HDD - Album Sales Prediction - Oct 18-24

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This truly is the Q4 of Country as a country act once again tops the charts. Sugarland’s “Incredible Machine” has already been credited with over 134K in sales and with the nearest competitor down at 60K, should have no problem holding onto the number one spot. Kings of Leon follow-up on their last breakthrough album with good sales in second, Lil Wayne holds onto the top 5, Rod Stewart proves there is still a market for covers of standards from gravelly voiced rockers of yore and Elton John makes an album with his mentor.

Glee continues to move units with its “Rocky Horror Show” album making it into the top 10. Big Time Rush’s latest album featuring a song with Jordin holds on for 13th, Now 35 featuring a song by Carrie is at 18 and Santana’s latest featuring a song with Chris Daughtry is at 34. Fantasia is the sole Idol in the top 50.

This is the daily numbers thread. Come around and post.

CHART DATE: 10/25/2010
LAST UPDATE: 10/25/2010 12:54:21
NOW IN: 54.02%

LW TW artist / album label power index
– 1 SUGARLAND INCREDIBLE MACHINE 134,269
– 2 KINGS OF LEON COME AROUND SUNDOWN 59,623
1 3 LIL WAYNE I AM NOT A HUMAN BEING 32,088
– 4 ROD STEWART FLY ME TO THE MOON 29,024

– 5 ELTON JOHN & LEON RUSSEL UNION 28,109

– 9 GLEE CAST ROCKY HORROR GLEE SHOW 19,648

3 13 BIG TIME RUSH B.T.R. 15,613

21 18 NOW THAT’S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 35 13,403

18 33 SANTANA GUITAR HEAVEN: GREATEST GUITAR 5,214

35 30 FANTASIA BACK TO ME 5,971

HDD Building Chart

 
  • jpfan

    HDD says Taylor Swift could sell 650-700K albums this week. That’s the expectation not the official prediction.

  • Kirsten

    HDD says Taylor Swift could sell 650-700K albums this week.

    Wow.

  • lucy

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-pollack/losing-steam-why-digital-_b_772769.html

    Taylor Swift aside (heh), single digital track sales are down:

    “Although digital album sales for 2010 are up overall, according to SoundScan, the first nine months of digital track sales this year are lagging behind the same time period in ’09.”

    Part of this, apparently, is that digital album sales are climbing and partly replacing singles sales.

    But mp3 player sales are also down:

    “There is a rapid decline in the dedicated MP3 player. Apple’s recent 3rd quarter financial review revealed the fact that iPod sales were down 11% year to year. That’s not an unexpected development given the meteoric rise of the iPhone and iPad, which both include iPod capabilities, but it does point out that the dedicated music player is an endangered species.”

    And that kind of makes me wonder whether music itself will wane as entertainment a bit because it can be replaced by playing games and hanging out on social media. It happened to tv, so I don’t see why it can’t happen to music.

  • Chicagolaw

    Taylor Swift also has a pretty huge TV ad running for her new album. I think I saw it twice last night. She was also on the cover of People last week. I’m sure she will have enormous opening numbers.

  • sr4mjc

    Her label said she’d sell a million a few months back. Then the prediction changed to 750k. Now 650k, so they are tempering expectations as they go. Hope she remembers to send Kanye his daily fruit basket :)

    Not that 650 is anything to sneeze at.

  • hersheydog1

    Taylor is everywhere – there are huge banners as you walk into Walmart that have been there a couple of weeks.

  • lucy

    Taylor S’s tv ad is a really effective one, too, I think. I actually have found myself watching it all the way through, with attention, twice, and most of the time I’m reading or rushing over to squeeze in some ironing during ads. It’s one of those stealth ads that creeps up on you so that you don’t at first realize it’s an ad — has a good-music-video kind of graphics vibe, tells a story, is funny. …. So … very effective advertising on top of her already juggernaut-type domination of the current music scene. And yet *they’re* downsizing their sales expectations. That’s interesting and a bit ominous, I’d say.

  • Tess

    The three most visible recording stars out there are easily GaGa, Bieber, and Swift. Heck, Google has “theme” pages of some of these that you can pull up as screen savers or backgrounds. Taylor is everywhere…there are few music related sites that don’t have her picture slathered all over them…just like GaGa and JB have had.

    Mega success has a way of fostering more commercial success (at least for a brief period).

    Very few peeps are going to listen to Swift’s new album before purchasing it so they aren’t buying it because it is great (or even good), they are going to buy it because it is the “thing” to possess, right now. Nothing bad about this…I am sure many of us wish our favs could have this kind of recognition and selling power. But, as far as Swift, we do know that she has lost some of her initial mojo, that she has shown her inability to sing live, and that she is outgrowing her material very rapidly…and soon she will “outgrow” her fandom. But for now she is the “princess” and will be given the royal treatment.

  • Studio57

    Regarding ipods- there are so many other ways to get your music now besidea the ipod. Phones are so sophisticated right now just about everyone I know personally in their 20′s have mp3s on their phones and alot of kids just listen to it from their computers- hell I listen to music on my computer more than the ipod now. Case in point- Lady Gaga’s music videos just hit the BILLION mark. Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? ;)

    And speaking of radio- No one listens to it anymore except people that HAVE to in their cars.

    Looks like video is killing the radio/itunes star all over again.

  • sma11ie

    650K may be tempered expectations but it’s still incredible in this age. She’s seriously everywhere. Everyone is talking about her album, even people who don’t follow music. It’s not expensive, either- it’s on sale on Amazon MP3 for $3.99 today (use MJ’s Amazon link up top!), and even the physical CD is selling for just $8.00 from Amazon. On the other hand, I saw her concert on the Today show this morning… and let’s just say I won’t be in line to buy the CD at any price other than free =P.

    And that kind of makes me wonder whether music itself will wane as entertainment a bit because it can be replaced by playing games and hanging out on social media. It happened to tv, so I don’t see why it can’t happen to music.

    I’m not surprised by the decline in sales of dedicated music players, as everything is getting more and more integrated, but I don’t think music itself is on the wane. It’s just that people are listening to music via iPads and smartphones that are multifunction. It’s just like I see flipcams, basic point and shoot digital cameras, and GPS devices declining, simply because people have great video recording, photo taking, GPS functions, and music players on their smartphones.

  • Trina

    I picked up Taylor’s CD in Walmart for my daughter and holy crap! Big banners, cardboard cut outs when you walk into the music section; she had three displays and two displays were almost sold out.

    Even if she sells 650K her first week that’s freaking amazing. And anyone who has followed her sales pattern knows her CD’s have loong legs that just sell and sell consistently.

  • Indigobunting

    Taylor is everywhere – there are huge banners as you walk into Walmart that have been there a couple of weeks.

    Yeah, cover of Country Weekly also.

    I love my IPOD. I don’t want to cart around an IPAD or double use my phone. Doesn’t anyone listen to music anymore when they exercise?! Get off your computers America and go exercise! (pot calling the kettle black here :lol: )

    How is Lee doing on ITunes? Didn’t his single go for sale yesterday?

  • Kirsten

    And speaking of radio- No one listens to it anymore except people that HAVE to in their cars.

    I listen to the radio in my car and I don’t have to. I like hearing new music and my-drive time DJs are hilarious.

    I’m not surprised by the decline in sales of dedicated music players, as everything is getting more and more integrated, but I don’t think music itself is on the wane.

    Another reason for the decline in sales is that most people who want an MP3 player (whether a dedicated one or one in their phone) already have one. We saw the same decline with VHS and DVD players and cellphones as they reached market saturation. Now, there are mostly just replacement sales.

    The same thing happens with music. The massive CD sales in the 80s and 90s wasn’t just new music. People were replacing their entire tape/vinyl collection with CDs so there was a lot catalog sales. Same thing happened with digital downloads. It’s the catalog sales that are now suffering, the new music is doing well.

    Taylor is everywhere

    It will be interesting to see what will happen when the titans collide tonight. Currently, on iTunes, Taylor holds the top spot, 3 of the top 5 spots, 5 of the top 10 spots and 10 of the top 20 spots. Although one can already buy the Glee songs from tonight’s show, the songs always do better after the episode airs. It will be interesting to see who dominates tomorrow.

    Meanwhile, Lee has broken into the top 100 (currently at 93) and, in news that makes my blood run cold, Willow’s “Whip My Hair” (a song that will soon be topping “Most Annoying Songs Ever” charts) is at 34. That chorus alone will be used in many a torture session in the future.

  • lucy

    I’m not surprised by the decline in sales of dedicated music players, as everything is getting more and more integrated, but I don’t think music itself is on the wane. It’s just that people are listening to music via iPads and smartphones that are multifunction.

    That’s certainly true. But I still wonder whether music will lose out when it’s placed on a device with more interactive stuff, more dramatic stuff….

    Look at how well (not) music has fared on television.

    Back in the early days of tv, there were pretty many musical variety shows and such (from American Bandstand to Andy Williams and Lawrence Welk), but those really really faded from the scene as, I would guess, people found more engaging things to do with the device than listen to music.

    And now the music shows that remain on tv, like American Idol — Well, look at how much time in the average American Idol hour is spent on actual music … It’s well under 15 minutes, many times. Instead, they treat us to backstory and banter — and I’m 100 percent sure that they do that because assiduous focus-grouping and polling tell them that that’s a better way to retain eyeballs.

    I would actually bet that the decline of dedicated music devices will also mean a decline in digital music sales, ultimately.

  • sr4mjc

    Taylor’s Today show performance was pretty bad, she was so out of breath.

    Lee’s holding at #93 for now.

  • girlygirl

    I can’t play music on my cheap cell phone — only thing it can do is call or text :)

    Forget Taylor Swift, look at KOL. In that Billboard article a couple of weeks ago, they were projecting KOL’s 1st week sales at well over 200,000 — looks like they won’t do anywhere near that projection.

  • Q3

    “Although digital album sales for 2010 are up overall, according to SoundScan, the first nine months of digital track sales this year are lagging behind the same time period in ‘09.”

    Part of this, apparently, is that digital album sales are climbing and partly replacing singles sales.

    I think that CD album sales are shifting to digital — a bit — thus the increase in digital album sales. Partly due to the lack of distribution for CDs as retail inventories are declining. But total album sales are down and total single sales are down in both the US and Japan. Markets #1 and #2. It is a huge issue!

    The IFPI and RIAA studies indicate that digital track sales are moving to free downloads (stolen music).

    An indication that piracy is the root cause of the decline is htat the countries that have enacted tough anti-piracy legistation like the UK and Korea — are all having either an increase in total music sales revenues this year or at least a reduction in the rate of decline.

    Unless the US passes legislation to hold ISPs accountable for support this system (UK has done it!) total recorded music sales will continue to decline.

  • Q3

    Taylor Swift has 18 tracks on iTunes top 200 tracks — and 17 in the top 100. I do not remember seeing something like this before except for Glee and for the Glee tracks from a show there is no Glee album.

    Is this a fan action to buy singles or is it just people only want a few tracks????

  • girlygirl

    POP chart (below #50)

    117 119 KRIS ALLEN Heartless 32 34 -2 0.272
    105 123 DAVID ARCHULETA Something ‘Bout Love 29 46 -17 0.088
    — 165 KRIS ALLEN Alright With Me 14 0 14 0.036
    +9 spots (174)
    +3 spins
    +3 bullet
    +0.006 AI
    128 206 DAVID ARCHULETA Elevator 8 26 -18 0.006

  • Indigobunting

    Is this a fan action to buy singles or is it just people only want a few tracks????

    I thought that was odd also. She does appeal to younger fans/tweens who buy singles more than albums, so I guess I can see that, but still.

    Hope Sugarland meets their prediction. I loved their last album but really not crazy about this one.

  • springboard

    Itunes:
    #534. I Run for Life (Live) – Melissa Etheridge & Crystal Bowersox

    I am surprised that a charity single doesn’t raise more interest.

  • girlygirl

    there have been a ton of charity singles this year, and people only have so much $$$ they are able to donate. also, it didn’t get much publicity.

  • Elliegrll

    David Archuleta’s Falling Stars is listed under Cool New Music on All Access’ HAC panel.

    Taylor Swift has 18 tracks on iTunes top 200 tracks — and 17 in the top 100. I do not remember seeing something like this before except for Glee and for the Glee tracks from a show there is no Glee album.

    Is this a fan action to buy singles or is it just people only want a few tracks????

    Actually the same thing happened when she released the Platinum edition of Fearless. The funny thing about that situation is that most of the songs that charted were in the regular version of the album, but people still bought them again, so I think it’s a combination of fans buying anything that she releases, and people buying certain songs. I think the Fearless situation even resulted in her setting a Billboard record.

  • gangreen29

    n news that makes my blood run cold, Willow’s “Whip My Hair” (a song that will soon be topping “Most Annoying Songs Ever” charts) is at 34. That chorus alone will be used in many a torture session in the future.

    Thanks for reminding me, I gotta go get my copy!

  • sr4mjc

    The” Whip My Hair” video is really cute.

  • Trina

    Whip My Hair is like crack! I love that song!

    eta: I’m a huge supporter of breast cancer charities so I purchased the ME track, but I’m honestly not surprised its so low. I dont think shes really a strong seller anymore, I mean I know her last album which was amazing sold not that great.

  • Elliegrll

    eta: I’m a huge supporter of breast cancer charities so I purchased the ME track, but I’m honestly not surprised its so low. I dont think shes really a strong seller anymore, I mean I know her last album which was amazing sold not that great.

    It’s also a case of how are people supposed to know that this single exists, which is a problem that Melissa Etheridge has faced with her last couple of albums. Radio isn’t going to play her music, so it’s harder for her to reach a mass audience. This will probably be a problem for Crystal too.

  • blissful

    Taylor is going to have huge numbers. She has regular and sympathetic tabloid (John Mayer AND Jake Gyllenhaal) promo.

    I thought it was idiotic for her to release a new album track weekly prior to her last debut — but it actually makes it easier for people to complete their album.

  • standtotheright

    The” Whip My Hair” video is really cute.

    The mash-up with Sesame Street’s “I Love My Hair” segment is kind of adorable, actually.

    There was a huge fan club meet and greet for TS in NYC; I think some of it took place at the UN building. Is she a goodwill ambassador now? Considering this is her “vindictive” album, I’d enjoy the irony.

    As for other iTunes singles, yeah, it’s going to be really hard for anyone to get visibility on the charts between Swift and Glee.

  • Kirsten

    HDD is now reporting that some initial projections have Swift selling in the 800-900K range (based on early word from retail). They also quote the 1/2 of top 20 tracks being from Swift.

    HDD Rumour Mill

  • Hazehel

    Taylor Swift has 18 tracks on iTunes top 200 tracks — and 17 in the top 100. I do not remember seeing something like this before except for Glee and for the Glee tracks from a show there is no Glee album.

    Ah, Michael Jackson is already history, and forgotten. David Cook had all 4 in the Top 4 in iTunes the day after the finale, and I think probably something like 17 in the Top 100 (or 19? Can’t remember the exact number, someone probably knows). Most of the songs were deleted after a day or so and many still charted in Hot 100.

    ETA – Lee is now #61

  • koshka

    David Archuleta’s Falling Stars is listed under Cool New Music on All Access’ HAC panel.

    Wait.. WHAT!? Is he on another single? Did I miss something?

  • artemis

    Lee is moving up the Itunes chart:

    Top Songs: 61

    Top Pop Songs: 21

  • jpfan

    I really hope Taylor has a huge week. The music biz needs some good news. Ditto for SuBo although she’ll need some good promo to boost her sales this time around.

  • Studio57

    And speaking of radio- No one listens to it anymore except people that HAVE to in their cars.

    I listen to the radio in my car and I don’t have to. I like hearing new music and my-drive time DJs are hilarious.

    Aren’t you lucky? Most people complain about hearing the same songs over and over again and you have the one station in America that plays all new stuff! AND they have a funny morning crew? Congrats!

  • Indigobunting

    I really hope Taylor has a huge week. The music biz needs some good news.

    Me too. Even though I think she is horrid live; she has written some good songs, is a good role model (or better than many pop girls) and ITA, any good news for the music business is essential.

  • Studio57

    As much as I loathe Taylor Swift, her key to success is that SHE writes her own songs, so they have that unique quality to them. My daughter’s friends- ESPECIALLY the boys- love her ( 14-15 year olds).

    And if she keeps up the serial dating she will have endless material. Yesterday in People magazine (she’s on the cover) they had a few of the guys featured who have inspired her songs ( the only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Jonas, Lautner and Mayer.

  • Tess

    I really hope Taylor has a huge week. The music biz needs some good news. Ditto for SuBo although she’ll need some good promo to boost her sales this time around.

    Oh Taylor will have a great week (couple of months). Every Mom and Grandma will be buying this as a stocking stuffer for their middle schoolers…and the kids themselves are gaga (ironic) over the cute blond girl who many of them idolize. As far as SuBo….since she is doing a Christmas album I don’t think she will match the sales from last time…also she isn’t getting any positive press right now. So I think if she does a third of what she did last time it would be phenomenal.

    And for Taylor…this is album #2 coming off a pretty good teeny bopper album that sold her and itself really well. The question is (with the lackluster material on this album) will it sustain itself through the long haul once peeps become familiar with the mediocre material…and will the buzz be able to carry on into album number 3. That will be the test of time, especially if she keeps trying to sing live on all the national shows.

  • movin2thabeet

    I just saw that Kings of Leon’s Come Around Sundown has broken records in the UK with a #1 debut first-week sales of more than 183,000 units, marking the biggest first-week sales of the year. More than 49,000 downloads sold in the first week makes the biggest first-week digital sales total in the UK chart’s history. In addition of KOL’s great debut, I think part of this can be attributed to the success of UK’s tough piracy laws. We have a bill in our own Congress currently making the rounds. I hope we can get something passed here too.

  • sma11ie

    David Cook had all 4 in the Top 4 in iTunes the day after the finale, and I think probably something like 17 in the Top 100 (or 19? Can’t remember the exact number, someone probably knows). Most of the songs were deleted after a day or so and many still charted in Hot 100.

    I don’t remember the exact details of the iTunes charts after the S7 finale, but I according to Yahoo ChartWatch, David had 17 songs on the Digital Hot 200 chart, which corresponds fairly closely to the iTunes chart. I think those 17 songs were all the Idol songs he had for sale: there were 3 live tracks from the semi’s, plus one studio track each week from top 12 through top 3 (10 songs), plus TOML, plus live recordings of his three finale songs: The World I Know, Dream Big and I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For. Wiki also says he holds the record for the most number of debuts on the Digital Hot 100 (14). If Taylor’s 17 songs on iTunes top 100 stays steady for the week, she will for sure beat David’s record. MJ didn’t, I think because his songs were not debuts.

    I appreciate that Taylor has some amount of talent (though not in singing), does not dress slutty, or sing about getting drunk and hooking up… but her serial dating and TMI songs about relationships are not what I call role model material for young girls. JMO, but I don’t want my little girl (imaginary, but still) looking up to someone who appears to be a bit of a pyscho ex-girlfriend…

  • J9BT

    springboard:
    10/26/2010 at 11:29 am
    Itunes:
    #534. I Run for Life (Live) – Melissa Etheridge & Crystal Bowersox

    I am surprised that a charity single doesn’t raise more interest.

    I’m a fan of Crystal’s, so I visited ITunes to check this out, and listened to the preview. The preview clip chosen is all Melissa’s voice (no Crystal), doesn’t sound that great (maybe I’m not a Melissa fan?) and the lyrics are quite graphic (discusses cutting skin, scars, etc.) so I didn’t buy it. I’ve purchased many other charitable songs, and planned to buy this one, but had no interest after hearing the preview clip.

    Maybe I will change my mind, but that was my initial reaction to the song.

  • Trina

    Has anyone broke David’s Hot 100 record? Not digital but Hot 100? I figured if Michael Jackson didn’t do it it would be tough but I know Glee has been insane with digital tracks. I think Taylor probably could.

    My GOD! If Taylor sells 800k-900K her first week in this climate that’s unreal. There are big Top 40 artist who can’t even sell that much in several months.

  • J9BT

    And speaking of radio- No one listens to it anymore except people that HAVE to in their cars.

    Install an IPOD player! That’s what I did. I only occasionally listen to radio and mostly listen to my IPOD music. I can’t stand all of the commercials/talking on radio. :-)

  • sr4mjc

    I appreciate that Taylor has some amount of talent (though not in singing), does not dress slutty, or sing about getting drunk and hooking up… but her serial dating and TMI songs about relationships are not what I call role model material for young girls. JMO, but I don’t want my little girl (imaginary, but still) looking up to someone who appears to be a bit of a pyscho ex-girlfriend…

    Which songs are those? Because if I can get past the voice (unlikely) at least the subject matter for me as an adult is more interesting than fairytales.

    Most people complain about hearing the same songs over and over again and you have the one station in America that plays all new stuff! AND they have a funny morning crew? Congrats!

    Kirsten is in Canada right? I think I like their radio better. Except you can have Bieber and Drake back. Thanks!

  • Studio57

    J9BT- My car has a AUX jack- I DO listen to the ipod in the car all the time. You can also buy a cassette converter if you have a cassette player in your car but no iphone jack which is what I did before the new car. And there is also a converter that is powered by dead air on the radio. My point was I don’t really see why anyone would listen to radio when they can have any playlist they wanted at their fingertips, but I do understand that people like morning drive time dj’s. I just don’t think it is the norm anymore.YMMV.

    Kirsten is in Canada??: Well THAT expains it, lol. I love Down With Webster and Hedley :)

    Not to knock Cook or his fans but his record is alot like the Glee and Subo ones- when you are singing covers it just doesn’t have the same kind of impact that an artist like Swift or Elvis or the Beatles have- that’s IMHO only.

  • windmills

    Studio57: And if she keeps up the serial dating she will have endless material. Yesterday in People magazine (she’s on the cover) they had a few of the guys featured who have inspired her songs ( the only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Jonas, Lautner and Mayer.

    Taylor’s already working on her next album! Just yesterday she was revealed to be in a new showmance romance with Jake Gyllenhaal. I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that her album came out this week and he’s got a movie coming out in a few weeks ;)

    Actually being honest I don’t even get it. Taylor doesn’t need a fake relationship to help her sales. She’s got all the press in the world because she’s the heroine of the music industry right now, the media loves the TMI because it gives them more to write about, and her fans are totally behind her. She’d be killing it in sales no matter what. It’s funny because her single had totally stalled on country and wasn’t going to hit #1 but her label’s totally started pushing it hard so now it has a chance.

    I gave Taylor’s album an honest listen even though I don’t like her voice and I like 2 songs on it (Sparks Fly and Last Kiss). There’s a lot of catchy stuff but too much bad singing. Honestly the lyrics on most of the album are nothing special either. There’s some pretty phrases but they’re isolated and don’t go anywhere. So it’s basically a series of different ways of saying he broke her heart or she broke his or she loved him instead of developing any of the relationships with any depth. It got me wondering too how anybody could really have THAT meaningful a relationship with THAT many people in just 2 years. Maybe if they’ve got a teenager’s viewpoint of love but not an adult’s one.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    I’m listening to Taylor’s album right now. Some songs are really good. It’s my 23rd birthday today and song “Never Grow Up” seems quite appropriate.

  • sma11ie

    Has anyone broke David’s Hot 100 record? Not digital but Hot 100? I figured if Michael Jackson didn’t do it it would be tough but I know Glee has been insane with digital tracks. I think Taylor probably could.

    I checked wiki’s entry on the Hot 100 milestones, and it appears David’s specific record is “the most debuts in a single week”. That record (11) appears to be holding, still. Here’s some more relevant and interesting info from wiki, mentioning the Beatles, Swift, Glee cast.
    Additional Hot 100 achievements

    •For the week of April 11, 1964, the Beatles had fourteen singles on the Hot 100. The group held the number 1, 2, 4, 7, 9, 14, 38, 48, 50, 52, 61, 74, 78 and 81 slots. One week earlier, five Beatles singles had filled the entire top five, also a record.
    •For the week of June 7, 2008, American Idol season 7 winner David Cook set a record with the most debuts in a single week (11).
    •For the week of November 14, 2009, Taylor Swift had nine singles on the Hot 100, including six chart debuts. Both totals are the most ever by a female artist. Swift also holds the record of most top ten debuts on the Hot 100.
    •The Beatles had 31 charting Hot 100 singles in 1964, the record for any artist in one calendar year. Six of these were number one hits, while two other singles were blocked from the top slot by the Beatles themselves. Eighteen of the 31 singles reached the Top 40. Elvis Presley had 17 charting singles in 1956, the most for a solo act. Eleven of Presley’s 17 singles reached the Top 40, including four number ones. The cast of Glee combined for 25 charting singles in 2009, six of which made the top 40. The Fox television series has charted an additional 63 Hot 100 singles in 2010, sixteen of which have reached the Top 40. The cast’s 2009 version of Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin’” is the only top ten Glee single to date, peaking at #4.

    I think Taylor’s on track to beat David’s 11 on Hot 100, and his 14 on Digital Hot 100…

    Not to knock Cook or his fans but his record is alot like the Glee and Subo ones- when you are singing covers it just doesn’t have the same kind of impact that an artist like Swift or Elvis or the Beatles have- that’s IMHO only.

    Not a knock at all- it’s a totally legitimate point. Still, David’s accomplishment still surprises me because he won Idol in 2008 and it’s held for a few years :).

    Which songs are those? Because if I can get past the voice (unlikely) at least the subject matter for me as an adult is more interesting than fairytales.

    I’m too lazy to answer myself, but check out this article from ONTD. There are a bunch of articles like this, but this is one I read.
    http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/52231826.html

  • Studio57

    That’s exactly it windmills- it’s still the teenage mentality. I have facebook and alot of my kids’ friends ( I have three teens) have added me for some reason and Taylor Swift lyrics and concert pics are constantly filling up my feed. Both of my girls have had guys try to make a Taylor Swift song “their” song, lol. The teen girls have Bruno Mars, the teen boys- Taylor Swift.We might think their song lyrics are immature but to a teen they are Shakespeare :)

  • movin2thabeet

    Taylor’s success does nothing to help other musicians. I’m not going to stand up and applaud the fact that she’s helping the label to bring in the big bucks. That fact doesn’t spill over to other (much more worthy) aspiring artists. If anything, it rewards vacuous teen oriented tripe at the expense of more intelligent, creative material by artists who actually can sing well in public.

  • SpenserJ

    Aren’t you lucky? Most people complain about hearing the same songs over and over again and you have the one station in America that plays all new stuff! AND they have a funny morning crew? Congrats!

    LOL – I listen to the radio in the car all of the time too, even though I have a multitude of other options. I’m usually only in the car for short trips, so I’m not typically in danger of hearing the same song twice. (My morning DJ’s are hilarious as well :)).

  • blissful

    My middle schoolers love Taylor — catchy tunes and lyrics — and they know she can’t sing well (due to mommy raging at the TV) they like her songs. I’m wondering if she can grow and have new material to sing about — I can’t imagine all the serial dating and break-ups she’ll need for the next album.

    I’m surprised that Kings of Leon is not doing as well as predicted, but maybe the album will have legs. I thought Radioactive was a good single, but the rest of the it does not seem have the same crossover appeal.

  • sr4mjc

    http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/52231826.html

    That was amusing. I tried to read the snippits and listen to the itunes previews. I still can’t get passed her horrendous voice, but she kinda sounds like a mental case, lol. I loved the Alanis Morrisette ‘You Oughta Know’ FU to the guy back in her day, but that angst just isn’t coming through for me. And as far as John Mayer goes, she’s gonna call him out for her only being 19 and him being older? She’s an adult and could not have been blind about his reputation. Not gonna cry over that for her.

  • Niall

    Taylor Swift grates. I realize she has a huge fanbase but I think that can be attributed to teenage girls and early 20′s females who find Taylor’s “Dear Diary” like lyrics and bad poetry to be the greatest thing ever. Once those girls grow up and realize how annoying and whiny those sentiments are (and how every single song is pretty much just a variation on the same theme), Swift better have something else up her sleeve.

    For now though, I’d rather have teen girls admire her than Miley Cyrus.

  • Kirsten

    Aren’t you lucky? Most people complain about hearing the same songs over and over again and you have the one station in America that plays all new stuff! AND they have a funny morning crew? Congrats!

    I guess I am lucky then. First the mountains, then the ocean, then cheap meds and now radio stations that one can enjoy listening to. But nobody move here. There is currently 7 feet of snow and all the sled dogs are on strike (and don’t get me started on the ice bug epedemic that has been infesting the igloos).

    Move to where SpenserJ lives. They have good radio stations and non-unionized sled dogs.

    Except you can have Bieber and Drake back

    No, I’m sorry. They were marked “No Return”. You should have learned your lesson when you accepted Celine, Avril, Nickelback and Bryan Adams.

  • jpfan

    Taylor’s success does nothing to help other musicians.

    If it keeps her label in the black and encourages retailers to continue to sell CDs, I think she does help other musicians. Or at least she helps keep a dying industry alive abit longer.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Taylor Swift’s ‘Speak Now’ On Track for Massive Billboard 200 Debut

    Industry prognosticators are suggesting the Big Machine set may arrive with as much as 800,000 to 900,000 copies sold by week’s end on Oct. 31. And, there’s even a chance it could approach 1 million.

  • standtotheright

    Taylor’s success does nothing to help other musicians.

    She does have a celebrity playlist up on iTunes that her fans might check out, leading them to buy material by said musicians. She’ll be able to launch another successful tour that provides opportunities for openers to be exposed to big audiences. And as jpfan said, Big Machine will be able to invest in other artists on their roster.

    I’m no great Swift fan, but the idea that some artists’ massive success can come without positive spillover effects for the industry is ludicrous. Maybe one can make that case for SuBo, because it’s not replicable (and because she has no idea how to manage her own career, to say nothing of fostering others’). But young songwriters who have at least intermittently catchy tunes and lyrics can point to an industry model.

    And as far as John Mayer goes, she’s gonna call him out for her only being 19 and him being older? She’s an adult and could not have been blind about his reputation. Not gonna cry over that for her.

    Well, she was still 19, not 21. And I generally think the world needs a “John Mayer is a douchebag” PSA at least once every six months, so I’m fine with knowing that this song exists.

  • sr4mjc

    Move to where SpenserJ lives. They have good radio stations and non-unionized sled dogs.

    Haha.. SpenserJ and I disagree on our local station. Rarely do I find the same morning show as funny. ;)

    And I generally think the world needs a “John Mayer is a douchebag” PSA at least once every six months,

    True true. How she didn’t already know his before dating him, I have no idea.

  • Trina

    Wow who was the last artist to sell million in a week? I think Lil Wayne or Eminem?

    I’m no great Swift fan, but the idea that some artists’ massive success can come without positive spillover effects for the industry is ludicrous.

    Completely agree. I’d make a safe bet that all the other labels wish they had a cashcow like TS on their roster. I cant see how anyone producing numbers like that is bad for anyone.

  • SpenserJ

    Move to where SpenserJ lives. They have good radio stations and non-unionized sled dogs.

    No, no, no. It’s already way too crowded here. Did I mention the extensive summer heat, tropical storms and hurricane watches??

    Haha.. SpenserJ and I disagree on our local station. Rarely do I find the same morning show as funny.

    I think it’s because I have a completely inappropriate sense of humor :).

    If it keeps her label in the black and encourages retailers to continue to sell CDs, I think she does help other musicians. Or at least she helps keep a dying industry alive abit longer.

    Well yeah, there’s that. My 6 year old loves her (thanks tween nieces for getting THAT started early!). So, I too have purchased her stocking stuffer cd. I can’t begrudge the girl her success. She’s obviously worked hard for it. She’s so young and naive, I’m hoping as she matures and experiences life a little, her song-writing will mature as well. Clearly, she appeals to like-minded people on her level (and six year olds as well).

  • justic

    i attribute Taylor Swift big numbers to the kanye VMA debacle.
    the american public remembers and is buying out of compassion for her.
    just like Susan Boyle who made millions in the US out of people’s compassion to her “rags story”.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Eh no, Taylor Swift sold millions of albums and singles before Kanye VMA debacle. Her second album opened with 592K, I think.

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    Speak now is gonna MURDER everything else!!! That album is INCREDIBLEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • Elliegrll

    I think the Kanye situation gave Taylor a lot of mainstream exposure, but pop radio was already paying attention to her based on how well her songs were doing on country, album sales, and because her shows were drawing so many people.

  • mickeybordentwo

    What’s the news on adds?

  • jpfan

    HDD Final numbers: Top 3 Plus..

    TW artist / album label power index % change
    – 1 SUGARLAND MERCURY NASHVILLE 207,410 —
    INCREDIBLE MACHINE
    – 2 KINGS OF LEON RCA/RMG 187,333 —
    COME AROUND SUNDOWN
    – 3 ELTON JOHN & LEON RUSSEL DECCA 77,859 —
    UNION

    – 6 GLEE CAST COLUMBIA 48,048 —
    ROCKY HORROR GLEE SHOW
    35 44 FANTASIA J RECORDS/RMG 9,039 -16%
    BACK TO ME

  • artemis

    David Cook retweeted to his followers this afternoon about Sweet Serendipity being available today on Itunes and Amazon.DC is really a classy guy. I always love when Idols support each other.

    ETA Awww, Michael Sarver did the same thing-he always was a good guy.

  • Indigobunting

    Wow, I just came back from Target and Best Buy; looking for a Rascal Flatts album to gift. Couldn’t find it in either store. Both have massively reduced their space for CDs.

    Target had both an endcap and cash register display exclusively for Taylor, complete with Taylor Tshirts. Sugarland (#1 last week) had 2 slots in the country section; not even the Best Sellers Country section.

    I suppose this means better business for Amazon?? No wonder it is so difficult to sell albums these days. Although I blame the music downloader stealers as the #1 reason.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Most added songs of the week across all formats (only monitored):

    104 KE$HA We R Who We R Kemosabe/RCA/RMG 136
    101 RIHANNA What’s My Name? f/Drake Def Jam/IDJMG 133
    65 KATY PERRY Firework Capitol 141
    64 KENNY CHESNEY Somewhere With You BNA 71
    45 BRUNO MARS Grenade Elektra/Atlantic 74
    45 KERI HILSON Pretty Girl Rock Interscope 69
    44 CHRIS BROWN Yeah 3x Jive/JLG 49
    32 EMINEM No Love f/Lil’Wayne Shady/After/Interscope 116
    30 GRUPO BRYNDIS Doy La Vida Por Un Beso Capitol Latin 30
    30 MAROON 5 Give A Little More A&M/Octone/Interscope 107
    28 WILLOW Whip My Hair Roc Nation/Columbia 165
    26 LEE BRICE Beautiful Every Time Curb 28
    26 TRAIN Marry Me Columbia 76
    21 NELLY Long Gone Derrty/Universal Motown 21

    Idols:
    Fantasia – 18 monitored adds for I’m Doin’ Me
    Daughtry – 15 monitored adds for September
    Lee DeWyze – 9 monitored adds (no new adds today)
    Kris Allen – 4 monitored adds (no new adds today)
    Carrie Underwood – 3 monitored adds for Undo It
    Hedley – 2
    Chris Sligh – 1
    Jason Castro – 1

  • abbysee

    i attribute Taylor Swift big numbers to the kanye VMA debacle.

    But it’s not based on anything but people saying that, certainly not based on facts or numbers. Certainly the debacle heightened people’s awareness of her, but I don’t think the possibility that she might sell a crap load of cds more than a year after the fact is a direct result of Kanye’s stunt.

  • IndyMuse

    This is a bit of an older topic on the thread, but the things I find amazing about Cook’s records are:

    1. All but three of the 17 songs had been selling for weeks, some for a lot of weeks, with sales numbers we’ll never know. Billie Jean had been out for a few months at that point, and it likely was his biggest seller. Hello was even older. I still struggle that no one will release his sales numbers from during the competition. I have a feeling there are some other records in there.

    2. None were available for sale after the first 3 days except for TOML, and they’ve never been for sale again.

    It is astonishing that one of his two records still stands, given those two facts.

  • Trina

    So true IndyMuse. And back then we had access to Itunes popularity bars during the show and IIRC Billie Jean and Always Be My Baby were really killing it. I would so love to see those numbers!

  • Hazehel

    2. None were available for sale after the first 3 days except for TOML, and they’ve never been for sale again.

    Did I misremember or weren’t most of the songs removed from iTunes on the Saturday after the finale? That would make it just 2 days. A few of the other songs apart from TOML were still available after that I think – the 3 songs performed on the finale – Dream Big, The World I Know and I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For. They might have been removed a week or two later I think.

    Lee is now at #51.

  • sue

    My GOD! If Taylor sells 800k-900K her first week in this climate that’s unreal.

    OMG!! All I can say is can Archie’s people get some advice from the Swift people, geeeezzzzzz….Hey I bet Archie can belt out a country tune if they wanted him too. A duet! lol…That girl is a mega money maker!!

  • AmericanIdol8

    I think Taylor is great and all but live she can’t carry a tune. That is only my opinion, well actually my niece’s. She is a very gifted songwriter. Seems like a great person. The reason I said she can’t carry a tune live is I took my 15 year old niece to a concert of Taylor’s and my niece is a huge fan. She is the one who thinks Taylor sucks live. Her words not mine. I don’t really listen to Taylor but my niece was so disappointed it was heartbreaking. Could Taylor had a bad day or does anyone else who has listen to her live agree? My niece now loves Danny Gokey. Maybe she is just a teenage girl who changes her mind one minute from the next……

  • lili_anne7

    Could Taylor had a bad day or does anyone else who has listen to her live agree? My niece now loves Danny Gokey. Maybe she is just a teenage girl who changes her mind one minute from the next……

    Nope, your niece is right, Taylor can’t sing live. Everyone knows that. She sounds good in the studio, but live, her voice is flat and pitchy. I don’t even find her songwriting that spectacular, but I guess teen/tween girls are able to relate to her, and they buy her albums, that’s why she’s a big deal.

  • Jae

    She is a very gifted songwriter.

    This is certainly what makes her. I didn’t appreciate any TS songs until Love Story and You Belong with Me. As a girl I totally identified with both these songs, bought into the fantasy. And I am an adult. I can imagine how a 12-15 year old would feel. I think singing sincerely about themes that almost everyone identifies with is what helps to sale huge. Even if you listen to Eminems new stuff ( he sold >700k his first week) hos words and feeling are relateable and sincere(of course not in the way TS is of course nor t the same demographic). And look at Bruno Mar’s single The Way You Are, what girl doesn’t want her guy to say words like that to her, and how often do you want to bet that song has been dedicated to a girlfriend or a wife? Being able to actually since is only part of the majic.

  • Dlynne

    Taylor Swift has 18 tracks on iTunes top 200 tracks — and 17 in the top 100. I do not remember seeing something like this before except for Glee and for the Glee tracks from a show there is no Glee album.

    Is this a fan action to buy singles or is it just people only want a few tracks????

    I don’t think it’s a normal sales pattern for Taylor. I’ve been hearing that the album is not as good as the last one. I personally don’t think it is as good either. It looks to me like a lot of people were picking and choosing instead of buying the entire album without a full listen. I wish I had.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    And now Ke$ha’s new single is #1 on iTunes. LOL.

    Taylor Swift is certainly a gifted songwriter. Sadly, her voice is very weak. She sounds flat even on her recordings.

  • wordnerdarchie

    Did I misremember or weren’t most of the songs removed from iTunes on the Saturday after the finale? That would make it just 2 days.

    I thought all of the songs from Season 7 were taken down the day of the finale (results show), at midnight. The only ones available for sale after that was TOML, and MAYBE the ones from the top 2 night (finals), but my memory could be faulty. That would make 3 days of sales that week for songs like Billie Jean, Hello, etc. (Monday – Wednesday) I don’t remember how long the songs like TWIK, Dream Big, & the U2 song was up, since I was on vacation & couldn’t download them anyway. I’m sure it’s in the archives. But I still remember in my head, Ryan saying “they’ll all disappear after the show at Midnight”. Or am I wrong?

    ETA: But when I returned home from vacay a week after that Sat. they were all gone except TOML.

  • Allison

    Studio57:
    10/26/2010 at 10:23 am

    Regarding ipods- there are so many other ways to get your music now besidea the ipod. Phones are so sophisticated right now just about everyone I know personally in their 20’s have mp3s on their phones and alot of kids just listen to it from their computers- hell I listen to music on my computer more than the ipod now. Case in point- Lady Gaga’s music videos just hit the BILLION mark. Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? ;)

    And speaking of radio- No one listens to it anymore except people that HAVE to in their cars.

    Well that ties into why ipod sales are down. I listen to music on my computer the most. I still like radio, though, and of course, listen to it in my car, but also will put on the stereo when I am in rooms of my house, cleaning or doing things, out of reach of computer speakers.
    I’m tempted to buy Taylor’s album. I saw the hard copy on Amazon for $8 yesterday.

  • hcpoirot

    Even if one day Taylor albums didnot sell anymore, she can always write songs for other artists cause she can write catchy songs that appeal to tween and teens.

  • sma11ie

    It is astonishing that one of his two records still stands, given those two facts

    This thread is dead, but catching up… I believe these two records both remain if you add the word debut to them. Most number of Hot 100 debuts by a solo artist (11), and most number of Hot Digital 100 debuts by a solo artist (14)… Michael Jackson’s songs were not debuts. Still, both of these records, I’m guessing are likely to be broken by Taylor next week. Still, it’s lasted over 2 years, which is cool.