David Archuleta – Touch My Hand – VIDEO

Yeah im thinking it may be for over seas use since quite a few of those countries play TMH especially the asian countries.

I luv it! Go David! Can’t wait to see you on Wednesday night!

I agree this video is targeting young teen girls. Archie looks great throughout, there is no smile that even comes close to an Archie smile. I like the look of the video, black and white, then splashes of color, and the live ending.

Whatever it’s for, I really like it. Charming, young, and fun.

really looking forward to seeing him on idol weds night!!

Maybe Jive decided to release TMH as a single after all? Maybe they aren’t done with this era yet. I guess we’ll know if he sings it on Idol in two days. I think this song is so much better than ALTNOY, btw.

there is no smile that even comes close to an Archie smile

Gotta love that smile, luckeee55.

And I’m with Houstonrufus: I’m charmed by the video, whatever it’s intent.

there is no smile that even comes close to an Archie smile.

None comes close.

A few days ago on snarky’s, they said he would be singing TMH on AI Wednesday, but you never know when you hear these rumors whether they are true.

I think it would be a good choice if Archie sings TMH on Idol and launches it as the new single for him. It’s more fun and upbeat, and will show the Idol audience a different side, I think. But then again, I personally like ALTNOY, so maybe the non-teeny bopper audience will connect more with that performance? Either way, it’ll be fun to see Archie back on stage and it’ll do good things for him .

this video proves to anyone with eyes that david is not the same performer he was last year on idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.. it distills and crystallizes one years worth of his progression and growth from the idol stage to a most dynamic live performer…. his physical and artistic maturity, touring experience and seasoning is all here in 4 minutes of pure viewing pleasureà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

i like the way it totally captures the fun, the energy and excitement of the crowd inside and outside the house of blues, and the use of black and white instead of color is just greatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.. it lends the video a little grit and edge and i like it

thumbs up david :thumbup_tb: you’ve got us all stoked for your return to idol wednesday……

I think this song is so much better than ALTNOY, btw.

Interesting that you say that Jolene because I’m seeing that a lot. I always thought he would get massacred by ppl if he released that but I’ve come around and I see lots of songs out that are far more teen sounding. Honestly, (don’t hurt me Kelly fans.. I’m one myself) I think both of her songs released sound like something a teen would sing and she gets away with it.

This video is fun for the fans to remember his concerts by.

Wow, I like that video. Thanks MJ.

ICG yeah there are far more teen sounding songs imo. lol Like take Taylor swift for example.. singing about princesses and princes and stuff.

Nice to see him having fun. I like this upbeat song, too. Hope he sings this on idol instead of ALTNOY, which is seriously boring, IMO. Even better would be YEDL or Barriers.

Nice video! He continues to improve on stage, and I really enjoy watching his career progress.

YEDL gets no love *tear*

I think it would be a good choice if Archie sings TMH on Idol and launches it as the new single for him.

I really won’t understand Jive’s strategy if this song is announced on Idol as the new single. Shouldn’t it have a radio impact date? Also, why would Jive wait all this time between Altnoy’s demise and the release of a new single? The timing just seems way off. Maybe they will see how the audience will react to it on Idol and take it from there.

I like the melody on this song, but I do find the lyrics geared toward the teen audience. Definitely seems like a Disney type song and video. Not my cup of tea, but I am not the target demographic. Looking forward to his performance on Wednesday. I love seeing all the old idols come back for the results shows. Best improvement AI has made this year IMO.

Why do I have tears in my eyes after watching that video? It took me totally by surprise. Yes, it will be good to see him on the AI stage again.

I’ve always been a semi-Archie fan. Didn’t like the gaspiness at times or his stage presence. Loved the person though.

But this video is just wow. Great concept. Great visuals. Catchy song. The voice sounds gorgeous. His looks so comfortable up there. Massive improvement.

I’m excited to see him perform on Idol. I hope good things continue to happen for him.

I love seeing all the old idols come back for the results shows. Best improvement AI has made this year IMO.

Absolutely! ITA! More past idol contestants and winners coming back to sing is such an improvement. After all, we’ve followed these kids for years now, so of course we want to see them perform some of their current songs!

Anxious to see Archuleta this week!

Laurel, he is a much better performer now that he has had some experience. Hopefully his nerves won’t get to him Wednesday and he can show how much.

I really love David’s voice and I think his performance level and his ability to capture an audience has grown by leaps and bounds. I just hope that he doesn’t get swallowed up by the demographic and the genre’ that he and his peep have chosen to market, and market heavily. Hopefully he will see enough profit from his many ventures to be able to take some time off after this initial wave to step back and rethink his goals and priorities. I haven’t made any secret of my distaste for the teeny bopper market, it is just over commercialized and all about show rather than content. If he makes another album with the lyrical dribble of his self-titled album then I will really worry about his future. The boy meets girl, boy loves girl, boy looses girl stick is OK as an occasional song…but not for 90% of an album. Happily, the bonus tracks showed a side of David that may have good adult marketability down the road.

I just hope all of this is just a phase and that he doen’t become a 22 year old Zak Ephron playing a 17 year old. Looking young is one thing, acting young is another.

Shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it have a radio impact date? Also, why would Jive wait all this time between Altnoyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s demise and the release of a new single? The timing just seems way off.

Yeah I’d think if there were releasing it as a single here in the US there would be some other indication other than a vid and a possible performance on AI(who knows if he is actually singing it on idol).

Archie seems like a great kid, but holy crap this song is dumb. The video’s not too bad though. But, that Build a Bear song is deeper than this crap.

that boy has a serious case of adorables. I can’t wait to see him on May. btw he’s a total pro working that stage in that video! love it when he gets all hyped up on “don’t let the music stop”
that said – gahhh, i don’t know why this is the third single. can’t believe they did not release barriers. that song had so much potential.

Tess, I’ve seen you state that and I wouldn’t worry. The songs that David wrote himself was miles better than the songs Jive gave him. He and Jeff tried to get Works For Me on the cd instead of Yedl for example. .. He IS a teengager and will be marketed to them . We just have to have patience and wait it out for awhile. Though I like his songs so I’m not suffering.

Nice video. Sometimes the best videos are the simplest, here it’s just David A singing to his adoring fans. Should have been the second single.

I like the melody on this song, but I do find the lyrics geared toward the teen audience.

At his concerts, it is dark and David comes running out to a roar from the audience as he start this. It is an incredible opening to a concert and everyone there loves the song and incredible energy and seems to be able to relate to it, so I can’t agree that it is only geared toward or at least only appeals to teens.

This is a fan video from House of Blues- the same place they took the above video from. It is amazing- you can hardly hear him for the screaming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KcQz57M_4k

I just noticed that at about 2:05-2:08 DA touches the camera girl’s hand and she puts the comment, “this is the moment that made my life complete”. funny.

But, that Build a Bear song is deeper than this crap.

LOL. No, it’s really not.

Shoot me but I like this song. Hee. I adore Archie (can’t help it) and I am really excited about seeing him next month.

YEDL gets no love *tear*

It does from me. Hee (again). Does he ever sing it at his shows? I’d love to hear it in Manila.

The songs that David wrote himself was miles better than the songs Jive gave him. He and Jeff tried to get Works For Me on the cd instead of Yedl for example.

I for one love YEDL, although I’d prefer if it didn’t have the stupid whistling. LOVE Works for Me! (ALTNOY, not so much.)

I for one love YEDL, although Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d prefer if it didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have the stupid whistling. LOVE Works for Me! (ALTNOY, not so much.)

Hearing David sing this song live in SLC, including the whistling, really made me LOVE this song!!

YEDL gets no love *tear*

I for one love YEDL, although Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d prefer if it didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have the stupid whistling. LOVE Works for Me! (ALTNOY, not so much.)

It does… all my love this weekend was for YEDL… I wish that YEDL were the next single… and TMH will be used for international, Asia fans… BTW wasn ´t MH being play in ASIA too????

“But, that Build a Bear song is deeper than this crap.”

Sure, it’s pretty bland but David gives it a certain glow. And, I’d argue that it’s better still than this crap one can here on today’s Top 40: “Shsh girl, Shut your lips, Do the Helen Keller, And talk with your hips”.

And, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d argue that ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s better still than this crap one can here on todayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Top 40: à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Shsh girl, Shut your lips, Do the Helen Keller, And talk with your hipsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

LOL Anya! That song is not only stupid but it’s actually insulting. Yea, top 40 is really bad.. Boom Boom Pow.. oy

I love the whistling in Yedl! It cracks me up that it is David doing it on the cd!

I had so much fun watching David A. sing this song. He may even overshadow David C. as Clay did Ruben with his carer. Coming in 2nd may be a good luck charm!

My only concern is that the song seems like stalker-bait. He may come to regret singing it frequently if a look from Archie in an unstable teen’s direction fuels their fantasies.

celeste, My Hands was played on a japanese radio station.

I luv this vid. Someone told me that this song was written just for Archie using his words. When I watch Archie’s face I can see it is true. He feels the song and he glows.

It’s fun and it is full of luv.

Archie does have “The Best Smile”. :smile_wp:
This vid is full of his winning smile. lol It makes me sooooooooo happy! :clap_tb:

My Hands was played on a japanese radio station.

Seeeeee America….play it….that song is awesome…. oh well I guess it could have being worse they could have made a “dark video” for Desperate…I wish Save the Day will get realease some day…I really like that song…

Archie does have à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The Best Smileà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

He won the Best Smile in TCA last year!!!!

Love it, love it, love it! Can’t wait to see him no matter what he sings! And, completely agree about the smile–none better!

He’s so precious. Love him, love the video… that transition to a live clip at the end was a really nice touch.

I didn’t really think much of TMH when I heard it for the first time, but it’s definitely grown on me since then. It really is the perfect concert opener for David.

^^ It’s one of those songs that is meant to be live. The actual recording doesn’t do it justice, although I do love the recording as well.

I think he sings this song Live better than studio version

Love it! it reminds me of the reno concert! good times!

but at the end they didnt do it justice: IT IS WAY LOUDER THAN THAT ha ha

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve always been a semi-Archie fan. Didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like the gaspiness at times or his stage presence. Loved the person though.

But this video is just wow. Great concept. Great visuals. Catchy song. The voice sounds gorgeous. His looks so comfortable up there. Massive improvement.

LaurelG, you make me get all teary-eyed! I am so proud of him!!!

^^ I love My Hands and Save the Day too. I hope they’ll include the latter song on his second album.

David has the most heart-warming smile I’ve ever seen and what’s even better is that he so generously gives it out every where he goes and to everyone he meets.

My guess is that they will take snippets from this video to create a video montage of David’s post-idol career thus far. Do you guys remember that other video montage that they created for him a few months ago? It was also black and white. They might take parts of that and add this HOB appearance to it. Ryan would then present this montage on Wednesday when he introduces David just before he steps out onto the Idol stage. They did the same sort of thing for Carrie, David C., Kellie and Jennifer.

^^ I love My Hands and Save the Day too. I hope they’ll include the latter song on his second album.

David has the most heart-warming smile I’ve ever seen and what’s even better is that he so generously gives it out every where he goes and to everyone he meets.

My guess is that they will take snippets from this video to create a video montage of David’s post-idol career thus far. Do you guys remember that other video montage that they created for him a few months ago? It was also black and white. They might take parts of that and add this HOB appearance to it. Ryan would then present this montage on Wednesday when he introduces David just before he steps out onto the Idol stage. They did the same sort of thing for Carrie, David C., Kellie and Jennifer.

My guess is that they will take snippets from this video to create a video montage of Davidà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s post-idol career thus far. Do you guys remember that other video montage that they created for him a few months ago? It was also black and white. They might take parts of that and add this HOB appearance to it. Ryan would then present this montage on Wednesday when he introduces David just before he steps out onto the Idol stage. They did the same sort of thing for Carrie, David C., Kellie and Jennifer.

I would be really shocked if they did any sort of montage or story bit for David before his performance. They did one for Cook early on in the season (not for his performance), but they did do one for Kelly and Jennifer. Did they do one for Carrie? I don’t remember. I just don’t see Idol being that invested in David to take out more time from their episode to show his post-Idol career. If they prove me wrong, I’ll be very happy.

David will, of course, talk to Ryan before or after his performance. I can see David pimping his summer tour with Demi and possibly his UK tour. Ryan will say, blah blah “Crush was a big hit, nearly 1.7M downloads” blah blah “too bad Jive never certified it”… oh wait… he won’t say that.

this is my favorite touch my hand performance clip from his solo tour… from columbus….. love that killer intro to the song…….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnxOtDnt4bU

David will, of course, talk to Ryan before or after his performance. I can see David pimping his summer tour with Demi and possibly his UK tour. Ryan will say, blah blah à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Crush was a big hit, nearly 1.7M downloadsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  blah blah à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“too bad Jive never certified ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ oh waità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ he wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t say that).

AHAHA.. lol

That smile is so contagious! He looks so comfortable onstage & has really learned to work the stage! So happy for him, so excited to see him Wednesday, & so happy for when he comes to town this summer! GO ARCHULETA!!!

David has the most heart-warming smile Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve ever seen and whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s even better is that he so generously gives it out every where he goes

Ozarka, I’ve already commented on David’s smile but you said this so perfectly, and it reminded me that when he first appeared onstage at the Tulsa solo show, his smile was exactly that: huge and warm. It was as if he’d given his audience a great big hug in the form of a smile. Thanks for reminding me.

I wonder what the story is with this thing. To make a decent video of that song, I think the video would have to leave the viewer with the feeling that he’d made a connection with some special girl there. It’s merely a performance video with the energy sucked out of it with slow-motion cut-aways and no color.

I think it’s really slow and generally does David no favors. This song is way more energetic performed live. You don’t see him working the stage very much and there’s no light and no color.

Honestly, I’m very, very curious what the intended use of this video is.

I really like this song and video. It seems just like his thoughtful and unaffected personality to sing a song to and about his fans. Of course his fans are young; so is he!

I like this video. I liked the song from the beginning. I wish it had been the second single. I think they missed the boat for sure.

David is just a luminous human being. He radiates joy with his smile. I hate him (tm, snarkies).

I can’t wait to see David come back home to the idol stage. So far that has been the highlight of the season for me. Seeing Ruben, Kellie, Kelly, Carrie, Jennifer, and Cook illuminates the power of this show. While all may not be on the same level they are all miles ahead of where they were. All successes. That is unprecedented for this kind of show.

YEDL gets no love *tear*

When I first heard the brief snippets released before the official album launch, I thought for sure this would be the song to take him to the next level. I absolutely loved it and still can’t understand why it never connected with the fans and took off. Now I’m pinning all my hopes on Zero Gravity.

Whatever he sings on Wednesday night will be wildly received. There’s no way people won’t notice a vast improvement in his stage presence and confidence level.

David’s official youtube channel put up a much better quality version of the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o8ABWZ1h9w

Dear Jive (Intern that watch over this blog):
I will like to let you know that American Idol is view all over the world, wich is made very easy for David James Archuleta, recording artist of yours, to have internationals fans. So, WTH you keep blocking the videos for Latin America??????

No Love,
Celeste….

But, that Build a Bear song is deeper than this crap.

I haven’t heard this Build A Bear song before (it’s probably been posted before but I don’t really take that much notice of Archie’s videos), so I went to YouTube and had a listen. Boy, talk about embarrassing lyrics. If David Archuleta wants a Magic Rainbow song, this is it. Something perfectly fine for a five-year old, but totally cringe-worthy for someone his age. I noticed that the video also uses the Campaign For Nuclear Disarmament symbol for peace, I wonder if he really knows what that means.

I don’t think Touch My Hand is a good song (only a couple of songs on his album have any merit, and this is not one of them), but it works pretty well with the video. I think the video captures something of his innocence, the good relationship with his fans, as well as the fervour of his fans. The video is simple, and the song doesn’t say anything terribly profound, but that is what’s nice about it, it’s the essential innocence of it. In fact I don’t think David Archuleta should be trying to say anything important or profound, he should only do that when he gets a little older. Doing songs like the Build A Bear song just comes off as hopelessly naive. Innocence don’t last long, and it’s certainly preferable over naivety (which can sometimes last a lifetime) anytime.

No Love,
Celesteà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

:lol_tb:

Oh sweetie, if only I had the power, lol!

Doing songs like the Build A Bear song just comes off as hopelessly naive. Innocence donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t last long, and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s certainly preferable over naivety (which can sometimes last a lifetime) anytime.

The Build-A-Bear song was done entirely for charity. Natalie Cole is doing a version of the same song. This isn’t David putting out a single–it’s not the Magic Rainbow because it’s purpose was never to put it out for mass consumption. It really is for kids… kids who build teddy bears. Hence the lyrics. It’s 100% a kids song. Just like when singers show up on Sesame Street and sing about how sharing is caring. So I don’t get how doing the song is naive. And he didn’t choose the symbols displayed in the BAB video–that’s the Build-A-Bear company’s thing. It shows up in the videos for all the artists who have done the song.

Considering the lame lyrics of pop music nowadays, TMH is downright intellectual. I mean, really… “Boom Boom Pow”?

And he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t choose the symbols displayed in the BAB videoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the Build-A-Bear companyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s thing. It shows up in the videos for all the artists who have done the song.

I think some people would argue that singing a song about peace using a symbol of Nuclear Disarmament for peace is by itself naive, unless you are actually someone who believes in Nuclear Disarmament. Somehow I don’t think this is what David Archuleta believes. He is hence naive.

I think some people would argue that singing a song about peace using a symbol of Nuclear Disarmament for peace is by itself naive, unless you are actually someone who believes in Nuclear Disarmament. Somehow I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think this is what David Archuleta believes. He is hence naive.

Then it would be BAB that is naive, not David. David had nothing whatsoever to do with that video, save that he sang the song and let himself get filmed doing it. He didn’t create the look of the campaign, he didn’t have anything whatsoever with the planning of it all. He sang it because most, if not all, of the money is going to kids’ charities.

And how in the heck would you know whether David is for or against nuclear disarmament? Or whether any person who has never spoken on the subject is for or against nuclear disarmament. Did I miss David’s blog that lists his 5 steps to world peace? I’m not sure how this is relevant to anything… the song or David.

I think some people would argue that singing a song about peace using a symbol of Nuclear Disarmament for peace is by itself naive, unless you are actually someone who believes in Nuclear Disarmament. Somehow I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think this is what David Archuleta believes. He is hence naive.

This is my second WTH??? moment today.

Oh sweetie, if only I had the power, lol!

Believeme, if only you have the power :down_tb: …

:wink_ee:

I think some people would argue that singing a song about peace using a symbol of Nuclear Disarmament for peace is by itself naive, unless you are actually someone who believes in Nuclear Disarmament. Somehow I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think this is what David Archuleta believes. He is hence naive.

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IGC!!! HAHAHA!

Sorry, but can I just say that this thread is hilarious! WOW!

I have so say that I adore this Video very very much. It makes me feel like a tween again… :wink_wp:

And how in the heck would you know whether David is for or against nuclear disarmament? Or whether any person who has never spoken on the subject is for or against nuclear disarmament.

No, I don’t know if he is or isn’t against nuclear disarmament. I just don’t think he actually knows what all this means. There is a lot of political baggage associated with that symbol, and it is naive of him to associate with something that uses that symbol for peace, and it is naive of anyone to think that it doesn’t really matter if it is just for kids. If everyone who did that song all had the same symbol in their videos, then David Archuleta would be perfectly aware that the symbol is used by Build A Bear (I don’t know why you would think BAB would be naive, since it is probably them who chose the symbol? The standard symbol for peace is a dove, NOT the CND symbol for peace.)

Using that symbol does change the meaning of the song actually. It means that the singer believes in a world where there is peace AND complete nuclear disaramamanet, and that peace comes from nuclear disarmament. The two meanings are entangled.

Nothing wrong of course if you believes in it – if David Cook wants to sport that symbol that’s fine by me, I’m sure he thought about it and thinks that the idea is a good thing. But I truly don’t think David Archuleta has any idea what that symbol really means or has any idea about all the political baggage that comes with it. It is naivety.

LOL temkanoe!

It looks much better in the HQ youtube version!

edit: guess what? you are banned.

But I truly donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think David Archuleta has any idea what that symbol really means or has any idea about all the political baggage that comes with it. It is naivety.

Who cares? He was asked to do a song about charity so he kindly obliged. He didn’t sit and nitpick the lyrics because they weren’t “deep” enough especially since they were meant for children. He also didn’t sit and analyze every symbol that the company uses. He simply did a good deed… and good for Cook if he understands what the symbol means. Maybe he’ll get a tattoo of it on his other wrist.

Archie is so cute. He is so talented, and this music is right up his alley. I remember Cristina Aguilera, Britney, and N’sync Archie’s age. I love to see how they have grown artistically, and how different their music and careers are now. Archie has time and talent on his hands.

I think some people would argue that singing a song about peace using a symbol of Nuclear Disarmament for peace is by itself naive, unless you are actually someone who believes in Nuclear Disarmament. Somehow I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think this is what David Archuleta believes. He is hence naive.

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Cruz– Let me add to that…. :wallbash_tb: :ponder_tb:

:laugh_tb: What in the name of Gokey is going on in here? Amazing. :doh_tb:

I think some people would argue that singing a song about peace using a symbol of Nuclear Disarmament for peace is by itself naive, unless you are actually someone who believes in Nuclear Disarmament. Somehow I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think this is what David Archuleta believes. He is hence naive.

Most people just associate it with symbolizing peace. It’s been used in this way in the popular culture for decades.

What in the name of Gokey is going on in here? Amazing.

Whaaa? I just played along! :mrgreen_wp:

IGetCranked, I don’t know nuttin. :laugh_tb:

**backs out of thread slowly**

Nothing wrong of course if you believes in it – if David Cook wants to sport that symbol thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fine by me, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure he thought about it and thinks that the idea is a good thing. But I truly donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think David Archuleta has any idea what that symbol really means or has any idea about all the political baggage that comes with it. It is naivety.

Um, wow…there’s an awful lot of presumption about both Davids in that paragraph, LOL.

Most people just associate it with symbolizing peace. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been used in this way in the popular culture for decades

It’s been used primarily by people who believes in nuclear disarmament. The symbol itself spells out the letters N and D (for Nuclear Disarmament) in semaphore. It’s not some random symbol such that you can dissociate the coupled meanings of peace and nuclear disarmament.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_sign#The_peace_symbol

There…y’all can read all about it…..the semaphore and all….for those who wanna

Good grief. Seriously. Now David is being called to task for a symbol used in a video/campaign put together by a charity organization? One that builds teddy bears, no less? I have no words.

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if David Cook wants to sport that symbol thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fine by me,
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why does this not surprise me?

Perhaps I shouldn’t use David Cook as example then. Perhaps I should say Adam Lambert, or simply someone who is older and perhaps more aware of the meaning and power of symbols.

maybe you should inform build-a-bear

That’s none of my business. Why would I assume that Build-A-Bear doesn’t know what it means exactly?

Not to invade this conversation, but I think sometimes a symbol transcends its original meaning when it becomes a part of pop culture. I think the peace sign has and I don’t think Archie is naive to be associated with the concept of peace. However, I haven’t watched the Build A Bear thingie.

ETA: I already made my comments on the “Touch My Hand” video in last night’s headline thread.

Um…. I hesitate to enter this thread but here goes…… Hazelhel, I believe you have stated earlier that you are British. While the peace sign may be a sign of Nuclear Disarmament that began in your home country in the US is was more widely adopted in a generic anti-war way during Vietnam. The original meaning is pretty much lost here to the overwhelming majority of US citizens and certainly to US teenagers who haven’t graduated from high school. I think this might be more of a cross-cultural issue than a cross-fandom one.

LOL pj! Nice explanation too!

IGC, I’m not all bad.

Honestly, I kinda dig that Archie is singing a song about peace for kids. Am I right in that is what he’s doing? LOL.

The Build-A-Bear song was done entirely for charity. Natalie Cole is doing a version of the same song. This isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t David putting out a singleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not the Magic Rainbow because ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s purpose was never to put it out for mass consumption. It really is for kidsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ kids who build teddy bears. Hence the lyrics. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 100% a kids song. Just like when singers show up on Sesame Street and sing about how sharing is caring.

Have you seen Natalie’s version? The lyrics are changed. Kind of a “mom” perspective.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/PWR_BuildABear/videos/6/

They also changed the lyrics for Meaghan Martin – It’s more “girly”. haha!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1BqQnNfuyU

While the peace sign may be a sign of Nuclear Disarmament that began in your home country in the US is was more widely adopted in a generic anti-war way during Vietnam.

Perhaps, I wouldn’t know. Here I don’t think anyone would deliberately use that symbol without also believing in nuclear disarmament. But I would also assume that the symbol is largely used by people of particular politcal persuasion in the US and it has also has political baggage of its own, it being anti-war in origin. Or am I wrong?

I should correct one thing I said earlier, the standard symbol for peace is a dove with an olive branch, not just a dove. I think this is the standard worldwide.

Thank you Jlyn. Sheesh.

Perhaps, I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know. Here I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think anyone would deliberately use that symbol without also believing in nuclear disarmament. But I would also assume that the symbol is largely use by people of particular politcal persuasion in the US and it has also has political baggage of its own, it being anti-war in origin. Or am I wrong?

Nope, this symbol is used very often just to mean “peace.” It’s more of a cultural symbol than a political symbol. It’s used to mean peace on the playground, peace between family members, peace between sports teams. Just “peace.” It’s on jewelry and t-shirts. Perhaps in the 70s in the US it carried more political weight, but that has pretty much dissipated. It’s just very general. So BAB using it just to mean “peace” in general for a campaign that is used solely in the US is not symbolically incorrect given the way most, if not all, of the people exposed to the campaign would take it to mean. Kids wouldn’t know what it means, and parents of kids that age would be too young to remember Vietnam for the political meaning.

I would be shocked if David knew the British meaning of the symbol and shocked if he believed that “peace” was limited to anti-war sentiments. It’s just different here.

The olive branch, actually, is used far less in the US than the peace symbol to mean peace.

Honestly, I kinda dig that Archie is singing a song about peace for kids. Am I right in that is what heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s doing? LOL.

Oh PJ – Go ahead…it won’t hurt. hahaha!

David’s version –

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zogyYtdjt5k

Hazelhel, it really doesn’t have that much political baggage here. The symbol has become pretty generic. Associating it with fuzzy bunnies and teddy bears isn’t strange. I understand where you’re coming from to a certain extent though, I’m American but live in Japan, where the symbol does have more the meaning you ascribe to it. It just doesn’t in the US.

IGC, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not all bad.

Honestly, I kinda dig that Archie is singing a song about peace for kids. Am I right in that is what heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s doing? LOL.

I’ve agreed with you many a time!

The dollar that it costs to download the song goes to help many children’s causes. I always find it cool when the idols are able to find ways to help.

I didn’t even know it has another meaning. it’s always just been the peace symbol to me. I know a lot of fans gave David jewelry (necklaces) and I think some T-shirts with the symbol on it during the AI tour last summer. Yikes! I hope he doesn’t wear it overseas.

^^ They’ll just think he’s all for nuclear disarmament. Nothing wrong with that. lol.

^^^ eh…I just hate controversy. I’m a wimp. haha!

Thanks for the link Jabkmc.

IGC, I’ll check out the charities associated. Thanks. Maybe I can think of someone to gift it to.

well this was interesting…. *looks at non-existant watch* right… peace out!

Not to invade this conversation, but I think sometimes a symbol transcends its original meaning when it becomes a part of pop culture.

Having sat on this and thought about it for a little, I’d say nope. The meaning of Nuclear Disaramament is hard-wired into the symbol, anyone wanting to know what it means simply have to look it up and then knows precisely the meanings it carries, and that is peace AND nuclear disarmament. You can’t erase the nuclear disarmament part because that is what the symbol specifically states. Looking into this in the wiki article, and it appears to be first used in the States by people who were anti-nuclear weapons, then spread into a general anti-war and counter-culture section of the population. So yes, I do think it has a general political baggage associated with it in the States too (let’s just say I don’t see certain people involves in American politics using that symbol), as well as a social one.

Yikes! I hope he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wear it overseas.

I don’t see why not. Most rock and pop musicians here are anti-nuclear weapons. He’ll fit right in, even if he doesn’t know its precise meaning.

Archie does have à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The Best Smileà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

He won the Best Smile in TCA last year!!

I know me and my friends wanted him to win so bad. We voted every day for him.

We luv his smile. lol

Something perfectly fine for a five-year old, but totally cringe-worthy for someone his age

Um, sorry for bringing up the sore subject of the Build a Bear song (LOL I’m a trouble maker). Anyway, the song works for 5 year olds, because that is who it was made for. That’s who I bought it for, my five year old, and she loves it. Build a Bear’s target market is 3 – 7 year olds, so if you’re singing a song for them, it is most definitely going to be a kid’s song. Hence, Flo Rida won’t be doing one of these anytime soon.

Anyway, I was just kidding – I didn’t mean to send Archie down this harsh path. He seems like a great kid, with a super attitude. I just think the simplified “pop” songs he sings are pretty dumbed down. To me, he’s just a wee little one, so even though I’m not a fan, I feel bad being too hard on him.

Often I’m a little disappointed when I get involved in life and/or retire to slumber early and miss some of the Idol drama.

edit: don’t comment on the thread. don’t criticize your fellow posters.

Part of the reason I am a David Archuleta fan is that he is an eighteen year old male who allows himself to care about the world in a way that many would see as ‘naive.’ (And no, I’m not misunderstanding a single post — I’m interpreting them as I wish — my prerogative.) I wish there were many more like David Archuleta out there.

“I wish there were many more like David Archuleta out there.”

Then there would be world peace.

Well . . . um . . . back to the video. Any theories about why it was made? Not just to go on his Youtube channel, right?

Then there would be world peace.

Don’t forget the symbol! :thumbup_tb:

Well . . . um . . . back to the video. Any theories about why it was made? Not just to go on his Youtube channel, right?

I wanted to ask the same thing. Are they abandoning ALTNOY as a single? Is this a quick and cheap way to get a new song out there as a replacement single? Or is this specifically for a particular place where TMH is popular? Or as also posited upthread, the video is targeted specifically to build up and expand his teen audience?

Wow. Is it possible to have a civil conversation here without defensiveness? Seriously, even if you think an opinion is way out there, I still expect fans to respond in a civil and polite manner.

And. I just banned somebody!

I wanted to ask the same thing. Are they abandoning ALTNOY as a single? Is this a quick and cheap way to get a new song out there as a replacement single? Or is this specifically for a particular place where TMH is popular? Or as also posited upthread, the video is targeted specifically to build up and expand his teen audience?

ALTNOY is already done on radio, so there’s no need to abandon it. I don’t think this was intended as a quick and cheap way to get a new song out. It was Jive’s intention from the get-go to film TMH at the HOB in order to make a video–that was communicated to the fans at the concert. For what reason is still uncertain. Frankly I’ll be very surprised if Jive decides to release TMH to radio or if it does, I suspect it will be released only to Radio Disney.

I buy the theory that it may be intended for the overseas markets as TMH already has gotten a lot of play in Europe and Asia.

I am pretty familiar with the peace sign (I’m old) and I was a little surprised to see Archie use it. However, here in the States it has lost much of its original meaning and is now used on fashion shirts, earrings, bags, etc. and I doubt most of the teens who buy it have researched its origins.

Archie is quite knowledgable about musical history. He might even surprise people and know the origin of the sign. How about someone find out if Allison knows what it means. And then if she doesn’t we can assume she’s kind of stupid and naive.

Er… interesting thread. Lol. I’ve heard/read a lot of different criticisms concerning David Archuleta before, but this may take the cake as the strangest one yet. JMO.

Heck, I’m twenty years old, I consider myself to be a fairly normal person, and I didn’t know what the peace sign originally meant until now. All the peace sign means to me is just that… peace. *shrugs*

Well, Lys, I’m 61 years old, college educated, world traveled, a white collar professional, well read and until this thread I had no idea that the peace symbol I grew up with meant nuclear disarmament. Guess some things just slip right past you when you aren’t looking….or I need to reassess my faith in my education. Guess my high school and college were the crap (or I just didn’t listen in class). Oh well, water under the bridge.

Well, Lys, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m 61 years old, college educated, world traveled, a white collar professional, well read and until this thread I had no idea that the peace symbol I grew up with meant nuclear disarmament.

Although I am not as old as you, I am pretty much the same and I also had no idea what the original meaning was. To most Americans, it is just symbol of peace. Honestly I wouldn’t be suprised if David would like to have nuclear disarmament. Wouldn’t we all be happier if the world was that way, even if it isn’t practical?

Okay, I got this from the headlines thread. It’s a page from Idolforums showing Adam with Zac Efron. Scroll down and you’ll see a picture of Danny Gokey with a pizza box. Is that peace symbol on the box or have I lost it?

http://idolforums.com/index.php?showtopic=594571&st=4460

However, here in the States it has lost much of its original meaning and is now used on fashion shirts, earrings, bags, etc.

I’m not sure if this is any more signficant than the way many people would wear the cross simply as a fashion accessory rather than for its religious content. I’m sure a lot of Americans are unaware of the full meaning of the CND peace sign, but I do think the proof of the claim that the sign only mean peace to Americans would be to show that this is how the American officialdom sees the sign. Frankly, I very much doubt the American Government would use the sign in any official manner in public events, but I would interested to be proved wrong. If anyone has any evidence to that effect I would be intrigued to see it, especially if its use comes from the Bush era government organised events (this is not an invitation to discuss the Bush era, I’m just interested to see if there is any such evidence).

I’ll stop after this comment but the peace symbol would be too “hippy,dippy” for an government official to use. You’ll just have to trust the Yanks here that to the vast majority of Americans, it has no connection to the nuclear disarmament movement. That movement was never as big here as it was in Europe to begin with. Peace out.

David is singing TMH tomorrow night … I just got a text message.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll stop after this comment but the peace symbol would be too à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“hippy,dippyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for an government official to use.

That sounds like you are concurring with the idea that the symbol has cultural as well as political baggage associated with it.

It is 2009 in the USA, where flashing the peace sign means support of nuclear disarmament about as much as the word à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“gayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  means a happy and merry mood.