American Idol Headlines for 01/26/11

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Today’s Idol Appearances:

  • Fantasia performs at Japan Billboard Live, Osaka, Japan
  • Allison Iraheta takes part in a live chat, part of Tone’s emerging artists series. Live chat HERE at 6 pm ET.
  • Tim Urban is the special guest when the “Idol Across America” mobile van visits Seaport Village in San Diego, Jan 26, 10 AM – 2 PM PST.

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Crystal Bowersox tweets, “@ryanseacrest very happy to go see the kids at egelston hospital. Thanks Ryan, for all you do.”

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Jennifer Hudson will be booked as a guest on the final season of the Oprah Winfrey Show. Time and Date to be announced. If you are “inspired” by Jennifer’s weight loss, you can be a guest on the show.

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More Idol Headlines after the JUMP…

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Steven Tyler Hitting On Teenage Idol Contestants: Revolting, Not Amusing

When a 62-year-old man openly hits on a 16-year-old girl — in any context — it’s disturbing. When he does it smack in the middle of one of the few family-friendly hits on primetime network TV, it’s downright disgraceful. And that’s precisely why I’m hoping that executives at Fox, 19, and Fremantle Entertainment will put the kibosh on new (and otherwise quite terrific) American Idol judge Steven Tyler’s tendency to make lascivious comments toward the show’s young female contestants. (Fox officials declined comment on this story.)

Read more at TVLine

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Miranda Lambert, Reba, Carrie Underwood Among Artists Honored At ‘Girls Night Out: Superstar Women of Country’

Country superstars Miranda Lambert, Martina McBride Jennifer Nettles, Reba and Carrie Underwood are among the artists scheduled to appear and be honored at GIRLS’ NIGHT OUT: SUPERSTAR WOMEN OF COUNTRY, a new concert special produced by dick clark productions to be broadcast at a later date on the CBS Television Network. The special will be taped at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas on April 4.

GIRLS NIGHT OUT: SUPERSTAR WOMEN OF COUNTRY is a special tribute concert featuring an A-list lineup of performers paying respect to today’s most incredible country music female artists, all of whom will be honored with unique accolades from the Academy of Country Music for special achievements in their careers. More talent announcements are forthcoming. Ticket sales from the special will benefit ACM Lifting Lives, the charitable arm of the Academy.

Carrie Underwood will be recognized for being the only female in the Academy’s history to ever win Entertainer of the Year twice—first in 2008 and again in 2009. (She is the reigning Entertainer of the Year, as the ACM Awards recognize the previous calendar year’s work.)

Read more at TV By The Numbers

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Steven Tyler’s daughter: He’s saving ‘American Idol’!

He joked that he might be one young lady’s long-lost father, based on their similarly plush lips. He kind of creepily admired several young ladies’ appearances, commenting on their clothes and how great it made them look. But hey, he made viewers laugh and brought some much-needed fun to the judges’ table.

But don’t worry. Tyler’s joking is all harmless fun, his daughter Mia told Life & Style magazine. “We’re a very sarcastic family.”

“He’s the funniest man I know,” the model turned photographer added. “He’s saving the show because it was kind of boring before. There’s only so many times you can watch Simon be mean to people.”

Read more at MSNBC

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‘Idol’ Fall Girl — Hospitalized with Busted Ankle

The woman who took that NASTY fall down a flight of stairs on last week’s “American Idol” had to be hospitalized for an injury she suffered in the fall … TMZ has learned.

It all went down in Jersey last September — 16-year-old Nia Drummond flunked her “Idol” audition … and as she made her exit, accidentally tripped and fell down a flight of stairs … an embarrassing accident that aired on “Idol” last week for millions to see.

We’re told Drummond was rushed to a nearby hospital immediately after the nosedive — where she was treated for a sprained ankle.

Read more at TMZ

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10 fearless ‘Idol’ predictions

Season 10 of “American Idol” has already been full of surprises, and more are reportedly in store. Does that mean it will be an unpredictable year? Heck no! Here’s a fearless forecast of 10 things to expect from the show this season.

1. This will be a kinder, gentler ‘Idol’
OK, I’m kind of cheating with this first one. “Idol” producers have already said the show intends to be less mean without cranky Simon Cowell to lean on for its snark.

It’s a smart decision because it eliminates some of the distraction that the change in judges was expected to provide. If there is no mean judge this season, there is no comparison to be made between newbies Steven Tyler and Jennifer Lopez and Simon. Given that the acerbic Brit is one of a kind (and thank heaven for that), it made sense to change things up when he left.

Read more at MSNBC

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New season of ‘American Idol’ features two Mainers

Two Maine residents have now been confirmed as participants on the hit FOX Network talent show.

Jessica Cunningham of Portland, who was on the show last year, was confirmed Tuesday by the show’s publicists as a contestant on the new season of “American Idol,” which began airing Jan. 19.

Last week, publicists confirmed that Danielle Pease, a 15-year-old high school student from Winthrop, has made it onto the show.

Read more at the Press Herald

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Asheville ‘American Idol’ contestant Caleb Johnson shares scoop

It’s one of the top-rated shows on TV, watched by millions, and out of hundreds of thousands who audition, Erwin High graduate Caleb Johnson made the cut.

At just 19, Johnson tried out in Austin, Texas, and after singing Soundgarden’s “Rusty Cage,” all three celebrity judges gave him the thumbs up and a ticket to Hollywood.

Contractual obligations forbid Johnson from speaking about anything past the auditions, so it remains to be heard what the process is like during the show’s Hollywood week and beyond — and, of course, how far he gets. Johnson took some time out to answer the questions that he could. Here’s a little insight into our local celebrity.

Read more at Citizen-Times

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Jennifer Lopez Calls ‘American Idol’ A ‘Natural, Fun Experience’

“It’s just been a very natural, fun experience for us, and I think that’s what’s coming across. But we’re also very serious about what we’re doing, and I think people get that too. Like, we’re not just phoning it in. We actually care about this, we care about the process, we care about music, we care about artists, and you’re getting all that,” she said. “And that’s pretty much how we handle it every day. I’m having a good time.”

Read more at MTV

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David Archuleta answers more fan questions for SWRV

Do you have any plans to pursue more acting?

What’s the worst road trip you’ve ever been on?

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Catching Up With ‘Idol’ Contestant Katie Stevens

With the 10th season of “American Idol” in full swing, Connecticut residents may be curious about Katie Stevens, the Middlebury native who finished eighth last season.

Since the show, Stevens — an avid Twitter updater and fan of the new judges panel on “Idol” — has toured the country, turned 18, graduated high school and packed her bags for the West Coast.

Now living in Los Angeles, Stevens says she is working on an album and “writing with a couple of people who are up-and-coming.”

Read more at Courant.com

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Sir Anthony Hopkins Wants to Be an ‘American Idol’ Judge (VIDEO)

“It’s like the American dream, isn’t it?” he explained after Jimmy Kimmel showed footage of Hopkins cheering on Adam Lambert from the ‘Idol’ audience. “I want to get on the show and become a judge,” he said on ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live’ (weeknights, 12AM ET on ABC). “[But] I couldn’t be tough on them.”

Watch the video at TV Squad

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Behind The Scenes: Jennifer Lopez’s New Music Video, ‘On The Floor’

Hundreds of dance hopefuls showed up in Hollywood to dance their hearts out with J.Lo in the upcoming music video for her new single, “On The Floor” and Access was inside the audition room as for all the hot action!

Via Access Hollywood

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Aiden Grimshaw to secure Syco record deal?

Aiden Grimshaw has apparently been told that he will secure a deal with Simon Cowell’s record company if he performs well on the upcoming X Factor tour.

Ninth-placed Grimshaw was a late addition to the tour lineup, after it was initially reported that only the top eight contestants would appear at the arena shows.

According to The Sun, the 19-year-old has now been informed that he will sign to Syco at the end of the tour if he manages to impress fans during the gigs.

Read more at Digital Spy

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Will Dianna Agron Tackle The Super Bowl For ‘Glee’?

While promoting her new movie, “I Am Number Four,” Dianna Agron chats with Access about her plans for the Super Bowl. Also, was the cast “rambunctious” when they stripped down to their underwear in an upcoming episode? Plus, Dianna talks about Anne Hathaway’s guest appearance on the show.

See the Video at Access Hollywood

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Matthew Morrison Reveals Details From ‘Glee’s’ Underwear Episode

“We did this thing where, one of the characters is singing for the first time… and in order to get over their nerves, they have to see people in their underwear to make them feel better, more confident, about… singing,” Matthew told Access Hollywood as he joined some of his cast members and show creator Ryan Murphy, to shoot an upcoming cover for The Hollywood Reporter.

Beyond Lauren’s first vocal performance, plenty of more developments are in the works for series, including the much talked about potential Jennifer Lopez cameo. According to Matthew, he’d like the newest “American Idol” judge to visit his set with a net on her noggin.

“I think she’s awesome. I’ve actually talked to her before about it,” Matthew told Access. “At one point we were talking about her being a lunch lady… in a hairnet, and stuff… kind of, ‘deglamorize Jennifer Lopez.’”

Read more at Access Hollywood

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Matthew Morrison’s Solo Album: A Preview

Promising a mix of originals and cover songs (one revealed recently by Sir Elton John, who told Parade that he and Morrison had recorded a duet), Morrison recorded tracks for the album in Los Angeles, New York City and London, and collaborated with several writers including Steve Kipner (The Script, Cheryl Cole), JC Chasez, formerly of N Sync, and Britain’s Eg White (Adele, Duffy). “When I started the process, I had a vision of what I wanted it to be, and it’s now completely different,” he says. “I went into it wanting a Justin Timberlake-meets-Michael Buble kind of feel, but what came out of it was something more raw.”

Mercury Records president David Massey, who signed Morrison soon after Glee premiered in 2009, says he hears a little Jason Mraz, too. Maybe it’s the ukulele Morrison plays on one song. “It’s going to be an eclectic album,” says Massey. “There’s a lot of charm it and Matthew did some great songwriting.” Adds Morrison: “I have such respect for the songwriting process now.”

Read more at The Hollywood Reporter

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Kings of Leon Drummer Suggests Ryan Murphy Go ‘Buy a New Bra’

While singer Caleb Followill was quoted trying to ratchet down the tension with Murphy (“This was never meant as a slap in the face to Glee or to music education or to fans of the show”), drummer Nathan Followill is having none of this measured-response business. Nathan just tweeted, “Dear Ryan Murphy, let it go. See a therapist, get a manicure, buy a new bra. Zip your lip and focus on educating 7yr olds how to say fuck.”

Read more at New York Magazine

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PICS: ‘Glee’ Cast Gets Zombified

See more photos at ET

 
  • Valentin432

    If Liv wants to be on the show and translate what her dad says it would make me very happy.

  • jpfan

    That MSNBC artucle ain’t bad. Yes, these will be the most boring auditions ever without Simon. And JLo needs to be more bitchy to bring a little edge to the show. If she stays nicey, nice there won’t be much going on between the judges.

    Jimmy Iovine better be a fascinating person because instead of guest mentors it’s all him. But #1, this show is in desperate need of a break out star. I listened to Z100 this morning and for the first time ever, some of the djs said they will not be watching Idol tonight.

  • Marie Ruffin

    JLO’s On the Floor sounds eerily like a Shakira-ish tune.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    JLO’s On the Floor sounds eerily like a Shakira-ish tune.

    More like Lambada. LOL
    It was produced by RedOne. He is most famous for working with Lady GaGa (Poker Face, Bad Romance, Alejandro). He actually remixed Shakira’s “Hips Don’t Lie (Bamboo Remix) for Soccer WC in 2006.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    And JLo needs to be more bitchy to bring a little edge to the show. If she stays nicey, nice there won’t be much going on between the judges.

    I agree, especially since I think that the “nicey, nice” image is rather disingenuous. I think that JLo has no problem in real life being very direct and telling people exactly what she thinks. ;)

  • Mary102

    jpfan:
    01/26/2011 at 8:48 am
    That MSNBC artucle ain’t bad. Yes, these will be the most boring auditions ever without Simon. And JLo needs to be more bitchy to bring a little edge to the show. If she stays nicey, nice there won’t be much going on between the judges.

    Jimmy Iovine better be a fascinating person because instead of guest mentors it’s all him. But #1, this show is in desperate need of a break out star. I listened to Z100 this morning and for the first time ever, some of the djs said they will not be watching Idol tonight.

    I 100% agree with all of this. I enjoy the judges in a “they’re better than I expected, and better than Simon phoning it in and Kara and Ellen sucking” kinda way.

    But I sorely miss the snark of Simon, the “tell it like it is” in a constructive, yet at times brutally honest way. I really don’t know yet if J. Lo or Randy or Steven will bring that to the show. We won’t really know for sure though until the live eps start up.

    And from the beginning I’ve been not at all a fan of the Iovine move, which IMO is the absolute worst change they’ve made. Not only is it likely to be blatantly manipulative, in terms of the chosen favorites (including those precious, 15 yo’s) being handheld to a rigged victory (my worst case scenario fear), but it runs the risk of being boring from a tv show/entertainment factor.

    Love it or hate it, the weekly mentors were at least a new element of surprise to get interested in and discuss every week. Some were surprisingly bad or good, and some were nonexistent, but they at least added some variety to match the theme weeks.

  • lucy

    I agree, especially since I think that the “nicey, nice” image is rather disingenuous. I think that JLo has no problem in real life being very direct and telling people exactly what she thinks. ;)

    Well, either disingenuous or indicative of her seeing the contestants as poor little lambs who aren’t in a position to take either truth or attitude from adult professionals rather than aspiring equals who probably need to hear it and take it for their own good, since the real music world will hit them with plenty of truth *and* plenty of mean-spirited attitude. Somehow that seems more like it, to me. But either way it’s certainly helping to turn this year’s show into a big pool of saccharine.

  • CindyM

    MTV article on this week in idol history:
    http://on.mtv.com/gxYB6W

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    And from the beginning I’ve been not at all a fan of the Iovine move, which IMO is the absolute worst change they’ve made. Not only is it likely to be blatantly manipulative, in terms of the chosen favorites (including those precious, 15 yo’s) being handheld to a rigged victory (my worst case scenario fear), but it runs the risk of being boring from a tv show/entertainment factor.

    Well, Universal and Iovine are clearly in this for the money. Idol is a great platform to launch new artists, it it’s used right. I think Iovine doesn’t want Idol to produce another Lee DeWyze or Crystal Bowersox and his presence, all other changes and manipulations will hopefully help him find someone he can get behind.

  • Tess

    I rarely thought Simon’s mean spirited criticism added anything to the show. He seemed to have a psychological need to belittle people in the same way he was belittled as a youngster…the “I was bullied” so now that I can I will bully back. Besides, what does someone’s weight, or facial structure, or wearing glasses, or resemblance to have to do with their singing ability. And why should being “broadwayish”, or cruise shippy, or Las Vegassy be the ultimate in horrendous?

    I never cared for Simon, thought he was and is beyond stupid and ignorant toward people, and really don’t think he was a good judge of talent or character. He was all about “pulp fiction” type personas and was strictly a spokesperson for that segment of society that builds themselves up by cutting others down. God, I’m glad the man is gone!

  • gangreen29

    When you are the #1 show on television everyone is going to have an opinion on everything, and that means there are going to be lots of conflicting opinions. I’ve seen lots of comments that people miss Simon because they miss his cruel comments. I’ve seen lots of comments that people find the show refreshing without a cruel judge. People complained endlessly when the audition shows were filled with bad auditions and wished they would just show talent, now they are filling them with good auditions and some people are unhappy that there aren’t more bad auditions. I would never want Nigel’s job, seems like you can never please everyone lol!

  • Mary102

    Well, Universal and Iovine are clearly in this for the money. Idol is a great platform to launch new artists, it it’s used right. I think Iovine doesn’t want Idol to produce another Lee DeWyze or Crystal Bowersox and his presence, all other changes and manipulations will hopefully help him find someone he can get behind.

    Yeah, he’s definitely gonna be another case where I just have to see how it plays out to say for sure if it was a wise or bad move. I’m sorry to see the weekly mentors go, and I’m not a fan of the show upping the “label involvement” to this degree. My favs in year’s past on idol have been the individuals who are already very confident performers who know who they are and bring that to the table. If Iovine has to guide people who don’t know what they’re doing, that’s where I get nervous. However, if it’s constructive criticism and advice to people who already have that personal sense of self as artists, then it could be an interesting move. We shall see :-)

  • Valentin432

    And from the beginning I’ve been not at all a fan of the Iovine move, which IMO is the absolute worst change they’ve made. Not only is it likely to be blatantly manipulative, in terms of the chosen favorites (including those precious, 15 yo’s) being handheld to a rigged victory (my worst case scenario fear), but it runs the risk of being boring from a tv show/entertainment factor.

    Worst change they have ever done was adding a fourth judge to the pannel, no matter what happens with Iovine, I doubt it will trump that one.
    I would like to see at least one week of action before judging the move, the contestants were already given advices by vocal coaches, the musical director and various other people, we’ll see how different it is from that.

  • glamertitis

    And JLo needs to be more bitchy to bring a little edge to the show

    . No offense, but this is the typical American attitude for reality shows – someone has to bully and belittle in order for the reality show to be amusing and entertaining.

    I am no longer going to waste 2 hours of my time to watch only 11 very edited auditions – the remainder of the 2 hours was back story, filler and bad contestants. If anyone is truly amazing, then I will hear about here and check it out on youtube.

    I blame the producers who are trying to to edit the show in such “creative” ways to keep their audience, but they are failing miserably. There is no realness to American Idol anymore. It’s all contrived, manipulative and the fact is that the people trying out for a “singing competition”, are the least important part of the show.

  • gangreen29

    There is no realness to American Idol anymore.

    There hasn’t been any “realness” to idol since season 1 lol.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I would like to see at least one week of action before judging the move, the contestants were already given advices by vocal coaches, the musical director and various other people, we’ll see how different it is from that.

    When will Iovine/the producers/stylists/etc. start mentoring the contestants? The Top 40? The Top 20? Earlier or only when the finalists are chosen? I previous years, I think that only started when they had chosen the finalists.

  • gangreen29

    When will Iovine/the producers/stylists/etc. start mentoring the contestants? The Top 40? The Top 20? Earlier or only when the finalists are chosen? I previous years, I think that only started when they had chosen the finalists.

    Vegas, which was the top 60 this year. That was when they worked with all those Universal writers and producers. Of couse they work with the musical directors and voice coaches during Hollywood, but in an extremely limited role

  • girlygirl

    I’m expecting whoever wins S10 to be manufactured by Iovine and the producers to within an inch of his/her life. There will likely be nothing original about him or her and they won’t be allowed to write their own material if they want an album out as soon as the show ends. Even if they are commercially successful I really doubt I’ll be interested in the music since it will be a rush job and probably the type of generic pop music that is inexplicably so popular right now.

    I hope I’m wrong, but this is the sense I’m getting — they don’t want original, they just want someone they can turn into a clone of someone who is commercially successful

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Thanks, gangreen. I think that it’s interesting that they started that early with the contestants rather than wait until later. I guess that they wanted to see how each contestant responded to the mentoring and their range of talent before progressing further.

    Well, either disingenuous or indicative of her seeing the contestants as poor little lambs who aren’t in a position to take either truth or attitude from adult professionals rather than aspiring equals who probably need to hear it and take it for their own good, since the real music world will hit them with plenty of truth *and* plenty of mean-spirited attitude. Somehow that seems more like it, to me. But either way it’s certainly helping to turn this year’s show into a big pool of saccharine.

    That could very well be true, but I don’t think that JLo is doing anyone any favors by being too “soft” on some of these contestants. I don’t want to see any of the judges be mean, degrading and nasty like Simon, but I also don’t want to see them swayed too much by backstories or sympathy. It’s possible to be direct without being mean, and I think that would be best.

    ETA:

    I’m expecting whoever wins S10 to be manufactured by Iovine and the producers to within an inch of his/her life.

    I’m wondering about that too, gg. Also, would Idol/Iovine be doing this if X-factor weren’t debuting later this year?

  • bridgette12

    glamertitis:
    01/26/2011 at 10:35 am
    I am no longer going to waste 2 hours of my time to watch only 11 very edited auditions – the remainder of the 2 hours was back story, filler and bad contestants. If anyone is truly amazing, then I will hear about here and check it out on youtube.

    \

    I’m going to wait until they get down to the final 20 before I start back watching. It’s just too many audition shows to watch just to see a few good singers.

  • tripp_ncwy

    I saw on twitter where Lee had a twitter party and stated that he will be singing new songs that he has written on tour? He also stated that he is already spending some time on his next album.

    Why would he perform new songs on tour where he should be supporting his current album because its success/failure will dictate if he gets another album? The new songs would not even be availbe for purchase. I just don’t understand that.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    I saw on twitter where Lee had a twitter party and stated that he will be singing new songs that he has written on tour? He also stated that he is already spending some time on his next album.

    Why would he perform new songs on tour where he should be supporting his current album because its success/failure will dictate if he gets another album? The new songs would not even be availbe for purchase. I just don’t understand that.

    I guess he is already planning his next album with that Wuli label that released his pre-idol material?

  • Valentin432

    I hope I’m wrong, but this is the sense I’m getting — they don’t want original, they just want someone they can turn into a clone of someone who is commercially successful

    The same people trying to read the tea leaves last year predicted a female dominated season with a Taylor Swift clone winning at the end.
    End result: Saussage fest, an “original” winner who was allowed to write his songs and the best girl was as far from TS as you can get (well at least as far as two blonde girls playing guitar and writing their own songs can be).

    That season was far from a roaring success.

  • girlygirl

    nvm

  • Buffynut

    tripp_ncwy:
    01/26/2011 at 10:56 am
    I saw on twitter where Lee had a twitter party and stated that he will be singing new songs that he has written on tour? He also stated that he is already spending some time on his next album.

    Why would he perform new songs on tour where he should be supporting his current album because its success/failure will dictate if he gets another album? The new songs would not even be availbe for purchase. I just don’t understand that.

    Probably just to make his set longer. It’s ether his own songs or a few covers. I don’t think singing some new ones is a big deal. Gives him a chance to try out new stuff.

  • gangreen29

    Thanks, gangreen. I think that it’s interesting that they started that early with the contestants rather than wait until later. I guess that they wanted to see how each contestant responded to the mentoring and their range of talent before progressing further.

    Yeah, they are really testing them this year. Along with the Vegas round there was the additional sing for your life round for the top 40, and by adding two more solo rounds they effectively doubled the solo performances in hollywood. What I think they are really trying to avoid is the Andrew Garcia’s and Didi Benami’s of the world. I think the show had high hopes for both of them last year, but they weren’t vetted enough to show that their bag of tricks was actually very limited.

  • girlygirl

    His concerts are only going to be 45 min.-1 hour long (at most; more like 1/2 hour if he’s opening act). Really not long enough to worry whether you have enough material. I guess it’s not a big deal if he plays new songs, it just seems a little strange that he’s already talking about new stuff when he should be promoting his current music.

  • cochem

    MJ, Taylor’s 2 shows in MS are Feb 25 & 26..

    http://www.taylorhicks.com/

    Tunica, MS – Millennium Theatre
    February 25, 2011 from 9pm to 11pm – Millennium Theatre at Gold Strike Casino Resort

    Biloxi, MS – Beau Rivage Theatre
    February 26, 2011 from 8pm to 10pm – Beau Rivage Theatre

  • Buffynut

    girlygirl:
    01/26/2011 at 11:16 am
    His concerts are only going to be 45 min.-1 hour long (at most; more like 1/2 hour if he’s opening act). Really not long enough to worry whether you have enough material. I guess it’s not a big deal if he plays new songs, it just seems a little strange that he’s already talking about new stuff when he should be promoting his current music.

    But Kris was mostly an opening act too and he sang several covers, didn’t he?

  • standtotheright

    His concerts are only going to be 45 min.-1 hour long (at most; more like 1/2 hour if he’s opening act). Really not long enough to worry whether you have enough material.

    Besides, I’m pretty sure he can perform his earlier material on tour, since other AI artists have done so. So I don’t think the “set length” reason holds up; he has three albums from which to draw. And he certainly hasn’t toured on the current songs enough to be bored with them yet.

    Doesn’t make much sense to me, honestly. It’s cool to mix it up for the fans with some newer songs or unreleased songs, but seems like it’s the sort of thing that one does later in a tour to pique interest, not at the beginning when playing the album tracks live is still new to him and to the fans.

  • girlygirl

    Buffynut

    yeah but Kris refused to play several songs that were on his album. He has never played From the Ashes live and he’s only played Let It Rain once (maybe twice). And he refused to play stuff off BNS. Kris didn’t have to play covers to fill out his sets, he had enough original material — but he likes doing mash-ups…he’s good at them.

    and it’s not like Lee couldn’t play stuff off his pre-Idol CDs that his fans would already know if he really needed more songs to fill out a set.

  • pineappletree

    I thought Kris only did two covers Man in the Mirror and Come Together in a 8 song set as an opening act. I know by the end he switched MIM for Everybody Wants to Rule the World and that ended up morphing into a mash up.

  • HR

    I would guess if he’s talking of premiering new material already it’s because he doesn’t believe the current material will have a long shelf life. His album is in danger of falling off the Top 200 in the next few weeks without a lift from an appearance, single or something else to prevent it.

  • Dakota01

    I hope I’m wrong, but this is the sense I’m getting — they don’t want original, they just want someone they can turn into a clone of someone who is commercially successful

    Why do the two have to be mutually exclusive? Someone “original” can certainly be “commercially successful” without being “manufactured” by TPTB.

  • Joyed

    This is chilling. HBO has a documentary coming out called “Silencing the Song: An Afghan Fallen Star” Basically, it is about a woman that was a contestant on Afghanistan’s version of American Idol and is now finding her life threatened because she was being perceived as too wild and offended traditionalists.

    Makes you realize how much we take certain freedoms for granted.

    Here is the trailer.

    Reality Blurred made a good post about it.

  • sma11ie

    What I think they are really trying to avoid is the Andrew Garcia’s and Didi Benami’s of the world. I think the show had high hopes for both of them last year, but they weren’t vetted enough to show that their bag of tricks was actually very limited.

    That’s really good news—I totally agree that the top 10 or 12 or 20 or whatever they decided on need to be better vetted than last year. I was sooo burned by Andrew Garcia and Didi last year after seeing how good they were during Hollywood week. At least with Didi, she did come back in the live rounds with an excellent Rhiannon and a halfway decent Play With Fire, but Garcia REALLY peaked in Hollywood. IMO he offered nothing of value in any of his live performances.

    Kris didn’t have to play covers to fill out his sets, he had enough original material — but he likes doing mash-ups…he’s good at them.

    I think playing covers and playing songs from a potential future album are two totally different things. Casual fans, and non-fans (as an opener, you’ll have a lot of non-fans in the audience) FLOVE covers in concerts. Actually, die-hards also love covers- pretty much every concert-goer appreciates a good cover in the set, so Kris is smart to do his mash-ups.

    As for Lee wanting to play songs that are not available for sale anywhere to fill out his set… well, I guess that’s his choice, but I think he’s better off adding in a cover or a mash-up, and maybe one or two pre-Idol songs to help build his credibility as an “artist” who existed prior to Idol. But I wonder if he’s contractually prohibited by RCA from performing songs that are recorded by Wuli. David Cook’s thrown in his sets a song from his pre-Idol solo stuff as well as some stuff from his pre-Idol band MWK, but these were all indie recordings. His solo stuff isn’t available for sale anywhere (though he encourages MP3 sharing), and the MWK stuff that is for sale independently is recorded with Andy’s voice, so it’s more like a typical cover than anything. So nothing for RCA to potentially object to.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Yeah, they are really testing them this year. Along with the Vegas round there was the additional sing for your life round for the top 40, and by adding two more solo rounds they effectively doubled the solo performances in hollywood. What I think they are really trying to avoid is the Andrew Garcia’s and Didi Benami’s of the world. I think the show had high hopes for both of them last year, but they weren’t vetted enough to show that their bag of tricks was actually very limited.

    I agree. After watching AI for so many years, I’ve learned that sometimes the audition can be misleading. The contestants have practised a long time and honed to perfection a couple of songs (probably getting feedback from people), but in the competition they don’t have that luxury. I like the Hollywood shows because you can start to see the real talent emerging.

  • Joyed

    Popeater apparently got to go into the studio with David Cook.

    At the link there is a little video and an article titled “David Cook Gets More ‘Confident’ in Songwriting for Second Album — Exclusive Video”.

    In the video he talks about trusting his own creative process and hilariously says at one point, when something came out wrong, to rewind the tape cause he accidentally sounded like “an arrogant asshole” (which they bleeped, lol)

    ETA. I don’t care what anyone says – I loved Didi and was glad she made the finals:) All of her studio recordings are still enjoyable!

    (However, I am excited that the contestants may get more TV training before being in front of the cameras on the live show. It’ll help them not look nervous, vomitous, smug, or whatever which comes from being unfamiliar with performing for a camera.)

  • Tess

    Why do the two have to be mutually exclusive? Someone “original” can certainly be “commercially successful” without being “manufactured” by TPTB.

    My biggest complaint about “Idol” as the years have passed by is that the original premise of the show has fallen by the wayside. The concept behind idol was to find the next popular recording star in the mainstream world of music and for this person to make some kind of impact on the recording world. Well, the winners of idol have been less and less successful within this concept…and the “fault” for this can be spread amongst the contestants, the changing industry, the voters and viewers, and TPTB.

    I didn’t get invested in idol to see the winner become a media joke, or to see high finishing contestants be so genre’ specific that they had/have no broad appeal. I don’t care if Idol clones a contestant as long as that cloning results in someone who is interesting and appealing and holds their own place in the dog eat dog world of popular (popular not neccessarily “pop”) music. I don’t want an Artist who only appeals to a very small portion of the listening public…I want someone who has appeal over a fairly large spectrum.

  • Valentin432

    Fallen Idol
    Can American Idol’s new celebrity judges keep it on top? Dream on

    They mention the question of the talent pool.
    I wonder if that’s a real reason. I know after following other talent shows that it’s definetly a problem even more so in less populated countries.
    SYTYCD for instance has a much smaller pool of talent because there is way less trained dancers out there than people who can sing a tune. Thus we get a lot of repeaters and the talent in general goes down.

    Maybee the number of people who can sing and want to participate in those kind of shows has been reduced a lot with the past 9 years. The only people who can know that are the producers.
    If that’s the case, good luck to all the new talent shows.

  • sma11ie

    At the link there is a little video

    Ooh! What’s on the video?! Can’t view right now :(.

    ETA: Saw your ETA description, thanks Joyed. Love this arrogant asshole, yay!

    In the video he talks about trusting his own creative process and hilariously says at one point, when something came out wrong, to rewind the tape cause he accidentally sounded like “an arrogant asshole” (which they bleeped, lol)

  • oceana

    I’m enjoying the show so far, less negative, less bad singers, more good singers. Sure Jennifer’s showing her nice side now, and it’s endearing her to me, she’s sweeter than I thought she was. But we know she has an edgy side too, and surely it will surface eventually. However there’s no need for her to try to be mean, that would be so fake. She’s not Simon and nobody should pretend to be him. I’d much rather they all be themselves. They’re new at this and they’re having fun. Good for them. I’m sure they’ll toughen up. ST said he gets better at it as it goes on. We’ve only seen one week so far! LOL.

    I liked Simon but don’t miss his surly attitude for the most part. I don’t think a show has to be overwhelmingly negative to be fun to watch. (If it was, we’d all be watching Bravo’s Housewives exclusively.) I’m enjoying the fun they’re having now. I assume they’ll get more grouchy as it goes on. I didn’t enjoy in the past seeing the horrible singers and having seriously delusional people laughed at and ridiculed. Not my idea of fun. So let it be positive, I can deal with that :)

  • sma11ie

    I didn’t get invested in idol to see the winner become a media joke, or to see high finishing contestants be so genre’ specific that they had/have no broad appeal.

    Meh, I think engineered attempts at broad appeal more often than not results in pretty crappy, generic music. But I understand that’s not exactly what you mean. Still, I worry that the best laid plans of the Idol master manipulators this season might just end up with a really shitty copy of someone current.

  • Kris

    I haven’t missed Simon at all. I’ve actually enjoyed the past two episodes. I like the panels chemistry with each other. I also liked that the last episode showed a lot of good auditions. I like seeing the bad auditions but I would like the majority of the episode to be about seeing who actually made it to Hollywood. I’m looking forward to tonight’s episode.

  • Buffynut

    girlygirl:
    01/26/2011 at 11:29 am
    Buffynut

    yeah but Kris refused to play several songs that were on his album. He has never played From the Ashes live and he’s only played Let It Rain once (maybe twice). And he refused to play stuff off BNS. Kris didn’t have to play covers to fill out his sets, he had enough original material — but he likes doing mash-ups…he’s good at them.

    I realize all that. I just don’t get why it’s a big deal if Lee doesn’t want to play all the songs on his new album. Adam didn’t either, Kris didn’t. But if Lee wants to do the same thing and substitute his set list, I don’t get why it is wrong for him but OK for everyone else.

  • Keel

    Meh, I think engineered attempts at broad appeal more often than not results in pretty crappy, generic music.

    I agree. Some of my favorite songs may do great in their particular genre, but would just never cross over and get played on Pop or HAC stations because the song’s just too hard or frenetic or sometimes a bit of a slow build. But that doesn’t mean the song isn’t a great song.

  • Dakota01

    I don’t care if Idol clones a contestant as long as that cloning results in someone who is interesting and appealing and holds their own place in the dog eat dog world of popular (popular not neccessarily “pop”) music. I don’t want an Artist who only appeals to a very small portion of the listening public…I want someone who has appeal over a fairly large spectrum.

    Tess, I agree with you. My point was that it’s possible to find this type of artist without being manufactured by TPTB. Is it like finding a needle in a haystack … probably, but I’m sure it’s not imposssible. I also agree with you about finding a winner with broader appeal. Hopefully this year will yield just that.

  • Keel

    I just don’t get why it’s a big deal if Lee doesn’t want to play all the songs on his new album. Adam didn’t either, Kris didn’t.

    Huh. I didn’t know this. Or that it seems to be common. I wonder why. Not a big deal, but just wondering why they’d do that if they only have the one album to draw from that they wouldn’t sing all songs from that album — at least on a rotating basis.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    My biggest complaint about “Idol” as the years have passed by is that the original premise of the show has fallen by the wayside. The concept behind idol was to find the next popular recording star in the mainstream world of music and for this person to make some kind of impact on the recording world. Well, the winners of idol have been less and less successful within this concept…and the “fault” for this can be spread amongst the contestants, the changing industry, the voters and viewers, and TPTB.

    I didn’t get invested in idol to see the winner become a media joke, or to see high finishing contestants be so genre’ specific that they had/have no broad appeal. I don’t care if Idol clones a contestant as long as that cloning results in someone who is interesting and appealing and holds their own place in the dog eat dog world of popular (popular not neccessarily “pop”) music. I don’t want an Artist who only appeals to a very small portion of the listening public…I want someone who has appeal over a fairly large spectrum.

    Well, you pretty much summed it up.

    Meh, I think engineered attempts at broad appeal more often than not results in pretty crappy, generic music.

    It’s not like music of recent Idol finalists is high quality material. Idol was never meant to discover “true artists” that would produce high quality music. If you are looking for that kind of music from Idols, it’s like going to McDonald’s and ordering a steak and vegetables and being surprised when they serve you a hamburger.

  • Buffynut

    Keel:
    01/26/2011 at 12:24 pm
    Huh. I didn’t know this. Or that it seems to be common. I wonder why. Not a big deal, but just wondering why they’d do that if they only have the one album to draw from that they wouldn’t sing all songs from that album — at least on a rotating basis.

    Trust me when I say there are songs, on Adam’s album that his fans were dying to hear live, and it never happened! :(

  • kidding

    I wonder why. Not a big deal, but just wondering why they’d do that if they only have the one album to draw from that they wouldn’t sing all songs from that album — at least on a rotating basis.

    Adam’s set list was pretty fixed during his Glam Nation tour since he built the show according to certain themes. Not all songs on his album would have necessarily fit the story he wanted to tell.

    ETA: And I think some of Adam’s songs would have been quite difficult to sing live night after night (for example, Can’t let you go…).

  • Mary102

    I saw on twitter where Lee had a twitter party and stated that he will be singing new songs that he has written on tour? He also stated that he is already spending some time on his next album.

    Huhn. That is weird. It would make more sense imo to just play the material from album 1. Definitely WAY premature for album 2 when this one has hardly been out at all. It seems like introducing new material could muddy the waters in terms of building a fanbase, especially for such a new performer.

    Huh. I didn’t know this. Or that it seems to be common. I wonder why. Not a big deal, but just wondering why they’d do that if they only have the one album to draw from that they wouldn’t sing all songs from that album — at least on a rotating basis.

    Well, some songs just don’t lend themselves as well to being live, it could be as simple as that. Adam never did a handful of songs from FYE, and though they were popular among fans, I’ve always thought the main reason is that he just didn’t think it would resonate as well as other material would when being performed live. Even if you just have one album, that still leaves lots of material to cover – so it’s probably not very uncommon.

  • sma11ie

    It’s not like music of recent Idol finalists is high quality material. Idol was never meant to discover “true artists” that would produce high quality music. If you are looking for that kind of music from Idols, it’s like going to McDonald’s and ordering a steak and vegetables and being surprised when they serve you a hamburger.

    I’m not looking for a steak from McDonald’s or the next Ray LaMontagne from American Idol, I’m just saying I hope for not shitty copies of current artists or really crappy music. I actually do hope Idol discovers finalists who have broad appeal, but I also think an overly engineered attempt to find a “broad appeal” winner by the bungling idiots at AI will more likely than not end badly. And by badly, I mean, even worst than the recent finalists who have not produced “high quality material”.

    But if Lee wants to do the same thing and substitute his set list, I don’t get why it is wrong for him but OK for everyone else.

    I don’t think people are questioning Lee’s decision to substitute his set list, because everyone does that, but more his desire to substitute it not with some covers and some pre-Idol stuff, but rather some future album stuff that’s probably at least a year out from ever becoming available for fans.

  • suenigma

    Popeater apparently got to go into the studio with David Cook.

    At the link there is a little video and an article titled “David Cook Gets More ‘Confident’ in Songwriting for Second Album — Exclusive Video”.

    In the video he talks about trusting his own creative process and hilariously says at one point, when something came out wrong, to rewind the tape cause he accidentally sounded like “an arrogant asshole” (which they bleeped, lol).

    Wow, thanks for that Joyed. Hilarious and beautifully shot. Beyond being an incredible vocalist, Cook is just such cool, calm and compelling guy. But maybe that’s just me. LOL.

  • girlygirl

    nvm.

  • suenigma

    I hope for not shitty copies of current artists or really crappy music.

    Hahaha. High standards indeed Smallie. There is just no pleasing you, is there(BTW, I totally agree)?

  • Mel1

    I believe Pick U Up is the only song that Adam never sang in his concerts. It was only heard during sound check. Loaded Smile was performed pre-Glam Nation. Other than a couple of bonus tracks, the rest have been performed. Broken Open actually was taken out of his concert because it didn’t seem to flow with his theme. Many fans were disappointed because it is so beautiful, and his vocals were impeccable.

  • TwigLA

    Girlygirl, I agree with what you said up-thread about this year’s winner going to be manufactured. I’m doubting that I will like whoever ends up in that spot. That’s a real shame since I’ve found some of the people we’ve seen so far to be quite talented.

    As far as Kris’ set on tour, whether as headliner or as a supporting act, he tailor made it to fit the audience. He chose to include well known covers and his incredible mash-ups, for people who weren’t familiar with him. It’s easier to get into a new artist when you know the words to a song.

    I thought his approach worked very well and he came away with many new fans. Lee would be smart to take a page out of his book. Of course, maybe Lee isn’t confident that he’ll retain his contract and wants to take advantage of the time he has to introduce new music to whatever audiences he can get.

  • Elliegrll

    I thought that Steven Tyler was making fun of Victoria, not flirting with her. He was pointing out that she was a fake pageant bot, who knew all of the tricks to get on the judges good side, which is why it was a surprise that he voted to put her through to Hollywood.

  • larc

    Mary102:
    It would make more sense imo to just play the material from album 1. Definitely WAY premature for album 2 when this one has hardly been out at all. It seems like introducing new material could muddy the waters in terms of building a fanbase, especially for such a new performer.

    Sounds as if Lee can be added to the list of those who have already written LIU off.

  • LaRue

    Elliegrll:
    01/26/2011 at 1:00 pm
    I thought that Steven Tyler was making fun of Victoria, not flirting with her. He was pointing out that she was a fake pageant bot, who knew all of the tricks to get on the judges good side, which is why it was a surprise that he voted to put her through to Hollywood.

    The judging panel definitely had Victoria’s number. They had her tagged as a pageant kid. Steven was certainly not flirting with her. He verbally called her on her personality in a way, Jennifer looked amused by her and Randy was chuckling while she talked. I contend that her ‘yo, yo dawg!’ was what got her in, because it felt somewhat organic and real.

  • sma11ie

    Steven was certainly not flirting with her. He verbally called her on her personality in a way, Jennifer looked amused by her and Randy was chuckling while she talked.

    Steven wasn’t flirting with her, but at the end, when she brought up the hemline, he commented on it being “very nice”, while looking up and down at her legs. That part of it *was* a little creepy.

  • LaRue

    Steven wasn’t flirting with her, but at the end, when she brought up the hemline, he commented on it being “very nice”, while looking up and down at her legs. That part of it *was* a little creepy.

    I don’t know. Compared to how he eyed up some other contestants, Steven’s interaction with Victoria didn’t seem that out there to me. But I can see where it would feel skeevy to someone else.

  • larc

    Mel1:
    I believe Pick U Up is the only song that Adam never sang in his concerts. It was only heard during sound check.

    I’m still somewhat in mourning about that. PUU is my favorite song from the album. I may live long enough to get over it, but I’m not sure… ;)

  • Joyed

    I’m still somewhat in mourning about that. PUU is my favorite song from the album.

    I know! I REALLY like that song, so of course I’ll never get to hear it live. Does anyone know if the soundcheck where he sang it was recorded?

  • sma11ie

    Compared to how he eyed up some other contestants, Steven’s interaction with Victoria didn’t seem that out there to me. But I can see where it would feel skeevy to someone else.

    Oh certainly, he was way worse when eyeing (sp?) some other contestants, but I find *all* the eyeing skeevy, and the even slight eyeing of Victoria was not fun for me to watch because she’s 16. All that said, none of this has been that bad, or graduated beyond slight skeeviness, YET. I hope it doesn’t, cuz I really like Steven.

  • connie0128

    Kris has performed all of the songs from his basic album live at least once. Let It Rain was only done once or twice. He didn’t do From the Ashes which was a bonus track. For a while he wasn’t doing Send Me All Your Angels (bonus track at Walmart) or I Need to Know but did add them in at various times. Has never done anything from BNS, although I heard those songs requested by fans at several concerts. He definitely mixes it up based on his audience and his mood. I think he does a nice balance of album songs and covers. The covers are wildly popular with audiences.

    Kris added one new song (Leave You Alone) twice at the end of his last tour. I believe David Cook previewed a new song at the end of his last tour, too. (correct me if I am wrong). However, both had toured extensively in support of their albums and knew they were getting a second album. Those first albums had been out for over a year before the new music was added to the concerts and, at least for Kris, it was only one song. I just don’t see the label letting Lee tour with new music – they will want him to support his album.

    PUU was one of my faves from Adam’s album. Really wish he would do it live at least once.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I’m another fan who would have loved to have heard Adam sing PUU live.

  • koshka

    I don’t think people are questioning Lee’s decision to substitute his set list, because everyone does that, but more his desire to substitute it not with some covers and some pre-Idol stuff, but rather some future album stuff that’s probably at least a year out from ever becoming available for fans.

    I get the feeling he is talking out his ass right now.. and he and his management haven’t yet sat down to talk fine detail regarding his ‘tour’.

  • sr4mjc

    I believe Pick U Up is the only song that Adam never sang in his concerts. It was only heard during sound check.

    I think it was ‘Time for Miracles’ that was reported during a sound check with some murky audio that sounds nothing like it. And I think there were some tweets about ‘Pick U Up’ but there’s been no audio and no confirmation of that. He’s also never sung ‘Can’t Let You Go’ or ‘Master Plan’ live, to my knowledge.

  • lucy

    I don’t want to see any of the judges be mean, degrading and nasty like Simon, but I also don’t want to see them swayed too much by backstories or sympathy. It’s possible to be direct without being mean, and I think that would be best.

    I completely agree. …. Something tells me that this is the one thing we will never, ever get, however.

    Sappy sweet or mean seem to be considered good television. Straightforward and reasonable, not so much.

  • larc

    connie0128:
    PUU was one of my faves from Adam’s album. Really wish he would do it live at least once.

    It’s probably a very hard song to sing. I’m thinking Adam’s giggle at the end of that album track may have been because he knew he had nailed it after who knows how many tries.

  • Elliegrll

    I get the feeling he is talking out his ass right now.. and he and his management haven’t yet sat down to talk fine detail regarding his ‘tour’.

    How do you know? Venues can’t be booked at the last minute, and most acts are planning things out now. And now would be the time where Lee and his band would be practicing together, and working on the arrangements for the songs that they will be performing. I don’t see why he wouldn’t mix things up with songs from LIU, new stuff, and covers.

  • Buffynut

    kidding:
    01/26/2011 at 12:32 pm
    Adam’s set list was pretty fixed during his Glam Nation tour since he built the show according to certain themes. Not all songs on his album would have necessarily fit the story he wanted to tell.

    For the first 3 parts of the show, yes, it was pretty fixed. But he varied the encore enough to where he could have done other FYE songs, if he wanted to. Guess he didn’t want to!

    Mel, he never sang Pick U Up, Master Plan, or Can’t Let You Go. True they are bonus tracks or foreign tracks but so is Voo-Doo.

  • koshka

    How do you know?

    And how do you know everything is being planned out to a tee? Its my opinion. *shrug* Still think he is talking out his ass.. for the moment.

  • kidding

    But he varied the encore enough to where he could have done other FYE songs, if he wanted to.

    Weren’t the encore songs always covers? I guess that was his thing for the encore. It sort of separated the encore from the rest of the show :)

  • Hazehel

    I don’t think people are questioning Lee’s decision to substitute his set list, because everyone does that, but more his desire to substitute it not with some covers and some pre-Idol stuff, but rather some future album stuff that’s probably at least a year out from ever becoming available for fans.

    That isn’t really unusual. Daughtry regularly sang You Don’t Belong, the first track on his second album, for at least a year before that the album came out.
    You Don’t Belong – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTl9L8sh-Tw

  • sma11ie

    Kris added one new song (Leave You Alone) twice at the end of his last tour. I believe David Cook previewed a new song at the end of his last tour, too. (correct me if I am wrong). However, both had toured extensively in support of their albums and knew they were getting a second album. Those first albums had been out for over a year before the new music was added to the concerts and, at least for Kris, it was only one song. I just don’t see the label letting Lee tour with new music – they will want him to support his album.

    David Cook’s Declaration tour started in February of 2009, and ended in December of 2009. The first time he unveiled a new song was in November of 2009, after 9 months of touring. That song was Make Believe. He went on to play it 7 times. After the tour ended, and after two months of writing for the second album, he had a one-off show in February of 2010, where he played U and I, a new song that was in contention for the album. Then he continued writing, and had a two more one-off shows in August 2010, where he unveiled Paper Heart, and played that song both days. So he’s played in concert three “new songs”, they were at the very end of his tour, or after his tour ended, certainly not in the beginning of his tour. Sorry, that was way more information than you asked for ;).

    That isn’t really unusual. Daughtry regularly sang You Don’t Belong, the first track on his second album, for at least a year before that the album came out.

    But a year before his second album for Daughtry was still months after he started his tour, right?

  • Indigobunting

    I realize all that. I just don’t get why it’s a big deal if Lee doesn’t want to play all the songs on his new album. Adam didn’t either, Kris didn’t. But if Lee wants to do the same thing and substitute his set list, I don’t get why it is wrong for him but OK for everyone else.

    Danny Gokey sings his entire album except for the iTunes bonus song at each of his own full length concerts.

    But there are only 10 songs (plus the bonus) on his album and his concert is 1.5 hours long so there is plenty of time to sing the whole album plus some fun covers.

    I do love hearing all the songs-some I love even more live and a few I like recorded versions. Many people wish he would sing his bonus song also.

  • tripp_ncwy

    Chris Torres playing base for David Cook’s new album? Go Latin Jesus go. At least he was in the studio during the popeater interview.

  • connie0128

    The KOL/Ryan Murphy feud is getting a bit ridiculous. Everyone needs to shut up. I am, however, very fond of Sue Sylvester’s tweets about Slash:

    Slash, I agree that Glee Club shoudn’t cover your music

    I don’t want the artistic integrity of “dead Horse” and “Monkey Chow” compromised either.

  • sr4mjc

    This KOL/Ryan Murphy thing is getting lulzy. Now both parties look like major douchebags. Drummer from KOL did apologize for how he sounded. But probably a good time to STFU on both sides.

  • CanadianFan

    I think it was ‘Time for Miracles’ that was reported during a sound check with some murky audio that sounds nothing like it. And I think there were some tweets about ‘Pick U Up’ but there’s been no audio and no confirmation of that. He’s also never sung ‘Can’t Let You Go’ or ‘Master Plan’ live, to my knowledge.

    sr4mjc I heard Time for Miracles at the Vegas sound check. It was amazing.

  • standtotheright

    This KOL/Ryan Murphy thing is getting lulzy. Now both parties look like major douchebags.

    The Followills always look like douchebags. This is actually one of the rare times when they look less so than their antagonist. Congrats, Ryan Murphy!

  • Hazehel

    But a year before his second album for Daughtry was still months after he started his tour, right?

    The earlier YouTube video I can find of his performance of that song is some time in February 2008 (close to a year and a half before his album release), that’s when he was touring with Bon Jovi. I have no idea when he first performed the song. He had been touring since early 2007.

    But that is neither here nor there, I was just replying to your point about playing a song from an album not available to fans for at least a year.

  • sr4mjc

    sr4mjc I heard Time for Miracles at the Vegas sound check. It was amazing.

    grr.. I wish there was better audio! I couldn’t even make it out in the You tube. I tried with the power of suggestion :) It’s not even my favorite song, but I’ve always wanted to hear him belt it out live.

  • HR

    The first Daughtry album was released Nov. ’06 and started to finally slow down a couple years later. “You Don’t Belong” was premiered during the tour with Bon Jovi in ’08 as they were shifting into preparing for a second album. They tested a few other songs live during that time. “YDB” was the only one that made the main album. A couple others ended up as bonus songs. Prior to that the only songs performed in the first year were those on the album, cover songs, or songs that hadn’t made the cut of the first album.

  • connie0128

    There is no guarantee that any new music performed by Lee on tour will ever be released on an album. Anything he does now belongs to his current label. If they drop him without a second album (not saying they will), the music still belongs to them. He won’t be able to take it to another label and record it.

    Of course, this will all probably turn out to be one big misunderstanding and everyone will have been angsty for nothing.

  • springboard

    I feel really sorry for Lee. It seems like a desperate attempt at showing what he is capable of, something new and different.

  • Hazehel

    I feel really sorry for Lee. It seems like a desperate attempt at showing what he is capable of, something new and different.

    I’m sure there are plenty of reasons to feel sorry for Lee, but how does playing new songs equals desperate? If I read it correctly, he wrote the songs while on the idol tour, so those songs could have been for his first album but didn’t make the cut. Most singer songwriter must have done that, singing songs on tour that didn’t make their album and which may eventually make their future album. What make Lee’s case special?

  • sma11ie

    Chris Torres playing base for David Cook’s new album? Go Latin Jesus go.

    Who’s Chris Torres?

    But that is neither here nor there, I was just replying to your point about playing a song from an album not available to fans for at least a year.

    Gotcha. I should’ve not emphasized the not available for at least a year, but rather focused on how unusual it is to do (or talk about doing) a brand new song before your current tour has even begun. I mean, David debuted Make Believe in November 2009, towards the end of his tour, and it’s been over a year, LOL. Besides which, I don’t think Make Believe will make the album, but my point should’ve been, it wasn’t done at the beginning of his tour supporting the first album. Clear as mud, sorry =P.

    The Followills always look like douchebags. This is actually one of the rare times when they look less so than their antagonist. Congrats, Ryan Murphy!

    Haha, you nailed it, really. This is coming from someone who watches Glee (but doesn’t think it’s THAT great), and someone who owns three KOL albums (but do think they can be d-bags).

    If I read it correctly, he wrote the songs while on the idol tour, so those songs could have been for his first album but didn’t make the cut. Most singer songwriter must have done that, singing songs on tour that didn’t make their album. What make Lee’s case special?

    Oh, sorry. I thought we were talking about new songs he’s just written for the next album, not ones that didn’t make the last album. In that case, it’s totally normal. David Cook did a song (Souvenir) that didn’t make the album pretty early on in his tour. Anyway, I don’t feel bad for Lee or see this as a sign he’s a failure or anything (that’s kind of a stretch to come to that conclusion just because he might do some new songs right away). I’m just commenting because I thought debuting future album songs right off the bat seemed a little unusual, is all.

  • artemis

    Or maybe Lee just really, really likes his new song. He is a songwriter-that’s what he does. We’ll see if we hear it when he tours.

    I miss Simon already. Three cheerful positive people on one judging panel is just too much for me. I’ll keep watching, though. Maybe someone will get grumpy or snarky before too many more episodes go by.

  • Chicagolaw

    LOL, I don’t think Adam has any idea how much PUU is loved by the fans. Although I think his dad has said it’s his favorite song on FYE.

    Singing brand-new songs only a few months after your album is out would be unusual. Maybe Lee was talking about songs written for LIU that didn’t make the cut? That would make more sense.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    lol kings of leon

  • tripp_ncwy

    Who’s Chris Torres?

    Chris is Kris Allen’s base player.

  • connie0128

    I saw on twitter where Lee had a twitter party and stated that he will be singing new songs that he has written on tour? He also stated that he is already spending some time on his next album.

    Why would he perform new songs on tour where he should be supporting his current album because its success/failure will dictate if he gets another album? The new songs would not even be availbe for purchase. I just don’t understand that.

    According to the original post, it is more than one new song. There’s nothing wrong with new songs, just the idea that the tour should primarily support the current album. Nothing wrong with planning for the next album, nothing wrong with new songs (although if there are MP3′s of performances it could impact sales of the next album.) I just think the label will want him to support his brand new album and increase it’s sales before going on to the next one.

    Twitter is the devil. No telling what Lee said and/or really meant.

  • IndyMuse

    Smallie, I understood Souvenir was a song from the mysterious never-released 2nd solo album David did between Analog Heart and Idol. It was not considered for DCTR, as far as I know. That truly is a song no one could buy.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    the bitch tweeting adam is getting on my nerves

  • progression

    Smallie, I understood Souvenir was a song from the mysterious never-released 2nd solo album David did between Analog Heart and Idol. It was not considered for DCTR, as far as I know.

    I think We’re Only Honest When We’re Sleeping was the song off the mysterious 2nd solo record. Souvenir was a song he said he’d written for DCTR that didn’t make it but that he “hoped” might make “the next one”.

  • bridgette12

    luvadamlambert:
    01/26/2011 at 3:49 pm
    the bitch tweeting adam is getting on my nerves

    That person is totally nuts, I think Adam has blocked her.

  • sma11ie

    Smallie, I understood Souvenir was a song from the mysterious never-released 2nd solo album David did between Analog Heart and Idol. It was not considered for DCTR, as far as I know.

    I was under the impression We’re Only Honest When We’re Sleeping is the only song (aside from A Daily AntheM, which made DCTR) from the unreleased 2nd solo album, and Souvenir was a cowrite that didn’t make DCTR. Can someone confirm? ETA: Thanks, progression.

  • CanadianFan

    grr.. I wish there was better audio! I couldn’t even make it out in the You tube. I tried with the power of suggestion It’s not even my favorite song, but I’ve always wanted to hear him belt it out live.

    Adam’s whole sound check in Vegas was phenomenal. I have never heard a more beautiful version of Soaked. His voice just soared.

  • http://emuisemo.pbworks.com eilonwy

    Sma11ie, yup, that’s the correct distribution of “mysterious new songs launched early in the Declaration Tour.” QTTaquito put together a comprehensive reference of songs written or co-written by Cook from the earliest known stuff to DCTR, and it has details.

  • progression

    ETA: Thanks, progression

    Heh. You’re welcome :) Great day *happy sigh*

  • Elliegrll

    There is no guarantee that any new music performed by Lee on tour will ever be released on an album. Anything he does now belongs to his current label. If they drop him without a second album (not saying they will), the music still belongs to them. He won’t be able to take it to another label and record it

    The songs belong to whoever owns the publishing rights, which wouldn’t be RCA, since 19 just licenses the songs to them.

    Or maybe Lee just really, really likes his new song. He is a songwriter-that’s what he does

    Exactly. Also like a lot of artists, especially the ones who are also musicians and writers, he probably doesn’t want to be tied down to performing the same songs every night.

  • hypertwink

    While I wished that Nathan Followill just shut up/not be allowed near Twitter, Ryan Murphy should stop believing that his shit smells like flowers. As “great” as he may think Glee is, not everyone likes or watches it. I find it all the more amusing that someone who calls people on their supposed homophobia has a record of misogyny and homophobia themselves (nip/tuck, anyone?).

    I like KOL but I know they can be asshole and douchebags but still, they don’t have to say yes to Glee if they don’t want to. As someone from a music blog said perfectly, it’s hard to find someone who can out-douchebag rockstars (and KOL) but hey, congrats, Ryan Murphy!

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  • poster

    Here’s Lee’s actual tweet:

    Q: Are you planning any acoustic songs for your tour set? – Love them!
    A: I am, including new ones I’ve written :)

    I’m sure he’s just planning on trying some new music out, plus like Elliegrlll said above, he might just want to not sing the same songs every concert. Lee loves to do mash-ups too, and he never sings a song the same way, so this could just be him planning to mix things up.

  • IndyMuse

    Awww, I guess I need to go back and re-take Cook discography 101. I either forgot or didn’t know Souvenir was a DCTR almost-track. Gotta study up, I guess! I better hurry, ’cause (God-willing) I’ll have more songs to learn about soon………..

    I’m loving all the recent promo.

  • webster

    I didn’t get invested in idol to see the winner become a media joke, or to see high finishing contestants be so genre’ specific that they had/have no broad appeal. I don’t care if Idol clones a contestant as long as that cloning results in someone who is interesting and appealing and holds their own place in the dog eat dog world of popular (popular not neccessarily “pop”) music. I don’t want an Artist who only appeals to a very small portion of the listening public…I want someone who has appeal over a fairly large spectrum.

    This is pretty much the opposite of my opinion, in all respects. What I want most is to find someone who is truly talented and their own self, artistically speaking. Ideal is if it’s in a genre I like, but I’d rather someone really good in a genre I don’t care that much for (like Adam) than someone so-so in a genre that I like a lot. And I don’t care at all if they have broad appeal, as long as they are really making good music.

    I’d prefer for the best artists to win, but if they don’t, and if they are making mediocre music, I don’t even mind the media barbs. Its a good joke on us fans for annointing mediochrity. On the other hand, If they’re making great music, and get reemed for not selling well, that would annoy me, but I can’t think of a case of that happening.

  • Elliegrll

    I didn’t get invested in idol to see the winner become a media joke, or to see high finishing contestants be so genre’ specific that they had/have no broad appeal. I don’t care if Idol clones a contestant as long as that cloning results in someone who is interesting and appealing and holds their own place in the dog eat dog world of popular (popular not neccessarily “pop”) music. I don’t want an Artist who only appeals to a very small portion of the listening public…I want someone who has appeal over a fairly large spectrum.

    I think that Simon Fuller didn’t want Carrie to make country music, because he felt that there was no way that a country artist could sell more music than a pop artist, but we all know how that’s turned out.

    Making something that people want to hear isn’t as easy as you make t seem, neither is deciding whether or not someone will be an artist who appeals to a lot of people. Just because traditional R&B music isn’t as profitable as pop music right now, it would be a crime to look past any R&B artist just because their music won’t appeal to a large group of people, and the same is true for every genre. AI is at it’s best when the contestant pool is diverse, and when a wide swath of viewers feels like there is someone on stage who they can relate to.

  • easyrider707

    “genre”!??? Exactly what is themeaning of the use of the term?? From my readings here genre means “put an artist work in a box so as to make them less appealing to a broader group, thereby projecting an image that they are limited.” IE, to attempt to put an artist in a box.

    I have been an avid music fan for 35 years and have a massive collection from buying for my families 26 restaurants juke boxes from the 70′s through 2000. I was compensated to track what appeals to customers. I have never witnessed such a lack of understanding in “how a song is sang” or a more uneducated lack of music history.

    In the mid 70′s, while in 9th grad, I was flipping through a Playboy magazine (as young men did then) and saw an article about a new musician. Since I was already buying for the restaurants and had a music interest I read it and liked what I read. I cut out the two fold picture of the guy and hunk it in my room. The artist was signed by the same record company and agent as one of my fav’s Bob Dylan. The guy was billed as the next great folk singer (IE, already placing him in that “genre” box you refer to). Well, I bought the album that had been released a couple years back on sale. I listened to it and really liked the album. However, I had no idea what similiarity the album had to folk or to Dylan.

    The album sold only 25,000 copies. Then a second album came out immediately thereafter and it sold even less. I did not understand as I loved the music, but it was not folk as defined by that eras folk revolution music. Then, after the rock of the 60′s and great shift to folk, an interesting thing happened. The birth and expansion of what is termed Muscle Shoals Studio and the great blending of Blues, Rock, Soul, and a touch of country. All of a sudden my favorite artist music kind of stood out as a little more progressive than even the Muscle Shoals sound.

    Columbia did not drop the artist after 2 dismal “genre” folk?? targeted failures. No, they expanded the money and got new (except for 2) band members and allowed the artist 14 months to make an album. So, after building a great live performance act and several years after signing the artist produced a “successful” record. Or, what is success?

    Turns out that the first album I bought was inducted into the list of 500 greatest albums of all time by Rolling Stone in 2003 (#368). None of this artists SINGLES made the top 10 until 1984 (although someone else sang one from the first album in 1977 and hit #1 by changing the delivery of the song – maybe that is your genre?).

    Well, in 1999 Bruce Sprinsteen was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He has sold 65 million albums, and has still not had a #1 SINGLE. And the album, Greetings From Asbury Park, is now a classic. Manfred Mann sang Blinded by the Light and the Sprinsgteen version is oh so much better.

    These stories are all over the history of music and rock and roll. You see, some artists move the cheese and others just feed the rats in the same place – or your genre.

  • tigervixxxen

    Thanks Poster for bringing here what Lee actually said. Context is wonderful isn’t it?

    Q: are you writing songs as you feel inspired, or are you starting to focus on your next album.
    A: A little bit of both

    There is his actual answer about working on new material. Doesn’t mean he’s given up on LIU, as Artemis said he’s a songwriter and is always working on new material. Of course I expect him to play at least 80% of his songs from LIU on tour. Covers are good for an audience that may not be familiar with the album. What difference does it make if non album tracks are from albums that were released prior to Idol, written for the album or written after the album was released? The point is the audience doesn’t know the song and can’t go out and purchase it. Lee has already done Anabelle (from pre Idol) several times in concert on the radio promo tour, so if he chooses to trade that out for new song X or Y it doesn’t make a difference. Yes, I know Anabelle is available for purchase but not to RCA’s benefit and they didn’t ban him from doing that song so same difference. I’ve been a casual fan at some concerts and was excited when the band announced doing some new material. There is a cool sense of feeling like getting something exclusive and a sneak peek. So I don’t think there is a whole lot to conclude there.

  • webster

    Easyrider, i’m not sure I follow your whole post, but there’s a lot to think about there. But I will say, the concept of genre is not a box, or at least not necessarily so. Good musicians just make music. But the result is stuff that has musical characteristics that cluster together. Not rigidly so, but generally so. If I took my cd collection, spanning more than 1000 years (in composition) and every continent, and made a scatter plot of characteristics, there would be some obvious clusters of instruments, keys, chord progressions, scales, rhythms etc. Those clusters are genres. It’s not something imposed on the music from on high, it’s just the non-random result of musical communication. Of course, sniping over genre-labels is something else.

    I’m enjoying chewing on the concept of a more uneducated lack of music history. I can’t decide if it’s something to strive for or avoid.

  • Elliegrll

    “genre”!??? Exactly what is themeaning of the use of the term?? From my readings here genre means “put an artist work in a box

    You can look at as putting an artist in a box, but most people aren’t going to buy an album or attend concerts, until they know that they will like more than one or two songs on an album, and in order to connect with people, artists need a clearly defined musical identity. After artists become more established they can start experimenting more, and changing up their styles.

  • webster

    I’ve been a casual fan at some concerts and was excited when the band announced doing some new material. There is a cool sense of feeling like getting something exclusive

    I totally I agree, tigervixxxen. I don’t have any interest in Lee at all as a singer, but this makes me respect him completely as a musician and writer. Some people are just performers. Cool. Some pretend to be writers. Lame. But musicians who really have something to say don’t only write on an album schedule. And every real musician I follow performs new material, under development, prior to recording it. It’s part of the writing process. Good on Lee, if that’s what he’s doing.

  • Truthiness

    As someone from a music blog said perfectly, it’s hard to find someone who can out-douchebag rockstars (and KOL) but hey, congrats, Ryan Murphy!

    It’s battle of the douches! Seriously, I didn’t know Ryan had some heavy competition here after what he said, but the KOL really made a ‘game’ of it with the “buy a bra,” bit. But I agree, I give the edge in the douche-stakes to Ryan on this one.

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  • steph6449

    Just my opinion, but it seems to me when he’s trying to perform his original music Lee would be better singing songs from his album or something else an audience would be likely to know, vs. songs that an audience would have absolutely no chance of knowing. And no chance of buying from him for quite a while unless he has some thought of releasing individual songs or an EP. It’s hard to imagine RCA wanting to pony up for producing or distributing any more music anytime soon, however, with his first album barely out and not particularly having lit up the sales or radio charts.

    If he performs songs from his RCA album, maybe people who don’t own the album would like the performance and actually buy the album. Or maybe his strategy is based on a different view of how that would turn out :?

    I agree also with the comments that he should include some covers to give the audiences something they can relate to when he’s performing in front of audiences who may not know him at all, or just casually.

  • steph6449

    Kris has performed all of the songs from his basic album live at least once. Let It Rain was only done once or twice. He didn’t do From the Ashes which was a bonus track. For a while he wasn’t doing Send Me All Your Angels (bonus track at Walmart) or I Need to Know but did add them in at various times. [..]
    PUU was one of my faves from Adam’s album. Really wish he would do it live at least once.

    That’s interesting. Is there any sense whether Kris or Adam don’t particularly love those specific songs, or they aren’t the kind of songs that work in concert?

    Danny regularly performed all ten of the songs on his album in concert. His full show was all ten songs, with 5-7 covers that varied. He never has performed the iTunes pre-order bonus song although he’s had some fans asking. Seems to be a story there…

    In Lee’s case, I don’t know how much influence the record label has on concert tour song selections, if any, but seems like RCA would want Lee to perform at least a good cross-section of his album songs if they support his touring.

  • tigervixxxen

    RCA would want Lee to perform at least a good cross-section of his album songs

    I agree. We are talking about one song in a 8+ song set here. Nobody is suggesting Lee play an entire set of new material. Like Webster said some people may like knowing he’s produced some material recently, others won’t care or will want him to get back to something they’ve heard. It is just 3-4 minutes we are talking about here, not big in the whole grand scheme of things.

  • springboard
    I feel really sorry for Lee. It seems like a desperate attempt at showing what he is capable of, something new and different.

    I’m sure there are plenty of reasons to feel sorry for Lee, but how does playing new songs equals desperate? If I read it correctly, he wrote the songs while on the idol tour, so those songs could have been for his first album but didn’t make the cut. Most singer songwriter must have done that, singing songs on tour that didn’t make their album and which may eventually make their future album. What make Lee’s case special?

    Yes, I agree, I think I over-reacted in the first place :)