Comments on: Ellen Degeneres on the Oprah Winfrey Show – VIDEO http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm American Idol - I Love This Cheesy Show Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: justjude http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-486046 justjude Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:30:41 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-486046 Clearone, I heard that is happening on 12, 1, 09. Clearone,
I heard that is happening on 12, 1, 09.

]]> By: iluvai http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-484448 iluvai Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:14:18 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-484448 <blockquote>Did Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Eddie Vedder etc. have a vast technical background? Or do they just rock? There's something to be said about judging entertainment value and recognizing when an artist transcends technicality into something unique and commercially viable/appealing. I could really care less how Adam uses his tongue on stage. In fact' ¦I'd like to stay in the dark about that kind of stuff. It kinda zaps the fun out of it for me. I use my ears to tell me what sounds good. That'll do.</blockquote> <blockquote>The same thing should have been told to Kris about his side mouth singing and jaw and neck tension. Except fangirls think it's so cute. It is far from it. It's a very bad habit which he stipulates to. And if you watch the new video and his Napa performances, to his credit he's almost beaten the side mouth deal. The tension, no, and it's holding him back from a good sound. But hey, whatever floats your boat. Sometimes you need to flatten your tongue to invoke a 'Danny'  type thicker sound. Or if you need to relax your vocal chords. Or change the pathway of air back there. It's also an exercise. But NEVER EVER does one need a side mouth or tense jaw and neck. And Dylan would have never won AI, that is a true statement.</blockquote> The side mouth thing of Kris' was way more distracting/icky than Adams tongue, imho.

Did Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Eddie Vedder etc. have a vast technical background? Or do they just rock? There’s something to be said about judging entertainment value and recognizing when an artist transcends technicality into something unique and commercially viable/appealing. I could really care less how Adam uses his tongue on stage. In fact’ ¦I’d like to stay in the dark about that kind of stuff. It kinda zaps the fun out of it for me. I use my ears to tell me what sounds good. That’ll do.

The same thing should have been told to Kris about his side mouth singing and jaw and neck tension. Except fangirls think it’s so cute. It is far from it. It’s a very bad habit which he stipulates to. And if you watch the new video and his Napa performances, to his credit he’s almost beaten the side mouth deal. The tension, no, and it’s holding him back from a good sound. But hey, whatever floats your boat. Sometimes you need to flatten your tongue to invoke a ‘Danny’  type thicker sound. Or if you need to relax your vocal chords. Or change the pathway of air back there. It’s also an exercise. But NEVER EVER does one need a side mouth or tense jaw and neck. And Dylan would have never won AI, that is a true statement.

The side mouth thing of Kris’ was way more distracting/icky than Adams tongue, imho.

]]> By: media bias http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-483845 media bias Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:25:40 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-483845 The same thing should have been told to Kris about his side mouth singing and jaw and neck tension. Except fangirls think it's so cute. It is far from it. It's a very bad habit which he stipulates to. And if you watch the new video and his Napa performances, to his credit he's almost beaten the side mouth deal. The tension, no, and it's holding him back from a good sound. But hey, whatever floats your boat. Sometimes you need to flatten your tongue to invoke a "Danny" type thicker sound. Or if you need to relax your vocal chords. Or change the pathway of air back there. It's also an exercise. But NEVER EVER does one need a side mouth or tense jaw and neck. And Dylan would have never won AI, that is a true statement. The same thing should have been told to Kris about his side mouth singing and jaw and neck tension. Except fangirls think it’s so cute. It is far from it. It’s a very bad habit which he stipulates to. And if you watch the new video and his Napa performances, to his credit he’s almost beaten the side mouth deal. The tension, no, and it’s holding him back from a good sound. But hey, whatever floats your boat. Sometimes you need to flatten your tongue to invoke a “Danny” type thicker sound. Or if you need to relax your vocal chords. Or change the pathway of air back there. It’s also an exercise. But NEVER EVER does one need a side mouth or tense jaw and neck. And Dylan would have never won AI, that is a true statement.

]]> By: ianaleah http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-483449 ianaleah Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:47:11 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-483449 I became bored with American Idol, skipped some seasons, never finished others, loved a couple and voted 4 straight hours for Adam Lambert -he was the only reason I tuned in each week. I also like Ellen's show,know she likes hip hop, which I do not, and I know the position of the tongue is significant for certain songs. If a judge condemened Adam for his tongue, Adam may have corrected that judge- and that would turn off some people, and if not correcting that judge-being rediculed would have gone against the contestant too. Don't hurt 'my adam,' babe,grrrr.But, yeah, Ellen will livin up the show and make it fun. Smart move, AI. I became bored with American Idol, skipped some seasons, never finished others, loved a couple and voted 4 straight hours for Adam Lambert -he was the only reason I tuned in each week. I also like Ellen’s show,know she likes hip hop, which I do not, and I know the position of the tongue is significant for certain songs. If a judge condemened Adam for his tongue, Adam may have corrected that judge- and that would turn off some people, and if not correcting that judge-being rediculed would have gone against the contestant too. Don’t hurt ‘my adam,’ babe,grrrr.But, yeah, Ellen will livin up the show and make it fun. Smart move, AI.

]]> By: clearone http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-483395 clearone Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:56:21 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-483395 <blockquote>Speaking of Ellen (and I am sooooo excited, cant stand it) but '“ I get the Ellen tickets this year from our station and guess what taping I get to go to!!! THE ONE THAT ADAM LAMBERT WILL BE TAPING WITH HER, CAN YA SAY EXCITED, CAN YA?? ok '“ thats all '“ carry on </blockquote> ...and when might this be?

Speaking of Ellen (and I am sooooo excited, cant stand it) but ‘“ I get the Ellen tickets this year from our station and guess what taping I get to go to!!! THE ONE THAT ADAM LAMBERT WILL BE TAPING WITH HER, CAN YA SAY EXCITED, CAN YA?? ok ‘“ thats all ‘“ carry on

…and when might this be?

]]> By: IdolThoughts http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-483291 IdolThoughts Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:19:28 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-483291 Did Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Eddie Vedder etc. have a vast technical background? Or do they just rock? There's something to be said about judging entertainment value and recognizing when an artist transcends technicality into something unique and commercially viable/appealing. I could really care less how Adam uses his tongue on stage. In fact...I'd like to stay in the dark about that kind of stuff. It kinda zaps the fun out of it for me. I use my ears to tell me what sounds good. That'll do. Did Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Eddie Vedder etc. have a vast technical background? Or do they just rock? There’s something to be said about judging entertainment value and recognizing when an artist transcends technicality into something unique and commercially viable/appealing. I could really care less how Adam uses his tongue on stage. In fact…I’d like to stay in the dark about that kind of stuff. It kinda zaps the fun out of it for me. I use my ears to tell me what sounds good. That’ll do.

]]> By: media bias http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-483193 media bias Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:07:08 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-483193 Well MJ was the one who blogged with opening with the Adam comment and the joke about the tongue. There was no rant. The comment MJ made about it backfiring invited comment. And if you google tongue damaging vocal techniques you can read all about it. It's a PROFESSIONAL TOPIC. They are taught not to use it but some still will when they feel it adds to or "need to" in certain performances. If the "judge" had any vocal training at all, she'd have known. It's way different than her sticking up for Ethan because Nigel really mocked his face -- it's natural properties, NOT his expressions but his actual face. I gave her huge props for her rant about that on SYTYCD but overall I did not enjoy what she brought to the show at all. Some people are actually interested in technical things on these shows not just who is "cutest" or a "trainwreck". Adam was asked about the tongue and his reply was "yeah it comes out every now and then". A vocal teacher would read that as him acknowledging obtusely that he's using it occasionally which can be criticized. The Masterclass Lady person reviews all of their techniques every week so it's not about just fangirling. Well, unless you're discussing Idols with absolutely NO technique or training which is 90% of them. in which case, for me reading her critiques is fun to see if my opinion bears any semblance of legitimacy. Well MJ was the one who blogged with opening with the Adam comment and the joke about the tongue. There was no rant. The comment MJ made about it backfiring invited comment. And if you google tongue damaging vocal techniques you can read all about it. It’s a PROFESSIONAL TOPIC. They are taught not to use it but some still will when they feel it adds to or “need to” in certain performances.

If the “judge” had any vocal training at all, she’d have known. It’s way different than her sticking up for Ethan because Nigel really mocked his face — it’s natural properties, NOT his expressions but his actual face. I gave her huge props for her rant about that on SYTYCD but overall I did not enjoy what she brought to the show at all.

Some people are actually interested in technical things on these shows not just who is “cutest” or a “trainwreck”. Adam was asked about the tongue and his reply was “yeah it comes out every now and then”. A vocal teacher would read that as him acknowledging obtusely that he’s using it occasionally which can be criticized. The Masterclass Lady person reviews all of their techniques every week so it’s not about just fangirling. Well, unless you’re discussing Idols with absolutely NO technique or training which is 90% of them. in which case, for me reading her critiques is fun to see if my opinion bears any semblance of legitimacy.

]]> By: sumidol http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-483179 sumidol Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:01:26 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-483179 Speaking of Ellen (and I am sooooo excited, cant stand it) but - I get the Ellen tickets this year from our station and guess what taping I get to go to!!! THE ONE THAT ADAM LAMBERT WILL BE TAPING WITH HER, CAN YA SAY EXCITED, CAN YA?? ok - thats all - carry on Speaking of Ellen (and I am sooooo excited, cant stand it) but – I get the Ellen tickets this year from our station and guess what taping I get to go to!!! THE ONE THAT ADAM LAMBERT WILL BE TAPING WITH HER, CAN YA SAY EXCITED, CAN YA?? ok – thats all – carry on

]]> By: justjude http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-483101 justjude Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:51:21 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-483101 Ellen using musical critiques.......MMMM....Not so much.!!! I mean,REALLY, no one uses strictly musical references. But all of them are very familiar with music in some way Certainly Randy, Kara and Simon are directly involved with the Music biz. Ellen like many fans, loves Music ,and, She listens to ,and chooses, music and singers on a constant, ongoing basis. She is well credentialed in her interest in new and upcoming artists. She, like many fans, can assess uniqueness, tone ,pitch, and if any given person can carry a tune, as well ,as what is relevant, and who is, or is not, charismatic. I hear mini critiques almost everytime I log in here......I'm talking about most of you, Yeah!!!! I believe this will be a learning curve for Ellen. thank goodness she is a pretty quick study!!! Well I know who Adam is " That Fierce Alien with an incredible tongue!!! He uses it to pleasure our ears, brains, and HEARTS. So who are Clay Justin or Nathaniel and Why should I care about them in connection to Ellen?????!!!!!! Ellen using musical critiques…….MMMM….Not so much.!!!
I mean,REALLY, no one uses strictly musical references. But all of them are very familiar with music in some way Certainly Randy, Kara and Simon are directly involved with the Music biz. Ellen like many fans, loves Music ,and, She listens to ,and chooses, music and singers on a constant, ongoing basis. She is well credentialed in her interest in new and upcoming artists. She, like many fans, can assess uniqueness, tone ,pitch, and if any given person can carry a tune, as well ,as what is relevant, and who is, or is not, charismatic. I hear mini critiques almost everytime I log in here……I’m talking about most of you, Yeah!!!!
I believe this will be a learning curve for Ellen. thank goodness she is a
pretty quick study!!!
Well I know who Adam is ” That Fierce Alien with an incredible tongue!!!
He uses it to pleasure our ears, brains, and HEARTS.
So who are Clay Justin or Nathaniel and Why should I care about them
in connection to Ellen?????!!!!!!

]]> By: Squirrely http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-483092 Squirrely Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:16:43 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-483092 Ellen and Portia are great together more real then when she was with Anne Heche. Portia seems beautiful in and out. I wish Adam this kind of happiness and hopefully when he finds his soul mate he will be able to marry and have it recognized. <blockquote> The position of tongue for notes is significant </blockquote> I could make some really dirty comments about this, but I'll be a lady...for once ;) ETA: <blockquote>Why not say Clay Aiken or Nathaniel Marshal? There relevant to the topic. </blockquote> And so if Clay was mentioned you would not be ranting? That makes no sense. Ellen and Portia are great together more real then when she was with Anne Heche. Portia seems beautiful in and out. I wish Adam this kind of happiness and hopefully when he finds his soul mate he will be able to marry and have it recognized.

The position of tongue for notes is significant

I could make some really dirty comments about this, but I’ll be a lady…for once ;)

ETA:

Why not say Clay Aiken or Nathaniel Marshal? There relevant to the topic.

And so if Clay was mentioned you would not be ranting? That makes no sense.

]]> By: ianaleah http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-483049 ianaleah Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:08:54 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-483049 The position of tongue for notes is significant, and Adam know what he is doing, so I hope Ellen is careful in what she says, cuz !. I am a mother hen when it comes to contestants but 2. I want Ellen to do well and make it useful but fun for the contestants The position of tongue for notes is significant, and Adam know what he is doing, so I hope Ellen is careful in what she says, cuz !. I am a mother hen when it comes to contestants but 2. I want Ellen to do well and make it useful but fun for the contestants

]]> By: skat-girl@allycatlover http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-482947 skat-girl@allycatlover Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:11:56 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-482947 <blockquote> It's pretty relevant since he's a GAY person and they were talking about GAY rights to get married' ¦ and Ellen brought up ADAM in her interview' ¦ besides that it was an observation' ¦ said by one person, me' ¦your 'rant'  drew more attention to it than my lone comment did since you're the only one who responded.</blockquote> Why not say Clay Aiken or Nathaniel Marshal? There relevant to the topic. did you post on Justin's wedding post hoping all the straight idols could get married and know that joy? since that's pretty relevant since it was a STRAIGHT wedding and most idols are STRAIGHT. oh and yeah she brought him up for like 20 seconds and a good amount comments are making it all about him, and it's not just on this post it's pretty much every post. This post wasn't actually that bad but that comment was the breaking point cause that was the example of Adam fans grasping at straws to talk about him and think it's all about him IMO. oh and that's just and observation by one person ... me

It’s pretty relevant since he’s a GAY person and they were talking about GAY rights to get married’ ¦ and Ellen brought up ADAM in her interview’ ¦ besides that it was an observation’ ¦ said by one person, me’ ¦your ‘rant’  drew more attention to it than my lone comment did since you’re the only one who responded.

Why not say Clay Aiken or Nathaniel Marshal? There relevant to the topic. did you post on Justin’s wedding post hoping all the straight idols could get married and know that joy? since that’s pretty relevant since it was a STRAIGHT wedding and most idols are STRAIGHT. oh and yeah she brought him up for like 20 seconds and a good amount comments are making it all about him, and it’s not just on this post it’s pretty much every post. This post wasn’t actually that bad but that comment was the breaking point cause that was the example of Adam fans grasping at straws to talk about him and think it’s all about him IMO.

oh and that’s just and observation by one person … me

]]> By: alwaysintrouble http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-482850 alwaysintrouble Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:41:44 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-482850 <blockquote>ugh. Why do Adam fans have to make every post on this site somehow about Adam? it's starting to get on my nerves. </blockquote> It's pretty relevant since he's a GAY person and they were talking about GAY rights to get married... and Ellen brought up ADAM in her interview... besides that it was an observation... said by one person, me...your "rant" drew more attention to it than my lone comment did since you're the only one who responded.

ugh. Why do Adam fans have to make every post on this site somehow about Adam? it’s starting to get on my nerves.

It’s pretty relevant since he’s a GAY person and they were talking about GAY rights to get married… and Ellen brought up ADAM in her interview… besides that it was an observation… said by one person, me…your “rant” drew more attention to it than my lone comment did since you’re the only one who responded.

]]> By: skat-girl@allycatlover http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-482729 skat-girl@allycatlover Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:58:56 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-482729 <blockquote> After watching Ellen and Portia's wedding video it's my sincere hope that Adam gets to know that same joy some day. ugh. Why do Adam fans have to make every post on this site somehow about Adam? it's starting to get on my nerves. end rant now.</blockquote>

After watching Ellen and Portia’s wedding video it’s my sincere hope that Adam gets to know that same joy some day.

ugh. Why do Adam fans have to make every post on this site somehow about Adam? it’s starting to get on my nerves.

end rant now.

]]> By: Mark http://www.mjsbigblog.com/ellen-degeneres-on-the-oprah-winfrey-show-video.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-482724 Mark Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:56:32 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=11815#comment-482724 <blockquote>IMO, one of the biggest things this show has always lacked is a judge who can actually give an informed critique of a contestant's vocal and musical abilities.</blockquote> I sometimes wonder if that's purposeful on the part of the show, but I really do wish they did have a panel member who really could do that. Perhaps the show thinks someone who could would be deemed too "boring". But there just doesn't seem to be an interest in that, from the way they've been selecting judges, and I wish I knew why. I have to assume they realize that no member of that panel is giving a strongly informed musical critique... right?

IMO, one of the biggest things this show has always lacked is a judge who can actually give an informed critique of a contestant’s vocal and musical abilities.

I sometimes wonder if that’s purposeful on the part of the show, but I really do wish they did have a panel member who really could do that. Perhaps the show thinks someone who could would be deemed too “boring”. But there just doesn’t seem to be an interest in that, from the way they’ve been selecting judges, and I wish I knew why. I have to assume they realize that no member of that panel is giving a strongly informed musical critique… right?

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