Idol Headlines for 04/30/09

Perez trying to find dirt on Allison:

http://perezhilton.com/2009-04-30-american-idols-allison-iraheta-secret-past

It must’ve scared the heck out of him when he saw Adam was in the bottom last night.

Perez is a loser.

“Telemundo” doesn’t matter as long as she’s in the bottom three, huh?

Aww, Cookie didn’t make the most beautiful? At least Carrie did.

Picking on a kid Perez? Low.

RE: Applegate, Pattinson, Clooney & an Obama Top Peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Beautiful List

Joining him in their rightful place among the beautiful people are Nick and Joe Jonas,

I’m not really into the Jonas Brothers but that’s kind of embarassing for the excluded brother – Kevin.

ETA: ^ I kinda feel bad for him. He’s always left out. (I’m not a fan btw. But I do have a 11 year old neighbor who’s obsessed with Joe and Nick. Go figure.)

Wow. Pathetic, Perez. As if there’s never been anyone else on American Idol who has EVER previously competed in a singing competition.

It mustà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve scared the heck out of him when he saw Adam was in the bottom last night.

Wait…Perez considers that news? I have those videos linked on my Allison Iraheta page. LOL.

Jim Cantiello’s 60 second AI recap was LOL funny this week…. http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/377723/american-idol-recap-the-top-4.jhtml#id=1605360

Anoop’s Idolatry interview is up. He’s an Idolatry fanboi so he gets five segments. I think he and Slezak could have talked all day. I hope he never muttered “put the Go in Gokey” in his sleep or anything while he roomed with Danny.

^True that. Why is he so wols? I think VFTW dug that up way before the semifinals and they were thinking “if she performs like that again, i think we have a potential favorite”.

I saw this article as I logged into comcast.

Spoiler: ‘Idol’ Results Deliver Stunner

http://www.comcast.net/tv/eyeonidol/61934/spoileridolresultsdeliverstunner/

From KZL, a radio station heres some info about a charity event David A will be doing.:

We are having a charity event on May 27th. It’s our annual Celebrity Samurai Cookoff at Kabuto Japanese Steakhouse and David will be one of our guest chefs. We will be auctioning off seats at his table NEXT Friday starting at 6am and going until about 9:30am. You can listen to us online and call in to bid if you want. The number to call in and bid is 1-800-682-1075.
Thanks!

Haha, Ryan just tweeted this:

“simon is “premiering” his new house to randy and me today…GAG”

^ Ryan must be psyched about all of Simon’s sucess. /sarcasm

Does he really need another house?? One of his has a swimming pool the size of a lake. It’s crazy.

Allisonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s run on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  has been super impressive so far. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s had more à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“wowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  moments than judgesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ faves Matt Giraud and Danny Gokey combined. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Alone,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Papa Was a Rolling Stone,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I Canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Make You Love Meà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and, most recently, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Come Rain or Come Shine.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  With each performance, Allison reveals a new layer of musicality, understanding and maturity.

Jim…your Freudian slip of “Come Rain or Come Shine” instead of “Someone to Watch Over Me” indicates that you actually really like Danny Gokey this week.

After Ryan gave Kris his reprieve and Kris turned to hug Matt first, Adam took the opportunity to dash over to the slide guitarist’s amp and turn it off. (It was unclear whether Adam noticed the oversight on his own or was alerted to it backstage.) Glambert dashed back in time to give Kris the requisite hug, and we were into the next ad break.

So that’s what happened.

Well.. Anoop is very articulate and comes off very nice and funny. Slezak must like him a lot!!

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not really into the Jonas Brothers but thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s kind of embarassing for the excluded brother – Kevin.

I think they featured Kevin a few months ago in the Hottest Bachelors issue or something.

Perez is a douchebag of the first order. I’d rather spend an entire day with Danny Gokey than 15 minutes with Perez.

Loved Anoop’s Idolatry videos. Finally an interview for him alone. As usual he’s very well spoken and also not afraid to say what he thinks.

Michael Johns has a couple of interviews of the Good Day LA site.

I know someone was wondering if he’s still married and he talks about it. Yes they’re together but it’s been difficult with him travelling so much. He also said that Stacy’s business is doing very well and she did Kristen Bell’s house and there will be a feature article in InStyle in July.

All day with Gokey would have you throwing flour; insulting people in that it’s supposed to be a joke but it cuts you down anyway manner; making Lens Crafters hearts with your fingers and learning to scream the final chorus of songs. Fifteen minutes with Prez allows you to tell him off for being a muckraking SOB. I’d take the 15 minutes with Perez.

Wow Spense. An entire day? Talk about torture. They might have to do a Congressional investigation if you were forced to do that.

Don’t forget the pedicures. Gokey loves him some pedicures.

Oh, no, not for YOU, of course…just for you to WATCH his.

*shudder*

david a in the uk with the mcfly boys…..videos from the gig yesteday in portsmouth, at the portsmouth guildhall…. another stellar rendition of ”angels”, which has been very well received by the uk audiences, and touch my hand….

touch my hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVR99-GKmeg&feature=channel

angels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe_akSGeDR0&feature=channel_page

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d rather spend an entire day with Danny Gokey than 15 minutes with Perez.

Oh, you dont want to do that dear…….. :mrgreen_wp:

Ahhhh…Spense…taking one for the team. LOL Just think Spense you would get to see Gokey meditate, watch him watch the other Idols, and best of all….watch as he practices his pelvic thrusts in the full length mirror in the mansion. DAYUM girlfriend…jelus h8r is what I am.

Ahhhhà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Spenseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦taking one for the team. LOL Just think Spense you would get to see Gokey meditate, watch him watch the other Idols, and best of allà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.watch as he practices his pelvic thrusts in the full length mirror in the mansion. DAYUM girlfriendà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦jelus h8r is what I am.

Thanks, bax. I think I just threw up a little.

(btw, I’m pretty sure it’s not just one full length mirror…I have it on good authority that he’s got several set up so he can watch himself from every angle.)

Oh, and off Gokey for a sec…

Can someone refresh me on what the AI contract is thought to include for contestants who do not make the Top 13 in terms of timelines?

I’m surprised Jackie is already releasing original music – for some reason I always assumed contestants from those early rounds were still bound. Did I make that up in some fantasy world? Or does it not apply because it’s an iTunes album?

Well looks like david is doing a bunch of interviews in the uk today. well according to him and then some lady that works for sony/rca?? he’s doing one for bbc.. hopefully we’ll get to see that.
The paul o grady show aired today I do believe there were sheep and goats… etc lol

From the MTV article:

That particular critique really gets my blood boiling. Allisonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s quiet-but-goofy demeanor is quintessential teenage outcast. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no Jordin Sparks femmebot or David Archuleta eunuch. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s an honest-to-God TEENAGER. Weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve never seen the likes of a no-holds-barred my-hormones-are-crazy-and-Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m-gonna-make-a-joke-about-cutting contestant on the show, and her willingness to be herself makes me love her even more. Lack of a personality? Hardly. Lack of a phony, prepackaged bubbly self-image? You betcha.

Exactly what I’ve felt about Allison all along. She’s the typical kid from any high school in the country. Unlike some other teen from this show, she’s never made me think I’m watching some kid who just came out of the movie Pleasantville. You get the sense with her that even though she’s a “good kid” she can still act up like any 16 or 17 year old.

“Jim Cantielloà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 60 second AI recap was LOL funny this weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/377723/american-idol-recap-the-top-4.jhtml#id=1605360

Thanks kcf for a good laugh…this was hilarious. As much as I love Adam, I had to lol at this clip.

Why are so many people hating on Gokey?

Beautiful Baxter, you make me smile!

per a twitter update, david a is finishing up a full day of press in the uk with an interview with the bbc – cool :thumbup_tb:

not too bad for a teen from ”pleasantville”, huh? room enough for all types of talented teens in this world to find their niche… hats off to allison in her search for her niche, and hats of to david, for being able to span the globe as he settles into his……

Kylene, your understanding is mine too, but AI/19 can choose to release anyone from that provision if they decide they’re not interested. I think they did release Michael Johns last year before the allotted time, obviously much later than now but early still.

Thanks jane. That was THE best 60 Second Idol everrrrr! I laughed out loud.

Adam B. Vary supports the Gokey is a jerk message pretty stongly. Tell me again who votes for him?

Jim Cantielloà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 60 second AI recap was LOL funny this weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/377723/american-idol-recap-the-top-4.jhtml#id=1605360

That was THE funniest 60 sec recap yet.

Isn’t Perez Hilton friends with Adam’s “The Hills” friends, so yeah I imagine all his showbiz pals are in a tiz now. I guess Adam really was bottom three in the votes then.

Oh my gosh….I just watched Anoop and Idolatry! What a class act that man is and so truthful and forthcoming. No holds barred. Even though my daughter is all “involved” I really need to find a way to get them together. Not for her (ha ha) but for me…I’d love to have a son-in-law that is so articulate, cute, charming, funny, and handsome. Anoop, any other year and I would have bowed at your feet. Wish you all the best…and if anyone has a name for showbiz, its you!!

That Idol in 60 sec was hilarious! I wish they would load better on my computer, though. Most of the time they freee i up at least twice before it plays.

I just watched Jim Cantiello’s Idol in 60 seconds like 6 times in row. I’ll have to bookmark that one.

Anoop will be on this week’s Best Week Ever on VH1, Friday night at 11:00 EST.

4 more songs leaked from Kris’ pre-idol album

I haven’t had a chance to listen yet…

Julianne Hough says she will not be back on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Dancing With the Starsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for season nine.

Didn’t she say that for last season too that she won’t be back? or am i mistaken… i could’ve sworn she said she won’t be back for 8th season coz she wanted to be taken seriously as a singer or something. won’t be surprised if she’s back again for S9.

Isn’t that douchebag Perez Hilton a huge Archie fan? I guess a $100,000 purse from Star Search is okay, but $50,000 from Telemundo is a no-no. What an a**hole.

Isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that douchebag Perez Hilton a huge Archie fan? I guess a $100,000 purse from Star Search is okay, but $50,000 from Telemundo is a no-no. What an a**hole.

I don’t know if he’s an Archie fan so much as he pretty clearly wants to do him at the first possible opportunity.LOL I’m sure obscene drawings on DA’s photos aren’t too far off.

Perez is probably worried about Adam. If so, he needs to focus on Hokey Gokey, not Allison.

Actually perez has been pretty decent to DA. lol probably better to be on his good list than the bad list lol.
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evidently the sheep on the paul o grady show were frisky… LOL

DavidArchie:
Glad to see you guys had fun watching the Paul O’Grady Show Fun stuff. Paul was amazingly nice. The sheep were a little frisky though.

for some reason that just cracks me up. lol

I always thought the Perez/Archie thing had more to do with the fact that Archie is Latino and the rumors about Archie being gay. Or, maybe he just likes his voice! Since he’s turned on Allison though, I am assuming the Latino thing is dead. Either way I find it amusing that Perez is a closet idol watcher. LOL. Its okay to be an Idol fan Perez, come out into the light.

Adam still dominates the headlines, whether he’s on top or at the bottom. This really is the Adam Lambert Show this year. By Monday, everyone is going to be writing about what Adam will look like (toned-down or rock look), will he play it safe or rock it out during his songs? How Adam is going to sing his way back to the top! lol Man, last night must have been a gold mine for the show. lol

I have no idea why I like trainwreck reality shows. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=620kGqPDqU4

DA Selling sheep on Paul OGrady. lol

Adam still dominates the headlines, whether heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s on top or at the bottom.

:lol_tb:

Can’t wait to see Sacha Baron Cohen interviewing Paula. Now that should be priceless!

MJ, you’re breaking into new territory here… seriously… do you know anyone in PR who can work with you for the rest of the season? I’m not kidding. When the producer of AI responds to what you’ve written, it’s time to get a publicist! Go for it!!

ya’ll didn’t know – gay is the new ”black” in hollywood and the industry this year…. :bye_tb: lololol…. adam lambert is the odds on fave to win idol, and let’s hope his success opens the door and makes it more acceptable and tolerable for the more, shall we say, flamboyant and theatrical contestants, or gay contestants, to try out, and have the opportunity to strut their stuff on the idol stage…. time to retire the proverbial closet, feels too much like the back of the bus from another era – so go on with yo’ bad self adam lambert…..

I always thought the Perez/Archie thing had more to do with the fact that Archie is Latino and the rumors about Archie being gay. Or, maybe he just likes his voice! Since heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s turned on Allison though, I am assuming the Latino thing is dead. Either way I find it amusing that Perez is a closet idol watcher. LOL. Its okay to be an Idol fan Perez, come out into the light.

I think Perez’s love of anyone gay overrides his love of anyone Latino.

so go on with yoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ bad self adam lambertà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..

LOL Oh yeah, baby, You go!

Julianne Hough says she will not be back on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Dancing With the Starsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for season nine.

Didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t she say that for last season too that she wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be back? or am i mistakenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ i couldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve sworn she said she wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be back for 8th season coz she wanted to be taken seriously as a singer or something. wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be surprised if sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s back again for S9

You’re right. She did say that but changed her mind because they asked her boyfriend, Chuck, to be on the show and she wanted to be with him.

Exactly what Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve felt about Allison all along. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the typical kid from any high school in the country. Unlike some other teen from this show, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s never made me think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m watching some kid who just came out of the movie Pleasantville. You get the sense with her that even though sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“good kidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  she can still act up like any 16 or 17 year old.

Agree. She’s not one of those like Diana G. or David A. who have been in child beauty shows or endless talent shows. She’s not precocious or polished, she’s a teenager and we’re watching her become more polished each week before our eyes.

Allison reminds me of Kelly. Kelly was only 19 on the show (turned 20 before the finale) only a few years older than Allison is. She was a little more worldly than Allison, but not much. Kelly was also friendly, a bit goofy, and didn’t talk much on the show. I don’t know how many here watched season 1 (not the edited rewind version but the actual show) but does anyone else see the simlarities?

They both have amazing voices with an innate, natural musicality. Both a little plump and not classicly beautiful, both down-to-earth with an innocence about them (Kelly did have that too).

Kelly was more popular than Allison though, and was never in the bottom three.

from the cleveland plain dealer announcing a tour stop on the lovato/archuleta tour…. though it’s david’s picture that is included in the press announcement, lolololol… that’s happening more and more in the press releases for this tour… where david is figured as prominently/more prominently than lovato…… has this been upgraded to a co-headlining deal for him? inquiring minds, and all that jazzz….

http://www.cleveland.com/music/index.ssf/2009/04/demi_lovato_david_archuleta_an.html

Agree. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not one of those like Diana G. or David A. who have been in child beauty shows or endless talent shows.

Kelly was also friendly, a bit goofy, and didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t talk much on the show.

Alllson did talent shows too and Kelly babbled all the time.

Other than that, I do agree that Allison probably feels the most familiar to me of all the teens that have been on the show.

Phil Stacey’s thinly veiled venom (if veiled at all) towards Adam is really sick-making. Whether he likes the guy or not, taking joy in seeing someone in that position is just downright gross, especially from someone who’s been there before. Not very classy.

Having said that, sure, I would have loved to see Gokey land in the bottom two, just so maybe it would knock that stupid smirk off his face for a while. =)

Agree. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not one of those like Diana G. or David A. who have been in child beauty shows or endless talent shows. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not precocious or polished, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a teenager and weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re watching her become more polished each week before our eyes

Allison comes across like the average 17 year old girl, who happens to have an extraordinary talent. Her family appears to be just a family and not a group of stage parents and I think that puts her ahead of Diana* and David.

*In Diana’s defense I have to say she seems to have cut the apron strings and become the quintessential 22 year old female. She’s doing very well for herself. I don’t worry about her emotional or social adjustment anymore.*

Oh and I have to give Paula Abdul props for her support of PAWS.

“Crush” and most of Archie’s interview on The Paul O’Grady Show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehrkC4JOA-E&feature=channel_page

Both Paul and BBC say “Crush” will be released in the UK next week. Obviously it was pushed back–original release date was set for February but the timing is better now.

Archie did a bunch of interviews today in the UK (day off) with MTV, BBC (aired), ITN, APTN, popjustice.com and the Sony rep over there said there would be more he would be doing. He’s based out of London now so he’s doing press on days off.

He’s also a twitter addict now.

Agree. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not one of those like Diana G. or David A. who have been in child beauty shows or endless talent shows. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not precocious or polished, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a teenager and weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re watching her become more polished each week before our eyes.

I hadn’t really considered this before, but this must be the reason she’s the only teenager on this show I’ve ever really liked.

Okay – I’m going to have to take back the thing about spending the day with Danny. I try to make a little harmless joke and I return to all of my so-called friends trying to make me throw up in my mouth.

Bax & Ky – I assure you, there will be retribution!

I love Anoop’s Idoltary interview, with Michael Sleazak. That was the best Idoltary interview I’ve seen with a contestant and I am glad that Sleazak gave Anoop 5 segments. They were well used. I thought that Anoop was funny, intelligent, thoughtful, charming and articulate, in that interview with Michael and I love how they both seemed such at ease with each other.

I am glad that Anoop got a good amount of time to really say what he felt about his whole Idol experience and I love how astute and self aware that he is. I think that’s it’s really cool and interesting that he’s reads a lot of the blogs and message boards, and that he has a good idea about how a lot of people (fans and non fans) view him.

I hope that he is very successful, and I look forward to seeing him put out an album.

Part 2 of Archie’s interview on Paul O’Grady:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-51IY5RTsc

he’ll like london soundscene….. one of my favorite places in the world…. been trying to finagle a temporary work assignment there for the longest, lololol…. he’s doing the show at the hammersmith apollo tomorrow, correct? that’s one venue i would have loved to have been able to see… used to be the hammersmith odeon back in the day…. scene of a lot of good rock and roll spectacles, notably my lifelong fave david bowie’s legendary ziggy stardust ”retirement gig” back in the 70′s…. hoping he and mcfly really light the place up tomorrow….

I apologize in advance if it’s inappropriate to comment on a review/blog that is not mentioned on here, but I’m literally laughing my arse off right now at someone’s review of last night’s show (from Television Without Pity). My co-workers think I’m losing it. Excerpts:

So now Danny. He’s going to be on the left side of the stage, obviously… He sang the rain or shine song, and did a really great job with it. Simon loved his swagger and confidence, and called it outstanding. Ryan makes the mistake of asking Danny to tell them what he did differently, and it’s pointless and retarded and overlong, all at the same time. It’s like the stupidest thing Paula ever said met the stupidest thing Randy ever said and they had a kid that wouldn’t ever fucking shut up. Anyway, stage left.
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦
Natalie Cole is, according to Ryan for reasons I can’t explain, “very close to our genre this week,” which she isn’t, and now she’s going to sing a song from her album Still Unforgetttable, which again she isn’t. When I was a little kid I was obsessed with her jaw, and I still am. Her face has always looked broken, or unhinged like a snake eating its lunch, but between that and her weird Botox/stroke half-grin, and the fact that she’s dressed like a gold lamà © refugee from the Phantom Zone, I’m not even going to worry about it. She’s singing a song about “Something’s Gotta Give,” which of course makes me think about naked Diane Keaton, which of course gives me a monster erection like always.

Funny funny stuff!

heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll like london soundsceneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.. one of my favorite places in the worldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

I adore London. I want to move there. lol.

I love how the people in the UK don’t seem to have any preconceived ideas about David A. They take him as he is right now, rather than assigning him some false personality based on the high-stress environment of American Idol, which gives you very limited insight into what the contestants are really like.

Paul O’Grady mentioned that David was very poised and confident for his age, and that he loved how enthusiastic David was about music. The interview was really great–nothing new, but it exemplifies how well he does in interviews (and he’s done quite well since Idol ended, once all that pressure was off). The performance was great, and I’ve been seeing a lot of tweets coming from the UK about how wonderful he was on the show. They don’t care about the lame stage-dad rumors. They don’t automatically believe he’s a coached stage-kid, which he never was (being on Star Search when you were 11 doesn’t make you an industry kid, it just means you auditioned and the show thought you were good enough). All they care about is how he does in concert with McFly and how he comes off in interviews done at this moment. In the UK, it’s far more up to him how he’s viewed than it ever was when he was on Idol.

i think perez is just throwing it out there for controversy. but anyone who watches the show a) already knew! and b) can clearly see she is anything but a plant.

I’m going to see Archie tomorrow yeayyyyyy (I’m from London hehe)

Via Phil Stacy’s blog post:

“Adam was in the bottom three after confidently announcing himself as being in the top group. Funny.”

Am I the only one that can’t stand Phil Stacy’s blog posts? Why is this guy still relevant anymore?

Am I the only one that canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stand Phil Stacyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s blog posts? Why is this guy still relevant anymore?

Well, they’re pretty short, boring, and don’t really say anything or make you think. I’m betting peeps love them. :dry_tb:

They donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care about the lame stage-dad rumors. They donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t automatically believe heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a coached stage-kid, which he never was (being on Star Search when you were 11 doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make you an industry kid, it just means you auditioned and the show thought you were good enough). All they care about is how he does in concert with McFly and how he comes off in interviews done at this moment. In the UK, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s far more up to him how heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s viewed than it ever was when he was on Idol.

Hmmm….I’m not sure how you know what all the UK fans are thinking, but if what you say is true, then maybe Archie should move his career to the UK, since you point out that he is treated so unfairly in the US. That actually might be a good move for him.

Am I the only one that canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stand Phil Stacyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s blog posts? Why is this guy still relevant anymore?

I thought he did ok in country.

And come on… it was kind of funny that he chose the wrong group. Classic mistake. You can never win in that situation unless you do what Melinda and David A. did in their years. May not have been “original” but he would have come off better.

Hmmmà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sure how you know what all the UK fans are thinking, but if what you say is true, then maybe Archie should move his career to the UK, since you point out that he is treated so unfairly in the US. That actually might be a good move for him.

Uh… no.

Can’t get rid of the kid that easy.

And I can read tweets from the UK talking about how much they’ve come to love David even though they didn’t know about him before. I haven’t seen a negative tweet about his appearances in the UK. When I’m speaking in general, I’m not speaking about every single person in each country. That’s a given.

And come onà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ it was kind of funny that he chose the wrong group. Classic mistake. You can never win in that situation unless you do what Melinda and David A. did in their years. May not have been à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“originalà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  but he would have come off better.

I don’t think Adam looked bad. We were talking about this at work. no one thought he looked bad at all. Actually, we all thought its stupid to not pick a side. Adam is a risk taker so he picked a side. lol Now grant it, people who don’t like him will make a big deal out of it.

Am I the only one that canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stand Phil Stacyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s blog posts? Why is this guy still relevant anymore?

Remember, Phil is a Danny fan. He admitted many times in his blog before that he didn’t really care for Adam. So you have to look at the source before you either embrace it or get upset about it.

Perhaps I may be a little biased against Phil as I know he is a big Danny fan. Can’t help it….

I don’t really know what to make of the whole choose a group thing though. I kind of think the whole “sitting in the middle” is over played at this point. Maybe it would be best to just choose the group you *don’t* think you’re in (or that isn’t safe)…

edit: we aren’t starting this up again

Interesting article from Simon. I’m glad he agrees with me that last year was so boring and he even said it was like judging robots. Too bad it was done before last night, but he thinks Adam might be one of the best ever on Idol. Bet he’s changed his mind today though. I think Simon is a douche, but my dream would be for Adam to work with him. He could be big internationally. If not Simon or Clive, then I pray they don’t sign him. I just want Adam to leave next week (and I say this as a die hard fan) He’s becoming more mainstream each week by being on that show, and continuing this is going to hurt him. He’s got to keep some edge.

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I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam looked bad. We were talking about this at work. no one thought he looked bad at all. Actually, we all thought its stupid to not pick a side. Adam is a risk taker so he picked a side. lol Now grant it, people who donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like him will make a big deal out of it.

I didn’t say he looked “bad,” I said he would have come off better (less overconfident). If you’re an Adam fan you’re going to call it a “risk”–I mean everything Adam does is sunshine and rainbows, right? If you aren’t an Adam fan, or you’re just ambivalent, then the move kind of does look a bit overconfident. Everybody knows Danny is the front runner-Adam picked the group with Danny. It’s funny that he picked the wrong side.

Interesting article from Simon. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m glad he agrees with me that last year was so boring and he even said it was like judging robots.

Simon has selective memory (and changes his mind often). I’m not sure how this year’s group is more interesting personality-wise than last year’s group, especially during the actual show. Although this year the results shows actually air behind-the-scenes footage. Not AI7 contestants’ faults they didn’t do that last year.

This is the guy that continually defends Leona Lewis’s tree-like personality by saying she’s just sweet and shy. When it serves his purpose to put something down, he’ll do it–truth or not. If it serves his purpose to boost something up, he’ll do it–truth or not. It serves his purpose this season to put down last season. Same thing happens when every year Randy calls this year’s crop the “most talented group ever!” AI season 1 must have totally sucked according to Randy’s logic.

I’m sure Simon will deny ever having said that last year’s final competition show was one of the best he’s ever seen. But he said it.

Am I the only one that canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stand Phil Stacyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s blog posts? Why is this guy still relevant anymore?

I won’t go anywhere near that blog after the post today–can’t stand the smell of sour grapes.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam looked bad. We were talking about this at work. no one thought he looked bad at all. Actually, we all thought its stupid to not pick a side. Adam is a risk taker so he picked a side. lol Now grant it, people who donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like him will make a big deal out of it.

I have to wonder how people would interpret it if it were Danny in Adam’s place :innocent1_tb:

I have to wonder how people would interpret it if it were Danny in Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s place

They would have said he looked like an ass.

If you’re an Adam fan you’re going to call it a “risk”–I mean everything Adam does is sunshine and rainbows, right?

That sort of “my Idol is perfect! Watch me as I spin!” thinking is hardly reserved for the fans of Adam Lambert.

And of course, not all fans behave that way towards their fav. Just the ones who are over-invested.

If you aren’t an Adam fan, or you’re just ambivalent, then the move kind of does look a bit overconfident.

Hm, that’s a pretty broad generalization, I think.

They would have said he looked like an ass.

Again, with the generalizing. It’s a great way to bait and start arguments.

That sort of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“my Idol is perfect! Watch me as I spin!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  thinking is hardly reserved for the fans of Adam Lambert.

Never said it was.

Hm, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a pretty broad generalization, in my opinion.

If I had time to do a poll I would.

Again, with the generalizing.

Just basing it on what people have said online about Danny… a lot. He’s not exactly loved on the internet. It’s not hard to think that this wouldn’t be any different.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Adam was in the bottom three after confidently announcing himself as being in the top group. Funny.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I thought it was funny too. I would have also found it funny if Danny had done it.

Adam could have picked the middle as so many others have. But he really is like no other. It would have been kinda self defeating to pick the loser side, really. If you are going to pick a side pick the winners so Simon can’t bite you later with “you really aren’t in this to win are you?”"Adam, I see your confidence slipping, I’m not sure you’re meant to win this thing” etc. etc. If you are going to pick a side you must pick the winning side even if you sucked. The whole if you don’t have confidence in yourself who else will thing.

If I had time to do a poll I would.

Sure you would.

Like I edited in my post above. The generalizations just piss people off and start arguments, so lets not go there.

oh i dunno I was thinking he looked a tad over confident after deciding to hem and haw over it for a brief minute… was hoping he wouldnt choose… lol

oh i dunno I was thinking he looked a tad over confident after deciding to hem and haw over it for a brief minuteà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ was hoping he wouldnt chooseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ lol

Well see frogcooke, you’re speaking for yourself. That’s the key.

Ok, *I* (and my secretary and several other people in my office, and my mom and my Dad) thought Adam was overconfident, except the uber-Adam fan in my office who thought it was fine.

I don’t even care if Adam, or Danny, or Kris, or Allison wins, actually. lol.

I haven’t watched an entire result show since Alexis’ sing out, but the whole post drama thing brought me to you tube to check out the most talked about moments. Honestly, I thought Adam slipped a weeee bit-just a smidge of a twinge from me- but overall I think he handled that well for the most part. And I didn’t think Danny was cringe-worthy either. He seemed likeable to me, and not the devil’s poison. I’m not shocked that Adam fell in the middle of the pack. Looking back on the night, his performance was very good, but I think that Allison and Danny both gave performances that were excellent too. They were my top 2 of the night. I didn’t think the judges were being insulting to Matt or Adam at all. They were laughing because Simon admitted he was wrong, and I think they were relaxed because they knew that Matt was going home and that Adam was not in any danger. I thought it was going to be more dramatic than that but it was a tempest in a teapot.

I did find the judges insulting. Obviously they knew who was going home, so did Matt and to have them joking that Simon was wrong about him made me wince. It felt disrespectful to Matt.

I agree with Phil. It was funny.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even care if Adam, or Danny, or Kris, or Allison wins, actually. lol.

Of course you don’t. The season you cared about is over.

Now, you’re just baiting people. Please don’t do that. Criticizing the season and the Idols is fine. Mocking and baiting the folks who happen to like this season–or dislike David A–not so much.

They would have said he looked like an ass.

And that would have been a change? Danny is the designated ass of the season .

Truthfully, I didn’t much care that he chose or not. It was sorta exactly what I would have expected him to do, since he was put in the position to choose. I think that Adam wasn’t widely lambasted for it because he has behaved in a manner up to this point that shows him to be a nice guy. I think Danny would have gotten some flack because many think he’s a douche.

David A would not choose because that’s not part of his personality. Same with Melinda. I also think someone said that there seems to be an undercurrent of who really wants this. If he wants it, he has to think he’s the best. I think that the MOR answer Kris gave while it was in the affirmative, it was also not very convincing. I think that only people who think they really have a shot are Danny and Adam. Everyone is playing for second.

I know others are saying that he put himself in the bottom group. I don’t believe that because the top group will always have The Gokey. That is the theme for the year. This is Gokey’s thing to lose. I thought it was Adam because of the press and itunes sales (and talent). But obviously it’s Danny’s world.

Now, youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re just baiting people. Please donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do that.

No, actually I wasn’t. Baiting requires intent, and I had no intent to bait. I’m not even sure who I would be baiting. I had only the desire to express my opinion based on what I’ve seen and heard, like others have done. I’ve seen generalizations made on here numerous times without it being pointed out. I’m not sure how my statements were any worse. I’m not sure how my statements even broke the rules.

Now if that honest statement above gets me banned, so be it.

And that would have been a change? Danny is the designated ass of the season .

That was actually my point. I didn’t say I would have thought he was an ass, I said I think a lot of people would have because he’s torn apart a lot.

Oh I totally get what Simon he means when he says this group is more interesting. Last year everyone was well behaved on stage. They all got up and sang pretty then left. The only person who talked back was Brooke, and she provided all the stage drama with the starting and stopping. Oh, and Kristy Lee sat in Simon’s lap once. This year, you had Megan cawing (twice) and declaring she didn’t care about the judges, Lil with the stank attitude and talking back, Sarver arguing back – oil rig style, Anoop snapping at them more than once, Alllson totally spacing out during interviews, Adam just being Adam and freaking out mentors, the singing blind wonder and his nice guy sarcasm… they make great teevee in Simon land.

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I don’t think the viewers really care about who gets along and all of the drama. When I say viewers I am not talking about us, who are on the internet more than not, have an idol as our screensaver or wall paper (not guilty), have called or even named kids after an idol contestant. I am talking about the people who view it as a teevee show and not a way of life, lol.

That is why Danny rakes in the votes because viewers don’t put a microscope to every nuance, pairing and pelvic thrust. He’s the safe, obvious choice. He’s the George Bush of idol contestants. Moms want to feed him or possibly introduce him to their daughter (he is the marrying kind), Dads want to take him to have a brew, or to a prayer service. Adam is a wildcard. The wildest card this show has seen by a mile. It’s the freaking dating game.

have called or even named kids after an idol contestant

I just had to pop in long enough to say, REALLY? Yikes!

No, actually I wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t. Baiting requires intent, and I had no intent to bait.

If you say so.

I’ve requested specifically in my guidelines that folks NOT generalize about the fans who post here. You did it twice. Here:

If youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re an Adam fan youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re going to call it a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“riskà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’I mean everything Adam does is sunshine and rainbows, right?

And here:

They would have said he looked like an ass.

Whether you are being honest or not isn’t the point. You’re questioning the motives and putting words into the mouths of the Adam fans who post here. I edit posts for stuff like this ALL the time.

And the reason I edit is because the generalizing starts arguments, and I do not want arguments.

Adam could have picked the middle as so many others have. But he really is like no other. It would have been kinda self defeating to pick the loser side, really. If you are going to pick a side pick the winners so Simon canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bite you later with à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“you really arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t in this to win are you?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ”Adam, I see your confidence slipping, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sure youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re meant to win this thingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  etc. etc. If you are going to pick a side you must pick the winning side even if you sucked. The whole if you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have confidence in yourself who else will thing.

True…it’s pretty much a no win situation when they are forced into that position…which is why I feel so bad for him. I can’t really recall, but in past years was it normally the safe side or the non-safe side in which they were asked to choose? I know the last two years it was “safe” with Archuleta and Melinda…

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think the viewers really care about who gets along and all of the drama. When I say viewers I am not talking about us, who are on the internet more than not, have an idol as our screensaver or wall paper (not guilty), have called or even named kids after an idol contestant. I am talking about the people who view it as a teevee show and not a way of life, lol.

That is why Danny rakes in the votes because viewers donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t put a microscope to every nuance, pairing and pelvic thrust. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the safe, obvious choice. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the George Bush of idol contestants. Moms want to feed him or possibly introduce him to their daughter (he is the marrying kind), Dads want to take him to have a brew, or to a prayer service. Adam is a wildcard. The wildest card this show has seen by a mile. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the freaking dating game.

I’m with you abbysee. Simon believes drama matters to people, but I think AI is basically about watching young people try to evolve into stars, and hope they entertain you in the process. If you come across likeable and have a great voice, that is half the battle.

I just had to pop in long enough to say, REALLY? Yikes!

Lefty, it was my attempt at a bit of humor. But I don’t doubt it for a moment. I haven’t had a child since idol has been on the air, so I am not guilty of that either. Adam is a lovely name for a boy though! :help_tb:

Lol, believe it…. At work I have come across little girls with the name Fantasia. Maybe its due to AI maybe not..

kris isnt that bad of a name for maybe… a cocker spaniel or soemthing… If i ever get one… ill name it kris.

Adam is a lovely name for a boy though!

God thought so, too. And sorry I just couldn’t resist. Apologies!

God thought so, too. And sorry I just couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t resist. Apologies!

Heh.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure Simon will deny ever having said that last yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s final competition show was one of the best heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ever seen. But he said it.

I’m so use to Simon and his backtracking I just roll my eyes now. If Adam doesn’t end up being the biggest star Idol ever produced or set the world on fire watch how quickly he’ll turn on him when he’s pimping his favorite next year.

oh i dunno I was thinking he looked a tad over confident after deciding to hem and haw over it for a brief minuteà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ was hoping he wouldnt chooseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ lol

Oh I thought it was hilarious. Shades of when Constantine picked the wrong group the night he was eliminated. Yeah I know the old stand/sit in the middle is played out now but IMO it’s still the proper thing to do without offending anyone.

Anyone who has watched AI for a couple of seasons or more knows the Huff! I don’t think it has the “punch” it used to have. I can overanalyze the poor person left in the middle until the cows come home (do they ever make it home) and there is absolutely NO RIGHT procedure to follow. You are damned if you pick a side, you look cowardly if you sit in the middle of the stage (its been done already, move on) and Ryan is going to embarass you whatever you do. I hate results night. What they do to these kids is pathetic. I know everyone knows how the game is played but I don’t have to like it.

Lefty, it was my attempt at a bit of humor. But I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t doubt it for a moment. I havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t had a child since idol has been on the air, so I am not guilty of that either. Adam is a lovely name for a boy though! :help_tb:

lol abbysee. I just got freaked out thinking about a bunch of little Constantines and Sanjayas toddling around America. I’m sure there are folks who have done it, though, just as there are people who name their kids after their favorite athlete. My son actually does share a name with one of my favorite idols, but he was born several years beforehand so I can claim absolute innocence.

Re: the Huff. If I made it into the finals of AI, I’d start planning around top 12 week just how to handle that situation. You’d think they would all make a plan, wouldn’t you, because it’s inevitable.

Yeah I know the old stand/sit in the middle is played out now but IMO ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still the proper thing to do without offending anyone.

True. Or better yet, just let ‘luck’ decide. For example… (1) flip a coin, (2) ask each side to pick a number between one and ten and then stand beside the group that picks the closer number, (3) eenie-meenie-minie-moe, etc. :tongue1_tb: Kind of a cop out, but still better than deliberately choosing a side.

^^ see, Lys, I like those ideas! Doing something like that at least puts the Huffee in charge of the situation, and kind of makes the whole thing look silly. Which it is.

Re: The Huff. I think Adam was truly surprised. I’m guessing the kids thought they weren’t going to do it this year when it didn’t happen top 7. Heh. Nice fake out, TPTB. I don’t have a problem with how Adam handled it. I thought his nervous giggling was cute. But I’m a fan, so mileage and all that.

Re: Phil Stacy. I never read his blogs because they are poorly written and don’t offer much insight. I have nothing against him, though.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure there are folks who have done it, though, just as there are people who name their kids after their favorite athlete.

There was a thread of WordNerd and Arch Angel moms-to-be last year who were all seriously considering naming their sons David. If I remember correctly at least one of them actually did. Crazy stuff.

About the Huff – I think there’s backlash no matter what, but it seems like there’s less is you don’t choose. Has anyone ever flipped a coin, like Lys suggested? I would think that would be equatable to not choosing in terms of the fans’ (and nonfans’) reactions. Adam seemed caught off guard, and I take it he’s not much a results show-watcher, because it seems to me like anyone who has seen this go down both ways would definately not pick a side. There’s still some people who think you wimped out, but it’s better than having a lot of people think you’re arrogant or a jerk.

ETA: I feel like there should be theme music after someone says “The Huff,” like dun-dun-dun-DUH!

It was a pretty cruel trick to play on Adam as don’t they usually tell the person who’s doing the picking that they’re safe before they pick?

… although I can’t remember what happened with Constantine .. did he have to pick a group (I thought that Bo did the group picking that year)

So Adam being the picker probably presumed that he was safe so that was a bit of a sneaky trick to play on him.

Unless of course he thought that he wasn’t that good and picked Danny and Alison as he thought they were bottom 2 …. Matt did say in one of his interviews that Adam wasn’t happy with his performance.

I applaud him for having the balls to pick and in doing so he gave TPTB a bit of the “great TV” they love … but I kind of wish he’d refused to.

IIRC correctly it was Bo, and he refused to pick. I think he started that trend. That was my first season, so I’m not sure.

Since Adam has said he has watched all the previous seasons, I think he knew exactly what the Huff game was about. He just didn’t want to play it and decided to get it over with as fast as possible (knowing he couldn’t win). I don’t think avoiding the decision would have been any better for him, especially since the avoidance doesn’t seem to suit his character.

If you arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t an Adam fan, or youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re just ambivalent, then the move kind of does look a bit overconfident. Everybody knows Danny is the front runner-Adam picked the group with Danny. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny that he picked the wrong side.

Your options aren’t complete. Some of the empaths among us actually empathize with the man in the middle. I did last night with Adam and (before you say well duh you’re a fan) I did last year with Archie too (and I was NO Archie fan, as my screenname makes clear. ) I cringed both times, and I REALLY cringed more with Archie when, even after it was obvious when they switched Cook’s group, he remained clueless. It made him look stupid, and I hated it and thought it was cruel, and my heart broke a little for him. (Until Cookie saved him by sitting down with him. That’s my boy.) It’s not because he was young, vulnerable, or any of that crap. It’s because, well, I’m a sap. And I really don’t like that kind of set up, angst, mental and emotional torture for any reason but certainly not for entertainment.

So yeah, generalizations…

P.S. Obviously there’s a reason I hate reality TV. LOL Were it not for Cook last year, and that damn wildly mad talented Adam this year, I’d NEVER watch any of it.

And come onà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ it was kind of funny that he chose the wrong group. Classic mistake. You can never win in that situation unless you do what Melinda and David A. did in their years. May not have been à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“originalà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  but he would have come off better.

then he woulda been doing a “cover” or re”arrangement”…so un “artistic”

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How would any of the kids know who was getting the most votes, we don’t know, so how do they? Why would any of them assume Gokey was the highest vote getter, if you go on the internet he is not really feeling the love here. Allison has been in the bottom three how many times before?
Simon basically ripped into her. Adam told Matt he wasn’t happy with his performance. Matt was told he was brilliant and Kris was praised by the judges. Is there a small possibility Adam picked the group who he thought might not have done their best?

Re: Phil Stacy. I never read his blogs because they are poorly written and donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t offer much insight. I have nothing against him, though.

Phil’s a nice guy, but yeah, his blogs are pointless. And, they contain a few too many grammatical errors that annoy me.

Regarding the “Huff”. I hate it. I also hate that I have to call it the “huff”, because George is so sweet. Like weareallinnocent, I generally empathize with the “man in the middle”. It’s such a no win situation, that I just can’t hold it against any of them – whether they’re a contestant I like or not.

So, Ryan can keep pulling it out, but I’m not taking the bait. I won’t change my opinion of someone based on whether or not I like their reaction to such a contrived circumstance.

then he woulda been doing a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“coverà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  or reà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ arrangementà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦so un à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“artisticà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

:lol_tb: .. yes it would be so unlike Adam to follow the trend. Mind I didn’t like the way Ryan kind of manhandled him dragging him across the stage .. although Ryan’s probably been dying to do that to Adam all season.

.. yes it would be so unlike Adam to follow the trend. Mind I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like the way Ryan kind of manhandled him dragging him across the stage .. although Ryanà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s probably been dying to do that to Adam all season.

And on that note it’s time to call it an early evening. Nite all!!

Oh I totally get what Simon he means when he says this group is more interesting. Last year everyone was well behaved on stage. They all got up and sang pretty then left. The only person who talked back was Brooke, and she provided all the stage drama with the starting and stopping. Oh, and Kristy Lee sat in Simonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s lap once. This year, you had Megan cawing (twice) and declaring she didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care about the judges, Lil with the stank attitude and talking back, Sarver arguing back – oil rig style, Anoop snapping at them more than once, Alllson totally spacing out during interviews, Adam just being Adam and freaking out mentors, the singing blind wonder and his nice guy sarcasmà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ they make great teevee in Simon land.

I actually agree with this. The general thought here seems to be “last season was better.” And it was only in two ways. They were more marketable, and they were better looking. And when you have good looking guys, you get obssessed fanbases, and everything is X10… but I won’t open that whole box.

Either way, this season is more enjoyable to me personally, because they’re not so afraid to show their personalities. I think Danny is fun! Like those lame dance moves he did- it was fun! And Adam just goes for it. And you know Kris is my hubby. And Allison wears like the weidest clothes I’ve ever seen. For me, I enjoy people who seem happy to be there. EVERYONE was stressed out last year. It was like having 10 Matts on stage. Brooke was on the verge of a breakdown,. Carly (love her) was always so desperate, David A. was under pressure, Michel Johns was trying too hard, Jason couldn’t be bothered. For me, when I can see elements of your personal life seeping into your performance, it takes away from my enjoyment. I’m not going to enjoy a contrived performance. I can’t enjoy someone who isn’t enjoying themselves.

And at the end of the day, if you don’t enjoy a performance, how can you say it’s “good?” Even with Anoop this year, he was my guy, but then it became all serious and ballady and I was like “OVER IT!” And Adam… some of his performances make me want to pull my hair out, but you can see the joy in it. Even talentless Megan was entertaining because of her carefree attitude. And the fact that Adam decided to choose a group was like the icing on the cake. I’m SO SICK of people trying to be so politically correct. This year Adam chose, and now he’s getting flack for it. The sitting in the middle trick is old. I love that he picked a side. He was keeping it real, and not trying to fake some “I’m so humble face.” There is no such thing as a humble performer. Who the fuck goes out a performs in front of people when they think they’re shit? I see that as an oxymoron, quite frankly.

So big ups to Adam from me! (I still don’t want him to win, though). :p

Paula found out about the Bruno thing! :laugh_tb:

Ha ha.Joke’s on me. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Brunoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ tricked me. I have 2 say that Sacha is good at what he does. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll get him back:) You guys have any ideas???

poor ryan cant catch a break hahaha

EVERYONE was stressed out last year.

You know, I agree with you. I loved last season’s contestants, but man you could just feel the pressure they were under. It took its toll. And it kind of took its toll on me as a viewer because I started getting all jittery as soon as I heard the opening music each week.

I can see glimpses of it this season, but it’s starting much later than it did last year.

I kind of agree with Simon about this season having bigger personalities. Last year’s crew seemed pretty neurotic (Brooke, Carly) or just fearful of going all out. This crew is more into doing their thing even if it’s kind of revolting to me- for ex. Danny’s dancing/Adam’s high notes. Makes for more fun TV. After all reality TV always works better with “big” characters.

I also think the final 4 are more talented even though unlike last year I don’t have a favorite. And I’m also not that interested in any albums they put out.I’ m not even sure they’ll sell more units than the two Davids but the show seems to be more fun.

Philà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a nice guy, but yeah, his blogs are pointless. And, they contain a few too many grammatical errors that annoy me.

I could handle the bad grammar and writing style if he dished a little bit. But no. LA Times, you are made of fail. You should have hired Chris Sligh.

I honestly had no idea that many people read Phil’s Idol stuff. This is def the biggest response I’ve ever seen here to anything he wrote. If he’s smart, he’ll keep the Adam digs coming. I’ll bet that will increase traffic to his site about 1000%.

I also think the final 4 are more talented even though unlike last year I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a favorite. And Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m also not that interested in any albums they put out.

Yes. i actually agree with this. This year’s final four is more talented. Adam (the rawker) is better than Cook. Allison (the teenager) is better than Archie. Kris (acoustic guy) is better than Jason and Danny (R&B singer) is better than Syesha.

I know everyone probably disagrees with me, but that’s how I see it. An I’m so excited to see what they sing next week. Everyone is different, and they seems to have a true identity. Wouldn’t it be AMAZING if we had an Allison / Kris finale? I know it’s really unlikely, but I like that everything isn’t set in stone. Adam isn’t as much of a lock as some may have us believe (thank goodness).

About personalities… I don’t think they are bigger, better, whatever this season. S7 has some pretty great personalities. The thing is, they only came out on the show in rare moments. This year, we’re seeing more of it on the show, and I think it’s because the atmosphere is more relaxed this year. IMO S7 was way more intense, for the contestants, viewers, and staff.

Re: Spens’s retribution – first of all, you brought it up. Second, be gentle with me, I lost my boy last night. LOL This is therapeutic.

Now in regards to “the choice”. I’ll admit I probably would’ve called Gokey an ass if he had done the same thing and not been safe, but just in general I agree that it’s a no win situation. Adam in particular just sort of made me slap myself in the forehead in one of those classic “doht” foot in mouth moments. It was sort of embarassing for me for him, but I don’t think him choosing was a totally bad move. At this stage, with so few contestants left, they’re all good. At top 7, you still may have a couple of fillers left. By top 5, an argument could be made for any of them. And most fans, I think, aren’t naive enough to think their “frontrunner” is safe. My guess is that the Idols feel that even more, being that they’re so closeto each other and living in a bubble without a realistically good idea of what the rest of the world thinks about them – even the frontrunners.

And I apologize in advance for any typos or spelling errors, as I’m on mobile web on my itouch instead of my laptop. So don’t hate me for the errors, Spens. LOL

Be careful Kylene Spens (wasltp) is wily like a fox (the double entendre is intentional)!

I really don’t think the contestants were prepared for the “Huff” at this point in the show as they all looked really dazed. I do feel sorry for Adam. It looked like he just hought, what the hell, let’s move on and chose a side. Did you all notice the look on their faces when Adam was not in the safe category?

And I apologize in advance for any typos or spelling errors, as Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m on mobile web on my itouch instead of my laptop. So donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t hate me for the errors, Spens. LOL

Aw, you know me better than that

And, sorry again about the loss of your boy.

If you come across likeable and have a great voice, that is half the battle.

But for many of us, Danny does not come across as likable, or safe. I also do not consider George Bush to be a safe vote. He nearly ruined the country, he was the most dangerous and reckless president in recent memory. Maybe in the south George W. is considered a mom and pop/apple pie kind of guy, but I don’t relate to that analogy at all.

Yes. i actually agree with this. This yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s final four is more talented. Adam (the rawker) is better than Cook. Allison (the teenager) is better than Archie. Kris (acoustic guy) is better than Jason and Danny (R&B singer) is better than Syesha.

I disagree on all four counts. Last year’s contestants were vastly more talented than most of this year’s, and the top four were more talented than this year’s. I will say that Adam and Allison are quite talented, but more so than Cook and Archuletta? No.

Yes. i actually agree with this. This yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s final four is more talented. Adam (the rawker) is better than Cook. Allison (the teenager) is better than Archie. Kris (acoustic guy) is better than Jason and Danny (R&B singer) is better than Syesha.

I disagree on all four counts. Last yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s contestants were vastly more talented than most of this yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s, and the top four were more talented than this yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s. I will say that Adam and Allison are quite talented, but more so than Cook and Archuletta? No.

Wow some varying opinions here. Since I did not watch AI7 could you guys spell out why you think the way you do? You both make such definitive statements, I’m curious as to why you think this way.

Yes. i actually agree with this. This yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s final four is more talented. Adam (the rawker) is better than Cook. Allison (the teenager) is better than Archie. Kris (acoustic guy) is better than Jason and Danny (R&B singer) is better than Syesha.

Well, I definitely agree with this. This is the first year where I am actually curious about post-Idol work as well.

Well, for me its not cut and dry between seasons.

I can’t compare Cook and Adam. Adam is not a rawker, really. I’d choose him over Cook, but they’re nothing alike, so it’s like apples and oranges.

Hands down I’d choose Allison over Archie.

While I like Kris, I’d choose Jason over him any day.

I have no interest in Syesha or Danny, so its a wash. She doesn’t annoy me as much.

Yes. i actually agree with this. This yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s final four is more talented. Adam (the rawker) is better than Cook. Allison (the teenager) is better than Archie. Kris (acoustic guy) is better than Jason and Danny (R&B singer) is better than Syesha.

I know everyone probably disagrees with me, but thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s how I see it.

I agree with you on Allison and Kris. I think 10 years from now Allison will be vastly more relevant than DA, and I think Kris has a brilliant future as a songwriter and producer, if not singer. Castro I just don’t forsee having any longevity.

Cook and Lambert are, to me, equally gifted but in different ways. And I actually think Syesha is a better performer and singer than Gokey. She might never get a record deal or do anything significant but she’s vastly superior to Hokey Gokey.

Yes. i actually agree with this. This yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s final four is more talented. Adam (the rawker) is better than Cook. Allison (the teenager) is better than Archie. Kris (acoustic guy) is better than Jason and Danny (R&B singer) is better than Syesha.

Well, I really like this season’s Top 4, but I don’t think they’re any more talented than last season’s. Probably the only way they top last year’s bunch is in sheer vocal bombast/volume/power. But in my book,

Cook > Adam

(But barely. Adam is ‘technically’ better, but I much prefer Cook’s tone, style, and emotional transparency.)

Archie >>>> Allison

(Of course, Allison wins hands-down when it comes to stage presence and performance skills, but Archie wins in terms of range, vocal ability, interpretation, and innate musicality.)

Jason = Kris

(I adore both and refuse to choose between the two, lol.)

Syesha >>>>>>>>>>>> Danny

(Sy had her fair share problems in connecting with the audience, but she killed it vocally. Very underrated. Can’t say the same thing for Danny, unfortunately.)

Wow some varying opinions here. Since I did not watch AI7 could you guys spell out why you think the way you do? You both make such definitive statements, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m curious as to why you think this way.

Okay.

Adam is better than Cook because he’s not ordinary. While Cook came up with some impressive arrangements, the whole thing seemed one-tone. Take an R&B or pop song, and rock it up. Omg, OMG sooo orgiinal! And as I’ve said before, his voice is painfully similar to the guy from Hinder. Adam, on the other hand, isn’t particularly original, but you don’t come up woth voices like his everyday. His range and technique are through the roof. Not to mention that he brings DRAMA! Excitement! Entertainment! Good or not, he IS memorable and something different that idol hasn’t really seen before.

Allsion is better than Archie. In virtually every way. Technically, he’s a better singer- and by that, I mean, he’s had better training. But Allsion is a real performer. I could imagine her performing some “fuck you” rocker chick song at the VMAs. Seeing Archie’s peformance of TMH made it so much clearer. His performance was so childish- it reminded me of those talent shows we had in elementary school. And I don’t enjoy watching children sing. Allsion’s performances remind me of things I see by preoffessional artists on TV. No brainer.

Kris is better than Jeson because he’s more versitile, and he’s a better singer. Kris has a good range, good technique, and chooses things that fit him well. Jason’s singing alternated between mimbling, bad falsetto, and a strained, raspy full voice. Not to mention Kris’ musicality is supertior, by far. Jason never seemed that serious about the music. Kris actually seems to care, and puts a great amount of effort into every performance. Jason strikes me as a boy in a coffe show- one of those college shows with stoners strumming on guitar. Kris, on the other hand seems like a total pro.

Danny is better than Syesha because he isn’t cold (to me). I know the wife thing is controversial, but his personality just doesn’t seem that bad. He’s a bit full of himself, an a bit of a duoche, but overall, he seems quite goofy and likeable. Like that cool guy everyone wants to hang with. Syesha was a beautiful girl and wonderful singer, but her personalty left me cold. She seemed so… plastic and paegenty. Danny has fun, and seems pretty warm. And I like fun contestants, so that’s why he’s better.

…And I’m done.

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t compare Cook and Adam. Adam is not a rawker, really. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d choose him over Cook, but theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re nothing alike, so ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like apples and oranges.

Yeah, I actually would call them both pop with rock influences (Adam more pop though). But then I find rock so hard to define now. When I think rock though, my mind goes to garage rock or classic rock. Bring on rock week and we shall see how the contestants define it!

Thanks guys! I’ve just heard so much about AI7 and people here have strong feelings about it, I’ve just been curious why people feel the way they do.

The only season I could compare would be AI2 since it’s the only other one I’ve watched from the Wildcard on and the memory is a tad fuzzy cause it has lost some of it’s lustre for me.

I’m just thrilled, though, that Adam has drawn me back into this season because it’s a real treat seeing such talented performers.

Anoop is a class act – intelligent, talented, and nice looking. I wish we could have had a few more songs from him.

Allison is cool. No pretentious behavior; just a nice kid enjoying the ride. She has the potential for a successful career.

Adam’s group choice was no big deal. The “Huff” isn’t as dramatic as in the past. This will blow over quickly. I do believe he will be in the Finale.

Seasons 2, 4,5, and 7 rank much higher in talent and the flow of the show. There were just too many changes and erratic behavior this season. The judges had too much power with their manipulative behavior. Just my opinion.

MJ is destined for fame!

I’ll take Cook over Kris (singer/songwriters)
Adam over Syesha (actors/performers – when is Adam going to do a stripper dance with a chair?)
Archie over Danny (inspirational!)

OK, I can’t really find a basis for comparing Allison and Jason. Interesting hair? I refuse to choose, lol

I don’t see Adam as a rocker, even by AI “rock” standards. I think Kris does Jason better than Jason does, but Jason has the more interesting voice and I’d rather listen to him. Allison is light years ahead of Archie in performing and I prefer her genre. (although she might end up saddled with “young” material too)

Jennifer Hudson at the wrestling matches in Florida, watching her fiancee wrestle.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/30/jennifer-hudson-wrestling/

JHud and her fiancee, and Diana Degarmo and her boyfriend are creating some sort of American Idol-Pro Wrestling connection. Maybe they should do a tag team match against each other. haha

EVERYONE was stressed out last year.

You know, I agree with you. I loved last seasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s contestants, but man you could just feel the pressure they were under. It took its toll. And it kind of took its toll on me as a viewer because I started getting all jittery as soon as I heard the opening music each week.

I can see glimpses of it this season, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s starting much later than it did last year.

Keep in mind that in season 7, by the time they got to the final 4, they had 2 more performance nights than season 8 does at this point, and performed 3 more songs. In addition, season 7′s group performances were live, not lip-synched. That added to the stress factor. So, in my opinion, that’s why you aren’t seeing as much stress in this year’s group – their work load and performance season is shorter.

ETA: Cheese, I like the way you think. I agree with all of your comparisons between Top 4 of AI7 and AI8. That just blows my mind.

Has anyone been to Top Idol?! They are reporting the contestants second song for Rock Week will be duets!

My 2 cents on the AI7 vs AI8 top 4 contestants. I am largely uinvested in the performers this year, which I think makes me a little more objective (last year not so much).

The stars: Cook is way ahead of Lambert. He is a musician and song writer as well as a performer. Lambert is a performer and a shrill one at that. Love the tone and expressiveness of Cook’s voice. Lambert may have a greater ranger but he often hurts my ears.

The teens: Allison is so musically gifted at a young age that she has quickly become my favorite this year. She is just a natural performer, but would benefit from some polishing. Archie is a pageant singer.

R&B singers: I’m just meh on both Syesha and Gokey. Tie.

Singer/song writers: Both are my second favorites of their particular season. Visually, I enjoyed Jason’s performances more than Kris’s, but I think Kris may be a more talented musician. I would consider them tied.

By virtue of my enduring love for DC, I have to break the overall deadlock for season 7.

That’s quite interesting, adamandeva. I don’t follow Top Idol. Credible? Have no clue..

MJ?

I like this season better than last.

Adam> Cook
Allison> Archie
Jason> Kris
Syesha> Danny

Duets? Interesting, if true.

The stars: Cook is way ahead of Lambert. He is a musician and song writer as well as a performer. Lambert is a performer and a shrill one at that. Love the tone and expressiveness of Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s voice. Lambert may have a greater ranger but he often hurts my ears.

I think their voices are just different so hard to compare. It really just depends on what style of music you like. I personally find Adam’s voice more unique than Cook’s. There is no confusing Adam’s voice with anyone elses. Adam is a song writer as well.

But really, I don’t think you can ever compare them as they are just too different. Adam hasn’t put out an album yet or gone on tour, so it really is like comparing apples and oranges at this time.

I’ve not followed this season much except on MJ cause this blog rocks, so I am bias to season 7. but from the little I’ve watched of their vids,

Cook > Adam
Adam may be superior technacally, but Cook has better tone and music interpretation.

I love Archie and Allison for different reasons, and anyway, other than both of them being teens, they are obviously into different music styles.

Kris is slightly better than Jason imo, but personality wise, I like Jason cause I know more about him than Kris.

Syesha >>> Danny

ETA: I like your comparison Cheese!

ETAA: another reason why this season kids are more relaxed, they have no IGB. remember how tired the kids were during top 8?

If the Duet thing b/t the contestants is true then I think Allison and Adam should do this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaEkohQWhOk
just fast forward to about 17 seconds…its a great song, check it out.
If they do it I hope Allison can hit that last note…if not Adam could do it, lol.

Last season was in 2008, different era, different time..I’m so over it. This season is in 2009, and Adam lambert is my favourite of all 8 seasons to boot, so I’m loving this season. I’m in a minority as I tend not to dwell in the past, especially when my favs from the last season(s) havent necesarily given me anything music wise to keep me interested yet.

For me, The Adam Lambert experience pales everyone else into insigificance.Next year(if there is an AI9!) it may someone else, maybe not..I’m shallow like that, I’m never invested in anything more than the now.

Does that mean the contestants may be dueting with each other? :wacko_tb: That’d be kinda weird, I’d be very interested to see who would sing with Adam :jittery_tb:

Well I suppose I will give my opinions, since everyone else is:

:wub_tb: Adam :wub_tb: > Cook
Kris > Jason(only by a small bit, I like them both)
Allison > Syesha
Archie >>> Danny

I like 3 out of the Top 4 this year (everyone but Danny), while I liked 2 of them a lot last year (Cook and Jason), and at least respected Syesha and Archie’s talent. It probably comes out a wash for me overall, but I definitely don’t get as worked up about results night every week this year like I did last year. I just don’t worry about Adam, Kris and Allison the way I worried about DC, and to some extent Jason, so I guess in the end I have to pick Season 7 for my favorite Top 4. I also think the talent pool of the entire Top 10 was deeper and more consistent last year than this year. The only one that I really didn’t care about seeing in the concert last year was Kristy, whereas this year there are 4 or 5 of them that just don’t interest me.

I like this season better than last.

Adam> Cook
Allison> Archie
Jason> Kris
Syesha> Danny

Oh definitely this!!!! If I cared enough to reflect on last year, I would totally rate them like that

oh you think they will do duets with former contestants? hmm, hadn’t thought of that, idk there are too many…I hope that for the finale they can do duets with their favorite artists or something…that would be cool.

Has anyone been to Top Idol?! They are reporting the contestants second song for Rock Week will be duets!

Well, that would certainly help with time, if they pair off to duet with each other! (er, we are still being ripped off on 2 songs per contestant. and from the groupsings, they don’t blend well at all.)

I apologize if my earlier comment caused trouble The spin in here was making me dizzy, and I just wanted to point out that if your fave is the Huff it can color your opinion of the situation. To answer my own question, my reaction would have been the same, even it had been one of my faves Allison or Kris – I would be yelling at the tv “nooooo!!!! it’s a trap! DO NOT CHOOSE A SIDE!” and been facepalm with shame at the outcome. Of course that’s with 20/20 hindsight…

As for comparing S7 and S8′s top 4,
-for presumed frontrunner/AI faux rawk gawd I prefer Cook’s vocal tone and musical style to to Adam’s,
-for last girl standing/perennial B3 resident it’s a tossup between Syesha’s insane vocal talent and stage presence with Allison’s *likeability*, charm and immense potential,
-for the naive innocent with the larger than life voice I prefer Archie over Danny on vocal talent and adorableness, (horrid song selection ability is a tie), and
-for laid-back noncompetitive guitar boys who coasted in on their looks, I prefer Kris over Jason for cleaner tone, better musicality and (so far) holding up better under the pressure.

Oh well I guess I will play too.

Adam over Cook
Archie over Allison (Archie reduced me to tears, Ally not yet)
Kris = Jason
Syesha over Danny (by a mile)

From the Associated Press…

“I would have pulled an Archuleta and just sat down,” Giraud said, referring to last season runner-up David Archuleta’s response to a similar challenge.

I really like Kris and Jason both. In fact, the comparison is natural because they are both cute southern boys who give off the singer/songwriter vibe. For me, Kris seems to have more experience, but not necessarily more musicality.

Jason had two “moments” for me. Kris hasn’t had any, but some solid performances. He has great taste. “Falling Slowly” was an inspired choice, but he fell short of the original. I suppose it didn’t matter since it seems like most people didn’t know the original. I’ll agree Kris is more consistent and confidant than Jason. For me, he lacks the magic.

ETA:

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I would have pulled an Archuleta and just sat down,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Giraud said, referring to last season runner-up David Archuletaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s response to a similar challenge.

Hell yeah he would’ve. It’s a difficult position, and I see him taking that route.

Am I the only one that canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stand Phil Stacyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s blog posts? Why is this guy still relevant anymore?

No, you’re not the only one. Dear god, he’s even more boring in print than he was on television.

Okay, I’ll play the Top 4 match up game, too…

Songwriters/musicans/nice guy accidental heartthrobs/surprise frontrunners (Cook/Kris): Cook has a much more versatile, more nuanced voice, better stage presence (especially on uptempo numbers), and was more comfortable switching between electric and acoustic guitar. Cook has a better back catalog of original material by far and is an excellent lyricist. Both excel at honing in on the emmotional context of a song and performing organically and give good camera face. Both did well adapting songs originated by a female artist, although Cook’s ABMB was a bigger moment than Kris’s She Works Hard. Both are super nice guys and total mensches. Kris is a much better pianist. Kris has more hair and a head that’s proportional to his body. Kris is pocket size and easily transportable. Kris does not wear ridiculous elf boots or write messages on his hand like “Give Back” and “Not Penny’s Boat.” They both do odd things with their faces when reaching for money notes, but Cook’s money notes are, well, mo’ money. Advantage: Cook

Inspirational message singers/boo hoo backstories/ gets praised a lot for their vocals/instafanbase early frontrunners (D’Arch/Da Gokey): Both Archuleta and Gokey have distinctive tones. D’Arch I think has a bigger range. Archuleta was more likable and universally endearing. Danny is less awkward and more entertaining onstage. Danny never sang the words “my boo” or had to contend with stage daddy rumors. Archie never whipped out a harp, pointed to heaven and indirectly dedicated songs to his dead vocal chord causing much viewer backlash. Advantage: D’Arch

Quirky outsider/attention getting ‘dos/marched to the beat of their own drummer/on paper should have been gimmicky fodder but proved to be a real contender (Adam Glambert/Jason Dreadhead): Both have distinctive voices that people either seem to get or not. Both prove to be love them or hate them propositions because of their unique presence. Jason likes his guitar. Adam likes sitars. Jason plays the uke. Adam plays with makeup. Adam has more impressive vocal control and insane range. Jason’s tone is easier to digest. Adam has much better stage presence and can entertain like a mo fo. Jason gave better close ups. Adam gave more wow performances. Adam’s hair probably smells better. Adam confuses Kara, Jason confused Paula. Both embraced the tight pants, much to their fanbase’s delight. Adam took the tight pants to a whole other level. Advantage: Adam

Token chick who was a fixture in the bottom three but suddenly shot up in votes much to my consternation(Syesha/Allison): Both had a hard time connecting to the audience early on. Allison is more memorable. Syesha has better diction. Allison is cast as a rocker and does a pretty good impression of one. Syesha was cast as an R&B diva and did a pretty good impression of lots of things. Syesha had better hair. Allison is more likable and infectious. Allison is considered a more legitimate contender for the title than Sy ever was, but could still get Happy Feet’d out the door. Both were my least favorite in the top 4. Advantage: it’s a draw

Soooo I call the win for Season 7, by a David.

I LIKE ADAM’S VOICE…MAYBE JUST AVOID A LITTLE THEATRICAL WAY OF SINGING(a piece of advise for adam)…AND TO ALL ADAMS SUPPORTER PLS SUPPORT ADAM, LET US LEARNED FROM THE VOTE RESULT LAST TIME,BEING IN THE BOTTOM THREE, I know many of you believe he desrves to win..

I hate the machinations of season 8. I hated the semi-finals and the save. I think the top 12 would have been a little different if they had stuck with the old method. The fact that Matt (nice guy and all) got saved twice annoys the eff out of me, when better singers (Alexis/Jesse) got the shaft.

I still think it’s weird when people compare Adam and David Cook. Their vocals are so completely differently. If any American Idol, I would compare Adam to Fantasia–someone with a crazy range and maybe a bit more theatrics.

And BTW–I am a fan of both (Cook and Adam).

Sunchick….loved your comparisons. :jittery_tb: :lol_tb: :clap_tb:

Sunchick, I agree with your assessments completely. :laugh_tb:
You should fill in for Phil some time. Show him how it’s done!

LOL!! Sunchick, kudos. Best matchup ever. I totally agree.

sunchick ftw! :lol_tb:

-for laid-back noncompetitive guitar boys who coasted in on their looks, I prefer Kris over Jason for cleaner tone, better musicality and (so far) holding up better under the pressure.

Ahhh this, lol..although looks wise, Jason’s def a looker, I’m sorry but i find nothing hot about Kris, but others obviously do so i get your assessment.

However Castro had some moments and some of his renditions are still named the best of that season.IMO Kris hasnt, he’s a bland watered down Castro, but yes, can seem to handle the pressure a bit more @ this stage of the competition.

And BTWà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’I am a fan of both (Cook and Adam).

So am I, and they are different, but we’re making comparisons based on “Oh Season 7 vs Season 8″ , so understand pairing them, even though to me, they are very different, yep

@ Sunchick…wow :lol_tb: :lol_tb:

BTW, Adam rocks eyeliner better than David Cook ever could!

I would have pulled an Archuleta and just sat down,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Giraud said, referring to last season runner-up David Archuletaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s response to a similar challenge

I hope I never have to see a grown up sit on the floor of an AI stage ever again. tell Ryan to go fuck himself or pick a side, Doolittle and Archie schticks are sooo over!

Chipmunk–

I agree. I’m sure each one of them knew or at least thought they knew. At least Adam man’d up and just went with it.

ETA: Not to be cruel, but if Matty G was asked (at this given week) I think it probably would have been obvious…Adam’s decision was NOT so obvious…in fact I feel like he was sort of tricked into his decision.

Not to be cruel, but if Matty G was asked (at this given week) I think it probably would have been obviousà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s decision was NOT so obviousà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦in fact I feel like he was sort of tricked into his decision.

Lol, exactly…Since he was doing the picking, he assumed he was safe, and yet he wasnt. Matt knew he was the weakest link, as I’m sure did the others, which he was, it was pretty obvious

If asked to pick a side, I’m sure Matt would have known he was part of the bottom three, but would he have known which of those two groups would be the bottom group, Kris/Adam versus Allison/Danny? I don’t thinks so. I would have gotten it wrong myself.

ETA: Ah, but I see your point. For Matt, it would have been easier to make the decision to sit in the middle, rather than to try to pick a side.

Has anyone been to Top Idol?! They are reporting the contestants second song for Rock Week will be duets!

I heard they’re doing one song themeselves and one with another contestant? Think what would happen if there was a Kradam duet. IDF would freak. :laugh_tb:

sunchick FTMFW!!! :clap_tb:

duets eh???

Sunchick, that was adorable. Though after your David/Kris description . . . I’ll take one of each, pls thx.

I guess Matt may not have loved Adam’s move! eh! It’s always a difficult position to be in.

I dunno if this year’s contestants show more personality, I know the AI show us more of them. But honestly, they all come off as a bunch of 15 years old having fun in a summer camp.

While Cook came up with some impressive arrangements, the whole thing seemed one-tone. Take an R&B or pop song, and rock it up.

Adam is a lot more one-tone on the show that Cook ever was. It’s true he took some songs and rocked it up, but it’s also true that he kept it country in country week, or kept it musical in musical week… he took a lot more risks. Cook went out of his comfort zone and impressed. Adam has not done that yet, and I doubt he will. Adam does 2 things and 2 things only, I’d call that one-tone compared to the different things Cook did. And while it was fun in the beginning it’s just not original or surprising anymore. To the point that everyone was expecting him to do Feeling Good and he did. This week Danny was able to surprise more than Adam.

I think the comparisons are wrong.

Kris should be compared to Cook. (Would you compare Lady Gaga to Cook?)
Both musicians. Cook kills Kris. Kris doesn’t have near the vocal ability or musical ability as Cook. Also, Cook can command a concert and stage.

Danny vs Archie for inspirational stuff. Tie

Syesha and Adam for power house singing. Syesha is fantastic, but Adam was more consistent and put so much into making each week different and trying to make his run on Idol a complete set. Also, like Michael Orland said it is very RARE to find a male singer who can go from chest to head to falsetto seamlessly.

Jason and Allison for their quirky personalities and style. Tie. But Allison is young. Jason did give 2 showstopper performances. Allison stands out more by being one of the few girls.

Has anyone been to Top Idol?! They are reporting the contestants second song for Rock Week will be duets!

Yeah. I saw that. She show is really desperate this year. That, and they are going to pair their final 2 choice together and give them the best song.

cay , that are exact the comparisons I would have made.

This whole discussion bring back a thought I had yesterday about Adam and the vote splitting issue.

Maybe the reason that a lot of people have other favorites beside Adam is that the feel something missing in Adam.

This week Danny was able to surprise more than Adam.

How did Danny surprise? He sang another ballad about love…… He sang it better than usual, but it was still the same thing…… and then he had the nerve to clap for himself. Oh well. To each their own.

No way can I play the comparison game between season 7 and 8. It would be 5 pages long and would jump all over the place because there is no way I could compare them 1 to 1. But I’ll try a little bit of where they are in my mind in no particular order and I’m only going to talk about them as “performers and singers.

Danny: For being 28 and “ostensibly” a music director I find him terribly naive, amateurish, clumsy, copy-catty, bombastic, with a very good voice (I do like the gravel) who totally looses me midway through a song.

Syesha: I’ve seen a hundred Syesha’s over the years. Totally unoriginal, very pagentry, no warmth, sings from the outside of herself and never lets me in.

Jason: Coffee club singer with a very good voice. Mellow to a fault.

Kris: Intimate singer with a very emotional voice.

Cook: Very good voice and range, I would have rather seem him pick another genre’ for himself doesn’t measure up to the “rockers” in my life, emotes wonderfully.

Archie: Technically masterful singer, fantastic voice, mature voice with a very immature persona, tries too hard sometimes.

Allison: Technically masterful singer, fantastic voice, mumbles and has diction issues, great stage presence, age not an issue when she gets on stage.

Adam: Can do ultra amazing things with his voice, melodic, love the theatrics.

If they would have been the top 8 of a mythical season I would have eliminated them in this order with Danny going out first and Adam left standing.

Adam to Fantasiaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’someone with a crazy range and maybe a bit more theatrics.

Fantasia is a performer yes, but she does not have a big range. lol

How did Danny surprise? He sang another ballad about loveà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ He sang it better than usual, but it was still the same thingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ and then he had the nerve to clap for himself. Oh well. To each their own.

Well, exactly. Both of them did things they had done before… the difference is that Danny did better than he had done before. At this point in the competition, where they have either peaked or they’re close to peak that’s more surprising.

I honestly had no idea that many people read Philà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Idol stuff. This is def the biggest response Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve ever seen here to anything he wrote. If heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s smart, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll keep the Adam digs coming. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll bet that will increase traffic to his site about 1000%.

Anything with Adam increases traffic/sales/ratings/ etc. Thats why he’s the center of the show this year! lol

Re: S7/S8 comparisons. The only two that I feel can be directly compared are Jason and Kris. I’ve felt from the start that Kris is a watered down, less interesting version of Jason. More palatable to the masses.

Re: The Huff. I haaate the sit down in the middle thing. Seems like something a four year old would do. Try that in a business meeting. The only reason it worked for Archie and Melinda, is that their personas were so meek that it was believable.

Re: Cook being more unpredictable than Adam. LOL I guess this is a big case of YMMV. It felt for me like every Cook performance was take an old song, start slow, work up to rock yell, and eye fuck the camera at the end.

LOL, you guys. What can I say? I always adored comparative literature classes. If you want to go one more…Matt/Brooke, the well loved by their peers piano players who wilted under pressure and will forever be remembered for their do-overs… (Advantage: Brooke.) :cheese1_ee:

If they would have been the top 8 of a mythical season I would have eliminated them in this order…

Oh, fun! My order, keepin it short and sweet….
Syesha :tongue2_tb:
7) Allison :hmm1_ee:
6) Danny :rolleyes_tb:
5) Archuleta :mellow_tb:
4) Jason :happy_tb:
3) Kris :thumbup_tb:
2) Adam :clap_tb:
1) Cookie :wub_tb: :smoke_tb:

Re: Cook being more unpredictable than Adam. LOL I guess this is a big case of YMMV. It felt for me like every Cook performance was take an old song, start slow, work up to rock yell, and eye fuck the camera at the end.

As opposed to Adam’s “unpredictable” yell, yell, yell and yell some more?

:wub_tb:

sunchick, you are AWESOME!

That is all.

As opposed to Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“unpredictableà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  yell, yell, yell and yell some more?

Which is why I said “this is a big case of YMMV”. Just saying how Cook’s performances came off to me. Obviously other people thought differently, or he wouldn’t have won. Or maybe that’s just what voters liked. Whatever. To me, Adam’s performances are not just “yell, etc.” at all, but different strokes for me, for you.

When I compare the 7 (soon to be winners, the thing they have in common is gigantic talent, huge ability to entertain, and the “it” factor. They’re all special, and exist in a rare group with very few members. I think that Adam would fit in with that group just fine. There are also several past idols who didn’t win, who would fit into that group too, notably Jennifer and Chris D.

How will Adam compare to the other 7 winners? He’s the most theatrical, he’s at least as talented as they are, he’s probably going to be a huge success. He’s the first gay winner, the first theatrical flamboyant winner (though Fantasia is kind of a “theatrical urban” singer).

I can’t really compare Adam to David Cook. They’re both superstars in my eyes, both incredibly talented, and they are very different singers and performers.

for the other top 4, I like Kris and Jason both (my heart goes to Jason), Allison and David A both (my heart goes to Allison), and I like Syesha but not Danny.

Last season I liked David Cook, David A, Brooke, Jason, MJ, and could appreciate Carly, Chikezie, and Syesha, oh and I liked Danny Noriega who should have been in the top 10 for sheer personality.

This season I really only like Adam, Allison, and Kris, so this season has been excruciatingly boring to watch, it’s only getting interesting now for me, now that my faves are left.

For me last season was one of the best ever, I love singer/songwriters and I love David Cook.

If they would have been the top 8 of a mythical season I would have eliminated them in this orderà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

This is fun

8. Danny
7. Jason
6. Syesha
5. Adam
4. Archie
3. Allison
2. Kris

(gap)

1. David Cook :wub_tb: