Haley Reinhart Will Sing an Original Song on Finale (Mom & Dad Continue to Spill!)

Haley Reinhart’s parents continue to be a font of information! They revealed in a performance at Wheeling High School last night that:

  • Haley will get a single and if that works out, she will get an album
  • The new single likely to be performed on the finale
  • She rejected two songs before settling on the single

Video: Himmm2

Reporting: Kirsten

I wonder if UMG will be producing singles for many of the Top 13 to test the waters?

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  • girlygirl

    This isn’t fair to Scotty and Lauren unless they are going to be singing their singles on the finale as well. And I say this as someone who loves Haley and am indifferent to Scotty and Lauren…

  • Cari

    @girlygirl… Don’t the winner/runner up always perform their “winners single” (which is their first single) on the finale?

  • BrandoC15

    Haley is getting soo much buzz, as she should! She ran away with the competition, but still somehow got 3rd? She knows what she wants, consideting she’s turned down two other songs. She knows what song will make her stand out, and I expect her performance on Wednesday to steal the show. I have faith in Jimny!

  • blmetsfan

    Well, it looks like whoever sells the most singles (Pia, Haley, etc) will get that eventual record deal. They really are stripping all creative control away from these kids.

  • dinaa68

    It isn’t fair to any of the contestants. I don’t understand.

  • Kirsten

    This isn’t fair to Scotty and Lauren unless they are going to be singing their singles on the finale as well.

    I am a huge fan of Haley’s as well, but I agree. You just can’t hit the market with that many new singles from one source and expect them to succeed.

    I can just see the mess the numbers thread is going to be if this diluted market results in the two finalists not selling enough singles. Before, the finalists had the only new Idol singles on offer for the week.

    At this point, what is the point of making the finals? Especially for the runner-up? I guess they still get a Ford. Woo?

  • AddictedToMars

    This does sound like a mess. This is unfair to the final 2 and the other contestants. I also don’t think it is right for her parents to reveal this info and I don’t think Nigel or even Jimmy wanted this out yet but her parents go their own way.

  • satchvai

    There is a distinction this year between Interscope and American Idol that hasn’t been there in the past so not surprised Jimmy would have the opportunity to showcase Haley at all.

  • yaddabing

    My problem, is that I’m seeing and hearing way too much from her parents.

  • Ratna12

    I don’t know if Nigel approved the leak or not.

    If it is a real one, hopefully Haley will NOT say anything to her parents or anybody about any real performance secret on the finale.

    I actually like to be surprised, for example, Kris singing with Queen on the finale. I haven’t found this site at the time, so I don’t know if it was leaked or not.

  • Kirsten

    @girlygirl… Don’t the winner/runner up always perform their “winners single” (which is their first single) on the finale?

    Only the winner does (though in Season 1, Kelly/Justin both sang one of the two coronation songs before the confetti flew and then Kelly sang she didn’t sing after the confetti flew and they only released Kelly’s versions of the songs).

    The runner up will generally perform their first single only on performance night (and, in the case of Archie, he didn’t even do that. Each of the David’s sang a reject from the coronation song pile on performance night and then Cookie released the real coronation song the next day. You could buy Archie’s reject song for a week on iTunes though).

  • randomjoe

    Haley will get a single and if that works out, she will get an album

    The actual quote, I think I got it mostly right is:

    So, right now I like to make an announcement that she’s at this moment recording her first single, right now. We’ll see what happens. They’ll just testing it out and see what happens they may release it, they might not, but she’s recording.

    All I get from this is that they recorded a single and they may or may not release it. Nothing about EP/Album news (yet).

    To people who think this is unfair to the others, at some point, it stops being “Idol” the competition and at some point people in the music business. The business of idolettes competing post-idol is fan generated and fairness and equitiable treatment need not apply. Why not use this platform to launch? It makes perfect sense for Interscope.

    I’ll definitely say that the Reinharts are not Internet savvy whatsoever. I think they had no clue this or the previous would leak.

    Ironically, they launch into a Kenny Rodgers song after the news.

  • BrandoC15

    In the clip, her parents said that they (Interscope?) were going to test it and then decide whether or not to release it

  • girlygirl

    Cari

    No, the coronation songs are not considered their first singles.

    And only the winner usually gets the song officially released to radio. Even then, in most cases it doesn’t get much radio play unless it sells really well and/or catches on with listeners.

  • Kirsten

    I don’t know if Nigel approved the leak or not.

    I’m thinking “not”. Those two do their own thing.

    I’ll definitely say that the Reinharts are not Internet savvy whatsoever. I think they had no clue this or the previous would leak.

    Bananas! I’ll give them a pass on the first week, but after that happened, they had to have known what would happen this time.

  • CCOREY2034

    I love that Haley is sticking her ground and not being pushed around. She had the five best performances ala Benny and Jets, Rolling in Deep, House of Rising Sun, I who have Nothing and Led Zeppelin. Her mom even said shes a total spitifire. Do u think Haley is a bitch for being so picky? IMO the girl is not being pushed around. I love her. She is so real, tough, fearless. Is this the toughest minded girl you have seen come out of Idol? She is so fearless in everything. Her parents did a great job in teaching her to be tough tough. I love Haleys parents as well. They seem so cool.

  • phil25

    Her mom says they’re going to probably play the single on Wednesday.

    This begs the question…Why probably? and who’s they?

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    I think Scotty and Lauren will sing their singles on Tuesday night, for their third song. I think this season won’t have a real coronation single – they will give real singles to both finalists and let them promote the songs after the show on media tour.

    So I guess, Haley will sing her single on Wednesday. Well, Idol and UMG promised to release original songs sooner than it used to be.

  • Nh29

    Oh, so Haley stays with the idol machine? guess they don’t hate her that much after all. Let’s hope it won’t be a crappy song.

  • http://mattgiraudfans.net 3DoorsDownFan

    Why isn’t it fair? Haley won’t even be in the same genre of music as Scotty or Lauren and besides what do her sales have to do with their’s? Supposedly Scotty and Lauren are the most popular so why should they be threatened by Haley’s sales? If they can’t sell their music it’s not Haley’s fault. Also Scotty is guarenteed a record deal and most likely Lauren too. Whereas Haley has to fight tooth and nail to get one.

    I am conflicted by how I feel about this. I am so nervous for Haley because it sounds like if it doesn’t sell she is shit out of luck but then I am just grateful that she even gets a chance! I for one will be buying it! I’m assuming it will go up on itunes after the finale? I can’t wait to hear it!

  • paperboating

    This isn’t fair to Scotty and Lauren unless they are going to be singing their singles on the finale as well.

    I agree. As much as I love Haley, it would be unfair to Scotty and Lauren if she performed her new single on the finale and they did not. Only because, correct me if I am wrong, doesn’t the finale receive the higher viewership then the performance show? Some viewers only tune in to see the results. AI should focus on the top two than trying to please other fans.

    That said, I am very curious and excited to see what direction/sound Haley’s single will be. Though, I would rather have it released/shown after the finale.

  • BrandoC15

    Yeah, even Haley says she isnt tech savvy. Wonder who she learned that from? Lol, I doubt AGAIN that her parents knew they were being videotaped. I mean, this was at her high school for a charity event. Not a real attention-grabber for the media!!

  • randomjoe

    Bananas! I’ll give them a pass on the first week, but after that happened, they had to have known what would happen this time.

    I’m not sure the news of the previous leak got back to Haley or them. Or even that TPTB cared. While the leak was big on the blogs, etc., I don’t think it got much mainstream play.

  • halo9125

    Bottom line is this: we’ve all grown to love (or not love as the case may be) some of these Idols singing songs that have, for the most part, stood the test of time (or at least have some buzz about them- Rolling in the Deep, for example). You might love Haley – but if the original song is a bomb, she’s going to bomb. My dislike of Haley is probably famous on this site, lol, so I’ll say the same thing about Pia- I love her to pieces, but if she records a lousy single, what hope does she have to get a contract?

    The problem is- I don’t see many great songwriters out there anymore. JMO.

  • bean99

    Don’t the parents have to sign a contract also? I have no issue with her getting a single but think it shouldn’t (and won’t likely) be performed on the finale. I have no idea how popular a Haley single (or Pia or any of the others) but it shouldn’t take precedent over the f2.

  • chearts77

    This isn’t fair to Scotty and Lauren unless they are going to be singing their singles on the finale as well.

    ITA!!!

  • CCOREY2034

    Lauren and Scotty have the country votes and sales. They didn’t have to fight like crazy like our BADASS has. This whole time on Idol she didn’t get much love from producers, judges or anything. America FELL IN LOVE with the tough as nails girl from chicago. I cannot wait to hear the single. I cannot wait for the finale now on Wednesday just to see the performance. I will buy anything Haley including album or tickets to see her. IMO this girl is a gem and her voice is crazy amazing. What I love is she stands her ground, she doesn’t even look intimidated by Jimmy. No one intimidates our girl, she is fearless.

  • MayMirabella

    Jimmy and Interscope represent a lot of very successful artists.
    Many are unique: GaGa, Black Eyed Peas , and so on. So I am thinking Haley and some of them this year would love to stay with him.

  • MrDuffin

    I think the leak was approved. I for one was not going to watch the the finale but now I will. I expect Nigel wants Haley fans to watch and this help accomplish that. Lauren and Scotty have not grown a bit and are borrrriiiiing!

  • AddictedToMars

    Maybe Haley, Scotty, Lauren and Pia will be singing their potiental first singles on Wednesday but I would assume that one of the 3 songs Lauren and Scotty will sing are their original songs on Tuesday’s performance show or at least I hope so. It would NOT be right for Haley to be the only contestant to debut hers on Wednesday.

    And her parents really should be quiet. If TPTB don’t want this out it could hurt Haley as she is still currently on the contract. I still don’t think they wanted this info getting leaked by her parents. Maybe from an media outlet to drum up buzz for the finale but not from her parents.

  • HR

    I really think her parents need to start being quiet.

  • CCOREY2034

    The only Idol original song that was a big hit was Time of My Life by David Cook. IMO that was the best moment and I remember Cookie singing TOML and going OMG I like this idol song. Of any of the original Idol coronation songs, which one was the best? IMO David Cook wins hands down with TOML and it went platinum. The worst was the horrid was Kara Dioguardi song No Boundaries, OMG was that bad.

  • chicksineggz

    My problem, is that I’m seeing and hearing way too much from her parents.

    Lol, seriously. I also don’t know whether I should actually believe what they say.

    I’m not going to talk about fairness. If the finale is entertaining, then it’s all good. lol

  • girlygirl

    I really am starting to think that UMG is going to simply release a bunch of singles all at once with the idea of simply trying to make a quick buck of these kids, and hope that 1 or 2 of them will actually be a hit. But if they flood the market with Idol singles, that won’t do any of the contestants any good, because radio stations certainly aren’t going to start spinning five or six singles from S10 Idols at the same time.

  • weareallinnocent

    I am a huge fan of Haley’s as well, but I agree. You just can’t hit the market with that many new singles from one source and expect them to succeed.

    Typically I would agree with you and others on this, but Haley (and others allegedly getting singles quickly) come nowhere close to entering the same market as Lauren and Scotty. Nowhere close.

    And, we appear to be in a totally new Idol era with Interscope and launching the unknowns from the Idol stage. I guess with Nigel’s announcement that Haley received over 25 million votes last week, we can assume they are in a “strike while the iron is hot” mode. Who can blame them in this market? I think it’s smart.

    What’s not smart, to me, is mom and pops leaking stuff. This may come back to bite Haley, particularly if TPTB aren’t pleased. I hope not, but I could totally see them being vindictive — I think that sort of thing has happened in the past, hasn’t it? Anyway…

    I’m looking forward to hearing more from Haley, so that probably colors my view of this development. :-)

  • aislinn

    Just because those of us who hang out in blogs are hyperaware of everything said on the internet, it doesn’t mean that everyone out there is. Haley’s parents were talking to the audience in front of them, not to the internet. And even if they were, so what? We learned from Ellen that Casey would be performing with Jack Black this week – stuff gets leaked about the show, it’s not uncommon.

    I really don’t get the concern over Haley singing an original song this week. It’s not like she is going to be trying for the same market as either of the finalists – her style is quite different from Scotty and Lauren’s, who will be competing for the same market against each other once they’re out of the Idol bubble. It’s one of the many things that frustrates me about this game show – people are more concerned about the game, and less concerned about the opportunity for us all to discover new talent and support it if warranted. Haley clearly has a fanbase, and if she and her fanbase, and her potential producers, benefit from this platform, that doesn’t take a thing away from the other contestants. This isn’t win/lose, it’s win/win, and I see nothing unfair about it.

  • randomjoe

    Post-Idol (after Tuesday). Different markets. No direct competition. Don’t see any fairness issues even if that were a factor.

    I thought that they made it fairly clear that they were working to develop folks other than the winner/runnerup, so they really should use the finale results show to do this. That said, the “probably” may mean they are still thinking about this issue.

  • satchvai

    I think the most excited one will be Lauren, the girl is a huge Haley fan:)

  • webster

    It isn’t fair to any of the contestants. I don’t understand.

    I, too, don’t understand. But of the things being suggested, I don’t agree that it is unfair. Her parents seem to say she is recording a single, that may be released and that may be “played” on Wednesday. The headline says she is performing an original on Wednesday.

    In any case, by Wednesday, the competition is over, so strictly speaking, it’s all about a good tv show and there’s no “fairness” issue with any real bite. As long as the winner and other contestants get what’s contractually offered, they have no real complaint about any thing that happens outside of that.

    That said, I’m willing to bet that at least Scotty and Lauren have just as much say in which songs they get to sing on Wednesday as Haley has. If she is being allowed to perform an original, I doubt that they are refusing that choice to Scotty and Lauren, provided their writing (if any) passed some minimum quality standard.

    I can’t say about the glut of singles releases, since I don’t understand that part of it much. Every week they’ve been releasing show related studio recordings in bulk. Maybe they see it more like that now – it’s show fans buying this music to a large degree, so it doesn’t matter if you release 10 at once. Their show fans will buy, and then time will tell if any of the releases get anywhere beyond those initial fans.

  • Inconnu

    The way I assume it will turn out is this:
    Scotty and Lauren will release singles Tuesday night – as one of their 3 songs.
    Wednesday night, other contestants (Haley, Pia, and others???) will release singles as well.

    It makes sense to use the Finale to release singles from others. I’m not sure what’s unfair about this. Scotty and Lauren will surely get Record deals. Others may or may not, depending if their singles work.

    I suspect also that they will sing them during the tour as well.

  • ross

    Post-Idol (after Tuesday). Different markets. No direct competition. Don’t see any fairness issues even if that were a factor.

    If they’re debuting singles on the performance night and the finale, they’re all competing for the viewers of the show. There’s surely going to be a lot of overlap. Viewers of the show are not going to distinguish between markets all that much at this early point – even post-Tuesday. They’re just going to go to itunes and buy the music if they like it.

    It makes sense to use the Finale to release singles from others. I’m not sure what’s unfair about this. Scotty and Lauren will surely get Record deals. Others may or may not, depending if their singles work.

    What’s obviously unfair is that the winner doesn’t get the winner’s advantage of releasing a song without a lot of other people on the show competing with him or her. Sales are bound to be split, vs. sole and total attention given to the winner’s song.

  • girlygirl

    The first wave of sales for everyone coming off Idol come from the same people — the Idol viewers. So to say there’s no competition once the show is over is a little silly, in my opinion. Also, Haley could very well be competing for radio play with Lauren, depending on what direction UMG goes with the latter. She’s definitely competing with Pia for radio play. And if Stefano gets a single, there’s another one who will be in the same format. Depending on how many of the finalists are getting singles, there could be 6 or 7 of them trying to get Pop/Hot AC radio play at the same time. Scotty (& Lauren if she goes country) will face less competition for radio play than the other S10 contestants.

    But if all these singles get released at more or less the same time, UMG isn’t going to be able to push them all to radio. They will likely pick 1-3, and the rest will be left pretty much on their own.

  • randomjoe

    Also, remember, it’s fairly risky to release a new song single this way. If it bombs, … Not everyone will want to strike so quickly.

    Doing covers or other forced dreck is always safer.

  • Barb132

    While it’s a great opportunity for Haley if this happens, it really sort of messes with the show’s premise. I’ve only agreed with maybe half the winners, but the winner should get something extra that night — and that is to be the only one to perform an original song that’s going to be on iTunes right after.

    If other Idol contestants have original singles ready, Ryan can announce they will be available on iTunes and encourage their fans to go buy them.

    Separately, my hope is that the winner this year sings a real single and not the craptastic coronation songs of years past (only Kelly & Cook had good ones IMO).

  • tomr

    It doesn’t matter. Contestants who finish below 2nd just aren’t VERY successful 3 years after their season, Even the top two struggle three years after theirs. Haley will be a trivia question on Millionaire in 2015. Let her have her time when she can. The same goes for the rest. Hopefully, they will all invest wisely because where their careers will be in 3-5 years may not be enough for them to retire on when they get to be 65.

  • blmetsfan

    Are they going to ship these songs to radio too? I mean, sure, they’ll all do well initially on itunes, but if they want them to have any kind of sustained career, they’ve got to get the general public involved. I want to see add-dates!

  • tomr

    Releasing a bunch of singles is like playing darts. TPTB just are praying that one hits the bullseye.

  • CRB

    The music industry, as a whole, is a steaming pile of crap. One can only hope that this song is quality. I hope Haley gets a deal but the money has to be behind (read: payola) anything that gets significant spins and the Idol pot seems to shrink, in that regard, every single year. I cannot see Interscope breaking the bank and attempting to turn the tide.

    To the notion that it is somehow “unfair”, I’d just say that many top three finishers would have loved to receive a fraction of the support that Daughtry got for It’s Not Over in those crucial months following the Idol’s Live Tour. Nothing is “fair” and the successes of American Idol and the record industry are hardly predicted on fairness.

  • Pam

    IMO I don’t think there really isn’t anything wrong with Haley getting this opportunity. My problem is with her parents who have loose lips and won’t shut up. I hope this doesn’t hurt Haley but it could the more they continue to talk.

    ETA:

    Releasing a bunch of singles is like playing darts. TPTB just are praying that one hits the bullseye.

    Yes, basically throwing it to the wall and see if it sticks.

  • Kirsten

    Post-Idol (after Tuesday). Different markets. No direct competition. Don’t see any fairness issues even if that were a factor.

    That’s how it worked out. I seriously doubt the would have changed their plan if Haley made the finale.

    It could easily have been Pia releasing a single to compete with finalist Haley and country teen bootee competing with country teen. And that could still happen next year.

    I just think there needs to be a reward for making it to the end. Every year they erode the value of that and then Ken b!tches that the contestants don’t try hard enough to win. Why should they? They are better off highlighting who they are. Just treat it like an open mic night to show off what you do best.

    On the headline thread, people are complaining that there are no moments this year especially from the final two. I say blame stuff like this here. Why take the risk of going for the moment? You don’t need to win. Why take any risks at all. Stay in your lane and use the free advertising platform.

  • Inconnu

    What’s obviously unfair is that the winner doesn’t get the winner’s advantage o releasing a song without a lot of other people on the show competing with him or her. Sales are bound to be split with less attention given to te one winner’s song only.

    But the winner has already a record deal.

  • Jon

    This is a new Era of Idol. We got a new label, new producers, and thanks to twitter they can keep the fans they gained from the show easier. I’m hoping this will help Haley and become a success story after the show. No matter what, i’m supporting Haley. I’m rooting for her all the way. This news made my day since i really badly wanted her to get to the finale to hear a potential first single. Now that’s she’ll perform it in the finale, I’m glad. She was robbed for Top 2.

  • CindyM

    CCOREY2034 says:
    05/22/2011 at 2:33 pm

    The only Idol original song that was a big hit was Time of My Life by David Cook. IMO that was the best moment and I remember Cookie singing TOML and going OMG I like this idol song. Of any of the original Idol coronation songs, which one was the best? IMO David Cook wins hands down with TOML and it went platinum. The worst was the horrid was Kara Dioguardi song No Boundaries, OMG was that bad.

    I think Kelly’s “A Moment Like This” was better than Cook’s, but I liked his too. I think Kelly’s sold well also.

  • jack5791

    I don’t understand why this isn’t fair to Scotty/Lauren. They are guaranteed singles and get to sing them before the others. If anything, this is incredibly smart for Idol. All the contestants eventually do their own thing anyway, and it is better for them to get music out fast so people can catch on quick. If they like it, they are more likely to to follow them longer. It’s not smart for contestants to wait years before putting out anything, because nobody remembers them.

    This doesn’t take away anything from the competition. There is still the distinction of being the American Idol and being in the category with other superstars like Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, and all the other winners. Not to mention, the higher you place, the more money you make on tour so there’s still benefits to making it far.

    I think this is a great idea for the show and will make for a very interesting finale!

  • TwigLA

    I watch the show and I buy music. Amazing but true … I have more than one singer or band in my extensive collection of music.

    I think it’s really smart of Interscope to produce singles from the various Top contestants this year and get them out as soon as possible. People are going to make mp3s of whatever they sing on the Finale, so they might as well make professional recordings and offer them on iTunes, Amazon, and wherever else they sell digital downloads.

  • Miss Blue

    But the winner has already a record deal.

    Plus, the winner and runner-up this year will both be country. Not the genre Haley will be marketing to.

    Further, I am perfectly capable of buying more than one single or album. I would expect most record-buyers own more than one also.

  • iluvai

    I don’t see a problem with this at all. Good for Haley and the show. They keep changing everything up this season and it makes it more interesting.

  • Niall

    I don’t think it’s unfair, it’s simply the way Interscope wants to do things. I’ve been saying for awhile that the winner and runner up will get the albums, while a few select others get singles or EPs to test the waters. If Pia or Haley or James hit it big with a single, either via airplay or iTunes sales, Iovine will green light an EP or album. UMG wants to make money off their AI alliance and if they think they can make money off various 3rd-12th place finishers, then so be it. It’s show business y’all, not show friendship.

  • bananafish

    To download a song costs $1.29 I don’t think it would be a big issue for most people to decide on whom to spend their $1.29 If I like Haley’s & Lauren’s singles it will cost me less than the price of a bag of chips to buy both.

  • Kirsten

    Not to mention, the higher you place, the more money you make on tour so there’s still benefits

    According to the contract that leaked, that is no longer true either. The each get $1K per show regardless of whether they are first or eleventh. No wonder Paul was delighted to go out eighth. He has a month to relax. He might get to sing his single on the Idol finale. And he makes the same amount of money on the tour as the winner.

  • Miss Blue

    I am a huge fan of Haley’s as well, but I agree. You just can’t hit the market with that many new singles from one source and expect them to succeed.

    I can just see the mess the numbers thread is going to be if this diluted market results in the two finalists not selling enough singles. Before, the finalists had the only new Idol singles on offer for the week.

    How does this even make sense? Every week during the course of the show there are whatever number of singles on available on Itunes.

    Further, I don’t understand how “coming from one source” makes any difference at all. I don’t buy a single from ITunes because it came from AI – I buy it because I like the song or contestant. If Scott was the only human to release music from now until the end of time, I guess I would be content with what I already own. Because there is no way in hell I would every buy something from him. On the other hand, AI released 5000 singles on one day, along with the other hundreds of singles released by other artists, I would still buy Haley’s because I like her. And if I liked Haley and Casey and Paul and they all released a single on the same day, which they have done, I would buy all of them if I liked the songs.

    I don’t see a problem with this. Every song ever released by an Idol contestant has faced competition from other artists. What difference does it make if that artist happens to be from Idol?

  • Ringo

    This does sound like a mess. This is unfair to the final 2 and the other contestants. I also don’t think it is right for her parents to reveal this info and I don’t think Nigel or even Jimmy wanted this out yet but her parents go their own way.

    I have no doubt that Nigel approves this type of thing because it creates buzz for the finale on Wednesday and gets viewers. He has deniability with the McC/Suddeth fans and can claim that he did not try to steal their thunder.
    It sounds like Jimmy is trying something new: striking while the iron is hot. This is the best time to sell a song to Haley fans and the best time to get her career started — while people remember her. Anyone remember Jordis Unga?
    Does it compete with McC/Suddeth? Not really because their genres are so different. I would buy the H-Bomb song, not the country stuff, regardless. Am I in the minority here?
    Is it fair? I have read alot about how these country kids are worthy not for their perfromances but for their potential down the road. Years from now we will all agree, I guess, that Lauren is a great singer than Haley, but not yet (or so say her fans). Haley is realizing her potential now, so let’s hear her single.

  • ri

    i am very curious to see how Haley’s career goes because just like i was confused about whether or not Idol was bussing her, i am confused about how many fans she actually has. it is hard to tell from this blog because people here seem to love her. but i know a ton of people who are addicted to Idol who couldn’t stand her for one reason or other. her attitude didn’t bother me but i never thought she was very good. never understood the praise regarding her performances. so i guess i’ll have to wait to see if she really is as popular as she seemed to be on this blog….

  • Kirsten

    To download a song costs $1.29 I don’t think it would be a big issue for most people to decide on whom to spend their $1.29 If I like Haley’s & Lauren’s singles it will cost me less than the price of a bag of chips to buy both.

    A) This is Idol. There will be a lot of people who will not download Lauren’s single to prove to the universe that Haley should have won. They might have purchased Lauren’s if there was no new music to buy from Haley that week.

    B) Bags of chips are expensive where you live

  • mada23

    umm.. why problem? This is wonderful news! I’m guessing this Finale will be very different and they’re planning on showcasing the top 3, and possibly the rest too. Congrats! Very interested to hear her single!!

  • sparkledheartsss

    I remember reading that the final two pick the song they want to release as their single. I don’t think there is a coronation song that’s the same for both of them like there was for Kris/Adam etc. I think they are doing the same thing they did last year. The winner/runner up would be treated differently anway.

  • jack5791

    According to the contract that leaked, that is no longer true either. The each get $1K per show regardless of whether they are first or eleventh. No wonder Paul was delighted to go out eighth. He has a month to relax. He might get to sing his single on the Idol finale. And he makes the same amount of money on the tour as the winner.

    Well, that hasn’t been true for 9 seasons now so I’m taking that TMZ article with a grain of salt. That simply doesn’t make sense the winner, who is going to sing more songs and going to probably have to work a little harder with extra press, will not make anymore than lower placing finalists.

  • Pixie Baker

    All the comments here have some validity……I just think the producers know what they are doing. Maybe they are trying out the water before they sign. Sounds smart to me…..and as someone said, the two finalists get a contract. Frankly, I see this as a win, win.

  • ri

    the real reason this makes me mad is because David Archuleta got jipped. not only did they have to humiliate him by telling him on national television that Cook got 12 million more votes than he did, they didn’t even give him a coronation song. he was such a sweet little guy. he didn’t deserve that treatment. :(

  • car3278sweet

    I just think there needs to be a reward for making it to the end. Every year they erode the value of that and then Ken b!tches that the contestants don’t try hard enough to win. Why should they? They are better off highlighting who they are. Just treat it like an open mic night to show off what you do best.

    This show is now a showcase for a dozen or so singers, all in different genres, all told to “stay in their lane” because Jimmy wants a product, not an artist. Even before UMG took over, I got this vibe from several of the more seasoned contestants. Especially as the winners for the last few years have been saddled with some baggage and expectations that were becoming increasingly unrealistic for no other reason than changes in the music industry.

    No wonder Paul was delighted to go out eighth. He has a month to relax. He might get to sing his single on the Idol finale. And he makes the same amount of money on the tour as the winner.

    Yep. I commented on another thread that Paul was one of these seasoned peeps who looked at the game, figured it out and exited stage left with a sigh of relief. Of all this crew, he might have played it the best.

    There is no real reason to win anymore. In fact, quite the opposite. Because if you win, you get a crappy album pushed out in three months; you get to tour and record at the same time, making you tired and your voice weak; and then you get handed all the lovely press about how you don’t really measure up to past winners and their sales.

    It didn’t suprise me at all when Haley commented she was glad she was out. Casey James said about the same thing last year.

  • aislinn

    On the headline thread, people are complaining that there are no moments this year especially from the final two. I say blame stuff like this here. Why take the risk of going for the moment? You don’t need to win. Why take any risks at all. Stay in your lane and use the free advertising platform.

    I would think a moment would generate a lot more enthusiasm for a contestant’s music post-Idol. I’d argue the opposite is happening – the focus is all just on winning the stupid show, rather than what it will create for them once the final credits roll.

  • CCOREY2034

    Plus Haley doing this is not going to hurt Scotty or Lauren in sales. I mean Scotty is going to have HUGE HUGE MEGA sales. I am predicting upwards of 300,000 for his first week sales. I know his fans are going to go nuts for his new album. He is going to be a huge success. Lauren I think will do Kellie Pickler numbers which hey isnt bad, she will not do Carrie numbers. I think Interscope is going to be good label for Idol. The difference is this year all these kids have gotten to work with record producers, in a record studio and with Jimmy. So many are more prepared then they usually were. Hey I will be tuning into Wednesday’s finale to see Haley’s big performance. Ill be waiting to see her. I cannot wait to see what she does. Also Haley has the most amazing Itunes recording. Did anyone hear her latest Led Zeppelin one, it is beyond amazing? Haley is harder to market then Scotty/Lauren

  • tomr

    It’s a way to get around the current voting system. They can “test the waters” and actually find out just how popular someone is. Also, someone other than the two finalists might luck out and get a good song. Idol doesn’t have a great record putting out first singles that lead to great albums that lead to longevity in the music business. Again…they are just hoping for somebody ANYBODY to do well. Isn’t that why Jimmy was brought aboard this year?

  • tigervixxxen

    “Original” song makes it sound like one she wrote herself but good for Haley to get to perform a single on the finale.

    Do we even know to what extent Scotty and Lauren will get albums? I guess we’ll hear more about that next week.

    And I wouldn’t feel sorry about Archie didn’t get a coronation song. I think Crush more than made up for that.

  • CCOREY2034

    Archeleta and Cook both did Time of My Life. Season 7 they saved it for the performance of the winner. Cook rocked that though and also them telling he got 12 million votes is because everyone railroaded Cook and were pushing Archuleta. Simon even apologized for his behavior.

  • Kirsten

    Well, that hasn’t been true for 9 seasons now so I’m taking that TMZ article with a grain of salt. That simply doesn’t make sense the winner, who is going to sing more songs and going to probably have to work a little harder with extra press, will not make anymore than lower placing finalists.

    They are obviously doing a lot of things differently this year.

    Nigel has been leaking things to TMZ for years.

    Why would TMZ say they saw a contract when they did not? They report what they get. And this would be a weird thing for them to make up for not a lot of hits.

    Just as people argue that Non-finalists should get a chance to release singles this week, people argued that it is reasonable for everybody to make the same amount. People are coming to see Pia and may leave before the Final 2 even perform.

    Paul and Scotty have the right attitude. Do what you want. No need to bother with winning. Stay in your lane. Moments are like bungy jumping – kind of thrilling but meaningless. Use the platform. Don’t bother trying to win. If you do, that’s kind of thrilling but meaningless.

  • weareallinnocent

    I just think there needs to be a reward for making it to the end.

    There is. Come New Year’s, this year’s winner gets to be dubbed the new worst selling winner of all time. ;-)

    Seriously though. All this talk of fair has me looking around at the alter-universe we all must currently inhabit. No one ever said life is fair, and certainly no one here has been suggesting that Idol is the bastion of fairness where its contestants are concerned, have we? lol

    Case in point:

    A) This is Idol. There will be a lot of people who will not download Lauren’s single to prove to the universe that Haley should have won. They might have purchased Lauren’s if there was no new music to buy from Haley that week.

    Talk about “fair.” Even if this were true — and I seriously doubt that someone who hated Lauren that much or had something to “prove” about Haley’s relative worth would conceivably purchase a song by Lauren simply because Haley had yet to release new music — how can we even be discussing the concept of fair competition in this context?! :-)

    Idolverse totally cracks me up!

  • ri

    maybe Nigel found out that lots of people are not interested in an all-country finale or that Haley fans are going to tune out on Wednesday night now that she is gone so he decided to do something big with Haley to get those fans back to make sure they watch.

  • randomjoe

    By the way, this was posted onto the AI boards at 7:30AM EST (~8 hrs ago) by the videographer (Himmm) and still hasn’t been taken down by the notoriously aggressive moderators there. Just saying. Reach your own conclusions.

  • aislinn

    Idol doesn’t have a great record putting out first singles that lead to great albums that lead to longevity in the music business. Again…they are just hoping for somebody ANYBODY to do well. Isn’t that why Jimmy was brought aboard this year?

    Right, there are business reasons for all the choices they are making here, and at this stage of the game, there could be a couple going on:
    1. Haley does have a strong fanbase, and of the ones I’ve seen online, a lot have said they’re not planning on tuning in to the finale. Leaking this increases the likelihood of gaining back that viewership
    2. In order for the record company to feel this is worth their investment, they need to get a return on that investment. Anything and everything they can do to make that happen is a lot more important to them than people’s opinions about a game show whose season is ending, with a viewership that will soon be moving on to the next attention grabbing thing.

  • bananafish

    If the best man wins he shouldn’t need the other contestants to be handicapped in order to succeed.

  • randomjoe

    The funny thing is that I was fairly sure, from the signals, they were going to have Haley do a new single on the finale results show even before this “leak”.

    I’m hoping for a single and duet (with Sir John or Adam).

  • Kirsten

    There is. Come New Year’s, this year’s winner gets to be dubbed the new worst selling winner of all time.

    Yep. That seems to be what you win. No wonder Scotty didn’t what the pimp spot. I have visions of the two finalists tossing the microphone trophy to each other saying “Here, you take it!” like it is a stick of dynamite.

    Winning this thing is virtually meaningless now. They should give the winner some cash like Simon intends to do so they can afford to go to college (especially given the big pay cut they have taken from tour revenue).

  • CindyM

    1. Haley does have a strong fanbase, and of the ones I’ve seen online, a lot have said they’re not planning on tuning in to the finale. Leaking this increases the likelihood of gaining back that viewership

    The durbinators said that when James went out and ratings increased. Haley was already going to be on the finale anyway.

  • webster

    What’s obviously unfair is that the winner doesn’t get the winner’s advantage of releasing a song without a lot of other people on the show competing with him or her.

    Is that winner’s advantage in the contract? If so, then I’m betting they’ll abide by it and these speculations and leaks about other singles will evaporate. If it’s not in the contract, then there is no such “winner’s advantage”. It’s just a circumstance that past winners happened to enjoy, perhaps to their advantage over other contestants.

    If it’s not in the contract, then letting others release singles now is no more unfair to the winners than, in the past years, having non-winners wait to release singles. There should be no expectation that every year has the same contract, much less the same chances beyond the contract. That’s pretty much true in every business situation. Markets, opportunities and strategies vary. People have every right to like some circumstances better than others and feel regret and disappointment. But it doesn’t make sense to me to talk in terms of fairness, as if there is some entitlement beyond the specific winner’s prizes.

  • ross

    If the best man wins he shouldn’t need the other contestants to be handicapped in order to succeed.

    That’s very nice on paper, but I think we have been talking the fairness involved in marketing strategies.

    Record labels don’t release a lot of music from their artists on the same day, because they want to give attention to one at a time. It’s basically the same premise.

  • sagi

    Haley singing an original is not anymore unfair than James having a homecoming and it being mentioned during the top 3. I am sure they are giving singles to all the contestants that seem to have a lot of fans, to test them out and see the buyer response before committing to sign more than the top 2. I am sure it will save them tons of money if they know they can make money off these kids, rather than contractually giving them an album only for little to no return.

  • windmills

    I see why people don’t think it’s fair. But ever since AI started working with i-Tunes, people have had the opportunity to buy their favorites’ singles and that continued for the week after the finale – right? Did the performances get pulled after 1 week? Either way if people wanted to send a message that #3 or #4 or whoever was better than #2 or #1, they had the chance to do that the last couple of seasons.

    In s8 the only available original was No Boundaries and how much of an advantage was that really? In s9 there were no originals available so except for the fact that Lee and Crystal were the only ones with new material they’d sung that week, it was an even playing field.

    At the end of the day if it turns out somebody outside the t2 is going to sell more than the t2 then I’m OK with knowing that now instead of later. Too, if somebody like Haley or Pia sell big 1st week and it’s the outrage factor driving their sales then it’ll show up later if they get an EP or record deal out of it and the outrage factor isn’t there anymore.

    I still don’t like that one or more out of the non t2 will get to sing new songs at the finale but the runner up won’t. But other than that I’m thinking in the long run, it won’t be a big deal. If it’s true that people like Haley and maybe James, Paul, and Pia will get to sing an original at the finale then I wouldn’t be surprised if the feature i-Tunes placement still goes to Scotty and Lauren, especially whoever wins. Scotty and Lauren will also have an extra day on i-Tunes since their songs will go up on Tuesday night.

  • Kirsten

    Record labels don’t release a lot of music from their artists on the same day, because they want to give attention to one at a time. It’s basically the same premise

    Exactly. They don’t have unlimited resources and staff and the radio stations only add so many songs per week.

    If Pia gets the major label push and Haley does not, I hope nobody mentions a bus.

  • randomjoe

    Patch.com (Haley’s hometown news) report
    http://buffalogrove.patch.com/articles/haley-reinhart-recording-first-single
    Nothing new, but has different video, clearer.

    Still cracks me up that they start off their set with a Kenny Loggins song.

  • tomr

    How many top two Idol finishers are even with their original labels. Most have had poor support/promotion after a couple of years. Let them all get while the getting is good. It doesn’t matter to me what they do with Haley since I won’t be buying her music anyway just like most of you won’t be buying Lauren’s or Scott’s. This dangles something out there for everyone, keeps everybody happy, brings you back next season. Smart business move! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  • ross

    Is that winner’s advantage in the contract? If so, then I’m betting they’ll abide by it and these speculations and leaks about other singles will evaporate. If it’s not in the contract, then there is no such “winner’s advantage”. It’s just a circumstance that past winners happened to enjoy, perhaps to their advantage over other contestants.

    Some people still think winners should have advantages over the other contestants. I’m one of them. It’s not about contracts. It’s about having done well enough to get the votes to last the whole season. Excuse me, but I don’t think Pia is bringing any ratings to the show now. She’s not on it.

    Scotty and Lauren are still on it, and the ratings are high, and they’re one reason people are tuning in. The show owes winners (and runners up) something – they’ve kept the viewers watching to the end. The others haven’t. Maybe the show owes the others something, also, but it owes the winner and runner up first. They’re still starring on the show.

    Basically, they’ve worked longer, sung more, competed more, faced the most pressure. The show makes millions from them and I for one think it owes them something.

  • laz

    Yessss, I hope there’s a way for international fans to buy Haley’s single. I love her parents, so candid and giving.

  • koshka

    I just think there needs to be a reward for making it to the end. Every year they erode the value of that and then Ken b!tches that the contestants don’t try hard enough to win. Why should they? They are better off highlighting who they are. Just treat it like an open mic night to show off what you do best.

    On the headline thread, people are complaining that there are no moments this year especially from the final two. I say blame stuff like this here. Why take the risk of going for the moment? You don’t need to win. Why take any risks at all. Stay in your lane and use the free advertising platform.

    On the flip side.. the cream doesn’t always rise to the top. I agree with your point, but I can’t get worked up about it. Unless you end in the top 2, the odds of successfully launching a recording career (even a small one) are not good. In Haley’s case, I don’t think she is going to take any buzz away from the other 2 next week or afterwards.

    RE: fairness
    Since the auditions, Idol hasn’t been fair and even in their cutting of contestants, editing, & other various pimpages.. why should the show suddenly get fair?

  • weareallinnocent

    They’re still starring on the show. They’re going through the competition of the final perfoemance night

    Yes, and no doubt the producers see this as what the show has given the final two contestants, not the other way around. More seasoned contestants probably view it that way, too. But, I do see your point. It’s just from the vantage point that the show couldn’t succeed without those exact two contestants, and really, I’m simply not sure that’s true.

  • googletot

    Wonders if those that think it great for Haley to do this would think it’s great for one of the Idols that came in the rear of the pack!!!

  • McCreerian

    Its kind of interesting, because I wonder if Interscope wants to sign her because its not a country label? Won’t Lauren and Scotty be shipped to a Nashville label under UMG? Or will they sign them with Interscope AND a Nashville sister label(Like how they did with Carrie and Arista and Arista Nashville). So I’m wondering if they want to market at least one idol contestant since Scotty and Lauren will probably be shipped to a country label?

  • randomjoe

    Wonders if those that think it great for Haley to do this would think it’s great for one of the Idols that came in the rear of the pack!!!

    I think there’s a fair chance Pia may be given the same opportunity. Strike while the metal’s hot. It helps the Idol franchise as a whole. So more power to them.

  • ross

    It’s just from the vantage point that the show couldn’t succeed without those exact two contestants, and really, I’m simply not sure that’s true.

    That’s a valid point, nonetheless they are the exact two contestants who are there and that’s how it is. They earned it.

  • koshka

    googletot says:
    05/22/2011 at 4:01 pm
    Wonders if those that think it great for Haley to do this would think it’s great for one of the Idols that came in the rear of the pack!!!

    Why not? I never cared for James, for instance, and I think this would be a good idea for him. He wouldn’t compete in the same market place as the T2 or Haley. If we are just talking about anyone’s new single not the release/push to radio, I’m all for it. The songs will sink or swim on their own merit. The funny thing to me is that I think most of the idol audience just want to hear familiar songs sung well, not new material.

  • webster

    The show owes winners or runners up something

    I am totally in favor of giving them everything they are owed, and clearly, the winner (and maybe runner-up) should have guarantees the others do not, for all the reasons you state, plus to keep the contestants interested in winning.

    What I object to is treating what they are “owed” (via contract) and what just happens to have been there in the past, as one and the same thing. If I want to sell my house, I am not owed the price my neighbor may have gotten for selling his similar house a year ago. The unequalness may sting, but it’s not unfair.

  • McCreerian

    Re: Winner and Runner up advantages, I think they still get to make more money when they get a contract with their albums, and they get to have the post idol media tour. And its not like the rest(or Haley) are guaranteed a contract. Lauren and Scotty can take comfort knowing they will be guaranteed a contract plus those nice new Ford cars ;)

  • Lucy1234

    That is exactly what I thought UMG was going to do. Give some singles to some of the more popular top 13 and then decide if they will sign them to record an album. The top 2 will be guaranteed albums and the others will have to prove their worth. I think that is completely fair.

  • ross

    What I object to is treating what they are “owed” (via contract) and what just happens to have been there in the past, as one and the same thing. If I want to sell my house, I am not owed the price my neighbor may have gotten for selling his similar house a year ago. The unequalness may sting, but it’s not unfair.

    I agree with you – but actually I’m not basing my opinion on what was done in the past, especially. It just happens to strike me as unfair, regardless. The first season I watched this show was Season 8. If they had let Danny perform a new single on the finale, I think that would have seemed unfair to me. Though I wasn’t aware of the precedents.

    It just seems like eliminated people should not be highlighted on the show, other than to come back and sing on the finale “for old times sake.” I don’t think the show should promote them further, on that particular season. It should focus on promoting the ones who are left, who earned the right to be there and be promoted. This is just the way I see it but I’m not sure I can explain it. It all depends on what one’s idea of fair play is, I guess.

  • Lucy1234

    Haley is getting soo much buzz, as she should! She ran away with the competition, but still somehow got 3rd?

    If Haley was running away with the competition I think she would still be “in it to win it”. She may have some buzz in the Idol bubble but when talking to real people I could not find one person who liked her. Everyone I talk to really likes Scotty and Lauren – I think they are much more popular to the casual viewers.

  • spanishfan

    I am so thrilled to hear this. I will definitely be buying any material she records and hopefully a full album as well. She wowed me completely every week with her performances. I cannot remember any performances of the other two. She is edgy and current and every week her studio recordings were the most popular. In my opinion, it was decided in the beginning to get the twin teens to the final and the script was written beforehand. However when they saw Haley becoming more and more popular they realized what a loss it would be to not have her record a single. My whole family were so distressed when she was voted off. She really is something special.

  • webster

    Wonders if those that think it great for Haley to do this would think it’s great for one of the Idols that came in the rear of the pack!!!

    Absolutely! More original music and fewer covers? Assuming the songs are good, what’s not to like? But then, I’m not one of those people who prefer to hear familiar music over new. If it’s true that many people want to hear familiar, they’ll need to watch how many originals they put into one show. Maybe covers on the groups and duets, originals on the others? I’d be so down for that!

  • chessguy99

    I’m thinking Jimmy is calling the shots on this. Interscope is going to hand the country kids over to UMG/Nashville. Jimmy wants something to show for his first Idol season, and an AC ballad singer like Pia isn’t enough to justify Interscopes involvement on the show. Jimmy seems to have been calling the shots on the result show guests, so I think he is going to use the finale to springboard whatever talent he is thinking of signing.

  • weareallinnocent

    That’s a valid point, nonetheless they are the exact two contestants who are there and that’s how it is. They earned it.

    Also a good point, but I would argue that their voters earned it, given how we know the voting goes on this show. ;-)

    FWIW, this year I would be fine with any of the finalists getting a single or two to give them a quick shot at the marketplace. Granted I’m not crazy passionate about anyone this year, which no doubt makes me more open to the prospect. Honestly, I would love to hear what Naima, Jacob, Paul, Casey, Haley, and even Stefano (who I never liked on the show) might put out.

  • Mel1

    This is Idol. There will be a lot of people who will not download Lauren’s single to prove to the universe that Haley should have won.

    All of Lauren’s fans will download her single. Haley’s fans will download hers. Those who like either or both will download accordingly. It’s not like voting against.

  • ross

    Sorry to be boring and long winded, but I guess I feel the need to add: what’s to prevent the producers from doing anything they want? It’s just a TV show. It’s not professional baseball. There are no real rules, and I suppose if Tuesday night they decide they want to do a judges’ wild card round of eliminatd people, and put three more back into the competition, they could probably do that, too. Maybe there’s nothing in the contracts that says they can’t.

    But I have a feeling that at some point people are going to have enough of this kind of thing and tune out.

  • TyraRay

    Well this is awesome. Now I actually have a reason to watch the finale!:)

    This is seriously the worst final 2 in AI history. In my opinion atleast.
    Sucks cause I thought this was the best overall season, too.

  • Lucy1234

    And people here called Lauren mom a “stage mom” for some reason which I don’t know. I would call Haley’s parents super “stage parents”. They need to just shut up and quit giving away details of what is going on behind the scenes. They could just mess things up for their daughter. I guess it is because they are in the music business that they think they can run their mouths.

  • Buffynut

    But aren’t the performances on Wed. usually the Idolettes singing with a big star and they sing that star’s song, like Kiss with Adam, Kris with Keith Urban?
    Maybe her parents re confused. Of course, new territory with Interscope so who knows. It does make sense, though for them to expose their single and get the immediate downloads!

  • MrDuffin

    It should focus on promoting the ones who are left, and who earned the right to be there and be promoted. This is just the way I see it but I’m not sure I can explain it. It all depends on what one’s idea of fair play is, I guess.

    That is the problem with the whole country as I see it. People who do not deserve something because they have not worked for it or are not as talented as someone else want it anyway. If Scotty and Lauren are deserving then what Haley does will not hurt them one bit. That’s just like someone who makes $10 million dollars does not affect my ability to $10 million. They have just worked harder or they are smarter than me but that does not make me entitled to part of their $10 million.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    A couple of things:

    1) The agenda of the show (ratings) is different than the agenda of Jimmy (post Idol sales). These two agenda’s don’t always match. Jimmy may not care about whether winning matters or not. And frankly, winning hasn’t mattered since Season 5.

    2) It doesn’t sound like they are definitely going to release this single, so maybe we are getting our panties up in a wad for nothing? She may sing it on the show? Sounds like a lot of “if’s” to me.

    3) If I don’t like the song, I’m not buying the single. And that goes for all the Idols. I am not as free and loose with my money for Idols as I used to be. I haven’t bought a single itunes song from any Idol this year. I have enjoyed them on youtube. Of course, for some reason my iTunes account is disabled and they won’t email me back. ;-)

    4) Fair: I agree that it’s different than the past, but Idol isn’t fair. Never has been. Never will be.

    5) Also, I have to assume that if TPTB were concerned about the Reinhart’s last week, they would have clamped down on them. They must NOT care. Remeber how Elliot’s ex-girlfriend would spoil his songs for attention? Again, nothing new.

  • randomjoe

    Random thoughts from a random person.

    Idol is a singing contest only in small part.

    (Because as we all know, the best singer does not always win :-). As if we can even define what the best singer is. Ask 10 people and be prepared for 20 answers.)

    It’s a reality game show.

    The characters who resonate with the audience the best win votes. Sometimes they resonate through personality. Sometimes through talent. But most often, how well they match an archtype (cheerleader, girl next door, golden boy, rocker, etc.). (Thus, for most, singing familiar songs in a familiar way succeeds the best.)

    But does this translate into long term music success? Not necessarily.

    This is what they need to fix if they want the franchise to hold sway against competitors. They seems to have figured this out (and said so too) and are willing to separate the two and in addition, find other people who can succeed in the music business so they can point to those as well.

    So, more power to them as they try to make these changes.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Okay, here is my theory: I think Haley sold more iTunes downloads than anyone else this season, including Scotty and Lauren. I think country singles in general sell less downloads than pop singles. So, maybe TPTB looked at the numbers and saw how popular Haley’s recordings are.

    The voters clearly decided that Scotty and Lauren are their favorite TV characters of season 10, but are they just as enthusiastic about their iTunes recordings? I’m not saying TOP 2 won’t do well after the season. I just think their fans weren’t so obsessive about their iTunes recordings.

    Here are some numbers from Last.fm:

    Lauren Alaina 32,182 plays (1,490 listeners)
    Scotty McCreery 15,181 plays (1,280 listeners)

    Haley Reinhart 92,924 plays (2,872 listeners)
    Casey Abrams 31,225 plays (2,628 listeners)
    James Durbin 25,562 plays (1,752 listeners)
    Pia Toscano 21,308 plays (1,391 listeners)
    Paul McDonald 20,017 plays (1,564 listeners)
    Stefano Langone 13,207 plays (1,116 listeners)
    Jacob Lusk 8,703 plays (1,139 listeners)
    Thia Megia 7,622 plays (892 listeners)
    Naima Adedapo 5,270 plays (922 listeners)
    Karen Rodriguez 2,690 plays (513 listeners)
    Ashthon Jones 1,566 plays (379 listeners)

    I’ve been watching these stats and since Haley started churning out performances and recordings such as Benny and The Jets, Piece of my Heart, Rolling in the Deep, House of the Rising Sun, You & I, I Who Have Nothing, her numbers really skyrocketed.

    http://www.last.fm/music/Haley+Reinhart

    Really, someone should go bother Nigel on Twitter to release sales numbers for all contestants during the season. And Season 9, 8 and 7 numbers.

  • Mel1

    I just think there needs to be a reward for making it to the end.

    The reward is they are guaranteed a record contract and huge advances. They also get a car, Disney $$$, and more that we don’t even know.

  • McCreerian

    I’m thinking Jimmy is calling the shots on this. Interscope is going to hand the country kids over to UMG/Nashville. Jimmy wants something to show for his first Idol season, and an AC ballad singer like Pia isn’t enough to justify Interscopes involvement on the show. Jimmy seems to have been calling the shots on the result show guests, so I think he is going to use the finale to springboard whatever talent he is thinking of signing.

    MTE. You stole the words right out of my mouth. Intercope will need somebody from idol to “show off” since they will be shipping Lauren and Scotty to UMG Nashville. Unless of course they sign them to both Interscope and UMG Nashville(similar to Carrie with Arista AND Arista Nashville).

  • webster

    what’s to prevent the producers from doing anything they want?

    if the show counts as a game show, and something from Nigel
    last week implied it did, then they have some definite guidelines they have to adhere to, probably whatever they agreed to at the start of the season. There have been very costly game show scandals in the past.

    But I have a feeling that at some point people are going to have enough of this kind of thing and tune out.

    Exactly. That’s exactly what people should do, that and post complaints, if they feel that what the show does does not match their own ideas of what’s fair (or interesting or entertaining).

  • shooby1213

    Hello…This is coming from her parents…Seems like they have pretty big mouths. Didnt they say when they leaked they Led Zeppelin song that Zeppelin saw Haleys performances and was so impressed THEY contacted AI? Well it was confirmed by the backstage reports that the procucers contacted Zeppelin and showed them her performances and said yes…Either her parents love to embellish stories or they are repeating what Haley tells them. Either way they have big mouths and are proven not to be reliable………I dont think she would be the only one to sing an original if thats the case.

  • Mel1

    Here are some numbers from Last.fm:

    Alaina 32,182 plays (1,490 listeners)
    Scotty McCreery 15,181 plays (1,280 listeners)

    Haley Reinhart 92,924 plays (2,872 listeners)

    I can see why AI/19 wants Haley to record ASAP. The AI votes do not tell all.

  • Incipit

    …Her parents seem to say she is recording a single, that may be released and that may be “played” on Wednesday. The headline says she is performing an original on Wednesday.

    Webster – You are talking sense. That’s probably not allowed, you know. *snerk*

    Yes, two very different things. The parents statement has two “may” disclaimers, and says ‘played’ – not sung.

    The headline does not. So whatever may be ‘fair and equitable’ or just business as usual’ – it has not been confirmed to be happening – and there is no clarity from TPTB – which may be exactly what they are after – but they can float their trial balloons elsewhere….so Nigel can make fun of the reactions.

    I have no opinion on this, because, logically speaking, there is no ‘this’ – Just a “What If”? We don’t actually know what’s going to happen.

    I know. No fun at all. Heh.

  • randomjoe

    This is coming from her parents again… They leaked the led Zeppelin song saying Zeppelin contacted ai cuz they were so impressed.. Well backstage report confirmed the producers contacted Zeppelin.. They seem to have big mouths and embellish the story. Given their track record I take this with a grain of salt….

    True, definitely some factual errors there. We should not discount that this is a second hand report and things do get lost (“in translation”) along the way.

    And by the way, the Led Zeppelin post was based in truth. It is rare for them to give such clearances.

  • Hailey

    They’re blabbing their way into coming off as “Ride the daughter meal train parents” It’s starting to seem odd. They should quit while they’re ahead. It won’t be long before the media rips them to shreds for tagging along on their daughters coat tails.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Who is to say Nigel didn’t give the go-ahead for these so-called spoilers to create weekend buzz for the show?

  • sue

    Hmmm…this is very strange? I love Haley but would that be right to do this at the finale when people are suppose to focus on the winner first? Is Haley going to get backlash for taking the thunder away from the winner and runner-up? I don’t think this is a great idea but Jimmy is trying to “strike while the iron is hot” and I think he wants to see how many pissed off Haley fans will tune in and buy her single after the finale. He really doesn’t care who wins, lol. Hey she can actually sing her single on tour if that is the case and get radio play. May not be a bad idea after all. I know “Crush” was really successful because it was released when Archie was still on tour with the idols in S7.

    Is this going to make some of the other contestants jealous like James/Pia who may have hinted singles also??

  • webster

    They’re blabbing their way into coming off as “Ride the daughter meal train parents”

    I don’t see that. It might very well be that it’s new to them that they can talk to people in the ordinary way that people do, and other people tape them and bounce it around the internet. Earlier in the season, they were probably also commenting to their grocery clerk or dentist about what Haley was doing, but no one turned that into “news”, much less accused them of grandstanding.

    It reminds me of season 8. Towards the end, someone posted a link to a message board that Adam’s brother Neil had been a long time member of. Like many, the posts were public to read. Neil had been posting all season about what Adam was up to, just yakking away with message board friends with no need to hide what he was saying. Then, all of sudden, at some point, everything about Adam became news, that link started getting spread around, and sure enough, Neil learned that it was a whole new world that needed a new level of discretion, or your going to get a lot of strangers digging up your ordinary communication, spreading it around, and then accusing you for being too public. A new and strange world.

  • randomjoe

    Here are some numbers from Last.fm:
    Alaina 32,182 plays (1,490 listeners)
    Scotty McCreery 15,181 plays (1,280 listeners)

    Haley Reinhart 92,924 plays (2,872 listeners)

    I can see why AI/19 wants Haley to record ASAP. The AI votes do not tell all.

    I wouldn’t take this as an indictment of the voting system. I strongly suspect that Haley has a fairly large international following. She could possibly go on to play bigger overseas than in the US.

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    Jimmy knows that he’s turning both of the Top 2 over to UMG’s Nashville group. He knows that he can do whatever he wants with Haley and sees potential. Bottom line guy, after all.

  • sue

    Jimmy knows that he’s turning both of the Top 2 over to UMG’s Nashville group. He knows that he can do whatever he wants with Haley and sees potential. Bottom line guy, after all.

    Bingo that is it!

  • tawny

    I always thought parents had to sign a confidentiallity agreement. Announcing stuff in public is not confidential at all.

    I’m at the point of not really caring anymore – it’s not like I can do anything about it. All of the judges pushing their product all season, the other product placements, pimpage, etc. is making this show not very enjoyable anymore.

    Maybe the top 2 can be on for the last 5 minutes and they can use the rest of the show to try and sell stuff.

  • desiree_chick

    If you guys think this is bad, have you’ve seen the UK X-Factor? The mass marketing push will get worse once that show premieres in the States.

  • Elliegrll

    Is this going to make some of the other contestants jealous like James/Pia who may have hinted singles also??

    Some people will be signed and some won’t, that’s the case every season. At this point, all of the contestants know whether or not Jimmy and UMG are interested in them. Pia’s been working on music for a few weeks, and it’s highly unlikely that Haley was just presented with these songs yesterday. Everybody who Jimmy wants has been working with him or some other producer for weeks.

    The whole test trial thing doesn’t make sense. Everyone is going to need promotion, and there needs to be a plan in place. Just throwing music out there for any of them, but especially for four or more people won’t work.

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    I know Ace Young’s mom personally–see her every week–and she was very liberal with information. They don’t swear the parents to secrecy or anything.

  • jpfan

    Is Haley going to get backlash for taking the thunder away from the winner and runner-up?

    No. They’re just using the finale as a way to push as much product as possible. I wouldn’t be surprised if other Idols did original music as well.

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    Is Haley going to get backlash for taking the thunder away from the winner and runner-up?

    So many people are pissed off that she is NOT the winner or runner-up that I think it’s the opposite. Appeasement. No third-place elimination has ever generated this much anger, not even Elliott Yamin.

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    Also, I’m guessing that the tour producers already know that Haley is going to wipe the floor with the Top 2 in live performances (which could be embarrassing). There were enough reports from the inside of the studio to predict that.

  • McCreerian

    If I had to guess, 4 people will be signed by 19/idol-Pia, Haley and by default, Lauren and Scotty. I’m guessing the rest will probably be released from idol when their contracts are up which would let them be signed by an outside label? I guess James is another possibility. But the rest are on their own.

  • jpfan

    No third-place elimination has ever generated this much anger, not even Elliott Yamin.

    Third place finisher Danny Gokey got tons of anger…most directed at him unfortunately. ;)

    When the finale is over, 19 will sign whoever they want just like always. Outside of the blogs, I don’t see much Haley buzz either. Nothing to compare to what happened when Pia got the boot for example.

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    James will be signed. Casey may as well, if only to duet with Haley on a track or two from her album.

  • IrelandIdol

    Yeah i totally agree that it could be that Haley has more of an international following. I live in Ireland and almost everyone I know that was watching idol was rooting for Casey and Haley.. could be the case!

  • McCreerian

    No third-place elimination has ever generated this much anger, not even Elliott Yamin.

    What about Melinda Doolittle?

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    What about Melinda Doolittle?

    Blake came on so strong at the end that I don’t know…it was an illusion that she was the favorite. Jordin always was.

  • tomr

    The tastes of the “international following.” are significantly different than the U.S. There’s still hope for Haley then.

  • jpfan

    Also, I’m guessing that the tour producers already know that Haley is going to wipe the floor with the Top 2 in live performances (which could be embarrassing).

    Sounds like the applause meter will be in full effect for the S10 tour. I think the plan is clearly to give a few of them singles. If someone hits the lottery, then they get an album. I guess the finale will be the launch although that’s actually a tough venue to debut a song. So much else going on that night.

  • CindyM

    MahlerFan says:
    05/22/2011 at 5:02 pm

    So many people are pissed off that she is NOT the winner or runner-up that I think it’s the opposite. Appeasement. No third-place elimination has ever generated this much anger, not even Elliott Yamin.

    Where is the outrage outside of Idol blogs?? I mean, with Pia, you got talk outside the Idol press regarding Idol voting patterns and the disadvantage women have with regard to voters. I haven’t seen much on Haley’s ouster that’s anywhere close to the press Pia got.

  • randomjoe

    Also, I’m guessing that the tour producers already know that Haley is going to wipe the floor with the Top 2 in live performances (which could be embarrassing).

    Are you refering to this?
    http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/05/18/american-idol-inside-the-rehearsal-for-tonights-show/

    Haley Reinhart, Lauren Alaina and Scotty McCreery took the stage to hammer out the staging for their three performances tonight, which I think revealed some serious girl power. In person, Haley owns the stage and has a stage presence that a) the others don’t and b) you just can’t feel on TV. And from what I could see through the onslaught of dry ice, we may see her best ever showing in two of her three songs tonight.

    As for Lauren we knew she had a voice but wow – in person it’s beautiful. She is a star in the making. It’s understandable why the judges applauded her immediately during rehearsals.

    But Scott–that country boy–he works the cameras like the girls do not and that may be why many are favoring him to win. He works the crowd too, but he has an awareness of the cameras as he sings.

    If so, I think the likely outcome is that Haley may gain some respect on tour and be better positioned to do a show of her own.

    The James-Lauren-Scotty-etc. fans will find much to love in them.

  • panz

    Excellent news. I’m so pleased with this. I don’t follow the ins and outs of who handles what but this makes perfect sense to leak this and build up some (otherwise lacking) excitement for the finale.

    Pia got a lot of attention for leaving unexpectedly early. Not sure if it’s because I’m practically in Haley’s backyard but, in RL, people are furious about this. I’ve been out to lunch and dinner and, when we’re talking about Haley, strangers have excused themselves and started telling us how ticked off they were by last week’s elimination. Not just an isolated instance but wherever I go. Just anecdota, to be sure, of course.

    What I don’t like is the test angle. If the single doesn’t sell well, that could be in. Let’s hope it does sell well. Based on what I’ve heard, her others have done well.

  • Buffynut

    Mateja says:

    05/22/2011 at 4:29 pm

    Okay, here is my theory: I think Haley sold more iTunes downloads than anyone else this season, including Scotty and Lauren. I think country singles in general sell less downloads than pop singles. So, maybe TPTB looked at the numbers and saw how popular Haley’s recordings are.

    BINGO!! And I would say the i-Tunes ratings also show this. Why would Interscope and 19 not want to have another Haley song available for her fans to download?!
    I also agree that Lauren and Scotty will premiere their new singles on Tuesday night.
    I am still confused about the guest stars. I mean, they are still doing duets, since we know Casey is doing one with Jack Black.

  • halo9125

    They’re blabbing their way into coming off as “Ride the daughter meal train parents”. (sorry I screwed up- this was supposed to be blockquoted)

    The whole daddy playing the guitar while daughter sang thing bugged me too- I understand that AI gave both Lauren’s and Scotty’s parents equal air time- but it still didn’t seem right to me. Lauren’s stage mommy is actually starting to pale in comparison to these two.

  • jpfan

    Thinking about this for awhile, I def think Haley and Pia will get singles. And if Haley does her single, I’m sure Pia will sing her song as well. So right now I’m 50/50 as to whether either song will be done on the finale. Add Scotty and Lauren and that’s alot of original music to push in one night.

  • tomr

    It’s cheaper to have them sing singles than to pay someone to duet with them.

  • girlygirl

    I wouldn’t be too certain that Haley, or Pia or whoever else debuting a single on the finale would automatically result in big sales. David Cook, Lee and Jordin all debuted new singles on Idol this season, and none of them ended up getting huge sales off the exposure. And their fanbases are likely as big if not bigger than any of the S10 contestants.

    Generally the winner’s “coronation” song sells well in its first week or so, so I would expect whatever Scotty or Lauren perform on the finale that is released as the “winner’s song” will do well.

    Now this is just me personally, but in general, if I don’t like a single, I don’t buy it, even if it is by my favorite musician. I’m more likely to buy the album that song is on, because at least I can skip over it knowing I have other songs from the artist to listen to. Conversely, I rarely buy music from an artist I’m not a fan of. There have been rare exceptions when I think a song is amazing and I’ll download it even if I don’t usually listen to/follow/like the performer, but that is very rare. And while $1.29 isn’t a lot of money in itself, it can add up quickly when you are thinking about getting music from more than a couple of artists. So I don’t know if a lot of people are going to download singles from the Idol contestants they aren’t big fans of — unless, of course they really love the song.

  • randomjoe

    They’re blabbing their way into coming off as “Ride the daughter meal train parents”.

    The whole daddy playing the guitar while daughter sang thing bugged me too- I understand that AI gave both Lauren’s and Scotty’s parents equal air time- but it still didn’t seem right to me. Lauren’s stage mommy is actually starting to pale in comparison to these two.

    Dad on guitar was fulfilling Haley’s dream. She has performed with her mom and dad for nearly 12 years. Why wouldn’t she want to bring them up on stage with her at least once? Don’t you think she has dreamed of it in her Idol dreams?

    If her parents really cared about money and fame, I think they would have chosen a different path in life instead of scrapping a life out as club musicians.

    Honestly, I think they thought they were talking to friends and family and supporters both times.

    In fact, if you have seems some of the past articles, they don’t seem to have day to day contact with their daughter at all and she has been fairly independent in her Idol journey.

    This isn’t to say they aren’t getting advantages from this, but I doubt that’s their motivation. (They come off as “hippies” and her mom is definitely a chatterbox.).

  • MrDuffin

    I think Haley will continue to play with her folks if at all possible and I think she is proud to be their child. I don’t know why folks seem to think they are not good enough to be on AI but I think dad is a good guitar player and there is nothing wrong with being a hippie. It’s a lot better than being a preachy clown.

    I guess Haley reminds me of Crystal in the sense she has mind of her own……and says FU if you don’t like it (in a nice way of course)! I can’t stand a wimpy women!

  • Nina1

    I think Haley’s parents were pretty vague: the “announcement” was merely that Haley was recording, the rest seems up in the air. It does seem they were authorized. But I’m going to guess if originals are sung on the finale, they will be available as downloads, sung on tour to bolster sales. Interscope, Idol, etc., would be nuts to pass up this marketing opportunity and buying songs feeds into buying tickets. This works for the winner, and also everyone else on tour. The winner is still the winner. NBD.

  • Valentin432

    I have a hard time believing this. Even more so because it comes straight out of the mouth of people who claimed Led Zep were offering songs to their daughter.

    TPTB have never had contestants perform originals in the finale.
    Finales are supposed to be those big cheesy celebrations of the whole season with plenty of stars, group numbers and sketch, originals songs just don’t seem to fit into that (except the cheesetastics coronation songs).

  • Elliegrll

    Okay, here is my theory: I think Haley sold more iTunes downloads than anyone else this season, including Scotty and Lauren. I think country singles in general sell less downloads than pop singles. So, maybe TPTB looked at the numbers and saw how popular Haley’s recordings are.

    The third place finisher has been signed before, it happened in 2009 and 2010. Maybe Haley sold more singles, but if that were the case, why are her parents saying that if everything goes well with the single she might get an album? Either they have faith that she can be a legitimate artist or they don’t. So called “testing the waters” is only going to work with AI fans, and not the general public.

  • BrandoC15

    Maybe Haleys dad played with her this last Wednesday because her and her dad have played that song so many times before (which they have) and she really wanted him to. And maybe he played with her because he’s actually GOOD enough to play guitar on Idol. I hear the guy is a legend in Chicago. I didn’t find it “controversal” at all. Just a girl wantin her dad to jam out with her on stage. Very sweet on Haleys part!

  • McCreerian

    3rd is the new second on idol and 2nd and 1st are almost “co-winners.” It seems like it has been like that since Season 8.

  • Nina1

    I hear the guy is a legend in Chicago. I didn’t find it “controversal” at all. Just a girl wantin her dad to jam out with her on stage. Very sweet on Haleys part!

    That, and the producers thinking it would be great TV. It certainly was great TV.

  • songsungblue

    I think if you find Haley annoying, you’re going to find this news annoying. I find Pia’s Kardashian Lite demeanor absolutely atrocious and vomit-inducing, while I thought Haley’s Dad’s guitar playing was sweet and admirable. If you find Scotty icky and Jesus-freaky, you’re going to find his 9/11 number blech. If you love him, you’re going to feel it’s totally heartwarming and sincere.

    It’s completely YMMV how these contestants come off. Hence, the many blog comments! ;) I’ll be curious how Haley and Pia’s singles are received, but I doubt they’re really debuting them on the finale. They might show them in the studio recording, but would the turnaround be that fast?

  • Mel1

    I hear the guy is a legend in Chicago. I didn’t find it “controversal” at all. Just a girl wantin her dad to jam out with her on stage. Very sweet on Haleys part!

    That, and the producers thinking it would be great TV. It certainly was great TV.

    I thought it was great TV, esp when Haley’s dad turned out to be really really good.

  • randomjoe

    That, and the producers thinking it would be great TV. It certainly was great TV.

    It was classic “idol” TV, but not typical Haley TV. Not sure it translated into much added support for her.
    (Even less sure that was a goal).

  • jammasta

    I think if you find Haley annoying, you’re going to find this news annoying. I find Pia’s Kardashian Lite demeanor absolutely atrocious and vomit-inducing, while I thought Haley’s Dad’s guitar playing was sweet and admirable. If you find Scotty icky and Jesus-freaky, you’re going to find his 9/11 number blech. If you love him, you’re going to feel it’s totally heartwarming and sincere.

    I agreed to this so hard it hurts :P.

  • Mel1

    It was classic “idol” TV, but not typical Haley TV. Not sure it translated into much added support for her.

    Problem with this type of voting, we never know how many people voted for her, Lauren and Scotty. Haley might have more voters but fewer votes. Maybe Lauren had more voters but fewer votes than Scotty. We’ll never know.

  • koshka

    Where is the outrage outside of Idol blogs?? I mean, with Pia, you got talk outside the Idol press regarding Idol voting patterns and the disadvantage women have with regard to voters. I haven’t seen much on Haley’s ouster that’s anywhere close to the press Pia got.

    Yeah.. I don’t see a lot of outrage either. James was supposed to have shock boot buzz, but I haven’t seen that either. I don’t think all that much that happens on idol is all that buzzworthy anymore. Even Pia’s departure caused a little bit, but I’m surprised how quickly it disappeared as the season rolled on.

  • koshka

    I guess Haley reminds me of Crystal in the sense she has mind of her own……and says FU if you don’t like it (in a nice way of course)! I can’t stand a wimpy women!

    I hope to hell Haley is better on Twitter than Crystal.. but I agree with you.

  • Chicagolaw

    If James can have that Zak guy play guitar with him, what’s the problem with Haley having her father do so? I don’t see the problem.

    Also, I don’t have any trouble believing that AI sent a request to Led Zepplin for Haley’s song, they watched her do HOTRS, and then they called back and offered her their songs. I really don’t think her parents are about making up stories.

  • randomjoe

    I hope to hell Haley is better on Twitter than Crystal.. but I agree with you.

    Typical Haley Tweets are sugary and infrequent. No spice. Included the meanest tweet I’ve seen from her.

    Ahhh sooo it’s been a while.. But goodness sakes alive! I love all of your sweettttweets. Thank yaz! Night sugah plums, until tomorrow… ;)

    Thereee will be an answer. Let it be.

    I sure did miss my families annual easter egg hunt.. I bet my sista didn’t miss the part where I beat her.. Every year ;) #Mhmmfamilylooove

    ETA: Just checked Crystal’s. Haley’s are less informative and have a lot more flavor.

  • ross

    I think if you find Haley annoying, you’re going to find this news annoying.

    I don’t find Haley annoying. I like her. I find the idea unfair. It’s not about Haley. It’s possible to be objective and have an opinion that isn’t about being a fan (or not) of a particular contestant.

  • Elliegrll

    I hope to hell Haley is better on Twitter than Crystal.. but I agree with you.

    I wish she had shown that she has a mind of her own. She sang one song this year, because the judges said that she reminded them of the original singer. She sang another, because it was similar in style to songs that that singer did. More than once she let Jimmy push her into singing a song that she wasn’t comfortable with. And as awkward as she looked at times, I doubt that a lot of the outfits and shoes that she wore on stage are similar to what she usually wears. I think she let the idol wardrobe people give her the Haley Scarnato treatment. She definitely had the Haley S. edit during the start of the season.

  • webster

    A big part of the Pia story, besides her great voice, was the fear that girls were just not going to get votes this year. That turned around very quickly, so a big part of the story was gone.

    . Lauren’s stage mommy is actually starting to pale in comparison to these two

    Lauren’s mom was stage-mommy? I’ve seen a couple of hints of that in this thread, but don’t remember seeing anything of that in her reported behaviour. What did she (supposedly) do? I think of stage-parent as being a non-performer that tries to control their kid’s career, interfering with directors, inserting their opinion, trying to curry favor, etc. I’ve not seen reports of Lauren’s mom doing that stuff, but maybe I’ve missed it.

    I don’t see any of that with Haley’s parents, either. They just seem to be professional musicians that have included their kids in their act. Most pro musicians do that if (a) the kid is interested and talented and (b) their genre isn’t opera or something that wouldn’t lend itself to kiddy vocals.

    Maybe I don’t have the same definition of stage-parent.

  • HR

    From what I observed Pia’s exit generated the most attention. No one else’s this season has come close.

    IMO James generated the second most with Haley in third.

    Pia’s disadvantage is that she left in 9th place. It seems unlikely she’ll sale what she may have when she was everywhere for a month. James and Haley have an advantage in being more recent exits.

    My view is that fans can talk their favorites up but no one knows how many “real” fans they have willing to buy their music until it’s released.

  • randomjoe

    And as awkward as she looked at times, I doubt that a lot of the outfits and shoes that she wore on stage are similar to what she usually wears. I think she let the idol wardrobe people give her the Haley Scarnato treatment. She definitely had the Haley S. edit during the start of the season.

    No, if there’s blame, I’d blame her not the stylist. I think she was a kid in a candy store. If you ever watched one of her pre-idol performances (see the roundhouse jazz performances), she does not flinch from sultry where she finds it “appropriate” (e.g. as an extension of her 50/60s jazz siren identity).

    Interestingly, I saw lots of tweets saying they wanted to know more about her outfits, so at least as time went along, she made a statement (some) people wanted to hear.

    A recent retweet from Haley:

    lobrookep Lauren Plumer r/t HReinhartAI10
    @HReinhartAI10 was the greatest “post modern hippie-grunge, yet trendiest” girl on AI. Her aura is awesome, but her voice is KILLER!

  • OldHag

    If this is true – it is wrong. PERIOD. What is the point in winning?

  • satchvai

    3 Standing O’s in 3 weeks and the popularity implied by Youtube view, last.fm listens, celebrity adulation and iTunes ratings, honestly Jimmy would be a fool if he didn’t take advantage of this situation to sell a single and promote her.

  • MrDuffin

    If this is true – it is wrong. PERIOD. What is the point in winning?

    The last two years the winner did not deserve to win so this is the way to fix that problem.

  • Kirsten

    I think if you find Haley annoying, you’re going to find this news annoying. I find Pia’s Kardashian Lite demeanor absolutely atrocious and vomit-inducing, while I thought Haley’s Dad’s guitar playing was sweet and admirable.

    On the contrary, I have loved Haley since the beginning and I find this news annoying. I love the Idol game despite its aggravations and I want people to want to win. I want people to want there favorites to win. There has to be some advantage to winning and this news whittled away one of the last advantages to making it to final 2.

    I don’t care for Pia, but it really hasn’t bothered me what she has done. I was delighted to see Haley’s Dad playing and thought it was a fantastic Idol moment. I didn’t even think it was necessary to showcase the other contestant’s parents.

  • mada23

    If this is true – it is wrong. PERIOD. What is the point in winning?

    The point of winning is that you get signed and get a 1 mil contract. Doesn’t mean they can’t promote the others in top 3. This is FANTASTIC news. At least now AI has a better chance of finding more success from the show unlike what happened last year.

  • Lucy1234

    Some of the comments here are bordering on ridiculous. Haley was never a favorite, was in the bottom many times, assumed the underdog character, which garnered her votes to get to 3d and then got the boot. She had some very good performances but also some bad and was inconsistent. Most people thought she should have been gone before #3. I don’t know anyone who was surprised when she was voted off and many did not like her personality. I love how Idol fans try to rewrite history and I am surprised by the heading on this thread that says she is singing an original song on the finale when it seems to be only a possibility. I would think there would be much more excitement about Pia and James (who were considered to be shock boots and were thought by most to go out too early) releasing singles than Haley.

  • JayJ

    Firstly, I think the headline is misleading–this is all speculation, and could very well, not happen. With that being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if it did. I see a lot of commenters saying that this isn’t fair to the final 2, but I don’t see how this affects them in anyway. Haley is a completely different genre than them. Also, I think her itunes sales had a lot to do with it. As a Haley fan, I’m both excited and nervous. I really hope whatever song is released (whether it be on the finale or at another time), that it doesn’t bomb. I think she has so much potential.

  • cookbunny

    I think the meme that “winning matters” was obliterated from the opening credits of the first episode of the season, when they decided to include Jennifer Hudson, Daughtry and Adam Lambert. Why bother with the pretense anymore?

  • koshka

    OldHag I guess I stopped feeling it was unfair or wrong when it became apparent that the winners couldn’t bring the goods in terms of sales season after season (going back to daughtry) These contracts are not supposed to be charity and with the music industry in a free fall I can’t blame them for looking for the best way to make a profit. The way idol is produced it’s never been fair, otherwise I suspect the top 12 would look very different each year.

  • Kirsten

    The last two years the winner did not deserve to win so this is the way to fix that problem.

    Whoever gets the most votes deserves to win. That is how the game works.

    Whoever wins on the clay courts of Roland Garros is the French Open Champion even if they go out in the first round on the grass courts of Wimbledon.

    I am dreading posting the number’s thread on June 1st.

  • songsungblue

    I don’t actually care if it’s fair, because the BUSINESS is not fair. There’s nothing in the contract that says that she can’t do it, and that’s fair enough for me. However, I seriously doubt that they’re going to trot them all out with their singles if it puts the winner’s in jeopardy of failing. I DO think they’ve assessed everyone’s chances and are putting resources behind the most viable. And since they have completely different lanes, who cares?

    I think she let the idol wardrobe people give her the Haley Scarnato treatment. She definitely had the Haley S. edit during the start of the season.

    I loved her style. She’s one of the few that HAD style, IMO. And Haley Scarnato? I don’t think so. Haley S. was never taken remotely seriously. Haley R. was taken VERY seriously.

  • merkureye

    ross says:
    05/22/2011 at 3:50 pm

    Some people still think winners should have advantages over the other contestants. I’m one of them. It’s not about contracts. It’s about having done well enough to get the votes to last the whole season. Excuse me, but I don’t think Pia is bringing any ratings to the show now. She’s not on it.

    Scotty and Lauren are still on it, and the ratings are high, and they’re one reason people are tuning in. The show owes winners (and runners up) something – they’ve kept the viewers watching to the end. The others haven’t. . . . .
    .

    I agree to some extent with the above opinion, how.ev.errr . . .

    I think it may be a stretch to attribute the ratings of AI this season directly to Lauren and Scotty. AI has always won its timeslot on Fox even in the horrific S9. In addition, it appears that the L&S voters were there from the beginning no matter what they sang or how they sang it or, for that matter, how or what anybody else sang. So, the statement, “Its about having done well enough to get the votes to last the whole season”, is a rather subjective standard. That is, if you believe AI is purely a singing contest to begin with (its not).

    Many people (like me for example) think Pia did well enough to be deserving of votes. Unfortunately it seems Pia’s fans are somewhat technologically challenged (now please explain one more time slowly, . .what is power-voting again???).

    Oh well, I like Pia’s chances for a career post-idol without the obvious and substantial advantages of actually winning AI. And oh, by the way, once Pia was off, Haley was my girl! Haley’s talent, personality, and attitude are awesome!

  • webster

    When I first read MJ’s headline, I just thought it meant Haley would get to sing a song she wrote. I don’t mind her getting a single, but I like the other interpretation better.

  • Valgal

    I am glad that Haley is finally getting some acknowledgement. I am looking forward to hearing this new single Wednesday.

    @MrDuffin I haven’t watched Season 9, but I think the right person won on Season 8. Kris is a terrific singer and I don’t know why people give him a hard time. He is underated imo.

  • tomr

    Let her maximize her very short career. Lauren and Scott will be fine for the short term as well. How many second place finishers are even under contract now? Diana and Kat had to go a little different route. Adam is still trying to hang in there. Even the winners are struggling with some having good mid-level success but never going any higher. Finishing below #1 has rarely resulted in a music career that has reached high levels. Less than a handful (Kelly, Carrie, Daughtry) continue to really make a dent in the music industry. These contestants, if lucky, should realize that a good short-term mid-level music career is probably the best that an Idol alumnus can hope for. Once the show doesn’t exist any longer, they won’t even have the Idol blogs anymore to occasionally remind us that they were even once on the show. Let them each have their moment of fame because for the great great majority it will be a fleeting moment indeed.

  • OldHag

    The last two years the winner did not deserve to win so this is the way to fix that problem.

    They did deserve to win – that is who the America voted in. Neither was my choice however, they didn’t cheat, they didn’t pull a fast one, they didn’t lie. They gave their best shot and it worked. If the others “deserved” to win they will come off on top eventually anyway – like Adam, Daughtery, and (God help us) Kelly Pickler. But if it is true that she is getting to sing an original song in what is supposed to be a showcase for all contestants (especially the winner), it is wrong.

  • songsungblue

    Most people thought she should have been gone before #3. I don’t know anyone who was surprised when she was voted off and many did not like her personality.

    If most people thought that, why would she have lasted to #3?

  • webster

    I am dreading posting the number’s thread on June 1st.

    Why? I have no idea how much work goes into posting the numbers threads, but I am sure it is a lot. But does one more single make it that much harder? Or is it because it might also be Pia and James and….. However many more?

  • fanaround

    I think this is Jimmy trying to move Idol more into the way the market works now – with a focus on singles. The winners get their guaranteed albums, cars, etc. They sing (we think) their singles Tuesday when the whole show is about them. Other popular contestants have always had songs on the finale – if some now become singles rather than random duets with stars, I think that is both great and smart! And I like Haley and want her music!

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    If this is true – it is wrong. PERIOD. What is the point in winning?

    How quickly we forget Daughtry.

  • Nina1

    These contestants’ biggest problem is that none of them get any product before the public for 5-6 months after the show ends. That time is a marketing black hole and very poorly utilizes the show that created interest in the first place. Most Idols spend a long time re-creating interest when it never should have been allowed to fade in the first place.

    I would not only have the contestants sing originals, which can be bought,, I would also have them making the television rounds in the month before the tour. All three of the top three, or as many as put out an original.

    You can’t call the show a boring failure, then get upset when they make a change. The idea is to give the kids a career; this should help the winner, not hinder him.

  • Buffynut

    webster says:

    05/22/2011 at 7:29 pm

    I am dreading posting the number’s thread on June 1st.

    Why? I have no idea how much work goes into posting the numbers threads, but I am sure it is a lot. But does one more single make it that much harder? Or is it because it might also be Pia and James and….. However many more?

    In the past, this is the week Idol allows th i-Tunes numbers for that week to be released. So there will be 13 people with several songs and lots of fans butthurt.

    In talking about why bother to win, let’s not forget the winner also gets the Ford deal and the Disney deal. I think those are worth a couple of extra $100,000.

  • abbysee

    Most people thought she should have been gone before #3. I don’t know anyone who was surprised when she was voted off and many did not like her personality.

    If most people thought that, why would she have lasted to #3?

    I guess the way folk have been talking since Thursday, I could ask the same about Scotty and Lauren, lol.

    I don’t care if Haley gets a single, it’s just a single. However if she gets to debut a single before the co-winners, lol, then I do feel it’s wrong. Especially if she gets to sing it on the finale. However, they need to tread carefully because if this is a test drive, it could blow up in their faces, especially if an entire cd is contingent on the singles success. Idol hasn’t had much success with that lately. So it might not be such a good thing.

  • OldHag

    I do wonder how many of those who think this is a wonderful thing would feel that way if it was Lauren booted at number three? I am so willing to bet we would be hearing a lot about how unfair that “the chosen one” was getting an opportunity that no one else on idol has ever gotten before.

  • randomjoe

    If this is true – it is wrong. PERIOD. What is the point in winning?

    To achieve the adulation.
    To reach a platform from which send your messages.
    To get the $1m contract and all the associated perks.
    To get better promotion for a few years from the idol machine.
    Pick one or more.

    As far as music, in the age where CDs had to be mass produced and sent to stores. A great deal. Now, the cost of entry is much lower and the cost of marketing, while still there, can be applied in different more leverageable ways (e.g. less costly).

    AI creates a platform, which would be very costly to create via marketing, from where you can launch if you have captured the right kinds of fans — those who like the music you’ll do post-Idol. But this platform is also created to a degree for at least the top 3-5 or others who path is seen as musicaly worthy (and even some whose were not).

  • Elliegrll

    No, if there’s blame, I’d blame her not the stylist.

    I’m going to blame her, because it’s her career and image, so she should always be strong enough to go with what works best for her.

    These contestants’ biggest problem is that none of them get any product before the public for 5-6 months after the show ends. That time is a marketing black hole and very poorly utilizes the show that created interest in the first place.

    Based on what we’ve seen so far with Pia, and pretty much the whole top 11, I have a feeling that UMG is not going to let 19 get away with doing a half-assed job of promotion. I think the ones who are signed will be in front of the public a lot more during the summer, than they ever have before. Plus, Jimmy will be releasing original music. That could help, but it could also hurt them, if the music isn’t promoted properly, and if it looks and sounds like what it is, a total rush job.

  • tomr

    Well in that case the two remaining “minors” hopefully have great attorneys and accountants to invest wisely in the very challenging economic times that we are in.

  • movin2thabeet

    I don’t have time to look through all the comments, but I did peruse a couple of pages worth. Here’s my two cents:

    Because of the voting rules (which Nigel is considering changing), the top vote getters are not necessarily the most popular contestants, and there is definitely not a direct correlation with ability to sell singles/albums and voting ranking. This year, more than ever, Idol producers are trying out different rules and approaches as they go. I’m sure that one of the conditions of bringing Jimmy Iovine in was that some of the rules regarding recording have been significantly changed, including what contestants get to record what and when.

    The days, attached to Simon Cowell, of the winner getting most of the goodies, is over. It was even more over when the two left standing were both country. Putting out only country music for the first couple of months just doesn’t make sense for a show like AI. It does not give enough of the audience a taste of what they want to hear. We’ve already heard from the judges that they’re looking for kids that can make an impact on the entertainment scene. There is a deep pool this year of kids that have the possibility of doing just that, and I don’t think its in anyones interest to limit those possibilities.

    This is a new day, with new rules. I am not expecting the finale nor the order of single and album announcements to be like it was in the past. And why should it? They’ll do what works, and I think that’s a great thing. So give Scotty and Lauren and Haley and James and Pia and Casey a shot at a single and see what works, with the winner getting a guaranteed label contract. I think the top 6 have a good shot at getting albums made but really, album sales don’t have the power they used to. They all will be pursuing as many opportunities as they can – be it making albums, touring, acting, other TV opportunities, modeling… Bottom line for me is that I’m happy to see out of the box thinking here and especially excited to hear about more original songs being sung on the show. IMO, that is a great direction.

  • webster

    The worst part of all this is the same thing bad about the coronation songs and most Idol singles: they don’t seem to have access to good songs or good songwriters. Rushing can’t help that, either.

  • girlygirl

    All the people who won Idol deserved to win. They worked hard, they didn’t cheat, they had a lot of excellent performances on AI during their particular season and they are all talented artists.

  • tomr

    May, 2015…Haley Reinhart who? Scott McCreery who? Lauren Alaina who?

  • Mel1

    I think singles have been in the works for a handful for awhile now. I really do think Scotty and Lauren will debut their singles on their performance night, and gone are the coronation songs. For one, if Haley was in the finals with Scotty, I can’t imagine both of them singing the same coronation song (can you imagine Scotty attempting one of Haley’s songs?). With at least that in mind, they were presented with singles to suit each of them.

    The way Haley’s parents talked, it wasn’t guaranteed Haley is getting an album, just a single. Scotty and Lauren are guaranteed singles and albums.

  • songsungblue

    Or…Carrie Underwood. :) See, you never know. That’s the thing.

  • Kirsten

    To achieve the adulation.
    To reach a platform from which send your messages.
    To get the $1m contract and all the associated perks.
    To get better promotion for a few years from the idol machine.
    Pick one or more.

    Those are neither restricted to nor guaranteed to the winner. You do not have to win to get all of those and even if you do win you may not get any of them. Just ask Taylor Hicks.

    That’s why I think they should give a prize like Simon will. Obviously, the industry isn’t going to ignore somebody they think they can make money off of and 19Alphabet makes a bazillion dollars, so share some of the wealth (especially after cheeping out on the tour pay this year and paying everyone the same amount)

  • webster

    I do wonder how many of those who think this is a wonderful thing would feel that way if it was Lauren booted at number three? I am so willing to bet we would be hearing a lot about how unfair that “the chosen one” was getting an opportunity that no one else on idol has ever gotten before.

    This same wonder was posted many pages ago, and it would seem that most people’s view on the fairness is related to how they see AI, not the individual contestants.

    That said, there are probably some liking it, who would not, if it were Lauren or James. And there are probably some hating it, who would not, if it were Lauren or James. One thing I’ve learned is that fans can turn anything into a competition, even when the competition is over.

  • BrandoC15

    Tomr- Haley Reinhart, the International Megastar! You know, the one that’s already won 11 Grammy’s and has had 13 Billboard #1’s!?! You mean you DON’T know her?!?!?!

  • CindyM

    In talking about why bother to win, let’s not forget the winner also gets the Ford deal and the Disney deal. I think those are worth a couple of extra $100,000.

    There’s no Ford deal. Kris got a deal with Ford, but Lee didn’t. Kris obviously fit the demographic and image Ford wanted to go with, so they contracted with him. It’s not a guarantee.

  • OldHag

    The way Haley’s parents talked, it wasn’t guaranteed Haley is getting an album, just a single. Scotty and Lauren are guaranteed singles and albums.

    I think Haley should get an album, matter of fact I look forward to it. I think she should get a featured solo/duet cover song at the final. What I don’t think is right is if she gets to sing an orginal song in the finals. THAT should be reserved for the winner.

  • Willis

    I think this is a smart idea. While a celebrity duet would be nice, singing a new original song has the possibility to launch her post-idol career on a (sure to be) high rated finale.

    I don’t think there is such a thing as “fair” when it comes to Idol. The entire purpose of this show is to sell us things. The contestants are the entertainment. Drama is created to get us to tune in again. Really, the results show is nothing more than a one-hour commercial to sell us drink, cars, computers, phones, concert tickets, Universal CD’s, movies, good will for oil companies, and other FOX TV shows. Now Nigel has stated that the show producers and Jimmy’s group operate with their own separate interests. Jimmy’s only goal is to make money. I think he could care less what Idol traditions are being broken. Haley’s fans must be making him money. Now he has a perfect chance to see if there’s more money to be made. He’ll get my $1.29. Remember, he’s no accident ;)

  • OldHag

    There’s no Ford deal. Kris got a deal with Ford, but Lee didn’t. Kris obviously fit the demographic and image Ford wanted to go with, so they contracted with him. It’s not a guarantee.

    If Scotty wins he would be a good choice, if that is their rationale.

  • JayJ

    I do wonder how many of those who think this is a wonderful thing would feel that way if it was Lauren booted at number three? I am so willing to bet we would be hearing a lot about how unfair that “the chosen one” was getting an opportunity that no one else on idol has ever gotten before.

    I wouldn’t be offended at all. Honestly, I would be intrigued to hear what her single would be like. I may not be a huge fan of hers, but that doesn’t mean I don’t want her to become “successful.”

    Also, I think a lot of people here are looking at success in one certain way. Success is such a relative term. While I think it’s great to be at the top of the charts, that doesn’t necessarily mean great music. Sometimes it takes years to build your fanbase, and become a big hit.

  • Nina1

    they don’t seem to have access to good songs or good songwriters. Rushing can’t help that, either.

    I’m hoping Iovine’s presence will help this. He has worked with the clients enough to know who they are and what suits them.

  • merkureye

    Whatever single is released by Haley, let’s just hope it is not something rushed just to get it to Itunes. If the song is as awful as Siobhan Magnus’ “Beatrice Dream”, it could end her career before it even gets out of the gate.

    There is a big difference in covering already successful and familiar songs and creating your own vibe as an artist. It’s not that easy and some songwriters/publishers are very hesitant to give untested artists their best stuff.

  • randomjoe

    To achieve the adulation.
    To reach a platform from which send your messages.
    To get the $1m contract and all the associated perks.
    To get better promotion for a few years from the idol machine.
    Pick one or more.

    Those are neither restricted to nor guaranteed to the winner. You do not have to win to get all of those and even if you do win you may not get any of them. Just ask Taylor Hicks.

    Sorry, I guess that wasn’t clear that was slightly tounge in cheek. Basically winning has been devalued over the years.

  • koshka

    That’s why I think they should give a prize like Simon will.

    No, just please no. I already think that “Idol Gives Back” should be the official title. Idol and its backstories would become its own charity. A couple of sob stories and people would be throwing out more pity votes than they already do. This realization just made me scared about X factor.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I loved her style. She’s one of the few that HAD style, IMO. And Haley Scarnato? I don’t think so. Haley S. was never taken remotely seriously. Haley R. was taken VERY seriously.

    Agreed. Mostly, I liked her style. Even on the much-maligned Gwen Stefani week (although I kinda liked the stylings that week, but fashion, like taste in music, is subjective. I was not a fan of Lauren’s endless string of long dresses, mullet or prom.

    As for Paul, why is it thought he’s getting a single? Has there been any indication of that? Did I miss something? I thought he was just shacking up with a C-list actress waiting for the tour?

  • MrDuffin

    All the people who won Idol deserved to win. They worked hard, they didn’t cheat, they had a lot of excellent performances on AI during their particular season and they are all talented artists.

    But they was not the best singers of the season. They got the WGWG vote just like Scotty will. Four in a row is not a coincidence…..it is a joke that AI watchers are laughing about.

  • koshka

    I don’t think there is such a thing as “fair” when it comes to Idol. The entire purpose of this show is to sell us things. The contestants are the entertainment. Drama is created to get us to tune in again. Really, the results show is nothing more than a one-hour commercial to sell us drink, cars, computers, phones, concert tickets, Universal CD’s, movies, good will for oil companies, and other FOX TV shows. Now Nigel has stated that the show producers and Jimmy’s group operate with their own separate interests. Jimmy’s only goal is to make money. I think he could care less what Idol traditions are being broken. Haley’s fans must be making him money. Now he has a perfect chance to see if there’s more money to be made. He’ll get my $1.29. Remember, he’s no accident

    THIS^^^^ and don’t forget my new ‘favorite’ boy band… IL VOLO!!! LOL

  • tomk

    At the end of the day (as we all know), American Idol is all about making money. It’s not always about fairness.

    Haley received 25 million votes in the F-3 and was told the vote was close. She has received a lot of positive feedback from many around the industry, and has a celebrity following. Led Zeppelin allowed her to use a song, Adam Lambert has been pretty obvious with his feelings, etc. A lot of people thought Haley was set up for failure in the F-3; I thought it was the opposite: They gave her Stevie Nicks & Alanis because they wanted her to cover famous people and create even more of a buzz; and it worked. When you read stuff online, most of the buzz about her is positive – a smaller percentage is negative. But hardly ANY of it is neutral.

    The producers would be crazy to *not* try to capitalize on her while the iron is hot. I am actually a bit surprised they haven’t tried this in the past with “other” contestants who didn’t get to the finale but may have a shot to be something in the industry.

    Let’s not forget that Scotty is going to Nashville – and Lauren is probably heading in a similar direction. They’ll make their money doing their thing – Idol is trying to see if they have a Top 40 type of artist on their hands. So they’ll let her perform a new song, put it out on itunes, and follow it. If it catches on while the Idols are on tour, they’ll sign her up once the tour is over. If not, they’ll weigh their options.

    I think it is a brilliant move, personally.

  • OldHag

    But they was not the best singers of the season. They got the WGWG vote just like Scotty will. Four in a row is not a coincidence…..it is a joke that AI watchers are laughing about.

    They still deserved to win simply because that is what happened.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    I don’t think there is such a thing as “fair” when it comes to Idol. The entire purpose of this show is to sell us things. The contestants are the entertainment. Drama is created to get us to tune in again. Really, the results show is nothing more than a one-hour commercial to sell us drink, cars, computers, phones, concert tickets, Universal CD’s, movies, good will for oil companies, and other FOX TV shows. Now Nigel has stated that the show producers and Jimmy’s group operate with their own separate interests. Jimmy’s only goal is to make money. I think he could care less what Idol traditions are being broken.

    Yes, yes and yes. I’m not sure who broke the old way of doing things, but I’m guessing Jimmy is a bit more savvy than Clive about the best time to strike the market. Or what consititutes a good song. Or a hit. The two don’t always mesh, unfortunately.

    I guess the verdict is out on Jimmy’s success with these kids, but I have no problem with him trying something new. And for the top three to sing original songs (with the two top winners getting the traditional contracts) during finale week seems a way better way to keep interest going than waiting until after the tour. Or singing cover songs on Ellen (love her though).

  • Mel1

    I loved how Haley dressed. She has the perfect body to show off shoulders, cleavage and great legs. Look at how J-Lo dresses.

  • randomjoe

    Whatever single is released by Haley, let’s just hope it is not something rushed just to get it to Itunes. If the song is as awful as Siobhan Magnus’ “Beatrice Dream”, it could end her career before it even gets out of the gate.

    There is a big difference in covering already successful and familiar songs and creating your own vibe as an artist. It’s not that easy and some songwriters/publishers are very hesitant to give untested artists their best stuff.

    But Iovine’s picks for Haley have been pretty good. He seems to “get” her. You(umlat) and I was a great match for her (even though not a good choice for 1st single). Rhiannon was excellent (many thought it was the better than the Zeppelin cover) and could have been great if she had more than 1:30-2:00.

    Only “Call Me” which we assume was a Iovine pick was a problem; the real problem there was the deep identification with D.Harry stylized version. I’ve seen said that technically she did a good job on the vocals and that the studio was actually a modern reinvention (of song that didn’t need really it unfortunately).

    [By the way, that’s part of her attraction — she can bring classics into the modern age. This was also part of Adele’s attraction.]

  • Inconnu

    The title of this thread is misleading. Haley’s dad is saying that ‘she’s recording as we speak’ and her mom adds that ‘she’ll probably sing it at the Finale’. The only accurate thing we know is that Haley is recording a single, not that she’ll sing it at the Finale.

    (Haley’s mom also is the one who said that Led Zep contacted AI to offer Haley their songs (I just watched the clip), which was the other way around (AI approached Led Zep).

    ETA: And I totally agree with this and many here who welcome a change in Post-Idol marketing and music releases:

    So give Scotty and Lauren and Haley and James and Pia and Casey a shot at a single and see what works, with the winner getting a guaranteed label contract […….] Bottom line for me is that I’m happy to see out of the box thinking here and especially excited to hear about more original songs being sung on the show. IMO, that is a great direction.

  • Trina

    Funny how this is wonderful and completely fair, yet there was a big stink over the possibility of a 4th place finishers homecoming getting shown because it would take the shine off the Top 3…

    Anyway I dont think James has anything in the works with UMG mainly because the way hes talking almost seems completely 180 from the direction Jimmy was pushing him on the show, however..

    The way Haley’s parents talked, it wasn’t guaranteed Haley is getting an album, just a single. Scotty and Lauren are guaranteed singles and albums.

    In one of the early post-elimination interviews when he first talked about hearing his potential single he did add that a single doesnt necessarily mean a record contract, it sort of sounded similar to what is being said here. He didnt say who sent him the song though.

  • merkureye

    @pj

    As for Paul, why is it thought he’s getting a single? Has there been any indication of that? Did I miss something? I thought he was just shacking up with a C-list actress waiting for the tour?

    pj, I thought the same thing. Who says Paul is getting a single? I thought I saw a thread on MJ’s that stated that Paul’s new girlfriend was dragging him around LA to meet her industry contacts to try and get him a record deal. Apparently Jimmy is not interested.

  • songsungblue

    Paul said he was doing a single when he did his media tours, and I think he is. However, that is different from a deal, and I think he’d like that to be with the Grand Magnolias. Besides, you can get a better deal the more people who are interested in signing you.

    I read that about Nikki Reed trying to get him a contract, and I doubt that’s literally true. There’s a lot of hostility towards her from silly Twilight fans and Paul seems to be getting hit by that too.

  • tomr

    BrandoC15…lol…what an imagination! You must live in a fantasy world.

  • CindyM

    Trina says:
    05/22/2011 at 8:17 pm

    Funny how this is wonderful and completely fair, yet there was a big stink over the possibility of a 4th place finishers homecoming getting shown because it would take the shine off the Top 3…

    Yeah, but let’s be fair. People are pissed that Haley got to have her dad play guitar for her on stage yet when James got Zack and no one else did, it was all peaches and cream. It’s the idol bubble, what can you say?

  • rihannsu

    If there was no Ford deal for Lee I think that had more to do with the fact that the decision to offer that would have been made after the near meltdown of the auto industry. The contracts for the S8 deal with Ford was done before the worst part of the meltdown and there was much criticism of the fact that deals such as that were being done as the auto industry was asking for bailouts. Ultimately Ford didn’t have to take govt money but they still took flack for many of their sponsorship deals and I believe the cut back on a lot of them due to public perception but the S8 contracts were already in progress.

    Beyond that the fact that the show has a relationship with an entirely different record company and also has made drastic changes in the show means that there is very little from past years that can be guaranteed to remain the same. Any arguments based on what occurred in prior years hold little or no weight in the context of where we are now. Many of the things that the public perceived as being benefits or rewards of winning were based on assumptions of how things should be or how things appeared after the show was over rather than on things that were contractually obligated. For instance contractual obligation was to a record deal valued at $1million dollars for x number of albums with advances of x dollars. That is really a pittance because the first album advance for the winner was stated to be $350k so all they have to do is spend $750k additional to fulfill that contract. I don’t think we have ever had a published contract to determine what level of promotion was contractually obligated but the generally accepted cost of radio promotion alone for 1 Pop single is about $1million. So I would venture to say that the majority of Idol winners to date have actually received a higher level of promotion than the record company was strictly obligated to provide. The company can always spend more on the project and record companies are notoriously good at running up production costs on album projects but I would be willing to bet that every single winner has in fact at least gotten the minimum that the record company was contractually obligated to provide and that how far over that they were willing to go has always varied from person to person.

    Yes I am aware that many have complained that they didn’t get what they felt they were owed but if the truly had a firm legal leg to stand on they would surely have been able to challenge that in court. I fully expect that any and all contracts are written to the advantage of both the show and the record company and I understand that the contestants are required to sign contracts with 19M and 19E to be on the show but this is a free country and bottom line is that if you have a problem with any or these contracts you can choose not to go on the show in the first place. Anyone in this day and age that isn’t aware of the risks deserves whatever they get. If you are going to be in the industry and you don’t learn to read a contract and make a decision then you get what you deserve. Life is not and never has been fair. Artist have been being screwed over by record companies for 70 years now so ignorance is no excuse.

  • randomjoe

    Funny how this is wonderful and completely fair, yet there was a big stink over the possibility of a 4th place finishers homecoming getting shown because it would take the shine off the Top 3…

    A lot of traditionalists felt that way. But others didn’t. I thought allowing the homecoming, especially since it was logically possible, was an important way of starting the process of building closure for Durbin fans.

    Would not be surprised to see more of such in the future as it re-engage those folks for this or the next year.

    In fact, I believe some of the Haley stuff going on is closure for her fans.

    People get emotionally invested and AI seems to have recognized the importance of dealing with the ‘grieving’ (sorry to overstate it) process when the contestant leaves. This in itself seems like a major step up. (Of course, one might be cynical and speak of squeaky wheels.)

  • http://www.huckleberryfriendmusic.com/ huckleberryfriend

    We’re only talking $1.29 for a download, so I doubt if Haley’s song would affect either Lauren’s or Scotties sales. An album maybe, but not a single.

  • clickchick

    I seriously doubt five minutes of Haley singing a new single will steal the thunder of the winner and the runner up. She isn’t singing after they announce the winner or on the final performance show. iTunes numbers don’t lie – Iovine obviously smells money on this girl and wants to capitalize ASAP.

    Regarding the volume of buzz over Pia’s boot – of course there isn’t as much shock with Haley leaving 3rd. Leaving 3rd is practically winning these days. Leaving 9th is barely making the tour. Pia was expected to win by almost every bookmaker in Vegas so of course the early boot was a surprise and generated news. However, I don’t see this as a valid point of comparison in terms of who will ultimately succeed post-Idol.

  • tomr

    Haley is no J-lo and never will be. Similarly, James is no Steven. None of them will come anywhere near those levels of success.

  • BrandoC15

    Tomr, it was just a little joke, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see it happen!! Well, yeah, I would. But it’d be a PLEASANT surprise! :D

  • littlefishie

    Haley is no J-lo and never will be.

    Thank goodness for that.

  • Trina

    Oh there was totally a huge rantfest over the Zakk Wylde thing. All over Twitter that night Zakk was trending for a while and 50% of that was some form of “holy shit Zakk Wylde!! Um is he selling out?” and the “other 50% was who the fuck is James to warrant this kind of special treatment”. Tons of cries of unfairness were all over the AI forums. James had to explain that he asked for Zakk, and people were still annoyed. FTR I find nothing wrong at all about Haley’s dad playing with her.

  • Cari

    Wouldn’t it be interesting if this year they had everyone in the Top 10 or 5 (or whatever number they chose) all perform new singles on the finale? Then they would put the songs on iTunes, see who sells, and then sign those people…

    I don’t think it would be a great idea, but I could see Idol doing it (and it would certainly be different!)

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Haley can sing better than J-Lo, but J-Lo wins hands down in the looks category at this stage. Of course, she wasn’t as sophisticated looking in the beginning.

    Sonsungblue, thanks for clearing that up about Paul. I haven’t watched any of the interviews, just gleaning stuff from headline threads and chatter on here. Did Casey say the same thing?

    I did hear they were signing Pia and she was already recording (what I thought was an album). IS that true?

    I will say I think all the kids are trying to win. I just think some have different strategies. Playing it safe and staying in the zone is one. Trying new things and showing versatility is another. Both have worked in the past.

    As for Paul, I think the rumors of his vocal issues must be true because he could hardly squeak out some notes when he sang with the girls. He might not have been able to show us everything he has, which might be why the judges were so nice to him. I hope he’s gotten treatment before the tour.

  • webster

    Funny how this is wonderful and completely fair, yet there was a big stink over the possibility of a 4th place finishers homecoming getting shown because it would take the shine off the Top 3…

    ??? But lots of people don’t think this is fair, and plenty of people don’t mind if they show some of James homecoming. Like pretty much everything, opinions come down on all sides. But that’s pretty obvious, so what am I missing?

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Yes, I remember people complaining about Hulk Hogan, too. ;-) And Zach. And Scotty’s Gram, etc.

    People always complain. Idol bubble and all that.

  • merkureye

    Pia was expected to win by almost every bookmaker in Vegas so of course the early boot was a surprise and generated news.

    I wonder on what basis bookmakers thought Pia would win? She obviously wasn’t that popular since she went out 9th place.

  • moadms

    They released a single by Chris Medina. Why should anyone find it odd that they release singles by some that made it to top 12.
    Jimmy said early on that he would do this in some interview.

    Paul tweeted he was in the studio recording after he was voted off. That’s why I think he’s getting at least a single. He also tweeted about the possibility of an EP. James mentioned he might have already heard his first single.

    The music industry has changed drastically in the last 10 years.
    Change or die. Same with Idol.

  • BrandoC15

    Umm, Haley KILLS J-Lo in looks. No matter if she’s dressed up for a wedding or just got outta bed. J-Lo wears wayyy too much makeup IMO. She’s still a looker, but Haley was absolutely STUNNING in Rhiannon. She truly looked like a superstar during that performance, and the wind machine didn’t hurt either! Lol, JMO

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Pia created a lot of buzz by hanging out with Mark Ballas, too.

  • OldHag

    Yes, I remember people complaining about Hulk Hogan, too. And Zach. And Scotty’s Gram, etc.

    People always complain. Idol bubble and all that.

    We are comparing some kid’s grandma with Hulk Hogan or jamming with a legendary guitarist? ROFLMAO!!! That is one heck of a grandma. That is stretching it…. really stretching. Could we have at least brought up Josh Turner instead?

    Oh – let’s not forget marching bands and flaming pianos either.

  • tomr

    BrandoC15 lol took it as a joke…agree that any huge success out of Idol would be a huge surprise. Their track record is pretty abysmal. But we’ll be back on this rollercoaster again next year I’m guessing. And it will be different again because I’m guessing that we’ll see all new judges. We can only hope. This year’s crop (judges AND finalists) will be mostly forgotten by then.

  • tomr

    BrandoC15 you’d better get your eyes checked tho!

  • CRB

    The music industry has changed drastically in the last 10 years.
    Change or die. Same with Idol.

    I suspect that the music industry currently is well into the process of doing both, are those mutually exclusive?

  • BrandoC15

    Tomr- JLo is too powder-puffy. Yes she is beautiful, it just seems she’s not comfortable with all the makeup and crap on. Haley is naturally beautiful. She looks great in anything and never seems outta her comfort zone. Her eyes are mesmerizing(sp?) and she has a killer body. Ooo and she competes with Paul for whitest teeth and best smile of the season

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    We are comparing some kid’s grandma with Hulk Hogan or jamming with a legendary guitarist? ROFLMAO!!! That is one heck of a grandma. That is stretching it…. really stretching. Could we have at least brought up Josh Turner instead?

    Oh – let’s not forget marching bands and flaming pianos either.

    Not speaking to whether I believe these complaints are founded or whether they are equal in stature, just that if there’s a perceived “special treatment” it will be noted in the Idolsphere.

    ETA: Oh, and Scotty’s gram makes my point better than Josh Turner if you think about it. ;-)

  • OldHag

    Not speaking to whether I believe these complaints are founded or whether they are equal in stature, just that if there’s a perceived “special treatment” that it will be noted in the Idolsphere.

    I agree PJ and it just busts me up sometimes. I emphasize sometimes. I will say that this year there have been more incidents of blatant “propping” going on than I have ever seen in the past. There have been some incidents of absolutely glaring pimpage going on too. What it really accomplishes is flaring up the fan wars. Which gets buzz going all over the internet and that is really what they want. We are all such suckers.

  • askew3

    I knew that Nigel was exaggerating about Haley’s deal. He’s just trying to get her fans to not boycott the finale.

    Haley fans just have to hope that enough people buy her song, so she can get an album deal.

  • tomr

    BrandoC15- well I’m glad I won’t have to share her with you. lol I hope Haley looks that great when she’s 42. Of the contestants this year, Karen did it for me.(although in the pics of rehearsal posted today she looks sick).

  • chrislongisland

    Best news ever! Love that Haley gets an original song, and love that she got it on her terms. She’s savvy, sexy, and gutsy til the end.

    TEAM HALEY!!!!!

  • tomr

    At this point in the competition, I think most have already decided whose original music they are going to purchase. Are there really that many of us Idol Addicts that are still on the fence?

  • ReginaFilange

    Haley’s one of the most viable hitmakers to make the top 3 or 4 in a while, I can see why they want to pimp her. Scotty and Lauren will sell albums, but aren’t likely to make the top 40 (unless Lauren takes a very Taylor Swift career path).

    The song sounds good, I’ll be buying it.

  • Swind

    I’ll be buying it ASAP!

    Team Growl FTW!!!

  • merkureye

    tomr says:

    Of the contestants this year, Karen did it for me.

    Funny you say that. I thought Karen Rodriguez really looked pretty when she went away from the frizz and straightened her hair. Saw her post-boot interview on Ryan Seacrest Show (courtesy of MJs of course) with straight hair and coupled with her personality I thought she was really attractive.

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    This year’s crop (judges AND finalists) will be mostly forgotten by then.

    Sure about that? Damn, this show just has no point. We should just ask them to cancel it.

  • aislinn

    On the contrary, I have loved Haley since the beginning and I find this news annoying. I love the Idol game despite its aggravations and I want people to want to win. I want people to want there favorites to win. There has to be some advantage to winning and this news whittled away one of the last advantages to making it to final 2.

    And do you really get the impression that any of these kids(other than maybe Paul) didn’t want to win really badly? Casey was shaken and then blown away by his initial ouster and save, James was devastated, Haley was clearly disappointed, and Lauren completely gleeful. I don’t see any of this undermining their desires to win the show.

  • Tess

    Haven’t read the entire thread (late to the party) but I am amazed that Haley’s parents are spilling the beans, right and left. I thought all family members had to sign a non-disclosure agreement with AI…I would think this would include spoilers, etc.

    Also I am curious as to who footed the bill when it came to Hailey’s Dad performing with her. Why would idol cover plane tickets, etc. Actually, for me, even though I enjoyed his playing I thought it was rather cheesy that he got to participate. But then he is a professional musician so an equity card was no problem, I guess.

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    For all we know, Haley could get a Grammy someday. Stranger things have happened. I remember people scoffing at the very IDEA that Katharine McPhee would ever make it as an actress, and the thought that she would get a pilot picked up would have caused belly-rolling laughter.

  • tomk

    ReginaFilange –

    Exactly. Timing is everything, and this is all about keeping Haley in the spotlight while everyone is still buzzing about her. The music industry, like the rest of the entertainment world, is fickle. If they simply wait until the Idols are done touring, people will already be buzzing about “X-Factor”. “The Voice” will have crowned a winner, and even “Platinum Hit” will be in the minds of some.
    Most of these people will indeed be forgotten within a few months – especially when the X-Factor starts airing. Getting Haley out there now is smart. I think we saw a bit of a change on how Idol runs things when they let Pia do DWTS. They no longer want potential players in the music industry to tie themselves down after elimination – they want them to remain front and center. We’ll see if it works – if indeed this crop of contestants can buck the Idol trend.

  • tomr

    MahlerFan…soon enough. It does entertain us for a few months and lets us get into these deep important discussions.

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    Haven’t read the entire thread (late to the party) but I am amazed that Haley’s parents are spilling the beans, right and left. I thought all family members had to sign a non-disclosure agreement with AI…I would think this would include spoilers, etc.

    Also I am curious as to who footed the bill when it came to Hailey’s Dad performing with her. Why would idol cover plane tickets, etc. Actually, for me, even though I enjoyed his playing I thought it was rather cheesy that he got to participate. But then he is a professional musician so an equity card was no problem, I guess.

    Again, I am personally acquainted with Ace Young’s mother (just saw her today). There is no non-disclosure agreement. They can say whatever the hell they want. “Plane tickets?” Are you serious? He was in the audience every week.

  • tomk

    Tess –

    All of the parents were flying in for the show anyway – no special treatment was given to Haley’s dad in that regard. Plus, Idol played it fair by doing studio audience interviews with Lauren’s and Scotty’s parents.

    Haley wanted to do the segment with her dad – it added a nice touch, and if she indeed never does make it in the music industry, just think of how much of a memory that will be for her to last a lifetime.

    As far as PDA, you would think they would have gotten in trouble for telling the world what Haley was going to be doing in the Top-3 show. You know what I think it is? I think it is again Idol *wanting* this stuff leaked. Again, I think Idol wanted people to know that Haley was doing Zep, Stevie, and Alanis on performance night before it even started. I think the show has gone in a whole new direction where it isn’t just about who wins; it’s about who is discovered during the process.

  • Mtlfan

    yay for the single!!! :)
    Very obvious to me that if Haley is to perform one a single, the same will happen with Lauren and Scotty

  • Cari

    Again, I am personally acquainted with Ace Young’s mother (just saw her today). There is no non-disclosure agreement. They can say whatever the hell they want. “Plane tickets?” Are you serious? He was in the audience every week.

    But… Didn’t some guy last season almost get kicked off the show during Hollywood week because his dad blabbed? Does anyone remember this?

  • http://wwpv.smcvt.edu VAidolFan09

    Well this just ruined the finale for me. I thought I was done seeing her on my tv screen…

  • randomjoe

    All of the parents were flying in for the show anyway – no special treatment was given to Haley’s dad in that regard. Plus, Idol played it fair by doing studio audience interviews with Lauren’s and Scotty’s parents.

    Actually, they pay for their own travel. There were stories about how Haley’s parents got donations (selling t-shirts, etc.) from the community to help them defray travel costs. But yeah, he was flying in that week anyway. [Both facts from the council meeting that leaked the song list].

  • OldHag

    But… Didn’t some guy last season almost get kicked off the show during Hollywood week because his dad blabbed? Does anyone remember this?

    Yes. Was it Big Mike? But I do think it had more to do with him reveling that he made it – which meant that the contestant told someone. Which violated the contract he signed. Since he wasn’t a minor his Dad didn’t sign it also – that only happens with minors.

  • CRB

    VAidolFan09 says:
    05/22/2011 at 9:53 pm

    Well this just ruined the finale for me. I thought I was done seeing her on my tv screen…

    You must be watching this show for the first time if you thought the third place finisher wasn’t going to be included (and usually featured fairly prominently ) in the finale.

    Reconciling someone with the screen name VAidolFan09 with a total lack of Idol history is difficult…are you two years old?

  • satchvai

    VAidolFan09 says:
    05/22/2011 at 9:53 pm
    Well this just ruined the finale for me. I thought I was done seeing her on my tv screen…

    Yah need to get over that sentiment because I have a feeling you won’t be done seeing that sassy little stoner anytime soon.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    But… Didn’t some guy last season almost get kicked off the show during Hollywood week because his dad blabbed? Does anyone remember this?

    Yes, it was Mike Lynch, who went on to get the judges save and made the top four. :-) They sure were mad at him. Ahem. Perhaps that was another one of Idol’s publicity stunts?

    I have no idea what sort of papers the parent’s have to sign. Sounds like none, if Ace’s mother is correct (don’t know why she wouldn’t be) as long as your child is an adult. I imagine someone under 18 would have to get parental signatures on their disclosure agreements.

  • raynevville

    Yes, it was Mike Lynch’s father, but the circumstances were different. It was spoiling the top 24 – which is a big no no. Phil Stacey almost was disqualified season 6 because one of his commanding officers in the army (or was it navy?) leaked that he was a finalist and was given leave. Neither one had any control over the leaks, so I think they let it slide.

  • tomr

    Well it’s time for some better “leaks.” What guests will be performing other than Lady GAAAAAG? How will the top 13 be paired up? Will Jennifer, Steven, or Randy be joining any of them? What else might Jimmy and/or Nigel have up their sleeves? When will next season’s new judges be announced? Etc. Etc. Etc.

    Can’t wait until Thursday when I won’t ever have to see a certain mother ever again! This might be the highlight of the week.

  • OldHag

    Can’t wait until Thursday when I won’t ever have to see a certain mother ever again! This might be the highlight of the week.

    Awww… Mrs. McCreery seems like such a nice lady.

  • weareallinnocent

    There is a big difference in covering already successful and familiar songs and creating your own vibe as an artist. It’s not that easy and some songwriters/publishers are very hesitant to give untested artists their best stuff.

    I agree with this generally and it concerns me for Haley (and anyone else debuting singles this seek for that matter.) But, imo, Haley did a fantastic job on Gaga’s unreleased You and I, so hopefully she’ll get a good song that suits her.

    Someone up thread said all winners deserved to win because, among other things, they all had “a lot of excellent performances.” I have to admit that I’m struggling to remember all of that excellence respecting Lee, what with all that singing in the key of Lee and those bagpipes and all. But, yeah, otherwise, sure. :-)

    P.S. pj, big Mike didn’t get the save, did he? I thought that skinny jazzy dude got it – the name escapes me, proving what so many here have been saying about memories and fleeting moments… heh.

  • OldHag

    P.S. pj, big Mike didn’t get the save, did he? I thought that skinny jazzy dude got it – the name escapes me, proving what so many here have been saying about memories and fleeting moments… heh.

    Yeah, Big Mike got it last year. Matt Giraud got it the year before.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Hmmm. Wereallnnocent, I don’t remember a skinny jazzy guy, so perhaps I am fuzzy in my memory, too, but I could’ve sworn Big Mike got the save. Will have to check.

  • ross

    If there was no Ford deal for Lee I think that had more to do with the fact that the decision to offer that would have been made after the near meltdown of the auto industry. The contracts for the S8 deal with Ford was done before the worst part of the meltdown and there was much criticism of the fact that deals such as that were being done as the auto industry was asking for bailouts. Ultimately Ford didn’t have to take govt money but they still took flack for many of their sponsorship deals and I believe the cut back on a lot of them due to public perception but the S8 contracts were already in progress.

    I think girlygirl replied to another post, answering this. There was no reason to expect a Ford deal for Lee. Kris’s four ads for the Ford Fusion, that aired repeatedly during Season 9, were unique and did not represent some kind of deal for a current Idol winner. (The only time another winner did a Ford ad was Taylor Hicks’ 30-second Model Year Clearance ad in 2006).

    There was considered to be “brand alignment” between Kris and Ford, as indicated here.

    http://blog.epollresearch.com/tag/kris-allen/

  • Kirsten

    P.S. pj, big Mike didn’t get the save, did he? I thought that skinny jazzy dude got it – the name escapes me, proving what so many here have been saying about memories and fleeting moments… heh.

    I think you are thinking of Matt from Season 8. The three saves were Matt, Mike and Casey.

  • weareallinnocent

    Whoops, didn’t watch all of the “worst season evah!” My bad. Go big Mike! :-)

    Yes, Matt! Thanks Kirsten.

  • tomr

    Not her, She’s just another old hag lol.

  • halo9125

    Also I am curious as to who footed the bill when it came to Hailey’s Dad performing with her. Why would idol cover plane tickets, etc.

    Plane tickets? I’m wondering if they even paid him – and if they did, I would imagine it would be whatever union scale is for musicians. I doubt it’s very much, and given the way air fares are going through the roof, I doubt the man turned a profit.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Oh, yes, Matt. I saw his save live! It was fun and a feel good moment, although I don’t like the save in theory. I was just looking over the contestants from Big Mike’s season and trying to figure out who the skinny jazzy guy was.

  • merkureye

    The only time another winner did a Ford ad was Taylor Hicks’ 30-second Model Year Clearance ad in 2006.

    Don’t know if Carrie did any Ford ads during S4 (2005) of AI but, I know she definitely was awarded a Ford Mustang as the winner.

  • OldHag

    tomr says:
    05/22/2011 at 10:21 pm
    Not her, She’s just another old hag lol.

    Which means she is pretty darn awesome. :) Don’t you wish other “stage parents” acted like Mrs. McCreery or Allison’s mom from last year? Of course, no one touches Papa Archuleta.

  • webster

    At this point in the competition, I think most have already decided whose original music they are going to purchase. Are there really that many of us Idol Addicts that are still on the fence?

    Given that sales almost never seem to match show popularity, I’d say most addicts haven’t even seen the fence, let alone climbed over it.

    I watch every year and almost never buy any of the product. And the ones I have bought, when I’ve somewhat regretted in that I never listen to them. For me, the big hurdle is taking a good singer with some style, and getting them some good material and good production. None of the ones I’ve really liked have done that yet.

    So for me, it’s never will I buy this person or that person, but will I buy any of them. This year, I think Haley and James are most likely to do something I’d like. Maybe Casey, if he hires a good vocalist. But, I’m not counting on liking any of them enough to buy more of. I think, down the road, Crystal is likely to make something I’d like. And Adam could, if he gets a taste transplant.

  • merkureye

    I watch every year and almost never buy any of the product.

    Suggestions: Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, Jennifer Hudson, Chris Daughtry.

  • Lucy1234

    Saw this on twitter, probably just guesses but who knows.

    1 Scotty McCreery-Angels
    (Robbie Williams)-Producer’s Choice

    2 Lauren Alaina-Back to December
    (Taylor Swift)-Producer’s Choice

    3 Scotty McCreery-Your Man
    (Josh Turner)Audition Song

    4 Lauren Alaina-Like We Never Loved at All
    (Faith Hill) Audition Song

    5 Scotty McCreery-Flying High
    Winner’s Song

    6 Lauren Alaina-Tomorrow’s World
    Winner’s songSee More
    22 minutes ago · Share

  • NOLA

    2) It doesn’t sound like they are definitely going to release this single, so maybe we are getting our panties up in a wad for nothing? She may sing it on the show? Sounds like a lot of “if’s” to me.

    pj, I agree with you. They could be recording these songs, while everyone is there, and then possibly release them after the tour, which would make a lot more sense to me. Too many unanswered questions to get upset over, YET.

    I read somewhere that Debra Byrd (vocal coach) said they (AI) had to request permission for the LZ song for Haley. If that is true, and I don’t think Debra Byrd would lie, then the parents are putting out false information…(the story said Haley was contacted by LZ to perform their song; not so, says Debra Byrd.)

    I want to wait and see what the truth is on this matter.

  • Kirsten

    Saw this on twitter, probably just guesses but who knows.

    Unlikely. I’ve never heard of contestants doing audition songs for their repeat song on the show (let alone both of them doing their audition song).

  • BeachBum

    Here we go again! My idol is gonna be a BIG star since he/she received 25 million votes… and all the positive “buzz”… and the prior idols LOVE him/her… blah, blah, blah. I’m sure by now most people realize that the majority of viewers only watch AI for entertainment – NOT to determine the next successful recording artist. I like Haley, but if you’re an obsessed fan, it’s a good idea to go into post-idol with lowered expectations regardless of what “everyone” is saying. Otherwise, depression may set in as the days, months and years go on. People need to understand that only a few of all the idols have achieved what would be considered “stardom”. As far as the single goes, hopefully everyone can see right through the intentions. They only care about capitalizing on the temporary fame of the contestants by releasing a new single and telling all the fantards that IF it sells well, they MAY get an album… CHA CHING!!! I wouldn’t be surprised if very few of the current or future idols get to release full albums anymore. The track record just isn’t that good. On a positive note, All of them have been given a once in a lifetime OPPORTUNITY. To become the next “big star” or even have moderate long-term success, it will take A LOT more than one successful single… Or 25 million “votes”… Or positive internet buzz… Or being Adam’s favorite idol THIS season. Rock on Haley!!

  • tomr

    OldHag…you are so right but my all time favorite was Anthony Fedorov’s mother from the old country. Loved her!

    Webster…I’m a pushover. I have cd’s from Kelly, Clay, Latoya,Jennifer H., George, Jon Stevens (I know but he was a local boy), Kellie, Jordan, David A., and Kris. Anthony’s is finally coming out soon and I’ll get that and I’m still hoping for Aaron. I’ve also been to 5 of their concerts. What can I say…I’m an addict.

  • Mel1

    I bought three albums in S8: Adam, Kris, and Allison. Also got Adam’s acoustic EP and Glam Nation dvd. Don’t know if Kris put out any eps. None S9. Hopefully several albums, eps S10.

  • tomr

    BeachBum…ITA!!!!!!!!!!

  • NOLA

    I dont think she would be the only one to sing an original if thats the case.

    You know they are not going to single her out over Pia or James…
    Hoping Nigel plays a fair game. He doesn’t want to piss off the majority of these fans.

    @dizzyfeet
    Nigel Lythgoe
    don’t worry I’ve got a great surprise for “durbinators” on the finale!!!

  • Lucy1234

    This entertainment site also has the same 6 songs listed for Scotty and Lauren Tuesday, hmmm

    http://www.theentertainmentlifestyle.com/2011/05/scotty-mccreery-lauren-alainas-final.html

  • Trina

    That tweet from Nigel was in response to someone asking him to let James duet with a major rock star, so most of us are assuming the “surprise” is related to that.

  • JayJ

    Haley is no J-lo and never will be. Similarly, James is no Steven. None of them will come anywhere near those levels of success.

    Umm. Haley can sing. So you’re right, I guess. Jlo has the looks, but seriously her music sucks. AI definitely gave a boost to her career.

  • Buffynut

    I think James is going to sing with Steven. They don’t need the whole band there. Steven and Carrie killed it when they did the duet last month. Steven is the voice and face of Aerosmith. He’s written the songs. Joe Perry only needs to be there for the Aerosmith purists and I’m sure none of them are watching the Idol finale.

  • YeahRight

    BeachBum says:

    Here we go again! My idol is gonna be a BIG star since he/she received 25 million votes… and all the positive “buzz”… and the prior idols LOVE him/her… blah, blah, blah. I’m sure by now most people realize that the majority of viewers only watch AI for entertainment – NOT to determine the next successful recording artist. I like Haley, but if you’re an obsessed fan, it’s a good idea to go into post-idol with lowered expectations regardless of what “everyone” is saying. Otherwise, depression may set in as the days, months and years go on. People need to understand that only a few of all the idols have achieved what would be considered “stardom”. As far as the single goes, hopefully everyone can see right through the intentions. They only care about capitalizing on the temporary fame of the contestants by releasing a new single and telling all the fantards that IF it sells well, they MAY get an album… CHA CHING!!! I wouldn’t be surprised if very few of the current or future idols get to release full albums anymore. The track record just isn’t that good. On a positive note, All of them have been given a once in a lifetime OPPORTUNITY. To become the next “big star” or even have moderate long-term success, it will take A LOT more than one successful single… Or 25 million “votes”… Or positive internet buzz… Or being Adam’s favorite idol THIS season. Rock on Haley!!

    Oh, BeachBum, I bow to you and this post because you are so right. I haven’t even read through the rest of the thread yet, but I know it’s full of Haley fans getting all kinds of excited and saying that she’s going to be the next big star off of Idol. That is too soon to call. You need to be a realist. Go into it with lowered expectations. Just because the internet loves her; all of the past Idols love her; and because she’s Adam Lambert’s favorite does not equal huge success.

    So, yes, BeachBum, totally agree with you. You are so right.

  • argie

    Haley is no J-lo and never will be. Similarly, James is no Steven. None of them will come anywhere near those levels of success.

    I seriously hope Haley never becomes a JLo or I will do some MAJOR MAJOR Boycotting of her. LOLL.
    I don’t know if this is the sentiment of all Haley fans, but I personally feel that whether she becomes a huge star or just a regular ‘ol youtube star or just an open mic night singer… I’ll likely follow and buy her stuff ‘cuz her voice is just that awesome.
    Of course, I do prefer the “huge star” option because then she’d be in the public eye and I’d get to see the awesome clothes she’d wear. LOLLL.

  • JayJ

    I seriously hope Haley never becomes a JLo or I will do some MAJOR MAJOR Boycotting of her. LOLL.
    I don’t know if this is the sentiment of all Haley fans, but I personally feel that whether she becomes a huge star or just a regular ‘ol youtube star or just an open mic night singer… I’ll likely follow and buy her stuff ‘cuz her voice is just that awesome.
    Of course, I do prefer the “huge star” option because then she’d be in the public eye and I’d get to see the awesome clothes she’d wear. LOLLL.

    Argie…I think you nailed it. I would so hate if Haley took that route. Regardless about all this hoopla about the finale, I will be following her career. I like her, and her style. I don’t think you can define numbers with great music. Although, it would be awesome to see her become huge–that stuff rarely happens over night. Whatever happens, I just hope she gets some good music out.

  • littlefishie

    I haven’t even read through the rest of the thread yet, but I know it’s full of Haley fans getting all kinds of excited and saying that she’s going to be the next big star off of Idol.

    Actually, most of us are just happy that she’s getting a single and that Idol/Jimmy is striking while the iron is hot.

  • weareallinnocent

    Oh, BeachBum, I bow to you and this post because you are so right. I haven’t even read through the rest of the thread yet, but I know it’s full of Haley fans getting all kinds of excited and saying that she’s going to be the next big star off of Idol. That is too soon to call. You need to be a realist. Go into it with lowered expectations. Just because the internet loves her; all of the past Idols love her; and because she’s Adam Lambert’s favorite does not equal huge success.

    LOL Well, sadly on this rainy dreary day, I did read this entire thread. And, I don’t recall anyone saying anything remotely close to what you and BeachBum assume that they did. Just goes to show ya… :-)

  • NOLA

    Yes, I remember people complaining about Hulk Hogan, too. And Zach. And Scotty’s Gram, etc.

    People always complain. Idol bubble and all that.

    I think we are all assholes.

  • soverymel

    Oh, BeachBum, I bow to you and this post because you are so right. I haven’t even read through the rest of the thread yet, but I know it’s full of Haley fans getting all kinds of excited and saying that she’s going to be the next big star off of Idol.

    Well, I’ve actually bothered to read through this whole thread and other than two or three extremely optimistic posters, that is not what people are saying at all. In fact, most of the more than 300 comments aren’t even about Haley, but the inherent fairness/unfairness of the “rules” of Idol and how they may all be changing with Interscope’s involvement.

  • McCreerian

    May, 2015…Haley Reinhart who? Scott McCreery who? Lauren Alaina who?

    Doubt that. Country has longitivity.

  • McCreerian

    But they was not the best singers of the season. They got the WGWG vote just like Scotty will. Four in a row is not a coincidence…..it is a joke that AI watchers are laughing about.

    I wouldn’t count Scotty as one of the typical WGWG. First, he is not soft rock/Adult contemporary like the other three. Second, he is not in his 20s like the other three. Big difference. Scotty is way different from the other three(Thank god).

  • NOLA

    Well this just ruined the finale for me. I thought I was done seeing her on my tv screen…

    I feel your pain.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Well, Tuesday will be the Scotty and Lauren show, so I personally am looking forward to seeing many of the top 12 in the finale on Wed, including Miss Reinhart. ;-)

    This may be the first season that there wasn’t a single kid who didn’t rub me the wrong way, except for perhaps boring me. Well, I did call my hometown boy Paul creepy at times, but mostly in jest. Plus, I find that my reactions often change once the season is over and I can observe them outside of the TV show. Kellie Pickler comes to mind.

    That said, I lost so much interest last season that I have paid absolutely no attention to that crew except to know that people are deeming Lee the “worst selling winner” and that Crystal married someone who wasn’t her boyfriend. Oh, and Casey James is touring, but hasn’t yet released anything.

    I actually didn’t see auditions or Hollywood this year, mainly because last year was such a snoozefest. Kudos to Nigel for sparking my interest again.

    Also, regarding the albums… I think it would be wise to take time making an album, but why not put singles out there for the top contestants that aren’t annoying coronation songs and let them sing them on tour? It will keep interest up and this year they will have to compete with the peeps from the Voice and Xfactor.

    And yes, give them both individual songs that fit their styles. Let’s not see this again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaWjstT2qOI

  • songsungblue

    Yeah. I get that. Because I can’t wait till Scotty McCreepy is just a footnote in Idol history….I’m guessing six months from now, but it’ll be a long six months. Sigh. What a bore that kid is, IMO.

    I’m not sure how Haley will do in the market [not that it keeps me up nights or anything]. She’s definitely got the drive, which is half the battle, and she records surprisingly well. The thing she really has in her favor is that she doesn’t remind me of anyone else.

    Crystal married someone who wasn’t her boyfriend

    In all fairness, Crystal married a guy who she had known for many years, and trusted enough to babysit her son while she was on tour. I got the impression they’d always had a crush on each other and never acted on it. :)

  • BeachBum

    Perhaps I was “reading between the lines” of many of the comments… Just trying to help the newbie fantards. Haven’t we all gone through the “healing” process of having to lower our expectations (unless you’re a Carrie fan – at least for now)?? Perhaps they need to start a professional “assistance” program for recovering obsessed AI fans!? It would be like going to an AA meeting where you get up and tell everyone you’re a recovering fan of former AI contestant _______ (fill in the blank).

  • tomk

    All Beachbum did was take pro-Haley quotes, mix them all together, and make it look like this was a big Haley fanfest. None of that is true.

    I was just stating some facts, personally – she did get 25 million votes, afterall – I didn’t make that up. And my only point was that AI would be very smart to strike when the iron is hot on any contestant – which is why they don’t mind Pia doing stuff on competing shows like DWTS. Which is why they may just try something new with Haley. It isn’t etched in stone…nothing official has been announced. And my point wasn’t really just about her – if *ANY* of these contestants would have finished in third and been a part of the highest vote total ever in the Final 3, I bet they would consider doing something like this for ANY of them.
    Do I like Haley? Yes. Am I one of those who thinks she is going to be this huge superstar that is going to release hit after hit and bring world peace while doing so? Not even close. I may never buy a thing from her – and we may never hear from her again.
    I was only stating the facts – it is Beachbum who twisted and turned the notes in this thread to make it look like everyone was bowing to Queen Haley.

  • McCreerian

    Yeah. I get that. Because I can’t wait till Scotty McCreepy is just a footnote in Idol history….I’m guessing six months from now, but it’ll be a long six months. Sigh. What a bore that kid is, IMO.

    Keep dreaming! Both the winner and runner up this year is being managed by Simon Fuller. He will keep them in the spotlight. Nobody is forcing you to buy his music. There will be A LOT of fans who will buy his album the minute it comes out-myself included. I love when people don’t like somebody they automatically assume they will “flop.” With the sales of Lee Dewyze, they can’t go anywhere but up.

    People called Carrie Underwood boring too, but look where she is now. There were even people calling foul when she beat the more “exciting” performer, Bo.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    He will keep them in the spotlight. Nobody is forcing you to buy his music. There will be A LOT of fans who will buy his album the minute it comes out-myself included. I love when people don’t like somebody they automatically assume they will “flop.” With the sales of Lee Dewyze, they can’t go anywhere but up.

    I thought I remembered seeing an article that he would manage the winner. Must have missed the runner-up statement.

    Either way, I think he’s managed people who haven’t hit it big. I wouldn’t make any bold predictions for any of them just yet. Much will depend on the material they are given.

  • weareallinnocent

    People called Carrie Underwood boring too, but look where she is now.

    Now she’s rich and boring. So much so that she had a huge fugly truck built to float in over the audience while she sings — no doubt to add a little excitement to her performance. lol I kid, I kid. (But, still couldn’t resist… That was the most absurd thing I’d ever seen. And, maybe what Lauren and Scotty have to look forward to! ;-) )

  • McCreerian

    I thought I remembered seeing an article that he would manage the winner. Must have missed the runner-up statement.

    Yeah, in the official press release it said runner up also.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Now she’s rich and boring. So much so that she had a huge fugly truck built to float in over the audience while she sings — no doubt to add a little excitement to her performance. lol I kid, I kid. (But, still couldn’t resist… That was the most absurd thing I’d ever seen. And, maybe what Lauren and Scotty have to look forward to! ;-) )

    Didn’t watch the awards tonight, but I have to say I was one who called her boring on the show. But at least I didn’t call her trache-boy as I did Federov. Or wife-beater, as I did Savol. Or sleazy, as I did Constantine.

    Looking back, that was a great season. Lot’s of stuff to snark on…

    But, this is a classic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug8FQ7lsXtg

  • Ratna12

    But they was not the best singers of the season. They got the WGWG vote just like Scotty will. Four in a row is not a coincidence…..it is a joke that AI watchers are laughing about.

    Oh dear, did I just sleep through the Idol finals ?
    I did not know that Scotty already won the title.

    I think that all Idol winners are winners . Period.
    Until I found this site after S8 ended, I’ve never known that a winner could be considered a “loser”.

    Either Scotty or Lauren will win S10 and that person deserves to win that show. I think ones of the people who are happy that those 2 go to the final are their parents. They don’t have to (help) buy them their first cars.

  • YeahRight

    May, 2015…Haley Reinhart who? Scott McCreery who? Lauren Alaina who?

    2015? 2012.

    And BeachBum, don’t you go back on what you said. You’re still right.

  • girlygirl

    Simon Fuller isn’t really going to be personally managing Scotty or Lauren. Just like he doesn’t do the hands-on management of Carrie or Adam or Kris or Chris Daughtry or David Cook — or any of the other Idols who have/had “Simon Fuller” listed as one of their managers. They will likely be handled on a day-by-day by one of the people who work for Fuller. He will oversee stuff and occasionally meet with them and/or put out press releases in which he’s quoted about them, but the majority of the management work will be done by someone else.

    Even if Fuller was personally managing them, he hasn’t been able to keep all the people he has on his artist roster in the spotlight, so there’s no guarantee he will be able to do this for Scotty and/or Lauren.

  • OmahaCookie

    Moving this here from headlines thread:
    Anybody see this guy on twitter:

    @davidfmusic David Filice
    Playing on the American Idol finale this Wednesday with Bono and The Edge!!

    and this guy:
    @JerryRoe Jerry Roe
    Biggest session I ever did this past Friday. You’ll hear my efforts on the radio on Wednesday, a day after a certain show’s season is over.

    This guy (OLP drummer) replying makes it sounds like it is an idol song he’s talking about:
    @taggart7 Jeremy Taggart
    @ @JerryRoe congrats brother. Now you’ll be Idol-ized. No I Carly this time!

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Actually, I finally watched the actual video and I don’t know they spilled anything. Nigel already spilled that Jimmy had played him a song for her “record.” We knew that already. Her parents didn’t say she was performing a song, but that she’s recording one. That we knew. “Playing” it on the show could mean them showing a brief clip of her singing it in the studio or something. Of course, these are semantics. Maybe they were giving strong hints by saying “maybe.” LOL. I would say nothing they did was out of line.

    Oh, and I gather they are doing a show at a Relay for Life event? Way to help out and keep everyone awake. Kudos to them.

    Oh, and to the person who said Mr. Reinhart is a big deal in the local Chicago music scene, let me tell you I lived there for 18 years and never heard of the dude. He is probably playing gigs in crappy suburban dives.

  • NOLA

    @JerryRoe Jerry Roe
    Biggest session I ever did this past Friday. You’ll hear my efforts on the radio on Wednesday, a day after a certain show’s season is over.

    Same guy as below?

    FOD would like to extend a warm and fanatically crazy welcome (oh, they will find out…) to David Archuleta’s two new band members, Jerry Roe (drums) and Dave Filice (bass).

    Jerry and Dave will join Mike Krompass (guitar and music director) and Kendra Lowe (keyboards) on the 2009 summer tour.

  • NOLA

    Maybe James is performing with Bono.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Methinks James is performing with Steven and Bono and the Edge are doing their own thing. Maybe we’ll get more leaks tomorrow. I wonder if Josh Turner will show up. I’d rather them pair Scotty with someone female, though.

    I never understood why Jason had to reprise Hallelujah and didn’t get a star to sing with. Bless his heart, he seemed more nervous than the first time he sang it.

  • sooziequsie

    The first song picked by the American Idol producers for Scotty is “Angels” by Robbie Williams. The song was written by Robbie himself together with Guy Chambers.

    Really? Didn’t David Archuleta sing that? These Brits are still trying to copy the European success of that song here and have decided to go country? giggles

    While we are all speculating.. Steven likes the girls, he’s gonna sing with one or more of them. He has commented that he really liked Naima.

  • NOLA

    OmahaCookie says:
    05/23/2011 at 1:42 am
    Moving this here from headlines thread:
    Anybody see this guy on twitter:

    @davidfmusic David Filice
    Playing on the American Idol finale this Wednesday with Bono and The Edge!!

    and this guy:
    @JerryRoe Jerry Roe
    Biggest session I ever did this past Friday. You’ll hear my efforts on the radio on Wednesday, a day after a certain show’s season is over.

    This guy (OLP drummer) replying makes it sounds like it is an idol song he’s talking about:
    @taggart7 Jeremy Taggart
    @ @JerryRoe congrats brother. Now you’ll be Idol-ized. No I Carly this time!

    Really? Didn’t David Archuleta sing that? These Brits are still trying to copy the European success of that song here and have decided to go country? giggles

    So, now I wonder if they are playing with Scotty

    NM. The guy says playing with Bono. This is wierd.

  • Grammie Kari

    I never understood why Jason had to reprise Hallelujah and didn’t get a star to sing with.

    I always felt that was a reward for staying so upbeat during the Paula fiasco. His being so laid back saved much embarassment for the show. Bless him.

  • vartan

    the thing is haley is more promising and has much more international following.

    america’s muti-voters can swallow the whole of these country kids but for the rest of the world who did not have the power to vote, we love haley. my friends in europe were rooting for her so as my other friends here in Asia. looking forward to more of her music

    –haley fan from the Phils =)

  • OmahaCookie

    NOLA, I think they’re talking about two different things, one guy playing w/ Bono, one guy working on a song w/ someone for radio. But I wouldn’t jump to conclusions on what song for radio. And who knows what to believe on twitter :)

  • NOLA

    I know Cookie, it’s confusing

  • EmyR

    Just trying to help the newbie fantards.

    Fantards? How classy.

  • randomjoe

    Woah, the comments have definitely drifted.

    Story made the New York Post.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/haley_already_recording_single_6dAngcMUnofT6azWIBDuwO
    Haley already recording single
    Post staff writer
    Last Updated: 3:47 AM, May 23, 2011
    Posted: 10:54 PM, May 22, 2011

  • samgamgee

    Wow, Haley’s mother is as good as her. I’m really diggin their raspy sound. Can’t wait for Haley’s single.

  • kmd

    I think if Scotty sings the Angels song that is a mistake. I have heard Archie sing Angels a number of times and other than Robbie Williams his version is just unbelievable. Archie kills it with his vocal range. Cook even was really impressed with Archie’s version. Scotty would get comparisons to Archie and he is no David Archuleta. Angels is not a country song. Jessica Simpson proved it with her awful version of Angels.

  • Jae

    If this is true, I am curious to hear how a country version of this sounds.It could be a great choice for Scotty if he does it right. He and Archie are so different, I don’t think you will be able to compare.

  • lucy

    Wouldn’t it be interesting if this year they had everyone in the Top 10 or 5 (or whatever number they chose) all perform new singles on the finale? Then they would put the songs on iTunes, see who sells, and then sign those people…

    I would like that. But I don’t think it meshes with the apparently kinda true truism that we hear so often during the season: “Well, that performance didn’t work at all because the audience didn’t know the song ….” ……………And we hear that even about songs that are a bit familiar, just not way familiar. …. That leads me to think that the tv and studio audience might not be very entertained by a massive evening of songs that they don’t know at *all.* …

  • chrislongisland

    The only albums I would buy are from Haley, James, and Casey. Period.

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    Perhaps I was “reading between the lines” of many of the comments… Just trying to help the newbie fantards. Haven’t we all gone through the “healing” process of having to lower our expectations (unless you’re a Carrie fan – at least for now)?? Perhaps they need to start a professional “assistance” program for recovering obsessed AI fans!? It would be like going to an AA meeting where you get up and tell everyone you’re a recovering fan of former AI contestant _______ (fill in the blank).

    There is certainly a great deal of truth in this, but if it were completely true, the show wouldn’t stay on the air. I use the example of Katharine McPhee. I remember howling laughter at the prospect of her trying to be a successful actress (this was mostly from the disciples of the soul patrol who fed into the wave of anti-Kat hysteria shortly after the season, when she missed the first part of the tour, etc.) Back then, the very IDEA that she would be in a pilot picked up by a major network would have been laughed to scorn. Will Haley win a Grammy? Who knows? Will I be interested enough to buy her record? Sure. Will she be dropped by the label? Maybe, but why not try? Why not be optimistic? If EVERYBODY was going to get dropped, nobody would get signed, and yet they keep getting signed. Honestly, the cynicism is just as over-the-top as the optimism.

    As far as what parents can say–Ace’s parents were sending out email blasts to friends regarding his post-Idol plans, etc., well before the finale aired. I had asked his mom about the tour when the initial list came out and Denver wasn’t on it. She told me that Ace was promised a date in Denver and that it would happen, and that was well before the Denver date was added to the S5 tour. Obviously spoiling the Top 24 is a big no-no, but when the child is not a minor (and Haley is not), they can’t really restrict what the parents say at this point. If they cared that much, Harry Reinhart would have never been on that stage.

    And let me take this opportunity to bitch and whine that while Denver WAS included on the “worst season ever” tour, THIS season, when I’m actually interested, the closest we can get is SLC or KC? This is ridiculous. We’re the most major metropolitan area between Arizona and Missouri (and all points north), and we get a tour stop in S5 and S9 (we were skipped S2-4 and S6-8 and again now). We have teams in all four sports leagues, and it’s too much of a burden for AI to bring the tour here? I’m not bitter, no I’m not…but it keeps happening every year (except for the worst season ever), and it’s hard not to be depressed about it.

  • Landmd

    I hope this news is true! I want to buy music from Haley, if she gets to sing it on the final great if not no big deal. I just want it released!! Now waiting on any news of Paul, James, and Casey getting singles!!

    This just might be Mr. Dizzyfeet trying to get us to watch the show Wednesday, not gonna get me to watch Tuesday tho. I plan on watching clips here of Tuesday show. So thank you in advance MJ for watching and recaping the show!!

  • Allison

    I’m really looking forward to Haley’s song, but I am am surprised it has generated 15 pages of comments so far.

  • chrislongisland

    I have purchased EVERY single Haley Reinhart studio recording, and I will BUY EVERY single Haley Reinhart song / album that comes out, provided she continues to show guts and stay true to herself.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    And let me take this opportunity to bitch and whine that while Denver WAS included on the “worst season ever” tour, THIS season, when I’m actually interested, the closest we can get is SLC or KC?

    To be fair, if they are on a tour bus, it’s not close to any other venue.

    That said, according the the TMZ article that states they are all making 1K no matter where they place (not sure I buy that), they will be flying coach to each destination and staying in hotels. I think they’ve always stayed in hotels, but traditionally they have traveled by bus, mostly.

    They aren’t coming to Alabama, either. Probably won’t get to see it.

  • Buffynut

    We’re the most major metropolitan area between Arizona and Missouri (and all points north), and we get a tour stop in S5 and S9 (we were skipped S2-4 and S6-8 and again now). We have teams in all four sports leagues, and it’s too much of a burden for AI to bring the tour here? I’m not bitter, no I’m not…but it keeps happening every year (except for the worst season ever), and it’s hard not to be depressed about it.

    Also, Denver is a major connecting airport from points west to east, so it wouldn’t be that dificult, I would think to schedule! I am not in Denver but I feel your pain.

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    I’m really looking forward to Haley’s song, but I am am surprised it has generated 15 pages of comments so far.

    That’s telling right there.

    That said, according the the TMZ article that states they are all making 1K no matter where they place (not sure I buy that), they will be flying coach to each destination and staying in hotels. I think they’ve always stayed in hotels, but traditionally they have traveled by bus, mostly.

    By bus, only about 8 hours from SLC. But for the fan, it’s difficult to live in a large major city like Denver and be skipped so often. Sure, they’re not coming to Alabama, but I’m guessing you have a venue that’s a lot closer to you than SLC or KC is to me.

  • http://twitter.com/cara_lee pj

    Sure, they’re not coming to Alabama, but I’m guessing you have a venue that’s a lot closer to you than SLC or KC is to me.

    Yes, about 3 hours. Not something I would do for a concert unless I stayed overnight.

  • Buffynut

    FOD would like to extend a warm and fanatically crazy welcome (oh, they will find out…) to David Archuleta’s two new band members, Jerry Roe (drums) and Dave Filice (bass).

    Jerry and Dave will join Mike Krompass (guitar and music director) and Kendra Lowe (keyboards) on the 2009 summer tour.

    First, what is FOD? And why has no one commented on this as far as the Tour goes?! This would give the tour a whole new band and musical director than it’s had the past 3 seasons!!

    Oops. never mind. This is for a David A. summer tour? Not the Idols tour, right?

  • http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~hansenkd/BrahmsGuides MahlerFan

    Yes, about 3 hours. Not something I would do for a concert unless I stayed overnight.

    Well, 3 hours I’d do. 8 hours crossing the continental divide, and for opening night (Salt Lake is the closest I could get), when things will probably be rough…not as easy to justify.

  • AddictedToMars

    There will be A LOT of fans who will buy his album the minute it comes out-myself included. I love when people don’t like somebody they automatically assume they will “flop.” With the sales of Lee Dewyze, they can’t go anywhere but up.

    People called Carrie Underwood boring too, but look where she is now. There were even people calling foul when she beat the more “exciting” performer, Bo.

    Scotty and Lauren can’t go anywhere but up after Lee’s sales. They may not have the successes of Carrie Underwood right out of the gate but they will both sell better than Lee and Kris. I find it sad that people would like to see these contestants fail and flop in sales because they don’t appeal to them. You don’t have to buy their music but they have plenty of fans who will. I just can’t wish for a contestant to flop because they weren’t my favorites during the season.

    The online blogs and the real world can be two different things. Bo had an strong online fanbase and if you were just looking at that he would’ve won. Carrie got a lot of hate on the AI forums and blogs during her season and there were people saying she didn’t deserve to win but whether she’s boring or not (I don’t think she’s boring, I think she’s grown a lot in her performance skills over the years. She’s a seasoned performer) Carrie has as much success as Kelly Clarkson and those 2 will probably always remain as the 2 main success and most popular winners in Idol history.