Idol Headlines for 01/31/10

Lol yes I love hearing that Jennifer brought the house down! Makes me always proud to be a Jhud fan. I love that quote “left the stage in ashes” people at the party on Twitter said she blew the away. I really hope we get video of this that

Slash, I love your work your solos, but stop milkin’ and dragging GnR songs in the mud with the likes of BEP and Fergie with Welcome to the Jungle in the Japan release of your record.

SCOM should only be done With Axl(even though he’s an ass) and the rest of the gunners… A reunion needs to happen to own the world once more, and get back to touring football stadiums like the early nineties. “Here Today Gone to Hell” .. ftw

Article in NY Daily News that mentions the ladies doing well tonight along with a compliment to Adam.

Female artists — with their endless hair, makeup and clothing adornments, not to mention the assertive characters they need to survive in a male-dominated world — make more fetching, changeable and interesting icons than most of their male counterparts. (Adam Lambert to the contrary.)

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/2010/01/31/2010-01-31_grammys_2010_preview_women_on_top_as_beyonce_lady_gaga_and_taylor_swift_likely_t.html

Speakeasy caught up with RuPaul, 49, who happened to be visiting New York prior to the start of New York Fashion Week…..

What do you listen to when you get ready?

Right now it’s Adam Lambert. I am obsessed with Adam Lambert.

For some reason I could not cut and paste the link to the article, but the above is a quote from a WSJ blog article about RuPaul….for some reason I love the idea of RuPaul listening to Adam as he gets ready to go out……

Article in NY Daily News that mentions the ladies doing well tonight along with a compliment to Adam.

Female artists — with their endless hair, makeup and clothing adornments, not to mention the assertive characters they need to survive in a male-dominated world — make more fetching, changeable and interesting icons than most of their male counterparts. (Adam Lambert to the contrary.)

Honestly, I think this pretty much encapsulates the difference between people who like musicians because they produce great music and actors/actresses because they produce great films, plays etc…(edit: ddin’t finish that thought) and people who follow celebrity culture.

And it’s also kind of insulting towards women. It’s not enough for them to be great at what they do, they have to play the ‘model’ role too.

What is quoted above is all about surface image, as though the purpose of these people is to catch the eye and manufacture gossip primarily and the ‘music’ is a byproduct, rather than it being the other way round. And maybe in some of their cases that is true.

I guess that’s why you have two distinct industies. The ‘celebrity’ driven gossip industry – where being an adornment and having endless hairstyle variations is really important; and the real industry, where real people buy music that they like and (increasingly) go to see films that either entertain or interest them regardless of the ‘celebrity’ involvement.

It’s got to be why people coming from those two different perspectives find it hard to view things through the other side’s eyes.

WWFM #2 on Rate The Music:

http://www.ratethemusic.com/index.cgi/rtm?email=&raterid=&chart=rtm_10&AID=10572549&PID=3747368

FYE single seems to be doing well internationally.

The ‘celebrity’ driven gossip industry – where being an adornment and having endless hairstyle variations is really important; and the real industry, where real people buy music that they like and (increasingly) go to see films that either entertain or interest them regardless of the ‘celebrity’ involvement.

Then there are some artists who can straddle the fence and be apart of both worlds. Just because someone is a plain dresser doesn’t necessarily make them the best musician/actor and by the same token, just because someone loves to use hair, clothing and makeup as another means to express themselves doesn’t mean they aren’t talented.

Edit: I know I was stating the obvious above and that the pop aspects of popular music have always been about all that as much as the music.

I’m just feeling curmugeonly. :lol

And it does piss me off, that kind of ‘ah, pat them on the head, aren’t the ladies lovely’ crap.

Seriously, people don’t buy their albums because of the way they dress or their hairstyles any more than they do men’s – do they?

Edit: Undercooked – it just seems to me that men reach ‘Icon’ status, in the music industry at least, by making really great music for a good number of years. With women they have to be into reinventing the image. It just gives me pause for thought.

It’s different in film.

Seriously, people don’t buy their albums because of the way they dress or their hairstyles any more than they do men’s – do they?

I think only the tweens get caught up in that kind of stuff.

Then there are some artists who can straddle the fence and be apart of both worlds. Just because someone is a plain dresser doesn’t necessarily make them the best musician/actor and by the same token, just because someone loves to use hair, clothing and makeup as another means to express themselves doesn’t mean they aren’t talented.

True. And just because someone is a “celebrity” doesn’t mean that their work output is crap. Some of our biggest celebrities today are the people putting out terrific product (both in music, film, and theater.)

Seriously, people don’t buy their albums because of the way they dress or their hairstyles any more than they do men’s – do they?

If the songs weren’t catchy nobody would buy them

Updates:

POP:
28 25 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 2602 2152 450 18.064
+49 Spins
-22 Bullet
+0.607 AI

HAC:
34 33 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 525 435 90 1.798
+22 Spins
+27 Bullet
+0.119 AI

POP:
21 19 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 3681 3188 493 21.698
+41 Spins
-13 Bullet
+0.272 AI

HAC:
10 8 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 2750 2535 215 13.969
+43 Spins
+33 Bullet
+0.213 AI

Itunes:
WWFM = 19
LLWD = 18
WWFM = 1 on Canada

Great updates!

And it’s also kind of insulting towards women. It’s not enough for them to be great at what they do, they have to play the ‘model’ role too.

This is so true. I watched a show that was about ranking great athletes, and for all the male athletes the talk was totally focused on their on field play, but for the females the majority of the talk was on their physical appearance. The people on the panel were actually talking about whether or not someone of the women deserved to be on the list based on how they looked. The sad thing is that nobody on the panel even realized how sexist they were being.

Then there are some artists who can straddle the fence and be apart of both worlds. Just because someone is a plain dresser doesn’t necessarily make them the best musician/actor and by the same token, just because someone loves to use hair, clothing and makeup as another means to express themselves doesn’t mean they aren’t talented.

Yes! Amen to that!

Itunes:
WWFM = 19
LLWD = 18
WWFM = 1 on Canada

wow, they really do love Adam in the Great White North! Beauty Eh!

so weird how LLWD and WWFM seem to be stuck together like glue for the past 2 weeks

“Slash, I love your work your solos, but stop milkin’ and dragging GnR songs in the mud with the likes of BEP and Fergie with Welcome to the Jungle in the Japan release of your record.

SCOM should only be done With Axl(even though he’s an ass) and the rest of the gunners… ”

Actually my first thought was it should be Adam singing it with Slash instead of BEP. I always wanted him to sing it on Idol but figured he couldn’t because of the GNR tussles. Then I saw an interview a little while ago where he said that SCOM was his ‘go to song’ for karaoke and I was thinking he probably kills it but we’ll never be able to hear it.

I guess even if he had sung it last night I still wouldn’t be able to hear it.

Not sure where this chart comes from but FYE is listed as #1 international single and LLWD is #9:

http://www.starmometer.com/2010/01/31/adam-lambert-peaks-to-no-1-of-myx-international-chart/

Mmb:

If the songs weren’t catchy nobody would buy them

Oh, I agree.

I just don’t like that whole aspect of ‘fame’.

It’s not that ‘celebrity’ of that type and talent or achievement can’t go hand in hand.

It can and it does.

But the ‘celebrity’ aspect is still shallow and, personally anyway, very irritating.

And there are plenty of shallow and fairly talentless people who take that particular path to wealth and success.

If people genuinely enjoy dressing up and putting on that kind of a show, fine.

But if dressing up and putting on that kind of show becomes a condition of recognition and success: not fine.

It’s the wrapping, not the substance.

And sometimes, as a culture – or at least as a visibly media cutlure – I think we’re in danger of valuing the former as more important than the latter. That article being a good example.

fadetowhite, I agree with you. There are those who look for fame & stardom at any cost – selling themselves out to vanity – while their bread and butter becomes a distant second in terms integrity. The love and passion for the art of music or performing at the authentic level are becoming less and less and its a dying breed. Normally, and the odds are, a group of ill-fashionistas.

Since the beginning of time, women were to catch our eyes with their dress and adornments! I personally love to see what they are wearing….and now I cannot wait to see what Adam is wearing!;) It isn’t that deep for me….but….I certainly do not buy someone’s music because of their dress style. I like some of Lady Gaga….her outfits….heh…not so much! ( Fadetowhite……being a curmudgeon sometimes is a-okay with me!

so weird how LLWD and WWFM seem to be stuck together like glue for the past 2 weeks

Yup but apparently Kris is liking the top!

(Sorry couldn’t resist!!!)

Lorismile

It’s a radio station in the Phillipines: they really do take the idols to their hearts out there!

http://twitpic.com/10dgyn

Adam, 28 years ago …

By the way:

It’s great to see both Kris and Adam’s singles doing so well!

nice pictures of Kris during his recent interview with youngchavez

http://twitpic.com/10ml42

http://twitpic.com/10mlbb

Mateja, I loved the baby picture of Adam. And LMAO at somebody that said that he looks like he’s asking “Whataya want from me?” Haha.

It’s the wrapping, not the substance.

But it is also fair to say that the “anti establishmentism” of the torn jeans and the holey t-shirt is just as much a “celebrity” symbol as a beautiful gown and some expensive jewels. Many singers and actors have increased their “celebritism” by being the anti anything and it has no more truism than the person who chooses to be seen as social and wearing the trappings of fame.

Many singers and bands and actors have become just as famous for “acting” as though they didn’t want to be famous or known. And this is as much bull-shit as the other end of the spectrem.

And, as shallow as it may be good music doesn’t sell itself…just ask any independent Artist. Advertising has been around since time immemorial and won’t go away soon.

Does anyone know what’s the problem with Clive and the Davids?
Every year the winner and runner up (and sometimes others) are invited to his party, but the Davids. They weren’t last year and I remember people saying maybe it was because Clive wasn’t involved with their albums and people even speculated that from there on Clive wouldn’t have new idols there… well, wrong, the S8 idols were there last night.
It’s no big deal, lol, but it makes me curious.

And, as shallow as it may be good music doesn’t sell itself…just ask any independent Artist. Advertising has been around since time immemorial and won’t go away soon.

Yep, but advertising can focus on the music as much as it can on the wrapping…

Most of the really great albums I’ve bought over the past year – in the UK market – have been because the music has permeated the public consciousness, not because the artist turns up looking glamorous or otherwise at social events.

However, I do agree with your point that image covers a wide range of musical styles and that ‘alternative’ and anti-style can be as much a statement as uber style. Generally the statement that ‘anti style’ is making is that it is all about the music, so that’s kind of a circular argument, though I understand what you’re saying about that having the equal potential being shallow bs! :lol

I guess my point is that the wrapping shouldn’t determine the success or recognition, whatever it might be.

And the fact that it frequently does can be borne out by the many talentless and shallow people (and this is a totally non idol statement – thinking about the wider celebrity culture here) who use it to get attention and achieve ‘success’, where many, many great alternative artists struggle on the sidelines, waiting for that elusive big break.

It just seems to me that, somewhere along the line, we started valuing the wrong things.

i know kesha performed last night at clive’s party and it looks like marc malkin from E! didnt have very good words about her performance (i really hope another new sony artist can have a hit bc ive also heard that shes not very good live, hopefully kris or adam can make a splash bc shes prolly gonna have another hit with “blah blah blah”)-

Favorite last nite: JHud singing Babs (of course). Least fave? K$sha. Like someone doing K$sha in a high school talent show.

anyhoo, the young lady needs to polish stage appearance/performance. and someone please tell me why she needs a huge bodyguard.

@PerezHilton very…was acting kinda drunk but couldn’t tell if it was just an act…didn’t seem very rehearsed.

from @marcmalkin

not good to not sound good at a party with the peeps that were persent last night.

But, honestly, buying public doesn’t care how singers sound live. If they did, the Disney clowns wouldn’t be making so much money off their singers.

Seems like Taryn Ryder from E online didn’t like Ke$ha very much either:

Keisha thinks she is suuuch hot s**t!! Sorry baby you are no madanna…or lady gaga for that matter

from @taryder

It just seems to me that, somewhere along the line, we started valuing the wrong things.

The somewhere along the line started about the same time man started. People with no more substance other than an accident of birth (royalty) were celebrities in by gone eras. And sons and daughters of rich folk have been and still are the fodder for tabloids. Celebrity is not an exclusive club and there are tons of ways to get into being a celebrity. And, I think, that it is unfair to throw everyone into the same tub. Sure, there are ways to get into the club with no credentials other than some good PR but why we tend to think that anyone gaining access is that shallow. Lots of people are famous for having real talent or real skills and they are rewarded for that by being known.

And it isn’t a crime to be a celebrity. Heck….lets think big here. Is Michele Obama “famous” for being Michele Obama or is she famous for being the President’s wife. And I bet the vote would come back 50/50 on that one.

“Does anyone know what’s the problem with Clive and the Davids?
Every year the winner and runner up (and sometimes others) are invited to his party, but the Davids. They weren’t last year and I remember people saying maybe it was because Clive wasn’t involved with their albums and people even speculated that from there on Clive wouldn’t have new idols there… well, wrong, the S8 idols were there last night.
It’s no big deal, lol, but it makes me curious.”

yeah i was kinda curious about that too.. its no biggie but sometimes it makes you wonder…

Brown would like daughter back on ‘American Idol’

Someone should inform Senator-elect Brown (and the AP) that that is impossible, since contestants who make the semi-finals are ineligible to audition for the show again.

Does this guy ever stop pimping his daughters?

Tess – yep, but I think I already said that the image and the talent can go together.

And yes, to some extent it has been going on since time immemorial, but with the advance of technology the celebrity culture has been growing more and more dominant an influence.

Anyhow, I seem to be going round in circles here.

It’s not the fact that talented people sometimes use celebrity to gain success that I’m bemoaning – though I still think it’s a shallow thing for the media to focus on and for people to become obsessed with (and this has been true since time immemorial too!).

It’s that our media culture seem to be more and more dominated by those who play to that celebrity culture – talented or not – and the media does have a big influence on success.

Not the only influence, because they do also respond to ground roots movements and pick up on talented acts who don’t play the fame game.

not good to not sound good at a party with the peeps that were persent last night.

I don’t think it matters, it’s about the sales and/or finished product. I mean Taylor Swift sounded like crap at the country music awards show, where she won an award for best female vocalist. Which yeah, I’m still bitter about her winning over Carrie, which whatever you want to say about Carrie (and personally, I find her boring as frack) she can at least actually sing.

Does anyone know what’s the problem with Clive and the Davids?

Not enough life essences to steal? But really, no idea. It is kind of odd, especially because both Davids are pretty successful.

Seems like Taryn Ryder from E online didn’t like Ke$ha very much either:

Keisha thinks she is suuuch hot s**t!! Sorry baby you are no madanna…or lady gaga for that matter

from @taryder

If Taryn Ryder works at E! Online, she should really learn how to spell Madonna.

Updates:

POP:
28 25 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 2602 2152 450 18.064
+49 Spins
-22 Bullet
+0.607 AI

HAC:
34 33 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 525 435 90 1.798
+22 Spins
+27 Bullet
+0.119 AI

POP:
21 19 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 3681 3188 493 21.698
+41 Spins
-13 Bullet
+0.272 AI

HAC:
10 8 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 2750 2535 215 13.969
+43 Spins
+33 Bullet
+0.213 AI

Itunes:
WWFM = 19
LLWD = 18
WWFM = 1 on Canada

Great updates!

Now on ITunes I see:

LLWD – 17
WWFM – 19

I don’t look at Canada.

These look like good updates, although fetus’ new song had something like +152 spins, so he’s climbing fast!

good updates!

Kris, Allison, and Adam live in LA. Maybe the Davids don’t. (I don’t know where they live, but I don’t think it’s LA.) Maybe that’s why they weren’t there.

mateja, the baby picture is precious.

Baby Adam practiced holding a mic and looked at people in the eyes since day one. Adorable!!

http://twitpic.com/10dgyn

Brown would like daughter back on ‘American Idol’

Someone should inform Senator-elect Brown (and the AP) that that is impossible, since contestants who make the semi-finals are ineligible to audition for the show again.

Does this guy ever stop pimping his daughters?

I’m a mom with 3 sons, of whom I’m very proud, so I understand Senator-elect Brown’s feelings and his wanting to pimp them. Better than being too busy for them. Good for him having rushed back to see Ayla play basketball after having gone to D.C. to meet with the different other senators.

Memo to Scott Brown: Ayla had already been voted on; it is only fair to let someone else get discovered. (and even if that rule wasn’t there, Ayla would still be ineligible due to her recording contract)

Didn’t Archie go to another pre-Grammy party?

I’d be surprised if he hadn’t been invited to Clive’s, because he’s had good success and is in that pop niche.

As for Cook, I’ve given up trying to work out what’s going on with him. Partly, because it’s very confusing; partly, because it has the potential to lead to pointless angsting; and partly, because I don’t know enough about the US (or any) music industry to know whether his current so-far-under-cover-that-he’s-barely-there status is normal in between albums.

I’m just waiting for the next album and hoping the lyrics are more AH/Axium and the music develops the riffs that he’s been speaking about.

I can’t worry about it all and what it all means and whether RCA loves him, hates him or has forgotten that he exists anymore :lol.

Mind you, I don’t think that Daughtry went to any Grammy parties either.

Maybe it’s a anti-establishment rocker thing :lol

Memo to Scott Brown: Ayla had already been voted on; it is only fair to let someone else get discovered. (and even if that rule wasn’t there, Ayla would still be ineligible due to her recording contract)

I meant to add that to my previous post, but got too busy replying to the pimping part, lol. I know there was once talk of doing an Idol all-stars show. Or they can do one where they can bring back some that came very close to making it to the top 12 or something like that. I would have personally preferred her over Melissa for the top 12. Sorry for not being more loyal to a contestant from my home state.

Based on tweets, I believe Daughtry is on tour right now and I don’t think he will be in attendance for anything at the Grammys.

BTW, the pre-telecast (where 99 of the 109 awards are handed out) starts at 1 pm PT/4 pm ET, and is streamed live (but not televised).

Adam is looking at the camera as if to say “where’s the glitter, leather and lace??”

Sen.-elect Scott Brown says he’d like daughter Ayla to have another crack at “American Idol,” where judge Simon Cowell once described her performance as robotic and empty.

She’s a chip off the old block, then.

But it is also fair to say that the “anti establishmentism” of the torn jeans and the holey t-shirt is just as much a “celebrity” symbol as a beautiful gown and some expensive jewels. Many singers and actors have increased their “celebritism” by being the anti anything and it has no more truism than the person who chooses to be seen as social and wearing the trappings of fame.

When entertainers feel they need to “dress down” to create their performance image, it may say more about their audiences than it does about them.

Kris, Allison, and Adam live in LA. Maybe the Davids don’t. (I don’t know where they live, but I don’t think it’s LA.) Maybe that’s why they weren’t there?

Cook has a house in LA (and one in KC). He is in LA this weekend as per his tweet last night

Thedavidcook: laying low this weekend with @ACookOfficial, @nealfingtiemann, and the Dubs. Lovin’ it, but already restless. Vlog will be up in a few days

fadetowhite, yeah archie ended up going to 2 different pre grammy parties(‘family and friends’ and cue the music), but he was also there with the people he was writing with at the time lol

He’s been in LA for the week. Quite a productive week too. Some where in the range of 10 songs co written or written for him this week alone.

Dave is of course back in LA, but not at the Grammys of course:

thedavidcook: # laying low this weekend with @ACookOfficial, @nealfingtiemann, and the Dubs. Lovin’ it, but already restless. Vlog will be up in a few days
about 14 hours ago from web

I’m not going to sweat him not going to the Grammy’s because I didn’t expect him to be invited in the first place. I agree about Daughry, I don’t think they were there last night either. Most of these Grammy events seem to be for Clive’s “favorites” and of course as was noted earlier, Dave and Archie did not work with Clive and of course Andrew recently moved to LA. I thought at first Dave might have been going to LA to do some recording but as has been noted here before, we aren’t going to get a play by play every minute of his comings and goings but it’s fun to speculate though.

i know kesha performed last night at clive’s party and it looks like marc malkin from E! didnt have very good words about her performance (i really hope another new sony artist can have a hit bc ive also heard that shes not very good live, hopefully kris or adam can make a splash bc shes prolly gonna have another hit with “blah blah blah”)-

Lol – not terribly surprised about this. Tik Tok and the other songs on her album are insanely catchy, but really, there’s more autotune than actual singing going on in there. I think Adam would have made a much better pick to perform at the party (no bias here – lol ) because we know (and the industry mostly knows) that his performances are insanely good live! Heck, a J. Hud / Adam duet could have been killer I think Kesha’s riding the Gaga train into town, but without the class or talent of Gaga, jmo.

Now on ITunes I see:

LLWD – 17
WWFM – 19

Great radio updates for the guys! And it’s awesome to see the songs holding so steady (and high) on itunes!

frogcooke:

He’s been in LA for the week. Quite a productive week too. Some where in the range of 10 songs co written or written for him this week alone.

I’ve seen some of the tweets around this: Archie’s having a really productive few weeks!

I’ll be interested to see how his style develops in album two. Honestly, I didn’t like his first one, but I still think he’s a very talented singer and, hopefully, the success of the Christmas album and concerts might allow him a bit more depth and substance on album 2 (from my perspective).

In any case, I wish him continued success.

I agree about Daughry, I don’t think they were there last night either.

Daughtry is currently touring in Europe.

fadetowhite, I don’t think it has anything to do with success or no success. Allison has 0 success and she was invited. I’m not talking about this year… I’m talking about last year. They were not invited, or they’d have been there, I’m sure. Of course if they weren’t invited last year I wouldn’t expect them to be invited this year. I just think it’s strange they’re the only ones who were never there.
And yes, Daughtry has been to that party.

Cook has a house in LA (and one in KC). He is in LA this weekend as per his tweet last night

Thedavidcook: laying low this weekend with @ACookOfficial, @nealfingtiemann, and the Dubs. Lovin’ it, but already restless. Vlog will be up in a few

How do people know they (Davids) weren’t invited to the party, anyway?

If they weren’t, there probably was a good reason. I can’t see why they’d be scorned deliberately. But maybe folks know stuff I don’t know.

I just think it’s strange they’re the only ones who were never there.
And yes, Daughtry has been to that party.

I agree – that is strange. Especially for, as you say, peeps like Allison to be invited, but NOT the Davids last year. The only thing I can think is that Clive wasn’t as involved with their records.

Daughtry is currently touring in Europe.

Oh right…I wasn’t dissing Daughtry; I just noticed that he wasn’t there.

Leome – I just thought Archie was more Clive’s kind of artist. As for Cook, like I said, I’ve given up on angsting.

Who knows whether Archie and Cook were invited last year and turned it down and are now crossed out of vampire Clive’s little black book forever more (though I think Cook may have been in Iraq last year?) or whether he never liked them in the first place, or whether Cook was invited to pre-Grammy parties, but preferred to stay home instead, or didn’t want to answer questions about how it felt not to be nominated (or hoped people would just forget about it) or just hates LA parties or is hated by everyone in the LA/Grammy industry and was snubbed by absolutely everyone…

Who knows: the ways of the Cook are mysterious to behold!

But I refuse to angst!

I’ll just snark about people who like to dress up and play the celeb game instead… :lol

LLWD is up to #16 on iTunes now. WWFM is still at #19. MBD is at #948 (no Matt or Allison is Top 1000). Have to figure the singles sales numbers for Kris and Adam are going to be really good again this week when they get released Wednesday.

Albums on iTunes: Kris is at #104; Adam is at #117 and #131

Bad news: Allison’s album is no longer in the Top 1000 (oh shi—)

Now on ITunes I see:

LLWD – 16
WWFM – 19

We don’t know why the Davids were not at Clive’s party last year and I won’t guess anything about it

yeah but was clive involved with adam, kris, or alisons records? i know peeps here have said he wasnt with the davids, but is there proof hes worked or had a part in season 8 idols? dont think he has, unless someone can prove me wrong

pls have ur friends follow @fantasysprings for updates on @adamlambert!

I don’t know if this is the right place to put this? I haven’t seen any other advertisment for this event.

I’m not going to sweat him not going to the Grammy’s because I didn’t expect him to be invited in the first place.

Are you talking about David not being invited to the pre-grammy show, or the actual grammy’s? Matt G. is going to the Grammy’s. Seems weird that he would go and not David (unless Matt wasn’t actually invited??)

He had one of the biggest CDs last year. Weird he wouldn’t be invited.

Baby Adam practiced holding a mic and looked at people in the eyes since day one. Adorable!!

http://twitpic.com/10dgyn

LOL! He looks a little like Yoda in that pic.

I’m so glad Jamie fox. Isn’t going to judge.I was waiting fo his performance to be over top 5 night!

yeah but was clive involved with adam, kris, or alisons records? i know peeps here have said he wasnt with the davids, but is there proof hes worked or had a part in season 8 idols? dont think he has, unless someone can prove me wrong

Well, maybe “involved” is too strong a word, since my understanding is he’s not really involved in any of the AI stuff much anymore. So, maybe it has more to do with his relationship to the show, or 19 – I’m just making this stuff up – but it seems weird otherwise for the Davids to not be invited, yet, say, someone like Allison to be (and by that I mean, Allison really hasn’t done much success-wise to warrant the invite, whereas the Davids last year had).

Are you talking about David not being invited to the pre-grammy show, or the actual grammy’s? Matt G. is going to the Grammy’s. Seems weird that he would go and not David (unless Matt wasn’t actually invited??)

He had one of the biggest CDs last year. Weird he wouldn’t be invited.

He probably just didn’t want to go. The main reason to go to Clive’s party is to do the red carpet media line. And while that’s not a bad thing, in fact it’s just a part of the business, that just isn’t David Cook, which is probably why he usually flies under the radar, and why he didn’t receive any nominations for the Grammy’s or AMA.

The same thing is true in regards to attending the Grammy’s if he’s not nominated. The main reason for showing up would be to get his picture taken, be seen, and speaking to the press. All of that is important, and helps remind people who he is, but as with Kris, maybe it’s just something that he just doesn’t like.

Awwww baby adam is absolutely adorable <3 <3 <3

Too bad ke$ha was bad last night-I like her :/

I think Kesha’s riding the Gaga train into town, but without the class or talent of Gaga, jmo.

I don’t know. We always have a tendency to downplay the talents of the ladies. Many thought Gaga couldn’t sing, but her recent performances of Speechless has proved the opposite. And most people now know she is a gifted songwriter.

Keshas album is full of hits. She has some majorly good popsongs there and awesome production. She is going to be spitting out hits all 2010. What many don’t know yet is that Kesha wrote all songs on her album. I think she had written something around 200 songs that they chose from before making Animal. She has also written songs for others. I think she has one song on Mileys EP. Time will tell if she is a good performer/singer or not.

Both of them uses a lot of electronic alteration to their voices. That’s what pop artists do these days. That doesn’t automatically mean they can’t sing…

He tweets

adamlambert Grammy day!!!!
8 minutes ago

I would sooooo love to hear Adam sing Sweet Child O Mine!!! Don’t know what he’ll do to avoid all the “she’s” and “her”s on it, but I’m sure it won’t matter… there hasn’t been an Axl-worthy wail in ages, till Adam came along…

About Ke$ha- it doesn’t surprise me that she doesn’t sound great live- like someone above mentioned, there’s so much auto-tone on her songs that it makes you suspicious of her ability to sing… then again, not all good performers are great singers (Janet Jackson anybody?), and if she actually is a talented songwriter, I’m willing to forgive… up to a point…
Ok, I’ll admit it- I want to like her ’cause now she’s Adam’s girl and all, lol!

Now on ITunes I see:

LLWD – 16
WWFM – 19

Good to see LLWD continue to do so well. Kris stans could probably correct me, but I understand it historically seems to get a nice bump on the weekend. 16 is the highest LLWD has gotten to, yes? So it ties it’s previous best chart position here?

Ok, I’ll admit it- I want to like her ’cause now she’s Adam’s girl and all, lol!

Lol – tbh, this is how I feel too Adam loves her, and I think they have great glittery chemistry together, and Tik Tok has grown on me to the point where I’ll readily admit I like it! But, IDK, she ain’t no Gaga (yet) – give it time and we’ll see if she has those kinds of goods.

And when it comes to being the chosen one at Clive’s parties, I still think Adam should have had a leg up over her – her album hasn’t sold THAT well (esp. considering it’s being offered at such a steep discount on itunes), and so she pretty much just has Tik Tok to her credit now. And it’s not like Adam’s songs are sucking on the radio now. IDK, jmo. Just want my Adam performances, that’s all.

Truthiness

The highest LLWD has been on iTunes is #15 — did that 2 weeks ago for couple of days

Wow, just back to my laptop, that article I posted started some interesting discussion.

My initial reaction to the article, without dissecting every detail, is that Adam got mentioned in the same vein as Lady Gaga, Beyonce and Swift. Gaga is in her own league and I think she’s immensely talented and creative. Beyonce and Swift always look classy and are talented women (even if I’m not huge fan of their music personally.) These women put thought into their appearance and I think it’s great! Adam is a male artist who likes fashion and expressing himself through music and his outward appearance as well. It’s just part of him and I think it’s great that he’s getting some notice for it.

I grew up in the 80s, so men with makeup and cool outfits were more the norm, music videos were cool and exciting. Then grunge hit and not showering and looking the exact opposite of the 80s was the norm and those bands were no more artistic to me than the artists in the 80s. (I’ll begrudging give you Nirvana as an exception.) Eventually all grunge bands looked and sounded the same too. Currently there are too many Nickleback clones, music is a cycle.

Now Adam is being recognized in the current cycle which happens to be dominated by the likes of Beyonce, Swift and Gaga. It’s all good if you ask me, because it’s what he loves and he wants to do. I think he’d be real unhappy if he had to dress down

Keshas album is full of hits. She has some majorly good popsongs there and awesome production. She is going to be spitting out hits all 2010.

I won’t deny her catchy songs, that’s for sure. I guess the other part of me is annoyed that someone like Kesha can come along and be big in radio in a similar vein as Gaga (not exactly the same, of course, but sorta the same club-girl, “dirtier” version of Gaga). I feel like, again, it’s so much easier for women like that to break into music than men, and I really wish that would change. It sucks that someone like Adam can have the goods in spades (at least singing/performance-wise) but then have a harder time singing that club music over the women out there right now.

I just really feel more of a male presence in those genres is more than welcome right now. Seeing my local paper cover the grammys told it loud and clear – they have a picture collage of all the big artists on Sunday, and most of them are of the pop diva variety – Beyonce, Gaga, Swift, even Fergie from the BEPs. Where are the men? Other than JT, there really isn’t much of that presence right now in music. Ok, end 2 cents

The Grammy site has just released their times (except for the Grammys themselves, all are streamed online):

12:30 PT/3:30 ET – Pre-telecast red carpet (may see some Idols!)

1:00 PT/4:00 ET – Pre-telecast show (most of the awards handed out then)

3:45 PT/6:45 ET – Main red carpet

5:00 PT/8:00 ET – 52nd Annual Grammy Awards (broadcast tape-delayed until 8:00 PT on the west coast, NOT streamed online) (the performances and big awards)

~8:30 PT/11:30 ET (after the Grammys are over) – After-party

I won’t deny her catchy songs, that’s for sure. I guess the other part of me is annoyed that someone like Kesha can come along and be big in radio in a similar vein as Gaga (not exactly the same, of course, but sorta the same club-girl, “dirtier” version of Gaga). I feel like, again, it’s so much easier for women like that to break into music than men, and I really wish that would change. It sucks that someone like Adam can have the goods in spades (at least singing/performance-wise) but then have a harder time singing that club music over the women out there right now.

Yeah it’s easier for women but hard for them to get respect. Both Gaga and Kesha are fantastic songwriters imo. I just think that if anyone deserves success, they do. And the way Kesha has been selling singles she is probably giving RCA a higher revenue then Adam atm.

Kesha is not known as a strong performer as Gaga is but everyone can’t be the same and work on the same things. To me Kesha is more of a sing/songwriter than Gaga.

The highest LLWD has been on iTunes is #15 — did that 2 weeks ago for couple of days

Cool. Was that part of the whole AI starting again, and Kris’s Ford ads on it? That was a shweet bump to watch happen. Good times. Good times.

But it’s been hanging on in some good numbers since then. Though it did go lower, it didn’t go lower than the 20s since then, yes? Hence the song continuing to sell so well the last few weeks. And with it’s position, it seems like it’s going to have another good week. Platinum for the song seems not only totally reasonable, but will happen fairly soon-ish.

Hmm, I think LLWD and WWFM dropped below 20 when the Haiti songs were releases… I don’t think LLWD has dropped below 25 though.

I just saw on twitter information that if an artist has a record out, their agent just needs to contact Clive in order to get an invite to his party. So it must be Cook’s choice not to attend.

I saw this interesting mix of Cook’s music on You-tube today. There are parts of every one of his songs that are on his record (even bonuses except for “My Last Request”). I will admit that “Time Of My Life” doesn’t seem to fit in with the style of the rest. LOL

David Cook Mix

Albums on iTunes: Kris is at #104; Adam is at #117 and #131

I think iTunes numbers mean more for singles than for albums. Many who want albums want the real thing, not the substandard sonic quality of compressed tracks. Billboard is the best source for album rankings, IMHO. It takes iTunes sales into consideration as well as those by other album sources. The most recent Billboard 200 chart shows For Your Entertainment at #21 and Kris Allen at #101. Unfortunately, Allison’s album isn’t on that chart.

Baby Adam is precious. So he’s always made you feel like you’re the only one in the room….from day one! It’s funny how some of your traits are so evident, even at birth. Those eyes of his are truly a special gift.

Thanks for the Grammy schedule, itsalleternal.
Does anyone have any information as to which time group Adam will be part of? I’m guessing he’ll most likely be doing his thing either during the first or second time slots.

Oops! Sorry I left this off:

Billboard 200 Chart

I meant first or third.

sr4jmc:

I do think that we’re going through something of a throwback to the eighties period at the moment – and the electronica thing in music definitely harkens back to then.

The problem for me is that I didn’t like that fashion in music then – when I was in my teens and primed for music/fashion response! – and I don’t like it now either.

That said, I can certainly admire someone like Lady Gaga who has a strong artistic vision for herself and writes her own music (even if it’s not my thing).

I keep seeing this ‘Nickleback clones’ thing and I guess that must have been true a few years back in the US (before I had any interest whatsoever in the US music scene), but successful acts always spawn imitators, as Lady Gaga is doing now.

However, I just can’t see where all these Nickleback clones are now. They don’t seem to be in the main US charts in any format and they certainly aren’t present in any of the music I’ve recently discovered/heard.

I think that time has passed.

Funnily enough, I did once buy a Nickleback album, quite a few years ago – I think it was their breakout album internationally, after I heard the song ‘How You remind Me’ on the radio. I listened to the album once and then filed it with on ‘mistaken purchases after hearing one good song’ shelf. I haven’t listened to it since.

I’ve never liked them either :lol

Can I just b***ch about how — despite the fact the Grammys are in L.A. — they feel the need to show this on tape delay here on the West Coast? They used to do that with the Oscars, too, until recently. Why can’t they show it live? What else would I be watching at 5 p.m. on a Sunday? I can watch the news at other hours….

Showing stuff on tape delay just ticks me off. Live should be LIVE everywhere…(of course AI isn’t live here either…)

ok…end of rant…

Ha ha!! Baby Adam is an ugly little monkey! But hey- so’s everyone when they’re just born!! We get all squished for hours and hours while mom’s in hard labour… then we come out looking all distorted and wrinkled and blinded…

He’s one fierce baby though- with a mean scowl and a microphone in hand!

yeah to me, kesha performing at clive’s party as the sony “new artist” pretty much means that they will be heavily promoting her for Best New Artist next year. yes her album is full of hits, although they all sound the EXACT SAME. radio just sucks right now lol. the best new arist category typically only has 2 pop artists every year, but its sometime hard to see whos gonna be in it. i mean MGMT and Ting Tings, over Cook? they havent sold very many albums at all, or are well-known, are they? although katy perry didnt get nominated for best new aritst last year, so who nos if kesha will, im just saying that this was her coming out party, but if people’s tweets were true , she didnt really come across as good.

Thanks fadetowhite, I think we’re of similar age. I’m actually quite excited about the 80s returning in it’s own way right now. It’s funny, I was a huge Duran Duran fan and I mean huge back in middle school, posters,etc. George Michael as well. And Adam stirs up the same kinds of fangirly things out of me as when I was 14.

And yes, thankfully for my taste the Nickelback clones are starting to die down. I really liked glammy hair metal in my teens and the rock wail and I loved the Brit pop scene too. So a little of that look and sound coming back is very exciting to me. I still think the Brit music scene is producing some exciting music.

As for the 90s and early 00s, while there was some music that I liked ok, I sure didn’t want to look at many of the bands. Especially the boy band trend. Maybe that’s what killed the music video channels, lol

And i just wore some leggings out to dinner last night. eep!

I can’t wait to see P!nk tonight. Now there is one fierce, talented lady!

Complete program for the Grammy pre-show

Order of categories of Idol interest:

Best Pop Vocal Album (Kelly Clarkson) – Presented on CBS tonight

Best Female Country Vocal Performance (Carrie Underwood) – Scheduled to be presented 51st

Best Country Collaboration With Vocals (Carrie Underwood) – Scheduled to be presented 53rd

Best Pop/Contemporary Gospel Album (Mandisa) – Scheduled to be presented 35th

Best Musical Show Album (Ruben Studdard, Trenyce, Frenchie Davis) – Scheduled to be presented 16th

Last year, Archie was in Hawaii to sing the national anthem at the Pro Bowl. It took place on the same day as Clive’s pre-Grammy party. He may very well have been invited to Clive’s party but, of course, he couldn’t be at two places at the same time. It was probably a prior commitment. Even if wasn’t, if you had the choice of singing to a stadium of 50,000 people for a major football game televised nationally (not to mention the opportunity to tour the beautiful islands) or of being one of dozens of celebrities for a party honoring Clive Davis, wouldn’t you choose to do the former as well?

Imo keshas new blah blah blah sounds pretty much exactly the same as tik tok

luvadamlambert
He tweets
adamlambert Grammy day!!!!

Adam seems excited about what he’s going to do at the event. I am happy seeing him happy.

Imo keshas new blah blah blah sounds pretty much exactly the same as tik tok

Yes, it’s not one of my favourites. It will probably be a big hit though. My favs right now are Kiss N’ Tell, Dancing with Tears in My Eyes and VIP. And a few others. Kiss N’ Tell is like FYE to me, you just wanna dance when you hear it. I think the lyrics are too explicit for it to ever be a radio single though. Too bad…

I think Kesha is terrible. There, I said it. Tik Tok is catchy but I can’t get over the “drunk, valley-girl” persona and the lyrical fascination with beer. (and I like beer). She is a gorgeous girl, but she seems so “flavor-of-the-month” and is trying, imo, way too hard to be cool.

And I do realize that she will be all over the radio for the next year, which is a shame. Although, obviously, lots of people love her (including Adam )

I really liked hair metal in my teens and the rock wail and I loved the Brit pop scene too. So a little of that coming back is very exciting to me. I still think the Brit music scene is producing some exciting music.

I loved the Brit pop era of Blur and Oasis in the 90′s – and was one of the few who really liked both.

In fact I still listen to those albums!

Duran Duran was one of my few forays into straight pop in the 80′s – a friend of mine was a huge fan and copied an album for me: and I still listen to some of those songs when I’m in the mood too.

To be fair, there were some songs in that 80′s era that I liked (The Police, Blondie and The Jam were still going early in the decade for a start, I think) but as a general movement, it wasn’t my favourite at all, especially as the decade wore on: too much mindless drivel (even more so than is usual in the pop charts).

And I think it’s going to be the same for the next year or so: some pop gems surrounded by a lot of twaddle.

We’ll see.

Ps I loathe boy bands and like Pink too.

I also like/liked quite a few George Michael songs, though he was never a favourite.

So, we do have quite a bit in common!

But, I don’t want to wear leggings again – skinny jeans is far enough and it took me a couple of months to take the plunge and buy a pair. I can still remember sewing the bottoms of my skinny jeans up, aged about 15, so that I could hardly get my feet through the gap :lol

You cannot imagine how much I loved duran duran! Simon LeBon – yum. I am all for the return of 80s style glam pop. It was fun, catchy and the artists were easy on the eyes

Does anyone know if Adam knows about WWFM video being #1 this week on VH-1? I haven’t seen anyone comment as to whether he knows. I would have thought he would comment on twitter, but I know he has been busy.

These are the categories being presented on the Grammys:

Record of the Year
Album of the Year
Song of the Year
Best New Artist
Best Comedy Album
Best Country Album
Best Country Performance By a Duo or Group with Vocals
Best Rap/Sung Collaboration
Best Rock Album
Best Female Pop Vocal Performance

all the other categories are being broadcasted on the grammy official website 4pm ET/ 1PM PT

http://www.grammy.com/

http://www.grammy.com/files/pdf/52PreTel_web.pdf

Of the few auditions we have seen, is one of them the next ‘American Idol’?

That list suggests we’ve seen our next Idol winner, or will during this last week of auditions … if it weren’t for Kris Allen. He was considered cannon fodder for the judges by most Idol watchers, when the voting rounds began, since no one knew a thing about him. So much for the voters listening to the producers!

Read more at: The Seattle Times

The “big 4″ are always presented on the telecast, and they generally pick a few from the specific genres, which change annually and often tie into the presenters.

The pre-telecast is starting now. The Larry Batiste Orchestra starts off performing.

99 awards in the next 3 awards!

How sad that those are the only categories they are televising!! No Album of the year????? Seriously??? So sad. No male pop? If Adam or Kris are nominated next year wll they be televised?

It’s all about the performances I guess. To work so hard and to shown on a stream is sad I think.

But, I don’t want to wear leggings again – skinny jeans is far enough and it took me a couple of months to take the plunge and buy a pair. I can still remember sewing the bottoms of my skinny jeans up, aged about 15, so that I could hardly get my feet through the gap :lol

trust me, I resisted. But I found a fab long white button down that just needed some cropped black leggings. Took me a while to succumb to skinny jeans too! I will draw the line at panty hose. I live in FL, there is no need to ever have them in my life again, especially black ones.

Back to the headlines, what is actually being televised and on what station? I hope to see at least some press photos of Adam’s outfit tonight before the taped footage on ET tomorrow. Good luck to all the Idols and I hope they have fun!

And I also was thinking about the auditions and have checked out the Top 24 spoilers and I can’t make a prediction yet. No one jumps out as ‘Star!’ to me, too early I suppose.

How sad that those are the only categories they are televising!! No Album of the year????? Seriously??? So sad. No male pop? If Adam or Kris are nominated next year wll they be televised?

It’s all about the performances I guess. To work so hard and to shown on a stream is sad I think.

To have a decent performance lineup AND air all the categories, the show would have to be like 8-10 hours long.

These shows are just too bloated. Showing all category winners is beyond ridiculous.

Ayla Brown is still a robot. Nothings changed there.

These shows are just too bloated. Showing all category winners is beyond ridiculous.

Yep, but it is only fair for all types of music for there to be 109 categories. Those in lesser known types of music need to be honored too!

The first category of Idol importance – Best Musical Show Album – is next.

West Side Story won for Best Musical Show Album.

Duran Duran was one of my few forays into straight pop in the 80’s – a friend of mine was a huge fan and copied an album for me: and I still listen to some of those songs when I’m in the mood too.

To be fair, there were some songs in that 80’s era that I liked (The Police, Blondie and The Jam were still going early in the decade for a start, I think) but as a general movement, it wasn’t my favourite at all, especially as the decade wore on: too much mindless drivel (even more so than is usual in the pop charts).

I thought 80′s music was fantastic! New Wave was like a breath of fresh air to me after the music of the 70′s. Here’s a list of New Wave songs (some of them aren’t really New Wave, though).

http://www.liketotally80s.com/new-wave-hits.html

(There was also punk, r&b, metal, and hip-hop, it was an innovative time in music.)

I find it extremely hard to believe neither David would be invited last year or this year especially last year when the both of them were more prominent and had current hit CD’s and songs. Judging by DC’s tweet and not really hearing anything else I get the feeling he didnt take part in ANY Grammy festivities that have been happening since he got back from NY. And god no offense to Allison but if level of success gets you an invite I find that pretty laughable. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and I’m in the camp that believes neither wanted to go for whatever reason. sometimes you just dont feel like dressing up and smiling for a hundred cameras.

Maybe the David’s felt less of a need to attend the Grammy Festivities last year since their album and single sales were better than the Season 8 Contestants have been so far. I think all the Season 8 contestants probably need to stay visible more at this point, since their sales are lower so far.

I’m not saying the televise them all but to not show album of the year is beyond strange to me.

I’m not saying the televise them all but to not show album of the year is beyond strange to me.

Album of the Year is one of the televised awards. The Big 4 (Record, Album and Song of the Year and Best New Artist) are always televised.

A radio interview with Adam (scroll down);

http://www.1013.com/cc-common/mainheadlines2.html?feed=353622&article=6701081

Mandisa’s category, Pop/Contemporary Gospel Album, is coming up shortly.

I’m going to watch the Grammys tonight for the first time in a few years. A lot of interesting performers this time around.

Ke$ha is… interesting. She’s like if the female cast of Jersey Shore could sing. LOL. But there is no one hotter than her right now, and there is no denying the girl has worked hard to be where she is. I would not bregrudge Ke$sha her moment in the sun.

I don’t think the Davids not going to Grammy stuff means anything. 1. Both are in recording mode, not exactly a high-PR cycle time and 2. Not everyone single artist has to go to every single high profile event.

I love 80s music. I have a soft spot for catchy, fun pop. That decade was chock full of the stuff. A lot of the newer people seems to be trying to get back to that asthetic.

So far, the non-televised Grammys are boring

Pop/Contemporary Gospel Album: The Power of One – Israel Houghton

Kara’s choices sound just awful. but it’s opinion. Here’s mine: For a judge, get Neil Diamond, Elton John or Barry Manilow, Lionel Richie,or Rod Stewart.

Mandissa didn’t win, and the guy who won looks just like Andrew Garcia! (that auditioned for AI this year)

I’d like to see Bono as a judge. One may dream..

So far, the non-televised Grammys are boring

It’s meant to be more of a formal awards ceremony (business-style) as opposed to a televised spectacular.

Ke$ha is… interesting. She’s like if the female cast of Jersey Shore could sing.

LOL….tinawina that is priceless!!!

So far, the non-televised Grammys are boring

It’s meant to be more of a formal awards ceremony (business-style) as opposed to a televised spectacular.

True.But, that’s why I have it on in the background

I’ d like Simon and Paula to stay as judges

The Cure, The Eurythmics, Madness, Elvis Costello, The Smiths, Alison Moyet, PIL, plus Blondie and The Police and a couple of US acts – REM and Talking Heads (Oh and guilty pleasure Duran Duran). Edit: oh and Roxy Music and Tears For Fears and I liked odd songs here and there.

Those were/are my likes from that eighties list…

But I don’t think many of them fit into the electronica category – or the glam pop one for that matter!

Not Idol-related, but Lady GaGa now has 2 Grammys.

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I love 80s music. I have a soft spot for catchy, fun pop. That decade was chock full of the stuff. A lot of the newer people seems to be trying to get back to that asthetic.”

Well I’m one that didn’t like most of the Fluffy music of the 80′s. I loved the 70′s music – the rock & pop of that era but hated the glam fashion & music of the 80′s so to recycle it now is a backwards step for me . I’m just more into having instruments rather than synthesisers – but its probably because I am a musician myself – I like an authentic sound more than “manufactured”!!

YAY Lady GaGa!

Carrie/Randy Travis won Best Collaboration

Yay for Carrie winning best collab. Best strategy: get nominated in a category Taylor Swift isn’t.

Not sure if this was posted, but EW had a not so positive take on some of the Clive party stuff. Not really calling anyone out in terms of performances, but pointing out that the crowd was not really that enthusiastic about the show in general:

http://music-mix.ew.com/2010/01/31/mary-j-blige-jennifer-hudson-kesha-clive-davis-grammy-party/

Has this been posted yet? It’s Spin Magazine’s take on last night’s pre-Grammy party.

The best line in the article?

“–Adam and Kris were here. So were Katy and Russell. ” …

http://www.spin.com/articles/grammys-inside-clive-davis-annual-gala

Pic of Adam at Grammy’s

http://twitpic.com/10rkeq

http://tweetphoto.com/10120685

http://twitpic.com/10rlhn

he’s shiiiiiiiiinnnyyy!

And I also was thinking about the auditions and have checked out the Top 24 spoilers and I can’t make a prediction yet. No one jumps out as ‘Star!’ to me, too early I suppose.

There is one (female, no names ) from the top 24 list that I really, really like! Really! I will just say I do not remember her audition and know it’s not a prolonged back story type. At least not yet…

Moved to other thread.

Late comment is late, but I just wanted to say I agree with your initial comment very much, fadedtowhite. The condescension toward women performers just drips off that quote.

Seriously, people don’t buy their albums because of the way they dress or their hairstyles any more than they do men’s – do they?

If the songs weren’t catchy nobody would buy them

Don’t both these statements contradict the “SuBo: They only buy her because of her backstory” theory?

Showing stuff on tape delay just ticks me off. Live should be LIVE everywhere…

Not only do I agree, I’m in the process of preparing a zen mantra for the Olympics. Because you *know* that even though they’ll be running live in the Pacific time zone, we’ll *still* be getting them on tape delay. Not that there’s an east coast media bias or anything. *eyeroll*

i mean MGMT and Ting Tings, over Cook? they havent sold very many albums at all, or are well-known, are they?

I have no idea how many albums they’ve sold (MGMT have had at least 2 out I think), but FWIW, they’re pretty well known amongst my personal music dealers. Which is mostly made up of people who like alternative rock, experimental music and the occasional off beat pop song. Meaning Lady GaGa was popular *last year*, but now that she’s gone mainstream, she’s already considered overhyped and passe. But I think we’ve established that what I like is rarely popular.

FTR, I really, really dislike MGMT, whom I consider basically purveyors of tuneless, loud, thoroughly unmemorable stuff that was done waaay better by punk bands 25 years ago. I kind of like one song by the Ting Tings (“That’s Not My Name”). It’s got great energy, but boy, it’s about two minutes too long. It’s really repetitive.

I comfort myself about the non-Cook nom for best new artist by remembering who else has won it. (Christopher Cross anyone?) Of course, if Cook *had* been nominated, I never would have mentioned that. LOL. I’m hopeless.

I thought 80’s music was fantastic! New Wave was like a breath of fresh air to me after the music of the 70’s

*L* Individual music tastes make the world go round.

For me,looking back on the 80s feels like looking back on one big nap between the 70s and grunge, which made me so happy I could weep, because there was finally music around that I could stand listening to.

I think the only people I liked in the 80s were Elvis Costello, Joe Jackson and Sting. Thank god for Brits and Irishmen…

I thought 80’s music was fantastic! New Wave was like a breath of fresh air to me after the music of the 70’s

Heh, I couldn’t stand the 80′s. I preferred the grunge of the 90′s. Bands like Nirvana, Our Lady Peace, Nine Inch Nails, Collective Soul, and Jimmy Eat World. Ahh, the bands of my youth, which I have strangely been gravitating back to lately. Yet my father loved the 80′s for bands like Journey, and Chicago. My whole family has different tastes.
ETA:

I comfort myself about the non-Cook nom for best new artist by remembering who else has won it. (Christopher Cross anyone?) Of course, if Cook *had* been nominated, I never would have mentioned that. LOL. I’m hopeless.

OMG. I hadn’t heard the name Christopher Cross in years until yesterday when my Dad handed me a stack of CD’s to burn to his iPod. And then I come here and see the name again. lol

fadetowhite: The Cure, The Eurythmics, Madness, Elvis Costello, The Smiths, Alison Moyet, PIL, plus Blondie and The Police and a couple of US acts – REM and Talking Heads (Oh and guilty pleasure Duran Duran). Edit: oh and Roxy Music and Tears For Fears and I liked odd songs here and there.

seriously: I preferred the grunge of the 90’s. Bands like Nirvana, Our Lady Peace, Nine Inch Nails, Collective Soul, and Jimmy Eat World. Ahh, the bands of my youth, which I have strangely been gravitating back to lately.

I liked both the group of bands/acts that fadetowhite cited as well as the bands that seriously did. Does that make me a musical ho?

There are always popular artists I won’t like in any particular era (Taylor Swift and Miley cyrus, anyone?) but there are always way more artists that I find that I really dig.

I liked both the group of bands/acts that fadetowhite cited as well as the bands that seriously did. Does that make me a musical ho?

LMAO. Musical ho, that’s a good one. Mind if I use that?

Not at all. Musical ho and proud of it.

Huh. I have to edit in Roxy Music as well. God, Bryan Ferry. Mmm.

Oh, and Peter Gabriel! And Mark Knopfler and Dire Straits.

Hmm, the 80s are looking better than I thought.

…And, I just remembered Echo & the Bunnymen. I guess I wasn’t as a sleep in the eighties as I am now as I thought.

There are always popular artists I won’t like in any particular era (Taylor Swift and Miley cyrus, anyone?) but there are always way more artists that I find that I really dig.

True on both counts, as I’m discovering as my memory for the 80s gets jogged a bit more. heh.

And even though Miley makes me want to jab an ice pick in my ear every time I hear her, I’ve discovered there are some Taylor Swift songs I actually, um, like? I know, I know, but they’re… idk. Hummable?

This stems totally from the first time I actually heard her — her opening ditty on SNL a few weeks back — which I found freaking hilarious. It made me think that anyone that clever might actually be able to entertain me with her real music, and to my surprise, she has.

Though I wish she’d put more of that wit in her songs, which suffer a bit from the same witty persona/earnest song writing disconnect Cook exhibits on occasion.

::crosses fingers for more Cook snark (as promised) on the next album::

What a wonderful Tribute to Michael Jackson! Awesome, just awesome. Four of the singers were outstanding. Loved Carrie and Jennifer – the gals can sing, as well as Celine Dion! I would love to have a copy of the visual presentation of the song!

Sen.-elect Scott Brown says he’d like daughter Ayla to have another crack at “American Idol,” where judge Simon Cowell once described her performance as robotic and empty.

Things like this make me physically sick.

Having Garth Brooks or a Vince Gill as a permanent judge would be interesting to say the least. I don’t mind a country/pop artist as a judge.

That list suggests we’ve seen our next Idol winner, or will during this last week of auditions … if it weren’t for Kris Allen.

I just watched Season 8 auditions yesterday and Kris sang ONE sentence and came back to say, “I’m going to Hollywood.” At the time, I thought he was awfully cute but couldn’t tell what kind of a singer he would be. Nothing indicated that he would be in the Finale and the winner!

Wasn’t sure where else to post this, but E! is now using Adam Lambert’s FYE remix in one of their new promos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxkK3RyweOE

I apologize if this is old news

I also loved the ’80s musically for the New Wave stuff, the Smiths, NIN (1989 Pretty Hate Machine), The Smiths, Cure, Echo And the Bunnyman is another good one (Killing Moon is just beautiful), Prince was great in the ’80s, The Beastie Boys did Paul’s Boutique (1988), which I adore. And tons of music that others here have mentioned.

I was NOT a fan of the hair bands, and treacle like Whitney Houston, and sorry Adam, never could stand Madonna and got over Michael Jackson very quickly. So yeah, I loved all the Grunge reaction to that, as well.

So guess I’m in the musical ho category as well. I’m okay with that.

Raffi would have to be at the top of my 80′s list. He sang one mean “Baby Beluga”. Sharon, Lois and Bram’s “Skiddararinkydink” comes in a close second.

over on the Pulse board they are saying that LLWD will be at #19 pop and #8 HAC when the official mediabase chart is released in the next few hours. so Kris will officially have a Top 20 Pop hit!

it is currently at #16 on iTunes (WWFM has slipped back a little bit, but not too badly — it’s at #23)

I was a big fan of rock, alternative and grunge in the the 80s through 90s, but I felt I should add some love for some of the awesome females as well as males of the non-rock/non-alternative persuasion! These guys also defined that era for me:
80s: Cyndi Lauper, Tracy Chapman, Billy Joel, Annie Lennox, Prince, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Suzanne Vega, Babyface, Heart, Elton John, The Sugarcubes, DeBarge, George Michael, UB40, Janet Jackson, Rod Stewart, Phil Collins and Whitney Houston.
(This was around my tween years so if you think some of these artists are cheesy, just remember that these are the people that I’m actually not too embarrassed to mention!)
90s: Alaniss Morrissette, Sinead O Connor, Mc Hammer, Liz Phair, TLC, Sheryl Crow, Natalie Merchant, Arrested Development, LL Cool J, Missy Elliot, Brian Adams, Madonna (again), Mariah Carey, Matchbox 20, No Doubt, They Might Be Giants, Indigo Girls, Sarah McLachlan, Norah Jones, Salt N Peppa, The Pretenders and Fatboy Slim (LOL).

80s: Cyndi Lauper, Tracy Chapman, Billy Joel, Annie Lennox, Prince, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Suzanne Vega, Babyface, Heart, Elton John, The Sugarcubes, DeBarge, George Michael, UB40, Janet Jackson, Rod Stewart, Phil Collins and Whitney Houston.

Actually a lot[ not all] of these artists had their best music in the 70′s, even though they were still performing in the 80′s but it was the 70′s where their music was defined!! In my opinion some went off track in the 80′s & actually returned with some better music in the 90′s[ eg Elton John]
Of course that’s my taste in music & you may have liked their 80′s style which is fine but ,my point still stands that a lot of their more successful stuff was in the 70′s.

girlygirl
02/01/2010 at 1:32 am
over on the Pulse board they are saying that LLWD will be at #19 pop and #8 HAC when the official mediabase chart is released in the next few hours. so Kris will officially have a Top 20 Pop hit!

it is currently at #16 on iTunes (WWFM has slipped back a little bit, but not too badly — it’s at #23)

LLWD stayed at #16 on ITunes until just a short while ago, and is now at #17. WWFM is #26. I expect there will be further movements, but so far holding steady.

According to Pulse Kris is #18!:
21 18 KRIS ALLEN Live Like We’re Dying 3712 3235 477 21.847

Adam is #22:
28 22 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 2618 2234 384 18.623

Yay for Kris in the Top 20! Nice chart position, boys!

Actually a lot[ not all] of these artists had their best music in the 70’s, even though they were still performing in the 80’s but it was the 70’s where their music was defined!! Of course that’s my taste in music & you may have liked their 80’s style which is fine but ,my point still stands that a lot of their more successful stuff was in the 70’s.

I get your point, but I really think most of those artists had their most successful work in the 80s, regardless of when they defined their own style. I guess the exceptions would be Billy Joel, Heart, Elton John or Rod Stewart. However, they were all still going pretty strong in the 80s and/or 90s, so I think they’re valid to. I love Billy Joel’s 70s and 80s stuff, but I think he changed his style quite a bit in the 80s too. MJ was singing before he could walk, but Thriller, which was one of his most career defining albums, came out in the 80s.

Keel
01/31/2010 at 11:12 pm
fadetowhite: The Cure, The Eurythmics, Madness, Elvis Costello, The Smiths, Alison Moyet, PIL, plus Blondie and The Police and a couple of US acts – REM and Talking Heads (Oh and guilty pleasure Duran Duran). Edit: oh and Roxy Music and Tears For Fears and I liked odd songs here and there.

seriously: I preferred the grunge of the 90’s. Bands like Nirvana, Our Lady Peace, Nine Inch Nails, Collective Soul, and Jimmy Eat World. Ahh, the bands of my youth, which I have strangely been gravitating back to lately.

I liked both the group of bands/acts that fadetowhite cited as well as the bands that seriously did. Does that make me a musical ho?

Well, do you listen to your music mostly at night? Does it make make you happy before you go to sleep? Does someone else take a percentage of your music purchases even though they haven’t really done any work? (Couldn’t resist a Conan Ho-joke reference.) Y’all have excellent taste in music if I do say so myself. That list reads like my iPod. Although I’d tack DePeche Mode on to the 80s run down, and Alice in Chains would top my 90s influences list. RIP Layne .

Seriously:

Posting here, because I went to bed last night before the conversation ended, so I don’t know whether anyone will see it, but what the hell!

I never got into grunge at all during the 90′s and, I believe, only Nirvana really made it in a big way over here.

But, post Cook, I’ve listened to quite a bit here and there. I like Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains and will have to get round to trying OLP at some point.

Is Foo Fighters Grunge or post-grunge? Either way, I love their stuff. Definitely my favourite of what I’ve heard so far.

Keel – I’m a music ho too. I just like what I like and don’t like what I don’t. Fashions and genres are pretty irrelevant. But I do need to either have a strong beat or interesting/great lyrics – and, of course, preferably both – which is why there isn’t too much straight pop on my favourites list: too frequently the beats are aneamic and the lyrics are inane.

But I do need to either have a strong beat or interesting/great lyrics – and, of course, preferably both – which is why there isn’t too much straight pop on my favourites list: too frequently the beats are aneamic and the lyrics are inane.

That’s freaky. I could have written that sentence. Makes sense that you’d gravitate to AIC after the fact. Lyrically Layne and Jerry pretty much put it all out there. It’s sorta eery listening to Angry Chair now.

I think the Foos are post-grunge, alt rock. Or just plain badass.

But, post Cook, I’ve listened to quite a bit here and there. I like Pearl Jam and Alice In Chains and will have to get round to trying OLP at some point.

He’ll start to really make sense in a specific context when you do. He’s such an early 90s kid — it’s written all over his music. I fell in love with that sound all over again.

straight pop on my favourites list: too frequently the beats are aneamic and the lyrics are inane.

What a perfect description of 99% of current pop. It’s like a bunch of people sat in a room together (because it all sounds alike) and tried to come up with earwormy music… and that was the only requirement.

Melody, rhythm, funny or smart lyrics? Who needs ‘em!

I think the Foos are post-grunge, alt rock. Or just plain badass.

I think the Foos are post-grunge too. But just plain badass works best of all. Bwah!

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