David Archuleta’s Parents Have Filed For Divorce

I’m not surprised. On one hand, from the impression I get of Jeff, this might be the best decision for the family. But it sure can’t be an easy thing for them. I will keep David, his mother, and his siblings in my thoughts.

It’s not unexpected, I agree. I read the papers. Seems as if Mrs. Archuleta is claiming that Mr. Archuleta lied to the court about his assets and income. She is seeking to vitiate the original settlement. Translation: she wants to start over and reach a more amicable settlement based on newly discovered information since the court’s approval of the original agreement. Whew. Poor David. Hopefully he’ll fly above it all.

I’ll post my clarification here too. In the divorce documents that were posted online, check page 10, number 4 under “child support.” It says that Jeff should pay Lupe a minimum of $349.60 monthly based on what he makes. They have agreed to split other expenses for the kids equally. The media reported it the other way around (Lupe paying Jeff) but that is wrong. I assume it was just a misprint or something.

Also, the National Enquirer is full of shit. David is not taking time off from his career to stay home with his family. He’s been quite active in his career this whole time and just tweeted about his latest writing session in Nashville less than an hour ago.

Right.. national enquirer can shove it. lol

I hate tabloid mags period! I really hate all of this for Archie, his mom, and the rest of his family. Archie is a great kid though and I think he’ll be able to get beyond this with time.

I met David and his father at a radio event in Boston last year. David was absolutely endearing’“sweet as could be. His dad was nice enough, but very oily, you know? He reminded me of a used car salesman.

Yes, I know what you mean by “oily.” I’ve had that impression of him from the beginning. David has flown above this for quite a long while now, and I’m sure (well, hopeful) he will continue to do so. The guy has one heck of a work ethic! Interesting this should happen right as Jeff was involved in the Christmas from the Heart album. He has a habit of pushing himself in the spotlight (fame hog that he is). You never see him involved with his other children either. They will all be better off in the long run. Of course he will continue to be involved with the fam, but at last it will be in some low key manner that we don’t all have to watch and see. I’m surprised Lupe didn’t file though; that still puzzles me as to why. Uh oh, I’m rambling. I see my thoughts are a bit disjointed. Guess I’ll just check in later. Sorry.

Jeff is a dirtbag. Archie seems like a very sweet kid. I know that family strife totally sucks, and I wish the best for David in handling it as best he can.

Jeff is a dirtbag. Archie seems like a very sweet kid. I know that family strife totally sucks, and I wish the best for David in handling it as best he can.

Agreed. Jeff cheated then filed for divorce asking for custody, the house and the kids. And then they settle on what was a lie on his part. And now I see where Lupe is calling him out for hiding income and assets from her (common in divorce proceedings, but disgusting nevertheless), etc. I hope she takes him to the cleaners.

Also, the National Enquirer is full of shit. David is not taking time off from his career to stay home with his family.

you say it as if it would be a BAD thing??!! golly. who knows what he’ll end up doing. maybe he’s recording ’till things get to a point where he can take time off. who knows. anyway, who’s doing the publishing matters not. the meat of the story is the divorce. the court docs speak for themselves. anyway, i’m sure he’ll take care of his mom and his sibs.

Sad if not unexpected news. David’s recent twitters have been the same sort of upbeat check-ins with fans. Think he’ll handle this as well as anyone. He, his siblings and his mom will be in my thoughts.

So sad that this is in the public eye. David doesn’t deserve having his family problems shared with the world. I guess that’s what you sign up for, however, when you sign up for fame.

you say it as if it would be a BAD thing??!! golly. who knows what he’ll end up doing. maybe he’s recording ’till things get to a point where he can take time off.

He has taken time off. Before Nashville, he was at home with his family for almost two weeks in which time he had fun with his friends, practiced his music, and got his wisdom teeth removed. It sucks for David and his family that his parents don’t want to be together but they’ve been dealing with it a long time. It’s probably a relief for them they’re finally getting a divorce.

This is also bad enough without adding misinformation to it. Jeff and Lupe agreed on a fair settlement of joint custody and Jeff agreed to pay child support. Unfortunately, Lupe believes Jeff made more money than he’s claiming. So she had her lawyer postpone the settlement until that’s cleared up. But from what I’ve seen in the documents, Jeff is swearing the majority of the money he made went towards overhead costs and he has much less than she assumes. Whatever. If he’s telling the truth, I assume he has to provide proof. If not, he probably has to pay out much more.

I know David won’t allow his mom or siblings to financially suffer, but it would be a SHAME if Jeff failed to take care of his minor children himself without involving David. It’s Jeff’s responsibility, not David’s. It’s about time Jeff did something right for a change…….supporting his younger children would be a good start.

He, his siblings and his mom will be in my thoughts.

same here… divorce is never easy, regardless of the reason, or who is first to declare the marriage over … been there, done that and have no desire to reenter those waters… hoping david is able to keep his head up through it all, and know that the support of his fans is still right here for him…

on a lighter note – a great review for the christmas cd – from someone who matters, lolol… excerpts below from top40 about.com, read more at the link…

David Archuleta – Christmas From the Heart

David Archuleta Is a Christmas Music Natural

Christmas From the Heart is the second studio album from David Archuleta, and, although it is a holiday collection, it is quite possibly a stronger album achievement than his last. His voice is perfectly suited for this type of material. David Archuleta’s voice is full and tremendously appealing to a wide range of listeners. He can stand up easily to big productions, but he avoids over singing and ever sounding bombastic. Christmas From the Heart is a holiday album you will happily return to in years to come…

David Archuleta’s Solid, Beautiful Voice at Christmas

There are no real missteps here. Christmas From the Heart is simply a solid, pleasing holiday album that will be welcome throughout the season and in years to come. If there is a lesson to learn for David Archuleta, it may be simply that his voice sounds best in the context of simple, uncomplicated accompaniment. Auto-tune and drum machine effects are not needed and likely even detract from a voice like Archuleta’s. He is a very talented traditional singer in the best sense of the term.

http://top40.about.com/od/holidaymusic/fr/davidarchuletachristmas.htm

keep ya head up david…

Sad but as others have said, not unexpected. Keep your head up, Archie.

I just hope both parents won’t fight over Archie, like MacCaulay Culkin’s parents did years ago. They fought over their money-maker son.

Be strong Archie.

I was expecting this at some point. Some things that David has said (and NOT said) in his blogs and tweets have made me suspicious for some time.

Adamme – Archie is an adult. They can’t fight over him legally. Emotionally is another matter. But just from what I know of David (as much as we can really know him)… Mama Lupe wins that contest. No question.

I remember some fansites reporting that David got emotional during a concert in Pennsylvania early on in his solo tour last winter. If I remember correctly, I think they said his eyes teared up as he was singing Angels.

After the story of Jeff’s arrest broke, I have wondered if that was when David found out about what happened with his Dad. Now I wonder if that was when the divorce was filed, or the news was broken to the children.

No matter, my heart and my prayers are with you and your family, David. Be strong and know this is not your burden to bear!

Unfortunately, Lupe believes Jeff made more money than he’s claiming on his side business. So she wants to postpone the settlement until that’s cleared up. But from what I’ve seen in the documents, Jeff is swearing the majority of the money he made in that business went towards overhead costs and he has much less than she assumes.

Jeff stated that his income was $42k. That might have been true last year when he took 3/4 of a year off to work with David on Idol and launch the follow-on tours. David made money on the Idol tour, but Jeff wasn’t part of that deal so he didn’t profit from that.

This year will be a totally different story. David has been touring almost non-stop so his income will run into millions of $ and Jeff gets a percentage of all of it.

But just from what I know of David (as much as we can really know him)’ ¦ Mama Lupe wins that contest. No question.

Glad to hear it and I hope you’re right that Mama Lupe will win that contest. His dad has too much ambition.

The only suprising thing about this is that Dad filed instead of Mom. Divorce is not always a bad thing, sometimes it is a blessing whose time simply took too long. David is an adult, prayers are far more needed for those minor children.

Um… $349 a month and she is a stay-at-home mom. How was this family living? How is she supposed to provide a home for those three minor kids?

I hate that Archie has to deal with this shit…

This is so sad but at the same time I am glad that Lupe is going to get a chance to be happy. I know David is going to take care of the family regardless. I wonder if he will fire his father from being his co-manager in the long run? Jeff is smart to sign on as co-manager. He gets a piece of everything and he really doesn’t have to work for it. With Jeff’s image tarnished now, hopefully David will let his father go. Archie is so strong, he is always smiling and happy. He sure knows how to hide his emotions, I feel for him and his siblings. I hope the divorce doesn’t get ugly. It sucks that this has to happen right when his cd is released.

David and his family have probably been dealing with this issue for months and David is doing fine from all accounts, as is his Mother. There have been family trips and David has maintained his professional schedule, touring all summer, recording his Christmas album, writing for his next pop album and announcing a Christmas tour. Divorce is never easy but I think the family will get through this with a minimum of drama as long as we allow them their privacy. The divorce documents are there for everyone to read. In my opinion I don’t need to speculate about the divorce details. And David is an adult so there is no drama in that area either.

Utah’s most famous American Idol will speak about reaching his dreams during the Annual Conference for Women later this month.

David Archuleta will join former first lady Laura Bush, Utah’s first lady Jeanette Herbert and pianist Roger Williams at this year’s conference, which is sponsored by Sen. Orrin Hatch and his wife Elaine.

‘I am so pleased that David Archuleta was able to fit this conference into a demanding concert schedule,’  Orrin Hatch said. ‘He is an unbelievable talent and a special performer who has a great story to share.’ 

The Murray teen will address the morning keynote session on how he ‘accomplished reaching his dreams, while staying grounded in life.’  He was the runner-up during the seventh season of the popular ‘American Idol’  TV show and is currently preparing for a winter concert headlining tour featuring songs from his newly-released Christmas album.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705337060/David-Archuleta-to-speak.html

It’s not David’s place to take take of his mother and younger siblings. His mom can get a job, like a lot of women who have found themselves divorcing have done, and his Dad can also do something besides sponge off David. If someone is not looking out for David’s interests he will find himself like Fantasia did, owing thousands of dollars in back taxes, because someone failed to handle his business affairs properly.

Sounds like Jeff had a tantrum and filed for divorce when Lupe didn’t buy the “wrong place, wrong time” explanation. She can do better and seems like a nice enough lady.

And Jeff might have made more money with his own business if he actually tried. Instead he’s been leeching off his son and being the ultimate stage parent. Go get a real job Jeff. For that matter Lupe should too. Her kids are old enough and she shouldn’t be living off her son either, even if he doesn’t mind.

Did I miss the news story that says David is supporting his whole family? Please link your sources. Thank you.

Um’ ¦ $349 a month and she is a stay-at-home mom. How was this family living? How is she supposed to provide a home for those three minor kids?

Yeah, that seems like a pittance. But they both waived alimony payments in the original settlement from this year and agreed to split the costs on all other expenses for the kids. They’re also selling the house and splitting the profits. Lupe agreed to all of this and then her lawyer filed to halt the settlement back in July because she discovered he had assets she wasn’t aware of. My guess is her lawyer did some investigating maybe? But Jeff signed a notarized affidavit explaining why his profits were much less after overhead costs than the gross profit would indicate. This all happened in July and it’s been another three months. The timing of the leak from the media is curious.

As much as I hate to admit that I read the divorce papers, Jeff states there that he has 2 businesses: one consulting company which has a net worth of zero and another company which manages artists. In 2007, he supported the family by refinancing the home. Of course, the businesses did better in 2008 and 2009 (managing David and/or his other business gaining customers b/c of his popular son). So, I’m assuming (yes still an assumption) that David is supporting the family, either directly or indirectly.

Good luck to Lupe and the kids. I think David will be fine with it all. He seems like a wise young man with his head on straight. It’s their problem, not his.

My first reaction was … hey, Rick Springfield can ask Lupe out now. Didn’t he say she was hot?

I am not troubled with Jeff Archuleta being David’s co-manager. I also don’t think it is fair to characterize this relationship as “leeching” Parents managing their children does not appear to be that uncommon with singers. I think Justin Timberlake is managed by his mother. I think the Jonas Brothers are managed by their father. Beyonce is managed by her father. These artists have all been pretty successful. Jeff seems to have played a pretty big role in the Christmas album and everyone seems to love the album. David seems to enjoy having his dad as manager. So whatever else you can criticise Jeff Archuleta for, I don’t think that there is really a reason to criticise him for being David’s co-manager.

My first reaction was ‘ ¦ hey, Rick Springfield can ask Lupe out now. Didn’t he say she was hot?

Lupe might be single again but Rick is married. lol

I am not troubled with Jeff Archuleta being David’s co-manager. I also don’t think it is fair to characterize this relationship as ‘leeching’  Parents managing their children does not appear to be that uncommon with singers. I think Justin Timberlake is managed by his mother. I think the Jonas Brothers are managed by their father. Beyonce is managed by her father. These artists have all been pretty successful. Jeff seems to have played a pretty big role in the Christmas album and everyone seems to love the album. David seems to enjoy having his dad as manager. So whatever else you can criticise Jeff Archuleta for, I don’t think that there is really a reason to criticise him for being David’s co-manager.

I really have to disagree with you. True, many parents manage their kids careers but not in the sense that Jeff has. You don’t see those parents doing stuff like this. Since David’s days on Idol, Jeff has clearly been a control freak, heck he made his kid cry and withheld water from him. That isn’t right. This whole thing isn’t right.

Jeff was involved with the album it seemed like until the prostitution stuff broke in June. I don’t think you can say that David seems happy with his father as co-manager. He literally has not mentioned his dad in months or had him anywhere close to his career. Just my thoughts though.

Lupe might be single again but Rick is married.

Boo. What is a married man doing calling another woman “hot”!

heck he made his kid cry and withheld water from him. That isn’t right. This whole thing isn’t right.

David has said many times that that never happened.

I’m sorry to read about this. I was the same age as his littlest sister when my parents divorced. It’s better for the parents in the end but it’s really hard to know how to be with them when you’re the kid. I’m sorry for them.

Does anyone know if David’s older sister is in college?

David has said many times that that never happened.

True, true. Not that I’m saying I don’t believe David, because I’m a huge fan of his, but things like that tend to be based in a degree of truth. Regardless though, there are plenty of other reasons to criticize Jeff’s managing of David’s career.

It’s very easy to “guess” what goes on behind close doors…and no one knows “how David feels”. I went through a divorce when my kids were 9 and 12 (similar to D’s siblings)…it’s never easy on the kids. It’s gonna be worse for them because of the things people say, who have no idea what is going on, but talk like they know. It’s no ones business but David’s how he chooses to do things. He’s smarter than people give him credit for.

You don’t see those parents doing stuff like this. Since David’s days on Idol, Jeff has clearly been a control freak, heck he made his kid cry and withheld water from him. That isn’t right. This whole thing isn’t right.

For the record, David has said the water thing is blatantly untrue several times, including Larry King Live.

Also, Britney’s father, Beyonce’s father, Jessica’s Simpson’s father are all hated and gossiped about by fans too. I think Beyonce’s dad and the JoBro’s dad both do a heck of a job managing their kids though. Just saying.

My problem with Jeff beyond whatever character flaws he has is controversy and scandal seem to follow him and that’s been a liability to David. It undermines what he wants to keep the focus on, which is music. That’s the part that really sucks.

Then again, many celebrities, like Britney Spears, seem to thrive on scandals and they come back stronger for it. It gives them an added edge.

That’s just saying though that two wrongs make a right. What positive has come from Jeff as co-manager? I can’t think of one unless people saying they wouldn’t buy David’s Christmas cd if Jeff was credited on it.

David seems to enjoy having his dad as manager.

What makes you think that?

Regarding Jeff’s management of David, I don’t know how we can really judge how well he might be doing his job. That’s up to David.

hopefully David will let his father go.

Can you imagine having to fire your own father? I’m surprised at how tough everyone is being on Jeff. He may not be a completely incompetent manager. (What do we know really about his job performance?)

What positive has come from Jeff as co-manager?

How could any one of us possibly know that unless we also work with David?

Well, maybe this explains why the Fans of David website cancelled a webchat with Jeff.

So whatever else you can criticise Jeff Archuleta for, I don’t think that there is really a reason to criticise him for being David’s co-manager.

Except that his professional involvement in David career brings negative publicity. Sure it’s publicity, but not the kind that David wants. Whenever Jeff’s name is mentioned in the press you can bet that it’s not for good things. This distracts from anything that David is doing, so how is this good PR and management?

If it’s David’s decision to let Jeff continue to co-manage, that’s his decision. I don’t understand it, but it’s David’s choice. Why I am critical of Jeff as co-manager is that he is not doing what is best for David professionally. Given the arrest and now divorce, is he staying in the background to protect David? No. He continues to stay in the public eye, talking to David’s fans and doing live chats on David’s fan sites.

Yeah, the Christmas album is good, but what is everyone talking about right now? It sure isn’t just how lovely the album is. It’s Jeff.

How could any one of us possibly know that unless we also work with David?

Public perception is important though, and he hasnt brought any good public perception for David. Again just my opinion.

Yeah, the Christmas album is good, but what is everyone talking about right now? It sure isn’t just how lovely the album is. It’s Jeff.

I will say this, I havent seen any mention of Jeff in regards to the album since it was released. Hopefully this will just blow away from the public eye like the arrest thing did…I mean some folks were calling it “the end of david’s career.” Clearly that wasn’t the case.

“Public perception is important though”

id agree with that. its not always what actually does or does not go on, but what the public perceives…

The album was released on the 13th. Now just days later with the album just starting to get reviews, news of the divorce and re-hash of the arrest are the main headline and somewhere in those articles the writers may or may not mention that oh yeah, by the way, David has also released a Christmas album.

What is with these leaks happening before David embarks on something big in his career? First the summer tour and now his album…

Sad that such a sweet boy has to go through this. Keeping Lupe, David and his siblings in my prayers.

Very sad. I mean sad for the family. Whatever the problem, splitting up is difficult for children. I hope David is okay.

I just don’t think it’s EVER a good idea for a family member to manage someone. You want the freedom to change management if your career needs to go a new direction. You want the freedom to disagree with your manager if you don’t feel right about professional choices. I don’t care if it’s your husband or your wife or your mom or your dad — you need an advocate who is NOT them, and you need the strength to be in charge of your own career. That is 100 times harder if it’s someone who’s related to you.

Plus, in this case, David has to feel some anger at his father over the breakup of the marriage, given the massage parlor and all. How can he keep any of those feelings out of his professional life with his dad?

Yeah, I’m sticking with my feeling that your dad, your mom, your sister, your brother, your kid, your significant other… Should NOT be your manager or your agent or your boss.

And just whose fault is it that everyone’s talking about Jeff? Why, whadya know?! I’d say it’s Jeff’s fault, and Jeff’s fault, alone! Duh, ya think??

Ok, why does this site enjoy broadcasting David’s parents relationship? This site was the first to broadcast the incident with Jeff, now this? I haven’t seen any controversial sharings of other Idols I don’t think. I just wish it would stick with the artistic stuff and not the personal stuff. This seems a bit off topic. I know David is not high on MJ’s like list, but, please, show a little compassion. He deserves better. This really has nothing to do with him.

And we don’t really know ANYTHING about Lupe. So I really think branding Jeff as such is really not a good thing. The only person who has any knowledge is David. And he has only said good things about both. Just because Jeff gets overly involved with David, and has really made alot of his career possible? He has character flaws. How many of us don’t? I have flaws I deal with every day. I wish I was a better parent. Jeff Archuleta has probably done a much better job as a parent than most parents in America today. But, because he is a christian, and has a very conservative, religious, good kid as a son, he gets ripped when he doesn’t live up to standard. When someone who is not religious makes the same mistakes, they get applauded, promoted, and welcomed! THAT IS WHAT IS HYPOCRITICAL!

And by the way, how many other Idols have divorced parents or have parents who are not living up to the standards we hold or Idols who have done some pretty stinky things? Right! We don’t really care do we?

I love the descriptive word…”oily.” He looked like trouble and I feel sorry for the kids.

I met him at several of the tour stops last year and also found him to be a bit “oily”. Also found him to be way too interested in all of the young girls who were there to see David. Something just kind of icky about him. He was nice enough, just not genuine. It is sad for David though who was the sweetest kid in the world to the fans.

Ok, why does this site enjoy broadcasting David’s parents relationship? This site was the first to broadcast the incident with Jeff, now this? I haven’t seen any controversial sharings of other Idols I don’t think. I just wish it would stick with the artistic stuff and not the personal stuff. This seems a bit off topic. I know David is not high on MJ’s like list, but, please, show a little compassion. He deserves better. This really has nothing to do with him.

And we don’t really know ANYTHING about Lupe. So I really think branding Jeff as such is really not a good thing. The only person who has any knowledge is David. And he has only said good things about both. Just because Jeff gets overly involved with David, and has really made alot of his career possible? He has character flaws. How many of us don’t? I have flaws I deal with every day. I wish I was a better parent. Jeff Archuleta has probably done a much better job as a parent than most parents in America today. But, because he is a christian, and has a very conservative, religious, good kid as a son, he gets ripped when he doesn’t live up to standard. When someone who is not religious makes the same mistakes, they get applauded, promoted, and welcomed! THAT IS WHAT IS HYPOCRITICAL!

And by the way, how many other Idols have divorced parents or have parents who are not living up to the standards we hold or Idols who have done some pretty stinky things? Right! We don’t really care do we?

MJs was not the first to cover this in June. Yes your right, it is a private matter, but Jeff has made it public by being directly involved with David’s career. No one here is saying they don’t have character flaws, we all do, I do. But we’re not affiliated with high profile celebrities. We are not condemning David here or saying anything about him. Yes there is a double standard when it comes to people of faith, but I really don’t think that is an issue here. Are you saying we should give Jeff a free pass?

We don’t care in other Idols’ cases because their parent is co-managing a money making career.

Stan, I’m getting the distinct feeling that David is the way he is because of his lovely mother. And despite his father. Additionally, I come from a place where actions have consequences. You cheat on me, you may or may not get back in my good graces. It’s my decision, and mine alone. However, know this: things will never be the same. Not completely so. And in my world, if you lie to me, I will call you on it. And I may forgive, but I will not be so trusting next time. And if you steal from me, I will prosecute. If you hurt my family, you will be punished. And if you happen to combine a few of these indiscretions into one, sordid package–I dunno, say, cheat on me, humiliate me in front of millions, hide money from me, lie to the court to try and deprive me of what’s rightfully 1/2 mine–well, then not only are you going to get exactly what you deserve in a court of law, you’re going to be shunned by your family, extended family and friends both far and wide.

Looks like David A is having fun today. Per his tweet a few minutes ago
“Went with Matt Wertz to the Mat Kearney Concert. Good stuff”

BTW, Matt Wertz is one if the peeps David had a writing session with today.

Good for you David.

^^

His earlier exercise tweet from this morning made Access Hollywood’s Tweet of the Day today. LOL

Me working on chest, shoulders, and triceps = sad lol.

Jeff Archuleta has probably done a much better job as a parent than most parents in America today.

We have no way of knowing whether that’s true. I personally doubt it.

But, because he is a christian, and has a very conservative, religious, good kid as a son, he gets ripped when he doesn’t live up to standard. When someone who is not religious makes the same mistakes, they get applauded, promoted, and welcomed! THAT IS WHAT IS HYPOCRITICAL!

I don’t applaud, promote, or welcome it when non-religious people makes the mistakes Jeff has allegedly made.

Jeff Archuletta always gave me the creeps, so when he was caught getting a happy ending, I wasn’t surprised. I’m a little shocked that he’s the one who filed, but I wish the best for David, his mom, and the other kids. I also hope David realizes that having his Dad so involved with his career isn’t a great idea. He’s of age now, so…

Well, with all of these I’m sure there are still lots of kids who would trade places with David in an instant. So, in the giant scheme of things, it is not that bad. Looking at the glass half full.

Is it a surprise? Half of families in US experience divorce and it’s becoming a norm. Many idols are from divorce families, too. I think it’s good for Lupe after all. David loves Lupe and when he talks about his mom, his face always radiates with joy. David will accept the fact that things happen for reason and it’s not his power to change the situation. His fans haven’t noticed any changes from David, meaning he is dealing with it pretty well. The divorce papers were dated in February and the family has been experiencing it. David still appreciated his dad for the album making in the CD liner notes.

David A is a BB, and a kind, sensitive and humble kid with a great talent!I think we all heard about Jeff Archuleta during AI competition. A real
cliche of a stage parent who had to be reined in more than once,barring him from some of the rehersals for making outrageous demands of David re how he should sing his songs…To give him credit, he did help keep david singing and training but we were not privey toanything, but inuendo, from the rag tag press.
I very much doubt that David would ever speak ill of either parent no
matter what comes out in the news.
As for Senior Archuleta…….well……Karma????

Since I first saw the news, I felt bad for David and his siblings.

This was not the first place I saw this story so I’m not surprised to see it here.

I was surprised skeezy Jeff will be getting child support from Lupe and she gets one less day per week than he does. That does not seem like the norm at all. I don’t know if or what career she has.

I think David will be fine. All indications are, given that the initial divorce filing happened years ago and that this latest set of incidents took place earlier in the year, the family has been dealing with turmoil off and on for a while. David has always maintained a positive outlook, stuck to his schedule and obligations, gone above and beyond with his fans, and maintained an admirable sense of decorum and restraint. All this tells me he is a very strong young man and has ample inner resources upon which to rely to see him through this. If anything, David’s father should be looking to HIM as a role model.

I do not expect David to address this at all, nor should he have to. Hopefully the press and interviewers will respect his privacy–one can hope.

I don’t know Jeff personally but my late husband did. They worked together at one time in national youth organization. And my husband did not have any kind words to say about the man. So when he showed up on AI and the rumours started, we weren’t surprised.

My concern is with the many very active fans in David’s fan community that are still champions of Jeff and continue to “promote” him. Having Jeff as a manager is between Jeff and David, but the fact that Jeff used this as a means to personal ego stroking just makes me sad. And the fans who prominently displayed their “hugging” pictures with Jeff and their thrill at receiving an autograph from this man and their little asides that “knowing” Jeff was getting them into special David events became more than I could handle.

David’s fandom should be all about David, as should his career. I wish some of his very vocal fans had never taken up the Jeff banner, for this will always leave a bad taste in my mouth. Oh well spilt milk and all. Hopefully everyone will back off now and David can continue with his career without all these albatrosses around his neck. I really do like the Kid and really love his voice and I sincerely want him to succeed.

I am guessing David gets all his good genes from his mom. It almost seems unreal that David, the sweetest kid on earth, shares the same DNA with such a skeezy guy like Jeff. Just doesn’t match up.

I know David is not high on MJ’s like list…

This has nothing to do with personal feelings. Any and all idol news is reported here for the most part. And anyway, even if MJ did not like David during his run on Idol, I haven’t seen anything but positive things from her regarding David since he’s been off the show.

My concern is with the many very active fans in David’s fan community that are still champions of Jeff and continue to ‘promote’  him. Having Jeff as a manager is between Jeff and David, but the fact that Jeff used this as a means to personal ego stroking just makes me sad.

There are two sides to every fanbase. Just as there are David fans who will give Jeff the benefit of the doubt and continue to support him since he’s David’s dad and someone involved in David’s career, and even claim to like him, there are just as many fans who can’t stand the guy. David still has a large fan subset on IDF and the vast majority there would love to see Jeff fade into the background permanently. They rant and rave anytime he’s anywhere near the spotlight. FOD is probably the opposite of that in that they prefer to stay in a bubble and only accentuate the positive while ignoring or refusing to comment on the negative. It apparently works for them so I don’t bother to concern myself about it.

I was surprised skeezy Jeff will be getting child support from Lupe and she gets one less day per week than he does. That does not seem like the norm at all. I don’t know if or what career she has.

Except neither of those things are true. As I clarified on the previous page, Jeff is the one who has to pay child support. They are also given equal time with the kids. It’s all there on page 10. If not for the financial disagreement from the two parties about Jeff’s actual income, it’s a fair divorce settlement to both parents and the kids.

Wishing Archie the very best. He’s not the first kid to see his parents divorce, and he won’t be the last. And I’ll bet he writes some great music in the future as he fleshes out all the emotions.

What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger.

And the fans who prominently displayed their ‘hugging’  pictures with Jeff and their thrill at receiving an autograph from this man and their little asides that ‘knowing’  Jeff was getting them into special David events became more than I could handle.

I’m confused as to why anyone would want this loser’s autograph. How could that possibly be a desirable thing?

I’m confused as to why anyone would want this loser’s autograph. How could that possibly be a desirable thing?

It takes all kinds… Plus, Jeff, for all his rubbing people the wrong way, attracting scandals, and being oily, is a chatty, friendly guy who has no problems mingling in social situations and that makes him polarizing. People like that. Also, many Idol family members get asked for autographs. Furthermore, the last time the fans had that kind of access to Jeff was probably during the part of the solo tour he was present for back in March before the massage parlor scandal broke. In recent history, he has not been at any of David’s public appearances or the Demi tour, and he rarely travels with David these days anymore, if at all.

This newest “leak” just further proves why it’s wiser for Jeff to continue to keep out of the public eye. Sure, the divorce was a logical conclusion to the arrest and the legalities they’re dealing with are standard stuff, but it’s embarrassing that everyone has access to such personal info about the lives of David’s family. I’m sure that’s the last thing he’d want drawn attention to and yet I’m sure he also understands it’s the price of fame and out of his hands.

And the fans who prominently displayed their ‘hugging’  pictures with Jeff and their thrill at receiving an autograph from this man and their little asides that ‘knowing’  Jeff was getting them into special David events became more than I could handle.

It’s old news now. I don’t think any of fans want their hugging pictures with Jeff any more. He disappeared pretty much after the news in June. But Jeff actually helped fans a lot to accomodate for them to see David. Especially fans who had physically disabled or had difficulties to meet David. They would ask for help to Jeff and he couldn’t just ignore in certain situations.

I am not trying to defend him. But people make mistakes just like you and me, and we often judge people by their mistakes. Hope Jeff won’t make any more mistakes and learns from his own son.

Jeff never approached fans for pictures. The fans approached him. What to do? When Lupe was at a few concerts, fans approached her and she obliged and gave “hug” photos. Band members took pics with fans and got hugs, and David got photos with fans and got or gave hugs.
A hug photo is very normal. The fact that Jeff was around so often may have bugged some. Whatever! It’s over now! I think Jeff got the hint! He’s done a pretty good job of staying in background since and still be able to work on this album. That is how it should be and has been since earlier this year!

Saw this on Rickey’s:

“Jeff DID NOT ask for child support. Radar didn’t read the whole thing before stating something WRONG. The first 7 pgs are all preliminary stuff. Page 8 has the agreed to items laid out. Page 10, it states very clearly that Jeff is to pay Lupe the $349.

Radar needed to do some research and read things BEFORE they post, because now everyone else will just repost what they posted and be completely WRONG.”

MJ CAN YOU PLEASE RETRACT!!??

Jeff never approached fans for pictures. The fans approached him. What to do?

What to do? He could have not been so physically close to the fans. He was always near the line where David was autographing and such with the fans, always close by. Always TOO assessable. As I see it, he was there for attention for himself! Hey, fans would not have approached him or even looked for him if he had HUNG BACK or STAYED on the BUS. He didn’t need to be out there. You saw Jeff in the background on red carpets. Often in pictures of David you’d see Jeff-O hovering in the near distance. TOTALLY unnecessary! Geez, and SITTING with his son at the TCA. Again, if he had to be there, why not just sit back in the audience somewhere. Jeff liked the spotlight on him. Was living vicariously probably. David and Jeff will always have their father/son relationship, but for David’s professional dealings, I hope Jeff gets out of the picture and stays out. He’s totally controversial and a troublesome distraction. Enjoy David during your personal family time, holidsays or whatever, but PLEASE, go get your own career going Mr. Jeff. Stop trying to “rear” an adult son. He’s doing fine. Bottom line, your reputation is shot. We (most of us) are weary of seeing or hearing about you. Go awayyyyyyyyyyyy.

My thing is that David doesn’t need any more parenting. He’s a perfect son. Jeff needs to start hovering around Daniel and work on parenting him.

As for Jeff and the fans. He definitely enjoyed it all a little too much. Manager or no manager, commingling with the fans looked bad. Especially to fans who weren’t “in” with the family like some other fans. My wish is that he resign as David’s manager or that David let’s him go somehow, and that he goes back to Utah full-time to help raise the other children. THAT is his job.

My thing is that David doesn’t need any more parenting. He’s a perfect son. Jeff needs to start hovering around Daniel and work on parenting him.

As for Jeff and the fans. He definitely enjoyed it all a little too much. Manager or no manager, commingling with the fans looked bad. Especially to fans who weren’t “in” with the family like some other fans. My wish is that he resign as David’s manager or that David let’s him go somehow, and that he goes back to Utah full-time to help raise the other children. THAT is his job.

This is way old news to most Utah fans. I don’t know if David’s parents have been good parents, but David seems to be one of those rare, really good people who was going to turn out well no matter what his situation. His dad has said this to many fans when they have asked him what he did to raise such a good son.

I won’t pretend to be close to the family or drop names, but from what I hear among people who seem to know what goes on, this situation has been very hard on David, but he has learned to deal with it and has found peace about it.

David is an adult now and is making his own decisions (some upcoming ones that may not be very popular among some fans) and managing his life the way he wants to, choosing to include his parents, but I would prefer we discuss David’s life and not his father’s and mother’s life.

“some upcoming ones that may not be very popular among some fans”

Well, there’s a comment to get a fan’s thoughts going. Maybe you know something you don’t want to say. I know David inspires fan loyalty (I feel it too) and won’t ask.

But I’ve got a whole list of ideas about what these decisions might include — interesting.

KathyH,

;)