American Idol Headlines for 01/27/11

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Today’s Idol Appearances

  • Josh Gracin performs at the Viper Room in Los Angeles. 8 pm. $10 at the door.
  • Lee DeWyze plays a free concert at Sierra Vista Mall, Clovis CA,  Center Court 6-7:30 PM PST.
  • Kris Allen appears on Balancing Act the Lifetime Network,  7-8 am.
  • Elliott Yamin guests on Robert Wuhl’s new syndicated sports radio talk show. Airs 3-6 PM EST.1
  • Ryan Seacrest appears on Jimmy Kimmel Live, ABC

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John Stevens and Ayla Brown will perform at Kevin Youkilis’ charity event on February 3 in Boston. More information HERE (Via BeantownSwing)

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According to Katie Stevens, she and Andrew Garcia will be taping a segment for Extra TV today.

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Aaron Kelly tweets “writing with Janell Wheeler tomorrow :) then I get to see Crystal, Bryan and Tony tomorrow :) I’m excited!!!”

More Idol Headlines after the JUMP…

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Check out a brand new trailer of the movie Soul Surfer featuring Carrie Underwood. The new clip is longer, and has Carrie speaking some lines. See it at Entertainment Weekly. Soul Surfer opens on April 8.

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Crooner Chris Daughtry to rock on Maui in February

KAHULUI, Maui (HawaiiNewsNow) – Catch crooner Chris Daughtry and his band live on Maui on February 18th.

His band, Daughtry, is headed to Maui Arts and Cultural Center for the gig.

Tickets go on sale to MACC members on Saturday, January 29th at 10 a.m., and Saturday February 5th for the general public. Cost is between $33 and $83.

Read more at HawaiiNewsNow

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Ex-’Idol’ contestant Todrick Hall of Arlington to launch production of ‘Fairytale’d’

“I had to make a decision of whether or not I wanted to stay with [ Memphis] or whether I wanted to go to L.A. to try to make more of a name for myself,” Hall said during an interview at the Star-Telegram offices. “[My Idol] season is over, and another season has started, and I feel like when you’re two seasons away, no one’s going to remember you.”

For now, Hall is back in Texas, where he plans to launch a touring production of Fairytale’d, a musical he wrote and will direct. Auditions will take place Friday at Dana’s Studio of Dance in Southlake; the production is seeking children 6 to 18. Hall is still putting finishing touches on the musical, he said, and cast members will be able to help develop characters.

Hall plans to take the musical on a seven-city tour starting Feb. 19 in Corsicana.

Read more at the Star Telegram

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Lee Dewyze’s Aunt Mary & cousin Tim talk American Idol

We caught-up with Lee’s Aunt Mary and cousin Tim in Butler County, for an update on how the stars new life is treating him.

Lee’s career, as you might imagine, is on the fast-track post-Idol.

He sang the halftime show for the Chicago Bears-Green Bay Packers game last weekend. He’s a little jet-lagged from a radio tour he’s doing right now, to promote his new CD, but we’ve got it on-record from Aunt Mary, life is good for Lee Dewyze.

“I’m his Aunt Mary,” and not just any Aunt Mary. “People have stopped me and said to me, I know who you are and I’ll say who am I?,” she laughed. “And they’ll say, ‘You’re Aunt Mary.”

See the Video at FOX19.com

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Talent show gives Steven Tyler collectibles a big boost

The latest incarnation of Aero-smith frontman Steven Tyler as an “American Idol” judge has struck a chord with opportunistic fans of Marshfield’s Demon of Screamin’, who are online demanding hundreds and even thousands of dollars for everything from autographs to bus shelter posters tied to the 62-year-old Rock and Roll Hall of Famer.

“Get it while it is hot. ‘Idol’ will only make Tyler collectibles more valuable,” says the Craigslist pitch for a pair of rock-star-hip sunglasses. Rick Peterson of Scituate claims they were Tyler’s and he’s willing to part with them for $2,500 “or best reasonable offer.”

Red more at the Boston Herald

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Jennifer Lopez Appreciates Steven Tyler’s ‘Zaniness’ On ‘American Idol’

Jennifer Lopez feels really at home as one of the new faces of “American Idol.” But Lopez isn’t the only new kid on the “Idol” block: Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler is also just getting his feet wet, and fans are getting used to his wacky judging style. And J.Lo appreciates her fellow judge’s “zaniness,” as she called it.

“He’s a very spontaneous person in that sense,” she told MTV News. “You never know what’s going to come out of his mouth, [and] probably half the show is me kind of looking at him like, ‘What? Did he just say what I think he just said?’ It’s very funny, but I enjoy every second of it — every second of the zaniness and craziness. You never know with him, and it’s awesome.”

Read more at MTV

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New Jennifer Lopez Song Leak?

“Take Care” is reportedly a cut off Jlo’s upcoming album, Love

Via DopeNewR&BSongs

 
  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Cowell: ‘US X Factor announcement soon’

    Simon Cowell has revealed that he will be making an announcement about the US version of The X Factor in “two weeks time”.

    The music mogul commented that the judging panels for both the Britsh and American versions of the show have not been set in stone, teasing that he has “surprises” in store for viewers.

    “We are going to make an announcement soon,” PA quotes him as saying. “We have to make sure all the shows will be back bigger, better, stronger, different. No-one has been contracted yet, apart from me.”

  • Studio57

    If anyone was wondering when the live shows, Hollywood Week, etc. start:

    http://www.americanidol.com/news/view/pid/4189

  • sr4mjc

    Is finale week the week of 5/22 like last year?

    Sir Anthony Hopkins likes Adam and Crystal :)

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/01/video-anthony-hopkins-loves-american-idol-and-adam-lambert

    Holy autotune JLo. Sorry, that song stinks.

  • Joyed

    EW posted a new version of the trailer for “Soul Surfer” – the movie Carrie Underwood has a role in. Apparently this one shows the surfer’s arm gone (which the first trailer seemed to avoid more).

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    If anyone was wondering when the live shows, Hollywood Week, etc. start:

    Click the tab above to see the schedule so far:

    http://mjsbigblog.com/ai-10-schedule

  • MrDuffin

    Sir Anthony Hopkins likes Adam and Crystal

    The man has good taste in music it seems!

  • abbysee

    The man has good taste in music it seems!

    Yes indeed!

  • luly
  • fuzzywuzzy

    Holy autotune JLo. Sorry, that song stinks.

    I wonder if AI looking for someone who sings well live is a notion that is somewhat out-of-date and less relevant these days for Top40? With technological tools like Pro-Tools and autotune to correct pitchiness and alter vocal quality, with people like Katy Perry being nominated for a Grammy in the ‘best female pop vocal’ category (despite not being able to sing well live) and more electronic elements in top40 songs, the focus on singing well live seems to be of lesser importance (again for a top 40 star, who Idol seems to be looking for this year).

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    I wonder if AI looking for someone who sings well live is a notion that is somewhat out-of-date and less relevant these days for Top40? With technological tools like Pro-Tools and autotune to correct pitchiness and alter vocal quality, with people like Katy Perry being nominated for a Grammy in the ‘best female pop vocal’ category (despite not being able to sing well live) and more electronic elements in top40 songs, the focus on singing well live seems to be of lesser importance (again for a top 40 star, who Idol seems to be looking for this year).

    Pretty much. I mean, it’s still good if you can sing well live, but it’s not necessary to be successful. As long as you sound decent live more than half of the time, you get a pass.
    Technology can do wonders in the studio. Looks matter a lot. And catchy songs. So you either have to be able to write catchy songs or have a team of songwriters that writes hits for you. And then you have to be able to “sell” those songs. The right attitude and image matter more than vocals.

  • Mel1

    Sir Anthony Hopkins likes Adam and Crystal

    I know a couple of years ago he said he liked Adam, and they even showed him in the audience. I didn’t realize he went to an S9 show, and I love that his favorite that season was Crystal.

  • Tess

    The right attitude and image matter more than vocals.

    Isn’t this the first generation to be enamored with auto-tune vocals and electronic enhancement. It’s a new “toy” that is being played with and, just like anything new and different, it is being gobbled up by peeps that want to have a new sound be associated with their youth. At some point this phenomenon will also pass…nothing in music stays stagnant. People will get tired of hearing the same sound, and the same electronic beats, and the sameness of the much copied and imitated and then music will probably swing back on the pendelum and people will be amazed that singers can truly make music with their voices and capture sounds that are elusive for the electronically enhanced.

    When that happens the Taylor Swifts and the Keishas and yup, even the Katy Perrys will fade into oblivion…and the real vocalists will rise to the top. I’ll bet my fortune on it.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Pretty much. I mean, it’s still good if you can sing well live, but it’s not necessary to be successful. As long as you sound decent live more than half of the time, you get a pass.

    I agree. I think that the bar has been lowered substantially since the advent of technology to compensate for vocal weaknesses.

    Technology can do wonders in the studio. Looks matter a lot. And catchy songs. So you either have to be able to write catchy songs or have a team of songwriters that writes hits for you. And then you have to be able to “sell” those songs. The right attitude and image matter more than vocals.

    Again, I agree. I have a feeling that the early screening of the contestants in Vegas at the top 60 level by Iovine and his team/songwriters may have been less about vocals and more about “star” quality and “selling” ability (=performance ability?). Which may explain why some contestants who I thought were very good in their auditions have not progressed to the (rumored) top 40.

    ETA:

    When that happens the Taylor Swifts and the Keishas and yup, even the Katy Perrys will fade into oblivion…and the real vocalists will rise to the top. I’ll bet my fortune on it.

    That may happen, but Idol is interested in cashing in now, not eventually, so Iovine and his team are going to try to find someone who can make a big splash as soon as possible. The only contestants who they believe can be such a “star” will be allowed into the Top 20 (I believe that Iovine/his team will be calling the shots at this level, not the judges). The choice of the public will be limited.

  • Mel1

    Not being particularly good live singers have not hurt Britney nor Taylor. They have been top concert grossers (Britney for a good number of years).

    Anyone remember when Bieber was autotuned when he performed on AI?

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Also, this article explains a lot:
    Trilling Songbirds Clip Their Wings

    What makes singles like “Telephone” and “Alejandro,” “California Gurls” and Kesha’s “Tik Tok” and “Your Love Is My Drug” stand out aren’t the voices at their core. It’s the combination of vocal personality, arrangement, hook and songcraft — the eternal, enduring ingredients of classic pop. Even their voices are turned into hooks: one of the most memorable parts of “Telephone” is the moment Lady Gaga’s voice imitates a busy signal.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Anyone remember when Bieber was autotuned when he performed on AI?

    Was he? Is this the performance? I don’t detect any autotuning. He appears to be singing live and not lip-synching.

  • tripp_ncwy

    TMZ is reporting that American Idol Season 7′s Chikezie missed a court date and the judge has revoked his probation and issued a bench warrant for his arrest. He got off easy the first time with probation but this time he may get some time. Good luck in the big house.

  • sr4mjc

    When that happens the Taylor Swifts and the Keishas and yup, even the Katy Perrys will fade into oblivion…and the real vocalists will rise to the top. I’ll bet my fortune on it.

    But when oh when?

    I am happy with the success of Pink lately and Gaga love or hate her can sing. Bruno, while not my favorite isn’t horrible live. Rihanna is a passable singer too.

    The problem with Idol is, they are going to have to find someone with a good enough voice to get votes. Seen KP’s version of Firework on Ellen? It was horrid, would anyone vote for that if that was a performance on Idol? Can blue eyes and large breasts get enough votes to overcome hurt eardrums? Tim proved last year that looks and charm weren’t enough to overcome vocals. How Key of Lee won, I’m still trying to figure out. I think it was the harp.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Mateja:
    01/27/2011 at 11:32 am

    Also, this article explains a lot:
    Trilling Songbirds Clip Their Wings

    Thanks for posting that article, Mateja. :) It’s well worth the read and does explain a lot and reflects a lot of my own thinking and analysis of the evolution of pop music over the past decades.

    Starting with Lady Gaga and Ms. Perry the nonmelisma female performers who have taken over iPods and the radio couldn’t be more different vocally. On “California Gurls” and “Teenage Dream,” her ubiquitous 2010 hits, Ms. Perry opts for short, breathy gulps in her singing. Her voice occasionally glides into an upper register, as on the bridge of “California Gurls,” but it mostly aims to convey likability and approachability, not prowess and imperiousness.

    To succeed in pop music today, it’s no longer necessary, desirable or even popular to sing in a way that emphasizes vocal virtuosity, which was the mainstay of the era of Mariah, Whitney and Christina.

  • Elliegrll

    The ratings were good yesterday. They were only down 3% compared to last week, and the show held on to 95% of the viewers that they had last week. The show was only down 9% in comparison to last year. Tvbythenumbers.com

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Seen KP’s version of Firework on Ellen? It was horrid, would anyone vote for that if that was a performance on Idol?

    It was terrible and the judges would have trashed her on Idol. Which only emphasizes that the ability to sing well live isn’t necessarily important to be successful in today’s pop world. Explained well in the quote that Mateja posted above from the NYT article:

    What makes singles like “Telephone” and “Alejandro,” “California Gurls” and Kesha’s “Tik Tok” and “Your Love Is My Drug” stand out aren’t the voices at their core. It’s the combination of vocal personality, arrangement, hook and songcraft — the eternal, enduring ingredients of classic pop. Even their voices are turned into hooks: one of the most memorable parts of “Telephone” is the moment Lady Gaga’s voice imitates a busy signal.

  • Mary102

    It’s no longer necessary, desirable or even popular to sing in a way that emphasizes vocal virtuosity, which was the mainstay of the era of Mariah, Whitney and Christina.

    It’s kinda become a moot point in the age of autotune – singers, no matter what their skill level, can sound passably good, or downright brilliant, thanks to studio wizadry.

    Also I agree that today’s style of pop singing is lighter on the soaring ballads that are in the old Mariah/Whitney/Christina vocal acrobatics style, and heavier on the electro, beat-heavy, snappy lyrics, dance club songs in the style of Gaga and Kesha.

  • Elliegrll

    Isn’t this the first generation to be enamored with auto-tune vocals and electronic enhancement

    I think it’s more about putting song production above the vocals, which goes along with the article that Mateja just posted. But, this isn’t the first time that this has happened, disco was more about the producers than the singers, too. There was a backlash against disco for that reason, so maybe the same thing will happen with today’s popular music, especially if producers and artists aren’t smart enough to make one song sound different than another one.

  • Mary102

    And just throwing in that, the key to successful pop songs is a clever hook, catchy lyrics, a good beat, and the personality of the voice behind it. Those things can’t really be tested readily on the AI stage because they’re not singing brand new pop songs.

    That’s why finding a real bonafide star from the show is always gonna be a bit of a crap shoot. In the end, once they’re off idol, in the real world, and creating a product, that’s when the test comes in terms of the strength of their material, and how it fits into the radio scene (which, especially in pop is always changing). But those ingredients I listed above are pretty standard in general.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    It’s kinda become a moot point in the age of autotune – singers, no matter what their skill level, can sound passably good, or downright brilliant, thanks to studio wizadry.

    That’s true, but it does bring up an interesting conflict wrt to acknowledging excellence in the recording industry. So based on recordings, Katy Perry is considered worthy of a Grammy nomination in the ‘best female pop vocal” category, even though the “quality” of her vocals has been Pro-tooled/autotuned to death, and she demonstrates an inability to sing these same songs well live? A strange situation.

    ETA:

    And just throwing in that, the key to successful pop songs is a clever hook, catchy lyrics, a good beat, and the personality of the voice behind it. Those things can’t really be tested readily on the AI stage because they’re not singing brand new pop songs.

    I think that this was the purpose of Iovine/his team screening the contestants in Vegas early at the Top60 stage before allowing any of them to progress (I think that at this point, original songs were supposed to be introduced).

  • sma11ie

    The ratings were good yesterday. They were only down 3% compared to last week, and the show held on to 95% of the viewers that they had last week.

    I was hoping for an uptick, cuz a lot of people I know here on the East coast who don’t normally watch AI live or regularly ended up tuning into Idol because they were snowed in, myself included.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja
  • Elliegrll

    And just throwing in that, the key to successful pop songs is a clever hook, catchy lyrics, a good beat, and the personality of the voice behind it. Those things can’t really be tested readily on the AI stage because they’re not singing brand new pop songs.

    I don’t totally agree with the last part. Not only can people rearrange a song to make it sound modern, but they can sing it in a way that makes it sound new. That hasn’t alway happened in the past, a perfect example of that is Katie Stevens, who always sounded like she was 50 instead of 17, but others have been able to make thirty year old songs sound like they could fit into a current radio playlist.

    I think AI will always be the type of show where the artists vocal and musical abilities will outweigh their personality, even though personality will be important too.

  • goboywonder

    David A. is one of AOL’s 21 Hottest Music Stars Under 21

    http://music.aol.com/blog/2011/01/26/21-hottest-music-stars-under-21/

  • Mary102

    (I think that at this point, original songs were supposed to be introduced).

    I don’t totally agree with the last part. Not only can people rearrange a song to make it sound modern, but they can sing it in a way that makes it sound new.

    But I don’t think, within the limits of AI, the show, that “pop star potential” can really be figured out with any sort of accuracy, regardless of adding new songs this year (for one, the time limits and quick turnaround on the show will likely limit the “hit potential” of those songs. Secondly, those songs are only gonna be performed on the show, not tested on radio – those are two very different worlds).

    To address the second point, in year’s past, what we were essentially getting was a contestant’s unique spin on that particular theme week. Though it provides glimpses of what they may do in the real world, how well you arrange “Billie Jean” or “Mad World”, or what have you is not really indicative of what you’re gonna do with a new song after idol. Cook is a great example = I loved his creative takes on songs on AI, and he was my fav that season, but I found his album boring.

  • wellhesback

    mary102 – David Cook has been able to rearrange some of his album songs in concert. He & his band make them almost a comopletely different, more energetic, experience live; one that you might possibly enjoy more.

  • Elliegrll

    . Cook is a great example = I loved his creative takes on songs on AI, and he was my fav that season, but I found his album boring.

    I think one caveat here is how much control the Sony labels let the idols have. It’s highly unlikely that a major label would let someone, who’s coming off of a talent show, take as many chances as they did on the show. I’ve had the same thought about Kris releasing The Truth, or having songs like Lifetime and Let It Rain on his album. It’s not that they are bad songs, it’s just they are not indicative of the creativity that captured people’s attention while he was on AI.

    I don’t think we can tell in just two months who will be a pop star, like you said, we won’t know what the public likes until they release an album, but I still think that contestants can make the older songs sound current.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    But I don’t think, within the limits of AI, the show, that “pop star potential” can really be figured out with any sort of accuracy, regardless of adding new songs this year (for one, the time limits and quick turnaround on the show will likely limit the “hit potential” of those songs. Secondly, those songs are only gonna be performed on the show, not tested on radio – those are two very different worlds).

    Yes, it’s not the ideal showcase, but I have a feeling that a LOT more will be going on behind the scenes (not necessarily shown on the show) in the grooming/developing of the contestants this year. I’m intrigued by the early involvement of Iovine/his team and how that will impact the performances/songs. It will be interesting to see how things evolve and what choices the public is given in the Top 20 that AI/Iovine/his team selects.

  • goboywonder
  • standtotheright

    On “California Gurls” and “Teenage Dream,” her ubiquitous 2010 hits, Ms. Perry opts for short, breathy gulps in her singing.

    I find this offputting. This very short, staccato phrasing comes off inherently aggressive, which is fine if one wants to sing punk. But for pop songs that are supposed to be about sun and fun and young love that makes you want to dance forever? IDGI.

    Frankly, every time I hear “You. Make. Me. Feel. Like. I’m. Liv-ing. In. A. Teenage. Dream.” I start picturing Ms. Perry as a praying mantis who is going to devour her partner’s head as soon as she gets him home.

    I don’t really want to go back to all-melisma-all-the-time, but I think a vocalist should have the ability to sustain a note when the song calls for it.

  • Mel1

    Article about celebs and Charity Water:

    http://www.tonic.com/article/anybody-whos-anybody-raises-money-for-charity-water-adam-lambert/

    One minor detail. The article states Adam reached his original goal of $29,000 in mere days. I believe it was mere hours.

  • Elliegrll

    Yes, it’s not the ideal showcase, but I have a feeling that a LOT more will be going on behind the scenes (not necessarily shown on the show) in the grooming/developing of the contestants this year

    I agree, but I’m looking forward to and dreading this change. On the one hand, UMG will be more invested in the performers, and there’s a chance that they will give them post idol music that is more marketable, not generic, and that fits their style. On the downside, there’s too much of a chance that they won’t supply the same amoung of help and guidance to people who don’t fit their idea of what a pop star looks and sounds like. The best thing about AI is that so many of the winners and top ten finalists don’t fit the type for who usually gets attention in the pop culture world. It would such if UMG’s machinations changed that.

  • Mary102

    but I still think that contestants can make the older songs sound current.

    I never questioned that, merely the ability of idol to predict who will make a viable pop star (decidedly hard for ANYONE or any platform to do).

    I’m saying turning old songs into great, current ones =/= pop star potential in the real world.

  • CindyM

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  • Valentin432

    Vocal ability is what AI and those types of shows are build on.
    Britney Spears and boys bands were already massive superstars at the time the show began, so it’s not news that you don’t need to sing well to be a pop star.

    The best contestants and those who have usually the most success out of these shows are the ones who have the best and most unique voices.
    That’s what we can judge the best during the competition, we don’t know about their songwritting ability but if they are incredible singers, the theory is that songwritters/producers will be willing to give them very good material.

    My take is that I would rather AI discover the new Adele or Matt Belamy than the new Katy Perry or Keisha.

  • springboard

    I’ve had the same thought about Kris releasing The Truth, or having songs like Lifetime and Let It Rain on his album. It’s not that they are bad songs, it’s just they are not indicative of the creativity that captured people’s attention while he was on AI.

    I don’t think we can tell in just two months who will be a pop star, like you said, we won’t know what the public likes until they release an album, but I still think that contestants can make the older songs sound current.

    But re-arranging and making songs sound current is not a mark of high creativity compared to writing good songs from scratch. Youtube is full of rearranged, acoustic songs.
    I don’t think that AI is good audition format for discovering creativity, because it was not its aim in the first place as it was designed to showcase singing and performing.

  • Mary102

    But re-arranging and making songs sound current is not a mark of high creativity compared to writing good songs from scratch. Youtube is full of rearranged, acoustic songs.
    I don’t think that AI is good audition format for discovering creativity, because it was not its aim in the first place as it was designed to showcase singing and performing.

    Bingo, springboard. MTE.

  • Elliegrll

    The best contestants and those who have usually the most success out of these shows are the ones who have the best and most unique voices.

    I wouldn’t say that Daughtry or Jordin have unique voices, or even Carrie. I think the ones who have success are the ones who know who they are as artist, and who release current songs, that are catchy and appeal to a mass audience. It’s not Carrie’s voice that makes BHC a great song, even though she sounds great, the song was successful because it was fun, catchy and people could relate to it. If the song didn’t have those components, nobody would have noticed it or her.

  • Valentin432

    I wouldn’t say that Daughtry or Jordin have unique voices, or even Carrie. I think the ones who have success are the ones who know who they are as artist, and who release current songs, that are catchy and appeal to a mass audience. It’s not Carrie’s voice that makes BHC a great song, even though she sounds great, the song was successful because it was fun, catchy and people could relate to it. If the song didn’t have those components, nobody would have noticed it or her.

    If you go to a country forum and asks what makes Carrie special, you’ll hear every single time, it’s all about her voice. And yes Daughtry was recognized as soon as he steped into the idol stage and performed Wanted Dead Or Alive as a powerfull rock vocalist with a very commercial voice.
    BHC wouldn’t be half the song it is if it was KLC singing it.
    How well do you think Breakaway would have performed if it was Katie Stevens who released it instead of Kelly?
    You need to have good songwritters on your side, and those types are interested in idol alumnis when they can bring something unique as vocalists because there’s an unlimited number of wannabees who have great looks and good stage presence.

  • Elliegrll

    If you go to a country forum and asks what makes Carrie special, you’ll hear every single time, it’s all about her voice.

    I think you’d find that this is true if you went to a forum for any singer. Those who like Carrie will tell you that her voice is unique, and those who don’t will say that she is boring. Chris’ thread on TWoP got it’s name for a reason, and how many times has he been slammed for sounding like Nickelback, but those who like his music can’t hear the similarities.

    You need to have good songwritters on your side, and those types are interested in idol alumnis when they can bring something unique as vocalists

    For the most part, songwriters are interested in people who can make their songs popular. Miley Cyrus has worked with some of the top names in the business, and some of the same people who worked with Adam. Do you really think that those people worked with her because they thought that her voice is unique, and not because they new that her popularity would bring them a lot of money and attention?

  • Mel1

    One has to ask why Carrie, Kelly, Daughtry, Cook and Adam (in that order) have been the most successful idols when you account for album sales and touring.

  • windmills

    It turns out Casey’s opening 8 dates for Sugarland in March according to Shirley Halperin at The Hollywood Reporter. She also says his debut album’s due in spring.

    Definitely a good opportunity for him. I’m really wondering how the timing of this all is going to go for him. Debut album in the spring seems early seeing as he’s still writing. Maybe late May/early June would work. It depends on how far along he is. It’ll be interesting seeing when they start rolling things out for him.

    Mel1: One has to ask why Carrie, Kelly, Daughtry, Cook and Adam (in that order) have been the most successful idols when you account for album sales and touring.

    Aren’t Clay and possibly also Fantasia ahead of Cook and Adam in album sales and touring? Probably not Clay right now but he was bigger out of the gate.

  • Valentin432

    I think you’d find that this is true if you went to a forum for any singer. Those who like Carrie will tell you that her voice is unique, and those who don’t will say that she is boring. Chris’ thread on TWoP got it’s name for a reason, and how many times has he been slammed for sounding like Nickelback, but those who like his music can’t hear the similarities.

    It’s not only Carrie’s supporters who say that, she’s been nominated for best vocalist since the day she stepped up as a country artist.
    Windmills or another of her fans would be much more qualified that I am to point out to articles/reviews of her stuff, but everything that I’ve read highlights her remarkable vocal skills even if the material isn’t quite as good.

    Yes, you’re right, Chris has been slammed for sounding like Nickelback, but that isn’t a bad thing if you take into account their commercial success. Chris isn’t particularly liked in the idol blogosphere, but he was always recognized as a great singer on AI and the keyword with him is commercial radio voice.

  • Valentin432

    For the most part, songwriters are interested in people who can make their songs popular. Miley Cyrus has worked with some of the top names in the business, and some of the same people who worked with Adam. Do you really think that those people worked with her because they thought that her voice is unique, and not because they new that her popularity would bring them a lot of money and attention?

    No, read my comment again, I said that’s the reason why those songwritters work with idol contestants.

    There’s an infinite supply of good looking people with decent stage presence that knocks on the door of the major labels. Idol contestants aren’t usually the most commercial people because they would have already contracts otherwise, it’s their voice that makes them special.

  • HR

    I’m not aware of what Fantasia’s touring success was but Clay in his day would be ahead of Adam and Cook in both. Time will tell how they are doing 5 years from now or how any of them do.

    I follow people for their voices. When Chris was on Idol I recognized him as having a good rock voice I wanted to hear. This was before he ever released a successful hit single of his own. I bought that first CD because of his voice without previewing a single song. I bought it despite the reputation Idol had of releasing songs similiar to what they gave Kelly on Thankful to sing. I did it because I thought at the least I’d enjoy his voice even if the songs could have disappointed.

    Hard as it may be to believe in the Idol universe, his voice is what distinguishes him to his fans. The voice came before the hit CD’s. It came before he established his current band. The songs being well received may keep him relevant in music but the guy didn’t enter a popular singing show and gain a large following that year based all on the possibility he’d be able to write a catchy tune in the future. He didn’t gain that following because I was inbetween Chad Kroeger CD’s and found the two interchangeable. It is re-writing of history to suggest his voice wasn’t singled out that year as special.

    I understand everyone doesn’t like his chosen genre and that is fine. I don’t like the genre’s some of the others have pursued. But catchy songs are only part of the reason for his success.

  • Mel1

    I’m not familia with Clay’s touring stats. I know he co-headlined with Kelly. How was his solo tour?

  • springboard

    I am not a fan of Chris, but I think that he has the kind of smooth addictive tone that is great for radio.

  • Elliegrll

    It is re-writing of history to suggest his voice wasn’t singled out that year as special.

    No rewriting, his voice is special to his fans, but obviously not to many who aren’t. The same is true for any artist. Just like many said that out of everyone competing that year he would be the most successful, there were just as many people who complained that he sounded the same every week, and that he sounded like Chad K. It’s rewriting history to say that this isn’t true.

    That whole thing about Daughtry only being successful because stations needed some rock songs while Nickelback was on a break, is stupid, but the fact that you admit that that meme was passed around shows that not everyone thinks that his voice and sound are unique.

    And, anyone can have a voice that appeals to a certain group of people, but if they don’t have the songs to back it up, I doubt that they will get anywhere.

  • koshka

    Hard as it may be to believe in the Idol universe, his voice is what distinguishes him to his fans. The voice came before the hit CD’s. It came before he established his current band. The songs being well received may keep him relevant in music but the guy didn’t enter a popular singing show and gain a large following that year based all on the possibility he’d be able to write a catchy tune in the future. He didn’t gain that following because I was inbetween Chad Kroeger CD’s and found the two interchangeable. It is re-writing of history to suggest his voice wasn’t singled out that year as special.


    I completely agree with this
    .. I’m almost an anti-Chris fan. :) I loved him on AI and would have voted for him, if I voted. LOL I mostly say anti-fan because I dislike his style more so than anything else. However I have great respect for his vocal performances, similar to my feelings about Michael Buble. I agree that it is unfortunate that Chris gets lumped in with Nickelback. I see them as similar, but no where near interchangeable.

  • windmills

    Mel1: I’m not familia with Clay’s touring stats. I know he co-headlined with Kelly. How was his solo tour?

    Back when I was researching year end rankings for the AI summer tours I found this info from Pollstar’s year end list from 2004: Clay was #80 for all tours that year with an average of 4k attendance and $155k ticket gross per show from 50 dates.

  • standtotheright

    CD’s performances were so talked about that they even penetrated my-not-paying-any-attention-to-AI fog at the time. I’ll stipulate that.

    But to a person, everyone I talked to who bought that album did it because they thought INO (or one of the later singles) was a great song. There is no way the band sold 5 million copies without the songs.

  • koshka

    No rewriting, his voice is special to his fans, but obviously not to many who aren’t. The same is true for any artist.

    I suppose this is true as well – yes I know I am contradicting myself. There are a few idols that seem like carbon copies of a vocalist from another popular band. That said, I could probably pick Chris out of a line up of audio snippets despite the fact that I change stations when one of his songs are on.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    2 days until adam’s bday!!!!!!

    ot, but im so happy its snowing!!! we didnt have school yesterday, today, and we wont have it tomorrow. AND we have teacher workdays monday and tuesday so its like a 7-day-weekend :D

  • Trina

    If you go to a country forum and asks what makes Carrie special, you’ll hear every single time, it’s all about her voice. And yes Daughtry was recognized as soon as he steped into the idol stage and performed Wanted Dead Or Alive as a powerfull rock vocalist with a very commercial voice.

    Exactly. And it was Wanted Dead or Alive that made me a huge fan of Chris’ voice. I find the whole “sounding like Nickelback” thing to be just as lazy as lumping David in with Kris and Lee when hes nothing like them. “Daughtry” may have a similar sound to NB, but IMO Chris is a much better vocalist than Chad and I find his voice smoother. Frankly I dont care if a singer I like isnt unique, unique isnt always they key to success.

    Clay may seem like a bit of a joke now but hes also a fantastic singer. Some of his AI performances could bring me to tears (anyone who never saw Clay on AI, check out his “Solitaire” performance for example) and he could sing almost anything in concert. Back in the day he was able to play huge venues even without Kelly before his popularity nosedived. Hes not currently a great seller but between singles and albums hes sold like 6 million. Numbers like that cant be denied.

    Clay and David, and Melinda are the only ones over the years who completely grabbed me from their audition and it was 100 percent their voice.

  • Mel1

    It appears Clay was well on his way to Carrie/Kelly success. He seemed to have the sales and good touring stats. He also had the talent to back up his success, and from the few interviews I’ve seen, he was articulate and charming.

    So, WTF happened?

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    It appears Clay was well on his way to Carrie/Kelly success. He seemed to have the sales and good touring stats. He also had the talent to back up his success, and from the few interviews I’ve seen, he was articulate and charming.

    So, WTF happened?

    I don’t know. He didn’t get radio play? I don’t know that much about the music he released, but I know he recorded a lot of covers. Maybe once his Idol fame was gone, so many covers just didn’t cut it? I do agree that he has a good voice.

    I do remember stumbling upon Chris Daughtry’s American Idol performances years ago, some time after the end of season 5. I thought he had a great voice and great stage presence. I thought he was exactly what the show was about. An amateur, but very good. His success after the show was really not a surprise,

  • standtotheright

    An amateur, but very good.

    Eh, he’d been in bands for years, and released a couple of indie CDs. And he’d been through the Rockstar audition process. That makes him roughly the same level of “professional” as some of the people later accused of being plants.

    I’m no great Daughtry fan, but he did as well as he did because he was a long-time musician whose elimination had the fortunate side effect of giving him a little more time to work on the material for his debut.

  • mmb

    People forget that for a few years clay was HUGE. It is hard for any artist to sustain that level of success. He may have that level of success again, or he may not. But he has carved out a nice career for himself

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Eh, he’d been in bands for years, and released a couple of indie CDs. And he’d been through the Rockstar audition process. That makes him roughly the same level of “professional” as some of the people later accused of being plants.

    I’m no great Daughtry fan, but he did as well as he did because he was a long-time musician whose elimination had the fortunate side effect of giving him a little more time to work on the material for his debut.

    Well, there was still some awkwardness the way he moved around. I don’t know, it was weird – to me, he was clearly in a different league than anyone else.

    Lady GaGa is leaking lyrics of “Born This Way Track all over the internet. Gaga Daily is collecting bits…

    “Don’t Be a Drag, Just Be a Queen”

  • Valley

    I’m no great Daughtry fan, but he did as well as he did because he was a long-time musician whose elimination had the fortunate side effect of giving him a little more time to work on the material for his debut.

    Chris was eliminated two weeks before the S5 finale. The first week he had the standard elimination media rounds, the second week he was in rehearsals with the other finalists for the finale. There was no “extra time” advantage.

  • standtotheright

    There was no “extra time” advantage.

    Disagree. Rehearsals for the finale take time for all the top 12, but the top 2 do way more. And then they’re the ones who have the longer media rounds after the finale. He could get right to work.

    On the post-AI album production schedule, two weeks is practically two months.

  • tierbee

    You know me, gotta throw my random Street Corner Symphony links in here, right?

    Thought this was an interesting little interview with the lead singer, Jeremy Lister. Especially since we talk so much about labels and record deals and all that. Can’t wait to get my hands on his album :)

    http://www.ascap.com/playback/2011/01/Radar_Report/Jeremy_Lister.aspx

  • sr4mjc

    It’s funny, I like post-Idol Daughtry. I really didn’t like him on Idol, he always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder and little to no personality. I didn’t really have a horse in the S5 race either, so it wasn’t that I preferred someone else. He writes good radio hooks. I saw him open for Bon Jovi, he wasn’t that exciting but I don’t turn the station on him either. And I despise Nickelback. That dude’s voice is terrible.

    “Don’t Be a Drag, Just Be a Queen”

    Seriously Gaga? This is your ‘album of the decade’ lyrics?

  • LaRue

    It appears Clay was well on his way to Carrie/Kelly success. He seemed to have the sales and good touring stats. He also had the talent to back up his success, and from the few interviews I’ve seen, he was articulate and charming.

    So, WTF happened?

    IMO, Clay wasn’t commercial enough to bring in new fans. He couldn’t sustain his popularity with Idol fans alone. Once his original fanbase eroded, so went what some thought was mega-fame.

    Clay has a lovely voice and with the right material, could have had a career in the vein of Josh Groban or Michael Buble–not that he sounds like them, but that he could have been a true adult contemporary staple artist. But I think Clay did too many covers early on, along with releasing a Christmas album too soon in his career.

  • Mel1

    So far, Cook and Adam are having good success in album sales and touring. They must be doing something right. Let’s hope they stay on track ala Carrie, Kelly and Daughtry. Something must have happened with Clay to go from HUGE, to how he is doing now. It’s one thing to have Taylor or Jordin’s success, then go downhill. It’s another to have had Clay’s success. and take that nosedive. Maybe Clay’s music just isn’t relevant. I thought it was a mistake for him to put out an old standards album.

  • Mel1

    dup

  • GreenHippo

    It’s funny, I like post-Idol Daughtry. I really didn’t like him on Idol, he always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder and little to no personality. I didn’t really have a horse in the S5 race either, so it wasn’t that I preferred someone else. He writes good radio hooks. I saw him open for Bon Jovi, he wasn’t that exciting but I don’t turn the station on him either. And I despise Nickelback. That dude’s voice is terrible.

    same here! I really liked Daughtry’s first album and I didn’t buy it until it was almost out on the market for a year. I did not know then where to go for Idol info (Yay for MJ! :) ), so I had no clue he had that album out. But when I discovered it I loved every single track on it. This is the only album I ever purchased where I like all the tracks. Even on FYE (and I am a huge Adam fan) are tracks I don’t like. I DO NOT like Nickelback – at all!! ;)

  • Zastine4974

    Thursday 27th January 2011, @FoolsApril64 said:

    [FYI] David Cook featured in Guinness World Records 2010 – The Book of the Decade (plus some related records)

    Here’s a collage made of Guinness World Records 2010 entries (assume “The Book of the Decade” entries look the same) http://bit.ly/8BxJL (img w/thx2 stpdwn89)

    p.406 most simultaneous entries on Billboard Hot 100 by a solo act (11) http://plixi.com/p/72785618 (img w/thx2 @theroxycook)

    p.408 most new entries on Billboard Hot Digital Songs chart (14) http://i56.tinypic.com/2mct1qx.jpg

    other related …

    p.383 Largest TV Telephone Vote: 97,327,265 votes cast by viewers of the season 7 finale of American Idol

    p.405 Most hits on Billboards Hot 100 by the same manager (Simon Fuller)

    p.406 most No. 1′s from a music TV Talent Show [incl. David Cook mention] http://plixi.com/p/72785991) (img w/thx2 @theroxycook)

    Thanks FoolsApril64

  • Marie23

    http://www.twitlonger.com/show/8e8fo1

    OT>

    OMG the lyrics to Gaga’s song Born This Way, ugh, I can almost just hear how this is going to sound in my head, do not like, bet it’ll run up the charts, maybe I just don’t like songs that tries to be inspirational, just sound so nursery rhymy and cheesy, the song of the decade? allriiight….. kinda funny, for some reason, reading the bridge, sounds like Madonna’s Vogue, but do wonder how it’ll really sound when we hear it on the grammies….

  • musical

    Something must have happened with Clay to go from HUGE, to how he is doing now. It’s one thing to have Taylor or Jordin’s success, then go downhill. It’s another to have had Clay’s success. and take that nosedive.

    I sense some hyperbole here…”take that nosedive”…however two words: Clive Davis, come to mind when examining the path of Clay’s career. For greater insight, I suggest you read: Hit Men: Power Brokers and Fast Money Inside the Music Business.

    In spite of Clive and limited radio play, Clay has sold more than six million copies worldwide of his four albums: the triple-platinum Measure of A Man (featuring the hits “Invisible” and “This is the Night”), 2004′s platinum holiday CD Merry Christmas With Love, 2006′s gold-certified A Thousand Different Ways, and 2008′s On My Way Here – all of which debuted in the Top 5 on the Billboard chart. He’s launched nine live tours, and in January 2008, Aiken made his Broadway debut in the role of Sir Robin in the Tony Award-winning musical Monty Python’s Spamalot. Further, last year he was the first Idol to earn a PBS special. Next month, he will be touring with selections from his latest CD, Tried and True.