Fantasia Barrino Slams Gay Marriage (UPDATED: Statement from Fantasia)

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UPDATE: Fantasia’s management have released a statement on her behalf:

Comments made by Ms. Barrino through her Intragram account were recently taken far out of context, and the purpose of this release is to set the record straight. Ms. Barrino is not now, nor has she ever been an opponent of the LGBT community. She has supported and performed at numerous events that are sponsored by the LGBT community. Whether it’s through a live performance or placement on social media, Ms. Barrino uses every opportunity to reach out and connect with her fans, all of her fans.

WOW. Where is the apology? Or at least an explanation of what was taken out of context? If Fantasia wants to fix the mess, she needs to sound contrite.   This poorly written “statement” does not cut it.

Fantasia also posted another instagram:


Unless this is a hoax, this photo is a screencap from a photo and message Fantasia Barrino posted on her instagram account..  It’s hard to unscramble her jumbled mess of a post, but the Season 3 American Idol winner appears to be calling out pot smoking and gay marriage.

Regardless of her faulty logic and poor attempt at making some kind of point (calling out folks throwing stones by throwing stones herself?) Fantasia has managed to cause quite a stir on twitter!  She’s getting slammed. Congrats, Fantasia, on alienating a huge portion of your fan base!

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  • suenigma

    OMG! I don’t even know what to say to this!

  • James M.

    Me neither. Part of me wants to slam her for her opinion. But it’s her opinion. But I despise her opinion.

    And she’s poorly defending it as mj said. 

  • CSFan

    It’s real and seemed to start when she posted a picture of her Christmas gift from her still married boyfriend on Instagram. A few people trolled her for it and she responded with what mj posted above. A LOT of her fans are gay so she’s catching hell online right now and the story will probably have legs.

  • Niall

    And this is why, boys and girls, some people shouldn’t have internet access. Fantasia’s stupidity never ends, does it? LOL

  • John S

    She isn’t the brightest crayon in the box, and she obviously has a lot of issues, but on be fair, she does have the right to freedom of speech and to her own opinion. I will just leave it at that.

  • washpd

    Omg this has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Freedom of speech = the government can’t stop you from expression or punish you for it. It does not mean nor has it ever meant that there are no consequences for the opinions you express. At the very least, she has just alienated a lot of her fans. She has the freedom to alienate whoever she wants, but she will probably regret it.

  • fantoo1

    This actually doesn’t surprise me-I have seen different statistics that say that most African Americans are against gay marriage, despite most of them voting democrat/for Obama. The black churches have conservative views on social issues.

    I have seen other black contestants come out and say they don’t agree with gay marriage or something along those lines-I remember Mandisa saying she wouldn’t feel comfortable performing at a gay event, and Ashthon Jones from Season 10 said she “doesn’t agree” with gay marriage.

  • Kariann Hart

    Well, it is her opinion.  Fantasia is the only Idol winner that I truly disliked.  She had a few great moments on Idol, but her post-Idol personal life and career has been a mess.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Nope. And as everyone knows, Fantasia is so wonderful at following what the Bible says herself. lol The woman is talented, but such a trainwreck.

  • Cathy Knott

    Let me see Fantasia- does the bible condone abortions and having affairs with married men.   She needs to keep her mouth shut IMHO

  • applesdefinitely

    Um actually I’m getting a feeling that on the contrary, she’s trying to say that since a lot of things the bible condemns are okay now then her having an affair with a married man should be just as okay.

    I don’t have an opinion on Fantasia really and don’t care one way or another but here she’s being misunderstood I think.

  • Emmuzka

    If she wants to go biblical… So bible says not to smoke weed? Where? 

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree that Fantasia’s post-Idol personal life has been a mess (probably her pre-Idol personal life too), but her career has actually been pretty successful.

  • H.A.

    As much as Fantasia personal life is a mess I don’t dislike her. I wish she would get it together but I guess when you grew up dysfunctional it’s sometimes hard for people to not continue being dysfunctional in their adulthood. Her career is doing fine though so it could be what keeps her from going completely trainwecky. Honestly if she wasn’t a celebrity she wouldn’t be any different than a lot of other woman out there that just have no sense.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    A follow-up message from tasiasword on instagram:

    No 1 else will Hurt Me!! Nor my Family. Life is SO SHORT!! I dont have time to try and please any of you anymore. Im going ALL INN NOW

    OK, Fantasia. lol

  • quickjessie

     Per national exit polls from this past election, the majority of AA and Hispanic voters now support gay marriage.  The times are changing, almost daily, and recent polling all show a huge gain in support for gay marriage with all demographics. 

    Fanty is a low-class moron, always has been and always will be.  And I’m not sure she has any personal knowledge of any Biblical passage, much less the one – yes, one – citation regarding homosexuality that is contained therein.  And I’m quite sure the 68 times adultery is mentioned completely escaped her notice.

  • quickjessie

     When spelling the two letter word “in” is beyond your capabilities, maybe Twitter isn’t something you should be frequenting if you hope to keep any illusions alive about your intelligence.

  • Bentley1530

    I find this a little strange since she has headlined major pride celebrations and she has a large gay following.  But she seems to be very impulsive and an in the moment kind of person who does not think of the consequences of her actions.  

  • potatorocks

    Her point may be that we should stop judging people using gay marriage and legalization of drugs as examples that we have moved forward and should move forward regarding her life as well.   
      We all know she learned to read after idol.  It is one of the things she should be very proud of.  I hope she is being misunderstood in this tweet.  I hope she can clarify what she means.    She is someone who could really use support and a mentor.   A superb performer and talent–fantasia i wish you happiness and peace in the new year.

  • HermeticallySealed

     Actually, the bible is okay with abortions. Indeed, it was demanded of conquered women who were pregnant. And as long as she was not married herself, strictly speaking the man could indeed sleep with her (as adultery only counted if it was a man sleeping with another man’s wife). She would still be condemned, because well, the Old testament is pretty sexist against women.

    That said, I don’t think a women who knowingly injects herself into another’s relationship has any room to be judgmental.  That woman is a pure mess.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “But she seems to be very impulsive and an in the moment kind of person who does not think of the consequences of her actions.”

    No, really? Could’ve fooled me. lol

  • Connie

    Seems there is a bit of pack mentality going on here. This woman has a right to her opinion just as everyone else does. NO NEED TO HURT HER or put her down for what she thinks or feels. Being a public figure does not make someone impervious to what he/she should feel. They were not born public figures, it is society as a whole that puts them there, then society critiques every move. Yes, it comes with responsibility, but not every public figure can achieve the highest of standards that society holds them to, they are people with flaws and gifts. Give it a rest. 

  • maymay

    For her, fortunately, at least the Bible writter wasn`t a racist, right?

  • SullyD

    I have to disagree. It’s one thing stating your opinion about the type of government you’d like to have, for instance, but stating that others lifestyle is “wrong” is downright offensive in my book, nobody has the right to tell others the way they should or shouldn’t live.

    Not only about gays/maryjuana smokers, but with everybody. It would be as offensive as an Atheist calling a religious person a “bible thumper”, as if all religious people were alienated, but unfortunely, we know that both stories happen more often than they should.

    Our “freedon of speech” ends when it affects other people lives.

    But I do agree that some of the people who replied her on twitter were over the top.

  • hello

    deal breaker. bye fantasia

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Our “freedon of speech” ends when it affects other people lives.”

    I see your point, but when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church in allowing them to protest at funerals and spew their hatred, it appears that at least legally, freedom of speech trumps any detrimental effects on other people’s lives.

  • chillj

    I does not seem she so much slammed gay people as gay marriage; there is a difference, actually.  I read a while back that gay marriage is not popular in the church attending part of the black community, so this is not really surprising.  She seems like a traditionalist.

  • SullyD

     …which is terrible. And I say this as a religious person myself.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “She seems like a traditionalist.”

    If Fantasia were a traditionalist, then you would think that the parts of the Bible repeatedly condemning adultery would have had a bigger impact on her behavior than the have had. But I guess that behavior falls into the category of not being “perfect”. lol

  • kmd23

    I was never a fan of Fantasia and her comments (although she is entitled to them) make me even less of a fan.

  • chillj

    Fantasia is simply not bright enough or respected enough for logic failure to be a big deal.  Almost all of us, though, are hypocrites at one time or another, and I’m pretty confident 99.9% have transgressed something in the Bible and many transgressing freely attack others for their transgressions.  Human condition.

    That said, she seems to be on very shaky ground with respect to weed, because everyone toqued up at the last supper.

  • arkboy

    Frankly, it has never mattered to me one way or the other how anyone else lives their life. If gays want to marry, I won’t be impacted one way or another.

    But, I’ll reiterate my previous statement & say that this is the most unlikable Idol contestant ever. And for someone that seems to be having such a difficult time sustaining a successful career, to go out of her way to irritate a large portion of her supporters, is just plain dumb.

  • elliegrll

    I think that Fantasia is one of the most talented people to have ever come off of American Idol, and one of the most talented r&b singers today, but I’m sad that her statement totally lacks any degree of self awareness.  She’s had a lot of success, but her poor life choices have kept her from achieving more.  The statement shows that one of her biggest problems is that she’s paying too much attention to the people who are judging her, or saying nasty things about her, and not enough to those who have been supporting her.  Who cares what her detractors think, just like who cares what she thinks about marriage equality.  

    I just read something that Fantasia should focus on in the new year:  ”Spend so much time on self improvement that you have no time to criticize others.”

  • MellyPer1692

    What difficult time sustaining her career??

    Fantasia won a Grammy for best female R&B performance for her last album. She also received a Grammy nomination for Best R&B album. She’s currently working on her fourth major label album which is more than most Idols can say. Her last album was also certified Gold on the Us and she gets good radio play in her genre.

    I’m not fond of her thoughts on gay marriage, but whatever, she has the right to express her opinion.

  • elliegrll

    And for someone that seems to be having such a difficult time sustaining a successful career

    Fantasia’s career hasn’t been perfect, but she’s had more success than most idol alums.  Pretty much the only people who have been more successful are Daughtry, Kelly and Carrie.

  • MellyPer1692

    I actually think that slamming gay marriage is slamming gay people. It is on essence saying that they are “lesser” and do not deserve the same rights as other people. Love is love.

  • elliegrll

     This woman has a right to her opinion just as everyone else does. NO NEED TO HURT HER or put her down for what she thinks or feels.

    But, didn’t Fantasia just use words to hurt a whole lot of people just because of the way that they feel, live, and love.  What’s the difference?  How exactly does she have a right to express her opinion, but others don’t have the same right to express their’s, or live their lives the way that they want to?

    We all have freedom of speech, but that freedom doesn’t mean that we won’t have to deal with people who disagree with our opinions.

  • chillj

    I don’t guess you have heard a gay person’s view of polygamous marriage. I support gay marriage, but I also think others’ rights must be looked at.  The gay community, I discover, disagrees.  Love is love?  Only if it is exclusive, which is the same argument as conservative anti-gay marriage proponents make.  Disheartening.d

  • HermeticallySealed

    As a gay person, I am curious as to what my view supposedly is?  i can honestly say I don’t personally know any other gay person who has any qualms about anyone else’s relationship(s) as long as no one involved is being harmed.  That includes polyamorous relationships.

  • Niall

    She was probably using gay marriage as an example of something biblical that is “just as bad as” adultery but who besides someone really dumb, really insensitive, or really homophobic, uses that example in 2012/2013? She has a right to her opinion but when that opinion throws shade on a group of people within her fanbase?! Dumb, dumb, dumb.

  • Larc

    I don’t think Fantasia is seeing the situation clearly.  Gay people who do ultra-stupid things are usually judged, too.

  • chillj

    Look, I  aspire to being gay and have no problem with gay marriage, because the relationships are often so much better than heterosexual ones, but I read loads about this ages ago and from what I have read (often), a great number of gay people are not open to other forms of marriage.  At all. It is not my issue, it is the gay community’s – and it is an issue I researched because of my initial horror.  I am aware that conservatives use fear of polygamy to reject gay marriage, and that may be part of the reason for the stance.  But it is a stance.

  • HermeticallySealed

     Well, as someone very involved in that ‘community’  I have never witnessed this supposed view.  I have seen many who think marriage in of itself is a flawed institution (monogamous or polyamorous) and shouldn’t be a part of any relationship, and I have seen those who have felt that they could never be a part of an open marriage (or polygamous one), but never cared what others chose for themselves.

  • bridgette12

    I think Fantasia has a right to her opinion. I don’t agree with it, but it’s her right. But I do have a problem with someone who wants to criticize others and their lifestyles, has never gone on twitter to apologize for her own mistakes. I bought her first and last albums and will buy any future albums, because she has a great voice and I love her songs. But I will and have in the past, called her out for knowingly getting involved with a married man with children. It’s skanky thing to do and then get pregnant by that loser, thus dragging another child into her drama. Maybe somewhere alone the line, she needs to get her stuff together, because she has two kid to take care of and she is their role model and only parent.

  • Diablo

    I never minded her and was annoyed at all the sanctimonious judgment passed on her but this? Shut your fucking mouth, Fantasia, gay marriage is judged way more than your little exploits. Even if it’s legal in some states, it’s illegal in most whereas the law everywhere doesn’t forbid you to have an affair with a married man. Fucking up your private life is your business that people should stay away from but don’t compare it to the civil rights issues.

  • elliegrll

    Her comparison is a good one, but only in the sense that people should stay out of other people’s business.  The people judging her don’t know her or have all of the facts, and she’s judging and putting down millions of people who she’s never met, and who have never done anything to personally hurt her.


    I was never nor am I now, a fan of Fantasia. Actually I didn’t even realized that her career was remotely successful.  

    Well anyways, I do think that she should be more open-minded about gay marriage..etc All human beings have a right to be happy in whatever relationship they choose and she shouldn’t be the one to judge. Just wondering if maybe she  wanst to have a few extra minutes in the spotlight and is using this avenue to get it. 

  • Brittney DivaSwagg Cook

    OK, after you read this you will be confused…..People all around need to remember she was raised in a very religious family! Also she was not bashing gays, she was simply just saying that society can condemn her lifestyle(being with a married man and having kids with him), but easily and willingly accepts the gay lifestyle and common addictions!—–She is so WRONG about the bible talking against weed though(The Bible speaks on Weed(Hemp)((the bud))The bible clearly states:God said… I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. ..And to every beast of the earth.. I have given every green herb for meat… ” Genesis 1:29-30 … And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31) The Bible predicts some herb’s prohibition. “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3)The Bible speaks of a special plant. “I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.” (Ezekiel 34:29) A healing plant. On either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare 12 manner of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Revelations 22:1-2) A gift from God.Fantasia can have several seats!!! Dont get it twisted, she is still my girl!

  • DaisyMagnolia

    I really wish some here would stop with the ‘blacks are socially conservative and against gays/gay marriage’ trope.  It’s a short-sighted outlook. It’s true that older AAs are like that, but so are many older people of all races.  A large number of AAs under 40 are more accepting/open minded about many topics, just like other races.

    Being black does not automatically mean being against gays.

  • Diablo

    Her comparison is a good one, but only in the sense that people should stay out of other people’s business.  

    Not really, because she makes it seem like people actually do stay out of the gay marriage business which, bitch please. I knew that she’s kinda dumb but I didn’t realize to what extent. 

  • girlygirltoo

    She’s never struck me as being particularly bright. She’s entitled to her opinions (which I totally disagree with), of course, but she’s wrong if she thinks gays (and the idea of gay marriage) are not judged harshly. 

  • steph6449

    Not a fan of Fantasia’s music or conduct. Weird outburst if this is really from her. Has anything new prompted it, vs. just lingering from the situations of a year or so back?

    To the extent that she is just saying that the Bible “speaks” against gay marriage, that is supportable IMO from a religious viewpoint. While some denominations are currently espousing otherwise, plenty of traditional religious institutions from multiple major faiths worldwide have long taught / currently teach that and it’s in their primary texts. 

    But stringing that together with all of the other things to make some sort of defense of her multiple choices over quite a period of time to be involved with a married man — that is not so biblically logical, eesh.  

    And comparing two issues as they exist today in the civil legal & political arena, with religious teaching as it connects to her personal (mis)behavior doesn’t precisely make sense to me either. 

  • Michael Bishop

    Well, I’ve never much cared for her work, and she has a right to her opinion.  That being said, comparing loving homosexual couples who are simply seeking EQUALITY with those on drugs, or like herself, a home wrecker with now 2 out of wedlock children tells me that she needs to spend more time thinking about HER choices, and less time trying to justify her actions.

  • Eileen99

    Some people should not have twitter.

  • tinawina

    Oh Fanny. I love your voice, own your albums. I have always rooted for you. But you make it harder by the day. Lately every time you open your mouth I like you less.

  • bridgette12

    First, being gay is not a lifestyle choice, your born that way. Second, Fantasia hooking up with a married man and had a baby by him, is her choice. She interferred with another woman’s marriage, who had children with this man and ended up jeopardizing her career plus endangered her own life with a suicide attempt. Fantasia didn’t care what she was doing to her boyfriends wife,  his kid and certainly not her own daughter, all she cared about was what she wanted and the hell with the consequences. As for her being raised in a religious family, maybe she and her freeloading family that’s been sponging off her for years, need to remember those teaching from the church. Fantasia has a voice of an angel, but she got the morals of a streetwalker. Yeah, she’s being slammed by people on twitter, because maybe they think she’s needs to clean up her own act before criticizing others lifestyle.   

  • twodollars

     Thank you, thank you, thank you for explaining this. People using the first amendment as a defense when people criticize their opinions makes me nuts.

    She has definitely alienated many of her fans and considering how few she has nowaday, it is a dumb move.

  • Ronnie D

    We don’t need people, especially a concubine like her, telling us about morality lol.

  • No Thanks

    God blessed Fantasia with an abundance of talent, but apparently didn’t leave any room for intelligence or common sense.

    The multitude of ways she finds to screw up her life are never ending.  And worse, she NEVER LEARNS.  Yes, everyone makes mistakes.  But Fantasia keeps repeating the same ones over and over and over again expecting different results.  The definition of insanity.

  • bridgette12

    Fantasia has to be dealing with some kind of mental issue that she can’t seem to stop herself from self destructing. I understand she’s had a hard life, but you would think eventually she would tell herself that she has to put the past in her rear view mirror and build a happy and healthy life for herself and her kids.    

  • aj rabin

    I think this might be the most intelligent thing to come out of fantasias mouth! Good for you Fantasia!! And marriage is not about love. It’s about the unique bond between man and woman in order to bring about the next generation as god intended.

  • No Thanks

    She probably does.  Like Britney Spears, Demi Lovato and tons of other celebrities.  I doubt anyone in her life will encourage her to look into it.  They’re more interested in keeping the gravy train going.

  • aj rabin

    I actually never really liked her but now I do! She was expressing the view of over 62% of her home state of NC who thankfully voted for marriage to be only between a man and a woman as it was since beginning of mankind.

  • Sunny Mc

    I am so over Fantasia. I don’t care how well she sings Summertime, I am over her!

  • Jason Scott

    Oh brother…

  • Ronnie D

     I doubt that Fantasia, or you, know what God’s plan is. How arrogant of the both of you.

  • Holden17C

    Fantasia is certainly entitled to express her opinion, as are all the people who disagree with her. Based on her words, however, I can’t make out exactly what she is trying to say. Is she angry about being judged? Is she expressing this anger by judging others? I honestly can’t tell.

    I don’t want to see anyone treated badly, regardless of their race, religion, orientation, or whatever — and that includes Fantasia (although I’m not a fan of her music). It’s distressing to see someone come off so terribly unhinged, especially when that person has children. I hope Fantasia eventually acquires a sense of stability, especially for her kids’ sake.

  • aj rabin

    Gods plan is written openly in the bible. His plan is obvious otherwise it would be biologically possible for same sex couples to bear children.

  • Ronnie D

     The Bible was written by men, not God. Marriage isn’t only for child bearing, unless you are still living in the times the Bible was written. Furthermore, there isn’t one shred of evidence for the existence of the God that you say wrote the Bible.

  • HermeticallySealed

     That . . . . isn’t necessarily true.  Sorry, but 1) marriage is an artificial construct all about protecting property and money and 2) has existed in multiple forms in many different cultures (some indeed included same sex pairings, including early Christian rites) throughout history.  Even recent “traditionalist’s” notions of marriage are not necessarily historically sound, and fail to take in the shear breadth of marriage traditions across the world.  Simply put, modern day “traditional marriage” advocates have a pretty myopic view on the subject.

  • aj rabin

    Anyone above the age of 10 who claims not to believe in god is either lying or has a very low IQ. Go take a stroll outside and look around you at all the beauty of nature and then come back inside and claim it was all an accident and didnt have a divine creator. You may have questions about god but to say he doesnt exist is hard for me to take you seriously.

  • HermeticallySealed

     Not even biblically correct.  Sorry, but many forms of marriage advocated by the Judeo-Christian bible are not legal (and in fact are decried by modern Christians and Jews). Unless we are really claiming that men can marry multiple women (including their brother’s widow), rape victims forced into marrying their rapists, etc.

  • Ronnie D

     I do believe in a higher power, very much so. But not the judgmental one you believe in. “God” created all things, including gays. Homosexuality is found in other species as well, and even asexuality! Any 10 year old who takes science should know that.

  • MellyPer1692

    Did North Carolina also ban divorce?? Cuz if they didn’t, hypocrites.

  • aj rabin

    This is america and everyone can decide for themselves what society as a whole should allow. Thats for the ballot box. However we are reaching a point where religious people are being attacked with every name in the book just for expressing their beliefs. A celebrity can come out for gay marriage and wont get attacked like it is vice versa as we see in the case here of Fantasia.

  • HermeticallySealed

     I am well above 10, have a well above average IQ and nope, don’t believe in God.  Sorry, but nothing in existence requires it, though nothing truly rules it out (just certain aspects).  After reading multiple religious texts, there isn’t anything particularly more believable about one religion’s god, over another’s. As the saying goes, “when you understand why it is you don’t believe in someone else’s gods, the you’ll understand why it is I don’t believe in yours.”  I don’t believe in the Christian god, for the same reasons Christians don’t believe in the Hindu or Wiccan gods.  Just that simple for me.

  • Robert

    People also have the right to call her on it too.

  • Jo Kolz

    Does this mean that all the scientists that believe in evolution have low IQ’s?  

  • Robert

    I love when celebs go to the “I didn’t really say the things that I actually did say” card.

    If you want to say something say it and not backtrack after you are called out on it and for those who want to play the freedom of speech card you can say what you want but that sure doesn’t mean you are not allowed to get called out for it.

  • HermeticallySealed

     Yes and no.  Civil rights are not supposed to be voted on.  That is what the courts are for; to prevent unfair laws from being placed on unpopular minorities who cannot defend themselves.  Not everything in America is up for vote, especially if the government cannot show a reasonable benefit. It has also been ruled by the Supreme Court in the past that marriage is indeed a ‘civil right.’

  • aj rabin

    No they dont want to believe in god because now they have a free pass to act in any sinful matter that they wish and never have to answer to anyone. Deep down anyone who studies all the incredible sciences of the world has to know it didnt all come from a big bang.

  • bridgette12

    That’s what so sad about all this, Fantasia needs to make a living for herself and her kids, but also for every freeloader in her family, all those supposed friends and her loser boyfriend. She has some problems, not excluding her learning disability and lack of education, but some serious mental problems that others are taking advantage of. I’m angry at her for sleeping around with a married man and having another child that doesn’t deserve to come into her mess of a life, but I’m also sad that she’s not getting help from the people closest to her. All they are doing is just taking and not giving anything in return.  

  • HermeticallySealed

     That’s your opinion, not a fact. And I would disagree on the whole “act however one wants” statement.  Sorry, but if history tells us anything, it’s that there have been many who have justified that very same behavior through their “religious morality.” I find empathy a pretty strong deterrent from harming others. I don’t like being hurt, so why hurt others? One does not need faith in a god to treat others with compassion. 

  • anonoymous

    I find the idea of people’s rights being up for public vote to be abhorrent.

    Voting on whether taxes should go up- that’s appropriate for vote, but a minority’s right is IMO not.  LGBT people in the south would NEVER get the right to marry by a public vote and telling them they would have to uproot their lives to get married is just IMO mean. The only way southern LGBT people will ever get the right to marry is by a court order. Blue giraffes are more likely to be seen in the south than legalized gay marriage. 

    The Supreme Court’s decision  next June will either be the Plessy vs. Ferguson (segregation decision) or the Brown vs. Board of Education (desegregation decision). I know some don’t like the comparison of the African American civil rights movement to the LGBT right movement. NO one is claiming being black is the same thing as being gay. IT’s the fight for the principle of equality that’s being compared. It’s the concept of not being denied the same rights as fellow citizens just because of who they are. It’s about “We Hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal”. Gay marriage will be legal, it’s only a matter of time. 

    Back on topic, I’m willing to give Fantasia the benefit of the doubt.

  • dd999

    No, but still can’t figure out why a gorilla is still a gorilla? I’ve been watching for years but darn they still look the same to me!  Where’s the evolution there…. lots to figure out I’d say! 

  • Sara M

    Evolution doesn’t happen over a single lifetime. So unless you are like 500,000 years old, you won’t have witnessed any evolution.

  • Ronnie D

     How long do you think evolution takes? It isn’t over night. It takes thousands of years. Really, do some research.

  • turquoisewaters

    Believing in god or not is actually not a choice. I grew up Christian, but my thinking brain told me at about the same age as you took your walk outdoors that the bible stories did not add up. I could go on pretending that I believed in god, but that would be dishonest. So I became agnostic leaning atheist. If there is a god, I hope he gives me brownie points for at least not being a hypocrite. Don’t think it made me any more sinful either. I agree that Fantasia  seems to have been through a lot. I would not make too much of her comments.

  • Jordana33

    WOW. Where is the apology? Or at least an explanation of what was taken out of context? If Fantasia wants to fix the mess, she needs to sound contrite.   This poorly written “statement” does not cut it.

    MJ, Fantasia is a huge supporter of gay rights and has headlined multiple Black Gay pride events. Not for one moment do I believe that she meant to slam gays,  or gay marriages.  I completely agree with her management when they say that she’s being misinterpreted. 

    She wasn’t criticizing gay marriage, she was using the gay comparison to point out people’s double standards.  Fantasia has a history of adultery, and an alleged suicide attempt. Despite being religious, she constantly has to put up with attacks by people (and probably the church) for these actions which are considered “sins” in the Bible.  Her point is that there are a lot of things that were considered “wrong” in the Bible but are acceptable today and she’s venting her frustration over the hypocrisy of people who pick and chose to quote the Bible whenever it suits them. I’m pretty sure that Fantasia is NOT advocating the use of the bible as a moral compass. Quite the opposite, in fact. 

    If it was anyone else, I might have interpreted the statement differently, but given Fantasia’s controversial past and the fact that she’s been very supportive of gays, I think that people are wrong to interpret her comments as homophobic. The only thing she’s guilty of is poor phrasing.

  • Jo Kolz

    If you had actually studied evolution you would realize how ignorant that statement is.  There are many branches within the evolutionary chain which takes millions of years to complete.  

  • James M.

    The biggest sin of all is ignorance. Fantasia and a lot of other people are sure showing it.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Anyone above the age of 10 who claims not to believe in god is either lying or has a very low IQ. ”

    You must believe that the world is flat. lol

  • fuzzywuzzy

    One thing that I learned today is that Fantasia has a lot of fans among the LGBT community. I didn’t realize that.

  • Huba Buba

     Not any more…

  • quickjessie

     Bet you were a big fan of slavery, too. 

  • quickjessie

     Wtf.  That’s enough.  Seems to me you god-believing people have caused every single war in history, slavery, more human rights violations than can be counted, along with your many “little” sins, like theft, adultery, murder, etc, etc, etc.

    So stow your accusations somewhere else, bud. 

  • Jordana33

    I really wish some here would stop with the ‘blacks are socially conservative and against gays/gay marriage’ trope.  It’s a short-sighted outlook. It’s true that older AAs are like that, but so are many older people of all races.  A large number of AAs under 40 are more accepting/open minded about many topics, just like other races. Being black does not automatically mean being against gays. 

       THIS. Like the “straight white community”, I think that people in the “black community” and the “gay community” are all capable of individual thought. Why do people keep assuming that there is one collective brain for certain groups?

  • dd999

    My comment wasn’t really ignorant …it was sarcasm! Of course, I know it takes millions of years according to the evolution theory, but to date scientists have yet to prove evolution, so in my books the species remain as the Bible says individual species!

  • fantoo1

    You know, you can accept gay people and still be against gay marriage. I know a lot of people who are like that, who have gay friends, but believe that marriage is one man and one woman. I can see that being Fantasia.

  • Sara M

     There are actually thousands of examples from the fossil record that show that species have changed over the history of earth, so no they have not remained the same as the bible says.

  • MellyPer1692

    I guess my problem is why should someone have to “accept” gay people, why is it their business at all? Also, the “I have gay friends” is equal to the “I have black friends” that was used in the days of segregation and after to justify denying equal rights. In my opinion, real “friends” don’t believe that their “friend” is a lesser human being unworthy of equal rights.

    These one-man, one-woman people, do they also advocate the abolishment of divorce?

  • ohreli

    Come on MJ, I am not personally against gay marriage, but there are differences of opinion on this, and its depressing when dialogue is stifled by denying the legitimacy of an opposing point of view by hysterically labeling it “hate speech.” Her message may have been disjointed but it wasnt hateful.  I am not against gay marriage, but it just mucks up the issue to have these kind of hysterical reactions against anyone with an opposing view. Yeah a lot of people recoil when it sounds like religious preaching, but this is a democracy and—like it or not— lots of people do have a religious issue with this (even Obama was against it 5 years ago!).  If you disagree with Fantasia, respond to her, but she is entitled to her opinion, and I dont know what she needs to apologize for.  (Now I am sure I am going to get attacked as well.  Free speech works both ways in a democracy, guys.)

  • Ronnie D

    People are definitely able to have opinions, but not all opinions hold value. Especially when they are bigoted. If someone’s opinion is bigoted, they should be called out on it.

  • Ronnie D

    Evolution has been subject to rigorous scientific study, where there is actual evidence to back up theories, unlike religion.

  • James M.

    “Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”

    Possibly a Mark Twain quote and again relevant here >_>. 

    And my issue is when these opinions are uneducated, ignorant, or bigoted. It’s probably Fantasia’s upbringing that gave her these tragic opinions.

  • Jo Kolz

    Believers in a God have yet to prove God, so in my book the species remain as evolution says which is already proven through fossil records.  On subject, Fantasia is just showing her ignorance every time she opens her mouth.

  • Li Wright

    I don’t know what the original statement is….what did she say?  And isn’t she entitlted to HER opinion.  I’m sure there are a lot of AIers that don’t believe in gay marriage, remember — most of them are from the south! and it’s probably not in their religious dna to believe in it.  

  • Li Wright

    One thing that I learned today is that Fantasia has a lot of fans among the LGBT community. I didn’t realize that.
    ^^ Me neither.

  • ohreli

    So Obama was a bigot 5 years ago because he didnt believe gay marriage should become legalized?  I dont remember anyone calling him a bigot.  In fact I just read an article (by a pro-gay marriage writer) last week saying that  the failure of the gay activists in California to defeat Proposition 8 (which made gay marriage illegal) was because the activists made the mistake of trying to equate the issue of gay marriage with the issue of black civil rights.  African Americans generally resented that attempt of an equation—they largely did not see it the same as the issue of racial bigotry.   The difference is that marriage is something which is not as clearly defined by the boundaries of civil rights and does intersect with its religious roots.  It is much more complex than the issue of black civil rights, and just stifling the opposing point of view because by equating it with racial bigotry has indeed proven to be a failed strategy.

  • Jake Williams

    As a gay man myself, I don’t really feel that bothered by it. That is ok if someone doesn’t support it because many other people do. Heh, gay is the new “In” thing anyways. :) Never cared for her music, but to each their own.

  • MellyPer1692

    Sorry, but some used the Bible to discriminate against Frican Americans during that time, citing the mark of Cain. No one is asking any church to perform weddings. We are asking for CIVIL marriage and the same CIVIL benefits that non homosexual couples are allowed.

  • MellyPer1692

    You know what?? My marriage does not need to be “tolerated” by religious people. Those people are human beings just like I am, however, they have this false sense of being so much better. Please.

  • John S

    I agree with those who say that being against gay marriage doesn’t automatically make you a homophobic or bigot. I’m tired of that label being thrown on those who are against it. That is what is great about this country-we don’t have to agree with it if we don’t want to, and we can be supporters of it if we want to.

  • ohreli

    I didnt say the Bible wasnt used for bad purposes.  The Crusaders also used the Bible as a pretext to slaughter Jews.  A bigot can figure out how to quote the Bible for his views, and so can a saint.  My point was that (and this was the subject of the article I referenced) that the issue of marriage inequality is not anywhere near the scope of oppression that blacks experienced in this country until the Civil Rights movement, and that not everyone who opposes gay marriage is a bigot. I will tell you why—a bigot feels a person is inferior because of who they are.  Most opponents of gay marriage base this not on the inferiority of a gay person, but because of an opinion of what defines the institution of marriage. Thats a huge difference right there.  And the civil benefits issue can also be discussed much less heatedly without the symbolism of “marriage”, so the issue is obviously about more than civil benefits.  Like I said before, I am not against gay marriage, but I do understand some of the complexities of the issue to many people.  To deny the differences and try to equate the issue with black civil rights really does the gay marriage movement no good.

  • MellyPer1692

    I don’t care if you agree or disagree, I care that you apparently think that what you believe is superior to my beliefs and rights as a citizen of the US.

  • Li Wright

    the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church in allowing them to protest at funerals and spew their hatred, it appears that at least legally, freedom of speech trumps any detrimental effects on other people’s lives

    ^^ True.

  • dd999

    Ahem! already proven..not sure where your facts come from, I understand scientists have to make a living too and are eager to prove Charles Darwin’s old  evolution theory but so far not so,  and doubt (if the truth is always told) this old theory ever will be anything but a theory! 

  • Jordana33

    Her point may be that we should stop judging people using gay marriage and legalization of drugs as examples that we have moved forward and should move forward regarding her life as well.  

    I completely agree.  Do people really believe that someone who has headlined so many gay pride events would oppose tgay marriage? Fantasia may be many things, but she’s always struck me as non-judgmental.  I’m almost certain that she was using people’s acceptance of gay marriage as an illustration of progress and as an example of why we shouldn’t use the Bible to judge others.  Unfortunately, the problem with this comparison is that it only makes sense from a Biblical standpoint. I’m sure there are tons of non-religious gay marriage supporters who object to adultery for moral reasons that have nothing to do with the bible. In those circumstances, the gay analogy makes no sense and could easily be perceived as offensive. 

    For her, fortunately, at least the Bible writer wasn`t a racist, right?

    I think you’re being sarcastic, but this is another good example of how people’s interpretation of the Bible has evolved with time. For the longest time, the curse of Canaan (son of Ham) was frequently used  as a justification for slavery, discrimination and even the exclusion of blacks from certain churches (such as the LDS). The theory of blacks being the cursed descendants of Ham has been debunked,   but it’s just another example of why people shouldn’t take moral cues from the bible, which is the point that Fantasia was not-so-elegantly trying to make. I think she really needs someone to edit her tweets in the future!!!

  • Jablea

    She could easily be saying that she is in favor of pot smoking, in favor of gay marriage, both things the bible depending upon interpretation isn’t in favor of.  And then saying since these things are accepted by society, ie legal, then why are people judging her.  I don’t see anything other than her lumping herself with the other two things.

  • ZsusK

    but to date scientists have yet to prove evolution, so in my books the species remain as the Bible says individual species!

    Well then, that was one hell of a huge ark Noah built as there are anywhere between 3 and 30 MILLION species of animals on the planet.  And he delivered them all to safety two-by-two. At least, that’s what the Bible says. Thus, proof that it happened!

  • James M.

    Agreed, and Fantasia ain’t the only one.

    She’s entitled to her opinion and all that. I’d just hope her opinion would be educated and not ignorant. But, you know, letting your political stance come out doesn’t usually let you win either way. If Fantasia were to be supportive of gay marriage, she would’ve lost some fans as well. Remember when the Dixie Chicks announced their support of gay marriage? They were unfortunately lambasted.

    “That is what is great about this country-we don’t have to agree with it
    if we don’t want to, and we can be supporters of it if we want to.”

    The downside of this is that some people don’t agree with some ethical or scientifically proven values and they are not educated enough to form opinions on it, including politicians and people with power.

  • Enough already!

    Once again while I totally disagree with her, and do not particularly think she is a role model for modern women, she has the right to her opinions. 

  • biggmamajama


  • Jordana33

    We’ve all said things that have been misinterpreted or interpreted out of context and  we’ve all made ambiguous statements that could have been phrased more clearly.  I really think that people need to examine the person and the context of the remarks, before embarking on a Fantasia witch hunt. For what it’s worth, below are some articles that talk about Fantasia headlining various gay pride events. I’m a firm believer that actions sometimes speak louder than words, and Fantasia has openly shown a lot more support for gay rights than most American Idol winners, so I think she should be given the benefit of the doubt.  Personally, I found a lot of the comments in response to Fantasia’s tweet far more offensive and demeaning than anything Fantasia said, regardless of the interpretation.Article about Fantasia headlining DC’s black pride event: and interview regarding her headlining of the 2009 gay pride event in LA: about her performing for Atlanta’s Black Gay Pride events in 2010 and 2012.

  • iluvai

    I’d reserve that word for Jenny McCarthy.

  • breakdown

    She has a right to her opinion and I have a right not to agree. Or buy her story. Or buy her music.

  • iluvai

    You are so right.

  • Ronnie D

    Bigotry is bigotry, regardless if the person is black or white. Obama was a bigot 5 years ago. For whatever reason he had the “opinion” that gay’s shouldn’t be allowed the same rights to marry as heterosexuals do. And if asked why, I bet he would have pulled a Bible verse out of his ass to defend it. Using your religious beliefs to rationalize your reasoning for not allowing others the same rights is bigotry! And yes, I do equate gay rights with black rights. Civil Rights are civil rights! Gays have been murdered, hung on barbed wire fences, beaten with baseball bats. You couldn’t even call your self gay up until about 30 years ago, and to this day they are usually ridiculed for it. So yeah, it is a rather complex issue just as much the plight of African Americans is.

  • Jonathan Frahm

    Not classy, hooker.

  • Jordana33

    MJ, if it’s Ok for people to say that Fantasia’s comments are offensive I don’t understand why we’re being moderated for saying that the responses to her comments are offensive and demeaning. If you post 30 response tweets in your headline, it seems reasonable to assume that we can comment on them. 

  • Connie

     As I see it, freedom of speech never ends. It will always affect someone. Every life is a by product of society. Your a bible thumper, Your a jew, Your a honky, Your a Dego, and so many more, but you get the idea. We have all heard those terms. Not everyone is going to support gay marriage and it should not be expected that they will. Just as being gay does not make someone a bad person, neither does not being gay. Society has comedians who use these slurs daily to make fun of differences. We all laugh. That is why we all know them. I hate the word homophobic. It is used to imply non support as hate. The gay community sets themselves apart by using this word in the context it is not meant to be used. Any rights given to any select group of people were hard fought battles and this is no different. The heart and the mind must meet if it is to happen.

  • Connie

    How exactly is she hurting people. It is just an opinion. Everyone has one. You have the right to express your opinion. Hers just does not match yours. And yes, when you are fighting for rights, you do have to deal with those who disagree, but that choice is yours. You can choose ambivalence or indifference. You know going in and are aware that not everyone feels the same. Otherwise, what is the fight all about, acceptance is not an easy feat.

  • Connie

    arkboy 1 day ago
    it has never mattered to me one way or the other how anyone else lives
    their life. If gays want to marry, I won’t be impacted one way or

     Indifference. My life will not change because the next door neighbors are gay, or the lady I work with is a lesbian.

  • Beaugard Stevens

    I think it was taken out of context, she wasn’t saying she didn’t approve of those things, it was saying the Bible seems to frown on it- although honestly, I don’t think the Bible mentions marijuana at all, so talking about “weed” doesn’t make sense, but she was just trying to make a broader point, she wasn’t thinking it through, I don’t think she was condemning anyone or anything.  She has a lot of haters though who won’t listen and relish the opportunity to go on the attack.

  • Connie

    Science and religion, ‘never that train shall meet.’


    Come on now, what she said is correct – she is slammed for everything she does, and we do have a world gone mad! Gay’s and drug attics — get a grip it is wrong! Your life and what you do with it is between you and God — noone else really cares.

  • Love Frazer

    all you guys are wrong fantasia supports gay marriage you guys need to take a look back at that second pic and you guys judge ppl all the time and every time you see something that you feel that person is doing wrong you take it into a negative situation