Fantasia Hospitalized After Overdose on Combination of Asprin/Sleep Aid

I am praying she’s okay, because she has a little girl who needs her mother.

This is not the type of publicity she wants going into a PR campaign for her new album. Fantasia — it aint that serious.

But on another note, she has been feeling the pressure as shown on her TV show of having to support a family that doesn’t work…she’s the sole support….and maybe this romance was very serious on her part.

Fanny — it aint that serious!

What is she taking medication for? Anyone know.

Wow. I hope this is the low point for ‘Tasia and she can recover from this, move onto greener pastures and get her life and career in check. I never like to hear about ANY Idol going through hard times, especially to this extent.

This is just so sad.

This is really sad. She seemed so joyful and happy during her idol run. I hope she finds some stability soon.

OMG… so scary. Hope she’s okay. Is she still with this guy?

How does a suicide attempt make her self-involved?

Just realized the previous comment about her being self-involved was deleted.

Ugh, how sad, I hope she can bounce back from this and get herself together. Her little girl needs her :(

Fantisia is NOT WELL. I hope this cry for help will set her on the path to success in her personal life.

All the best Fanny, BE STRONG!

I hope there is someone in her life that she can sit down with and have an honest conversation with and who will be real with her.

I’m praying for her. I don’t think Fantasia was well-equipped to handle everything that came about as a result of her winning Idol. It is such a shame. Hope she heals and can get some help.

I hope she’ll recover and wil manage to get her life in control again.

She needs to step away and get her life together. Letting things get this dramatic and unstable is not what she owes her child.

Gosh, I hope that Fantasia will be OK and this was an accidental overdose and not a suicide attempt.

But on another note, she has been feeling the pressure as shown on her TV show of having to support a family that doesn’t work…she’s the sole support

I don’t follow Fantasia at all. How many people is she supporting besides herself and her daughter?

WBTV confirms that Fantasia tried to commit suicide last night:

Wow. We just don’t ever know what’s going on inside. I hope that she can get the help she needs to deal with the pressures that drove her to this. Sad.

Um..nobody here smells a rat?

Fantasia + reality show about to begin it’s 2nd season + pending lawsuit over stealing someone’s husband + non-life threatening overdose = lots of publicity for the show.

What do you bet those cameras are rolling at the hospital.

koshka:
08/10/2010 at 3:12 pm
What is she taking medication for? Anyone know.

This won’t answer your question, but it is possible to overdose on OTC meds. It doesn’t necessarily mean she was prescribed anything.

There are so many places for people to get help with this sort of thing. I hope she does.

There are so many places for people to get help with this sort of thing. I hope she does.

I hope she does, too. She clearly needs it.

Um..nobody here smells a rat?

Fantasia + reality show about to begin it’s 2nd season + pending lawsuit over stealing someone’s husband + non-life threatening overdose = lots of publicity for the show.

What do you bet those cameras are rolling at the hospital.

I confess that entered my mind, but in this case, I don’t think so. Although the cameras may be there, somehow I think that taking an overdose of meds just for publicity would be way too risky.

OH Fantasia. Think of your little girl. Get through this. Be strong. Youve fought all your life, keep fighting.

Um..nobody here smells a rat?

No amount of publicity would induce me to ingest enough medication to cause “possible internal injuries”… maybe I’m just a lot more risk averse than Fantasia, but I mean, what if I inflict permanent damage on myself? Every body is different and reacts differently under stress/overdose. What if I thought I ingested just enough to send me to the hospital and garner publicity, but instead, I go into shock, slip into a coma, or accidentally KILL MYSELF. LOL, I could never do one of those Jack Bauer faked deaths where they stop my heart and then bring me back to life with some injection. Fantasia must be really brave or reckless to risk her own life for PUBLICITY… JMO.

What a train wreck. The cynic in me wonders if this was about getting some sympathy pub.

somehow I think that taking an overdose of meds just for publicity would be way too risky.

I know I sound cynical but lots of women have taken that risk with a lot less motivation than Fantasia currently has….I’m talkin’ huge ratings for a tv show.

Can you get internal injuries from ingesting too much helium?

I think something is obviously very wrong with her and this is not about publicity. She should see medical professionals like a psychiatrist here. This happens to many people.

North Carolina has Alienation of Affections and Criminal Conversation laws and it is fairly common for a woman to sue her husbands lover. After the comment Fantasia made to the wife, I wouldn’t be surprised if the wife sues her for everything she’s got. I also wouldn’t be surprised if the wife won either.

Fantasia has made some horrible life choices. I don’t blame it on her lack of education; many brilliant people have fallen prey to shysters. (Hello Bernard Madoff) I really, really hope she can find someone to trust that has her best interests at heart.

I don’t believe she od’d for publicity but given the scrutiny she’s under for her own bad behavior I can’t dismiss the possibility that this was more of a suicide gesture (non lethal, good chance of being found) than a real attempt to check out.

She needs help and I hope there’s someone in her life who is ready to give her a lasting dose of tough love. If they continue enabling her or feeding into her belief that people are being unfair or are out to get her, she’ll never grow up.

Fantasia must be really brave or reckless to risk her own life for PUBLICITY…

Not publicity. Money! Huge ratings mean more money.

This won’t answer your question, but it is possible to overdose on OTC meds.

This. And it seems like this may be the case as they are worried about internal damage. OTC drug overdoses can do a number on the liver and kidneys.

I guess the pressure of the scandal got to her but I just don’t see this as an option Fantasia would take. She has had a lot of challenges in her life and Fantasia has always been a fighter. That coupled with her Daughter who she worships again I just have a hard time thinking this is a thing she would do. I don’t think her winning American Idol has anything to do with it. Whether it was an attention getting act or a manipulation tool to gain sympathy…it is serious. She could have died. Healthy people never consider this as an option whether it is a poor attempt at attention or an actual act of giving up….my prayers are with Fantasia and especially her little girl who is the real victim in this situation. Sending pure loving energy her way!

I hope Fantasia recovers quickly… this is just so sad. She deserves nothing but the best because she is an amazing person.

Sad for her that she was in the place, but it was selfish of her because she has a kid depending on her. I hope she gets the help she needs, not the least is because as a parent, she has a kid that needs her to stick around and be healthy.

I don’t follow Fantasia at all. How many people is she supporting besides herself and her daughter?

Her mother, Aunt and brother all live with her. They stay at her mansion and she pays the bills. I can understand helping out your mother but the brother and aunt should support themselves.

On another note, I hope she is alright. It really seems like sucide because reports have said she was found in the closet.

I know I sound cynical but lots of women have taken that risk with a lot less motivation than Fantasia currently has

I’m no pyschiatrist, but I think those women have pyschological problems. I think Fantasia does as well. Attempting fake suicide (or a “suicide gesture”) with serious risks to your own life in order to garner sympathy IS a sign of psychosis/depression/etc. They don’t call it a “cry for help” because these “gestures” mean the women who attempt them are at the peak of mental health and can be left to their own devices. If Fantasia is motivated by sympathy AND money/publicity, that just adds another layer to her psychological problems. She still needs help.

Can you get internal injuries from ingesting too much helium?

Heh.. this is serious, but I admit I LOL’ed at that…

she has a little girl who needs her mother.

I wonder if she’s battling depression? I can’t imagine a mother leaving her child unless she has a mental illness altering her sense of reality.

North Carolina has Alienation of Affections and Criminal Conversation laws and it is fairly common for a woman to sue her husbands lover. After the comment Fantasia made to the wife, I wouldn’t be surprised if the wife sues her for everything she’s got. I also wouldn’t be surprised if the wife won either.

Didn’t she also go through a personal bankruptcy?

suicide gesture

Kinda laughed at that term.

What do you bet those cameras are rolling at the hospital.

Actually, if they are, then we’ll all have our answer about whether there’s been any staging in this situation. (Sure hope not, and that she recovers–mentally and physically. Her kid will take years (if ever) to get over this crap.)

Maybe she’s upset at that haircut–check out the pic at the top of the thread.

I’m no psychiatrist, but I think those women have psychological problems. I think Fantasia does as well. Attempting fake suicide (or a “suicide gesture”) with serious risks to your own life in order to garner sympathy IS a sign of psychosis/depression/etc. They don’t call it a “cry for help” because these “gestures” mean the women who attempt them are at the peak of mental health and can be left to their own devices. If Fantasia is motivated by sympathy AND money/publicity, that just adds another layer to her psychological problems. She still needs help.

Very well said sma11ie

It strikes me that “The Anatomy of Broken” (Chris Sligh’s new album discussed in the story below this one) would be an apt title for this story as well. All the speculation about publicity doesn’t make it better….just another form of being unwell.

As someone who has struggled with depression and suicidal thoughts, I find it disgusting that some might suggest she would do this for “money,” “ratings,” or “publicity.” Yes, it appears to be a selfish thing, but those who suffer from such problems do not act out of selfishness; they act out of an utter desperation that makes them feel death is perhaps the most selfless option possible.

I dearly hope Fantasia can get her life back on track. I don’t want to see this incredibly talented woman leave us too soon.

Sparkles, she’s still young…only 22…and I don’t think there’s anybody in her family “smart” enough (like David A, or Jordin Sparks) who has business and entertainment sense that can guide her. She’s had a lot of pressure and I’m sure having the cameras roll is another pressure. I mean these reality shows pretty much dictate how a person is supposed to act, for the “drama.”

Why would she commit suicide on the eve of her cd being released? She has to go out and promote it!

No matter if it was for publicity or a legitimate suicide attempt, you’d have to be in a dark place to go this route. As sma11ie said, Fantasia is need of help, no matter how this situation came about.

Her mother, Aunt and brother all live with her. They stay at her mansion and she pays the bills. I can understand helping out your mother but the brother and aunt should support themselves.

Thanks, kk613. I agree that the Aunt and brother should support themselves (unless there are extenuating circumstances that prevent them from working). Even though I’m not a fan, I always thought that Fantasia was very talented and seemed like a nice person.

Reaction to Skanktasia’s non life-threatening overdose after getting bad publicity.

Wow, not a very good news week for Idol. Fantasia’s life seems out of control to say the least.

This girl is a train wreck. Drug overdose, affair with a married man, named in court documents because of said affair, sex tapes and I’m sure the list goes on. To me there is no excuse for her behavior. She’s trash. What she said to the wife is piggish and low class. Sorry but no sympathy from this camp. Lack of education does not excuse trashy behavior. She can’t blame her bad behavior on poverty anymore.

Thanks, kk613. I agree that the Aunt and brother should support themselves (unless there are extenuating circumstances that prevent them from working). Even though I’m not a fan, I always thought that Fantasia was very talented and seemed like a nice person.

Is being trifling and lazy an extenuating circumstance?

Is being trifling and lazy an extenuating circumstance?

Were the Aunt and brother working and supporting themselves before Fantasia won AI?

musicality:
08/10/2010 at 4:39 pm
She’s trash.

This is far too harsh for anyone, IMO. We can point to Fantasia’s poor choices as trashy–but to suggest that she’s trash means she’s of no value. While we may not care, her daughter doesn’t deserve to have her mother called trash–even if Fantasia put herself in that position.

If anything, we should hope that Fantasia learns to appreciate her value. She doesn’t seem to understand that, which is why she’s making so many bad decisions.

Sorry to be senistive, but calling someone trash rubs me raw.

This girl is a train wreck. Drug overdose, affair with a married man, named in court documents because of said affair, sex tapes and I’m sure the list goes on. To me there is no excuse for her behavior. She’s trash. What she said to the wife is piggish and low class. Sorry but no sympathy from this camp. Lack of education does not excuse trashy behavior. She can’t blame her bad behavior on poverty anymore.

Has it been established that Fantasia did have an affair with this guy, there is a real sex tape and the alleged tape of her comments to the wife is real?

Just to be clear….I never said she doesn’t need help. I never said she doesn’t have psychological problems. Clearly she does.

I questioned her motives. I questioned the amazing coincidence that all this shit is happening JUST before the beginning of the second season of her reality show.

May seem sad to some people but to me….I’m feeling a little manipulated.

Here’s hoping she gets help but I’m not feeling sorry for her.

These days you can’t help but be cynical when a project is near debut (her reality show, season 2), another project needs hype (failing album) and you might have legal trouble on the horizon (wife might sue so taint the jury pool).

A “sleep-aid and aspirin” sounds more like PR than intending suicide. That might be true anyway since many unsuccessful suicide attempts are attention seeking.

So, as it turns out Skanktasia “allegedly” had a few too many aspirin and a sleeping pill, and is now being released from the hospital. This ho-bag be foolin’ nobody. Bullshit meter blowing sky high.

I rest my case.

Fantasia is 26.

I feel sorry for this young women. I hope she gets help.

How is her album failing when it hasn’t even been released yet?

I fail to understand why one can’t apply Occam’s Razor: Publicly released lawsuit + having to deal with the ramifications of said lawsuit on her show + having to promote a new album = a lot of stress, which is one of the reasons people use sleep aids in the first place.

And even if one is being cynical: It’s not effective PR. Effective PR is being able to go out and promote an album, not being put under observation for an overdose.

I think she’s clearly made some very bad choices, but I hope for her daughter’s sake she gets the help she needs to make some good ones.

Well, it doesn’t help when her rep is pimping her album in the official statement. Seriously, that’s the least of her worries right now.

It’s not effective PR

Fantasia is not the brightest bulb in the fancy light fixture called “her life”. Neither are her handlers.

Just another in a long line of suicide-by-aspirin.

Christ. I have never liked this woman, but she’s turning dislike into something more intense. Good job, ‘Tasia.

Talk about classless – they should just insert her picture and save themselves typing a definition.

Publicly released lawsuit + having to deal with the ramifications of said lawsuit on her show + having to promote a new album = a lot of stress, which is one of the reasons people use sleep aids in the first place.

And even if one is being cynical: It’s not effective PR. Effective PR is being able to go out and promote an album, not being put under observation for an overdose.

I agree.

Well, it doesn’t help when her rep is pimping her album in the official statement. Seriously, that’s the least of her worries right now.

Also agree. Winced at that entire statement from her rep.

Just another in a long line of suicide-by-aspirin.

Sleep aids are pretty dangerous when overdosed.

I agree that the PR statement was badly worded. Seems like Fantasia needs to do some ‘spring cleaing’ and get rid of a lot of her team. They’re doing her no favors.

Fantasia is not the brightest bulb in the fancy light fixture called “her life”. Neither are her handlers.

So they are capable of getting her out to radio stations, handling the “dropped shows” and “financial drama” issues head-on in interviews, and of working a single to top 5 and top 15 on two major radio formats, and yet nobody on the team was bright enough to think that a tactic like this would backfire.

Mmmm hmmm.

A PR statement in the initial aftermath being a grave mistake is not the same as coordinating some kind of stunt to get attention. Somebody would have said something.

I think she’s just deeply troubled. And no, it doesn’t make me more inclined to buy her album.

My thoughts and prayers go out to all of those who were naive enough to believe Skanktasia’s bullshit PR stunt.

This is very sad. I have no advice for her except get some help now!! I’m glad they’re reporting she’s going home soon, which seems to mean she’s okay, but I’m praying someone close to her has her best interest in mind.
Sparkles, she’s still young…only 22…

Which means she was only 16 when she won idol? I thought she was older than that.

ETA: Oops that was supposed to backquoted not bolded.

ETAA: Thanks Shorty, I see you said she’s 26, which makes better sense to me.

My thoughts and prayers go out to all of those who were naive enough to believe Skanktasia’s bullshit PR stunt.

I don’t believe this was a PR stunt. She’s got a history of terrible decisions and fuck-ups. Fantasia clearly needs help.

But this PR statement is terrible. Making a slew of excuses for her behavior, and then pimping her album? Uh NO.

At this stage of the game her team needed to release a short statement about what happened and her current status and just left it at that.

standtotheright:
08/10/2010 at 5:12 pm

I fail to understand why one can’t apply Occam’s Razor

Because that would require one not to be so cyncial as to jump to the most tabloid-laden possibility available. And in this dog-eat-cat society, that fair-minded opinion does not apply.

I’m not suggesting that we cry for Fantasia. As many of us have mentioned, she’s made some bad choices, kept the wrong kind of company. But doesn’t mean that she’s a horrible person, undeserving of some compassion.

Those who deserve love and empathy the least are the ones who need it the most. I hope that we all keep that in mind, not just for Fantasia, but for those in our lives that may need us.

Never was a fan of Fantasia ( her speaking and singing voice are irritating to my ears) and over the years her lack of personal responsibility has been more of a turn off than anything. That said, I do feel sorry for this young woman. Hate the sin, love the sinner and all that jazz. It may be difficult but she needs to drop some of the hangers-on, including family members and grow up. She’s still very much a child raising a child. I hope she takes whatever professional help she can find and make the changes in her life to be a mentally strong, moral and healthy person

Wow! Just Wow! that pr statement was bad in not a good way. plugging the album, quoting song lyrics that was just tacky.

Fantasia needs help. She needs management that won’t put up with her stupidity and selfishness. She needs someone to “set her straight”. The woman needs to get herself out of the ghetto mentality. But most of all she needs to realize this is her life and she made these choices and now she has to live with them and move foward. Make herself better. And I understand some days you don’t want to fight “the world” but you have to if you wanna win. I wish her luck cause she is gonna need it.

Fantasia screws up AGAIN……..just before an album release and a reality tv show. Sorry but I don’t believe in coincidences…at least, not one as perfectly timed as this.

First there’s the album announcement, then the reality show’s imminent return, then the wronged wife seeks revenge, then Fantasia takes too much medication.

Maybe calling it a PR stunt gives them too much credit. Maybe this whole houseful of people are just totally fucked up!

I’m not suggesting that we cry for Fantasia. As many of us have mentioned, she’s made some bad choices, kept the wrong kind of company. But doesn’t mean that she’s this horrible person, undeserving of some compassion.

The thing is, I think most humans are overwhelming inclined to give everyone a second chance. Fantasia got her's – the support she was given on AI. An unwed young mother, on welfare, got the support of the viewers, who in reality are primarily white. She won her AI season by a mile, over a little white princess.

So many who know who she is feel they gave her a chance. And she's done nothing but blow it ever since. Oh yeah, her fans also rallied around her when she went through the bankruptcy.

But I'm sorry, the sex tape and loooooong affair with a still married man is too much. She had the success, fame, and money given to her, to make the most of. And she’s done nothing since but screw it up and continue to make bad decisions. This woman gets zero sympathy from me at this point. I could have possibly accepted the PR explanation on how she got involved with Cook – “he lied to me” – but she’s still involved with him, after almost a year, and HE’S STILL MARRIED. So the PR claptrap is just that – claptrap. Just one more lie to her fans.

Ugh. She can sink or swim on her own.

Sorry to be senistive, but calling someone trash rubs me raw.

I agree with your entire post.

I’m no pyschiatrist, but I think those women have pyschological problems. I think Fantasia does as well. Attempting fake suicide (or a “suicide gesture”) with serious risks to your own life in order to garner sympathy IS a sign of psychosis/depression/etc. They don’t call it a “cry for help” because these “gestures” mean the women who attempt them are at the peak of mental health and can be left to their own devices. If Fantasia is motivated by sympathy AND money/publicity, that just adds another layer to her psychological problems. She still needs help.

I agree with your entire post as well.

Can you get internal injuries from ingesting too much helium?

LOL. Normally, you would pass out before you ingested too much helium. Obviously, if you passed out in a room full of helium, you would die. Normally, there are no rooms full of helium.

I don’t think you can say that viewers gave Fantasia a second chance during her idol run. I’m sure that very few of her voters viewed it as that, I knew very little of her background when I supported her back in season 3.
Her story during idol was very similar to Crystal’s this season…poor single mom, looking for a better life. One busked in subways, the other sang in churches. Both were my favorites in their respective seasons, but I liked them because of their talent, not because I felt like my vote would give them a better life.

She needs help.

Miss Blue:

Fantasia got her’s – the support she was given on AI. An unwed young mother, on welfare, got the support of the viewers, who in reality are primarily white. She won her AI season by a mile, over a little white princess.

I don’t think she won by that much–I’ve heard 2%. I don’t know if that’s true–someone feel free to correct me if needed.

But I was under the impression that most AI viewers held Fantasia’s unwed mother, no high school diploma, poor etiquette status against her–she wasn’t “qualified for Idol” is what many suggested. One can read a lot into what was suggested about Fantasia during her Idol run, but we’re not discussing socio-politics.

Again, Fantasia needs to mature A LOT. I haven’t seen one comment that has suggested otherwise. Some of this maturation should have happened already. It hasn’t. There’s likely 50 reasons why this is. And if anyone wants to wash their Idol hands of Fantasia, so be it. It’s not like I’m a huge fan, either. There’s a lot of bad stuff coming out about Fantasia’s situation–I suspect some of it is true.

But I’m not there and I don’t know what’s going on with Fantasia. But I do hope for her daughter’s sake, if nothing else, Fantasia figures out herself and move forward. Everyone deserves a chance to move forward, no matter what the rest of us think about that. But that’s just my two pennies.

Fantasia will be stronger, smarter, and better for it. Her work has always inspired her and served as a source of strength. Her new album, “Back To Me,” will be released on August 24th.

No, I do have advice for her, get a new PR person!! Wow, just wow!

I could not believe my eyes reading her representative’s statement to the press. That was in such poor taste.

I think someone needs to call Oprah and have her fly her shrink in to help set Fantasia straight. Maybe send a business manager and hard ass personal assistant to watch over her. I only suggest this because Oprah appeared to be a huge supporter of her.

I don’t condone anything Fanny has done, but the girl was in over her head from the start. She was ill prepared to deal with any of her fame, particularly being a functional illiterate. She was only 19 when she won AI and an adult by law, but her mental and emotional age was much younger.

I feel sorry for her. I hope she gets help. Doing a reality TV show is a really poor decision for her own and her child’s well being.

Just another in a long line of suicide-by-aspirin.

You can actually die from an overdose of asprin. According to Medline, it can take as little as 20 pills. Heck, you can OD and die from drinking too much water. Everything in moderation.

Still, I imagine it was the sleep-aids that were the issue.

I don’t believe this was a PR stunt. She’s got a history of terrible decisions and fuck-ups. Fantasia clearly needs help.

But this PR statement is terrible. Making a slew of excuses for her behavior, and then pimping her album? Uh NO.

At this stage of the game her team needed to release a short statement about what happened and her current status and just left it at that.

I totally agree. I just read that statement and it was NOT what was needed in this situation. The pimping of her album was a huge mistake, then immediately following it with:

Fantasia sends her praise to God and her eternal gratitude to her fans, friends, and family.

God is good.

appears incredibly manipulative to me. So Fantasia’s being released from the hospital already? I’ve now become rather cynical about this whole “suicide” attempt.

she has a little girl who needs her mother.

I wonder if she’s battling depression? I can’t imagine a mother leaving her child unless she has a mental illness altering her sense of reality.

I agree. I have a son who suffers from depression which is mostly controlled with medication but when he’s at his worst his personality changes completely [ he says he wants to feel better but can't] – therefore because of chemical changes in his brain he is incapable of thinking “normally” when in this state [ it is impossible to just snap out of it!!]
So this very well could be the case with Fantasia. She needs supportive people around her , giving her the right advice which doesn’t seem to be the case.
I just hope for her daughter’s sake that she will now get the support she needs.

I don’t think she won by that much–I’ve heard 2%. I don’t know if that’s true–someone feel free to correct me if needed.

I don’t think we know ANY winner vote totals for any of the finales. Lots of rumors but nothing precise. I think the only time they even hinted at percentages was between Taylor, Kat and Elliot. Other than that, they’ve kept the winner’s total pretty much a secret.

mj? You’d certainly know better than I would.

I thought I was the only cynical one. The thought did cross my mind that the story of her affair was being brought into the news for some publicity, since she does have the show and cd coming up. I don’t know what to think now as it does appear to be more serious than that. Though I do think that if she was really suicidal they wouldn’t release her from the hospital so soon.

I too think the part of the press release mentioning her album was inappropiate given the circumstances and at least this part of it is some manipulation.

I don’t think we know ANY winner vote totals for any of the finales. Lots of rumors but nothing precise. I think the only time they even hinted at percentages was between Taylor, Kat and Elliot. Other than that, they’ve kept the winner’s total pretty much a secret.

Ryan gave vote spread for S2 (130K votes if I remember correctly) and he announced the percentage difference between the winner/loser and total votes for S7 (so we could easily figure out the vote totals).

I seem to recall hearing the margin of victory (in percentages) from S3. I can’t remember if it was announced on the show (or maybe one of Nigel’s little telecons).

I guess folks forgot about Michael Jackson and his “sleep aids”, which killed him. It happens when you have a lot of pressure and stress and you just want to rest.
But I also guess that this young lady got ahold of a man who could scr**ew her head off and just fell head over heels in love with him and believed everything he said about not wanting to be married. Maybe he felt the stress and pressure too of being a father…who knows?….but if anybody’s seen the man, he is “fine” and I can see where she would got a little nuts.
Pressure and stress will do that to you….it could have been accidental, I want to believe it was a “MJ” case of just wanting to sleep, not wanting to commit suicide.

I want to add that the girl can sing her a** off, she’s just not had good management in the past….she seems to have good management now. She needs to get her house in order….if you saw her on Oprah, she stated she put her affairs in the hands of others.

it could have been accidental, I want to believe it was a “MJ” case of just wanting to sleep, not wanting to commit suicide.

I’d agree if she wasn’t found in a closet……My though is whether one feels compassion for her or not I still maintain that the daughter is the real victim. Whatever the reason for this fiasco the daughter has to live with the knowledge that her mother tried to kill herself. (whether real or manipulated) That is the real tragedy!

I’m sincerely happy she’s ok. Having said that, she and her team have done exactly what I believed they would do when I read the story yesterday: They’ve turned the narrative into “poor naive Fantasia,” as a way of turning the conversation and publicity away from her very inappropriate relationship with a married man. Her suicide “attempt” “gesture” or whatever it was, combined with a self serving PR statement from her rep tell me, sadly, that nothing has changed and Fantasia hasn’t learned a damn thing.

The main thing I think about with this is her daughter. Very sad. She needs to concentrate on being a good mother for that little girl.

I doubt that this is a PR stunt. She probably was just overwhelmed once the story came out. I know someone who has four kids and tried to commit suicide after her affair came out. Fortunately, for her kids, she was found in time and lived.

They’ve turned the narrative into “poor naive Fantasia,” as a way of turning the conversation and publicity away from her very inappropriate relationship with a married man. Her suicide “attempt” “gesture” or whatever it was, combined with a self serving PR statement from her rep tell me, sadly, that nothing has changed and Fantasia hasn’t learned a damn thing.

I am inclined to agree with you. If one plays, one pays. Regardless of what story he may or may not have given her, she made the choice to become involved with a married man and should take self responsibility. She was boxed in a corner it seems to me with the information as detailed in the court papers. Focus is off that, at least temporarily with the self serving PR statement. I am not a fan of Fantasia and could hardly stand her screechy vote and music but she has been given a golden opportunity and it is up to her to make the most of it.

stand her screechy vote and music but she has been given a golden opportunity and it is up to her to make the most of it.

oops… should have read screechy VOICE…

just sayin:
08/10/2010 at 7:10 pm

The main thing I think about with this is her daughter. Very sad. She needs to concentrate on being a good mother for that little girl.

I seem to recall that a big deal was made about her hoping to win AI to make a better life for her daughter. She won…so? Just sayin’

Oh VH1 you aren’t fooling anybody, of course her reality show will debut as scheduled. Hell, I won’t be suprised if they decide to move the date UP. Between this and her PR rep pimping her cd release date, it seems certain Fantasia is on her own as far as self-improvement and learning personal responsibility. If her label and VH1 want to help her they’ll put both projects on hold and tell her to spend the next year in therapy and being a mother to her child.

The person I feel sorry for is her daughter. Either Fantasia is really messed up and truly needs psychological help, or she’s a manipulative person who will agree to do anything for publicity and to try and deflect any criticism away from herself. She’s an adult — she needs to take responsibility for her actions. She doesn’t appear to have very good judgment either in terms of her actions or in who she trusts to handle her business

did any of lyou see her VHI show? I did….and reruns are free online….some of those issues she talked about, esp. the pressure of having to support her family, and not getting good financial advice and being taken advantage of.
I repeat, the woman is very talented, she’s got a long career ahead of her, but she needs to learn to handle pressure and stress — and men! This is the second man I read where she had a romance with….and it was alluded to in a gossip article that (someone in a hit Broadway play– Fantasia?) aborted a child because he didn’t want any children. If this was Fantasia, she’s been through a lot with these men.

Oh Please!!!

If Fantasia had only taken the advice of NeNe from the Real Housewives of Atlanta years ago, then about half of her current troubles could have been avoided – “CLOSE YOUR LEGS TO MARRIED MEN!!!”

The apparent fact that she knew he was “separated”, means that she knew he was STILL MARRIED! Separated is separated, not yet divorced. Divorced is divorced, no longer married. Also, if the guy was truly separated, then she should have asked to see the paperwork. There IS THAT, you know.

I also believe that there IS a sextape and the guy ONLY brought his kids around her because he hoped it would 1) bolster his lies 2) create empathy 3) create familiarity/bonds between herself and his kids (and her kid) and HOPEFULLY that it would lead to her commiting some of her finances towards their caretaking when he eventually asks her for “help” with his child support payments.

Also, if you’ve kept up with the story (it’s been on Media Takeout since FOREVER), you’d know that she’s supposedly taken many actions with this guy that are very consistent with knowing your relationship is “on the downlow”. I don’t buy her story.

But what kills me the most is what Dhunken said, it’s the child that is gonna suffer! Just knowing your mom was willing to “leave” you (a young impressionable child still in need or rearing), whether she did or not, just has to be a mindf*. And for this reason alone, I choose to believe she just HAS to be suffering from some sort of SERIOUS debillitating mental illness to even “consider” such a thing.

I hope she uses this pause in her life well by doing some DEEP introspection, receiving all needed therapies, pulling the leeches that are relentlessly attached to her existence for their own life support, and then doing some serious house cleaning (in every room). Good luck to her and her kid. I’m rooting for them! :) (that is until I see this all play out on VH1 with promos for her album)

Wow. Well, I have compassion for anyone in Fantasia’s current predicament. She’s made some bad choices. She’s brought a certain amount of pain on others. Something tells me she’s in a great deal of pain as well. It’s not my style to conjure up conspiracies about what motivates someone to do something like this. Whatever the reasons, she’s in trouble and needs help. I hope she gets it for her sake and her family.

But I also guess that this young lady got ahold of a man who could scr**ew her head off and just fell head over heels in love with him and believed everything he said about not wanting to be married. Maybe he felt the stress and pressure too of being a father…who knows?….but if anybody’s seen the man, he is “fine” and I can see where she would got a little nuts.

Wow… this was quite a read! But… a man is not “fine” if he cheats on his wife. Fantasia used very poor judgement.. again. If the court papers released are accurate, she was downright cruel to this man’s wife. Classic case of someone who can’t handle the spotlight. Her PR is a mess too… Geesh

<blockquoteSparklesATL:
08/10/2010 at 4:11 pm
North Carolina has Alienation of Affections and Criminal Conversation laws and it is fairly common for a woman to sue her husbands lover. After the comment Fantasia made to the wife, I wouldn’t be surprised if the wife sues her for everything she’s got. I also wouldn’t be surprised if the wife won either.

Fantasia has made some horrible life choices. I don’t blame it on her lack of education; many brilliant people have fallen prey to shysters. (Hello Bernard Madoff) I really, really hope she can find someone to trust that has her best interests at heart.

Bingo. Mny of the women who have filed for Alienation of Affection and CC have won – took a few doctors down and if the wife decides to file Fantasia is toast.

I love Fantasia and I hope that she gets a grip – her RECORDED comments to the wife might just take her down.

Get well Fantasia ! Oh, and one suggestion – apologize (while the camera is running ). All it can do is help.

I won’t be so presumptious to know what is truly going on in Fantasia’s life. I only know that she is one of the most talented to ever come off the show, and I hope this is a big wake-up call for her. Some people have a harder time handling fame than others.

her RECORDED comments to the wife might just take her down.

Oh wow… so she really did say that stuff? It’ hard for me to feel sorry for someone that could be that mean.

Wow. I can’t believe some of the things people have said on here about all of this. Understand, I hadn’t heard Fantasia before she performed on the show this season (and then I went back and YouTubed the performance that I’d heard talked about when she returned and Simon had that infamous look on his face). I really have to be honest – I couldn’t stand her as an artist. But this is about something far far more than music, artist, whatever.

I’m usually long winded anyways so I doubt people will find it that odd for me. But this topic is one I really feel strongly about. You see, I myself have suffered from clinical depression for 20+ years (it started from what it seems like around age 7 or so, and I’m now 30). I’ve been to counseling, never helped. I refuse to medicate myself because honestly I don’t see how an addiction is going to help solve my problems. For those not living with issues like these, they have no idea what they’re talking about. I have personally thought about suicide before, never attempted it (probably because my biggest fears, in order, are death, the dark, and heights).

However I have also somehow through my life ended up running into people with whom I tend to share a common bond – the depression, suicidal thoughts, and all. I remember being an undergrad and having a friend of mine send me a message on my computer that said basically she was going to kill herself. I think I was at her dorm room door before my reply made it back to her computer. I spent over an hour getting her to talk, and finally, when the dam burst, it even shocked someone who knew the sorts of things she was going through. See, this girl was a really really pretty girl, she was smart, she was funny, she was kinda sarcastic – just all around a great person, and the sort that no one would have imagined would have had suicidal thoughts. You can’t just tell by looking at someone. And you REALLY can’t just assume that it’s all an act. People saying the whole thing was faked, staged, whatever – I’m sorry, but get the f*ck out of here. You can’t know whether it was or not, and if it wasn’t faked or a ploy for publicity, this girl really really needs help. Not people judging her or calling her things like Skanktasia. Was she wrong to be sleeping with another woman’s husband? Of course. And I’m not saying she should get a free pass to do whatever she wants because she has mental problems. Someone who’s depressed or suicidal still generally retains their powers of rational thinking. In fact, it’s those powers of rational thinking that generally lead them to TELL someone they’re thinking about killing themselves. (It’s when they don’t tell people that they’re thinking about it, or they act overly happy or confident, and then attempt to kill themselves, that it’s even scarier – in those cases they’re generally more resigned to their fate, so to speak, and just want to find the time and place to get it over with rather than looking for help. Fantasia’s situation actually almost sounds like the latter, in that she was found in a closet after apparently rather pointedly insulted this man’s wife and acted like she was totally right in what she was doing. Had she been tearful and remourseful, a suicide attempt seems more like a spur of the moment thing than a calculated thought.) Truthfully, I had ANOTHER girl tell me for quite a while she wanted to kill herself as well…it was a girl I worked with. The night she tried to slit her wrists, I took it more seriously (especially when rather than being upset or scared, she was saying “I don’t know why it’s not working, I’m cutting down and not across, there’s a lot of blood and it hurts, but I feel fine otherwise), and when she just wouldn’t really talk to me about it and also was going on heroin and cocaine binges, I finally completely broke her trust and got her help from someone else. I don’t talk to her any more at all. She DID tell me the reason she talked to me was because she needed to tell someone though, but she just didn’t know how. Yes, it’s in many cases a plea for help. Most people who try to kill themselves don’t really, really, want to die. However, they see it as sort of a “magic bullet” (and that’s a horrible phrase for it). If they fail – well, they’ll get the attention…but help as well. If they succeed, well, then they won’t hurt any more.

Odds are too, for those saying how selfish it would be to leave her daughter without a mother…Fantasia didn’t see it that way. People who are suicidal really think they’re pretty much nothing but a burden on everyone. Even the girls that I’d had confide in me they wanted to kill themselves apologized over and over and over for being a burden on me. The hardest part of helping someone in a case like this is making them realize that whatever burden they’re being on you, you would much rather them be that burden and work things out, than to choose the alternative. (And often they also don’t want to talk to someone with whom they really don’t share some sort of bond, because they feel that the person doesn’t truly care and is only doing their job. Like a counselor for instance – they will sometimes feel that a professional sees them only as a number and is only doing their job, and this sort of situation just further makes them feel unwanted, and even more, just as a burden.)

From all of us who suffer with depression and have had suicidal thoughts of our own, or had friends or family deal with these problems – Fantasia, get the help you need, and realize that nothing is bad enough that you need to kill yourself over it. This coming from someone as a person, not as a fan. And to those of you who think this is all fake – I hope no one in need ever comes to you and you assume they’re just being overly dramatic or that they’ll “get over it.” Some compassion and caring for other people would do a lot to make our whole world a better place. A lot of people like to talk about it, but few people really seem to show it – especially when they can hide behind a keyboard.

mozart4898

An excellent post and very kind of you to share so others may see this in a different light.

Mozart4898, thank you for your perspective and sharing your story. Truthfully I don’t see many parallels between what you have experienced and what Fantasia is experiencing. You seem to be talking about a depression brought on by chemical imbalance and it seems Fantasia made a series of choices that backed her into a corner and caused her to look for a way to get people off her back.

ALL suicide attempts and gestures should be taken seriously but we can’t be so politically correct that we ignore the reality that there ARE feigned or
half hearted(yet still dangerous) suicide attempts all the time. Sadly those situations dishonor and disrespect those like you and your friend who have
TRULY struggled with whether or not to continue living. Given the circumstances as we know them now, combined with her PR representative using the
situation for album publicity, I believe Fantasia’s “attempt” was more along the lines of a “poor me, you’ll be sorry” message directed either at her
critics or Mr. Cook himself, and it disgusts me.

Mozart, thank you for sharing your thoughts and personal feelings about this situation and about Fantasia. I truly understand what you are saying; however, parents need to put their children first, even when in the depths of deep depression. The loss, the guilt, the not knowing the whole truth could be with her daughter for the rest of her life.

I don’t think this is a fake situation; however, if I was Fantasia’s friend, I would have advise her to take her daughter and leave town for an isolated place. Forget the boyfriend at this point, and take care of yourself and your child! I do have pity for her and hope she will get the help she needs. In time, this too will pass.

Mozart, I think you are a great contributor to this forum. I do have one request. Would you please use more paragraphs as the reading is hard on these ole eyes. Thank you!

I don’t think she won by that much–I’ve heard 2%. I don’t know if that’s true–someone feel free to correct me if needed.

Most of the percentages revealed have been by the producers or Ryan. Fantasia won by less that 2% of the vote.

Kelly had 56% of the vote; Justin 44%.

Though the amount revealed by Ryan was 130,000+ more for Ruben over Clay, Nigel Lythgoe revealed before Season 5 that Clay was the winner every single week from the Wild Card Round to the Finals. There were phone disruptions and the phone lines could not handle the overwhelming calls for Clay. This is why many of his fans got a constant business signal for two hours.

I just did the research on text messaging, and I am not sure on the other totals at this momnent. I think something was announced about Carrie;s win over Bo. I believe Taylor won by more than 20 million votes. Jordin over Blake was 2%. David Cook over David Archuleta was 12 million.

I have each Finale taped, so I would have to check on Season 8 and Season 9. I don’t recall any numbers given. I believe it was very close between Kris and Adam. The debate still continues.

TEXT MESSAGING really affected the results after Season 4.

edited per MJ’s advice

Reminder:

Please don’t “finger-wag” or tell off your fellow posters. I’ll be deleting all posts from peeps who have landed in this thread to lecture people.

I’d also like to point out to people sharing deeply personal stories: There may only be less then a hundred posts in this thread, but there are literally thousands of people lurking and reading here.

Before you share your story ask yourself if the info is something you want broadcast to whole lot of people you don’t know.

BREAKING NEWS: ‘Tasia is still a ho-bag skank. Updates to follow as they become available.

Before you share your story ask yourself if the info is something you want broadcast to whole lot of people you don’t know.

MJ – I appreciate your concern for this. I’m well aware, and I understand that anyone can read these things. I’m pretty comfortable with these things being out there – they’re not exactly secrets to those who know me, and to those who don’t, I still feel sharing some of my own experiences may help others at times too. But I will be careful about what I do happen to say.

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