<<at a>> reception celebrating the inaugural Eunice Kennedy Shriver Challenge at the Washington Monument on October 23, 2010 in Washington, DC.David Archuleta’s “Falling Stars”, according to tweets, has been released to radio stations in the Adult Contemporary/Hot Adult Contemporary format.

Songwriter/Producer Claude Kelly tweets, “Lets Go @DavidArchie fans! start requesting! RT @lovefrommich my local radiostation just confirmed that they received Falling Stars frm Jive”

And, “Falling Stars” co-writer, Eman Kiriakou tweets, “Hey everyone. Call and request Falling Stars at your local AC/Hot AC stations! Especially you @DavidArchie fans! GO!!!!!”

The song is streaming at mediabase, which is a sign that the song could be single-bound.

“Falling Stars” is the third single released from David’s new album, The Other Side of Down.

“Something ‘Bout Love” and “Elevator” were released to radio in quick succession. There was even a video for “Something ‘Bout Love”.  But, neither song has gained traction on pop radio so far.

I wonder if Jive has decided to abandon the CHR format to focus on HAC?

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  • Kris

    David did a really great interview with Something Pitchy where he talked about what he wanted for this album. He said there were songs that he really loved that he knew wouldn’t make the album because they weren’t about being the best pop songs,they were just about telling a story. He said that maybe one day he could share them with people but he wasn’t at that point yet in his career. He was still doing the pop thing and working with the label. He talked about compromising with the label and having to meet in the middle so both sides are happy. He wanted to make an album that was fun, youthful, but wasn’t careless. The problem is pop music, right now, is about carelessness. I think David has always been more of a HAC artist than a pop one. The artists that he enjoys listening to and that he looks up to are HAC artists. I don’t think that is what his label wants for him though.

    I don’t think that David should be marginalized by saying that he should only sing covers and ballads. David can do so much more than that and has proven that he can. I think he can have a successful career without being ballad boy or Susan Boyle. I like the songs that David wrote and I think he will continue to grow as a songwriter.

  • Stan

    I also don’t think David’s fanbase is decreasing. I am one and it has definitely been increasing. That analysis is definitely not true. But the promotion is key!!!
    One note to remember about pop or even AC radio. They cater to females age 20-40, 30 being the main focal point. Females that age want to listen to male singers that age. David is not there yet. yes, he sings much more maturely than most 19 year olds. That is a fact and pop radio is going to decide on songs based upon that number one fact! The singer’s appeal to that demographic.
    Jive and David are doing what they can to retain his name and hoping,I think, to make steps towards that demographic, which will not happen until he reaches 20 or so. It takes time. Jive has that and fans don’t always see that.

  • lucy

    But…David and Jive are trying to introduce him in pop radio with a hit or two and then as he matures in style and talents, he can do anything. Look at Buble who is making it on pop radio, and even Jason Mraz, for that matter. They are making it to pop radio, and they don’t fit “pop” IMO. I think David is trying that route too.

    I guess what strikes me about this comparison, though, is that I’d say these guys *started* in a rather different niche than radio pop, grew their popularity in those niches, and *then* were able to begin getting played on pop-format radio. ….

    To me, that’s kind of the core problem that many of the AIers have, actually.

    Except for a few corporation-produced-to-blueprint hot properties like Bieber, or whatever, most people grow into being really popular stars after starting by being totally themselves in some more niche-y area. (and, yeah, for some of those people the niche is pop — but I think it’s more complicated than that. Gaga, for example, is a pop star now, but a few years ago when she was starting out, her niche was “weird sort of poppish but also sort of indie-ish theatrical club performer”).

    For most singers, you start in some sort of niche (which could be a local niche, but is often a somewhat-less-than-poppy genre niche, as well), and then as you grow your popularity, if you’re good enough — and David and many other AI alums certainly *are* “good enough”! — and have a style that can be loved by masses, you may well catch on with the public to the extent that your stuff gets picked up by pop radio and so on, and *then* you put out the really “radio-friendly” pop songs.

    But when you come off AI, you’re pretty much forced to do it the opposite way — make a splash at pop *immediately,* even though hardly anybody who comes off the show is really specializing in whatever the main thread of pop radio music is doing at the exact moment they’re forced to debut in it. …. And that’s way the heck harder, seems to me, no matter *how* talented they are (and quite a few, like David A. as a shining example, are *very* talented). But because they’re being asked to grow a pop career that way, they’re handicapped, I think.

    I can definitely see David having the experience of a Buble at pop, as you say.

    But I have a much harder time seeing him — or just about anyone, actually — successfully navigate the kind of *reverse* road that AI puts them on. Because on the reverse road, you are not allowed the time to develop either your own style or a solid fanbase that loves your style, as people like Buble have done — to earn audience acceptance over time. Instead, you’re immediately thrown into the most ruthless, and cookie-cutter, format of all, and, to be considered as “making it,” you have to have at *least* a string of Top-20 hits (and I’ve even seen people saying that that isn’t enough — that you need a string of Top-10 hits.) right off the bat in one of the hot radio-friendly modes of the exact moment you arrive, or in some mode that will get to be one of those one-off styles that they play big-time only once in a while. That requires not only talent but a tremendous amount or luck, which is, by definition, completely unpredictable.

    Better, for people with talent, to earn their way into being big popular stars, rather than having to produce these rabbits out of hats, I think. (plus, if you get to do a niche-ier thing first, then you will probably always have that niche to make a long-term independent-level career out of, should your try at pop fail. But if you are pushed into pop first, and it doesn’t go so well, you’ll have to go back later to square one and try to establish that niche later anyway, to get a career at all.)

  • reinharv

    I think David has a lot of older fans because those moms, grandmas and grandpas loved him during his stint at A.I. He certainly doesn’t have the teen/college crowd or the 20-30s age group. I mean that older age demographics are suckers for kids. I see Justin Bieber on every tween magazine I see at the grocery, week after week. He did have a lot of tween fans at the time but tweens are kind of fickle. They move onto other hot tween stars like that Justin Bieber kid. Jive may have assumed that DA would do just as well as when he came off A.I. where a lot of people bought multiple copies of his albums thereby giving an impression he had more fans. We all know that’s not true for any Idol just coming off the show especially with fan wars Idol viewers are so good at. A lot of people bought his CD and multiple copies of it because they liked him and also because they wanted his debut to be good thereby buying more than one copy.

    With Jive releasing his 3rd single so soon after his album dropped, it’s not a good sign but I guess they are hoping something will finally make a mark. I just don’t see David as “pop” at all. He just doesn’t fit that mold at all. I never thought they should have marketed him as pop from the get-go. I’m sorry, but I just don’t see him as ever being a big popular star but more as an artist having his own niche. There is just too much competition out there and people just aren’t buying albums. However, I think Jive has promoted him quite well. Promotion costs money – tons of it and David has to pay for it too but so far they aren’t getting the kind of “returns” they probably expected.

  • HappyDaisy

    David’s Christmas from the Heart, MP3 format, is on sale at amazon for $5.00. If you decide to take advantage of this great bargain, be sure to use MJ’s amazon link in the box on right, top of webpage.

    Liking the potential comparisons to Michael Buble much better than ones mentioning Groban and Boyle! :)

  • lucy

    David’s Christmas from the Heart, MP3 format, is on sale at amazon for $5.00. If you decide to take advantage of this great bargain, be sure to use MJ’s amazon link in the box on right, top of webpage.

    Cool. Thanks for the heads-up on this.

  • frogcooke

    i doubt anyone is still reading, but the comment about vibrato and FS. Actually I think eman didnt want him using his vibrato on it much to make it sound a bit different. Im not sure of the exact explaination but it was mentioned somewhere.

  • Incipit

    Actually I think eman didnt want him using his vibrato on it much to make it sound a bit different. Im not sure of the exact explaination but it was mentioned somewhere.

    Frogcooke, that’s interesting, because to my ear, it made the notes in question sound harsh, almost metallic. They had no natural texture, and were not pleasant to listen to….which is why the difference jumped out at me – although I attributed it to studio tools, because it wasn’t Archie’s usual vocal quality. Not easy for someone with a natural vibrato to shut it down on command, and weird, because many singers have to learn to use it properly – not the opposite. In this instance, different didn’t equal good idea, KWIM? Perhaps a more self assured artist would have said, ‘no’ – after hearing the playback.

    Thanks for the explanation, anyway – I don’t follow the Archie news and never saw that, I merely wished success for him on this album. I think they could stop messing with his voice just about any time, and let him sing. But that’s JMO.

  • Stan

    yet on FS there are notes so smoothed out that they have lost their timbre and resonance completely. When that happens, it’s not good – doesn’t even sound like Archie. The falsetto does have a forced sound – maybe that’s the studio too

    I think the variance of smooth and falsetto with some very deep tones make Falling Stars stand out for me. I personally like that variance! I like the smooth at moments in the beginning and then the build.
    But, actually, I do think this song was one of the first to produce and it seems a bit too perfect. I think a little more emotion as in Good Place would have been my preference. David shows much more depth in that song IMO.

  • Stan

    that’s interesting, because to my ear, it made the notes in question sound harsh, almost metallic. They had no natural texture, and were not pleasant to listen to

    “you are so beautiful” at the end in those very high notes has no metallic sound. It sounds natural, airy, breathtakingly fresh! Complete opposite feel from me. Interesting that you describe it as metallic. Never heard that one about David. He gets them all though. His voice is the most critiqued voice from AI singers. I guess he has a quality to his voice that demands attention, whether it be negative or positive. He is unique!!
    But that ending where he sings so high and so natural, then down to a very deep, low “you are so beautiful” you have to admit that is quite surreal. And the ending note! What do you think of that? That one resonates! Their is timbre there. You can’t deny it!!!

  • Stan

    Harsh has never been a word I’ve seen described of David either.

  • archiedoll

    I hope his fanbase will start to do some of the heavy lifting, because Jive is jiving around. IMO. Of Course.

    Actually, that’s a pretty heated topic right now. David and his fanbase been doing all of the heavy lifting for 2 years. While Jive has been doing, let me think, umm..nothing!

    And I’m pretty sure David’s not interested in singing ballads for awhile. Anyone hoping for that might be hoping ’til they die. lol.

    And yes. Eman wanted David to sound “unlike” himself in FS. I can’t remember the reason for sure, but I think he wanted him to step out of character and convey a very strong emotion or something like that.

  • chessguy99

    This looks like Jive just throwing out singles in a desperate attempt to get something to catch fire. IMHO, Jive and David agree to go their separate ways by next summer, as Sony sheds another Idol alumni.