I still disapprove of the performance on the AMA, but it’s Adam’s decision to do what he wants or needs to do. Right now someone is giving him good advice.

As has been said many times before, just being out in Adam’s circumstances is inherently political. Some people talk and write about change; Adam acts on it.

In the long run the controversy is good. The only controversies that usually seem to effect performers adversely are lip-synching or other fakery(a la Milli Vanilli).

Could it be said that television is entering the Post-Lambert Era?

The REAL POINT of ABC’s decision is that Adam DEVIATED FROM HIS SCRIPTED REHEARSAL and BLINDSIDED the network. The content of the performance was NOT CLEARED by ABC. If ABC had known he was going to do this, they would have either told him he couldn’t, or at the very least been prepared to black out the inappropriate material.

I agree. ABC was within their rights to respond as they did. I’m sure it didn’t help that Adam said right after the show that if they bleeped parts out on the west coast, it would be discrimination. You can’t bite the hand that feeds you. I’d say, if you can’t tone it down for television, or go along with the rules, then don’t do television. Anyway, sounds like he is now willing to cooperate and compromise, which is necessary in today’s business world, especially for someone starting out.

For myself I will still know that this side of Adam exists (the dominant, mean, aggressive side that he exhibited in the performance) and wonder about it. Like everyone else, I form my own opinions about him. Today’s tweets were a plus to me. If he can learn from his errors it will be good for him (as for anyone).

In general I don’t care for corporations or capitalism, but if you’re going to play the game and reap the rewards that network television can bestow, you have to expect to play within the rules. Or at least expect to get bleeped.

The numbers on the HDD site are the Nielsen SoundScan Building Chart

No, they’re not. HDD and Nielsen SoundScan (which is the one used by Billboard) are completely different entities. HDD makes estimates from info they gather from retailers, Nielsen counts scans (of the barcode) at the point of sale.

HDD is useful as a preview of what might to come on SoundScan and Billboard, but they’re not considered official numbers.

I agree with this…one thing you always heard about him on AI is how he is a “strategist”, and always seemed to always have a plan. I think he new exactly what he was going to do on the AMAs before it happened, and it would not surprise me at all, if his management did also.

The REAL POINT of ABC’s decision is that Adam DEVIATED FROM HIS SCRIPTED REHEARSAL and BLINDSIDED the network. The content of the performance was NOT CLEARED by ABC. If ABC had known he was going to do this, they would have either told him he couldn’t, or at the very least been prepared to black out the inappropriate material.

And yet throughout the broadcast, ABC didn’t miss a single opportunity to pimp Adam’s closing performance as a showstopper that would be THE watercooler topic the next day.

Blindsided? Don’t think so. ABC got exactly what it wanted…and a little more besides. Ratings were huge for the AMAs, they would have been huge for the GMA broadcast later in the week. Money talks, except when someone with a lot of influence over even more money does the talking and I think that’s what happened in the board room overnight.

“The REAL POINT of ABC’s decision is that Adam DEVIATED FROM HIS SCRIPTED REHEARSAL and BLINDSIDED the network. The content of the performance was NOT CLEARED by ABC;”

This is very emphatic for something that is just a theory, with no more weight than any of the other theories we all pull out of our asses. People can project their own opinions about the performance onto ABC’s subsequent actions, but we’re never really gonna know the whole story. Stating it as if it was fact in the strongest terms possible does not actually make it fact.

It is fact. ABC has said so. Adam has admitted it and said he has learned not to deviate from what is rehearsed.

Apologies for the overemphasis, but people keep talking about the content not being any worse than we see on TV or saw from the other performers that night, when that is not the issue.

ABC’s stated issue has been Adam performed outside the script. Yes, we can believe that reasoning is a smokescreen and ABC is saying that to cover its a** because of the complaints. However, the fact remains, Adam did perform outside the script and there were consequences. Again, those consequences of 1500 complaints – an insignificant number – and a nuisance complaint to the FCC from the Liberty people – can be deemed of no consequence. However, ABC now has to deal with this fall out – whether or not we consider it important.

As a professional entertainer, which Adam certainly is, he knew better than to do what he did but he did it anyway.

So, ABC is making an example of him. I hope this doesn’t limit his future TV appearances on other networks. He needs those to build his fan base. Where are the bookings for Leno, Conan, SNL, Regis & Kelly, etc.? He should be making appearances everywhere. His album is great. His performances of those songs is great. People need to see this – repeatedly – and he needs TV for that exposure.

The REAL POINT of ABC’s decision is that Adam DEVIATED FROM HIS SCRIPTED REHEARSAL and BLINDSIDED the network

I also get the feeling this whole debate get out of sight the that is a normal situation, which happen everyday on a smaller level.
If you hire someone to paint a room in your house and you tell him, what you want, but when you come back he has used his artistic inspiration and the room look liked nothing you wanted, you also would complain.
And if at that moment your family and friends would come to take a look at that room and some are got a bad impression, you surely would the next time you have something to paint take precautionary measure, that is won’t happen again.

And for me that is all I see in this story.

The numbers on the HDD site are the Nielsen SoundScan Building Chart ‘” it show sales from 8 retailers. 37.7% of locations have reported, mostly Walmart. The Miley Album is only available at Walmart.

The Building Chart is about 80% of sales, not all sales. It includes Walmart, Target. BestBuy, iTunes, Anderson, Starbucks and Borders plus some jobbers who stock Walmart music departments.

Thank you. I think I get it, now.

The REAL POINT of ABC’s decision is that Adam DEVIATED FROM HIS SCRIPTED REHEARSAL and BLINDSIDED the network. The content of the permance was NOT CLEARED by ABC;

This is very emphatic for something that is just a theory, with no more weight than any of the other theories we all pull out of our asses. People can project their own opinions about the performance onto ABC’s subsequent actions, but we’re never really gonna know the whole story. Stating it as if it was fact in the strongest terms possible does not actually make it fact.

acmomof3,

cont. It’s all in the name of friendy Idol discussion and Adam Lambert –especially in this thread.

So, for Adam being blackballed for presenting a bit of ‘life’  that goes on everyday in many households (and bondage is as much a hetero sexual pleasure as a gay one) would seem pretty far fetched.

The REAL POINT of ABC’s decision is that Adam DEVIATED FROM HIS SCRIPTED REHEARSAL and BLINDSIDED the network. The content of the performance was NOT CLEARED by ABC. If ABC had known he was going to do this, they would have either told him he couldn’t, or at the very least been prepared to black out the inappropriate material.

There were plenty of bleeps in the live broadcast I heard for the other performers. We can discuss until the cows come home how unfair, etc., but IF the other performers stayed with their scripts and ABC had cleared their profanity, etc., alerting their sound and camera people to beware, then all the responsibility for the other dreck is on ABC.

In this case, ABC did NOT know and, for the moment, ABC now feels Adam can’t be trusted. It is not what he did – it is the WAY he did it. Whether it was impulsive or planned (as many people think), Adam ended up in ABC’s eyes as a loose cannon.

There has to be a financial reason (and I don’t mean fines because their is absolute NOTHING finable in Adam’s performance) that ABC/Disney took the low road’ ¦.and the best bet is some big wig advertiser with lots of clout decided his wife or mistress as the case may be was a little bit ‘skeered’  by the performance and he wanted to let the network know his displeasure.

How about nuisance lawsuits? Although without foundation, these still cost the network money and irritation. They don’t book newcomers expect that out of the gate they might be subject to litigation.

Yes, it could be an irritated advertiser. Much more likely, ABC is playing hardball on this because they are making of example of Adam – an entertainer who does not perform as he tells them he will.

‘I’m going in another direction and I’ll never do that again’ . No apology there. Riiiiight. Hypocrisy, thy name is Adam Lambert.

Except that hypocrisy has an entirely different definition. Just making up a definition doesn’t make it true.

Btw, did you really think he was going to kiss guys and simulate bjs at all subsequent performances?

I think some people do or at the very least hope he was.

I agree in that some major sponsor is the catalyst for all of this but it is never a bad thing for any corporation to review it’s policies on anything.

acmomof3
11/30/2009 at 4:41 pm
Oh, and the fact that at least once a week, I hear about a special needs child that gets left on a bus all day or gets dropped off at the wrong place. And since one of my kids is a special needs child, this really hits home.

I understand and realize you “are not judging”. Everything is a matter of perspective. For instance, my son is also an SDC student and he and his friends have ridden a yellow bus every school day for the last six years without incident.

Good parent, bad parent . No point in throwing stones. I realize you are not trying to point fingers and the reason for your frustration with the AMA show is clear. I think it is all a matter of perspective and personal choice.

My eldest, is fifteen. While she is obviously old enough to see a PG-14 awards show, she is not old enough to see a Rated R film without me or an adult of whom I approve –and she has seen rated R movies in the past. It was my choice to let her do so. I’m okay with that decision. I still think of myself as a good parent, even though others may feel my decision less than wise. I’m okay with that, too.