Idol Headlines for 05/09/10

The Girls With Glasses concept is adorable…perfect for Brooke and Summer. Saw some other stop-motion video connected with the show that was tons of fun. This Jason Reeves guy obviously has a lot of talent, too.

A great idol judges panel: Harry Connick Jr, Shaina Twain and Jaime Foxx.

I never understood why people think Stern would make a good judge. You might as well put The Real Housewives of Orange County as judges or the cast of Jersey Shore. Its all just let’s see how crappy we can treat people can get away with it. Even though Simon can be really mean at least he is trying to point out something. IMHO

OH I was expecting a tweetgate 2.0 today…

OH I was expecting a tweetgate 2.0 today…

Give it time. I kind of love Adam for his most recent tweet, though.

I never understood why people think Stern would make a good judge. Even though Simon can be really mean at least he is trying to point out something.

1. LOL
2. I totally agree.
3. Plus, Simon actually knows something about the music business. Granted, it’s about the music business of 20 years ago, but still.

Vtu
Omg me too, that’s why I love Adam. Yeah but wait for it maybe we should get MJ some migraine stuff….

A great idol judges panel: Harry Connick Jr, Shaina Twain and Jaime Foxx.

I would love this panel, and I really feel like Shania week and HCJ week were almost tryouts to be judges. I can’t see Adam wanting the job, it would tie up too much time for someone still trying to lauch a career. Also, I know this sounds weird and I don’t mean it disrespectfully, but I think Adam has an unpleasant speaking voice. It is too sharp or something. I think Kara has the same problem.

smeggingnuts:
05/09/2010 at 11:02 am
Vtu
Omg me too, that’s why I love Adam. Yeah but wait for it maybe we should get MJ some migraine stuff

Yeah, he needs to do that to the BSC fans. Tweeting Kris and berating him is really crossing the line. But some people are saying that tweet was about Christina too- what was that about? I follow twitter inline but don’t have an account- were fans saying stuff about her?

Re: Stern- That was all self promotion on his part I think. HE is the one who started that rumor about him judging and then the press, with their inability to follow up on anything, just took it that he was being considered.

ETA: OMG ya gotta love this tweet:

@CoralMermaid: @adamlambert but what about those of us who have been nice, good fans…we deserve slaps too!
half a minute ago from Echofon · Reply

Adam worded that last tweet smartly. With the last line, you can pretty much tell who he’s talking about without coming out and saying it.

Oh, and Happy Mothers Day!

Umm… I heard some fans thought Xtina stole his tornado? Or maybe they just didn’t like that he liked Woohoo?

Hmm re: xtina that might be some fans started crying double standard because a lot of what she did in her new music video is stuff Adam got introuble for on the AMA’s.

Adam:
slap on the wrist goes out to a few of my “fans” who r hating on other artists & their fans. Grow up ladies- negativity is so last season.
about 1 hour ago via Echofon

Adam was copied a lot on the insane/negative messages sent to Kris. Not surprised to see this twit. Good for Adam to speak out his mind on this

For some reason Jennifer Hudson and making a Euro-Pop album, don’t seem to go together in a sentence. I don’t see how they would make it work. Her voice is not anywhere close to pop.

Haha omg that tweet is funny Studio hehehe

This is like a soap opera. So now we’re not only slapping Kris and Matt on the hand for that tweet but the Adam fans… I guess tomorrow is the Kris’ fans turn.

Laury:
05/09/2010 at 10:39 am
A great idol judges panel: Harry Connick Jr, Shaina Twain and Jaime Foxx

You lost me after HC, and had me screaming in mock terror when you mentioned Jamie Foxx. Heh. Do Not Want. Steve Lillywhite is the most interesting suggestion I’ve heard to replace Simon.

Adam:
slap on the wrist goes out to a few of my “fans” who r hating on other artists & their fans. Grow up ladies- negativity is so last season.
about 1 hour ago via Echofon

I am impressed by this tweet. I think it was worded very well, and funny too.

I think Shania would be a great judge. I’ve never been crazy about her voice, but I like her performances and she’s a smart woman and good songwriter.

On a different note, Prince William and Prince Harry are huge fans of Adam. Maybe next time Adam goes back to the UK, he can meet them.

Adam is going to be interviewed on CNN International

http://www.ireport.com/ir-topic-stories.jspa?topicId=441347&hpt=C2

Good for Adam, and not the first time he’s done that.

Yeah, he needs to do that to the BSC fans. Tweeting Kris and berating him is really crossing the line. But some people are saying that tweet was about Christina too- what was that about?

Unfortunately I think this is a multiple choice question where the answer is probably “all of the above” (as to who was getting hated on by OTT fans). There were also a bunch of people tweeting nasty stuff about Danny yesterday, as there were comments about it being the anniversary of the top 3 homecoming for AI8 with “Adam Lambert Day,” “Kris Allen Day” and “Danny Gokey Day.”
I never get it. If I don’t like someone, I certainly don’t want to spend my time tweeting obnoxious crap out to the universe to them and about them. And when you’re talking about AI8, much less do I want to do that a full year after any of these folks were in competition with each other. Ugh

Adam is going to be interviewed on CNN International

http://www.ireport.com/ir-topic-stories.jspa?topicId=441347&hpt=C2

Oh, isn’t this he session we’ve been posting questions for?

I love Brooke White, she’s one of my all time favorites. I’ve brought everything she’s put out. That Girls With Glasses show is perfect for her. I watched it yesterday, and she’s adorable in it.

I have no idea what they are going to do about judging next year, but I have serious doubts it will be Stern.

It’s interesting that some Adam fans evidently are hating on Christina for allegedly coping him, because I’ve seen Lady Gaga fans claiming Christina is copying from her. It’s all so silly…

It’s interesting that some Adam fans evidently are hating on Christina for allegedly coping him, because I’ve seen Lady Gaga fans claiming Christina is copying from her. It’s all so silly…

I think it’s very few fans really. No need to generalize over the whole fanbase. And woops, didn’t mean to sound like I was lecturing but all fanbases do crazy stuff. Adam called out some of his fans but that doesn’t mean it’s not happening elsewhere.

sorry but i’m a bit lost. why did adam tweet that? can someone give a recap please? thanks!!!

girlygirl:
05/09/2010 at 11:42 am

It’s interesting that some Adam fans evidently are hating on Christina for allegedly coping him, because I’ve seen Lady Gaga fans claiming Christina is copying from her. It’s all so silly…

…and not to be confused by all the comments I read after Adam’s Idol performance of WWFM that he was copying Muse. It truly is all very silly, ITA. It’s not like any of these performers invented the theatrical use of lasers or other special effects — they are all bound to overlap ideas/effects at some point.

Hmmm….the thought of a slap from Adam almost makes the negativity worthwhile.

I kid, I kid. (Sort of…). lol

sorry but i’m a bit lost. why did adam tweet that? can someone give a recap please? thanks!!!

LOL! You must have missed yesterday’s headlines threads. In a nutshell, Kris tweeted something to the effect that middle age ladies look funny when they dance. MAL mobilized and tweeted to KA to quit the MAL bashing. I believe some of those who tweeted, in addition to others, were AL fans.

smeggingnuts:
05/09/2010 at 11:25 am
Hmm re: xtina that might be some fans started crying double standard because a lot of what she did in her new music video is stuff Adam got introuble for on the AMA’s

Not sure that’s a fair comparison on their part though. I thought the issue with the AMAs was more that it was a live TV performance. Christina did a TV performance on Oprah of her song and it was way toned down, not like her video. Actually, I think Adam’s AMA performance may have been raunchier than his video.

sorry but i’m a bit lost. why did adam tweet that? can someone give a recap please? thanks!!!

Basically a bunch of Adam’s older fans totally overreacted to a Kris Allen tweet about old ladies dancing. They decided to find malice where there wasn’t any, and apparently also revealed that they only like people “unfiltered” when that quality doesn’t make them personally uncomfortable. Anyway, they started tweeting complaints to Kris and Adam chose to respond to tell them to get a life. Now they’ve REALLY got their granny panties in a twist.

tls62:
05/09/2010 at 11:48 am
Hmmm….the thought of a slap from Adam almost makes the negativity worthwhile.

I kid, I kid. (Sort of…). lol

lol Did you see @CoralMermaid’s tweet reply to Adam? Funny.

thanks undercooked! so i guess they were hating on KA’s fans too? whew. will try to read through yesterday’s headline threads…i love how adam calls out his own fans on the craziness.
eta:thanks niall!

Most of the @replies to Adam are agreeing with him. But unfortunately there are a few that don’t get it.

Oh and in my earlier post I should have said SOME of Lady Gaga fans think Christina is copying her — not all of Gaga’s fanbase think that (I hope)

rachiel:
05/09/2010 at 11:44 am

sorry but i’m a bit lost. why did adam tweet that? can someone give a recap please? thanks!!!

I believe it all goes back to a Friday night tweet Kris made that was likely just poking fun at the way his mom and her friends were dancing. He generalized his comment implying that it was amusing watching middle aged ladies dance because they had no rhythm, or some such (don’t remember the exact wording ’cause it just wasn’t a big deal to me!). Truly, IMO, he was just making the comment to the people with whom he’d just been out, but some over invested fans (IMO, anyway)–his and Adam’s alike, from what I understand–kind of let him have it with a barrage of angry tweets of their own. So, either having been copied on many of these tweets or maybe hearing about it all from Kris, Adam tweeted asking these “fans” to cut it out.

Maybe Xtina never saw Adam’s green tornado on AI so her people thought it would be new to Oprah’s audience. LOL

Never thought twice about Kris’s tweet. It’s a “so what” to me. It’s a slow twitter news day me thinks. (yesterday, anyway)

Basically a bunch of Adam’s older fans totally overreacted to a Kris Allen tweet about old ladies dancing.

I thought the dislike came from all fanbases?

A little more than a week to the Final 3 homecomings on Idol (which used to be a big thing), folks (here at least) are focusing on some silly twitter nonsense dealing with peeps from S8. At this point, the Idol ship has usually moved to new fan wars. Even S6 had built up more buzz by now. Wow.

Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms out there!

So far on twitter, it looks like the vast majority of reactions to Adam’s tweet are positive. I kinda thought he’d stay out of the fray, but I guess he felt like he needed to put a stop to the negativity. I think he worded his tweet well. He is a sweetheart, even if some of his OTT fans don’t get it.

LOL now I see fans asking him to give them a slap somewhere. LOL

I thought the dislike came from all fanbases?

They did. But Adam wasn’t calling them out in his tweet, he was calling out his “fans.” That’s why I phrased it that way because what Anoop, Kris, or Matt fans did or didn’t do was irrelevant to what Adam wrote.

A little more than a week to the Final 3 homecomings on Idol (which used to be a big thing), folks (here at least) are focusing on some silly twitter nonsense dealing with peeps from S8. At this point, the Idol ship has usually moved to new fan wars. Even S6 had built up more buzz by now. Wow.

Apparently, season 8 was a high point for internet blogs like MJs (in terms of intenet traffic), it’s not that surprising that a large part is still stuck to last season (that’s what happen generally).

But S9 has definetely failed to bring new people on board, thus the tired dicussions coming back and back again.

Niall:
05/09/2010 at 11:54 am
Now they’ve REALLY got their granny panties in a twist.

I’m not a granny, but I think if he had tweeted that say, teens can’t dance, he would have got the same backlash. It’s the nature of twitter, with the tweets out there for everyone to see. Things don’t always translate well over twitter.

A little more than a week to the Final 3 homecomings on Idol (which used to be a big thing), folks (here at least) are focusing on some silly twitter nonsense dealing with peeps from S8. At this point, the Idol ship has usually moved to new fan wars. Even S6 had built up more buzz by now. Wow.

This makes you sad that there aren’t fan wars this season? I love it. There are certainly fans of the idols on here, I have seen a lot of Crystal, Casey, Lee, and some Mike fans too. I think this season though people are rooting for their favorites without dragging others down, which is a nice change. Lee is probably my least favorite left, and at times I almost wanted to post snarky things, but I love some of his recorded performances, and I think he is a nice guy so I’m not going to post something mean.

Niall:
05/09/2010 at 11:54 am
Basically a bunch of Adam’s older fans totally overreacted to a Kris Allen tweet about old ladies dancing. They decided to find malice where there wasn’t any, and apparently also revealed that they only like people “unfiltered” when that quality doesn’t make them personally uncomfortable. Anyway, they started tweeting complaints to Kris and Adam chose to respond to tell them to get a life. Now they’ve REALLY got their granny panties in a twist.

Totally disagree.

Yesterday, a small number of people (exact age unknown) reacted to a tweet from Kris which, on its face, appeared to insult the dancing abilities of middle aged women. Kris fans have since supplied the context of the tweet, i.e. that Kris was apparently watching his mom and her friends dance and the tweet was an example of his dry humor directed at them, but we don’t know for sure because Kris subsequently deleted his tweet without comment, except for a later self-deprecating comment about his own dancing abilities. This tweet from Adam may or may not be in response to that situation – we don’t know, since Adam kept it general and he could be referring to other artists, such as Xtina whom he tweeted about shortly before this tweet.

Fans were sending tweets to @krisallen giving him heck for his twitter statement (he was trying to be funny)about middle aged women dancing off beat…these tweets included @adamlambert so Adam saw the negative tweets in his replies.

Yesterday headline thread was filled with the drama…MJ probably had to delete a lot of it. Adam had to send a tweet re: the Danny Gokey thing last year, really Kris tweet wasn’t bad. He’s 24yrs old really any one over 35 is over the hill. He wasn’t being nasty or mean, but the wank some fans had over it was ridic

cwm:
05/09/2010 at 12:04 pm
LOL now I see fans asking him to give them a slap somewhere. LOL

And not on the wrist, I’ll bet. Funny stuff.

Baebae
I didn’t say I agreed just stating that was what some people were talking about.

Naill
*sigh* I don’t want to rehash yesterday but I think we can agree that it wasn’t just some Adam fans that were upset I don’t think its fair to blanket entire groups of people.

LaurelG:
05/09/2010 at 12:08 pm
This tweet from Adam may or may not be in response to that situation – we don’t know, since Adam kept it general and he could be referring to other artists, such as Xtina whom he tweeted about shortly before this tweet.

Another good point. It’s hard to tell with tweets.

girlygirl
“Oh and in my earlier post I should have said SOME of Lady Gaga fans think Christina is copying her — not all of Gaga’s fanbase think that (I hope)”

I saw Christina’s performance on Oprah, which was unbelievable and her vocals totally out of this world. In my opinion, I don’t think Christina was copying Gaga, I think it was a continuation and evolution of what she was doing for her last album and tour. I can’t wait for Christina’s album and hopefully to see her in concert. I respect what Gaga do, because she is a phenomenon, but I have yet to buy any of her music. Her whole act is to surprise and shock people. Christina voice is what draws me to her, she’s one of a few who is great singing live. Her debut single sounded better on Oprah, then what I heard on the radio. I wasn’t a fan of the song, because it was so different then what she had on the last album.

I really hope Crystal makes the top 3. Not just because I like her, but reading that article about her hometown looking forward to her visit just made me realize how heartbroken they would be if she didn’t make it home with the full Idol treatment. Plus, its such a small broke town that the influx of cash would do them some good. Go Crystal!

smeggingnuts:
05/09/2010 at 12:11 pm
Baebae
I didn’t say I agreed just stating that was what some people were talking about.

I know, smeggs. That’s why I wrote “on their part”.

I’m not a granny, but I think if he had tweeted that say, teens can’t dance, he would have got the same backlash. It’s the nature of twitter, with the tweets out there for everyone to see. Things don’t always translate well over twitter.

Translation isn’t the problem. People reading twitter CHOOSE to take offense where none is meant. Or they totally forget basic rules like context. Or they refuse to apply logic and reason to the words they are reading. It’s like the only rush they get in life is getting in a huff over something that wasn’t directed at them and wasn’t insulting even if it was.

If Kris is is getting a lot of attention, albeit negative attention, on twitter why does Adam need to inject himself into it?

I really hope Crystal makes the top 3. Not just because I like her, but reading that article about her hometown looking forward to her visit just made me realize how heartbroken they would be if she didn’t make it home with the full Idol treatment. Plus, its such a small broke town that the influx of cash would do them some good. Go Crystal!

I agree, I live in a similar type of rust belt city, and it can get bleak. When someone big happens for one of the locals it really can rally the town and brighten spirits. If Crystal makes it to top 3 her hometown package is going to make me tear up I know.

Niall, twitter has no context, which is probably why it’s the devil.

This is a terrific interview with Allison. All of Yong Chavez’s interviews with the S8 Idols have been so much fun. She asks good questions that haven’t been answered a zillion times

Niall:
05/09/2010 at 12:15 pm
Translation isn’t the problem.

Well, we all have our opinions. I think it is.

Caden:

If Kris is is getting a lot of attention, albeit negative attention, on twitter why does Adam need to inject himself into it?

Adam doesn’t like negativity, esp coming from his own fans.

Good for Adam, re: his tweet to his ‘fans’ whether it’s about the Kris crapola from yesterday or some notion that Christina Aguilera is copying him or whatever.

I like his honesty; just as I like Kris’s snarky sense of humour.

Good for both of them.

ETA:
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Translation isn’t the problem. People reading twitter CHOOSE to take offense where none is meant. Or they totally forget basic rules like context.

THIS! Though I don’t believe that that is restricted to Twitter; it infects the whole internet.

This makes you sad that there aren’t fan wars this season? I love it. There are certainly fans of the idols on here,

I don’t care about fan wars but the interest in Idol is at an all time low. At this point in an Idol season, fans are engaged and excited because OMG the homecomings are next.

All the signs are there that the ship is sinking. For example, I’m sure that the majority of comments here will be continue to be about Oldbag stupid shit twittergate. And we’re two days away from the Top 4 on Idol. Yikes

Not that Idol blogs tells the whole story of a season but still Yikes.

Geez…glad I missed out on all of that. Here I thought sitting through a 3 hour graduation followed by a 4 year old’s b-day party at Chuckie Cheese yesterday was bad! lol

Twitter is a nightmare for artists. I see why a lot of stars keep their tweets very generic to just career info, tour info, etc. When you use it like you’re just an average Joe posting to your little group of friends, trouble is bound to insue. No way you’re ever going to please hundreds of thousands of followers. It’s indeed the devil. lol

What’s the point in disputing that the interest in Idol seems to be at an all time low? All the signs are there that the ship is sinking.

Which makes me think X factor will just sail in and take over…

LaurelG:
05/09/2010 at 12:08 pm
This tweet from Adam may or may not be in response to that situation – we don’t know, since Adam kept it general and he could be referring to other artists, such as Xtina whom he tweeted about shortly before this tweet.

It’s possible, but I think Adam’s use of the phrase, “so last season” instead of one of the usual uses of the phrase, “so last year” or “so yesterday,” kind of hints at the Kris Twitter situation.

Caden:
05/09/2010 at 12:17 pm

If Kris is is getting a lot of attention, albeit negative attention, on twitter why does Adam need to inject himself into it?

I’m guessing it’s ’cause he seems to be a nice guy and friend. I know if one of my friends were getting nasty comments from other of my friends and I thought that person didn’t deserve it, I’d certainly step in to ask those negative friends to knock it off. Kris was getting comments, from what I understand, from certain “fans” of both his and Adam’s bases, but I’m sure Adam felt responsible for the part some of his fans were taking in this negativity.

tls62:
05/09/2010 at 12:24 pm
Geez…glad I missed out on all of that. Here I thought sitting through a 3 hour graduation followed by a 4 year old’s b-day party at Chuckie Cheese yesterday was bad! lol

Oh you poor thing. lol I think I’d call it a draw.

What’s the point in disputing that the interest in Idol seems to be at an all time low? All the signs are there that the ship is sinking.

I’m just pointing out that just because this seasons fans aren’t at each others throats doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Also, it’s top 4 week, why not wait until Top 3 week to actually really get excited about homecoming visits? Seems like putting the cart before the horse.

I don’t care about fan wars but the interest in Idols seems to be at an all time low. At this point in an Idol season, fans are engaged and excited because OMG the homecomings are next.

What’s the point in disputing that the interest in Idol seems to be at an all time low? All the signs are there that the ship is sinking. For example, I’s sure that the majority of comments here will be continue to be about Oldbag stupid shit twittergate. And we’re two days awway from the Top 4 on Idol. Yikes

I agree with your read on this situation. Do you think it will get better if they have a more engaging cast next year? Or do you think Idol will never quite recover, with Simon leaving and all?

If Crystal makes it to top 3 her hometown package is going to make me tear up I know.

Ditto. Just the article made me teary.

I must have missed something….what happened to Kris?

In my view, Kris’ original tweet was rather thoughtless (because at face value it wasn’t at all apparent that he was talking about his mother and her friends, rather than middle-aged women in general), and it fell totally flat as a joke. I can see why some folks had a negative reaction to it (shoot, I’m a middle-aged woman and I have great rhythm!).

But he probably did not mean it in a mean-spirited way, and it certainly was NOT worth spewing hate over. There are so many more important things to get worked up about.

And I appreciate Adam’s attempt to step in and stop the negativity and spread some love.

Hopefully all sides are cooling off and we can move on. Happy Mother’s Day!

^^^
That’s probably true.

That being said, what ever happened to free speech being the form of entitlement that’s sexy?

I personally wouldn’t have said any of the things that people were saying about Kris, but it didn’t seem to me like any of the stuff people were posting about Kris were any more low-brow than what Adam said about Susan Boyle.

Where would Kris and Adam be if not for their middle-aged female fans?

Some good news. Two Canadian Hot AC stations — one in Montreal and one in Vancouver — have officially added If I Had You

i think adam “injecting himself into it” is consistent with his trying to remain a positive person. i talked to one of his close friends and she said that all of this success couldn’t have happened to a nicer,sweeter person.

Or do you think Idol will never quite recover, with Simon leaving and all?

I can’t believe it but Paula leaving has really hurt the show. Simon seems checked out already actually.

Crystal will get a homecoming package. There is no way she isn’t make it to the top three. (I hope!). I think she will be really touched. I get the impression she’s had a hard life and I think having an outpouring of love from her hometown will be so wonderful for her.

I agree, last year at this time, people were combing the local news media to see what kind of preperations were being made for the homecomings. As I recall, they start preparing for them this week because it takes some time to get it togehter. I recall Jason Castro not making it to the top 3 but his hometown carried on with the festivities as well.

Looking at the spins Kris has gotten from stations that have not added the new single yet, I would say that he has a good shot at being added by these 3 stations — KURB in Little Rock, WPST in Trenton, NJ and WQAL in Cleveland. Maybe also WTIC in Hartford. Those stations have all spun TT at least 5 times over the past 7 days.

rachiel:
05/09/2010 at 12:33 pm

i think adam “injecting himself into it” is consistent with his trying to remain a positive person.

To me it smacks of arrogance. He is assuming that he needs to get into it because his “fans” are tweeting Kris but by injecting himself into it he brings attention back to himself and away from Kris and he also makes a situation that has nothing to do with him, all about him. I don’t know, he should let Kris handle it like the big boy he is.

I must have missed something….what happened to Kris?

Nothing happened to Kris. If you want to know what people are talking about, please go back to the first page and read through the thread. I don’t mean to be bitchy about it, but the constant hashing and rehashing and rehashing and rehashing is bogging down the thread.

I personally wouldn’t have said any of the things that people were saying about Kris, but it didn’t seem to me like any of the stuff people were posting about Kris were any more low-brow than what Adam said about Susan Boyle.

Apples and oranges.

To me, Adam simply has his friend’s back. He is an extremely positive person who obviously doesn’t like all the hate. I disagree that his tweet has anything to do with him wanting attention. He gets more than enough attention on his own.

It wasn’t arrogant, there was a twitterer that created an account to continually tweet adam telling him to call his fans off in several different ways. And there were many others using the @adamlambert complaining about the negativity. His whole feed was probably filled with peeps telling him to intervene.

GHAAAAA!!!!

Someone over at Top Idol said they sent Adam Lambert the link to some of his fans ‘bitchin’ about the “tweets” by Kris and Matt. How stupid some of them were acting and I guess it bothered Adam.

I guess Adam finally saw how some people were following (I mean stalking) Kris and other contestants just to bother them. Especially since Adam sees them as his friends.

I will give him that for writing that…maybe some of the crazies will stop making a big deal over Kris and other contestants harmless tweets. They are making a mountain out of a mole hill to bash other contestants they don’t like, but Adam is friends with.

Adam doesn’t need any more attention, and if felt he needed some, this is not how he would get it. He would never try and steal Kris’s thunder — he adores him.

I can’t believe it but Paula leaving has really hurt the show. Simon seems checked out already actually.

Simon checked out 2 years ago to me. That’s why I am amazed that people would really miss him if he were gone.

I get the impression she’s had a hard life and I think having an outpouring of love from her hometown will be so wonderful for her.

Yeah, definitely.

Seeing Lee’s will be interesting too. Chicago is a major city, usually they are kinda blase to Idol. But I think a lot of people will show up for him anyway.

gangreen29:
05/09/2010 at 11:04 am
I would love this panel, and I really feel like Shania week and HCJ week were almost tryouts to be judges.

My only problem with Harry Connick Jr. is that I’d hope he can tone down the comedy. It’s okay in its place, but as a judge, you don’t want it always on.

Someone over at Top Idol said they sent Adam Lambert the link to some of his fans ‘bitchin’ about the “tweets” by Kris and Matt. How stupid some of them were acting and I guess it bothered Adam.

I’m sure it did bother him. Kris is his friend and I’m glad he stepped in. I think he has to step in to let his fans know that he doesn’t condone this kind of behavior. I wonder if anyone has sent Kris a link to Top Idol? I’m sure Kris wouldn’t dig some of the stuff that is said about Adam over there. I tell you it’s tough being an idol, but I think these guys are doing pretty well navigating the waters.

And to bring it back to Season 9, I think this year’s contestants have gotten off pretty easy compared to seasons’s past. I do think that is because there are not the fan wars. I don’t know of Crystal realizes how easy she has had it compared to Kris, Adam, and the Davids…let alone Rueben, Taylor and Clay!

Simon checked out 2 years ago to me. That’s why I am amazed that people would really miss him if he were gone.

I really think people are going to be surprised how well a simonless panel works out if they find the right replacement (and ditch Kara and Randy for upgrades). Simon is not as engaging as he once was, and nothing he says comes across as shocking anymore.

mj:
05/09/2010 at 12:46 pm

GHAAAAA!!!!

Poor mj, I think you need to create a virtual padded room where these passionate circular discussions can take place 24/7 with out clogging up the main threads. And I say that in the nicest way possible as one who has occasionally gotten sucked into the fray. Seems to me communication is one of the hardest things that humans do.

Happy mothers day to all!!

mj:
05/09/2010 at 12:46 pm

GHAAAAA!!!!

Tee hee. It’s the Idol fan version of Alexis v. Krystle. Specifically, at the 1:25 min mark…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELzjQ8F_2gE&feature=related

I think it bothered Adam that a few of his fans were acting with PHONY indignation every time Kris, Matt or anyone wrote some harmless tweet…like they were writing it directly to them…lol

Shows the level of some crazy stupid fans…and it probably bothered Adam that a few of his fans were ‘bitchin’ and acting like B*** towards his friends.

Some of his fans forget that Adam, Kris and Matt have gone through almost A WHOLE YEAR together during Hollywood week,, the show and then the tour. They know each other more than any of the fans do. You know they have grown very close. That shows ignorance to constantly stalk and then attack his friends. They are truly sickening and I am sure it bothers him…or he wouldn’t have wrote that.

Seeing Lee’s will be interesting too. Chicago is a major city, usually they are kinda blase to Idol. But I think a lot of people will show up for him anyway.

Lee’s will also be heartwarming. As I recall, he’s had a tough go of it as well. What a self esteem builder this whole AI run has to be for him.

I’m ok with with either Crystal or Lee winning. Heck I’m ok with Mike and even Casey winning. I think the all have something to offer.

I’m sure Kris wouldn’t dig some of the stuff that is said about Adam over there.

In a few interviews, Adam has said he knows about what people are saying about him. He has had to ignore them, and says there have been so many positive and supportive fans, that he is honored by those. Adam also knows that those “negative” people will never bother to give his music a chance, and he is not going to try and change their minds.

There isn’t anyone, including Kris, who can say anything to change how some people feel about Adam. It really does break my heart.

gangreen29:
05/09/2010 at 12:53 pm
I really think people are going to be surprised how well a simonless panel works out if they find the right replacement

I agree. There are Idol shows in various countries and they do fine without Simon.

I think it bothered Adam that a few of his fans were acting with PHONY indignation every time Kris, Matt or anyone wrote some harmless tweet…like they were writing it directly to them…lol

ITA Tinydance, ITA.

Speaking of the S9 hometown visits — is Lee from Chicago or from one of the suburbs? If he’s from a smaller suburb rather than the city itself, I would think his hometown package would be more personal. I the past it seems like the contestants from big cities have been a little short changed in that dept. in the homecoming packages.

I think Adam’s twitter account should be managed by his team. that’s all.

Speaking of the S9 hometown visits — is Lee from Chicago or from one of the suburbs? If he’s from a smaller suburb rather than the city itself, I would think his hometown package would be more personal. I the past it seems like the contestants from big cities have been a little short changed in that dept. in the homecoming packages.

Yes, Kat’s homecoming was pretty anti-climatic, but I live in Los Angeles and so I’m not surprised. It’s just we’re all burnt out with the traffic! By the way, I might go check out Matt in LaCanada if I find the time and find the info… does anyone have the gig deets?

Seeing Lee’s will be interesting too. Chicago is a major city, usually they are kinda blase to Idol. But I think a lot of people will show up for him anyway.

Actually, because Chicago is broken into so many neighborhoods, each with its own “personality,” I don’t find it blase at all! But Lee is actually from the Northwest suburb of Mount Prospect, (a place I’ve visited frequently over the years as it’s the home of a really dear friend of mine and just 45 minutes north of my house) and, from what I’ve come to know about the town, they are CERTAINLY not going to be anything less than ecstatic about Lee’s success on Idol.

Is it true that Sir Elton is going to be a judge on AI afterall? or just rumor?

Is it true that Sir Elton is going to be a judge on AI afterall? or just rumor?

I think it is just an AI pipedream although I would love it to be true.

Adam is on a tweeting roll today!

AdamLambert

#@KrisAllen give your mom a big hug from me! 24 minutes ago via Echofon in reply to KrisAllen

#Ha. Was inspired by Elvis. @douglascsanchez I think that @adamlambert’s profile pic is a big copy of Bill Kaulitz style 16 minutes ago via Echofon

#I was rockin this hairdo when bill still had his lions mane…all this copycat talk is dumb. Hahaha. I’m gonna incite a fan riot. Such fun. 14 minutes ago via Echofon

#Been wearing eye makeup and nail polish since that boy was like 12 or something… No ones copying… Just so happen to have similar taste. 12 minutes ago via Echofon

#Relaaaaaaaaax folks spend your energy more wisely. 11 minutes ago via Echofon

#”…doing me up w a black color liner… And I’m workin my strut but I know IT DONT MATTER all we need in this world is some LOVE” 9 minutes ago via Echofon

so it appears that Adam has some downtime today, LOL….step away from the iphone before you get into trouble!

Not that Idol blogs tells the whole story of a season but still Yikes.

I agree, Yikes! I like that there are virtually no S9 fan wars, but it seems to result from a lack of passionate supporters rather than better behaved fans.

OTOH, it’s possible that the laid back personas of most of the cast just tend toward a more relaxing viewing environment for everyone. The main “hate” I’ve seen has been spewed mostly at Mike, which seems mostly personality driven. So, maybe the cause is contestant based rather than the lackluster season. But, it’s probably a combination.

I think it is just an AI pipedream although I would love it to be true.

There’s a new article about it in UK’s OK!. so probably not true.

I hope after Adam’s tweet the ridiculous fanwars of season 8 ends.
Season 9 is almost ending and there are a few “fans” that haven’t move on yet. So sad.

Any Adam fans who think Adam wouldn’t stick up for Kris, and especially his mother, just really have no idea what Adam the person is all about.

Laury – I unfortunately don’t think those fans who haven’t gotten yet, will ever get it. Which is too bad, and it’s their loss.

hm i thought second round is just about the corner. Adam should go to the beach or something and leave his phone at home.
No the fanwars will never end i’m afraid.

Any Adam fans who think Adam wouldn’t stick up for Kris, and especially his mother, just really have no idea what Adam the person is all about.

No truer words have been written. Now wait for the “but Kris or Matt never tweets to him..blah, blah” from the “few” crazies.

Friends don’t always have to be up each other’s behinds every second. Some guys are shy and some are not.

I

really think people are going to be surprised how well a simonless panel works out if they find the right replacement (and ditch Kara and Randy for upgrades).

I don’t think enough people will be watching Idol to be surprised. I think Simon leaving will put a big hurt ratings wise on the show. I don’t think HCjr or Ben Folds will bring many eyeballs. Shania was a standout though but not to replace Simon. Probably Kara.

Even Adam is losing patience with sparkle cows. Wow some of them are REALLY furious about this. time to get rid of these ‘fans’. hopefully he will ofend them enough so they jump at somebody else. Casey? Mike? *Adam has had enough*

Actually, because Chicago is broken into so many neighborhoods, each with its own “personality,” I don’t find it blase at all! But Lee is actually from the Northwest suburb of Mount Prospect, (a place I’ve visited frequently over the years as it’s the home of a really dear friend of mine and just 45 minutes north of my house) and, from what I’ve come to know about the town, they are CERTAINLY not going to be anything less than ecstatic about Lee’s success on Idol.

Well that’s exciting! I definitely want to see Lee go back to his old high school. He sure has come a long way.

Love the hometown visits. I’m a softee.

I don’t know if I want to see Casey’s or Mike’s more.

I don’t think enough people will be watching Idol to be surprised. I think Simon leaving will put a big hurt ratings wise on the show. I don’t think HCjr or Ben Folds will bring many eyeballs. Shania was a standout though but not to replace Simon. Probably Kara.

I think a good crop of diversified talented contestants with personalities could turn next season around. People are always going to complain about the judges no matter who they are.

I think they are going to bring a lot of ringers in the show (just like S7), declare it’s a boys year (girls year are always downers), maybee they should just make AI an all male show and then just wait and see the crazies come back and fire up the blogosphere and the ratings.

Success guaranteed

I’m probably the only person who didn’t like HCjr on the show. Ok, tuesday was fine most of the time, but on wednesday he seriously got on my nerves. I would probably rather watch the whole Gaga mediocre performance than him. I still think keeping Randy, Kara and Ellen there is a deadly weapon for the show, no matter who they replace Simon with. Ok say they get someone awesome, still you’ll have to get through the comments of those other 3 and that’s a HUGE buzzkill imo.

So I haven’t been following the season that close but is it just Crystal that has the “sob story” with Lee coming in second? That seems to me with what people have said that give both of them a leg up in getting to be top 2. And in winning.

I’m probably the only person who didn’t like HCjr on the show. Ok, tuesday was fine most of the time, but on wednesday he seriously got on my nerves.

Judee, you’re not the only one because I didn’t like him either. I think he took way too much attention away from the idols. Plus he tried way too hard to be funny … personally, I didn’t think he was so funny. Not much of a singer IMO … more style than substance.

Talking about homecoming videos, here are two really good ones. In fact, one got an award for editing.

David Archuleta Homecoming

David Cook Homecoming

Syesha’s homecoming video was obviously not as important to the producers, imo.

In regards to “ringers” I think they have them every season. The show wants to insure some level of professionalism.

ETA: I would put Lee in that category, since his two CDs are still being sold at CDBaby and he owns the copyrights on one of them, so he should have to take it down. But for some reason it’s still up. (Unless rules have changed again since Season 7 – see Cook, David “Analog Heart”.) “Slumberland” is on the label, Wuli Records, so he has no control over that CD.

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/leedewyze

So I haven’t been following the season that close but is it just Crystal that has the “sob story” with Lee coming in second? That seems to me with what people have said that give both of them a leg up in getting to be top 2. And in winning.

No Casey had the horrific motorcycle injury, and Mike had a huge backstory during Hollywood about his wife giving birth. No one this year was pushed with a Gokey type back story.

Is it true that Sir Elton is going to be a judge on AI afterall? or just rumor?

I think it is just an AI pipedream although I would love it to be true.

There’s a new article about it in UK’s OK!. so probably not true.

http://ok.co.uk/celebnews/view/21584/Elton-John-grabs-Simon-Cowell-s-American-Idol-post-/

Idol bosses have been longing to lure Sir Elton back since he rounded on Cowell and the other judges for booting off eventual ­Oscar winner Jennifer Hudson.

Executives were exultant over the ratings-boosting uproar. One of the show’s 20 producers said: “Everyone loves Sir Elton. As well as being outspoken, he has an air of gravitas as an icon of the music industry.”

Aside from the howler about the judges booting off Hudson, since when does AI have 20 producers??

tinawina:
05/09/2010 at 12:14 pm
I really hope Crystal makes the top 3. Not just because I like her, but reading that article about her hometown looking forward to her visit just made me realize how heartbroken they would be if she didn’t make it home with the full Idol treatment

Me too. “I can give you Taco Night, and Taco Night is big!” Awww. From Taco Night to national teevee. I am such a schmaltz for the hometown visits.

So I haven’t been following the season that close but is it just Crystal that has the “sob story” with Lee coming in second?

You mean Crystal and Lee have actual “sob stories” that haven’t been milked to death by the show’s 20 producers? How is that possible?

Gangreen29
Hehe oh ok I just hear people always talking about Crystals horrible life, maybe if they would have just stuck with the music I might be more inclined to know more. But the more I hear from her the more it puts me off. She is bad musically I think she just needs to have some humility I think IMHO YMMV

Talking about homecoming videos, here are two really good ones. In fact, one got an award for editing.

David Archuleta Homecoming

David Cook Homecoming

Cookie’s got it and the award was an Emmy. Loved Archie’s “Where did they all park?”

Other good ones:

Elliott Yamin’s

Kris Allen’s (which I don’t have a link for).

Lots of fans. Lots of emotions. Throw in an adorable parent or two. These homecoming visits can be really good (if you aren’t poor Syesha and about to be run over by a bus wielding a penguin song). I wasn’t even a fan of Elliott’s and I was deeply moved by his (and I still think he got the best and most loving boot video they ever made. PTB totally bused him, but they still really, really liked him)

So I haven’t been following the season that close but is it just Crystal that has the “sob story” with Lee coming in second? That seems to me with what people have said that give both of them a leg up in getting to be top 2. And in winning.

They actually haven’t played up any sob stories this year, at least not for the remaining 4. Crystal was always “single mom busker, from a small rural town. loves her daddy. got sick once early on”. Lee is “insecure paint salesman finds his voice”. Mike is “personal trainer and new dad – kid was born on semis week”. Casey is “hot country rocker and Kara cougar-bait… will he fulfill his potential?” All the sob stories we know from the internet or because they were mentioned in passing on the show. Nothing was dwelled on. Thank god.

You mean Crystal and Lee have actual “sob stories” that haven’t been milked to death by the show’s 20 producers? How is that possible?

Well I doubt the producers want to bring up Lee’s story. He beat the crap out of somebody and the cops came. That might mess up there “chosen one” plans. Lol Thug.

HOLY CRAP. Heroes was just on a commercial!!!! A golf tournament.

another twitter gate: apparently Tommy (Adam’s bass player) is now following Adam’s LA stalkers on twitter (those he called out on twitter some time ago). some fans are NOT pleased at all.

tinawina:
05/09/2010 at 12:14 pm
I really hope Crystal makes the top 3. Not just because I like her, but reading that article about her hometown looking forward to her visit just made me realize how heartbroken they would be if she didn’t make it home with the full Idol treatment.

I’m with you on this tinawina. Also, I’ve heard that Lee’s hometown has had bumper stickers and t-shirts made up with “Lee DeWyze Choice” as a play on the pronunciation of his last name. Pretty clever. (It’s been on the news here in Illinois. He’s from Mount Prospect, IL)

I still get teary watching David Cook’s homecoming footage. Thanks for posting and ‘forcing’ me to watch it again, wordnerdarchie.

Homecoming must be an incredible life experience for the top 3.

Talking about homecoming videos, here are two really good ones. In fact, one got an award for editing.

Cookie’s got it and the award was an Emmy.

I had no idea that won an Emmy, but right you are (of course).

http://mjsbigblog.com/and-the-emmy-goes-to.htm

Even better is that it shared the award with “I’m F*cking Matt Damon”!

Haha omg Lee de wise choice hahah ok that is awesome..and you know that will get him votes cuz of the cuteness..lol but I wonder how many will get it hehe

Well I doubt the producers want to bring up Lee’s story. He beat the crap out of somebody and the cops came. That might mess up there “chosen one” plans. Lol Thug.

Well that’s hardly a sob story for Lee, but it is for his victim. Holy moly. I’ve seen cryptic references to this but I don’t know the deets, guess it’s time to google it.

I thought Danny’s homecoming package was strange because they never showed his parents or any of his family. Instead, he was shown meeting up with Jamar in what looked to be a hallway? They didn’t show Adam’s parents in his homecoming package, either, if I remember right. But that little boy at the children’s theatre group asking Adam questions was adorable. Kris’s was the most emotional of the 3 homecoming package last year. It’ll be interesting to see if any one of the 3 stands out this year in terms of the emotional wallop.

LMAO so hard!! Is everyone too busy commenting on Adam’s tweets and this year’s lackluster Top 4 that no one is laughing at the Glee preview?? Aw man, that really made my day.. Gotta love that Rachel!

gangreen29:I really think people are going to be surprised how well a simonless panel works out if they find the right replacement (and ditch Kara and Randy for upgrades). Simon is not as engaging as he once was, and nothing he says comes across as shocking anymore.

Yes. Simon checked out a while ago and he’s just phoning his comments right now. It made me sick listening to him on the last show saying that Lee could win this thing (not that I don’t think he’s right). His comments were so depressing and devoided of any excitement and he was talking about the eventual winner. And what kind of an answer is that when he said that he didn’t watch the show afterwards because he doesn’t like seeing himself on TV. Talk about being a lousy judge with an inflated ego.

I’ll be glad when he’ll be gone.

They didn’t show Adam’s parents in his homecoming package, either, if I remember right.

i think they did. and his brother too.

Yeah Adams mom was shown in the car when he was at the highschool and his famiily was in the back of the limo towards the end. They just never showed them interacting like they have with others.

undercooked

The Matt Giraud performance on May 15 is at a new AT&T store in La Canada, 894 Foothill Blvd. It will be inside the store from 1-3PM, and it sounds like the main concert will be from 1-2 since the store originally posted that time, and that the next hour will be a meet and greet.

Yes, I remember Adam’s parent’s in the car with him at the stadium.

Regarding Glee: I checked out of that show a right after the Madonna episode. Boring. And Lea Michele needs a better show. She is fantastic.

Cookie’s got it and the award was an Emmy. Loved Archie’s “Where did they all park?”

Other good ones:

Elliott Yamin’s

All three of these are my very favorites Loved, loved them both for the David’s, but oh man Elliott’s still turns me into a mess.

After reading that LA Times story on Crystal, it sounds like this could be a very touching and emotional homecoming for her if she makes it to the top 3. I haven’t voted yet this season, but I just might have to this week.

ETA: Yes, Elliott’s homecoming stands out in my memory too. In fact, his mother broke her hip that weekend in the parking lot of one of the radio stations where he did an interview. She described it as taking a tumble but it turned out to be more serious than that. I don’t even think she lived quite 2 years after his homecoming. I’m sure she is missed by many. What a special lady she was.

Dave’s homecoming almost had me in tears. Archie’s homecoming was emotional as well.

no one is laughing at the Glee preview?? Aw man, that really made my day.. Gotta love that Rachel!

HAHA, that’s funny, sounded like AI audition round…

oh, ok…I didn’t remember seeing them in the car with Adam in the footage…

Sir Elton John and American Idol, a match made only in my dreams. I don’t think for a second he would come to this show. I think he’s working on a another Broadway show. Billy Elliot was fantastic. If, If they were fortunate to get him, people would be saying Simon who. The man is an icon, fantastic singer, with a lot of hit songs. My favorites, Sorry seems to be the hardest word, Levon, Madman across the water, Tiny dancer and Candle in the wind. I love, love Elton John.

girlygirl…I can’t remember what I had for breakfast this morning! Why I remember Adam’s homecoming I don’t know. It’s embarrassing, actually, what I do remember about Adam!

Lee got the cops called on him? LMAO

oh, ok…I didn’t remember seeing them in the car with Adam in the footage…

Prolly because they just showed briefly that Adam’s Mom and brother were there, but didn’t show any interaction between them, heartwarming or otherwise. Not exactly memorable.

will:
05/09/2010 at 2:11 pm

Well I doubt the producers want to bring up Lee’s story. He beat the crap out of somebody and the cops came. That might mess up there “chosen one” plans. Lol Thug.

Well that’s hardly a sob story for Lee, but it is for his victim. Holy moly. I’ve seen cryptic references to this but I don’t know the deets, guess it’s time to google it.

I believe the tragic part of Lee’s life is the death of his grandma, to whom he was apparently close, at the hands of his uncle. I feel quite grotty for passing this along, but just to give the source:

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/american-idol/american-idol-lee-dewyzes-unto-35374.aspx

And also to say there really is no easy road for any of us. I respect all of them for doing what they do, despite the difficulties.

They somehow need to try and make the homecomings “equal”. It was kinda demoralizing when Kris had an amphitheater which held over 20K people, as opposed to the high school football field for Adam. The h.s. and middle school students were the bulk of the people filling the stands. I bet the majority of them weren’t even interested. I’m sure real fans would have shown up for Adam from around so. CA. if it was in a different location/venue.

Lee got the cops called on him? LMAO

I could find absolutely no info online about that. I even scoured VFTW, and you know they would have been all over it. The only possible reference I found is him admitting he was kicked out of high school, and saying “That’s not who I am now.”

So as far as I’m concerned, it’s rumor, unless someone has a link with the facts.

hope it’s ok to post this…mj you can delete if you want

Since we’re talking about homecomings…remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08ALTkf2Xpc

I think Lee’s story has been about “redemption”. I find it compelling. He has said he messed up and went to an alternative school. Now every week he’s still beating himself up. He still feels he’s “unworthy”. I think this is part of his appeal. He’s never been portrayed as an angel without a troublesome past, but as someone still trying to forgive himself.

They somehow need to try and make the homecomings “equal”. It was kinda demoralizing when Kris had an amphitheater which held over 20K people, as opposed to the high school football field for Adam. The h.s. and middle school students were the bulk of the people filling the stands. I bet the majority of them weren’t even interested. I’m sure real fans would have shown up for Adam from around so. CA. if it was in a different location/venue.

I find that the homecoming videos give a good idea of who producers want to win. The contestant with the most heart warming homecoming will win.

All three of these are my very favorites Loved, loved them both for the David’s, but oh man Elliott’s still turns me into a mess.

Elliott’s homecoming is my absolute favorite. Can’t imagine anything ever topping it.

So as far as I’m concerned, it’s rumor, unless someone has a link with the facts.

There is a scan of a newspaper article that details the incident. So, yeah, the story is true.

http://prospect.highschoolmedia.org/pdfs/LeeD1.jpg

http://prospect.highschoolmedia.org/pdfs/LeeD2.jpg

That girl had her moment in the spotlight, she will never be forgotten by Adam, as the his first stage jumper.

I still get teary watching David Cook’s homecoming footage.

Me too. I think David had the best homecoming video. He was so overwhelmed with all the love he received.

I find that the homecoming videos gives a good idea of who the producers want to win. The contestant with the most heart warming homecoming will win

They really should fire who did the videos last year if that is the case. I think Kris’ video was the most heart warming last year. He was the only one seen interacting with his family, I mean who couldn’t get teary see his dad crying. Neither Danny nor Adam had any family stuff shown. But everyone agrees that TPTB wanted them as the finale 2. They even gave Danny all that A++ stuff afterr dream on.

Oh my God….I hate homecoming videos. So fake and so transparent. 95% of the peeps coming out to these things could give a damn about the AI contestant…and most of the people filling the shopping centers and stadiums are the same type of peeps that line up to salute a sports team when they win the world series or super bowl…its just the “cool” thing to do.

I’m as cynical as hell in some things and these homecoming visits just add to that cynicism. Now, a visit to a person or two who shaped your life is nice….but hundreds of strangers saluting you for doing nothing more than appearing on a reality TV show is just a bit much. And, the larger and more cosmopolitan the hometown the more idiotic these ventures “home” become. I hate contrived pathos…

Another review of Adam’s album from the UK. (it’s a negative review)

http://www.themusicfix.co.uk/content.php?contentid=10165

There is a scan of a newspaper article that details the incident. So, yeah, the story is true.

http://prospect.highschoolmedia.org/pdfs/LeeD1.jpg

http://prospect.highschoolmedia.org/pdfs/LeeD2.jpg

Thanks for the links MJ. Unfortunately I can’t get those scans to enlarge enough to be legible in Firefox, and they won’t load at all in IE, so I’m still in the dark. Drat.

Tess, Arkansas has always been very supportive of Kris and his wife. When the tour came around to AR, there were at least half a dozen huge articles just about Kris. From what I heard, Kris got a loud and grand reception that lasted many minutes. The biggest and loudest reception than anyone else got during the entire tour. Someone in Arkansas even gave Kris’s wife her first acting part (I believe she is the star?).

Neither Danny nor Adam had any family stuff shown.

I believe they did show Adam’s mother crying. I just don’t think people recognized her in the video.

You can see her at the mark with about 2:11 left on this video (per MJs thread last year). She’s crying and wiping her eyes.
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/5066261/13460116

Thanks for the review of FYE. That was one of the best written reviews of an Idol album I’ve ever read.

Arkansas has always been very supportive of Kris and his wife.

Not supportive enough to buy his album though.

Arkansas population: 2,889,450

Another review of Adam’s album from the UK. (it’s a negative review)

http://www.themusicfix.co.uk/content.php?contentid=10165

This is actually an older review. It came out a few days ago. He’s actually getting alot more positive reviews than negative ones. I’m hoping next weeks UK chart will be better than this week, given his alot of his post-Ross show bounce wasn’t included in the chart this week.

KrisAllen

#Happy mothers day to all the moms especially @allen_kimberly. And @adamlambert likewise. 12 minutes ago via Echofon

Thanks for the review of FYE. That was one of the best written reviews of an Idol album I’ve ever read.

Hmmm. I thought it was atrocious drivel. To each his own.

Unfortunately I can’t get those scans to enlarge enough to be legible in Firefox, and they won’t load at all in IE, so I’m still in the dark. Drat.

Will, I use FF, and all I have to do is click on the scan and then it enlarges itself. I don’t know why it doesn’t work for you.

wordnerdarchie silly me, I was trying to enlarge it manually. Thanks for the tip.

The review of FYE was strange to me. More like an attack on Adam. If you read the comments that follow below the review, the posters think so too.

jpfan:

Thanks for the review of FYE. That was one of the best written reviews of an Idol album I’ve ever read.

That comment really made me LOL.

Lea Michele > Miley Cyrus.

At least Lea sounds like a girl. Miley sounds like a guy just hitting puberty.

Why can’t they keep the review a bit shorter? it was equally painfull for me to get through the whole thing as it was for the reviewer to get through the album. well i skipped parts. Nobody in the UK who doesn’t already know him and isn’t REALLY interested in him is gonna read this whole thing. Even i couldn’t. too exhausting. EDITOR please!

The review of FYE was strange to me. More like an attack on Adam. If you read the comments that follow below the review, the posters think so too.

You know, it’s OK not to like his album or him. it was badly written though.

Thanks for the review of FYE. That was one of the best written reviews of an Idol album I’ve ever read.

Hmmm. I thought it was atrocious drivel. To each his own.

Yeah, I just didn’t really get it. It seemed like the author was so caught up in his own “prose” that there really wasn’t any meaning to what he was saying. I wouldn’t expect all reviews of any album, and particularly an Idol release, to be positive. Not everyone is going to like every album that’s released. But, unless I was misunderstanding, this guy didn’t even seem to get that Adam is openly gay. Not once did he mention the quality (or lack thereof if that’s how he felt) of Adam’s vocals, and few songs were even dissected. It was just weird. Well, happily, most of the reviews have been positive. This guy didn’t really seem impressed by anyone he mentioned in the article (didn’t he also put down Gaga? I’m not going to waste time going back to read it, but that was the impression I was left with), so maybe he just hates all pop, or maybe he’s just a typical ass who no one takes seriously when they read his reviews, anyway.

Another review of Adam’s album from the UK. (it’s a negative review)

http://www.themusicfix.co.uk/content.php?contentid=10165

Wasn’t this webpage a place anyone can post a review? Like not a real newspaper? Or am I mixing them up…?

You know, it’s OK not to like his album or him.

I agree 100%. You need to read the good with the bad to get a true sense how well the reviews are overall IMO.

Saga – I think it’s a blog but not positive. I know he’s gotten good reviews from alot of newpapers and magazines over in the UK.

I’m all for people having opinions I have no problem with people not likeing the album but dude did you go to school…that was so hard to read it made me lol

The comments were pretty interesting I recomend ready them one of the few times I have ever done that lol

these homecoming visits just add to that cynicism

I was pretty cynical about these until I visited Hyannis on Cape cod a few weeks ago. Big signs for Siobhan and a lot of radio coverage about American Idol viewing events in bars and donations to Siobhan’s “charity” (I get the idea the Idols choose one early). The Cape is pretty sophisticated, so it surprised me. I think she would have received a big and sincere welcome home had she made the top three.

Ayla Brown also did a lot of Boston radio post-Idol, judging contests and such, though I didn’t see any welcoming signs in her home town when she got the boot. (Then again, she went to a private school out of town.)

I think the response is sincere in many places. The saddist was Kat McPhee’s trip home, where she was welcomed by a half-empty gymnasium. Very large metropolitan areas are not the best place of origin and LA must be the worst. Jaded.

It’s an UK music site, doesn’t seem very big tough. I am waiting for the NME.com review, I like what they say generally.

The comments were pretty interesting I recomend ready them one of the few times I have ever done that lol

I love how everyone who posted in the comments has less than 10 total posts.
Clearly the same wackos who go from review to review to bash a negative review.

The crappy reputation of AI fans is now being exported to the UK, very cool.

ETA: for anyone ever interested in the X factor, don’t watch the Youtube video linked, you won’t be as excited after that.

A review is a review is a review…opinion and nothing more, no matter who writes it or where it gets published/posted.

Looking at this guy’s other reviews – and he’s done alot on that site, which seems to be somewhere where ordinary music listeners can have their say – I’m surprised that he actually reviewed Adam’s album, but not at all shocked that he didn’t like it.

It’s never pleasant reading when someone doesn’t like the work of your fav. But I have never understood the need of fans – and AI fans, of all Idols, but certainly some more than others, are really devoted to this – of commenting en masse on the comments pages of people who are just expressing an opinion and don’t like the person you do or the music they produce. It ends up making the fans look silly, IMO.

Mind you – it’s not just AI fans. It’s anyone who feels that their ‘idol’ needs to be defended from the wicked world out there! :lol

PS – the review was definitely over wordy and never seemed to get to its point!

That review of FYE is bloody incoherent. But if I translated it properly, I think he managed to get through the entire review without once mentioning Adam’s voice. Which is kind of like reviewing “Iron Man” and never mentioning Robert Downey Jr.

According to that newspaper article, Lee and another student were fighting each other for five minutes until someone in the group of 50 students standing around watching yelled “Cops!” That’s hardly the same as “He beat the crap out of somebody and the cops came,” which makes him sound like a vicious psycho.

Valentin432
Actually if you read the comments ther are quite a few that are brits and none of them are like “omg u bashed my fav I’m gonna bash you” most were about the poor writing and actual lack of reviewing the album besides a few lines. But anyway YMMV

I’m no fan of Adam’s album, but why anybody would care what that incoherent fool had to say baffles me. If the first sentence in your “music review” is unintelligible, then your opinion is worthless as far as I’m concerned. Kinda like having a typo on your resume.

Re Lee DeWyze’s “redemption story,” have we really been made privy to it via the show? I’ve read a bit about it on The Internets, but I don’t recall any mention of it on the broadcasts each week. To me it’s just not a big deal. He was a kid. Casey’s two DUI’s are similarly irrelevant to me, since he was also a kid when it happened. I don’t think TPTB really want to “go there” with either one of them. Otherwise, no doubt, they already would have.

Another review of Adam’s album from the UK. (it’s a negative review)

http://www.themusicfix.co.uk/content.php?contentid=10165

I can accept a negative review, but this was a poorly written, disorgnized attack on Adam, his possible gayness, his name, the length of the album (for Heaven’s sake), and the fact that he wants to entertain his audience, with no reference to his actual singing.

The people making the comments were articulate, at least, and knew what they were talking about.

Well, not gonna read that review cause it’s too late and it sounds tedious- but i must say it always makes me happy when a bad Adam review is written poorly… *snicker*

Oh come on! It’s only human to want EVERYONE to appreciate what you appreciate!
But then, you also want to feel unique and not like what everyone else is liking….. hmmmmmm……. I really need to go to sleep…

Thanks for the review of FYE. That was one of the best written reviews of an Idol album I’ve ever read.
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OMG!! That was one of the hardest reads I've EVER tried to get through! Seriously, the guy needs to invest in an editor. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but dude….spit it out already in some kind of form that doesn't make my head hurt. If this was one of the BEST you've read, God help me, I don't ever want to read the worst. lol

Sorry…..obvious fail on the quoting and edit won’t let me fix. Guess I’m as bad as that author of the review!!

Well, it’s always tough to enjoy a negative review of an album you like but I thought the reviewer actually came up with an entertaining read. Obviously, people can have different opinions. I didn’t realize the English version of FYE had 18 songs. Also forgot that Muse had a song on the album along with Pink and Gaga.

Actually if you read the comments ther are quite a few that are brits and none of them are like “omg u bashed my fav I’m gonna bash you” most were about the poor writing and actual lack of reviewing the album besides a few lines.

Whether from Brits or not, most of the comments were clearly from huge Adam fans, complaining that the review did not appreciate the abilities of their fav.

You know, not everyone is blown away by the awesome, uniqueness of his voice. Indeed one or two may feel that there are several recent pop stars from the UK who have had very similar voices. Added to that, the qualities that Adam’s voice does have do not always shine truely through the album production and, even if they did, not everyone likes that kind of voice.

There was one comment stating that they might buy the album, because of the crapitude of the author’s written style: which is in itself weird to me. I’d never buy an album simply because the writer of a review lacked writing skills. Slightly suspicious, but never mind.

It really doesn’t matter one way or the other – and this is not a phenomenon reserved to Adam fans – though they are certainly the most insistent of the currently active Idol fans on the net – or indeed to Idol fans. But it clearly is a gathering of fans out to express their disapproval at this poor, somewhat verbally challenged, person, because he/she deigned to dislike the rawkgawd’s album.

I think this kind of stuff is nuts when I see it with regards to Cook too, so it’s not just Adam, but thankfully, the Cook defenders have become a bit less trigger happy in their internet reponses over the two years and rarely get completely OTT in the piling on of defenders. :lol

I think this kind of stuff is nuts when I see it with regards to Cook too, so it’s not just Adam, but thankfully, the Cook defenders have become a bit less trigger happy in their internet reponses over the two years and rarely get completely OTT in the piling on of defenders. :lol

Yep, we’ve been trained. Now if we could just do something about our arguments on the fan boards regarding Cook’s hair, tummeh or tan, we’d be getting somewhere as a fandom. lol

I’m reserving judgement on the Cook fan vehemence until the next album comes out. I read the Comments that came out when he didn’t get the best new artist Grammy nomination, lol. It’s good to have passionate fans!

Any commenters that complain about “actually reviewing the album” always makes me laugh. That means you weren’t 100% objective and subjectively gave your opinion which I don’t agree with even though that’s what a review is. Ditto for saying you’ll spend $ to buy an album because you don’t like someone’s writing style. Most regular folks just wouldn’t bother continuing to read the damn review.

I think fans should ease up on reviewers because they have very little influence on music purchases. But usually the real OTT crazies can’t handle even the slightest criticism of their demigod. That’s not limited to any one person off Idol. That’s across the board insanity. I think they’re afraid the whole house of cards will collapse since the careers built off Idol are so inorganic. Or they’re just the fanatics that fan is short for.

Has any music critic ever criticized the “thank you” portion on the inner sleeve?

Eh, about the music review, didn’t it come out last week? There have been numerous that have come out since that have been very positive. Freaks me out a bit that alot of the positive reviews like aftermath though.

Yeah, that ‘review’ was useless. Really, what was the point of it? What was all that stuff into real estate agents, Billy Bob’s and people not admitting they’re gay?(which, seriously?) have to do with the music? Which I gathered he liked Soaked? Maybe he liked Music Again? I can’t tell, because he was too busy trying to be clever…and failing, miserably Negative reviews are fine and dandy. But this was just a big pile of WTF and why even bother? So moving on forever from it.

Glad that Adam stood up for Kris, though not surprised and not that it will matter.

I’m looking forward to seeing Lee in Mount Prospect. I’m sure they’ll go crazy for him, and I’m glad to see someone from around one of my hometowns and from the Midwest in the finals. Which speaking of, yeah, I think Crystal’s home visit will be really sweet and I do like that the town will get some money out of it. It really is needed in places like that, for sure. I’m just happy that with Crystal and Lee being most probably our final two, that we’re going to get someone a little more Northern. Now if we could actually get a Left Coaster to win or a Northeasterner…that would be cool. I mean it’s not fair that we get shut out so much, when so many of the winners are more from the South. Forget fanwars, I’m all for region wars!!1!1!

Yeah Adams mom was shown in the car when he was at the highschool and his famiily was in the back of the limo towards the end. They just never showed them interacting like they have with others.

Didn’t the news show Adam visited in the a.m. also surprise him with his Mom’s appearance and a sweet sit-down chat with the two of them? I know that happened, and I thought it happened on the hometown visit.

Cook’s is the best for me, hands down, but for some reason I do also recall Elliot’s and how tear-inducing it was. It must have been fantastic, seeing how his was among the years that I only watched AI from the Top 2 or 3 up.

Has any music critic ever criticized the “thank you” portion on the inner sleeve?

That about sums it up for me right there.

tls62:

Sorry…..obvious fail on the quoting and edit won’t let me fix. Guess I’m as bad as that author of the review!!

tls62: You can manually type the words to someone’s post in the beginning and end instead of clicking on b-quote and close tags.

I read the Comments that came out when he didn’t get the best new artist Grammy nomination, lol.

Yeah – that was pretty crazy, but I don’t think (or at least I’m hoping!) that it spilt too far outside of the boards.

As for the new album, I absolutely reserve the right to come on this site and lambast anyone who makes Nickleback comparisons, but do solemnly vow not to go around spamming negative reviews on review sites :lol

But ITA – we’ll see whether the Cook fan calm is temporary or just resting then.

Hey – maybe the reviews will all be great and we won’t get to find out :lol

Wordnerdarchie – we have to keep the hair debate as a safety valve IMO – keeps the nuttiness under control…

Well, I am glad that some of you read the review and didn’t think it made sense. I read it and didn’t understand..:( ………I was afraid to say that because I think JPFAN is a real smart cookie that comments here!
Anyway, everyone is entitled to his or her opinion…..I just thought the writing was a bit convoluted! Heh

Another review of Adam’s album from the UK. (it’s a negative review)

http://www.themusicfix.co.uk/content.php?contentid=10165

Wasn’t this webpage a place anyone can post a review? Like not a real newspaper? Or am I mixing them up…?

Yeah, I read it somewhere that the reviewer’s day job is some kind of office assistant…should he at least be able to write to be an assistant?

That review was from a few days ago. Didn’t we already discuss it here? Or was that on another board? I didn’t even have to read it because it was the same thing people were saying the other day, he was incoherent, complaining about the liner notes and length of the album, etc. Anyhoo- one bad review out of how many? Most of FYE’s UK reviews have been fantastic! And since he seems so passionate in his hate, I think that is better than a big ole “meh”, lol.

That surprise from his mom was on the news but ended up not being put into his hometown package shown on results night.

I don’t remember Cook’s or Archies hometown visits, but these moments always stuck out to me (I’m skipping Adam because well, no explanation necessary:

Best homecoming – Elliot, hands down
Emotional performance – Fantasia, Summertime
Winning moment-David Cook

I had tears for all three, just emotionally touching.

Not really watching this year, but from what I read here, I think Crystal’s will be one to remember.

Happy mothers day to all of the mothers here. Mediabase apparently was late updating today.

Pop
18 24 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 3000 3492 -492 16.905
84 96 KRIS ALLEN Heartless 48 65 -17 0.356
151 125 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Cowboy Casanova 23 13 +10 0.128
524 129 ADAM LAMBERT If I Had You 20 1 +19 0.068
285 202 BLAKE LEWIS Heartbreak On Vinyl 7 4 +3 0.016

Hot AC
4 4 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 3587 3451 +136 19.714
5 5 DAUGHTRY Life After You 3277 3386 -109 16.347
7 8 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dyin… 2858 3033 -175 14.083
12 12 KELLY CLARKSON All I Ever Wanted 2185 2071 +114 10.304

AC
4 3 KELLY CLARKSON Already Gone 1951 1898 +53 15.616
8 8 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dyin… 885 769 +116 7.222
11 11 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 510 445 +65 5.978
12 12 DAUGHTRY Life After You 442 428 +14 3.119
27 27 WILL YOUNG Leave Right Now 78 78 0 0.128
46 32 BROOKE WHITE Change 50 23 +27 0.03

Country
23 23 DANNY GOKEY My Best Days Are Ahe… 1483 1457 +26 9.441
33 26 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Undo It 1077 620 +457 8.723
36 37 BUCKY COVINGTON A Father’s Love (The… 637 598 +39 3.158
49 46 KELLIE PICKLER Makin’ Me Fall In Lo… 411 365 +46 1.744

Active Rock
37 35 WE ARE THE FALLEN Bury Me Alive 272 241 +31 0.402

Urban AC
42 27 FANTASIA Bittersweet 245 108 +137 2.847

Christian AC
25 26 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dyin… 279 289 -10 1.315
33 38 PHIL STACEY Some Kind Of Love 98 108 -10 0.587

Crap….was his review of FYE bad? I need the Cliff Notes because I really don’t know what the hell he was trying to say.

@krisallen: Happy mothers day to all the moms especially @allen_kimberly. And @adamlambert likewise.

lol. Sounds like Adam’s his mom

Another review of Adam’s album from the UK. (it’s a negative review)

http://www.themusicfix.co.uk/content.php?contentid=10165

Funny, I read this review when it came out a few days ago and thought it was OK. 5/10.

Since the reviewer is someone who likes indie rock and disdains Idol and Fuller, I think the fact he liked anything on this album is astounding.

But I am puzzled that he doesn’t realize the Adam is openly gay. Clearly when he wrote, “I’ve listened to his album. Now you want research on top?” He meant it. Otherwise how could he have written this gem:

“The second obstacle is unavoidable. No getting around it, Adam Lambert is a bit gay. Now, I could give a flying one about what Mr Lambert gets up to when he gets the Barry White out but it seems to be a subject of some conjecture for people who surf the internet trying to find out if newly famous people who wear eyeliner and don’t make it easy by wearing blue jeans and checked shirts might be Homer-Sexyuls! I don’t know whether he is or not. Care less and all that. All I will say is, if he’s not, he bloody well should be. If I had those cheek bones and could throw Prince circa ’86 poses like our Ad can, I’d turn gay in an instant. But that’s just me. We move on.”

So, I bit… I didn’t want to but I’m home sick and bored, so I read that review. To me, once you cut through the extraneous drivel (and he complains that FYE goes on and on, but nowhere fast heh) I sort of see what he’s saying at times. If I interpreted correctly, and there’s no guarantee that I did, his main complaint is that it’s too hard to find Adam “behind the curtain,” and as such, it’s a disappointing effort. I see where he’s coming from. Reading between the lines (and skipping over every 3 or so words lol) I also sense a disdain for the likes of AI.

That said, the author does lose most of his already dubious credibility when he asserts that Adam is being coy about his sexuality and that Katy Perry appears on the album, among other crazy nonsense.

His comments on the liner notes, to me, were lolz.

Has any music critic ever criticized the “thank you” portion on the inner sleeve?

I seem to recall somebody at EW took a whack at Archie for his very long “thank you” on the inner sleeve. I don’t know if it was a music critic, though.

ETA: Found it. http://popwatch.ew.com/2008/10/31/david-archuleta-3/

Didn’t the news show Adam visited in the a.m. also surprise him with his Mom’s appearance and a sweet sit-down chat with the two of them? I know that happened, and I thought it happened on the hometown visit.

There were some really nice moments that were shown on the local news and some more that eventually wound up on youtube, but they didn’t make it into the Homecoming package that ran on the show. It was a very nice piece, but devoid of that warm and fuzzy family stuff that you usually get.

You really make me wonder if I understood this thing properly because I thought the points he was criticizing were very clear: over produced, too many tracks (many that could have been trashed), no artistic vision and bloated with too many different styles of music. I think the main complaint is that it doesn’t sound like the result of an artistic process but more like a record that the big 19 corporation enginered with Adam at one end and the long line of producers/writers at the other.

I mean it’s not the first time I read that type of criticism for idol artists far from it. I think he had a very negative bias before listening to it and you could sense that in his review, also it’s pretty clear that he’s not a professional at this.

ITA elliot’s homecoming definetly wins

I’ve been out all day; happy mothers day!

I seem to recall somebody at EW took a whack at Archie for his very long “thank you” on the inner sleeve. I don’t know if it was a music critic, though.

I have a recollection that it may or may not have been, but that it was written as an entirely separate article.

As far as that Adam review goes… whether or not I actually agreed with a single word the guy said (on the whole, I think he’s being far too harsh), the writing itself was actually an amusing little journey. Requires patience from the reader (and a lot of it!), but that’s not the worst thing in the world.

Okay, I do have to comment, when the reviewer was pointing out that fellow reality show person Will Young came out three years ago and it was fine! was where I think I laughed out loud. Yes, because Adam should really just admit he’s gay and not be so is he/isn’t he.

snicker.

Okay, I do have to comment, when the reviewer was pointing out that fellow reality show person Will Young came out three years ago and it was fine! was where I think I laughed out loud. Yes, because Adam should really just admit he’s gay and not be so is he/isn’t he.

Kind of missed the point on that one, though. I don’t think he gave a flying leap whether Adam as openly out or not, nor was he saying Adam was being coy about it. It doesn’t matter to him, because he was basically saying that it wasn’t really “shocking” or “controversial” or gave the artist or the album any kind of credit either way.

Well, Adam’s the first album I’ve bought in years, but if I were a reviewer my reaction wouldn’t have been positive due to the emphasis on a lot of things, except his voice. I by far prefer his live performances over his album.
I’ve gotten used to the album and like it now, but that certainly wasn’t instantaneous. I think Sleepwalker was one I liked immediately and I’m one of the few that actually like TFM (also upon 1st listening). DTRH is the third one I liked.

Judee:
05/09/2010 at 1:05 pm
I think Adam’s twitter account should be managed by his team. that’s all.

I think Kris’ twitter account should be managed by his team.

Kind of missed the point on that one, though. I don’t think he gave a flying leap whether Adam as openly out or not, nor was he saying Adam was being coy about it. It doesn’t matter to him, because he was basically saying that it wasn’t really “shocking” or “controversial” or gave the artist or the album any kind of credit either way.

I don’t think I missed the point, because this reviewer was basically saying that was the controversy that Adam was trying to generate, i.e. is he/isn’t he? and so while that might matter to Billy Bob’s in Iowa who will think Adam is the devil because of it, it’s not a big deal elsewhere. So Adam’s version/idea of controversy is weak sauce. But I don’t think that is the wildness that Adam is referring to, because he’s openly gay. There is not ‘is he/isn’t he’ that is coy and part of any controversy he is presumably trying to generate.

ETA: though the writing of the review does make it very hard to me to know what the actual frack he was trying to say. He needs an editor.

I didn’t miss the point, because this reviewer was basically saying that was the controversy that Adam was trying to generate, i.e. is he/isn’t he? and so while that might matter to Billy Bob’s in Iowa who will think Adam is the devil because of it, it’s not a big deal elsewhere. So Adam’s version/idea of controversy is weak sauce. But I don’t think that is the wildness that Adam is referring to, because that isn’t ‘wild’ to Adam, and he presumes, the audience.

I didn’t read it as a “is he/isn’t he?”, but “oh, gay is so controversial!”. Either way (at least in his mind), that’s getting played up, and point can be made regardless of whether Adam is out or not.

I think Adam’s twitter account should be managed by his team. that’s all.

NO NO NO NO NO!!! I like that he’s not PC all the frigging time!! I love that he “bitch slaps” his crazy, crazy fans when they need it! I love that he misspells everything!!!

Judee:
05/09/2010 at 1:05 pm
I think Adam’s twitter account should be managed by his team. that’s all.

I think Kris’ twitter account should be managed by his team.

I have no problem with this. But I think some of you will miss the “pee”, “middle aged women can’t dance”, “gambling” etc. dry humor tweets…:) I kid, I kid…not really

I think Adam’s twitter account should be managed by his team. that’s all.

I think Kris’ twitter account should be managed by his team.

I think all of Twitter should be smoted and have an exorcism performed on it.

I ddont remeber seeing this sorry if it has been posted before but
This is an acoustic WWFM with just Monte from a german radio show
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQrXZrbi3Sc0&v=QrXZrbi3Sc0&gl=US

For those that are interested the 5/13 & 5/18 QVC shows will not air per an email I received from the company. The next airing will be on 5/25 at 10 pm EST. They did not say who would guest but I believe Danny was already scheduled for that day.

I ddont remeber seeing this sorry if it has been posted before but
This is an acoustic WWFM with just Monte from a german radio show

Smeggs…that was beautiful! Thanks for posting it.

tls62:
05/09/2010 at 5:20 pm
Crap….was his review of FYE bad? I need the Cliff Notes because I really don’t know what the hell he was trying to say.

haha
I read it a few days ago when it was linked by someone on this site. It’s a horribly written album review. I didn’t give it a second thought- there have been too many other well-written reviews out there from reputable music resources in the UK. The other reviews have been mostly positive…and readable.

ETA: though the writing of the review does make it very hard to me to know what the actual frack he was trying to say. He needs an editor.

ITA.

think Adam’s twitter account should be managed by his team. that’s all.

I think Kris’ twitter account should be managed by his team.

I think all of Twitter should be smoted and have an exorcism performed on it.

I think David Cook w/David Archuleta should manage all of the idols’ twitter accounts. *snerk*

certain1:
05/09/2010 at 6:01 pm
For those that are interested the 5/13 & 5/18 QVC shows will not air per an email I received from the company. The next airing will be on 5/25 at 10 pm EST. They did not say who would guest but I believe Danny was already scheduled for that day.

Maybe all those uncoordinated, middle-aged women who spend big bucks on albums that are pushed on QVC called in to complain. Maybe they were offended. LOL jkjk!

certain1

why wouldn’t those shows air?

I think David Cook w/David Archuleta should manage all of the idols’ twitter accounts. *snerk*

Ummm…David Archuleta?? Didn’t he have a really serious “gate” recently that he had to talk his way out of too?? LOL..they’ll all prolly have one sooner or later. What can you do? Makes em more real, I guess.

girlygirl

I sent an email to QVC when I no longer saw the shows listed on the Program Guide and that was the response they sent back to me.

Was Kris scheduled for one of the cancelled dates??

Ummm…David Archuleta?? Didn’t he have a really serious “gate” recently that he had to talk his way out of too?? LOL..they’ll all prolly have one sooner or later. What can you do? Makes em more real, I guess.

Awww, the ole “someofmybestfriendsaregaygate“. Seems like it was just yesterday……

CindyM

Yeah, but so was Danny — Danny on 5/13 and Kris on 5/18 I think. Maybe their management canceled the dates?

smeggingnuts:
05/09/2010 at 5:58 pm
I ddont remeber seeing this sorry if it has been posted before but
This is an acoustic WWFM with just Monte from a german radio show

That was beautiful. Thanks for posting. He can sing it a million different ways and I always love it.

twitter is the devil but at the same time, people are too fking sensitive. at every party/club ive been to, most (white) people cant dance. its especially true of those over 35. trust me, if i could stop me friend Jos from dancing, I would.

speaking of concert scams, can someone arrest the owner of tickemaster? those freakin fees are obnoxious. you can buy a concert ticket for $20 and pay just as much in service fees. wtf.

oh, and where can i put in my vote for Connick Jr. as the next AI judge? his perfectly timed insults provided much needed zing in the normally boring results show.

i-tunes

Singles (top 1000)
5. Alejandro – Lady GaGa
11. Total Eclipse of the Heart (Glee Cast Version) [feat. Jonathan Groff] – Glee Cast
15. Telephone – Lady GaGa & Beyoncé
30. Whataya Want from Me – Adam Lambert
40. Bad Romance – Lady GaGa
46. Run Joey Run (Glee Cast Version) [feat. Jonathan Groff] – Glee Cast
54. Ice Ice Baby (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
55. Poker Face – Lady GaGa
69. Just Dance – Lady GaGa & Colby O’Donis
73. Undo It – Carrie Underwood
74. Live Like We’re Dying – Kris Allen
83. Paparazzi – Lady GaGa
90. Physical (Glee Cast Version) [feat. Olivia Newton-John] – Glee Cast
91. U Can’t Touch This (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
101. Temporary Home – Carrie Underwood
113. Life After You – Daughtry
143. Like a Prayer (feat. Jonathan Groff) – Glee Cast
145. Cowboy Casanova – Carrie Underwood
160. Telephone (feat. Beyoncé) – Lady GaGa
173. Fire (Glee Cast Version) [feat. Kristin Chenoweth] – Glee Cast
175. Beautiful (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
176. All I Ever Wanted – Kelly Clarkson
210. One Less Bell to Answer / A House Is Not a Home (Glee Cast Version) [feat. Kristin Chenoweth] – Glee Cast
212. Don’t Stop Believin’ (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
229. Gives You Hell (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
231. Already Gone – Kelly Clarkson
232. LoveGame – Lady GaGa
235. Bad Romance – Lady GaGa
270. Telephone (feat. Beyoncé) – Lady GaGa
277. Terrified (Duet with Zachary Levi) – Katharine McPhee
283. Don’t Stop Believin’ (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
311. A House Is Not a Home (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
318. Before He Cheats – Carrie Underwood
327. Hello (Glee Cast Version feat. Jonathan Groff) – Glee Cast
337. Borderline / Open Your Heart – Glee Cast
368. All-American Girl – Carrie Underwood
370. No Surprise – Daughtry
383. Like a Virgin (feat. Jonathan Groff) – Glee Cast
392. Halo / Walking On Sunshine (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
451. My Life Would Suck Without You – Kelly Clarkson
459. 4 Minutes – Glee Cast
483. My Best Days Are Ahead of Me – Danny Gokey
491. Defying Gravity (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
518. Best Days of Your Life – Kellie Pickler
530. Battlefield – Jordin Sparks
540. The Way You Look Tonight – Frank Sinatra
573. Monster – Lady GaGa
581. Hello Goodbye (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
589. It’s My Life / Confessions, Pt. II (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
625. Home (Glee Cast Version) [feat. Kristin Chenoweth] – Glee Cast
634. Jesus, Take the Wheel – Carrie Underwood
669. Don’t Rain On My Parade (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
673. Somebody to Love (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
679. Hello, I Love You (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
688. Last Name – Carrie Underwood
714. Paparazzi – Lady GaGa
731. Breakaway – Kelly Clarkson
753. Home – Daughtry
759. Speechless – Lady GaGa
767. Poker Face – Lady GaGa
811. Didn’t You Know How Much I Loved You – Kellie Pickler
825. Sweet Caroline (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
846. For Your Entertainment – Adam Lambert
856. Boys Boys Boys – Lady GaGa
882. Since U Been Gone – Kelly Clarkson
884. Lean On Me (Glee Cast Version) – Glee Cast
912. Just a Dream – Carrie Underwood
925. No Air – Jordin Sparks & Chris Brown
929. Express Yourself (feat. Jonathan Groff) – Glee Cast

Albums (top 1000)
6. The Fame Monster (Deluxe Version) – Lady GaGa
13. Glee: The Music – The Power of Madonna – Glee Cast
15. Glee: The Music, Vol. 1 – Glee Cast
24. The Fame – Lady GaGa
25. Glee: The Music, Vol. 2 – Glee Cast
29. The Fame Monster – Lady GaGa
31. Your Songs – Harry Connick, Jr.
38. Play On – Carrie Underwood
40. Classic Sinatra – His Great Performances, 1953-1960 – Frank Sinatra
80. Nothing But the Best – The Frank Sinatra Collection (Remastered) – Frank Sinatra
128. Frank Sinatra: The American Idol Collection – Frank Sinatra
146. I Dreamed a Dream – Susan Boyle
156. The Fame Monster – Lady GaGa
203. Leave This Town (Bonus Track Version) – Daughtry
270. For Your Entertainment – Adam Lambert
326. Carnival Ride – Carrie Underwood
359. For Your Entertainment (Deluxe Version) – Adam Lambert
360. My Best Days – Danny Gokey
387. Daughtry – Daughtry
398. Leave This Town – Daughtry
451. Jason Castro (Deluxe Version) – Jason Castro
460. Some Hearts – Carrie Underwood
464. All Is Fair – Anoop Desai
644. All I Ever Wanted (Deluxe Version) – Kelly Clarkson
654. Oh, My Nola – Harry Connick, Jr.
738. In the Wee Small Hours – Frank Sinatra
841. Breakaway – Kelly Clarkson
868. Kris Allen – Kris Allen
882. Nothing But the Best (The Frank Sinatra Collection) [Remastered] {Deluxe Edition} – Frank Sinatra
890. Leave Right Now – Will Young
893. David Cook – David Cook
921. Slumberland – Lee DeWyze

Here’s the updated spincrease on mediabase Hot AC chart. This chart lists the songs that have made the biggest move (a.k.a. added spins) over the past 7 days from previous 7 days. I hope it’s a good sign that Kris is right behind Lady Gaga and Ke4ha!

RANK MOVE STATIONS
7th 158 106 Adam Lambert WWFM
11th 127 93 Kelly Clarkson AIEW
14th 88 28 Ke$ha Your Love Is My Drug
15th 85 18 Lady Gaga Alejandro
16th 83 19 Kris Allen The Truth

Am I the only one who doesn’t care where the Glee cast charts? Or any non-idol for that matter.

Pam

LOL – Hey, Kris must have sold another album or two, because my feed has him at #854, not #868.

Caden

nope…I couldn’t care less either. I don’t watch the show and am not going to see the tour.

Sun, 09 May 2010 at 4:30 pm
Happy Mother’s Day From the Stars!

It’s all about momma’s today and JJJ hopes you’re doing something super special for your own mom. Check out some celebs Mother’s Day messages below!

-snip-

David Archuleta: Happy Mother’s Day to my mom, and to all the mothers, aunts, grandmothers, and incredible women who act as a mom. You are amazing!

http://justjaredjr.buzznet.com/2010/05/09/happy-mothers-day-from-the-stars/

WXRK (92.3) in NYC PLAYED IIHY!

WXRK is a Rhythmic-leaning Top 40 station.

They were the largest radio station in the country to never even PLAY WWFM once. Ever.

Interestingly-it seems like the more rhythmic leaning Top 40 stations are the early adopters this time around. The Seattle station that has been playing IIHY for at least a week now is a Rhythmic Top 40 station. IIHY is already up to #14 on their playlist!

You really make me wonder if I understood this thing properly because I thought the points he was criticizing were very clear: over produced, too many tracks (many that could have been trashed), no artistic vision and bloated with too many different styles of music.

This is interesting because I found his review to be: overly pretentious, too many words (many that could have been edited), no coherent vision and bloated with too many extraneous thoughts that went nowhere and added nothing.

Completely clear that he’s not a professional writer given that his byline is “Gary K” whereas the rest of the contributors to the blog have actual names and pictures. Maybe he’s somebody’s cousin who they bring in occasionally when they need to fill blog space.

Krock played iihy????? How do you know?

tiger92:
05/09/2010 at 7:00 pm
WXRK (92.3) in NYC PLAYED IIHY!

They’re playing it in Ontario too. I don’t know when they started, but it played a few hours ago.

They’re playing it in Ontario too. I don’t know when they started, but it played a few hours ago.

Ontario California or Canada?

Hey, Kris must have sold another album or two, because my feed has him at #854, not #868.

As long as it took me to post all of those, I would say that’s possible. heh

I believe that “Gary K” is entitled to have his opinion about FYE-the album. He gave it 5 out of 10 stars, but he gave the same ranking to GaGa’s Fame , so maybe Adam is in the good company? After all Mariah Carey got 2 stars..
As you must know already, English is my second language, but I have no problem with reading and comprehending anything. Until GaryK’s review…John Steinbeck he ain’t..

spring2009:
05/09/2010 at 7:24 pm
Ontario California or Canada?

Canada, in Barrie. B101 FM. As we speak they’re playing WWFM and said that it’s #16 on AT40.

I don’t remember Cook’s or Archies hometown visits, but these moments always stuck out to me (I’m skipping Adam because well, no explanation necessary:

Best homecoming – Elliot, hands down
Emotional performance – Fantasia, Summertime
Winning moment-David Cook

I had tears for all three, just emotionally touching.

Not really watching this year, but from what I read here, I think Crystal’s will be one to remember.

Yes to all three! Summertime was the first, and one of the very few that made me cry. Talk about pouring your heart into a performance. I’d also add in Kelly’s winning moment. David’s still makes me weep. Everything about that, the tears, having his mom and brother on stage, sharing the moment with Archie. Love <3 I suspect if Crystal wins we'll see her little boy up on that stage and it will be another Kleenex moment..

One other moment that still gets to me is from the season 4 F2 performance night, Carrie's final song, Angels Brought Me Here. Lordy I still get choked up watching that. For as much as she was called a robot all season she was choking back tears from the last few notes right up until when Simon told her she did enough to win. When they had the AI Rewind interview with her and she recalled that performance she started tearing up again.

MJ, this may be known to you already but someone posted this link at TWOP Sir Elton John will replace Simon Cowell as a judge on American Idol in 2011.

if you want to try and track spins, you can go on yes.com and put in Adam’s or Kris’s (or whoever’s) name in the station name box and it will pop up links to click on. Until the last day or so, neither o their new singles were showing up (just WWFM, LLWD and the occasional older song) but it look like yes.com has now entered IIHU and TT into the system, as I’ve seen the random spin for both songs on there.

Guess the Train connection for The Truth is working. I was just watching the Fuse Top 20 Video countdown and before HSS, the host talked about Pat M. writing TT and how Kris “asked” him to sing on it. Than said it was coming out on Tuesday.

FYI – WWFM was # 7 – which surprised me since all of the other songs up to that point were pretty current releases

Tiger92
What!!! Which seattle station is playing IIHY???

I hope that everyone does realize that the internet is full of sites that work real hard to make a blog look like a legitimate sponsored mainline media site and that people involved with these blogs are just posting their opinions made to look like legitimate reviews. It only takes a minute to check the authorship of these sites to get an idea of how legit they are and then to put any stock in them.

Having a personal opinion and posting it on a blog is all well and good…we do it here all the time. But to set up a blog to look like a legitimate “music media site” and to intimate that you are writing a professional review is pretty aberrant. The writing of the review we have been talking about is an assistant at the news desk for the Guardian, UK. He has no apparent ties to anything in the real world of music…nor does he give any background that would make his opinion more valid than anyone elses.

To MJs credit she always lets us know that her I-tune AI reviews are based on her opinions…and though she is a vested music fan she never claims to be a “professionalmusic critic/reviewer” and even in her off-blog work she caveats what she says as information gathered from her posters. This is responsible blogging (and sorry MJ about talking about the blog but I think it is warranted here).

Shadowearth
Actually WWFM is #6 this week it was #7 last week on VH1 Top 20

smeggingnuts:
05/09/2010 at 7:41 pm
Shadowearth
Actually WWFM is #6 this week it was #7 last week on VH1 Top 20

No, this was on the FUSE Top 20, not VH1. Is was #6 on VH1, but # 7 on Fuse which based on this countdown is much more Rythmic/ Urban centric and newer songs except for WWFM & HSS.

What!!! Which seattle station is playing IIHY???

Smeggingnuts:

The only station I know of in Seattle that is playing IIHY is KMIH, a very small station run out of Mercer Island High School (hence the call letters KMIH). The station isn’t listed in Mediabase as either a monitored or activator station – they played LLWD pretty frequently a while back (and may still). They play a lot of shortened versions of songs, and had their own remix version of LLWD they were playing. I’m not sure if they’re actually playing the full IIHY, or just a partial mix of it. If you listen to it, you’ll notice they don’t take many breaks between songs, and just go from one song to the next with the same beat track running. It’s interesting.

MaryS-NJ: MJ, this may be known to you already but someone posted this link at TWOP Sir Elton John will replace Simon Cowell as a judge on American Idol in 2011.

So, how reliable is this “news?” I’m likely in the minority, but not keen on Elton taking Simon’s place. Will think about all the reasons why not. I’m not a Simon fan and maybe Elton has some qualities that remind me too much of Simon.

I thought Ellen was going to bring comedy/wit. But she’s stiff, her lines sound rehearsed, and she often has that deer-in-the-headlights look.

If possible, I’d like to see Harry C. Jr. take Simon’s place. Harry brought such energy, comedy, smarts, music talent, and class to that show for two days. He brought some bright light to a dim season.

Am I the only one who doesn’t care where the Glee cast charts? Or any non-idol for that matter.

I cover Glee on the blog, so it’s relevant. Carry on, Pam .

I hope that everyone does realize that the internet is full of sites that work real hard to make a blog look like a legitimate sponsored mainline media site and that people involved with these blogs are just posting their opinions made to look like legitimate reviews.

Is it really that important that every review must be positive, even if it was somebody walking down the street it was an opinion, if you agree with it good if not it’s still good. I read the review and enough people thought it was legit enough to comment on so they thought it important enough..just saying!!

If it turns out to be true about Elton JOhn replacing Simon, I’m not too sure yet how I feel about this. I’ve seen him on talk shows and he’s a bit stodgy. To me he doesn’t have that quick wit and charisma that Simon has had . So we shall see!

I read the review and enough people thought it was legit enough to comment on so they thought it important enough..just saying!!

I think people commented on it because not much else is going on today. It’s a slow Sunday and Mother’s Day. But I don’t think that legitimizes anything. LOL.

So, how reliable is this “news?” I’m likely in the minority, but not keen on Elton taking Simon’s place. Will think about all the reasons why not. I’m not a Simon fan and maybe Elton has some qualities that remind me too much of Simon.

HappyDaisy, Honestly, I don’t have a clue how reliable this is. I just passed along the link because it’s out there and appears to be American Idol-related.

When Elton was on Oprah Friday before last I think, he seemed kind of frail to me. I know he’s only 63(I think) but his early life may have taken a toll. To quote Simon, I don’t think he’s “current” enough to be good on AI. I would like Harry Connick, though. Just not sure that would attract enough viewers. There just aren’t that many good choices. Maybe AI should just retire and let X-Factor take over.
As for the final four, just listening to Lee on Annabelle, it doesn’t even seem like the same guy! I don’t understand why “this” Lee can’t come across on stage. Crystal is pretty consistent with her pre-Idol stuff, but talks back too much. Casey can be either really good, or ordinary, and Big Mike has a great voice, but to me seems too mechanical sometimes. Can’t get REALLY excited about any one of them.
I do like Holy Toledo, though – think it’s a good song she wrote.

I think Elton John would be an exciting choice to replace Simon. I hope it’s true.

^^^ “Holy Toledo” isn’t even her best IMO – the DJ at the station in Toledo that started playing it said they did mainly just because it had Toledo in the title. It’s a good song but she has several others I think that are better yet. “Sandman” is great, as is “On the Run,” “Finally Got it Right,” “Farmer’s Daughter,” and several others.

And I haven’t seen anything she’s done as “talking back.” To me that implies rudeness, and she’s never been rude at all. She’s opinionated, sure, but does not just mouth off to be belligerant. I think it’s just a commentary on our society as a whole that for the most part, you’re not allowed to hold your own opinion or defend your opinion if others disagree. Especially if you’re a woman (and I’m a guy, and I think it’s wrong that women frequently have to deal with that).

I hope that everyone does realize that the internet is full of sites that work real hard to make a blog look like a legitimate sponsored mainline media site …

You mean like Rock Star Weekly or whatever that silly mag was called. For some reason, peeps had few problems with all their fan written drivel. That Brit site seems at least more legit than them. Anyway, it’s one person’s opinion like all reviews. Take it or leave it at your own discretion.

I’m not sure how I feel about Sir Elton on Idol.

I think Elton John is not a good choice. I just think it should be someone more current. Not that I watch the show, lol, but just saying.

I see that VFTW has endorsed Casey James this week. Thought for sure it would be Mike again.

Eileen99
Awww I’m crushed I was hopeing to hear IIHY on the radio before fall:( damn

That review is confusing.

certain1:
05/09/2010 at 6:01 pm
For those that are interested the 5/13 & 5/18 QVC shows will not air per an email I received from the company. The next airing will be on 5/25 at 10 pm EST. They did not say who would guest but I believe Danny was already scheduled for that day.

I sent an email to QVC when I no longer saw the shows listed on the Program Guide and that was the response they sent back to me.

I have Direct TV and on 5/13 and 5/18 on 10:00pm EST the schedule are still “American Idol Fan Shop”.
So, I’m still going to TIVO the programs and see what happens.
Does anybody know if it is a taped programs ? I assume that Kris has not taped his segment yet.
Anyway, I hope that his segment won’t be cancelled. I want to see Kris on my TV for a full hour even if it is just some chit chat.

I was at Adam’s home coming. It was a celebration. He wasn’t publicly talking about being gay in high school or anything like that yet, but he talked about embracing being different and sang Black or White to enthusiastic crowd. It was a touching moment to me, but he did not make it emotional or anything. I read about him and his mom choking up later.

For those who say that we didn’t have 20,000 people there: first of all, we couldn’t fit 20,000 people in high school stadium. For some reason, they didn’t make any announcement of the events (I suspect Police or city hall didn’t want a big hysterical and unorganized crowed in downtown or wherever). I was surprised that that many people actually knew where to show up for a practically unannounced event on Friday at 11am!

Only one side of the stadium was filled with the students from his high school and the other half was filled with the community people. Both sizes were screaming our heads off. Because you had to skip school or work, it made it hard to attend the assembly on Friday. I am sure that there were surge of Orthodontics appointment reported at middle schools and high schools that day. I guess you can say that if you are serious fan, forget school, forget work

And, oh, yes, I love the clip of Kris going home. But there is a difference between the case of Kris family who still has the house and live there, and Adam’s family who moved away from where he grew up. It is hard to make a video of you “coming home” to your family when your family doesn’t live in the house any more. Home coming is an odd thing for somebody whose family moved a lot, or if you moved out of parents and have lived on your own for a long time, isn’t it?

I am amazed how civilized and loving towards each other Adam’s parents are even after divorce. Later, I thought it was inspirational. But they have their privacy and if they don’t want to make that a center piece of the story, they don’t have to. I had no idea that they were divorced and Adam’s whole background was a bit of a mystery while he was on AI. I am glad that they didn’t have to do anything they didn’t want to.

I love Elton John but don’t think you should use another Brit for a judge. Surely there are plenty from America to choose from?

“You mean like Rock Star Weekly or whatever that silly mag was called. For some reason, peeps had few problems with all their fan written drivel. That Brit site seems at least more legit than them. Anyway, it’s only one person’s opinion like all reviews. Take it or leave it at your own discretion.”

It appears in some people’s eyes that when a review is positive its a legitimate blog but when its negative then its not. It really depends on which side of the fence you are sitting to me!!

smeggingnuts:
05/09/2010 at 5:58 pm
I ddont remeber seeing this sorry if it has been posted before but
This is an acoustic WWFM with just Monte from a german radio show

smeggs… the link that you posted for this didn’t work for me. Did it work for others? Could you please check the link and post it again? I’d love to hear it. Thanks!

I like Elton John as a judge, but now they should dump the other 3 and get back Paula and i don’t know…Justin Timberlake? Yes! Justin, Paula, Elton. That’s it.

Here’s another link to WWFM acoustic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrXZrbi3Sc0

Happy Mother’s Day !

http://i44.tinypic.com/jjog3p.jpg

Harry Connick Jr is the one!!!

This is kinda “off the beaten path” about a judge for Idol, but I really really like JC Chasez as a judge on America’s Best Dance Crew show. He is very intelligent, quick, brutally honest and seems to know his music. Yes it’s a dance show, but he was in one of the biggest groups in the world N Sync where he sang (I guess). I think he would be great.
edit: oh and he’s current and not bad to look at either!
And the WWFM link didn’t work for me either.

Oh yeah, dump Kara and get Paula back. Complete the list with Harry Connick, Jr. to replace Simon.

Thank you for the vote of confidence mj.

Here see if this link works for that acoustic WWFM with just Monte in Germany
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrXZrbi3Sc0

wait-92.3 played “if i had you” -the station is that huge in nyc and in direct competition to z100?? the one that never once played wwfm, (granted they are rhymthic-very urban leaning top 40??) amazeballs!!!

How do you see who spins songs? I tried ‘Stations not added’ but don’t see it there.

smeggs….the link worked…beautiful. I pictured them sitting around in Adam’s “Zen” room jamming at 3 in the morning.

csprof:
05/09/2010 at 2:30 pm
undercooked

The Matt Giraud performance on May 15 is at a new AT&T store in La Canada, 894 Foothill Blvd. It will be inside the store from 1-3PM, and it sounds like the main concert will be from 1-2 since the store originally posted that time, and that the next hour will be a meet and greet.

Thanks csprof!

My 3 choices for Idol judges are Randy (sorry, I like him), Paula and JC Chasez. No brits…they’ll be on X factor and America’s got talent.

I would kill to hear Lee cover Kings if Leon’s Knocked Up or Milk. I just had to tell somebody how awesome that’d be. Lol

Canada, in Barrie. B101 FM. As we speak they’re playing WWFM and said that it’s #16 on AT40.

WOW – that is really amazing…I haven’t heard IIHY in Toronto yet!

Please no. i don’t want anybody ever to cover KoL on idol:(.

Best homecoming – Elliot, hands down

Amen to that. It was awesome. I was there! I got to see him up close twice that day – both downtown and at the baseball game that night – and both times he literally had tears in his eyes. He seemed totally blown away by all of the support.

Tweet from Adam:

Had a lovely lunch w my Mom at The Inn Of The Seventh Ray in Topanga Canyon. Such a beautiful setting.
11 minutes ago via Echofon

Tweets from others:

DaniBSchwartz
Ran into @adamlambert at our Mother’s Day brunch this afternoon. My Mother and Grandma swooned.

queenjord
Alex just saw @adamlambert having brunch with his mama. She ran to go say hi to him from me but he left. This story makes me swoon then cry.

It appears in some people’s eyes that when a review is positive its a legitimate blog but when its negative then its not. It really depends on which side of the fence you are sitting to me!!

Yep, when it’s your favorite, a negative review isn’t legitimate or the reviewer has a bias. When it’s an Idol you can’t stand or one that competes with your favorite, it’s the holy grail of all reviews and the reviewer is an expert and vice versa. LOL. We’ve seen it with every Idol album release this year. In fact, we saw it with most of the concert reviews from the AI tour this summer too.

Tweets from viewers of the Wossy show:

SGavinEllis: @Wossy just watched your show with Adam Lambert, what a lovely guy, and cracking voice to boot

krazycat: @cantinera @vixalicious Adam Lambert was on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross on Friday. I have to admit he was charming as hell.

AshleighPounds: just catching up with Jonathan Ross and Adam Lambert is soooooo cute!! But oh my god Jake Gyllenhaal!!!! SCRUMMY!!!! xxx

thisisjoemorton: @adamlambert on Jonathan Ross was hilarious. Adam’s great.

Doogle3097: @adamlambert i loved seeing you on @wossy’s show.

aymeh: Every man on Earth take note: Adam Lambert’s hair on Jonathan Ross is sexy. as. fuck.

HeyAmberMay: Adam Lambert from American idol on Jonathan Ross is looking very good i must say

Jooles_34: Watching Adam Lambert on last night’s Jonathan Ross. Hell that man is pretty. And *totally* awesome suit.

CharlieChalkley: Adam Lambert looks stunning on Friday Night w/ Jonathan Ross :3

iamMiraje: Enjoyable Jonathan Ross yesterday. Changed my perceptions on Adam Lambert quite a bit.. never judge a book by its cover.

merlinswand: Huh didn’t know Adam Lambert was an understudy in Wicked. Also this Jonathan Ross interview is great.

hunni_h: Watching last night’s Wossy! Adam Lambert is looking very well! And Jake Gyllenhall is lush!

tiger92:
05/09/2010 at 10:18 pm

Tweet from Adam:

Had a lovely lunch w my Mom at The Inn Of The Seventh Ray in Topanga Canyon. Such a beautiful setting.
11 minutes ago via Echofon

Wow that restaurant is beautiful. Look at the scenery.

http://www.innoftheseventhray.com/inn%20folio.htm

Any Adam fans who think Adam wouldn’t stick up for Kris, and especially his mother, just really have no idea what Adam the person is all about.

No truer words have been written. Now wait for the “but Kris or Matt never tweets to him..blah, blah” from the “few” crazies.

I personally think that Kris is so busy not only with his music, but the fact that he has a wife that he has to worry about in his “spare” time while he is not out touring. (not saying that the other idols are less busy).

On the Ryan Seacrest KISS FM interview, Ryan asked basically how did he manage to be a married man while busy touring, and Kris said that they did a lot of making ups – “sorry that I forgot to call you last night, etc”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs8jc9wabR0

If he forgot to call his own wife once in a while, I think it is reasonable that he can forget to tweet some other idols’ released singles.

ETA: Kris looks really hot in the video . I can’t wait to download his new single cover on the 5/11.

That acoustic WWFM was amazing. I don’t think we’ve heard him sing anything with just Monte have we? How many more ways can he possibly sing that song? It’s never the same way twice and I’ve yet to tire of it. Funny, our local station which is probably classified as HAC is playing it more than ever right now. I guess it’ll be quite a while before they spin IIHY. I’ll have to take a bullet and switch over to a pop station to hear it. lol

Geez you people gonna post every single tweet about Adam. Lol

Judee:
05/09/2010 at 10:16 pm
Please no. i don’t want anybody ever to cover KoL on idol:(.

Not necessarily on idol though. He’s already covered Use Somebody and Sex on Fire so why not?

That WWFM must be the one that Monte tweeted about a few days ago. He said it was unique, that they had just taped it at NRJ, which are the initials of the station behind Adam. And it is unique, the most intimate sounding one I have heard yet. Like he’s just sitting next to you singing.

Bo Bice is on Fox news right now. He’s talking about the flooding in Nashville.

Bo said 100% of the proceeds for Long Road Back are going to the flood victims. I must say Bo looks kinda hot with that haircut.

On replacing Simon. I wish they would do like “Live with Regis and Kelly” did when they picked Kelly. When Kathie Lee quit, they had a new co-host every week till they found the one who people seemed to like and picked Kelly.

As much as I love Ellen, and I do. She’s just not adding much to the show at all. They would of seen that if they put her on a trial basis.

Blah, blah, blah American idol, where the heck is Jesse St. James in the Glee clip? Not happy, no not at all.

Well if Lee were going to cover KOL on Idol, he’d have to do it Top 3 week, since Finale week is one repeat song, one producer’s choice and the coronation song, and this coming week is movie week and I don’t think KOL has had any songs in movies, have they?

But I think if he really wanted to cover KOL, he’d wait and do it on the AI tour

Love the hometown visits. I’m a softee.

I don’t know if I want to see Casey’s or Mike’s more.

I think the lack of buzz to the top 4 is because most people only care of who’s going to be top 2, although I think Casey has more supporters than Mike. Who knows.
This time last year the buzz was big because most people wanted certain top 3, so it was a much bigger deal.
I think in 2 weeks, going from top 3 to top 2, the buzz will be big.

really like JC Chasez as a judge on America’s Best Dance Crew show

That’s exactly what I thought when I was thinking who would be good to replace Simon. And I agree, the Brits should just stay home!

You mean like Rock Star Weekly or whatever that silly mag was called. For some reason, peeps had few problems with all their fan written drivel.

Naw, some people aren’t crazy about it. Like me LOL. I think they discovered Adam web traffic and started pandering to it. I love Adam, but I no longer bother to click on links from them, or the Examiner or Associated Content stories that are also usually fan written.

For me over the top gushing is as offputting as some of the excessively negative stuff.

I think in 2 weeks, going from top 3 to top 2, the buzz will be big.

and that’s right, a BUZZ is all that this season can create, nothing more than that. It is so sad, we had no watercooler moment this year in my office at all, while in years past we had almost real fan wars. It was exciting. I seem to be the only person left in my office, who cares about Idol this year.

smeggs and sr4mjc… that acoustic WWFM was gorgeous. Simply beautiful. I could listen to him sing like that 24/7 and never get tired of it. Thanks for posting it.

Is it true that Sir Elton is going to be a judge on AI afterall? or just rumor?

Idol bosses have been longing to lure Sir Elton back since he rounded on Cowell and the other judges for booting off eventual ­Oscar winner Jennifer Hudson.

That whole episode when Elton J complained to the media and made it somewhat political, still left me bitter and kind of sad.
First, it is not the judges, but America voted, and somehow he as a British person complained about discrimination, etc.

As I remember it, that season had 4 black lady singers with big voices. Same like this season’s White Girl With Guitar, there are too many for America to vote on. They basically split the votes.

Anyway, this is just my opinion only.

that acoustic WWFM was gorgeous. Simply beautiful. I could listen to him sing like that 24/7 and never get tired of it.

yeah me too …. swoon… it is so amazing, how many different version he has sung of WWFM. It must be over 30 different ways.. Adam is just so amazing.

Ratna12

I doubt the buzz is going to be big…the ratings are dropping every week…doesn’t seem like too many really care who wins this year.

Adam’s voice is like a lullabye. I super adore him.

I enjoy being so random. lol.

I doubt the buzz is going to be big…the ratings are dropping every week…doesn’t seem like too many really care who wins this year.

you are right girlygirl, even I am starting to lose interest. I am going into the “whatever” bratty-teenager-mode

OMG these are cool:
http://twitpic.com/1mlel1 http://twitpic.com/1mle8w, pic and article out of Oz’s famous magazine, which featured Adam.

Geez you people gonna post every single tweet about Adam. Lol

Lol
The tweets from viewers in the UK that were posted are just a teeny percentage of the positive messages out there about the Wossy interview. Those were in no way “all” the tweets that are out there! We are talking about Adam here. Wherever he goes and whatever he does seems to generate thousands of tweets and media mentions. Believe me, that was an extremely small percentage of the tweets that were generated by the Wossy interview.

cakeygirl:
05/09/2010 at 9:53 pm
wait-92.3 played “if i had you” -the station is that huge in nyc and in direct competition to z100?? the one that never once played wwfm, (granted they are rhymthic-very urban leaning top 40??) amazeballs!!!

Yep! It is amazing! I see where you said they were going to play it again. Did they?

They somehow need to try and make the homecomings “equal”. It was kinda demoralizing when Kris had an amphitheater which held over 20K people, as opposed to the high school football field for Adam. The h.s. and middle school students were the bulk of the people filling the stands. I bet the majority of them weren’t even interested. I’m sure real fans would have shown up for Adam from around so. CA. if it was in a different location/venue.

I don’t think that they can make it equal, especially if one of the contestants is from Southern California (California). It is just a different mindset here. I remember Lisa Tucker from Anaheim, CA (my neighbor city) and I did not even bother to vote for her. I was happy that she made it to top 10 though, so she made it to tour.

AL was from Los Angeles/San Diego last year and no one in my workplace out of 60 people even watch AI, except me; and I was busy power voting for Kris.

I think the lack of buzz to the top 4 is because most people only care of who’s going to be top 2, although I think Casey has more supporters than Mike. Who knows.
This time last year the buzz was big because most people wanted certain top 3, so it was a much bigger deal.
I think in 2 weeks, going from top 3 to top 2, the buzz will be big.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Casey gets eliminated this week. I think there was a lot of panic voting that got him where he was this past week – although to be honest for him to have not been one of the bottom 2 even, that’s a lot of panic voting. I think another weak performance for him though and he may be the next one to go. Mike deserves top 3 more than Casey, but we all know it’s not always the most deserving one that makes it.

Maybe the buzz will really pick up in the coming weeks. Maybe not. I’m not really that worried either way because I watch the show for me and can’t really make others, nor would I worry about it (although if I could get more people to watch and vote for Crystal I would, lol). I’ll be curious to see home town visits too, assuming Crystal makes it to top 3. To be completely truthful, there’s not a ton “good” going on in NW Ohio right now (the county Crystal’s from has unemployment somewhere around 19% and Toledo’s unemployment is about the same, businesses all drying up and leaving, and this corner of the state is almost like the butt of jokes for the rest of the state). Sounds like plans are for fans to meet her at the county fairgrounds not that far from her hometown, and it’s a pretty big fairground. I think people will really turn out big time for her – when they show local bars and the church in her hometown it’s all ages, all types of people there too, many of which aren’t the usual Idol watching types. Hopefully we’ll see…

I don’t think that they can make it equal, especially if one of the contestants is from Southern California (California).

I agree. I seem to recall that the show doesn’t set all this stuff up itself. The local fan groups, radio shows, FOX network and businesses do most of the legwork. What is the show supposed to do? Nix anything cool just because one of the hometowns isn’t willing to do much? “Oh, I’m sorry, we’ll make Idol X skip the concert with attendance of 20,000 because the other guy only has a highschool stepping up to host his”? “Nope, the governor can’t declare it’s Idol Y day because Idol Z’s governor is on a trade mission to Asia”? “Idol S can’t visit her Mom because Idol B’s Mom died and we don’t want to give A the emotional advantage”?

Must all the packages feature the same stuff? Look, for whatever reason (disorganized, dealing with some crisis, too cool for school, whatever), some hometown visits aren’t as splashy as others, but they are pretty fun to watch. I wouldn’t want to have stiffled Cook’s hometown visit just because Syesha’s was a little dull. I wouldn’t have wanted to skip Elliott’s emotional homecoming just because Kat only got a highschool and a helicopter ride. The lame-o hometown visits are neither the fault of the show or the other contestants. I don’t think we should deny the Idols, fans, hometowns or the Idol audience the pleasure of a well-done home visit.

A good hometown visit is one of the emotional high-points of the season. In fairness, they don’t play them until the results night, so they don’t effect who goes home that week. And they really seem to pack an emotional impact for the Idols. And, if anything, the lame-o home visits leave the Idols better rested for the Top 3 performance, so that probably counteracts any bump an Idol with a busy hometown visit might get (especially a week later).

The show does a lot of unfair things (from featuring some Idols during the audition/Hollywood phase, to doing a better job of clearing songs, to giving more favourable performance positions to certain contestants compared to others). IMO, TPTB have the least control over what happens during the homevisits and it’s one of the highlights of the season. So, sure, they can be a little unfair, but of all the unfair things the show does, it is the one that bothers me the least.

As I remember it, that season had 4 black lady singers with big voices. Same like this season’s White Girl With Guitar, there are too many for America to vote on. They basically split the votes.

It doesn’t really matter if it’s multiple white boys who can’t sing tough. In that case, no problem of too many of the same type or split votes.

ETA: BTW, I think you mean 3: Latoya, JHud, Fantasia

You mean like Rock Star Weekly or whatever that silly mag was called. For some reason, peeps had few problems with all their fan written drivel.

soverymel:
Naw, some people aren’t crazy about it. Like me LOL. I think they discovered Adam web traffic and started pandering to it. I love Adam, but I no longer bother to click on links from them, or the Examiner or Associated Content stories that are also usually fan written.

For me over the top gushing is as offputting as some of the excessively negative stuff.

Yeah I stopped posting from those places as well when I realized it was pretty much fan stuff. Not a big fan of the ott articles that try to portray news. I don’t mind if they say huge fan here is my artcile…anyway YMMV

It doesn’t really matter if it’s multiple white boys who can’t sing tough. In that case, no problem of too many of the same type or split votes.

Well… same genre, ethnicity eliminations have extended to white, male competitors in the past. See Constantine’s elimination for further details. It happens. Now, do black (particularly female) contestants still tend to get (unfairly) lumped together more often? Yes. But it’s not entirely that simple.

(Especially because of the ones that can’t sing this season (which I’m guessing is the referent), only two were arguably of the same genre, and even that’s a stretch)

92.3 (New York) has a story about Adam’s tour dates on their website!

http://923now.radio.com/2010/05/06/adam-….tes/#more-49205

Well… same genre, ethnicity eliminations have extended to white, male competitors in the past. See Constantine’s elimination for further details. It happens. Now, do black (particularly female) contestants still tend to get (unfairly) lumped together more often? Yes. But it’s not entirely that simple.

Constantine suffered from that? As far as white boys go, I can’t imagine 3 more different contestants than Constantine, Scott and Fedorov. As far as performance goes, How You Remind Me was the most fake rocker performance I’ve ever seen, pretty much Tyler Grady (who?) level.

Last year there was Matt, Danny and Kris, all white boys soul singer, all in the top 5. This year we had Tim, Aaron, Casey and Lee all made top 7 and if you really compare the quality of their performance with the 3 black divas, then I can’t do anything for you.

Maybee that seems like too much generalization but it’s pretty much the samee thing as saying that Crystal, Katelyn, Lilly or Janell were the same type and 3 of those were dumped before the finals even begin.

Constantine suffered from that? As far as white boys go, I can’t imagine 3 more different contestants than Constantine, Scott and Fedorov. As far as performance goes, How You Remind Me was the most fake rocker performance I’ve ever seen, pretty much Tyler Grady (who?) level.

Umm… Bo. You forgot the big one. White, male rockers split the vote that year; Constantine lost.

Last year there was Matt, Danny and Kris, all white boys soul singer, all in the top 5. This year we had Tim, Aaron, Casey and Lee all made top 7 and if you really compare the quality of their performance with the 3 black divas, then I can’t do anything for you.

Hardly comparing the quality, but note the differentiation in the genres. Aaron was (allegedly) country, and notably a teen; Tim got the Top 7 boot, so it’s hard to say there wasn’t vote splitting going on there at some level, but it’s complicated by any number of things (poor performance quality, becoming the resident joke contestant), plus Lee and Casey, while kind of in the pop/rock vein, are decently differentiated (Casey taking on the country/blue side, Lee with the post-grunge thing).

S8 is really the same deal. Yeah, you can say “white soul boys”, but that ignores everything and anything in between those three that distinguished them. And Matt got the top 7 boot, arguably splitting with Kris. (The people who talked about what made them vote for Kris and Matt had little in common with the people who argued for Danny, so I doubt there was any vote splitting going on there, though it’s not beyond the pale that Danny’s votes went to Kris as an alternative to Adam.)

There wasn’t as much in terms of genre or anything similar to contrast LaToya, Jennifer, and Fantasia, even if comparing them as performers can often be a little crass. But, honestly, comparing them and expecting them to pull similar voters isn’t a stretch.

Heck, we had the Tamyra boot in S1, and that was vote splitting with a white contestant (Kelly). So, even though race plays a factor in how quick people are likely to lump contestants together, genre is huge in understanding that.

(A bigger travesty, however? The lumping together of every black woman in S6, all of whom had *very* distinct identities, and still got compared to each other far more than was really granted by the performances.)

Umm… Bo. White, male rockers split the vote that year; Constantine lost.

I know there was Bo, but saying that Constantine was eliminated because of that when he delivered that thud of a performance is pushing it.
If that’s the case than Nadia Turner who was sent home before Constantine suffered even more, exiting at top 8 when she was one of the frontrunners just 2 weeks before.

Hardly comparing the quality, but note the differentiation in the genres. Aaron was (allegedly) country, and notably a teen; Tim got the Top 7 boot, so it’s hard to say there wasn’t vote splitting going on there at some level, but it’s complicated by any number of things, plus Lee and Casey, while kind of in the pop/rock vein, are decently differentiated (Casey taking on the country/blue side, Lee with the post-grunge thing).

Tim suffered from vote splitting? The guy had the worse voice in the entire top 12 or even 24. No female contestant would ever survive the kind of run Tim had, they would have been sent home 2 weeks in.

Your differentiation is the same as all those white girls with guitar that were supposedly vote splitting.
Janell is pop country, Lilly was indie Jazz, Crystal is folk rock, Katelyn was pop rock, etc.

And if we are going to compare quality, the girls trump the guys this year, overall WNTS ratings for the girl is 52 and 45 for the guys, and we end up with 6 guys in the top 10 and 4 in the top 5.

I know there was Bo, but saying that Constantine was eliminated because of that when he delivered that thud of a performance is pushing it.

Constantine’s performance was bad, but under other conditions he wouldn’t have been eliminated for it. Plus, in other conditions, Bo would never, ever have been in the bottom two the prior week. They were vote splitting pretty hard.

Tim suffered from vote splitting? The guy had the worse voice in the entire top 12 or even 24. No female contestant would ever survive the kind of run Tim had, they would have been sent home 2 weeks in.

Not mutually incompatible thoughts. Again, point to where I said that white male contestants were on an equal playing field and aquired fanbases the way other contestants did. I didn’t actually say that, though.

Janell is pop country, Lilly was indie Jazz, Crystal is folk rock, Katelyn was pop rock, etc.

True, though including Janell is a headscratcher; her performance easily set her up for elimination on a Top 24 night, of all things.

Still, country/blues to post-grunge is a heck of a lot more distant (and I’d argue they’re *still* splitting votes, and we’ll see one of them go this week) than indie/jazz and folk-rock, which are, honestly, decidedly a little esoteric to some of the general AI viewers.

But, again, not speaking to the issue of women not being able to as easily formulate and cement independent fanbases that are branded around the television character and not performance quality. That’s not what I’m arguing here.

And if we are going to compare quality, the girls trump the guys this year, overall WNTS ratings for the girl is 52 and 45 for the guys, and we end up with 6 guys in the top 10 and 4 in the top 5.

Again, where did I make this claim of equality?

Last year there was Matt, Danny and Kris, all white boys sould singer, all in the top 5. This year we had Tim, Aaron, Casey and Lee all made top 7 and if you really compare the quality of their performance with the 3 black divas

I think it’s pretty harsh to label Matt, Danny, and Kris with a broad brush…very different voices if you ask me. A falsetto, jazzy tone vs. a gruff powerful voice vs. an emotive, honey-sweet tone (forgive me for my lack of technical terms). Similarly, I don’t think Jennifer or Fantasia’s styles were that similar.

Race might play some role in the voting, but I think the biggest issue has been bad casting among the African American contestants, especially this year. Big Mike has done well, and he’s the first African American male to make the top 4 since Ruben. I think the judges/producers dropped the ball early by sending Jermanine Purifory home and casting two highly polarizing singers and personalities in Jermaine Sellers and Todrick Hall. Haeley Vaughn or Paige Miles had no chance of winning, and I have no idea why Angela Martin wasn’t included instead or in addition to Haeley and Paige. I don’t think it’s fair to say divas don’t have a chance to win anymore, considering three years ago the top 4 had three “divas” in Jordin, Melinda, and LaKisha.

Bottom line: There haven’t been many stand-out divas in the past three seasons. If Melinda or Fantasia were on this season, I’m sure they’d be right up there with Crystal as favorites.

Not mutually incompatible thoughts. Again, point to where I said that white male contestants were on an equal playing field and aquired fanbases the way other contestants did. I didn’t actually say that, though.

Well, that’s the whole point of the argument, there is clear descrimination against:
1) Women
2) Minorities
I think this is getting worse and worse because of the voting system and the diminishing ratings.

True, though including Janell is a headscratcher; her performance easily set her up for elimination on a Top 24 night, of all things.

Yes Janell was set up for elimination and Tim sang Apologize that was one absolute trainwreck, yet he was still there at top 7 with the same limited range, poor phrasing and blank expressions.

Again, where did I make this claim of equality?

It wouldn’t have mattered if the three black divas were in the B3 if they were bad, I doubt Elton John was going to accuse people of racism.
The thing that made this an event is that they were so far away the best vocally of that bunch.

I think it’s pretty harsh to label Matt, Danny, and Kris with a broad brush…very different voices if you ask me. A falsetto, jazzy tone vs. a gruff powerful voice vs. an emotive, honey-sweet tone (forgive me for my lack of technical terms).

And not only that, but performance criticism had evolved just from a question of voice and singing quality to a question of musicanship, genre, and arrangement style, and those three didn’t have that much in common. Particularly Danny to Kris and Matt, and I’d argue Matt and Kris did in fact split some along the way (with Matt ultimately on the losing end).

I think it’s pretty harsh to label Matt, Danny, and Kris with a broad brush…very different voices if you ask me. A falsetto, jazzy tone vs. a gruff powerful voice vs. an emotive, honey-sweet tone (forgive me for my lack of technical terms). Similarly, I don’t think Jennifer or Fantasia’s styles were that similar.

Again, did you see similarities between the women who supposedely vote splitted this year. As far as I’m concerned I’ve never heard any voice similar to Lilly not only this year, but in the whole 9 years, same with Crystal, Siobhan or Katelyn.

There is a massive difference in the number of votes for men and women that it doesn’t really matter that the boys vote split ot not.

I still can’t get over Jermaine Purifory’s early dismissal before the semis…best male vocal in the competition this year in my opinion. Compare his rendition of Smile with Paige’s abomination later in the season. Sigh…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3GP8Za0cEo

Well, that’s the whole point of the argument, there is clear descrimination against:
1) Women
2) Minorities
I think this is getting worse and worse because of the voting system and the diminishing ratings.

Note that I quoted, however. I don’t care about your broader argument about minorities and women; heck, I’d be inclined to agree with it! But I don’t agree with the way you describe how it works, or with the broad strokes as you talk about vote splitting.

Yes Janell was set up for elimination and Tim sang Apologize that was one absolute trainwreck.

People will tell you time and time again, trainwreck is better than mediocre on a voting night with lots of people. See Brown, Lacey.

It wouldn’t have mattered if the three black divas were in the B3 if they were bad, I doubt Elton John was going to accuse people of racism.
The thing that made this an event is that they were so far away the best vocally of that bunch.

Yes, they were. But that doesn’t mean that basic vote splitting didn’t account for this and couldn’t account for this, because it largely could. Now, can you argue specifics of race factored in at those particular moments? Yes, and you’d probably be right. But neither is it as simple as a simple negative.

There is a massive difference in the number of votes for men and women that it doesn’t really matter that the boys vote split ot not.

I’d contest “doesn’t matter” (because it’s still a decently useful predictive tool, IMO), but, yes, it matters effectively more for women. Again, notes on TV characters vs. voting for performance quality.

There is a massive difference in the number of votes for men and women that it doesn’t really matter that the boys vote split ot not.

I think it comes down to demographics. The major Idol demographic is caucasian females. I think power voters would swing even more toward white women, whether tweens obsessed with Tim Urban’s hair and Lee Dewyze’s eyes or older women attracted by Adam Lambert’s glam rock stylings or Casey James’ looks.

It’s not fair, but the past few seasons women seem to have to be exceptional performers to advance (Allison & Crystal), while men can depend on other factors to advance.

Note that I quoted, however. I don’t care about your broader argument about minorities and women; heck, I’d be inclined to agree with it! But I don’t agree with the way you describe how it works, or with the broad strokes as you talk about vote splitting.

I completely understand, there are way more important subjects than gender or race parity on a reality tv show.
It’s just very irritating for me and I think it’s a big component of why the season has sucked hard, the big lack of diversity.

People will tell you time and time again, trainwreck is better than mediocre on a voting night with lots of people. See Brown, Lacey.

Again that’s more the case for women than men if you look at the last graphic here http://www.whatnottosing.com/library/editorials.asp?id=32

I completely understand, there are way more important subjects than gender or race parity on a reality tv show.
It’s just very irritating for me and I think it’s a big component of why the season has sucked hard, the big lack of diversity.

*sigh*

Again, not the point. It’s not that I think that those things are unimportant or uninteresting. However, if I walk into a crime scene and make an accusation, I get the details right.

Thus, claims like “vote splitting doesn’t happen with white, male contestants” are problematic, because they hurt any substaniative arguments about what factors race and gender do play, because they conflate the real causal factors with ones that aren’t. So being particular, for me, is really, really important.

So it’s not like I don’t care about your broader argument because I don’t think it’s important. It’s because it’s basic and I agree with the central premise, so I wasn’t even addressing it, truthfully. Working more or less in the details.

Again that’s more the case for women than men if you look at the last graphic here http://www.whatnottosing.com/library/editorials.asp?id=32

And I agree, and that graphic is a great reason why it’s important to clear out the casual factors that work against women versus the other ones that are just part and parcel of the show.

It’s just a more complicated relationship. Does vote splitting affect minorities and women more? Yes. Are minorities and women more likely to be lumped together than white, male contestants? Yes. Is it as simple as the yes/no question that was earlier implied? Hardly.

Again, rather than going to simple narratives about “it’s just discrimination that hurts minorities and women”, it’s better to talk about the way in which men have an easier time branding themselves as compelling television characters to the AI audience than women do, and the factors which cause minorities (in particular) to be seen in a more similar light with each other due to existing stereotypes created by the industry about those performers. And I will argue heavily for those kinds of narratives, and against something simple, because I think it’s an important issue and deserves better.

older women attracted by Adam Lambert’s glam rock stylings

LOL, don’t tell this to my daughter (18), that she’s catagorized as an older woman… Hahahaha and she can’t stand Casey James…. heeheehee

thanks to Green hippo for the article and pics from oz magazine, I love the introduction to the interview.

Hey don’t tell my 14 year old daughter either, I don’t want her to think she’s “old yet” hah! I like to think she just has good taste in music. She also loves Adam’s positive outlook on life and how polite and respectful he is. I’ll go with that perception!!!

Thus, claims like “vote splitting doesn’t happen with white, male contestants” are problematic, because they hurt any substaniative arguments about what factors race and gender do play, because they conflate the real causal factors with ones that aren’t. So being particular, for me, is really, really important.

Ok, I think I understand your argument better now.
And I’ll admit I shouldn’t have stated that “white men don’t split votes” as an absolute truth. What I really meant is like you said, that’s it doesn’t matter as much for them and they can advance much further despite that.

Again, rather than going to simple narratives about “it’s just discrimination that hurts minorities and women”, it’s better to talk about the way in which men have an easier time branding themselves as compelling television characters to the AI audience than women do, and the factors which cause minorities (in particular) to be seen in a more similar light with each other due to existing stereotypes created by the industry about those performers. And I will argue heavily for those kinds of narratives, and against something simple, because I think it’s an important issue and deserves better.

While IA that the industry representation of female and black artists may have had an impact on the voting and the fact that’s it’s harder for black artists to escape the RnB mold. This has been true for all the 8 past seasons of AI and I think there has been a recent evolution for the worse in relation to the chances of minorities and women on the show.
The way the voting has enrolled in the past few years in such an unilateral way tells me that the voting system that puts a premium on organized fanbases along with the diminishing ratings that have cut into casual voting has pretty much made matters 10 times worse.

SashaMallory Alright nuthin special just a few clips like i promised… enjoy friends http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qVdk73JlNE

this is from one of Adam’s dancers. There is some dance rehearsal stuff with Adam, back stage and sound check stuff at G-A-Y

While IA that the industry representation of female and black artists may have had an impact on the voting and the fact that’s it’s harder for black artists to escape the RnB mold. This has been true for all the 8 past seasons of AI and I think there has been a recent evolution for the worse in relation to the chances of minorities and women on the show.

The way the voting has enrolled in the past few years in such an unilateral way tells me that the voting system that puts a premium on organized fanbases along with the diminishing ratings that have cut into casual voting has pretty much made matters 10 times worse.

ITA – very well put.

And I think any fantasy that 10 phone votes actually matter was ripped away last year when there was so much press about how easy it is to vote 10,000 times in the Final with one AT&T Go Phone.

The secret to Idol was people got engaged with their favorite contestant and actively participated in the show. As people stopped participating, they became less engaged.

And if we are going to compare quality, the girls trump the guys this year, overall WNTS ratings for the girl is 52 and 45 for the guys, and we end up with 6 guys in the top 10 and 4 in the top 5.

If those ratings were all that counted, the AI8 final would have been Adam vs. Allison.

Of the 16 people who were the top 2, only 7 were ranked by WNTS as one of the top 2: Kelly, Clay, Fantasia, Bo, Jordin, Cook and Adam.

And Clay, Bo and Adam [the three top ranked men ever] all placed second and were beaten by lower ranked singers.

Based only on Idol history, the AI9 winner should be Casey — cute guy from the South. And since Texas is in the heart of AT&T Mobility country, he also has a text voter advantage.

I wouldn’t mind Casey as and Idol

92.3 (New York) has a story about Adam’s tour dates on their website!

http://923now.radio.com/2010/05/06/adam-….tes/#more-49205

92.3 has been really weird when it comes to Adam and his music. they have frequently had pics/videos/articles re him on their home page and WWFM is and has been listed in their top ten pop tunes list (its not their playlist, its from something else), but they have never added nor played WWFM even though virtually every other hac, pop and now ac station in the nyc area has had it in heavy roation at one time or another. I guess we will see whether they pick up IIHY, which seems to fit their rythmic leaning format a little better.

I have a question about those who supposedly submitted 10,000 votes at once and had them counted…in light of the fact that text voters receive confirmations for their votes, how did they receive confirmation that all 10,000 were received and counted? Was it one confirmation that said we received your 10,000 votes, or 10,000 separate confirmations?

I guess my thought process is that it has never worked and won’t work for Casey.

who supposedly submitted 10,000 votes at once and had them counted…in light of the fact that text voters receive confirmations for their votes, how did they receive confirmation that all 10,000 were received and counted? Was it one confirmation that said we received your 10,000 votes, or 10,000 separate confirmations?

you can’t send 10,000 texts “at once”….but you can send huge groups of them (like 20 -50 or more at a time) multiple times over a 4 hour period….

Allison is my fav. She is getting better and better with interviews and becoming more relax.

It wouldn’t have mattered if the three black divas were in the B3 if they were bad, I doubt Elton John was going to accuse people of racism.
The thing that made this an event is that they were so far away the best vocally of that bunch.

Not to mention vocally very *different* from one another. … It’s that fact that makes it clear to me that there’s a lot of voting (and vote splitting) on “who this person is” rather than “what this person sings like. To my mind, if there *were* vote splitting that season, LaToya should probably have split votes like Jasmine, since they were the lighter, prettier singers (LaToya a million times better); Jennifer should have split votes mainly with Diana, because they were the big-voiced belters; and Fantasia should have split votes mostly with … nobody. Because nobody else there (or most places) sang much in Fantasia’s style, although she sometimes did the big-voiced Jennifer thing, so I *can* see some vote-splitting between her and Jennifer or, indeed, her and Diana.

The same thing has been true for pairs of “white-guy rockers” and all the other race/gender types, to me. An awful lot of voting is unconscious looking at a package rather than actual dissection of — Oh, that *voice* or particular style is what I like — in my opinion.

This kind of judgment goes across seasons, too. This year, I keep hearing that Mike is so like Ruben. But, really, he’s a like Ruben in that they’re both heavy-set black guys. Their voices and approach are nothing alike, in my opinion, except for the fact that both sing some R&B. But, again, Ruben is an R&B guy, whereas Mike is a theatrical, multi-genre singer with an R&B twist. Really, if I were comparing him to somebody from the past, I see him as much more like a lower-rent version of Clay than like Ruben. Ruben’s voice and arrangement style are all subtlety and softness. Mike’s — and Clay’s — are the opposite. But we certainly never hear that Mike is like Clay, or like *anyone* but the other large black guy, as far as I hear.

The categorization and vote splitting tend to be on quite superficial grounds, and usually pretty much completely miss the point of the actual music, for the most part, across the board, in my opinion.

And I’ll admit I shouldn’t have stated that “white men don’t split votes” as an absolute truth.

I think that white men — especially in recent years — just have a *lot* more votes to split…. All those women and girls texting! And then throw in the guy voters who identify with them who add their lesser quantities of votes (because, stereotypical as it is, I have a hard time seeing a whole lot of power voting coming from the male side …)….

But, anyway, if you have a big base, you can split votes a lot more than the people (read: women, mainly, these days) who have a smaller base of people attracted enough to vote for them in the first place.

I don’t think people can peg the three, Matt, Kris and Danny, as just “white guy” singers that I saw on this blog.

Matt was more of a R/B soul jazzy urban type singer. Kris was more a singer-songwriter soft rock type. Danny is like one of those great old school belters who take a song and just blow it out of the water. They were all different.

Also Matt is not white, he is bi-racial.

Based only on Idol history, the AI9 winner should be Casey — cute guy from the South. And since Texas is in the heart of AT&T Mobility country, he also has a text voter advantage.

If Casey wins, Kris willgive up his place as lowest selling debut album. Well I take that back. If they market Casey as country he might do respectably. He isn’t nearly as good as Kris though.

And Idol producers should totally do something about the voting. What is wrong with limiting the number of texts and phone call to 10 or something like other shows? I totally believe that last seasons voting was askew. No one can ever tell me differently.

And the judges this year and last year gave away spots to singers who never should have made it(Tatiana, Norman, Haley V). Why they did not put Angela Martin through, I don’t know. I think she is at least as telented if not way more talented than Crystal. And Ya’ll are right about Jermain. The top 40 is so heavy with u rban pop stars. If they want a younger demo they should try to put out the singers that the younger Demo are buying. I don’t know why they would have a problem with a hip young sexy black guy. This drag of a season is all the judges fault. I can’t even blame the producers. I am actually looking forward to x factor. We should see a broader range of talents. And I like the judge mentor aspect. The judges have a vested interest in the contestants. though I wonder if the first season will be as amature as Idol’s first season? But we did get the awesome Kelly from that. I still love that moment when Kelly won and sang ” A moment like this”

you can’t send 10,000 texts “at once”….but you can send huge groups of them (like 20 -50 or more at a time) multiple times over a 4 hour period….

Okay, so how do those confirmations work? I’m legitimately asking since I can’t/don’t text votes.

People don’t know how Casey will do. He just might have a good career. Just if they sell a decent amount to keep them in music. To most of them it is not important how much cds they sell…if they are true artists. The majority of Idols sell more than other non-Idol artists who currently have cds out there. So all Casey needs is good sales…not previous IDOL sales. Especially now that CD sales are low, and people prefer to download…well younger people mostly download music. Older CD buyers will tend to buy the cds.

Only people who are more interested in money, and not music, care if they sell a trillion cds. Most are just happy to sell enough to stay in the music business. The real artists care more about their music then about how many cds they sell..and Casey seems like that type of guy. Even Crystal seems like that type of artist. Both seem like they are more interested in their music than the bottom line. Which people like. Yes it important to sell, but that is not the focus of any artist. Just enough to keep them doing their art and comfortable.

Why Tyler Hicks made $300,000 last year…and that isn’t too shabby.

Okay, so how do those confirmations work? I’m legitimately asking since I can’t/don’t text votes.

I would assume that you get one confirmation for each group of texts that you send,not for each individual text within the group….but i don’t really know..iirc last year on finale night people were complaining that they didn’t get confirmation texts until the next day, or not even at all. so i am not sure you can assume that the faiure to receive a confirmation means that the text didn’t get thru and counted….but again, don’t know, have no idea how you can actually send bulk texts (having never actually done it), just know in general terms that it can be done and the parameters in which it can be done…but the thing about texting is that there are no busy signals and you can set things up to just press send over and over and over….so even without the bulk texting, you can get a LOT more votes in thru texting than thru calling

Very quick comment on S4, since my fav is being mentioned.

There weren’t itune downloads durning S4, but there were skin downloads which kind of indicated the popularity of the idols back then.

Here is a chart that shows the skin downloads during that season.

(scroll down to see the chart).

http://www.imediaconnection.com/content/7462.asp

If that’s the case than Nadia Turner who was sent home before Constantine suffered even more, exiting at top 8 when she was one of the frontrunners just 2 weeks before.

As you can see Nadia was never the front runner.

Constantine and Bo did split votes, but according to this chart, Constantine held the #2 spot until his elimination. The spike past Carrie was the week after he was eliminated. It was then that Bo moved into the #2 spot.

The night Constantine was eliminated was the same night Scott had a horrendous performance and Simon told him to pack his bags. Sympathy votes poured in and kept him on the show another week. I have a feeling that’s the same thing is going to happen to Casey.

I don’t think I’ll ever believe Constantine was really consistently #2 in S4. I think Bo had more fans but they were more passive until his B3 appearance.

Sympathy votes poured in and kept him on the show another week. I have a feeling that’s the same thing is going to happen to Casey.

IA with this. I’ll be very surprised if Casey doesn’t go this week regardless of how he does.

Carrie’s going to be part of the Tim McGraw & Faith Hill’s concert to raise money for Nashville on June 22nd.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20367913,00.html

Many of country music’s biggest stars will band together for special concert on June 22, organized by Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, to benefit Nashville in the wake of its devastating floods.

“Nashville Rising: A Benefit Concert For Flood Recovery,” will be held at Nashville’s Bridgestone Arena. The lineup so far includes the husband-and-wife hosts, along with Carrie Underwood, Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, Brooks & Dunn, Miranda Lambert, Martina McBride, LeAnn Rimes and others.

Cookcricket, when i text vote I get one confirmation after my first vote. After that, nothing. I believe they confirm once for each contestant from each number sending the text. So if I were to vote 2 times for Casey, 3 times for Lee, 4 for Mike and 6 for Crystal, I would still get just one confirmation for each contestant.

One of the posters said Ruben was a low rent version of Clay. Say what? Are we discussing talent or socioeconomics? Both guys came from humble backgrounds with the only difference being that Clay went to college which has nothing to do with a singing contest. Talent wise they were pretty equal (just different styles) and so was the voting, Ruben won by a hair.

I find Big Mike a little annoying, but I have to admit he has an awesome voice. I just don’t see him as commercial. I’m not attracted to great big guys even if they do have some muscles along with the fat. Therefore I don’t really like Big Mike based on that shallow observation whereas I didn’t even factor it in when Ruben was on Idol. Have I become more shallow? Has our society become more shallow? Probably, sad but true.

That being said, I don’t see any of this year’s crop as being commercial in the pop field. Crystal in some type of alternative indie field, yes. Casey and Aaron in country, yes. Big Mike, R & B, maybe. Siobhan on Broadway (and I definitely don’t consider this a demotion!), maybe.

I think we have to scale down our expectations due to the 1. economy 2. slumping CD sales 3. less interest in Idol. That doesn’t mean it’s not possible to have a break out star from the Idol stables, just not this year. This year they will be lucky to carve out a medium sized niche. Aaron may be the post Idol dark horse, or maybe I’m being delusional. Time will tell.