Comments on: David Archuleta – Revised HDD Numbers – Now Expecting 200-210K Bow http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm American Idol - I Love This Cheesy Show Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Margaux http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-164301 Margaux Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:23:27 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164301 Field report: I was at a Borders Express yesterday in a small town with a Walmart but no other mass retailers, at least 50 miles away from the nearest Best Buy or other big music outlet. Borders Express does NOT have the media department of a regular Borders, its what used to be called WaldenBooks. However, there was a copy of Archuleta's CD right at the counter, and the Mom and tweens behind me in line picked it up with interest. The CD doesn't get placed in that spot without promotion. Field report: I was at a Borders Express yesterday in a small town with a Walmart but no other mass retailers, at least 50 miles away from the nearest Best Buy or other big music outlet. Borders Express does NOT have the media department of a regular Borders, its what used to be called WaldenBooks. However, there was a copy of Archuleta’s CD right at the counter, and the Mom and tweens behind me in line picked it up with interest.

The CD doesn’t get placed in that spot without promotion.

]]> By: Michelle http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-164278 Michelle Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:43:27 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164278 I think fans of both Davids need to realize that their Week 1's will benefit heavily from fanbase preorders (especially DC, who's been collecting them since May). Be ready for a larger than average Week 2 drop - although as soundscene observed, maybe Black Friday weekend and the holidays can break the fall a bit. We can "launch" them but after that, it's up to the general public whether they take hold. I think fans of both Davids need to realize that their Week 1′s will benefit heavily from fanbase preorders (especially DC, who’s been collecting them since May). Be ready for a larger than average Week 2 drop – although as soundscene observed, maybe Black Friday weekend and the holidays can break the fall a bit. We can “launch” them but after that, it’s up to the general public whether they take hold.

]]> By: soundscene http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-164210 soundscene Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:24:25 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164210 <blockquote>Just curious, what proportion is physical CD sales nowadays, and are there differences between genres? Someone might have mentioned it somewhere but I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t remember the figures.</blockquote> I think iTunes is 17% of the market. Walmart is a bit higher than that. But pretty much everything that is not iTunes is physical sales. So physical sales still occupy most of the market.

Just curious, what proportion is physical CD sales nowadays, and are there differences between genres? Someone might have mentioned it somewhere but I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t remember the figures.

I think iTunes is 17% of the market. Walmart is a bit higher than that. But pretty much everything that is not iTunes is physical sales. So physical sales still occupy most of the market.

]]> By: tinawina http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-164194 tinawina Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:53:44 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164194 I think people just associates the Idols in their heads. When you see one, even if that person wasn't your favorite, it reminds you of "your" idol and you may seek them out. Makes sense. I think people just associates the Idols in their heads. When you see one, even if that person wasn’t your favorite, it reminds you of “your” idol and you may seek them out. Makes sense.

]]> By: leome http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-164188 leome Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:37:59 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164188 <blockquote>What a fascinating phenomenon! Does the flip side hold true as well? That is to say, whenever Archie does a promo, does Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s LO/TOML sales and album presales get a bump up?</blockquote> Yes, It has happened in the past, I remember that beeing discussed among Cook fans. One of the times was when Archie's video was released. TOML got a bump out of it.

What a fascinating phenomenon! Does the flip side hold true as well? That is to say, whenever Archie does a promo, does Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s LO/TOML sales and album presales get a bump up?

Yes, It has happened in the past, I remember that beeing discussed among Cook fans. One of the times was when Archie’s video was released. TOML got a bump out of it.

]]> By: Hazehel http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-164186 Hazehel Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:27:49 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164186 Just curious, what proportion is physical CD sales nowadays, and are there differences between genres? Someone might have mentioned it somewhere but I can't remember the figures. Just curious, what proportion is physical CD sales nowadays, and are there differences between genres? Someone might have mentioned it somewhere but I can’t remember the figures.

]]> By: soundscene http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-164184 soundscene Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:20:05 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164184 <blockquote>Soundscene, I love your informative posts, and I guess I just wanted to take a moment here and say thanks.</blockquote> You're welcome! And thanks! <blockquote>What a fascinating phenomenon! Does the flip side hold true as well? That is to say, whenever Archie does a promo, does Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s LO/TOML sales and album presales get a bump up?</blockquote> I think it benefits Archie more than Cook. I haven't seen a significant bump for Cook when Archie is promoting. Cook's pre-order did move up from 36 to 31 today on iTunes, but I would suspect that has more to do with the album leak. Archie got bumped up in pre-orders after his album leaked. What I think happening is that people see David Cook and they think, "whatever happened to that Archuleta kid?" and they go look him up. Or they see an ad for Cook on iTunes and think, "Does that Archuleta kid have something out?" and they go look him up. I can't say why Cook doesn't get the same bump (or maybe he does and I haven't noticed).

Soundscene, I love your informative posts, and I guess I just wanted to take a moment here and say thanks.

You’re welcome! And thanks!

What a fascinating phenomenon! Does the flip side hold true as well? That is to say, whenever Archie does a promo, does Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s LO/TOML sales and album presales get a bump up?

I think it benefits Archie more than Cook. I haven’t seen a significant bump for Cook when Archie is promoting. Cook’s pre-order did move up from 36 to 31 today on iTunes, but I would suspect that has more to do with the album leak. Archie got bumped up in pre-orders after his album leaked.

What I think happening is that people see David Cook and they think, “whatever happened to that Archuleta kid?” and they go look him up. Or they see an ad for Cook on iTunes and think, “Does that Archuleta kid have something out?” and they go look him up.

I can’t say why Cook doesn’t get the same bump (or maybe he does and I haven’t noticed).

]]> By: ozarka http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-164182 ozarka Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:00:38 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164182 <blockquote>Archie will have a drop. He might benefit from Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album being released (maybe not so surprisingly, Archie gets a sales bump whenever Cook sells something or gets TV promotionà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬'Archie fans have called in the Cookbump). The week Cook was on SNL, Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album pre-sale rose into the teens, eventually passing Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s by one spot. But once they connected, they both rose together. The week Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pre-order was on iTunes, Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Crush sales went up. If you look on Google Trends, the week of SNL, Archie got a nice bump in searches. They travel togetherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ for now.</blockquote> What a fascinating phenomenon! Does the flip side hold true as well? That is to say, whenever Archie does a promo, does Cook's LO/TOML sales and album presales get a bump up?

Archie will have a drop. He might benefit from Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album being released (maybe not so surprisingly, Archie gets a sales bump whenever Cook sells something or gets TV promotionà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’Archie fans have called in the Cookbump). The week Cook was on SNL, Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s album pre-sale rose into the teens, eventually passing Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s by one spot. But once they connected, they both rose together. The week Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pre-order was on iTunes, Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Crush sales went up. If you look on Google Trends, the week of SNL, Archie got a nice bump in searches. They travel togetherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ for now.

What a fascinating phenomenon! Does the flip side hold true as well? That is to say, whenever Archie does a promo, does Cook’s LO/TOML sales and album presales get a bump up?

]]> By: JudyOhio http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-164180 JudyOhio Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:58:59 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164180 Soundscene, I love your informative posts, and I guess I just wanted to take a moment here and say thanks. :smile1_tb: Soundscene, I love your informative posts, and I guess I just wanted to take a moment here and say thanks.

:smile1_tb:

]]> By: soundscene http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-164177 soundscene Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:49:11 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164177 <blockquote>I thought the initial estimate from HDD was too high, and even after adjusting it downwards, I suspect it might still be a little too high. It would be great if his album can achieve the predicted sales figure, but even if it misses the lower estimate it would still be a very good number.</blockquote> Well, HDD's estimate now is based on three full days of sales. Not just the first day, which is always frontloaded and was a holiday. They have data accounting up through yesterday. That's enough data to calculate the drop-off from day one and understand how the holiday affected sales. Considering that, I would say that prediction is probably pretty accurate. Although it's easier to project single sales, that particular portion of HDD underestimated Archie's first week sales for Crush.

I thought the initial estimate from HDD was too high, and even after adjusting it downwards, I suspect it might still be a little too high. It would be great if his album can achieve the predicted sales figure, but even if it misses the lower estimate it would still be a very good number.

Well, HDD’s estimate now is based on three full days of sales. Not just the first day, which is always frontloaded and was a holiday. They have data accounting up through yesterday. That’s enough data to calculate the drop-off from day one and understand how the holiday affected sales. Considering that, I would say that prediction is probably pretty accurate. Although it’s easier to project single sales, that particular portion of HDD underestimated Archie’s first week sales for Crush.

]]> By: Hazehel http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-164175 Hazehel Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:32:19 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164175 I thought the initial estimate from HDD was too high, and even after adjusting it downwards, I suspect it might still be a little too high. It would be great if his album can achieve the predicted sales figure, but even if it misses the lower estimate it would still be a very good number. I thought the initial estimate from HDD was too high, and even after adjusting it downwards, I suspect it might still be a little too high. It would be great if his album can achieve the predicted sales figure, but even if it misses the lower estimate it would still be a very good number.

]]> By: E http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-164173 E Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:27:10 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164173 Soundscene post #10 interesting point. J Hud is a singer/actress, guess that's helping her album sales. Soundscene post #10 interesting point. J Hud is a singer/actress, guess that’s helping her album sales.

]]> By: tinawina http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-164169 tinawina Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:55:51 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164169 I was under the impression that a 56-60% drop the second week is pretty normal for album releases. Then it drops a gain the third week and hopefully starts to stabilize. Both Cook and Archie should see their drops softened by Black Friday though. I was under the impression that a 56-60% drop the second week is pretty normal for album releases. Then it drops a gain the third week and hopefully starts to stabilize. Both Cook and Archie should see their drops softened by Black Friday though.

]]> By: soundscene http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-164168 soundscene Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:54:27 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164168 <blockquote>The Davids have a lot of appearances in the works between now and Christmas, not to mention the Christmas shopping season. Do you think that will have an effect on 2nd, 3rd, 4th week sales? If so, to what extent?</blockquote> For physical CD sales, it should help. They may not get the highest chart positions, but sales could remain more consistent because of the holidays.

The Davids have a lot of appearances in the works between now and Christmas, not to mention the Christmas shopping season. Do you think that will have an effect on 2nd, 3rd, 4th week sales? If so, to what extent?

For physical CD sales, it should help. They may not get the highest chart positions, but sales could remain more consistent because of the holidays.

]]> By: JudyOhio http://www.mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-164167 JudyOhio Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:50:36 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/david-archuleta-revised-hdd-numbers-now-expecting-200-210k-bow.htm#comment-164167 The Davids have a lot of appearances in the works between now and Christmas, not to mention the Christmas shopping season. Do you think that will have an effect on 2nd, 3rd, 4th week sales? If so, to what extent? The Davids have a lot of appearances in the works between now and Christmas, not to mention the Christmas shopping season. Do you think that will have an effect on 2nd, 3rd, 4th week sales? If so, to what extent?

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