David Cook’s Next Single, “Come Back to Me” Impacts Radio 3/30

Wasn’t “Come Back to Me” the LEAST popular out of the three songs tested? SIGH.

Whyyyyyyyy this one?

Wrong choice, methinks.

Alrighty then, I guess we’ll see what happens…wish I could say I was excited. At least it’s a fresh song.

I’m on board. It is not my favorite by a long shot, but it is probably one of the friendliest songs on the album for Top 40. I do think the add date is extremely far away, though. Hopefully HCR gets it sooner.
Bright spots – it will be amazing live on the Idol stage, it has a theme that’s universal enough to draw people in, and if Dave could actually play lead in the video that would be made of awesome.

PS – I’m happy it’s not Declaration. Sorry if that’s blasphemy, but that song is too similar to LO and I think it would’ve done worse, not better. I hope the 3rd single will be Heroes, that song could be a nice change in pace after two mid-tempo singles, and I think it could do well on Top 40, too.

I think the impact date is March 30, not 31. Hot AC impacts on Mondays instead of Tuesdays like Top 40.

I actually like come back to me and think it will play well on the radio, but I just wish one of the songs david wrote would be released next. He’s got such a way with words – time for the rest of the world (i.e. non cook stalkers) to be slayed by the stroke of his pen.

I hope the 3rd single will be Heroes, that song could be a nice change in pace after two mid-tempo singles, and I think it could do well on Top 40, too.

I second the Heroes nomination!

It’s certainly not my favorite song on DCTR. However, I’ve always felt that it was one of the most radio friendly songs on the album… so yep, I’m on board.

Wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Come Back to Meà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  the LEAST popular out of the three songs tested? SIGH.

If I recall, it sold well when his album was released.

I actually don’t think it’s more poppy than other songs on his album (save Bar-Ba-Sol, obviously). It’s a perfect fit for Hot AC, in fact. But I think it’s more melodic and relaxing than LO, which is kind of an anxious midtempo ballad.

If I could choose any song off his album to do the best on Top 40 it would be Heroes.

I’m sure my Top 40 station will pick this up. They’re a pseudo-Hot AC station with touches of R&B. So it will get some Top 40 stations on board, even without a Top 40 add date yet.

Well RCA certainly did some market testing so I’m going to assume they know what they are doing. I’m just grateful to have a new song to talk about.

I’m cool with this one. I really like this song. And as the Idol winner, he HAS to fit into Top 40 and Pop radio to be successful. The hard rockers will definitely not do that for him. But I do agree that I’d also LOVE for Heroes to make it as a single too.

I commented on the headlines thread. I’m not thrilled but I’m not dismayed either. A little disappointed and slightly annoyed maybe. I really wanted it to be Lie, as I think Lie is a better song with loads of crossover potential and oddly appealing to men.

But, whadda I know, I’m just a fan. And, I do believe there were worse choices to be made, even if all the songs are good imo.

ok…gotta admit, this song is my guilty pleasure song off the album. I really like it but YMMV. But good lord could they wait any longer???

Wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Come Back to Meà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  the LEAST popular out of the three songs tested? SIGH.

I don’t think we ever got an answer to that, and if anything it could have been the most popular.
It had great sales without promo, compared to the others. I remember it beating Declaration in Canada (probably not a great ammount of sales, but can speak for its popularity).

I think it’s a good choice. To me, better than Declaration. If they wanted the uptempo one, Heroes would be better.

I remember reading in an article this week that David is performing on idol late march, beging of April. I guess there’s a plan there with the impact date.

Really? They chose CBTM? Well, I guess they know what they are doing. I do like it better than LO and it’s a nice contrast. I just wonder if it will peg David as an HAC/AC type artist.

Please please an uptempo song though if we do a 3rd one, RCA!

eta, and blah, I see that it’s one of those David doesn’t have a writing credit on either.

Idol good-bye song? Doubt it, but just a thought….

I like this song. Maybe the release has something to do with using it as a potential AI goodbye song. Funny, but it’s the only song besides Life on the Moon that I thought could be used. I think it’s the lyric “I’ll let you go I’ll set you free and when you see what you need to see, when you find you come back to me. I hope you find everything that you need I’ll be right here waiting to see you find you…” I mean that lyric goes both ways with leaving family to pursue dreams and with the idea of moving on, good wishes and so on.

I could be talking out my ass, but I do like the song, especially the bridge.

I’ll copy over part of my reaction from the headlines thread because the knee jerk reaction I posted there (“BOOOOOOO!! Sigh.”) has already morphed into a more zen: I see where they’re going with this. Haha, I’m like sheep when it comes to DC, easily appeased.

CBTM is such a poor-manà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s version of ABMB. Also? 3/30 is pretty far from now. Double boo. The one bright spotà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ music video potential. They better let DC play the leading man this time!!

I think they are aiming for an Always Be My Baby repeat. I really think ABMB wouldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been a multiple format radio hit rather than just an AC hit like TOML, if it had been released as a single. TPTBà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s seem like theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re lazily looking at DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s biggest iTunes hits and trying to recreate them. Just like they were aiming for a repeat of Billie Jean with LO (and LO turned out to be a poor manà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s version of LO). Sigh. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll stop. Regardless, I hope CBTM does wellà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got potential.

Aside from what I said above, I guess they’re going with the versatile-vocally plotline for DC. I’m not in love with the lyrics, but lyrical excellence tends not to matter much in the realm of radio hits, so I hope RCA knows what they’re doing. CBTM, I’m rooting for you!

Btw, thanks to soundscene for the insight you provided in the headlines thread on the possibility of a HAC first/CHR later add date. Makes sense.

I see that ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s one of those David doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a writing credit on either.

Bright spot? There are no more of those. RCA will actually have to release a DC penned single next. LOL

Idol good-bye song? Doubt it, but just a thoughtà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

Really? The lyrics don’t work IMHO. I actually took this as a sign someone else is doing this year’s goodbye song.

LOL! The one I least expected, but oh well. I like it. It would make a pretty cool video, too.

I completely agree with Jolene…I too am breathing a sigh of relief that it’s not Declaration, because that song to too similar to LO.

CBTM has one of my favorite lines on the whole album “I can’t fix you. I can’t save you..”

I think it will do well on the radio and help him bring in a slightly different fan base. But to really round out the converts out there, I wish they’d release Bar-ba-sol after that!

maybe he’s trying to dedicate the song to kimberly caldwell.

okà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦gotta admit, this song is my guilty pleasure song off the album. I really like it but YMMV. But good lord could they wait any longer???

I just noticed that CBTM and Avalanche are nearly tied for me for most played song on David’s album, according to iTunes, which never lies. Hell, the whole record is a guilty pleasure for me since I’m usually quite the snob about music. mr cheese laughs at me when he catches me listening to it.

That add date seems really far away so I’m clinging to the hope that there’s an earlier add date in the works for CHR, however unlikely that may be (LO is falling much faster there, so it’s not out of the question) It would be nice for the song to get some decent spins somewhere before he performs it on Idol (rumored to be mid-March or early April)

Isn’t this the song that was selling well when the album debuted. I actually think this is a good song. Too bad he didn’t have a hand in writing it, but he certainly sings it well! It is also my guilty pleasure, just like “My Last Request.”

And as the Idol winner, he HAS to fit into Top 40 and Pop radio to be successful.

I don’t think that’s true, really. While it would be optimal for DC to get some rock airplay to supplement his Hot AC airplay, he doesn’t have to fit Top 40 radio to be successful.

Look at Top 40 radio right now–if you’re not a girl, rhythmic or rap, you’re the exception. Here’s the top 20:

- Taylor Swift (female pop)
- Britney Spears (female pop/dance)
- Lady Gaga (female dance)
- All-American Rejects (exception; alt)
- Beyonce (female rhythmic)
- Pink (female pop)
- Kanye West (heavily rhythmic)
- Kelly Clarkson (female pop)
- The Fray (exception, Hot AC)
- The Pussycat Dolls (female pop)
- TI (rap)
- The Veronicas (female pop)
- TI (rap)
- Flo Rida (heavily rhythmic)
- Ne-Yo (rhythmic)
- Britney Spears (female pop/dance)
- Kevin Rudolf f/Lil Wayne (rhythmic)
- Katy Perry (female pop)
- Jason Mraz (exception, Hot AC)
- Lady Gaga (female dance)

We’ve got a couple songs that would normally be considered Hot AC and one alternative song. The list skews heavily female, and mostly pop, rhythmic or rap. Go further down the top 40 and the trend continues. The only “exceptions” in the remaining 20 are Nickelback, Cook, Thriving Ivory, White Tie Affair, Matt Nathanson and Saving Abel. Of those, only the last three are moving up. It’s tough for a solo male artist that isn’t rhythmic or rap. Female voices are in; and rhythmic is in.

Point is, even as an AI winner, Cook shouldn’t be expected to buck the trend of current top 40 radio. At this point I think it’s better that he’s seen as another artist on the radio rather than the winner of some reality competition. Nobody says Jason Mraz or John Mayer were unsuccessful because they only had one Top 40 hit per album (Mraz actually had no Top 40 hits for his second album). They just realize that they may not be in the particular genre that lends itself to the current Top 40 playlist.

It’s the worst or second worst song on the album, but, as I said elsewhere, it’s exactly the right choice. It’s up-tempo, which gives a bit of variety to his singles catalog following TOML and LO (and before Lie drops, presumably next).

The songs on his CD collectively are interesting because most of them have very poppy hooks that could make them extremely radio-friendly, but they are then grunged over to varying degrees. CBTM has one of the thinnest layers of grunge applied to it, and for that reason it should do very well on radio.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Light Onà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  had a slow start, but is currently #4 on the Billboard Hot Adult Top 40. It peaked at #20 on the Mainstream Top 40 and is currently #2o on the Hot Adult Contemporary Chart.

is that a typo? Last I checked (though I don’t always keep up), LO was 4 or so on HAC, so did you mean to say it’s moved up to #2 on HAC?

ETA: Thanks, Soundscene. Should’ve read more carefully.

I’m disappointed. Why don’t they pick a song he had a hand in writing? also, I thought it would be Declaration, especially since the tour is TDT.

MJ, is that a typo? Last I checked (though I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t always keep up), LO was 4 or so on HAC, so did you mean to say ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s moved up to #2 on HAC?

Billboard names its charts weird.

Hot Adult Top 40: Hot AC
Hot Adult Contemporary: AC

First reaction…NOOOOOOOOOO…WTF? 2nd reaction…well OK then. I don’t skip any songs on DCTR and I suppose this one DOES sound radio-friendly. I think many of the songs on DCTR could be big on radio and personally, I wish I would hear Avalanche on the radio-o-o-o-o-o soon. But then I’d like to hear Fall Back Into Me on the radio. Or Heroes. Or Bar-ba-sol. Or Permanent! Or Straight Ahead. Or Hot for Teacher…heh.

Well I’m not the one who has to choose the next single or the release date, so there ya go. It seems like March 30 is a loooooong time off to wait for the next single though. Of course, I still hear the Magic Rainbow That Wouldn’t Die on the radio! hee.

I love CBTM. Of course, I love all the songs on the album, but still.

Should it be the next single, though? I’m not sure. I guess I’m simply neutral and hope that it does well. lol

I’m thrilled to hear of this news. I have felt that CBTM had the strongest potential to be a big radio hit from early on. It’s got all the ingredients for a radio hit – easy accessible song, catchy chorus, soaring bridge, relatable lyrics. Some reviewers said it had a U2 kind of vibe. I think this song is going to do really well on radio for a very long time, exactly what DC can use right now – a bit radio hit! Get and fill those larger venues, get that multi-platinum album, build the fanbase.

Great move, RCA! Thank you. I can’t wait to hear it start filling the radio airwaves. BTW, I feel confident that it will hit Top 40 within a couple of weeks.

edit: DON’T TELL POSTERS WHAT TO DO. Repeat offenders get put in moderation.

“Come Back To Me” is alright as a single… I just hope “Heroes” and “Lie” are next, ’cause those have HIT stamped all over them.

Yeah, I think having a big HAC hit that charts somewhere in the middle of the top 40 on pop is par for the course these days for mainstream rock acts. Big pop hits are rare for those types, but not impossible. That said I think this is one of the songs that has the most potential on CHR. Either way his genre seems to sell albums even without the pop hits so I don’t know if it matters all that much. Wasn’t rock only 4% off from last year sales wise? He’ll be fine.

I think this song could be huge. It’s definitely the one to bring back that ABMB magic and his voice sounds really pretty from the first note to the last. And then there’s that falsetto to look forward to.
All good!

Avalanche and Come Back to Me both have a wistfulness and vulnerability that only David Cook can convey. In Come Back to Me he does it with a raspy baritone and ends with a wail. In Avalanche he does it with a clear tenor voice and ends it with a falsetto. After a very masculine Light On- where all I could see were soldiers on the front, a slightly neutral song that evokes sadness and hopefulness is the way to go.

Lyrically wish it was a David Cook creation, for his songwriting skills are exceptional and unique. However, in the name of commerce, I will take it.

I love that song, I really hope it does well for him.

Well, I love all the songs on the cd. CBTM isnt my favorite, and if I said I wasnt scared about it, I would be lying. I do like the song very much, and find myself singing along. One thing Ive always thought about the song from the first time I heard it was that the words in it would appeal to alot of people. . “you say you gotta go and find yourself. You say that your becoming someone else” I think alot of people can relate to the songs words….but we shall see………….

I love all the songs on DCTR, so he could release any of them and I’d be happy. I’m just glad they are finally releasing SOMETHING! And, in my extremely biased opinion, I think it should do great on radio. It’s got a very catchy hook – “When you find you, come back to me.” I remember that line sticking in my head when I first started listening to the record.

IMO, I think “A Daily Anthem” would make a great boot song on AI. But, they’ve already used it for a video montage on the show, so I doubt that’s going to happen.

I am happy with this choice. Didn’t want Declaration. But, seriously March 30th? Why?

I love CBTM! When I first got the album, that was one of the songs that I kept listening to over and over again (that and Barbasol heh). I think the lyrics are great.

It is interesting though. I thought it wasn’t going to be picked for the single because DC hasn’t ever sang it on his tour yet…has he? That seems weird to me. It seems like he’d be trying it out. I am really happy with the choice though.

But, seriously March 30th? Why?

Even though it has an add date of March 30th, it will probably get airplay pretty soon though right? Maybe in a few weeks?

CBTM is one of my least favorite songs on the album, along with Light On. It just sounds to me like another song that’s manufactured to be a radio hit (and it probably will be a hit), which is kind of annoying, given what a great songwriter he is. I’ve figured all along that this song was on the record to be a single, but I’d hoped that the record was selling well enough that they’d decide to put out one of his own songs, which are all way better songs, IMHO. No such luck, I guess.

So, 6 more months of having him sing a song I dislike, every time he’s on my TV screen. At least, as others have said, after this they have to release his songs if they’re releasing singles from the album.

It’s not my favorite song (heroes, avalanche) but I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it’ll prove to be popular with the masses.

I was hoping it would be “Lie To Me” or “Bar-B-Sol”. I don’t mind Come Back To me, though..and actually…I think it has potential as the Idol “kick off” song.

Even though it has an add date of March 30th, it will probably get airplay pretty soon though right? Maybe in a few weeks?

It’s a Hot AC add date so March 30 would be around the time that LO really starts to die in that format. It’s already dying, but it’s still at #5 on mediabase.

Whether it gets played early depends on RCA’s strategy for the song.

Actually, David and band has performed CBTM 2 (out of 4) times so far, the same amount as Avalanche.

I actually think this is a good song. Too bad he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a hand in writing it, but he certainly sings it well! It is also my guilty pleasure, just like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“My Last Request.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Totally agree and I’m so glad to see someone else loves My Last Request too!
I’m fine with CBTM as the next single for all the reasons others above have stated. RCA has done a great job with David so far and I have no reason to think they don’t know what they’re doing. I’m just happy we’re getting a new single and I can’t wait to see David and the guys perform this on AI!

Now that I am past the disappointment of it not being Declaration, I think it’s a wise idea to have CBTM as the next single. I think it well be a huge hit on top 40. And I can’t wait until David is a multi-platinum selling artist. I think that he could easily sell 4 times platinum like some of the other idols. And he will also probably win Grammys as well. Move over Beatles, Elvis, U2, Rolling Stones we have a new king in town and his name is King David.

Gosh, another single DC didn’t write? RCA isn’t showing much confidence in his vaunted writing skills!

Seriously though, nobody outside of AI fandom knows or cares who wrote the songs. He’d probably make more money if RCA would release a song he wrote but they don’t seem inclined to do it yet. If there is a third single it should be Avalanche. I’m fine with CBTM as the new single. It’s a good choice.

This will do nothing for his rock cred.

This will do nothing for his rock cred.

What rock cred?

Everybody might as well get ready for all the backlash about the single. As soon as everyone realizes..that David Cook cant please everyone…the better off everyone will be. If they would have went with declaration…there would have been people pissed ..they would have said it sounded like light on…if they would have went with Lie…it would have been wrong to some cuz its a slow ballad…I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens huh?

:nono_tb: :nono_tb:
David cook has his name attached to an equivalence of a kindergarten theme song.
oh how the mighty have fallen :annoyed_tb:

This will do nothing for his rock cred.

seriously, what rock cred? or simply, what cred?

I think that he could easily sell 4 times platinum like some of the other idols. And he will also probably win Grammys as well. Move over Beatles, Elvis, U2, Rolling Stones we have a new king in town and his name is King David.

:huh_tb: He’s good, but he’s not THAT good. Frankly, I’ll be shocked if he even gets nominated for a Grammy next year, let alone actually win one. Maybe if he comes out with an album without TPTB’s influence, but I honestly can’t see him having sales on par with Daughtry or Underwood.

I wish everyone wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be so negative. David has had great success so far. He knows what heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s doing. Give him credit for that.

Huh? First of all, we don’t know if “he” is the one “doing” the single picking. DC’s said before that he was worried about putting together a good record and would let the label worry about picking singles. That said, no one’s saying he hasn’t had great success– but people will have their opinions on CBTM. I’m enjoying them and the discussion on CBTM’s prospects. Incidentally, I’m listening to some DC songs right now, and I admit that CBTM has a pretty melody and DC sounds pretty, but I gotta say, aside from being lyrically mediocre, it doesn’t really make me feel anything. I feel so much more emotion in DC’s voice so many of his other songs. I guess I prefer to hear the angst/cry of passion in his voice in songs like Lie/LOTM, whereas he uses this somewhat detached wistfulness in his CBTM voice.

This will do nothing for his rock cred.

He was highly unlikely to get that anyway. But it will do just fine with his HAC Program Director Cred, where it matters. LOL.

Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good, but heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not THAT good. Frankly, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be shocked if he even gets nominated for a Grammy next year, let alone actually win one. Maybe if he comes out with an album without TPTBà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s influence, but I honestly canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see him having sales on par with Daughtry or Underwood.

I think he/she was just joking lol. :tongue1_tb:

Hmm…I disapprove, but the general public loves this song, so I’m not surprised.

Oh yay my least favorite song on the album is the next single? AWESOME!! No Pop/top 40 impact date? Yay! Nice to know RCA isn’t even trying to help him with rock radio but now it seems he’s simply a Hot Adult Contemporary artist :annoyed_tb:

I wish everyone wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be so negative. David has had great success so far. He knows what heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s doing. Give him credit for that.

You think he’s making ANY decisions? Every single thing he does has to be approved by RCA and/or 19. Established stars who have been around for years don’t even get to pick their singles. I hated the cheesiness that was TOML and I thought LO was a terrible lead single that struggled to even get to Top 20 on pop. Any success he’s had so far I’d say is in spite of the crap he’s been handed. This isn’t a fanboard and we should be able to express any negative feelings. That’s why I stay away from DCO.

Wow. I didn’t see that coming. I’m not really understanding the strategy with this album. The singles are way too spread out. I don’t get the “room to breathe” theory. He hasn’t even been playing this song in his live sets like Kimmel etc. It’s not a fan fave really. Hmm. I don’t think it’s about pleasing everyone, but it is not clear to even his die hard fans why the singles are being released the way that they are etc. If I was playing the record for a friend and trying to convince them that DC was the real deal, I wouldn’t start with this song. I guess that’s the easiest way for me to convey what I’m feeling. I don’t think that it represents him as an artist. Obviously, it’s on his album so it’s a part of him, but we don’t know what got chosen and what got canned and who was in charge of those decisions. Or perhaps I am attaching an identity to him that he himself has not embraced. I hope he goes in a different direction with his next album. He’s a Tenacious D fan for god sakes! I just don’t see him as a Bryan Adams type of artist. But, maybe I’m wrong? What say you DC fans?

I agree CookorHubbyHmm. For me it’s just that when I first heard the song it was sooo “ABMB redux” and I don’t like the feeling of reaching backwards towards “David’s greatest AI hits” (in fact, I’d argue LO = BJ redux, ha) when they don’t really reflect his work as a whole. It’s like, I look at his stuff before Idol and while there were some slow/mellow songs in there, a LOT more of it was edgier and more uptempo. But so far post Idol we’ve had ToML and LO, which don’t fit that at all, and now CBTM, which to me is more “Idol David” than who he *really* is musically.

Of course I’ll support David and the single (whatever that means, I’ve already bought xx copies of the album) but that doesn’t mean I have to love every move they make regarding his career. I think the Declaration Tour was a good move, but CBTM as next single, not so much.

I suspect there’s a split in strategy between his management and his label.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not a fan fave really.

Actually, by all info we have, this song is a fan fave.
Btw, just because it doesn’t have a pop/top 40 impact date NOW, it doesn’t mean it won’t have one.

Y’all know I love me some Cookie. You know I liked Light On tons better than most people. Well, can I just say…

RCA is dead to me. For now. Unless the pony up the payola. Bleh. So they don’t go with one of the rockin, uptempo songs. Fine. I like every. single. song. on. the. record. better. than. this. one. Even I Did It For You has grown on me tremendously. I am perplexed. Here’s why….

This is a dad song. Why would you market David effing Cook with a dad song? I dont want him to be my daddy. Ick. Lyrically, it sounds like a parent saying goodbye to a kid and sending them off into the big wide world. It’s a song that daddies and daughters can dance to at weddings. In my head, I can’t reconcile these lyrics with with an image of David Cook unless it’s, like, his feelings as he dropped Dublin off at obedience school and left for the tour. I’m not sure why people think this is a top 40 friendly tune. Is it the mid-tempo? Is that all Top 40 cares about? Cuz personally, I will be shocked if Top 40 picks up this song. I think Declaration had a shot, Heroes had a shot, even Kiss on the Neck. Avalanche because it’s a sexy ballad. Lie. Arrg. CBTM was fine as the one throw away track that I skip. But as a single? I’m not feeling the love, RCA. Im not feeling the love. :down_tb: Now prove me wrong and make this a hit. I’d love to eat crow here.

[quote]I suspect thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a split in strategy between his management and his label.[/quote]

That’s what I’m afraid of, too. I think if they throw this particular song out there with very little label support and fanfare, we’ll have a reason to angst a little. I’ll be looking to see how the single is promoted. Sigh.

Personally, CBTM is my least favorite song on DCTR. That said, RCA has done a terrific job with DC thus far, and I have faith they know what they are doing in making this selection. Presumably they want to make a run at getting further up the charts on CHR radio than LO did, as this is the most “pop” song on the record. Hopefully that works out.

On the single itself: I have not actually bought the album so I haven’t heard all the songs, but I gave this one a quick listen and I have to say that while the melody is catchy and radio-friendly, the lyrics are mediocre bordering on inane. “You to find you”? Really? That’s what they’re going to put out as a single? (And I don’t blame Cook for this since he evidently had no hand in writing the song.) On the other hand, given that the lyrics for most hot songs sound like they’re being written by kindergartners, Katy Perry,, this might actually fly well with the public. (Seriously, I’m pretty sure that Perry stole the words to Hot n Cold from a preschooler’s first list of opposites. Hot/Cold, In/Out, Yes/No . . .)

I still think he should release KISS ON THE NECK as a single.

If I was playing the record for a friend and trying to convince them that DC was the real deal, I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t start with this song.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that it represents him as an artist.

I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see him as a Bryan Adams type of artist. But, maybe Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m wrong? What say you DC fans?

I understand what you mean here. I think part of the problem is that the album is so eclectic. That makes it difficult to pin down one song that captures the whole idea of who DC is. (I personally think Declaration and/or Heroes come closer). BUT, I also think that while Come Back To Me is not the post-grunge type rockiest song on the album, it does sound like some modern rock – like say Snow Patrol or U2 or Coldplay. So I don’t know if it takes him totally out of the rock category, but it does put him in a different rock category. He’s going to get put in the melodic, ballady, “softer” category now with Gavin Rosedale and the like.

Yeah, right now on DCO, CBTM is solidly in the Top 6. The radio single does NOT need to be a fan fave. It’s job is to sell the album, build the fanbase and fill ever-increasingly larger venues. I think CBTM will do just that.

I think the challenge is that DC has a wide ranging fanbase. There are alt-rock fans that wouldn’t get near a Top 40 station that like his harder grungier side and then there are those Pop/AC/HAC fans that like his softer side. And there is a vast number of people in-between who like some of both.

Bottom line for me is that I want David to have a long successful career, always strengthening his musical muscles and finding his fuller expression as an artist. He doesn’t need to release my favorites to radio. I already have all those songs and can listen to them whenever I want to. I sometimes think people are treating this subject through their own fan-based lens instead of through a real world lens. David isn’t being played much on any rock stations now even though LO is a Chris-Cornell penned rock song. And there is no indication that rock stations are opening up to him at this point. So what if they released your favorite DC rock song (BBS, KOTN or BO) and it received little play? Would it really make people feel better?

One step at a time. He’ll build rock cred over time. It might take till his second major label release but it will happen. Patience.

Michelle…I agree. Love the tour. I don’t think that all of the ideas are crap. But, like I said…
If someone were to sit in my car and had NEVER heard of DC, I would not play this song. Isn’t that what releasing singles off of a debut album should be? Shouldn’t that be the strategy? IDK…I’m just not feelin’ it.

I’ve always thought this song was trying to capture the ABMB “vibe” and that, no doubt, is what TPTB are going for. It’s a lovely, middling song, and I expect David to dirty it up when he performs it live, so I’m actually looking forward to his performing it on Idol. It’s not his song, so he can Cookify it accordingly, and I think when he performs it, he will add the emotion to the song that I would agree is missing from the album version. I expect it to be very popular amongst the prom/graduation crowd as well and end up on all kinds of soundtracks.

I honestly don’t think he’ll ever have that elusive “rock cred” and I couldn’t care less.

Rock cred ain’t gonna happen for him. That ship sailed– even though he was there standing by the dock. It’s about trying to sustain a major label music career now. This song, as silly is it is, should hit pretty big.

There are much better songs on the album. Many of them would also flop on radio. Some people think Declaration should have been the next single or even the first single? Yeah, the PDs of CHR stations would have just ate up the screamed choruses on that one….

If David Cook wanted artistic control of his career, he wouldn’t have gone on AI. You trade off control for fame. Anyway, this is a song that should please the TOML crowd.

There is a pretty big split between the vibe of the college tour and this pretty soppy single. The only problem is that if this hits big, expect more of the same on the second album.

jpfan…

Lie to me and tell me that it’s gonna be alright.

I fear you are right on with your last statement. I hope not!!!

noctem seizure, I don’t always agree with you, but IMHO your last post is 100% on the money. This isn’t about which song best represents Cook’s artistry, or which is the fan favorite – this is about which song could do best on radio and gain the attention of new potential fans.

Also, this time around RCA took the time and did the research. I don’t believe that was in vain. I expect this song to hit much better on Top 40 than LO did. I hope I’m right.

Yay! I love Come Back to Me. Wasn’t expecting it to be a single though. Can’t wait for it to impact radio.

Some people think Declaration should have been the next single or even the first single? Yeah, the PDs of CHR stations would have just ate up the screamed choruses on that oneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

That’s debatable. I could say my CHR stations would never play a soft rock jam like CBTM, in a million years. And that’s looking at pieces…I’m more worried that there’s now this perception that David Cook is all about the soft rock vibe when he’s NOT, and if they keep moving in this direction it’ll be hard to turn back later on. If ToML and CBTM are the big hits off this album, what do you think they’ll put on the next album?

This song is so the opposite of the vibe he creates during his concerts. Weird. Of the DCTR songs, this is definitely in my bottom tier, along with IDIFY (TOML is in a different category of “doesn’t count”).

That said, it’ll probably be a big hit on Top 40. Maybe Cookified ABMB did go platinum during AI7 and RCA can’t help but try to recreate that same magic. Who knows?

I’m . . . resigned. It’s not the direction I had hoped RCA would go but what can you do. It’s almost like David/19 are creating a specific David Cook brand with the Declaration Tour and the MTVu sponsorship/synergy and RCA is off on its own creating an entirely different David Cook brand with dear old “Wind In Her Hair.” I hope the fans don’t get whiplash.

I don’t get the ABMB comparisons, cause IMO, ABMB represents Cook much better than CBTM.
CBTM feels forced while ABMB has Cook written all over it, it goes places, it’s passionate, it’s haunting, shows off the tones and range of his voice and his interpretaion skills.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSrt-Inyo9A

IMO – ABMB was a Mariah song that DC changed up within the confines of the Idol competition to appeal to the Idol audience. To me, that almost requires that there be some compromise. It was cool and all but representative of David? not when I listen to Axium, Analog Heart, random stuff off his unreleased album, and even his show setlists (which I’m assuming he gets more free rein on.)

If someone were to sit in my car and had NEVER heard of DC, I would not play this song. Isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that what releasing singles off of a debut album should be? Shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that be the strategy? IDKà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just not feelinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ it.

You wouldn’t. Others would. I think there’s an audience for this song, there is another audience for a song like Bar-Ba-Sol.
I think the strategy is to get a song to be played by radio as much as possible, getting it up there.
This seems like a very radio-friendly one. Will it work? Won’t it? We’ll have to wait and see, but to me it seems like one of the best options on the album to have a good life on radio. It is different from LO, so maybe the strategy is to get more audience.
Plus, it’s in the album. It’s David Cook, no matter how different it is from other songs.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m more worried that thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s now this perception that David Cook is all about the soft rock vibe when heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s NOT

If he isn’t, why does he have song like this one, Lie, Avalanche, I Did It For You, My Last Request, etc… on the album?
It’s part of who he is as an artist at this moment.

this is about which song could do best on radio and gain the attention of new potential fans.

True, but some of us don’t see the hit potential and are going to be skeptical until we see how it all unfolds. That’s where my concern is coming from, not a possessive “pick my song” kind of thing. The fact that I dig his album save for this one song does make me wonder if it’s just me, or is this not the right tune to promote David? No way of knowing the answer to that question until the song is released to the masses. And it also makes me wonder if RCA and 19 are at cross purposes with regards to Cook. We have ample proof that Fuller is onboard the Cook train. RCA? Still not 100% sure. Again, hope to be proven wrong.

in my kindergarten remark I was mainly refering to the song’s sound. thats not to say that the lyrics are a thrill for me either (to say the least).
and i’ll take katy perry’s/lady Ga-Ga’s/Britney Spears’s kindergarten crap over david’s in a heartbeat because they actually know how to produce crap that has HIT written all over it.
the songs david was penned with on this record are of the worst kind’a crap I’ve heard in my life.
I agree with Trina
Any success heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s had so far is in spite of the crap heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been handed.

I still think he should release KISS ON THE NECK as a single.

In a perfect world…..
I think it’s the best song on the album.

It’s obvious from live performances (and from the studio version) that this is the kind of music that comes naturally out of him. There’s nothing forced about it, his voice fits it perfectly.

I think versatility is awesome on idol, but at the real world, it can hurt you. They need to market him as something rather than everything, even if he can be that. People want to know what they’re buying and this is just one big mess.

And it also makes me wonder if RCA and 19 are at cross purposes with regards to Cook. We have ample proof that Fuller is onboard the Cook train. RCA? Still not 100% sure. Again, hope to be proven wrong.

So far I think 19 has done a much better job in going about things than RCA. I think RCA USE to be supportive but I’ll reserve judgment until I see how this progresses. Right now this choice makes me question a lot about how they see him.

Releasing singles that have a different vibe from the live shows/concerts ~

Maybe, that’s one of the strategies that Fuller is employing this cycle — hit the young ‘uns on tour while attract the older ones with soft rock/ballady singles. They’re trying to get fans on opposite ends of the spectrum. It may not work because of the schizophrenia but then again, it could also create a major growth in the fanbase.

Last minute switchroo? Please? They did that with Archie, right? … Oh well.

I’m not a huge fan of this song. But if a lot of people like it, it makes sense to release it. I don’t really care anyway, I have the CD so I can listen to any song whenever I want!

hypertwink…that makes a ton of sense. Although the schizophrenia is what has me all cynical and icky. Hold me.

I’m mystified when I hear people suggest songs like KOTN and Barbasol for singles (apart from rock singles). With all due respect, I have two questions. What decade do you think this is and have you listened to the radio in the last ten years? Yes, Barbasol would fit in just nicely between Circles and Single Ladies. And KOTN would transition seamlessly between Right Round and Poker Face….

Bad choice or not, at least RCA is behind David 100%. It could’ve been worse – they release a bad song and just completely abandom him with no support at all.

Right now this choice makes me question a lot about how they see him.

I don’t think what matters to RCA is how they see him, but how much he can make to them. Actually, I’d worry about them if they released songs like Kiss On The Neck, ADAM or Life On The Moon like I see people suggesting. I hardly see any of those 3 songs having much of a life on radio.
What I see here is RCA chosing a song that has potential to do well on the radio. And imo, they made the right choice. We will have to wait and see if it works, but it is one of David’s best options to do better than LO. If it doesn’t, I would like people to tell me what would.

ETA:

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m mystified when I hear people suggest songs like KOTN and Barbasol for singles (apart from rock singles). With all due respect, I have two questions. What decade do you think this is and have you listened to the radio in the last ten years? Yes, Barbasol would fit in just nicely between Circles and Single Ladies. And KOTN would transition seamlessly between Right Round and Poker Faceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

LOL Exactly.

Last minute switchroo? Please? They did that with Archie, right?

And see how well that’s working out for them…
Sorry, but I really don’t want to see them switch. I hope this decision is based on much more then a passing whim, and a switch would indicate to me that they don’t know where they’re going, do not have a solid plan, and basically do not have faith in any one or other song.

PS – this is not a slam on Archie or Jive. I just think that switch hasn’t proven itself and it’s the only example I have of such.

hypertwink, Interesting perspective. I think you might be on to something.

litllepark, You might want to check how that switcheroo has panned out for Archie. More than a month has passed since that single dropped. No Top 40 charting, no HAC charting, and next to no AC charting. Wouldn’t wish this on anybody.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m mystified when I hear people suggest songs like KOTN and Barbasol for singles (apart from rock singles). With all due respect, I have two questions. What decade do you think this is and have you listened to the radio in the last ten years? Yes, Barbasol would fit in just nicely between Circles and Single Ladies. And KOTN would transition seamlessly between Right Round and Poker Faceà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

Sure… and I suggest that the next video would be black & white and have Andy, David and Neal doing some Beyonce moves in tights. You know.. so it could fit well between the other videos.

All I know is, he would have a tough time having success with the KOTNs, ADAMs and even Declarations of the next album if they keep releasing the CBTMs. That worries me cause I think that’s where his heart is. I’m ok with him not doing well on a format that is ruled by Britney, Rihanna and Leona Lewis. He doesn’t belong there.

LOL, I seriously did not know. ^_^

I haven’t read all of the comments yet but I think this is one of the worst songs they could have chosen as a next single. I know it was ranked fairly highly on DCO but I’m convinced that there was some serious spamming involved because most of the people on that site do not like that song. I don’t think it is a horrible song but I’ve now heard him perform it twice live and it was probably the most unimpressive of all of his performances. Even “I Did it for You” sounded 10x better. CBTM just sounds like boring sap. It should never have been on his album to begin with and I can’t believe they picked another song that he didn’t write. There are at least 7 songs that would have made better choices. Did Clive join RCA??

And why are they waiting until the end of March to release a new single?

I know it was ranked fairly highly on DCO but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m convinced that there was some serious spamming involved because most of the people on that site do not like that song.

And is there also some serious spamming on Itunes for that song to be one of top ones?

I think the worrying is unecessary. He will perform this on Idol and would therefore guarantee sales. It doesn’t matter if it’s a good or bad song. It will do well just for the mere fact that he’ll be peforming it on Idol.

Yeah, CBTM is currently ranked #7 on iTunes with no promotion, no TV performances, and minimal exposure until just recently. It is higher on the list than most of the songs people wanted to see released instead, like Avalanche and Bar-ba-Sol. I think the support for CBTM is quieter since the opposition on the boards is so vocal. I know I just stated my support early on, then left it alone. Some folks might not like it, but CBTM has shown to be fairly popular, so far. I can’t wait to see what happens when it finally gets exposure and play. I think it will be huge. I hope the dissenters will be happy when that happens.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m mystified when I hear people suggest songs like KOTN and Barbasol for singles (apart from rock singles). With all due respect, I have two questions. What decade do you think this is and have you listened to the radio in the last ten years?

The 2000s, and yes. :rolleyes_tb: Sometimes good songs actually become hits. It happens. *raises eyebrow* Occasionally, something different sounding becomes faddish. I think you have two types of Top40 hits…those that sound like everything else, and those that are a curiosity because they are distinctive. Obviously, they are not going for a distinctive sound with David and this song. It’s fine, but disappointing.All that said, it would crack me up immensely if the only David Cook song I don’t like becomes a massive hit and the next twenty TV performances are DC singing “you find you” and other words that make me cringe. Because I’d still DVR and youtube him and watch it mumblety times. Ah, irony.

I really wanted it to be “Lie”, I find myself skipping songs and playing just Barbasol, Lie and Permanent these days…

I do understand the concern about what kind of artist-identity he establishes. But, on that point I have two responses.

First, he survived the Magic Rainbow (and that rainbow probably sold a few records too). So he’ll survive this.

Second, the concern about artist-identity is trumped by the imperative of having hits. As the Idol winner, David Cook needs hits if the name “David Cook” is going to have cache when it comes time to roll out the second album singles. Currently, he’s got the sales, but he doesn’t have the hits yet. The sales will get him the opportunity to make a second record. But, it’s the hits this time around that will convince radio and the public that he’s still relevant next time around.

And is there also some serious spamming on Itunes for that song to be one of top ones?

There isn’t a big difference in purchases between any of the songs on itunes (besides TOML and Light On) to come to any kind of conclusion…is it really selling that well? Even if it is selling slightly better than Lie or Barbasol or Heroes (I’ve seen Heroes ahead of it sometimes though), I think a lot of those purchases are based on the 30s clips. I actually thought CBTM would be one of the better songs when I first heard it…however, for me it’s one of those songs that start off with potential and then after a minute I forget it’s even playing. Hey, maybe a few catchy cords are enough. I still think the DCO thing is weird. Maybe all of the people who love CBTM on DCO are just very quiet about it. Also for a song he performed for the very first time on the college tour, it’s surprising that the video has so few views compared to the others. Where are all of the people who love this song so much?

I think the song will do well. I loooooooove Kiss On The Neck, Heroes, Bar Ba Sol, the other harder songs, but I still like Come Back To Me. I’ve played the CD for non-Cook fans with eclectic / rock / poprock leaning tastes, and ALL of them like it. They’re not raving about it, but the consensus is that they like the melody, it’s got interesting intrumentation, sounds like a euro-poprock track. One of them commented on the “wind in your hair” lyric but then said it was balanced out by the “when you find you” in the chorus. Another non-Cook fan actually asked me to turn up the car radio when this song played on my cd (we were talking while DC played in the background, I didn’t even know she was paying attention). After that she wanted to stay in the car and listen to the cd while I did my banking. Result? She likes the songs, thinks the album is “interesting” and we went to get it for her. So yeah, hard evidence that song could actually attract new fans. BTW, I’m not the type to push my faves/obsessions on other people so all of this just happened naturally. So that’s my “field” report LOL.

Oh, and that whole Cred thing? Why is it even important? To me, cred is about longevity, consistency, showing up, going through the ups and downs, and still standing at the end with your integrity intact. Cred is about being honest about who you are, about sincerity and courage, heartbreak and backbreak, about having to put up with shit and coming out a better person, and still putting out the music with something to say (that moves people in some way). The young don’t deserve cred served on a platter. Cred is earned through a lifetime of work. Someone said this and I think it’s genius: “rock cred is all about being too cool to care whether you have it. (tm bigelow @ dco)” If you’re worrying about it, then you’ve got an umbrella up your butt that’s gonna make you walk funny, know what i mean?

David Cook started a band at 15, came up with 5 band albums (including a live sessions version) and a solo album all independently released, he put together a major label release in 2-3 months (and a band!) writing / co-writing 10 tracks (13 if you count the bonus/hidden tracks) which has now gone platinum in 3 months, while on a grueling 52 stop tour. He’s appeared at SNL (pre-album release) and countless other tv/radio shows including Oprah / the Glamour Women Awards (WTF?), posed cheerfully with Goofy (I mean, at one stop he made his whole band put on Mickey Mouse ears and a reviewer for that concert only commented that he had better stage presence than the headliner LOL), endorses family-oriented footwear, deals with ‘meet and greets’ with gusto and humour. THEN he goes on a USO tour in the mid-east, and is now in another gruelling sold out spring tour which is already pegged ‘hot’ on tourtracker with new dates constantly popping up almost every other day. That’s a hell of a resume for a 26-year-old. Perspective, people, perspective.

It’s a great time to be a David Cook fan LOL.

I know it was ranked fairly highly on DCO but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m convinced that there was some serious spamming involved because most of the people on that site do not like that song.

The DCO survey was not set up to be statistically valid, and I seriously doubt it was used at all by the label. The Rate the Music Survey was set up to segment the user responses into those that had already purchased DCTR and those that had not. Presumably CBTM rated high with raters who have not yet purchased the record, as that would be the audience they’d be looking to capture now.

You trade off control for fame.

I may be nitpicking here, but I think there are a lot of artists who go on AI, and concede to trade off control not for fame, but rather just for a shot at a full time music career that actually pays the bills. I would argue that, unlike with Bikini Girl and Tatiana, fame did not seem to be the main trade-off that the season 7′s contestants seemed to be aiming for. If fame without a music career was the big prize for AI, most of season 7′s contestants would not have signed on to do the show.

Second, the concern about artist-identity is trumped by the imperative of having hits. As the Idol winner, David Cook needs hits if the name à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“David Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  is going to have cache when it comes time to roll out the second album singles. Currently, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got the sales, but he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have the hits yet. The sales will get him the opportunity to make a second record. But, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the hits this time around that will convince radio and the public that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still relevant next time around.

I dunno. You have to balance preserving an artist’s identity with the need to make sales…push it too far towards the bottom line and it gets icky.

Although maybe I see now why this first album was half ballads and half “non-ballads”, they wanted flexibility for which way they would go. And if they end up going the softer route and that’s honestly okay with David, then fine.

I do think that you can strike a balance, show another side of David the artist and still have a hit (with Declaration or Heroes) but it looks like the label is playing it safe by going with what they think is a sure thing based on past experience, and that’s disappointing. (and even then…why not Lie?)

I think people go on AI for the exposure. Of course, it’s incredibly tough to make it in music, etc. However, many musicians would never appear on the show because they own you if you win. So you get a career in music but at a price.

I call shennanigins!!!!!! (again) (heh)

The person(s) who(m) wrote “Come Back To Me” plagiarized my beloved T-shirt. It says: I’ve gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, keep me here.” I even got the Cookie to autograph it for me.

All I know is someone owes me royalties. :mrgreen_wp:

Needless to say, I cannot listen to this song without busting out in giggles (and I DO NOT giggle). :lol_tb:

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Peace Out & Poke Smot :smoke_tb:

Jumping in a bit late, but wanted to add that I am okay with CBTM as the next single (not that my okay is needed LOL).

Not my favorite song, but it is easy to listen to and I do like it. When I first received my DCTR, I listened to CBTM a lot on repeat, but then got a bit tired of it. Makes me wonder if after repeated listening will it grow stale to othersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ ears as well? Hope not!

I was hoping for something a tad edgier (but not Declaration) so maybe next time? And I too wonder, why not a song David had a hand in writing? That just seems wrong to me.

I liked Lie before but I kinda lost a little love for it, for some reason. Not that I liked CBTM more but I get why they’re choosing to go that route.

Here’s the problem in my eyes:

(1)we are a bunch over over-invested fans. Most people here have heard Analog Heart and the Axiom stuff, and have watched MWK videos from YouTube back in the day. In the conversations we have with ourselves, David Cook is an alt-rock songwriter dude. To his harcore fanbase, that is the “real” David.

(2)But to the rest of the AI world, David is that nice guy from last year. He re-arranged songs, largely making rock ballads/ midtempos out of them. People know him as the glory note slowish rock song creative guy. Who cries alot. And he’s kinda cute.

(3)To the non-AI public, he’s the guy who sang a sappy but heartwarming Olympics song, and that Hinder-ish rock ballad.

For the label, there are a LOT more people in catagories 2 or 3 than in category 1.

They are going to release something that appeals to the biggest potential audience. Midtempo/slow rockish songs are what has been his bread and butter so far. So the label has decided to keep going in that direction. It’s the safe choice, but I get why they made it.

It offends us because we think know a different DC than everyone else. But honestly, I think I’ll wait to see how it all plays out from here before I get upset. Maybe because I don’t think I would mind if he ended up in Snow Patrol territory, I guess. But we’ll see.

For that matter they could have gone with something like Lie. If they want to keep in the mid-tempo ballad box I would have preferred Lie because IMO it’s not nearly as boring as CBTM. Out of 12 songs I don’t consider it being #7 on iTunes a sign it’s a big fan favorite either. There’s just too much WTF surrounding this for me. Why has he only sang it twice in concert and why has he been singing LO and *Declaration* all over TV? My only hope we better get a good video out of this, something that actually um makes sense with the song lyrics.

I’m surprised the label chose this song. I’m not a DC fan, but I assumed “Declaration” or “Lie” would be the next single – I can envision either of these two songs as big hits.

This song doesn’t make a huge impression, IMO. But, it reminds me alot of songs like “Shattered” by O.A.R. which is a big hit on Hot AC…so who knows? Sometimes the label knows best…

It seems like most people acknowledge that CBTM could be a big hit and be a big seller for the album. I’m really not understanding how a fan of DC would be ok with turning their back on that real world success in order to wear some kind of badge of mythical rock credibility or artistic merit. Let’s see: what will help further David’s career the most? – A badge or a platinum chart-topping single? That’s a toughie – not.

David would never have agreed to record the song or include it on the album if he wasn’t supportive of the song being used to further his career. When I think of all the rumors floating around before the album was released of possible collaborations, I am constantly grateful that none of those ended up on this record. Perspective, people.

Out of 12 songs I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t consider it being #7 on iTunes a sign ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a big fan favorite either.

It’s actually #3 if you don’t count the 2 singles.

Why has he only sang it twice in concert and why has he been singing LO and *Declaration* all over TV?

Because LO is the single, he has to sing the current single on TV. And as for Declaration he had to sing a second song at a time they hadn’t yet decide what was the second single. It ended up beeing Declaration, I guess.

I don’t see anything WTF about this. I really believe it tested better on that survey. It has the most top40 appeal. Btw it’s one of the song that comes in the stiker with the album, so I guess they always considered it for single.

I’m just peeking at this thread now.

DON’T TELL POSTERS WHAT TO DO. This is directed at the poster telling others not to be so negative.

My blog is not a fan site. If you don’t like negative commentary stay at your fan forum.

I’m going through this thread to delete and edit…

For the label, there are a LOT more people in catagories 2 or 3 than in category 1.

ITA. Plus, the people in category 1 have already bought DCTR (maybe multiple copies!). And singles are all about selling the album.

After reading these comments I went off to find a video of CBTM on YouTube to read the comments below the video and see how the fans in the audience were reacting to the singing of said song. A little over halfway through the performance I realized something. The audience was singing along with him. Apparently more than a few of the folks in the seats had cared enough about the song to learn the lyrics. Now I know this in no means a scientific survey nor a predictor of the success of the song – but it does make me feel better that some folks had cared enough about this rarely-as-of-yet-performed song to invest their own time into it. It seems not everyone skips over it.

Now, OT for just a sec – I was away for the holiday weekend so I am sure this already has been mentioned, but if you haven’t seen the Pork Beans short films DC and the EEB are doing on his official website you should check it out sometime. This first one is a tour of the stage area. Not great theatre but it speaks to the bonding of the band.

This song doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make a huge impression, IMO. But, it reminds me alot of songs like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Shatteredà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  by O.A.R. which is a big hit on Hot ACà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦so who knows? Sometimes the label knows bestà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Yeah, I was thinking this afternoon that it does fit with songs like Shattered or the latest by Fray. Okay RCA, work some magic!

I’m surprised. Is RCA picking singles to make sure the professional writers get their royalties? That’s not a 100% serious question but it’s not a total joke question. I just thought that Heroes would’ve made a better 2nd single for Hot AC.

For that matter they could have gone with something like Lie. If they want to keep in the mid-tempo ballad box I would have preferred Lie because IMO ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not nearly as boring as CBTM.

My guess is CBTM tested better than Lie. Lie is a fan favorite (for me too) but fans aren’t always the best single pickers.

This song doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make a huge impression, IMO. But, it reminds me alot of songs like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Shatteredà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  by O.A.R. which is a big hit on Hot ACà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦so who knows? Sometimes the label knows bestà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Bingo. I think they are officially going in the Lifehouse/Snow Patrol/O.A.R/Vh1 direction with him now. Shattered didn’t do badly on pop if I remember correctly.

I’m so glad there is going to be a new single, another opportunity to hear a David Cook song on the radio. Come Back to Me isn’t my personal favorite, but I do like it a lot. I love Lie. I love Permanent. I love Avalanche (all three of which have more votes than Come Back to Me on DCO), but really there is not one song on the entire CD that I would not like to see come out as a single, so I am psyched. Thanks for the great news. I hope CBTM goes platinum, too.

It offends us because we think know a different DC than everyone else.

Yeah, I get that, but that’s not where I’m coming from. I flove Avalanche, for example, and that’s not alternative at all. But it’s really well written, sexy albeit in a subtle way and probably the best vocal on the record. It’s a good song to market a hot guy with a great voice and an interesting way with words. It’s also super awesome live. Lie is another one that sounds borderline folksy/country to me which really isn’t my bag and yet, I still think it’s a fantastic song that could do well on multiple formats. And it’s awesome live and plays up the heart on the sleeve thing that Cook does so well. Come Back To Me is just…there. Though my musical leanings are more alt, this isn’t about putting DC in a box that’s too restrictively alternative and being ticked about the label wanting him to be too cheesy and poppy. It’s pretty simple….I don’t like the lyrics and I think it’s a boring song. I’m afraid it won’t be the hit that people predict because the masses will also think it’s a boring song. I think that there are 11 other DCTR songs that are more interesting. Also, I think it skews way older than the CHR audience and don’t get why people hear it and think Top 40. I wish I felt differently. I really do. That’s my gut feeling, though. My fear is that the label just stubbornly went with the song they had originally envisioned as the next single even though better choices emerged. But hey, I could very well be a blathering idiot about to be proven wrong. I hope I AM wrong. I don’t know nuthin bout running no record company. Maybe RCA did tons of research and found that this song tested well with program directors and they will all embrace it and it will shoot up the charts. In which case, you can all say neener neener neener, we told you so sunchick, and I will wear this: :dunce_tb: and happily admit I was a dum dum.

As some of you already know, I’m a hardcore Archie fan. If the record label’s strategy is to win over some non-Cook fans, then I would fit perfectly in that demographic. My verdict: I like this song very much!

I asked my brother, who is also an Archie fan, to listen to it. He liked it even more than me. We listened to it together on YouTube. After hearing it just once, he actually told me to download it.

OMg ozarka. Seriously? Your timing is awesome. Right on cue….. LMAO….

Pass me the damned hat… :dunce_tb:

My fear is that the label just stubbornly went with the song they had originally envisioned as the next single even though better choices emerged.

I guess we should have listened to The Sticker On The CD after all!

aww okarka..that made me feel alot better, cuz I have to admit Im scared about the song…not that I dont like it, cuz I do…but to be truthful with you, im the wrong person to decide what would work best on radio because I dont like half of the top 40 crap…So, Im crossing my fingers that rca knows what they are doing.

Yeah, I get that, but thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not where Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m coming from. I flove Avalanche, for example, and thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not alternative at all. But ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s really well written, sexy albeit in a subtle way and probably the best vocal on the record. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a good song to market a hot guy with a great voice and an interesting way with words. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also super awesome live. Lie is another one that sounds borderline folksy/country to me which really isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t my bag and yet, I still think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a fantastic song that could do well on multiple formats. And ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s awesome live and plays up the heart on the sleeve thing that Cook does so well. Come Back To Me is justà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦there.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty simpleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like the lyrics and I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a boring song. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m afraid it wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be the hit that people predict because the masses will also think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a boring song… Also, I think it skews way older than the CHR audience and donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get why people hear it and think Top 40.

Okay sunchick, I understand. I am not crazy about the lyrics but I do think it’s a catchy song. I’m going to assume RCA is doing this because that was the results of all the testing they’ve done. I’m also going to assume they considered the age appeal thing… I mean, how many older people even listen to top 40?… but I could be wrong on that. But, they did just send him on a college tour after all. I dunno. I guess there is nothing we can do but wait to see how it all plays out. I’m not too worried about it yet, but I am going to keep my eyes open.

ETA: I just realized something. I don’t think the song is old. It could easily be about a long distance relationship, or your high school sweetie going off to college, or you college sweetie going off to wherever… I think it will be fine. And it’s pretty. Yeah I feel pretty good about this.

I am not a big Cook follower but I purchased his cd because I loved Permanent. It moved me. I liked Come Back to Me right away. I guess I’m not understanding the angst. I like it.

Cook is way overdue for another single. The song is radio friendly.
It should please fans that liked TOML and LO. I see some fans don’t like it because Cook didn’t write it and it’s not representative of his style. But it’s not like his career all rides on this new single. He’ll sell dls, albums and make 19 happy. So he’s not Bono, big deal. I’m not getting all the anxiety about this single at all.

For whatever it’s worth, nine months after Season 7 ended and I still haven’t gotten over my DC obsession. It has reached a point where my husband just barely tolerates me listening to DCTR, so it doesn’t get played a lot at home anymore. But you know what, he likes CBTM. He’s a big U2 fan. He’s not the type to analyze lyrics or whether the singer emotionally connects to a song, or what not. He says CBTM has a nice melody and a great hook. Once, I actually caught him humming to the song. That made me smile.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m afraid it wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be the hit that people predict because the masses will also think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a boring song. I think that there are 11 other DCTR songs that are more interesting. Also, I think it skews way older than the CHR audience and donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get why people hear it and think Top 40

Sunchick, that’s exactly how I feel about this song. I listen to a lot of pop/top 40, so I have no problems with him singing a tune with a top 40 vibe. This song just screams boring to me….and what’s frustrating is that he has so many great songs on his album. Based on the songs that DC usually chooses to perform in his sets, I have a hard time believing that this would be his choice. I actually believed him when he said that he liked Light On, but this one seems to be a stretch.

I agree with those who say that it has a similar vibe to the Fray song. However, the Fray have at least two mega-hits under the belt, so radio stations are more inclined to play and promote one of their less stellar songs (I’m actually not impressed with You Found Me but I thought How to Save a Life , was beautiful so I can see why they get a lot of love from the radio stations). Anyway, I really hope I’m wrong.

Cook is way overdue for another single. The song is radio friendly.
It should please fans that liked TOML and LO. I see some fans donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like it because Cook didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t write it and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not representative of his style. But ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not like his career all rides on this new single. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll sell dls, albums and make 19 happy. So heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not Bono, big deal. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not getting all the anxiety about this single at all.

LOL! Well, you know, what do fans have to do but angst about everything? That’s just how we roll.

But for the record, I agree with you. :laugh_tb:

teenie, I think all the angst is coming from the hardcore DC fans that are way deep into his music, listening to Analog Heart, Axium, MWK and DC’s other material. Supposedly, Joey, the bassist has said they’ve learned some 40 songs for this tour. (So far we’ve heard at least 23 songs and they’re only on day 5). Fans are enjoying DC’s wide spectrum of original music and perhaps getting impatient with again having to wait to hear DC’s own material on the radio.

Of course, what the fans are ready for and what the general public is ready for is entirely different. The radio singles are geared toward potential DC album purchasers and I think the label has done their research to come up with the best song for DC to release at this moment in time.

First of all, why is anyone surprised? Rate The Music had a survey of the three tracks they were considering to release as Dave’s next single: CBTM, Declaration and Lie. So CBTM had a 1 in 3 chance of being selected – or 33% chance. Those were the songs for consideration.

On the packaging of DCTR album (not WalMart bonus cd), RCA chose to put a silver sticker that featured: ToML, Light On, Life on the Moon, and Come Back to Me. So again, CBTM was featured. So I’m not understanding the surprise. RCA has been pointing to this as a possible single since November because, again it was ON the original album packaging. And besides, it sounds very similar to ABTM, and many AI viewers and non viewers flove DC’s cover of ABTM.

DCTR, as David Cook described it, is an eclectic album with twists and turns. The reviews for DCTR also highlighted different songs. The beauty about art and music is that song can touch people in different waves. Some people really DO love ToML. To each his own I guess.

And Kelly’s monster hit, My Life Would Suck Without You, was not penned by her. Some would argue that this is her comeback single. I hardly think ANYONE thinks that song is not Kelly’s because she didn’t write it. It’s Kelly’s song. So I really don’t get the big deal that Dave didn’t write Come Back to Me. Are peeps suggesting that RCA doesn’t have faith in Kelly by having her sing a non Kelly written song? Sorry, I don’t buy that argument either. Since when did it matter if an artists sang 100% of the songs off his album that he wrote? AI is a TV show where people sing covers. Were Kelly’s third singles or Carrie’s third singles penned by them? Nope. Did that hurt them or their artistic cred? Nope. In fact, how many songs did Carrie or Kelly pen on their debut, post AI albums? Hm, not 10 of 12.

If it’s any consolation, we do know with 100% certainty that Dave’s NEXT single after CBTM will be a song he wrote. Heh.

Funny Kelly should come up, because her experience is what concerns me the most. I hate her new single and see it as a major compromise, mae culpa, please forgive me RCA for trying to save my own soul and self by putting out my art, my own music on My December. But, to tell you the truth, I don’t see that happening to David, as he was much more defined and refined pre-Idol. Ya never know though. And, I guess, who really cares when the song hits with the force that “…Suck…” did. LOL

Keel, I applaud that you captured it for me with this:

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s almost like David/19 are creating a specific David Cook brand with the Declaration Tour and the MTVu sponsorship/synergy and RCA is off on its own creating an entirely different David Cook brand with dear old à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Wind In Her Hair.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  I hope the fans donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get whiplash

LOL Too true!

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just peeking at this thread now.

Aww MJ, you’ve been extremely busy with editing comments today..LOL.

Ozarka – I agree. I think this song is targeted to win new fans/AI fans,etc.

Tinawina http://mjsbigblog.com/?p=6755&cp=1#comment-192397
^I’m not going to quote your whole post, but I think your comment is spot on..Hee.

Keeping it short and sweet…really like CBTM along with Avalanche, Heroes, LOTM and Lie. Oh hell, I don’t skip any songs on the album except Mr. Sensitive.

My angst isn’t because I think his pre-AI music is any sort of great piece of art, in fact I’m in the minority that thinks AH is overrated, my angst isn’t because he didn’t write it. I don’t need good music to be written by the artist performing it. I practically worship Bono and yet if he sang CBTM I would still dislike it immensely. I just don’t like this song and I find it boring..and as of today, at least, there’s not even any proof RCA plans on marketing it to Top 40 so my concern there is they no longer feel he’s worth pushing there.

Ok…my daughter played DCTR at work several times before anyone started noticing and eventually liking the cd. Which song reeled them in ?(guys and girls alike) you guessed it. CBTM. I gifted the cd. to my brothers. ranging in ages from 24-38. Favorite song…yes , I couldn’t believe it either CBTM. I know this is just a handful of people, but every single one loved that song!

I think CBTM was detined to be a single from the beginning…it’s only a matter of when. As for the lyrics, other than the tongue in check, infamous windy line, I think they are actually pretty perceptive and spot on. How many times have you heard that someone needs to find them self as a reason for leaving another? It’s basically code for BS. “I can’t save you, I can’t fix you, it’s something you’re going to have to do” is actually a non-sense truism when it comes to dating. I’m sure some women will find the concept of waiting for a woman to return…leaving her things right where she left them….as truly romantic and thoughtful. Some serial killers may disagree. lol

More than anything, I think it is the extremely catchy chorus, the emotive vocals, and the beat that will drive the popularity of this track. I don’t think CBTM is near as cheesy as TOML, which I do respect. If he turned that song into a hit, he can do the same for CBTM, which I believe Is 10 times better. I still think it will outperform LO on HAC and especially on Top 40. If CBTM becoming a big hit helps pave the way for more singles, especially being DCTR is so loaded, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m all for it. Just like everyone else, whether now or in the future, I will support whatever he releases. I wish him nothing but the best.

Hmmm, at the beginning of this thread I posted that I wished I could be excited about this single. So now…after reading several of these comments, I’m actually becoming a little excited about it. I’m very interested to see what it can/will do.

It has never been and don’t ever think it will be my favorite from DCTR, but if it does sell records, I’m all for it!

Oh yeah and way back I wondered about this being a good-bye song on AI. I pictured as a good-bye song from the families of the contestants to the contestants. However, since then I thought, hey, AI is all about their contestants knowing who they are. Following that line…those who get voted off don’t know who they are and so the music industry can be saying to the contestant, “When you find you, come back to me.”

LOL, really I’m reaching here. But, I just wanted to blow some wind into your hair. Ugh! Sorry!

I dunno. You have to balance preserving an artistà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s identity with the need to make salesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦push it too far towards the bottom line and it gets icky.

Although maybe I see now why this first album was half ballads and half à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“non-balladsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , they wanted flexibility for which way they would go. And if they end up going the softer route and thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s honestly okay with David, then fine.

I do think that you can strike a balance, show another side of David the artist and still have a hit (with Declaration or Heroes) but it looks like the label is playing it safe by going with what they think is a sure thing based on past experience, and thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s disappointing. (and even thenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦why not Lie?)

Sales at this point are not the issue. I’m fairly certain that if, starting today, he never sells another copy of “David Cook”, album #2 would still be greenlighted.

Actually, though, let me correct myself. Current sales do matter not because he’s at risk of being one-and-done, but because they will build up currency with the label if album #2 is measurably less successful than album #1, so album # 3 (and beyond) will still receive the go-ahead.

But, the even bigger matter is the necessity of having a hit– something that will establish his name in music as an artist-in-demand. This is vital so that when the first single from his second album drops, radio will think that he still matters and will make it a priority to play his songs and also so the music-buying public will think that he still matters and that a new David Cook release is an album-to-have.

First of all, why is anyone surprised? Rate The Music had a survey of the three tracks they were considering to release as Daveà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s next single: CBTM, Declaration and Lie. So CBTM had a 1 in 3 chance of being selected – or 33% chance. Those were the songs for consideration.

On the packaging of DCTR album (not WalMart bonus cd), RCA chose to put a silver sticker that featured: ToML, Light On, Life on the Moon, and Come Back to Me. So again, CBTM was featured. So Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not understanding the surprise.

Here’s where my surprise came in….it was obvious to me that CBTM was RCA’s intention for a second single right out of the gate. LO was reminiscent of Billie Jean with the Cornell tie in, CBTM is a poor man’s ABMB. Those were his big hits on AI. Lazy strategy, but possibly a fruitful one. LO wasn’t hugely embraced out of the gate a la Billie Jean, though. It had to grow on people. And it’s cool, I’m a big champion of that song, but I don’t think the label expected that kind of trajectory. The album, however, was another story. Lots of positive buzz, great sales. THus I erroneously figured when they were taking so long to name a new single that the RCA suits were pleasantly surprised by the positive reception to DCTR, specifically the songs co-written by Dave, and rethinking their original marketing strategy and embracing him more fully as an artist. I thought he earned a little more label attention with the platinum record sales. I thought they were willing to change gears if the other two songs tested as well as CBTM. I thought a lot of stuff. When ADAM showed up on AI, I didn’t assume it meant ADAM was the next single, but I did have high hopes that his management and the label realized the value of pushing the singer/songwriter angle with him. I thought pushing that angle would have been smart. I still do. I am super happy with the roll out of the tour, and I still think his management probably gets it. The label? Not so much.

Sadly, I overestimated the significance of the 6 month waiting period between singles. But I’m wiling to concede to their wisdom if this song has label support and becomes a big hit. Maybe CBTM scored huge on that RTM survey, so huge that they had to make this decision. Maybe CHR program directors liked it best. Who knows. Like I said, it all comes down to how they promote this song from here on out. I am not loving RCA right now and will be looking at this decision with a very skeptical eye, but I am open to embracing it if it proves to be the thing that pushes Cook beyond top 20 in CHR radio, if z100 loves the song and plays it right out of the gate, if the video is awesome and does well on VH1, and all that jazz.

teenie, I think all the angst is coming from the hardcore DC fans that are way deep into his music, listening to Analog Heart, Axium, MWK and DCà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s other material.

I dont’ think it’s a good idea to make assumptions about people just because they don’t like a song. I listen to a grand total of one song from Axium, two songs from Analog Heart and I wouldn’t recognize a MWK song if it hit me on the head! Based on comments in other threads, I’m pretty sure that I listen to a lot more pop and hip-hop than most people here and I actually would have been very happy if one or two pop songs had ended up on DC’s album because I think they would kill. So when people who don’t like top40 are saying that it is a perfect fit, all I can say is huh? I think CBTM fits in that grey zone between AC and pop….if given the right promotion and maybe a cool music video it can do well in the top 40 but I don’t think it’s a natural fit.

For the record, it’s nice to hear that a lot of people like it (more than I would have thought). As long as it does well enough so that they can release his other songs, then I guess it’s all good.

I’m surprised anyone is concerned. David is going to have a smash hit with this. It’s very radio friendly. Plus, he’s David Cook. He’s AI’s golden boy. Remember slow and steady wins the race. :smiley2_tb:

I don’t hate, hate it. But I do mostly skip this one and Magic Rainbow. He sounds wonderful singing them. Just not my type of music. I loved “Light On” and think it is a great song.

So it will probably sell million downloads just like Rainbow.

Recalling that CBTM was on the album sticker, and hence part of the original plan, actually makes me feel a lot better about its selection as the next single. To me that says that as far as RCA is concerned, everything is on target and moving as they expected, and they don’t feel the need to fiddle with anything.

I still don’t think it will be the song that blows up on CHR and gets David that “big hit” but it’s a solid bet for HAC. To be honest considering what gets played on CHR now I don’t think any song on DCTR is a lock to be a “big hit” there, just cause of genre.

I always thought this should have been the song they played on Grey’s Anatomy along the whole absurd Izzie/Denny back from the dead story line. Would have been great promo for the song.

Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good, but heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not THAT good. Frankly, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll be shocked if he even gets nominated for a Grammy next year, let alone actually win one. Maybe if he comes out with an album without TPTBà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s influence, but I honestly canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see him having sales on par with Daughtry or Underwood.

As a new artist who charted 11 songs on Billboard at one time, a record since the Beatles in 1963 with 14 songs, I think that Cook has a very good chance of being nominated for a Grammy. His album also went Platinum in 10 weeks competing with many known artists in this crappy economy. I have no doubt that his sales will be on par with Daughtry and Underwood; however they didn’t do it overnight either. Let’s check up on Cook’s sales figures in 3-4 years which is what Daughtry and Carrie have under their belt. When Daughtry & Carrie put out albums it was a totally different market years ago. One thing for sure that since Daughtry, Carrie, and Cook are personally managed by Simon Fuller he sees Cook’s draw, talent, and potential and it sure helps to have the right manager to ensure success who has the right connections in the industry. Cook certainly has the talent to get there.

I actually think that Cook has more vocal range and is more versatile than Daughtry, whom I also like and Daughtry had to go pop/rock to make a go of it whereas I felt he would have liked to be more “hard” rock type of singer. I only listened to Daughtry’s CD around 3 times and now it’s in my stack but I enjoy listening to him on the radio. Carrie is country and has her own market so you can’t really compare Carrie with David. Carrie is very likeable and Cook is also and music lovers respond to that. It’s very hard not to like Cook as a human being–he’s down to earth, sincere, caring and talented which is how I would describe Carrie. Neither Carrie, Daughtry, or Cook are the best singers out there today–there are plenty of fantastic singers. They have that star vibe and presence and all put out a great show live. That is not true for many artists whose CDs are better and when they perform live — not so good.

I actually like CBTM and think it will do well on radio in multiple formats. I prefer this song to Declaration or Bar-ba-sol which is more rock. Rock is a very hard genre to market and CBTM is a very good song. I like all the songs on the album and my “favorite” song is the one I’m listening to. I have never ever liked all the songs on an album and in the past, after a few listens, I tend to get bored and move on but DCTR is something that I can’t get enough of.

I was listening to mix 107.3 (Washington, DC) and the DJ commented about David Cook – particularly that he had 11 songs charting at the same time on Billboard, he loved Cook as did his crew on the air and they all loved LO. Clearly his songs have been featured on various things on TV already as a backdrop and I think that’s a sign that people like Cook and his music. His biggest draw is that he’s such a likeable guy and that goes a long way with people.

It really doesn’t matter what single is released because Cook has proven that he can sell albums versus being a one-hit single type of artist. Releasing singles is a way to generate sales for the album and in Cook’s case, his album is selling just fine. Now that DCTR has already been certified platinum by RIAA, the pressure is off–the rest is gravy!

I love the song, hope it does well. It wasn’t my first choice but I like it a lot more than Light On.

I am almost positive that RCA picks the singles at this point in his career. That I believe is standard for them especially for a new artist.

I was hoping for Declaration or Heroes. Would definitely love Heroes to be next.

Agree that they are taking way too long to get this single to HAC. I.don’t.get.it.

*runs into thread armed with unsubstantiated rumor*

Word on the street is that RCA has greenlighted CBTM :tongue2_tb: annnnd…..Bar Ba Sol :drunk_tb: :jittery_tb: :smoke_tb:. Possibly a dual release. Could all be B.S. Buuut…something to chew on…

*runs out of thread to pray to rock gods*

Well, there is a rumor going around that Bar Ba Sol is going to be co-released to the radio along with Come Back to Me? MJ have you heard anything?

Where did the rumor start? I can see it happening though! The question is – would rock radio give the song a chance?

I have such a huge lick of salt regarding that BBS rumor. At the word Nerd Home board there’s a long thread talking about CBTM as the single, someone who went to the show last night randomly says that after the show DC was asked what the next single will be and he said CBTM and BBS. When asked who asked who asked the question the poster hasn’t responded or been back to the thread.

Would love the rumor to be true but not getting hopes up …

I love Cook’s voice….hate him when he tries to do the Hard rock thing. I think he is absolutely suited to Adult Contemporary Radio and would like him to really think about staying in that genre’ to lengthen his career.

None of David’s performances on AI, in my opinion, were “rock” in its truest sense. He will never be admitted into the rock genre’ by the casual fan and will find himself frustrated if that is what he chooses to do. His voice is to pretty and melodic for rock and he really sounds the best when he puts a rock/pop twist on songs….therefore AC is where he needs to be. I can’t make it through 30 seconds of BBS, I just feel like it is a bad imitation of a rock song.

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make it through 30 seconds of BBS, I just feel like it is a bad imitation of a rock song.

I completely agree with you, he can rock with Kiss On The Neck or Let Go (from Analog Heart) but they are still rock/pop songs and it’s ok. I always skip BBS, I’m not a big fan of that song, I think it doesn’t suit him and sounds a little forced.

I never found another fan not liking BBS, well maybe there’s only two of us.

Speaking about Come Back To Me, it’s one of my favorites on DCTR. It has all the means to become a hit, catchy lyrics and easy-listening music. It has the touch of european rock groups like Snow Patrol, which has amazing songs (like Chasing Cars).

I don’t know why all the people is thinking his next single is going to be their favorite song on the album, RCA is a successful music company which surely knows its business. But whatever it’s a great tune that will be a huge hit, and 3/30 is still a month away maybe they change their minds.

Well, I would’ve picked the following as singles:

1st Single: Declaration
2nd: Come Back To Me
3rd: Heroes
4th: Permanent
5th: Life On The Moon / Lie

Since the room to breathe from one single to another is 5 months, we will have a new album by 2011 LOL.

Not a big fan of CBTM, but I can see it being good for radio. I don’t know whether or not to believe the Barbasol rumor. I will say that that song is easily one of my favorites. When the band performs that song in concert, it’s electric!

I will say that I love that he’s so versatile, and I’d hate for him to get stuck in the Adult Contemporary world. I don’t feel like that is truly him, but I guess RCA/19 has a path for him that they are working towards. As long as he can keep putting out good music, I’m good.

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make it through 30 seconds of BBS, I just feel like it is a bad imitation of a rock song.

I think it’s just the opposite. When Dave and the band perform that song it just clicks and it’s tons of fun to watch them obviously having so much fun. A natural element kind of thing, pre-AI Dave coming out to play, something like that. CBTM is the one song that seems most un-Cook-ish to me. I mean, those lyrics are barely a step above Magic Rainbow, and his own songwriting is very much about the lyrics with the quirky word usage. There’s just something about it that seems like he’s wearing someone else’s clothes. The fit isn’t quite right. Sigh.

My picks would have been…

1) Declaration
2) Avalanche
3) Kiss on the Neck to CHR, HAC and rock/Permanent to AC
4) Lie to HAC and CHR/ BBS to rock radio
5) Heroes or LOTM

I have same feeling, hard rock is the worst part in his own whole music. When I listen to BBS, I always worry about he will ruin his voice. The performance was good.

he really sounds the best when he puts a rock/pop twist on songsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

You know,you got me thinking…. for me, the reason Cook putting a rock twist on the pop songs worked well in the confines of AI was not really because he found his vocal niche, but because he took cheesy lyrics and reinterpretted them in a way that made the songs a lot cooler. Hello…hated that song because Lionel seemed oblivious of the stalkerish undertones when he sang it. Cook embraced the stalker vibe and made the song darker, and suddenly it’s tolerable. ABMB…Mariah sounded waaaay too peppy in that song, like a chick who is delusionally refusing to accept the relationship is over. Cookie made the tone more haunting, and the lyrics took on this wistful quality that made the song so much less annoying. When you add in the Adam factor you can buy it as a homage to the deeper ties that bind. Now compare that to CBTM…they handed him a poppy song with cheesy lyrics, and he’s singing it straight, really, on the record. There’s no Cook twist to it. Maybe the live version would be more Cookified and tolerable, but as is, it doesn’t work for me. He’s got so much more to offer than nice vocals, but you’d never know it from that track.

His voice is to pretty and melodic for rock and he really sounds the best when he puts a rock/pop twist on songsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

Couldn’t have said it better than that. However, his voice fits many formats and his vocal range is incredible. Rock music has morphed into many different vibes. You can play with it and spin it in many different ways. He puts a “rock” edge to his music and that makes it fun. He is not “hard” rock but he can do that. His Analog Heart music is not hard rock. If you compare him to Daughtry, Cook has a better vocal range and Daughtry’s music, though folks call him “rock” is not rock but pop/rock.

I find “rock” edge type music fun music–it’s concert-going music and it makes me want to roll down the windows in my car, turn up the volume and blast it. He even puts a “rock” edge to ballads.

I particularly like listening to songs that I can sing along to, nice lyrics and not too complicated and something that has emotion and feeling to it–otherwise it’s just a song. I need to relate to the song.

David’s songs on DCTR is eclectic and there is something for everyone. He touches you in these songs and there is a lot of passion in them. I have to believe that the singer has experienced what he/she is singing. I like to listen to music on a CD that has different types of songs–a good mix otherwise it would all sound the same and quite boring. This is why he sells more albums than singles. This is why nobody can make up their minds on which song they like best on his CD at any one time.

Excellent choice. I like Permanent better, but Come Back to Me is a nice song that can appeal to a lot of different audiences. I think Bar-ba-sol is the weakest track on the CD. He is NOT a heavy rocker, and I think Time of My Life showed how much the public likes his softer side. Put Bar-ba-sol next to songs by Nickleback, Three Doors Down, Lifehouse, and others, and it doesn’t work (never mind Daughtry). I like mid-tempo or ballads, and I have always been a fan of Come Back to Me. Pretty song.

As far as the Cook haters, as rightly pointed out, his CD has already gone platinum, with one pretty blah song (Light On) as the first single. Look for a lot more success with CBTM.