Idol Headlines for 02/01/12

Kellie Pickler appears on The View today.
Jennifer Lopez appears on Live! With Kelly

Cameron Mackintosh Annoints Samantha Barks As Eponine In ‘Les Miserables’ – The coveted role of Eponine in the Tom Hooper-directed film adaptation of the musical Les Miserables has gone to Samantha Barks. While she’s a newcomer to the screen, Barks starred as Eponine in the London production of Les Miserables in 2010 and reprised the role in the 25th anniversary concert held at the O2 Arena last year. (There were reports that the role would go to Taylor Swift. Glad it went to an artist with Broadway experience) – Read more at Deadline

Dear ‘Idol’ judges: Knock off the nice act and get mean! – When “American Idol” was young and feisty, it made its reputation by taking the dreams of unworthy hopefuls and ripping them to shreds. With Simon Cowell as the judges’ ringleader, delusional applicants would have their voices trashed, their faces likened to those of wild animals, and sometimes even brought back for the finale for another round of mocking.
It was controversial and cruel … and also must-see TV. – Read more at MSNBC

The X Factor Bloodbath Indicates Simon Doesn’t See the Real Problem – But we’re not hopeful that Cowell and Fox understand the true underlying problems with the show. For example, take the predominant complaint that there was no honest criticism on the show, just an indiscriminate labeling of everyone as amazing and “the one to beat.” When Vulture talked to Darnell about it in January, he insisted, “[The judges] are being honest. It’s just not in the harsh way that Simon used to be honest.” So, honest by omission? Look, Darnell is a smart, successful (and delightfully devious!) executive. But he has to realize that the less-than-expected ratings for X and the mildly disturbing falloff for this season of Idol (and, truth be told, the way overhyped success of The Voice, which was far from the blockbuster NBC keeps insisting it is) is an indication that the one ingredient that made early Idol so popular and Cowell so popular is true, untempered honesty, and it’s missing from these two shows. – New York Magazine

Clay Aiken at Kelly Clarkson’s concert

Clay Aiken backstage with Kelly Clarkon’s at her Durham, NC concert last night

Kellie Pickler Has Fans Speeding to Meet Her – Kellie Pickler has been crisscrossing the country promoting her new album, 100 Proof, which hit stores last week. She made several TV appearances in both New York City and Los Angeles, including Good Morning America and The Ellen DeGeneres show, before heading south to Kennesaw, GA and Monroe, NC over the weekend to meet fans and sign copies of her new album. – GACTV

A Minute With: Katharine McPhee star of “Smash” – Q: You are playing a character whose story is a bit like your own — auditioning and hustling for parts.
A: “I thought, finally it was a part that was really, really right for me. I approach acting as always trying to find a piece of yourself in each role … If I read something that is absolutely mind-blowing and fantastic and edgy and dark I tend to stay away from it. You are not really going to get the part. So when I find similarities within myself I get really excited.” Read more at The Chicago Tribune

The Voice judges grace the cover of This Week’s Rolling Stone

Via @TonyThomas

  • Anonymous

    Cameron Mackintosh Annoints Samantha Barks As Eponine In ‘Les Miserables

    I guess the Taylor Swift naysayers can calm down now.  Instead of playing Eponine, Swifty will have to make do counting her millions of dollars.  ;-)

  • Anonymous

    James Durbin has just been announced as part of Rock on the Range, a huge rock festival in Ohio in May, one of 44 bands.  I notice that at least he’s listed with the big names and not part of their Friday night opening acts.

     http://fb.me/1pCWr6iO6

  • http://aquayers.blogspot.com aquayers

    I accidentally found this video on youtube. It’s Tiger Budbill from X Factor,Nicole cut him in judge’s house. It’s his music video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnJzpLL3KV0&feature=related

  • durbfan

    Woohoo!!!!! Durbin Durbin Durbin!!!!!! Squeeeeeeeeee ,,/ ,,/

  • Anonymous

    Well this should be good exposure for James – 30,000 people per day attend that rock festival.

  • Anonymous

    That picture of Kelly and Clay is cute! :)

    I was dubious that Taylor would be given the part, depsite that it had been “offered” to her. Glad they gave it to someone who played the part on Broadway. (and I do actually like Taylor)

  • Anonymous

    That should be good exposure for James. Good for him!

  • Anonymous

    Unsurprising, since it is a smalerl venue, but it looks as if Kris’ show at The Mint has sold out

    http://www.themintla.com/show/detail/55320 

  • Anonymous

    It was only $10 per ticket?  Now that is a bargain!  Why can’t they ever have shows like that in my area?  I want to see Kris too.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Nice promotion for all of the mentors on “The Voice”.  Too bad that last year’s top finishers haven’t had much of that (not saying that any of them deserved a RS cover, but this cover simply emphasizes that “The Voice” is way too much about the mentors and not enough about the contestants).

  • Anonymous

    The coveted role of Eponine in the Tom Hooper-directed film adaptation of the musical Les Miserables has gone to Samantha Barks. While she’s a newcomer to the screen, Barks starred as Eponine in the London production of Les Miserables in 2010 and reprised the role in the 25th anniversary concert held at the O2 Arena last year. (There were reports that the role would go to Taylor
    Swift. Glad it went to an artist with Broadway experience)

    OMG, MJ! I was so happy to see this. This information was being passed around on Facebook last night and I am thrilled that this part didn’t go to TS. Thank goodness the producers didn’t stoop to filling this role with a “box-office draw”. I just wasn’t going to be able to go and see this movie if they put someone who couldn’t act or sing in the part of Eponine!

  • Anonymous

    Believe me, theatre folks are rejoicing. I an being tweeted, emailed and facebooked with the great news repeatedly!

  • Anonymous

    wow at those facebook comments about how sucky the lineup is O_O.

  • durbfan

    Nope not surprising at all, it happens every year. Peeps that have gone in the past get p’od when bands they like aren’t included while bands they don’t like are. No difference this year.

  • Anonymous

    I thought the negativity was funny.  If you don’t think TS was good enough to play the role, that’s one thing.  But some behaved as though she had kicked a puppy.

    I found the whole saga amusing.  But I admit to being jaded.

  • Anonymous

    Yes….I LOVE Incubus.  I can’t believe the comments from people about them.  I went through an Incubus phase a few years ago where that was all I would listen to.  To each their own.

  • Anonymous

    She’s welcome to keep her millions. Having all the money in the world doesn’t make someone a good fit for every part out there. And this was one of those parts that she just is not up to.

  • Anonymous

    Rock on the Range is an excellent start for James in destroying the Idol bias he’s getting in the hard rock world.

    I’m hoping he is prepared for possible major flack from the crowd when they introduce him but is able to keep his cool and hit them straight in the face with the most raucous song they’ve got (I’m thinking Outcast) to silence the critics. James can only play his most hard-edged songs at this venue…..or he’ll get eaten up. It may be his most difficult crowd ever but it will be a great experience nonetheless.

  • Anonymous

    I thought the same exact thing.  He can’t play Love Me Bad there!  Good lord they would eat him alive!  He better play Higher Than Heaven, Outcast, Deeper, and what were the other songs that were the bonus tracks – I think they had a harder edge too.

  • Anonymous

    MJ, when you go to bring the video of the TODAY show’s Kevin Olusola of Pentatonix, which ran this morning, could you also bring over the two extra videos they have about him on their website?

    One has an extended uncut version of the interview with Kevin and the second shows Kevin playing the cello with his idol.

    I have so much more respect for the man after seeing this video! He is an amzing talent.

  • Anonymous

    That’s so metal-like and typical. The complaining about bands and whatnot seems to be part of the rebellious and angry schtick that come with the music.

  • Anonymous

    Oh boy, the judges of The Voice on the RS cover—now THAT will be an interesting article.

  • Anonymous

    Eh, I’d have to agree with them- the only one worth watching would be Incubus. Five Finger Death Punch? THE worst. Might as well have Nickelback. 

  • GS61

    I agree this is great exposure. Good for him getting beyond the Idol stigma.
    As for major flack he’ll get, unless they introduce him as an AL finalist (doubt it), very few will even know who he is.
    These people don’t watch AI! (lol).
    Play the hardest stuff, and let the music speak for itself.

  • Anonymous

    And yet there are lots of comments complaining about Incubus.  I agree, I would love to see them.  But then I like the more mainstream rock myself – I would never go to see Marilyn Manson!

    I guess we better stop talking about it, before MJ yells at us for getting off topic.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent point about many not watching Idol….but I still think word has trickled down among some/many metal followers b/c Priest appeared on Idol with him.

    I also believe it is the Idol stigma that has been a hindrance to James finding someone to tour with. During one interview recently he made comment about how terrific it was that Lauren and Scotty have been accepted into the country fold (he was being asked directly about those two touring w/big names and who he was going to tour with). He didn’t say it bluntly that he hasn’t been accepted into the rock world, but that subtle statement said plenty to me b/c of the timing of the question (this was only a couple weeks ago….remember talks were going on with one band before Christmas and nothing came out of it).

  • Anonymous

    This seems like a good casting decision, but I love Miss Swift.  She is so charming when she sings of young heartbreak.  I know her music helped my daughter cope with some rough spots a few years ago. 

  • Kesia Monteith

    Soul Train’s Don Cornelius died from an apparent suicide this morning, that it has not been confirmed or ruled that it was a suicide. He was 75.

    I know this is not Idol related, but I am sure this show was exposed to and influenced many Idol contestants. This man and his show has changed the way I looked at music and television for good, as I’m sure it has done for many, and have paved the way for many music shows like Idol, the way American Bandstand did before it. RIP Don Cornelius…and LOVE, PEACE AND SOUL!

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/02/01/146198182/don-cornelius-soul-train-creator-dead-of-gunshot-wound?ft=1&f=

  • durbfan

    HTH, Outcast & Liberate would probably the best bets. I think LIR, Deeper, CH & BFM can be rocked much harder in that kinda setting.

  • GS61

    That Idol stigma is tough. I guess some go on Idol for exposure, to get a break in the biz, but then it can backfire. I think rock probably has the most bias of the genres, seeing Idol as a joke. Maybe country is one of the more accepting.
    But if anyone can break the stigma, my money’s on James. That is one tough, driven, ambitious guy. He’s got some rock heavy weights behind him already. Hope others give him the same chance.

  • Anonymous

    Good for James!! It seems that these are the shows he’s been wanting to do. I’m not particularly a fan but it’s nice to see when ppl’s dreams come true.

  • Anonymous

    Another great review from the UK RE: Trespassing:

    http://music.uk.msn.com/features/adam-lambert-reveals-new-album-artwork

     “The title track in particular will be a monster hit if there’s any justice in the world.”

    Adam is doing alot of promo there this week.

  • Anonymous

    I’m ridiculously excited for Samantha Barks being cast over Swifty. There is no way she was going to belt out On My Own. Now I can safely go see the movie.

  • http://twitter.com/tinawinabina Tinawina

    That New York Magazine piece was dead on.  Someone needs to send that to Simon and make him memorize every single word.

    Seriously, I want to kiss whoever wrote that.

  • Leandro Cardim Da Silva

     you aren’t familiar with rock/metal, aren’t you? complaining is the rule but these people complaining go to the show despite that

    there are several famous names of metal / hard rock and alternative hard rock there, so, it’s a very good chance for james make the right contacts.

  • Anonymous

    Vulture: “But he has to realize that the less-than-expected ratings for X and the mildly disturbing falloff for this season of Idol (and, truth be told, the way overhyped success of The Voice, which was far from the blockbuster NBC keeps insisting it is) is an indication that the one ingredient that made early Idol so popular and Cowell so popular is true, untempered honesty, and it’s missing from these two shows.”

    A million yesses to this. When are the producers going to wake up?

  • Anonymous

    Ms Lea Salonga was excited on twitter last night about Samantha’s casting, congratulating her. Theater peeps know Swifty was stunt casting.

    In other theater news, Megan Hilty (Wicked, Smash with Kat) has been cast in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, opening May 9

  • Anonymous

    Call me anxious, but is there a date or time frame that CMA has set to announce the three finalists for New Country Artist of the Year?

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    I just looked at the roster for the show James is going to be playing at. Had to squint to see his name lol. By looking at the top billing performers, Manson, Zombie ect., I think James better work on his vocals and performance or he might get booed/laughed off stage. This isn’t to slight James, but the crowds at these types are shows aren’t the nicest, and are usually blitzed out of their minds.

    Clay Aiken really needs a new hair cut. :) hehe

  • iani

    “James Durbin has just been announced as part of Rock on the Range, a
    huge rock festival in Ohio in May, one of 44 bands.  I notice that at
    least he’s listed with the big names and not part of their Friday night
    opening acts.

     http://fb.me/1pCWr6iO6″

    I’m so happy for James, he has to go there and “taste” the unpleasant too(if it would be some), hope he’ll be mentally prepared for any reaction from those egos.
    Oh God, why I’m not like 20 years younger and go there, my band Volbeat will be  there  too, they have a good fan-base in US and a #2 song in Active Rock with over 1800 spins. Hope we get some news and videos from festival. Hopefully his label will not put him to sing LMB, his official single for rock format is SP.

  • Anonymous

    Honestly, I have read review after review saying that—so why in the world wouldn’t they be leading off the era with this single? (or one of the other uptemo ones, for that matter) At the very least lead-off with it in the UK where he has built up so much good buzz. So confused.

    Love the article from New York magazine—they get it.

  • Anonymous

    Believe me, theatre folks are rejoicing. I an being tweeted, emailed and facebooked with the great news repeatedly! 

    Yes, they are celebrating! The fact that the producers would even consider Taylor Swift for such a role was a slap in the face to the theatre community. 

    Can  you imagine if Lea Michele adopted her best country impression and learned to strum the guitar and TPTB in Country Music started having Lea perform on every country awards show to do her impression of a country singer? The country fans would be livid.

    Same thing with Taylor Swift trying to pass herself off as a Broadway singer or an accomplished actress. She needs to prove herself on some level as an actress before she is handed a major role of this magnitude. She also has such weak breath support, her voice is not the kind of voice that translates well to a song like “On My Own”. There would have been so many problems with trying to make Taylor’s voice match up with the types of songs she was going to be required to sing.

    Taylor is GREAT at what she does! She writes amazing songs and sings them in a heartfelt way and her breathy vocals and that weak voice sound works with her songs. I have nothing against her as a country artist and can understand her appeal, but she wasn’t in any way right for the role of Eponine.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AGWO435FL6UN2ICRVTFLWRJZSA Lexie

    A fan (actually of Hunter Hayes) tweeted the ACMs and they tweeted back, two weeks from yesterday…going to be some of the longest two weeks ever…patient, must be patient…

  • Anonymous

    ACM says they will announce it within the next 2 weeks. They have not given a set date.

  • Anonymous

    New Lee Dewyze interview-he discusses his new album, Idol, and his upcoming Viper Alley concert:

    http://www.lakecountyjournals.com/articles/2012/01/31/98781071/index.xml

    Lee has been working with The Gable Heart Beats Foundation to promote awareness of heart disease and heart screening for younger people:

    http://www.gableheartbeats.org/?p=585

    http://redbeanie.tumblr.com/post/16857332850/lee-dewyze-and-gable-heartbeats-foundation-invite

  • Anonymous

    What a relief.  When Audrey Hepburn got the part of Eliza Doolittle and Natalie Wood got the part of Maria, and when Deborah Kerr got the part of Anna in The King and I, none of them being able to sing, they had to get their voices dubbed for the movie by the same dubber, Marni Nixon.  But why not just cast Julie Andrews for the part of Eliza?  Come on!  Of course TS can sing, but she is not the diva type voice needed for this role!  When they filmed Sweeney Todd, the actors were big, too, but they couldn’t sing the parts as well as they should have, and the result was a mess.

  • Anonymous

    You had to squint?  Huh?  His name is as big as the others.

  • Anonymous

    The reaction was OTT.  Folks acted like a crime was being committed. IMO.

    I was being sarcastic.

  • durbfan

    James most recent performances at Libertyville and Milwaukee were AMAZEBALLS. And rock fans who saw him reported positive reviews, the only criticism was minor kinks with his band.

  • Anonymous

    Who said TS was trying to pass herself as anything?  She was being considered for a role, she didn’t get it.  Where’s the slap in the face?  I imagine lots of singers were considered, she one of many.

    In the end, it was much ado about nothing.  Brodway babies can be happy.

     

  • Anonymous

    Can you imagine if Lea Michele adopted her best country impression and
    learned to strum the guitar and TPTB in Country Music started having Lea
    perform on every country awards show to do her impression of a Country
    singer?

    Two words. Kristin Chenoweth. lol

  • Anonymous

    It would have been a slap in the face if TS had been cast in that role. Taylor Swift does what she does well, there is nothing wrong with that! I wish Taylor the very best in her ongoing career, but I’m happy she didn’t get a role that she wasn’t ready for and didn’t deserve at this time.

  • ronnie

    I didn’t think it would have been the end of the world if Taylor had gotten the part, but I’m glad she didn’t if she was not the best for the role.

    Nice to see Clay and Kelly together.  Though it’s a forgotten thing of the past,  Kelly and Clay’s fans used to have a Fan War between each other, I’m glad they were not affected by it.

  • Anonymous

    Well Idol didn’t hurt Daughtry one bit, so you really can’t blame Idol for James’ lack of sales or tour.

  • Anonymous

    Believe me, no one at that venue is going to care much about the vocals…it’s more about the decibel levels at these rock festivals. lol

     

  • GS61

    Daughtry isn’t really rock. He’s “AI Rock Lite”.

  • Anonymous

    Here is the link to the Kevin Olusola interview on TODAY this morning.

    http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/46219527

    There are a couple of other segments online in which he is also featured.

    In case you don’t know who Kevin is, he is the beatboxer for the Sing Off winning group Pentatonix. He is also an accomplished celloist, speaks five different languages, Yale graduate and was named yesterday to The Grio 100: Class of 2012.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I think that Taylor is a talented songwriter and seems like a nice person.  I’m glad that her music resonated with your daughter and helped her.  However, I feel that Taylor really isn’t a talented enough vocalist and actress to take on the demanding role of Eponine in Les Miz.  Here’s a video of Samantha Barks singing “On My Own”:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYWIVmTBECE

    She’s great, and IMO second only to Lea Salonga in this role.

    Even British theatre isn’t beyond some bad stunt casting, however, as Nick Jonas was cast as Marius there and was chosen to appear in the 25th anniversary concert performance of Les Miz.  He was not nearly up to singing this role.

  • Anonymous

    Nick Jonas, while not an inspired choice, actually did have a great deal of experience on Broadway prior to his role as Marius. His voice was at least passable on the Broadway stage. Nick had breath support and at least a voice in the medium range as far as strength goes.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I thought that Nick Jonas was a terrible choice for that 25th anniversary concert, which (like the much superior 10th anniversary concert) brought together outstanding performers for each of the roles.  If Nick Jonas was the most outstanding Marius that they could find, then that’s pretty sad.

  • Anonymous

    Well Idol didn’t hurt Daughtry one bit, so you really can’t blame Idol for James’ lack of sales or tour.

    Daughtry’s songs haven’t done a lot at rock radio, even though it wasn’t until “Renegade” that his label tried to actively promote him to rock.  Daughtry’s songs are more HAC than rock.  It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if they had released rock songs, since a lot of rock festivals invited them to perform even before the first album was released.  

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I thought that this part of the New York Magazine article pretty much summed up the problem with X-Factor:

    But if true, this is a sign Cowell & Co. haven’t really grasped the problem with X Factor:
    It’s the least genuine, most manipulative of the three major singing
    competitions, and the least substantive, which is saying a lot.

  • larc

    Nick really wasn’t all that bad, IMO.  I wasn’t there, of course, but am judging from the PBS version.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYToP5ZfydE

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Daughtry’s songs haven’t done a lot at rock radio,

    Well, rock radio hasn’t been doing a lot for years. Rock used to be a much broader genre, encompassing so many different styles, very popular, and all over the radio. Now, it’s so limiting that, for the purists, it’ll end up being one band who never gets radio play and who you have to go to a cave to hear. ;-)

  • durbfan

    The purists really should think about whether they’re doing the genre more harm than good, same goes for the metal purists. It really is so sad to see how far the genre that has produced most of the best songs, albums, vocalists, musicians and songwriters OF ALL TIME has fallen WRT to influence in the modern music biz. On the one hand I’m mad at the mainstream’s blatant discrimination against RnR, the artists in this genre no longer get the same promo opportunities cause radio stations & TV sets often don’t have the facilities for plugged performances. Playing hard rock & metal acoustically is blasphemy. But on the other hand I’m also mad that most of the music buying public is still too ignorant and/or lazy to discover new artists through means other than radio.

  • AllenTX

    James’s debut is hardly anything metal, at most a derivative post grunge lite. It’s hard to see how idol is ever a stigma for doing that, Daughtry has already done much much better. And the post grunge bands on the same bill such as 12 stones, Adelitas Way are even way harder than James. 

  • durbfan

    I highly doubt that Daughtry, if he was a debuting artist this year, on an indie label, would have done better than James. Look at his current sales, he’s not going platinum this time around.

  • AllenTX

    doubt all you want. but the fact remains.

  • durbfan

    Compare most rock opening sales from ’06 to most opening sales from ’11 and maybe you’ll get what I mean. If Daughtry debuted this year on a major label, his opening sales would’ve matched Lauren’s. But if he debuted on an indie label his opening sales would’ve matched James. James is on an indie label and didn’t get anywhere near the kind of promo Daughtry did, and rock sales are at an all time low, that is fact.

  • AllenTX

    Of course the sales are down, especially post grunge whose death is long over due. Daughtry is lucky that he caught the tail of the post grunge popularity. All I’m saying is James’ flop has nothing to do with idol stigma, it’s because his music is scraping the bottom of a dying genre. Even a deaf man can tell you what that will lead.

  • durbfan

    OK now that you’ve clarified that, then yeah I agree, it’s not the only reason but it’s a significant one. We’ll see what he and his band come up with in the near future now that they’re starting to write their own material.

  • Anonymous

    Why would Daughtry have to debut on an Indie label? He isn’t and never was at the same level James currently is at. Daughtry got a major label record deal because he had the talent, experience and songwriting ability to convince RCA to sign the fourth place finisher from a season of AI. That wasn’t something RCA typically did. Of course, Daughtry’s promo was better than Durbin’s! Chris earned that by having a multi-platinum album and another platinum album, not to mention his many multi-platinum selling singles.

    Interscope passed on Durbin. He ended up with an Indie label and a single that sounds like a Daughtry throw away. It is what it is. If James can get to the level that Daughtry is at, perhaps a major label will be interested in him in the future. If AI fans were still interested, they would have purchased MOABD. The album is not some Heavy Metal album that AI viewers couldn’t relate to. It is a middle of the road rock offering and AI viewers LOVE their rock guys. They just weren’t interested in Durbin’s music after the season ended.

  • Anonymous

    Here are the other two videos featuring Kevin Olusola, Pentatonix beatboxer and 2nd place finisher in YoYo Ma’s cello competition that are posted along with his feature that ran this morning on the Today Show.

     longer interview http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/46197315

    Kevin plays cello with his idol Grammy winning composer Mark Sumners http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/46193943

  • Anonymous

    Here are the other two videos featuring Kevin Olusola, Pentatonix beatboxer and 2nd place finisher in YoYo Ma’s cello competition that are posted along with his feature that ran this morning on the Today Show.

     longer interview http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/46197315

    Kevin plays cello with his idol Grammy winning composer Mark Sumners http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/46193943

  • fuzzywuzzy

    The point is that for the 25th anniversary concert for Les Miz, the performers are supposed to be outstanding in each particular role (which they were for the 10th anniversary concert).  Although Nick may have been passable, he was a stunt cast for that special concert show.

  • http://twitter.com/ljrTR LJR

    loved that New York magazine article – esp. this: “the one ingredient that made early Idol so popular and Cowell so
    popular is true, untempered honesty, and it’s missing from these two
    shows. Gone are the days when great contestants pushed their way to the
    top, overcoming brutal critiques when they had off weeks, allowing all
    of us to appreciate their ultimate triumph.”

    also like that they point out that for Cowell, it’s all about him and his show, not the singers.

  • Anonymous

    Great pictures today – love the one of Kelly & Clay, I think I saw that on twitter last night.

    The RS cover of The Voice judges is also pretty hot.  They all look great.

  • Tess

    What I don’t understand is why a newbie (with some talent) would latch on to a genre that has pretty much died as far as popular acceptance…Its like I still don’t understand why Daughtry and Cook are trying to force feed us rock and rock lite when only a handful of peeps listen to it and those peeps are usually much more into the golden oldies of rock than the new guys anyway.

    I’m not just looking at the rock guys…but I see the same thing with big voiced girls trying to get into the business with the diva voices and imitations.  I applaud the kids who have gone country, pop-country, and are attempting to break through with some decent R&B, Hip hop, and jazz and psuedo jazz.

    Of course it is a little sad that eras come and go…but music is all about luck and having the right sound at the right time and not trying to imitate a sound that has been given its last rights.  I just feel a little bad for James that he made so much about the fact he was going to bring metal back…that has bitten him in the rear, a bit, I do think.

  • iani

    “Interscope passed on Durbin. He ended up with an Indie label and a
    single that sounds like a Daughtry throw away. It is what it is. If
    James can get to the level that Daughtry is at, perhaps a major label
    will be interested in him in the future.”

    Well, Interscope is pretty busy now with  Gaga, Lana, Pia… it has nothing
     to do with producing/promoting a kind of “sick” guy to make his dreamed rock CD and get some money from a dying genre.  And yes his LMB is a Daughtry throw away, James would rather stay away from Marti Frederiksen (and from DC too). James is lucky enough, he’s gotten a good CD, decent promo, pretty busy guy to have something on the table for his family even though he will not have Daughtry’s level of success.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    What I don’t understand is why a newbie (with some talent) would latch on to a genre that has pretty much died as far as popular acceptance..

    Because that’s the style of music they love, and they’re thinking in terms of making a living at art that’s meaningful to them.

    I’ve been working my way through the Boston Phoenix’s 50 bands, 50 states for 2011. An amazing number of their picks for “best” regional bands are shoegaze, metal, or otherwise distinctly not in the current pop idiom. I also follow, as a music source, a content aggregator called iScream4indie. Many weeks, it seems to be wall-to-wall indie metal. My own local band scene in Phoenix remains metal and hard-rock focused.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Thanks so much for posting those links!  Kevin is a very impressive young man, and you can tell that with his attitude and philosophy on life, that he would go far no matter what he chose to do.

  • Anonymous

    “Flop” is all relative, in my mind James is already a personal success, at just 23 and with two major neurological disorders, he already has a net worth of $600K, is happily married, doing what he loves in playing music, and has a small amount of fame, juxtapose that to my 22-year-old son who has aspergers, not tourettes, and lives off of $770/month SSI.  Anything from this point on is gravy for James.  Not everyone can be Daughtry, Metallica, Scotty McCreery, or the hottest music trendsetter out there.  In the bigger picture he has no “Idol stigma” because where would he be without Idol?

  • Anonymous

    Unsurprising, since it is a smaller venue, but it looks as if Kris’ show at The Mint has sold out

    Maybe a small venue but it’s nice that it sold out a week in advance, showing that there has been buzz about it. To me that’s the great thing about it.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    Of course it is a little sad that eras come and go…but music is all
    about luck and having the right sound at the right time and not trying
    to imitate a sound that has been given its last rights.

    If anything, I see as imitators the performers who try and morph themselves into a different kind of singer than that which they are both good at and love just to remain in the business — such as the ones who are suddenly all country singers or pop dance. I don’t blame Daughtry or Cook or Durbin for doing the music that they care most about and, in most cases, doing it well. It’s an artistic decision, while what is popular on radio these days is not — especially these days when radio is controlled by a few, huge corporations and DJs who “spin the records” and probably loved music from the get-go are given little leeway to actually promote something they “discovered.”

    Cook’s latest album was recently released in Japan and we’ve noticed that radio stations there actually take the whole album and either play it all or play substantial cuts from it. People who listen to radio there are hearing much more than just a single — like we do — if we even get to hear that. It’s a different approach that reminds me a bit more of the “old” days of radio when a DJ would pull out songs off albums and play them just because they like them or take requests from fans beyond the 30 songs that are on their playlist.

    It’s a pretty topsy turvy world when we’re asking creative people to color inside the lines and do only that which guarantees them a paycheck … it kind of sounds like factory work. I guess Andy Warhol would approve. ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/ljrTR LJR

    Eilonwy said regarding artists choosing unpopular genres: “Because that’s the style of music they love, and they’re thinking in terms of making a living at art that’s meaningful to them.” – This may just be the case for my favorite, David Cook.  I think his ambition and his love for a particular kind of music have been fighting – and perhaps doing what he loves has won. who knows. We’ll have to wait and see.

  • Anonymous

    “In the bigger picture he has no “Idol stigma” because where would he be without Idol? ”

    He could be happily married and working in another genre or in another field completely. who knows? Many people with Asperger’s, just as many people without Asperger’s, live productive and valued lives in society at all different levels. There are many on the Autism Spectrum who succeed in the arts, in computer technology, in medical fields as well as fields that are considered “run of the mill ” jobs. Some are not able to achieve to a level without guidance and on -going support. It is the same for people not on the Autism Spectrum.

    Yes having Asperger’s and Tourette’s is a challenge that James has been able to overcome and/or work around. He is to be as commended for that as is anyone who overcomes their own persona demons, disabilities and obstacles. it should e the goal of each and every individual to achieve to the best of his/her abilities, whatever that may be. If someone does that, they are a success.

    The point I am trying to make is that James should be commended for all that he has achieved so far, which is good, especially if he is happy with it.  But, as someone who works with individuals with disabilities who struggle each day to be recognized as a person,  not as a person with…., I think we can recognize James’ success as what it is, success. As a whole person, not someone for which to make allowances.

  • Anonymous

    Interscope is busy, but a record label is never too busy to sign new talent. ITA that James is doing much better than he was before Idol, the majority of the contestants are. I never expected James to have close to the same level of success as Daughtry, just don’t agree with the post I originally responded to.

    I hope James can continue to build his fanbase and continue to provide for his family doing what he loves doing.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ACMLXLYSSX73RNYQOUZWSO2I4U Enough already!

    Pretty sure what the X Factor needs is some X Factor.   Show fell flat first time out.   Not sure even Simon has enough money to make this show into what he thinks it should be.    Viewer are showing big time fatigue on these shows.   It’s all kinda apocalypse.

  • Anonymous

    Sassycatz I already “liked” it of course, but I just have to say that I absolutely “LOVED” everything you said in your last post. Beautiful. I certainly hope that Dave Grohl (Foo Fighters) is right when he predicts that we are on the very cusp of a new music rebellion, whatever form it takes, rock and roll or otherwise.

  • Anonymous

    On a lighter note, I want to marry that adorable picture of Kelly and Clay, not to mention Kelly’s stunning new cover of Gravity. Inter-Idol friendships FTW!

  • Mateja Praznik

    Tim Halperin (AI 10 semifinalist) and Hayley Orrantia cover “What Makes You Beautiful” by One Direction:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcjqMant5s

  • Nele621

    They should ask the public. I think most people didn’t think they needed such a big production for every performance. Get rid of the dancers, for one. Raise the age limit. That should be self explanatory after watching the first season. Let us see more of contestants personality. Short one on one live interviews. Get rid of the groups. Duets only, maybe. Don’t put together groups from the rejects.

    There were some talented people on the show. Melanie was fantastic, as was Josh. Chris wasn’t that good of a singer, but he was charismatic. The most talented person actually won, so that was good.

  • http://twitter.com/Sassycatz Sassycatz

    I don’t think they need to necessarily get rid of the groups. I just think they need to only accept groups who come to them already performing together, like with The Sing-Off. Now, I know some of those groups were newly formed, but they formed themselves in order to compete on the show and were committed to competing together, not solo artists standing next to each other, unfamiliar, and resenting each others’ stage time.

  • Nele621

    Kelly has such a beautiful voice, and she did a great job of the cover. She’s looking good. She sure likes to change her hair color and style, doesn’t she. Hard to understand her when she talks, tho. She sounds mushy.

    Oops. Wrong thread, oh well

  • Anonymous

    Hugh29, that was PERFECTLY said.  I’m sure James is a lot better off than the majority of the people who criticize him also.

    Really none of these Idols are flops, not as long as they are able to work in the music business and not have to go get another day job.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MV64BS4FSISCASL4P656RXAFYQ Kayla

    Good for James for landing a kickass festival! It’s nice to see someone’s dreams coming true, I bet he’ll have a blast performing there.

  • GS61

    When stated like you have and in that context you are 100% correct.
    James is already a success and mainly because of Idol.
    Best wishes to your son.

  • Anonymous

    If anything, I see as imitators the performers who try and morph themselves into a different kind of singer than that which they are both good at and love just to remain in the business — such as the ones who are suddenly all country singers or pop dance.

    I don’t think we’ve seen a lot of people do this, or even have success at doing this.

    Music evolves.  The music that was being played on the radio in 1960 wouldn’t have gotten played in 1940, so why should we expect it to get airplay today?  The same thing is true for music that was being played in 1990.  Artists don’t need to change who they are, but they do need to keep up with what people want, and how they perceive music.  

    Rock isn’t dead.  On the radio, it’s suffering because of people who want to make it accessible to certain people, which is why it seems dead or outdated.  Meanwhile there are other forms of rock that have evolved and merged with other styles of music, such as pop and country.

    I applaud any artist who remains true to himself, but they can remain true and still be current.  In James’ case, current doesn’t mean that he has to be on a major label, or even producing songs that fit popular mainstream formats.  

  • Incipit

    “Music evolves.  The music that was being played on the radio in 1960
    wouldn’t have gotten played in 1940, so why should we expect it to get
    airplay today?  The same thing is true for music that was being played
    in 1990.  Artists don’t need to change who they are, but they do need to
    keep up with what people want, and how they perceive music.  

    Artists have choices – if being who they are is diametrically opposite to being “current” – maybe the are just SOL, ya know? And I couldn’t tell them what they ‘need’ to do – it depends on their goals what choices they make. NMB.

    But back to the music question:

    Music evolves or tastes evolve, elliegrl? – largely a matter of semantics, maybe – except when it isn’t, because tastes are rather fickle – but when a song has good bones, time does not crumble them…and people perceive that about the music. They may call it ‘retro’, styles may just be due for a change – but suddenly, an older style of music is to people’s taste again.

     – which – Idol on the television right now is an example of music played on the radio in the past getting airplay today.  Isn’t that the raw material of every one of these reality shows about a singing contest – music from past decades getting airplay today?  For instance, “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” is 73 years old. (1939) and versions have still charted in this century. (Kylie Minogue 2006)
    Doesn’t Glee dip liberally into the music history pool – and don’t people spend their money for this on iTunes? Some one expected it.

    And there’s always the Game of Covers of songs from the past , sometimes rearranged, sometimes straight  – like the Idol perennial favorite -“I Will Always Love You” – a hit for Dolly Parton in 1974, again in 1984, and again in 1995. There were others who had success with it – but I mention Whitney Houston and that “Bodyguard” soundtrack that holds a chart record – it was a hit for her in a big, worldwide way –  and set all sorts of records – (no pun intended) 18 Years After it was written. Song has good bones. 

    Some time on Google would be fun, no doubt, with hundreds of examples possible -like – “Hallelujah” – Leonard Cohen  – 1984 – not immediately successful – (Lots of other people) –  Jeff Buckley – his cover first charted posthumously in 2006 – 22 yrs later (and Shrek, of all things.) Is that tastes changing – styles coming back into fashion, or just good music?

    Songs hit for all sorts of reasons – but the commercial ‘cater to the public’s current taste’ style of music is less likely to be found on any list, many years after.

    JMO.

    {And – Just for fun – What Not to Sing even gives a nod to the 1940’s – the song tied for first place on their site is Kelly Clarkson’s 2002 rendition of “Stuff Like That There” – from 1945.}

  • Anonymous

    Very good point.  You made me think.  It is so true, that most of the songs produced today may make the artist and record label a quick buck, but it’s doubtful that some of these songs will be played and remembered 20 years from now.  Disco is a perfect example of this – wildly popular for awhile and made lots of money for those producing it, but most of it was just terrible and only good for dancing.  And I’m certainly glad every artist didn’t jump on the disco bandwagon back then and think that was the way to go to make money and be successful, thank God other artists stuck with what they liked, or we wouldn’t have some of the classic rock songs from the 70s to enjoy now that were produced during the disco era!

  • durbfan

    “Disco is a perfect example of this – wildly popular for awhile and made lots of money for those producing it, but most of it was just terrible and only good for dancing.” 

    And that’s where we are again today with electro-pop, which is, in essence, a rehashing of the disco era – dance music is dominating the current airwaves. Oh God please end it so we can rehash the hair metal era instead already!

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the wishes for my son GS61.  Aspies are pretty amazing people in my experience, it’s so hard for young people to find work in general, so it’s doubly hard for people that are a little ‘different’.  He’s a happy person though so all is good.  As far as James, what an inspiration he is to that community!  People have no idea.

  • Anonymous

    Great minds think alike.

  • Anonymous

    Your statements are true, I definitely do recognize what he’s accomplished solely as an artist.  It may be more apropo to say that people with asperger’s have some exceptional gifts to offer but by and large our society shuns them, as James himself has attested to with the perpetual bullying he suffered.  That’s why I choose to also recognize the miracle of what he’s accomplished so far, not so much in spite of his disabilities, but more in relation to society’s disabilities.   Let’s face it, the Durbins and Lamberts of the world only overcome bigotry because they are very good at what they do.

  • Anonymous

    Daughtry is not accepted in the rock world where James wants to go. He is considered a HAC/AC/pop guy.

  • Anonymous

    Love the picture of Clay and Kelly. So happy that they have remained good friends.

  • Incipit

    “It is so true, that most of the songs produced today may make the artist and record label a quick buck, but it’s doubtful that some of these songs will be played and remembered 20 years from now.”

    thirdtime, exactly. And “current” is limited by definition to a particular time. There are artists who want to make music that lasts. (I am also glad that every artist in the 70’s didn’t go for the Disco money.)

    Also. Others have probably mentioned this – but the voracious appetite for singles on Pop radio has left us with a lot of music on the market that’s not going to have much of a shelf-life, because to make it current to the Next Music Fad -if it has to lose all the electronica and the synth tracks – often, not much is left.

    People who wish Idol would use more “current” songs on the show might want to be careful what they ask for. Stripped of the effects and played by Bandzilla, most of these Pop tunes are not ‘singers songs’ – not even very melodic – and the contestant comes off as less appealing, with no way to showcase their voice. Some of them know that – so you get multiple auditions of “Rolling in the Deep” – because it’s actual music.

    Particularly in the audition arena, the less current songs have the advantage – they have been time tested – and even though I could certainly wish for a longer list of selections from the Golden Oldies – they are Golden for a reason, they are flexible enough to allow a singer who knows their voice to pick one where they will sound really good.

    Just a thought.

  • Anonymous

    nvm

  • Anonymous

    Thank you so much for bringing the link of Kevin Olusola.
    I love Pentatonix and I did not know that he just joined the group right before the TV show. And what a talent, intelligent young man.
    Incredible, yeah he is going places.

  • breakdown

    Long live rock and roll!!!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t think that songs that appear on Glee or AI are good examples, because if it wasn’t for the shows, and how these songs fit into the context of the shows, people wouldn’t buy the songs.  

    I’m not saying that people don’t like older songs, because they do.  But quoting the advice that Howard Benson had for James Durbin,

     you can’t go back to the past and try to remake things that have already been done.”

    I love that advice, because it’s true.  People make old school albums all of the time, but they are smart enough to make them accessible to people, which means that a modern audience has to understand the songs.  James, David, Daughtry and everybody else can’t just copy the style, and hope that people are going to buy their albums, because if that’s all that they do, people who like that style of music are just going to buy the original music that came out years ago.

    It’s not about catering to the current style, because that’s just being a hack. It’s more about understanding the current market, what people like, and why they like it, and how they perceive music. A smart musician understands his or her audience. I don’t think that doing that messes with the artistic process, especially since they are making music for other people, and not just for themselves.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Thank you for bringing this point of evolution to the forum.  Many are having difficulty accepting the fact that a few Disco artists have and will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  These artists record other genres of music as well.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    May I join in the well wishes for your son?  I am a Moderator on a Parenting Forum and James had so much support.  There were so many young people between the ages of 6-12 that looked at James as a role model.  Many were very upset that he was eliminated.  Indeed, he is an inspiration to both children and their parents/Grandparents.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    This talk of Pentatonix is bringing back memories of The Sing-Off’s best season.  I don’t know if the show has been cancelled, but I feel their judges are the best of all the reality shows.  They were revelant and helpful, and seemed to get along very well.  Ben Folds has been my favoprite judge. 

  • Karen C

    Since Daughtry has sold multiplatinum and Cook platinum, that’s far more than a few people listening. And there are other artists doing well with rock also.   

  • Karen C

    Since Daughtry has sold multiplatinum and Cook platinum, that’s far more than a few people listening. And there are other artists doing well with rock also.