Idol Headlines for 03/07/09

Love the Kelly review.

P.S at 4pm on MTV hitlist it is Kelly Clarkson hour with interviews and videos

I’m afraid the one that caught my eyes in that headline is not Kelly Clarkson, but BÃ ©la Fleck (I’d recommend Flight Of The Cosmic Hippo if anyone is interested in his music). Something seems to have been lost in Kelly Clarkson since the early days, I can’t get excited over her new album and don’t like what I’ve heard.

The article about Simon is interesting though, especially the bit where he was told to get out when trying to pitch his idea of a singing competition to the TV execs. Some of these TV people are just clueless about what the public wants, they just keep reprising the same thing year after year, stick to the same formula they know, and won’t take any risks. Perhaps Simon should just name names.

I find it interesting that someone from both MTV and Rolling Stone find Megan Joy Corkrey current. :unsure_tb:

Archie’s official YouTube channel has reached a whopping 50,000 subscribers, and still climbing!

http://www.youtube.com/user/theofficialarchuleta

OK all I noticed so far here was that David Cook said something back on Feb 27th? about releasing the next singles, Come Back To Me and…BAR-BA-SOL. I gotta read that again…WOOHOO!

ETA: So maybe that was from an interview on Monday March 3, about a show on Feb 27.

I’m disappointed that they are using Michael Jackson songs. Artistically, and also, I don’t think it’s appropriate to reward and highlight a person that most people believe is an active pedophile. JMO. I guess if you go away for a few years, anything is forgiven.

I love Kelly’s My Life… song – great beat – but the mom in me wishes she hadn’t had to use the word “suck”. I dont listen to it around my kiddies. I know it sounds a little prude. I cant listen to top 40 around my kids at all. now I’m trying to avoid Brittney’s “If U Seek Amy” song. ugh

Do not like Brit’s song…. :/

Two awesome videos from the show in Morgantown, WV last night: Heroes and We’re Only Honest When We’re Sleeping. Be sure to click on the HD link… Yum.

Doesn’t look like David got a haircut for the CBTM video, but Neal did! LOL

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s appropriate to reward and highlight a person that most people believe is an active pedophile. JMO. I guess if you go away for a few years, anything is forgiven.

I get you, but I think that sometimes humanity is willing to oversee wrong doings in pro of art…I don ´t aprove of Michael Jackson being a pedophile, but I find myself still liking “Smooth Criminal”, Bad and other songs… I don ´t want to see him in my tv any soon but he was and in some way still is an important music figure so I don ´t find that weird that Idol have chose to do a night theme with his songs…

Jolene – Thanks for the vids, and GUH. God, he’s pretty. Hair! and Arms!!

I love “We’re Only Honest” way too much.

I actually think David did get a haircut. I think he’s letting it grow out still but it’s not as scraggly as we’ve seen lately. So I think they cleaned him up for the video shoot.

As far as Michael Jackson, I’ve never liked a think he has done, before or after all his weirdnesses.

As far as Bela Fleck, woohoo the man is awesome!

Aw Lu!!!!!!
I am so glad to see you here and to see you are still a great MOM. I have so enjoyed American Idol thru the years but have had some moments when I have been uncomfortable knowing *young* ears are hearing and seeing some things. Hang in there…….they( your kiddies…) may just make better choices when a little older and able to handle some of this *adult* stuff. (I still remember Katherine Mcphee’s album cover….yikes!) P.S. LOVE Adam but not too cool about the pics that are floating around……*sigh* Pix

Video Idolatry for this week is up… check the shout to AI producer about Jesse… I love the Idolatry producer for it…

I love Idolatry trully, Madly, Deeply for your articles and this video….

Hey Lu and other Elliott fans, there were a couple Taylor interviews where Taylor said he had Elliott come in to the studio and they did Woman’s Gotta Have It together old school… here is an interview posted today http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1541187/discussing_the_distance_with_taylor.html?cat=33

“Woman’s Gotta Have It” is a song from the album where Elliott Yamin joins Taylor Hicks part way through the song blending their voices together. I asked Taylor what made him decide to have Elliott join him for this song.

“I really wanted to have Elliott come in and get in a natural environment with me. I love his voice, I love his natural singing voice and the original Bobby Womack song has this wonderful call and response and duet sounding soul sound. I couldn’t think of anyone better to be able to sing it.”

I then asked Hicks if he and Elliott sang together in the studio or separately and then was mixed together. Taylor’s answer is one I am sure fans of both artists will enjoy.

“No we all recorded together. I called him up, he came over, and we had a couple beers and enjoyed making music with each. We hadn’t gotten to do that since our Shadow Tour during the American Idol tour.”

His answer brings us to the next question. Are there plans for Hicks and Yamin to perform this song together “live” in the future?

“Oh definitely, yes most definitely. “

Some fans think this might happen Mar 18 in LA at the Roxy.. :biggrin_wp:

JOLENE – You bring us the coolest DC stuff! Thanks. Neal looks good with the haircut. What an amazing guitar player. And David sounds fantastic as usual.

cruzceleste Mar 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

Video Idolatry for this week is upà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ check the shout to AI producer about Jesseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ I love the Idolatry producer for ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I love Idolatry trully, Madly, Deeply for your articles and this videoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

Thanks for the tip. As Idolatry points out, Jesse and Ricky weren’t the only ones screwed — Junot, Mishavonna, Felicia, Kristen McNamara and, most of all, AI music fans.

I am grateful that we have MJ and Slezak to get us through. The. Worst. Season. Ever.

^Don ´t forget adorable little man Jim Cantiello…

On the Sat Mar 7 4:17 AM PST update of the Mediabase AC chart for the week of Feb 28 – Mar 6, ten out of forty, 25%, fully one fourth of the slots were by Idol alums. Yay team!

04 David Cook – Time Of My Life
06 Daughtry – What About Now
08 David Archuleta – Crush
13 Jordin Sparks – One Step At A Time
20 David Cook – Light On
23 Taylor Hicks – What’s Right Is Right
29 Melinda Doolittle – It’s Your Love
32 Kelly Clarkson – My Life Would Suck Without You
35 David Archuleta – A Little Too Not Over You
39 Jennifer Hudson – Spotlight

Two awesome videos from the show in Morgantown, WV last night: Heroes and Weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re Only Honest When Weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re Sleeping. Be sure to click on the HD linkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ Yum.

Wow, Jolene. Thanks!

Young fans swoon over ‘Idol’ David Archuleta

The temperature of the Barrymore Theatre increased about 10 degrees when David Archuleta bounced on stage Friday night. The air was suddenly sticky with teen girl adrenaline and Bath & Body Works perfume. Cell phone screens glowed and blinked like fireflies in the stage rush. His first song was practically smothered by their hyperventilating shrieks.

Things settled down by the time the 18-year-old American Idol runner-up get into his second song, “Barriers.” But he still followed it with a good-natured plea that the crowd not crush each other in excitement.

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After the show, an exalted and sated audience flowed out onto Atwood Avenue. A limo was even waiting for one lucky girl — a Make-A-Wish Foundation recipient who even got to spend some time with Archuleta earlier in the day, the limo driver said.

more at link
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heres a nice vid of the a cappela ending he does for My Hands, along with WFM as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoGIc7syPMU

“Best Thing Ever” on Vh1 was quite snarky just saw on tv..Let put it this way Scott’s backstory maybe helping him a bit ..did not go under thier radar….
Someone can find the link..?

Megan Joy Corkrey being compared to Feist? What are these people smoking ?
I smell a fix!

AH HA….He’s back!!! Missed ya MrRJ.

Some fans think this might happen Mar 18 in LA at the Roxy..

Cochem… If so, I sure hope there’s some video of it! I read that interview this morning. it was a really good read!

***waving to Pix!***

Cochem, thanks for the article about Taylor and Elliott. Also hoping for video if it happens….

I know it’s completely off subject, but I wonder does anybody noticed that Jamar (Danny’s friend) was a contestant back in AI3?
I bring it back because in the brief time that he appears, he makes a very bad impression.

Speaking about Jamar, I read someone quoting this from him about Danny, but I can’t find the source. Does anyone know where this is from?

‘It was a means to get America to to take notice, but he would never ever ever use Sophie’s passing to get further’

Because to me, that 1st line sounds very very bad… “meant to get America to take notice”? That totally implicates Danny in using the situation for his benefit in the early rounds.

Speaking about Jamar, I read someone quoting this from him about Danny, but I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find the source. Does anyone know where this is from?

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹It was a means to get America to to take notice, but he would never ever ever use Sophieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s passing to get furtherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢

It was from an interview with Milwaukee’s Fox 6 news and it pretty much buries “poor innocent Danny.” I guess the fact that Jamar says Danny would “never” exploit it to get further is supposed to be comforting.

Valentin432, I don’t recall seeing Jamar during season 3. Can you describe what he did and during which round?

Speaking about Jamar, I read someone quoting this from him about Danny, but I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t find the source. Does anyone know where this is from?

http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-090305-gokey-controversy-usmag-vid,0,7094376.worldnowvideo

Valentin432, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t recall seeing Jamar during season 3. Can you describe what he did and during which round?

During the first Hollywood round, the contestants had to chat a little bit and he says: “It’s all about money, money makes the world go around, you all want money, I want money”.
Not really inspiring when you’re supposed to be the next american idol.

I guess the fact that Jamar says Danny would à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“neverà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  exploit it to get further is supposed to be comforting.

Maybe so, but we already know that’s not true. Proven by the fact of his brother-in-law holding her picture up when his group of 12 sang.

Thanks for the link, Ashley19. Guess Jamar thought he was helping? Huh.

I will be so disappointed if Gokey wins this year. The whole thing reeks of exploitation, plus he’s just not as good as he thinks he is (see: Over-showing previous contestants. Douche).

I can’t imagine Rolling Stone likes Megan or maybe I just don’t get it. I think she is annoying and not a very good singer, very pretty though except for the huge tattoo down her arm.

As much as I love some of MJ’s songs, I also tend to think he has earned his outcast status. I don’t have a problem with artists singing Michael Jackson songs but doing a whole Michael Jackson night seems to require severely selective memory about his tendency to like little boys way too much.

Maybe so, but we already know thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not true. Proven by the fact of his brother-in-law holding her picture up when his group of 12 sang.

Proven? hm.

Or maybe? The brother-in-law misses his sister and thought holding up her picture was a (misguided) tribute to her. Dumb? Sure. I mean, behold the outrage spewed at Danny as a result.

I’m not a huge fan of Danny or anyone else this season, but I don’t think the guy is Elmer Gantry.

Thank you very much, Cochem, for the Elliott news. I will definitely buy that song from Taylor’s CD. I hope that the live duet takes place where someone can record it and post it online.

Unfortunately, I don’t think March 18th will the correct date for the Elliott/Taylor duet. Elliott is on a radio tour which just started a few days ago. He is scheduled to be in Richmond, VA, on the 18th and in Texas on the 19th.

As for Danny, I kinda winced at the first part of Jamar’s statement. I hope that Danny and AI will be smart enough to not bring up this deceased wife again. It really would make it seem as if he is using the tragedy as a ploy to get votes.

During the first Hollywood round, the contestants had to chat a little bit and he says: à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all about money, money makes the world go around, you

Wow. :blink_tb: You know, there’s that old saying that your friends reflect a lot about you…

Bringing over some Cookie Crumbs – Just read that David told a fan he had to learn how to sing CBTM backwards… At least part of the video will be in reverse.
I really can’t wait to see what this thing is going to look like!

Also, American Idol Extra is filming at tonight’s show, and David did a segment as Terry the light tech guy.

PS – this is all coming from fan reports, so grain of salt and all that.

well thats errr interesting Jolene… lol

As much as I love some of MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s songs, I also tend to think he has earned his outcast status. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a problem with artists singing Michael Jackson songs but doing a whole Michael Jackson night seems to require severely selective memory about his tendency to like little boys way too much.

Well put. Thank you.

Bringing over some Cookie Crumbs – Just read that David told a fan he had to learn how to sing CBTM backwardsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ At least part of the video will be in reverse.
I really canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wait to see what this thing is going to look like!

Wow, that sounds cool. I wonder what it will sound like backwards, haha.

Woah, that’s strange, I continued to see the hollywood round till the end, Jamar made it in season 3!!!!

He was in the group selected for the semifinals, but apparently didn’t compete?
That’s really strange, nobody noticed that???

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t imagine Rolling Stone likes Megan or maybe I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get it. I think she is annoying and not a very good singer, very pretty though except for the huge tattoo down her arm.

Rolling Stone hasn’t been a legitimate music publication in ages. Their website, especially, has become a haven of snarky and snooty commentary by bloggers who believe they know about music, but instead concentrate more on trends and image.

So I’m not shocked that they love contestants that don’t particularly show musical prowess but look “cool.”

Billboard is the only music publication that concentrates on music as well as the business and marketing end of the music industry in way that understands trends are temporary and images fade. In other words, they listen and understand music without preconception.

There was a contestant disqualified before the semi-finals (top 36) started. George Huff replaced him at the last minute. However, it was NOT Jamar. I don’t remember seeing Jamar at all, though I do remember somebody going off about money during the hollywood round one season.

There was a contestant disqualified before the semi-finals (top 36) started. George Huff replaced him at the last minute. However, it was NOT Jamar. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t remember seeing Jamar at all, though I do remember somebody going off about money during the hollywood round one season.

Yes, it is Jamar, I am seeing the footage right now, he has a yellow beret and is seated in the front row on the group photo.
I saw his KC audition back and Paula did seem familiar with him.

There was a contestant disqualified before the semi-finals (top 36) started.

The one disqualified was Donnie Williams, if I remember correctly.

Another performance of Life Would Suck from Kelly in Germany this time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgh0IHbJ-d4

Another sideways video from last night, but oh so worth your time. I mean, Neal’s backwards guitar solo alone… God, I love this band.

Hunger Strike. HD is your friend.

Ew is the bloggers fav her but IMO it is one step above the gutter in the magazine world. It can hate a fomer/recent contestant quite nasty treatment while kissing anothers a**. The good thing it make TMZ look good because at least it does not hide what it is…

I do not want them to sing together it not worth it..Kelly ..Soo much than better than that cd but money talks..

iTunes SCREWED UP! YAY!

Wildcard Ranking by Popularity Bars:

1. Matt Giraud (about 22% of Brooke’s sales)
2. Anoop Desai
3. Megan Corkrey

(huge gap)

4. Jasmine Murray (about 50% of Matt’s sales)
5. Ricky Braddy
6. Jesse Langseth (about 50% of Jasmine’s sales)
7. Von Smith (about 50% of Jesse’s sales)
8. Tatiana Del Toro (probably purchasing her own mp3 to boost her sales )

How did you get the iTunes numbers?!

lol @ the Tatiana thing…

How did you get the iTunes numbers?!

lol @ the Tatiana thingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I don’t know the actual numbers. All I can see are how they songs are selling relative to one another.

To see if for yourself: go to the iTunes music store, click on any of the wildcard songs, then go to the “Top 36 (Wild Card)” imix, sort by popularity, and voila!

iTunes screwed up several times last season, and this time, they forgot to hide the popularity bars for the wildcard round. (The ones from previous rounds still remain hidden.)

Ah, nice. I tried a bunch of things but I forgot I had the popularity bar hidden. Oops! Haha.

The iTunes #s are proof positive most of the audience just listens blindly to Simon. Jesse’s performance smoked most of the other wildcard contestants.

lol at itunes screw up

The iTunes #s are proof positive most of the audience just listens blindly to Simon. Jesseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performance smoked most of the other wildcard contestants.

…and deafly! Jasmine over Ricky/Jesse? PSH.

Of course they listen to Simon… and he knows it and uses it.

Of course they listen to Simonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ and he knows it and uses it.

The only advantage to that is America still thinks Simon is honest and not trying to manipulate them, which means they will have more faith in the show than us, which means they will still watch… I don’t think that made sense. Oh well, haha.

The iTunes #s are proof positive most of the audience just listens blindly to Simon. Jesseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performance smoked most of the other wildcard contestants.

I totally agree. Jesse and Ricky had the best performances of the night imo. But the results were preditermined, so it didn’t matter anyway. It really annoys me because I would take Ricky and Jesse over Jasmine and Megan anyday. But Simon couldn’t stand Jesse, and he completely ignored Ricky, so whatever.

Young fans swoon over à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ David Archuleta

The temperature of the Barrymore Theatre increased about 10 degrees when David Archuleta bounced on stage Friday night. The air was suddenly sticky with teen girl adrenaline and Bath & Body Works perfume. Cell phone screens glowed and blinked like fireflies in the stage rush. His first song was practically smothered by their hyperventilating shrieks.

I just read the article… it’s pretty accurate. But WTF is up with those batshit crazy comments? The article was fair, end of story. I don’t understand why all these critics have to deal with an onslaught of hate mail for giving a fair and unbiased review. Not everyone is going to love Archie. It’s really not that hard to understand. I guess the archangles are still out in full force.

I didnt even bother to look at the comments.. I didnt really find anything wrong with the article.. just one persons opinion, and we all have them lol.

Yay Matt on Who’s Loving You! I bought it and love, love it!

The iTunes popularity bars for the Wild Card round is a cool find, and I’m tempted to buy Allison’s “Alone” for some reason.

The Michael Jackson theme week is either going to be amazing or a train wreck or both. Should be fun.

I just read the articleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty accurate.
But WTF is up with those batshit crazy comments? The article was fair, end of story.

Pretty accurate if you’re not a fan but still want to give him kudos in the most condescending way possible. lol I knew that was going to rub some people the wrong way.

I thought the Boston Herald review from Archie’s Northampton show was pretty accurate, for example, but that review was a glowing one and I thought it was spot on because I’m a fan and I tend to agree with people who think David Archuleta is an amazing artist with a promising future in the music business.

This other reviewer? I don’t agree with, for the most part.. But I’m not going to waste my time lecturing her in the comments section. Although that is allowed apparently and as long as people disagree respectfully, I don’t see the problem.

Why does Brent Keith’s myspace page say
Record Label: 19 Entertainment
Label Type: Major

?

Whoa, about this Jamar thing. Was he really in Season 3? I was really disconnected from the show that season.

Why does Brent Keithà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s myspace page say
Record Label: 19 Entertainment
Label Type: Major

Maybe because he’s still under contract to them. The Top 24/36 sign agreements with 19 that last about 6 months (can’t remember exactly how long).

The iTunes #s are proof positive most of the audience just listens blindly to Simon. Jesseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performance smoked most of the other wildcard contestants.

I just read somewhere that Jesse has a 5 song disc out somewhere? Does anyone know about this and where I could purchase it?

Thanks!

Matt’s “Whose Loving You” is pretty cool. I just bought it and love it too.

There’s a new interview with Archie on Z101. It sounds like Moroccan might be his favorite new food. Haha!
There’s also an interview with David Cook from a few weeks ago at the same link, in case you missed it.
Also at the same link, is an interview with Leslie Roy, who is the opener for Archie’s concerts.

^^^

It’s on YouTube now…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZJU1OgaC0A

Oh my hell, those Morgantown vids. Thank you Jolene. No, seriously, thank you. I full screened and high def’d this beauty* and this bad boy and then had to go have a :smoke_tb:. Jeebus.

Oh, and it would be just like WTF Cook to take the most vanilla song on his album and make a hella ambitious concept vid. Stoked.

*must turn computer screen sideways for maximum effect

I just read the articleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty accurate. But WTF is up with those batshit crazy comments? The article was fair, end of story. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t understand why all these critics have to deal with an onslaught of hate mail for giving a fair and unbiased review. Not everyone is going to love Archie. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s really not that hard to understand. I guess the archangles are still out in full force.

The lessons learned from the damage done to Clay by the Claymates have been lost on Archie’s fans. Pissing off columnists with insulting, defensive posts and email, just creates a negative perception and makes them (and Archie by default) a permanent target of scorn. Same thing with bugging radio station djs and programmers. And yet not one slightly negative comment can be left alone, it is defend, defend, defend until there are bloggers and columnists around the country who think his fans are a bunch of lunatics.

I just read the articleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty accurate. But WTF is up with those batshit crazy comments? The article was fair, end of story. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t understand why all these critics have to deal with an onslaught of hate mail for giving a fair and unbiased review. Not everyone is going to love Archie. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s really not that hard to understand. I guess the archangles are still out in full force.

The lessons learned from the damage done to Clay by the Claymates have been lost on Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans. Pissing off columnists with insulting, defensive posts and email, just creates a negative perception and makes them (and Archie by default) a permanent target of scorn. Same thing with bugging radio station djs and programmers. And yet not one slightly negative comment can be left alone, it is defend, defend, defend until there are bloggers and columnists around the country who think his fans are a bunch of lunatics.

Eh, maybe, or maybe this is just typical for any artist that has passionate fans. I read a review of Kelly’s new CD in the Chicago Sun-Times the other day. The review sounded fair to me and was written by a well-regarded music journalist, but the Kelly fan comments that were posted to me sounded way over-the-top. All the same, it didn’t change how I think about Kelly. I guess it depends on who you are a fan of and your perspective. If DJ’s and programmers are up in arms about Archie’s fans, why is he on the music charts with 2 singles?

but the Kelly fan comments that were posted sounded way over-the-top to me.

You can not compare 5 or 6 OTT comment by Kelly fans to 80 from Archie’s. It’s not even the same. Most long time Kelly fans don’t bother with those things.

Sometimes I think people like to pick on Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans as just another way of picking on Archie.

But there have to be some strange ones.
What I find a little disturbing is to read comments about Archie in Idol related articles, which have nothing to do with him.
I believe it be something like a shout out, but for me it comes across as very freaky.

Eh. I’ve read similar defenses of Jason and Cook in comments sections whenever the review has been less than glowing. Less so for the other season 7 finalists (and I never paid attention in earlier seasons) but they appear to have smaller fan bases. Someone writes an article, and by supplying a comments section invites response. People respond. Makes sense to me.

I don’t really follow Archie fans much but I get the sense they’re mostly teens (tweens). I know there are older fans too of course. But that’s the sense from the reviews/pics posted. And teens are expected to be OTT above their fav. Middle aged women (Claymate) fan bases aren’t given the same leeway. I’ve seen a few comments comparing Archie fans to Claymates here. I’m not seeing it myself. (I’m out of the loop though).

I don’t think Archie fans are hurting him. Seems like the same defensiveness all fanbases get into.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really follow Archie fans much but I get the sense theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re mostly teens (tweens). I know there are older fans too of course. But thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the sense from the reviews/pics posted.

Archie has a huge teen/tween fanbase and you could argue they are his bread and butter right now but he also has a healthy and large adult fanbase and they are usually underestimated. He has the best of both worlds, imo. The younger fans are sometimes given first dibs on the front rows at these concert venues and they are the teen girls are the most prone to loud shrieking of course but that’s all part of a normal concert experience.

When I skimmed the comments yesterday, I thought a majority of the fans who chose to respond to the review and didn’t agree kept it respectful and kept to the facts. This morning I see some non fans have decided to fan the flames and try to provoke a fan war over there. It’s interesting that those who think being a fan of others makes them so much more mature when that kind of behavior proves otherwise.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really follow Archie fans much but I get the sense theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re mostly teens (tweens). I know there are older fans too of course.

Archie comes from AI, like all AI guys, he has a good number of cougars after him that show OTT behavior.
I don’t think these kind of comments on articles hurt Archie much or at all, it’s just something that can be used to mock him by haters or people who like to pick on these things. Their relationship with radio could hurt him… but not this.
As for that review, it wasn’t that bad. The part that is making the fans more upset isn’t actually new in a review. Last week I think the same idea was written by another reviewer, but it was in the middle of a more glowing one so people probaly didn’t catch.

Archie comes from AI, like all AI guys, he has a good number of cougars after him that show OTT behavior.

This. Switch “cougars” to “adult females and tweeners” and you have summed up the fanbase for all popular male idol finalists. LOL. Archie is heavier on the tweeners, but both camps are present IMO.

And yes, its OTT in my opinion. The sheer volume of the complaining comments is ridiculous. But that stuff happens all the time for former idols.

No, that was not a hidden slam on Archie. I like Archie.

I don’t think it hurts him. The radio stuff might. This doesn’t, I think.

Don’t forget the male fans. Some don’t like to be overlooked either. LOL

The sheer volume of the complaining comments is ridiculous.

Why? If 80 different people find something to disagree with in the article and comment about it, it’s their prerogative. Each person is only responsible for their own comment.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think it hurts him. The radio stuff might. This doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t, I think.

Agreed. If it did, all the Rihanna fans and Britney fans that get into tit for tat fan wars online would be hurting their careers but no.

If David and these other artists keep making contemporary, relevant, radio friendly music and the label cares and knows how to promote them, they should be fine. OTT fans can ’cause a slight glitch in that area here and there but it’s not as important as the music itself, the artist and the label, and for every nut in a fanbase, there are ten more prudent fans who know the boundaries.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really follow Archie fans much but I get the sense theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re mostly teens (tweens). I know there are older fans too of course. But thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the sense from the reviews/pics posted. And teens are expected to be OTT above their fav. Middle aged women (Claymate) fan bases arenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t given the same leeway. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve seen a few comments comparing Archie fans to Claymates here. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not seeing it myself. (Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m out of the loop though).

Sadly I had to see what all of the remarks were about, so I read the article and maybe 7 comments (they’re pretty long) and one was from a 47 yr. old and another from a 50 something? I want Archie to do well in his career so I hope these comments don’t hurt him.

Until the fanbase name becomes a joke unto itself (Claymates, Soul Patrol), I don’t think fans hurt. Of course calling radio stations demanding they play a song even if it’s doesn’t fit their format won’t help at all.

I looked at the AOL music page which shows the top 25 songs that are being streamed. It’s like the Idol alumni society. Good for a few laughs at least.

Sometimes I think people like to pick on Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans as just another way of picking on Archie.

They make themselves a very easy target. The comments from that review have all the trademark OTT fan bullet points : “You are not a real journalist!” “You misused a word, therefore your entire article is discredited!” “I’m 108 years old and I too am an Archie fan so you should do more research!” And so on and so on. I almost wonder if there’s been some massive fan defection from Clay to DA because the tone and tactics are exactly the same.

You’d think fans would want reviewers to be honest with Archie about what he does that is flawed or annoying so he can improve and get better. Maybe not.

I almost wonder if thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been some massive fan defection from Clay to DA because the tone and tactics are exactly the same.

There are a lot of former Clay and/or Taylor fans who are huge Cook fans nowadays. They’ve admitted it and don’t see it as something to be ashamed of or a point against Cook. I really don’t see the points of insulting these fanbases over and over again. They did not and can not make or break the careers of these guys. It’s arrogant to think they can.

Youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d think fans would want reviewers to be honest with Archie about what he does that is flawed or annoying so he can improve and get better. Maybe not.

I actually didn’t see any constructive criticism in the article that was all that useful but that’s just me. And no one is harder on himself than Archie anyway and he strives to improve with every performance, which the reviewer would’ve given him credit for if they hadn’t wasted time talking about old articles and making assumptions about his fans and what he’ll be doing in ten years.

Many fanbases are like that but Archie’s fans didn’t get voted The Most Fanatic for nothing, right? :happy_tb: They’re starting to have a rep, just like Cook’s and frighteningly like Clay’s before any of all this. I think my problem with situations like that is that there will always be someone who doesn’t like (insert name of your Idol here) and I think it’s just childish and mean to pile on these reporters/writers (i.e. Michael Slezak) about their supposed hackery to their sexual orientation and parentage. And this is prevalent whether your appealing to tweens or grandmas or cougars.

Many fanbases are like that but Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get voted The Most Fanatic for nothing, right?

As someone who happens to be a fan of both Davids, I don’t think the behavior of some Archie fans has been any more over the top than some of the stuff I’ve seen from some Cook fans (Teen Choice Award win notwithstanding). It sometimes cracks me up to see the finger pointing and “we’re so sane and above it all” attitude some fans have towards Archie’s fans, because I’ve seen some of the same OTT defensive behavior towards anyone who fails to bow down at the altar of the season seven winner and show due reverence (for example). Almost all of the larger fanbases from Idol have a good share of OTT fans. Idol just breeds this kind of overinvested, hypersensitive fan behavior in some folks. I’m willing to bet we’ll probably see some of the same stuff from Gokey or Adam Lambert fans during and after this season when the newest fanwars get cranked up. It’s a yearly Idol tradition.

It’s a whole barrel of crazy all around, and one would think that youger/immature kids would be more guilty of this behavior but it really surprises me that the more OTT and meaner stuff come from much older fans.

They did not and can not make or break the careers of these guys. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s arrogant to think they can.

Don’t be too sure about it. I’m sure Clay never expected his fanbase to be such a nuisance that they became a punchline on Conan, Leno, in magazines, etc, and I’m sure he never expected to go on those shows and be asked about his weird, OTT fans. Clay’s career ended up becoming secondary to the antics of the Claymates. Clay once had a functioning pop career too, with a varied fanbase.

Archie does have his rabid fans, to the extent that they blast any fan poster who says anything negative about his career. I used to read the comments sections on his fansites but I can’t tolerate them anymore, and I really like David and have enjoyed watching him blossom over the last few months. I find it really sad that some of his fans find it impossible to hear anything negative and go into attack mode when others don’t see David as the second coming. Many of the moderators on the fan sites have posted, over and over, that the “over the top” attacks on reviewers needs to stop, but there will always be the insane few that just don’t get it…they feel that they have to defend Archie and they do it with the the same “street lingo” that they use in their daily lives. Hopefully, someday, these imbeciles will grow up and learn that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and that is all that a review is!

I saw no fanbase plan to comment on that article anywhere so there is no “piling on.” People clicked on the article link through here, a fansite or google alert all on their own and left a comment based on what they agreed or disagreed with. So how this is being blamed on a group effort is beyond me. Check out any DA fansite and you’ll see the fanabse is thoroughly distracted with actual concert videos, reports, etc. If someone clicks on that link or finds it through google, and they feel like they have something to add, they’re not going to care about the other pages of comments. If the author of the article doesn’t care for the feedback, they can disable the comments section at anytime and it’s over. But I’m sure they’re probably loving that their article generated hits and got a rise out of some people and some calm counterarguments out of others. I have yet to see the blogger who feels picked on because they were disagreed with. If a comment crosses the line, they have the power to delete. It’s really very simple.

Clayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s career ended up becoming secondary to the antics of the Claymates. Clay once had a functioning pop career too, with a varied fanbase.

Are you seriously saying that Clay’s fans are wholly responsible for whether or not his pop career lived up to its full potential? It had nothing to do with the kind of artist he was/is, the music he made, the support of his label, his management, his image, his artistry? I find that impossible to believe. I don’t care what kind of fans Clay had, they are not responsible if he lacked any of those things and it limited him. He was still more successful than a majority of the contestants who have gone through Idol. What is the excuse for the other contestants who don’t have superstardom and lack the fanatical fanbases? All the other runner ups like Blake, Katharine, Justine, Diana and Bo? Are their fans going to be blamed too? How about all the WINNERS who aren’t in Carrie or Kelly’s positions? There are just too many factors involved to blame or credit a fanbase for what becomes of a performer’s career.

The main thing in common between the Claymates and the Soul Patrol is they felt cheated by the show. Clay lost by a very small amount of votes and Taylor won but Chris got all the glory. This was the factor that lead these 2 fanbases to become standout among fanbases. The worst part is most of the scariest, psycho Idol fans are grown women. Then we wonder why the show has lost the young viewers?

It’s embarrassing when “MOM” carries around her flat TV boyfriend.

Archie does have his rabid fans

As do a lot of pop artists. Britney has them, Lady Gaga is starting to get them, TI, Kelly, Chris Brown (some still support him!!), David Cook (yes, seriously, I’ve seen it–there was a blog where an older woman dared say that both Davids are winners, she got sadly attacked for it).

The most fanatical and defensive of fans do not represent the whole. As a part of Archie’s fanbase, I know these people quite well. Most are very reasonable. They’ve worked very hard to try and not be seen as obsessive or OTT. But any fan base that contains screaming girls has a tough time of it–even if those screaming girls are very sensible people outside the presence of the object of their affection.

I can tell you this much–no fan site for Archie is ever going to “sick” the fans on a blogger. Are there a few that go over the top? Yeah, but it’s not a phenomenon limited to his fan base, or young fan bases, or Idol-based fan bases.

Clayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s career ended up becoming secondary to the antics of the Claymates. Clay once had a functioning pop career too, with a varied fanbase.

Clay’s fans could have been quiet, demure folk who requested on radio only once a week, and Clay still wouldn’t have been mainstream enough for lasting mainstream success. His voice, his stage presence, his musical taste–they are made for Broadway, not pop radio. His fans aren’t reason he is where he is. Clay is the reason.

Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re starting to have a rep, just like Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s and frighteningly like Clayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s before any of all this.

What rep? In the Idol world? Who knows about that other than uber-Idol fans who track this stuff? Because I’ve heard PDs from various radio stations say that David A.’s fans are actually really nice, considerate people (A number of DJs at XM Radio have said that David’s fans are by far the nicest when they get them on the phone). Z100 is encouraging David’s fans to call them up. That’s not to say that they always do everything right all the time, but they try. Of course there are a few OTT fans, but the only “rep” is the one that people in the Idol world expect his fans should have.

Dial back the fanwar people.