a bunch of speculation, the homophobes, the Christians, the anyone but Adam, etc. I think technology is what determines this contest. The people who are better equipped with the technology are the ones who come out ahead. If anyone wants to say America chose Kris then they need to do a one vote per person.
American chose the President, technology chose the Idol.

LOL I love that the things written here today about Adam are the same written in the past for many other idols.
I guess Taylor’s problem is that he wasn’t born in January… maybe he could have been the next Elvis if his mother had planed it.

JRZGRL1 Did you say ATL?? Are you going to the Idol concert at the Gwinnett center, the one that’s sold out, according to the above post? I’ll be there with my daughter. As mentioned before, I expect all the finalists to sound great live. Of course, I’ve heard Adam’s voice is unearthly live. Can’t wait!

And Clay’s fans compared him to Elvis and the Beatles when he first got off Idol, too. Yadda yadda. It’s unfortunate when fans compare a new singer to an icon like Elvis. It really turns off reasonably people.

Let Adam show what he can do. Check back in 5-10 years and then we’ll talk. The same is true of any new singer. Fan enthusiasm can go too far and backfire. Adam is full of promise, it’s exciting, but please don’t compare him to people like Elvis.

Also, like someone said, Elvis was an icon long before he died. And no way does Adam sing better than Elvis. Elvis had an amazing voice and sold zillions of records, had zillions of fans and still does. He was before my time but I sure remember what an icon he was. I hate to see history re-written. He was not an icon because of his death.

Let’s see what Adam can do before we start putting unrealistic expectations on him.

LOL I love that the things written here today about Adam are the same written in the past for many other idols.

Yes. I’m amazed that AI just breeds this type of fandom. I can certainly see it better this year when I’m not invested in anyone in particular. It must be like a constant deja vu for MJ. Every favorite Idol is the next Elvis and the Beatles. Of course one year later reality strikes, and the cycle starts all over again.

I also have to say, for what ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s worth in this thread – if you do not sing, you do not know what it takes to get up in front of a crowd and sing. Even if you perform on some other instrument, it is not the same. For a singer, their instrument is their entire body. There are so many more factors that can impact on how you perform. Adam has a mixture of both definable and some indefinable qualities that when woven together puts him way, way, way over the top for me

Thank you for saying that. I’m also a trained singer and get frustrated when some people say that people who are “only singers” aren’t musicians in the same way those who play instruments are. I’m not saying that’s an issue here, by the way, but it’s a criticism all singers get. Our voice is our instrument and our body is an extension of it. Having the voice, training, performance ability, and “it” factor in one package makes Adam unusual. I envy his just his vocal control alone — that run on Ring of Fire where he seemingly doesn’t breath for at least 20 seconds is unbelievable. Every time I hear it I just shake my head. That combined with amazing tone quality and sex appeal…ooohhh.

That said, Kris is also a great singer of a different type, as are some of the other idols past and present. Kris knows how to use what he has for maximum advantage, and he knows how to play instruments to enhance that effect as well. I like Kris and Allison (another amazing talent) a great deal and look forward to what they will do next.

That video of Adam — God have mercy. That one made me very nervous, and I agree that he should get a very large bodyguard ASAP. I’m glad Quween was there!

Adam has awakened something in legions of women who are thrilled that sex has come back to the music industry. Adams sexuality and all it implies is turning a lot of people on. It is what it is, canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t deny it.

Yeah sure, tell it to Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, and all those other non-sexy music stars.

I Feel bad that David isnt selling.I was a David fan but you wont see him at a Demi Shitty Lovato concert ever.He should of toured with someone else.

I bet what happen to Kat after the young hollywood awards will happen to Adam Lambert.People expect to much.Adam is the new elvis really? Elvis would be rolling around in grave if he heard that.People expect to much and IF people keep on doing that they wont like his album lol.

I agree with what the folks on this thread have said about Kelly Clarkson and her weight. So she isn’t a stick, so what? She looks great and happy. She has a great voice and has done very well for herself. Her new album is lots of fun; I’m glad it’s selling well. I’m not sure that most US listeners realize what a huge fanbase the idols have in other countries. The concert that both Davids had in the Philippines not long ago was crazy. Also, the US market is so fragmented by type of music that not everybody knows how well people like Mandisa are actually doing (unless you listen to Christian music).

Speaking of languages, I took 4 terms of Italian in college because I sing — va bene!

Kelly is beautiful.I love her wholesomeness.I also love she ignores what the press.Do they expect her to be a stick.I love Kelly for not trying to be like every other girl in hollywood.She’s certainly proven that she’s a role model for “Girl power”.

I just got my Entertainment Weekly magazine in the mail. They rank the top 20 reality shows. AI came in 6th! The shows that beat AI are as follows:

1 – Survivor
2- Amazing Race
3 – Osbournes
4- Project Runway
5 – The Real World

EW also lists Season 5 of AI as the best AI season EVAH!

“A deep, diverse field – Daughtry! Elliott! Paris! Kellie! – plus a lack of pimping from the judges cancelled out Taylor’s much-maligned win.”

I would put “Amazing Race” at number 1. :cool1_tb: And I’d have to agree with Season 5 being the best – but I wouldn’t cancel out Taylor’s win.

I never, ever got Taylor Hicks. What a bore. I loved Katherine McPhee. To hear that Taylor was supposed to revolutionize music, are you kidding me??? Ugly, boring, blehhh!!!! How funny to compare Adam to Taylor! Are you serious, or is it a really bad joke????

The comparison with Gerard Way is at least somewhat realistic.

I think Kelly borders on kind of ugly. I like her voice tho.

I think, like James Dean, Elvis has weathered the passing years better because he did die young. I did grow up with Elvis, saw his very first performance on the Ed Sullivan show when they filmed him from the waist up only. Yes Elvis was an icon but he had his problems with the press and the fans during his performance years. He did have an absolute amazing voice, and strange as it may seem (since I am very far from religious in any form, I loved his gospel songs better than anything…also his rich deep soulfull ballads.

Elvis went in and out of favor during his singing career. He even had several “comebacks” after his excrutiating battle with his weight and his drug addiction. During his “movie” years he was often thought of as “trite” since he basically played the same character over and over again, thanks to Colonel Parker.

Not to say that he isn’t an absolute icon…but sometimes the myth of Elvis is bigger than the reality. His “king” stature comes from the body of work that he left after he died…not always how he was perceived during the 25 years he performed.

I think Kelly borders on kind of ugly. I like her voice tho.

I think Kelly is a nice pretty girl, but I find her down home I’m a small town Texas girl who lives on a ranch a little off-putting. I like a performer that does “put herself together” when they are in front of an audience. She doesn’t have to Barbie Doll herself up like Carrie does, but a little glam is always nice when I’m paying to see someone in concert. And I think its respectful to your fans to spruce up when you are on talk shows etc.

She may be real comfortable with her plain Jane looks and clothes but I want a little more oomph from someone.

Tess: A little oomph is kinda good. I also think Carrie is way too “barbie doll”.

I think that is why I can’t get into her despite her amazing talent. Get dirty girl, where some holey jeans or something.

I was mean about Kelly’s looks. She is pretty. I guess I want the oomph…

Yeah sure, tell it to Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, and all those other non-sexy music stars.

I’ve liked some of Justin’s songs, but Justin the person? Does nothing for me. Nada. The nose, the facial hair … eh, not that attractive, imo. Now, Adam on the other hand is a very beautiful man. Very photogenic. Very sexy.

Frankly, I don’t see the comparisons to Taylor or Elvis. Yes, Taylor and Adam both stood out because they have oodles of stage presence and confidence and stood out by a mile in that department in comparison to everyone else, but that’s where the similarities end. There was nothing youthful about Taylor, nothing edgy, and when I go back and look at his youtube performances, I agree with Simon. They’re sort of wedding singerish to me. I don’t think anyone ever made that type of comment about any of Adam’s performances. Not even close. And Adam’s vocal range is far superior to Taylor’s. I mean, imagine for a moment Taylor singing with Queen or Taylor singing with KISS. Can you? At all? I can’t.

And Elvis? I don’t think anyone is saying Adam=Elvis. Only that Adam is perceived as having the pontential to be iconic, like Elvis. The potential, because he is that rare combination of talent, vocal prowess, and charisma in a sexy handsome package. The potential, not that its’s a sure thing, but potential, which is certainly an exciting thing.

By the way, I happen to think Taylor could still be very successful if he could parlay that likeability factor into something more appropriate to his talents. I don’t think there is a huge market for the style of music he wants to do, but if he could find a way to get back on weekly TV, he’d be a draw, imo.

EW also lists Season 5 of AI as the best AI season EVAH!

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“A deep, diverse field – Daughtry! Elliott! Paris! Kellie! – plus a lack of pimping from the judges cancelled out Taylorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s much-maligned win.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Undercooked – are you able to post a link to this? YAY for my fave idol season of all!!!

Regarding Kelly’s looks… I love her and I like that she’s comfortable with who she is. I don’t think she needs to change a thing.

I can’t remember what song Adam sang, but they had slicked his emo looking hair into Elvis looking hair. I hated when they did that. I thought he looked like an Elvis impersonator like you see in Vegas or Six Flags or something. I like his emo look. I didn’t want people to think he’s trying channel Elvis or something. He’s Adam Lambert, and that’s awesome.

That video of Adam à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  God have mercy. That one made me very nervous, and I agree that he should get a very large bodyguard ASAP. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m glad Quween was there!

Yes, I agree. Adam really shouldn’t be alone in parking garages with those parazzi. Adam hire a bodygaurd.

And Clayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans compared him to Elvis and the Beatles when he first got off Idol, too. Yadda yadda. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s unfortunate when fans compare a new singer to an icon like Elvis. It really turns off reasonably people.

The difference is that if you read the comments on some of the Adam articles, it is Elvis fans saying that Adam reminds them of Elvis — and they are now Adam fans.

Also, only a few OTT fans are saying Adam is the new Elvis. I’m not an Elvis fan (before my time) but I can see the similarities.

Regarding the comparisons of Adam to Taylor — I don’t get this one. Unless this is people trying to say that they think that Adam won’t be successful. Taylor was entertaining but he didn’t bring anything new to the music or the performance. And there was nothing contemporary about his music. He was alway like extremely good karaoke to me. Simon got this one right.

I bet what happen to Kat after the young hollywood awards will happen to Adam Lambert.People expect to much.Adam is the new elvis really? Elvis would be rolling around in grave if he heard that.People expect to much and IF people keep on doing that they wont like his album lol.

I really don’t see the relationship here, just because the same organization is giving Adam an award.

They’re even giving Adam a different award. Anyway Kat is putting together a very successful acting career.

Adam has worn his hair slicked back at times, previous to Idol. He does his hair differently for different moods. If he’s singing classical music or music like Tracks of My Tears, it just seems to set the tone more than his emo look. I am a big fan of season 5 and Taylor. They had a Queen week in season 5 and I remember they really liked Taylor. He wanted to sing We Are The Champions, but changed to Not Fade Away as he wanted to dance and move. Taylor was pleasantly surprised that Simon gave him a standing O after his performance on AI this years and even told him backstage that he liked the song. Simon was brutal to Taylor at times during season 5 but Paula and Randy liked him. I hate Adam comparison, as I just want Adam to be Adam and become a real star because of it.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s unfortunate when fans compare a new singer to an icon like Elvis. It really turns off reasonably people.

Thank you, Oceana for making it clear that no one recently has achieved the type of status ICON and has the wonderful voice like Elvis. There were only two that came mildly close. When NEIL DIAMOND first came out, many music critics compared him to Elvis. He was Rock ‘n Roll those early years. The other is Michael Jackson. ‘Nuff said.

I am so happy to hear that Anthony and Diana will be working together; however, I would be so disappointed if I couldn’t hear her sing. Anthony has a gorgeous voice and is still booked to sing the National Anthem. I hope they both get more work!

LU

undercooked – are you able to post a link to this? YAY for my fave idol season of all!!!

Here you go. It’s just a couple of paragraphs, but it’s still nice to see.

http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20282498_20282501_20282998_14,00.html

On Tuesday night, David will be performing at the Gala for the Children Uniting Nations 4th Annual Conference in Washington, D.C. The performance will take place at the U.S. Department of State, in the Benjamin Franklin Diplomatic Reception Room. David will perform à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Angelsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Prayer to Children.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Every year you get OTT fans who compare their faves to legends. Having said that, I think Adam is comparable to Elvis… in the looks department. Sometimes he looks quite a bit like him and that has been brought up outside of AI fandom. I don’t see what’s odd about that.

Hoping this gets seen.

The top 20 SYTYCD’ers did a photo shoot for ET

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/06/74994/index.html?photo=1

Evan got a haircut, Phillip needs to burn that jumper, Asuka looks like a 19th century prostitute, Maksim looks pudgy(?), and Brandon looks adorable!

Clay = geekdom. Taylor Hicks = hicksville.

Neil Diamond= ugh. Michael J. = perv.

Give me something cool compared to the above (I’ll excuse MJ due to his mental instability).

Adam is Adam… no comparison necessary. I think the comparisons come from people who see the amazing talent in him.

I never, ever got Taylor Hicks. What a bore. I loved Katherine McPhee. To hear that Taylor was supposed to revolutionize music, are you kidding me??? Ugly, boring, blehhh!!!!

Apparently you’ve never seen Taylor in a live show. He is very far from boring — one of the most entertaining performances I’ve ever seen. Now Katharine is boring to me.

“I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t remember what song Adam sang, but they had slicked his emo looking hair into Elvis looking hair. I hated when they did that. I thought he looked like an Elvis impersonator like you see in Vegas or Six Flags or something. I like his emo look. I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want people to think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s trying channel Elvis or something. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Adam Lambert, and thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s awesome.”

Adam reallydoesn’t look like Elvis. And I agree with Paula, the slicked back hair really showed off his pretty face. Don’t worry, Adam is in no way Elvis. Adam is Adam all the way and that is incredibly awesome!!!

iluvai Jun 6th, 2009 at 12:48 am

Adam is Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ no comparison necessary. I think the comparisons come from people who see the amazing talent in him.

Both of my older sisters (one of whom met Elvis when he was just starting to become famous) and a friend’s step-mother who is an Elvis fanatic all said that Adam reminds them of Elvis. I can see in some performances a facial expression or the way he will look at the camera which reminds me of the special I saw of Elvis on his first “come back” in like 1969 or 1970 when he was on the stage surrounded by people and dressed in all black leather. But to me Adam is Adam and there is no need to compare him to anyone.

linsav: Don’t get me wrong– Adam has the complete allure of Elvis. I loved Elvis as a little kid. But yeah, Adam is Adam and yet he is extremely tantalizing like Elvis. Different dudes, hot charisma!!! equals our pleasure…..

“I Feel bad that David isnt selling.I was a David fan but you wont see him at a Demi Shitty Lovato concert ever.He should of toured with someone else.

I bet what happen to Kat after the young hollywood awards will happen to Adam Lambert.People expect to much.Adam is the new elvis really? Elvis would be rolling around in grave if he heard that.People expect to much and IF people keep on doing that they wont like his album lol.”

I don’t know what MJ allows in terms of comments, but there are a lot of Adam fans out there. Sorry to burst your bubble. Also, I love Kat (beautiful talent), and I don’t think Adam fans are about to bail on him anytime soon.

Adam and Kat won’t be signing on with Disney. That’s a relief…..

The same can be said for Sinatra, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s now another Icon. At the time he came on the scene my mother and her friends thought he was a greasy scum bag. The passage of time changes everything.

Greasy? Really? Because of his Italian-American heritage?

Nobody in my family thought that about Sinatra at the time. In fact, my mom skipped school and waited for hours to catch a glimpse of him once.

Of course, she loved Italian Americans. She married one. .

Nobody in my family thought that about Sinatra at the time. In fact, my mom skipped school and waited for hours to catch a glimpse of him once.

Of course, she loved Italian Americans. She married one. .

I swear, I think my grandmother married my grandfather because he resembled Sinatra. That’s about the only thing that makes sense. He was an Irish Catholic with a bit of Ashkenazi Jew and Native American in him!

We need more role models in pop culture like Kelly and Jordan, who don’t have the perfect Barbie doll body and face. They are talented, confident, and nice people. We need more women like that.

erinnthered Jun 6th, 2009 at 1:52 am

Nobody in my family thought that about Sinatra at the time. In fact, my mom skipped school and waited for hours to catch a glimpse of him once.

Of course, she loved Italian Americans. She married one. .

I swear, I think my grandmother married my grandfather because he resembled Sinatra. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s about the only thing that makes sense. He was an Irish Catholic with a bit of Ashkenazi Jew and Native American in him!

Well, I married an Irish/Italian. Heh. Sorry, but I think he’s pretty great and we both love Sinatra! lol.

ETA: I know that’s pretty random. Oh well.

A lot of people donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t realize that the rating system in this country is based only on 5,000 people who have a Neilson rating box in their home and another 5,000 people who fill out weekly diaries and mail to Neilson. Most of these boxes and weekly diaries are in middle America. We will never know how many people watch a particular T.V. show when it is based only on 10,000 people.

You cannot compare 2008 ratings to prior years because the conversion from paper diaries (manual) to meters (electronic automatic) has resulted in a significant drop in ratings à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  Neilsen says 8%, in South Florida 50% of the AI audience vanished from 2008 to 2009 (then converted to meters in October 2008.) Neilsen is being sued by the Miami Fax affiliate for $30 million in lost ad revenue due to the ratings drop.

Listen to these excuses being made! Look, the ratings were indisputably down. Down SIGNIFICANTLY. As much as much of the media tried to force-feed the country Greatest. American. Idol. Contestant. Ever…. the majority of the country said, “hmm… not interested– no thanks!”

America didn’t tune in to watch him or anyone else this year in record numbers, except perhaps in record-low numbers. And the audience that did watch didn’t even vote for him in the end.

When posters who have been around for a while are saying these over-the-top predictions that are being made about Adam are nothing new in Idol fandom, they know what they are talking about. Chris Daughtry and David Cook were going to revolutionize rock music. David Archuleta would be a young Josh Groban. And so on with Clay Aiken, Bo Bice, etc. You can even fans out there that convinced Jason Castro will yet be the next great folk artist.

Some unsolicited advice for the Fanberts out there in cyberspace (not to mention in the press). Take a breath. Or a pill if necessary. Enjoy your man and hope a few years from now he still has a recording deal, that he’s had good sales numbers on more than just his first album, and that his songs are still heard at a decent clip on radio. Because that’s more success than the majority of Idol-spawned artists get….

When posters who have been around for a while are saying these over-the-top predictions that are being made about Adam are nothing new in Idol fandom, they know what they are talking about. Chris Daughtry and David Cook were going to revolutionize rock music. David Archuleta would be a young Josh Groban. And so on with Clay Aiken, Bo Bice, etc. You can even fans out there that convinced Jason Castro will yet be the next great folk artist.

Hmmm, some of these things are yet to be seen, imho. I actually kinda think we need to see what happens with the ones from S7. Maybe no revolution, but I think they all still have an opportunity to be pretty solid in the industry.

Kelly isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t fat but we live in a weight obsessed country where women who look like 12 year old boys with breast augmentations are considered sexy. If Marilyn Monroe was 118 lbs, then the cameras back then added at least 20 lbs. easily.

We live in strange times. The popular ideal for women is scarily thin and unhealthy. At the same time, we are in the midst of an obesity epidemic, with 35.3% of US women age 20 and over being classified as obese (according to the CDC). That’s 1 in 3 women being not just ordinarily overweight (BMI of 25-29.9) — but obese (BMI of 30 )! (The men are not far behind, BTW.)

With that in mind, I’m not sure I’m willing to follow peeps who are saying “right on” to Kelly and saying that she looks fine the way she is and that she’s a healthy weight. I do think Kelly is overweight. She’s not obese . . . yet IMO, but she is not at a healthy weight. Not saying she should be a stick by any stretch of the imagination, but in the rush to condemn celebrities who are too thin, we shouldn’t go to the other extreme and not call a spade a spade when we see it and pretend she’s at a healthy weight. I’m not saying that Kelly shouldn’t continue to be a role model for Grrl Power! and being down to earth, or for that matter, that the jokes are deserved, but yeah, she’s overweight. There’s no question in my mind about that.

On Tuesday night, David will be performing at the Gala for the Children Uniting Nations 4th Annual Conference in Washington, D.C. The performance will take place at the U.S. Department of State, in the Benjamin Franklin Diplomatic Reception Room. David will perform à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Angelsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Prayer to Children.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I’d dearly love to hear David sing “Prayer for the Children.” Is it bad that I’m hoping for video?

On Tuesday night, David will be performing at the Gala for the Children Uniting Nations 4th Annual Conference in Washington, D.C. The performance will take place at the U.S. Department of State, in the Benjamin Franklin Diplomatic Reception Room. David will perform à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Angelsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Prayer to Children.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

GAH! I hope someone records this…..

Maybe no revolution, but I think they all still have an opportunity to be pretty solid in the industry.

I utterly agree. They do have the “opportunity to be pretty solid in the industry”. But, nobody’s changing the face of rock and roll… or pop. Cook’s a, so far, pretty succesful commercial rocker. Daughtry’s an extremely successful commercial rocker. Archie’s, so far, a moderately succesful popster. Jordin Sparks is a more successful popster.

Then, if we go to the top of the Idol foodchain, Kelly’s a superstar pop-rocker (or was) and Carrie’s a superstar country performer. And after those six, that about rounds out the Idols who still retain mainstream musical relevance. (and Cook and Archie haven’t proven yet that they will still be relevant by their second time around).

The ranks used to be fuller and include Clay, Ruben, and Fantasia, who between them sold almost seven million debut albums. And Elliot, to his credit, went gold with an indie. But, none of them really matter in terms of the “contemporary music scene” anymore.

And among the lesser country lights (than Carrie), Kellie Pickler is trying to ride Taylor Swift’s back so she can prolong her career a little while longer. And then there’s Bucky and Josh who sold a respectable amount of records in their first eras, but neither of them are really doing much either these days it seems.

However, the real point is that none of them has “revolutionized” anything. They’ve had varying degrees of success in their markets, and a few of them have become established names in their field of music. But, nobody on this list has transcended their field to become some sort of “icon”.

I know, I know– but Adam Lambert is different! He crossed boundaries and broke conventions that nobody had before…. Well, no, that’s not true either. What he did is follow in the footsteps of the line of Idols that deviated from what had been the “normative” mold(s) of contestant. It began with Bo, or arguably Fantasia, continued with Taylor and Chris, followed with Blake, and was carried on by Cook. Adam simply built upon their foundations.

And, as said, every single type of hyperbolic proclamation and prognostication about Adam that is bouncing around the fandom universe and the pop-cultural zeitgeist was made about those who came before him. Seriously, search the comments sections in the archives on this blog, any other Idol forum, or any fan site on the web. There is nothing new under the sun in the Idolverse… or its permeation into the glut of the entertainment media industry either, for that matter.

But, I can’t fault the Glamberts too much for their histrionic passion. After all, they are just the latest victims of the same syndrome that infected the “Claymates”, the “Bison”, the “Daughtries”, the “Soul Patrol”, the “Blaker Girls”, “Archies”, the “Word Nerds” etc.

They don’t call Simon Fuller the “Mad Genius” for no reason. Because every year through a brilliant marketing vehicle called “American Idol” he takes talent, packages it, markets it, and all the while makes fans believe they are the ones who actually discovered it(!) so he can continue to sell and resell it to them over and over and over again in the future.

Bravo, chap! Bravo!

We live in a world that is all about experlatives: the best, the greatest, the most beautiful, the most talented, etc. We have been so conditioned, through advertising, to think in grandiose terms and expressions…it has become the norm. I think it is human nature and OK to go over the top when expressing oneself, it is just an opinion (unless your O’Reilly and his every thought is an absolute fact). There are times I want to be the rah-rah cheerleader and declare my team #1, even though they have never won a game, because at that moment, in my heart, that is where they are.

Realistically I think that many of us know that we are spitting out drivel when we exalt someone who has come to mean a lot to us….but it’s fun and harmless, exciting and stimulating. When I use words like I think, I feel that is precisely what I mean and I like living in that wonderful bubble of optimism. I know it isn’t “realistic” but there are times I don’t want to be realistic and pragmatic. So for me I’ll use all the OTT expressions I can find to exhalt my boy and I will predict great things for him. Whether they come true or not isn’t important for me…the fun of the journey is.

David Archuleta would be a young Josh Groban.

Funny thing is that David never wanted to be a young Josh Groban. It is what some people wanted for him.

noctem seizure

It began with Bo, or arguably Fantasia, continued with Taylor and Chris, followed with Blake, and was carried on by Cook.

Nicely said. BTW, Jennifer Hudson’s a success, too. There is this success by former AIers as well–from Wikipedia:

” * Tamyra Gray – Mimi in Rent, Priya in Bombay Dreams
* Vanessa Olivarez – Tracy Turnblad in Hairspray (Toronto)
* Clay Aiken – Sir Robin in Monty Python’s Spamalot
* LaToya London – Nettie in The Color Purple (National Tour)
* Diana DeGarmo – Penny Pingleton in Hairspray, Brooklyn in Brooklyn (National Tour)
* Fantasia Barrino – Celie in The Color Purple
* Constantine Maroulis – Sammy in The Wedding Singer, Drew in Rock Of Ages
* Anthony Federov – Matt in The Fantasticks (Off-Broadway)
* Ace Young – Kenickie in Grease
* Taylor Hicks – Teen Angel in Grease
* Ruben Studdard in Fats Waller’s Ain’t Misbehavin (National Tour)
* Frenchie Davis – Seasons of Love soloist in Rent and a performer in Fats Waller’s Ain’t Misbehavin (National Tour)
* Josh Strickland – Disney’s Tarzan
* Anwar Robinson – Tom Collins in Rent
* Trenyce – a performer in Fats Waller’s Ain’t Misbehavin (National Tour)
* Amy Adams – The Narrator in Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat (National Tour)”

For me– I will go see Bo Bice, Taylor Hicks, and Kris Allen any time I am near where they are playing in concert. For me that’s contemporary music. There is so much that is also contemporary music that doesn’t interest me in the slightest.

Keel
I do think Kelly is overweight. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not obese . . . yet IMO, but she is not at a healthy weight.

What does Kelly weigh and what do you think she should weigh? IMO she looks fine and don’t forget that the camera adds weight.

Adam can stand still in front of a mic, wear a plain shirt and jeans, and he would still wow me with just his singing. How many men can sing a rock like he can (Whole Lotta Love), an R&B (A Change is Gonna come), ballad (take your pick), opera (from Brigadoon), scale it down (Tracks), emotional (Mad World). Adam was really, really incredible in every one of those genres. I don’t think he gets enough credit for his amazing talent.

Oops, my hubs just came into the room, and I wasn’t finished. I believe it is Adam’s amazing talent, and not because he is “different” that he is shaking up the country. On the AI forum, when people heard Adam in the auditions, he was this cute, charming (normal looking) boy. They started searching him on Youtube and discovered his mad vocals from Wicked, Upright Cabaret to the Zodiac shows. They already had him labeled as the best they’ve ever seen/heard, and I was was of them.

Keel
I do think Kelly is overweight. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not obese . . . yet IMO, but she is not at a healthy weight.

What does Kelly weigh and what do you think she should weigh? IMO she looks fine and donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t forget that the camera adds weight.

According to the BMI calculator, at 5’4″ (she’s actualy 5’3.5″), a healthy weight for her (depending on her body type) is between 110-145 lbs. No way she’s anywhere close to 145 lbs. Again, all I’m saying is that she’s overweight, not obese — but I hate our pretending that overweight is the new healthy weight just because the prevalence of obesity has increased alarmingly over the past 20 years. Overweight may be the new normal based purely on statistics but it just isn’t healthy.

Demi Lovato is so beneath David Archuleta, it isn’t even funny. And to point out that it’s “David’s” concert is ridiculous. David sold out 22/23 of his US solo tour dates and all Asian dates. He was also an opener for a hugely popular UK tour with McFly. I don’t get the “controversy” here. It’s not David, it’s Demi. Clearly.

BTW, Jennifer Hudsonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a success, too.

Yes, she is. That was a bad oversight on my part.

I was less inclined to say that she had mainstream musical relevance when her “success” was merely defined by her Oscar. I consider those who are making it as major recording artists to be in a different category of success (because the stated purpose of Idol is to produce recording stars) than those who have other types of success after the show.

For example, I’m not going to put Kimberly Caldwell on the A-List of Idol successes if she somehow won an emmy for her television hosting! In a similar vein, Constantine doesn’t deserve that distinction to me if he wins his Tony.

But, this was before J-Hud’s gold album and Grammy– even if there were “circumstances” that influenced the latter. Just keeping it real by acknowledging that– I’m NOT gonna hate on her if the voting panel was a little inclined to be favorable toward her after the heinous atrocity that she suffered….

To Mom in the Suburbs: – no I’m going to Charlotte on 8/1. I do think Adam is from another planet ) – humans don’t sing like that. But he sure looks human enough! Can hardly wait – got my T-shirt “Don’t blame me – I voted fo Adam Lambert” & 2 Adam buttons & I’ll have my nails done the day before (black of course). Thanks!

To Noctem Seizure: I don’t think I’m a “victim” of anything. Adam Lambert is different than any of the people you’ve mentioned, in my opinion, purely from a vocal talent standpoint, not factoring in looks, performance, personality. It’s the voice. I’m a singer. I have a wonderful singing teacher whom I’ve been blessed to take lessons with for 7 years. We are in complete agreement – it’s the voice. Everything else surrounds that. And part of my “histrionics” regarding Adam since he “lost” is that he has been attacked so viciously by so many people. Why is that, I wonder? Was Clay attacked that way? Was David Cook attacked? Jennifer Hudson or Kelly Clarkson or Carrie Underwood? Don’t think so. The reason Adam has been so villified is that a) he is in fact quite different and b) he is WAY more talented than any of the people you’ve mentioned. Sorry, but in my opinion it’s true. Finally, I hear in your writing the assumption that the United States is the only country on earth. Adam Lambert is not going to be loved in just this country, he is going to be a worldwide star. That’s my prediction and I’m sticking to it. And I haven’t been wrong about too many things in my 54 years.

And finally, I need to “weigh” in on the question of Kelly’s weight. We, as a society, are weight-obsessed beyond belief. I am so tired of seeing People magazine with covers of people who have lost this or that amount of weight. WHO CARES?? Can the girl sing? Leave her alone. Go calculate someone else’s BMI. She’ll lose weight when and if she is ready.

To Noctem Seizure: I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“victimà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  of anything. Adam Lambert is different than any of the people youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve mentioned, in my opinion, purely from a vocal talent standpoint, not factoring in looks, performance, personality. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the voice. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a singer. I have a wonderful singing teacher whom Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been blessed to take lessons with for 7 years. We are in complete agreement – ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the voice. Everything else surrounds that. And part of my à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“histrionicsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  regarding Adam since he à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“lostà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  is that he has been attacked so viciously by so many people. Why is that, I wonder? Was Clay attacked that way? Was David Cook attacked? Jennifer Hudson or Kelly Clarkson or Carrie Underwood? Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think so. The reason Adam has been so villified is that a) he is in fact quite different and b) he is WAY more talented than any of the people youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve mentioned. Sorry, but in my opinion ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s true.

Your post epitomizes the saying “mileage may mary”….

Personally, when I think of talent, I think it incorporates much more than a superior voice (and Adam vocally superior to Kelly and J-Hud? Ooookay then….) Besides vocal talent, it also includes musicianship, song composing, lyrics writing, emotional conection, and performance skills.

Adam has the first item and the last. Well, two out of six ain’t bad, I guess….

On the other hand, look at a Bo Bice or David Cook. They represent what we can call the “total package”….

Wow, I like a good debate. Here we go:

“our post epitomizes the saying à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“mileage may maryà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

Personally, when I think of talent, I think it incorporates much more than a superior voice (and Adam vocally superior to Kelly and J-Hud? Ooookay thenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.) Besides vocal talent, it also includes musicianship, song composing, lyrics writing, emotional conection, and performance skills.

Adam has the first item and the last. Well, two out of six ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bad, I guessà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

On the other hand, look at a Bo Bice or David Cook. They represent what we can call the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“total packageà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

First, I’ve heard Bo Bice in person. Good but not overwhelming, in my opinion. TO be honest, not familiar with David Cook except that I heard him sing on the radio right after I had listened to Adam. Again, good but not overwhelming (to me). You list 6 aspects of “the total package”. I would argue right now that Adam has them all. Emotional connection? He had that for me. I have never seen someone put so much into a performance – the closest in my opinion was Tori Amos – I went to 3 of her concerts in 1996 – but I think she lost “edge” after that although I think she is touring now & a friend of mine is excited to be going to hear her in Chicago. Lyric writing & song composition? I would argue that’s not mandatory to be a star – did Elvis do it? – but I think Adam has that too & may be performing something original on the AI tour. Musicianship? Depends on what you like. I would recommend listening to the studio (audio) download of “Born to Be Wild”. Adam has taken what I hear in Muse’s “Black Holes and Revelations” (British band that he likes) and made something new and startling out of a standard rock song.

I have to go back to my singing teacher on this one. He describes American Idol (and that would include David & Bo) up to this point as “decent song, decent singer, sung decently”. He characterizes Adam as a “vocal blacksmith – takes a song, heats it up, pounds it into something new”. If that’s not “musicianship” I don’t know what musicianship is made of, then. He also characterizes Adam as “a vocal titan”. And my singing teacher is someone who is revered in Charleston and elsewhere for his knowledged, skills and dedication to teaching. Unfortunately, I can’t prove that – if you “google” him nothing comes up which surprised me, but I think that is because he works mostly behind the scenes with choirs in Chicago and Europe and singers throughout the world. You might look up Jose Lemos (countertenor). He has a website http://www.joselemos.com/.

Yes, I agree – it’s early for Adam. And yet it’s not – Adam has been singing for years and perfecting his skills. What he has experienced in AI is a breakthrough that was waiting for him and which he richly deserves. If the paparazzi don’t kill him, I think he will do for you what he said he would do for AI “I will surprise you”. And he did that. And I believe he will continue to do that. Obviously he is not your “cup of tea”. But he sure is mine.

Addendum: I live outside Charleston SC and that’s where my singing teacher is. Please note where Jose got his bachelor degree (College of Charleston). That’s the connection.

The finale aired at the same time as a big basketball playoff game. I know as I was in my bedroom watching Idol and my son and daughter were watching the Lakers in the livingroom.

A lot of people I know, myself included, who werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t avid AI watchers tuned in as word of Adam made its rounds at the office, etc.

A lot of people donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t realize that the rating system in this country is based only on 5,000 people who have a Neilson rating box in their home and another 5,000 people who fill out weekly diaries and mail to Neilson. Most of these boxes and weekly diaries are in middle America.

The basketball game doesn’t explain why ratings were down all season, though.

I fall into the category of people who weren’t avid AI watchers until this season, but I tuned in to see someone other than Adam, so there’s the same anecdotal evidence but for another contestant.

I don’t recall the exact number, but there are far more than 5K Neilson rating boxes. I’ll have a look round and see if I can scrounge up the data.

And I am not dissing Adam or trying to say he isn’t talented or isn’t a nice guy. I personally don’t get his appeal, don’t find him sexy or sexually attractive, don’t connect emotionally with his performances and don’t prefer his type of voice/presentation/style of music. For me he comes across as always performing the song but not feeling it. But that’s just me.

And the Elvis comparisons that keep flying around? No way.

Wow, I like a good debate. Here we go:

So do I. I will give you the fact that emotional connection is another case of “mileage varies”. So, let’s suppose I relent and concede that he does possess that ability.

That then makes him a:

1. talented vocalist
2. skilled performer
3. able to emotionally connect through his performances (arguably)

But, we know he doesn’t play an instrument. And please don’t come back with the argument that his voice is his instrument– there are plenty of performers who both sing AND play an instrument simultaneously.

And he has had some amateur song compositions which he may or may not have written the music or the lyrics to himself or. But, they’re nothing close to the level of Cook’s indie Analog Heart album or the songs he wrote in his other bands, not to mention the pre-Idol works of Bice, Daughtry, Michael Johns, and others.

Now when Adam’s album drops, we will see if how many writing or co-writing credits he will have. But, right now I’d say, even if I do concede emotional connection to him, he’s still working with only three out of the six aspects of “talent” I identified.

But, there are Idols who boast the complement of the full half-dozen elements. And that is what constitutes optimal talent, not just “vocal smithery” as you and your voice teacher seem to think.

Many opera singers don’t play an instrument, and if they do, they don’t perform on those instruments. And most do not write their own music – they perform the amazing repertoire that already exists. Their voice is their instrument. For me, they are absolutely “total packages”. Joyce DiDonato, Lorraine Hunt Lieberson (who did start her career as a violist), Juan Diego Florez, Susan Graham, Natalie Dessay, Maria Callas, to name but a few. But I can understand that they are not going to appeal to everyone. As Adam obviously is not going to appeal to everyone. What I don’t understand at all is the criticism from people like you and Danica regarding his talent nor do I understand what I perceive as questioning my taste/wisdom/sanity, or that of my teacher, in feeling astounded by him. Maybe I’m a bit overly sensitive in this regard but I go back to how incredibly viciously he has already been attacked by everyone from Clay Aiken to the “unknown” sources that accused him of being a “diva”. How incredibly rude of Clay to have made the statement “I thought my ears would bleed”. In my opinion, Adam is a genius and if all he ever did in his life was give us the performances that we saw on American Idol this season, that would be enough for me. Not to mention the studio version of “Born to Be Wild”. But I think there will be much more from him. I personally can hardly wait.

One more thing on the “emotional connection” angle – I’m a psychiatrist (I think I may not have mentioned that before now) – board-certified since 1995 and an MD since 1980. I just watched the video of the Kiss performance – at the end of the introduction by Adam of “Beth” there are tears in his eyes. I guess those could be fake e.g. acted but I don’t think so.