@DweezySignal: “Lee DeWyze is NOT performing at the S10 American Idol Finale. (Confirmed by management) He is also no longer scheduled to perform at the KISS Viewing Party in LA. (confirmed)” Hm.

@LeeDeWyze tweets, “Hey guys, no I’m not performing at the Finale. I wasn’t asked to . A lot of questions so I thought I’d fill you in. Talk to you soon.”

And…Lee’s brother Mike is really really angry.

The finale page is up on AmericanIdol.com. Check it!

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Rebecca Black turned out to be a hoax, but the Galleria might still be getting a visit from a pop star soon.

According to Chronicle technology columnist and blogger Dwight Silverman’s blog this afternoon, the former American Idol winner will perform at the Galleria’s brand-new Microsoft store on June 25, two days after it is scheduled to open.

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Aiken takes time for son, himself

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“For a lot of people, I’m frozen at 24 years old and for me, I’m not,” Aiken said during a recent interview. “I do find that if I spike my hair, I get recognized everywhere I go.”

Aiken described his run on the second season of “American Idol” in 2003 as the most fun he’s ever had, but he doesn’t miss the results shows.

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Milwaukee’s own Naima Adedapo was there rehearsing with other American Idol contestants and took out some time to chat with Anne State.

Adedapo tells us about her life at home, but won’t talk about which Idol finalists will win.

See the Video at FOX6NOW

David Cook rehearsing for his Walmart Soundcheck session today.

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By wide margins, the live talent show remains the top series on network television and the top series among younger demographics, from teens up to 18-49s. And records have been set in voting, although this is the first year to allow online in addition to cellphone votes.

Read more at Chicago Tribune

Marc Anthony: ‘American Idol’ Season 10 had best talent

Marc Anthony, the top-selling Salsa artist of all time and husband of “American Idol” judge Jennifer Lopez, is mum on who thinks will win, but he has been keeping close tabs on the show.

“That’s a tough one,” he tells Zap2it. “And it’s a tough one to answer. We have all seen it can go any way. I will reserve the right — I won’t comment on who I want.

“What I will say is the stable of talent this year is like none I have ever seen,” Anthony continues. “That is a testament to the new process.”

Read more at Zap2it

Sanjaya Malakar Releases Tempted

Former American Idol finalist Sanjaya Malakar drops his new single “Tempted” from his upcoming full length album Life ~ Love ~ Music. Sanjaya’s version is an R&B cover of the 1981 original pop song performed by Squeeze, and is produced by Larry Russell, former Billy Joel bass player and current New York City music producer at Muzikjakit Productions. “Tempted” will be available for purchase through iTunes and www.SanjayaMalakar.com on Tuesday, May 24, and through Amazon and most online retailers after June 1.

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America’s Got Talent host Nick Cannon emceed the event, encouraging the students and announcing special live performances. American Idol 4th place finisher and former LAUSD student, Allison Iraheta, also hit the red carpet at the event. Iraheta beamed, saying, “it’s really cool that all these students are here doing what I wanted to do at that age and they have the opportunity to go to the after school programs and do this.” She added, “It’s always great to be surrounded by so much talent.” Another big highlight of the day was a 2,000 person Flash Mob, in which students and even America’s Best Dance Crew winners Poerotics participated.

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  • smeggingnuts

    @DweezySignal: “Lee DeWyze is NOT performing at the S10 American Idol Finale. (Confirmed by management) He is also no longer scheduled to perform at the KISS Viewing Party in LA. (confirmed)” Hm.

    wow…I guess we are just days away from confirmation that Lee was dropped by his label….ouch

  • McCreerian

    Hmm, doesn’t the previous winner usually perform on finale night? That doesn’t look good for Lee.

    That must also mean there won’t be a “winners reunion” after all? Unless all of the winners except Lee are coming(kinda like how all of the winners except Cook came last season).

  • Trina

    Good grief even Taylor got to come back and perform on the finale.

  • CindyM

    That must also mean there won’t be a “winners reunion” after all? Unless all of the winners except Lee are coming(kinda like how all of the winners except Cook came last season).

    Is there one planned?? I didn’t think Kelly was attending either based on her tweets

  • blmetsfan

    Yikes, he’s probably been dropped. :(

  • idolfan92

    Darn I really wanted to see Lee on the finale! I hope this isn’t a bad sign. I’m going to his concert at the end of June.

  • SpenserJ

    Have they given a reason for Lee not performing? Could be impending label droppage – but I assume it’s equally possible that he could have something going on in his own life that makes it impossible for him to appear.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Ohh Lee. Another Idol tradition gone.

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  • suenigma

    I sure hope that this was Lee’s decision, because if not it is the biggest snub of a winning Idol EVER. Horrible, tacky decision by TPTB. I might just go buy his album now out of spite.

  • tripp_ncwy

    I don’t know what to say about the Lee situation considering this tweet from earlier today from one of the writers Lee & Kris have been working with.

    jamiehartman
    Finishing up the second of two massive @leedewyze songs today :) love it what a great singer

  • dy77

    My personal opinion – and I’m no Lee fan – but I feel this is really unfair to him and his fans. It is an Idol tradition to work last year’s winner into the results show performances. Plus to me, it’s one more example of Idol getting away from treating the winner like the winner – something I feel has contributed to the overall undermining of the Idol brand.

    Editing to add – if this is Lee’s decision, well then I guess it’s his decision. It would be good to know why he’s not performing. As far as the winners’ performing for 10th anniversary, hoping for this as a longtime Idol fan, but I guess if it does happen, we’re not getting them all.

  • idolfan92

    Lee himself tweeted today that he has a lot to look forward to lately. Why would he say this if he’s getting dropped? And still WHY is he not on the finale? Stupid Idol.

  • McCreerian

    I sure hope that this was Lee’s decision, because if not it is the biggest snub of a winning Idol EVER. Horrible, tacky decision by TPTB. I might just go buy his album now out of spite.

    I wonder if its a way of them giving a big “FU” to Simon Cowell for pushing the lowest selling winner last year.

  • kmd

    That news does not look good for Lee. I wondered why he wasn’t going to be at the KISS viewing party with Archie and Allison because he was scheduled to perform.

  • CindyM

    idolfan92 says:
    05/23/2011 at 7:24 pm

    Lee himself tweeted today that he has a lot to look forward to lately. Why would he say this if he’s getting dropped? And still WHY is he not on the finale? Stupid Idol.

    Damage control??

  • artemis

    Lee just tweeted:

    Hey guys, no I’m not performing at the Finale. I wasn’t asked to. A lot of questions so I thought I’d fill you in. Talk to you soon :)

  • ladymadonna

    This is ridiculously shoddy even by Idol TPTB standards.

  • blmetsfan

    Yikes!! Well, just goes with the whole ‘winning doesn’t matter anymore.’

  • suenigma

    I cannot believe that if they were going to drop him that they wouldn’t have waited until after this Idol Season had ended. Although it could be Sony/RCA giving a big FU valentine to 19 and Interscope.

  • Eyeswideshut2

    I’m not a Lee fan, but I cannot imagine TPTB would exclude him in such a blatant way (even if the label planned on dropping him, on which I have no opinion either way). It would reflect very badly on them and the Idol brand. And evil though they are, they do care about PR. My money is on some external and unpredictable circumstance preventing Lee from performing. Or some kind of behind the scenes spat that got so ugly that Lee decided to pull out.

    ETA: Wow, was I ever wrong. And wow again. I can’t believe how shoddy TPTB are acting.

  • kmd

    I was not a Lee fan but that’s not right that he is not at the finale.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    It’s interesting that Lee also did not appear at the Walk of Fame event. Cook and Kris were both there, but Lee as the last winner was missing. We have no idea what’s really happening with Lee. Maybe the label is really about to drop him. Lee has already appeared on season 10, he performed his second single that didn’t get an adds date. I think it’s clear he and RCA are done.

    I do think TPTB are happy that they don’t have to remind the viewers how boring season 9 was.

    I wonder if its a way of them giving a big “FU” to Simon Cowell for pushing the lowest selling winner last year.

    Eh, none one in season 9 TOP 12 had much potential for big sales. I don’t think Simon tried to sabotage Idol.

  • blmetsfan

    Lauren Alaina and Scotty McCreery will sing three songs on the final American Idol competition show Tuesday (8 p.m. Eastern/7 p.m. Central, FOX) – one of them chosen by their own personal musical idols. Idol’s fourth-season winner, Carrie Underwood, has chosen a song for Lauren, and Country Music Hall of Famer George Strait has picked one for Scotty.

    In addition, both teens will sing their favorite song from the season. They’ll also perform their debut single, chosen for them by the Idol producers.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/idolchatter/post/2011/05/carrie-underwood-george-strait-picking-finale-songs-for-idols/1

  • suenigma

    Unfreakingbelieable! It is taking all of my willpower not to send Nigel a scathing tweet. And I’m not even a big Lee fan, beyond thinking he seems like a great guy and has a lovely vocal tone. Rocco is going to have a fit!

  • smeggingnuts

    idolfan92 says:
    05/23/2011 at 7:24 pm
    Lee himself tweeted today that he has a lot to look forward to lately. Why would he say this if he’s getting dropped? And still WHY is he not on the finale? Stupid Idol.

    maybe he is stuck overseas and can’t get back. I think he got arrested for smuggling drugs in his weird chin facial hair thing.

  • Trina

    He wasnt even asked? That’s some serious bullshit. Doesnt 19 manage him? If I were him I’d seek out new management.

  • artemis

    Lee has said before that he will be at the Finale, not that he would be performing on the Finale.

    I don’t think that this has anything to do with RCA; I’m sure it’s Nigel’s decision not to give 4 minutes to the current Idol that could go to another guest star with music to promote.

  • Incipit

    Lee just tweeted:

    Hey guys, no I’m not performing at the Finale. I wasn’t asked to. A lot of questions so I thought I’d fill you in. Talk to you soon

    Wow. That’s a radical departure from nine years of Idol tradition.

    Lee wasn’t asked?

    Obviously, Idol PTB can change the procedures whenever they want, however they want – it’s their wheel, but after nine years, I hope TPTB are ready to get some pointy questions about this one.

  • leome

    So he wasn’t even asked. I didn’t expect them to do that.
    Even if he’s being dropped, I don’t think that should have anything to do with idol. He’s still the reigning idol, with or without label he should be there singing.

  • suenigma

    Eyeswideshut2, Lee tweeted that he was never even asked! So I guess TPTB are just that blatant and evil. Hard though it is to believe.

  • smeggingnuts

    I wonder if this has to do with the change from labels away from Sony.

  • musicality

    That doesn’t seem right. It’s sending a message. Every season they’ve had the idol & runner up perform on the finale. It helps to give them a boost.

  • Eyeswideshut2

    Eyeswideshut2, Lee tweeted that he was never even asked! So I guess TPTB are just that blatant and evil. Hard though it is to believe.

    I saw that right after my post went through *shakes fist at interwebz*. Have to admit – still finding it hard to get my head around that. Like, seriously?

  • pattycake

    Even if RCA dropped hiim, he should still perform on the show. He is the reigning idol and if the TPTB refuses to acknowledge their present idol on their finale, its very low class and refects poorly of their view of their prior contestants/winners. Not a Lee fan, but the TPTB should embrace all their winners as their whole premise is their judges found them and allowed America to pick their favorite.

  • Trina

    Doesnt matter that he never said he would be performing, I think most people just assumed he would be since its been a tradition for ALL winners. Like i said, even Taylor Hicks who was crapped on by Idol got to do that much.

  • brittneybabyy

    Wow. Whether you like Lee or not, this is stupid. I personally liked Lee last season. Even though if he didn’t sell well and Season 9 was the worst ever, this is tradition. You don’t just NOT ask the previous winner to come back — it’s like passing on the torch! That’s freaking ridiculous, I can’t believe it. TPTB have some explaining to do, seriously. You don’t snub last year’s winner. They best have a good reason.

  • Eileen99

    Not a Lee fan, but I think Idol not asking Lee to perform on the Finale stinks.

  • OiWithThePoodles

    @MikeDeWyze American idol producers have no respect.. that is all.. serious b.s.

  • SpenserJ

    I wonder if this has to do with the change from labels away from Sony.

    Probably. I guess at this point, they must feel they have nothing to gain from having Lee on. Sadly, I wonder if anyone but those of us in the bubble will even notice his absence?

  • Incipit

    Every season they’ve had the idol & runner up perform on the finale.

    Musicality, the tradition is just for the previous year’s winner to perform at the Finale – not the runner-up.

    Who knows what the thought process is on this one? Maybe they need more time for the Black Eyed Peas.

    (That is facetious – because they are ubiquitous)

    IMO. Of Course. Can we have a Vegetable Moratorium?

  • songsungblue

    I think they can do whatever they want. Out with the old, and all that. And he DID perform this season. I guess Crystal won’t be there either. Sniff.

  • girlygirl

    I’m not a Lee fan, but this is just wrong. Every other former winner has performed on the following year’s finale, whether they had sold oodles of CDs/singles or not. The guy is the reigning Idol, give him his freaking 3 minutes of tv time

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  • tripp_ncwy

    If Lee is not performing at the finale, I wonder what the finale meeting Kris had Friday was all about.

    The previous winner usually performs for the final time as the champ and gives away the Ford cars to the two finalist.

  • SpenserJ

    Who knows what the thought process is on this one? Maybe they need more time for the Black Eyed Peas.

    (That is facetious – because they are ubiquitous)

    Fergie told people magazine she’s ready to start a family. So, I’m hoping an impending pregnancy will give us at least one BEP-free awards show season :).

    So, I guess it’s safe to assume Crystal isn’t showing up either. Or, did we already know she wasn’t coming? I’m finding it hard to keep up!

  • smeggingnuts

    musicality says:
    05/23/2011 at 7:40 pm
    That doesn’t seem right. It’s sending a message. Every season they’ve had the idol & runner up perform on the finale. It helps to give them a boost.

    Have they had the runners up perform on the finale? I don’t remember that being the case. Granted don’t know alot about past seasons.

    I think this fits in with what most of this season was spectical. They broke alot of traditions in favor of spectical. And sorry to Lee but he isn’t entertaining to watch. Though with as someone put it the “Hee Haw” twins as the Top 2 I there isn’t alot of spectical left….so the other performances are going to be out there I think.

    Sucks for Lee but they are running a TV show not a charity and as unfair as it is….the entertainment work isn’t lollipops and gumdrops.
    Still sucks for Lee :(

  • standtotheright

    Yeah, not a fan at all, but this is appalling treatment of the guy. He won; he’d earned one more moment in the sun before all of this (apparently) faded away.

    Sadly, I wonder if anyone but those of us in the bubble will even notice his absence?

    I think between U2 and Gaga and every other bell and whistle planned for Wednesday evening, the producers are counting on the fact that people won’t. Sigh.

  • Pam

    I’m not a Lee fan either but this is wrong. Like Trina said, we all know how the show felt about Taylor but even he got the opportunity to come back on season 6 and perform. This does stink.

  • SpenserJ

    If Lee is not performing at the finale, I wonder what the finale meeting Kris had Friday was all about.

    Maybe Kris will give them the Fords, and we’re all supposed to pretend Season 9 never happened.

  • suenigma

    Who knows what the thought process is on this one? Maybe they need more time for the Black Eyed Peas.

    Incipit, you are freaking me out! I was just going to send a tweet to Nigel telling him it was a douche move, and asking him if he needed more time so that the Black Eyed Peas could perform. I swear to God!

  • jersey

    I’d be surprised if it had to do with Lee being on RCA. So is David Cook and he has the frickin’ boot song. None of the idols that they have had on all season are on the new record label.

  • J9BT

    tripp_ncwy says:

    05/23/2011 at 7:49 pm

    If Lee is not performing at the finale, I wonder what the finale meeting Kris had Friday was all about.

    The previous winner usually performs for the final time as the champ and gives away the Ford cars to the two finalist.

    I wonder if Lee will be giving the cars away.

    I don’t see how this has to do with changing to Interscope with first & foremost this is a show for fans, and just last year the fans voted Lee in as their winner.

    I agree w/girlygirl – I’m not a huge fan of Lee’s, but this isn’t right. I don’t agree with it.

  • CindyM

    Wow, he wasn’t asked?? So it’s not that he’s got something else going on…

    LeeDewyze
    Hey guys, no I’m not performing at the Finale. I wasn’t asked to . A lot of questions so I thought I’d fill you in. Talk to you soon :) 30 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

  • Willis

    Maybe they had to drop him off the show to make room for another Black Eyed Peas performance? Dancing Robots > Chin Scruff. Or, anyone non-Universal goes to the back of the line.

  • luly

    I think that it’s ridiculous and unfair towards Lee that he was never asked to perform on the final. This is a tradition and I think he should have performed regardless of how he did post idol.

  • stay4awhile

    Typical bullshit that Lee gets to deal with. Honestly, as a Lee fan, I don’t know how I didn’t see this coming. Beyond disappointed.

  • http://justalittlespace.blogspot.com ClaireC

    Not a Lee fan, but even to me that seems pretty cold. Idol does have a history of rewriting history and throwing people under the bus to suit themselves, but come on, even though Lee’s record tanked he DID win American Idol. I thought this was pretty much a guaranteed gig.

  • Dlynne

    Just one more reason for me watch something else on Tuesday and Wednesday.

    Lee has shown nothing but respect for American Idol and he does not deserve to be treated this way in return.

  • Incipit

    I was just going to send a tweet to Nigel telling him it was a douche move, and asking him if he needed more time so that the Black Eyed Peas could perform. I swear to God!

    Heh. suenigma, I believe you – it’s actually a logical assumption, with the track record of their appearances.

    Does Interscope manage that group or something? Or Maybe they just have incriminating pictures. *snerk* It isn’t because they are ‘that’ good. IMO.

  • standtotheright

    I wonder if Lee will be giving the cars away.

    I suspect not. They might have Iovine do it as part of his “not an asshole” edit. Too little too late, but undoubtedly they’ll try some rehabilitation on him.

  • Trina

    David getting the boot song was all Simon Fuller’s doing though, nothing to do with RCA. When you have him in your corner I dont think RCA, Interscope or Nigel carry much weight when it comes to an Idol slot.

    I wonder though why that viewing party isnt happening now either?

    The previous winner giving away the cars is actually something that only started in season 8, in previous years Ryan handed them the keys.

  • suenigma

    Smegginnuts: Sucks for Lee but they are running a TV show not a charity and as unfair as it is….the entertainment work isn’t lollipops and gumdrops.
    Still sucks for Lee

    I disagree, I think it sucks for Idol. The Idol media is going to be up in arms about this, and I think that they will loose a lot of respect from the majority of viewers who voted for him last year (even if those votes didn’t ultimately translate into album sales). If I was a former Idol, even a biggie like Carrie or Kelly, I would think that it was a pretty douche move as well. I hope Kelly writes a scathing blog or letter about this. LOL

  • SpenserJ

    I’d be surprised if it had to do with Lee being on RCA. So is David Cook and he has the frickin’ boot song. None of the idols that they have had on all season are on the new record label.

    I assume, even with the label change, that 19 still gets a cut of what the previous Idols sell. So, it could be simple math: David Cook moves units, and Lee DeWyze does not.

  • CindyM

    I’m betting that if he’s been dropped, he’s been dropped by 19M too. If not, I think he’d be there.

  • CindyM

    I wonder though why that viewing party isnt happening now either?

    The event is still happening, right? Just Lee’s not going to perform. I haven’t seen that Archie and Allison aren’t doing it.

    Just looked at Kiis, it’s still happening, Lee is just not listed anymore:

    http://www.kiisfm.com/common/promotions/index.php?id=34&preview=1

  • SpenserJ

    I suspect not. They might have Iovine do it as part of his “not an asshole” edit. Too little too late, but undoubtedly they’ll try some rehabilitation on him.

    Okay, I’m just going to come out and say it. I don’t think Iovine is an asshole. He’s said some stuff this season that made me scratch my head a little. But, I think that’s a function of his job description. He has no time to sugar-coat things.

    I wonder though why that viewing party isnt happening now either?

    I’m confused about the viewing party. Was Lee supposed to perform at this, but now he is not? Or, is the viewing party itself not happening? Are Allison & David A still scheduled for that? Did Lee back out of the viewing party once his invite to perform on AI never came?

    Or did he do something to make Fuller so mad that Fuller has now blackballed him all over town?

    ETA: CindyM, thanks for answering at least 2 of my multitude of questions :).

  • smeggingnuts

    suenigma says:
    05/23/2011 at 8:01 pm
    Smegginnuts: Sucks for Lee but they are running a TV show not a charity and as unfair as it is….the entertainment work isn’t lollipops and gumdrops.
    Still sucks for Lee

    I disagree, I think it sucks for Idol. The Idol media is going to be up in arms about this, and I think that they will loose a lot of respect from the majority of viewers who voted for him last year (even if those votes didn’t ultimately translate into album sales). If I was a former Idol, even a biggie like Carrie or Kelly, I would think that it was a pretty douche move as well. I hope Kelly writes a scathing blog or letter about this. LOL

    But just from his sales it seems that those who voted for him moved on quickly. I don’t think it will matter much as the hard core idol stans and blogs. I’m pretty sure the casual voters even the ones that watch every year arn’t going to get out the pitch forks and torches. Idol doesn’t seem to care what the Idol media thinks as all the changes this season have shown. They are all about bringing in the viewers. I mean yes there will be media about him no performing but I can’t see that there will be a big deal made out of it like Cook not being there last year. IDK its all IMHO

  • Masieta

    Funny how so many of these comments start with “I’m not a Lee fan, but…” because that is the same way I’m going to start this comment. As a Kris fan, I was upset that they shortened Kris’ performance last year and didn’t mention anything about his album, his tour, or his platinum single – but talked about these things with other non-idol performers. But, at least I got to see him perform and hear the audience scream when he performed and when he walked out on stage to perform with the other winners. It really is not right not to ask Lee to perform. TPTB have left Lee twisting in the wind on too many occasions. If I were Lee, however, I wouldn’t have tweeted to confirm their inattention. It will only further alienate TPTB from him.

  • jersey

    That’s what I’m wondering, Spense. Has Lee been badmouthing idol or 19 alphabet or something? I’m not a fan so I don’t follow his career and really have no idea.

  • koshka

    LOL so TPtB are pretending that S9 never happened. Thats freaking funny in a sad and twisted sort of way. This is the cherry on top to a season of blatant manipulation.

  • lucy95

    I’m a fan of his pre-idol music, not post-idol. But this is not right. What kind of message is this sending? Time to put this show to bed. It’s a money maker for a bunch of people who have no interest in what hqppens to people once they leave the show. This is really lower than low.

  • SashaB

    Taylor Hicks used to be the lowest benchmark for winners, in terms of treatment…this would be a new low. Ouch.

    Why was the KIIS viewing gig canceled? It’s one thing not to perform on the Finale, but wasn’t this gig already booked?

    ETA: Yeah, season 9 is being brushed under the rug. It’s hard to say winners are being treated poorly when Carrie, Kris and Cook were with Fuller today. Carrie and George Strait are picking the Finale songs for Lauren and Scotty. Cook is performing tomorrow night.

  • OldHag

    Good grief even Taylor got to come back and perform on the finale.

    Taylor Hicks sold over 700,000 albums and Lee Dewyze around 133,000. Taylor sold more than his #2, Lee sold less. Doesn’t excuse or diminish the crassness of this snub. This is bad form at its height.

  • suenigma

    Smeggingnuts I’m not so sure about that though. I am not a Lee fan by any stretch (Bowersox, Bowersox!) but I am pretty incensed about this right now. And if this blog is any indication, so are a lot of other Idol viewers. And those voters may not have bought his album, but I still don’t think they are going to think it is okay for Idol to treat Lee like a piece of shit. In the end this may be the best thing that ever happended to Lee. LOL. America loves an underdog. Especially one that has been so egregiously abused.

  • nspiredbycook

    I feel really bad for Lee! This sucks for his fans too~Sorry Lee fans I truly feel bad for all of you.

  • HR

    Taylor did perform at the finale but that was the only time he made an appearance in season six. Lee made one appearance earlier in the year. Lee is not being denied the number of slots Taylor was given. Other winners have had more then one appearance so clearly he is no favorite of theirs.

    If they were going to limit him to one appearance I do think they should have saved it for the finale as that has come to be expected of the winners.

  • smeggingnuts

    suenigma says:
    05/23/2011 at 8:13 pm
    Smeggingnuts I’m not so sure about that though. I am not a Lee fan by any stretch (Bowersox, Bowersox!) but I am pretty incensed about this right now. And if this blog is any indication, so are a lot of other Idol viewers. And those voters may not have bought his album, but I still don’t think they are going to think it is okay for Idol to treat Lee like a piece of shit. In the end this may be the best thing that ever happended to Lee. LOL. America loves an underdog. Especially one that has been so egregiously abused.

    haha but thats what I was trying to say on the idol blogs=RAGE!!! everyone else probably not gonna notice.

    And yeah could be very helpfull for future radio…get the anti-idol backing

  • http://airincaol.com coco

    I hope Lee didn’t get Bumped so we could watch j-lo do that same song …one more time.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Oh my. Someone is angry.

    http://twitter.com/#!/MikeDeWyze

  • tripp_ncwy

    The previous winner giving away the cars is actually something that only started in season 8, in previous years Ryan handed them the keys.

    I guess I didn’t pay much attention to that. Plus, it is a taped segment and Lee has been out of the country. He may not even get that perk. Oh snap.

  • CindyM

    Lee’s brother is really pissed: (read from bottom up)

    MikeDewyze:

    # @LeeDeWyze while u may be respectul about it i think its bull shit 14 minutes ago via Twitter for Android Retweeted by you and 4 others

    @dizzyfeet u actually lack a soul 24 minutes ago via Twitter for Android

    @dizzyfeet scumbag 31 minutes ago via Twitter for Android

    @AmericanIdol can’t wait to see my bro on the finale…o wait…B.S. 34 minutes ago via Twitter for Android

    American idol producers have no respect.. that is all.. serious b.s. 36 minutes ago via Twitter for Android

  • Esqt

    I guess Lee & his guitar is just too low-key for what they planned for the finale show. He’ll just stood out as a bore amongs the artists that they invited.

  • smeggingnuts

    mj says:
    05/23/2011 at 8:20 pm
    Oh my. Someone is angry.

    http://twitter.com/#!/MikeDeWyze

    LOL

  • ross

    I’m betting that if he’s been dropped, he’s been dropped by 19M too. If not, I think he’d be there.

    Possibly, but then wouldn’t he expect not to be there? Instead it seems like wanted to be asked and expected to be.

    This stinks for Lee, shows no class. I’m not going to leap to any conclusions as to the reasons, though. Low record sales? For all I know they’re just going to give the time that normally would have gone to him, to someone like Haley, or Pia, to perform their new singles. Overall they seem to want to make people forget last season ever existed – in an almost paranoid way – and shift all focus to the current contestants. Personally, I thought this season was worse, if that’s possible, but that’s just me. :)

    I guess Lee & his guitar is just too low-key for what they planned for the finale show. He’ll just stood out as a bore amongs the artists that they invited.

    Have you seen the Top 2?

  • SpenserJ

    That’s what I’m wondering, Spense. Has Lee been badmouthing idol or 19 alphabet or something? I’m not a fan so I don’t follow his career and really have no idea.

    I don’t follow him either – so I really have no idea. But, if there was bad blood, wouldn’t we have heard those rumors before? They might just not want to waste the 4 minutes of expensive TV time on someone who fails to deliver big numbers. I don’t know.

    I guess maybe because I think that Lee is the worst winner ever, I can’t even really get angry about this. I just don’t care. (I do however sympathize with the Lee fans here – I know this totally sucks for you :( ).

    They’ve got a big night planned on Wednesday, so I’m thinking many of the viewers won’t even notice. I suspect that Nigel is expecting some blowback on the blogs & Twitter, but he probably doesn’t care either. He knows 20 million people watch this show, but only a fraction of them will hear this news on Twitter or at places like this one.

    ETA:
    Oh snap, mj. I must say, I don’t think Lee’s brother is helping his cause at all. (If my brother is being treated shitty at work, I don’t think it’s okay for me to e-mail the CEO about what a scumbag he is. Not good.)

  • Pam

    Oh my. Someone is angry.

    http://twitter.com/#!/MikeDeWyze

    Wow. Can’t say I blame him though.

  • Incipit

    It’s a money maker for a bunch of people who have no interest in what hqppens to people once they leave the show.

    And your point is?

    Seriously, lucy95 – that isn’t news.

    If people wanted to believe that the “Kinder, Gentler’ Idol was any deeper than a PR Veneer – that was their call. If they wanted to buy that Idol had class and taste – I would argue that the auditions for 9 years ought to have put paid to that notion.

    They hired Simon in the first place to be mean and nasty – viewers loving it didn’t give them any opposite ideas to change flavors. Necessity did.

    Obviously, on the viewer scale, TPTB don’t think they have offended any sizable majority of people – so – no need to do damage control.

    Idol is and has always been a business – nothing personal. It’s always a case of “What Have You Done For Me Lately” in that world.

    IMO. Of Course.

  • annie12120

    But just from his sales it seems that those who voted for him moved on quickly.

    Same thing will happen to Scotty or Lauren too. So get ready. At least they will be the new lowest selling idols ever…First, Kris, then Lee… now the newbies – nobody is buying. They will have an ok single because the timing is right at the finale, but after that – good luck with those sales

  • artemis

    No, Lee has always been greatful and respectful towards the show. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to say that this means either Sony or 19 are dropping him or are angry with him. He just returned a few days ago from a successful Asian Tour where he did lots of radio interviews and TV shows, performed for large crowds and sold a lot of albums(price of admission to at least some of the concerts). If either were dropping him, I don’t think they’d have sent him to Asia and I don’t think they’d pick the time of the Finale to do it-bad publicity for Idol.
    I think Nigel is doing it to cram in another celebrity performance. He doesn’t care what Lee’s fans think. Most probably won’t know about Lee’s absence till they watch the show (which I won’t bother with, now).

    When Lee appeared on Idol in March, he got a large boost in album sales, so I wouldn’t trade that away-they treated him very well then. But I’ve watched many, many Asian interviews the last two weeks and in every one Lee talked up the show, Season 10 and how talented the top 3 are. I think this is a really disrespectful move on Nigel’s part.

  • OiWithThePoodles

    Yeah, Lee’s girlfriend just tweeted her displeasure, too. I don’t blame them.

  • blmetsfan

    His brother isn’t helping him, as right as he may be. lol

  • tinawina

    Wow. That is a really, really shitty thing to do to Lee. No class at all. Wow.

  • annie12120

    I guess Lee & his guitar is just too low-key for what they planned for the finale show. He’ll just stood out as a bore amongs the artists that they invited.

    Have you seen the Top 2?

    LOL Hilarious!

  • suenigma

    ETA:
    Oh snap, mj. I must say, I don’t think Lee’s brother is helping his cause at all. (If my brother is being treated shitty at work, I don’t think it’s okay for me to e-mail the CEO about what a scumbag he is. Not good.)

    Yeah, but that only applies if he still works there, not if he has obviously been fired, right? And I’m not a fan of Lee’s, but as a fan of Idol, I am pissed. So, so tacky. I’m glad Lee’s brother is coming to his defense. If my brother got publicly humiliated, I would too.

  • kcostell

    No class at all. Wow.

    You were expecting the Idol producers to show class? What kind of show do you think this is, anyway?

  • SpenserJ

    Yeah, but that only applies if he still works there, not if he has obviously been fired, right?

    But, we’re not sure he has been fired. And, public feuds rarely look good for anyone. Few people may have even found out that Lee was dissed in this fashion. Thanks to his defenders, these tweets will probably be on TMZ in about 5 minutes.

    I get why they’re pissed. But, I still think it’s bad form and sends a signal to any future labels that Lee’s got some crazy baggage hanging around.

  • CindyM

    I think Nigel is doing it to cram in another celebrity performance. He doesn’t care what Lee’s fans think. Most probably won’t know about Lee’s absence till they watch the show (which I won’t bother with, now).

    But Lee said he wasn’t even asked, so it’s not like they’re cutting his segment to get a last minute guest in. I also think his brother wouldn’t be badmouthing Idol and Nigel Lithgoe if things between Lee and 19 were hunkydory.

  • Trina

    People on my Twitter feed who dont even like Lee are pissed.

  • koshka

    Most probably won’t know about Lee’s absence till they watch the show (which I won’t bother with, now).

    Really, I’d be shocked if the average viewer realized his absence. Prior to S8 I never visited an Idol blog and never put much notice into the idol ‘traditions’, each season just sort of unfolded.

  • Indigobunting

    Judges who don’t judge and teen finalists who seem to lack the charisma to actually be idolized are hardly a recipe for long-term success.

    I was going to say I agree with that Chicago Tribune article and say what a weird season its been (although admittedly more entertaining than last year). For all the bashing S9 took, the final 2 were more exciting (and in the case of Crystal, way more talented than either Lauren or Scotty, IMO).

    But then I noticed the Lee news, Yikes!

    That is extremely low. Give the guy his 4 minutes- it is tradition. And personally, I’m pretty sick of the BEP. Now U2, that is another story, lol.

    I don’t care if time is short, or he has been dropped; I’m sure they could fit him in some where. That sucks. :(

  • SpenserJ

    I also think his brother wouldn’t be badmouthing Idol and Nigel Lithgoe if things between Lee and 19 were hunkydory.

    Well, if he wasn’t about to be dropped/fired, he will be now.

  • ross

    If either were dropping him, I don’t think they’d have sent him to Asia and I don’t think they’d pick the time of the Finale to do it-bad publicity for Idol.

    I was just going to post something like this – they just sent him on this big tour so why would they be dropping him? Though strange things do happen. Still, everyone is always so quick to assume people are being dropped by their labels.

    LOL Hilarious!

    Ha. I wasn’t really trying to be mean. I’m just saying if Lee is “just too low-key” for the big finale then what are Scotty and Lauren? Low-key practically defines Scotty. I mean, Lee’s performance of Halleluia was not low key, right? But everything Scotty does is seemingly laid back. Not meant as a slam.

  • kvwicks13

    As a huge fan of Lee, I am very upset that he won’t be on the finale. He was the only reason I was tuning in. I have no desire to what Lauren and Scotty perform. I kind of chuckle when everyone said Lee was boring…..especially since Lauren and Scotty are such charasmatic performers…..not!

    Anyway, I’m done venting, done with idol…..will be watching my new favorite show Tuesday….the Voice.

  • CindyM

    Update by Billboard. It’s not U2 performing, it’s Bono and the Edge along with the broadway cast:

    billboarddotcom:
    Update: U2′s Bono and the Edge will perform on the American Idol finale w/ ‘Spider-Man’ Broadway cast members: http://bit.ly/l5lNzR #idol 5 minutes ago via TweetDeck

  • Q3

    I am not a Lee fan but this is just wrong and disrespectful of all the fans (viewers) who supported Lee.

    Couldn’t they have done something that was a 50 sec cameo for him? Or at least had him on the show.

    ETA: Anyway, I was already planning to watch The Voice on Tuesday — now I may skip Weds too. Seriously cannot support a show with producers who are this heartless. It will be the first Idol Final I pass since the year Bo lost. (Not quite over that one yet.)

  • bean99

    Wow. Very cold of them. Lee wasn’t my favorite last season but I liked him and he doesn’t deserve this. Sometimes there’s too much focus on former winners (s6 finale) but still the previous one should perform.

  • doggiedr

    Yeah, but that only applies if he still works there, not if he has obviously been fired, right? And I’m not a fan of Lee’s, but as a fan of Idol, I am pissed. So, so tacky. I’m glad Lee’s brother is coming to his defense. If my brother got publicly humiliated, I would too.

    In business you should never burn bridges, ever.
    Especially not with a behemoth like Idol/19.

    Always take the high road- suck it up.

  • koshka

    I’m going to sound heartless.. but I find that I don’t much care whether Lee makes an appearance or not. I’m neither a fan nor non-fan, I just simply lack interest.

  • suenigma

    Trina says:
    05/23/2011 at 8:34 pm
    People on my Twitter feed who dont even like Lee are pissed.

    Exactly! Nigel has done a disservice to the show, not just Lee. I could see them not having him back ever again, but for this one moment of tradition and show of respect? If TPTB don’t give a shit about the title of American Idol, why should we? They are admitting that their own show is a farce, and that winning is meaningless.

  • smeggingnuts

    ross
    I was just going to post something like this – they just sent him on this big tour so why would they be dropping him? Though strange things do happen. Still, everyone is always so quick to assume people are being dropped by their labels.

    They sent Allison on a big Asian tour too. She got big crowds as well.

  • annie12120

    Maybe Lee got bumped because of Bono and his failing spiderman show needs more time to show why it’s a flop?
    Ross, I loved your comment re Lee versus this year’s unexciting finalists :)

    ETA – isn’t it the DWTS final Tuesday night too? That is what I am DVRing if it is.

  • koshka

    If TPTB don’t give a shit about the title of American Idol, why should we? They are admitting that their own show is a farce, and that winning is meaningless.

    Maybe this explains my bemused interest in all the games TPTB play.

  • ross

    I was going to say I agree with that Chicago Tribune article and say what a weird season its been

    That was a very good article.

    I don’t think Lee will be held accountable for his brother’s tweets. I mean, I doubt it. I think the producers must be used to dealing with the families of idol contestants. To say the least.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    It’s a money maker for a bunch of people who have no interest in what hqppens to people once they leave the show.

    Ken Warwick admitted that they have nothing to do with what happens to contestants once they leave the show. From a conference call with the media:

    Is Ken concerned about marketing another male winner?

    “I make a television show, at the end of that show, I hopefully give the record company a person who has a following of 20, 30 million people. What they do from then on has absolutely nothing to do with me. I then move on to the next year’s show.

    You were expecting the Idol producers to show class? What kind of show do you think this is, anyway?

    It’s an enormously profitable one that rakes in >$38 million in ad revenue for every 2 hour show. More than the total gross from the entire Idol tour each year.

  • Niall

    Dang, Nigel just did the impossible and made me feel sorry for Lee. I guess they REALLY want season 9 to be forgotten. Ouch. It’s gotta hurt and be embarrassing all at the same time. Not a classy move by Nigel but I had a feeling this might happen.

  • smeggingnuts

    koshka
    Maybe this explains my lack of interest in all the games TPTB play.

    i’m never really surprised by anything they do….they are trying to make a TV show….anything goes

  • SpenserJ

    I’m going to sound heartless.. but I find that I don’t much care whether Lee makes an appearance or not. I’m neither a fan nor non-fan, I just simply lack interest.

    I don’t care either. Maybe if it were someone I was a fan of, I might be a bit miffed. I’m not sure. But, I don’t necessarily think the previous winner needs to come back like some reigning Miss America and give over the crown.

    Nigel’s a big boy, he can take the abuse. Mostly because no matter what names people call him tonight, he knows there are still going to be over 20 million people watching tomorrow night.

    Either way, if your loved one is in the entertainment field, you don’t publicly blast the leaders of some entertainment giants. At least, not if you want said loved one to have a future in the entertainment business.

  • Q3

    19 makes money sending Idolettes to Asia so why not send them?

  • Elliegrll

    Smegginnuts: Sucks for Lee but they are running a TV show not a charity and as unfair as it is….the entertainment work isn’t lollipops and gumdrops.

    It’s easy to blame the public’s lack of interest with last season on the contestants, but even Nigel admits that last year’s tone was very dark. One of the reasons why the show had such a nasty vibe is that right from the start they took the focus off of the all of the people who went through the show. These people, including those who might not have been as successful as some others, are the number one reason why people watch. As much as he is slammed, Taylor’s season is the one that is not only the highest rated, but the one where the tour made the most money. Given how popular he was, I think that Taylor a huge reason for why both of those things. It wasn’t the Black Eyed Peas, or anyone other huge acts that have nothing to do with the show.

    AI has had a much kinder tone this year, and they shouldn’t mess it up by once again dismissing the most important part of the show, which of course is all of the alums.

  • kvwicks13

    Koshka, you might not be a fan of Lee’s but I think I’m sure if one of your favorites was not asked back, you would be upset too. From what I hear he is the only one in 9 seasons that was not asked back to the finale…..that is just not right!

  • SpenserJ

    They sent Allison on a big Asian tour too. She got big crowds as well.

    Maybe that’s the last thing they do with these kids before they drop them. Send them to the Phillipines to earn back some of the cash the label has spent.

  • tinawina

    You were expecting the Idol producers to show class? What kind of show do you think this is, anyway?

    True. LOL.

    I was just going to post something like this – they just sent him on this big tour so why would they be dropping him?

    Because it was a way to make some quick money.

    Lee probably will end up dropped. I don’t think that can be avoided at this point. But if 19 was behind him (a la Allison) then they’d still be doing things to keep him in the public eye while they’d shop him a new deal. Ruben was in a similar situation for a minute. If anything, this is not a good sign of what 19 has in mind for Lee’s future.

    It just seems mean to, after 10 years, suddenly stop having the reigning champ appear. I understand business is business. But he doesn’t have to perform, you know? Just acknowledge the guy. Geesh. Maybe they have something like that in mind instead.

  • Elliegrll

    If TPTB don’t give a shit about the title of American Idol, why should we? They are admitting that their own show is a farce, and that winning is meaningless.

    This is pretty much what they did on the air at the beginning of season 9. It pretty much set the tone for the rest of the season.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Maybe Lee got bumped because of Bono and his failing spiderman show needs more time to show why it’s a flop?

    I doubt it. The Bono appearance was only made very recently, and Lee said he hadn’t been asked, not that he was bumped.

  • ross

    They sent Allison on a big Asian tour too. She got big crowds as well.

    I wasn’t talking about crowds, just meant they just spent a lot of money promoting him – just now. So if they drop him they just wasted a lot of money, which doesn’t make a lot of sense.
    Not saying it’s not possible. But anyway, I would say if Lee was dropped he wouldn’t complain he wasn’t asked to the finale. He’d know why he wasn’t asked.

    But then, show business is irrational, usually.

    It’s easy to blame the public’s lack of interest with last season on the contestants, but even Nigel admits that last year’s tone was very dark.

    Nigel admitted the tone of the show last year was “very dark”? I didn’t really get that. It was boring, people sang shitty a lot of the time. That’s about the worst I can say about it. It was unsuccessful as entertainment, but I wouldn’t say it was very dark. Or even dark.

  • Tess

    Since I didn’t watch Idol last year (because it sucked) I could care less if Lee is invited back or not. He got a visit earlier in the season, and his performance was iffy at best, so he got his opportunity to shine as the previous winner and since his “new single” didn’t sell a thing from the performance nor did it ever get a single add date on radio I can fully understand why Idol doesn’t give a damn about wasting another 4 minutes on the guy.

    Besides, the majority of Idol viewers won’t give a frigg whether he is back at the final or not. They don’t keep track of Idol traditions….they just go with the flow…and besides they remember that Lee did get to come back earlier so all will be well in their minds.

    If the season 10 winner is as commercially unremarkable as Lee both in sales, radio spins, fan interest, media interest, touring opportunities, gigs etc. then I feel that person, too, shouldn’t be surprised to be ignored as the season 11 winner is crowned. Idol has moved beyond the “winner” is everything mantra. They, themselves, are apparently now embracing the fact that any idolette is deserving if they can sell and keep the fans happy regardless of where they finish. Winning is nice….but if an Idol doesn’t use it…and keep the interest intact…then, just tough.

  • rayni

    I’m not a Lee fan and wouldn’t miss him on the show. Having said that, as a Taylor fan and understanding how it feels for your idol to be mistreated, disrespected, ignored, belittled, and hidden behind a plant I hate this for Lee and his fans. Not right. Not right at all.

  • smeggingnuts

    ross says:
    05/23/2011 at 8:52 pm
    They sent Allison on a big Asian tour too. She got big crowds as well.

    I wasn’t talking about crowds, just meant they just spent a lot of money promoting him – just now. So if they drop him they just wasted a lot of money, which doesn’t make a lot of sense.

    From how many idols they send there I don’t think its very spendy to hve them do a tour over there. Idol is HUGE there and they eat up any that are sent their way. I don’t think they lose anything by doing it.

  • koshka

    kvwicks13 says:
    05/23/2011 at 8:49 pm
    Koshka, you might not be a fan of Lee’s but I think I’m sure if one of your favorites was not asked back, you would be upset too. From what I hear he is the only one in 9 seasons that was not asked back to the finale…..that is just not right!

    Maybe. IDK but lets be clear, I never said that his fans shouldn’t be upset, only that I simply find a bemused sort of disinterest. TPTB have pulled so much crap this season, that this doesn’t at all surprise me, just one more bit of BS.

  • Elliegrll

    I wasn’t talking about crowds, just meant they just spent a lot of money promoting him – just now.

    For the most part, the Asia tours have been about promoting American Idol, and not the alums. For some of them, there’s been no follow-up promotion in these countries, even when their singles have taken off after their visits.

  • tripp_ncwy

    If either were dropping him, I don’t think they’d have sent him to Asia and I don’t think they’d pick the time of the Finale to do it-bad publicity for Idol

    Both Archie & Allison went oversees and subsequently were released by their labels. Most of the financing for the tour is is paid for by sponsors.

  • miniglik

    Nigel admitted the tone of the show last year was “very dark”? I don’t really get that. It was boring, people sang shitty a lot of the time. That’s about the worst I can say about it.

    I think he meant behind-the-scenes.

  • karenc

    tripp_ncwy says:
    05/23/2011 at 7:49 pm
    If Lee is not performing at the finale, I wonder what the finale meeting Kris had Friday was all about.

    I wondered too because that implied all the winners were doing something.

    The previous winner usually performs for the final time as the champ and gives away the Ford cars to the two finalist.

    Maybe they aren’t doing the cars this time. Seriously, if Lauren just turned 16, maybe she doesn’t even have her license yet.

    And I don’t think it’s right too that they didn’t have Lee perform on the finale. I wonder if he’s even going to be there at all. No matter how he did after idol, he is still part of the shows history, and is the reigning idol.

  • tripp_ncwy

    If they were going to limit him to one appearance I do think they should have saved it for the finale as that has come to be expected of the winners.

    Lee’s album was not selling so RCA had to do something to generate a buzz and it it actually worked for a short time. He just could not sustain it since SS & BLU never performed well on radio.

  • idolfan92

    You know, Lee winning was the first time my favorite won. I’ve watched religiously since Season 5 and saw my favorite lose in the finale twice before that. So I voted 4,000 times for Lee last year on Top 2 night. I visited Mt Prospect on a family trip to IL over the summer and went to his paint shop. And now I have to deal with this crap? Thanks for nothing, Idol.

  • madamimadam

    I think this goes beyond the pale of no-class from AI. As many have said, I’m not a Lee fan, but this is one of the crappiest stunt they have ever pulled.

    … and on another note, if Lee is not there, who will hand Scotty and Lauren the car keys? Oh wait! They’re both too young to drive! I guess Ford saved itself some money this season!

  • steph6449

    Don’t particularly care for Lee but in general, I favor keeping the traditions of the show, like the last winner coming back on the finale, even the cheesy coronation songs, lol.

    It’s odd to me that Lee is saying something about this now and his brother is so outraged as if he just heard it for the first time. This can’t be news to Lee. If he truly wasn’t asked, then he and his reps had to have known that for quite a while.

    Lee may well get dropped but I was thinking it would come during the summer or fall once media had its gaze off the show.

  • AIaddict

    Damn American Idol and efffff the producers for not inviting Lee back to the finale to perform. I am pretty low key around here and have loved this stupid show practically since the beginning. What kind of black hearted, souless people could do such a thing? Oh wait he know the answer to that. What a low blow and such an act of disrespect towards Lee who has always been grateful for what the show has done for him. Screw you AI! We are thru.

  • kvwicks13

    BLU was never given a radio add. He did get a boost after his idol performance in March. Another performance with a new song may have given him another boost. That’s not even the point, as the reigning winner he should have been invited back.

  • OiWithThePoodles

    In Lee’s defense about his album not selling well, it was barely promoted. If I didn’t actually follow what was going on, I would’ve never known his album came out. The album was atleast decent. It’s not like RCA tried very hard to sell it.

  • SpenserJ

    This actually may be the best thing to happen to Lee if the press picks it up further

    I’m not sure how the press picking up this humiliating fiasco would be a good thing for Lee? It’s like the final nail in his career’s coffin.

  • Elliegrll

    Nigel admitted the tone of the show last year was “very dark”? I don’t really get that. It was boring, people sang shitty a lot of the time. That’s about the worst I can say about it.

    I think he meant behind-the-scenes.

    He meant both, since he mentioned the on-air relationship between Ryan and Simon. My point is that the tension and the nasty tone permeated the whole show, and the viewers, contestants, judges, and everybody else could feel it. It was that tone/nastiness that made the show unwatchable and just not fun.

  • Buffynut

    Poor Lee. I am not a fan but he seems like a nice guy and I feel bad for him! So, this is the first time the reigning winner is not performing. Right? (I guess I should go read back through the thread to find that answer, huh?)

  • artemis

    Mike DeWyze tweeted again:

    People may think I’m being rude its just very obvious when someone is being treated disrespectfully..sorry about angry tweets. Heat of moment

    This sure makes it sound like Lee just found out. Or maybe Lee just now saw what his brother was tweeting and told him to calm down.
    I really think Lee got bumped for U2.

  • Q3

    The decision about Lee being invited back to the Finale has nothing to do with RCA — it is solely a decision made by 19 and the show producers.

    I haven’t followed Lee’s Asia trip closely but Allison’s made money from sponsorships and appearance fees. I assume that Lee’s was also profitable.

    He was not my pick but he won and he deserves to be invited to be on the show.

    It is kind of like having the 2011 Miss American pageant and not inviting the 2010 winner back because you don’t think she is pretty enough.

    And the fact that this is the 10th anniversary show makes it that much worse.

  • http://idolstages.com Connie D.

    All winners should be respected, and I am sick to my stomach about Lee not being asked to perform. I want to hate someone right now, but I’m not sure who exactly.

  • Banished

    Haven’t read all previous posts, but as a fan of Kris Allen, I don’t see what the big deal is. Lee already performed once, with respectful reviews at that. Kris ,if I recall correctly is the ONLY winner not to perform at all this season. All the tv coverage he got was 3 seconds of a wave to the camera. Cookie, who I also love, go the boot song and TWO performances…

  • kvwicks13

    Kris did perform on last year’s final, following his win….Lee should have been given the same opportunity.

  • Q3

    Mike DeWyze tweeted again”

    People may think I’m being rude its just very obvious when someone is being treated disrespectfully..sorry about angry tweets. Heat of moment

    This sure makes it sound like Lee just found out. Or maybe Lee just now saw what his brother was tweeting and told him to calm down.
    I really think Lee got bumped for U2.

    U2 is actually not on the show — Bono and the Edge are on to promote Spiderman. 19 artists have done a lot to promote Spiderman and this appears to have been in the works for a while.

    I do not think that Lee was bumped Bono.

    5.20.11 Several news outlets are reporting that Bono and Edge are negotiating with FOX to appear with members of the Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark cast on the two-hour American Idol finale on Wednesday, May 25. If this were to happen, it would be the fifth consecutive year members of U2 have collaborated with American Idol. —– In 2010, winner Lee DeWyze sang “Beautiful Day,” which was also his first official release.

  • smeggingnuts

    Banished says:
    05/23/2011 at 9:28 pm
    Haven’t read all previous posts, but as a fan of Kris Allen, I don’t see what the big deal is. Lee already performed once, with respectful reviews at that. Kris ,if I recall correctly is the ONLY winner not to perform at all this season. All the tv coverage he got was 3 seconds of a wave to the camera. Cookie, who I also love, go the boot song and TWO performances…

    Never fear is sounds like Kris is doing “something” on the finale

  • McCreerian

    Same thing will happen to Scotty or Lauren too. So get ready. At least they will be the new lowest selling idols ever…First, Kris, then Lee… now the newbies – nobody is buying. They will have an ok single because the timing is right at the finale, but after that – good luck with those sales

    I doubt that. Country sells A LOT. Kellie Pickler wasn’t the best singer but she still managed to sell 900,000 with her debut album. And none of her singles from the album manged to get into the top 10. Scotty and Lauren are in a very popular genre.

  • mmb

    Kris ,if I recall correctly is the ONLY winner not to perform at all this season. All the tv

    Ruben didn’t perform, nor did Taylor. Carrie didn’t either ( but there is still the finale). Kelly, fantasia, jordin and cook all had singles to promote. Kris had nothing to promote this season- not surprising he didn’t perform. Next year when his new cd is put he will undoubtedly perform

  • Elliegrll

    I doubt that. Country sells A LOT. Kellie Pickler wasn’t the best singer but she still managed to sell 900,000 with her debut album. And none of her singles from the album manged to get into the top 10. Scotty and Lauren are in a very popular genre.

    More like 800,000 on the back of 3 top 20 hit songs.

  • Jae

    I am not a Lee fan but I think its very sh$#ty of Idol not to have him back to renounce his title so to speak. He does represent them even if he has not made it in the industry. Such class, AI.

  • McCreerian

    Has Lee been badmouthing idol or 19 alphabet or something? I’m not a fan so I don’t follow his career and really have no idea.

    Well he did say before the season started in an interview that “it is stupid that they are taking instruments away.”

  • windmills

    Edited bc lots of people covered the other winners who haven’t performed on AI this season yet.

    I think it would’ve been good to at least acknowledge Lee at the finale. He didn’t need to perform solo but a performance with the t13 would also have been nice.

  • merkureye

    I really feel for Lee but I can’t say I am surprised that Idol is keeping him at arm’s-length. He is just not that talented and stage presence is nonexistent.

    I really hadn’t watched AI for years but picked up on it in the middle of S9. Needless to say, I was shocked at the goings-on. Siobhan, Katie Stevens, and Bowersox were clearly the better singers but what happened? Katie was voted off. Siobhan left early, and some big guy named Lynche made the T4, huh? Nothing seemed to make sense. At the end, I thought surely the Idol voters would reward Crystal’s obvious superior talent over Lee Dewyze.

    But nooooo. . . Drudge Report had an article early the day of the finale that said some website named Dial Idol shows Lee Dewyze as the winner???. I new then and there that something in the Idolsphere had drastically changed from the last season I really followed AI (Carrie Underwood’s S4).

    It is not too late for Lee to enter either law school or medical school. I know he is a bright guy. The AI winner on the resume will ensure that he gets admitted to a A-list school.

  • Banished

    Wow, my memory must be deceiving me, I swear Carrie and Taylor performed this year. The only one I wasn’t sure of was Ruben.

  • Mtlfan

    hmm Lee should have been invited to perform on the finale. It’s a tradition and it’s not ok not to. He’s not selling/popular enough? wth he’s nevertheless the S9 winner

  • smeggingnuts

    Well everythings a tradition until its not anymore ;)

  • tripp_ncwy
  • Desdemona

    That doesn’t seem right. It’s sending a message. Every season they’ve had the idol & runner up perform on the finale. It helps to give them a boost.

    I’m trying to remember, and hope someone will correct me if I’m wrong and THEY remember, but during Season 6, I don’t think that Kat McPhee, runner-up on Season 5, was ever invited to perform, and Taylor was never invited prior to the Finale on Season 6……Ryan didn’t even ANNOUNCE him at the Finale. We just heard the famliar “Heaven Knows” introduction and Taylor walked out, sang it, and was gone as quickly as he appeared. After it was over, Ryan said, “Taylor Hicks”. Big Whoopee.

    To read Lee’s tweet that he wasn’t even ASKED to appear at the Finale is about as low as TPBT can go. That sucks.

  • Q3

    Kris ,if I recall correctly is the ONLY winner not to perform at all this season.

    I would love to see the Taylor Hicks performance video but it does not exist.

    Three winners who sold many more albums than Kris were not on Idol this year — Taylor, Ruben and Carrie (on final).

    And Kris got to sing his new single “The Truth” on the Idol Finale.

    Lee is not even invited to the show. First time ever and IMO outrageous.

    That doesn’t seem right. It’s sending a message. Every season they’ve had the idol & runner up perform on the finale. It helps to give them a boost.

    The tradition is the winner performs on the finale, not the runner up. Adam was not on last year’s finale stage — let alone asked to perform.

  • edisto

    This is the first time I have commented on this site and will probably be my last. I have never watched American Idol until last year and I really liked Lee. I loved his style of music and the personality that came through the tv screen. The few times I have tried to watch the show this year I have had to ENDURE performances by artists that are already well established. I did not appreciate that because I felt this was supposed to be a show that gave people that have talent but aren’t out there an opportunity. As far as I am concerned I will never watch the J Lo and Steven Tyler show again, even if they aren’t judges next year. I have no idea what happened between Lee and the people running the show this year but they should have done the proper thing and invited him to participate. Not everyone has to like Lee but he is the winner from last year and should have been given that consideration.

  • cheese

    Even Taylor got to come back and perform on the Season 6 finale. He just sort of appeared out of nowhere after a commercial break and I don’t think they ever said his name. Lee could at least have a similar stealth performance.

  • everything

    Lee is a nice guy. Will never take that away from him. But I do think that he will always struggle with the expectations that comes from winning Idol. Unfortunately for Lee, I suspect this latest snub is a sign of what’s ahead. I think there will be an announcement soon that RCA and Lee “have parted ways”.

  • miniglik

    If Idol is keeping Lee at arms length why did he play a results show earlier this year?

  • aprilfoolish

    Well, I’m still very upset about Lee not performing but I just have to post something! I’ve been a typical AI watcher until last year, but when I heard Lee I experienced a lot of firsts. First time I bought (absolutely everything) from anyone on Idol, first power voting (but baby compared to some!), first time following blogs,(thank you mj), first time on Twitter, etc. In case it isn’t obvious, I AM a Lee fan. After he won, I settled in to watch wonderful things happen for him, after all, he gave a year of his life and worked very hard at it. Yes, it was a wonderful opportunity, and Lee was very appreciative about it, yet he never lost sight of the fact that the hard work had only begun. He did everything asked of him, yet I feel there was some pulling back from those promoting him. Lee fans are great, I’ve met so many nice people on Twitter. they all get these wonderful videos and show how Lee really is a great live performer. I don’t know what the future holds for him, but I know it involves music. I just wish I was a better fan, cause I’m sure there is something I could do. Because I really do believe in Lee, and I sure don’t believe in American Idol any more!

  • Mel1

    I just found out about Lee. I am so pissed. Really, really pissed.

  • steph6449

    Don’t see that it is definite he will not ‘appear’ in some fashion on the finale. The tweets just say he will not be performing. Of course if he’s ticked off on the latter, maybe he would not accept an invitation for the former.

  • HR

    Taylor’s one performance was during the finale. Lee’s performance was earlier in the year. The only difference is the timing.

    I’ve given this some thought. Aside from the argument it’s “Tradition” I think the best argument to be made in Lee’s favor is that the show played a big role in him winning. I understand his sales are poor and I do expect he will be dropped but this is not a guy they fought against winning who won in spite of their manipulations. He won with their manipulations in his corner. I don’t think Idol has the right to wipe him from memory when they played a large role in helping him to that win. If they didn’t want to be tied to this guy why did they invest so much time in pimping him? It wasn’t just Simon Cowell doing that on his own.

  • Q3

    miniglik says:
    05/23/2011 at 9:48 pm

    If Idol is keeping Lee at arms length why did he play a results show earlier this year?

    That was in mid-March when he still had a shot at pushing a single up the chart. The effort failed.

    They haven’t been able to even score him an opening act slot on a US Tour, he got no radio support, it just wasn’t going to happen for me.

    And with such low album sales, no radio support and no hit single, he is destined to be dropped. There is just no indication that RCA can make money on another investment in Lee.

    BUT that still have nothing to do with breaking the tradition of including last year’s winner on the Finale celebration and passing the torch.

  • Mel1

    If they’re having trouble with time, have Ryan and the judges not yap so much. I’m sorry, I’m just really furious. Oh, and I’m not even a Lee fan even tho I like him.

  • Ladydove2

    As a reigning American Idol champ they should have invited Lee. I have never heard him disrespect AI, not once. He is always gracious and thankful of what the show did for him. Like him or not, the producers should at least give him the common courtesy and also to his fans who voted for him and waited to see him on the finale.

  • McCreerian

    I hope they at least acknowledge him somehow-maybe he will be in the audience and Ryan can say something like “Here is your current American Idol” and then something like “What advice to you have for the new American Idol?” I think that would make people feel better.

  • Buffynut

    Taylor was also on an extensive nationwide tour during Season 6. I was a fan of his and I can remember there were only 2 dates of the whole season that he would have been available. But he defintiely did the Finale.

  • Buffynut

    I think that Chicago Tribune article is excellent. It hits every point we have been talking about all season.

  • Mel1

    As others have posted, RCA and 19 are separate entities. This really looks bad for AI. I cannot believe they cannot squeeze in two minutes for Lee.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Reminder:

    Please don’t post NSFW photos in comments. People cruise the site from work, and often with their kids looking over their shoulders.

    I allow swearing, but nothing that’s sexually graphic.

    BTW, That photo I deleted was more than likely Photoshopped,

  • Fullmoon

    This show is BS. It is rigged and manipulated from beginning to end and I will stick by this. My wish is for Lee to sign with some Indie label, put out the music he really really wants and come back and kick everyone’s ass and I’m not even a fan of his. lol

  • SybilTrelawney
    Has Lee been badmouthing idol or 19 alphabet or something? I’m not a fan so I don’t follow his career and really have no idea.

    Well he did say before the season started in an interview that “it is stupid that they are taking instruments away.”

    There was an article earlier this year in which Lee said he didn’t want to keep riding the Idol wave, and wanted to get out here and make “real” music.

    http://music-mix.ew.com/2011/04/04/lee-dewyze-interview/

    I read that article as a sign that Lee was at least as unhappy with Idol as TPTB were with him. Maybe someone at TPTB took offense. Or maybe TPTB are just being jerks.

  • songsungblue

    I can understand being upset about this, and I know it doesn’t seem ‘fair.’ But it isn’t about being fair, IMO. It’s about what sells, and how they want to brand a ‘New Idol.’ And Lee doesn’t fit that picture, with his struggle to gain a foothold on the market. I don’t think that means he sucks, BTW, I think he’s just not a viable artist at the level they need him to be. He’s an indie.

    Sending him to Asia was actually a nail in the coffin. If they thought he could catch on here, they would have attached him to a viable touring artist the way they did with Kris. This way, they let sponsors foot the bill. It’s pretty impossible to imagine he won’t be dropped, but I think this season was all about finding an artist who will not be Lee DeWyze, if you know what I mean.

    Country has been the biggest seller – country idol it is! They carefully orchestrated the King and Queen of the Prom finale. Why would Lee be there? Do the math.

  • iani

    TPTB was not able in 10 years to define the show and have at least in the last 4 years same pattern, how about to think they care what’s happening with the winners after, especially if they don’t have something to voice in media as a first week hot album sale and a good position on top 200 Billboard, lots of singles sold, albums too if they can sell in a good number! So no, I’m not surprised of anything what’s happening with Lee and how TPTB is treating him now, how someone said something like, “what do you expect it’s not charity, he sold only 133K”. Absolutely true, maybe a small contribution for the show’s francheyes, it is a warning for future winners and even former winners about their sales and the way TPTB treats them if they are not good enough. But for the same francheyes of the show for me personal it’s a shame and sad to see TPTB goes sometime public and show how unsuccessful some winners are. They have no fault for winning the show, as long as the show gets money from AT&T and maybe more and disclose proudly how many votes they get every time, like last time over 97 mil. votes, they wont get the winner they want. Why they don’t choose in the last top 3 or 4 for example and there would be nobody to blame for an unsuccessful winner but TPTB itself. For me AI is the industry and the family at least for AI winners, good or bad, successful or not, signed or doped by labels, there are papers signed to prove that. Lee not singing on the finale is like when you have in a family a child with disability and you’re ashamed of. Like he’s not invited to waste the time when they have hot acts out there, absolutely disrespectful for the winner of the show and the tradition of it. The power is in their hands, people of TPTB, and they do whatever they want to get money for the show. I’m sorry for Lee, that is reality for everyone who doesn’t bring money in the “family”. Good luck for him, his former indie label maybe is waiting for him and his fans to buy his music.

  • annie12120

    but she still managed to sell 900,000 with her debut album. And none of her singles from the album manged to get into the top 10.

    And did Kellie sell that many in the first 6 months of her cd debut? The cd is five, six years old now yes? (I have no idea)

  • tripp_ncwy

    I hope they at least acknowledge him somehow-maybe he will be in the audience and Ryan can say something like “Here is your current American Idol” and then something like “What advice to you have for the new American Idol?

    They already did that when he appeared earlier in the season.

  • smeggingnuts

    Songsungblue
    Sending him to Asia was actually a nail in the coffin. If they thought he could catch on here, they would have attached him to a viable touring artist the way they did with Kris. This way, they let sponsors foot the bill

    They sent Kris to Asia before he did his touring.

  • suenigma

    SpenserJ says:
    05/23/2011 at 9:11 pm
    “This actually may be the best thing to happen to Lee if the press picks it up further”

    I’m not sure how the press picking up this humiliating fiasco would be a good thing for Lee? It’s like the final nail in his career’s coffin

    .
    You missed the rest of my comment – “America loves an underdog, especially an egregiously abused one”. Lyndsey Parker has already written and posted an outrage piece, and Non-Lee fans are starting twittitions. I for one have gone and downloaded his album. Like I said, there are a lot of general fans of AI that are upset by this, not just Lee fans. He may be hurt and humiliated right now, but he will get support and attention as a result of it. Still sucks though.

  • Q3

    HR says:
    05/23/2011 at 9:52 pm

    Taylor’s one performance was during the finale. Lee’s performance was earlier in the year. The only difference is the timing.

    Taylor was treated very badly by Idol — yes he only sold 700K albums and did not have a follow-up to his one big hit single but this was a low point for Idol.

    What happened to Taylor was tacky — what is happening to Lee and his fans is wrong. It is a big difference.

  • ziggy

    This does not surprise me at all. As I have always said, it’s all about the MONEY for Idol, they support whoever makes them the most MONEY, and even if you WON last year, it does not make the least bit of difference to them, they will throw you under a bus so fast it will make your head spin. This is what they do. America, wake up.

  • SpenserJ

    You missed the rest of my comment – “America loves an underdog, especially an egregiously abused one”. Lyndsey Parker has already written and posted an outrage piece, and Non-Lee fans are starting twittitions.

    I’m sorry – I guess I was skimming too fast. I see your point, I’m just not sure that reaction in the Twitterverse will be big enough to make an impact. If however, Lee’s album bounces back into the BB 200 next week, I will admit I was completely wrong. :)

    On a completely different topic – MJ, when can we expect to see your post about the Elliott interview? (Not that I’m rushing you or anything!)

  • HR

    No, it’s not a big difference in the context it’s being applied. The statement being thrown around is that “even Taylor was invited back to perform in the finale”. Yes, he was. That was his one performance for the year. Lee received the same one performance earlier in the year. Neither were treated differently in that aspect other then Lee’s came earlier in the season.

    I have said in this thread I thought if he was limited to one performance it should have been the finale but that is a different argument. I have defended Lee in the past even if I don’t care for him. The Bears game was ridiculous. Idol pre-empting Lee’s first scheduled performance insulting. I don’t agree with this but in that one respect Lee still only ties Taylor in the “one” performance slot granted for the following year.

    If we take this a step forward other then the symbolic “diss” of not being at the finale Lee probably had more of a practical gain from his earlier slot then Taylor did from his finale performance. Taylor appeared in the finale without introduction, lukewarm audience reaction and far too late to help his sales. Lee’s jump in sales was brief but it did happen. He wasn’t lost in a crowded finale schedule and I think he was introduced as a superstar. In a way his return engagement benefitd him more then a finale slot would have.

    I do still think he should be there for the tradition and because Idol played a large role in him winning this show.

  • McCreerian

    I’m sure Nigel will address it after getting a ton of hate tweets about it lol :)

  • Desdemona


    Kris ,if I recall correctly is the ONLY winner not to perform at all this season. All the tv coverage he got was 3 seconds of a wave to the camera. Cookie, who I also love, go the boot song and TWO performances…

    Nope, Kris isn’t the ONLY winner who hasn’t performed this year – Taylor hasn’t either. As a matter of fact, I don’t think the ‘REAL’ winner (Daughtry) of Season 5 has yet performed either.

  • edisto

    The picture of Lady Gagme (yes I saw her peekachu) is what we Americans aspire to with our classy entetainers. And I think Lee’s brother was actually too easy on this Nigel Whatever-his-last-name is by calling him a scumbag. He is actually much worse. Money and power do no equal class.

  • http://www.huckleberryfriendmusic.com/ huckleberryfriend

    Some new pre-Idol Haley tunes on youtube. Search for Reinhart & The Rastitutes and then sort by upload date.

  • kmd

    Lee is certainly not the first Idol to not be treated right by the TPTB. It is nothing new. He won’t be the last either depending on how long AI lasts.

  • aprilfoolish

    When Lee was talking about Idol wave, I didn’t take it as he was trying to distance himself from Idol, just that he knows it takes more hard work and that he couldn’t count on being idol winner to carry him along. (boy and howdy!) idol did what it was supposed to, which is give him national recognition, and he put out music he is proud of, and he’s writing for others. (he seems to have peer support).

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I don’t think Lee needed to be offered a second solo this year, but acknowledgment of the passing of the guard would have been the classy way to handle it. They could have featured him in some sort of group performance (although he really never seemed into those).

    As for the twitterverse, I don’t think the alleged snub will cause a significant spike in his sales and if it does, it may last a day. That will not keep his deal with the record company.

    I always wondered if Simon was devious enough to pimp him so it would seem the Idol machine was rusty and old, making XFactor look dhiny and new. It’s just business, after all…

    Wonder what he thinks of the Voice. I am quite enjoying it and wonder if X Factor will be as good. Never seen the UK version.

  • Kirsten

    LOL. Yesterday, I was posting about traditions and winning meaning something (or it should mean something) and I was repeatedly asked where in the contract is says such-and-such is true.

    Well, it probably doesn’t say in the contract that last year’s Idol winner gets to perform on the Idol finale either. I agree it’s rude, but they seem to be pitching traditions left right and center this year. Perhaps they made time for Haley’s new single by not inviting Lee to perform. Though, more likely, given the timing of the respective announcement, it’s Bono and crew that pinched Lee’s time. Bono/Lee Lee/Bono. I can see Nigel making quick work of that math. Classy doesn’t really enter into the equation for him.

    It sucks for Lee and his fans, but it is still worth it to make nice with the PTB. Even Taylor got an invite back to perform after he was dropped. The PTB hold all the cards. Lee will one day have something else he needs to promote.

    It is weird, though, them doing this to their own chosen one. Usually, they do it to those that avoid the bus and upset their carefully laid plans. But, Ken is an idiot so who knows what he was really doing last year?

    Who is going to give the kids their Fords this year? Or do they not get that either?

  • Parkbench

    This is sort of off topic but it semi relates to Idol…in a way….but not really. If anyone is interested in Lady Gaga, her new album is on sale for $0.99 digital download today only on Amazon…
    I apologize if that’s too off topic, since she is signed to Interscope and was a mentor on Idol I thought it would be worth mentioning…

    On topic now:
    I feel so bad for Lee. I know I’m in the minority but I actually like him and wanted him to win last year…I was really hoping he would perform on the finale. = (
    But at least he had that Asia tour that he seemed to like and got to be on Idol earlier in the season. I just really wanted to see him on there again!

  • songsungblue

    Why is everyone getting on Nigel? It sucks for Lee, no question. But it isn’t the responsibility of Nigel to provide Lee. He needs to provide ratings.

    And if you have a problem with Lady GaGa, let me introduce you to her spiritual mother – Madonna. Who was doing similar performance art over 20 years ago. *Shrug* I mean, Rock and Roll was always supposed to push the borders. That’s what Steve Tyler did back in the day. But maybe that’s why we have Country Idol this year…god forbid anyone should be offended by art! :)

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Kellie was only 19 when she was on the show, so not so much older than Lauren. She definitely had America eating out of her hands in terms of personality, even if her performances were uneven (two theme nights in a row that she couldn’t handle did her in). I couldn’t stand her at the time, but now I am a fan. While her voice is good (not great), it is unique and even better, she has a ton of charisma, which cannot be taught.

    I can’t see Lauren reaching her sales at this stage in the game. Maybe later? Partly due to the often cited “Idol fatigue or glut,” partly because she doesn’t stand out enough, and partly because the market isn’t nearly as good as when Kellie debuted.

  • merkureye

    It is nice to see that Carrie is involved in the Final 2 show by selecting a song for Lauren to sing. I don’t know about other former idols but Carrie is a fixture on AI and always will be, and she seems to really enjoy it. I’ll bet she and her mother have been voting their fingers off for Lauren all season long.

  • Valentin432

    I don’t know if it’s been mentioned in the 203 posts so far but Fantasia didn’t perform on the season 4 finale, so it’s not unprecedented.

  • kvwicks13

    And the market was not nearly as good for Lee either. You could see the decline after David Cook’s win, Kris Allen sold less, and Lee less than Kris. Plus, the reputation of Season 9 being so boring. Funny since the Lauren/Scotty final seems like a snooze-fest to me.

  • Kitwana

    Mel1
    05/23/2011 – 10:03 pm
    As others have posted, RCA and 19 are separate entities. This really looks bad for AI. I cannot believe they cannot squeeze in two minutes for Lee.

    Yes, AI is separate from 19.  Yes AI is a business. If the show does not think having Lee on the show can get ratings or some other benefit, the show won’t have him on.  However, isn’t Lee managed by Simon Fuller’s company?  Surely, that connection should carry some weight in getting him on the show.  If not, Lee should seriously consider firing his managers.  If they can’t get him on AI, what else can he expect from them?  Maybe they got him on that KISSFM viewing party as a consolation but quite frankly, it is very small consolation.  If I were Lee, I would be asking his management some tough questions.  Some might say he should be happy with any management at this point but I’m not sure about that.  If your management does not believe in you and your vision as an artist, they will not be able to sell you.  I look at someone like Gina Orr who is not as big as 19 but is 100% committed to Crystal and wonder whether Lee is better off with someone like that rather than being a low priority in a bigger company.

  • Andy11

    Idol is a business but the original business was to emphasize the winner. That now seems to have changed–they even have non winners in the opening credits. This does let them decide to back whoever they want to and also to throw anyone they want to under the bus, even if the person is “The American Idol” of the season. Simon used to emphasize the importance of winning, but nobody is doing that this year at all. I don’t know in the long run whether embracing the idea that “winning doesn’t mean anything” is going to be good for a show like this. Having at least a token “Miss America” moment does have value in showing that winning does mean something–but TPTB apparently disagree.

  • Incipit

    Yes, Idol PTB are whatever pithed off people want to call them. They always were. I can’t sustain outrage at a stone for being a stone, KWIM? JMO.

    So, on another topic in the headlines tonight – I *chuckled* at the pic from the rehearsals for DavidC’s Walmartian Souncheck that mj posted- because – as someone on Twitter noted – it looked as if Kyle had gotten his drum rhythm going so fast that he finally exploded! Heh.

    WMSoundcheck promised in progress tweets – and they came through. The upshot, after @ Four hours in the studio, was Five songs, expected to be up in mid June, but with a sneak preview as early as next week – and ended with – “Stay tuned for an exclusive video clip tomorrow!”

    A reporter for Young Hollywood, Kinsey Schofield, was also there, and posted a few pics on her Twitter page.

    So, I guess Kyle didn’t really explode – but it sure looked like it in that pic. *snerk*

  • Inconnu

    Well, this news totally sucks.

    I’m one of those ‘I’m not a fan but’… He’s last year’s winner and he should appear on the show. It’s tradition. What a mean and humiliating thing to do to one of their own! I really hope it’s gonna hurt them more in the long run.

    Just my opinion.

  • Kirsten

     However, isn’t Lee managed by Simon Fuller’s company?  Surely, that connection should carry some weight in getting him on the show.  If not, Lee should seriously consider firing his managers.  If they can’t get him on AI, what else can he expect from them?  Maybe they got him on that KISSFM viewing party as a consolation but quite frankly, it is very small consolation.  If I were Lee, I would be asking his management some tough questions

    I don’t think Lee was at that Simon Fuller Hollywood Star event today. If Fuller was his manager, perhaps that has recently changed. Most of the people associated with him were there today.

    Also, hasn’t Lee also been removed from the line-up for the KISS event? Something is going on.

  • Fullmoon

    *Shrug* I mean, Rock and Roll was always supposed to push the borders. That’s what Steve Tyler did back in the day. But maybe that’s why we have Country Idol this year…god forbid anyone should be offended by art! :)

    We’re talking Idol here. Idol Rockers are suppose to be “nice boys” that cannot push any boundaries for the sake of their art. They need to stay catnip for middle America.

  • Q3

    Difference was that when the 2005 Final happened, Fantasia was on tour and could not be at the Final.

    As far as I know, Lee is completely available.

  • tripp_ncwy

    However, isn’t Lee managed by Simon Fuller’s company?

    No, Lee is managed by 19M. Fuller’s company is XIX. Fuller had left 19 by the time Lee was signed.

    If Lee is dropped by RCA/19 would he still be on the hook for the remainder of his idol contract. three-year merchandising contract & 10yr percentage of earnings payout if he signs with someone else?

  • Willis

    I voted for Lee in the finale last year. I liked him during the season on many performances. I was hoping he would have aimed for more folky songs or Springsteen type style post-Idol. I wasn’t too impressed with his album, save 2 or 3 songs. It was the same hired writer mish mash that we get from everyone post-Idol. I do like his voice and his interpretations.

    I think this is (obviously) a snub to Lee. They should have given him a ticket, even if he had to pay his own way. Just be in the audience and give a nod on camera or something. Now, his Idol viewing party will consist of him, Medina and a bottle of Jack. “Best of luck Scotty!”

  • revcat

    It is not too late for Lee to enter either law school or medical school. I know he is a bright guy. The AI winner on the resume will ensure that he gets admitted to a A-list school.

    Me thinks you are being facetious. Lee went to continuation school and was a paint salesman. Not that there’s anything wrong with that :)

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    maybe someone could do something with that two tone hair she has going on. It looks bad, but it appears she got inspiration from her mother or is this more of a regional style.

    So it’s okay for an Idol to be too busy* to perform on Idol, but not okay for Idol to have a full schedule** and not be able to accommodate the Idol? The same Idol who already performed once this season?

    *The date of the finale is no secret well in advance. Tour managers could have worked around it.

    **Assuming Bono and The Edge have something to do with this.

  • Q3

    If Lee is dropped by RCA/19 would he still be on the hook for the remainder of his idol contract. three-year merchandising contract & 10yr percentage of earnings payout if he signs with someone else?

    19M is not on the hook for anything — they just get their cut.

    Simon Fuller has a very lucrative consulting agreement with CKX but I think that will go away with the Apollo Global takeover of CKX.

    “The $509-million price is lower than the $600 million Fuller’s group offered and the $550 million that Shapiro dangled last year. But Fuller, Shapiro and Sillerman failed to persuade CKX that they had the wherewithal to seal a deal.”

    And anyway, what happens to Lee really doesn’t matter financially to anyone — hence he is not on the show.

  • McCreerian

    Difference was that when the 2005 Final happened, Fantasia was on tour and could not be at the Final.

    As far as I know, Lee is completely available.

    Maybe they didn’t think he would have enough time to rehearse since he just got back from his Asian Tour.

  • jpfan

    Well they did have him on once this season but this is still kinda sucky. The previous winner is usually on to “pass the torch” so to speak. Obviously, if Lee hadn’t been a bust, he’d be on.So it’s 100% about S9 being one they’re going to pretend never happened. I don’t think this has anything to do with U2. The finale is 2 hours long. They could squeeze Lee in for 1 minute if they wanted to.

    I wonder how they’re going to get Lee’s face off the credits next season.

  • CindyM

    Maybe they didn’t think he would have enough time to rehearse since he just got back from his Asian Tour.

    he just got back from performing his songs, he wouldn’t need that much rehearsal time. Plus, he tweeted that he wasn’t asked, not that he couldn’t do it.

    Kirsten, his name is gone from the kiis site, Allison and Archie are still listed. I think something is definitely going on.

  • Kitwana

    I don’t think Lee was at that Simon Fuller Hollywood Star event today. If Fuller was his manager, perhaps that has recently changed. Most of the people associated with him were there today.

    Also, hasn’t Lee also been removed from the line-up for the KISS event? Something is going on.

    You’re right. Lee is no longer at that KissFM viewing party. He was there just a few days ago.

    Cook is still with 19M and Fuller got him the boot song and 2 appearances so I’m not sure if Fuller is totally out of the picture. If Simon is no longer at 19M then those Idols still with this company should seriously consider moving. I always thought that the biggest advantage of being on 19M was preferred access to the Fuller shows. If you don’t have that, then a huge advantage is lost.

  • jpfan

    I’m assuming the viewing party is tomorrow night. Very weird that he’s dropped from that unless 19 doesn’t want him visible in any way. Was Lee managed by Simon Fuller because those are the folks that benefit from Idol promo?

    There are too many S10 folk for Simon to sign to bother with the winner of S9. Or at least I can see them thinking that.

  • TheOther

    I think it’s obvious that Lee probably has been dropped from his contract – or soon will be. They are probably just waiting for after the finale to officially announce it.

  • Valentin432

    Appearing on the finale of AI in front of 30 million viewers beat any tour dates. If they wanted Fantasia in the finale, they could have scheduled her tour around that date.

    Truth is, Lee has nothing to promote. His album was done months ago and he has no single to promote.

    The only similar case was Taylor but Taylor didn’t appear on the show before the finale.

  • Q3

    I don’t think Lee was at that Simon Fuller Hollywood Star event today. If Fuller was his manager, perhaps that has recently changed. Most of the people associated with him were there today.

    I do not think this had to do with management. I think Idol has decided to forget about AI9.

    The only recording artist who was there who Simon Fuller is still listed as currently managing was Carrie. He has a partnership deal with J.Lo and Marc Anthony. He used to manage David Cook (who was there) but he also used to manage Kelly C. and Adam, and they were not there. And he never managed Kris who was there.

    Of his non-Idol clients: Victoria Beckham was there — David Beckham was not. Annie Lennox, Lewis Hamilton, Andy Murray, Carrie Underwood, Will Young, Emma Bunton, Lisa Marie Presley, Cathy Dennis, and the rest of the Spice Girls were not there.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Maybe they didn’t think he would have enough time to rehearse since he just got back from his Asian Tour.

    Didn’t Lee get back from Asia Friday? That seems like enough time but Lee has not had a full band since his last appearance on the show.

  • Pam

    So, I guess Kyle didn’t really explode – but it sure looked like it in that pic.

    Let’s see, first he faints and then he spontaneously combusted. That pic sure did make it look that way. Heh

  • tripp_ncwy

    And he never managed Kris who was there.

    I keep seeing this but Fuller is listed as Kris’ manager along with Sterling on his cd jacket. Fuller also appears the same way on Adam’s cd with Iain. Fuller was not listed that way on Lee’s cd. Iain is the only one listed. Fuller may not have taken as active roll with Kris but he was still his manager.

  • CindyM

    jpfan says:
    05/23/2011 at 11:43 pm

    I’m assuming the viewing party is tomorrow night. Very weird that he’s dropped from that unless 19 doesn’t want him visible in any way. Was Lee managed by Simon Fuller because those are the folks that benefit from Idol promo?

    The viewing party is Wednesday night, not tomorrow. I don’t think Simon was listed on his CD like on Cook, Kris and others, but he was signed to 19M.

  • leome

    I wonder how they’re going to get Lee’s face off the credits next season.

    We know where they’re putting the bush during next year’s auditions.

  • jpfan

    Maybe his brother just got the word about the finale and is pissed. But I can’t figure out why Lee is out of the viewing party gig.

    This is a weird story.

  • CindyM

    jpfan says:
    05/24/2011 at 12:00 am

    If Lee was scheduled for the viewing party, he would know he’s not on the finale. Aren’t they scheduled at the same time. Maybe his brother just got the word and is pissed. But I can’t figure out why Lee is out of the viewing party gig.

    No, because the show is live to the East Coast, taped for the West Coast. The viewing party is scheduled for the west coast airing and is right down the street from the Nokia.

  • standtotheright

    The only recording artist who was there who Simon Fuller is still listed as currently managing was Carrie

    The presentation of the XIX and 19 sites is so inscrutable that I don’t think anyone can read the tea leaves to say what relationship any 19M client does or does not have with Fuller at this point. Clearly Fuller is still capable of generating opportunities and inviting people to high profile appearances.

    Regardless, if 19 is still managing DeWyze in any capacity and didn’t have him attend the presentation, that is a very bad sign for their future relationship, insofar as one still exists.

    Again, I feel for the guy.

  • tripp_ncwy

    jpfan, the viewing party was for the west coast peeps after the live show has already aired and being shown on tape delay for the west coast.

  • suenigma

    As far as I know, Fuller is still Cook’s manager. Hence him personally getting Cook the Bootsong gig. Why do you think he isn’t?

  • tripp_ncwy

    Wouldn’t Cook be completing his last year of his initial management contract with 19 (3 yrs). Fuller may be trying to woo him over to XIX like Carrie. We do know that Fuller will personally manage Scotty & Lauren no matter who wins.

  • tripp_ncwy

    As far as I know, Fuller is still Cook’s manager. Hence him personally getting Cook the Bootsong gig. Why do you think he isn’t?

    Choosing the boot song & performer has always been a perk given to Fuller. I guess as far as management we will have to wait and see when Cook’s album comes out. :)

  • Elliegrll

    And he never managed Kris who was there.

    Simon did manage Kris. The managers on his album are listed as Simon Fuller and Stirling Mcllwaine, who is also the manager of Daughtry. More than likely, Simon Fuller never personally managed anyone, not even Adam, but as the founder of 19M, he would be listed as the manager of anyone signed with 19M, even Kris and Adam, and they were managed personally by Stirling, and whoever is listed on Adam’s cd.

    Lee’s relationship with Simon Fuller is different, since Simon was in the process of completing the sell of 19 to CKX last year, he didn’t take on Lee or anyone else. It’s Lee who was never managed by Fuller, but he is still managed by 19M.

  • goboywonder

    If Idol doesn’t treat their winners like winners, who will want to win? Lee is certainly better off now than he was before Idol, but still not cool. *makesstinkface*

    According to this tweet, David A. will have a show in Vietnam: http://twitpic.com/51qsty

  • Valentin432

    The so-called tradition of invinting winners to perform on finale never existed in the first place. Fantasia didn’t perform on the season 4 finale.

    Lee was invited to promote his single earlier in the season when it was mcuh more interesting him to do so.

    Survivor doesn’t invite its winner the next year, to my knowledge DWTS winners don’t get to dance during the finale the next season, neither do SYTYCD winners or X factor winners. I have no idea for America’s Got Talent so maybee someone could fill me in.

    The fact that it happened for a few straight seasons doesn’t mean that it was always meant to happen.

  • JosieCat

    Wouldn’t Cook be completing his last year of his initial management contract with 19 (3 yrs). Fuller may be trying to woo him over to XIX like Carrie.

    It’s all very confusing. Roger Widynowski has moved from 19 to XIX, but is still accompanying Adam and David for red carpet appearances. Does that mean their management has followed Simon Fuller to XIX?

  • artemis

    Since Lee was never managed by Simon Fuller, there was no reason for him to be at the event.
    Lee was at a songwriting session today with Jamie Hartman, who is also writing with Kris. He has a summer tour coming up. The only two events I’ve checked on, all the reserved seats are sold out; don’t know how the others are selling. I don’t have any knowledge about his future with 19, but now seems an unlikely time for him to be dropped.

  • EmyR

    If Idol doesn’t treat their winners like winners, who will want to win?

    It’s not like they’ve treated all winners badly. This is obviously a result of Lee being a draw for ratings. His season was boring, he’s the lowest selling winner ever, and there’s absolutely no buzz about him right now. Sad, but true.

    In any case, I think most people who go on Idol know now it’s more about using Idol as a platform rather than necessarily becoming the winner. Yes, the winner gets more initial perks coming out the gate, but whoever maximizes their exposure will be the true winner. Several contestants have talked about this in the past, like David Cook and Adam Lambert, and almost all the kids that came off this season mentioned it in some way.

  • Trina

    Yeah Roger has been at some appearances with David the last month or so and he hasnt been with him at those in a very long time. I had wondered when Roger started appearing with him if that was a sign David might be with XIX now or heading there.

    When the news about Simon managing the winner and runner-up this year came out they made it sound like he took a break from managing Idols last year so I don’t think he was involved with Lee.

  • Fullmoon

    Simon Fuller will manage ‘American Idol’ winner for the first time in years

    Simon Fuller in partnership with 19 Entertainment and CKX, Inc., will be managing this year’s winner of “American Idol”.

    “American Idol” is currently the No.1 show in America. It was created and is executive produced by Simon Fuller.

    This new arrangement will be the first time that Simon Fuller has personally managed an act from the show since he launched Adam Lambert’s career in 2009. Over the last eight years, Simon Fuller has guided the multi-platinum careers of a select handful of award-winning Idol singers, including Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, Jordin Sparks, David Cook and Chris Daughtry.

    http://mjsbigblog.com/simon-fuller-to-manage-this-years-american-idol-winner.htm

    ETA: Note he has guided the careers of the others

  • Suzanne

    I’m bummed that Lee won’t be surprising Lauren and Scotty with cars.

  • Grammie Kari

    This the the 10th Anniversary of the show! EVERY IDOL WINNER SHOULD BE IN A GROUP NUMBER – EXCEPTIONS!

  • Weebs787

    This is obviously a result of Lee being a draw for ratings.

    Yes, but how many people tune in or out for any given past- Idol winner at the finale anyway? I doubt the previous years winner was ever the reason why people watched. His ratings draw, good or bad, really means nothing. 90% of the viewers tune in to see who wins.

    Reading Mike’s tweets and the sudden absence at the viewing party, lead me to believe there is something more to this than he just wasn’t asked.

  • Suzanne

    If most people were tuning in just to we who wins, there’d be a huge spike in the viewership for the last 10min of the broadcast. The fluctuation in tv audience just isn’t that dramatic.

  • standtotheright

    The so-called tradition of invinting winners to perform on finale never existed in the first place. Fantasia didn’t perform on the season 4 finale.

    One exception in 9 seasons for someone who was actively touring does not mean that there is not a precedent based on the other 8.

    We can talk about ratings and reminders until people are blue in the face, but given that the two hour show is most likely going to celebrate a) joke auditioners b) “humorous” celebrity cameos and c) lots of other things that have nothing to do with branding the two finalists as stars, I don’t see that there was any pressing need to take 3 whole minutes away from DeWyze. It’s a big snub, and a big change, and all the rationalizations in the world won’t change that essential truth.

  • Suzanne

    what’s this viewing party anyway? Isn’t it better to be seen on the red carpet and in the audience at the Nokia than to be in another venue singing a few songs and then watching a screen? It’s not like the viewing party will get airtime on the Finale.

  • Inconnu

    The viewing party is held after the Live show (Top 2), across the street from the Nokia theatre.

  • Valentin432

    If most people were tuning in just to we who wins, there’d be a huge spike in the viewership for the last 10min of the broadcast. The fluctuation in tv audience just isn’t that dramatic.

    http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/318109792

    American Idol (Fox)
    8:00 p.m. – Viewers: 18.41 million (#1), A18-49: 6.1/21 (#1)
    8:30 p.m. – Viewers: 21.07 million (#1), A18-49: 6.9/22 (#1)
    9:00 p.m. – Viewers: 24.30 million (#1), A18-49: 8.2/23 (#1)
    9:30 p.m. – Viewers: 28.83 million (#1), A18-49: 10.2/27
    (#1)

    http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63310451/m/547100312

    8pm
    FOX – American Idol — 7.6/26 A18-49, 22.627 million viewers
    8:30pm
    FOX — American Idol — 8.7/26 A18-49, 25.876 million viewers
    9pm
    FOX — American Idol — 10.3/28 A18-49, 29.777 million viewers
    9:30pm
    FOX — American Idol — 11.5/29 A18-49, 32.548 million
    viewers

    I could go back even further, but I doubt I would find anything different.

    Those are huge half hour spikes.
    I think there are a lot of people who tune in just to see the results.

  • suenigma

    Fullmoon, Fuller personally managed those people just as much as he did Adam. The writer just didn’t want to be redundant and say “personally managed” again so they used the term “guided”.

    ETA: If Adam was the only one that he had personally managed off of Idol then they would have said that, rather than the first time since Adam.

  • Valentin432

    One exception in 9 seasons for someone who was actively touring does not mean that there is not a precedent based on the other 8.

    The other 8 had all singles or albums to promote except Taylor who had not appeared at all during the season.

    a) joke auditioners

    Joke auditioners have been a staple of AI since the very beginning, It’s the best rated portion of the season most years and a lot of people seem to enjoy them.

    I don’t see that there was any pressing need to take 3 whole minutes away from DeWyze. It’s a big snub, and a big change, and all the rationalizations in the world won’t change that essential truth.

    An appearance in the finale was never a due, the winner gets a recording contract, that’s all that there’s even been promised, you can’t count on something happening just because it happened before.

  • Brook52

    I will be forever grateful that Lee won American Idol last year- I am a big fan and love his pre and post idol music- so I guess that I am done with watching the show. I really have not been able to attend to it this year- it seemed unreal- there was nothing to hold my attention. I am a great believer in doing the right thing- at all times in life- and not having Lee on the finale is really just the last straw in terms of the balance of making money and being kind. I am sure that my one turned off TV will not hurt the Idol franchise- but at least I will be able to live with my conscience- and I know that Lee will continue to make music that I will get to experience. My new favorite is Pretty Eyes.

  • suenigma

    LOL. I would say that Kelly, Jordin, Carrie, Cook and Chris have had had just as many quality promo opportunities as Adam. I also think that Adam has deserved all of the opportunites that he has had – just like the others have. Fuller has done right by all of them, IMO.

    I do know that Fuller personally attended several of Cook’s concerts on the Declaration Tour – even some of the smaller gigs. He seems like a pretty supportive and hands on guy.

  • Fullmoon

    LOL. I would say that Kelly, Jordin, Carrie, Cook and Chris have had had just as many quality promo opportunities as Adam. I also think that Adam has deserved all of the opportunites that he has had – just like the others have. Fuller has done right by all of them, IMO.

    I do know that Fuller personally attended several of Cook’s concerts on the Declaration Tour – even some of the smaller gigs. He seems like a pretty supportive and hands on guy.

    I won’t dispute any of this and yes Adam is just as deserving.

  • suenigma

    ETA: If I was going to be a lazy reporter I would use Carrie’s name to single out. J/S

    They singled out Adam because this year’s winner will be the first person that he has personally managed since Adam, which was the whole crux of the piece. If Carrie had been the last person off of Idol that he had personally managed, then I’m sure they would have pointed that out.

  • songsungblue

    I am a great believer in doing the right thing- at all times in life- and not having Lee on the finale is really just the last straw in terms of the balance of making money and being kind.

    I can tell you this, having been around the industry a bit: There is no balance between making money and being kind. They aren’t trying to be kind, they’re trying to make money. If Lee made them money, they’d be kissing his rear and treating him like Carrie. Think of it this way: He was hired to do a job and he hasn’t done that job so they’ve let him go. It’s not personal.

    I do feel for the guy, but it’s the music business not a high school talent show – a business that is currently crumbling under their feet. If anything, they’re protecting the franchise.

  • Fullmoon

    I think since this year is the 10th Anniversary of Idol and the end of an old era and a beginning of a new one from the judges to how they are handling the contestants and the many changes this year they should have at least gave Lee his last hoorah. They got the final 2 results they wanted so at this point if their winner doesn’t measure up they can “look at themselves in the mirror.”

  • girlygirl

    As others have said, Simon Fuller did manage Kris — he’s clearly listed as one of the managers on his CD. In fact, I would bet that Simon still manages Kris, Adam, Carrie, David Cook, etc. There is probably some sort of agreement between 19 and Fuller’s new company.

    As for AI not putting Lee on the finale because of ratings, to me, that’s just silly. A 3 or 4 minute spot is not going to affect the finale’s ratings in any meaningful way. The only half-hour portion of the finale that ever shows a spike in the ratings is the last half-hour, when more people tune in to find out who wins. Other than that, the ratings are fairly steady for each half-hour block. Most People wouldn’t suddenly turn off their tv for Lee’s brief spot, then turn the tvs on again as soon as his 4 minutes are done.

  • Trina

    This is kind of interesting…a friend from another fandom is a big Judas Priest fan and she was telling me that they just hired a new guitar player and the band is holding a press conference tomorrow in Hollywood to formally introduce him, and she’s hearing that the band has a couple of other big things going on this week. She asked me if I heard any rumors of them possibly singing with James. Wondering if there’s any merit to it?? How bad is it that I’m thinking probably not since these finale pairings never make sense? lol

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    As for AI not putting Lee on the finale because of ratings, to me, that’s just silly. A 3 or 4 minute spot is not going to affect the finale’s ratings in any meaningful way. The only half-hour portion of the finale that ever shows a spike in the ratings is the last half-hour, when more people tune in to find out who wins. Other than that, the ratings are fairly steady for each half-hour block. Most People wouldn’t suddenly turn off their tv for Lee’s brief spot, then turn the tvs on again as soon as his 4 minutes are done.

    It makes sense if Bono and The Edge negotiations just finalized. They have a certain amount of ad time they can’t fiddle with as it’s their bread and butter. They have to give the current contestants their fair share of duets/group numbers etc, since they generate interest and buzz right now (and have a tour to promote).

    So they may not have had time for Lee once Bono and the Edge signed on? Or perhaps they hate him after pimping him so hard last season? Or maybe they invited him to appear but not perform (as he performed earlier in the season) and he turned them down in a huff because he didn’t want to hand off the Idol sash if he couldn’t perform? Maybe he pissed them off by that and they blacklisted him from the KISS gig. Maybe he’s really difficult? Maybe Idol peeps are money-grubbing asshats. Maybe both. ;-)

    To many ifs to make judgment calls.

    ETA: Okay, we know TPTB are money-grubbing asshats. That’s a given.

  • EmyR

    As others have said, Simon Fuller did manage Kris — he’s clearly listed as one of the managers on his CD. In fact, I would bet that Simon still manages Kris, Adam, Carrie, David Cook, etc. There is probably some sort of agreement between 19 and Fuller’s new company.

    Of course he was a part of the management team, but the question was about the distinction over who he personally managed, and Kris has never been listed amongst those people. He’s also never “personally managed” more than one from a season, I don’t believe, so that might be why. I’m not sure why that’s such a big deal, though.

    The only half-hour portion of the finale that ever shows a spike in the ratings is the last half-hour, when more people tune in to find out who wins. Other than that, the ratings are fairly steady for each half-hour block. Most People wouldn’t suddenly turn off their tv for Lee’s brief spot, then turn the tvs on again as soon as his 4 minutes are done.

    The point isn’t that they’ll turn it off, but rather than he won’t increase the ratings at all in the first place. I’m sure they hope that if they space their bigger acts out enough, there will be stronger ratings overall in addition to the spike that always occurs for the winner announcement portion.

    So they may not have had time for Lee once Bono and the Edge signed on?

    As many people have pointed out, Lee’s tweet said he was never asked to perform which means he was not canceled in favor of another act.

  • Valentin432

    She asked me if I heard any rumors of them possibly singing with James. Wondering if there’s any merit to it?? How bad is it that I’m thinking probably not since these finale pairings never make sense? lol

    It would make a lot of sense as a pairing for James and that press conferrence in Hollywood is a big coincidence to say the least.

    James should be a lock to get a duet because he placed 4th and he was a favorite all year. Steven is going to perform but it could be with another contestant or with the whole top 13 and U2 probably won’t perform with a contestant, so Judas Priest is as good a guess as any.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    As many people have pointed out, Lee’s tweet said he was never asked to perform which means he was not canceled in favor of another act.

    He said he wasn’t asked to perform. He could have been asked to participate in another way. I dunno. If they couldn’t secure Bono (who is a big draw) then they may have used him as filler. Point is, he didn’t say he wasn’t asked to be there at all, so all the rest is conjecture.

    Has any other Idol winner performed twice on the season after they left? I have no idea. But I’m sure someone out there has the stats! :)

  • girlygirl

    On a random note, the new mod(s) at KAO are doing a great job so far.

  • girlygirl

    It’s always been my understanding that Adam has two managers, just like all the other Idols appear to do. Simon and some other guy who actually handles the majority of the day-to-day work. So I don’t get why people think Simon personally manages Adam’s career any more than he does with any of the other Idols who have him listed as one of their mgrs. Simon doesn’t even personally manage Carrie’s career – there’s a lady named Ann who is her day-to-day manager.

    Also, I really doubt he is going to personally manage Scotty or Lauren. He’ll likely assign them to one of the people working for him, or they’ll have on of the people 19 as their day-to-day manager.

    The original press release says this:

    Simon Fuller in partnership with 19 Entertainment and CKX, Inc., will be managing this year’s winner of “American Idol”

    IN PARTNERSHIP WITH is the key phrase here.

  • cowboysfan

    I hated Lee while he was on the show, but even I can see why some people liked him. He actually put some credible emotion into his singing. The Lauren/Scotty phenomenon baffles me completely. They are soulless, cookie cutter parodies of singers who have been popular before. There is nothing original or unique about either one of them, and it’s not like they’re anything special from a talent standpoint. Scotty may actually be a worse technical singer than Lee.

  • karenc

    PJ:

    Has any other Idol winner performed twice on the season after they left? I have no idea. But I’m sure someone out there has the stats!

    Both David Cook and Kris Allen performed twice the season they left. David Cook did Come Back to Me in late March or early April, then did Permanent at the finale. Kris did Let it Be during semifinals last year, and then did the Truth at the finale. Also, David Cook actually appeared twice last year, once he did Jumping Jack Flash, and he appeared during Idol Gives back with a video.

  • karenc

    cowboysfan says:
    05/24/2011 at 3:19 am
    I hated Lee while he was on the show, but even I can see why some people liked him. He actually put some credible emotion into his singing. The Lauren/Scotty phenomenon baffles me completely. They are soulless, cookie cutter parodies of singers who have been popular before. There is nothing original or unique about either one of them, and it’s not like they’re anything special from a talent standpoint. Scotty may actually be a worse technical singer than Lee

    I liked Lee, and that’s one of the things I do like about his singing is the emotion he puts in, and I think he has an interesting voice. I understand though that not everyone is going to like all voices.

    And about Lauren and Scotty, I think so too. They haven’t really differentiated themselves as artists. Maybe that just takes experience.

  • EmyR

    It’s always been my understanding that Adam has two managers, just like all the other Idols appear to do. Simon and some other guy who actually handles the majority of the day-to-day work. So I don’t get why people think Simon personally manages Adam’s career any more than he does with any of the other Idols who have him listed as one of their mgrs. Simon doesn’t even personally manage Carrie’s career – there’s a lady named Ann who is her day-to-day manager.

    No one is saying his involvement was quite so in depth as you seem to imply, and I’m not sure why you singled out Adam when David Cook was also listed. The fact is that Fuller and 19 both said he was personally managing Adam, as he did with others like Cook and Carrie.

    This distinction was not applied to all Idols who are under 19, so it is a little unique and interesting that he will be doing so again for this year’s winner. It’s the phrasing that is different.

    Lol I’m not sure why it’s a big deal. It’s not like it’s an insult to anyone to not have had that statement about them in regards to Fuller.

    Point is, he didn’t say he wasn’t asked to be there at all, so all the rest is conjecture.

    My point wasn’t about whether he’d be there a all, but simply that he stated he wasn’t asked to perform meaning they didn’t replace him at the last minute b/c they were able to score someone bigger. It means he wasn’t asked in the first place to perform.

    Of course he may still do something else on the show, but the issue being discussed was his lack of performing and why and my comment was in response to someone asking if it was b/c they got Bono.

  • sma11ie

    On a random note, the new mod(s) at KAO are doing a great job so far.

    Are they volunteer mods or actual Sony employees? If the latter, color me shocked =P.

    Not a big Lee fan, but this sucks. I actually wanted all the winners for the 10th anniversary, but that dream died since Kelly won’t be there. Still, Lee should be there as the reigning Idol.

  • Tess

    I find the analogy of Miss America and Idol’s former winners a bit funny. Miss America has a single year “reign”, shows up for her de-crowning and then is sent out into the universe, probably never to be heard from again (if anyone knew who she was in the first place).

    Idol didn’t de-throne Kelly at the end of her year…in fact because she was doing so well they kept supporting her even as the new guy was being crowned. And then in season two, one winner but two “Idols” were making the rounds and getting the press. Tradition broken right out of the gate.

    My point is that Idol is all about who is able to benefit the franchise…and who isn’t. And Idol “allows” any former contestant to use their moniker when they so wish….how often has “American Idol” been voiced over a PA system as the NA is sung. But just as Idol giveth it also takes away. Lee will forever wear the Idol Season 9 Winner crown but the show has no obligation to publicly endorse Lee….if they feel Lee isn’t holding up his end of the bargain they don’t have an obligation to try and boost him up at every opportunity. The show is not a crutch for someone who hasn’t been able to strut their stuff on their own.

    And again….I hate people who resort to Twitter to air their personal grievances and to divulge too much information. Lee didn’t need to cry in his cheerios in a public way….if he just hadn’t shown up peeps could have speculated but no one would be the wiser. Now Lee looks like a looser and he has turned AI into the big bad wolf (ya know the show that gave him endless opportunity that he couldn’t take advantage of).

  • weareallinnocent

    Now Lee looks like a looser

    Only now? lol j/k

    I totally get that this year has not turned out the way that Lee saw it playing out in his head as the confetti fell last year. And, humanly, he has every right to be feeling it sincerely right about now. But…

    It’s a new day in the Idol-verse. So many changes and this is one. It doesn’t feel quite right to me, and I am not a fan of Lee (or his special key. ;-) )

    Honestly, though, I see this as a real gift to him. Unless production planned to auto-tune him live, his performance would likely pale in comparison to this year’s Top 2 (and p.s., I don’t like either of them either, lol) to say nothing of the “stars” appearing, too. Most likely, it would highlight the vocal talent differential in a very real way. That would do nothing at all to promote Lee or serve his interests.

    Should he have the chance no matter what the outcome? That’s a different question. And, at least this year, the answer appears to be, “No.”

  • Hazehel

    Those are huge half hour spikes.

    The spike is even bigger for the last few minutes of the show.

    Season 7 – >40 million for the last 5 minutes
    Season 8 – 40.1 million for the last 7 minutes
    Season 9 – 34.4 million for the last 7 minutes

    I don’t think there were figures of the last few minutes for years previous to those.

    If they wanted Fantasia in the finale, they could have scheduled her tour around that date.

    So by that argument they didn’t want Cook for last year’s gathering of winners at the finale?

    An appearance in the finale was never a due, the winner gets a recording contract, that’s all that there’s even been promised,

    That is hardly the point.

    Coming straight after the report of the kids getting only $1,000 per show for their tour, Idol is showing its calculating greed, meanness, and shamelessness. It’s just capitalism red in tooth and claw I suppose, no place for sentiment, certainly can’t expect it to show any decency.

    If the show wants to have a reputation as a ruthless money-making machine with no soul, no redeeming quality at all, that’s fine. I for one simply won’t bother wasting my breath defending it. And now with the glut of reality singing shows, I’m already starting to get tired of all this and this might be the last season I’ll be watching.

  • poster

    Tess, explain to me how Lee was “crying in his Cheerios.” ??

    Lee has worked very, very hard since he won Idol. All he ever did was enter a contest, win the most public votes, and work hard at his craft and to take advantage of the opportunity presented to him. This idol blackballing baffles me. He has never done anything but speak respectfully of Idol and all the people associated with Idol. Music business is a fickle one, that’s for sure.

    I have a strong feeling Lauren Ailaina might just crush under the pressure tonight…I hope not, but I think she’s a fragile one, and this week and tonight’s performances are not for the faint of heart.

  • luly

    Are they volunteer mods or actual Sony employees? If the latter, color me shocked =P.

    They are sony employees.

  • Valentin432

    So by that argument they didn’t want Cook for last year’s gathering of winners at the finale?

    Last year’s gathering was hardly a promotional event and more of a celebration of Simon Cowell.

    Cook had a previous commitment and he didn’t see fit to cancel it to sing two lines of that “Together We Are One”song.

    From my point of view it’s very different from singing a single to promote his album.

    Bottom line: if Fantasia management didn’t schedule a tour date around the finale to let her promote a single there, they are dumb, I can’t quite say the same about Cook.

    Coming straight after the report of the kids getting only $1,000 per show for their tour

    If that’s true, then IA it’s a shame.
    I’ll wait to see it reported by a more reliable source than TMZ tough.

    Idol is showing its its calculating greed, meanness, and shamelessness

    Idol winners coming back was all about self promotion too.
    All of them came back to promote singles/albums (altough David Cook did do something different with “Permanent”).

    If this was all for the good of the AI franchise, then Kris would have come back and sing “Heartless” to celebrate his success on the show, not a barely known single.
    That was all about self promotion as were all the other appearances from the previous winners.

    All these contestants signed up for Idol to get rich, famous and try to make it big in the recording industry.

    I don’t see how not inviting Lee to perform on the finale shows “meaness” or “shamelessness”.

    If you want to see how X Factor treats its own, it’s way worse and winners never perform on the next season’s finale.

  • Hazehel

    Last year’s gathering was hardly a promotional event and more of a celebration of Simon Cowell.

    Which isn’t my point. Schedule can’t be change just like that. David Cook didn’t want to change his schedule because he had an obligation to be somewhere else.

    Idol winners coming back was all about self promotion too.

    This is like an employer arguing that because you have advantages working for them , it is therefore right that they can treat you like shit.

    Sometimes it’s simply a matter of mutual obligation, what most decent people do for each other. You can perfectly well argue that Idol is within their right to do it, and I don’t want to argue about that, I’m just saying that is not what decent people do, and I have no interest in standing alongside people who have no sense of decency.

  • kvwicks13

    He was hired to do a job and he hasn’t done that job

    I think that’s a bit unfair to say. He had the least amount of promo from RCA than any other winner. RCA didn’t care, they were on their way out the door.

    I’m glad Lee tweeted his fans what the real story was. Why cover up for Nigel and crew.

    And I love when posters say Lee was so boring. Yeah Lauren and Scotty are balls of fire, whooaa, NOT!

  • tls62

    Eh, it’s a reality TV show. They filled their obligation to Lee. He got his shot. It didn’t work out. Time to move on. I highly doubt America will even notice he’s not there. Idol is there to make money, not to be our loyal, caring friend. If this situation truly upsets people, turn the channel I guess. :)

  • Valentin432

    Which isn’t my point. Schedule can’t be change just like that. David Cook didn’t want to change his schedule because he had an obligation to be somewhere else.

    And IMO, Fantasia would have changed her schedule if they invited her to sing a single in the finale.

    If this is all a big tradition, they would have let her known before she even had planned her tour and they would have scheduled it around that date.

    I’m just saying that is not what decent people do

    I don’t see how this “Previous Idol winners get to perform on the next finale” was ever seen as rule or an obligation.
    We’re not talking about a firm canceling christmas day or something like that.

    I have already mentioned it but AI is not the lone reality show out there and all the other shows that I know of don’t invite the winners to perform on the finale, at least not regularly.

    Australian Idol didn’t invite the Season 2, 3, 5 winners to perform, X Factor UK never has the previous winners on the finale, I didn’t get any info on AGT, SYTYCD never has them either (except for last year) etc.

    Appearing on the finale was always about promoting some product for the winner, here Lee has nothing to promote, they already invited him to do his single on the show like Fantasia on Season 4.

    All he can hope is to have as much success as Fantasia did the following years and come back to perform on the show.

  • kvwicks13

    It’s not an obligation but it has been a tradition. How can you not feel slighted when after 9 seasons, you were the only one not invited back.

    Even if Crystal had won (and I was not a fan at all), and if they did the same to her, I would still say it was not the right thing to do. It’s like they are trying to forget Season 9 ever existed!

  • tripp_ncwy

    Last year’s gathering was hardly a promotional event and more of a celebration of Simon Cowell.

    Which isn’t my point. Schedule can’t be change just like that. David Cook didn’t want to change his schedule because he had an obligation to be somewhere else.

    I agree sometimes schedules just can’t change. As we have seen with idol most of the plans are finalized at the last minute. It happened in S9 when Cook could not attend the gathering. This season Kris had a meeting about the finale just last Friday, still not sure what that was about. Also, if you remember the Season 8 finale was changed and some of the finalist performances got cut all together, Scott MacIntyre and Matt Giraud’s duet.

    As far as Lee, the previous champion usually performs during the first half hour of the show so I doubt Bono would take that spot. They would save Bono for later in the show to draw in more viewers.

  • tls62

    And I love when posters say Lee was so boring. Yeah Lauren and Scotty are balls of fire, whooaa, NOT!

    Fear not. If any of these S10 kids don’t cut it, you’ll see them disappear too. This is a business and Idol is trying to save it’s own ass. Unwanted baggage will be thrown overboard.

  • mmb

    No doubt this is s snub and if Lee had an expectation of performing at the finale then I do feel badly for him. That being said I am not as outraged as others. Lee did get a performance spot when his second single dropped, at a point in time when an appearance was more likely to boost cd sales. So it’s not like the show has completely ignored him. At the moment he doesn’t have a single or charity single to promote, and at least in the past few years the winners have had something to promote on the finale. The producers have already shown their willingness to depart from the past by including a few high profile non winners in the opening credit montage. Maybe the finale will focus a lot more on the s10 contestants and less on guest stars and former idols?

  • kmd

    All unwanted baggage will be thrown overboard. It is on to the new idols and forget the old idols. The only exception is really Carrie. They also are dealing with a new label. Universal is going to want to push their own idols that were signed next year not other label’s idols. It is a cut throat business and AI is no exception.

  • Hazehel

    If this is all a big tradition, they would have let her known before she even had planned her tour and they would have scheduled it around that date

    There were only 2 seasons before that, they did everything pretty much on the fly in those two seasons, changing things as they go along. You can only have a tradition after many more seasons.

    I don’t see how this “Previous Idol winners get to perform on the next finale” was ever seen as rule or an obligation.

    It’s an obligation to treat other people well.

  • saffagirl

    I feel sorry for Lee and his fans, I know I would be devastated if it were Kris or Cook. I was shocked at this when i first read it, but when you think about it, how many people have gotten to promote two singles off their album in one season? Granted, I’ve only watched American idol since season 6, but i can’t think of a single person (maybe Carrie?). Both Kris and Cook got two performances the year after their win, however for each of them, one of those were to promote a charity single. And lets not forget that Kris’ first performance was during the semi-final rounds and it was part of Idol Gives Back. I highly doubt that if Kris had performed LLWD during the competition that he would’ve had the opportunity to perform TT on the finale. I wouldn’t be surprised if Lee’s management knew he would only get one performance and out of desperation, took it as soon as they could to try and ignite his sales. I am sure they’ll find some way to highlight Lee, perhaps Seacrest will chat to him on stage or something. I mean, I know it’s not the same as performing and a major let down for his fans but it just doesn’t make sense to give a valuable performance spot to him just because, even if it is tradition. And i’m still hoping that there will be some sort of reunion, and we’ll get to see him and the other winners etc sing a few notes. I may be in the minority here, but besides a few harsh things that were said about Season 9, i haven’t felt like AI is “ashamed” of Lee, but thats just my opinion.

  • idolhound2011

    I could care less if Lee is on idol. Like him better than idol. I do think this will affect the voting for white guy.They will do anything for a girl win.

  • Kirsten

    And IMO, Fantasia would have changed her schedule if they invited her to sing a single in the finale.

    You’d be insane not to. We’ve certainly seen Idols cancel scheduled concerts because a spot was offered to them on the show (even non-finale). Fans going to that concert were disappointed, but also more than thrilled that their Idol was appearing on the show.

    Cook didn’t appear because he was scheduled to be at a major charity event (you just can’t cancel one of those things if you are truly serious about the event) and he didn’t leave a gap in his schedule because there was no reason he would be invited back (he wasn’t the previous year’s winner and he had nothing to promote).

    Lee isn’t the busiest dude in the world, but I’m sure he was still careful to leave the date free so he could appear.

    I do think that it is sad that we are losing all these traditions that used to be seen as winners’ perks. But given how many we’ve lost, I’m not surprised this one got jettisoned too.

    As far as Lee, the previous champion usually performs during the first half hour of the show so I doubt Bono would take that spot. They would save Bono for later in the show to draw in more viewers.

    They could have shuffled everything up to make room for Bono at the end. He’ll probably appear shortly before the announcement. I just think it is odd that we find out that Bono is appearing the same day we find out that Lee is not (maybe Bono is angry about being made to give Lee a U2 song for his coronation song and refused to be on the same stage as him. Bono did buy a business class ticket for his hat once. Maybe the dude is a total diva. I’m sure I can find a transcript of that conversation).

  • karenc

    Last year’s gathering was hardly a promotional event and more of a celebration of Simon Cowell.

    Cook had a previous commitment and he didn’t see fit to cancel it to sing two lines of that “Together We Are One”song.

    The other thing is, before David Cook committed to the charity event, he was told that he would not be appearing at the finale. The idea for the song they were singing for Simon came up only a few days before the show, and he wanted to honor his commitment to the charity.

    An appearance to promote a single would be planned much more in advance of that.

  • chrislongisland

    Scotty fans everywhere, listen to me. I hope he has insurance, because the bus is coming for him. You are going to see Lauren Alaina be treated like the CHOSEN ONE tonight, and you’ll soon find out that Scotty is the red herring TPTB wanted to stick around to make sure SHE takes the crown Wednesday.

  • ladymadonna

    Even in S4 when the tradition was still being established, Fantasia’s conflict with the finale was known and planned for well in advance. They let her sing two songs during an earlier results show to make up for the fact that she wouldn’t be able to be at the finale. This situation with Lee is obviously a different kettle of fish. I’m really still hopeful that Lee wil be appearing in some capacity, especially since it’s the tenth anniversary and I very selfishly want as many former Idols together on stage as possible.

  • Valentin432

    They let her sing two songs during the earlier results show that she appeared on to make up for the fact that she wouldn’t be able to be at the finale

    She didn’t perform two songs, she performed a medley that included her corronation song.

    That medley lasted 2 minutes 46 seconds. Lee’s performance of Beautifull Like You lasted 2 minutes 54 seconds.
    I don’t see how that performance was a compensation for the finale.

  • lucy

    I doubt that. Country sells A LOT. Kellie Pickler wasn’t the best singer but she still managed to sell 900,000 with her debut album. And none of her singles from the album manged to get into the top 10. Scotty and Lauren are in a very popular genre.

    Neither Scotty nor Lauren is a ditzy blond with a big new boob job and red high heels, however. …. They certainly have a shot at bigger sales, since they’re in country, but the jury is definitely still out. Very very hard to tell how much people will sell these days, I think.

    As for the Lee thing — Well, it just seems a very stupid tradition to break. It’s a contest. It’s its 10th anniversary year. You’ve always had the reigning champion come on, sing a bit, and give away a prize to the newbies. Just do it. Seems like a dis to your own franchise not to, to me. (not to mention the dis to Lee, who won fair and square just like everybody else who’s won the show. He’s not to blame that it was kind of a lackluster year.) I agree with Lee’s brother. It’s a soulless, lack-of-class crummy move.

  • Avari

    Haven’t read the whole thread yet. I’m not going to argue whether this is fair or unfair to Lee, but it IS surprising. Whether it’s just tradition, or a hard and fast rule, or whatever when something that is made out in the media to be as big as the idol title there is an expectation that there will be some recognition given to the current holder of the title when it is passed on. That’s all…just viewer expectation. And for that, I feel bad for Lee.

    I can think several reasons why it makes legitimate sense for Idol to not have Lee back on the finale, but there will definitely be a note of bewilderment amongst the casual viewers if they don’t have him on at all, and it would have been an excellent chance to remind the world who he is. I can just picture it: “Hey, wait a minute, where’s whatisname, the guy who won last year? That guy, you know, with the guitar? No, not THAT guy, the other guy. Oh, wait, no, did the girl with dreadlocks win? Hmm. can’t remember, oh well. Has Bono been on yet?”

  • Trina

    That speculation about Judas Priest I posted? Guess there WAS some merit because now various Fox affiliates are saying James is performing with them, Pia with Charice is another rumor..!!

    Oh Nigel I heart you sometimes.

  • Kirsten

    That speculation about Judas Priest I posted? Guess there WAS some merit because now various Fox affiliates are saying James is performing with them,

    Awe. I bet James freaked out when he found out (Hulk Hoganx2). That will be awesome.

    Pia with Charice is another rumor..!!

    Are they sure it’s Charice and they aren’t just putting a hat on Thia?

    If Pia is getting a duet, can we hope that most of the people 1-8 are getting one as well? It would be so great if this year they focused on the Idols.

    Oh Nigel I heart you sometimes.

    Uncle Nigel can be infuriating, but he knows how to put on a good show.

  • tinawina

    What is all this arguing about Fantasia? One winner out of 8 doesn’t make it one year and that is supposed to mean something about the other 7 that did it? Who cares? She was on tour. She didn’t cancel the tour date. The end.

    If Lee is not going to perform, he should be involved in some way IMO. I don’t care what other shows do, that is irrelevant. THIS show has done the “pass the torch” thing for years. To suddenly not include the guy and to cancel his performance later that night is suspect. Even if they are going to drop him, why would they need to cancel the KIIS event? You can’t wait a week to cut ties?

    Yes business is business. If they want to drop Lee then fine, drop him. But this comes across as unnecessarily mean. They lose nothing by having the dude come on stage (even if it is just to wave at the audience) and/or letting him play the afterparty.

    I don’t think most of the audience will notice. But it still stinks. Why look like asses to even a portion of your audience when you don’t have to? I don’t get why they would do it like this. Something else is going on I think.

  • Kirsten

    Yes business is business. If they want to drop Lee then fine, drop him. But this comes across as unnecessarily mean. They lose nothing by having the dude come on stage (even if it is just to wave at the audience) and/or letting him play the afterparty.

    Maybe he decided not to attend or play the after party when he found out he wasn’t going to be allowed to perform on the show? Maybe he felt they were using him and he could make a bigger deal out of it by boycotting. Maybe he played chicken and lost? (If you don’t let me perform, I’m not coming).

    We don’t really know what went on behind closed doors. Maybe they wanted him to sing in some group number (like Carrie in the S5 finale) and he pushed to perform another single.

    Goodness knows the Idol PTB can be pretty a$$y, but I’m still puzzled by these events.

    Maybe Uncle Nigel just wants people enraged again and buzzing about the show. People will tune in to the finale to see if they cut Lee out of opening credits (maybe they will replace his picture with one of those silhouettes they use when somebody misses their yearbook pictures. Or maybe just a sad little ficus tree.

  • Trina

    Here’s a Fox Atlanta article that also mentions a rumor about Beyonce singing with the girls.
    http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/our_programs/american_idol/idol-finale-who-will-perform-live-20110523-es

  • Mary102

    This is coming from someone who really didn’t like Lee on Idol or after, but I feel bad for him. I mean, just give him this, regardless. If they gave it to Taylor, I don’t see what the big deal should be. They gave it to Kris last year and it gives a nice little boost. IDK, plus he is the “reigning champion” so that should stand for something.

  • Mary102

    Unless production planned to auto-tune him live, his performance would likely pale in comparison to this year’s Top 2

    First off, I was actually pleasantly surprised by Lee when he performed earlier in the year on idol – better than I expected.

    Second, Scotty and Lauren ain’t all that and a bag of chips. Especially lately. I still maintain this is the worst final 2 ever – worse than last year.

  • tinawina

    Maybe he decided not to attend or play the after party when he found out he wasn’t going to be allowed to perform on the show? Maybe he felt they were using him and he could make a bigger deal out of it by boycotting. Maybe he played chicken and lost? (If you don’t let me perform, I’m not coming).

    We don’t really know what went on behind closed doors. Maybe they wanted him to sing in some group number (like Carrie in the S5 finale) and he pushed to perform another single.

    All true. The benefit of doubt should be extended to all parties. Let’s see what happens tomorrow night.

  • pattycake

    Funny a week ago posters were discussing how unfair it was that Andrew Garcia wasn’t invited. Seems mute now, as the reigning Idol wasn’t invited. I think Lee is boring but certainly no more boring then Lauren or Scotty. But they are invited right? Actually, I think I would be okay with it if they were not.
    I would actually rather have Lee then Gaga. I am really sick of looking at her. Every website I go to, a promo box appears. But its Interscope’s show, so I am sure we will see plenty of her.

  • TwigLA

    I’m late to this party despite seeing it all go down yesterday. I just didn’t feel like commenting.

    One thing I did not understand from the start was how Lee was going to be at the KISS viewing party and at/on the actual show at the same time. I thought maybe they were going to do a tie-in showing the Viewing party like they do with the Final 2 hometowns.

    Now to see that Lee will no longer be performing at the Viewing Party and not on the actual show, it just seems strange.

    I think this is a slap in the face to Lee and the fans of the show who voted him as the Season 9 winner. I do not think he or they deserve that. I don’t get it.

    To say that people outside of the blogosphere are the only ones who would notice is disingenuous. I think the casual viewer or fan of the show, including those who only watch the Finale will notice. I’m constantly amazed by how my octogenarian Mother can rattle off statistics about DWTS and even the most minor of changes in that show. The woman still uses a rotary phone despite all the modern phones she’s been gifted. Forget the internet with her.

    ETA: I can fully appreciate Lee’s brother’s anger and tweets. Sadly, I don’t think he did Lee any favors by it.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Rumor? There was a tweet yesterday from Jacob somthing about sing Patti. Could he be singing with Patti LaBelle?

  • Kirsten

    One thing I did not understand from the start was how Lee was going to be at the KISS viewing party and at/on the actual show at the same time.

    The show tapes for live broadcast on the East Coast. The two hour finale has been over for two hours when it starts airing on the West Coast. The viewing party was apparently right in the neighborhood of the Nokia. No problem.

    It’s how the Idols get watch the performance shows each week when they are the ones performing.

  • Valentin432

    If Lee is not going to perform, he should be involved in some way IMO. I don’t care what other shows do, that is irrelevant. THIS show has done the “pass the torch” thing for years.

    I have no idea how Kris singing his single and disapearing behind the scene was a “pass the torch moment” neither were David C, Jordin, Taylor, Carrie, Ruben or Kelly singing theirs.

    In season 2 and 3 (and apparently 5 altough I couldn’t remeber it) when the previous winners sang with the two finalists, that was a true moment of celebration of the show and its legacy but that is long gone.

    If this whole deal is to hear Lee promote an album that is dead for two months with an album track that we’ll never hear again. I’m not seeing what’s the big idol passing the torch moment that we’re missing here.

  • Kirsten

    Rumor? There was a tweet yesterday from Jacob somthing about sing Patti. Could he be singing with Patti LaBelle?

    OMG – Diva OFF. Go get it Jacob!!!!! Patti is awesome live and they can totally take it to church.

  • TwigLA

    I’m watching Fox5 NYC online and the reporter was interviewing Sanjaya. She mentioned the meme that ‘winning doesn’t matter’ and Lauren and Scotty already won. Then she said … however, it is the Winner who gets invited back the next year to perform on the Finale. WInning does matter.

    Obviously, she and many many others expect Lee to perform. To say only people on the internet will notice … I don’t think so.

  • jpfan

    If this whole deal is to hear lee promote an album that is dead for two months with an album track that we’ll never hear again. I’m not seeing what’s the big idol passing the torch moment that we’re missing here.

    It’s a packed two hour show and not really the ideal venue to promote an album. It’s supposed to be a celebration of the season and the show in general. So the past winner showing up is part of the whole feel good night. The only product that gets max promo is the winner’s coronation single.

  • tinawina

    I have no idea how Kris singing his single and disapearing behind the scene was a “pass the torch moment” neither were David C, Jordin, Taylor, Carrie, Ruben or Kelly singing theirs.

    Oh for the love. I don’t mean that literally. Just that the winner from the year before makes some kind of last appearance before the next one is crowned. It happened every year except the one where the previous winner was on tour. 7 times out of 8. And it doesn’t sound like that one who didn’t make it was not welcome.

    If you don’t get why people would expect something to happen that has happened 7 out of 8 times before then I don’t know what else there is to say. I think we should just drop it.

    Rumor? There was a tweet yesterday from Jacob somthing about sing Patti. Could he be singing with Patti LaBelle?

    PLEASE let that happen! That would be beyond awesome.

  • standtotheright

    I don’t see how this “Previous Idol winners get to perform on the next finale” was ever seen as rule or an obligation.

    Because on THIS show, which is not Australian Idol or SYTYCD or any other reality program, it has been a tradition except for the one time a winner chose not to perform.

    If this whole deal is to hear Lee promote an album that is dead for two months with an album track that we’ll never hear again. I’m not seeing what’s the big idol passing the torch moment that we’re missing here.

    They get one last moment on the big stage for their current album cycle before the next one hops on the train. This just isn’t that complicated.

    Obviously, she and many many others expect Lee to perform. To say only people on the internet will notice … I don’t think so.

    I think it’s going to be very interesting to see what the trending topics look like that night. Maybe there will be enough bread and circuses that most people won’t notice, but I’m starting to think that more will than otherwise.

    It’s just dumb. Nobody buys ad minutes based on whether or not an unsuccessful winner is going to have a performance, or S6 wouldn’t have made any money. They assume that the people who watch from the start will put up with the nonsense, and some more people will tune in for the results later on. Bono and the Edge and Gaga may juice it to the upside, but not by that much. And Lee DeWyze is simply not exciting enough either way to push it down.

  • easyrider707

    Interesting on Lee. I am big CB fan, but I totally disagree with exclusion of previous idols in any fashion. To me, the number one rated tv program 10 years running owes gratitude to ALL of the kids that performed. I saw a graph the other day that showed advertising fees and revenue per second. For 10 years AI is almost double 2-7. To not honor ALL of the previous contestants (your product) is defined as exploitation. To exploit these kids for profit without due respect for process is wrong.

  • TwigLA

    The show tapes for live broadcast on the East Coast. The two hour finale has been over for two hours when it starts airing on the West Coast. The viewing party was apparently right in the neighborhood of the Nokia. No problem.

    Oh, ok. Thanks, Kirsten. Actually, it’s over for 1 hour when it’s broadcast out here. 8 East coast is 5 here, 10 East coast is 7 here. For some reason I thought that the KISS party would be broadcast live to them (like I can watch it live online) for the party.

    I thought it was an promotion alternative to giving out tickets to the Finale for us locals. My bad :)

  • koshka

    Interesting on Lee. I am big CB fan, but I totally disagree with exclusion of previous idols in any fashion. To me, the number one rated tv program 10 years running owes gratitude to ALL of the kids that performed. I saw a graph the other day that showed advertising fees and revenue per second. For 10 years AI is almost double 2-7. To not honor ALL of the previous contestants (your product) is defined as explotation. To explode these kids for profit without due respect for process is wrong.

    I pretty much haven’t cared one way or the other with regards to Lee. TPTB have acted like morons all season, so this is just another bit of BS. I think I must have used all of my outrage earlier this season & I’ve run out. However this is the first argument that I can get behind.

  • lucy

    To not honor ALL of the previous contestants (your product) is defined as exploitation. To exploit these kids for profit without due respect for process is wrong.

    Yeah, this is my view, too. …. Unfortunately, the entertainment industry is pretty practiced at exploitation, to the point of — Hey, that’s all they do!

    It makes me mad when it happens on talent shows with raw newbies participating, though.

    I have a similar response to the non-judging judges, actually. I think that not trying to give this year’s contestants at least a little solid, thoughtful feedback on their performances was also exploitation. They’re a bunch of innocents who come in with their dreams, and some of them are very young kids, to boot. And they’ve pretty much been left to go forward into the shark pool without insights that *could* have been provided to give them some idea what they’ll face.

    I don’t like to see an excess of exploitation on Idol. They make enough money. They can afford to be a little bit helpful and ethical, given that they’re dealing with innocent amateurs and children; it wouldn’t cost them many benjamins.

  • iani

    “If this whole deal is to hear Lee promote an album that is dead for two months with an album track that we’ll never hear again. I’m not seeing what’s the big idol passing the torch moment that we’re missing here.”

    He has nothing to promote now but the good intention of TPTB to recognize the show’s winners on the final day! They have done it, I understand, from S4. Now they want to start like a new “punishment page” for the show for winners who don’t sale well, or kind of disrespectful to TPTB how someone said last night he was. TPTB not only they are unhappy with these kind of winners, they show publicly their failures and in the same time they don’t miss a thing to say “Oh, BTW, next year will be the best year ever”. So, good luck S10 winner!

  • Valentin432

    Blaming TPTB part seems to be the most fun part of watching AI apparently, if they don’t do exactly as the fans want to they are blamed.

    I remember at the beginning of the season all the posting about how Lee would be hidden, how the WGWG would be ignored, how Interscope would rule over 19 and not let former AI alumnis perform.

    Result? Lee was front and center in the openning credits with the two other WGWG, he was beside the original idol and pretty visible for everyone during the auditions.
    The boot song was given to the first WGWG who also got a performance slot for his single along with several other alumnis.

    But it’s never enough.
    I wish AI would cut all these performance slots, go back to half an hour result shows, so all this complaining about not having enough would be cut.

    Not giving another performance slot to Lee is now compared to exploitation….

    If you don’t get why people would expect something to happen that has happened 7 out of 8 times before then I don’t know what else there is to say. I think we should just drop it.

    If you’re anticipating something just beause it happened in the past, you’re going to be disapointed a lot.

    All those winners had something to promote, singles/albums and that’s what they did on the show, they didn’t celebrate AI, they did their own selfish, greedy thing (except arguably for Cook) and promoted their carreers.

    I’m all for AI to celebrate idol, the idols etc. but the only way to give performance slots in a way that is fair is to people who have something to promote.

    a winner chose not to perform

    Fantasia choose not to perform? If you could give me a link to that piece of news that would be apreciated.

  • Inconnu

    PaulaXFactor Paula Abdul X Factor
    .@AmericanIdol not inviting Lee DeWyze to perform at the Finale says a lot on what that show is all about. Bring on @TheXFactorUSA!

    Paula is getting into the fray…lol

    I just hope it’s a move that’s going to hurt them.

    To exploit these kids for profit without due respect for process is wrong.

    Very well said.

  • standtotheright

    All those winners had something to promote, singles/albums and that’s what they did on the show, they didn’t celebrate AI, they did their own selfish, greedy thing (except arguably for Cook) and promoted their carreers.

    I must have missed the part where LIU is no longer available for sale and where he’s no longer planning on touring this summer. He could have had the chance to promote that, if nothing else. I don’t think they mentioned anything to that effect in the spring.

    Fantasia choose not to perform? If you could give me a link to that piece of news that would be apreciated.

    She was on tour. I have no evidence that she was deliberately excluded since she did perform earlier in the season. I think the burden, given the history, is to provide evidence in the other direction.

    Regardless, it is completely reasonable for an employee to expect similar rewards from an employer based on prior practice. And for the year after the win, the AI winner is a de facto employee with certain duties along with privileges. Getting one more shot in the spotlight at the finale is a commonly assigned privilege, and one potential exception doesn’t change that.

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    I think the casual viewer or fan of the show, including those who only watch the Finale will notice.

    Yup. And the casual viewer doesn’t care whether DeWyze has something new to promote or that he’s the Lowest!Selling!Winner!Evah! He’s just last year’s nice dude who won, and seeing him on stage one last time is a feel-good moment.

    Instead of giving DeWyze his 3 minutes — which nobody would have remarked upon either way — TPTB administered a public snub. Was letting DeWyze perform, say, a charity single that much of a danger to the show’s future? I doubt he threatened to do a cover of Taylor Swift’s “Mean.”

  • BootStar

    Wow, I was just coming to post how, while I was no fan of Lee last season, not inviting him back to sing one last time at the finale is really low. But given how much passion the decision has generated here and over on TWoP, I’m thinking this could end up helping Lee in the long run. After all, everybody loves an underdog, and Lee is now officially the unluckiest Idol winner ever!

    Hey, Nigel: KARMA IS A BITCH.

  • weese

    I am going to echo that it is just wrong not to have Lee at the finale. Of all the borderline things they have done this year this one goes over the edge for me. I so hope this decision bites them.

  • jumpstart

    BootStar says:
    05/24/2011 at 10:26 am

    Wow, I was just coming to post how, while I was no fan of Lee last season, not inviting him back to sing one last time at the finale is really low.

    I’m not a fan either, but have to say that this renders me (almost) speechless. What a crappy thing for TPTB to do.

  • artemis

    Lee still has an album to promote-the whole Asian Tour was billed as an album promo tour. From the size of the crowds at the events where admission required the purchase of a new copy of his album, he sold a lot. I’m sure he’d get another boost in sales if allowed to perform on the Finale; he got a large boost in March.

    Tess-
    Lee has never been anything but gracious and greatful towards Idol-his brother Mike was the one who was venting, and he has deleted most of those tweets. The only reason Lee tweeted was because so many fans had been tweeting him to ask what song he would perform on the finale.
    This is a big diss to fans of Lee, but TPTB don’t care. Nigel has said only 2% of viewers vote-or buy albums. I guess he’s going to pretend Season 9 didn’t even exist.

  • lucy

    They have done it, I understand, from S4. Now they want to start like a new “punishment page” for the show for winners who don’t sale well,

    A lot of us around here are always recommending something like a “one viewer one vote” rule. I wonder whether, if they had something like that, they’d have a better gauge of which finalist actually might sell the most?

    Who knows, I guess, because I suppose it’s quite possible that about the same amount of powervoting goes on for each contestant. If it doesn’t, though, and if powervoting is what helps people win, then limiting the votes might mean you’d at least get a winner with the best shot at some kind (tv kind) of commercial appeal …

    As it is, they may be kind of “blaming” people (and by “people,” I guess I currently mean Lee) for being powervoted to the top. Which is hardly their fault.

  • http://www.comcast.net KAT80

    I am not a fan of Lee’s music, but being the outgoing Idol, I feel it is only respectful to him as an artist and gives credentials to the show itself. They should always have the current Idol on to kind of hand the title over to the new winner. Shame on AI TPTB.

  • Tess

    The only reason Lee tweeted

    I just don’t understand the mentality that makes it so damn important to answer a twit with a twat. If Lee wanted to say anything he could couch it in terms that would save him some face and not make AI look like a complete vilian.

    It’s like a telephone ringing. Why do people feel compelled to answer it. I think answering a phone while having a conversation with someone else is just downright rude.

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    If Lee wanted to say anything he could couch it in terms that would save him some face and not make AI look like a complete vilian.

    DeWyze was smart to get a relatively neutral tweet out there before @dizzyfeet delivered the same news to outraged fans with his usual tremendous tact.

  • sarah14

    Lee only tweeted after it was “leaked” on twitter that he was not performing at the finale. Fans were bombarding him with questions. What was he to do…ignore the fans and their questions? He tweeted the simple truth, and of course he is criticized for it. If anyone takes the time to listen to Lee, his music, his interviews, what professional people say about him, you can see why he is one of the most genuine and down-to-earth American Idols to come from the show, and I believe he will eventually be one of the most successful!

  • BootStar

    It’s like a telephone ringing. Why do people feel compelled to answer it. I think answering a phone while having a conversation with someone else is just downright rude.

    What was wrong with Lee’s tweet? He was using it to communicate with his fanbase. Isn’t that one of the primary purposes of Twitter after all? His brother OTOH … Not helping the situation. I understand his anger, but kill ‘em with kindness, folks.

  • standtotheright

    It’s like a telephone ringing. Why do people feel compelled to answer it. I think answering a phone while having a conversation with someone else is just downright rude.

    I happen to agree with this as a point of etiquette, but as an analogy, I fail to see how it applies. He’d clearly already “hung up” with anyone on the line and was now telling people not to expect him at the party when they were asking if he’d be there.

    AI chose not to ask him to perform. He’s already lost face. I’m really not sure what he could have said to explain the situation to restore said face that wouldn’t have opened him up to charges of ingratitude. Lambert and Cook both had viable reasons not to attend last year and they still got blowback for not showing up in some corners. Best to put the responsibility where it lies as quietly and directly as possible.

    I will say this brother didn’t help. Don’t exactly blame him, but it didn’t help.

  • windmills

    eilonwy: Was letting DeWyze perform, say, a charity single that much of a danger to the show’s future?

    I’d guess it was more that they didn’t make having Lee perform a priority because they’d booked enough guests they felt would make for a better (in their mind) TV show. They may have felt having Lee perform 2x in one season wasn’t warranted by his sales and media perception.

    I’m not justifying it and I think it would’ve been nice for Lee to have a moment at the finale where he was acknowledged. Who knows what if anything was offered? I’m not outraged he wasn’t invited to perform at the finale but it would have been fitting and appropriate for him to get a moment of recognition at the finale. Maybe it’ll still happen via video montage or something like that.

  • doggiedr

    A lot of us around here are always recommending something like a “one viewer one vote” rule. I wonder whether, if they had something like that, they’d have a better gauge of which finalist actually might sell the most?

    Even better, make each weeks songs available for download and whomever sells the least overnight is eliminated.

    If it’s such a money business let money vote.
    That’s the real world.

  • tinawina

    Maybe it’ll still happen via video montage or something like that.

    Yeah, that would be fine with me. Some kind of acknowledgment of him even if he doesn’t perform would be okay I think.

  • standtotheright

    Even better, make each weeks songs available for download and whomever sells the least overnight is eliminated.

    For the labels, I think this is the best solution. The people who want to buy the music should be the ones who get to decide who gets a recording contract.

    From a TV/PR perspective, it opens the show to charges of catering to wealthier demographics. One has to have:

    a) a decent personal computer or a great iPhone with a
    b) connection to high-speed internet or mobile networks so that one can use
    c) iTunes and spend
    d) as much as $15 to vote for each contestant in the course of a season

    The backlash about power-texting would be nothing compared to that. So it will never happen.

  • swish5

    as Rickey said (Rickey.org)
    “He was responding to his fans.” It’s as simple as that – Lee was just letting his fan know it wasn’t his decision.

    I hope the American Idol audience, bloggers, twitters will not be “bystanders”-but instead show some outrage to American Idol in how they treat their Season 9 winner. And where are the other Idol winners standing up for one of their fellows?

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    And where are the other Idol winners standing up for one of their fellows?

    We don’t know that other winners haven’t said something to TPTB behind the scenes. Not all communications have to be performed in front of fans, and I can see where musicians who have ties to the show’s credibility might prefer to register their dismay quietly to the people who can do something about it, rather than get involved in public outrage that could come back to bite them.

  • iani

    Love him or hate him, he is the last year winner of the show and they should give him a kind of acknowledgment. I already said last night, it is hard for me to understand why they blame only the winner for the low sale-album and unsuccessful winner stamp when they win a show based on their voting system of millions. Because they get benefits from this system they may never change with choosing the winner by TPTB itself ,not necessarily by the judges in the last stages of the show. In general with few exceptions there were the best final 4 contenders chosen by the people, then let the business do the business and choose. Well, they want only popularity for the show with the votes, the winning part is only “cherry in the cocktail” for looking good.

  • spanishfan

    Where is Simon Cowell when you need him. Every week he pushed and prodded Lee to the front until the audience were mesmerised into believing he was the next best thing. If one listened to him, really listened he was pitchy and off key every week and yet the psychology worked. Now Cowell is gone and Lee takes the fall. They treated Taylor the same way and eventually when they saw he did his own thing quite successfully they brought him back into the fold.

  • CCOREY2034

    Honestly I am feeling sorry for Lee Dewyze. Its funny is I liked Lee better then Taylor and Kris Allen. I don’t think hes the worst Idol winner as everyone says he is. I think hes a geniunley nice guy and is not a bad singer at all. He should not have won the show IMO. It sucks Lee had to bare the brunt of a terrible season 9 which wasn’t his fault he won. It was bad talent, bad judges, bad everything and Lee is taking fall for it. Also TPTB not inviting him back IMO is a low blow. It seems from the beginning nobody was invested him. I honestly Lee takes this a learning experience. He was screwed in many ways. Honestly while Lee wasn’t AI winning material the problem was he was better then so many last year. I think they want to pretend like season 9 never existed because it was so bad.

  • easyrider707

    Define Irony – a live singing competition that does not allow a former contestant to sing live so they can show a pre-recorded song or video by the judges of the live singing competition???

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    Top 10 reasons that Nigel Lythgoe couldn’t possibly have invited DeWyze to perform on the finale:

    10. His fountain pen ran out of ink while he was addressing invitations. It’s his favorite pen.

    9. Database of former Idols’ contact information can’t handle those foreign names with De and Von at the beginning. (Does Vonzell Solomon ever get invited to anything? See!)

    8. Too many brown-haired dudes on stage will confuse the viewer.

    7. Isn’t DeWyze still in Asia? What do you mean, “the Yakuza didn’t grab him”? We paid good yen for that!

    6. Phone number on file for DeWyze goes to a phone sex line.

    5. Playing #RockSongAnswers meme on Twitter — for “what would you do if I sang out of tune?”, this’ll be the greatest answer evah!

    4. Didn’t you watch Max Headroom? If three or more viewers turn their attention from the screen for 30 seconds, people could die.

    3. Shade of green recommended for Lythgoe’s dining room by Sherwin Williams salesman looks ghastly on the wall.

    2. DeWyze actually did shit in Warwick’s car. With Depends as one of our advertisers… too big a risk.

    1. The prophecy of Kristy Lee Cook says that if Cook, Allen, DeWyze, and ScotTY McCreery are together at Idol, they will be transformed into the Four Horsemen of the Music Apocalypse*, and you know how easily Cook’s fans get upset. Also — the union always bitches about cleaning up horse shit on the stage.

    *The Four Horsemen of the Music Apocalypse are industry consolidation, piracy, autotune, and Susan Boyle.

  • songsungblue

    Eh, it’s a reality TV show. They filled their obligation to Lee. He got his shot. It didn’t work out. Time to move on. I highly doubt America will even notice he’s not there. Idol is there to make money, not to be our loyal, caring friend. If this situation truly upsets people, turn the channel I guess.

    THIS. They gave him a shot to make it big. How much more do they owe him, really? Many of these posts start with, “I’m not a fan of Lee, but…” That’s the whole story right there. Sorry, but I don’t think they have an obligation to ‘do the right thing’ as we see it [and I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice...]. It just isn’t their obligation. Their obligation is to deliver giant ratings and get the show back on track. This is the same show that cut Kara without blinking – and no one proclaimed how horrible they were to fire her so coldly. ;) There are dozens of pilots that cut actors a week before they air and reshoot….I mean, this is not unusual cruelty in this business.

    Lee will find his way. I doubt he’ll be a superstar, but he’s better off than he was before, and maybe that’s all you can ask. I though his album was just awful in the most Idol way, and to be fair, I didn’t care for Crystal’s either [except for Arlene which is a GREAT song].

  • easyrider707

    I love Crystal’s album, have not bought Lee’s (although I listened to some tunes on Pandora), from what I heard of Lee’s album It sounded OK, I thought songs from LEE’S Slumberland album were better than RCA album, and he will be fine with the right songs as any artist. I would buy a ticket anyday to see the final 3 together of seasons 8 and 9 any day. Casey lead guitar, CB singing or guitar, flute, harmonica or piano, and Lee singing and gvuitar. Not to mention all write their own songs.

  • iani

    I agree eilonwy with the reasons, lol! I like the show in general, but I feel like every year they try so hard for the show to look good and serious business, getting an American Idol. For me underneath has become kind of ridiculous one, with the exception of the contenders who really take seriously every step and stress themselves live on the stage, everything is staged for TPTB benefits. At the end of the show the “crown” goes to the people of TPTB not to the chosen one by mil. of votes, they congratulate themselves for an another successful year.

  • standtotheright

    Many of these posts start with, “I’m not a fan of Lee, but…” That’s the whole story right there. Sorry, but I don’t think they have an obligation to ‘do the right thing’ as we see it [and I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice...]. It just isn’t their obligation. Their obligation is to deliver giant ratings and get the show back on track.

    But that’s the point. People who don’t particularly care for the guy still think not giving him his moment is likely to make for worse and more confusing TV than otherwise. If the songs are the problem, then, as was suggested, have him do a charity single (he works with hunger issues, right?).

    And plenty of people who didn’t care for KDG still thought that AI left her to twist in the wind and should have done better by her, even though the decision clearly came down long before shooting, so that dog don’t hunt, either.

    Like I said, if Taylor Hicks performing for 3 minutes didn’t sink the S6 finale (in fact, the audience jumped 5 million from the S6 Top 2 performance night), then Lee DeWyze performing wasn’t going to hurt the show, either. And a lot of people seem to think that it was going to add to it in a small way.

  • soverymel

    Paula is getting into the fray…lol

    That’s not Paula, it’s a Paula on XFactor fan twitter.

  • shooby1213

    Im sorry but JAMES DONT EVER CHANGE LOLOLOLOLOL he took the piece off the microphone for himself….What a HAM

  • songsungblue

    I guess my point is that TPTB are not obligated to give Lee a performance slot, so they didn’t. That’s why these contracts are so lengthy – they detail obligations. Those three minutes are INCREDIBLY valuable. The commercial time alone is millions! So I don’t think it’s a case of ‘why not give him a charity single?’

    I would make anyone a bet that the ratings for this shindig [tm Haley] will be sky high, that none of the casual viewers will blink at his absence. Just a hunch.

  • standtotheright

    Those three minutes are INCREDIBLY valuable.

    If they really treated them that way, some of the performers booked would be less WTF!random and some of the “funny” sketches would be deep-sixed. DeWyze is better TV than a lot of those options, and I don’t even like him that much.

    I would make anyone a bet that the ratings for this shindig [tm Haley] will be sky high, that none of the casual viewers will blink at his absence

    Like I said, I’m getting the sense that some in the media expect him to be there and will make note of it, and there might be a mini-trending topic for a bit. Just my hunch.

  • weese

    No doubt they are not obligated to have Lee on but sometimes you just do the right thing. He is a really nice guy who should be treated with respect as a part of the idol family.

  • iani

    Maybe they don’t have an obligation to give him 3 min. for the final show if they want not to and it is not written in that lengthy contractual obligations. But in this case, I’m thinking for myself, why they name the show American Idol when they don’t care given him a chance for his last song before ignoring him for good. Name the show instead American Entertainment, give to winner a money-award, something palpable, 250k for example not a piece of paper with a label support to get an album in 6 months. With the 250k the winner would not feel the pressure they actually feel after winning to come out with a good album, sell millions and if not, get slapped on the “face” because they couldn’t. The people watching the show watch for free, few support buying the idol’s album they dialed for, for hours. The money goes for TPTB making the show famous, last time over 97 mil. votes came.

  • weareallinnocent

    Rumor on the street ~ the real reason why Lee was not invited to perform:

    He not only asked for an encore of the bagpipes brigade, but he insisted on wearing a kilt in the “traditional manner.” AI being a wholesome family show rightly refused. And, that was the end of it.

  • edisto

    Thank God I told my son before he graduated from college that people are just generally mean and hateful. The proof is on this blog. People love to just kick and kick at someone when they are down. I would love to know if it really makes you feel good and do you do it because you have so much disappointment in your own life. I have prepared my child for people like you, I hope Lee’s parents did the same for him.

  • iani

    Yeah, and under the kilt he asked for no brifs!

  • aprilfoolish

    There are a lot of people that tried out that just aren’t good and yet they had hopes and dreams and stars in their eyes. Lee made it through the auditions and then proceeded to advance each week. In the early rounds you don’t have to be the best, you just have to NOT be the worst. Lee has talent, he appeals to some a lot and I’m one of them. He acknowledges talent in others, and he considers winning idol a break for him. Singing is his life, he loves it, and in one interview he mentioned that he never considered if he was good or not before idol; he sang and was happy. The sad part is that even if Idol is “done” with him, will he ever be done with them? At any rate, I think he is amazing and hope others give him a chance.

  • lucy

    Even better, make each weeks songs available for download and whomever sells the least overnight is eliminated.

    I *love* it!

  • lucy

    I guess my point is that TPTB are not obligated to give Lee a performance slot, so they didn’t.

    True.

    But from now on, I’m not going to do anything I’m not obligated to do …. And, boy, what a lot of things I’m not going to be doing, and what a big jerk I’m going to be (and be considered, by pretty much everybody … and correctly, too.)

    I realize we live in a world where business isn’t asked to do one single thing that is not their complete, 1000-percent, totally judicially undeniable legal obligation. …. But I don’t have to like it.

  • tessa

    This is so wrong for the reigning Idol not to be on the finale show. Lee brought American Idol a TON of money while he was on the show. They should give him a few minutes of screen time for a last performance before a new Idol champ is crowned. I have no interest in this season’s top finalists and was only going to watch to see Lee perform. I had been looking forward to it all season! Now I know I won’t be watching this finale at all. I don’t care for the trashy celeb. guests they keep inviting on the show who bombard our prime time viewing with sexed up garbage masquerading as music and art.

  • artemis

    They have Lee out doing press for Idol:

    PaulCooked: Lee DeWyze and Kris Allen in the 5 oclock hour on Y98 this afternoon.

  • webster

    I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I think the finale should be mostly about celebrating the current year, but on the other hand, I feel like breaking such a longstanding tradition comes off as an insult to Lee.

    I’m very in favor of Idol changing things up a lot so that they don’t create these expectations in the first place. If they want to move to a situation where they don’t feel locked in to having the winner, that’s fine. But a more graceful way to do it would be to have Lee on to do something else, like introduce the top two.

    As it is, it gives the impression as being a snub, where in reality, it’s probably an entertainment decision.