Idol Headlines for 05/18/09

I posted this in the old headlines, but thought it bears re-posting here:

Michael Sarver and Danny Gokey love each other but only in the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Rightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , no letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s make it clearer, the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Godlyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  way

I want to smack these two clueless boys à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ ahem …. “Godly men”

I liked Rickey Braddy and hoped he would have been chosen for the top 12/13, but his little swipe at Adam was nasty. It wasn’t Adam’s fault that he wasn’t chosen. Bitch about Simon, Kara, Randy, and Paula, or even America, but Adam? I guess he’ll have a blog like that fodder from last year, the Yeager guy…..and truly Rickey, maybe those little tiny, high water pants distracted from your stellar voice? Just sayin’.

ETA: So Michael Sarver’s an ass now too? Why did they feel the need to define their love? Certainly nobody would have thought they were queer? Ugh!

There’s Effing Danny with his arms and hands all over Allison again, just UG. And ya about their love comments, just ug!

A video the idol’s behide the scenes from m sarver

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=57503212

Allison tells danny its all about me not you danny to funny

Will Adam Lambert turn out to be a loser after winning à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢?

SO baiting for hits. LOL

ryan is on.. confirms

lionel richie
carlos santana
cyndi lauper
queen latifah
bep
keith urban
david cook

carrie on tuesday

I could live without bep. I’m really looking forward to Santana and David Cook (duh). I’m so hoping that Bowie will be a surprise guest. That would be all sorts of epic.

Yeah, not terribly impressed with backbiting, sour grapes, or the need to qualify love by some of the “also ran” contestants this year. But, such is life and human (ahem, not Godly) nature.

Loved Slezak’s “Calling them apples and oranges doesn’t go far enough. They’re almost from different planets. It’s like comparing a root vegetable to a sea creature.”

And epic fail on the Sarver/Gokey “right/Godly way”. And even more so on the Allison manhandle part two. I wish I hadn’t even watched that whole video.

I liked Rickey Braddy and hoped he would have been chosen for the top 12/13, but his little swipe at Adam was nasty

Who??

It’s funny how one little comment can turn you against someone. I never did like Danny, but I did like Michael Sarver. That little comment about loving each other the right way…oh, the Godly way ruined that for me.

Ricky? Even after going and looking at pictures of him I still can’t remember seeing him on the show. Guess that shows how good I thought he was. ha!

Sorta wanted Carrie to be on Wednesday too. For the photo ops if nothing else. Oh well.

Lionel Richie? How is he still relevant? Same for Cyndi Lauper. Oh well, I’m guessing they’re going to duet with this year’s Idols so it’ll probably be their classics and not anything new.

Obviously can’t wait for Cook (shocker). Heard Jason and Archie will also attend. Anybody know if other previous Idols are coming?

Lionel Richie has a new single that is currently charting on AC, so I’m assuming he’ll be performing solo to promote it. He may also do a duet, but who knows?

Michael Johns is also supposed to be in attendance.

“Lionel Richie? How is he still relevant? Same for Cyndi Lauper. Oh well, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m guessing theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re going to duet with this yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Idols so ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll probably be their classics and not anything new.”

because idol loves to live in the past with non relevant people/songs… didnt ya hear?

YEah I heard jason and archie would be there. Jordin didnt have tickets yet.. not sure who else.

Lionel Richie has a new single that is currently charting on AC, so Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m assuming heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be performing solo to promote it. He may also do a duet, but who knows?

Maybe he will be the guest during the group number (like Bryan Adams was last year)? If he’s doing a duet, I would guess it would be with Matt.

Who the heck is BEP?

BEP = Black Eyed Peas.

Who the heck is BEP?

Black Eyed Peas. They should duet with Megan. Every time I hear Fergie’s “Big Girls Don’t Cry”, I think that Megan should totally have sung that on Top Downloads night. I think that’s what they had in mind when they cast her.

I don’t know how Danny can call himself a Christian. Any modicum of respect I may have had for him has now completely vanished. Granted, there wasn’t much to begin with. Arrgh.

ETA: So Michael Sarverà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s an ass now too? Why did they feel the need to define their love? Certainly nobody would have thought they were queer? Ugh!

Yes, and notice they all said not a word about Adam and Kris, in that video. That would be the ones sharing polish and not qualifying it with religion…or Adam saying ‘I love that guy’ and not feeling the need to backtrack…or Kris’ family saying they love Adam and not using religion.

WTG Michael and Danny. Now, I think you’re both homophobic wankers.

We love each other the right way, the Godly way!

Closet gays!I knew it!

Anybody know if other previous Idols are coming?

I know that Michael Johns is supposed to be in the audience and Carly Smithson has also twittered that she will be there. Not sure about any other Season 7 Idols.

I’m about to write a Sarver/Gokey bromance fanfic..a lot of meat will be involved..What should I call it……Savekey???SavetheClosetkey??

I adore Cindy Lauper — she is both a great vocalist and songwriter. Please don’t put her in the same category as Lionel Richie. I predict that the Alison-Cindy duet will be one of the better moments of the finale.

I actually think that a Lionel Richie-Danny duet would be OK. Some classic R&B tune?

But who’s singing with Adam? No one on this list seems to make sense to me. How about another Adam-Alison duet? I would go for that!

So, I clicked on the video to see or hear for myself if they said the whole “godly way” thingy. You see, now Im pissed. WTF exactly does that mean? I know what they meant but I want them to say it.

JustWatching
May 18th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny how one little comment can turn you against someone. I never did like Danny, but I did like Michael Sarver. That little comment about loving each other the right wayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦oh, the Godly way ruined that for me.

Ricky? Even after going and looking at pictures of him I still canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t remember seeing him on the show. Guess that shows how good I thought he was. ha!

Here is what is wrong with that.If i dislike adam for being gay(i’m a bad person)but if i dislike micheal sarver for not understanding being gay is ok(then i’m a good person.

You know i just dont get being gay and dont really care if i ever do.What i do get is YOU CAN BE A GOOD PERSON IF YOU RESPECT THOSE WHO SHOW RESPECT.I think adam is a great guy.I could see being friends with him.I never saw enough of m sarver to know that but just because he says 1 thing i should not like him.Maybe kris is like me he doesnt get being gay(understand it)If so you will not like him then?Even if him and adam stay friends.

I hope that came out right for people to get what im asking.

The main thing I remember about Ricky Braddy is that TPTB tried to shut down his fansite. He had a decent voice, but zero charisma. Now I will remember him for having sour grapes.

:dry_tb: “The right way, godly way” … what do I expect from them?

This finale makes me really nervous but all the speculation is so exciting. Please fast forward to Tuesday.

We love each other the right way, the Godly way!

I need an English translation. Is that the same as in the “Biblical Sense”?

Didn’t have much (Godly or otherwise) love for either of them to begin with, but this video of Danny and Michael claiming to love each other in the “right” way is really disgusting. Nice Christian tolerance and acceptance, guys. And Danny, leave your grubby paws off Allison, you’re creeping me out. At least we know we’ll only have a brief summer of watching Sarver lumber arhythmically around the stage before he returns to the oil rigs.

As to Lauper and Richie not being relevant…maybe not on the current charts, which, really, some of the stuff on there right now shouldn’t be either and won’t be remembered three months from now, as opposed to those two pretty much certainly being deserving of remembrance, imo ….Lauper is an icon, so’s Richie. Sure, their prime time was a while ago, but still…Katy Perry should pray (in a Godly way, heh) that she’s as “relevant” 25 years from now. Not likely, but there’s always hope.;-) Not saying those currently charting don’t have followers nor peeps who do enjoy them but the past performers earned their status as well and surprisingly still have recognition. Don’t see the harm in them participating, especially since many times this show alludes to all the past performers, either for their style, their songs, their personas. Not a problem, but jmo.

As to the “right” way to love…interesting. Love by definition is caring, not prideful, not self serving, not spiteful, is being committed to caring about another, placing that love first…I think I read a version of that somewhere. A Book, maybe. Perhaps Sarver and Gokey should read it…I think they missed it’s meaning.;-)

That was the most awesomely biased David/ David concert review I’ve read. It could have been penned by Vulture. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it!

What’s funny is that the author crticizes Cook for performing “remakes” and “unreleased tracks from his post-Idol release album” but praises Archie for the exact same thing. Grist for those who want to continue the fan wars FTMFW! Good times!

(In fairness, I did come across a couple points that jibe with the author’s contention. One on Youtube expressed disappointment that Cook didn’t sing the Magic Rainbow. And another in an article comment-thread expressed that disappointment because s/he came to hear Hello, Eleanor Rigby, Billie Jean, I Don’t Wanna Miss A Thing– “not a bunch of unfamiliar rock songs”!)

BTW, that whole “Outback Steakhouse” piece of gossip has been debunked. Several Idols Tweeted that they had dinner at the OLIVE GARDEN and not all of them were there.

I liked Rickey Braddy and hoped he would have been chosen for the top 12/13, but his little swipe at Adam was nasty.

Rickey is just jealous. Besides, Adam wasn’t picked as a wild card, he actually was voted into the top 13.

VFTW is hilarious. First, its not all of the 36 contestants… I saw like 2 names there.. Rickey and that other guy whose name has escaped me at the moment. VFTW is soooo mad that people like Adam. LOL Just because they don’t doesn’t mean everyone has to think like them. They wanted to make him their VFTW pick since the very beginning because of his flamboyant style. The fact that they can’t acknowledge his talent totally wrecks their creditability. I can understand Adam not being a person’s favorite but to make it like he has no talent just doesn’t make any sense.

The whole outback boyfriend story with adam and Anoop/Megan dating has been discredited many times in other articles. Apparently they all went to the olive garden that night. It must be nice to have people with no lives make up stories about you.

What did Ricky Braddy say exactly about Adam?

Alex Wagner-Trugman, Felicia, etc. have been tweeting and they seem to support Kris because he’s an underdog from the get go, but they also like Adam..

and Alex, Ricky, and Brent Keith seem to be joking and not being serious about the whole Wicked/Adam thing..*confused*

Alex: @votefortheworst that adam thing was a joke. we all do like him, and hes a good guy. but yeah haha, the high notes arent everyones thing.
http://twitter.com/alexwtrugs

http://twitter.com/brentkeith
http://twitter.com/rickybraddy
http://twitter.com/feliciabarton

I posted this in the old headlines, but thought it bears re-posting here:

Michael Sarver and Danny Gokey love each other but only in the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Rightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , no letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s make it clearer, the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Godlyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  way

I want to smack these two clueless boys à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ ahem à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Godly menà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Can’t tell you how mad that makes me …. sad, sad individuals

I need an English translation. Is that the same as in the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Biblical Senseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ?

lol .. I think you may be right …. Me thinks they doth protest too much :wink_wp:

steve May 18th, 2009 at 10:37 am

A video the idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s behide the scenes from m sarver

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=57503212

Allison tells danny its all about me not you danny to funny

Actually, it looked like she was mocking Gokey for his tendency to jump in front of the camera whenever it’s not on him. I think she was say “Hey! It’s Danny Gokey! It’s all about ME and not about you! Pay attention to MEEE!!”

And if that’s the case, you ROCK Allison! And tell Gokey to keep his pedo paws off of you.

In about seven months both Adam and Kris will have cds out. Danny will probably be hawking his used glasses on eBay. I won’t have any recollection of Sarver; I’d already forgotten about Braddy until today. That’s karma baby.

The way I see it…….about Danny and Michael’s little clarification of their “love” for each other…..It’s just jealousy. Kris is comfortable in his own skin. He is roommates with Adam, has become close friends with Adam, and according to pictures shared over the net shares a bond with Adam by painting a thumb nail and Adam leaving his thumb nail UN-painted. I say HOORAY for Kris for being a TRUE Christian in mind and spirit. And HOORAY for Adam for being HIMSELF!!! I believe it’s Adam who SHOULD absolutely win the title…he’s been the most consistent, the most entertaining, the most mesmerizing IDOL EVER!!!!! But to share the finale with Kris makes the finale ever so much sweeter……..Good luck to both Adam and Kris in their future endeavors!

In fairness, I did come across a couple points that jibe with the authorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s contention. One on Youtube expressed disappointment that Cook didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sing the Magic Rainbow. And another in an article comment-thread expressed that disappointment because s/he came to hear Hello, Eleanor Rigby, Billie Jean, I Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Wanna Miss A Thingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“not a bunch of unfamiliar rock songsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ !

Seriously? People still want them to be performing covers they did on the show 1 year ago? Dont they realise they are individual artistes now with their own music?Seriously?

Having said that though, I find most of their own songs slightly underwhelming…so maybe I cant blame the crowd too much then

I need an English translation. Is that the same as in the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Biblical Senseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ?

ROFLMAO.

Sorry, didn’t mean to offend any Lionel Richie/Cyndi Lauper fans. No doubt they are icons, but I don’t think many would disagree that their major appeal lies in their past success and classic hits. Nothing wrong with that, I just think AI could do better on the current front than BEP.

Now I need to go watch that Gokey-Sarver video to determine how hot for each other they really are.

“Here is what is wrong with that.If i dislike adam for being gay(ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a bad person)but if i dislike micheal sarver for not understanding being gay is ok(then ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a good person.”

I understand what you are trying to say Steve, but I equivalate what Danny/Michael said to a white person saying “I have a black friend”, or “I work with a black person”, etc. when you go out of your way to make people not think of you a certain way, you reinforce that sterotype/way of thinking.

Why were Danny and Michael so scared people would think they would love each other in a “non-Godly” way. In addition, why is being gay not “godly”. God made us all in his image. Comments such as the ones Danny/Michael said gives all Christians a bad name and we aren’t all like that.

BEP = Black Eyed Peas.

Thank you! It shows how much I don’t know about the music scene. :blush_tb:

Now I know why Danny seemed like the third wheel in the Top 3.

Kris and Adam are aces in my books. Kris is what a Christian should be IMO. Tolerant and accepting of the person, whether he agrees with the lifestyle or not. He obviously has taken the time to get to know Adam, the person, and hasn’t made judgements. The same goes for Adam. He could have been put off by Kris, the Christian but hasn’t been. These guys have set a great example for everyone. I hope some have been paying attention.

Those are some bitter top 36ers, lol. I can’t remember who they are so it shows how good THEY must have been.

Oddly looking forward to BEP in the finale. AND DAVID COOK!

“That was the most awesomely biased David/ David concert review Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve read. It could have been penned by Vulture. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it!

Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny is that the author crticizes Cook for performing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“remakesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“unreleased tracks from his post-Idol release albumà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  but praises Archie for the exact same thing. Grist for those who want to continue the fan wars FTMFW! Good times!

(In fairness, I did come across a couple points that jibe with the authorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s contention. One on Youtube expressed disappointment that Cook didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sing the Magic Rainbow. And another in an article comment-thread expressed that disappointment because s/he came to hear Hello, Eleanor Rigby, Billie Jean, I Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Wanna Miss A Thingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“not a bunch of unfamiliar rock songsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ !)
”

yeah I was kinda.. sratching my head over that review.. by all accounts they were both awesome! and by looking at the vids.

and yeah i heard about some people wanting to heard magic rainbow and a few other idol songs.

What did Ricky Braddy say and where is it? Anybody have a link? I don’t have time to read all those stories.

snuffles
May 18th, 2009 at 11:12 am
BTW, that whole à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Outback Steakhouseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  piece of gossip has been debunked. Several Idols Tweeted that they had dinner at the OLIVE GARDEN and not all of them were there.

That is because the rest were at The Outback Steak House.

The whole outback boyfriend story with adam and Anoop/Megan dating has been discredited many times in other articles. Apparently they all went to the olive garden that night. It must be nice to have people with no lives make up stories about you.

Sadly it is one of the perks of celebrity and it has only just begun. :sad_wp:

We love each other the right way, the Godly way!

I’m speechless.

The VFTW article (if you can call it that) is the funniest thing I’ve seen so far today. I fail to understand the point of it and… the only name I recognize is Adam’s.

Funny what one will “tweet” when jealousy rears its ugly, green head.

Gokey/Carver’s shtick is similiar to the Ryan/Simon gay comments they make every season. Not this one of course. They don’t usually mention God but lots of “loving” each other “in the right way stuff.) And Idol contestants are allowed to have favorites, no? I mean, if they loved Lambert, I’m guessing his fans would be complimenting them on their great taste.

I guess Adam’s shrieking is an issue for alot of people.

In the video, it looked like Danny started to say the “right” way and caught himself, then Sarver jumped in and offered “godly” as a substitute. I’m willing to give him a bit of a pass because Danny comes across as someone who has not spent a lot of time out of his bubble, so Adam (and perhaps Jorge?) might be the first real gay people he’s ever really gotten to know. I’m thinking he still has to learn how to eliminate certain things from his vocabulary and whatnot. Ditto Sarver.

Now if they are still saying stuff like that in 6 months, I’m gonna be seriously through with them.

carroll May 18th, 2009 at 11:26 am

snuffles
May 18th, 2009 at 11:12 am
BTW, that whole à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Outback Steakhouseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  piece of gossip has been debunked. Several Idols Tweeted that they had dinner at the OLIVE GARDEN and not all of them were there.

That is because the rest were at The Outback Steak House.

And where is your evidence? According to the Tweets. 7 of the top 13 were at Olive Garden. 2 (Allison and Jasmine) were at the hotel doing school work.

So that leaves 4 contestants left. And since the piece of said ALL of the contestants were together, then that would make their gossip a complete load of BULLSH!T.

Gingerly, I guess its from this blog on VFTW

http://votefortheworst.com/20090517/top_36_contestants_arent_fans_adam_lambert

I couldnt even remember who those 2 were , but I dont think tis that big a deal.people are allowed to have opinions

I don’t mind BEP’s but this list of acts is a bit weak for a 2-hour finale. I think they must have at least a couple that they are sandbanging.

Also, all 13 Finalists have confirmed that they will be preforming on the show.
At least 6 of the other AI8 contestants have confirmed that they will be in the audience. Carly Smithson will also be in the audience.

Carrie Underwood, David Archuleta, David Cook, Jordin Sparks are all scheduled to perform.

Reports on twitter that the past idols will do a Beattle song/medley. Didn’t they do that on another finale?

Three past idols will be reporting: Justin Guarini and Kimberly Caldwell for Idol Tonight. Kinnik Sky for Fox Atlanta.

In the video, it looked like Danny started to say the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“rightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  way and caught himself, then Sarver jumped in and offered à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“godlyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  as a substitute. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m willing to give him a bit of a pass because Danny comes across as someone who has not spent a lot of time out of his bubble, so Adam (and perhaps Jorge?) might be the first real gay people heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ever really gotten to know. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m thinking he still has to learn how to eliminate certain things from his vocabulary and whatnot. Ditto Sarver.

That’s the impression I got from it too.

I’m not sure what the Ricky Braddy thing is about, but if he’s bitter, he has no reason to be. It’s not Adam’s fault Ricky didn’t make it to the Top 13.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mind BEPà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s but this list of acts is a bit weak for a 2-hour finale. I think they must have at least a couple that they are sandbanging.

I hope so. There were always surprises with Nigel around, but who knows about TPTB now that he’s gone. If there’s no one else I’m going to be disappointed.

Carrie Underwood, David Archuleta, David Cook, Jordin Sparks are all scheduled to perform.

Reports on twitter that the past idols will do a Beattle song/medley. Didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t they do that on another finale?

They did the exact same thing just two years ago in the finale of S6. Only Fantasia was missing then (and she’s the only we haven’t seen this year either).

I wonder why they will do a remake?

*puts May 29th under very important date in calender*

Thanks, Chipmunk. I don’t go to VTFW. I won’t grace them with my measly little hits (they might make 1/10th of a cent on me).

steve, I hear what you’re saying, but here’s the difference for me. Respect is respect, tolerance is tolerance. But imo neither should be awarded to disrespect and intolerance.

And Idol contestants are allowed to have favorites, no?

Not while the show is still going on. I don’t think Idol contestants should be telling anyone to vote for anyone, and should keep their opinions to themselves. Allison was very classy about this. She said she wasn’t going to tell her fans to vote for anyone, and that they should vote for who they wan to. The season is not over. Its just funny that the ones talking are the ones who didn’t make it to the top 13. It comes across as bitter poor judgement. No one likes a sore loser.

whos ricky braddy??

Reports on twitter that the past idols will do a Beattle song/medley. Didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t they do that on another finale?

Oh God, oh God, oh God…PLEASE don’t tell me that instead of “Bar-Ba-Sol” they’re going to force David to do another GROUP NUMBER? Oh frak-sticks, I’m done with this show if they do that. I will find something else to watch (doesn’t NCIS come on in the Tuesday time slot? I got Wed. covered w/Lost).

Read the Davids concert tour review. Yeah, I think it only the really hard-core fans who appreciate “a bunch of new songs.” That’s going to be maybe 5%, maybe 10% (?) of the audience. Concerts go flat without the big well-known hits that get the whole crowd going. Cook should have done TOML as well as other “oldies” from the show. Until he’s got 2 or 3 well known albums under his belt to pick and choose his own “hit” material from, you pretty much have to go for the covers. Even Carrie Underwood still sings a couple of covers on tour to round out her set. Knowing that TOML was a #1 hit in the Philippines and not singing it was an (unintentional) insult to those fans.

But, poor guy must be going thru a difficult time right now. Probably hard to get interested in playing the game. Too bad he can’t take some time off.

because idol loves to live in the past with non relevant people/songsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ didnt ya hear?

What makes them irrelavant? Their contributions to music have been huge and many an idol has made a name for themselves (in part) by singing their songs–glaring example: David Cook’s “Hello” which LR wrote and himself took to No 1 (I believe) when it debuted.
I really hate it when people declare “older” artists irrelevant. They are all relevant and I enjoy seeing them perform again rather than just current artists who are shoved in my face all the time already.

Oh God, oh God, oh Godà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦PLEASE donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t tell me that instead of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Bar-Ba-Solà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re going to force David to do another GROUP NUMBER? Oh frak-sticks, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m done with this show if they do that. I will find something else to watch (doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t NCIS come on in the Tuesday time slot? I got Wed. covered w/Lost).

Last time they did something like this the idols did a medley AND some of them did solo performances too. The winner from last season almost always does a solo song. No worries.

Oh God, oh God, oh Godà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦PLEASE donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t tell me that instead of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Bar-Ba-Solà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re going to force David to do another GROUP NUMBER? Oh frak-sticks, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m done with this show if they do that. I will find something else to watch (doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t NCIS come on in the Tuesday time slot? I got Wed. covered w/Lost).

No one ever said he was doing BBS anyway. It’s been wishful thinking by fans for a while now. If he was only appearing to participate in a group number then why is he being singled out as one of the confirmed performers? He’s been mentioned along with all the other guest performers. I do think he’s doing something solo.

Sorry, sorry…I’m just becoming more cynical in my old age, figuring that after he publicly said in interviews how much he actually disliked those group numbers, 19E would rub their maniacal little hands together…”thought you escaped the group sings, eh, Cook? Well you thought WRONG, bwahahaha…”

Re: the David/David concert review, I understand the Pinoy fans’ frustrations (somewhat differently…I didn’t get the more obscure songs other cities got). However, keep in mind that his band hasn’t been playing the covers he performed on Idol, and with touring, traveling and family tragedies to deal with they barely had time to squeeze in rehearsals for new material. I admire him for doing “Always Be My Baby” with a full band for the Phillipines fans, but you can’t expect Neal, Andy and them to learn all the others, too. Sure, he could have just done some of the other Idol covers acoustic. But David also said he was retiring the Magic Rainbow after the Idol tour, and as much as he gives credit to Idol, you know he is also counting the days until Adam or Kris take the crown from him and he can be the frontman for his band, not “the reigning American Idol.”

Read the Davids concert tour review. Yeah, I think it only the really hard-core fans who appreciate à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“a bunch of new songs.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to be maybe 5%, maybe 10% (?) of the audience. Concerts go flat without the big well-known hits that get the whole crowd going. Cook should have done TOML as well as other à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“oldiesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  from the show. Until heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got 2 or 3 well known albums under his belt to pick and choose his own à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“hità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  material from, you pretty much have to go for the covers. Even Carrie Underwood still sings a couple of covers on tour to round out her set. Knowing that TOML was a #1 hit in the Philippines and not singing it was an (unintentional) insult to those fans.

He is no longer on the Idol tour…he is on his own tour. He’s not going to sing a bunch of Idol songs on his own tour. He sang all of those last year–over & over & over for four months. To expect him to keep singing them is ridiculous.

All I can say about Sarver and Gokey, is it reminds me of the people I grew up with here in Louisiana, just a couple of rednecks that happen to make it through auditions and also dont realize that anything and everything they say will be scrutinized at this point.
After the finale, no one will give a shit, and they can go back to their day jobs! What morons!
Im sure Adam put a bad taste in all their mouths, because he is so damn talented. The boy cant help it. Love Adam Lambert!!!!!!!!! :wub_tb:

Oh God, oh God, oh Godà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦PLEASE donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t tell me that instead of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Bar-Ba-Solà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re going to force David to do another GROUP NUMBER?

I wouldn’t take these spoilers about a medley seriously. Some other spoilers there aren’t true. Jording isn’t performing, for one, Carrie isn’t performing on Wednesday… If Archie’s performing, it’s hasn’t been verified anywhere. Sounds like random rumors to me. Maybe someone liked the medley from a few finales ago and thought a remake would be cool. Some people confuse wishful thinking with fact.

But whoever said he’d sing BBS? Total fanwank as far as I know.

About the Davids concert – I’ve read enough reviews (many from non-fans, BTW) to know that this one is negatively slanted and not take anything in it as gospel. I do know some were disappointed there was no TOML. Tough. Cook won’t perform that song again if it’s up to him. He did give them ABMB, which was awesome (and which most people appreciated alot). BTW, Avalanche and CBTM have both done well on radio there (Beside ABMB and LO), so the “facts” in that article aren’t exactly correct about the number of familiar songs, either.

UNCONVENTIONAL IDOL OWNS ZOOTOPIA
By DAN AQUILANTE

WITH America burning up with “American Idol” fever, in a delirium over whether angelic Kris or devilish Adam will be declared the winner, the TV talent show’s best discovery remains its first — Kelly Clarkson.

Clarkson proved it in every song of her abbreviated set during radio station Z100′s Zootopia Saturday at the Meadowlands’ Izod Center. She wasn’t the headliner . . . that honor belonged to the reanimated Black Eyed Peas. She wasn’t the most sensual, seductive performer — hip-pop singer Ciara brought sexy back. And rapper Flo Rida made the house churn to his nimble tongue rhymes.

Yet Clarkson owned Zootopia. Every song she sang — even the slo-flo ballad — was a vessel into which she totally poured herself. In a trick few female singers ever learn, her voice was commanding without syrup or bombast. Think of the way Janis Joplin sang “Piece of My Heart.”

Clarkson achieved that same passion-in-every-note quality. In the seven years since she was crowned Idol’s queen, I’ve seen her in clubs, as a warm-up act, as a guest soloist and as a headliner; Zootopia ’09 was her zenith.

She opened with her time-tested hit “Since U Been Gone,” throwing her self into the tune’s heartbreak, anger and ultimate declaration of independence. Like Joplin, Clarkson tests pop culture’s beauty standards, but with her near-perfect yet gritty vocals and her absolute passion for the songs, one couldn’t help but be drawn to her.

She did that again with “Walk Away” and with the ballad “Already Gone.” Clarkson continues to move away from the expected vocal vehicles and is making some interesting moves toward a harder metal sound for which she’s well-suited.

New York Post

I am certain that David C. will have a solo. David A. and Jordan already did a solo this year. Carrie will solo on Tuesday. I think they saved David C.’s solo for the Finale. Guess David C. can do a solo and be in a group number.

I’m still hoping that they pick something better than the Beattles for a group number. Love the Beattles, but I would really like something newer. (Of course, unless they have Cirque de Soleil join them.)

2dogs
May 18th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Read the Davids concert tour review. Yeah, I think it only the really hard-core fans who appreciate à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“a bunch of new songs.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to be maybe 5%, maybe 10% (?) of the audience. Concerts go flat without the big well-known hits that get the whole crowd going. Cook should have done TOML as well as other à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“oldiesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  from the show. Until heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got 2 or 3 well known albums under his belt to pick and choose his own à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“hità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  material from, you pretty much have to go for the covers. Even Carrie Underwood still sings a couple of covers on tour to round out her set. Knowing that TOML was a #1 hit in the Philippines and not singing it was an (unintentional) insult to those fans.

But, poor guy must be going thru a difficult time right now. Probably hard to get interested in playing the game. Too bad he canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t take some time off.

It seems to me that both David’s did new stuff from their albums. One got praised for it and one dissed for it. I think that is the issue at hand here. David hasn’t sung anything but TWIK and once or twice a bit of Billie Jean since he’s been on his solo tour. Never once has he sung TOML. It’s not his song and he has no investment in it. The only time he has sung ABMB was in Manila, which to me, is a huge compliment (intentional) to those fans. David Cook needs to become David Cook, the artist, and not David Cook, the AI Winner. From all the screaming I heard (and I’ve watched a ton of videos), people weren’t unhappy with his set.

From jlc: “He is no longer on the Idol tourà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦he is on his own tour. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not going to sing a bunch of Idol songs on his own tour. He sang all of those last yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’over & over & over for four months. To expect him to keep singing them is ridiculous.”

Damn, this is exactly what I was thinking. Amen to that!! I saw Cookie sing Magic Rainbow 4 times on the Idol tour. I loved the song then, but enough of it already. He is now doing the Declaration Tour and is trying to promote his songs from his solo album, not the old stuff from Idol S7. Come on people!!!

WTG Michael and Danny. Now, I think youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re both homophobic wankers.

omg…peeing pants :lol_tb:

From all the screaming I heard (and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve watched a ton of videos), people werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t unhappy with his set.

It’s one review. I’ve read dozens since the concert (as I said, mostly from non fans and casual fans), and this is the first one that had anything truly negative to say. I’m chalking it up to the reviewer, not the Davids or the concert itself.

I know people tend to fixate on the negative, but to take this review as representing anything but one person’s subjective opinion is to give it far too much credit.

Okay, I checked out the Ricky Braddy twitters from VFTW, and I’m confused– am I the only one who didn’t any read veiled bitterness from Ricky’s twitters? He saw Wicked and was commenting on it, and may or may not have snarked a little on that musical’s style. But that’s all he did. He didn’t even bring up Adam’s name in reference to Wicked. Alex Trugman (sp?) is the one who twittered back with the witch vs Adam comment, and Brent Keith is the one who responded to Alex asking him which he preferred, and then it was again Alex who brought up the shrieking. Why is Ricky getting the brunt of the bittercake comments? Poor guy went to see a musical, and based on his other twitters, seemed genuinely excited about seeing a show. Alex Trugman dares to invoke Adam’s name, and yet Ricky gets the brunt of the haterade? Confused. And anyway, even if he doesn’t prefer Adam, that doesn’t mean he hates Adam or is denying his talent, even. He never even implied that he doesn’t like Adam.

And if you check out Ricky’s twitter, one of his other updates have him saying both Kris and Adam are incredible, even though he clearly prefers Kris.

Well, I officially have no idea what to say. It should be Kris and Adam. Adam is a singer and Kris is an artist – both incredible!

If you are hooked up to Alexis’ twitter, I can tell she and Megan aren’t too fond of Alex Truggs and/or the Danny/Michael Comment. She says in these two twitters:

because alexwtruggs it dont matter if your black or white.
4:00 PM May 15th from web

ok im making a megan joy and alexis grace show as i twit! we talk about equality and things of that nature!

Its definitely not the whole top 36 who is against Adam.

From the behind the scenes article ( I think from USA Today), it implies that Adam and Danny do not get along but they “agree to disagree.” I’m thinking that Danny and Michael does not agree with Adam’s lifestyle. I think I wouldn’t have minded if they said they loved each other in a Godly way but I think Danny made the mistake of saying the “right” way. He should have shut up after the I love you. I don’t think anyone would have jumped to the conclusion that he’s gay.

Btw, I love Kris and Adam. Kris seems to really love Adam the way he is and is not afraid to show it. The both seem very sweet and that’s why I’m so happy they’re in the finale together! Yay!

BTW, that whole à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Outback Steakhouseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  piece of gossip has been debunked. Several Idols Tweeted that they had dinner at the OLIVE GARDEN and not all of them were there.

If this is the same Outback in Burbank that I am thinking of, it is in the same complex as the Olive Garden. So I really don’t believe the gossip. Somebody probably heard they were going to a restaurant in that complex and just picked one and made stuff up.

Virgo, Alexis replied “because alexwtruggs it dont matter if your black or white” because Alex tweeted at her with some lyrics from Black or White. She was just finishing the lyrics he tweeted her. She didn’t mean she didn’t like Alex.

I guess anybody can read into those twitters what they want, but I think it’s just friends trying to make each other laugh. Look at it this way, they aren’t bothering to talk about Kris’s performances, so he must not have made an impact. I honestly think if they were going to be dissing Adam, they wouldn’t be doing it so publically as on twitter. Mileage, Y’all.

Twitter from Paula on the 15th:

Michael Phelps à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ back in the pool, showing more than he planned http://tinyurl.com/q5whgg

Links to an article about Michael Phelps’s return to racing, how he won and how he had a rip in is swimsuit. Does Paula have a crush on Michael Phelp’s?

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Sorry for posting bogus info before I checked it carefully. It does not seem that Carrie or Jorden are on Weds. Finale. Can’t find anything on Davis A. being there either.

Since Carrie and David are on this week, that means every past Idol winner has been on except Fantasia. Maybe that’s karmic punishment for Fantasia’s pick to take it all: Danny Gokey.

There are so many rumors that the press is picking up from online sites, and printing as fact that it is getting silly.

Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not going to sing a bunch of Idol songs on his own tour. He sang all of those last yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’over & over & over for four months. To expect him to keep singing them is ridiculous.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I can certainly understand that David is sick of singing his old songs and, if the reviewer got it completely wrong and the crowd was really digging the new, unfamiliar material, then good for him. I say keep it up.

If the reviewer was accurate? From what I have read and heard, most artists get heartily sick of singing old hits again and again, but suck it up and sing them anyway because it pleases the mainstream fan. Chris Martin once said something to the effect that the best advice he got was to make sure to put the hit songs in the concert and then sing them straight because those are the songs the fans paid to hear. Personally, I actually like to hear the songs changed up during concerts, particularly if I really like the artist, but I get what he is saying. And Coldplay has been singing songs like Yellow for a lot longer then 4 months.

If David wants to stand on integrity and sing fresh material, that’s his choice and I actually respect it. But, for a new artist trying to book concerts, not sure if its the smartest (money-wise) decision.

That’s all.

I’m way late to the party today, but r/e the article about the David/David show in Manila…

(In fairness, I did come across a couple points that jibe with the authorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s contention. One on Youtube expressed disappointment that Cook didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sing the Magic Rainbow.

I know when I went to the show in Radford the two women in front of me were all excited when he opened with The World I Know, and then they lost interest once they realized that was the end of the Idol covers. I’m sure he’s encountered it everywhere, that’s all part of moving forward past Idol into his new stuff I guess. And he definitely seems like he’s ok with never playing Time of My Life again, though it seems to be inescapable, just heard it at Subway yesterday while having lunch (then got in car and heard Light On, and came home, put on Music Choice on TV and heard Come Back to Me… woo).

But yes, that was one seriously biased article, lol.

Not while the show is still going on. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Idol contestants should be telling anyone to vote for anyone, and should keep their opinions to themselves.

Season 5 many of them came right out and said they were wanting Taylor to win. Elliott and Paris sat in the audience Top 2 night holding little “Taylor Hicks” signs (had Taylor’s face on them) up for the camera.

If David wants to stand on integrity and sing fresh material, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s his choice and I actually respect it. But, for a new artist trying to book concerts, not sure if its the smartest (money-wise) decision.

He did two Idol covers – TWIK and ABMB. He did all of his singles that charted in the Philippines, except for one (TOML). It’s all about what one chooses to put emphasis on. This was NOT some “Only Rarities and B-Sides” show. You, as a Michael Johns fan, probably know how some of his fans reacted when instead of playing his new song he kept playing a Bee Gees cover…

As for booking concerts and money-wise… The concert was already booked and went over as a huge success for both Davids. It has sold out and got rave reviews. I heard the money was pretty good too.

Okay, I checked out the Ricky Braddy twitters from VFTW, and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m confusedà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ am I the only one who didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t any read veiled bitterness from Rickyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s twitters?

No, I was wondering what I was missing too. Unless he deleted something? As far as what was posted and attributed to Ricky Braddy at VFTW, I didn’t see anything from him that was negative about Adam at all. I kind of honestly thought he meant that people were encouraging him to give musical theater a try and that seeing Wicked might be the ticket to get him to rethink his career plans.

Now Gokey and Sarver, on the other hand, posted up videographic proof that they are insecure homophobic morons. They’ll definitely be my beer and bathroom breaks on the tour, and I expect that’s the last I’ll ever hear of either of them.

Allison is made of total win in that video though. Imitating Danny and his camera-whoring ways. LOL.

And I want him to do ABMB *HERE* – that was an awesome gift to the fans there, he hasn’t played it here and I have concert envy!

He did two Idol covers – TWIK and ABMB.

Since Carrie and David are on this week, that means every past Idol winner has been on except Fantasia. Maybe thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s karmic punishment for Fantasiaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pick to take it all: Danny Gokey.

Why should she be punished in any way for giving a prediction and her opinion? Former Idols do it all the time, some are right and some are wrong. By the same token maybe Paula should get hit by some bad karma for saying multiple times Danny would be in the finale.

Aww.. if anyone clicked on the link to check out Fox16′s footage of Kris, they show a picture of Kris and his brother with Adam! so cute!

It seems to me that both Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s did new stuff from their albums. One got praised for it and one dissed for it. I think that is the issue at hand here. David hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sung anything but TWIK and once or twice a bit of Billie Jean since heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been on his solo tour. Never once has he sung TOML. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not his song and he has no investment in it. The only time he has sung ABMB was in Manila, which to me, is a huge compliment (intentional) to those fans. David Cook needs to become David Cook, the artist, and not David Cook, the AI Winner. From all the screaming I heard (and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve watched a ton of videos), people werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t unhappy with his set.

I certainly wasn’t.

I understand, though, what he says about some of the crowd probably being disappointed Cookie didn’t do Magic Rainbows as it was a hit here for a time and Filipinos generally like “soppy,” sentimental songs. I myself didn’t expect he’d do it but I believe he would have definitely endeared himself even more to the Pinoy crowd (majority of which probably didn’t own his CD but went to the concert hoping they’d hear Cookie’s Idol songs) if he did. I was hoping (not expecting) he would also do maybe a little bit of Billie Jean or Hello as either of those would have brought the house down, for sure, but I (not sure about the non-AI devotees and “Archie-exclusive” fans among the crowd) understood what Cookie was trying to do: showcasing his own music and musical style.

Generally, the crowd response to Cookie’s set was, I thought, pretty good. His set was definitely solid. From my vantage point, I saw that even with “unfamiliar” songs, he was able to get the crowd going; he commanded that stage. That ABMB was performed for the first time in concert and special to the Philippines was certainly not lost on and greatly pleased the Pinoy throng.

On one of these threads in the last couple days, someone mentioned a group interview where the idols were asked who was the “camp counselor” and they all pointed to Adam…could someone please point me in the direction of that vid ?
thanks!

Season 5 many of them came right out and said they were wanting Taylor to win. Elliott and Paris sat in the audience Top 2 night holding little à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Taylor Hicksà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  signs (had Taylorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s face on them) up for the camera.

That doesn’t make it right. Plus, its downright stupid. What if you pick the loser?? Politics people…politics…. LOL

I do think Cook and The Band That Will Be Mysteriously Named Later ought to come up with a serious rocked out version of Magic Rainbow, just for the hell ot it. Bands like Me First And The Gimme Gimmes thrive with their entire shtick being playing “punk” covers of “My Boy Friend’s Back”, “Uptown Girl”, and just about any other cheesy lite FM classic staple over the years. (To tell you the truth, in my head I can hear *exactly* what the Gimme’s cover of TOML would sound like!)

Now Granted DC is not a pop-punkster. Although, I do have to admit that when I first heard the first verse to WOHWWS, I did think he had written himself a pop-punk ditty (by the chorus it does shape itself into a regular pop-rock tune, though)….

From the behind the scenes article ( I think from USA Today), it implies that Adam and Danny do not get along but they à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“agree to disagree.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I don’t think it implied that they do not get along. I think they have different views on things and therefore agree to disagree.

Adam said in one video that I watched that he and Danny “hit is off right from the start.”

Aww.. if anyone clicked on the link to check out Fox16à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s footage of Kris, they show a picture of Kris and his brother with Adam! so cute!

Which link? I clicked on the Fox 16 article link about Kris away from Idol article but don’t see that picture there.

ETA: N/M..I found the pics

Filipinos generally like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“soppy,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  sentimental songs.

I completely didn’t notice this when my mom and grandma (both Filipino) liked You Are So Beautiful and all of my aunts wanted the studio version of “To Make You Feel My Love”. Wow.

So enough with the sour grapes. Adam and Kris will have one ding dong of a finale. A bunch of people in my family just moved on to Kris, and his performance of Heartless seems to be outdoing the others in internet buzz and airplay. He’s finally getting some of the praise he deserves. At the same time, though some of the Internet seems to have tamed their praise (thankfully, though he did deserve a lot of praise, he still got a bit much and it is still a bit annoying), Adam’s still the front runner from the beginning and he has a ton of rabid internet fans! Does that mean Kris is more appealing to the casuals, while Adam’s fans are more “in love” and would do anything to make sure their favorite wins?

Oh my God, this is going to be one hell of a finale. Either way, I predicted this from Top Downloads week because the two were in their zone much more obviously and more powerfully than the other contestants. Even though I don’t really appreciate Adam’s “shrieking” very much, some of his OTT performances to me were great, like Play That Funky Music and Feeling Good.

The thing about those two (and possibly Allison) is that they can make a very strange/bad song choice, make it their own, and do something awesome with it. Go KRADAM!

“He did two Idol covers – TWIK and ABMB.”

lol DA did two idol covers as well… haha sbm and angels
He must be as bad as cook then… curse them davids… and their covers..

anyway.. I say dont pay any mind to that article… obviously they both put on a great show and both got an awesome response

I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t take these spoilers about a medley seriously. Some other spoilers there arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t true. Jording isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t performing, for one, Carrie isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t performing on Wednesdayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ If Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performing, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been verified anywhere. Sounds like random rumors to me. Maybe someone liked the medley from a few finales ago and thought a remake would be cool. Some people confuse wishful thinking with fact.

I heard DA is going to be in the audience but that is all.

^^ right, he’ll be in the audience thats about it.

I think most of the S7 crew will be attending the finale and that’s the extent of their involvement. From my understanding, Archie, Jason, Carly and Sy are all confirmed to be there and I assume Brooke and Johns likely will be too.

I guess I have a hard time with the term homophobic. It implies a fear of homosexuals. When in reality, most people aren’t afraid of them, they just don’t accept their lifestyle. However, I think way too much is being made of the Danny, Michael Sarver comment. If they don’t agree with the homosexual lifestyle, then that is their privilege.

Neither do I feel it’s unchristian for them to voice an opinion. This is still America. It was a wrong choice of words for Michael and Danny, I think. I’m not turning on them for their words. They have a right to their opinions just as everyone else does.

Just as some think Michael and Danny were judging, I think others may be judging them. This sounds like a double standard. I’m sure both of them like Adam as a person. It sort of reminds me of the girl who expressed her opinion at the Miss USA pageant. Carrie Dejean (?)

*sigh*

PICS OR IT DIDN’T HAPPEN.

Adam Lambert would never be at an Outback. It isn’t upscale enough for The Fierce One.

I guess I have a hard time with the term homophobic. It implies a fear of homosexuals. When in reality, most people arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t afraid of them, they just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t accept their lifestyle. However, I think way too much is being made of the Danny, Michael Sarver comment. If they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t agree with the homosexual lifestyle, then that is their privilege.

:laugh_tb: Not for nothing, but I always find the term “homosexual lifestyle” hilarious. I always picture in my head 2 impeccably dressed guys buying furniture at Ethan Allen while a little old lady screams “SINNERS!” at them. Then they all go to grab a bite and the nouvelle cuisine place up the block. Heh.

But I think the “fear of homosexuals” part comes not from the idea that one may have a religious objection to homosexuality, but from the idea that gay people are wanton godless hedonists having random sex all over the place and spreading “the AIDS”. While they try to recruit your children to their sordid lifestyle. And march in devilish parades. And that you absolutely must not ever be mistaken for one of these depraved creatures, hence the inability to touch, hug, show affection to, or openly “love” another man lest you become identified with the heathens. LOL. Yeah I think homophobic is a pretty accurate term for that.

About Homophobia… All I know is that as far as my personal experience goes, a straight man who’s confident and secure in his sexual orientation is more likely to express affection towards his male friends without reservation and fear. When you know what you are, you don’t constantly question what others say/think. Whenever someone tries really hard to make sure everyone knows they don’t swing “that way”, that sort of makes me go “Hmmm”.

David Cook has more bromances than I can count, and I love that about him. Doesn’t make me question his sexuality, just the opposite. I think Michael and Danny came off poorly, not because they’re Homophobes but because it shows they are insecure and far too worried about perception. Unappealing IMO.

>>ETA: So Michael Sarverà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s an ass now too? Why did they feel the need to define their love? Certainly nobody would have thought they were queer? Ugh!>>

abbysee, thats right, no one would have thought they were Gay but the issue is with them. The people who feel a need to say they arent Gay are the ones who are afraid, no, scared to death that people will think they are so they always have to qualify their affection towards a man. If it werent so sad it would be very funny.

Extra is reporting that Britney Spears may be performing on Wednesday’s finale night…… http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2009/05/britney_to_take_the_idol_stage.php

I can’t wait for the finale so that I can see Dave Cook back on that idol stage. He is the best idol to grace that stage and will still be my idol even after the crown is passed on. :wub_tb: He can show both Kris and Adam how it’s done. I don’t care who wins, I don’t really care for either one.
Any chance Dave will play BBS or duet with Carrie like at the Disney event?

Any chance Dave will play BBS or duet with Carrie like at the Disney event?

Carrie supposedly isn’t performing on Wednesday, so a duet is probably not an option. I think BBS is at this point only fan speculation and honestly I don’t know how I feel about that song being performed on the Idol stage. I’m not sure they’re ready for that side of Dave. LOL

He’s scheduled to be on Ellen the day of the finale, so that might be a tip-off if he does the same song (I expect he’d do CBTM on Ellen, though).

Article on David Cook from the The Manila Times

Lots of good Cookie crumbs in here, but I loved this:

TMT: Do you honestly think Simonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s comments really influence peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s comments on American Idol?

DC: (slight laugh) I hope not. Then weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re all screwed, right? I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d probably be shortsighted and naive to think that what the judges say donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t matter. Otherwise, why are they there? But you know, Simon pretty much threw me under the bus at the finale, and I ended up pulling it out. So who knows?

ETA: Woah, cookbunny. I didn’t expect that at all.

From Our Lady Peace’s MySpace LINK:

David Cook will be on the American Idol finale show this Wednesday, May 20th performing the song “Permanent” which he co-wrote with Raine.
The song will be available as a download on Itunes that night and all proceeds will go to David Cook’s charity for brain tumour research that he recently set up for his brother Adam, whom he lost a couple of weeks ago to cancer.
We’ll have a direct link to the Itunes single on Wednesday night, so be sure to check back here.

Edited cause Cookbunny posted first.

OMG.

Whoa. Permanent? When was the last time he performed that? That is going to be intense.

Wow I can’t believe he is doing Permanent. I hope he can get through it. He’s so amazing for performing it and donating the downloads to charity. Adam would be very proud.

WOW!

Holy shit. Talk about ending his reign as the current winner with a bang.

I’m seriously shocked. He hadn’t done this song in a very long time. I really hope he can get through it. I’m so proud of him for donating that money to a brain tumor charity, that’s exactly what I’d expect him to do, only I never thought Permanent would be an iTunes single up to now.

On a side note… I find it really funny that Our Lady Peace see fit to constantly spoil David’s song choices… Last year they gave away Innocent, this year Permanent.

Oh, WOW! He’s doing Permanent? How long has it been since he did Permanent? Wow.

I think the last time he played it was March 26th at Campbell University. That was two days before the William & Mary show where he announced the cancellation of those tour dates to spend time with Adam and family.

This is going to be gut-wrenching.

I suspected that Cook might have a charity download for the finale but I didn’t expect him to tackle Permanent. That’s intense and very admirable. OK…now I’m nervous about the results show…damn you Cookie.

OMG. No way am I missing that finale with such a Cookie moment now.
and that Manila Times article EmmaJK linked to is really good.

Idolatry completely and totally cracks me. I don’t necessarily agree with them on who they is going to win or who is good, but they crack me up every time.

Dave is singing PERMANENT for the finale? :glurps_tb: How will my soggy cookie be able to make it through that song? I will be a puddle on the floor. What a brave soul he is.

Emma, thanks for that link – the Manila Times article really was enjoyable!

I don’t know if I will be able to stand watching my Cookie singing Permanent, but it will be a great way to honor Adam and raise money for the brain cancer charity. He is so awesome to do this, but I know it will be hard on him and it will break my heart watching it.

http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-090517-idol-finale-week,0,4759918.story

Interview w/Cookie, talks about singing Permanent…

Regie Hamm wins songwriting award for The Rainbow

http://www.sesac.com/events/Event_News_Details.aspx?id=926

He talks about TOML as it nears its first anniversary

http://regiehamm.com/blog/2009/05/18/my-favorite-year

I do think Cook and The Band That Will Be Mysteriously Named Later ought to come up with a serious rocked out version of Magic Rainbow, just for the hell ot it.

That’s actually a cool idea (see, Rainbow, will you put the gun away now?) as long as Reggie Hamm wouldn’t be offended and think they were busting on his song.

I don ´t know is this was posted:
The Year’s Top-Earning ‘Idols

David Cook, the scruffy rocker and winner of the last Idol competition, earned an estimated $2 million since June of 2008. That’s a huge boost from what Cook made as a struggling singer-songwriter in Tulsa, Okla., before the winning the Idol crown last May.

Forbes estimates that Cook generated the bulk of his income from the 1.1 million copies sold of his self-titled major label debut album. Cook supplemented his music sales with a live tour and a product sponsorship deal with sneaker maker Skechers.

Cook’s final competitor, David Archuleta, has also enjoyed a remarkably lucrative year since making it to the Idol finals. Archuleta made an estimated $1.3 million from sales of his first album and more than 100 live concerts.

More on the link…

Regie Hamm wins songwriting award for The Rainbow

Now I’ve seen everything.

Regie Hamm wins songwriting award for The Rainbow

http://www.sesac.com/events/Event_News_Details.aspx?id=926

He talks about TOML as it nears its first anniversary

http://regiehamm.com/blog/2009/05/18/my-favorite-year

OMG, thanks for posting these. Regie’s blog has me in tears. Couple the end of his blog with the one (last Summer) about his daughter and China… The Magic Rainbow is a very special song indeed.

Wow.

I think Michael and Danny came off poorly, not because theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re Homophobes but because it shows they are insecure and far too worried about perception.

YES! One of the things I love most about David Archuleta is that I feel he is so open about everything, which shows how secure he is in who he is. I haven’t followed Cook much, but I think he is also secure in who he is. Neither one of them hesitate to express their love for others.

Wow, just Wow, at that Forbes List. Go David X2. They took home a lot more than I thought they would from their cd’s/concerts/etc. It shows to me that winning & coming in 2nd definitely can pay off. Of course, the caliber of the winner/runner-up sure helps.

Did you guys see Bill Oà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢Reillyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s segment tonight on Adam and Kris??

He introduced Adam as à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“might-be-gayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and Kris as à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Christianà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

They plastered the photos of Adam kissing that guy all over the screen again, and they pointed out how all the other Idol winners (Carrie, Kelly, Ruben, Jordin, etc.) are devout Christians and that the fact Danny was Christian, his voters will go Kris.

They made a big deal of Kris being Christian but never mentioned Adam was Jewish. Just that Adam hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mentioned his religion on the show.

Finally, the show insinuated that Simon told America to vote for Adam because he was worried that America might not vote for Adam because heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not Christian when there were two Christian singers competing against him.

Basically, it was a vote for Kris campaign because heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the good married Christian guy.

I honestly cannot believe people donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam is an underdogà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.. lol

It is funny how people can watch a show and see things so differently. The whole Bill Oreilly segment was focused on a Newsweek piece that was written about this Christian issue. The Newsweek guy talked about whether people think some people vote for one because they are Christian– definitely not a a vote for Kris campaign….

Also mentioned was the fact that Kris had not talked about his religion.

It is funny how people can watch a show and see things so differently. The whole Bill Oreilly segment was focused on a Newsweek piece that was written about this Christian issue. The Newsweek guy talked about whether people think some people vote for one because they are Christianà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ definitely not a a vote for Kris campaignà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

They said that Kris is obviously a Christian because he wears a cross and married young. They said that Adam never mentioned his religion. Not once did they mention Adam is Jewish. Plus, to me, you don’t call people the “maybe gay guy”. That is disrespectful. He has a name.

The point is, the segment never should have taken place. The hidden message was obvious, and yes it was a vote for Kris campaign. I am not the only one who thinks this.

liked Rickey Braddy and hoped he would have been chosen for the top 12/13, but his little swipe at Adam was nasty

huh? What happened? And this Sarver Gokey love stuff.. none of the vids are available now. What are you guys talking bout???? Tell!

May 18, 2009
24 hours to showtime: Adam Lambert and Kris Allen offer final thoughts
06:38 PM PT, May 18 2009

Photo With less than 24 hours to their final à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  performances, last men standing Adam Lambert and Kris Allen took a timeout to meet the press.

And mostly, they tried to prop each other up.

Allen dismissed the idea that his background as a Christian church singer would give him a boost.

Winning à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“has to do with talent,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  he said. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not about religion or all that stuff.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Lambert said, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d hope people would vote based on what they hear. It’s an equal opportunity situation.”

Neither would admit that nerves have gotten to them — yet.

On a scale of 1 to 10, “I’d say about I’m at a 5,” Lambert said. Allen nodded, adding, “Tomorrow it’ll be a 10.”

Lambert enters the final performance the clear front-runner, having won over the judges week after week and singularly capturing the attention of the media. Last week’s guest artist Katy Perry was even so bold as to sing with a cape emblazoned with “Adam Lambert” on the back. Producers were not happy.

When asked if his theater experience has given him a leg up during the show, Lambert said he didn’t see it that way.

“This isn’t theater so I don’t see how it matters at all. We both have experience,” he said, pointing to Allen’s background playing in bars and clubs.

Said Allen: “I have just as much experience as he has — I just wasn’t in ‘Wicked.’ ”

Reporters tried to get the contestants to reveal their final song choices for Tuesday — and of course, both were tight-lipped.

“They’re good songs,” Lambert teased. “We think you’ll like them.”

“We’re just totally different artists,” Allen said.

With very different getting-ready regimens.

Asked how they will prepare tomorrow before the show, they gave answers that show their different personalities. “I’m going to go rehearse and then just try and get ready,” Allen said; Lambert offered, “I’m going to order a really big room service breakfast.” Including something with “lots of hollandaise.”

Further elaborating on the differences, Lambert said, “I have a very messy bathroom situation. Kris has like three products and I have every product I can get my hands on.”

All kidding aside, Lambert summed up the excitement for both: “At this point we both feel like we’ve already won.”

– Denise Martin and Richard Rushfield

Photo credit: Richard Rushfield

Article Link

Here is the bill o’reilly segment on adam/kris & christianity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACNvP6b8Tnw

Thanks for that ^ article. LOL at the bathroom situation.

Cookie singing Permanent at the finale…yay! That is my favorite from his album and being the soppy, sentimental Filipino that I am, I wished he’d sing that in Manila but knew that he wouldn’t/couldn’t.

Speaking of the Manila concert, the author of that Manila Times article on DC also wrote a very nice review of the concert. (I agree with just about everything he wrote.)

http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/may/19/yehey/life/20090509lif5.html

(Sorry for the ugly link. I’m on my mobile.)

virgo03v- We will have to agree to disagree on a “hidden meaning”.

I don’t know where to put this, so sorry MJ if it’s the wrong place. Cook’s interview set up by Sony Malaysia is made of AWESOME:

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

He talks about naming the band after a tanning salon (not!), dynamics of the tour bus, not giving up, President Obama, and um, Dublin’s recording contract (Hee). It’s his most entertaining and revealing interview yet. Didn’t want any Cook fans to miss this.

daenarys, thanks for those links! What a fun interview, I love it.

“Just as some think Michael and Danny were judging, I think others may be judging them.”

I think the crux of the problem is that gays are no longer satisfied with mere tolerance. They want acceptance. This puts them into conflict with much of the Christian community.