A David Cook update via his My Space.   And there’s some news! He’s begun to put his band together:

Hey guys. Sorry for the delay in updates. It’s been difficult finding the time to get a new Vlog put together, so I thought I’d write a quick blog instead. :)

We just wrapped another successful show in Pittsburgh, PA. The crowds have been great. Very responsive. VERY loud. I love it.

We’re neck deep in this record. Mr. Rob Cavallo is pushing all the right buttons and turning all the right knobs to make this record great. Just as importantly, I’m proud to announce the first addition to my band, Mr. Neal Tiemann (hereafter referred to as “Doctor”). Doctor was the chief songwriter/lead guitarist in MWK, the band I played with in Tulsa. He’s one of my closest friends and I am absolutely stoked to have him on board.

Also, he assures fans that he’s not behind the rip-off prices some distributor is charging for his record from his old band.   I say, why buy when you can download for free? Heh. He also pimps the upcoming singles of his fellow Idols David Archuleta and Kristy Lee Cook

 
  • grrrr

    I say, why buy when you can download for free?

    Because it’s fun getting some obscure piece of memorabilia autographed! That’s why I bought Taylor’s “Under the Radar” even though I’d already had the MP3s for months. If I do end up bus stalking at my show (probably not since I’m not very patient), I’ll have to settle for getting my sheet o’stamps signed. (Yes, I bought those. Don’t laugh at me. At least, not too hard. Heh.)

    Yay, no fake band for David! Everything about the record sounds so great so far, can’t wait to hear about a single!

  • waffle

    Wow!!! This is what I’ve been waiting for. . . and David didn’t disappoint! While I enjoy vlogs, I think blogs are so much more personal. You can’t beat the written word! I guess I’m old fashioned in this sense, as I really do prefer a good read over a nice movie.

    This one, in particular, was so well written. (Only had one typo in the last paragraph. LOL!) He actually seems well versed even in legalese, and since I’m a lawyer, I couldn’t help but feel a connection. :)

    I felt his sincerity through and through. He really cares for his fans, doesn’t he? And he was so respectful, both to his superior (producer) and his colleagues! While it was HIS blog, he didn’t write all about himself. His show of support to the other idols is truly admirable. It was a refreshing change from the other blogs I’ve been reading. Hahaha!!!

    How he’s managed to keep himself grounded through all this madness is mind-boggling. What a great role model he is! I could go on and on about what I think of DC’s blog (and DC). Maybe I will . . . later. My work day just started, and I got to get back to “real life”.

  • bigepaz

    He definitely cares for his fans and fellow idols. I loved the fact that he pimped both Archie and Kristy. Go Cookie! He definitely deserves all the success as well. I can’t wait to hear his album!

  • redridinghood

    What will happen to MWK though? Will they get a new guitarist? Or maybe they’ve already been planning to disband what with Andy Skib having a solo thing going on.

  • http://www.myspace.com/gwendolyndiane GwendolynD

    Just. :clap_tb: :thumbup_tb:

  • http://myspace.com/pm68 Pam

    Yay, no fake band for David!

    I am extremely happy about that too! :D

  • gingerly

    I noticed the one typo too. I was thinking he would get through the entire thing with no grammatical and no punctuation errors. He did so much better than most though. He should be proofing some of the others’ blogs I think.

    I’m so happy for David that he’s putting a band together with his choice of members and that one of his best friends will be able to share the journey with him. I wonder if Doctor will be playing on his new album.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll have to settle for getting my sheet oà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢stamps signed. (Yes, I bought those. Donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t laugh at me. At least, not too hard. Heh.)

    I bought them too! It’s for a good cause. ;) . As far as the Axium record goes, I hate that the distributor is taking advantage of the fans. Eff that!

  • yf7184

    I want to be Neal Tiemann’s guitar. Oh, wait, I want to be Neal Tiemann so I can be with his guitar. I am in love with his guitar.

  • http://www.myspace.com/gwendolyndiane GwendolynD

    This one, in particular, was so well written. (Only had one typo in the last paragraph. LOL!)

    LOL!!

    Me? I’m just happy to get decent punctuation and grammar when I can. In the age of text-speak, it’s so rare….

  • cheese

    Oh, he’s such a tease. What, do I have to buy Archie’s single and KLC’s to get a release date for David’s?

    I’m thrilled that he’s able to involve his pre-Idol bandmates, although I was under the impression that Neal was already up and coming in his own right as a guitarist/songwriter/producer. And yay! something to replace the crappiest.myspace.ever!

  • IGetCranked

    One word… Class

  • cookcricket

    Wow! Just when I’m wondering, “When are we going to hear from DC again?” and there it is! He has yet to disappoint! And so much to say! So many good things!!! I love how he writes.

    BTW, yes, I bought the stamps too. I’m so glad MJ mentioned the good cause, but glad I have them anyway!:)

    Also, I liked that he put a :) , in there and I liked his mood!

  • sherryw

    I am so glad to see an update from Cookie.
    I am, however, conflicted about some of the content.
    Having Neal in the band will certainly be comforting for DC and Neal is a very talented musician. But, I can’t help but think of Blake’s band last year, composed of his Seattle buddies. That didn’t work out so well. Say what you will about Chris’ fake band, but his success with that band is undeniable. Neal is the only member mentioned thus far, so….. we’ll see what happens next. IMO, label guidance is not always a bad thing. Too little creative control for an artist can lead to a Bo Bice situation. Too much control given to an artist can give you a Blake Lewis album (aka – permission to hang yourself in the music industry). The right balance can produce a Kelly, Carrie or Daughtry. Here’s hoping Cookie achieves that balance.

    It was indeed classy of him to pimp KLC and Archie. The man seems to have no ego whatsoever, and this will serve him well when he does his couple of weeks of promo before Christmas (interviewers like humble people). It would have been nice, though, if he could have given a ball park guesstimate of when we might actually be able to hear something from him with no mention of wings, rainbows or tasting moments. I can’t imagine that RCA would expect him to sell a rock album based on TOML – kind of like trying to sell pasta sauce made from rotten tomatoes. But others have been expected to sell with no major market airplay at all (he has gotten some at least), so, I don’t know.

    I don’t mean to rain on anybody’s parade and these are simply my observations and concerns. If it seems like rain, maybe it will end in a magic rainbow.

    For me, the longer I don’t hear anything concrete about a real single or the album release, the lower my expectations get. It does seem as if a certain amount of focus is missing as far as his “team”, IMO. I would rather have some information that ended up changing than nothing at all (it would show that someone in charge, other than Cookie himself, cared enough to try). Right now, I am done getting my hopes up. Like DC said regarding the finale, “It’s better to be surprised than disappointed”.

  • Jolene

    I enjoy David in any way he chooses to express himself, and the written word is no exception. What a classy, well spoken guy! Love him.

    I’ve heard several fan reports about the Axium thing, and I think it’s admirable that David cares so much about his fans to protest when he thinks they are being taken advantage of. I also think it’s deplorable that a member of Axium and one of David’s oldest friends is cashing in on his success in such a way.
    Will it keep the fans from purchasing the albums? Probably not, but it’s up to them and at least they have the facts. I do feel slightly less guilty for downloading said albums now. Whatever money was saved on that shall go into David’s solo debut, which is even better.

    sherryw :

    IMO. I would rather have some information that ended up changing than nothing at all

    That has never been David’s way, and I never expect that to change.
    On the show, his were always the last song choices revealed, there were never any leaks. He’s not the type to go around spreading rumors and false hope, and I for one admire that. Yes, it makes the waiting process more difficult, but it’ll also make the reward that much sweeter.
    I’m not worried, RCA has never released a summer single for its Idols, while Jive and Arista have. This has less to do with David and more to do with the labels. The way RCA promoted and pushed Magic Rainbows shows me something, the way they went outside their own stable of producers and got David someone like Rob Cavallo tells me alot. He’s not being Taylor’d or Biced or whatever you want to call it, he’s working hard on finishing a record he can be proud of. His style of rock is very commercial and I can’t see him going more experimental with his major label debut.
    He’s not Taylor, He’s not Blake, He’s not Bo. He’s David Cook, and I don’t think there’s anything to worry about.

  • sherryw

    Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not Taylor, Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not Blake, Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not Bo. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s David Cook, and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s anything to worry about.

    You are correct. But, IMO, the problem, this year anyway, is that he isn’t David Archuleta. Time will tell but it certainly seems to be shaping up for a redux of the seasons in which the winner disappeared from the public eye (S2 and S5 – the only other seasons where the winner released after everyone else and was not a priority). Maybe it’s because Archie is a young male pop singer (and AI doesn’t have one of those in their artist stable) and Cook is a pop/rock singer (but they already have Daughtry). I don’t know. We’ll see. But my expectations are probably lower than they have ever been for a post-Idol release (not in terms of quality – I am sure DC can deliver that; but in terms of commercial success – funny how what seemed like a sure thing two months ago now doesn’t appear to be so clear).

  • Jolene

    in terms of commercial success – funny how what seemed like a sure thing two months ago now doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t appear to be so clear

    OK, I’ll take a bite – why do you think David is doomed commercially? It seems to me like the only reason you say that is because David Archuleta is getting support from TPTB. Has anything to do with David Cook himself worries you?
    In other words – had Archie not released a single right now, would you still be this concerned?

    Can you think of any logical reason why DC would get tossed under a bus? He got TPTB a record breaking number of singles on the billboard chart, he outsold everyone this season by a wide margin – he is already a commercial success with TOML. Radio has already embraced him. What changed from two months ago to make you lose faith so quickly? Other than Archie getting support, I mean.

    The date for the album has not been pushed back – it’s been rumored to be mid November since day one, and that is still the date cited. A single was never mentioned, so there was no cancellation of a single release – it just isn’t part of the plan yet. It has never been, as far as we know.

    If when David does release his first single, it goes without fanfare, if he doesn’t get promotion, if a single is not released before the album – those are causes for concern. None of that has happened – I see no reason to assume the worst, not by a long shot.

    I’m just as anxious as the next DC fan to get news, to get new music, to get as much as possible as soon as possible, but I can wait, I can be patient and trust that he will get everything he deserves. There is no logical reason for him to be steamrolled – AI has gotten a commercial, yound, sexy winner. Makes no sense for them to dunk him. They’d be losing money, and alot of it.

    No hand wringing for me, sorry – I know good things are coming.

  • Layla

    You are correct. But, IMO, the problem, this year anyway, is that he isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t David Archuleta

    …and thank the lord for THAT!

    I, for one, am so pleased that a single isn’t be rushed out. DC has one of the BEST rock producers around. I don’t want false info just for the sake of info…what good is that? I want the real info as it becomes available.

    I think DC (and his people) know what they are doing.

    .

  • Jolene

    Anybody saw DC on Extra? Appearantly they were at the Skechers photoshoot with him.
    Man, I want to see that. Hopefully somebody caught on and it’d turn up somewhere online. If someone saw it, I’d love to know what it was like.

  • dew

    in my heart, i know, DC will be very successful………….

  • tinawina

    You are correct. But, IMO, the problem, this year anyway, is that he isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t David Archuleta. Time will tell but it certainly seems to be shaping up for a redux of the seasons in which the winner disappeared from the public eye (S2 and S5 – the only other seasons where the winner released after everyone else and was not a priority). Maybe ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s because Archie is a young male pop singer (and AI doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have one of those in their artist stable) and Cook is a pop/rock singer (but they already have Daughtry). I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know. Weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll see. But my expectations are probably lower than they have ever been for a post-Idol release (not in terms of quality – I am sure DC can deliver that; but in terms of commercial success – funny how what seemed like a sure thing two months ago now doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t appear to be so clear).

    I do see where you are going with this, and why. You could be right. 19E can only handle so many people at once, and they do already have Daughtry. That said, the difference between now and the other seasons is that
    1. Taylor wasn’t handled by 19, and in fact had a considerable amount of animosity going with 19,
    2. In S2 19E was busy setting up a Reuben vs Clay redux. Plus Clay was reportedly way ahead in votes most of the season, and lost by a squeaker at the very end. So it could be argued he was the more popular of the 2 and 19 reacted accordingly.

    This time, both the winer and runner up are very popular, and Cook had actually been ahead in the voting for some time, according to Fuller. After all, he ended up winning by 12 million votes! Also, after coming off 2 winners with (arguably) lackluster sales, it’s hard to believe 19E won’t try to hit this one out of the park. Cook does seem very commercial in ways Taylor and Jordin are not.

    I think this will be the first year where we see 19E try really hard with both the winner and the runner up.

  • Trina

    I’m just going to say one thing to give a perspective on how slow RCA can be when it comes to singles and why it’s ridiculous to think he’s being thrown under the bus because in AUGUST there’s no news about a single. I was a Daughtry fan during season 5 so I kept a record of Chris’ MySpace bulletins when he started sending out updates. There was actually lots of angst back then because there were issues getting the album done in time, but we didn’t start getting any substantial news until late September. They were still audtioning band members by early October. On October 21 Chris sent out a bulletin with some info and added they STILL didn’t decide on a single, then on Nov. 5 he sent out a bulletin saying It’s Not Over would be the first single and it went up on AOL First Listen that week. It went to rock radio first and Pop/Top 40 shortly after the CD was even released. Since Daughtry seems to be the benchmark for all things and he’s on RCA too I’m putting that out there.

    http://www.DirectCurrentMusic.com
    This site now lists both David’s as releasing on 11/11 for what it’s worth. That site had listed the correct date for Miley Cyrus’s new CD before Amazon did.

  • hypertwink

    Honestly, sherryw, you’re making me more paranoid than normal. But I can understand where you’re coming from, especially with the splash that Archie is making these days. I just think DC doesn’t want to speak out of turn until he’s very sure about the album. Knowing that he’s got an awesome producer kinda alleviated my concerns recently that we’re not going to get a Blake Lewis situation here. From what I hear they’re set for a November 19 drop but they have lots of songs to track as well as the new songs he’s cranking out/collaborating on — so I think that may have caused the “silence” about singles since they’re probably choosing what’s best from the lot.

    Also, about Neal Tiemann, I think he’s the only one that he’s getting from his old band (which I hate since I wanted Andy Skib to be with him but Andy has To Have Heroes). My take on it he’s worked and collaborated with Neal before and from what I heard from MWK, it’s actually a solid band. SO I think it’s a little smart of David to get an in-house partner-in-crime.

  • hypertwink

    About Daughtry…they may have him but David Cook is the first Rocker Idol so that for me is also making me less concerned about them throwing him under the bus because aside from his future hit/money making potential, AI & 19E want to shout to the mountaintops that they have a rocker in their stable of winners and not just one who they revised history with.

  • FolkFan

    I’ve actually been impressed with the timing of the release of information. A shot appears in EW of him in the studio working seriously on the record. Week or two later, some more information on songwriters with whom he is working. Just when we’re done jawboning about that, release the name of the producer. Once everyone has delved into that piece of information, a blog about setting up the band and identifying one person who is in it. We chatter about that for a few days, then there will be another piece of information dropped. Not sure what that info will be, but my guess is that in 2-3 weeks, we’ll get a single release date.

    Seems like a smart strategy to me for keeping people talking about the record while giving DC, his producer, and his new band time to work on it.

  • yf7184

    I am, however, conflicted about some of the content.
    Having Neal in the band will certainly be comforting for DC and Neal is a very talented musician. But, I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t help but think of Blakeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s band last year, composed of his Seattle buddies. That didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t work out so well. Say what you will about Chrisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ fake band, but his success with that band is undeniable. Neal is the only member mentioned thus far, soà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.. weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll see what happens next. IMO, label guidance is not always a bad thing. Too little creative control for an artist can lead to a Bo Bice situation. Too much control given to an artist can give you a Blake Lewis album (aka – permission to hang yourself in the music industry). The right balance can produce a Kelly, Carrie or Daughtry. Hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hoping Cookie achieves that balance.

    What is important here, at least *to me*, is that David and Neal will make awesome music. The combination of guitar solo and gorgeous voice is to die for. Hopefully the awesome music turns into a commercial success so that they can make more of the awesome music. Sure, there are so many great music makers who do not see commercial success. David was one of them before. However, now that he *got lucky on the show*, he and Neal can sell music now!

  • Michelle

    Seems like a smart strategy to me for keeping people talking about the record while giving DC, his producer, and his new band time to work on it.

    Totally agree. As for Archie debuting a single now, IMO that gives plenty of “space” before whenever they release DC’s single (I’m thinking late Sept/early Oct) so they don’t compete for buzz.

    It really is too early to tell anything right now. From what DC tells us everything’s humming along. We’ll be able to tell more about label support when they start real promo for the single and album.

    I can see where Taylor, Bo and Blake seemed a bit risky musically so they would be hesitant about putting a lot of money behind them. But if we’re being honest here, DC really is Daughtry 2.0 to these guys. They already have the marketing plan written up. If anything they have MORE tools to work with since DC actually won the darned thing.

    The only real wildcard here IMO is the music. If it’s following the ~progression~ we saw from Axium to Analog Heart, then good. If it veers off in some weird direction, probably bad. The writers and producers DC is working with could either be making awesome songs that are commercial hits but still have something interesting and unique to them (good) or they could be pumping out formulaic songs designed to get sales and airplay but still retains the generic altrock label (bad) (Daughtry, IMO) or they could be just making a mish mash of “stuff” that shows glimmers of promise but never quite goes anywhere (worse) (Blake).

  • spritely

    Folkfan, I agree with you about the timing. I think it’s superb, and fits entirely with what we came to expect from The Cook Camp during the show. To wit: keep it secret–while everybody else blabs–and then come out with Bzuh!WTF!Cook! that gets everybody in a lather. . .and then blow everybody away.

    I remind myself: the man’s still got a hit single on the charts! Top 5 on AC, Top 10 on HAC, and Top 40 in, er, Top 40. He breaks nearly every record he comes near, and it would be weird if his trajectory suddenly shifted so far off course that all that changed. He’s still the same talented man with the same great musical judgment, only now he’s got even better quality toys to make his musical visions materialize in the optimum ways.

    Imo, it’s also entirely tactful and proper for him to keep quiet about his own single right now when his friends have theirs coming out. Wouldn’t be nice to step on the Time of Their Lives. :)

  • http://myspace.com/pm68 Pam

    From the news we have gotten lately, I don’t see any evidence that DC is being thrown under the bus because we don’t have single yet. I have to agree with Michelle. I think the true test will ultimately be what kind of promotion the next single gets and also how well the public responds to it.

  • spritely

    I not only don’t see him being thrown under the bus, I see stretch limos coming to pick him up all the time. :)

  • http://myspace.com/pm68 Pam

    I not only donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see him being thrown under the bus, I see stretch limos coming to pick him up all the time. :)

    :D

  • reinharv

    Technically, David Cook already released a single–TOML. I don’t see him being thrown under the bus either. The man had 11 songs at one time on Billboard Top 100 – a record not achieved by anyone since 1964. Within four days after the finale–his digital downloads were almost 1M while Archuleta had only 3 songs on Billboard Top 100 and 1/3 digital sales. Cook has always kept us sitting at the edge of our seats wondering what he was going to do next and he certainly didn’t disappoint me.

    I not only donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see him being thrown under the bus, I see stretch limos coming to pick him up all the time. :)

    I too see stretch limos coming to pick him up and this man will be a new rock superstar. I’d rather he take his time and do good by this album than put out something he’s not satisfied with. He worked The World I Know during the season and delayed performing it until he was satisfield with it. Even Ed Roland said that it was nice to hear a “professional” sing that song. It was fantastic and of all the songs he did–it is my favorite.

    I am not in the least worried about David Cook nor about his album and his fans are willing to wait for it and I know he’ll break another record once it’s released. Nobody has to market David Cook – just the mention of “David Cook” is enough.

  • FolkFan

    The info on the typical RCA pattern with previous Idols is interesting. It also seems possible that the ongoing success of ToML will have an effect on when they release the date of the next single.

  • SilentLucidity

    I not only donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see him being thrown under the bus, I see stretch limos coming to pick him up all the time. :)

    :laugh_tb:. I think ppl are expecting too much from him right now and even if he puts a good album (which is more than i ask for at this point) they may say that it is not good enough. It was the same with his performances in the last weeks of the competition. He did great not jaw dropping performances (with the exception of TWIK) but with high expectations they were only good.

    What im trying to say is if his first post AI album is half as good as analog heart (which is good not great IMO) i will be a very happy cooktard :)

  • http://www.myspace.com/gwendolyndiane GwendolynD

    All I remember is how difficult is was to even get a song spoiler from David Cook before Tuesday night, a couple of hours before show time.

    So….I certainly don’t expect him to blab all of his plans at once. I’m completely grateful that he’s taking his time.

    To me, this is someone who lives to create music, and I don’t think he’ll be too happy with some shabby work.

    Whatever the outcome may be, I think that this “record” will be something that, first and foremost, he’ll be happy with.

    It’s virtually impossible to predict his future success at this point. But, I’m convinced that he’ll give us his best.

    I can’t even muster up any worry. Not right now. Maybe by the beginning of November….

  • Mia

    DC has to overcome the stigma of AI, which is a big handicap in rock genre. A commercial Nickleback record may give him the hits on the charts but may destroy any chance he may have to be taken seriously. This man wants respect of the rock community. I really think he is aiming for a modestly successful but critically praised record. It may be harder rock than Idol. It may have more angsty lyrics and darker tones. I really think that David Archuleta will outsell DC but DC will have the music industry sit up take notice for something groundbreaking. He will be quite content to just earn the chance to make that next record. As much as I look forward to this record, I can’t wait for the record after that.

  • BootStar

    Yeah, I’m not sure what all the angst is about. I’d be much more concerned if TPTB were rushing his first single. If you’ve read anything about Rob Cavallo, it’s clear the guy aims for both commercial and artistic success and David appears to be in the absolute best hands in that regard.

    Archie’s new tune is great if you like that kind of over-processed, instantly-addictive fluff, but that is so not David Cook. Yeah, their respective fan bases may get into another “war,” but neither one of them is going to achieve any genuine level of success if they don’t pick up new fans, and I just don’t see them attracting the same types of listeners.

    David Cook’s iTunes sales were PHENOMENAL throughout the entire season. I never believed, regardless of where he finished in the pack, that 19E would not want to capitalize on that dollar potential.

    And Neal Tiemann appears to be widely respected in music circles apart from David. He has played on a number of studio recordings.

    Maybe I’m old, but I can wait for November. And I, too, am very happy that David keeps information close to the vest. Nothing worse than erroneous leaked information. All it ends up doing is pissing people off. I think they’re doing a masterful job of doling out morsels of information for mass consumption.

  • anijsch

    I think a lot of people still underestimate, how much David is in control about the whole thing and that a lot of what happening is his doing.

    And it started at the show. His song choice has still effects, because incidentally he choose songs from people, he now works with.
    Smart move.

    He can work with his idols, he get out of the Idol bubble and get in touch with their fan bases.

    This whole information policy has Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s handwriting all over it.

    There is no way to guarantee success, but if there is a way to work for it David is on this way.

    They donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t threat his album as an Idol album, so all comparisons are off.
    Because then they would have followed their on script and not his.

    As for Archie

    His single inclined they have gone for nothing else as the typical teenage audience.
    Nothing with make him different from every other singer with this kind of songs.
    And it makes him replaceable with the next young face and a good voice in the foreseeable future.

  • FolkFan

    Mmm. I make no predictions about DA’s future success. I just tend to think that DC’s potential success is independent of DA’s, and that the fact that strategies surrounding the two records are different is not particularly surprising. They are two different artists, with different labels and producers, apparently focusing on at least somewhat different markets. It seems like DA’s fans are happy with the single that was previewed today, so that strategy so far seems to be working. And I have faith that the strategy used for DC will work, because it seems appropriate to him and because I have faith in him.

    I’m just glad to see thus far that DC is getting more say in his record than Bo Bice got in his post-idol record, which bodes well.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    ^^^Folkfan put it very nicely above. Ditto…

    I don’t see any point in making comparisons between Archie and Cookie. They will both have successful, albeit different careers, in my opinion.

    I think the stage is set for Cook to have a successful album with many successful singles, but at this point, I’m careful not to make hyperbolic predictions of success. I don’t expect the album, with Cook working on it here and there in between other obligations, to be some sort of artistic masterpiece. Although I do anticipate good music down the pike.

    Cook has already proven he’s a talented performer/singer and a decent songwriter. I don’t think there’s any cause for alarm at this stage of the game. RCA and 19 are going to do everything in their power to make sure Cook is successful. And with so much going for Cook already, I don’t anticipate things going wrong.

  • sherryw

    I respect everyone’s opinions regarding DC’s future and truly do wish I could share them. I just don’t see much more happening, in all honesty.
    Is it possible for Cook to achieve both commercial success and respect in the industry. Yes, of course it is. Does that mean it will happen? No, it does not.
    It is a requirement that he be able to release a major label album by virtue of winning. It is not a requirement that he be made a priority or even properly promoted. And, from what I have seen thus far, I don’t think he will be.
    At this point, I expect no more than: Radio play and sales for TOML to start decreasing dramatically within the next couple of weeks. There will most likely be virtual silence on the news front through September as the tour finishes up. The Skechers campaign will kick off (but, in essence, that is nothing more than selling shoes). A single will probably be thrown out in late October without a major market debut (sink or swim technique). There will be some promotion before and right after the album release, followed by the tour in the new year. There may be another single released with the same half-hearted technique. He will make an appearance at next year’s finale and it will be done.
    I have seen nothing in seven seasons to make me believe that 19 is capable of focusing on more than one artist at a time and actually making them a success. And it is becoming increasingly obvious that the focus is not on David Cook, as far as they are concerned. When a winner is promoted less than another contestant and thereby outsold, through no fault of their own, they are left to fade into obscurity. So, no, I don’t think the success that he is capable of is at all part of their agenda. I don’t know if Archie will be a huge success either, but at least an effort is being made on that front (not comparing or “hating”, just stating a fact).
    I’m just not expecting anything more than being able to purchase his album and follow his future independent career. If at some point in the near future, gears get switched and a focus is placed on making Cook into the success he is more than capable of being, I will be pleasantly surprised (and I have no problem with that).

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    I’m glad soooo glad we got that out of our systems!

    Because here’s the deal: There are going to be many more posts on Cook and his upcoming album in the next few months and I won’t allow those posts to be hijacked by the same poster and the same subject Every. Single. Fricking. Time.

    Groundhogs Day was a great movie, but I don’t want to live it through my blog.

    Just so you know.

  • sherryw

    Sorry,mj.
    I’ll just keep my mouth shut and pretend everything is peachy.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Sorry,mj.
    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll just keep my mouth shut and pretend everything is peachy.

    I’m just requesting that you stick to the subject of the thread.

    Somehow, every single post on the subject of the Davids’ record releases winds up getting hijacked and turned into the “David Cook is doomed” thread.

    I’ve stated in my guidelines, that I’ll stop conversations that become redundant. This one certainly has.

  • Jolene

    Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll just keep my mouth shut and pretend everything is peachy.

    Why “pretend”? So far everything is peachy. I just don’t see the point in forcing a worst case scenario onto a situation that is anything but.
    Why belabor that point? If things turn sour, we’ll have plenty of time to mope around when it actually happens. But constantly saying it will just dampens the mood with paranoia and concern, when this is otherwise a positive and happy thread – David blogged, David sounds content, David sounds like he’s moving at a good pace towards the goal he set for himself.
    Why the doom and gloom, is what I just can’t wrap my head around. Have a little faith. I believe true talent will prevail. Guess I’m less of a cynic than I thought.

  • hypertwink

    [shallow]Cookie has a talent of surrounding himself with talented and attractive friends. Andy Skib for one, and Neal another. Yes, I find him surprisingly cute, despite my dislike of redheads/very pale skin (this is due to Cookie, I think).[/shallow]

  • Michelle

    Yes, let’s hope he puts together a band of talented hotties with hearts of gold just like him :) ~too good to be true~

  • spritely

    letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hope he puts together a band of talented hotties with hearts of gold just like him :)

    I like the sound of that! There’s his band name: David Cook and The Talented Hotties. :cool2_tb:

  • SilentLucidity

    David Cook and The Talented Hotties

    How about David Cook and his gang of rainbows (NO!) :P

  • spritely

    David Cook and the Rainboys.

    Sorry, couldn’t resist. :)

  • SilentLucidity

    David Cook and the Rainboys

    :lol_tb:

  • SilentLucidity

    Do u think they will market him as a band (a la daughtry) or as a solo artist with the band going with him everywhere like kelly and carrie ?? .. cuz as the AI his name is a brand but from what we heard so far it seems that he is putting a band togther .. hmmmmm

  • Michelle

    He could have his band back him but they just play under his name. Cause you’re right, we’re “branded” to David Cook and he doesn’t have a unique enough name to just make that the bandname like “Daughtry” could.

    My bf suggested just “DC”. Maybe that could work…

  • DivaE

    Every Sunday morning, I catch part of Casey Kasem on the drive to church- and always manage to catch ToML- which is still climbing (last week 10, today 9). I have heard it on the radio here in L.A. (pop radio like MyFm) and in chain sit-down restaurants (which I think is the first place I heard Clay’s “Invisible” back in the day). This single still seems to have some life!

    Can you imagine how exhausted our poor Cookie is? Living on a bus and out of a suitcase is a tiring life (sometimes I’m on the road 8 mos a year)- I can’t imagine also trying to write and record an album, with photo shoots, promo events, phone interviews, and the stylists and the make-up chair… there just isn’t enough hours in the day! That is why I also am not crossing fingers for a magnum opus- but I hope he can put out something he’s proud of (I know Blake was proud of his cd, and was surprised that certain singles on that weren’t pushed to radio). I will buy Cookie’s album and go to his concerts- I’m pretty loyal to my faves (still seeing Depeche Mode and Duran Duran in concert every time they tour, even 25 years later).

    My main hope for the album and working with this producer is that the levels are done well. I find many quickly produced AI albums do not showcase the singer’s voice forward enough in the mix- it is embarrassing some of the mixing that has been sloppily thrown out there on these albums. His voice is so fantastic, we all want to put our headphones on and feel like he’s singing to us. I do think the MCR and Green Day albums really allow us to hear their singers- so I’m very hopeful!

    I hope Archie’s single and album find their audience. So many of the singers/albums that are out in his genre right now are SO underwhelming! He can sing circles around most of them- he just needs to find a stage persona that can carry a live show (I mean, Hannah Montana sells billions, even a live concert movie, and she is not a very good singer as far as “voice” goes.). The Jonas Bros are cute and have a good stage act- Archie is cute and so sincere, we’ll see how he changes as he ages.

    ok- ranting now…

    Go Magic Rainbows!

  • AInoob

    I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t imagine also trying to write and record an album, with photo shoots, promo events, phone interviews, and the stylists and the make-up chairà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ there just isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t enough hours in the day! That is why I also am not crossing fingers for a magnum opus- but I hope he can put out something heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s proud of

    I agree, DivaE, this is why I’m okay with the fact that he may release a single later than my inner fangirl would like. I’d rather he take his time and release music he’s not only proud of, but that does him justice and wasn’t rushed to produce just to strike while the iron is hot (I’m looking at you and your team, Kristy Lee). If I recall correctly, Cookie has said that they’re currently tracking songs and will continue working on that after the tour – so I’m pleased he’ll have more time to settle in and focus on the music once the tour is over.