UPDATE 3: ALSO streaming on David’s You Tube channel-embedded after the jump.

UPDATE 2: DCO is streaming the song now HERE.

UPDATE: According to the RCA Mod at DCO, the leaked version IS NOT the final version. “consider it a collection item,” he says.

The new David Cook single, “The Last Goodbye” has leaked. You can listen to it HERE.

This is totally unauthorized, so it will probably be taken down at some point. The new song will be released to iTunes tonight. Maybe AOL or Yahoo will put up a legit stream today. If they do, I’ll replace.

My thoughts? To be perfectly honest, I was hoping the tunes on David’s new set would be less generic/poppy than on his post Idol debut, David Cook. “The Last Goodbye” isn’t exactly fulfilling that wish, but it’s got a decent hook and a shot at HAC radio. I hope it succeeds.

I’m looking forward to hearing the rest of the album when it’s released on June 28.

Audio after the JUMP…

 
  • tierbee

    *Drags bunker (and booze) to new location*

    Not surprised it’s on the pop side – knew that was coming with Tedder co-write. But the end of the world is definitely upon us ’cause I like a David Cook single, a lot, on first listen. It’s a driving-with-the-windows-down sort of song.

    I’d be surprised if the rest of the album was this “pop.”

  • Soberba

    I enjoyed Cook’s voice, as usual, but the song is a bit generic. But I’m not a big fan of Tedder anyway. I think it can do well on radio. Anyway, it must be exciting for David’s fans. It’s been a long long wait.

  • Kirsten

    LOL. When I heard the “If You Hear This on the Radio” first line, I thought it was a watermark.

    I like the verses, but the jumble of guitars seems to crowd out Cook’s voice on the verses. It’s like bandzilla took over the production room. It ate the hook.

    It seemed fine, if not very remarkable. If RCA gets behind it, I think it can do well on radio. Why not? I like the guitar in the intro and Cook always sounds good.

  • blmetsfan

    It’s pretty catchy, albeit a bit generic. It should do well on HAC, though.

  • leome

    I like it quite a lot. And it’s a good jam in the car. lol

    I didn’t think they’d go with anything harder for a first single, it just wouldn’t make it easy for radio to play it. Who knows how this will do, but it seems very radio friendly, and I don’t mean just HAC friendly.
    The song is more upbeat than what I expected though, but I like that.

    It has a nice beat and the voice isn’t hidden behind too much production, which is cool.
    All in all, the 78464 times I have played show my love for it. lol

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Ummm. I don’t have a problem with poppier production, but it could be better produced. And yeah, the song is pretty generic. We will see, if it catches interest.

  • J9BT

    I didn’t love it, but I didn’t hate it. I think it’s the kind of song that could grow on me as I hear it more. I think it could do well on the radio with support from RCA (which I’m assuming it will have). Nice to hear Cook’s voice again!

  • PRMari

    I don’t love it. I like it but I find it generic & poppy. However, knowing how labels work, it’s probably the weakest song in the album, they seem to choose those as first single all the time.

  • alonzo7

    Yes it is pretty generic but might do well on the radio-long time comin for Cookie music.

  • larc

    I’m a little disappointed. It’s just flat out over produced, IMO. Sounds as if Cookie is practically having to scream to be heard and his vocals are still overwhelmed. As for the song itself, the hook could be stronger. But I guess any Cookie is better than no Cookie.

  • Tess

    Alrighty then…I think I’ll just read the discussion and keep my thoughts private except to say this is not what I had expected.

  • cheese

    Hey, I finally listened and I’m not making the stink face that I made the first time I heard “Light On.”

    This is sort of how I always expected a post-Idol David Cook single to sound, so I’m just getting it 3 years late. So yeah, I will like it unless it tanks, and then I will hate it and start whining about RCA.

  • fadetowhite

    Having adjusted to the poppier sound, which is not surprising for the first single – for which I can thank the short lived Amazon snippet – I really like this for what it is: a radio song.

    It’s an enjoyable listen; it will play well in the car; I think it will work in the way that it should…

    Hey – it’s not going to become my favourite ever song, but music works in different ways for different purposes (though I prefer Paper Heart overall).

    And it could have been a whole lot worse – it even seemed that it might be on first snippet reaction. It could have been CBTM 2 (horrors);it could have had totally banal lyrics.

    Instead it has a cross between guitar and plinky plonk pop sound; it’s fast, light and carries you with it and Cook’s muscular voice gives it a bit more weight than it would otherwise have…

    It could very easily do well…

  • unidentified

    I really like it, really. Didn’t think I would this much because it is poppier than anything I have heard him do before. I really like David’s voice on it. It’s got a great melody, makes you toe-tap. ha

  • tierbee

    However, knowing how labels work, it’s probably the weakest song in the album, they seem to choose those as first single all the time.

    LOL, well, I don’t think that was the case last time though it was close – if they would’ve released “I Did It For You” then yes in my opinion ;) I was afraid they were going to do it, though, not gonna lie. But “weakest” is entirely subjective – they test these things out I’m sure and they are looking for radio friendly. For me, radio friendly usually means “song I like the least” but in this case I actually really like the song and am not in the least bit surprised it leans to pop since… it’s a Tedder cowrite.

  • canadiandcfan

    best way to start a week :) i love Cook so any song is better than no song. i did like this on the first listen, which is a step up from Light On last time around…. So excited for the eventual upcoming tour and prmotion for this album! pleasssseee promotional Gods make this hit the airwaves :)

  • Trina

    Its even harder now to get rock sounding songs played than it was back when LO came out so I fully expected a pop song..and I like this way better than LO.

    I’d make a safe bet this is the most “poppy” sounding song on the album. Plus they probably had hopes of making anything he wrote with Ryan be the first single. Even Clay got a Tedder first single even though it was a boring song Ryan wrote years ago and shoved in a reject pile..

  • PRMari

    LOL, well, I don’t think that was the case last time though it was close – if they would’ve released “I Did It For You” then yes in my opinion

    Haha, you have to understand, I’m an Allison Iraheta fan too.

  • tinawina

    I feel weird because I flat out liked it. I feel like I’m supposed to be disappointed but I’m not. LOL It’s an upbeat pop/rock song. I do want to hear the actual mix, but this is WAY better than my reaction to Light On.

    Now I want to see the video.

  • Balance

    This is not what I expected either. Who could have predicted, especially given all the speculation this weekend over the album name, imagery, etc that David Cook would put out a FUN song? But it’s fun damnit!

    I am 100% certain that this will not be my favorite song on TLM but I’m also 100% certain that I am going to LOVE singing along to this in the car!

  • tierbee

    So yeah, I will like it unless it tanks, and then I will hate it and start whining about RCA.

    I will still like it but I will like it from the drunken joy of my bunker while I whine about RCA ;)

  • connico479

    This song is earworm music like all of Cook’s own songs. Funny but some think it is too poppy and some are complaining about too many guitars. This song is about a zillion times better that most of the crap currently topping the charts. David’s voice and phrasing saves it from being truly generic while it is catchy enough to be popular on the radio. This is what is needed. Pull in new listeners with a radio hit and then hook them for good with the rest of the album. Having heard at least Paper Heart, I know it will be great.

    Apparently, we are also getting deluxe editions with extra goodies this time around. Kudos for THAT!

  • standtotheright

    LOL, well, I don’t think that was the case last time though it was close – if they would’ve released “I Did It For You” then yes in my opinion

    CBTM is a pit of despair, but I definitely think LO was a stronger choice than IDIFY or Heroes. (That’s part of the reason I don’t get unreservedly gleeful when he writes with Maida; their collaborations split right down the middle between top tier songs on the album and bottom tier.)

    I’m holding out, not for any moral reason but because work puter frowns on sketchy file sharing and because I don’t trust the leakers to have the (relatively) less compressed version that will go to retail sale.

    But I’m not shocked by the reactions. Any of them.

  • tierbee

    I feel weird because I flat out liked it. I feel like I’m supposed to be disappointed but I’m not.

    See, we’re in the same boat. It’s the end of the world, I tell you. *I* like it and now *you* like it? But hey, if we have to go to the bunker we can drunkenly dance to the single that we miraculously like! :)

    It is totally a driving, singing and toe tapping song for me. I am looking forward to hearing it live. And I am laughing that I pictured this sad, gloomy song… how could I have assumed anything, this is WTFCook?! :)

  • tierbee

    Haha, you have to understand, I’m an Allison Iraheta fan too.

    Aw, me too, I love her album :(

  • leome

    I can see this being the most radio friendly/generic on the album. Not sure about “weakest”, but yeah, first single and all, probably the least special and more trying to be catchy.
    However, I don’t find it to be that pop, and sure not more than CBTM. The guitars and the tone he uses in this one make it more rockish than CBTM ever was.
    It’s a fun pop/rock song that one feels like singing along to. It’s no Bar-ba-sol or Mr. Sensitive, lol, but I don’t think it’s more pop than a lot of the last album.

  • tierbee

    But I’m not shocked by the reactions. Any of them.

    No, I think it’ll be all over the place. But it does sound radio-friendly so HOPEFULLY it’ll do its job. And I am thinking, too, that this is as “pop” as the album gets. I want Paper Heart and the NFT/Andy/Cook song, please. Is it June yet?!

  • Paulie

    I really like this, and I’m not really much of a Cook fan. :) I love how upbeat it is compared to LO and CBTM, and I love the whoa-oh’s in the background. Hee! Reminds me of The Script/KoL beats, which is not necessarily a bad thing.

  • Garnetstar

    Tinawina. LOL I know right? Pretty sure I’m not supposed to like a song this fun and pop oriented. Expectations on a first single were going to be pretty high. People have had 3 years to think about it. I knew RCA was aiming for a CHR hit and they didn’t pull their punches. No splitting the difference this time around.

    I mean the song is fast. Like I wonder if this is the actual speed on the final mix? Will Kyle be able to drum that fast?

    There seems to be a lot of interesting production. I think the vocals are upfront and clear. I love the varied harmony and I think that is either Skib or Kyle doing backing harmonies? Haven’t had a chance to listen via headphones. I don’t think the instrumentation is muddy at all. That was my biggest pet peeve with DCTR. I can pick out Kyles frenetic drumming style, I can hear Neals guitar. I can hear Davids voice.

  • pattycake

    I knew from the Tedder cowrite and the snippet it was going to be too pop for my liking. I have not listened to the leak, because all the descriptions provided indicate my fear of a generic pop tune. I loved the lyric I saw, but I think I will wait until Thursday to hear it. I think I need a Cook performance to lure me out of the bunker.
    Perhaps the lyric and Cook’s ability to express a song will convert me to a Pop listener.

  • listen

    On second listen (heard it last night in the other thread :-) ), this time with the volume turned up to a decent level, I like it better, but I am still not lovin’ it (the song) but David’s voice sounds great! (a bit too much music to voice)
    It is catchy so yea for that!

  • fadetowhite

    Oh and ITA about the comparison with reaction to Light On.

    Really – and I say this from a position of irredemable fandom, or so it seems – after Light On and CBTM, anything that is at least OK and radio fit seems wonderful to me. Those are the only two songs on DCTR that I don’t listen to (oh, those two and TOML, but I try to forget that that is there at all), so Cook singles do not have a happy hit rate with me.

    And I enjoyed listening to this – I did.

  • Q3

    Doesn’t do much for me — so I guess that is a good sign for getting radio airplay. :) And it does sound like it should roll right into HAC — which is great for the album.

    I really like pop and pop-rock music — but I do not like the production of this song at all — and the upbeat pop orientation doesn’t work with the lyrics for me.

    I would love to hear an acoustic David Cook version of this same song. Just take away all that “stuff”.

    I will have to listen again later today when I am awake — maybe that is the problem.

    ETA: fadetowhite — I skip the same too songs and I do like this better than either LO or CBTM — I am very optimistic about the album, just wish I liked this more.

  • tierbee

    And now it’s firmly stuck in my head. I didn’t want to loooooseee youuuu…

  • luci

    I like it a lot actually. I serves it’s purpose, how much you wanna bet that you will be humming this song later. Catchy as hell.

  • hazuki

    Reminds me of Since You’ve Been Gone, but I doubt it will make the same impact. Regardless really like the song, and hope it finds some success on radio.

  • justshootme

    Sounds like the kind of song my HAC station will play the crap out of, should do well. I don’t hate it as much as LO or CBTM. Doubtful I’d be able to get thru the whole thing without switching the dial tho, just not my thing.

  • sassypants

    i think it will be mission accomplished as far as RCA. I knew it would be pop and Im not a fan of pop but its catchy..one of those songs if its in the background on the radio, you’re gonna tap your foot or your pencil without even realizing it. It gets a little muddled in the middle with over production, but its got all the elements of a radio friendly hit song. At least its not Come Back to Me #2 and Cook’s voice as always, is fantastic.

  • GwendolynD

    Kinda makes me think of “Since U Been Gone.” I like it, though.

  • sma11ie

    Hey, I finally listened and I’m not making the stink face that I made the first time I heard “Light On.”

    LOL, I made a stank face when I first heard LO as well, and ooooh boy was I overinvested then. Well, still overinvested but with a lot more perspective, I guess. That said, your comment made me giggle because I mad a bit of a face at the beginning of this song too. I like the way it starts (although, I’m hoping a few seconds were shaved off this version, since it starts a bit abruptly and I wanted a slightly longer instrumental intro), and then the verse took a few unexpected turns and I made a face, and then we got into the chorus and I was like, yeah!

    So yeah, I think I like it!

    I feel weird because I flat out liked it. I feel like I’m supposed to be disappointed but I’m not. LOL It’s an upbeat pop/rock song. I do want to hear the actual mix, but this is WAY better than my reaction to Light On.

    Now I want to see the video.

    Braintwin! I wanna see the video and I want to hear an HQ version. AND I wanna see a live performance (is it Thursday yet?). I’m in “like” mode. After two out of these three wants, (by Thursday!) I’m pretty sure I’ll be in FLOVE mode. Heh.

    Instead it has a cross between guitar and plinky plonk pop sound; it’s fast, light and carries you with it and Cook’s muscular voice gives it a bit more weight than it would otherwise have…

    Pretty good assessment. The plonky sound fits a lot better in context than in the 30 second clip. I REALLY wanna hear the instrumentation better on the HQ version.

  • sr4mjc

    This will do great on HAC, prob Top 5. We’ll see how hard RCA pushes CHR. It’s still far from a pop song. It can probably squeeze into a non-dance playlist slot.

    The Oh-oh-ohs in it make me start singing No Surprise and Use Somebody. It’s a solid single, not particularly shocked by the choice. It’s not special, it’s just solid. And solid isn’t bad considering how long he’s been between radio singles. Should do fine.

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    OK, after two more listens with my headphones ….

    I have to admit I’m not the biggest fan of HAC pop/rock music. I think this song is definitely catchy, but I can’t help myself, I think it’s also pretty generic.

    I’m still not happy with the production. The guitars hurt my ears. I would prefer even poppier production.

    Oh and I liked “Light On”.

    Now I go back to listening to “Judas”.

  • lili_anne7

    This song is radio-friendly, but it’s very generic. I don’t hate it, but I don’t love it either. There is nothing remarkable about this song, but then again many Top 40 songs are also lackluster, so I guess it has a chance to do well. Honestly, I prefer Light On a lot more.

  • bridgette12

    It’s not what I expected, it’s so pop and kind of fast. I didn’t start off liking it, but toward the end of the song I did.

  • MollyAnnMay

    Now I want to see the video.

    Ahaha. I hadn’t thought of that. Will he bounce? He’d better not try walking backwards to this tempo or he’ll fall over.

    The lyrics and music are so different from each other that it’s tempting to picture them going a really snarky route with the visuals. Which I would *love*.

    Haha, you have to understand, I’m an Allison Iraheta fan too.

    Me too, so much — and my biggest fear was that Cook was going to get clobbered with same Pro-Tools attack used on Allison on FIBOY. But he escaped! *and the crowd goes wild*

    I can pick out Kyles frenetic drumming style, I can hear Neals guitar.

    Me too and I can totally picture Kyle going to town on this. As I said in the other thread, I do think this has the potential to rock out live. So altogether I’m good. (Er, unless it fails in its job as a radio song. Then I… won’t be good. So do your job, little bouncy song!)

  • lili_anne7

    The Oh-oh-ohs in it make me start singing No Surprise and Use Somebody

    ITA, it made me think of Use Somebody immediately.

  • unidentified

    Poor “Light On” always getting picked on. I loved it, still do. But “Come Back To Me” ugh.

    So we can get this after midnight tonight I guess. I want to get the better download version. But I can’t remember, is Amazon or Itunes better?

  • Chicagolaw

    This is pretty good. It’s not going to ever be my favorite Cook song (a little generic) but it is probably a very smart way to launch David for album #2. It’s been a long time for radio.

    I do think it is probably safe to say that this will be the most “pop” sounding song on the record. And, it will do really well, I’m sure, on HAC.

    Really can’t wait to hear the album.

  • fadetowhite

    I think the vast majority of songs on the radio are pretty generic – although I also think it’s an overused adjective, to be honest.

    Which is probably why this stands a good chance of doing well.

    If there’s nothing meatier on the album, I won’t be so happy – however, I’ve already seen plenty of indications that there is more stuff in my ball park to come: Paper Heart and the Cook/Neil/Andy song just for starters.

    But then, I expect different things from an album from what I know has to happen with a single…

  • ladymadonna

    Well I’m pleased as punch. It’s about as pop as Cook can go without losing his Cookishness, but his voice sounds killer which definitely makes it stand out amongst the current pop landscape. It’s uptempo and catchy as hell – definitely an HAC smash and it has all the elements to roll the dice and maybe be one of the token pop-rock songs to find a place in the CHR rotation. It’s a perfect summer single, and I think it will do its job quite well. Can’t wait to hear the rest of the album that surrounds it.

    ETA: Interesting comparisons to Since You’ve Been Gone. Didn’t hear it at first but now that you mention it…similar vibe for sure. Hmmm.

  • tinawina

    I’m still not happy with the production. The guitars hurt my ears. I would prefer even poppier production.

    I don’t think this is the final mix, so you might get your wish. LOL

    The Oh-oh-ohs in it make me start singing No Surprise and Use Somebody

    I did not think of Use Somebody at all, but I guess the ooh oohs are kinda like that now that you mention it.

    The plonky sound fits a lot better in context than in the 30 second clip.

    I know, right. It just confirms my mantra: SNIPPETS LIE. :D

  • aa618892

    I am not a big Cook fan but I really liked the song. It sounds like something Daughtry would do so I don’t know if it is distinctly Cook but I think it would do well on radio. Good luck Cook fans! This is a nerve racking time. I know when Adam releases his first new single I will be a wreck!

  • sunchick

    Pattycake I’m holding out until Thursday too. For me it’s just way more fun and exciting to experience a new Cook song with a live performance, and after all this waiting I want to make the most of it. But the waiting SUX. Especially since I can’t stay out of this thread.

  • rayni

    Still easy. It’s still David. I love it.

  • Chicagolaw

    Ladymadonna, I agree, this is about as far “pop” as Cook can be pushed and still feel like its David Cook. “Generic” may be an overused term, but that best sums this song up to me. RCA said we need an uptempo, hooky song for radio—bring in Tedder, and there you have it. I think the album will have much more interesting songs. In any event, add a good RCA push and this song should get the job done :) And, as an added bonus, DC will really be able to rock this song live.

    Oh, and it is about 100 times better than CBTM (I can’t get through that song without cringing)

  • jpfan

    Ryan Tedder co write this? It’s ok but so generic. Who knew it was so hard to come up with good songs.

  • car3278sweet

    I’ve forgotten how much I always liked Cook’s voice.

    I really like pop and pop-rock music — but I do not like the production of this song at all — and the upbeat pop orientation doesn’t work with the lyrics for me.

    Yeah. After listening to it twice, this was my reaction too. But heck, Cook can sing the phone book and be good, and I’m hoping this single will fly for him and his fans.

  • oza902

    The song doesn’t really trigger any knee jerk reactions.. like I either love it or hate it.. so I think that’s kind of a good thing. I wouldn’t change the radio station if it were on. I guess I wasn’t expecting this kind of pop from Cook.

    I guess it’s alright. As long as it gets airplay, that’s all that matters! It’s definitely radio friendly.

  • windmills

    The production makes the song catchy and IMO it’ll definitely be a HAC smash with the possibility of top 20 CHR. It takes some little things production wise from some of Kelly’s biggest pop/rock hits and KOL’s Use Somebody, the melody borrows bits from other big hits, and the lyrics are eh so it’s not a really distinctive or great song. But Cook is going to sound GREAT on it live and the chorus has an anthemic feel that’ll get casual fans involved so I think it’ll do its job.

  • Indigobunting

    Well, it definitely wasn’t what I was expecting with the title; but I like it :) Good to hear Cookie in any way or form.

    I don’t like it as much as CBTM (I am in the minority on that one I think, lol), but way better that LO.

  • Hazehel

    I’m kinda indifferent to it – don’t hate it, but can’t say I like it either, just not the kind of songs I’d listen to. I don’t think I’m the one to judge whether it will do well or not – I disliked Kelly’s My Life Would Suck Without You, but it’s a big hit, and I can never understand why KOL’s Sex on Fire didn’t do as well as Use Somebody when it’s a better song.

    I do think however the song could be improved with some slight adjustments in the melody and production.

  • sma11ie

    The Oh-oh-ohs in it make me start singing No Surprise and Use Somebody

    Ohh… now that you mention it. Think you’re right that the oh-oh-ohs are in the same(ish?) note progression as the ones in Use Somebody… but they’re faster here, and way less prominent, as they’re softer background vocals. But then again popular songs having the same three note progressions somewhere in a song is pretty common. If you thought hard about every song on the radio, you’ll easily find dozens of these cases. I don’t remember oh-oh-ohs in No Surprise. But I think there’s a line in there that’s like “this is no surprise”, right? That does sound a little similar to “this is the last goodbye”. Or am I making that up? I haven’t listened to No Surprise in a while so I’m going from memory.

    Interesting comparisons to Since You’ve Been Gone.

    I think it’s the opening 5 seconds, and that’s it. The rest doesn’t remind me of SUBG at all. FTR, I FLOVE SUBG, so I personally wouldn’t have minded a big SUBG similarity, but I don’t really hear it.

    But you know, all these comparisons to other songs are kind of refreshing, and possibly a good thing. I feel like with a lot of the DCTR songs, as much as I loved some of them, I often felt like none of them would’ve been good on the radio because none of them sounded or reminded me too much of popular radio songs. I agree with whoever said the Raida collabs are hit or miss. They had interesting bits to them, but none sounded like they’d be right on the radio.

    Anyway, I’ve got high hopes for this one. Yay, I’m excited! I got a term paper due Thursday, so I better get it done early so I can watch AI live :)

    I disliked Kelly’s My Life Would Suck Without You, but it’s a big hit, and I can never understand why KOL’s Sex on Fire didn’t do as well as Use Somebody when it’s a better song.

    I loved MLWSWU at first listen, but my favorite song on OBTN was Closer. IMO Closer > Sex on Fire > Use Somebody.

  • standtotheright

    I can never understand why KOL’s Sex on Fire didn’t do as well as Use Somebody when it’s a better song.

    Because Caleb Followill’s voice in the chorus makes it sound like the title isn’t a metaphor?

    I know a lot of people who are big rock fans otherwise and loathe that song. I personally think KOL hasn’t done a damn thing worth downloading since Molly’s Chambers.

    They had interesting bits to them, but none sounded like they’d be right on the radio.

    Actually Mr. S. had a lot of similarities to some other alt-rock singles IMO. With another band’s name behind it I think it could have been a minor hit there.

  • jessicahsmom

    Hey it doesn’t talk about sex, drugs or beating the crap out of someone (coming from someone with a special needs child at home), I can always count on Cook to have music for him to listen too. I think it’s a catchy song and I think it will do great being the first release. I just hope they keep the momentum up with the other releases (they obviously fell short on the last album).

    Besides when he performs this song live along with the others on the new album you know he will change it up and put his own little spin on it and even do some with the acoustic touch (which are always a big hit). I think a lot of people were wanting Paper Heart to be the first song to be released but, I am sure they had their reasons for picking this one?

  • GwendolynD

    Interesting comparisons to Since You’ve Been Gone. Didn’t hear it at first but now that you mention it…similar vibe for sure. Hmmm.

    Yeah…certainly a similar vibe – in the low intensity of the chorus and guitar-driven chorus.

  • doggiedr

    I’ve been off the Cook train since he intimated that he would prefer my 55 year old ass not be front row and screaming at his concerts, but I do keep track and will buy this album. I am still a fan, but no longer a batshit card carrying fan.

    This is extremely Cookish to me, which in terms of fostering a unique sound is a very good thing.
    I think it will do quite well on HAC, and if it is adequately supported by RCA it could be Top 10 material IMO.
    I liked it better than I thought I would, more than I had hoped, but wasn’t gobsmacked. I would not call it generic by any means, but neither is it groundbreaking.

    It is a good, solid single and I do hope he does very well with it.

    ETA:
    I like it more every time I listen to it, and that is a very good thing. I am optimistic.

  • SashaB

    I feel weird because I flat out liked it. I feel like I’m supposed to be disappointed but I’m not. LOL It’s an upbeat pop/rock song..

    Now I want to see the video.

    LOL, I had a very similar reaction, Tinawina.

    I want to see the video.

    ETA: He sounds great.

  • sr4mjc

    But I think there’s a line in there that’s like “this is no surprise”, right? That does sound a little similar to “this is the last goodbye”.

    Yep. It’s like Use Somebody/No Surprise sped up in a blender with a dash of SUBG. It’ll fit right in with radio. I do like Paper Heart from what I’ve heard live, I’m interested to hear that one recorded and also the one song with piano in it.

  • Buffynut

    Does anyone else hear a little Cold Play in it?
    I don’t hate it but don’t love it. Not as excited as I wanted to be. I am surprised with all the “radio friendly’ comments. I can only see this being played on HAC, not CHR. But I hope it gets it’s chance. I am ready to see Cook live and I think this song will be way better live.

  • standtotheright

    I’ve been off the Cook train since he intimated that he would prefer my 55 year old ass not be front row and screaming at his concerts

    He did? Because some people didn’t seem to get the memo if so.

  • Eyeswideshut2

    I expected to hate it.* But I don’t. So I’m a happy camper :-)

    * And as a measure of how over-obvested I am, I would have been perfectly happy to hate it. Because I’m not the target audience for a CHR hit. Oh, Cook, see how you’ve turned your fans into self-sacrificing altruists?

  • Keel

    I like this quite a bit and hadn’t really thought about it sounding like other songs. But now that you guys mention it, I can definitely hear SUBG (vibe) at the beginning and the oh-oh-ohs are somewhat reminiscent of Use Somebody.

    I think this will do great on radio (HAC and maybe, just maybe, pop radio). But then again, unlike many Cook fans, I didn’t make a stank face when I first heard LO. Heh.

  • BootStar

    I didn’t want to lose you
    Leave you with a broken heart
    But wherever we are, we’re miles apart
    I know that we tried, But his is the last goodbye
    Oh, I didn’t want to let you go
    But wherever we are, we’re miles apart
    I know that we tried, But this is the last goodbye

    That lyric pretty much sums up how I feel about this song! So disappointed. :-(

  • tinawina

    That lyric pretty much sums up how I feel about this song! So disappointed. :-(

    Aww Bootstar!!! **hugs** I’m sorry sweetie. :(

  • Trina

    I was just thinking, for LO his first TV performance was SNL which right there is rare for any new artist and he was a nervous wreck, now his first TV performance for a new era will be AI. No pressure, eh? At least AI is familiar for him and I doubt he’ll break out into hives this time around…

  • cheese

    Now that I’ve listened more than once, I hear a lot of “Fall Back Into Me” in the guitar riffs during the chorus.

    I actually think that David was heading in this general direction based on what we’ve heard from his unreleased pre-Idol album. I know that some fans were expecting an Adele song, lol.

  • blissful

    Now that it’s been mentioned, I do hear shades of “Use Somebody”.

    It’s definitely way more uptempo than I expected and I can understand how it can be a disconnect with the lyrics, but the ernestness in his voice overcomes it.

    Not horrible, not groundbreaking, just a solid song.

    I like it much better than LO (a skip song) and CBTM (non-skip song). Yeah, it’s poppier, but I prefer it over all the Gaga, Katy Perry, Kesha stuff and you know he’s going to sound great live.

    ETA: But if he shows up with back up dancers, it’s over.

  • Buffynut

    OK, upon the 6th listen I am starting to really like it. However, since I can rarely predict hits, not sure if that is a good thing. I also loved Light On the first time I heard it! But LO did well, so why all the LO angsting?

  • sma11ie

    I’ve been off the Cook train since he intimated that he would prefer my 55 year old ass not be front row and screaming at his concerts

    He did? Because some people didn’t seem to get the memo if so.

    I’ve never heard that either.

    At least AI is familiar for him and I doubt he’ll break out into hives this time around…

    Or dry heaving? Heh. I think he’ll still be nervous. I think it’s good though. He was nervous for every single AI performance and he rocked >90% of them. Or maybe I’m projecting because I’m nervous just watching, everytime he plays on AI, lol.

    I wonder if they’re rehearsing now? I hope so! I just hope they kill it. This doesn’t sound like a tough vocal for David (right in his wheelhouse), so I’m sure they will. Can’t wait :)

    Aww, poor Bootstar. That sucks. You’ll just have to wait another 2 months for the record.

  • Brisblondie

    As one who loves angsty, emo, heavy rockin Cook… I actually love this song! It really is a perfect summer song, whoever said that above. The upbeat tempo is different for him, but the vocal melody line is classic Cook imo – and I love that! I rarely like a song very much on the first listen, it takes me a few times to really get into a song, but so far…so good on this one. :)

    YAAAY!! Cannot wait to see this live on AI Thursday night!

  • pattycake

    At least AI is familiar for him and I doubt he’ll break out into hives this time around…

    Or dry heaving?

    I would think this would be more nerve-wreaking. Your own music on a long awaited sophomore album. Trying to crack the sophomore jinks. No worries Cookie (and we know you are reading this) I will have enough hives for both of us!

  • gangreen29

    Not a fan. It is funny how everyone was saying don’t judge by the snippet, it could make it sound worse than it is…because I liked the snippet more than the whole song lol.

  • BootStar

    Yep. It’s like Use Somebody/No Surprise sped up in a blender with a dash of SUBG.

    I wish I could hear the “Use Somebody” because all I can hear is the Chad Kroeger-penned “No Surprise,” another song I loathe.

    Seriously, it’s not you, Dave, it’s me. I think I just hate the kind of music you want to put out. I didn’t need rock. I don’t hate pop. I just HATE songs that sound like they bounced out of a vending machine.

    Matt Serlectic is proving to be every bit the hack I feared. Who produced Adele’s album? Or Bruno Mars’? Those are two pop albums I love.

    I dunno. I guess based on the album cover I was hoping for something maybe more acoustic, where the voice is front and center and the instrumentation sounds like it’s coming from actual musicians and not a machine.

  • spanishfan

    As an avid music lover and an expert on new songs, I am ecstatic. Magnificent new song with a wonderful hook and I am sure it will do wonders on the charts. I cannot wait to see it live on Thursday. It is such a catchy song I am singing it all day.

  • fadetowhite

    But LO did well, so why all the LO angsting?

    :lol – not angsting: I just don’t like it…But it did do well, so again – it did its job.

  • CindyM

    I think it will do great on HAC, not sure about CHR. I’m not a fan of the “ooohh, ooohh”s and I think his angsty voice against the more poppy sound is a little discordant to me. Still think it will go top 5 on hac! Congrats to the Cook fans, its been a long wait!!

  • fadetowhite

    ETA: But if he shows up with back up dancers, it’s over.

    Yeah – but wouldn’t the boards be fun afterwards!

  • mmb

    I like it better than LO and CBTM. I don’t think it is poppy however. Yeah it us uptempo, but I don’t hear pop. I think this will do well on hac- they love him there. I have no crystal ball wrt chr ( if there is even a plan to push it there). I’m not doing cartwheels, but it’s not bad. RCA is clearly giving cook a big push ( yay!) so it should do respectably

  • Chicagolaw

    SO not a fan of Serletic. (But then, I’m not a Rob Thomas fan either) I would have loved for Cook to work with someone like Greg Wells…

  • http://www.dancin.ca dancin

    i love love love cooks voice he could sing about anything and i’d love it~

  • Listening

    Okay i’ll give you my honest first reactions I freaked out and not in a good way. I was like on no I don’t like it. I heard it late last night and got a little depressed. I was like people are gonna hear this and be like what. This isn’t gonna help his album sales, his album is gonna bomb and he’ll be dropped and everyone is gonna forget about him ( no pun intended). No joke I was like why Ryan Tedder you ruined cook does David actually think this will be a smash or was he pressured to put this out b/c it has Ryan Tedder’s name on it? Oh I also thought Ryan Tedder you may be able to do a ballad but you can not do uptempo I do not like this I do not like this Whaaaaaaaa. As well as Please Please Pleasssse let this sound better live or people are just gonna slam Cook.

    Now let me see if I can explain why I didn’t like it. First of all I think the one I heard last night was a demo or messed up b/c it felt like his vocals were sped up so that made it sound bad. Now granted the version I heard on this site has normal sounding vocals and its better but I still don’t like it. 1) I think what is really messing it up for me is the production of it in the beginning of the song that got this build up of instruments but it actually left me w/ the feeling of that cook’s voice was singular that there needed to be more surrounding it. 2)Also I don’t think the uptempo vibe works w/ these ballad-y lyrics it comes off as weird almost insincere. I rather this had been a straight ballad and they’d gone with another uptempo song for his first single. 3)Finally I think i’m a little upset b/c I thought it would be more rock than pop and it doesn’t feel that way. It just seems strange but it seems like cooks stuff has got less rock/hard as his music career progressed at Axium he seemed his hardest, His stint w/ Mid-West kings he was involved some deep jamming stuff, then Analog heart my favorite of his musical chrysalis still had this cool edge. I feel like we’ve never really delved into the rockier rock music in his major label debut and w/ his sophomore single still no signs of it. I don’t now wether it was cooks own decision to go this popy route or weather he was coaxed into it for sales or even if it was a joint decision but whatever the cause I miss the harder rock vibe.

    I hope this Loud Morning is more diverse and isn’t all in this style I need hear some samples so I can get a feel of it. Also I hope i’m wrong about the Last Goodbye and it’s a huge hit heck i’d even take a moderate hit. Also hope it grows on me so I can feel encouraged.

  • leome

    Yeah it us uptempo, but I don’t hear pop.

    Well, it’s not pop. I have seen a few people calling it pop but I honestly don’t know where that comes from. This song is guitar driven, it’s rock. It is uptempo, energetic and the chorus a bit anthemic, but that doesn’t make it pop.

  • tinawina

    It is funny how everyone was saying don’t judge by the snippet, it could make it sound worse than it is…because I liked the snippet more than the whole song lol.

    No, no… that’s exactly how it works! Whatever you feel about a snippet you will feel the opposite about the whole song. LOL. They are evil. 30 seconds of deception, I tell ya. :D

  • jenipop

    I love it, very catchy. I hope it does well on radio. But then I am a major Cook fan, so I am a little biased. I wasn’t a big fan of LO or CBTM, both are too ballady. This is a much better song. I can’t wait to hear it on Idol and at his show in D.C. on Apr. 29th.

  • CindyM

    Matt Serlectic is proving to be every bit the hack I feared. Who produced Adele’s album? Or Bruno Mars’? Those are two pop albums I love.

    Bootstar, Adele had multiple producers. Tedder produced Rumor Has It, Rick Rubin produced four tracks, Jim Abbis and Paul Epworth produced two each.

    Bruno Mars album is produced by his writing and production team called “The Smeezingtons”

  • Trina

    BootStar I doubt this is what he WANTS to put out. I’m sure if he had his way his first single would be a rock song. But at the same time he’s not stupid and I’m sure he knows airplay is a necessity.

    Lol I wonder if James is going to sit there Thursday listening to David sing this so-not-very-rawk song and start getting skeered in the event he gets too far and actually has to put out music under Iovine. *shudder*

    All these years and multiple smashes Kelly still can’t handpick her single choices so no, David sure as heck won’t have that kind of power.

  • Joyed

    I am loving reading everyone’s opinions – especially cause they are so diverse. I knew the first single would do that because there is no way it would appeal to everyone.

    My first reaction was how different it sounded. I think that alone held my attention – it gets into the song so quickly. I enjoyed it. Now as for how well it will do, I cannot judge. I like a lot of songs and what I like or don’t like means nothing as far as how it will chart, lol.

    My reaction to Light On was that it did not sound like his other music and it was a surprise. I still liked it though. I also liked CBTM and I think it’s only problem is that it’s not very gripping or memorable. I also wanted to state that I think RCA was right to choose them as singles. My friend only listens to CHR and after listening to the album she told me those two were her favorites – and this was way before CBTM was picked as a single. This tells me that their research for the songs was probably pretty good as far as a reasonable hit for radio.

    The only comments I’ve read in this thread that I don’t think are fair yet are the ones about the production because we have no idea if the leak is an HQ, final mixed version, and I truly believe that matters when it comes to judging that kind of thing. (However, I doubt opinions will shift too much from where they currently are).

    I’m now hopeful that the album has a really good mix of songs – from uptempo to midtempo to ballads, cause that lack of variety was one of the greater failings on the first CD (cause I genuinely like those songs).

  • leome

    I’m not familiar with Matt Serlectic and his work and don’t have an opinion one way or another, but I am happy with what he did here. There’s a lot of instrumentation in the song but Cook’s voice is still center and loud and there. That’s all I could ask for. It’s actually better than LO in that camp, despite the song being more busy.

    David was never an acoustic guy or a hard rock guy, so I never expected either option for him. However, he can do acoustic and some harder rock pretty well and has done it, but those ar exceptions to his general work.

  • sr4mjc

    Matt Serlectic is proving to be every bit the hack I feared. Who produced Adele’s album?

    Adele has a different producers for each track.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_%28Adele_album%29

    If James doesn’t win or become runner-up, I’d be shocked if they sign him.

  • jumpstart

    Well, I love it (and not just because it’s DC). It’s upbeat, catchy and a total ear worm. Can’t wait to hear DC perform it live this week.

  • Zastine4974

    Well the “generic” word showed up. Knew it would. Everyone likes to put Cook in a box. He needs a CHR hit and when he delivers, everyone thinks it’s too “generic”. Well guess what folks, CHR IS GENERIC. If this is what it takes to get Cook to the next level, so be it.

    He has better in him (will wait to rush to judgement until the album comes out) but he NEEDS this at this point in his career.

  • Chicagolaw

    Cook will eventually get to put out his “rock record.” But it is going to be 3 or 4 albums down the road, I think.

    At this point, the label needs to get something out of this—and we all know the state of music right now and the special “difficulties” an Idol alum has in rock/alternative.

    Zastine4974, I don’t think this song is a CHR hit. My KISS station is not gonna touch it. However, it should be a nice HAC hit. This is just what a station like WTMX The Mix will love.

  • sma11ie
    But LO did well, so why all the LO angsting?

    :lol – not angsting: I just don’t like it…But it did do well, so again – it did its job.

    Yeah, LO eventually did well, but it was an uphill climb. A LOT of fans disliked it at first listen, and it was definitely not a natural fit for CHR. Z100′s PM even came out and said it wasn’t a good fit for their station, and didn’t pick it up until after David visited their station the week of the record release and apparently charmed them or something, lol. After that, it picked up a lot, and eventually went top 20 on CHR, but honestly, it was not an easy road. Despite the Z100 add, a lot of big pop stations in Boston, LA, DC never ever played it. It was just an odd choice of first single for an extremely popular Idol winner at the time, who was poised to be readily embraced by CHR– until they heard LO and their enthusiasm fizzled. It was a bit of a momentum killer. And the CBTM was of course the nail in the CHR coffin, heh. That’s how I saw it, anyway.

    In other news, I can’t stop listening to TLG. Wheee!

  • Amanda :)

    I agree it’s a little more pop than we expected, but I highly doubt the rest of the album will be this much pop. I mean, this is to be released tonight and the rest of the album is released June 28th, so this has probably been set to be the first single for awhile now. Meaning it’s probably altered to appeal to the masses; not so much the small group of Cook fans, but those who listen to Gaga, Katy Perry, and Taylor Swift on mainstream radio. And that’s not wrong or anything; I mean, take it from the label’s perspective. I didn’t become a DC fan for awhile, because I didn’t really like Light On. (I mean, I love it NOW, but not then.) I don’t think Light On really represented DCTR very well as a whole, either. But I mean, how many of us think Light On is the BEST on DCTR? The first single is never the best, and I’ve learned not to judge an entire album off the first single. David is a true rocker and I don’t think this is his first choice, also because he knows what the fans like (because they scream it at him every time he sings live..) It’s gonna sound awesome live anyways, since it won’t have pop production.

    Personally I prefer angst-y Cook, but I just LOVE those big choruses. So I do actually like this song; I’ll definitely listen to it a ton on my iPod tomorrow, but it just won’t get 387 plays like A Daily AntheM did. Actually, I’ve been listening to The Last Goodbye while I typed this thing and I actually like it a lot.. :)

  • gangreen29

    I don’t really see why Cook NEEDS a CHR hit.

  • BootStar

    David was never an acoustic guy or a hard rock guy, so I never expected either option for him. However, he can do acoustic and some harder rock pretty well and has done it, but those ar exceptions to his general work.

    Unfortunately, it was those “exceptions” that made me a fan.

    Oh, well. I already pre-ordered the album based on faith in his artistic “progression,” so I guess I’ll just keep my fingers crossed he throws a few bones to those of us who prefer his musical “outliers.”

    Thanks, CindyM, for that info!

  • tierbee

    Finally I think i’m a little upset b/c I thought it would be more rock than pop and it doesn’t feel that way. It just seems strange but it seems like cooks stuff has got less rock/hard as his music career progressed at Axium he seemed his hardest, His stint w/ Mid-West kings he was involved some deep jamming stuff, then Analog heart my favorite of his musical chrysalis still had this cool edge.

    Honestly, I don’t think it was ever realistic to expect RCA to let him release a rock song as his first single. And once we knew it was a Tedder song, we knew it was going to have more of a pop edge. I don’t see this song as a straight up pop song, there are still elements of rock in there. I think it’s an attempt to be *commercial*, so maybe people are using “pop” and “commercial” as synonyms.

    We’ll just have to wait and see if it works. I want the rest of the album NOW but I’m totally thrilled that my appetizer for the next two months is a song I really like. Light On grew on me but it still isn’t a song I listen to much. Come Back to Me, no. I skipped it from day #1 and still do.

    I totally get that peeps want him to rock harder, I do. It’s just not going to happen while he’s on a major label, even if that’s what he wants. Of course, I listen to Analog Heart and… that’s not exactly hard rock… so I’m not sure he ever intends/wants to move into something more “hard.” As for Axium, he was a teenager, right? And I saw lots of “Creed clone!” about that phase. But man, remember being a teenager (assuming you’re not now)? You can get quite an edge to you in those younger days, haha.

    Honestly, I wasn’t expecting much “hard” stuff at all. I thought at this point after all he’s been through the last couple years we’d get some introspective, maybe broody, sometimes hopeful stuff. I think with the single… they tend to be a bit more middle of the road (generic, if you want to call it that, though I don’t really see it so much) than the rest of the record.

    But hey, it’s all ass-talking until June so who knows :)

  • tierbee

    I don’t really see why Cook NEEDS a CHR hit.

    Sure seems like RCA thinks that’s a priority, at least to get some CHR traction. I’d be perfectly happy for him to just make good music, but he belongs to RCA so if they think he needs a CHR song… well, they’re going to get him one.

  • colette

    Wish I liked this more. For me, it’s just too much like waiting-in-the-supermarket-checkout-line music.

  • Buffynut

    gangreen29 says:
    04/18/2011 at 11:50 am
    I don’t really see why Cook NEEDS a CHR hit.

    I always thought, that with a few exceptions, CHR just sells better. And making money is always the bottom line for the labels.

  • songsungblue

    I’m one of those who likes Cook as a person [mostly because he seems brighter than your average bear] but has never been a big fan of his sound. I hope this cut is the unmixed version, since it isn’t a ‘wow’ moment for me. I want to like him though so….hopefully the whole thing will be streamed eventually, and it will sound better.

  • Amanda :)

    On a side note, I think it sorta sucks that everyone on Idol is encouraged to be really unique and different, then they win and are forced to release these very cliché, mainstream pop songs. It’s because Idol is a mainstream show, and you can really tell from the Thursday results show guests, like Rihanna or Black Eyed Peas. And I guess they have to appeal to the same market. DC actually got off sorta easy with Light On, think about poor Lee Dewyze with Sweet Serendipity, or even Kelly Clarkson with My Life Would Suck Without You. Take it from a huge KC fan, that’s definitely not her preferred style either.

    This year my favorite was Paul, and he’s so different that from the beginning I never wanted him to win, I know he and his fans would hate it.

  • ladymadonna

    I actually don’t think Cook “needs” a big CHR hit to ensure success – his last era was extremely successful with three big HAC hits and solid CHR airplay. He gets more recurrent airplay for his singles two years later than a lot of newer artists who have burned up and down the pop charts. He’s proven that he doesn’t need a monster Pop single to move albums, support a tour, or make money, so in my mind there was and is no reason to specifically chase a CHR hit.

    That being said, if you can craft a song that will at least have a chance on that format without straying too far from your musical identity, why not take a stab? I think they’ve very successfully walked the line with this one. Time will tell how it does, but personally I’m very glad that it manages to be radio friendly while still having Cook’s stamp on it vocally, lyrically, and structurally.

  • sr4mjc

    He needs a CHR hit and when he delivers, everyone thinks it’s too “generic”. Well guess what folks, CHR IS GENERIC. If this is what it takes to get Cook to the next level, so be it.

    This is not a CHR song. Not saying it might not get CHR play, but it will be an outlier on the playlist. At least on my CHR station.

    But hey, my station just tweeted they are getting the new Steven Tyler song, so maybe CHR is widening their margin of what they play besides pop diva dance songs and party in da club.

  • sma11ie

    All these years and multiple smashes Kelly still can’t handpick her single choices so no, David sure as heck won’t have that kind of power.

    Yep. Kelly, Avril, they’ve sold millions and millions of records worldwide and they don’t choose their singles. David definitely didn’t pick it. That’s a given. I’m just relieved I like it.

    I don’t really see why Cook NEEDS a CHR hit.

    I don’t really think so either. I was just saying in one of the other recent Cook threads (maybe the snippet one) that I have no idea if CHR would play it, but I’m just sooo happy for him that a lot of the big HAC stations seem pretty poised to embrace his new music, what with all the attention he got on their sites for the Rolling in the Deep cover and the press release on his release date, AI performance, single drop. I personally would love a CHR hit for David (a lot of my friends only listen to CHR, and I’d love the extra exposure for him), but if not, a huge HAC hit is still pretty awesome. I don’t get how a lot of times on this blog (and elsewhere), “this sounds HAC” has become like a put-down or something? It’s kind of weird. Cuz HAC is a HUGE format, and having a big hit there is not a given (see Dewyze, Lee).

    ETA: Actually, strike what I said above and just read everything ladymadonna said, especially this:

    his last era was extremely successful with three big HAC hits and solid CHR airplay. He gets more recurrent airplay for his singles two years later than a lot of newer artists who have burned up and down the pop charts. He’s proven that he doesn’t need a monster Pop single to move albums, support a tour, or make money, so in my mind there was and is no reason to specifically chase a CHR hit.

  • Buffynut

    Despite the Z100 add, a lot of big pop stations in Boston, LA, DC never ever played it. It was just an odd choice of first single for an extremely popular Idol winner at the time, who was poised to be readily embraced by CHR– until they heard LO and their enthusiasm fizzled.

    With what KIIS LA is playing, I can’t think of anything on Cook #1 that they would have played. I doubt they will play this, besides the one time Ryan has Cook on his show to play it. KIIS only plays 20 songs 40 times a day all day long.

  • leome

    I don’t really see why Cook NEEDS a CHR hit.

    I don’t think any musician really needs a hit to keep making music, however, I think a hit does help getting more fans and more sales and all of that means keep making music more often and for a long time. Plus, it helps keeping a label if one wants to keep working with that label.
    David fits on HAC and after that CHR is probably the other “house” where he could belong and it’s a format with a lot of listeners that reaches a big audience. Rock format does not seem a place that wants to play him.
    On a selfish not, a radio hit means it would probably get to be played on my side of the world. And that would mean he’d probably come here and I’d get to see him live, which is something I want a lot.
    So yeah, I’d like him to have that hit. Does that change the way I listen to his music though? Not one bit.

  • Sydia

    I have never claimed to be a music guru…however, something even obvious to me is that Cook seems to follow a certain pattern with his cd’s including AH. Don’t Say a Word…to me very radio friendly, Come Back to Me, Lie…same category. One song with strong(heavy) guitar riffs Let Go, Barbasol. The alt rock songs, Porcelain, Breath Tonight, Mr. Sensitive. Anyway I loved DCTR and I think it is the music he wants to put out there. I can’t wait for TLM. Oh, and I love this new single. Hope, he gets a big hit! He deserves it as well as his fans.

  • BootStar

    Well the “generic” word showed up. Knew it would. Everyone likes to put Cook in a box. He needs a CHR hit and when he delivers, everyone thinks it’s too “generic”. Well guess what folks, CHR IS GENERIC. If this is what it takes to get Cook to the next level, so be it.

    I’ve never put Cook in a box, and I’m somebody who argued he needs something poppier as his next single, but how exactly does this song fit into what’s played on CHR these days? I thought the Claude Kelly collaboration was going to produce something to tick off that specific box. Something with a little soul.

  • lili_anne7

    Lol I wonder if James is going to sit there Thursday listening to David sing this so-not-very-rawk song and start getting skeered in the event he gets too far and actually has to put out music under Iovine. *shudder*

    Yep James, this is the type of music you will have to put out. Not metal, or hard rock, but these poppy “rock” songs. Seriously, I listened to it again, but I’m still indifferent to it. I guess I expected to hear music from David Cook that was more foo fighters then kelly clarkson.

  • IndyMuse

    I fall into the camp that far prefers the full song to the snippet. All the most Cook-like and interesting parts (to me) fall in the parts that were not in the snippet. Love the beginning and the verses in general. Love that the words are so far beyond most of what plays in top 40.

  • sr4mjc

    This is could be very much like Avril’s ‘What the Hell’, which I hate by the way. It’s reminescent of her old sound, but not like the rest of the album. Guess we have to wait and see if this is the case.

  • fadetowhite

    To CHR or not to CHR? It’s an interesting question.

    My impressions – from a totally uninformed pov, so don’t jump on me, because I admit I really don’t know :lol – is that it is the easiest route to success…

    You can sell lots and lots of albums without being typical CHR musicians (see Adele and Mumford) but to do so you need to put out absolutely stonkingly brilliant (or at least very different and striking, strong) music.

    Alternatively, you can have a really strong established fan base in other genres…

    But the most publicity/airplay/attention goes to CHR, because it’s the most ‘current’ and youngest sound.

    As for whether Cook needs CHR – I think it very much depends on how many fans he’s carried with him since DCTR and how many really like his music and are willing to buy it again. If he’s lost a substantial number through natural (AI enhanced) wastage, then he’s going to need something to kickstart his sales again. Whether a HAC hit would be enough, or he really does need that CHR top 10 seller, I really don’t know. But it would be nice :lol

    I always feel divided on this, because normally I don’t worry about all this stuff: I just worry about whether I like the music or not and TLG? I wouldn’t switch it off and I’d enjoy it on the radio, but it (in and of itself) wouldn’t make me buy the album, if I was totally honest. However, I think I’d still buy the album, because I like what he’s done in the past.

    It’s that extra AI inspired fan dedication that makes any of this matter at all – so it’s a weird thing.

  • Trina

    I’m not picky, I’d be perfectly happy with even a moderate HAC hit. After watching airplay for some recent Idol songs I think its safe to say even HAC can be tough. I’m hoping David’s previous track record there will help him there (isn’t the 3 Top 10 hits for a male there kinda rare?) If he can get some CHR, then that’s a bonus. But I’ll taker any airplay. I still think its a miracle LO got as high as it did on pop.

    Oh I doubt they would sign James either UNLESS he made it extremely far like Top 3 or higher. Which is why I’ve been saying I actually hope he goes out around Top 4/5. See with David I think he even likes some fo this pop stuff and isn’t nearly as hardcore as some would think.

  • standtotheright

    I thought the Claude Kelly collaboration was going to produce something to tick off that specific box. Something with a little soul.

    Based on the titles, I think CK saw Cook as his chance to do really snotty pop-punk songs (he then went on to work with Simple Plan, ffs) and Cook saw CK as the chance to get a hit songwriter behind that to make them more marketable. But either RCA wasn’t having it or they didn’t fit with the rest of the tracks that came later. I don’t think he was ever trying to do “pop-soul” with Kelly or anyone else.

    He never said anything about trying to make the album more acoustic, either. It was always about more riffs, more instrumentation, and more tempo changes.

  • tinawina

    This is not a CHR song. Not saying it might not get CHR play, but it will be an outlier on the playlist. At least on my CHR station.

    Yeah, if he “needs” a CHR hit this certainly isn’t guaranteed to be it IMO. But it should do well on HAC and maybe on the handful of HAC-friendly pop stations. So I’m fine with that… to me that means cracking the top 10 at HAC probably peaking somewhere in the lower half of the top 40 on pop if he’s lucky.

    I don’t get how a lot of times on this blog (and elsewhere), “this sounds HAC” has become like a put-down or something? It’s kind of weird. Cuz HAC is a HUGE format, and having a big hit there is not a given (see Dewyze, Lee).

    I think that attitude a remnant of the S7/S8 fanwars. But if you like radio-friendly rock of any type that’s the biggest steady format for it these days. So if he wants a major label career he needs HAC, bottom line…. regular rock radio is not going to play him.

  • sr4mjc

    I guess I expected to hear music from David Cook that was more foo fighters then kelly clarkson.

    I guess I have tempered expectations because a male Kelly type song is exactly what I expected for the first Cookie single. And if I had to guess, Adam’s first single will be Pink-ish. For singles, labels aren’t very risky.

  • Amanda :)

    I don’t really see why Cook NEEDS a CHR hit.

    Honestly, it’s because he’s from Idol. Don’t get me wrong- I love this cheesy show as well, but it’s a very mainstream show. It’s the #1 show on TV, and it appeals to the mainstream market. You can tell from the Thursday result show guest performances, like Black Eyed Peas or Rihanna. No matter what his style is, DC is a mainstream singer in the eyes of the public.

  • leome

    I still think its a miracle LO got as high as it did on pop.

    I still think it was more his name/buzz at the time that got it to top 20. LO just didn’t fit in but it somehow got there lol
    I can imagine this one playing on CHR more than I thought LO would be on TOP 40 at the time.
    I don’t have any expectations though. To be fair I don’t even think it’s a sure HAC hit like some people say. HAC has shown to not be that easy to break (see more recent idol singles and by winners). The positive thing is that his three singles still get good airplay there, and I think that probably counts for something.

  • EdmondWayne

    Funny how it resembles “Summer of 69″ so much.

  • fadetowhite

    Funny how it resembles “Summer of 69? so much.

    I don’t know whether it’s that song, or something else, but it’s certainly echoing something for me and it’s an older song, not a recent one, but I just cannot put my finger on it

  • Brisblondie

    something even obvious to me is that Cook seems to follow a certain pattern with his cd’s including AH. Don’t Say a Word…to me very radio friendly, Come Back to Me, Lie…same category. One song with strong(heavy) guitar riffs Let Go, Barbasol. The alt rock songs, Porcelain, Breath Tonight, Mr. Sensitive.

    ooh, I like this observation a lot! I’ve always been the alt leaning David Cook fan…and Porcelain and Mr. Sensitive are my two favorite songs of his for sure. But, I’m loving the new summery “The Last Goodbye” too! What does that mean?

    I find TLG pretty hooky, and I’m a sucker for a good hook. Plus, the voice!

  • Keel

    I guess I expected to hear music from David Cook that was more foo fighters then kelly clarkson.

    Yeah, but I’m sure someone informed Cook (if he didn’t know it already) that rock stations play FF singles and do not and will never play Cook singles (or Clarkson singles for that matter). Heck, they hardly play Daughtry and he’s sold a gajillion albums and had a slew of hits. So why would RCA bother releasing a single that has no chance of being played in its intended format? Pretty sure they learned their lesson on Barbasol.

    I’m sure that Cook’s new album will have tracks that sound closer to Foo Fighters; I know the last album did — even if it was mostly in the bonus/hidden tracks (thinking of Breathe Tonight and KOTN here).

    In any event, this sounds closer to the type of rock that does get played on HAC at least — Neon Trees and KOL — even if poppier than them.

  • fanaround

    I think he’s going to sound GREAT on Thursday night with this!

  • sfbb

    Bootstar…you and I are on the same page.

    I’m sad today. I had hoped to see a true “progression” with his new music…this is not it. I will hope for (much) better on the rest of the album.

    It is most definitely “pop” genre, not rock. It’s very, very generic…the lyrics were not stunning, but the music/arrangement do nothing to shine them up. Matt Selertic, Ryan Tedder, you suck.

    Say what you will about DC needing a “hit.” This might be a hit at HAC (I don’t see CHR playing this). This is not lasting, impressionable music. The reason his Adele cover got so much press and attention was because the SONG is amazing…and he can interpret great songs very well. But unless he starts to release music that’s at the same caliber, it’s going to be hard for David to have a lasting career. This is not going to do it. Or maybe he’s just trying to make enough money so he can get the heck off RCA and go do his own thing. I can only hope.

    Know this won’t be popular, but I have been a fan…but I’m starting to think I just can’t be on this wagon any more until I see real, substantial music come out of the guy. At this point, I don’t know what kind of artist DC is.

    The difference with 21 year old Adele? She knows exactly who she is. and puts out music that defines her, in the face of commercial crap. And SUCCEEDS. also…Arcade Fire anyone? Risks can pay off. One has to believe in him or herself.

    As Simon would say………it’s only an opinion.

  • sma11ie

    I think its safe to say even HAC can be tough. I’m hoping David’s previous track record there will help him there (isn’t the 3 Top 10 hits for a male there kinda rare?)

    IIRC, according to Billboard, he was only the third solo male artist after John Mayer and Rob Thomas to have three top 10 hits on HAC from the same album.

    Based on the titles, I think CK saw Cook as his chance to do really snotty pop-punk songs (he then went on to work with Simple Plan, ffs) and Cook saw CK as the chance to get a hit songwriter behind that to make them more marketable. But either RCA wasn’t having it or they didn’t fit with the rest of the tracks that came later. I don’t think he was ever trying to do “pop-soul” with Kelly or anyone else.

    Pop-punk or pop-soul, either way, I would’ve really liked to hear the Claude Kelly collabs! I was so intrigued!

    Funny how it resembles “Summer of 69? so much.

    LOL, really? How many songs have we listed now?

    SUBG
    Use Somebody
    No Surprise
    Summer of 69
    What the Hell

    What did I miss?

    I’ll add another one (not tempo but some bits): Already Gone

  • Willis

    I love it! I wonder if this song could make an impact on top 40. Part of me says No, but Daughtry’s September did really well on all formats and this song is very similar. *fingers crossed*

    Kind of has a Use Somebody feel in the background. Maybe KOL are on backup ;)

  • larc

    Brisblondie says:
    I find TLG pretty hooky, and I’m a sucker for a good hook. Plus, the voice!

    I’m just not hearing a very strong hook. Maybe I need to listen to it more.

  • fadetowhite

    Know this won’t be popular, but I have been a fan…but I’m starting to think I just can’t be on this wagon any more until I see real, substantial music come out of the guy. At this point, I don’t know what kind of artist DC is.

    The difference with 21 year old Adele? She knows exactly who she is. and puts out music that defines her, in the face of commercial crap. And SUCCEEDS. also…Arcade Fire anyone? Risks can pay off. One has to believe in him or herself.

    As Simon would say………it’s only an opinion.

    I know exactly what you’re saying – and said pretty much the same thing after hearing the snippet for the first time.

    And as I said then as well, I would love to listen to a Cook single and just have that ‘Oh yeah’ feeling: the feeling I get off Rolling In The Deep (whoever is singing it – it’s a great song!).

    I guess I’ve turned it around in my own mind for 3 reasons: 1) I still love listening to Cook’s music – the pre-Idol stuff and much (not all) of DCTR. That’s genuine and not Idol fan hangover – it wouldn’t have lasted for this long if it were; 2) I’m not sure how free he is within his relationship with his record company to take big risks. Adele came from a very different direction – she was a higly respected song writer and vocalist way before this second album and 3) I’m still prepared to see what the album brings. This single is not in itself delivering what Cook has been talking about in interviews, so I have to believe it’s there in the album instead – as indeed it was in some parts of DCTR against the chosen singles.

    If it isn’t there – if the album continues in the same vein as the single and if that is the way that Cook sees his music developing, then it won’t be for me, at some point down the line. And that’s not an angry, or a judgemental or a dismissive statement – it’s just an acknowledgement that not all music is for everyone.

  • Brisblondie

    SUBG
    Use Somebody
    No Surprise
    Summer of 69
    What the Hell

    hmmm I don’t hear any of this. At least not so far.

    The difference with 21 year old Adele? She knows exactly who she is. and puts out music that defines her, in the face of commercial crap. And SUCCEEDS. also…Arcade Fire anyone? Risks can pay off. One has to believe in him or herself.

    I get this sentiment. I really do. I LOVE ARCADE FIRE! (And Adele too) and I also love that they are both breaking some barriers with their art and vision. But…neither of them were on the double edged sword, that is American Idol. Commercial success goals and certain radio format snobbery is real for an Idol alum of David’s caliber and genre. Plus…David’s versatility and artitstic treatment of songs on Idol garnered him rave reviews, a win, and a myriad of different kinds of fans. There is no way he can please everyone of these different expectations from a run like that on Idol. There are some real thorny thorns on his “rose” of being such a popular winner.

    That said, I do think this song has a good chance to gather new fans from radio play.

  • Mary102

    Yeah, I heard this last night – and it reminded me of Light On – which is to say, not bad, not brilliant, just sorta non-descript and harmless. I can see it doing ok on HAC, though.

    The difference between a song like this and a song like, say LLWD, which was a big hit and had cross-over appeal to pop, though, is that LLWD had a very hooky chorus. This one – not so much.

  • sma11ie

    hmmm I don’t hear any of this. At least not so far.

    I heard some, but actually, I didn’t hear any similarities with most of the list either, I was just collecting them based on the comments here because I found the weird mix of music on list to be amusing when viewed together.

  • Mary102

    If we’re talking about taking risks, etc. I think David (and Kris and Lee too) all fall into a genre that is very pedestrian, yet quite successful on radio. There is nothing particularly groundbreaking about HAC rock, and much of that “safe” sound has done very well for a lot of groups.

    As such, it makes sense, given David’s musical style, to fit in that box and reap the rewards of producing “safe” HAC rock music. Being more inventive or outside of the box, particularly with music the way it is now, would be counter-productive to that genre, as well as to what a lot of people would view as David’s style (based on his AI run and post-AI style).

    JMO.

  • Brisblondie

    I was just collecting them based on the comments here because I found the weird mix of music on list to be amusing when viewed together.

    yes, I find it amusing too. Very different and all good songs for the most part, imo!

    Those not hearing the hook… well to each his own! ;)
    “the miles apart” part and whatever follows it (don’t know all the lyrics at this point) is what I hear as hooky. :)

    Anyhoo… how long til I get to hear this on the radio, because want -want– wantiness is setting in. :)

  • tierbee

    Or maybe he’s just trying to make enough money so he can get the heck off RCA and go do his own thing. I can only hope.

    I really, really doubt that David would ever do that. He doesn’t strike me as a half ass kind of guy. I’m sure he had to make a concession on a “poppier” single, but so is your life when you have sold your soul to not only a major label but Idol.

    But…neither of them were on the double edged sword, that is American Idol. Commercial success goals and certain radio format snobbery is real for an Idol alum of David’s caliber and genre.

    Yeah, that. Rock radio will absolutely NOT play him. So putting out a Foo Fighters-esque song would make absolutely no sense from a “we want to make money on you” position for the label.

    I think it’s way too soon to commit Dave-icide before listening to the album but then again, I like the song so I probably don’t understand :)

  • tierbee

    Being more inventive or outside of the box, particularly with music the way it is now, would be counter-productive to that genre, as well as to what a lot of people would view as David’s style (based on his AI run and post-AI style).

    Well, yeah, and I think a lot of that really does go along with Idol/RCA. He doesn’t strike me as a guy who would be totally risk-averse, you know? But he is NOT in control of these things. I’d love to hear what he’d do if he could do whatever he wants, but that’s not realistic.

  • aakash988
  • tierbee

    The difference with 21 year old Adele? She knows exactly who she is. and puts out music that defines her, in the face of commercial crap. And SUCCEEDS. also…Arcade Fire anyone? Risks can pay off. One has to believe in him or herself.

    Totally get that. But they aren’t in the same boat. He has not only label control to contend with but the whole AI winner thing. And really, how many Adele’s and Arcade Fire’s are out there? That’s a little bit of a beyond lofty goal :)

  • tierbee

    Honestly, though, it’s cool to not like his music. I think if you’re on album #2 and still don’t like his stuff… you probably just aren’t going to :(

  • tierbee

    Eee, I had a post ho attack. I couldn’t get online for a while so it was just all stored up I guess. Haha. Sorry! I don’t like posting from my phone, it makes me stabby trying to spell things right.

  • shenanigan

    Personally, my feeling upon hearing the whole song was delight. It has a retro feel, a summery feel, and I love how I can actually hear all the little nuances of David’s voice that invest the simplest songs with meaning. I also love how it wasn’t so sad and mournful. On DCTR, almost every song had such a strong undercurrent of pain, even Declaration and Heroes. I can see this appealing to young people who have broken up after the school year and are moving on. It is a little bit “it’s not you, it’s me!” and I like that. Someone on twitter said this is what you say when you want to be with other people, but don’t want the ex to slam you. lol

    The singer of the song is not so passive as in CBTM. I think David is aware of that song’s sort of wussy feel and I love his tweet about a massive lyric improvement: “When you get over you, get back to me.” “The Last Goodbye” is not a cringy song.

    As for it not being as amazing as “Rolling in the Deep”, well, yes, but I know we will see amazing things in concert when he gets through changing up all of this music. And to see him in concert, he has to be a success or he won’t get a tour. He is under contract to RCA, working for them, for four more years, at least, if they choose to keep him, and as someone who wants to see him live, I say he has to do what he has to do. And I like it. It is fun, much lighter, catchy, does not rip my heart apart as I know he can and will with other songs. Sometimes it is nice to just enjoy. When I hear this song, I think, “what a nice guy, he breaks up very kindly”. I would bet there was a lot more to the story, but I’ll just enjoy liking him and this song for now!

  • musicality

    I don’t like it

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Huh. Isn’t David Cook one of those Idol contestants that showed who they were as artists during the show? I mean, didn’t all that crap about “showing who you are as an artist” start during season 7?

    Anyways, I think this single is pretty close to what I expected from Cook. That’s who he is as an artist, only the production is a little poppier. I just wish lyrics were a little less generic.

  • fadetowhite

    I don’t know – I’m really flip-flopping here.

    I listened to the You-tube copy just posted again and I do like this song: I do.

    It’s not in my normal wheelhouse; it’s not a classic or a stand-out; it’s not ‘Rolling In the Deep’ and I still wouldn’t want the whole album to sound like this or be on this level…

    But I do like the song.

    Maybe I should just stop reading this thread :lol

  • leome

    Huh. Isn’t David Cook one of those Idol contestants that showed who he was as an artist during the show? I mean, didn’t all that crap about showing who you are as an artist start during season 7?

    I don’t think the problem is who he is, but what people want him to be and what they like. He has been the same since idol and I’m gonna say since pre idol cause we know of Analog Heart. Same style, same genre, same way of singing songs. It’s who he is. He knows it. And he has shown it. Now, if people like it or not, that’s with them.
    Knowing who you are has nothing to do with putting music that is innovative. Actually, I suppose the concept of “knowing who you are” is a bit subjective.

    But I do like the song.

    And isn’t that all that matters? I can love “Love Actually” even though I don’t think it can compare to “The Shawshank Redemption”. But I enjoy both, and that’s all that counts.
    I don’t think TLG is OMG GROUNDBREAKING!!! but I enjoy listening to it, I want to listen to it. And that’s one of the reasons music exist. Not into the whole rationalizing thing, me.

  • sma11ie

    I think David (and Kris and Lee too) all fall into a genre that is very pedestrian, yet quite successful on radio. There is nothing particularly groundbreaking about HAC rock, and much of that “safe” sound has done very well for a lot of groups.

    I think a lot of artists dying to get HAC radioplay would be shocked to find it’s as easy as producing “safe and pedestrian” music to be successful on HAC. I’m not saying there isn’t a lot of “safe” music on HAC, heck much of which I don’t like, I’m just saying it takes more than making safe, pedestrian music to climb the HAC charts– I don’t think there’s an easy formula to radio success on any format, and songs, no matter how safe or generic they sound, still have to connect on some level with its audience to do well, and that part can’t be predicted. I will bring back my earlier comment because it’s a relevant response to this new comment:

    I don’t get how a lot of times on this blog (and elsewhere), “this sounds HAC” has become like a put-down or something? It’s kind of weird. Cuz HAC is a HUGE format, and having a big hit there is not a given (see Dewyze, Lee).

  • gferna

    musicality says:
    04/18/2011 at 1:29 pm
    I don’t like it

    HA-HA-HA.

  • lili_anne7

    I really, really doubt that David would ever do that. He doesn’t strike me as a half ass kind of guy. I’m sure he had to make a concession on a “poppier” single, but so is your life when you have sold your soul to not only a major label but Idol.

    But why would he not fight to try to put out more substantial music. I mean look at Crystal, she kicked and screamed, and finally got what she wanted. Granted her single didn’t exactly go up the radio charts, but she has the respect of critics, and her album is still selling. So is it more important for David to have a radio hit or to put out good music. I would think that on his second album, he would try to put out more creative/original music.

  • tinawina

    It’s not in my normal wheelhouse; it’s not a classic or a stand-out; it’s not ‘Rolling In the Deep’ and I still wouldn’t want the whole album to sound like this or be on the level…

    But I do like the song.

    Maybe I should just stop reading this thread :lol

    Yeah, I know how you feel.

    I heard it and I like it, and now I feel almost like I should apologize for liking it. :D

    At first I was just like “Oh cool! Cute song and I won’t have to grit my teeth while tracking it and/or drop Cook altogether”. I thought this could do about as well as LO but I’ll have more fun with it.

    But now I’m kinda doubting myself. Did the fan goggles I didn’t have when I heard Light On (or I Did It For You, or Mr Sensitive, or Cavallo Overproduction, etc) miraculously appear now? Maybe I secretly hate it?

    Clearly I need to stop reading this today. I am freaking myself out! Too many voices in my head. I am weak. LOL

  • sma11ie

    musicality says:
    04/18/2011 at 1:29 pm
    I don’t like it

    His career is over. He will only be playing county fairs or charity pet shows now ;). Although, if he kicks ass in those shows, I’ll still be a fan :).

  • girlygirl

    This sounds like it would have fit in easily on his last album. David sounds great as always, but I was hoping for something a little more original. I don’t know if it has enough of a hook for CHR, but I think it’ll do fine on Hot AC and likely will at least crossover to Pop radio, anyway.

    Don’t hate it, don’t love it. Hopefully it’ll grow on me as I hear it more.

  • shenanigan

    I guess that is the downside of being “versatile vocally”. Everyone thinks they know who the real David Cook is and what his music should sound like. He just cannot please everyone.

    Even though the lyrics are serious, it is not as serious a song.

    I like it.

  • leome

    but she has the respect of critics, and her album is still selling.

    So does David and he sells even more.

  • tierbee

    But why would he not fight to try to put out more substantial music. I mean look at Crystal, she kicked and screamed, and finally got what she wanted.

    Crystal didn’t win Idol. Period. And that’s a major apples to oranges comparison there, their music isn’t anything alike. I don’t think RCA was going to be ok with the album sales that Crystal has and zero radio presence. (Let me add the disclaimer: I love Crystal. But she would be the last person I’d use to compare.)

    And this is entirely YMMV because I love MANY of the songs on Cook’s first record, so while you might not like it that’s not a unanimous opinion, you know? It might just be that you aren’t going to like his music, maybe he isn’t who you thought he was. And that’s perfectly ok!

    He HAS fought for his identity as a musician, there’s a quote in interviews from John Rzeznik I think that said that he is fighting for his identity as a musician.

  • Pam

    I’ve enjoyed reading all of the responses positive and negative and I understand both POV’s.

    In some ways, I like the 30-second snippet better than the whole song. I didn’t think that would happen (lol) but I think it has some good HAC potential too. To me it’s catchy and I don’t think that’s a bad thing. I agree with those who are saying that he needed a song like this right out the gate to see if he could pick up a new audience.

    I think the first true test will be the idol stage to see how it goes over the viewing audience. This is of course more important than DYFAM was since this one is actually being sent to radio.

    I’m crossing my fingers that this one can be a big HAC hit at the very least. btw, I wasn’t thrilled one bit about CBTM being released as a single. For me, that was a very sad day to say the least. Today I can say at least that I’m not angry with RCA for once and I hope the stations who embraced David in the beginning will be ready and willing to do so with this one.

    *Crossing fingers* :)

    It is starting to grow on me a bit with each listen though. I do hear the “Use Somebody” vibe here as well.

    Oh as far as Peekaboo goes, I’m not worried a bit about him being able to keep up with this. If he can do this and this then he’s good to go. Thought you guys might have missed seeing the light show. :)

  • fadetowhite

    I mean look at Crystal, she kicked and screamed, and finally got what she wanted. Granted her single didn’t exactly go up the radio charts, but she has the respect of critics, and her album is still selling. So is it more important for David to have a radio hit or to put out good music. I would think that on his second album, he would try to put out more creative/original music.

    But, you know – that’s your opinion. My opinion would be that, singles aside, there was plenty of creativity/originality on DCTR1: not the perfect album, but certainly not the generic Daughtry/Nicklebackesque parody that people who don’t like his stuff tend to hear – but my opinion is just an opinion too.

    This song I think is designed to be a hybrid between Cook’s sound and what sell/plays on the radio. I don’t see him as being any different to the vast majority of acts out there. And part of the difference between what the record company is prepared to allow for first singles between Cook and Crystal (who I love) may well be about different sales expectations and marketing strategies.

  • ladymadonna

    His career is over. He will only be playing county fairs or charity pet shows now .

    County fairs? Dare to dream. It’s clear he’s relegated to the “supper club” circuit after this major misstep.

  • tierbee

    Clearly I need to stop reading this today. I am freaking myself out! Too many voices in my head. I am weak. LOL

    Want a drink?

    I’m not really buying the “this-is-not-who-he-is-how-could-he” meme myself. It’s a pop-leaning song in hopes of getting radio traction, they brought Tedder in for that reason. I’m willing to bet the rest of the record (or most of it) is NOT pop-leaning. If it is, then maybe I’ll drink the rest of my bunker wine stash and pass out until record #3. I like this song, a lot, but I want some of my wordy angsty Cook too :)

  • tierbee

    It’s clear he’s relegated to the “supper club” circuit after this major misstep.

    OMG, you almost owed me a computer. Only by strong sense of will did I contain the water geyser that tried to shoot out of my nose…

  • sr4mjc

    But why would he not fight to try to put out more substantial music. I mean look at Crystal, she kicked and screamed, and finally got what she wanted. Granted her single didn’t exactly go up the radio charts, but she has the respect of critics, and her album is still selling. So is it more important for David to have a radio hit or to put out good music. I would think that on his second album, he would try to put out more creative/original music.

    Who’s to say he didn’t fight and chose not to air his dirty laundry in public like Crystal? For all of Crystal’s fighting, she got mixed reviews and fell off the Top 200 after 15 weeks. I’m not sure she won the war she fought if Jive drops her for low sales and no radio future.

    By all interviews so far, Cookie sounds happy with his album. And singles are usually not best tracks, but usually least common denominator songs that fit in playlists.

    I expect the same from Kelly’s new release too. And she fights :)

  • Keel

    I heard it and I like it, and now I feel almost like I should apologize for liking it.

    I know, right? LOL
    My opinion would be that, singles aside, there was plenty of

    creativity/originality on DCTR1: not the perfect album, but certainly not the generic Daughtry/Nicklebackesque parody that people who don’t like his stuff tend to hear – but my opinion is just an opinion too.

    ^^This. And there are even those within the Cook fandom who didn’t like DCTR1 and also ask why he didn’t fight more for his vision, whereas I, who actually enjoyed DCTR1 quite a bit, wonder what they were expecting from Cook in the first place. I mean, I think he’s a wonderfully creative guy with real talent as a songwriter, but Analog Heart was not breaking down any walls musically nor did they have some hard edge to them that wasn’t matched by some of the songs on DCTR1, so with DCTR1 I felt like a got exactly what I expected — with just a tiny bit of radio-ready sheen on the songs. But as you said, it’s only my opinion as to what I was expecting from Cook after his Idol run. Fortunately, what he did last time worked very, very well for me. ;-)

  • standtotheright

    Granted her single didn’t exactly go up the radio charts, but she has the respect of critics, and her album is still selling

    I like FD and it was a reasonably well-received album, but I’m not sure she even cracked #40 at AAA when they directly targeted that format and she’s off the BB 200 now, so one can’t say the market fully embraced her vision. I can guarantee you that RCA did not set out for Cook to max out at 200K copies. They wanted HAC and at least some token CHR spins.

    If Alt had embraced LO (which, like it or not, was arguably a better song than most of the stuff Cornell has done post Soundgarden, some of which did get airplay) or BBS maybe the playbook would be different and they’d be trying a lead single there. But it didn’t and they ain’t.

  • sma11ie

    He HAS fought for his identity as a musician, there’s a quote in interviews from John Rzeznik I think that said that he is fighting for his identity as a musician.

    There’s actually a ton of circumstantial evidence he’s fought with RCA pretty consistently from the last album to this album. Who knows how many battles he’s won or lost. It’s just a testament to his good manners and (overly?) diplomatic nature that you’ll never hear about them directly from him, or those closest to him who’ve been warned, lol. I’m a big fan of a lot of artists who publicly talk about their fights with the label, but for better or worse, David is not one of those artists.

    Anyway, I’m officially post-ho’ing this thread. I know it’s bad when I’ve started quoting myself! Gonna stop refreshing every few minutes and take a break ;). Maybe I’ll go listen to TLG again!

    ETA: one last thing- LMAO ladymadonna. I’m first in line for a supper-circuit show! Sounds fun!

    ETA2 (and then a break!):

    Today I can say at least that I’m not angry with RCA for once

    I found something to be angry about. The damn leak! Why wasn’t there an official splashy online stream on AOL or something? WTF is up with the stupid leak?!

  • tierbee

    I don’t think the problem is who he is, but what people want him to be and what they like. He has been the same since idol and I’m gonna say since pre idol cause we know of Analog Heart. Same style, same genre, same way of singing songs. It’s who he is. He knows it. And he has shown it. Now, if people like it or not, that’s with them.

    Was just talking to someone about this earlier. I think there’s some discord between who he is and who people want him to be. And he is very versatile vocally so maybe he has kept people hanging on and hoping but… I don’t see his post-Idol stuff as so far from his pre-Idol stuff that there’s jarring discord. It all lives happily on my iPod together, anyway :) The only thing that was funny to me was that in his Axium days he was all about the lower register and then it went away for a while and I swear I’m hearing it more in his newer stuff. Or am I wishful thinking ’cause I LOVE his lower register? (Wait, that sounded pervy?)

  • tierbee

    I can guarantee you that RCA did not set out for Cook to max out at 200K copies. They wanted HAC and at least some token CHR spins.

    Ha, we don’t know much, but this I feel pretty secure in saying… truth.

    There’s actually a ton of circumstantial evidence he’s fought with RCA pretty consistently from the last album to this album.

    Yes, have seen little whispers here and there many times that one of the delays is that he’s been fighting for what he wants. But he’d never, never say it. Cook is a diplomat, for better or worse, and there is also the Cook Cone of Silence. Plus he’s a classy dude, not wont to air his dirty laundry over Twitter especially, which I swear he still hates but only grudgingly updates now and then…

  • http://twitter.com/maxsmom61 CathyMK

    Everything I would say has already been said many times, so I’ll just say that ITA with what Cheese said this AM!

    cheese says:
    04/18/2011 at 9:22 am

    Hey, I finally listened and I’m not making the stink face that I made the first time I heard “Light On.”

    This is sort of how I always expected a post-Idol David Cook single to sound, so I’m just getting it 3 years late. So yeah, I will like it unless it tanks, and then I will hate it and start whining about RCA.

  • pattycake

    I still am waiting for Thursday. Amazed at Cook and Crystal career comparsions. Certainly, higher sales expectations for Cook and I never seen his “brand” as coffee house music like Crystal’s .
    Regardless of how poppy, bouncey, it may be I am sure to like better then the Katy Perry performance that night. I loathe ET! Please someone tell me it doesn’t resemble ET??!!

  • lili_anne7

    It might just be that you aren’t going to like his music, maybe he isn’t who you thought he was. And that’s perfectly ok!

    I never said I did not like David’s music. I liked his first album, it was what I expected for his debut album. I just think that at this stage, he should show more progression and originality. I used Crystal as an example of someone who fought to put out music she believed in. I understand that David has higher sales expectations, but I still think that with 2 years to work on his album, he could have come up with something better as a first single.

  • Niall

    This is a good first single. I was one of the few people who liked “Light On” upon first listen and I think it ended up being a great first single to propel album sales but it grew on radio slowly. With any luck, a “poppier” first single will take root faster.

    David Cook is a mainstream pop/rock artist, not a niche artist like Crystal who had to fight in order to prevent Jive from trying to make her a pop artist. I’m not sure what people were expecting that has caused disappointment. The individual song might or might not be someone’s cup of tea but the overall sound of “The Last Goodbye” is exactly what he needs right now.

  • tinawina

    Aww, I love Crystal’s album. I don’t think the two are comparable at all. She’ll find success in her own way, as will Cookie.

    Anyway, I think this always happens with Idols because they win that initial group fans over on promise, not product. There is always a segment of any fandom that tolerates flaws on the first record in expectation that things will be better on the second record. But everybody has different definitions of “better”, so its natural that there will always be disappointed people no matter what. Nobody should feel bad about that to me, it is what it is. And it happens to all of the Idols to some degree. :(

    Anyway, we’ll see what the album brings. I still like this song though, but then again I liked Declaration and this is in the same pop/rock upbeat vein. I’m happy to track this and see what happens from here.

  • tierbee

    I understand that David has higher sales expectations, but I still think that with 2 years to work on his album, he could have come up with something better as a first single.

    Yeah, but you’re assuming that he chose this single – and I’m pretty sure he did not. One rumor floating around for some time was that a big part of the delay was a disagreement over the first single. I don’t know, but this was probably a compromise. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t like the song – I think it’s cool, and I bet it’ll be great live. But there’s just no way he got to pick which song would be his single.

    I’m not sure what people were expecting that has caused disappointment.

    Two years was a long time to have a vision in your head, I guess. Though I said earlier, it was honestly a bit delusional to think he was going to release a rock song for his first single. Just was NOT going to happen.

  • tierbee

    Aww, I love Crystal’s album. I don’t think the two are comparable at all.

    I love it, too. Just seemed to me an odd choice for someone to compare him to, they are in completely different places career and music-wise. I have room in my heart for both haha but I wouldn’t draw much by way of comparisons :)

  • Trina

    Crystal may have kicked and screamed to get what she wanted but what did she get out of it? Not much airplay or a push from Jive. Respect? Something tells me RCA cares a hell of a lot more about making money than critical acclaim. Her album just fell out of the BB200. Not exactly selling a lot, because she has no airplay. David’s album stayed on the chart 40+ weeks even without massive critical acclaim. He’s a totally different type of artist anyway.

  • fadetowhite

    I used Crystal as an example of someone who fought to put out music she believed in. I understand that David has higher sales expectations, but I still think that with 2 years to work on his album, he could have come up with something better as a first single.

    But as others have said, we don’t – and in all likelihood never will – know what Cook really thinks about this single or any other compromises he had to make on this or the previous album or whether he had to make any at all.

    The man is a wall of silence.

    So far as singles are concerned, as others have said, there are plenty of examples of artists (Ai and non-AI) who have had to accept singles that they themselves wouldn’t necessarily want in order to a) make the record company happy and b) have a chance of chart success.

    If that is the case – and we don’t know, because Cook himself could have been more than happy to go for that hybrid in order to gain a wider foothold, his commerce vs art instincts may well be in play here too – and the payoff is more room to breathe on the album: then OK.

    Definitely, I kind of wish that he’d be more vocal and open about all of this, but he isn’t and I suspect won’t be, so I guess as fans you either have to put up with that or move on.

    But certainly, when you’re talking about shooting for major sales numbers (and I’d have to believe that RCA are) then it becomes a very different situation to someone who is being sold primarly to AAA (and not hitting there) and has a very niche and limited market.

  • OmahaCookie

    I caved. I listened. I loved it.

  • ross

    I can’t listen to it now, just want to say I hope it’s a huge hit.

  • Listening

    Hmmm I’ve been thinking maybe WE don’t know what David Cook is maybe he used to be a harder rock but now actually wants to be pop rock and it has absolutely nothing to do w/ being on a major label. His first major label album I liked it was pop/rock but it was good. I found I liked him singing the songs live better though which was interesting, so he ramps everything up when he has the atmosphere of a crowd or everything is so perfect in a studio it actually loses it’s luster whatever.

    Anyway I feel I’ll get a clearer barometer of what David cook wants to be pop/rock or a little harder rock definitely w/ a 3rd album. I believe he still might feel pressure to lean more towards pop/rock to ensure he doesn’t have a major slump in sales but by a 3rd album he wont care, it will be pure David Cook whatever it is is what he wants to be. But in regards to This Loud Morning a true gleaning of what David truly wants to sound like would be Goodbye to the Girl. Goodbye to the Girl is a song he was set free on, this is a song he wrote w/ his friends Neal and Andy the people who know him best. They’ll be the ones who’d say what do you want to do David and actually listen to him and not pressure or coax him any kind of way. Therefor i’m thinking if that song is pop/rock then you know what maybe David is really pop/rock now.

    But you know what regardless to however many pop/rock songs David has on his record I want them to be catchy. I don’t feel like The Last Goodbye is catchy.

    Oh one more thing I want to make clear I like pop/rock i’m not knocking it it’s just that I didn’t think David Cook was pop/rock. I was expecting a harder rock which I like too so I have to adjust my mind frame when thinking about his music. I have to wrap my mind around the idea David Cook has a pop/rock style.
    Now i’m going to listen to The Last Goodbye again to see if I can get into it.

  • sma11ie

    But there’s just no way he got to pick which song would be his single.

    I lied, I’m still here. I totally agree. I actually like this single, but even back on DCTR, David’s intimated that he has little to no say over choosing singles. He said he would worry about putting a record together, and that he’d let the label worry about choosing the singles. It seemed like the typical Cook way of putting something nicely that he has no control over. If you can’t control it, laugh like hell. I’ve gotten the sense that he worked really hard to realize his vision for this record, and I’m fairly hopeful, from what I’ve gathered, that it’s close enough to what he wanted that he can be fairly proud of it. We’ll see on June 28th. What I mean is, speaking as someone who actually likes TLG, I never expected the first single to be the perfect embodiment of David’s progression and growth as an artist. Like I said earlier (here I go restating myself again—this is what happens when you park yourself in a thread unable to leave!), Avril Lavigne and Kelly Clarkson have sold over 30 million and 20 million records worldwide, respectively, and THEY don’t get to choose their singles. Why do people think David got to choose his?? As has been stated several times here (heh), David Cook is not the Foo Fighters. He doesn’t get to choose his singles…

    Anyway I feel I’ll get a clearer barometer of what David cook wants to be pop/rock or a little harder rock definitely w/ a 3rd album.

    Personally, I feel like I’ll get a clearer barometer when I hear the second album– the remaining ~90 percent of it, anyway ;)

  • BootStar

    He never said anything about trying to make the album more acoustic, either. It was always about more riffs, more instrumentation, and more tempo changes.

    I thought he said something about piano-based music. It’s not like I expected a ukulele album a la Eddie Vedder, but I inferred (probably more like deluded myself into believing) that the material would be more pared down, since he was going to try to get away from that “wall of sound” thing that Cavallo did with record no. 1.

    Say what you will about DC needing a “hit.” This might be a hit at HAC (I don’t see CHR playing this). This is not lasting, impressionable music. The reason his Adele cover got so much press and attention was because the SONG is amazing…and he can interpret great songs very well. But unless he starts to release music that’s at the same caliber, it’s going to be hard for David to have a lasting career. This is not going to do it. Or maybe he’s just trying to make enough money so he can get the heck off RCA and go do his own thing. I can only hope …The difference with 21 year old Adele? She knows exactly who she is. and puts out music that defines her, in the face of commercial crap. And SUCCEEDS. also…Arcade Fire anyone? Risks can pay off. One has to believe in him or herself.

    So much word to this. All of it.

    Look, I liked David’s first album. There were a few songs I LOVED, but after waiting for two years, I expected something that would surprise me a little. There’s nothing surprising here at all. In fact, it sounds like it would have fit right in with the stuff on the last album, along with the other songs I skipped when I still listened to it.

    I guess I have tempered expectations because a male Kelly type song is exactly what I expected for the first Cookie single.

    That’s what I was hoping for too. Because Cook’s spin on a Kelly song could be magical. It’s the WTFedness that’s missing for me. This song ^^^^? So NOT a WTFer, not by my definition anyway. The lyrics aren’t THAT clever.

    As such, it makes sense, given David’s musical style, to fit in that box and reap the rewards of producing “safe” HAC rock music. Being more inventive or outside of the box, particularly with music the way it is now, would be counter-productive to that genre, as well as to what a lot of people would view as David’s style (based on his AI run and post-AI style).

    Excellent, if truly depressing, points! :-D

  • tierbee

    I actually like this single, but even back on DCTR, David’s intimated that he has little to no say over choosing singles. He said he would worry about putting a record together, and that he’d let the label worry about choosing the singles. It seemed like the typical Cook way of putting something nicely that he has no control over.

    Heh, Cookie diplomat speak :) While it can be maddening… I love him for it, too.

  • lili_anne7

    David’s album stayed on the chart 40+ weeks even without massive critical acclaim. He’s a totally different type of artist anyway

    David’s album stayed on the charts because he had a HUGE fan base and people loved him, not because he put out ground breaking music. For this album he won’t have that fan base to rely on, so his sales will depend more on how good the material he puts out is. I was not comparing Crystal and David, I was just pointing out that Crystal fought to put out the kind of music she wanted, that’s it.

  • Pam

    Ed’s response at DCO about the leak HERE. It’s near the top of the page. The post is new so Lisa hasn’t had a chance to create a separate link for it yet.

  • tierbee

    Look, I liked David’s first album. There were a few songs I LOVED, but after waiting for two years, I expected something that would suprise me a little. There’s nothing surprising here at all.

    You’ve only heard one song, though! I’m not quite ready to write this off as DCTRClone without hearing any song other than the lead single. I don’t think Light On sounds like anything on the first album. So wouldn’t be surprised if this is a similar situation.

    I thought he said something about piano-based music.

    He did. And it may or may not have been ok’d by the label. His vision and the label’s vision have to intersect somewhere. Who knows what compromises were there to make that happen. But again, we didn’t even hear it yet :)

  • tierbee

    I was not comparing Crystal and David, I was just pointing out that Crystal fought to put out the kind of music she wanted, that’s it.

    Right, but my question is how do you know David *didn’t* fight to put out the music he wanted?

  • 123abc456

    I love this single and I find it more Rock than pop. It is commericial but he is not trying to be Brittney. The more I listen the more rock it sounds. I think David hit the right note with this single and I am hoping that radio will play it. I think the album will have many different types of songs. BTW the lyrics are not generic, the tempo is upbeat and I have not heard a song quite like it before.

  • sma11ie

    From RCAEd:

    David did not leak it. In fact, he’s sorta bummed because it’s not even the final mix he approved for the album

    Aww. I’m actually not older than David, lol, so maybe it’s the Idol show obvestment, but sometimes I find myself protective of him, so to hear he’s “bummed” about the leak makes me all :( for him!

    That said, yay, there’s a better mix! Heh.

  • lili_anne7

    Yeah, but you’re assuming that he chose this single – and I’m pretty sure he did not. One rumor floating around for some time was that a big part of the delay was a disagreement over the first single. I don’t know, but this was probably a compromise.

    Ok, I hope you are right and this is just a compromise.

  • nigerdelta

    Does not sound like Tedder at all. David must have written most of it. it’s not bad but after such a long absence, I wanted him to come back with something stronger. hopefully it does well for him.

    on a side note, I get nervous when idols write their own music cos i am yet to see one that wrote a hit. I may be wrong but Lee, Kris, Crystal , Jason, Archuleta #2 etc all wrote/ co wrote all or most of the songs on their albums and the songs went no where.

    so I ask why is it so important in the idol bubble for them to write their own songs when it’s never going to be a hit or even get released as a single.

  • lili_anne7

    Right, but my question is how do you know David *didn’t* fight to put out the music he wanted?

    Again, you are right. Maybe he did fight, and it just didn't work out. I truly hope that was the case.

  • Zastine4974

    Well guess what folks? RCAed has said this is not the final version of the song so you will get to dissect it again tomorrow.

  • tierbee

    I’m actually not older than David, lol, so maybe it’s the Idol show obvestment, but sometimes I find myself protective of him, so to hear he’s “bummed” about the leak makes me all for him!

    Heh, I do it too. I’m older than him, though not old enough to be his mommy :) Can’t help it.

  • shenanigan

    Oh noes! So we have been minutely slicing and dicing and analyzing a song that is not the final mix? Arrrrrgh!

  • Pam

    Ok peeps here is the link to Ed’s newest post.

  • fadetowhite

    David’s album stayed on the charts because he had a HUGE fan base

    Well, I’d disagree with this…

    I think his album had a large first few weeks sales, because he had a huge fanbase coming off AI. I think it stayed in the charts and continued to sell, because people liked the music.

    Yes, hard though it may be for people who don’t like his music to comprehend, there are people out there who genuinely do and who don’t think that it is all generic, or Daughtryesque or Nicklebackesque or anythingelse esque and sounds exactly the same as every single other song on HAC (whatever that means).

    I mean, it’s fine if you do, but it just doesn’t mean that everyone else has to think the same way, if you know what I mean. And it doesn’t mean that you’re right and they’re wrong, or that they’re right and you’re wrong…

  • 123abc456

    Apparently that is not the last cut of the song that has been approved for the record. According to RCA ED on DCO. So we have to wait until tonigh to get the official version.

  • BootStar

    You’ve only heard one song, though! I’m not quite ready to write this off as DCTRClone without hearing any song other than the lead single. I don’t think Light On sounds like anything on the first album. So wouldn’t be surprised if this is a similar situation.

    I realize that, but it’s been a looooong dry spell, so I foolishly let my expectations get the better of me. Now I’ll just have to wait another 2+ months for the rest of them.

  • tierbee

    David’s album stayed on the charts because he had a HUGE fan base

    Well, I’d disagree with this…

    Yeah, me too. I don’t think he stayed on the charts for 40 weeks or whatever because of this huge fanbase. There seems to be a pervasive myth that he has a giant Idol bubble fanbase and nobody outside it ever liked his music and… I just think that’s false.

    So we have been minutely slicing and dicing and analyzing a song that is not the final mix? Arrrrrgh!

    Sharpens scalpel for tomorrow’s Slice&Dice2.

  • tierbee

    I realize that, but it’s been a looooong dry spell, so I foolishly let my expectations get the better of me.

    Aww, I’m sorry! I purposely tried to wipe expectations out of my brain, especially the longer it dragged out. Plus I had Jeremy Lister/Street Corner Symphony to distract me, at least the past few months. Haha :)

  • fadetowhite

    RCAed has said this is not the final version of the song so you will get to dissect it again tomorrow.

    Way-hey!

    Maybe we can all swap round: those who love/like this version can hate the final mix and those who hate it can like/love it.

    It’ll be fun!

  • Listening

    Sma11ie yeah the rest of the songs are a good way to judge but I can’t help but feel in the back of my head he was thinking the entire time can’t have a major dip in sales for a 2nd album or I won’t get a 3rd so i have to keep it poppy. In that case possessing that perception i’d always make excuses about why the album was so pop not accepting that it was his true style.
    I would be so happy if we could get half and half album 6 pop/rock songs and 6 harder rock songs fingers crossed.

    Okay so I listened to it again I believe it’s the 5th time I’ve heard the song it got a little more catchier.
    I think songs have to have at least 1 of 3 things going for it which would make it popular. 1) You can dance to it 2) it’s catchy or 3) you feel it-meaning it’s emotional/connection to it. You have to possess one of those traits to be hit if you posses more than just one of those traits you got a smash on your hands.
    The only trait that The Last Goodbye has possibility of having is saying it’s catchy we’re not quite there yet. Maybe a little bit catchy but gotta listen to it more to see what happens chance it could grow on me.

  • CindyM

    nigerdelta says:
    04/18/2011 at 2:36 pm
    Does not sound like Tedder at all. David must have written most of it. it’s not bad but after such a long absence, I wanted him to come back with something stronger. hopefully it does well for him.

    on a side note, I get nervous when idols write their own music cos i am yet to see one that wrote a hit. I may be wrong but Lee, Kris, Crystal , Jason, Archuleta #2 etc all wrote/ co wrote all or most of the songs on their albums and the songs went no where.

    Daughtry writes his own hits and has for a while.

    ETA: Forgot about Kelly C and Carrie, they’ve had co-writes on their hits too.

  • BootStar

    Aww, I’m sorry! I purposely tried to wipe expectations out of my brain, especially the longer it dragged out. Plus I had Jeremy Lister/Street Corner Symphony to distract me, at least the past few months. Haha

    Oh, don’t get me wrong, tierbee, I’ve distracted myself plenty. I’ve got tons of new music on my iPod to listen to and since I’m a Casey James fan, I’ve been able to keep up with his new stuff, which I’ve liked for the most part when he road tested it. (I need to prepare myself for the “finished product,” however. I can only imagine what it will sound like once it gets recorded.)

    I love David, but life will go on even if I come to the conclusion that I really don’t care for his music! What can I say? I just really like the guy and would so like to be able to share his music with my friends.

  • iani

    Hi everyone! This is my first post on MJ’s site, I like it and read it every day for the past 3 years. Unfortunately English is my second language, so I’m not very articulate to express myself very well, the reason I didn’t comment here and just a little on DCO. Maybe I’ll comment later more about David’s song, first impression from snippets was like “OK, crappy, poppy, RCA style kind of single, from the bunch of about 80 songs written they came up with that one!”. From the final “product” I like it a lot and put it on rotation too many times today. So, I’ve tried to analyze the song step by step to understand why I like it when I am more into rock/hard rock kind of Mr. Sensitive/Searchlights one and I am with Spanishfan, the song is perfect based on the season, the mood, the structure, light in rock, light in electronic and other artificial sounds, a little bit of pop sugar of course for some CHR flavor request… The song has grabbed me almost immediately and I don’t think is a cheep one at all, but not a Grammy contender either. It is a good song for the a struggling, talented musician, dragging his AI winner and WGWG tag through music industry to make a living(how he said in the E! interview). Some of you connected some sounds from the song with others from other songs, I try too to make my choice. I put once on DCO-OT a link with a band from DK and I commentated that for me is like a song written by DC, structural “building” and some sounds are like David’s new single(of course for me). The band is hard rock, finishing now their tour in US. Sorry Neal(from DC band) you didn’t like them in concert, their hard rock is pretty musical, not for your taste and not their fault your friends opened for them and not vice versa. There is Fallen and sorry for the unnecessary talk http://www.volbeat.dk/2/videos.php?id=4&lang=en Good luck to David!

  • tinawina

    I think his album had a large first few weeks sales, because he had a huge fanbase coming off AI. I think it stayed in the charts and continued to sell, because people liked the music.

    Exactly. There have been other popular winners whose singles didn’t chart as well and whose album didn’t sell as long. Somebody out there just liked his stuff. :D

    Maybe we can all swap round: those who love/like this version can hate the final mix and those who hate it can like/love it.

    LOL!

    Daughtry writes his own hits and has for a while.

    Yup! Kelly has writing credit on some of hers as well.

  • Listening

    fadetowhite, thanks for the tid-bit way interesting. I went over there and he actually says that David was a little bummed b/c it wasn’t the final version and RCAed says that the 30 sec snippet doesn’t do the song justice. Color me intrigued hmm I wonder if there’s a big difference. This reminds me of a time one of Carrie Underwood’s singles got leaked I think it was Cowboy Cassanova anyway it was a pop version of a song but she was simply testing it out and the single’s final version actually much more country so she was bummed about it getting leaked.

  • standtotheright

    I do so love being vindicated.

    It’s never final until it hits the retailers, peeps!

  • cmom

    Well as a fan of both Cook and Archie, I think he will be fine as long as radio will play it and I think they will. As we know, Archie has some great songs on his 3rd cd and the cd was well reviewed even by EW and yet radio refused to play any of it so other than hardcore internet fans, no one knew about it. I think Cook will be played on the radio and Ryan S will actually have him on his show to show support where with Archie even though Ryan S. told Archie that he wanted him to come back when his album dropped and really seemed excited about it, that never happened. It’s all about the support (and of course, the fans but fans can not make radio play someone if their mind is set against it). I don’t think Cookie will have that problem and that means that non-hardcore fans will hear it and say “Cook is back”.

  • jumpstart

    Maybe we can all swap round: those who love/like this version can hate the final mix and those who hate it can like/love it.

    Oh joy. ;)

  • Trina

    Davids big fanbase obviously played a huge part in his sales, but staying on the chart for like 11 months? I strongly suspect that’s beyond the Idol fanbase. You don’t need groundbreaking music to keep selling, but you need to be heard. And as crappy as I thought CBTB was it did very well on HAC. I never got the appeal but obviously enough people liked it enough to help it sell gold which even that for a 3rd single is very rare.

  • Keel

    Look, I liked David’s first album. There were a few songs I LOVED, but after waiting for two years, I expected something that would surprise me a little. There’s nothing surprising here at all. In fact, it sounds like it would have fit right in with the stuff on the last album, along with the other songs I skipped when I still listened to it.

    Eh, most first singles are always safe and somewhat reminiscent of songs that made the artist famous in the first place. Some examples?

    Exhibit A: Avril Lavigne’s first single — What the Hell (aka Girlfriend redux)

    Exhibit B: Kelly Clarkson’s first single — My Life Would Suck Without You (Since U Been Gone redux)

    Interestingly, they’re both RCA artist. At this point, I’m actually kind of shocked they let Cook get away with a non-ballad or mid-tempo song. But then again, neither LO or CBTM blew up big the way GF and SUBG did.

  • unidentified

    It is so good to have a David Cook song to dissect. Fun, fun day & more to come. I have listened to TLG 40+ times. I still love it. Cannot wait for the album.

  • smeggingnuts

    Well congrats to Cook fans ur wait if finally over. And the CD is in site :)

    So I listened to the song and it sounds like his last album. Very Cook so I think that is will do well on HAC and its something his fans already like. Sounds like win for him and his fans.

    Not a fan myself but I will listen to the rest of him album when it comes out and see if there is something I like

  • Brisblondie

    LOL this isn’t even the final mix! (oh poor David though…that’s kind of a drag for him, but he’ll get over it and then get back to us, right?-hehe) Slice and Dice The Sequel coming soon!

    I’ve been tempering my expectations for a long time now, and was still really reluctant to actually listen when the song leaked. I was skeered I would hate it! But, thankfully the tempering paid off and I like it for what it is…an uptempo summer pop/rock ditty with David’s awesome vocals front and center. (happily pets TLG)

    Aww…Archie fan above… I feel ya. I still don’t understand what happened with David A. He had a huge hit with Crush, and was a very very popular Idol. Where was the support – label, radio, and otherwise? You just never know what will happen next in this business.

  • Incipit

    Ed’s response at DCO about the leak HERE.

    Well hell, Thank you, Pam.

    “David did not leak it. In fact, he’s sorta bummed because it’s not even the final mix he approved for the album, so y’all can consider it a collector’s piece AND look forward to the final, final version coming tomorrow.”

    Snippets are evil, and leaks are almost as unreliable. Skimming through this is vuja de all over again – circa 2008 – expectations vs reality, and the AI dichotomy with popular radio writ large.

    Eh. I have a preference – I prefer to hear the song the way the artist intended, whenever possible.

    I have DC concert tracks that sound like they were filtered through the bass speakers, I have a blend for “High and Dry” (which works wonderfully well) so the song sounds complete, I have sound check recordings that may have been made through a wall, I have the unexpected gift of “Absolutely Still”, with the voice cutting through the ambient crowd noise in beautiful falsetto mode – that’s the only way I could get them and I Flove and appreciate them all. And I have waited, mostly patiently, for this album.

    So there’s an unapproved leak that isn’t even the final cut – one day short of the Real Thing, for TLG…and I’m not going after the pirated mp3, because – I.Don’t.Have.To.

    Everyone’s mileage will vary about that – just as it will on the finished product…but I know what the first single is for – and I’m not the target demographic – radio is. I may like it, or Flove it, or be indifferent, like CBTM – doesn’t matter, I’ll support it. So you go, TLG. Do your job!

    I also have to *chuckle*, because David knows his fans – the promise of “Paper Heart” and the DNA written “Goodbye to the Girl” was no accident…JIC there are still those who form conclusions about a whole album based on the sound of the Radio Single…it’s a reminder. Don’t do that.

    And I have about nine hours to go – the end of a lonnng wait for Christmas morning, even if it hits at the stroke of midnight, EDT.

    *Anticipatory Grin* and JMO.

  • kathrynTX

    Oh my. I haven’t read all the comments and I can’t listen to the song on this computer. But I always have an opinion! haha. I listened to the snippet several times…..

    I hope that David’s AI coronation song and Light On went platinum because more than just AI fans liked them. And then the first major-label album as well, of course.

    I think that it is rare for consecutive albums from the same artist to sound TOTALLY different; after all, it’s the same artist. Some artists can do it, but it’s usually further along in their recording careers (and sales) than Cook is right now. I didn’t expect something really different from DCTR as the first single off this album. I think he’s GOTTA have radio play to be successful and if it’s gotta be a little pop-rocky, well, he can do that. And I, for one, will probably like it.

    I didn’t know WHAT to expect when I got hold of Analog Heart during S7. But it certainly didn’t sound like David Cook of American Idol on AH. I didn’t think so, anyway. And I really love that album. I didn’t know what to expect on DCTR either. And I love that album. But it didn’t sound like AH to me. It did have to grow on me a little and every song is not my favorite. But overall, I would fight to keep it on my iPod! And I don’t know exactly what to expect from TLM…more of the same, similar, kinda like, maybe a little different from previous David Cook work? I expect I’ll like it. The bottom line for me is that CONNECTION thing. I just connect with him, his sound, his lyrics, and his live performances.

    I do feel somewhat protective of him too LOL. I admit I don’t FLOVE every song I’ve got. But, the last time I listened to an artist this much was when Damn The Torpedoes came out. There, I’m dating myself….

    Can’t wait for tomorrow and June 28!

  • leome

    Maybe we can all swap round: those who love/like this version can hate the final mix and those who hate it can like/love it.

    lmao Then you could stop feeling guilty :P

    But I have a feeling the final mix won’t be that different anyway. But I can’t wait for it to it Itunes and if possible to have a track list too.

  • jumpstart

    David’s album stayed on the charts because he had a HUGE fan base

    Well, I’d disagree with this…

    As would I. Nothing stays on the charts for weeks on end unless new fans develop after AI. See “Hicks, Taylor.”

  • Joyed

    My greatest excitement about the preorder is to finally see the tracklist – I wonder which ones we will already know, and which ones will be surprises :D

    Also, I wasn’t surprised to hear that the mix wasn’t final because it didn’t sound like it was. I’m not going to judge the production until I actually hear the HQ mixed version.

  • Pam

    Well hell, Thank you, Pam

    ha! No problem. I’m kind of glad to know that this wasn’t the final mix. It makes me more excited to hear it tomorrow.

  • Amanda :)

    I’ve been following this thread for four hours XD

    Anyway, I’m gonna keep myself from having too high hopes for the final mix. I’m pretty sure I’ll like it more than the current mix, but I don’t expect a *huge* difference.

    For everyone comparing DC’s music, I think it really depends on what each person looks for from him. At the end of the day, it’s still a David Cook-styled song. Which is why no matter how hesitant we’re being right now, we’re gonna grow to love it. But yeah, we have crazy high expectations. It’s been three years!

    On a side note, does anyone know if the Johnny Rzeznik co-write will be on the album? I hope it is :D

  • fadetowhite

    On a side note, does anyone know if the Johnny Rzeznik co-write will be on the album?

    Haven’t heard his name mentioned…but who knows?

    I’m looking forward to the Kevin Griffin co-write, because I really like Avalanche; to the band’s own song; to Paper Heart and (if there is one; speculation abounds) to a Cook solo effort.

    Beyond that – it will be really interesting to see which of the songs we’ve heard of over the last however many months make the track list and which don’t (and which ones we had no inkling about :lol). I’m wondering whether there will be a few involving David Hodges.

  • pattycake

    David did not leak it. In fact, he’s sorta bummed because it’s not even the final mix he approved for the album, so y’all can consider it a collector’s piece AND look forward to the final, final version coming tomorrow.”

    See I told ya he was reading MJ’s Hi Dave!!

  • Brisblondie

    Does anyone else remember David saying that this record would have really high high’s and really low low’s? I’m excited to finally get to hear the finished project of all the highs and lows…well in June, at least. ;)

  • Amanda :)

    Haven’t heard his name mentioned…but who knows?

    It was the song in that NY blog when DC called his Flipcam an “iFlip” (Love ya!) and I think it’s called “Right Here With You.” I got really irrationally attached to that snippet, and I’m really hoping the song makes it and that the whole thing is as awesome as the five second snippet :P

  • ladymadonna

    My favorite things at the moment are that driving guitar riff that runs right through it, and the way it ends so strongly on just his voice. I’m taking it as a good sign that I couldn’t get the damn thing out of my head through my afternoon management meeting.

    And yes, I’m giddy at the thought that iTunes may gift us with a full album tracklist tonight. That alone should keep Cook fans busy with the dissecting tools for another 10 weeks.

  • BootStar

    I’m curious, does anybody know how these things get “leaked” to begin with? And it’s not even the final cut? Who does that? Friend or foe?

  • sma11ie

    @play987: Just heard @thedavidcook’s new single ‘The Last Goodbye’. I’ll play it for you tonight after 7pm :) it’s so good!

    Sooo… did the radio station get the final cut early? Or are they playing the “not-final” leak…? I’m confused.

  • ladymadonna

    Sooo… did the radio station get the final cut early? Or are they playing the “not-final” leak…? I’m confused.

    I’m guessing it’s the leak. My local HAC station posted a link to the leak and has a survey up asking for feedback plus pitting it head-to-head against Bruno Mars’ Lazy Song. So far Cook is winning. :)

  • breakdown

    This is typical of RCA. They never put out the best songs on a cd as singles.:(

  • Balance

    yayyyyy…that’s my HAC station!! Guess my ears will be multi-tasking tonight! That DJ luvs her some David Cook.

  • Chicagolaw

    Well, I’m guessing the final cut will be essentially what was leaked. I mean, that 30 sec. snippet was from the final cut, right?

    It is going to be fun to see David on Thursday!

  • sr4mjc

    @play987: Just heard @thedavidcook’s new single ‘The Last Goodbye’. I’ll play it for you tonight after 7pm :) it’s so good!

    That’s Tampa unmonitored HAC. I like this station. It used to be a Jazz station so the signal isn’t the best, but it’s CBS radio.

  • gigglesmo3

    On a side note, does anyone know if the Johnny Rzeznik co-write will be on the album?

    In the recent interview David did with THR he mentioned Rzeznick’s name, so I still have hope that song will be on the album:

    …and as I write with all these amazing people like Ryan Tedder and David Hodges and Raine Maida and Johnny Rzeznik, it’s impossible to have their talent and expertise around and not rub off on you.

  • gigglesmo3

    Well, I’m guessing the final cut will be essentially what was leaked. I mean, that 30 sec. snippet was from the final cut, right?

    RCA Ed said that wasn’t the final version either.

  • jlc

    So I take it the leak has been taken off and I missed it? I hear nothing at the link MJ provided…and I can’t even read anything there cuz its all in spanish…color me bummed. :o(

  • leome

    So I take it the leak has been taken off and I missed it? I hear nothing at the link MJ provided…and I can’t even read anything there cuz its all in spanish…color me bummed. (

    It’s still there. Just click the orange play button. (and it’s actually portuguese)

    If they haven’t sent the song to radio stations yet, those playing it are probably using the leak version.
    Speaking of that, I’d love to see adds dates too.

  • sma11ie

    RCA Ed said that wasn’t the final version either.

    He also said they (DCO webnerds) received the final song on Friday afternoon. My question: where the F did Amazon get their copy, from which to make a 30-second snippet, last Thursday, if it was not the final version? Why would the label send retailers like Amazon a non-final tease, and then later a final version?

    jlc, apparently there’s a Russian site with the song still up. I’m sure if you search the webs you’ll find it.

    Speaking of that, I’d love to see adds dates too.

    Srsly, wat up wit dat? Is this normal?

  • jlc

    I don’t see any orange button on the Portuguese link.
    I’ll check out the Russian one.

    (We can’t find Bin Ladin but the Russians & Portuguese can leak Cookie’s music?) lol

  • leome

    lmao jlc. you crack me up.
    If the portuguese and the russians are no use, try searching david cook on youtube, maybe? or goole.

    Srsly, wat up wit dat? Is this normal?

    I don’t know really. Shouldn’t it be available for stream before being available for sale too?
    But we’ll see what happens after the idol performance.

  • jlc

    Okay I just listened to it on Rickey’s site. Direct Mp3 button (no link) I might add. And in English. Didn’t see BinLadin though.

    I like it. I was hoping this album would showcase David’s voice more (better?) than the first album did and if this song is any indication of the rest of the album, I get my wish. I don’t like David’s voice buried in noisy electric guitar playing, even though I know that’s what he likes to do. Hope there are some slow, sexy songs, too. Also still wishing, after all these years, for a full version of “The World I Know” from him. I won’t hold my breath on that.

    I guess I’m a pop fan. To me there is no rock today. Rock was what I listened to in the 70s (and still do). No one will ever top that.

  • CindyM

    I know with a couple of leaks in the past, the leaks came from foreign countries because the songs were released to their itunes or digital providers early. Don’t know if that’s the case here.

  • Eyeswideshut2

    I find it weird that RCA Ed is literally inviting people on DCO to listen to the leak. Sort of strengthens my suspicions regarding the source of the leak. Except that Ed seems to have leaked prematurely (tm Someone awesome on twitter) :-)

  • sunchick

    Seems like RCAEd fell for one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is “never get involved in a land war in Asia…” but only slightly less well known is this: Never trust a Portuguese with unfinished song mixes when your artist’s career is on line. Hee. Honestly, after reading through the entire thread, I’m actually extra happy that I decided for selfish personal reasons to wait and experience the live version first. I want to like it, and nothing sells a song like Live!Dave, which I think is the secret to the popularity of his covers, and in part the almost universal fanbase approval after the debut of Declaration and Paper Heart, and the success of the neverending tour. Sometimes I wonder if I would have loved Declaration so hard right off the bat if I had heard the album version before the live version because I always, always hear the SNL version in my head when I think of that song.

    At this point I don’t have much to contribute to the discussion of the actual song, except to say that singles are singles, and albums are albums, and I prefer to judge the value of Cookie’s artistic output after hearing the entire album. But that apparently is not going to stop me from blathering on, so whatever. I remain cautiously optimistic based on the title (not generic!) and the album art (less serial killerish) and Paper Heart (not generic!) and the lyrics to TLG (better than 90% of the tunes on pop radio.) And even then my opinion could change after seeing him tour on the album. As for the Cook doesn’t know himself as an artist thing? Context is everything. I’m a big fan of the Canadian alt music scene in general, and so I was digging Arcade Fire before it was cool to dig Arcade Fire. And you know what? They very comfortably coexist with a lot of Cook music on my iPod. Maybe not the album versions of the DCTR songs as much as the live ones (Permanent and ADAM being the exceptions) but then again AF are a touring jam band on an indie label. It’s hardly comparing apples to apples unless you start talking Cookie’s indie work and the live shows. Can you imagine RCA signing AF and releasing, I dunno, Wake Up to pop radio, and how different it might have sounded? Adele- great pop album, great break up album, not quite as “groundbreaking” to me as it apparently is to other people, and as far as great break up albums go, IMO AH stands up okay. Blaspheme. If I end up liking this single a fraction as much as I like Paper Heart, it’s already more than I liked Come Back to Me, so baby steps. Here’s hoping.

  • jlc

    Except that Ed seems to have leaked prematurely

    Some men do that…

  • Pam

    Srsly, wat up wit dat? Is this normal?

    I’m kind of perplexed about that too. I took a peak at All Access this morning and of course saw no evidence of a date so I’m kind of wondering about that myself.

  • fadetowhite

    Someone posted a timeline for the release of Daughtry’s last album on DCO – with the proviso that DC is not Daughtry! – and the radio adds dates for both HAC and CHR were quite a while after the AI debut.

    I don’t know why that would be – but as the Press release and AI performance/debut happened in a very similar way and the amount of time between single and album is pretty much the same, there is some speculation that Cook’s rollout will be similar throughout.

  • sunchick

    Maybe they’re hoping a good live performance and some buzz from a little itunes bump will help the radio push?

  • sunchick

    (Also, did the edit button disappear for everyone, or is it just me? Sorry about the long ass post hoing up yonder…)

  • Pam

    (Also, did the edit button disappear for everyone, or is it just me? Sorry about the long ass post hoing up yonder…)

    hee. It may be just you. That’s weird. My previous post still has the edit function.

  • fadetowhite

    It’s vanished for me too!

    But hey – it wouldn’t be a real Cook thread without seriously long-assed post hoing (guilty!).

    ETA: it’s come back!

  • sunchick

    Well, no use editing it down for brevity’s sake now, so we’ll just call it a broken piece of art put on display. :D

  • gigglesmo3

    DCO is now streaming The Last Goodbye

  • Pam

    Deleted because gigglesmo3 was quicker than me. :)

  • CindyM

    The streamed version at DCO doesn’t sound any different to me.

  • tinawina

    The song was the same, it was the other mix that wasn’t final. This one sounds a lot less muddled to me and I can pick out all the different musical elements now.

  • girlygirl

    Ok so listened to the stream on DCO. It’s not as muddy, as can hear the instrumentation better, but other than that is there much difference in this mix and the one that was leaked?

  • cheese

    The final mix sounds great. If I want to get my music snob on, I’ll listen to something else, but this is really fun (something that was sorely lacking from DCTR). I love that it sounds like something Kelly might sing, because Kelly is my other guilty pleasure Idol.

    Honestly, the only Idol I like who sounds like someone I would normally listen to is Josiah, and I know how popular he is, haha.

  • Keel

    Heh. At least the stream on DCO just keeps replaying over and over, so I don’t have to keep pressing “play.”

    Seems like RCAEd fell for one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is “never get involved in a land war in Asia…” but only slightly less well known is this: Never trust a Portuguese with unfinished song mixes when your artist’s career is on line.

    Bwah! Thanks for this. :D

  • nspiredbycook

    Wow! Huge difference to me. His voice so much more front and center! I’m just happy for the guy. Hope it’s a hit for him!

  • hazuki

    the youtube version sounds much different then the leaked version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcjJzdhs5gM&

  • tinawina

    Ok so listened to the stream on DCO. It’s not as muddy, as can hear the instrumentation better, but other than that is there much difference in this mix and the one that was leaked?

    Not to me. I hear his voice more and the bridge is much clearer, I can hear what’s going on now at that part much better. But I don’t think its radically different. But then again, I haven’t listened with my earbuds on yet.

  • pattycake

    I have gone all day and not listened. Then I go to DCO and its playing once you open the site! No clicking! So I listened… and I LOVED! It seems different then DCTR but his voice was loud and clear. It also appears to be a perfect song for this time of the year, nearing the end of school/college and moving on. I definately can see this song on the radio while beach bound. I would never expect that from a Cook song. Another WTF moment for Mr Cook.

  • standtotheright

    If nothing else, I am grateful to this song for finally getting the “I’m gonna eat your brainz” LO avi off the front page.

    Bwah! Thanks for this.

    Seconded.

  • _nyanyanie

    I love that it sounds like something Kelly might sing, because Kelly is my other guilty pleasure Idol.

    i read funny post on twitter last night, saying its like his reply to the mad kelly of since u been gone.

    but i love love love it.
    its for those who love time of my life & the those who love Light on or CBTM, its been discussed before he needs a pop hit or something, then people want him to stay on rock…

    so there we go, we have a combo… and why do i feel like dancing to it? but listening deeply to lyrics, its actually a heartbreak song…

  • bentley1530

    I never watched DC on AI and have rarely heard him on the radio but I like this song. It is upbeat and catchy and perfect for this time of year. I hope it does well.

  • 123abc456

    I can tell a difference. The sound is better. I still love the song but now more. :)

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Good radio song. David has a great, distinctive voice.

  • tigervixxxen

    No the mix isn’t drastically different but there is a noticeable change. There is more of a driving feel in the instrumentation. Not just louder but more aggressive and reduces the tinkly feeling in the demo version. I’m a very pleased Cook fan, a great straddle between rock and pop here. Can’t wait for the album.

  • AllenTX

    I don’t hear that much differences other than the sound quality. It sounds so much like one of Kelly Clarkson’s songs. Can’t really say I’m impressed.

  • Trina

    I feel weird. I love this way too much. And considering how I felt upon hearing LO for the first time and my CBTM hate, um yeah this is weird. Love!

  • suenigma

    Beatweek Magazine seems to unconditionally love it and thinks it is going to be a hit! Yay! So happy for Cook.

    http://www.beatweek.com/news/8446-david-cook-unveils-the-last-goodbye-ahead-of-album-american-idol-spot/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=shortlink&utm_campaign=shortlinks

    “…The up tempo rocker offers an upbeat-sounding take on the end of a relationship with “If you hear this on the radio, then we’ve already said our last goodbye.” The Last Goodbye gets the official Beatweek thumbs up. Expect to hear it blasting out of radios all summer…”

  • Listening

    Tigervixxen, Yes I agree it does feel more aggressive which makes it sound less pop more rock, which pleases me. This has a nice balance of pop and rock.

    The final version is much improved to me. It does seem fuller I guess his voice is more pronounced. That eliminates some of the complaints I had earlier I felt his voice was singular almost small. That was also helped by hearing the instruments clearer. I think we’re also hearing the background vocals better as wel, just a bit maybe, that gives a more complete sound to the song. I’m like yeah this is a band.

    One question though does it feel like he’s rushing his vocal to anyone else? I get the impression that he’s like singing really fast to get all the words out in time.

    After listening to the official version I feel like it could do okay as opposed to he’s totally going to bomb when I heard the leaked version.

    Gonna listen to it again to see if anything changes could grow on me more.

  • Pam

    If nothing else, I am grateful to this song for finally getting the “I’m gonna eat your brainz” LO avi off the front page.

    The LO cover sort of had a stalkerish “I’m coming after you” look to it. heh I like this one much better. I’m really beginning to love the song now. It’s great that we don’t have to press play. :)

  • HotHotHot

    Much cleaner and better sounding!

  • karenc

    Really love TLG. I think it’s a little more pop and uptempo than a lot of songs from the last album, but still sounds like one of his songs.

    I liked it from the first time I heard it, and have listened to it streaming several times and like it more and more. I really think it could be a hit.

  • jumpstart

    I think I’m addicted. Can’t get the lyrics or music out of my head. That never happened with LO or CBTM … strange.

  • ladymadonna

    I liked it from the leak but the final mix is slightly tighter and definitely better-balanced (as a good mix should be). His voice sounds fantastic.

    I dig.

  • Listening

    Hmm listened to the song like 3 times in a row I think it’s happening assimilation into the like this song club has begun. I found myself popping my head to the music and singing a couple of lines. How long before I’m absorbed into I love this song club will it occur only time will tell.

    Gonna listen to the song again.

  • Keel

    The LO cover sort of had a stalkerish “I’m coming after you” look to it. heh I like this one much better.

    I thought the LO cover had more of a “I smell a fart” look on Cook’s face. So yeah, even the flowery shirt and vest combo on the cover of TLG is def an improvement. Hope they use his pic from the album cover for the website though. He looks dapper and intense there — without looking the least bit serial killerish or that he just smelled a fart (take your pick).

    But overall, I think this song is much more accessible — and FUN! — than LO. Which I guess is the thing that really matters. And not the single covers. LOL :-D

  • Incipit

    Well, alright! Christmas comes early, and Jingle Bells! *snerk*

    Flove how David emphasizes the OFFICIAL part.

    “thedavidcook
    OFFICIAL version of “The Last Goodbye” streaming on http://www.davidcookofficial.com NOW!”

    Can’t get into a pop vs pop/rock discussion, just wish this much success, because radio will do whatever it does – and I don’t listen to it anyway – but this is an energy filled track I can wholeheartedly support, with vocal shifts all over the place, and the voice front and center. It’s been observed that ” There is hardly one melodic line or phrase that is the same. He jumps through registers and all sorts of vocal acrobatics.” Always raising the bar.

    Also. No matter what evolutions and progressions, I don’t think the basic attitude has changed much since the May 30th, 2008 interview, when David said “I’ve always tried to find a happy medium between being a pop rock song writer and having that kind of Big Wreck vibe, having each song stand on its own and also work in a collective. So that sort of brings us to where I am now.”

    Yeah. It does. Off to listen to the Official version on the endless loop which DCO is streaming. *wink*

  • shenanigan

    Had fallen into totally loving the song just based on the leak, yet there were a few little niggling things that I sort of excused because of the other parts. They have been fixed and it is even better. It definitely sounds more rock to me now. For some reason I like it much better than I did LO or CBTM. It just seems fuller, more whole, there is less undercurrent of anguish. Back to listen without having to press play over and over. Yay!

  • sma11ie

    Omg, it’s sooo much better! I liked the song to begin with, but had a few reservations on the production, but the OFFICIAL version wipes away all those issues. No WONDER he was “bummed” about the leak– I’d be pissed too if someone leaked a crappier version of a work of mine ahead of release. I’m glad they got up the official versions. Yay!

    There is more of a diving feel in the instrumentation. Not just louder but more aggressive and reduces the tinkly feeling in the demo version. I’m a very pleased Cook fan, a great straddle between rock and pop here. Can’t wait for the album.

    WORDY MCWORD!

    One question though does it feel like he’s rushing his vocal to anyone else? I get the impression that he’s like singing really fast to get all the words out in time.

    No, not at all. The song has a driving beat and the pace of the vocal is perfectly matched to it IMO. I mean, if you wanna hear uber-rushed sounding vocals, I was just listening to the rest of Carrie’s Play On album this weekend (a bit late, I know– I had Temporary Home for a while, but just got the rest), and you gotta go check out Songs Like This. Carrie usually does uptempo really well, but that song was just very frenetic in parts. TLG is just right, I think.

    i read funny post on twitter last night, saying its like his reply to the mad kelly of since u been gone.

    Ha! I like that. I’ll have to listen to SUBG and TLG in succession to see if it works!

  • tierbee

    The song was the same, it was the other mix that wasn’t final. This one sounds a lot less muddled to me and I can pick out all the different musical elements now.

    Yep, that’s what I think, just sounds more clean, vocals are more forefront… and YAY for not having to push play and having DCO just indulge my need to listen again and again and again…

  • Curlin

    It’s super catchy and I can’t wait to see Cook perform it on AI this Thursday!

  • steve2013

    Honestly Kinda dissapointed waited this long for new DC music and dont think its that great of a song if this is suppose to be the best song on the album im kinda worried.

  • Junior

    eh…generic sound imo. But i’m impartial on Cook, so I don’t know if that makes a difference.

  • karenc

    jumpstart says:
    04/18/2011 at 7:58 pm
    I think I’m addicted. Can’t get the lyrics or music out of my head. That never happened with LO or CBTM … strange.

    I’m addicted to it too. I’ve listened to it several times and like it more and more. I don’t think that’s ever happened with a new song with me before.

  • blmetsfan

    It’s so generic. I’m trying to like it, but it’s not getting stuck in my head. Tedder should have (and has) done better, IMO.

  • tierbee

    Honestly Kinda dissapointed waited this long for new DC music and dont think its that great of a song if this is suppose to be the best song on the album im kinda worried.

    Besides “best” song usually being entirely subjective, it is unusual for *me* anyway to think the single, especially lead single, is the best song on an album. Just because they picked it as the single doesn’t mean it’s the “best,” just means it’s the song that they thought had the best chance for radio traction. Or at least that’s what I assume the purpose of a lead single is for him :)

  • OmahaCookie

    I’ll agree with all the people that went from loving the leak to addicted to the OFFICIAL (heh) stream. My 16 year old daughter says “much better than Light On. Yeah, I’d buy it.”

  • Sassycatz

    Honestly Kinda dissapointed waited this long for new DC music and dont think its that great of a song if this is suppose to be the best song on the album im kinda worried.

    Well, I’m not a fan of this new song, but I didn’t care much for Light On or Come Back to Me either. However, I liked most of the other songs on the first album. Particularly, Kiss on the Neck, Avalanche, Mr. Sensitive, etc. I felt *they* were much better songs than the singles. So, I suspect that this will hold true for the second album. I’ll ignore the icing and stick with the cake.

  • Soberba

    I like it less on the second listening. But I still think it could do very well on radio (and RCA will probably push it hard). Good luck David!

  • blissful

    I don’t have the ears or expertise to distinguish the minute differences — it just sounds crisper, fuller, and tighter. Not groundbreaking, but totally fun and earwormy.

    All I wanted in his follow-up single was it be upbeat, prominent vocals, and more interesting instrumentation — so I’m satisfied.

    I hope it does well — fingers crossed.

  • Incipit

    if this is suppose to be the best song on the album

    steve2013, not to worry. It isn’t supposed to be. Even with “best” being completely subjective, depending on one’s tastes, the first single is picked for a specific job – radio play – and RCA is aiming at both Top 40 and HAC, from the sounds of their choice.

    The “Best” song on any album isn’t what the Single Monkeys test for – they are looking to the marketplace. Time will tell if they picked correctly – meanwhile, there will be a whole album of other songs to choose from, if this one doesn’t please you.

  • Garnetstar

    Eh everyone has their own opinions. It’s what makes the world go round. I’ve hated every radio single Cook has put out. This song, I liked right away. I’m like a few other posters. What the hell is wrong with me? Shouldn’t I hate this song. Just on principle or something?

    I agree that the production on the final mix is much better. It shifted everything over 1 or 2 steps to the rock side. Don’t get me wrong it’s still pop, but just more rock. LOL

  • GwendolynD

    Hmmmm…it does sound a little different. I like it better. I think it’ll do well.

  • lac123

    So I was able to wait until I got home and I listened. And now I can’t remember what it sounded like :/ Also, his cover reminds me of Avril Lavigne’s album cover. Oh David Cook, what happened since Idol and now… (sorry everyone and I totally was a David Cook fan during Idol).

  • ri

    Oh David Cook, what happened since Idol and now… (sorry everyone and I totally was a David Cook fan during Idol).

    my thoughts exactly.

  • ladymadonna

    It’s gotten a couple of test spins so far tonight – KZPT 99.7 in Kansas City and WPTJ 98.7 in Tampa (both HAC) played it within the last hour. A few other stations have tweeted that they have the song and will play it in the morning (sounds like Dave has a bunch of phoners scheduled tomorrow).

  • Incipit

    Garnetstar, IKWYM!

    I understood the strategy behind “Light On”, and I realized that there were plenty of people who liked and bought that and CBTM over the last two years, to the tune of Platinum and Gold, but I didn’t actually prefer either one.

    The track on DCTR that I was in absolute love with was “Kiss on the Neck”! Talk about unrequitable love – it wasn’t even available on iTunes. *snerk*

    This, I like. A lot. It’s nice, for a change, to like the single, so I’m just going to enjoy that…and watching to see how it does will be much more fun this time, IMO.

  • sanrio76

    I sorta liked the leak, but had a few issues in places here and there. Now with the official streaming…..LOVE it. <3

  • sunchick

    Still resisting until Thursday…la la la….can’t go to DCO…won’t click above…la la la…

    Also, his cover reminds me of Avril Lavigne’s album cover.

    Huh? Which one, cuz I can’t think of an Avril cover that is similar at all.

    In the chorus Adele repeats 4-5 times “Rumour Has It”, Jordan and Adam 3x in Battlefield and Sleepwalker, 2x Kelly in Already Gone, I don’t know how many Halos Beyonce has in…

    Ha ha, you just summed up my longstanding Tedder hate in one sentence.

  • iani

    I wonder where would be RT’s contribution in this song?! In the chorus Adele repeats 4-5 times “Rumour Has It”, Jordan and Adam 3x in Battlefield and Sleepwalker, 2x Kelly in Already Gone, I don’t know how many Halos Beyonce has in… I like OR’s All the Right Moves a lot and Sleepwalker. Kelly’s and Adam’s songs are in my opinion similar in beat and production, completely different DC’s one.

  • Pam

    The track on DCTR that I was in absolute love with was “Kiss on the Neck”! Talk about unrequitable love – it wasn’t even available on iTunes. *snerk*

    I’ll never understand for the life of me why RCA chose to make KOTN a hidden track on DCTR. It truly is one of the best if not the best track on the album.

    It’s even better live. :)

  • Keel

    I’ll never understand for the life of me why RCA chose to make KOTN a hidden track on DCTR. It truly is one of the best if not the best track on the album.

    Agreed. I brought one of my best friend’s to DC’s concert when he came to town (hubs was sick) and right after Cook finished playing KOTN, my pop-loving friend leaned over and said “that’s a keeper!” Yup. Do. Not. Get.

    Granted, my absolute favorite song on DCTR was Declaration, followed closely by KOTN, so maybe I’m just an uptempo ho.

    Correction: There’s actually no doubt; I am an uptempo ho. :P

  • karenc

    Pam:

    I think that was the biggest mistake with DCTR. I think it could have been a huge hit, especially given the other songs that were out that year.

  • Joyed

    Declaration was my “wish it had been a single” song. I like Kiss on the Neck fine, but I never thought it would have made a good single.

    Here’s a new review

    I like their verdict:

    Overall, David Cook’s third release is off to a strong start with “The Last Goodbye” as its first single. Strong vocal delivery, solid storytelling and a sing-along chorus complete with Kings of Leon’s “Use Somebody”-style “whoa ohs” come together for a great song that should do big business at Adult Pop and Top 40 radio stations across the country. Only a major catastrophe would keep David Cook’s second post-Idol release from being a hit.

  • Sassycatz

    The fact that they didn’t make Kiss on the Neck a regular track on the album or promote it in any way is unconscionable. Really excellent song that says Cook! (Not Cornell! or Malloy!)

    And, ya know, Cook is who we voted for, not these third party writers.

  • kathrynTX

    Oooo I like it! Especially the ending. And the beginning. And his rockin’ vocals on the chorus. I like the WHOA OH OHs. And the beh-eh-eh-ter. This is gonna ROCK LIVE! And in my car. Heh. Please please my #@(*&# radio station (I think it’s HAC) PLAY THIS. I am hoping for major radio play. Where’s my download? WANT WANT WANT by morning for my iPod, for work.

    The Last Goodbye FTW!

  • MollyAnnMay

    zomg MUCH better. Cleaner, brighter, no mushiness back and forth between the vocal and instrumental tracks, and no tinny echoes. I think that about sums up why OFFICIAL is better. Heh.

    my absolute favorite song on DCTR was Declaration, followed closely by KOTN, so maybe I’m just an uptempo ho

    I’ve never consciously gravitated toward uptempo music, but that’s how DCTR1 broke down for me too, and I also felt an instant attraction to the beat in TLG. I’m beginning to wonder about myself.

    I also stand by my first thought, which is that this song is going to be even better live. And it’s a rare mainstream song that you can say that about these days.

  • hypertwink

    I knew it. I could hear Use Somebody a bit at the break. I liked this better than what the lying snippet that lies led me to believe. I like it a lot – maybe, because it’s a happy Cook (well, happy sound, but still angsting like anything). I was a little hesitant to hope it’d do well but hearing it now, I think it has a chance to dow ell. I really hope so.

  • IndyMuse

    Sunchick, I love the Princess Bride quote. One of the most quotable movies ever.

  • lac123

    Huh? Which one, cuz I can’t think of an Avril cover that is similar at all.

    I think it’s the colors, fonts and goodbyes that are similar (her album cover for goodbye lullaby vs his cover for the last goodbye)

    Next to each other they are different, but her album cover just popped into my head when looking at his.

  • Incipit

    Really excellent song that says Cook! (Not Cornell! or Malloy!)

    And, ya know, Cook is who we voted for, not these third party writers.

    Absolutely true. It was David and Neal writing together, and there were no awkward ‘wonder who wrote what’ moments, nothing jarred. It flowed seamlessly, just as they play seamlessly together.

    And yanno – as much as I am enjoying the single, I am also patiently waiting for June, and “Goodbye to the Girl”, because that’s all David, Neal and Andy, and I want to hear it!

    Meanwhile, TLG FTW! *wink*

    ETA: Not having heard the bootleg version, I checked for verdicts from people more musically conversant than I am. This is from Minstrel, on DCO – “Holy crap, it’s exponentially better. More bass, less treble, more guitars/keys, little less oh oh, and more David. Now it sounds like a rock song playing nice with pop.”

    Concise explanation of the difference, I hope.

  • IdolThoughts

    I likey. The official version seemed more cohesive to me. I think it’s very radio friendly. Love the vocals.

  • _nyanyanie

    I think it’s the colors, fonts and goodbyes that are similar (her album cover for goodbye lullaby vs his cover for the last goodbye)

    that’s her album cover, this is only his single cover… does the single cover make that much impact?

    as long as his ALBUM cover is good, i don’t have to worry much about his pose & color for this single cover

  • suenigma

    Well, two major reviews so far (Beatweek Magazine and NYTimes About.com Top40) and two big thumbs up, not to mention two unqualified predictions of a big radio hit.

    I am a very, very happy Cook fan…

    …In true Cookistanian fashion I expect it all to go to Hell in a handbasket tomorrow. LOL.

  • lizland

    i almost commented after a first listen, saying i didn’t like it and thought it was completely unmemorable. But then i gave it a few more listens and dang if it hasn’t grown on me. It isn’t instantly interesting like a lot of good pop songs (that i get sick of very quickly i suppose), but i think it could do pretty well if it gets a decent shot.

  • oceana

    I have the same basic thoughts as others, it’s better than the last singles as it’s upbeat and catchy. Some of the lyrics are pretty good. Love his voice here and the music. It’s a little poppy but that’s okay, it’s also more rocking. I can’t wait to see how it charts and if radio likes it. I think they will. I hope the reviews are good, believe they will be. I’m still listening to it :) I can’t wait to see him on Idol this week, and to hear the whole album.
    I pre-ordered the cd but don’t know how to retrieve it when the time comes. I’m sure I’ll figure it out.
    It’s about time, Mr. Cook :) It was a long wait but will be worth it.

  • hoosiermama

    I’ll have to come back and listen to the official version tomorrow. I’ve got Kris’ rockabilly song stuck in my head–just can’t wrap my brain around a pop/rock song right now! Glad peeps are excited though!

  • fadetowhite

    Much, much better version – less pop definitely. The plinky-plonks and ooh oohs are less noticeable: and this is a good thing.

    I like it more now.

    Off to check the other thread…