Idol Headlines for 04/27/09

I am laughing really loud at the tought of Allison fronting a Slash/Duff band and the bit about Adam really hilarious too.

It’s Allison’s 17th birthday today!

Great news.
Now after every performance by Allison we can all gleefully exclaim, “And she is only 17!!!”

I just lived through almost a whole Idolotry devoted to complete worship of Allison, without mentioning a single flaw. Now there is the Idolator story saying she is the only one who can sing rock… Seriously, Allison has the rasp down, but little else. She has been a one trick pony. Name a song that was a change up of any kind?

Happy birthday Allison! I hope you can stay long enough for next week’s Rock week!

6.1 million searches for Adam?? Wow!!
And that was BEFORE Mad World!!

Ok, I’ve stated before that I’m a number nerd, so……I googled this year’s top 5 and recorded the number of pages that were available. Here’s my findings. (Maybe they’re relevant, maybe not.)

Adam Lambert – 3,370,000
Kris Allen – 3,050,000
Danny Gokey – 1,140,000
Matt Giraud – 1,060,000
Allison Iraheta – 740,000

Season 7 Current page counts – with an extra year to amass additional news reports, etc.

David Cook – 21, 600,000
David Archuleta – 4,590,000
Syesha Mercado – 233,000
Jason Castro – 4, 390,000
Brooke White – 1,510,000
Carly Smithson – 302,000
Kristy Lee Cook – 370,000
Michael Johns – 3,480,000

Make your own interpretation.

ETA: Season 7 listed in order of finish.

Ok, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve stated before that Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a number nerd, soà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦I googled this yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s top 5 and recorded the number of pages that were available. Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s my findings. (Maybe theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re relevant, maybe not.)

Adam Lambert – 3,370,000
Kris Allen – 3,050,000
Danny Gokey – 1,140,000
Matt Giraud – 1,060,000
Allison Iraheta – 740,000

Season 7 Current page counts – with an extra year to amass additional news reports, etc.

David Cook – 21, 600,000
David Archuleta – 4,590,000
Syesha Mercado – 233,000
Jason Castro – 4, 390,000
Brooke White – 1,510,000
Carly Smithson – 302,000
Kristy Lee Cook – 370,000
Michael Johns – 3,480,000

Make your own interpretation.

Well the way you have bolded the names it’s pretty clear that cute white boys have some advantage in this competition.

Well the way you have bolded the names ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty clear that cute white boys have some advantage in this competition

:clap_tb: :lol_tb: :bye_tb:

Unless the search for Cook was somehow defined to only include “singer, or AI, rock-guy, etc.” that 21 million searches would include any and all David Cooks and not to take anything from Cookie, but that is a fairly common name, dontchya think?

No, when you search for “exact phrase”, the results are more accurate and it goes like this:
Adam Lambert: 3.590.000
Kris Allen: 572.000
Danny Gokey: 738.000
Allison Iraheta: 557.000
Matt Giraud: 608.000

Go to Google.com, search for the contestants’ names insides quotation marks, like “Adam Lambert” and you’ll see the results for yourself

The previous poster didn’t do this and his/her results will therefore include all the other Adams, Krises, Allens in the world (Woody Allen and Lilly Allen are pretty popular search queries i’d imagine).

Oh numbers game….what fun

You tubes…..Adam 4150, Kris 1660, Danny 1280, Allison 1070, Matt 917, and for the loosers Anoop 1130, and wait—hold your breath—Lil 55,500. (and no that isn’t a typo).

The Google numbers for: (all exact phrases)
David Cook: 3.540.000
David Archuleta: 4.760.000

21 million pages is a bogus number (it comes up when you search for DC without the quotation marks) because it involves any other Davids and Cooks out there in the world.

but the pages for someone like david cook, michael johns or jason castro whose names are very common may not be all that accurate. i mean we have a basketball player here in the philippines whose name is jason castro, heh.

but the pages for someone like michael johns or jason castro whose names are very common may not be all that accurate. i mean we have a basketball player here in the philippines whose name is jason castro, heh.

hardkandy….none of these lists, or searches, etc. are even remotely accurate since, unless you open every page or list you can’t positively identify whether the “listing” is truly the person for whom you are looking. That is why these kinds of numbers games are fun, a bit enlightening, but have no real validity.

Yeah none of this is 100% accurate indicator of their true popularity, but at least PUT THE QUOTATION MARKS IN when you search, it minimizes errors. Sorry for shouting lol. But clearly not searching for exact phrases would disadvantage Adam, because “Lambert” is a much rarer word than “Allen”, or “Cook”, as the initial numbers showed.

But as far as the internet goes, there’s no beating Adam IMHO

Weird…this is my google results:

“Adam Lambert” – 3,450,000
“Kris Allen” – 1,460,000
“Allison Iraheta” – 1,350,000
“Danny Gokey” – 935,000
“Matt Giraud” – 609,000

Then, I tried using Google Insights for search to see the traffic for just searching for their names in small caps no quotation marks like normal people would search on google. I put it in a span of the last 7 days only for the US. Here are the normalized results from 1-100

Adam Lambert – 50
Kris Allen – 7
Danny Gokey – 4
Allison Iraheta – 2
Matt Giraud – 2

Now, since we do know Adam has the most and the rest have relatively small numbers, we remove him and look at the next set of results:

Kris Allen – 48
Danny Gokey – 26
Allison Iraheta – 15
Matt Giraud – 14

I think these traffic results is a better measure of popularity

Kris Allen: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=“Kris allen”&btnG=Search

Adam Lambert: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=“adam lambert”&btnG=Search

Adam’s is around 3.4 million, Kris’s 570k. The numbers fluctuate a bit, but its the internet. Copy the whole links.

just lived through almost a whole Idolotry devoted to complete worship of Allison, without mentioning a single flaw. Now there is the Idolator story saying she is the only one who can sing rockà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ Seriously, Allison has the rasp down, but little else. She has been a one trick pony. Name a song that was a change up of any kind?

Hot Stuff. She rocked it up.

But I do agree with you in a sense. Sleazak is a fanboy. It’s only natural. Last year it was Carly, and this year it’s Allison. Sure, Allison has flaws, but people keep piling the praise because they feel like she’s underappreciated by TPTB and the voters at large. And it was like that with Carly as well. When TPTB doesn’t recognize you, folks like Sleazak tend to be more willing to get behind your corner.

As for her being a one trick pony… I don’t get that. EVEYONE is a one trick pony. Danny does the blue eyed spoul every week. Matt does the Timberlake wannabe ish. Lil did the diva belting thing. Adam alternates between OMG soft ballad, and then the screechy diva rocker shit. The only person who I can say is versitile is Kris, who has done pop, acoustic, soul, uptempo, played paino, guitar, went without, etc.

So I don’t get all these complaints about lack of “versitility.” How many artists in the real world are versitile? And even if they are, they always stick to the same shit. Cook was oh so versitile, and what did he do with all that so called “originality?” Make a second rate Nickleback album. Which wasn’t very good, really. Allison is going to make a P!nk-Lite album when she gets out. Probably more like Demi Lovato, since she’s so young. It fits her voice and her style. Why should she stray from that?

Yeah none of this is 100% accurate indicator of their true popularity, but at least PUT THE QUOTATION MARKS IN when you search, it minimizes errors.

If you really want to minimise error, then use the advanced search option, and limit the search results to those dated to within the last year or month, the results might actually mean something then.

Well, you all just proved my point. So much emphasis is being put on the google search popularity of Adam Lambert and how that must indicate where the final standings might fall. However, statistics can be “interpreted” in different ways.

Yes, I knew that putting ” ” gives different results. (In fact, when I put “Adam Lambert” into my google, I get over 9,000,000 which is more than the result with the generic Adam Lambert. Go figure.

And of course, there are more than one David Cook (there’s actually a lawyer on the web by that name), or Jason Castro, or maybe even Adam Lambert.

The point is, one can’t predict the vote results before people actually vote. That’s what makes American Idol interesting.

ETA: I was throwing some fish bait out on the water to see what would show up. Sorry MJ, I couldn’t resist, being I don’t have a “dog in this season’s fight” LOL

Google results vary among different countries. I get over six million hits with Google Singapore.
Yes ultimately it means very little. So watevs. I just like to see my favorite on top and leaving everyone else in the dust for everything so… LOL
Funny that Adam Lambert without quotation marks still beat the Allen’s extended families and all the Kristophers in the world though. Great fun!

I didn’t even know Camile Velasco was still recording. Good for her.. hope she’s improved.

Well, of course Adam has more searches than Carrie, he’s on the damn show every single week. lmao.

Kelly had an interview this morning with Johnjay and Rich, some Idol talk and From Justin to Kelly, theres also a little bit of venting from Kelly in the middle of the interview about magazine articles that get written about her.

part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udu0H8KsxW8
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f56M894ZfsE

Well, of course Adam has more searches than Carrie, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s on the damn show every single week. lmao.

Hahah Sometimes the common sense factor is missing.

Why are we talking about the number of result pages? A better indicator of popularity should be the number of times a contestant is searched for, right?

I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even know Camile Velasco was still recording. Good for her.. hope sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s improved.

She really has. Her voice sounds lovely and her stage presence has improved 100% since AI. I’m excited to see “Guava Jelly” won her an award, even if it is “only” a Hawaii Music Award. She’s signed to indie label Up Above Records.

ETA: I was throwing some fish bait out on the water to see what would show up. Sorry MJ, I couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t resist, being I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“dog in this seasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  LOL

And to be honest, I’d really like to reserve the headlines thread for news. Let’s leave the fish bait for the fishes shall we? Now peeps have to scroll through a lot of nonsense to get to the good stuff.

It’s my fault for posting that Carie vs. Adam article in the first place. I should have known better.

Let’s move on to another topic please.

So then, new topic ….. I’m curious:

Am I the only person beyond annoyed with this whole Susan Boyle nonsense? Can’t they just keep her over there across the Pond? Why is she stalking us every freaking day?!

Also – I might be alone in this as well, but I am hella jealous of Kara’s coastal Maine getaway abode.

There’s a really cute new David Cook vlog up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DTfY1ujaUo

DC posted a new Vlog

I’m still trying to adjust the the blonde hair LOL

ETA: HA! IndyMuse and I must have been posting the same exact time. He mentions the 60,000 that was raised for Race for Hope but since that was recorded it’s now something like 69,000. He must be ecstatic!

new topic – David Cook has a new Vlog up. I haven’t watched/listened since I’m at work. Maybe it’s about his dog which is now on tour with him; or him letting his rhythm guitarist/friend Andy Skibb sing lead on a song in concert in Tulsa, Andy’s home town; or his shocking “Deep Throat” tshirt that he wore at a recent concert.

eta: OK – sorry. I’ll go back to lurking. didn’t see the other comments

I was wondering, does DC have a new vlog up yet? :tongue3_tb:

I am also over Susan Boyle already, Spense.

Maybe ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s about his dog which is now on tour with him;

Awww….he is? I was wondering if he completed his puppy training. Does anyone have any pictures or videos of Dublin out on tour? Does Dublin get to meet “his fans”? Heh. What’s better than a cute guy with a cute dog!

Am I the only person beyond annoyed with this whole Susan Boyle nonsense? Canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t they just keep her over there across the Pond? Why is she stalking us every freaking day?!

I’m not quite sick of her, though they could stand to dial it back a bit. Ok a lot. I’m actually more worried for her mental health than anything. That instant fame thing has taken folks down.

eh, good timing DC!

I havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t watched/listened since Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m at work. Maybe ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s about his dog which is now on tour with him; or him letting his rhythm guitarist/friend Andy Skibb sing lead on a song in concert in Tulsa, Andyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s home town; or his shocking à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Deep Throatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  tshirt that he wore at a recent concert.

Sorry, he doesn’t address any of those hot themes. It’s just about the Race/donations, new singles and him planing to play in his high school. The only new thing is really the hair.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m actually more worried for her mental health than anything. That instant fame thing has taken folks down.

Yeah! And you can tell many people are already starting to get tired, don’t like her anymore, etc… One can go up as fast as they go down.

SpenserJ (wasltp)– I have have had enough of the Boyle lady singing Les Mis. Her smiling mush is everywhere. Kara having beutiful summer digs makes me jealous too. I can count, and even do calculus. I know the name of famous dance clubs in NY. I know the difference between a Travolta movie and a weekend skit commedy show. Despite all this, I don’t have a plush getaway abode. Life isn’t fair. I do have one heck of a great heroine though!!! Beat that Kara!!!!

Delurking: love the new DC hair. and I donated a little more to Cookie’s Race for Hope team (in honor of my father)

My 5 year old wants to “run with David Cook” — had to break it to him that mommy WALKS so we’ll be trailing along behind. Good to see a new vlog and I actually really like the blonde-ish hair, he is looking very fit and trim these days!

Am I the only person beyond annoyed with this whole Susan Boyle nonsense?

I don’t get her. I don’t get why she is a phenomenon. I don’t understand it. It’s beyond me.

DC posted a new Vlog

Awwww. DC! Is he blonder that I remember? Either way, I still like it.

Mac, here’s a grainy pic of little Dublin.

I thought I remember hearing he had Dublin with him when he returned to AI so I don’t know why it took him this long to have him at the shows. I know they have 2 tour buses now including a larger one so maybe they waited for that.

Speaking of Headlines, EW has two new Idolatry videos. The first one is whether Kris or Danny can beat Adam. The second is about Kara DioGuardi. I find them both interesting…see it here:

http://www.ew.com/ew/idolatry

Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s die-hard support is centered in country music territory, studies indicate, with Google Trends listing Arkansas, Utah, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Missouri, Louisiana, Kentucky, Ohio and Tennessee as being the 10 states with the highest per-capita search volume for him.

Wow, this is a little nugget from somewhere that got my attention! Adam is the big fave in some of the states where Obama didn’t win? These states are internally diverse, so I’m not going to make a lot of highfalutin’ generalizations about what people are like there. But so interesting that he’s not as big in NY, California, Massachusetts — states you would’ve thunk would be more interested and accepting, just culturally-speaking.

Now the number of times somebody’s name gets mentioned in print or gets searched online is not to be mistaken for the number of votes he’ll get on Idol.

What I see is that Adam Fever is so intense among many of his fans, that they’re going to go all-out on voting and overhwelm any opposition. There is also a rabid quality to some of them that I haven’t seen in a while — certainly not last year, when many people loved Cookie or Archuleta, but responded in kind to their sweet rapport and lovely sidestepping of any combative nastiness between them.

If you don’t like Adam for the crown, and I’m sorry but I really don’t because I just don’t enjoy his singing much, you’re apt to get a lot of angry crap tossed in your face on some sites from his many die-hard admirers. While I find that rather unpleasant, I also think it means that even if his next few performances are wretched (and I doubt that, he’s a very smart entertainer) he’s gonna win. It reminds of me Taylor Fever — and I think what might happen to Adam post-Idol could be what happened to Taylor: huge media splash, great-selling coronation song, but a lot of mixed response to his post-Idol album and a sense that TPTB didn’t know what to do with him.

Taylor is recovering now a bit, but IMO he’ll never be the “superstar” they wanted, and more power to him for that. I may be wrong that Adam will get a similar treatment, but that’s my gut feeling now….

Thanks for the picture Trina! How fun for Dublin to travel everywhere and meet everyone. He looks like a little chick magnet. LOL.

Here’s another pic of both David and Dublin. Lil pup’s kind of hard to see. Gotta love a boy and his puppeh.

http://twitpic.com/40ddv

Oh, and yay! for the Vlog. Love his new ‘do. He cracks me up about how excited he is for his “marathon”.

DC posted a new Vlog

David, hun, it’s 3.1 miles, unless you’re planning a victory lap of sorts. Guess he’s still thinking “marathon” for that .2 LOL.

I wouldn’t mind meeting Dublin. What a cutie pie!

Am I the only person beyond annoyed with this whole Susan Boyle nonsense? Canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t they just keep her over there across the Pond? Why is she stalking us every freaking day?!

I was over her the minute it started. What a bunch of contrived nonsense this Susan Boyle deal has been.

I don’t blame her. The way she’s been used by Simon and company has been so incredibly cynical, I feel sorry for her.

What made me shake my head was the backlash against her when she tried to spruce herself up. I mean, isn’t “We’ll only like you if you’re ugly” a different side of the “We’ll only like you if you’re beautiful” coin?

How bout her singing?

The truth is, her singing isn’t all that.

Just UGH to the whole deal.

She really has. Her voice sounds lovely and her stage presence has improved 100% since AI. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m excited to see à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Guava Jellyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  won her an award, even if it is à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“onlyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  a Hawaii Music Award. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s signed to indie label Up Above Records.

LOL. I’ve lived in Hawaii my whole life and I’ve never heard of the Hawaii Music Awards, only the Na Hoku Hanohano Awards, which are like the Grammys of Hawaiian music. Not that it isn’t prestigious–it just may show how out-of-touch I am with Hawaiian music (I don’t listen to it–I’m a bad islander).

Good for Camile, though. I’m glad she’s found a place in the music industry, and the Hawaiian music scene can be very lucrative.

Well, this is what always surprises me – David A. is very often at #1 on this list, both for Musicians and Celebrities – I think it includes all types of searches and youtube searches, etc.:

http://search.live.com/xrank/search?q=&p1=GenericXRankAnswer ScopeLink=”1″ EntityType=”celebrity”]&wf=XRankListEntity&FORM=X9X12

Well, this is what always surprises me – David A. is very often at #1 on this list, both for Musicians and Celebrities

Nobody really uses that search engine. It would probably take a couple of people searching to make something #1.

SpenserJ (wasltp)à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ I have have had enough of the Boyle lady singing Les Mis. Her smiling mush is everywhere.

Can I go on the record as saying I have never heard Boyle sing? I just never worked up the interest to click on the link. Couldn’t do it. So I guess I’m not missing much?

Also, I love how the Newcastle (England) audience is actually singing along with “Angels” – I wondered if they would let someone else besides Robbie’s song which is practically an anthem there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBmkVDgBsFc&eurl=http://www.snarkyarchies.com/&feature=player_embedded

Can I go on the record as saying I have never heard Boyle sing? I just never worked up the interest to click on the link. Couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do it. So I guess Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not missing much?

She has a nice voice to me, kinda sounds like that woman who did voiceovers for all the musicals in the 60s. I forget her name. She dubbed for West Side Story, My Fair Lady… like that. Not as great of course, but still pretty good.

from the seattle times…. more at the link…. score another one for archuleta….

David Archuleta in the U.K.: He sings Robbie Williams and they love it
Posted by Bob Payne

Chalk up another triumph for Season 7 runner-up David Archuleta.

Anybody who’s followed the nascent career of the 18-year-old from Salt Lake City knows that one of his favorite songs to perform is Robbie Williams’ “Angels.” It has the kind of message that Archuleta likes and along the way it gives him the opportunity to really belt out some soaring vocals.

The song was HUGELY popular in just about every country in the world besides the United States. There are Youtube videos of stadium shows in which Williams just stands there and allows the crowd to sing every word. And in his home country of Britain, the song is almost a second national anthem, resonating most powerfully around the time of Princess Diana’s death.

So jump to Newcastle, England, on Sunday night, where Archuleta opened for the band McFly before a crowd of about 2,000. Despite concerns in the “Arch Angels” community about whether singing such a hallowed song on its home turf would be a wise move, Archie did it — and the crowd loved it. In fact, some of the commenters on Youtube talked about being moved to tears by his performance.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/confessionsofanidoladdict/2009132172_david_archuleta_in_the_uk_he_s.html

I don’t find Boyle’s voice fantastic… of course I’m a big Les Mis fan and I’ve gone to several shows and have heard that song done much better . I mean, it makes for a nice lesson I suppose (don’t assume just because someone is homely that they can’t be talented?!) but… people will do the same thing to the next person like her who comes along, and I just don’t know how having her on the news and everywhere I look 24/7 is going to end up being a good thing for her. I am a weepy mushball and I’m pretty tired of hearing about her. It makes me feel kinda mean but…

I love the new Idolatry: The Adam vs. Kris is the new Adam vs. Danny Finale! Kradam FTW!

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/04/danny-gokey-ada.html

SIMON PRAISED KRIS!!!! It’s on tvguidemagazine.com! Check it out.

Who has surprised you the most this season?
Kris. Better than I thought. Adam, we knew he was great and Danny, we knew he was great. But seven weeks ago, nobody would have predicted the possibility that the third place is Kris. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just quietly got on with the job. He didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get the praise he should have gotten last week because of the cockup with the timing. I would have really, really given him a confidence boost.

link: http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/feature/exclusive-simon-cowell-answers-your-questions-847.html

But seven weeks ago, nobody would have predicted the possibility that the third place is Kris.

Third place ?? Boo!

If you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like Adam for the crown, and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sorry but I really donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t because I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t enjoy his singing much, youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re apt to get a lot of angry crap tossed in your face on some sites from his many die-hard admirers.

I like Adam, but I promise not to throw any angry crap in your face

LOL MrRJ, you always make me laugh.

Actually, I have yet to hear Ms. Boyle sing myself. Apparently, I was sick of her before she even happened.

But seven weeks ago, nobody would have predicted the possibility that the third place is Kris.

Wow. Simon’s just not letting that go, is he?

What is with Simon and Danny boy? Why is he pushing him so? It can’t be for cash because, while there is a market for contemporary “christian” music, that market is really quite small. Selling 100k cds is like super wow in that genre. I can’t see Danny being a pop star at all. PS (wasltp) –”Laugh” is my middle name.

But seven weeks ago, nobody would have predicted the possibility that the third place is Kris.

Top 3 night: Kris, darling, prepare to meet the bus.

Thanks for that SpencerJ! I’m going to hold you to the no-face-crap pledge.

Re: Susan Boyle. Often I see on youtube and other sites the most vicious dissection and tearing apart of some public person’s appearance. Since it’s all anonymous, I personally consider it a classic case for what Freud called “projection” — plastering your own raging insecurities on someone else.

I mean, the standard for beauty these days is so nuts that very few people can even get near it — rail-thin but buxom, unlined skin no matter what your age, perfectly done and chic hair, great legs, etc. And this isn’t just for the ladies — guys too (with some ab & pec stuff thrown in)!

To me, Ms. Boyle is a fairly normal looking unglam smalltime middle-aged person. But to the TV-watching world, she’s like someone from outer-space because we rarely see anyone who looks like her on the tube — unless they’re mud-wrestling on Jerry Springer or something.

Her singing is almost beside the point, but it won’t be for long. It’s really depressing to think that it was a shock for some that vocal ability has nothing to do with glam. That was insulting to the entire human race IMO. But it’s still a contest, and she is unlikely to be the best singer. In the meantime, it was a revealing moment psychoanalytically speaking, but I’m over it too….

To me, Ms. Boyle is a fairly normal looking unglam smalltime middle-aged person. But to the TV-watching world, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like someone from outer-space because we rarely see anyone who looks like her on the tube à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  unless theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re mud-wrestling on Jerry Springer or something.

LOL – I love this whole paragraph.

I mean, the standard for beauty these days is so nuts that very few people can even get near it à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  rail-thin but buxom, unlined skin no matter what your age, perfectly done and chic hair, great legs, etc. And this isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t just for the ladies à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  guys too (with some ab & pec stuff thrown in)!

Ugh. I hear ya. Because I send my kids to private school, I am routinely exposed to a disproportionate amount of women desperately trying to achieve the title of “hot mom”. Women under 35 getting botox because they believe it will save them from a facelift later, women under 40 already getting their eyes done. Recently, I was at a dinner event where of the 12 women at the table, only 2 of us had our original boobs (in fairness, I’ll point out that genetics smiled on my in the ta tas department so I would have no need for this procedure).

There is a whole lot of slicing and dicing going on these days, and the women going under the knife get younger and younger each day. I know women who between facials, manicures, hair, additional skin treatments, etc. spend more than $500 a month just on appearance maintenance. Now, there’s nothing wrong with wanting to look good. But, sometimes, I think the bar is just set impossibly high.

Top 3 night: Kris, darling, prepare to meet the bus.

I think Simon is just starting to pimp Kris in order to set up an underdog scenario and get Kris’ fan base going. So I am still thinking (hoping) that it will be Danny that is thrown under that bus! What better publicity than to have one of the favorites eliminated and replaced by one of the humble underdogs.

Those were some nice words Simon said about Kris though. He really IS a huge surprise and the epitome of a dark horse. I think Simon nailed it when he said he quietly just got it done. Very quietly, without all the massive publicity and OTT pimping he just kept working his way up. Poor thing is so getting a song about penguins though should he make it to Top 3 night..or Clive will be resurrected and give him Open Arms :laugh_tb:

Re: Susan Boyle. The other night had on CNN (I think Showbiz Tonight?) and there was this big thing going on because I guess apparently the “never been kissed” story wasn’t true, then they showed a clip of her saying she would never change her appearance, then cut to pictures of her with newly died hair and new clothes and people were calling in bitching her out, then they brought in some entertainment experts weighing in about how her story just maybe isn’t the fairytale many thought while someone else chimed in saying NO! She’s loved by millions and that won’t change! By the end of the segment I wanted to rip my hair out.

What is with Simon and Danny boy? Why is he pushing him so? It canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be for cash because, while there is a market for contemporary à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“christianà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  music, that market is really quite small.

I would laugh if Danny comes in second, but will not get signed.

Loved the DC Vlog. I am impressed that he has 2 buses for his band and crew that look to be the same size of the 2 buses that carried ALL top 10 for the AI Tour last summer. David Cook’s fans have raised almost $70,000 for the brain cancer cause and his personal goal page has raised over $30,000. When you add those numbers to all the people on his team who are raising money, the amount is very impressive indeed! WTG Cook!
Archie seems to be very well received over in England. The video of him singing Angels with the crowd singing so loudly with him was impressive. I am so happy for their success.
I am trying to get excited for this year, but I think I have figured out what is missing for me this year. Last year we saw a nice, but nerdy guy, come on the show. But he was not the best dresser, and he had a crazy hairdo. All he had was a great voice a and a guitar. But week after week, little by little, we had the pleasure of seeing a rockstar unfold right before our very eyes. By the time he took the crown his physical transformation was astonishing. He had the goods in terms of talent, but no real idea how to be the packaged artist that Kara so fondly loves to point out. Idol helped turned DC into whole package. Adam has come to the stage all professional and pre-packaged with the “look” and I don’t see any real progression. He is what he is. IMO, it’s getting boring. At least with Kris we see progression. I am crossing my fingers for Kris to pull a David Cook and come out on top!

Thanks for the link to Simon’s compliment about Kris. It sounded as if he respected Kris a lot for just getting it done. Gosh, would love to hear Simon get to voice this kind of stuff on the show. Soooooooo hoping Kris has an incredible performance this week so Simon can do a little philosophizing about how Kris has just been so consistent, and do little clap and say, “Very good!” like he did after “To Make You Feel My Love” (or was it “How Sweet It Is”?)

then they brought in some entertainment experts weighing in about how her story just maybe isn’t the fairytale many thought

Noooo! LOL. It’s also come out that she was scouted by the BGT producers. She didn’t just drop in to audition…

Gosh my kids go to private school. I am gonna have to pay more attention to the mom’s chests! I am glad my heroine is “blessed.”

I don’t know….

Simon had a chance to give Kris that “confidence boost” Disco week, and it got lost in the fray. Maybe this week, since he’s due to go at or near the end of the show.

Noooo! LOL. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also come out that she was scouted by the BGT producers. She didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t just drop in to auditionà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I wouldn’t be surprised that when people realize they’ve been duped to care about this woman, the backlash would be big.

I think Simon is just starting to pimp Kris in order to set up an underdog scenario and get Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ fan base going. So I am still thinking (hoping) that it will be Danny that is thrown under that bus! What better publicity than to have one of the favorites eliminated and replaced by one of the humble underdogs.

I really hope you’re right. I do remember Simon last year mentioning how he liked DC because after DA’s “Imagine”, DC was the only one (in Simon’s opinion) who came out and really tried to win the thing (with “Hello”, if I’m remembering correctly). Maybe Simon will have similar words for Kris. One can hope!

Kris has really grown on me. Even after he made the Top 13, he really didn’t register with me. But I’ve found myself enjoying quite a few of his performances. He’s been consistent and he’s just so darn likeable.

I’m glad to see that Simon is finally giving him some credit.

It’s cool that Simon picked ‘Mad World’ as one of the best when asked about the best performance in all 8 seasons. There were a lot he could have mentioned.

I liked that he mentioned Tamyra Gray too.

Seriously….Spense and MrRJ…GET A ROOM!!!…sniff sniff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XrHrSRpkHc

New Adam Upright video released today!

Kiss From A Rose!

I bet the Upright guys will release the Prince song video before the Finale if it doesn’t clear!

Wow bax…you exist! You have not commented on the poems sent your way.

I am wondering why Simon sees fit to go out and influence people with his opinions outside of the show. Could it be they would rather sign Kris than Go Go Gokey? Hmmmm….

Kris has really grown on me.

Me too! I wasn’t a fan at the beginning at all. Just within the last couple of weeks, he has gotten my attention. I am still on board the Adam train, but I would love to see Adam, Kris and Allison in the top 3. Either Kris or Allison in the finale would be OK with me. I usually think that Simon is spot on with his picks for each season (they may not be my favorites, but I see why he is picking them), but I am just not understanding the Danny love at all. I still hope he is setting him up for a big fall. Simon started his de-pimping with Danny last week, it will be interesting to see if he continues this week.

Matt is VTFW’s new pick! lol

neat little commercial for demi’s tour and they a snip of david in it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2eSakWyVhc

Speaking of Susan Boyle, there was an article in Newsday last Friday about. What got me was Rosie O’Donnell’s ridiculous comment.

Less flattering, if equally well-intentioned, were words from another native Long Islander: It was like “Shrek comes to life,” Rosie O’Donnell told People mag this week. The outspoken comedian, who has been on Boyle’s side of the frump, said “that moment is what every artist tries to capture. Here is this freaky miss, a fat, ugly girl, directing energy towards her soul. This was so rare . . . something authentic in a world that is usually manufactured. It was a perfect moment which will never happen again.” Sad, and probably true.

So ya got one freaky fat ugly girl trying to give a backhanded compliment. Rosie only wishes she had the talent. God I hate that woman.

Link to the rest of the article.
http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/ny-etbuzzc2612675382apr22,0,1800629.story

Davids official site posted saying to follow him on twitter at @DavidArchie

A quote from the TV Guide interview with Simon:

Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s on your iPod?
Mainly classic stuff: Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Carly Simon. Bobby Darin, Nat King Cole. I love the old Mariah and Whitney stuff as well.

That explains a lot, like how Simon can think that a hit song like You Found Me isn’t commercial, and why he’s so bad at recognizing talented singers who aren’t diva types in the early rounds. Simon is in his late 40s, like me. Most of the artists he listed were popular in our parents day. His taste is old-fashioned even for an old guy. A new judge who listens to and enjoys music from this century would be a big improvement.

ETA: “Matt is VTFWà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s new pick! lol”

Maybe that will help put the Go in Gokey!

That explains a lot, like how Simon can think that a hit song like You Found Me isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t commercial, and why heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s so bad at recognizing talented singers who arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t diva types in the early rounds. Simon is in his late 40s, like me. Most of the artists he listed were popular in our parents day. His taste is old-fashioned even for an old guy. A new judge who listens to and enjoys music from this century would be a big improvement.

Well, I’m in my 20′s and I think Simon has great taste in music. lol

Yeah but for a judge that wants to discover a new musical superstar, it just doesn’t make for a case of being on the pulse of the industry.

No, when you search for à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“exact phraseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , the results are more accurate and it goes like this:
Adam Lambert: 3.590.000
Kris Allen: 572.000
Danny Gokey: 738.000
Allison Iraheta: 557.000
Matt Giraud: 608.000

Anoop Desai 629,000 hmmmm……..

Looks like David A. and Miley Cyrus’s duet (ok, technically it’s her character, Hannah Montana) is going to Radio Disney after all. Premieres May 2.

I think this means they pretty much have to release it to iTunes if they’re going to play it on Radio Disney. Otherwise, what’s the point? It’s premiering a day before the episode so it’s not going to get enough airplay to advertise the episode.

They better put it on iTunes or im going down there with a giant pitchfork…

and how have i been reduced to liking miley songs??? First the the climb, then hoedown throwndown and now this… *shakes fist*

David tweet:

Had a writing session today. Fun stuff! If the internet wasn’t so bad I’d post a blog. I can barely get this message out. Maybe tomorrow

Oops, wrong thread.

Kris has really grown on me. Even after he made the Top 13, he really didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t register with me.

He didn’t register with me until Grand Ole Opry night. And Simon is still late to the game

What I see is that Adam Fever is so intense…. …is also a rabid quality to some of them that I havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seen in a while à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  certainly not last year, when many people loved Cookie or Archuleta, but responded in kind to their sweet rapport and lovely sidestepping of any combative nastiness between them.

Are you kidding?!

I don’t know what MJ’s was like last season (I was new to all this Idol stuff and had only been to Rickey’s blog), but Rickey’s was NASTY last season! Really, really nasty, especially if you were a Cook fan (which I was)…

Those Archie Angels were anything but angelic. Mean, mean people. So mean, and nasty, many Cookies were driven away, never to return.

Anyway, to bring it back to this season, I have seen some Gokey hate, but well, hey, who can blame them? Ha ha.

But conversely, lots of anti-Adam sentiment going on too.

LOL Listen…

So mean, and nasty, many Cookies were driven away, never to return.

This. Me. Cookie. Driven. Fast. Away. Far. No. Return!

But it was as much Rickey fantarding as the (other) Angels, god love him!

But, anywho…. I recall the tension as MUCH, MUCH worse last year, but who knows.

Anoop Desai 629,000 hmmmmà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦..

Hm, doesn’t that disprove the whole “google results = votes” theory right there then?

[Kris] didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t register with me until Grand Ole Opry night. And Simon is still late to the game

Yep, that’s the week that did it for me too. So much for not getting invested in this season, lol. I can’t imagine why Simon is championing Danny. Maybe he isn’t but just resigned to his likely 2nd place finish, like a lot of us are?

OH, so maybe I wasn’t paying close enough attention to the hates. Or I forgot or something. Or it was just wishful thinking.

Let’s face it, kids: American Idol is a stress reliever for a nation under insane amounts of stress. So better to rail at someone you’ll never meet, than your own kids or your pooch, right? I guess…but wouldn’t it be great if civility became hip again? I’m just sayin’…..

Did a search with Google and have the result (using exact phrases) as below:

Adam Lambert: 3.810.000
Matt Giraud: 606.000
Kris Allen: 587.000
Allison Iraheta: 552.000
Danny Gokey: 738.000

Oh, and:

Anoop Desai: 607.000 :biggrin_wp:
Lil Round: 11.900 :neutral_wp:
Megan Joy: 2.940.000 :eek_wp:

Megan Joy…..that’s because there is a porn star with that name. Too funny!

oops….guess I shouldn’t know that!!!

But it was as much Rickey fantarding as the (other) Angels, god love him!

But, anywhoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. I recall the tension as MUCH, MUCH worse last year, but who knows.

Depends on what blog you went to as to which fan group you felt was “mean.”

I just have to comment on all these searches. Just because someone is mentioned on a web page, doesn’t mean much in terms of voting. It could be a negative mention.

Also, to judge buzz, google trends is better. Keep in mind that buzz also doesn’t equal votes. It’s just who most people are searching.

http://google.com/trends

It works better if you adjust to the last 30 days. Separate the kids’ names by commas (up to four at a time). You’ll see a graph of search activity. Adam is ahead, but that doesn’t mean he’s ahead in votes. It just means people are searching his name.

Like anything else, it’s an indicator. However, Syesha scored low on google trends last year and ended up #3. Believe it or not, some people who have access to the interwebs and vote never consider looking up Idol or searching for contestants. And yes, there’s that whole digital divide thing that someone brought up earlier.

Hey……You all have to see More Adam!–http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2F8tsmBrb8

True. But you see how much interest there is in Syesha now, and that Jason (who was among the top trenders and itune sales) has a record contract.

So, yes someone else might win the nice little crown. But if I were a contestant, I’d be more interested in creating interest and getting my name out there. After all, even the winner isn’t guaranteed success. You have to have people interested enough to check out what music you put out after Idol.

I doubt Adam will win, but he will have the greatest opportunity for success. (depending on the quality of work) Kris can win, have the confetti, and sing 5 sweet songs to close out the concert. Adam still will have most music critics, Simon, and much of the media thinking he was the most talented and deserved to win. He’ll actually benefit from the positive press and part of me would love for them to have to deal with another Daughtry situation.

Shout out to any Big Bang fans out there….I LOVE SHELDON :wub_tb:..and he was on the Must See list at EW and he is a complete Idol Geek..YAY!!

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/big-bang-video.html

True. But you see how much interest there is in Syesha now, and that Jason (who was among the top trenders and itune sales) has a record contract.

Oh, I know. I’m not saying it’s not an indicator of future success (or that it is). I’m just saying its not an accurate predictor of votes, which it’s not.

Thanks Bax.
It sounds like your music collection is like mine …eclectic.

PS

You have been missed

How bout her singing?

The truth is, her singing isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t all that.

Just UGH to the whole deal.

I liked her performance on the show, but when she sang on Larry King it was easy to hear that she was no Celine Dion. If some good things come out of this experience, good for her. There was just too much overkill in the media.

Always nice to hear good things about David Cook and Archie!

I’m pretty late in reading Simon’s comment about Kris. I guess other people discover the brilliance of Kris after a while because the beauty of Kris is understated. I bet Simon would have said something like he thinks Kris has a chance of winning Idol or something.

I’m one of the early ones that saw the it factor in Man In The Mirror. In my books, he went from nobody to someone I would like to hear week to week. My feeling was right and my favorite performances were the ones of Kris.

I still don’t get the Danny praise after losing such momentum. And I realized that Simon loves the high performance belters and he had big dreams with Lil Rounds including others like her with those big old voices like Mandisa, LaKisha, Ramiele and etc who just wasn’t able to keep up with the competition and disappointed him.

Anyway, read my in-depth analysis of the top 5 here: dcmjlive.wordpress.com

Jason Castro will have acoustic session Wed. at 7 ET on his official website.

But it was as much Rickey fantarding as the (other) Angels, god love him!

But, anywhoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. I recall the tension as MUCH, MUCH worse last year, but who knows.

Depends on what blog you went to as to which fan group you felt was à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“mean.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

FWIW, I only quoted someone who used the word, “mean,” it was not my word. But, I totally agree the sites differed tremendously, which was my primary point. My words were “fantarding” (Rickey) and “tension” (everywhere!) And I stand by them. LOL YMMV