Idol Headlines for 04/23/09

I hope to heck that if Kara is intending to quit that she does it ASAP so we can be sure to get two songs each next week!!!

Paula Abdul: No One Can Replace Me on à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢

Oh man. This just gets gooder and gooder.

“Well, I started her success. And I’m proud of it … happy of it,” Abdul said. “I moved a stranger from New York, told her to give two weeks notice to Billboard magazine and moved a stranger into my home in L.A.”

When asked if she thought DioGuardi would replace her, Abdul said, “I don’t think anyone [can]. First of all, Kara says, ‘I could never replace you.’

Holy Ego Trip. I never realized before how much Paula actually digs herself.

This caught my eye:

On his way out, he had to pass the remaining contestant dudes, and there was this really terrific moment where the four guys were huddled together and doing their very best to just keep chatting and pretend like last season’s runner-up wasn’t coming towards them.

Awww….. Don’t know how true was that.

Oh, Paula. I think she really feels threatened by the whole fourth judge thing. I don’t want her to leave, but she is annoying the crap outta me right now.

Dear future Idol attendees: Puns involving the words “Go” and “Gokey” put together in a way that indicates your positive feelings towards that opthamology nightmare are no longer of any interest to anyone. Do better. Unless you really do mean “GO,” in which case, by all means, fight on.)

I think this might be my favorite PopWatch sentence of all time.

That EW writer who did the “On the scene for Top 7.2 results night” is a total bitch. She’s funny at times, but still a PMS’ing bitch.

Spenser, I agree, that sentence is awesome.

Even though Paula comes acoss as having an ego when she says no one can replace her, it’s true. She’s Paula. No one will ever be able to fill that position on Idol. She may not be the best judge, but to be honest, they need her.

“I explained that we tell bad singers that they aren’t very good,” Lythgoe said, “and he (Rock) said, ‘You have bad singers on the program?’ ‘Yeah, yeah, they’re really bad.’” What’s more, Lythgoe told the Pepsi team that, “There’s this judge, Simon Cowell, he tells them they’re bad. (Rock responded) ‘He TELLS THEM THEY’RE BAD?’” Lythgoe said, “You could see the blood draining out of this guy’s face, ‘I don’t want PepsiCo involved in this program at all.’”

I don’t know why I think this quote is so funny, but it is. :laugh_tb:

ETA: About the Archie-snubbing thing in the EW article… It sounds more to me like one of those moments where someone famous is walking by you and you’re trying to be cool, but you don’t know whether to smile, say hi, or try to start a conversation so you just pretend to ignore them. I don’t think they were trying to be rude.

That behind the scenes is quite harsh with the implication being all the guys left on the show had contempt for Archie similiar to the contempt that he must have experienced in h.s. Well, I’ll just assume the writer is projecting her own feelings on them because she thinks it was a cool moment when they snubbed him.

I kind of doubt that’s the way it went down because right now Archie has a label and a career. And that’s something none of them is 100% sure of having one year from now. Or coming close to selling the amount of albums he has. So it makes them all seem like tools which I hope they’re not.

Hey hey!! I called the flipping Kara the finger in an earlier thread. I thought he had! Not so subtle Simon.

And I thought Paula was great last night. That was an awesome dance number altho not quite the earthshattering first it was pimped to be.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know why I think this quote is so funny, but it is.

LOL. Maybe because Pepsi, as they have been known to do for the last 50 years, made yet another crappy advertising decision when it came to their AI opportunity. This is the reason they always have been and always will be second place – they’ve got no balls.

Idolator pretty much sums up how I feel. An Anoop/Kris finale would have been perfect for me.

I wish they would rotate the judges every year. Yeah, the show would still be super-manipulated, but at least I wouldn’t be able to tell you everything that was going to happen at the beginning of the season. At least the manner in which they manipulate the show would change and maybe make it interesting again.

That EW writer who did the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“On the scene for Top 7.2 results nightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  is a total bitch. Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny at times, but still a PMSà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ing bitch.

You can tell she couldn’t care less by her tone. Actually, I think Adam Vary would rather do something else, but at least he has Smirkelstiltskin.

That behind the scenes is quite harsh with the implication being all the guys left on the show had contempt for Archie similiar to the contempt that he must have experienced in h.s. Well, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll just assume the writer is projecting her own feelings on them because she thinks it was a cool moment when they snubbed him.

JP- I think this lady is just projecting her dislike of David into the situation. The one report from a David fan I have seen from last night said this:

“It was cool seeing things that might not have been on camera, like Matt singing along (with David) and David shaking hands and hugging all the contestants before he left.”

BTW- I think this lady knows nothing about David Archuleta. From all accounts from friends and classmates, he was well liked in school. David was obviously not the school jock, since he was a choir geek and ran cross country, but even at the school talent show he did in 8th grade, they were clapping and screaming for him like they do now– guys and girls.

BTW- I think this lady knows nothing about David Archuleta. From all accounts from friends and classmates, he was well liked in school. David was obviously not the school jock, since he was a choir geek and ran cross country, but even at the school talent show he did in 8th grade, they were clapping and screaming for him like they do nowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ guys and girls.

I’m not sure with the snarky tone, these On the Scene reports are meant to be taken that seriously. Also, from everything we’ve seen of this group, the people in those chairs seem far too polite to me to snub anyone. Victoria’s theory seems pretty reasonable to me.

So it makes them all seem like tools which I hope theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re not.

See, that’s my problem with her account too. For that to have gone down the way she hoped it did, those four guys would have to be self-absorbed, egotistical jerks. Which I am guessing they are not. I also think she’s projecting onto Anoop when she suggests that he was snarking about Archie. I’m sure they were just all preoccupied with the elimination.

The ickiness for me is that she would enjoy even the possibility of a moment like that so much that she would call it “terrific.” I don’t care who or where it is, I hate to see people get treated like that.

I have always liked Adam Vary’s columns better. Whitney P does sound bored and she confuses meanness with snark. She’s just not very funny.

ETA: ^^ I THOUGHT I saw Matt singing along with Archie! But then I thought, surely he doesn’t know TMH. And then I thought, well, the lyrics aren’t exactly a challenge to pick up on quickly…

I’m not even a hardcore Archie or anything, but I wouldn’t worry about that little report. Even if she is snarking on Archie, it also sounds like she’s projecting a bit. I still have a few issues with Miss Whitney from last season anyway. I can’t see the other guys intentionally snubbing him.

I honestly think Whitney Pastorek’s interpretation of the guys’ reaction to Archie was just as valid as any assessment I may make about any of the Idol contestants.

I don’t know any of them, so I can’t say rather they were kind of shy about approaching Archie or not. That seems like the reasonable explanation. But, I really don’t know.

It’s sad that her observation and interpretation were so harsh, but she’s entitled to make an assumption just like I am. We all interpret things we see. She just happens to be writing for a national entertainment magazine at her snarkiest, boredest, meanest best.

As long as I’m on my little soapbox – Whitney P also uses the word “demonstrably” a little too much for my taste. I have no idea why, but I picked up on it last season and now it bugs me.

All of that aside, I did enjoy her story about Allison and the little girl.

Whitney’s entitled to make her assumption for sure, but isn’t Whitney the one who wrote the piece on the Top 5 for EW last season? If I remember correctly, her piece of balanced reporting was to make the Top 5 sound like complete tools with the exception of Cook, who she went overboard in glorifying. So while her reporting is certainly valid, she never really cared for Archuletta in any capacity and I generally take her snark with huge ole grain of salt.

Slezak is easily one of the funniest writers I’ve ever read. That man’s magical and seemingly effortless use of the snarkilicious spot-on metaphor and simile astounds me. LOL @ store brand paper towel pinch hitting for the Hoover Dam…

Whitney P. was alot funnier last year to me, but that may have had more to do with perspective. And by that I mean, she totally crushed on Cook, all the time. So, yeah if you ask me, she totally was projecting her own anti-Archie sentiment. Adam B. Vary is tons funnier this year, I agree.

If I remember correctly, her piece of balanced reporting was to make the Top 5 sound like complete tools with the exception of Cook, who she went overboard in glorifying. So while her reporting is certainly valid, she never really cared for Archuletta in any capacity and I generally take her snark with huge ole grain of salt.

That was Jessica Shaw.

I know her stuff is snarky but the glee she had in imagining that all the guys on Idol this Season treated Archie like a high school reject was very icky to me.And even if I thought he was a nerd or reject, I wouldn’t like the guys on the show this season if they snarked on him because that’s how they treat nerds.

So I’ll just asume she was projecting because if it went down that way, they can be added to the D list. And not D the way Kathy Griffin uses it either.So I’m taking it as her unfunny snark.

Slezak is easily one of the funniest writers Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve ever read. That manà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s magical and seemingly effortless use of the snarkilicious spot-on metaphor and simile astounds me.

ITA. And the fact that he can crank it all out so quickly is very impressive.

I was completely bracing myself for him to snark on Archie this morning. Imagine my surprise when he passed on that opportunity. Go figure.

jpfan, you and I are definitely in agreement about Whitney P. It has nothing to do with Archie, really. If that were an account of ANYONE – guest, past contestant, current contestant, stage hand, whatever – getting snubbed, the delighted tone would bother me just as much. It’s just mean.

Regarding the EW “on the scene” reporters…
I’ve been a fan of these for a while. I love me some snark! I agree with SpencerJ that they aren’t intended to be taken too seriously. Girl can turn a phrase! I enjoyed Whitney’s columns even more last year, as this year she does sound bored… and the snark has a tendency to migrate into something edgier. Her columns on other topics Perhaps they should give her a little break from the Thunderdome?

Adam Vary and Smirklestiltskin are snarky and funny, and his account of last week’s save show was truly awesome. I really felt the excitement, and I laughed out loud several times.

But no one, and I mean no one, has made me laugh as hard as I did in chat last night. :lol_tb:

ETA: Whitney was pretty tough on Archie last year as I recall, and I think her description of the events was intentionally meant to continue that. I think of her writing as satire… it’s not meant to be hard hitting journalism!

Oops nevermind. Sorry Whitney! I was thinking of Jessica Shaw. She’s the one I couldn’t stand last year!

Slezak’s song, when sung, is hilarious. I wonder if I sang it and put it on youtube, how many hits it would get?

It’s really not specific to Archie. If Jordin came on and the snark was the same, I’d feel just as icky.

Not to change the subject, Jason is having some sort of live webcast from his website next Wed. at 7 EST. No idea if this is being organized by the label or what, but he’s supposed to be playing some songs and then answering questions. He’s been in NYC for at least the past two weeks doing various things for the album and with Atlantic. You can send questions to his twitter, which has now been changed to http://www.twitter.com/jasoncastro.

Ms. Whitney Pastorek,

You suck big time!!!!!!

:tongue2_tb:,
Celeste

Yeah, I don’t think Adam, Kris, Matt, and Danny (those are the “four guys” she meant, right?) would deliberately snub anybody. I just don’t see it, especially not right there on the Idol stage.

Besides, this is the same writer who reported that Allison looked “stunned” during Anoop’s elimination moment. Um… it looked pretty clear to me that the girl had a relieved smile plastered on her face, and who can blame her? So I’m not sure what to make of Ms. Whitney’s observation skills in general, lol.

OMG – I just had a flashback to last season – I was watching Idol Wrap or Idol Tonight or something, and Justin G had Whitney on to provide some commentary. She got all heated and started ranting about how a certain contestant (ahem) was nothing but karaoke while his competition (mmmhm) was an artist. She ended with a vehement “karaoke is NOT ARTISTRY!”

Do you think Kara was somewhere (maybe Paula’s couch) taking notes?

(BTW, the expression on Justin’s face during this rant was priceless.)

She got all heated and started ranting about how a certain contestant (ahem) was nothing but karaoke while his competition (mmmhm) was an artist. She ended with a vehement à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“karaoke is NOT ARTISTRY!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Hmm.

Artistry. That word… they keep using it. I do not think it means what they think it means.

:tongue1_tb:

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not even a hardcore Archie or anything, but I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t worry about that little report. Even if she is snarking on Archie, it also sounds like sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s projecting a bit. I still have a few issues with Miss Whitney from last season anyway. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see the other guys intentionally snubbing him.

Whitney dislikes Archie… if I recall pretty strongly (doesn’t she even say that in the account?). Her articles last year were not complimentary either. She’s projecting and then snarking about her assumptions because she thinks it’s funny, and to anybody who dislikes Archie as much as she does, I suppose it will be.

Honestly cannot stand Whitney and her piss-poor writing. She’s so strangely obsessed with Corey the clown that I think she wants to fuck him.

Adam Vary is very good and Slezak is the king…he really cracks me up….especially on idoltry….even when I don’t agree with him.

i’ve said it before and i will happily say it again: i think kara is a GREAT judge. she is a CURRENT asset to the music industry (randy? paula?); she knows what she’s talking about, she is an amazing singer and songwriter, and although i enjoy hearing paula’s opinion, and soooooometimes randy’s, i value what kara has to say much, much more. if i were a contestant i’d only be taking to heart what she and simon have to say. and when it comes to simon, in the end, he’s an old, stubborn, british man who can’t see past the $$ signs. i find that kara, a young, american, female singer and songwriter, relates better to me personally, and i believe to the contestants as well. it’s like she knows what they’re going through, what they want, and how to achieve it. and i’m sure many others would agree.

i just don’t think people like change. and i don’t think it’s fair to blame the time problems on her either.

Slezak is easily one of the funniest writers Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve ever read. That manà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s magical and seemingly effortless use of the snarkilicious spot-on metaphor and simile astounds me.

I’m my imaginary life, I regularly meet Slezak for snarkilicious happy hours (What’ll it be Michael? Beer? Margarita? Cosmo? Either way, I’m buyin’!).

Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s projecting because she thinks ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny, and to anybody who dislikes Archie as much as she does, I suppose it will be.

I agree, I think at this point any Idol Fan knows that some media will never like the Idol of their selection,just to name an example all the cookies will agree that nymag.com isn ´t a fan of David Cook, and pretty much has come to peace with it.

Like somebody said in a previous comment, I was preparing myself for some critic from Mr. Slezak, I ´m a fan of his writing but I know he is no Archie fan, and it wasn ´t that bad, from my point of view. With Ms. Whitney, I think his article is more about insulting David than a journalist unbiased critic, but I accept that, as lone as her editor and America are pro free speach I guess she has the right to write whatever she wants, and since I have the same rights I don ´t feel like I have to agree or even like what she writes, I simple will take my hit to another site.

ETA.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m my imaginary life, I regularly meet Slezak for snarkilicious happy hours (Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll it be Michael? Beer? Margarita? Cosmo? Either way, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m buyinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢!).

I have a similar fantasy, but I also have the closet that Carry has in Sex & City… :smiley2_tb:

Yeah, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam, Kris, Matt, and Danny (those are the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“four guysà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  she meant, right?) would deliberately snub anybody. I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see it, especially not right there on the Idol stage.

Lys and others, you are right. I think her comment about Archie is also saying something nasty about the four guys. I don’t know about Danny, but I have the feeling from watching them that Matt, Kris, and Adam are great guys- humble, appreciative of this opportunity, and respectful and in awe of David Arhculeta of what he has been through and what he has achieved this past year.

I just figured it out!

This article is all a part of Whitney P.’s plot to help win Allison the crown.

She writes an account of the alleged snubbing of DA, thus hoping to incite outrage among Archie’s fans and motivate them to abandon any desire to vote for the S8 boys.

In the same article, she depicts Allison “defending” DA to Anoop, and waxes poetic about Allison’s kindness and exuberance. Surely the Archies, searching for a new favorite, will be attracted to those lovable qualities that she shares with DA himself.

It can’t be denied that the Archie fans know how to vote and vote hard, you know.

That Whitney P. is an evil genius…

:wink_ee:

DC gave a private, surprise concert at his old high school this morning. Very cute!

Looking at the videos of his hometown show last night..wow he really is pretty blonde now! I like it though.

Beside,Archie got a lot of good press out of yesterday performances…

He already let us know that he is “alive” after his performance and that everyone in the Idol set were good to him:

Oh, and the American Idol contestants were really cool too!cerca de 9 horas ago from web

Wow… pretty embarrassed about tonight’s performance… lol. It was good to see all the American Idol staff though!cerca de 9 horas ago from web

And he is a nice kid, his last night vlog speak for itself…

^ David has a Twitter? Is that really him?! Last time I checked I thought he didn’t have one. Are you sure it’s real?

Slezakà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s song, when sung, is hilarious. I wonder if I sang it and put it on youtube, how many hits it would get?

I can guarantee you at least one hit.

I can guarantee you at least one hit.

Make that two.

oh and this:

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹American Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ Trading Cards Make Us Forget Ken Griffey Jr.

Is kind of hilarious. The idea of these AI trading cards is just so ridiculously delicious, I may have to just buy a pack for my kids so I can check them out.

I’m one of those who boycotts Coke’s products because they choose to sponsor this hateful show. I haven’t bought or drank a coke product in over two years and have no intention of doing so for the rest of my life (that includes all their other products as well such as Minute Maid, etc.). Looks to me like Pepsi made a smart business move when they chose not to sponsor a show based on people from England insulting American singers. Ford also saw their last purchase from me since they too choose to sponsor these frauds.

I think all the EW Idol writers this year have disgusted me with thinly veiled gay slurs against Adam. Every.single.one.of.them. Every week it has to be some negative reference around his sexuality – or at least pointing out how he bats for the other team so they are SOO surprised girls can like him to admitting they love to laugh at the guy who has been laughed at and picked on his whole life.

I don’t find anything snarky about them. I think they are simply those nasty people whose only way to get thrills in life is to inflict cruelty. I’m not even a fan of Archie, but last year they went beyond snark. This year they do it to Danny. I don’t care that they all hate Adam and are trying to hard for his sexuality to bring him down, but I can’t join in the laugh at how far they take things about Danny.

Little girls just love Allison, and that was sweet to hear about her interaction with the girl. I’ll never understand why people jump on anyone that makes a Disney suggestion about their Idol. (See Zac Efron) But, Allison is very young, and she acts her age. Which is a good thing. I’d love for Disney to snap her up. I think she would bring something new to the Hollywood teen club. She isn’t going to leave Idol with this huge fanatic fanbase (like Archie), but she’ll have lots of people who like her and she’ll have her household name. Miley loves her. She can get more exposure on some of the shows. I love her unique rocker tone to her voice, but she is one dimensional there. Her demo that was posted here awhile ago showcased a smoother, more pop voice. I don’t know if it was the studio tweaking it, but I think that voice style will get her further.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m one of those who boycotts Cokeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s products because they choose to sponsor this hateful show.

I understand, but Captain Morgan just is not the same with Diet Pepsi. Gotta be Diet Coke.

Ford also saw their last purchase from me since they too choose to sponsor these frauds.

Wait – people actually buy Fords?

I think all the EW Idol writers this year have disgusted me with thinly veiled gay slurs against Adam. Every.single.one.of.them.

Um? I’m not sure I’m reading what you’re reading, and we all have our perspective I guess. And I’ve certainly read some slurring going on in the blogosphere, and I’ve seen the veils. But EW? Not so much.

You know Slezak writes and vlogs for EW, right? And you hear him reference his own husband often? I’m not hearing gay slurs. Snark, yeah lots.

Mileage.

I understand, but Captain Morgan just is not the same with Diet Pepsi. Gotta be Diet Coke.

:lol_tb:

SpencerJ I love you. That is all.

I think all the EW Idol writers this year have disgusted me with thinly veiled gay slurs against Adam. Every.single.one.of.them. Every week it has to be some negative reference around his sexuality – or at least pointing out how he bats for the other team so they are SOO surprised girls can like him to admitting they love to laugh at the guy who has been laughed at and picked on his whole life.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find anything snarky about them. I think they are simply those nasty people whose only way to get thrills in life is to inflict cruelty

Cay, you are right on there. It is funny they don’t point to Kris as a flaming heterosexual. People are people, can’t we leave it at that?

Typical David Cook to do something nice as the concert for the kids. He is a nice guy, period. He gives all in his performances and loves to have his fans have a good time and their reaction to him thrills him.
Archie was less robot on AI lsat night. I think touring with AI and DC really helped him . Not his best showing last night but he still has the voice and still a nice guy.
DC & DA still outshine most of contestants this year. I do like Kris, I think he is true to himself.
Kara still needs to go and wtf was Simon about when he was so mean to Ryan !!!

um…

I can’t edit and hopefully this goes without saying, but my “evil genius” post above was in jest. I just reread it and realized someone might think I was being serious, and good lord, I’m not that much of a conspiracy freak.

Archie has a 4-page spread in Malaysia’s “Hot” magazine…

In Malaysia for a promo tour, the 18-year-old’s schedule was considerably packed but when we met him, we couldn’t help but be impressed by the way he carried himself despite his long day. David was everything you saw on TV and more — immediately likable, contagiously enthusiastic and cute as a button.

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Thanks to Archuleta Avenue Malaysia for the scans.

LOL. Um, people. SLEZAK IS GAY. Like really gay. Like all settled and married to a dude gay. Methinks he sees just mentioning the fact that Adam is gay as something other than a slur.

I think its funnier that Adam can come on stage and do the exact same act he does at an OTT gay cabaret show and we’re all expected to act like we did not just see that. Or comment on the fact that Adam is SO FREAKING OBVIOUSLY INTO DUDES. So much so that daring to mention it and/or snarking on it a little bit turns even married gay guys into closet mean old homophobes. Seriously? Heh.

umà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t edit and hopefully this goes without saying, but my à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“evil geniusà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  post above was in jest. I just reread it and realized someone might think I was being serious, and good lord, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not that much of a conspiracy freak.

Lol. FWIW, I knew right away you were joking. Oh, and Whitney should totally take notes from you and MJ’s other regulars when it comes to snark.

Lefty – I always KNEW you wore a tinfoil hat

So much so that daring to mention it and/or snarking on it a little bit turns even married gay guys into closet mean old homophobes.

Tinawina, I suspect even Slezak himself would have a giggle at the way you described his settled down gayness.

I would equate snarking on Adam’s gayness with snarking on Gokey’s fatness, unless of course it really wasn’t snark, and was actually a thinly veiled homophobic rant. I think it’s easy to tell the difference.

I haven’t gotten a homophobic vibe off of any of the EW reporters. While their opinions of Adam may not be the same as mine, I think they’re legitimate and not brought about by anything hateful.

I of course find the PopWatch blogs hilarious. But, this could be because I am also mean, evil and heartless. I love me some good snark – even when the snark is directed at someone I like.

FWIW, I knew right away you were joking.

phew. *wipes brow*

Lys and others, you are right. I think her comment about Archie is also saying something nasty about the four guys. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know about Danny, but I have the feeling from watching them that Matt, Kris, and Adam are great guys- humble, appreciative of this opportunity, and respectful and in awe of David Arhculeta of what he has been through and what he has achieved this past year.

In awe of him? Not likely and probably as equally projecting as whatever Whitney said. I doubt they’d snub him on purpose though. If they were huddled up and talking, it was probably an unintentional snub. He’s kinda short so maybe they didn’t see him.

Good article about David Cook. I am so happy for him, he is such a huge success. He is setting the world on fire with his debut album. :clap_tb:

^ David has a Twitter? Is that really him?! Last time I checked I thought he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have one. Are you sure ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s real?

Yes is really him… snarkyarchies.com already check it out…

SpenserJ:

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m my imaginary life, I regularly meet Slezak for snarkilicious happy hours (Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll it be Michael? Beer? Margarita? Cosmo? Either way, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m buyinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢!).

Can I come too? Or bartend for y’all???

Not only is Slekak openly gay and married, isn’t Adam Vary also? Or did I misread that in one of his columns? I think Slezak is one of the funniest, fairest AI reporters out there. He doesn’t always love my favorites, but I don’t expect him to. And he at least attempts to call TPTB on the carpet for the endless BS they pull. I don’t get where he’s been homophobic at all.

David Cook is just one awesome dude. His old teachers must be kvelling. I wonder if he sang “Hot For Teacher” this morning? :devil_tb:

Not only is Slekak openly gay and married, isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Adam Vary also? Or did I misread that in one of his columns?

I was thinking the same thing. I feel like he either mentioned it in a column or on Idolatry in the last few weeks.

Yeah, I do believe that EW would be the very last publication to throw homophobic jabs, veiled or not.

I havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t gotten a homophobic vibe off of any of the EW reporters.

Haha, this is hilarious. I’ve subscribed to EW and followed it for a few years now, and that magazine is as far from homophobic as you can go. In fact, I always thought it was kind of a known fact, since it’s been snarked upon every once in a while, that its writing staff is comprised of gay men and f-g hags (and I mean that in the most loving way possible– I flove EW).

I don’t always agree with Slezak (e.g. enough about Carly!), but he’s a great recapper, and his Idolatry episodes are awesome. He’s so knowledgeable and passionate about Idol that his post-boot interviews with the contestants are usually the best– he’s kind and puts them at ease, and he’ll ask the probing questions in a diplomatic way. Even if he wasn’t a fan of the bootee, he always finds something nice to say to each of them without kissing their butt. I’m impressed every time. I also really love Adam B Vary’s on-the-scene reports. Aunt Whittlez, a bit less, because she is a bit of a bitch, but I have to say I often laugh at the bitchiness. The jabs at Archie I disliked, but she even admitted that she personally finds Archie squicky, so it’s obvious she was projecting that onto everything she saw.

On his way out, he had to pass the remaining contestant dudes, and there was this really terrific moment where the four guys were huddled together and doing their very best to just keep chatting and pretend like last seasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s runner-up wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t coming towards them.

That sucks….another reason for not liking Season 8. Other than being boring they lack any class or humility.

I was thinking the same thing. I feel like he either mentioned it in a column or on Idolatry in the last few weeks.

I remember the same thing. He mentioned his husband commented on something while they were watching the show back on the West Coast.

Can I come too? Or bartend for yà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢all???

Etta, I’ve reserved us a table

I think Slezak is one of the funniest, fairest AI reporters out there. He doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t always love my favorites, but I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t expect him to. And he at least attempts to call TPTB on the carpet for the endless BS they pull.

My feelings exactly. I think when you write about AI, you either have to embrace the cheese and actually comment on the reality of the show (like Slezak and our MJ) or you have to be a too cool for school snarkster viewing everyone in your path as a target (like the popwatch on the scene bloggers). Slezak & MJ don’t spare the snark either – but they also comment on the show in its entirety. While the popwatch bloggers focus primarily on the absurdity of it all. Either way works for me. I enjoy both perspectives.

info on Jordin Sparks first single from her upcoming 2nd album . the song is called Battlefield and was written by Ryan Tedder . as mentioned before it might be performed on Idol on Top 3 week.

http://www.popjustice.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3620&Itemid=9

The new Jordin Sparks single is very good indeed.
Story filed Thursday, 23 April 2009

We had a listen to the new Jordin Sparks comeback single earlier today. Here is what we have to report about the song.

 » It is called ‘Battlefield’.

 » It is written by Ryan Tedder.

 » It is sort of mid tempo R&B.

 » Its chorus ends with a big cry of “why does love always feel like a BATTLEFIELD! LIKE A BATTLEFIELD! LIKE A BATTLEFIELD! Why does love always feel like a BATTLEFIELD! LIKE A BATTLEFIELD! LIKE A BATTLEFIELD!”

 » To start with you think ‘this isn’t up to much’ then by the end of it you think ‘this is going to be Number One for precisely 2.5 months’.

 » There is a brilliant middle eight where everything falls out and it’s just Jordin bellowing “LIKE A BATTLEFIELD! LIKE A BATTLEFIELD!” and then it all crashes back in and THEN it all falls out again AND THEN it all goes back in again and it’s all jolly good.

 » The End.

From Kelly Clarkson MySpace

12 may: The Tonight Show with Jay Leno
14 may: The Ellen DeGeneres Show

Not another Bleeding Love/Halo/Already Gone please!

Hmm, I suspect Pat Benetar is currently on the phone with her lawyer LOL.

Spenser, I just thought the exact same thing!

I was thinking the same thing spense.

ETA: LOL, and victoria!

LOL. Um, people. SLEZAK IS GAY. Like really gay. Like all settled and married to a dude gay. Methinks he sees just mentioning the fact that Adam is gay as something other than a slur.

I think what Cay is referring to is Kristen, who sometimes is on idolatry with Michael. She seems uable to let go of the gay thing, referring to Adam as a theater queen. And also questions why girls like him since he “plays for the other team” etc. But she is always that way. She referred to Archie being raised like a veal calf, and also goes on about Danny’s wife.

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ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve said it before and i will happily say it again: i think kara is a GREAT judge. she is a CURRENT asset to the music industry (randy? paula?); she knows what sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s talking about, she is an amazing singer and songwriter, and although i enjoy hearing paulaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s opinion, and soooooometimes randyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s, i value what kara has to say much, much more.

IMO that SHOULD have been the result of adding Kara to Idol, a current talent with writing, performing and industry experience giving a fresh perspective. However, sadly, she has failed. She has become as biased and predictable in record time. Instead of appluading the kids talents, she is pretty much forcing the kids into a prepackaged box, and if the contestants do not follow her words, regardless of the result, her critiques reflect that. She’s a coherent Randy Jackson as far as I’m concerned.

if i were a contestant ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d only be taking to heart what she and simon have to say. and when it comes to simon, in the end, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s an old, stubborn, british man who canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see past the $$ signs. i find that kara, a young, american, female singer and songwriter, relates better to me personally, and i believe to the contestants as well.

Again, see above. That is what she SHOULD be doing, but it not. Paula has become what everyone expected Kara to be, mixing honest critiques with a bit of compassion. Paula has always been pretty much spot on in terms of identifying talent since season 1. However, that has been overshadowed by her “quirks”. Kara was supposed to be the coherent Paula. Sadly, she has been reduced to being heckled by the audience, and being flipped the bird by Simon.

ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like she knows what theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re going through, what they want, and how to achieve it. and ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure many others would agree.

I disagree, if she really knew what they were going through, or cared at all, she would encourage them to work on their craft so that they can be the ARTIST they want to be. She, more blatantly than Simon, week after week is trying to impose her vision for the contestants on them. Personally I don’t care if she things contestant A should be singing songs like a particular artist. Maybe Lil Rounds for example, didn’t want to be the next Mary J. Blige, maybe she wanted to be the FIRST Lil Rounds. just an example. For someone like Kara with all “experience” she has a narrow view of what artistry is.

i just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think people like change. and i donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fair to blame the time problems on her either.

True, change is rough for some people, but Kara has done this to herself. She always has this long of disgust and disdain on her face. Even her smiles seem forced, and it really comes across on TV. There is a reason that she is not a headlining act, SHE is unlikeable.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m one of those who boycotts Cokeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s products because they choose to sponsor this hateful show. I havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bought or drank a coke product in over two years and have no intention of doing so for the rest of my life (that includes all their other products as well such as Minute Maid, etc.). Looks to me like Pepsi made a smart business move when they chose not to sponsor a show based on people from England insulting American singers. Ford also saw their last purchase from me since they too choose to sponsor these frauds.

I’m sorry, but… what? So you boycott Coke and Ford, but seeing as how you are posting on a blog that is primarily about American Idol, it might be easy to assume that you watch American Idol? Unless you’re here for Dancing With The Stars, then I’m wrong. But I don’t get boycotting the sponsors if you still watch this “hateful” “fraud” of a show…

*shrugs*

Sigh. As a longstanding disco fan à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  uh-huh, you read that right! à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  it pains me to say that the lowest point of tonightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s particularly abominable results-show telecast had to be the medley of dance classics from Freda Payne, Thelma Houston, and KC (controversially operating sans Sunshine Band).

This was probably talked about elsewhere but I missed it. I just have to go on record and say that these 3 disco classic artists were a horror show. A nightmare. Looks like they were dragged back from the dead. Honestly, the Idol producers need to vett these people first and make sure they can still sing and also see what they’re going to wear and how they’re going to do their hair. This was an embarrassment LOL. Pitiful.

I mean I respect the old-timers as much as anyone else, but they also have to respect themselves. If they can’t sing, they have no business appearing on a singing talent show. There comes a time in everyone’s life when they have to gracefully retire and let younger people have their turn. When you can’t do it anymore, lay down the gloves.

The 2nd singer could still sing, but she made Fantasia look sedate in comparison.

I am not Pat Bentar’s counsel, but I sure would like this case if she were to call!

Too cute to miss – David Cook invited his brother up on stage with him at his concert last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC2VYs-Mh6E&feature=channel

I mean I respect the old-timers as much as anyone else, but they also have to respect themselves. If they canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sing, they have no business appearing on a singing talent show. There comes a time in everyoneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s life when they have to gracefully retire and let younger people have their turn.

I agree with you. I’m often mystified why sometimes you can see can see an act that’s been touring for 30 years and the lead singer’s voice is still strong. Yet, then you’ll see someone else in the business a long time and they sound like they never had a good voice in the first place.

I suspect maybe some of it has to do with lifestyle. For instance, I doubt KC’s longstanding cocaine problem wasn’t a big help to keeping his vocal chords in tact. I mean, Smokey Robinson has lost some of his vocal power, but at least he can still carry a tune – and you can still hear what made his voice great in the first place.

KC last night was just an abomination. I was most saddened by Freida. I used to LOVE her. That was really disappointing. So yeah, once they start sucking, I’d rather they just retire.

From Kelly Clarkson MySpace

12 may: The Tonight Show with Jay Leno
14 may: The Ellen DeGeneres Show

Wow, must be nice to be an established artist– you get to make the media rounds for your second single. I hope someday DC will get to that point.

Wowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ pretty embarrassed about tonightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performanceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ lol.

Why was Archie embarrassed? I thought he did fine. Some vocal issues, but as a whole, the performance came off well. Is it because he was sick? I get this is part of what makes Archie endearing, but I think he really needs to stop the self-deprecation in public forums like twitter. He got decent reviews overall, and saying stuff like that detracts from them.

smallie- Are they really sure that was David’s twitter. That doesn’t seem like something he would write.

Freida had some issues:

1. What happened to her voice? I didn’t expect it would be as powerful as it had been, but it was basically gone.

2 Who dressed her? Not flattering at all.

3. Her bra was not supporting the girls.

4. Didn’t someone in rehersal tell her that the dance was not working?

However as Lil would say, she had fun.

smallie- Are they really sure that was Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s twitter. That doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seem like something he would write.

I’m not sma11ie, but apparently Snarky Archies confirmed it, but who knows… I agree, it doesn’t sound like something he would say. It’s worded really weird. All the posts on the Twitter are written in a different style (not sure if that’s the right word) than anything else I’ve ever seen that he’s written. I’m not convinced.

I agree that those tweets don’t sound quite authentic … there was another one that referred to his performance as “excruciatingly unpleasant” and that just doesn’t seem like something he’d say either. He usually seems not to dwell so much on negatives.

I just wonder if this isn’t a really good fake twitter account.

ETA: Victoria, you and I are obviously of the same mind here, because I was getting ready to add that they don’t sound like they were written by him – at least they don’t sound like his blogs do.

Lefty, I was just looking at that “excruciatingly bad” tweet, and I’m convinced it’s not David. Hmm, too bad, I wish he had a Twitter…

Why was Archie embarrassed? I thought he did fine. Some vocal issues, but as a whole, the performance came off well. Is it because he was sick? I get this is part of what makes Archie endearing, but I think he really needs to stop the self-deprecation in public forums like twitter. He got decent reviews overall, and saying stuff like that detracts from them.

His fans always knew he was hard on himself. After WCWIO he texted his vocal coach with, “sorry.” He’s very worried about letting people down.

Thing is–the song itself was not for the Idol audience. What it did was show how much he’s grown on the stage, performance-wise. Not his best vocal, but still pretty good. I postulated last night that his appearance on Hannah Montana and the tour this summer are going to do much more for him than appearing on Idol (sales-wise and buzz-wise). His audience and Idol’s audience have so diverged over the last year–those who he pulled in during Idol that could foresee him as a pop star stayed, those who could not, left. A lot of the casual voters for him wanted him to become the next Josh Groban. And I’m sure if he sang a pretty ballad they would have eaten it up. But that’s not what he wants to do, and that’s not the path he wants to take. So they get confused by a song that is clearly not directed at their demographic. Thankfully, he picked up a lot of kids, tweens, teens and college-age folks (one of the biggest fan sites for David is one founded by 20-somethings who never watched him on Idol).

Along those lines, I have a feeling Allison is struggling right now because the Idol audience doesn’t “get” young singers. The median age of an Idol viewer is 40, and it’s still bleeding the younger demo. As long as the young singers are singing AC ballads, they’re cool with it. The moment the young singers start to mix it up with anything more contemporary than what would fit on AC and they don’t get it. They see Allison in her Xena, Warrior Princess outfit and red hair singing “Hot Stuff” and they think, huh… uh… ok, I’m gonna vote for DANNY! Even Adam trends towards AC half the time. And when he doesn’t, he isn’t at the top of the heap on DialIdol. He’s not exactly breaking through as the front runner.

Jordin had an easier time because (1) she sang primarily AC ballads on the show, and (2) her season was weak overall (with her main vocal competition, Melinda, deemed too boring to win). Jordin’s performance of OSAAT on the AI7 finale didn’t help the song at all. It wound up doing well on radio–months later. The moment she sang a fun, uptempo, youthful song, the Idol audience thought, “meh.”

Idol breeds adult contemporary artists, especially in the last 3 years. It’s what Idol’s audience thinks they want. If it’s not “mature” it’s not wanted. Simon’s idea of relevant has become irrelevant. If Idol really wanted relevant CHR artists, they would start pimping contestants that sing more uptempo, beat-driven pop and R&B. That’s what plays on Top 40 radio. What Idol is proclaiming to be relevant are artists that will wind up primarily on AC or Hot AC. These aren’t big arena artists. Only now, after “I’m Yours” is Jason Mraz able to play venues over 6000. That’s after 3 albums, and two CHR hits–with a string of other songs that did okay on Hot AC. So don’t be looking for Kris to fill arenas. I love Kris, and I would buy his album, but he’s not Top 40 relevant–he’s Hot AC and AC.

Anyway, I’m rambling and off the point of my original response. lol. But, anyway, I don’t think Idol is Archie’s audience anymore. Jive and David himself transformed him into something different. Some people could appreciate the leaps and bounds in his performance skills, and others just don’t get it at all, and never will unless he starts acting like ballad boy again.

Lefty, I was just looking at that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“excruciatingly badà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  tweet, and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m convinced ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not David. Hmm, too bad, I wish he had a Twitterà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I’ve heard from two separate, yet accurate, sources that it is him. If it’s not him then somebody on the inside is playing a very big elaborate joke. He’s very tough on himself–people have just never seen him express it so openly.

Overall, I get what you’re saying soundscene, but I gotta say, I feel a little spun by all the broad brush generalizations respecting peeps, their age and their corresponding musical preferences. Seriously dizzy from that ride, girl!

Ryan Tedder might have some issues. Bleeding Love, why is love like a BATTLEFIELD, BATTLEFIELD… I’m guessing next year, he’ll pen a single for Allison Iraheta entitled “Love Shrapnel (Baby, It Hurts).” :rolleyes_tb:

Also, I am no Archie apologist by any stretch, seriously, but Whitney Whatsherface is like the Sanjaya of EW correspondents. Her snark is the comedy equivalent of Bath Water. Do Not Want. Bleh. Love me some Slezak and Adam B. Vary, though.

Overall, I get what youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re saying soundscene, but I gotta say, I feel a little spun by all the broad brush generalizations respecting peeps, their age and their corresponding musical preferences. Seriously dizzy from that ride, girl!

I only make generalizations so I can keep my post under thesis length. lol. I’m not supposed to be in Archie’s demo, but I love his music anyway. And there are others like me as well.

But when you’re talking about people as a whole, excluding the outliers of the group, there are trends. There’s a reason why Hot AC radio skews older and CHR skews younger. Some youngins listen to Hot AC and some older folk listen to CHR, but overall, CHR is younger, and Hot AC is older.

And Idol is an older audience. You only have to see which contestants tend to do best to understand the type of sound the general audience seems to want, and it’s not young, fun, catchy, beat-driven pop music. And it’s not oddly-dressed teenage girls singing in a rockerish voice about getting some hot stuff this evening.

Jive sure knows how to work things fast. Jordin’s album was released a year after Daughtry and yet she’s releasing a new album faster than him. I bet that’s what’s going to happen too with Archie and Cook. Archie will release his 2nd album way before Cook will – assuming of course that Cook will have at least 5 singles or so but then again I don’t know how many singles RCA would release. Anyway, I’m excited to hear this and I’m sure it would be huge! Jordin is a really strong single seller and her sound definitely fits what’s “in” at the Top 40 radio. I’m getting tired of Ryan Tedder’s sound (Bleeding Love/Halo/Already Gone) but I’m sure this would be good.

Wow, must be nice to be an established artistà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ you get to make the media rounds for your second single. I hope someday DC will get to that point.

Those are not extra media rounds. Kelly hasn’t gone there yet when she promoted the new album/first single.

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So they get confused by a song that is clearly not directed at their demographic. Thankfully, he picked up a lot of kids, tweens, teens and college-age folks (one of the biggest fan sites for David is one founded by 20-somethings who never watched him on Idol).

Hmm. I’m a few years older than Archie and the above mentioned targeted demographic who just watched the video MJ posted of David A’s performance, and I think the song sucks. I almost felt bad for him. He tried to work it out but the song is silly-bad, not silly in a kind of cool/good way. Maybe it will sell to the kidzbop crowd.

I can ´t edit my previous comment but here:

Lefty, I was just looking at that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“excruciatingly badà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  tweet, and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m convinced ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not David. Hmm, too bad, I wish he had a Twitterà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

In snarkyarchies.com, you can see Paul Benton tweets ´ image and he confirms that is Archie ´s twitter…

Paul Benton was the guy that opened for David in the UTAH concerts…

Along those lines, I have a feeling Allison is struggling right now because the Idol audience doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“getà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  young singers.

Allison is top 5, lol not that bad, she’s actually doing pretty good for someone who was invisible for so long. Idol audience gave the win to Jordin two years ago and put Archie in #2 last year. The audience it’s still pretty much the same, so I think they’re ok with young singers.
Anyway, I don’t understand what that whole post has to do with Archie’s performance. If he didn’t sing very well and people think (and himself) he didn’t perform it very well too, what does that have to do with the AI audience?
And Jive may be trying to make him go Disney, but his fanbase it’s still pretty much the same AI fanbase. Which is natural, actually, he hasn’t been around for that long and hasn’t had that many singles out.
Still, he doesn’t have to be so hard on himself. LOL It wasn’t that bad. I hope he’s not been reading the internet, everything is blown out of proportion in the web.

Some people could appreciate the leaps and bounds in his performance skills, and others just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get it at all, and never will unless he starts acting like ballad boy again.

I was not at all fond of ballad boy. And, I had no expectations of Archie – other than my initial impression of the song. But, off-key is off-key. Flat is flat. I may not “get” Archie, but I recognize wonky notes. I was surprised by it, because vocal imperfections were the last thing I would have foreseen for his appearance. In fact, I was kind of hoping he’d do well.

I DID appreciate the improvement in his performance skills. And, I think he’s a really great kid with a fantastic attitude. But that song is quite insipid, and his vocal was all over the place.

I’m not sure I agree with all of the generalizations in your post, even if they’re purpose is expediency. Mostly because, in my experience Tweens and Teens don’t always like the same thing. I think there’s a seismic shift when one goes from middle school to high school. For me, I see these at 2 entirely different markets. With the kids I know, older teens often have disdain for the musical tastes of their younger tween siblings.

Cruzceleste, thanks I was wondering where the confirmation of his Twitter was coming from.

Hmm. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a few years older than Archie and the above mentioned targeted demographic who just watched the video MJ posted of David Aà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performance, and I think the song sucks. I almost felt bad for him. He tried to work it out but the song is silly-bad, not silly in a kind of cool/good way. Maybe it will sell to the kidzbop crowd.

I’m about 2 years younger than him, and I agree with you. I think Jive was originally aiming for Top 40, but the songs on his album – other than Crush – are too young-sounding. That’s probably why they’re trying to go for Disney now. I wish they had gone with more of the “Works For Me” sound for the entire album.

“Wow, must be nice to be an established artistà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ you get to make the media rounds for your second single. I hope someday DC will get to that point. ”

I thought Cook got grade A promo for his album and first single. Miles beyond anything Jordin got last year. So I can’t see how his fans can complain about the support he’s gotten. Unless they expected that level of support to go on forever which it couldn’t.

Archie’s tweet showed what a smart kid he really is under that somewhat goofy exterior. He knew he was bad and isn’t ashamed to admit it.

Aha! I was trying to figure out what Archie’s epic vocal fail reminded me of and just realized he pulled a Peter Brady! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyooALwfxO8

For me, if that indeed was his “tweet” about how bad he was, it’s further proof that the kid needs a therapist. That level of constant and obvious self-loathing isn’t normal. Yeah he was horrible but shake it off and move on.

Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s tweet showed what a smart kid he really is under that somewhat goofy exterior. He knew he was bad and isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t ashamed to admit it.

I agree he’s a smart kid. I don’t think he needs to be that hard on himself though. Shake it off Archie. And, while you’re at it, I think it’s great that you had a successful pop single – and you can probably have more – if you demand better material on this second cd. Don’t be shy David. Make them give you the good stuff.

For me, if that indeed was his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“tweetà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  about how bad he was, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s further proof that the kid needs a therapist. That level of constant and obvious self-loathing isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t normal. Yeah he was horrible but shake it off and move on.

Oh, I don’t know… when I manage to embarrass myself (and it happens often enough, believe me) I tend to call myself out on it rather than pretend it didn’t happen. It just makes me feel better to make it public and then move on. Maybe he’s the same way. It was only a couple of tweets, not a Barbara Walters special. *shrug*

For me, if that indeed was his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“tweetà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  about how bad he was, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s further proof that the kid needs a therapist. That level of constant and obvious self-loathing isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t normal. Yeah he was horrible but shake it off and move on.

Not really is just that some people are more perfectionist than others, and most teenagers get embarased more easily… you should see me when I was 18, man I was a mess… one time I fell of the stairs of my college, I though in that episode for a week, and everytime somebody looked at me in the cafetery I though they were thinking “yeah thats the girl that fell of the stairs”… I was being insecure… but I have grow up of it….

It seem like Allison, if this is her real twitter, was really excited about meeting Archie:

yeaa david was so AWESOME ! i went to hug him when he cam over to tell us advice at elimination..who saw that ? hahaa
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And not to get her in trouble, but aren ´t contestants prohibid to speak in the media with Idol ´s permission… guess you can ´t count twitter as a real media…

It’s not a big deal, he’s a perfectionist when it comes to his own stuff. He moves on pretty quickly. The band and other people around him always mention how mellow he is and how nothing really gets to him. I like that he’s just honest about his feelings, and as a 17 year old I can relate to him.

hmm is that really Allison?

Allison is top 5, lol not that bad, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s actually doing pretty good for someone who was invisible for so long. Idol audience gave the win to Jordin two years ago and put Archie in #2 last year. The audience ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still pretty much the same, so I think theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re ok with young singers.
Anyway, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t understand what that whole post has to do with Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performance. If he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sing very well and people think (and himself) he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t perform it very well too, what does that have to do with the AI audience?
And Jive may be trying to make him go Disney, but his fanbase ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still pretty much the same AI fanbase. Which is natural, actually, he hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been around for that long and hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t had that many singles out.
Still, he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have to be so hard on himself. LOL It wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that bad. I hope heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not been reading the internet, everything is blown out of proportion in the web.

I already said that the Idol audience is fine with teenagers when they’re singing “mature” AC-type stuff–Jordin and Archie did that when they were on the show. And “No Air” was mature enough for Jordin that her performance worked. OSAAT, however, was not the same kind of song.

And Allison is struggling–she’s been bottom 3 enough for me to say that, yet she’s been one of the more consistent performers. Why do you think Slezak is so angry all the time? Yeah, she’s doing well overall, but in the context of the show she’s never been a frontrunner. She’s getting by because there has still been fodder to get rid of.

And I still think Archie sounded pretty good last night (he’s being a teenager who’s a perfectionist; being hard on himself so others don’t have to be–I used to do the same thing when I was his age). If you’re used to the minute and a half show off songs that the contestants sing every week and which are rehearsed to sound perfect with the sound mix of bandzilla (when the show gets that right–sometimes they don’t), then songs that aren’t rehearsed more than once on that stage, and which tend to have poor sound mix, aren’t going to come off that well. That’s why all the Idol returning performers and the other guests have sounded kind of “off.” The ones that did better were the ones singing pretty ballads with lighter arrangements. The mix doesn’t need as much work, and a good vocalist will always sound better on a ballad.

I WHOLLY disagree that Archie’s fan base is the Idol fan base. Maybe the ones that post on this website, but his fan base as a whole is not Idol-like. If you stick only to Idol-based websites, I can see how you could miss that.

As for the comments from people saying in that they’re in Archie’s demo but they didn’t like his performance or the song, that’s fine. Just because you don’t like him, the performance, or the song doesn’t mean that it doesn’t appeal to a good number of people in your demographic anyway. People aren’t all homogeneous. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s not appealing to your demo in general. I don’t care for post-grunge rock yet it’s aimed squarely at my demographic, and most of the people who like it are around my age and of my gender.

And Allison is strugglingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been bottom 3 enough for me to say that, yet sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been one of the more consistent performers. Why do you think Slezak is so angry all the time? Yeah, sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s doing well overall, but in the context of the show sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s never been a frontrunner.

She’s never been a frontrunner because the show never treated her like one and never pushed her much (save for the past 2 weeks). To me it’s not the audience, it’s the show that for a long time ignored her and pimped others a lot more. So yeah, I think she’s doing well because somehow she was able to connect with part of the audience. She’s my favorite and I’m pretty happy she is top 5, when the finals started I had my doubts she’d even get there. She has been doing well considering the circumstances.
Btw, looks like she also keeps a Myspace that is updated with Idol music and all. I didn’t think that was possible. So I’m not sure she’s the one keeping the twitter and MS… but maybe so.

I WHOLLY disagree that Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fan base is the Idol fan base. Maybe the ones that post on this website, but his fan base as a whole is not Idol-like. If you stick only to Idol-based websites, I can see how you could miss that.

I’m not saying Archie hasn’t picked fans outside Idol, I think as long as you have music played on radio you’ll most probably get new fans, but the ones who “found” him on Idol are still the ones going to his concerts and buying his music. I think the trajectory of his album is very telling.
Anyway, I don’t think we need to criticize the AI audience if they don’t enjoy the music. If the target are the tweens, there really aren’t that many shows on TV that would probably bring that demographic other than Disney. So, not Idol’s fault.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not saying Archie hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t picked fans outside Idol, I think as long as you have music played on radio youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll most probably get new fans, but the ones who à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“foundà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  him on Idol are still the ones going to his concerts and buying his music. I think the trajectory of his album is very telling.
Anyway, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think we need to criticize the AI audience if they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t enjoy the music. If the target are the tweens, there really arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that many shows on TV that would probably bring that demographic other than Disney. So, not Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fault.

I’ve been to his solo shows, and there’s a lot of people there that weren’t Idol fans. The trajectory of his album is exactly the same trajectory as most albums–start out big, diminish. It’s not “telling” at all. Artists wholly unrelated to Idol have the exact same trajectory.

And I wasn’t criticizing the Idol audience–I was making a statement about what they do and don’t seem to like. I question some of their taste this year in other areas having nothing to do with Archie. But I’m not criticizing them for not feeling a song that’s aimed squarely at a demographic that aren’t big Idol watchers. And it’s not just “tweens” that Idol is losing, it’s young adults as well. The show may still be #1 on TV, but it’s skewing older than it was before. That’s not a criticism–that’s fact.

I WHOLLY disagree that Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fan base is the Idol fan base. Maybe the ones that post on this website, but his fan base as a whole is not Idol-like. If you stick only to Idol-based websites, I can see how you could miss that.

Archie was “one and done” with singles and he had one, maybe two good weeks of album sales. Among teens he’s primarily their B or C team, behind Miley, Jonas Brothers, Jordin, etc, and the adults who are at his show are either parents of kids or were AI fans who got attached to him. I don’t see any evidence that he’s increased his fanbase since AI. At best he’s treading water and hoping for a breakout.
The album sales trajectory shows that he had hardcore fans buy his CD early on and then he didn’t pick up casual fans afterwards to keep things going. Yes, it happens to other artists but for the same reason: they have diehards and then fail to build off of it. His second cd’s first week sales will require a major increase in interest in him to even come close to what he did with his first cd, as middling as it is.

I really love Archie. I think the world of the kid and I wish him nothing but the best. It’s always disheartening, to me, to have someone be the brunt of on-line balderdash whether it be Archie or Adam or Anyone. I cannot bear Witney and her on-scene reports because she uses people as fodder without any regards to truth. Any action can be interpreted a hundred different ways and for her to make “mean” comments as opposed to snarky just shows that the woman has absolutely no class.

Archie did not come up to my overly high expectations last night. Since I do not personally know how he was feeling, i.e. was he sick, or just overly tired, or whatever, I can only say that I wish he had done better, just as I wish Cook’s performance would have been.

I haven’t made a secret of the fact that I think that Archie’s (and his Peeps) choice of marketing himself to the tween generation would never have been my choice for him. Not because I think he could have been the next Josh Grobin but the fact I think the Tween market is all about milking allowance money from very impressionable kids. I was overwhelmed when his 99 cent download for Build a Bear (that was the part that went to charity) turned into a buying frenzy of Build a Bear products that were only profitable to the seller. Stuff like that just irritates the snot out of me.

I’m just hoping that Allison, with her nice mature sounding voice and a look that is more older teen and college age ready will forego all the “Disney” stuff if that “opportunity” rears its ugly head. Hopefully she can be marketed as a young adult and not a tween idol.

As for the comments from people saying in that theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re in Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s demo but they didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like his performance or the song, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fine. Just because you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like him, the performance, or the song doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t appeal to a good number of people in your demographic anyway.

Well, that’s why I commented that I disliked the song- to dispel an overgeneralization on demographic appeal in the first place.

Well, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s why I commented that I disliked the song- to dispel an overgeneralization on demographic appeal in the first place.

Just because you don’t care for the overgeneralization doesn’t mean that part of it isn’t true. There’s a reason why it’s generalized in the first place.

Archie was à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“one and doneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  with singles and he had one, maybe two good weeks of album sales. Among teens heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s primarily their B or C team, behind Miley, Jonas Brothers, Jordin, etc, and the adults who are at his show are either parents of kids or were AI fans who got attached to him. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see any evidence that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s increased his fanbase since AI. At best heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s treading water and hoping for a breakout.

You do realize he’s been a pro musician for all of 9 months right? And Idol was not kind to his image. For the record, the Jonas Brothers took 3 albums and 2 record labels to get where they are. They didn’t shoot to the top. They didn’t have American Idol, but they had Miley Cyrus which, in the world of big-arena teen tours, is just as good. And still it took them until 2008 to really get where they are now. They were an opening act. A “B” team as you call it, until 2008. It took them more than 9 months, even after their Disney “breakout” to get where they are.

I see evidence that his fan base is expanding. I’m a fan, so I know. People can be very impatient in the Idol-world for immediate success. American Idol is all about competition and a great TV storyline. The music world, however, is not like that. It’s far trickier. People were discounting Kelly when she was pretty much absent between her first and second albums. I remember Clay fans saying he had taken over as Idol contestant supreme. Things change. And, for the record, Kelly’s album sales trajectory isn’t all that different (maybe a little worse), even with songs on the radio. She, of all people, shouldn’t be Idol-affected anymore. But album sales suck unless your audience is still the type to go out and buy albums. A lot of people aren’t doing that.

Too cute to miss – David Cook invited his brother up on stage with him at his concert last night

Thanks for bringing that link, in response I went to look at some of the other songs Cook performed while at the KC Ameristar and found this one.
I hope they release “Lie” at some point as a single. It’s just unbelievable done live, as shown by this amateur video/sound.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been to his solo shows, and thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a lot of people there that werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Idol fans. The trajectory of his album is exactly the same trajectory as most albumsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’start out big, diminish. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“tellingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  at all. Artists wholly unrelated to Idol have the exact same trajectory.

ITA.

I’m waiting to see what David (A) comes out with next. He’s super talented and a great kid, and his joy in performing is infectious. I hope that his next release hits it big.

Along those lines, I have a feeling Allison is struggling right now because the Idol audience doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“getà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  young singers. The median age of an Idol viewer is 40, and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still bleeding the younger demo. As long as the young singers are singing AC ballads, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re cool with it. The moment the young singers start to mix it up with anything more contemporary than what would fit on AC and they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get it. They see Allison in her Xena, Warrior Princess outfit and red hair singing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Hot Stuffà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and they think, huhà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ uhà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ ok, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m gonna vote for DANNY!

As an older AI fan I don’t listen to AC stuff as a rule, I like listening to contemporary young artists in varying genres. And, I find absolutely NOTHING wrong with the young contestants singing anything they damn well please and dressing however they want. I look forward to Allison’s next outfit and her song choice and I find nothing wrong with her singing older lyrics. Rarely have the judges told her to sing something age appropriate. With her voice you don’t need to dumb yourself down and sing the Disney stuff. And, by the way, Kelly Clarkson was only 18 when she was on AI and she has never been marketed as part of the “Disney” set.

Archie was à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“one and doneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  with singles and he had one, maybe two good weeks of album sales. Among teens heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s primarily their B or C team, behind Miley, Jonas Brothers, Jordin, etc, and the adults who are at his show are either parents of kids or were AI fans who got attached to him. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see any evidence that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s increased his fanbase since AI. At best heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s treading water and hoping for a breakout.

I am not a stats person, who has David’s selling stats at my fingertips, but the fact that he has sold over 700,00 albums and almost 2 million downloads of Crush shows that he has picked up way more fans than idol. That is a no brainer.

I went to two of David’s recent SOLDOUT tour (except for one venue that was nearly sold out) and there is no way those were only idol fans.

About David being the B or C team behind Miley and the Jonas Brothers, or even Jordan. . . .they have all been out there for much, much longer. Miley and the Jonas brothers have the Disney machine behind them, and Jordan was the WINNER of American idol and honestly got her big break when she did the duet with Chris Brown. I am sure David is happy to be anywhere near those guys in such a short time. And he hasn’t had the promotion or benefit of being the winner of AI.

Not only did he just finish that US tour, but he had a very successful small tour in Asia and is headed today for his month long tour of England and has a 47 city tour with Demi Lovato all over the US. How many 18 year old kids have done that much or are getting those opportunities???

HE HAS ONLY BEEN OUT FOR LESS THAN A YEAR!!!! He is doing great. What in the heck do we expect from him????

ETA:
One more thing… Many people have to have their hands slapped or be told that they aren’t up to snuff because they don’t know any better. BUT there are a few very wise, sensitive, and self regulating people, who manage themselves. They have high expectations for themselves and they learn from their mistakes without other people having to tell them.

David is one of those- he has high goals for himself and is very hard on himself. I have two kids who are like that. They were born that way, and there is nothing I can do to change that. I will tell you though that both of my kids like that have achieved an astonishing amount at a very young age (one of them being aspbergers– autistic) and with no one making them do it. Of course we are there to support them, but they made lofty goals for themselves and when they fall short, they learn from their mistakes and push themselves. David is the same, and he is amazing and doesn’t need therapy.

The problem is he’s a tween and teen star. If he doesn’t catch on quick he’ll be lapped by the next cute boy who can sing.

Rarely have the judges told her to sing something age appropriate. With her voice you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t need to dumb yourself down and sing the Disney stuff. And, by the way, Kelly Clarkson was only 18 when she was on AI and she has never been marketed as part of the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Disneyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  set.

There was no real Disney set back then. Britney, Justin, etc. had transitioned away from Disney already and there were no young pop Disney-made stars on the rise. Kelly literally couldn’t be marketed using the Disney Channel, but you better bet her songs were played on Radio Disney.

The “Disney” set today, however, is singing the same kind of pop music Kelly was singing when she first came out, though. Just that a lot of “pop” music transferred from Top 40 to other formats (including Disney) in the last couple years. The radio format that plays the most pop music is Radio Disney (some of the best recurrents, too). You just have to wade through the occasional song from High School Musical. Even listening to Kelly’s album now, any one of those songs could have been given to Demi Lovato. But apparently Demi has a “stain” upon her image because she’s associated with Disney. Going “Disney” is a stereotype that is a tad unfair. They’re young artists who are singing pop music. Oh, and because of the cross-marketing are able to sell arena tours. Certainly not a bad place to be. If they have true talent (and a few of them really do), they’ll transition to more mature music, with more mature fans that grew up with them. Hollywood Records can still market adults. And David will never be 100% Disney because his label is Jive Records, who would never hand over an asset like David to the full control of an outside company.

The problem is heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a tween and teen star. If he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t catch on quick heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be lapped by the next cute boy who can sing.

Teens really don’t move on as fast as you think–nor are as mindless as you seem to believe. Like I said… Jonas Brothers… 3 albums, 2 labels, and they had to open for what was, essentially, a TV character on tour. They put out an album per year. Hence the reason David is set to put out another album this year.

But, as LK08 said below, he does have older fans–quite a few in their 20s (as I mentioned early on) and older. They love his stuff. It’s just pop music–not “tween” music. TMH is aimed lyrically at younger fans, but the melody is almost Coldplay-eque (their more pop-oriented stuff). I don’t deny that TMH wasn’t meant for the average Idol viewer–in fact that was my original point. But I do deny that his music overall doesn’t appeal to a wide range of people. Jive is simply concentrating on one portion of his audience right now.

Just because you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care for the overgeneralization doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mean that part of it isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t true. Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a reason why ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s generalized in the first place.

Exactly. Part of it isn’t true and part of it is. That’s why the use of generalization should have been used prudently in the first place because it is drawing conclusions on the basis of conjecture and insufficient evidence.

Exactly. Part of it isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t true and part of it is. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s why the use of generalization should be used prudently in the first place because it is drawing conclusions on the basis of conjecture and insufficient evidence.

It wasn’t insufficient evidence. Ratings in the 18-49 and 18-34 demos have been dropping on Idol for the past few years. And the most successful performances on Idol are the ones that are most decidedly adult contemporary. I draw conclusions based on who the people are voting for, and the age brackets of the primary Idol audience (and who isn’t viewing as much as they were before).

BTW, they never give the under 18 demo numbers. But considering the median age of an Idol viewer is 40, I’m thinking that people under the age of 18 aren’t rushing to their TV set every Tuesday and Wednesday.

The problem is heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a tween and teen star. If he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t catch on quick heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be lapped by the next cute boy who can sing.

In my experience from the concerts I have gone to and from hearing other fans talk, this is absolutely not true. David appeals to all ages, both male and female.

Soundscene, we get along, right? I mean I like Archie. This is established. Or at least I hope. LOL. Please keep this in mind while I say what I have to say.

Seriously? That was some BS. LOL. The boy sang a bad song and it didn’t sing it that well. Maybe it sounds better on the album, maybe he’s done it better in concert. But it didn’t sound good last night. This has nothing to do with Idol being AC (!!!!!!) or not having enough of the demo that would like the song. Perhaps, maybe, it is just possible that the fault this time lies with Archie? He had one of his rare bad performances on the wrong night. It is not the end of his career. He will live to make new albums and videos, he will tour. But I just… I mean COME ON. Maybe if he had knocked it out of the park you would have a point. LOL. Now we’re all just too old to get the hip currentness that is Archie (and all contestants under 18)? Yikes. I have no words.

They put out an album per year. Hence the reason David is set to put out another album this year.

You aren’t saying that David is putting out another album so fast because Jive is following what the Jonas Brother’s are doing are you? Like that was their plan all along? The only reason Jive is putting out another album for Archie is because this one is over and done. It has totally stalled. They can get nothing else from it. It is not due to a lack of sales that prompts the Jonas Brothers to put out albums so fast. They are milking the tweens for everything they have. If they will buy 3 JB albums, then they will buy 4 more. Keep selling while the iron is hot and keep those tweens interested or they will move on to the next best thing.

But seriously? That was some BS. LOL. The boy sang a bad song and it didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sing it that well. Maybe it sounds better on the album, maybe heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s done it better in concert. But it didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sound good last night. This has nothing to do with Idol being AC (!!!!!!) or not having enough of the demo that would like the song. Perhaps, maybe, it is just possible that the fault this time lies with Archie? He had one of his rare bad performances on the wrong night. It is not the end of his career. He will live to make new albums and videos, he will tour. But I justà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ I mean COME ON. Maybe if he had knocked it out of the park you would have a point. LOL. Now weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re all just too old to get the hip currentness that is Archie (and all contestants under 18)? Yikes. I have no words.

You do realize all of that was your opinion, right? People said J.Hud sounded bad last week on here and I thought she sounded fine. Some people thought Cook was spectacular when he performed and I thought he sounded morose and pitchy. I thought Archie sounded just fine and I like the song when he sang it on the show. An opinion cannot be BS.

And I never said “we’re all too old to get the hip currentness of Archie” or that contestants under 18 never do well. I said absolutely nothing like that. The fact that you’re assuming I said that means you missed my point entirely. Or that you were looking to assume something about what I said and failed to see where I qualified my statements.

I will explain one more time. When Jordin and Archie were on the show they sang primarily AC, adult-oriented material. Now they don’t. When Jordin performed OSAAT on the AI7 finale not only did it not help the song, but she was ravaged online for her performance. It was sad.

I didn’t say this was Archie’s best performance–it wasn’t. Dude can sing, and he was a bit sick, and he was tired, but he was certainly nowhere near as bad as some people have made him sound. Online Idol fans can be so hypercritical–I’m guilty of it myself sometimes. But does that change the fact that the song is lyrically aimed at a demographic that isn’t Idol’s primary audience? No.

You arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t saying that David is putting out another album so fast because Jive is following what the Jonas Brotherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s are doing are you? Like that was their plan all along? The only reason Jive is putting out another album for Archie is because this one is over and done.

You can believe whatever you want. Fact is, neither one of us is in Jive’s boardroom, so neither one of us knows exactly why they’re doing what they’re doing.

The Jonas Brothers sell a lot in the beginning and then taper off quite quickly, btw. They aren’t selling any more than Archie is right now. They were already more famous with that audience, though, so they sold more to start. They aren’t big on CHR, either.

We collect information from approximately 25,000 metered households –source Nielsen media ratings

I know that TV shows live and die by Nielsen ratings but with my own experience I know that the 25,000 households (try as Nielsen might) are not completely reliable as to who is watching. Considering that when I had my family at home only the “main” TV was metered and the 4 others in the household were not. If my household is any indication of normal than the adults were watching the “big” TV while the kids were off in other parts of the house. So when I filled out the questionaire, of course I indicated 2 adults.

After having done a Nielsen survey I can attest for the inacurracy of the entire system. Sometimes the TV was on just for noise, or one program (watched) just bled into another (not watched). So whenever people use the demographics of the Nielsen ratings to validate who is watching, I have my doubts.

I thought Cook got grade A promo for his album and first single. Miles beyond anything Jordin got last year. So I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see how his fans can complain about the support heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s gotten. Unless they expected that level of support to go on forever which it couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t.

Huh? I said it’s nice to be an established artist, because you get TV promo for your second single– what part of that was complaining about his first single and album promo? I was making a simple observation– just as something to note for myself as I start noticing these marketing things more. I was actually merely surmising that, well, another data point: DC’s definitely not an established artist yet. He’s got a fantastic start, but he’s got a long way to go still (needs some big radio hits) before he gets to Kelly’s point. I’m not quite sure what was complain-y, or for that matter, what relevance the support Jordin got has to do with all this? Yes, let me state/agree that DC had Grade A plus album promo– even tho it doesn’t really have anything to do with my original point. Better?

Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s tweet showed what a smart kid he really is under that somewhat goofy exterior. He knew he was bad and isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t ashamed to admit it.

I think in this business, being smart about your career may mean filtering yourself a bit– you never know how the media would take that kind of self-deprecation. One minute you get good buzz from the media, and positive reviews, then the online blogs get wind you hated yourself, and the online opinion could swing the other way, and you lost all that good buzz. I think, the best thing to do after a bad performance is to suck it up, wipe it from your brain, and do better next time. Don’t dwell on it, don’t make excuses either. That’s just my opinion. YMMV.

Soundscene, There is no way I can respond to you without breaking several board rules. I’m sure everything you just said makes sense to you. LOL. That’s great. Have at it. I just… I mean… have fun. That’s all. LMAO.

I draw conclusions based on who the people are voting for, and the age brackets of the primary Idol audience (and who isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t viewing as much as they were before).

Insufficient. Your original assertion generalized demographic appeal. The gradual shrinking of audience just makes the sample size smaller. It, however, doesn’t measure the complexity and diverse taste of that sample.

Soundscene, There is no way I can respond to you without breaking several board rules. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure everything you just said makes sense to you. LOL. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s great. Have at it. I justà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ I meanà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ have fun. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all. LMAO.

Ok, whatever. You have fun, too.

I agree that David didn’t give a bad performance. It wasn’t his best performance of TMH but it also wasn’t bad. I thought it was just okay. I am looking forward to hearing info about his UK tour.

It is still unclear whether that twitter was David. Until I know for sure, I will not make any assumptions.

BTW, I am not a tween or teen. Yet, I like TMH (though not my favorite song on the album), and I thought that although I know David was not at his best (his best is perfection most of the time) he was IMO pretty good. YMMV of course.

BTW, don’t we usually have stats by now about how well the show last night did compared to the night before and to last year? Where do those stats come from?

I thought it was just okay.

Yup. It was okay. Not good. okay. The music sounded – not good. The song sounded bad. Put that all together you got – a song people are not inspired to buy. Not complicated. Not to me.

I think in this business, being smart about your career may mean filtering yourself a bità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ you never know how the media would take that kind of self-deprecation. One minute you get good buzz from the media, and positive reviews, then the online blogs get wind you hated yourself, and the online opinion could swing the other way, and you lost all that good buzz. I think, the best thing to do after a bad performance is to suck it up, wipe it from your brain, and do better next time. Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t dwell on it, donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make excuses either. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just my opinion. YMMV.

I would be surprised if that Twitter came to anything. It’s not that serious to me. But you never know. I guess that’s your point. Heh.

Didn’t Cook get AI to launch his second single? Doesn’t that count as pretty big TV promo. And a much bigger audience than Kelly will get.

It’s not the TV promo that’s launching her second single. Her stuff is more Top 40 friendly (now) and his isn’t. He’s doing fine on HAC.

Soundscene, There is no way I can respond to you without breaking several board rules. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure everything you just said makes sense to you. LOL. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s great. Have at it. I justà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ I meanà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ have fun. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all. LMAO.

Sometimes it is really is better to let it go. I think this all about the fact that the song is not really moving that much on Itunes. So we will probably get to this discussion on wednesday again…

I saw a commercial on Nick for the summer tour. That was cool. I hope this tour has some great promotion.

So we will probably get to this discussion on wednesday againà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Maybe you will, but I sure the hell won’t. I am done following this dude’s stuff. I can’t deal. :bye_tb: That kid will be fine in the long run anyway.

I think it is time to change the discussion. Will the Gokey pelvic thrust become the next new dance trend? Discuss….

The Jonas Brothers sell a lot in the beginning and then taper off quite quickly, btw. They arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t selling any more than Archie is right now.

Are you really serious? That’s not correct!
Their last album “A Little Bit Longer” has sold 1,650,000 in the U.S receiving a platinum certification by the RIAA, and since sold 2,500,000 worldwide. The album was the second fastest selling album of 2008 and the 4th best seller.

So unless Archie sells like a million records this week………

The Jonas Brothers last album was a soundtrack to some movie they did. It came out fairly recently. And it def didn’t go platinum. However they’re still biger stars than Archie.

The album was the second fastest selling album of 2008 and the 4th best seller.

The word “fastest” should tip you off. I said: big sales in the beginning tapering off to little sales. They are more famous–big old ‘duh’ there, so of course they started out with bigger sales and would wind up with more sales. They’ve been doing this a lot longer and that particular audience already knows them quite well.

I think this all about the fact that the song is not really moving that much on Itunes.

Actually, I was discussing this last night before TMH was doing anything. Just not on here.

And the iTunes feed only updated twice today–once in the morning and once just now. It jumped 21 spots. iTunes is being slow.

But do I think it’ll sell as well as a Hot AC song sung on Idol? No. J.Hud’s didn’t sell as well as TMH is, though–maybe rhythmic/urban isn’t in with the audience either? I thought the song was pretty and she sang it well.

Personally, I think DA did a fine job for what it was, which was simply a return guest spot on the show, and no different than any other past contestant coming back to perform. It’s been hit or miss for them in general when they do this and the bottom line is that it’s just one performance that won’t make or break any of ‘em.

Boy this is a tough audience here. LOL. People said Jennifer Hudson sounded bad? I thought she was stupendous! One of the best Idol performances ever. I thought Archie sounded fine last night. It’s not a great song but his vocals were fine for me. He is more confident and polished and it was great to see him. I also thought that Kellie Pickler did fine, with a couple of rough notes, and David Cook did fine too. I guess I just enjoy it when they come back and sing, and am not all that critical. But if they sucked I would say so. Without hesitation.

If that was really Archie twittering, I agree that he is too hard on himself. I thought so during the show. I don’t think it’s normal and it has always worried me about him. I don’t think he was born with it. I think someone made him that way by excessive pressure and criticism, if I had to guess.

Wow. The defensiveness. Let’s dial it back people.

So somebody doesn’t like Archie’s singing.

It’s not as if somebody killed a puppy. Right?

I see evidence that his fan base is expanding. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a fan, so I know.

Seriously? Just being a fan somehow allows you to peer into the brains of every person in every audience and know what their motivations for buying or not buying albums, songs and concert tickets are? Impressive. :smile2_ee:

Seriously? Just being a fan somehow allows you to peer into the brains of every person in every audience and know what their motivations for buying or not buying albums, songs and concert tickets are? Impressive.

Being a fan means I track where and when people are talking about him. And when he shows up in new places. Not being a fan means you generally don’t do that.

And I don’t care if people didn’t like his singing–that was never the point of anything that I said. In fact, I said it was all opinion.

And I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care if people didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like his singingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’that was never the point of anything that I said. In fact, I said it was all opinion.

Really? Then why all the heated defensive responses to posters who are criticizing him?

Why not just let it go.

Didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Cook get AI to launch his second single? Doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that count as pretty big TV promo. And a much bigger audience than Kelly will get.

Yeah, and Kelly got AI for her first single. AI promo, for anyone, is great. That wasn’t my point. Like I said, my point was, A) wow, I never paid attention before, but I guess some artists do make the talk show rounds for their second singles. Doesn’t appear to be too common, but in any case, DC’s not one of those. And B) Kelly’s a big star, and has lotsa hits under her belt, so that must be one of the reasons why she’s getting the rounds– maybe not, but just my conjecture.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not the TV promo thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s launching her second single. Her stuff is more Top 40 friendly (now) and his isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s doing fine on HAC.

I’m in no way insinuating that CBTM is doing well/poorly due to great/poor promotion. I’m in no way insinuating that IDNHU is doing/will do well/poorly due to great/poor promotion. Just commenting on the fact that I didn’t think too many second singles get talk show spots, but Kelly’s a bit hit on radio now, so it makes sense. SOMEDAY hopefully DC will be in those shoes. Maybe, maybe not.

Anyway, I didn’t suggest a launch on AI is better/worse than talk show appearances– I just think they are diffferent types of promo, and reach different audiences. Hence, it’s worth noticing who gets what and guessing maybe why, in terms of marketing strategy, the artists’ brand. Sorry if I’m being long winded, but I feel like my point is being mistaken so just trying to be overwhelmingly clear. For what it’s worth, when I comment on promo, I’m just trying to gather info and potentially discuss it– not trying to spin stuff into some sort of an agenda or a defense of DC’s sales/promo ratio over another artists’ or whatever. That’s what I wanted to make clear.

Just as a clarification….I use the term “Disney” very generically. It is now the catch phrase for any music that is primarily directed at and marketed to the Tween set. This type of marketing has been going on for generations, in my day they were called “Teen Idols”. These are “singers” that grace the cover of every tween magazine, have excessive merchandising that incorporates the essentials that many kids need, i.e. lunchboxes, notebooks, school supplies, clothing, bedding, posters, etc. Their audience isn’t necessarily into music, parse, but into all of the peripheral “stuff” that surrounds them, including TV appearances, and concerts, and movies.

I just have to say something. Sometimes, I feel bad for Archie, because so many people were hard on him during the season. As annoying or as bad a performer he may or may not have been, he’s a nice kid at the end of the day. So, considering that, I sometimes felt the urge to defend him, when I felt people were being cruel or unfair. That’s what’s happening with Danny this season. I didn’t like him at first, but now I find myself saying “Really? Is he that bad?” And then I start to like him more and more.

But what stops that from happening with Archie is the fact that he already has many fans who will “defend” him no matter what. Fans (I’m not being specific) who become really antagonistic and condenscending at times. Fans who find it funny or ridiculous when you say something negetive about him, and insinuate that you must be either deaf or stupid to have those opinions about him. Then it becomes like a Clay Aiken situation, where his fans make me dislike him more than I actually do. I know fan behavior shouldn’t affect my feelings about idols, but they do.

Hope that wasn’t offensive or anything…

So much ado over one tiny 18 year old boy. I thought Archie was good last night. I think he was just as good or better than Cook, Hudson and Pickler this year. I enjoyed his performance and his brilliant smile. They joy was just oozing out of the boy last night.

On another note, mj I must not understand your guidelines. I have seen a poster here called out as tone deaf and his/her posts being called BS. I thought posters were not to attack each other?

Along those lines, I have a feeling Allison is struggling right now because the Idol audience doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“getà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  young singers. The median age of an Idol viewer is 40, and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still bleeding the younger demo. As long as the young singers are singing AC ballads, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re cool with it. The moment the young singers start to mix it up with anything more contemporary than what would fit on AC and they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get it. They see Allison in her Xena, Warrior Princess outfit and red hair singing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Hot Stuffà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and they think, huhà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ uhà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ ok, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m gonna vote for DANNY! Even Adam trends towards AC half the time. And when he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t, he isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t at the top of the heap on DialIdol. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not exactly breaking through as the front runner.

I’m 40, hate AC, and have power voted for Allison. I love that girl, from her hot topic clothes to her bad ass singing. Will never vote for Danny. So… no.

Did you not see Adam’s popularity bars on iTunes? He’s a frontrunner for sure. That’s more accurate than DI.

ETA: And what about Adam is AC? Seriously. I’m dying here. LOL.

ETA2: Yes, Archie sucked last night. Sorry. At least he has some self-awareness, unlike Michael Johns. LOL.

Sorry if I misunderstood your posts. I’m pretty sure Cook is established enough for Leno and Ellen. He’s probably not on there because he’s doing the college tour. I really doubt he’d have trouble appearing if he was available.

If that was really Archie twittering, I agree that he is too hard on himself. I thought so during the show. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s normal and it has always worried me about him. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think he was born with it. I think someone made him that way by excessive pressure and criticism, if I had to guess.

At six or seven years old, David watched Les Miserables while the family was packing/moving. He was fascinated and watched it over and over until by the next day, he knew all of the songs. He has studied music and the billboard charts endlessly since very young. That is why people often call him a human jukebox. Those are some of the same driven and passionate characteristics two of my children possess, who remind me of David. I do not buy the tmz stories about his dad controlling him and pressuring him because of many things David has said, coupled with his behavior. No one knows for sure, but I have watched him carefully, and I believe he was born that way. I do agree that IF that was his twitter, he was unnecessarily hard on himself. I hope it was not.

On another note, mj I must not understand your guidelines. I have seen a poster here called out as tone deaf and his/her posts being called BS. I thought posters were not to attack each other?

GAH!!!!

Gosh. If I were super-human I could get to posts that break my guidelines the moment they were posted.

But, alas, I am only human and it might take me a few minutes or 10 minutes or 30 minutes especially when I’m trying to run a blog at the same time.

Go back and look for that post. I edited it. It’s gone. So before you call me out, you might want to check your facts first.

Well, since I kinda participated in the bruhaha, I feel I owe mj (and everybody) one.

Hey look y’all! Puppies!

Kittens!

Pandas!

Happiness!

Does that help?

I’m sorry.

Here’s a cute recap of the presentation of Cook’s highway sign. Apparently the Mayor of Blue Springs is being pressured to keep up with Ms. Underwood! LOL.

http://www.lsjournal.com/100/story/28961.html

ETA: I thought Archie was fine. Not-so-great song. Decent vocals. Much improved stage presence!! Jive should release Barriers before they move onto album #2.

Fans who find it funny or ridiculous when you say something negetive about him, and insinuate that you must be either deaf or stupid to have those opinions about him. Then it becomes like a Clay Aiken situation, where his fans make me dislike him more than I actually do. I know fan behavior shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t affect my feelings about idols, but they do.

I think you start to feel this way when there have to be 57 different reasons why don’t like something. It can’t just be that you simply didn’t think it was good. It has to be a flaw in your expectations, your hearing, your age, your demographic. Definitely, the problem lies with YOU, surely not the performance.

Basically, this feeling tends to overwhelm you when the headlines thread turns into Excuse Village.

ETA: And what about Adam is AC? Seriously. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m dying here. LOL.

Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. I’m surprised you don’t know this. As an AI viewer – are you not someone who listens to only AC and hates pop music? You should really be an expert by now.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not as if somebody killed a puppy. Right?

Okay, somehow I can’t get passed this… :downer_ee:

Anyway, i feel sorry for David that he thought his performance was ‘embarrassing,’ I thought it was okay. At least he looked like he had fun.

BTW- MJ, thanks for all that you do in putting this blog together. I know all of us posters can be a pain at times.

BTW, FOD put up your chart from earlier today with TMH and gave you credit by saying:

“Courtesy of Super Idol Woman MJ, from MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Big Blog. . .”

I thought it was appropriate.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Courtesy of Super Idol Woman MJ, from MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Big Blog. . .à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Thank you. .

Well, my favorite part of David A’s appearance on Idol last night was the way he worked the stage, the advice he gave Allison and Anoop and the hug he shared with Allison. If anyone knows about dedicating at least fifteen hours of school weekly on top of all the obligations of AI, it’s Archie. It was just so cute when she ran to hug him.

So that’s the good.

I’ve gotta be honest. On my TV, Archie was off vocally. It was not good. I’ve watched over a half dozen different concert performances of TMH, I’ saw the performances he gave in Asia and this didn’t compare. He had an off night and it’s just unfortunate that it had to happen on his return to Idol in front of over twenty million viewers, even if not all of them could tell he was off. I wish I knew why it happened. As a fan, I wish the people not following his career knew that he can definitely nail that song and performance and that this was the exception not the rule. Oh well.

David has always been startlingly blunt about his shortcomings or what he sees as his shortcomings and he’s so freaking matter of fact and blunt in that regard that it’s caught me off guard a time or two. But I think he’s fine and I didn’t get any real self-loathing from his tweets. But I do think he feels he could have done better and that some fans were let down, which they were. I hope he has a blast on the UK tour and that that makes up for it in a big way.

Hey look yà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢all! Puppies!

Kittens!

Pandas!

Happiness!

Does that help?

hmm tina, the puppies are ‘hung’, the pandas could be attacking each other, and the kittens look angry. lol. The happy kid is cute though.

Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a cute recap of the presentation of Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s highway sign.

Heeey, I might see that soon then. I drive by there a lot.

Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m surprised you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know this. As an AI viewer – are you not someone who listens to only AC and hates pop music? You should really be an expert by now.

Deleting Lady GaGa and Scissor Sisters from my workout playlist as we speak. Adding Archie. I’m so hip.

Peeks in carefully…. :unsure_tb:

How about this peace offering?

Eeeeek! So excited for the Asian peeps! I wish I could goooooooo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhvOUeELw8Q&eurl=http://www.snarkyarchies.com/&feature=player_embedded

I daresay they are cute also and they sure make me happy. haha!

Lol… I just saw Jimmy Kimmel Live and Scott was there playing a Celebrity Challenge game with Uncle Frank and some other dude. They were giving him clues throughout the game, it was pretty funny.

It was funny, Megan Joy made a guest ‘celebrity’ appearance.

the pandas could be attacking each other

Aw, I like the panda picture most of all … it looks like the middle panda’s drunk and the other two are lending him/her a hand.

Sorry, I guess we all perceive these things differently. :smiley2_tb:

Tinawina, next time you might need to load up the minivan and haul everyone straight on over to cute overload.

But, alas, I am only human and it might take me a few minutes or 10 minutes or 30 minutes especially when Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m trying to run a blog at the same time

MJ, how do you do it? How can you write, poste and moderate too, especially with your comments per day up to 1,000 – or more – on show days? I’m in awe. Seriously. So, thanks again.

Anytime I want to download anything idol, I click through from this site. It’s the only concrete way I can think of to show my appreciation. Hope everyone does the same.

hmm tina, the puppies are à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹hungà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢, the pandas could be attacking each other, and the kittens look angry. lol. The happy kid is cute though.

Ha! My bad.

Tinawina, next time you might need to load up the minivan and haul everyone straight on over to cute overload.

lefty, I as SSSOOOO bookmarking that. LOL.

Anytime I want to download anything idol, I click through from this site. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the only concrete way I can think of to show my appreciation. Hope everyone does the same.

True dat. I’m gonna go download some stuff today.

David Cook gave a surprise concert at his high school in Blue Springs South yesterday morning (as mentioned earlier), and someone managed to capture the “white sheet” intro to Heroes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lBSiwHNY6A

ETA: Another article about the exclusive concert:
http://www.examiner.net/davidcook/x50630030/BEST-assembly-EVER-David-Cook-surprises-his-alma-mater-with-concert