Danny Gokey Forgets the Words to Billie Jean

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He went down a couple notches by not knowing the lyrics to the greatest pop song of all time.

Oh, Danny!

Why would you sing a song you don’t know the lyrics to? You’ve had at least 8 or 9 songs from the show you could have sung instead?

And I never want to see MJ segued into Church music again. Does not compute.

Billie Jean???? Really??? What a tool to not even give the song the respect it deserves! No one should touch Billie Jean after Cook blew us away with it. Just proves a theory some have that Gokey wants to be Cook-Not a chance in Hell!

I hate, hate, hate when I feel embarrassed for others. That’s why I never watch people like Tom Green.

Dokey just made me feel like that and I truly resent him for it. Possibly more than for Dream On. At least that was entertaining. Sorta.

When I saw this, it made me shudder. I understand that rock isn’t his thing but I wouldn’t have attempted a song like this in front of a ton of people when I didn’t know the majority of the words. Just ouch!

danny, see ya later! r they going to visit his wife’s grave? yes it is quite sad that she died, but seriously idol! do not pimp the wife anymore..supposedly they talked about her in his visit on tv and in the church! who tries out for idol 4 weeks after their wife died?

Yeah, sort of pathetic. Why did he even try songs he didn’t really know? At an event like this? That’s supposed to be relaxing, rewarding, and fun? I really don’t get it. At. All.

I do agree that he’s desperately trying to be someone he’s not… and failing miserably at it. Why does he feel that being himself is not enough? We do sort of have to ask that question, don’t we?

If HE’s not enough for himself, why should America believe he’s enough for us — to be our American Idol?

Sorry to get all philosophical, but seriously….

This is who America wants as their next Idol? I’m embarrased for America. :flush_tb:

OMG. What. Ever.

Maybe someone can answer this for me because I was really a casual viewer until last year. Why did Danny sing so many songs? In the past, didn’t the contestants just go back to their high schools and sing two or three songs at the most? I believe that is what the Davids did last year.

Why did his homecoming get turned into some sort of professional gig. If this was Danny’s idea, eh, what was he thinking? If the organizers of the event pushed him to do a mini-concert, when he should have been resting his voice, well I don’t think they were being very fair to him.

THIS is a prime example of precisely why Danny should have been voted out weeks ago. Not only does he try to do things he just can’t do, he actually thinks he’s GOOD at it. I can’t imagine trying to cut an album with someone like that. The fact that he outlasted Allison (and Matt and Anoop for that matter) is just a crime.

Now, now, MJ.

Not a good way to court David Cook voters.

I give him an A for effort.

Undercooked, as always YMMV…I guess it might depend on the performer.

I remember Taylor Hicks’s homecoming three years ago. He performed a six or seven song concert to an overflow crowd at a Birmingham shopping mall. This after a four song set at his local FOX TV affiliate. However, Taylor was also used to singing two sets a night, 300 nights a year. To Taylor, his time on AI was probably a vocal rest.

I think others sang a number of songs during their homecoming. I’m thinking possibly Bo, but I’m not sure. Maybe someone else can chime in.

I kinda feel bad for him. He’s my least favorite of the top 3 but I don’t want to tear him down as a person. But I gotta say, this was a total mess.

^^^^LOLZ.

This is who America wants as their next Idol? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m embarrased for America.

Not sure anyone knows who “America” wants as yet, but I don’t think we’ll lose too much sleep over it.

Not a good way to court the David Cook vote.

Billie Jean???? Really??? What a tool to not even give the song the respect it deserves! No one should touch Billie Jean after Cook blew us away with it. Just proves a theory some have that Gokey wants to be Cook-Not a chance in Hell!

I thought Michael Jackson sang it and made it quite popular, selling the most cds ever with this song on it until this very day……just sayin’

Hehe, you did put it up!

0h, my…cant help but giggle :laugh_tb: Man, its so hard not to “bash” when he makes it soooo easy. Such a random song choice.

Does anyone have a total count of how many songs each idol sung? i know the boy was tired , but so were the other contestants. kris, from what i recall, had 3 mini concerts (9 songs total in the day) and sung the night before on the local Fox station (1 song). And just by himslef…mic and guitar. no band, no backup singers. And from the 2 videos i saw, Adam the same….

Im sure the VFTW peeps are ticked pink right now.

Poor Danny.

I am sure they will leave this little tidbit on the cutting room floor right?

Funny how Danny messes up the words to a beloved pop song and it’s front page news.

Elliott Yamin’s Japan release video comes out on YouTube and nada.

I know, I know…gotta stay current.

This is who America wants as their next Idol? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m embarrased for America.

Not sure anyone knows who à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Americaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  wants as yet, but I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll lose too much sleep over it.

Maybe not, but it is still kind of embarrassing that America could be that stupid.

However, I have faith in America! I just hope that people choose to reward the good singers (you know, the ones named Adam and Kris) with lots of votes and hopefully we’ll salvage a good finale out of this wreck of a season.

Yup, Danny gave a valiant effort to sing a song not included in his American Idol repertoire, and let’s clap for him, people, and meditate why he forgot the words.

Seriously, I mess up with lyrics all the time, because I don’t know a lot of songs, but it’s fine I guess because I’m not a singer singing for 26,000 people. But, I think he only wants to get out of his way to please the crowd for singing more songs, only, he should have stuck to sings he actually knows.

Well folks, Danny is just a down to earth guy who is real. This being a relaxed outside concert that happens to be kind of thrown together rather quickly, I would give the guy a pass.
I’m sure he was under a lot of pressure to prepare and its got to be overwhelming. I agree that he should have just done one of the songs he did on the show though.
As for Danny being a Sanjaya, that almost made me laugh. Are you kidding?
Except that it is really insulting to compare Danny to him.

season8fan
All I can say is I agree with you! I wish we could at least agree that the 3 left are all talented. And I personally don’t think Adam is more talented than Danny. He just has more charisma.

Danny may have some talent, but he is one of the most oblivious people I’ve ever seen. His view of who he is as an artist is completely different than what he can or ever will be. Singing songs like “Dream On” and now “Billie Jean”? Come on Gokey! He should take the talent he was and apply it in someway that actually suits him, rather than thinking he is invincible and can sing anything. Not the case at all.

Rick

Boooo! Danny = fail. He should’ve sang a song that he did fairly well on the show. Probably a sappy Jesus take the wheel, or what hurts the most. I bet the audience would’ve LOVED that. :rolleyes_wp:

Except that it is really insulting to compare Danny to him.

Yep, somewhere Sanjaya is weeping……..

But he never forgot his words……..

i could only handle the first 1:27 secs. He spent 1:20 secs of that looking at the band and backup singers.

Does anyone have a total count of how many songs each idol sung? i know the boy was tired , but so were the other contestants. kris, from what i recall, had 3 mini concerts (9 songs total in the day) and sung the night before on the local Fox station (1 song). And just by himslefà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦mic and guitar. no band, no backup singers. And from the 2 videos i saw, Adam the sameà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

I think Adam sang the least number of songs. I think 3 all together. As MJ’s NYP article said, his homecoming was more about connecting to his past and reaching out to people as opposed to performing.

It sounds like to me, Kris kept it fairly straight forward as well. Did he do the same three songs at the three events?

I didn’t watch all of the homecomimg vids so I apologize. But it sounds like Danny did the most singing and did a greater variety of songs. I’m sure if he could have done just gospel he would have been fine. But having to sing songs he isn’t familar with, well, I’m not sure what happened there. I think it was just too much for him, what with everything else going on that day.

This does seem a little bizarre. I only clicked on it to see which version he tried to sing. I was relieved he didn’t try the DC/CC version.

Oh hubris. You silly silly thing.

I blame the judges more than I blame Danny. He’s sort of like Lil. He’s OK, but not nearly as good as the judges want us to believe.

Why did Danny sing so many songs? In the past, didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the contestants just go back to their high schools and sing two or three songs at the most?

I think DC sang like 3 songs each at like 2 mini-concerts last year. I was under the impression that the typical homecoming schedule consisted of 2 separate small performances…? Looks like Danny had a small performance at church, but had a much longer one at the stadium? I don’t think it’s wise– his voice is definitely showing signs of wear.

For what it’s worth, I don’t consider myself a Danny lover or a hater… this is my opinion of the performance:

1) Forgetting the lyrics to one of the biggest pop hits ever, and one that you’ve chosen to sing at a concert, is pretty inexcusable.
2) He did an exceptionally poor job covering it, lamely asking the backup singer/the band to help… and why was his back to the crowd for 90% of the song?
3) His voice sounded pretty good on a few lines that he did get right near the middle. Basically, the refrain of “Billie Jean is not my lover” and “but the kid is not my son” part. Unfortunately, that was about 5% of the song. The rest was a hot mess. Thing is, the good parts made me think this could have been a good song choice for his voice, if only he didn’t screw it all up.
4) The gospel part was… strange.

Boooo! Danny = fail. He shouldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve sang a song that he did fairly well on the show. Probably a sappy Jesus take the wheel, or what hurts the most. I bet the audience wouldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve LOVED that. :rolleyes_wp:

This was what I was thinking.
Why wouldn’t you just sing songs you already did on Idol?
That’s what the majority of the people there wanted to hear (maybe, heh. hmm.)
And he needs to know them for the AI concert, Right?
So he needs the practice, Right?
And he picks a well know AI performance song (DC)?!!!

This is WTF?!! to the nth degree.

Um…I think Sanjaya had more charisma

Seriously. Why choose a song that you don’t even know the lyrics to? And word on that way to make Cook fans go “meh.”

Maybe he was Nerrrrvous! :rasberry_ee:

This is just SAD.

He has a good voice, but based on his song choices on Idol, he should have been gone weeks ago.

I don’t “hate” Danny, but seriously – he just isn’t as good as Adam, Kris or Allison.

I thought Michael Jackson sang it and made it quite popular, selling the most cds ever with this song on it until this very dayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦just sayinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢

Oh, I completely forgot about that! Good God, this isn’t a Cook original? I’ve been duped! :rolleyes_tb:

This is an Idol blog. When the song in question is another Idol’s most memorable performance from last season, it’s a valid point to make that this wins Danny no points with that Idol’s fans.

And on that note – at least it’s the original version (shudders to think of the alternative).

This is who America wants as their next Idol?

It’s OK, Adam’s winning, this is who America wants as their runner-up.

Seriously, I mess up with lyrics all the time, because I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know a lot of songs, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fine I guess because Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not a singer singing for 26,000 people.

Yes, singers forget lyrics. Even to songs they’ve written. Jewel is a little bit dyslexic, I believe, and I’ve been to a concert of hers where someone requested an oooooooold song of hers and she stumbled a bit and apologized because she couldn’t remember. But it was a SMALL stumble not a complete clusterf***.

However, I’ve never been to a concert where a singer was relying on a lyrics sheet. To a song that is one of the most popular songs EVER.

Heck, I’ve never sung Billie Jean in front of any size crowd, but I’m sure I’d remember more words to it than that. If he couldn’t have improvised better than he did, he shouldn’t have attempted it, IMO.

Not a surprise. He forgot the words to Renegade too. Kris covered for him brilliantly at the end, and he got bused by Simon for his troubles.

pa-thetic – wish he’d been eliminated before Allison

Here’s my problem with Danny, and it’s just like Kristen said on Idolatry…he is one of the least self-aware people I’ve ever seen in my life. The guy has a good singing voice (when he sticks to his range). I’m a huge Adam fan and I can admit that. But he has no idea what to do with it, and even worse, doesn’t seem to care about learning. THAT’S what pisses me off. Come on, who stands up in front of thousands of people and tries to sing a song when they don’t know the words? It’s insulting and annoying as hell.

I don’t fault Danny for forgetting the lyrics and yes if you aren’t used to performing in front of large crowds your nerves can take over but my advice to him would have been not to have told the crowd that he didn’t know all the words to the song because it had already became obvious that this was the case.

Sweet fancy Moses.

My papaya would have slayed that song. Kris or Adam, either one, would have killed with it, albeit in very different ways.

In the homecoming vids I’ve seen, I found myself very impressed with Kris – his voice is bigger than I’d heard just watching Idol. Adam’s Mad World was very good, bra-girl and all. His national anthem was understated and spot-on vocally at Miramar.

Danny, unfortunately, is a joke. He’s unprofessional, he whines about his voice but won’t take care of it, and he has barely a nodding acquaintance with pitch. His breath control is atrocious. I’m sure he’s a nice guy, but he can’t sing unless it’s within his limited range. Clearly Gokey has no concept of working within his limitations, and he appears to have zero humility where his music is concerned. Frankly, he pings my Creepy Guy meter, and I’ve hesitated to criticize him because I find him personally obnoxious and more than a little bit weird. But this? This is as poor an excuse for artistry as anything I’ve ever seen (Scream On notwithstanding.)

I can’t believe this guy might actually win. If he does, 19e deserves him. And I never want to hear Simon dis Taylor Hicks again, because at least that hoser would have learned the words to the songs he chose.

If you have to make excuses for your chosen one, you should have chosen better.

Sma11ie: I noticed the same thing about his back being to the audience for the majority of the performance, even the gospel part at the end. Also, when the camera would come up to him he would turn away from it. Dude, your on a TV show, they need to see your face for usable footage, not your back. I think his performance skills are pretty poor. The guy is 29. He should be better. If he wants an actual career in music he needs to be better – very fast. He isn’t one of the teenagers who have some time to develop their skills.

Well at least now we know that the “you can sing anything” meme doesn’t apply to Danny.. well in case some people still haven’t received the memo after last week’s crazy ass Scream On.

Also, there’s a weird disconnect with Billie Jean and church riffing. I guess Danny’s not really that into popular music (even if it was pop music of 20 years ago) since he seems to think that the two can go together.

In terms of forgetting his lyrics, at this stage in the game, they should all know that their public performances are already indicative of the kind of artists that they are going to be once they get out of the AI bubble. If this is Danny outside of AI, then I fear for him.

This is an Idol blog. When the song in question is another Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s most memorable performance from last season, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a valid point to make that this wins Danny no points with that Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans.

And on that note – at least ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the original version (shudders to think of the alternative).

LOL. I didn’t even think of Cook when I watched Danny butcher it.

Cook did a good job, but in the end, MJ owns that song.

Maybe “Danny” looks on himself as the new David Cook. (gags on those two names being in the same sentence).

Maybe he just likes the song. I don’t know but it took me aback when I viewed it. Truly a WTH performance and one to make you ponder the reason as to “why?”. Much like the “why” on Dream On.

Danny was always *my* this year’s Sanjaya.

Umà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦I think Sanjaya had more charisma

Tons….

This is an Idol blog. When the song in question is another Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s most memorable performance from last season, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a valid point to make that this wins Danny no points with that Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans.

It may be a point, but I would wonder about the validity of it……but this is the idol universe….

This breaks a major rule of American Idol: don’t do a song somebody else has owned. It might be OK for a primary audition when they’re just looking for a good voice, but not once the TV parts start.

This is who America wants as their next Idol? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m embarrased for America.

From the auditions through the semifinals, he did look like one of the ones to beat. The problem is that he peaked after PYT or if not that JTTW, and his performances have ranged from poor to passably mediocre since then.

However, Idol had scripted this Danny vs. Adam thing from the get-go, and when Danny repeatedly failed to deliver, the judges have had no choice but to sit up there in denial of reality each week after he finished singing. Because there’s been no back-up plan. There were no male contestants with the star-power to stand-in as alternatives– maybe Matt, but he the pressure kept cracking him. And allowing the presence/ perception of females being there who could go toe-to-toe with Adam and Danny was completely out of the question for TPTB.

To me, the issue is not just that he forgot the words. It’s everything from the whole season up to and including this. I couldn’t care less about the dead wife thing. What bugs me is that Danny has no clue about his actual talents and limitations. Shouldn’t someone who is auditioning to have a major label contract and be a professional musician have at least figured out how to choose songs within their range and that they know well enough to sing in public? Especially at this point in the competition, where they’ve been working with talented music professionals like Ricky Minor and Debra Bird for months? And, when they are already 29 years old and have been working for years in a musical field already? I’m sorry, but David Archuleta and Allison Iraheta at 16 and 17 years old both seemed to have a better grasp of their abilities and how to put them to good use, and a more professional working attitude.

Meanwhile, Danny has complained twice now on air about how bored he gets. He just doesn’t seem to me to have the work ethic that you need to be the American Idol. Even after the Finale, the winner and runner up work their butts off for their successes. I can’t see Danny bothering to put the necessary effort into his career, and I have no clue why TPTB are pushing such a mediocre talent on us. Danny must have some wicked blackmail material on them or something.

Snajaya? He-he..probably not. But he could be on the verge of a Jason Castro meltdown.

At least he didn’t attempt THAT version LOL

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sorry, but David Archuleta and Allison Iraheta at 16 and 17 years old both seemed to have a better grasp of their abilities and how to put them to good use, and a more professional working attitude.

I completely agree. Danny is ten years older than them, but it seems like he has half the experience. He’s barely ready to be on american idol, let alone to be recording an album, touring, and doing interviews.

When the song in question is another Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s most memorable performance from last season, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a valid point to make that this wins Danny no points with that Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fans.

Aha! Now I get it!! Danny did this ON PURPOSE. Out of respect for David Cook. Remember how he said he’d hesitate to do a song that may be a favorite of a prior Idol, because he’d be “afraid to show them up?!” So he forgot the words to Billie Jean, out of respect for Cook, and I suppose it follows that he massacred Dream On so as not to totally out shine Michael Johns.

It’s so clear to me know, how could I have missed it before. That Gokey, such a thoughtful, selfless guy.

I thought Michael Jackson sang it and made it quite popular, selling the most cds ever with this song on it until this very dayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦just sayinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢

Bahahaha.

Gokey seems to be falling apart at the seems. I read something about a Jason Castro-like meltdown? Jason just forgot one part of a line and looked a little worse for the wear near the end. Danny’s racking up horrid performances and disregarding entire verses to iconic pop songs. Not to mention all the rumors that his voice is shot to hell. IMO, the 21 year old who’d never sung before a real audience before pwnd the church music teacher.

ETA: LMAO, cwg509!!

And I was just thinking that there has been a shocking absence of forgotten lyrics on the show this year. I’m so glad that Danny took it upon himself to rectify the situation.

Frankly, he pings my Creepy Guy meter, and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve hesitated to criticize him because I find him personally obnoxious and more than a little bit weird.

I know this is sad to say, but I kinda think this is where the Danny hate comes from. I think he sets off the creepy guy meter in a lot of people and no one will really admit it because it’s a strange and harsh thing to say.

You know, I just think the guy is not self aware and it manifests itself as arrogant and creepy. I actually bet he is not, he is just misunderstood and under a magnifying glass.

It’s kinda of sad…..on the other hand, he chose to do this, so it’s his fault.

the lyrics blew off the stage MJ…. get the facts straight if you are going to try and report something…. at least be fair.

What is so funny is if he wins.He plays after allison kris and adam on tour.I hope he can deal with the fall better then he dealt with the raise.

Way to go America. You let this dude outlast Allison. Boo!

ETA: Of course, the judges had something to do with it.

Meanwhile, Danny has complained twice now on air about how bored he gets.

THIS. I’m sure Ricky Braddy or Jumar or even freaking Tatiana Del Whacko would LOVE to be that “bored” right now.

Every time I start to think I’ve created my Gokey hatred out of not much, something reminds me of yet another major data point in creating that hatred.

Everyone else is working their asses off…you too special?

Doogs
May 11th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
the lyrics blew off the stage MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. get the facts if you are going to try and report somethingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. at least be fair.

glad adam’s or kris’s didnt blow off the stage.

But he could be on the verge of a Jason Castro meltdown.

I think he’s already in the middle of one. Sadly, while the judges were willing to say anything they had to to get rid of Jason, I’m pretty sure the scripts for the next 2 shows are already written. Danny could do an exact repeat of this Billie Jean performance, and the judges would be delerious with joy and let the confetti fall on him right then. Heck, maybe Billie Jean is his choice for Top 3 night.

I have to agree with those who question his work ethic. He seems painfully lazy in his approach to all of this. I assume this is an offshoot of his arrogance, which makes it all the more reprehensible imo.

All in all, it is disrespectful — to fans, to the crowd who bothered to be there, and yes, to AI who love ‘em or hate ‘em are giving him a once in a lifetime opportunity, only to have him piss it all away.

He appears to feel entitled (anointed?), rather than appreciative. And, for all those who were denied the opportunity to allow the same to him, I’m a little pissed myself.

Meanwhile, Danny has complained twice now on air about how bored he gets. He just doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seem to me to have the work ethic that you need to be the American Idol. Even after the Finale, the winner and runner up work their butts off for their successes. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see Danny bothering to put the necessary effort into his career, and I have no clue why TPTB are pushing such a mediocre talent on us. Danny must have some wicked blackmail material on them or something.

This is the vibe I get off Danny too .. he also seems to either not understand or disregard any advice or criticism he gets from the judges or the mentors. It’s like amateur night at the local Kareoke bar … the end of this Billie Jean song is bl**dy awful .. it’s like the Blues Brothers on acid and like something that you would do at the end of the church social when you just want to shout and give people something to wave their arms about to.

No doubt TPTB will be getting fed reports on how the three guys performed at their homecomings and how they handled the media, etc so that TPTB have some idea what they’re going to have to market post idol and who needs a bit of media training and their work ethic improved.

Perhaps Danny just sang like that with all the shouting to frighten off any blue bra wearing streakers from launching themselves at him.

I just thought it was kind of funny that he didn’t know the words but even so preferred it to David Cook’s version which I can’t stand. Not a big deal and have no idea how that makes him a “Sanjaya”. :huh_tb:

I give him an A for effort.

I give him A plus plus plus. *standing o*

(why isn’t plus sign showing up? whatever)

ya know, I’m outta here… i have enjoyed this blog for several years, but its not fun for me anymore. Bashing by the host for the one contestant I have enjoyed the entire season is really uncalled for. MJ you have lost credibility. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but when you cherry pick crap stories without getting your fact straight to bash people you don’t like… i find that unacceptable.

Best of luck with your blog, you have one less reader.

the lyrics blew off the stage MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. get the facts if you are going to try and report somethingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. at least be fair.

So? I mean not to sound terrible, but who doesn’t know the words to Billie Jean and why take on a song that he doesn’t KNOW very well at all? I mean why didn’t he do “PYT” which is the Michael Jackson song HE DID on the show?

“Billie Jean” seemed like an odd choice entirely when Adam and Kris both sang songs from the show.

I’m sorry lyrics blowing off stage is a sad excuse for not handling it better.

I think it just all in all a sad excuse to sing a song he hadn’t practiced much apparently. REAL artists don’t stand up on stage with the lyrics plastered to the floor…they have them MEMORIZED.

:rolleyes_wp:I’ll bet he just heard the song on the radio on the way over to the church and thought, “Oh, this is a cool song. I’ll sing this!”

Regardless if the lyrics blew off the stage, why in the hell would he sing this song when he has to have the lyrics in front of him to be able to sing it to begin with?? At this point in the competition, Danny has sung 10 songs and he chose a song he doesnt know????WTF??? He couldn’t pull out a song from the show that he freaking sang already?? or hell how about another song he actually knows ??

Adam and Kris both sang Idol songs during their homecomings. I still am trying to wrap my head around why he would sing something he doesnt even know without the words right in front of him. Lack of self-awareness or just a dumbass???

Doogs
May 11th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
the lyrics blew off the stage MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. get the facts if you are going to try and report somethingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. at least be fair

But why would he even think of performing a song that he needs to read the lyrics too? .. surely there are other songs he could have sung where he didn’t need the lyrics infront of him, or perhaps he only knows a handful of songs off by heart.

I would be so embarrassed to call him a music director for his home church. :blush_tb:

the lyrics blew off the stage MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. get the facts if you are going to try and report somethingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. at least be fair.

FAIR? I have never seen a singer need a lyric sheet for a “mini-concert” or any other kind. How about being responsible enough to hang on to the lyric sheet? How about having someone print out new pages, or pull them up on their Blackberry or laptop? How about choosing a song you already know more than 2 lines of? Or does Danny not actually know more than a couple of songs? How about signaling the band to move on to the next song?

Better yet, how about giving that Top 3 spot to someone who deserves it and would appreciate it?

This is so sad. I never liked Danny’s version of “Hero” during the semifinal round and didnt understand the gushing the judges did back then also. His only 1 good performance was during Rat pack week. What is a bigger tragedy is that contestants like Anoop,Alexis, and Matt were eliminated way earlier than they should have been over Danny Gokey.

You know, singers sometimes blow their lyrics, even to songs they wrote. So, Im not going to be too hard on Danny, he was just trying to put on a show and do something different. Now, the dying scream… he did deserve all the ridicule there, but this…this is nothing. Its not uncommon to mess up lyrics.

edit: don’t criticize your fellow posters opinions

Hee. First Screech On, then this. So very, very self aware, that Danny. I’m pretty sure when Billie Jean caught a load of that mess she said “Damn straight I am not your lover, Gokey. My baby’s photo has David Cook’s eyes anyway.”

Didnt I see it said that he brought his acoustic guitar with him to his hometown visit too? I would die laughing if there’s a pic of him attempting to strum like Kris….

I hope that Danny doesn’t forget his lyrics tomorrow night and that he does well.

glad adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s or krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s didnt blow off the stage.

Adam did not have a lyrics sheet. He studies/trains his music & I highly suspect Kris does also.

LOL. I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even think of Cook when I watched Danny butcher it.

Cook did a good job, but in the end, MJ owns that song.

Yeah, but Jacko’s Wackos aren’t vocifereously keeping up with every happenstance that is covered by the Idolsphere. Cook’s Wackos (and I say that affectionately!) are. So if Danny did happen to have any fans in Cookville, those would be the ones he’d have to worry about turning off.

Anyway, this is a non-issue. It almost certainly won’t even make the air, and if it does, it will be portrayed in a humanizing fashion. I have to admit when Danny laughed at himself Wednesday for his performance Tuesday, he came across as quite likeable, and I suspect the average viewer thought so too.

Not a good way to court David Cook voters.

Haha. Indeed.

ya know, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m outta hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ i have enjoyed this blog for several years, but its not fun for me anymore.

A blog is not meant to be an unbiased piece of journalism. A blogger is entitled to his or her opinion.

Doogs
May 11th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
ya know, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m outta hereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ i have enjoyed this blog for several years, but its not fun for me anymore. Bashing by the host for the one contestant I have enjoyed the entire season is really uncalled for. MJ you have lost credibility. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but when you cherry pick crap stories without getting your fact straight to bash people you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t likeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ i find that unacceptable.

Best of luck with your blog, you have one less reader.

Dang, mj, I guess you’re going to have to close up shop now. *cries*

Wait, what? You’re going to keep going? :clap_tb: :king_tb: :thumbup_tb:

Hmmm, blaming MJ for Gokey’s f-up? Somebody’s been hanging a wee bit too close to Danny “I make no mistake I can’t excuse” Gokey.

Sorry to see ya go, Doogs, but I half expect to see you back tomorrow after the Gokester slays it, gloating and cheering — which is your right and privilege! I hope it happens for ya (just so long as Adam’s better. LOL)

Ok, on one hand:
Props for having a live band. Even if they are friends from church, that took a lot of work to pull together.
Props for knowing how to work a live band. Danny looked very comfortable.
Props for attempting a whole set of pop music when admittedly, you don’t know pop music.

However:
This isn’t T Ball and you don’t win AI for the attempt.
Everybody forgets words, that’s no big deal, but if you don’t know the song AT ALL you should sing something else!
Danny didn’t even know it was time for the bridge. Come on now. (Props to that band for following him back into a chorus… and props to the backup singers!)
The home visit mini-concerts are a time to build confidence and support. Danny should have performed songs from his time on Idol.

I agree that the Danny hate can get a little tedious but this was embarrassing. Yet another indication that he is woefully bereft of any self-awareness.

How can anyone put the names of Adam and Danny in the same sentence? I actually feel at this point they aren’t even in the same universe vocally. I will guarantee that you will never hear Adam sing a “note” like Danny’s, not to mention going off-key or forgetting lyrics. Adam’s professionalism would not allow it even if he doesn’t have it in him to underperform. Where is Danny coming from that he evens “thinks” he deserves this title? I’m lost! Stage presence alone should place Adam as the winner. Don’t they also get a very nice wardrobe allowance on Idol? I’m really tired of those plaid shirts.

BTW……Just saw Simon on Oprah and he is now backing off Danny and predicting that Adam should win. I was wondering when this would happen. Is there ANY chance we could still get our shocker?…….with Danny gone!

I just thought it was kind of funny that he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know the words but even so preferred it to David Cookà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s version which I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t stand. Not a big deal and have no idea how that makes him a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Sanjaya.”

I don’t think that he is like Sanjaya who IMO, was consistantly bad the season he was on. I think that overall Danny has been consistantly decent, this season, but that last week he gave a poor performance and now he is being shown forgetting his words to Billy Jean.

I do feel like he is stumbling a bit, but I don’t think he’s like Sanjaya was. I hope that he can get it together and deliver 2 good performances tomorrow night and make it into the finale.

the lyrics blew off the stage MJà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. get the facts if you are going to try and report somethingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦. at least be fair.

Um… we all know the lyrics blew off the stage because we watched the video MJ posted. You’re making it sound like MJ was trying to turn her unsuspecting readers against Gokey by intentionally withholding the whole story, LOL. Sorry, we know the lyrics blew off the stage. That actually makes the whole thing more lame, IMO.

I have to agree with those who question his work ethic. He seems painfully lazy in his approach to all of this. I assume this is an offshoot of his arrogance, which makes it all the more reprehensible imo.

All in all, it is disrespectful à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  to fans, to the crowd who bothered to be there, and yes, to AI who love à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹em or hate à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹em are giving him a once in a lifetime opportunity, only to have him piss it all away.

He appears to feel entitled (anointed?), rather than appreciative. And, for all those who were denied the opportunity to allow the same to him, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a little pissed myself.

Hot damn, that’s it! I couldn’t pinpoint what has rubbed me wrong about Danny all season long and this is it! he’s not just arrogant, he’s lazy arrogant! Or anointed, or whatever the douchebag thinks he is(but really isn’t). WOW. You put it so clearly. And he proved it effortlessly with “Billie Jean” that is just flat out laziness right there….but what does he care? he’s going to make it to the finals anyway. Why not half-ass it.

And when I dare compare him to the hard work I’ve seen from most of the other contestants, I’m just flat out pissed off. He’s not appreciative, he’s an ASS.

And I’ve watched this video a second time now(sound off) and I tell you I watched the crowd reactions this time instead of Danny(not hard to do) and it’s fascinating at the progression of what I considered going from “Okay, to WTF?”

You just don’t butcher “Billie Jean”

I, unfortunately, live in the middle of Gokey country. From all the local press that I’ve been reading, apparently he’s been fairly sheltered as far as music is concerned and hasn’t known almost any of the songs that he’s had to sing on the show. It’s still no excuse to do that in front of people who are there to see you perform.

I’m starting to wonder if he didn’t realize what he was getting himself into and is now trying to orchestrate his own demise. I really think it would be best for him to go out at 3 and be able to go do his Christian album. If he wins, he’s going to be made to do pop and that is just not going to be what he wants. Now if only we could get the judges to go along with it. I’ll just be glad when the giant billboard of his face in my town is taken down.

As for Danny being a Sanjaya, that almost made me laugh. Are you kidding?
Except that it is really insulting to compare Danny to him.

Yes, it is insulting…. to Sanjaya.

I am seriously beginning to think that Danny is mentally impaired- is there a personality disorder of some sort that would explain these types of choices?

There was no reason on earth for him to attempt that, other than he has been watching Cookie videos to learn stagecraft and simply got carried away on fantasies of his own magnificence.

That, my friends defines “epic fail”.

BTWà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Just saw Simon on Oprah and he is now backing off Danny and predicting that Adam should win. I was wondering when this would happen. Is there ANY chance we could still get our shocker?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.with Danny gone

I think that Simon has been backing Adam for a while. I believe that it was last week where he basically said in an interview that he no other contestant mattered to him besides Adam. I think that Simon would be okay with Danny being in the finale, but I think that he has been all about Adam for a while now.

I hope that Danny doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t forget his lyrics tomorrow night and that he does well.

Is it terrible of me that I hope the exact opposite?

I don’t fault him for forgetting the lyrics. As a performer I know that can happen anytime and in any place. I fault him for his lack of ability to cover for it. He didn’t even know the song well enough to sing anything for a long period of time? He didn’t just make a joke, end the song and start over? No, he just turned around and stared at his back-up singers until something could be figured out. He froze, a sign that he isn’t a natural performer. You can’t tell me that seomthing hasn’t ever happened to cause him to lose his place in his lyrics while leading a choir or church congregation. What does he do then? Freeze? He should be experienced in this. Does he not care, is he overly tired or just can’t he concentrate long enough to carry on and carry through? It seems TPTB will have to train their heir apparent in how to conduct oneself on stage. I wonder if he will listen.

Cook did a good job, but in the end, MJ owns that song.

Yeah, there’s that.

Gosh, I have to say, this actually made me feel bad for Danny. It’s so humiliating.

The thing about Danny for me, is just that he makes me feel so damn uncomfortable all the time. From the very first moment we met him with the weird crying and drama, until this very thing right here. His abundance of social-awkwardness and outright cluelessness are just unfuckingcomfortable to witness.

I’m not sure how much more I can take. I’m in a quandry – do I continue to snark on him unmercifully? or, do I take pity on him and turn away like when you see one of those uncomfortable couple-fights in a parking lot. It’s all just icky and creepy, and I feel sympathy mortification. It’s starting to get painful.

I think Danny’s feeling the strain and well he should be! Adam’s ony getting stronger and stronger as each week passes.

Maybe Simon caught a glimpse of this video of Gokey butchering *Billy Jean*….right before he was on Oprah! Heh

edit: NO FINGER WAGGING or lecturing.

edit: NO FINGER WAGGING. If you don’t like what your reading. Don’t read it.

Insignificant? I highly disagree. I’m sorry, I find it entirely inexcusable, I don’t care WHO you are to forget the words to a song. I don’t care if I saw my favorite band and they forgot the words, I’d still be upset and find that inexusable. I’m there to be entertained and I’m sorry if I’m at YOUR concert you better know the lyrics to your songs when it matters.

But why would a fan request it and he magically have the lyrics that “blew” away? The band had all the notes to play it? Makes no sense.

He obviously intended to sing it, if he had lyrics, the band was prepared as were the backup singers, but it wasn’t a smart move on his part.

I understand he’s an idol and known of these songs are really “his songs” but when bands or real artists PERFORM they don’t just go out there and decide they are going to sing Cheap Tricks “I want you to want me” because it sounds like fun. THEY PRACTICE IT FIRST.

Take note, Danny.

Someone requested he sing it at the concert?

Honestly, that’s what it appeared like to me from looking at the video. He took a request from the audience, and it didn’t go over so well. It often doesn’t when you fail to prepare for a song before you perform it.

As a general statement, I don’t think I’ve ever seen an American Idol contestant who the Internet collectively loathes this much. I fear for him whenever he does his segment on EW’s Idolatry. They may not even interview him. It might be an ambush where he shows up, everyone in the office starts pelting him with food, and then they force him into a bathroom stall and give him a swirlie.

I really think it would be best for him to go out at 3 and be able to go do his Christian album. If he wins, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to be made to do pop and that is just not going to be what he wants.

Exactly. In all honesty, I do think that Danny can sing but I don’t think that he really wants to go the pop route either.

Is that Gokey? He spends so much time with his back to the audience in that video, I assumed it was Miles Davis.

Honestly, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what it sounded like to me from looking at the video. He took a request from the audience, and it didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t go over so well. It often doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t when you fail to prepare for a song before you perform it.

I don’t think so. He wouldn’t have had a lyric sheet ready to go if that had been the case.

But that’s just the thing, it isn’t insignificant. I think that hating Danny because of his dead wife is silly and I agree he had no control over how the show used that information. And I think the fact that Danny is socially awkward is not terribly significant, although it does contribute to his poor stage presence. But the fact that he got onto stage in front of thousands of people and attempted to sing a song he didn’t know the words to, and then couldn’t cover his mistake AT ALL, is significant in the midst of a SINGING competition. It shows poor judgment and lack of skill in the very arena in which he’s competing.

But why would a fan request it and he magically have the lyrics that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“blewà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  away? The band had all the notes to play it? Makes no sense.

That makes no sense to me either .. plus the backing singers seemed to be prepared for it too … or had the band and the singers already rehearsed it, forgot to tell Danny until he turned up and they presented him with the lyrics and said “sing this” …lol

From the auditions through the semifinals, he did look like one of the ones to beat.

That’s due to the producers editing so he did. And putting him in a group of 10 terrible people, so that we would have no choice but to put him through.

Danny has complained twice now on air about how bored he gets.

His lack of imagination blows my mind. You know what Cook did with that downtime? Plotted a way to knock my socks off every week.

He appears to feel entitled (anointed?), rather than appreciative.

That’s why I hated Daughtry too.

Danny is turning into Sanjaya.

Ok–let me now go to the chord this struck, MJ. Let’s say they DIDN’T change the format, and we had to see Danny in the semis up against 11 semi-decent other guys every week for three weeks, rather than we see him once against 10 paper tigers. Let says we saw him do the once every week from 24-20-16, etc, rather than him having to start at 12 with at least three total cannon fodders to get lost in a mushy middle in front of.
Where would his limitations have come forward? Let’s do some math. Top Four Week (when we should date the Gokey crash-and-burn) was 9 weeks removed from the beginning of once-a-week, every week. But if he’d started this once-a-week every week from 24, like we’ve seen since season 4, 9 weeks would be…week seven.
Week seven. Right around when Sanjaya went home. Right around when Kristy Lee and Kellie Pickler went home. Nine weeks is when the ones who can’t really hang start to get obviously tired. Except by returning to the old format, nine weeks comes much later in the competition, allowing someone like Gokey to go much father than I think he could have if the format had not changed.

Can you tell my hatred for the format change? Sorry. :guns_tb:

You nailed it MJ. Danny is the Sanjaya the producers actually love.

I think Television Without Pity captured it. For his followers, this is *their* Gokey. Doing well is hard, and that’s not fair. Sucking happens to everyone–a vote for Danny is a vote against the elitism of knowing songs and playing instruments and having to do well–it’s a vote for all of us.

As a general statement, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve ever seen an American Idol contestant who the Internet collectively loathes this much.

I don’t loathe him. From the evangelical air humping to the scream feared round the world, he’s comedy gold, and ya gotta love that.

SpenserJ–”For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.” Indeed, as are Danny’s growls, screams and hip thrusts to your most entertaining musings. But at the risk of being labeled a “baiter,” I’d have to say that Danny will soon be carrying all that adwkardness, humiliation, embarrassment, cluelessness, creepiness, and “unfuckingcomfortableness” you describe in a very large briefcase. All the way to the Bank of Gokey. Alongside a few thousand Benjamins.

After reading all of the comments, I can’t even bring myself to look at the video. I agree with Spense, it’s just uncomfortable to watch Danny at this point. I never enjoyed his singing, but now I just feel bad for him. This can’t end well. I just don’t think he’s prepared for what winning idol will mean.
On another point, I never understood the idol fans hysteria over a contestant choosing to sing a song that was already covered by another idol. They’re all covers; it’s not like the previous idol owns the song. IDGI.

Adam did not have a lyrics sheet. He studies/trains his music & I highly suspect Kris does also.

That person was being sarcastic (I think). We all know Adam and Kris didn’t have a lyrics sheet.

a vote for Danny is a vote against the elitism of knowing songs and playing instruments and having to do well

The idea that something as anti-intellectual as a a reality show would arouse anti-elitism in already angry evangelicals shows that these people are a group in desperate need of a target.
But, as it was Jacob making this point, I can do nothing but concur.

anibundel: That’s exactly why I hate this format too! It punishes those who could grow throughout the competition by forcing them to out-perform those with significant amounts of screen time. Meanwhile, it provides cushion for people who have sailed through on the wave of one good performance and tons of screen time. I’d much rather the truly bad go when they should while the would-be middling singers have a chance to prove themselves. We probably wouldn’t have gotten a Jason Castro or a David Cook last season if it had implemented this format.

Two things that should be noted:

1. This was the last song in a 9 song, 45 minute concert that Danny did for the people who came out to see him, including a couple of medley’s of songs that were different from what he’s done on the show. And you guys, of course, have to just criticize the one thing that went wrong.

2. Danny, at the beginning of the song (in the actual video from Fox, not the conveniently shorter video from the crowd) says “I don’t really know the words to this song, but I’ll give it my best shot for you guys”.

Reminder:

When you see a post that y’all know I’m going to delete, could you please not respond to it?

To people who think they can ride in here on their high horse to lecture and finger-wag…think again.

If you don’t follow my guidelines, I delete you, then I BAN you.

We probably wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have gotten a Jason Castro or a David Cook last season if it had implemented this format.

Or a Bo a Vonzell or a Constantine; or an Elliott, an Ace or a Bucky; or a Phil, a Chris or a Blake. Most of the personalities that emerged from this show would never have seen the light of day, because these were people who needed a week or three to find their feet. I think the change back to this format gave the producers far more control over who would be in the final that they did before, and I don’t think that’s a good thing. :annoyed_tb:

Vak33

In light of your points, two questions that should be asked;

1. Why was he attempting to sing a song he was unprepared to sing while being filmed for a national TV show in which he is competing?

2. How is it that he is so unprepared to handle things when they go wrong in a performance, especially when he admittedly doesn’t have a handle on the song he is attempting to sing to begin with? How could he not have a back-up plan?

This video made my day. What a tool.

did anyone else notice that a lot of the times that he is facing AGAINST the crowd???

2. Danny, at the beginning of the song (in the actual video from Fox, not the conveniently shorter video from the crowd) says à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really know the words to this song, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll give it my best shot for you guysà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

This goes back to my original point. Even if it was a 9 song, 45 minute set, why do the song that you don’t know? Why is it even on the setlist? Why is it even in consideration? I don’t want to see someone, anyone, half-ass a song at the concert, especially the last song of the show, which in my concert going experiences should always be good one.

I’m sure danny did a fantastic 45 minute set and I’m glad he did, but he could have stopped at 40 and just left off that song.

If this was Adam I would have been equally as upset because I just don’t think there is an excuse for it…not at this stage.

the lyric sheet didnt blow away…it ran away!

The idea that something as anti-intellectual as a a reality show would arouse anti-elitism in already angry evangelicals shows that these people are a group in desperate need of a target.
But, as it was Jacob making this point, I can do nothing but concur.

Where does Jacob mention evangelicals? Anti-intellectualism cuts across many lines. Let’s be careful not to generalize, here. Things are heated enough here as it is.

I fear for him whenever he does his segment on EWà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Idolatry. It might be an ambush where he shows up, everyone in the office starts pelting him with food, and then they force him into a bathroom stall and give him a swirlie.

Does it make me a bad person that I would watch this and howl with laughter? And I refuse to watch the audition episodes because i find the producers exploiting the deluded to be cruelty.

Adam will wipe the floor with this arrogant ass Tuesday night. Seriously. That’s all I have to say!

I didn’t know it was sung by a cat!

On another point, I never understood the idol fans hysteria over a contestant choosing to sing a song that was already covered by another idol.

Is there hysteria?? I actually did click the link just to see which version it was. No self-respecting David Cook fan can see Billie Jean mentioned in an Idol blog and not “go there”. Hee. Even if MJ does own it, in Idol-land, (and yes, maybe only to DC fans) DC pwns it.

First time I’ve heard Gokey sing. He didn’t sound that bad, when he was actually, you know, singing.

Look, I’m not Danny’s biggest fan but I think he deserves a break on the Billie Jean performance — he did it, it wasn’t so good — but it was part of a long concert set.

I will say, however, I expect that someone who wants to be a professional singer and entertainer, to know that you don’t have to do every request. He’s was doing a homecoming tour as part of a competition to be THE American Idol. He must have known that every minute he was on stage, he was in the public eye and would be judged. Kris and Adam seemed to understand this; they carefully planned their song choices. Danny, once again, made a few very poor choices.

Where does Jacob mention evangelicals? Anti-intellectualism cuts across many lines. Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s be careful not to generalize, here. Things are heated enough here as it is.

Sorry, I was functioning under the assumption that the evangelical community (which is a highly organized voting body) is the base behind the unstoppable voting block that drives the Gokey Train. You are correct that this is not a proven fact though, and I was merely reading my own assumption into Jacob’s recap. My apologies.

DANNY WILL NOT SHOW HIS FACE ON IDOLATRY.

ptslittlecomment, you hit it on the head.

As many have said, for me it wasn’t that he forgot the lyrics and lost his place in the song. This could happen to anyone. It’s that he froze and couldn’t do anything to recover… it’s so odd. Anyone who’s performed for any period of time has honed the recovery/cover skills. The lost lyric sheets are not an excuse, either.

He spends so much time with his back to the audience in that video, I assumed it was Miles Davis.

:lol_tb:

Vak33

In light of your points, two questions that should be asked;

1. Why was he attempting to sing a song he was unprepared to sing while being filmed for a national TV show in which he is competing?

Who knows? I see no reason to even speculate on it. It was a concert for his fans on a day he returned. Maybe he wanted to try and do some new songs, and not just redo his Idol performances?

2. How is it that he is so unprepared to handle things when they go wrong in a performance, especially when he admittedly doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have a handle on the song he is attempting to sing to begin with? How could he not have a back-up plan?

Because he doesn’t have as much experience with these types of things would be my best guess. He was church music director. Adam was in major theatrical productions, and Kris (my guy) has played real shows and even released a CD (self-produced, but still). He’s jsut learning these things. I don’t personally hold it against Adam and Kris that they DO have more experience, but I also don’t hold it against Danny that he DOESN’T. Part of the charm of the whole show was it was America’s undiscovered talent.

sorry but the whole presentation on stage reminds me of a wedding singer. i can look past the random song selection and forgetting the lyrics…but his movements, song interpretation really lack “star quality”. he really is the drunk uncle who grabs the mic midway through the reception…oh, how i wish Tim Gunn could give him a makeover.

This goes back to my original point. Even if it was a 9 song, 45 minute set, why do the song that you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know? Why is it even on the setlist? Why is it even in consideration? I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want to see someone, anyone, half-ass a song at the concert, especially the last song of the show, which in my concert going experiences should always be good one.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure danny did a fantastic 45 minute set and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m glad he did, but he could have stopped at 40 and just left off that song.

If this was Adam I would have been equally as upset because I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think there is an excuse for ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦not at this stage.

Why did he do it? I have no idea. Maybe his grandma asked him to, who knows? He tried something different, but it’s not like it was on the show for part of the competition. Professional musicians mess up in concert all the time. I was just at a Billy Joel-Elton John concert, and even THEY messed up. It was still a great concert, and I didn’t judge the entire thing based on the litle mess ups.

Edit: keep your remarks on the subject…don’t criticize you fellow poster’s opinons.

EmmaJK, but that’s what I mean. I was a Taylor fan in season 5 and I loved his version of “You Are So Beautiful”; I also enjoyed his “PTFMWB” just because it was so WTF? That doesn’t mean that I think no idol should touch the song ever again. And I was actually able to enjoy Adam’s version ot “PTFMWB” just as much.
In the case of Danny and “Billie Jean” , not taking into account the whole forgetting the lyrics thing, I don’t think it should make the song untouchable just because DC did an awesome version.
Just thinking ahead to Kris and “Apologize”. It’s disconcerting to think some will be turned off just because Archie sang it last year.

You hit it Spense. He’s unfuckingcomfortable to watch and I am embarrassed for him. But he also acts like he deserves to win. I have to leave the room when Paula babbles, so it’s kind of the same for me. As for all the evangelical Christian stuff (whichever side of the fence you’re on), the fact that the man sings in his church and suffered a terrible loss, blah blah blah is no reason to think he deserves to win this contest. Isn’t humility a Christian thing? I’d take a “Thank You Jesus” over his overentitled attitude any day. Snake Oil Salesman or used car salesman comes to mind. Just plain YUCK.

Oh and did someone actually quote Scripture? Just wow. So let’s see, some people think Adam is sexy – we should quote the Kama Sutra on that issue. And Kris comes across as the everyday laid back all American guy – so who should we quote on that one? Mark Twain?

It’s a talent contest and Gokey just doesn’t have any.

DANNY WILL NOT SHOW HIS FACE ON IDOLATRY.

He will if he knows what’s good for him. In the same way that The Daily Show or The Tonight Show are a must-stop for politicians seeking an office, Idolatry has become a must-stop for Idols seeking a career once the show is over.

Poor guy, I really think he has just been in way over his head for awhile now. His musical knowledge, both in theory and practice is just not there. And, while he has lead worship for years, and is therefore comfortable on stage, the dynamic is completely different than performing. in worship, you are singing *with* the audience, not *for* them, explaining why turning his back on the audience felt OK to him. Also, he is used to the lyrics to the worship songs being on the big screen behind him (seen in the church tape), so his instinct was to turn around- and then he froze.

I really liked him in the beginning of the season, because the sound of his voice is a style I like. It became clear very early on, though, that he just has no skill. In one of the earlier interviews, when the kids are asked what the best piece of advice they had been given had been, I realized just how lacking his training is. He seemed sompletely amazed by the concept of working the intensity of the music, that it had never occurred to him before that maybe just belting everything was not the best idea. I think my elementary school choir director taught us this.

In general, I just feel like he is becoming a laughing stock because no one bothered to tell him that he was in over his head. He obviously doesn’t see it himself.

(One more reason to be ticked that we are not getting three songs- at this point in previous seasons he would have been more likely to completely go off the rails with the increased pressure. Meh. Had to get that in.)

Because he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have as much experience with these types of things would be my best guess. He was church music director. Adam was in major theatrical productions, and Kris (my guy) has played real shows and even released a CD (self-produced, but still). Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s jsut learning these things. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t personally hold it against Adam and Kris that they DO have more experience, but I also donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t hold it against Danny that he DOESNà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢T. Part of the charm of the whole show was it was Americaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s undiscovered talent.

But the very fact that he is a music leader should give him the skills. He has had to have faced this type of problem before, even if it is just at church. He planned poorly, he executed poorly, he recovered poorly all while taking part in a national competition. If he was an athlete he would be out of the contest.

I will enjoy watching Adam win. I am voting with three lines for 2 hours just to make sure this travesty goes.

Save The Rocker. Save the Hobbit.

He will if he knows whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good for him. In the same way that The Daily Show or The Tonight Show are a must-stop for politicians seeking an office, Idolatry has become a must-stop for Idols seeking a career once the show is over.

I wouldn’t go. The writers over at EW have gone WAY OTT on attacking Danny, and not in a poking fun kind of way, they’ve been legitimately nasty to him, to his wif’es passing, and to pretty much anything he does. Unless it is required by contract, I wouldn’t go.

Aww, The Hobbit? Poor Kris, lol. His beautiful face makes up for his lack of height! Haha.

Aha! Now I get it!! Danny did this ON PURPOSE. Out of respect for David Cook. Remember how he said heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d hesitate to do a song that may be a favorite of a prior Idol, because heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“afraid to show them up?!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  So he forgot the words to Billie Jean, out of respect for Cook, and I suppose it follows that he massacred Dream On so as not to totally out shine Michael Johns.

Gosh, I almost forgot about that piece of Gokey-ism. He’s really got to be careful not to show any of those former Idols up. Sometimes he cannot control his brilliance — what with hitting notes that are completely out of his range every single time except, you know, during the times he is caught on camera.

I think that hating Danny because of his dead wife is silly and I agree he had no control over how the show used that information.

I completely disagree. I agree that his breakdown during auditions was probably not calculated — his emotions were still raw and he was probably just caught up in his emotions when the camera was turned to him. But in the cold light of day, someone made the decision to give the show videotapes of his wedding and pics of his wife. WTH did he think they were going to do with that?

BTW, the whole “musically sheltered” meme? Is precisely why he shouldn’t win. I’m not even a fan of either Kris or Adam (though I admire the talents of both), but I think it would be grossly unfair for Danny to be guaranteed a major label contract over the other two who have much more to offer musically, have worked for this harder, are more talented and are not skating by on their hard luck story.

Why did he do it? I have no idea. Maybe his grandma asked him to, who knows? He tried something different, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not like it was on the show for part of the competition. Professional musicians mess up in concert all the time. I was just at a Billy Joel-Elton John concert, and even THEY messed up. It was still a great concert, and I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t judge the entire thing based on the litle mess ups. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s amazing how quickly people become perfectionists when there is someone they WANT to criticize in the spotlightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

I’m not discounting people mess up in concerts, amazing singers or not, but most of them recover better than Danny did. Sometimes I’ll find out a show I attended something happened that wasn’t supposed to happen and I would have never have known because it went so smoothly. Only later after reading about it, would I possibly know. Danny didn’t recover, he floundered.

I’ll be honest, I didn’t see the entire Danny concert, no desire, but I DID watch some. And I’ll be honest again, I pick on Danny more than I probably have any right to, but with things like this, he does make it easy. But with something like that, I would criticize anyone in this manner because something like that I would remember, great show before hand or not, if that’s the last thing Danny went out on, it would be remembered. But you’re right about another thing, if I was a fan of Danny I would have possibly viewed the concert experience as a whole and made a different conclusion. However, I still would have remembered his horrific version of Billie Jean….because he made it look so awkward and even he looked uncomfortable.

But I’m NOT a fan of Danny and so as far as I’m concerned his previous material didn’t provide a saving grace for his Billie Jean flub up, and what I’ll remember is that.

YMMV

He will if he knows whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s good for him. In the same way that The Daily Show or The Tonight Show are a must-stop for politicians seeking an office, Idolatry has become a must-stop for Idols seeking a career once the show is over.

If he knows what’s good for him? Why should he show up and talk to the very people that have been trashing him all season long? If I were him, I wouldn’t even waste my time.

The writers over at EW have gone WAY OTT on attacking Danny, and not in a poking fun kind of way, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been legitimately nasty to him, to his wifà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢es passing, and to pretty much anything he does.

Hey–he put his wife’s passing out there, and allowed the producers to use it to get him votes (and, according to some, as a way to signal to the evangelical community he was one of them.) The moment he did that, his wife, and his exploitation of her, became fair game.

More proof, if we needed any that the man is in over his head. Allowing that sort of personal information to be used by the show is a rookie move of the highest order, especially if he wanted to keep it personal. Things you want to keep personal, and keep others from using, you don’t give to the producers. Period. Cook followed that rule last year with his brother. It was the first of the smart moves he made.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think it should make the song untouchable just because DC did an awesome version.

Goodness, I don’t think any song is untouchable. No matter who sings it, or when. Nope, not even DC. I wasn’t trying to say that at all – just trying (unsuccessfully, I guess) to be a little snarky. If someone wants to seriously try BJ, or any other showstoppers from other contestants, on the show, more power to them!

But in the cold light of day, someone made the decision to give the show videotapes of his wedding and pics of his wife. WTH did he think they were going to do with that?

SCOTT didnt let or tell them his entire story and it is sad.

Four words….. South Park.

Buderschnookie
May 11th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Four wordsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.. South Park.

:lol_tb: :clap_tb: :lol_tb:

wand3rful
May 11th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
the lyric sheet didnt blow awayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦it ran away!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL~~!!!
This~

Why should he show up and talk to the very people that have been trashing him all season long?

Because Idolatry isn’t personal. It’s entertainment. These are the same people who will be reviewing his album, who will be promoting him and reporting gossip on him and keeping him in the public eye. He has to have a professional relationship with these people. If he goes home and sulks and refuses to speak with them, the only person who looks bad is him.

Because he has to remember it’s just a TV show. And as an actor on that show, who wants to have a career when it’s over, one has to show they’re a good sport and have a sense of humor and can understand that there is personal and there is business, and in the end, this is business and entertainment. It’s not personal. Taking it personally is unprofessional.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3-ZYtgZKU&eurl=http://www.thebestarts.com/adamlambert/default.aspx&feature=player_embedded

This is one of the way a performer could do when he/she forgot his/her lyrics. I found it very hilarious. At the minute of 1.00 he sang

“I didn’t learn my words, because I didn’t know I gonna sing this song”

and then when immediately back to the lyrics seamlessly. True performer and most importantly he made the crowd laugh at it and enjoy the performance.

I doubt Adam would be forgetting any lyrics at a pre-planned show as he is too much a professional for that

Danny, at the beginning of the song (in the actual video from Fox, not the conveniently shorter video from the crowd) says à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really know the words to this song, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll give it my best shot for you guysà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

If this is true, it really does change alot. I, personally, just get the feeling that Danny kind of lives in the moment, so to speak.

What really matters is how he performs on the show, anyway. I hope he can do well this week, although it will be hard with the Paula song.

I don’t think Danny should win, but I would hope he could do well to chip away at the caricature that is being painted of him.

Because Idolatry isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t personal. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s entertainment. These are the same people who will be reviewing his album, who will be promoting him and reporting gossip on him and keeping him in the public eye. He has to have a professional relationship with these people. If he goes home and sulks and refuses to speak with them, the only person who looks bad is him.

Because he has to remember ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just a TV show. And as an actor on that show, who wants to have a career when ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s over, one has to show theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re a good sport and have a sense of humor and can understand that there is personal and there is business, and in the end, this is business and entertainment. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not personal. Taking it personally is unprofessional.

Well, heck, if he can laugh off his screech heard around the world, surely he can endure a few minutes on Idolatry right?

And you’re right, it would be in his best interest to probably go on the show if nothing else but to promote himself.

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I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t go. The writers over at EW have gone WAY OTT on attacking Danny, and not in a poking fun kind of way, theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been legitimately nasty to him, to his wifà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢es passing, and to pretty much anything he does. Unless it is required by contract, I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t go.

I wouldn’t blame him if he didn’t want to go on that show. They have been attacking him all season long. It’s one thing for them to attack him in writing, it’s another thing for him to give an interview with them, and them possibly do the same thing.

I wonder if he has to go on that show, like if that is a required show that he has to go on as apart of the media circuit, that Idols are required to go on.

I hope that if he does go on the show, that he is not interviewed by Kristin Baldwin. I think that an interview with her could get ugly.

I think that his best bet would be to get interviewed by Michael Slezak alone. Because even though Michael Slezak doesn’t like him, I think that Michael would be respectful enough during the interview, to let Danny say his peace.

And he might be able to touch upon some of the things that bother him and others about Danny, without making Danny feel extremely uncomfortable.

Michael didn’t really like Archie last year, but his Idoltary interview with Archie turned out alright. He didn’t really like Matt this year, either but his interview, with Matt turned out decently, and Matt even joked about how Slezak didn’t like him.

Granted Michael dislikes Danny a lot more, but maybe an Idoltary interview, with him and Danny might not turn out so badly, if it’s just him and Danny.

But I would hate to see anyone at EW treat Danny really badly in an interview. I know they don’t like him but I would hope there would be a level of professionalism if they interviewed him. Hopefully if they interview him it won’t turn out badly.

LOL, I hadn’t seen that video of “Crazy”, that’s awesome. It reminds me of Jason’s cover up during “Mr. Tamborine Man” last season. They both knew they made a mistake, but they didn’t overtly draw attention to it…or continue to fall apart…or ask to have the song started again.

Danny, at the beginning of the song (in the actual video from Fox, not the conveniently shorter video from the crowd) says à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really know the words to this song, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll give it my best shot for you guysà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

Doesn’t really change it for me.

I still don’t understand why he would sing a song he doesn’t know the words to. He gives up almost immediately. Extremely unprofessional and bush league.

Danny may be a laughing stock here but I doubt he is in the eyes of the general public. A lot of people love him and part of it may very well be that he’s a regular, not too cool guy with a very good voice. Honestly I don’t really care that he forgot some words and made some iffy song choices over the season. I still prefer him to the ultra calculating Adam or the not all that interesting voice/personality of Kris.

Excuse me while I go junmp out he same window that I did with his Dream On Mess!

heart2
May 11th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Excuse me while I go junmp out he same window that I did with his Dream On Mess!

Dont land on all that broken glass from the monitors and tv’s out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3-ZYtgZKU&eurl=http://www.thebestarts.com/adamlambert/default.aspx&feature=player_embedded

This is one of the way a performer could do when he/she forgot his/her lyrics. I found it very hilarious. At the minute of 1.00 he sang

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t learn my words, because I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know I gonna sing this songà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

and then when immediately back to the lyrics seamlessly. True performer and most importantly he made the crowd laugh at it and enjoy the performance.

I doubt Adam would be forgetting any lyrics at a pre-planned show as he is too much a professional for that

How did I miss this video? Thats hilarious. See, even Adam forgets the lyrics.

“But he could be on the verge of a Jason Castro meltdown.”

The difference being that Jason could look at himself with a sense of humor – “my friend told me the sheriff shot the tambourine man”, as well as admitting to being too stressed out to learning 3 songs for the next week. Jason is self aware and when viewers see that, we all feel connected. It is Danny’s lack of self awareness that is driving all his social miscues that are now adding up in a big way for him and turning the viewers against him. I guess we all expect more and including a total self actualized, charismatic person to be our American Idol. The judges should carry some of this blame for Danny’s misguidedness for not giving him real feedback all the way through.

I’ll cut Danny some slack on this performance and I am even willing to go as far as to say that the guy may not be a total douchebag, a characterization that is largely based on his on-screen persona. I don’t know him personally and any more than I know Adam Lambert. What I won’t forgive is the fact that he appears to have no musical imagination and curiosity. I was never a big fan of Archie because I thought he was borderline pageant kid material but through the course of the season, I could see that behind the inarticulate giggles lurked a musical savant and someone who appreciated artistry that spanned a lot of different genres. Say what you will about Taylor Hicks, but the guy knows music and really drew on a wealth of soul and R and B influences. Maybe I am wrong, but I can’t recall Danny ever mentioning artists that he really admires or whose music he cites as an influence. His song choices have been so banal and uninspiring throughout the whole season and the fact that he thought singing “Dream On” was risky or edgy is just sad. Kris choosing to sing “Falling Slowly” or Adam doing “Mad World” tells me that they haven’t spent their time under a rock or singing pop and gospel pablum at Faithbuilders International.

I don’t care that he forget the words..it’s not a big deal to me unless he did it on the show… It won’t change my vote for him.

I don’t care if he is eliminated this week, it will not change my support for him.

I like his voice, his corny-ness and nothing he does bothers me enough to not like him.

edit: are you not reading my warnings?

Because he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have as much experience with these types of things would be my best guess. He was church music director. Adam was in major theatrical productions, and Kris (my guy) has played real shows and even released a CD (self-produced, but still). Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s jsut learning these things. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t personally hold it against Adam and Kris that they DO have more experience, but I also donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t hold it against Danny that he DOESNà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢T. Part of the charm of the whole show was it was Americaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s undiscovered talent.

I agree here. He hasn’t learned how to cover for missed lyrics, and his stage presence needs work.

From what I’ve read, Danny was basically a volunteer “music director/chior director” for his church. He prolly knew these songs by heart and so maybe he does not have the experience in covering himself.

Dude drove a semi trailer for a living, this kind of thing is new to him. Should he have sung this last song, that he didn’t know? Of course not, but it’s not like he did this the whole show, and he did preface it with saying that he “didn’t know the lyrics.”

ultra calculating Adam

I don’t see him that way at all. I see Adam as someone who has worked for this moment all of his adult life and who takes the competition very seriously, but who doesn’t take himself all that seriously, which is a pretty irresistible combination. I think he does prepare for each song choice meticulously by thinking about what will work, what style he should wear, how he can impress the judges, stay true to himself, and please the audience all at the same time. To me, that just shows a commitment to his art and a desire to be the best each week, rather than being a negative trait. IMO, working your hardest each week to give your best performance is what the show is all about. Of course, YMMV.

Of course not, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not like he did this the whole show, and he did preface it with saying that he à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know the lyrics.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

He actually did it in other parts of the show, in particular the motown medley at the beginning. Again, he announced he didn’t know the words and then messed up some of them.

The only songs he seemed to know were the ones he practiced for Idol.

But I would hate to see anyone at EW treat Danny really badly in an interview. I know they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like him but I would hope there would be a level of professionalism if they interviewed him. Hopefully if they interview him it wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t turn out badly.

I cannot imagine Slezak treating Danny anything but professionally. Every time someone comes in for that interview, Slezak always owns up to the shit he’s said and gives them a chance to respond. Some of them even come off looking better for having the good sense to have a sense of humor about it. Just like Danny tried to poke fun at himself over “the note”, he should do Idoltry to prove he’s a good sport. And, to show that he’s a professional willing to listen to criticism.

Just like someone mentioned upthread, a lot of political careers have been saved by an appearance on the Tonight Show, etc. You have to confront the guy who’s been making fun of you relentlessly if you want to make it in the entertainment business. They all have to do it. Every celebrity that humiliates themself has to go on Leno after he’s spent weeks using their douchebaggery in his monologues.

As an example, after Hugh Grant had his whole hooker debacle, the moment he went on Leno and Jay said to him “What the hell were you thinking”, his response saved his career. Without that 10 minutes, I don’t think he would have ever made another movie. Well, at least not any anyone would have seen.

It’s the nature of the business, and Idolatry is an expected stop on the Idol’s press tour. I think he has to do it, even if he has to fake it the whole time.

Because Idolatry isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t personal. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s entertainment. These are the same people who will be reviewing his album, who will be promoting him and reporting gossip on him and keeping him in the public eye. He has to have a professional relationship with these people. If he goes home and sulks and refuses to speak with them, the only person who looks bad is him.

Because he has to remember ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just a TV show. And as an actor on that show, who wants to have a career when ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s over, one has to show theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re a good sport and have a sense of humor and can understand that there is personal and there is business, and in the end, this is business and entertainment. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not personal. Taking it personally is unprofessional.

I hope that they view professionalism as a two way street, when they interview him. And that they don’t end up mocking him/insulting him, all throughout the interview like they have done all season. In turn making him feel really uncomfortable. Their hate for him seems extreme, IMO. I do wonder how an Idoltary interview with him would turn out.

I think that he would be better off interviewing with Michael Slezak alone, and I recall their being a guy that was on Idoltary this season that liked him, and explained to Slezak why they liked him.

I have seen that guy before in Idoltary interviews, but I don’t know if he works for EW or not, or if he is just a guest commentator that works somewhere else. He always seems respectful. I remember him supporting Archie last year, even when the rest of the EW team didn’t really care for him.

Either way maybe they can get that guy up there along with Slezak to interview Danny and then there will be a better balance of opinions.

We would have someone that doesn’t like Danny, but would probably give him a respectful interview and someone that does like him interviewing him and that could make the interview with him a lot better.

What danny did to that crowd turning his back on them is the same thing he did to kris in the duet.

Trying to put my reaction on more mature footing. Simon Cowell and the invisible Simon Fuller are after all geniuses of money making. Possibly almost by accident–through stumbling on Kelly Clarkson–they ended up with a machine that discovered many actual and fantastic talents.

But in the UK there’s always been an equal emphasis on Talent Show as freak show. And in the US, most other reality shows are nothing more or less then the exploitation of life at the extreme–the fattest, the worst parent, the most sexually desperate and so on. This particular year has been about ripping away the fantasy that Idol is not part of that context. That’s why we had a first six weeks that was about everything but singing, and why the finale will most likely be as well.

The worse people feel about the (already predetermined) final two, the more pissed off and angst filled, the better–from the Show’s point of view.

The martyr who is victimized by the unfairness of high expectations vs the martyr of amazing overachievement devalued by relentless hype* will face off, in a welter of bad feeling, as written. The scripts have already been typed and it only remains to act out a few more scenes with the remaining contestant who has the bad taste to keep striving.*

And heck, the House never loses: however it plays out, one half the audience will they vindicated good over evil, and the other half will mourn their unfairly crushed champion.

Whether any of this will lead to a song you want to hear on the radio, and from whom, we won’t know for a long time.

(* perhaps Kris and Allison, and the others, are fortunate after all to have neither fate?)

He actually did it in other parts of the show, in particular the motown medley at the beginning. Again, he announced he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know the words and then messed up some of them.

The only songs he seemed to know were the ones he practiced for Idol.

Yeah, I guess he should have stuck to the Idol songs.

I don’t vote anymore. I stopped that three years ago. But if I did, I still would only base my votes on his performances on the show.

How did I miss this video? Thats hilarious. See, even Adam forgets the lyrics.

Yup – Even Adam >_This was posted about Adam on another website by someone who said they had dated Adam. I realize anyone can post anything but this rings true to me because I suspected he went through a lot in school and this possibly explains why he was so thin in a lot of the older photos we have seen:

“He went through hell. He was chunky, then bulimic & anorexic, on meds for his acne, was turned down for several parts, had his heart broken (no, not by me), yet continued to be OUT, pursue his dreams, and continue to have faith in himself despite all this shit. He went out to perform every fucking night he could, auditioned tirelessly, made demos, had meetings, and worked his ass off to succeed. He’d take every performance gig he could, paid or unpaid, just so he could continue to do his thing. In between, he worked retail and never complained once – because he knew that night, he’d be up on a stage somewhere. Maybe it was a tiny stage and only 20 people would be there, but he didn’t care. Thankfully he has an amazing family and great friends

If half of this true – how could someone accuse Adam being ultra calculating?

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not personal. Taking it personally is unprofessional.

I agree, but then again, I haven’t seen all of the videos. If they indeed did make fun of his dead wife, I could see how that could be difficult not to take personally.

ugh. he is awful.

What I wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t forgive is the fact that he appears to have no musical imagination and curiosity.

This is one of the main thrusts of my dislikes of Danny as a performer. He is like the pretty girl/boy who gets by on looks regardless of the type of competition she/he happens to be in. His performances and deliveries display a distinct lack of creativity and nuance. His continued success in this competition just underscores how much of a popularity contest AI is, and while I am fully aware this is a key criteria, it still saddens me that people choose to give such a mediocre talent a pass when other, more deserving contestants have to prove themselves and justify their existence EVERY week. And this is in regards to his performance on the show.

I agree, part of the charm is undiscovered talent. How many people knew Adam and Kris prior to American Idol? When it comes down to measuring how well someone handles themselves in these situations (flubbing lyrics), then Danny should be held accountable and criticized for it. I have seen kids in high school productions and other competitions do better than Danny in these situations and he deserves the criticism.

He is in a competition to be an American Idol. He needs to act like it, especially when he is performing on any stage.

But I would hate to see anyone at EW treat Danny really badly in an interview. I know they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like him but I would hope there would be a level of professionalism if they interviewed him. Hopefully if they interview him it wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t turn out badly.

This will be a funny Idoltry. Everyone will laugh and feel good. Slezak will be 100% professional and encouraging. Did you see him with Matt. Matt gave him crap for not supporting him and it was classic. Good for Matt. You know, I liked Matt even more after the interview than I did before.

I’m a proud flag waving Danny hater, but Danny should totally be dooling it out to Michael and Kristin. If I was Danny, I’d bring Kristin glasses just for her.

Anyhow, I Danny is cool enough to give it back to Michael.

ultra calculating Adam

It’s a competition and Adam is there to win. Adam has been working on his craft for 15 years and been working towards this, you are suggesting he should not use everything he as done over 15 years to earn the crown.

Danny’s problem is he has not been working towards this for 15 years like Adam or even Chris which knows alot more about music and performing than Danny.

And that is why some artists refuse to release rights for their song to be sung on Idol.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t vote anymore. I stopped that three years ago. But if I did, I still would only base my votes on his performances on the show.

Oh, I agree with you. They should be jugded on what they do on the show. I’ve not enjoyed any of Danny’s performances, so I’ve never voted for him. But, if I was someone inclined to vote for him, this wouldn’t change my mind.

That’s why I never watch the YouTubes from previous stuff before the show starts. I like to base my opinion only on what they do when it counts (to me).

Danny Gokey has offended me since day one. First, I too was recently widowed and my husband was quite a bit younger than me so it was a shock. It wasn’t that I put my life on hold but it was that I respected him and his memory enough to take a step back and, old fashioned as it sounds, I thought it appropriate to mourn my husband before I got on with life. And then here sits Danny crying in front of a camera, bringing up his recently deceased wife and spilling the entire story including the fact the Drs. better do everything they could because he was doing every thing he could by praying. Instant turnoff, and then AI plays the videos of this beautiful woman who doesn’t need her brief life dragged out for everyone to see. Not just poor taste, but offensive as hell.

Then all season long he becomes progressively more self centered. He threw his friend to the wolves, he belittles a fan of Adams in Detroit, he talks about being bored in the mansion, he acts like a 15 year old and trashes a kitchen, he funking claps for himself, he makes that obnoxious heart sign, he is loud and demands all the attention, he disrespects both AI and the other contestants by saying how funny his song was.

He can’t arrange music, doesn’t know how to breath, tries to dance and it just becomes offensive, he dresses like a truck driver (and my apologies to all the truckers out there), always looks like he needs a bath.

Now he tries to show-off at a concert instead of treating it with a modicum of seriousness. Obviously he doesn’t respect his “fans” because he didn’t use good judgment in doing the song at all.

Congratulations, AI and 19, you are about to be saddled with a very immature, naive, obnoxious, none to bright, disrespectful individual to try and market. Good Luck!

Just have to say that I was watching the coverage live of Danny singing at Summerfest. He had 4 or 5 songs which he did, which were planned. From the way I remember it he was on his way out because he needed to get to Miller Park for the 1st pitch and National Anthem (MLB doesn’t wait). He came back out and it was a mix of the band, back-up singer and crowd playing around and Billie Jean came up. He said right out that he didn’t know all the words. Sometimes things are really taken out of context. There were 26,000 people at this mini-concert. He’s our hometown boy and I’d love to see him win, I know he isn’t popular here but I think he has a great voice (listen to the studio version of Come Rain or Come Shine) if you get a chance. I really, really enjoy Kris and Adam too — (Allison and Anoop, as well). Love this blog — I check in daily to get my IDOL fix. First time posting — it’s all good!

I hope that they view professionalism as a two way street, when they interview him. And that they donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t end up mocking him/insulting him, all throughout the interview like they have done all season. In turn making him feel really uncomfortable. Their hate for him seems extreme, IMO. I do wonder how an Idoltary interview with him would turn out.

Maybe he should watch young David’s interviews from last year. They weren’t exactly kind to him, ripped him as often as they could, yet the interview turned out to be one of the best of the year. I actually came away liking both Slezak and Archie more. But then I think that Archie is definitely more self aware than Danny.

Michael didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really like Archie last year, but his Idoltary interview with Archie turned out alright. He didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really like Matt this year, either but his interview, with Matt turned out decently, and Matt even joked about how Slezak didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like him.

Yeah. Slezak usually prepares his questions in a way that help the eliminated contestants to explain themselves. But you know in his head, he’s going “shut up!”. You can tell by his facial tics.

I think it is Dave Karger who was the sole defender of Gokey in EW. So if Slezak finds himself unable to complete this daunting task, we know who will take over him.

seriously, mk88, if any of that is true, idol does have their rags to riches story and should have shown that more. he has earned that “polished performer” persona because he worked his ass off, not because that voice just opened up doors to Wicked or The Ten Commandments.

Win or lose, i cant wait until this is all over and we get the whole story about him. im guessing he has a great, truly moving, story to tell and one that will end, regardless of the next two weeks, in him being a bonafide star.

Holy smokes! Catharses abound! The cork has popped! And that “whurring” you hear is the sound of abating domestic tensions the Idol World over. Thanks be to Danny! ROFL!

Hey, Kris isn’t Hobbit! HAHAHA.

Save the ROCKER. Save the PUPPY. Punch the dawg. LOL

I used to be a Lil/Danny guy. Both faltered immensely, mostly Lil, who had one two EXCELLENT performances followed by a bunch of terrible ones, and one I thought was okay (Surrender). Danny was good when he did Hero, but when he tries to do something upbeat he tries too hard, and his performances were pretty dull.

Kris was just another guy on the Idol show at the beginning. Somewhere along the line, he crawled out of that shell and wrecked the stage with wonderful performances. Consistent, awesome at arranging. He definitely deserves to be in the finale over Danny. I am not a fan of Adam’s music (his screaming is old and dumb), but I can see that as a person he has important star qualities, and he’d be a good Idol. He definitely deserves the finale spot over Danny (Although admittedly, a Kris and Danny finale would be good for Kris to win the whole thing).

This just furthers my view that Danny shouldn’t be in the finale. All I know is that I want Kris there, and I’ll be voting mad for it so that the finale will be worth watching.

He canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t arrange music, doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know how to breath, tries to dance and it just becomes offensive, he dresses like a truck driver (and my apologies to all the truckers out there), always looks like he needs a bath.

LOL, Tess, tell us how you really feel!

(Seriously though, I’m sorry for your loss, and I agree with most of what you said. I haven’t noticed that Danny looks like he needs a bath though, other than when he was doused in cake and ice cream!)

Here’s how I see it. Adam and Kris are taking this very seriously. They go out there every time with their game face on. (I’m not even a sports person, funny!). Anyway, Danny is like too many loose ends. It isn’t cool to mess up. Other contestants were totally slammed for minor issues in comparison. I don’t want to be mean to anyone. Danny has talent, but something isn’t right. Kris and Adam have shown so much more polish. Just my thought.

he belittles a fan of Adams in Detroit

I don’t wanna drag Danny through the dirt further, but I am honestly curious about this, as I don’t remember it. Do tell, Tess.

If half of this true – how could someone accuse Adam being ultra calculating?

I don’t give a damn about what Adam did to get here and what does that have to do with my opinion of him being calculating? There’s nothing wrong with it, Taylor and DC did it before him, but it is part of why I don’t like him. I didn’t like it much when David Cook did it last season either but it certainly worked for him. I guess I’d rather see a flawed contestant who doesn’t always make the right choices or give the PC answer (like MJ last season, Anoop, and yes even Danny) as opposed to someone who calculates their every move and always says the right thing.

This=EPIC FAIL.

Is he really serious with this shit? I can’t believe there is even a chance for him to win.

so someone that goes into their job and plans ahead and makes sure they are thoroughly prepared for a presentation and makes sure they have all the right answers because they want to do a great job… is calculating?

i think it’s just maturity and professionalism.

I notice people comparing a Danny interview to the Archie interview last year. To me, it’s way different. I rooted for Archuleta last year, and I was constantly annoyed by Slezak never giving Archie credit, but that’s wherre it stopped. There was really no personal stuff other then a one time discussion about his dad. Slezak and Co. have spent copious amounts of time ripping Danny about many things that are beyond the scope of the competition.

Hi Tess: I’m so sorry for your loss.

I agree with what you wrote. I remember wondering how someone recently widowed could go on, let alone ham it up on a t.v. show.

I’m not sure if I can say that per the blog rules, but I think you made a good point.

he dresses like a truck driver

i love, love, love truckers!

Being prepared = being on top= deserving of that promotion!

he belittles a fan of Adams in Detroit

The idols were preparing to drive away from the museum and a fan came up to the car and, I believe, asked Adam for an autograph and Adam said something to the affect that she was a really cute girl. And Gokey turns and says “oh he says that to all the Girls” in a very mocking tone….turning a sweet moment for the young lady into something very bittersweet. Danny just speaks out of turn…it embarassed Adam and Allison and the young girl.

Good going, Danny.

BTW, the whole à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“musically shelteredà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  meme? Is precisely why he shouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t win.

Speaking of musically sheltered, the Fabulous Followills aka Kings of Leon were sheltered much of their youth because they were part of their evangelist father’s traveling church but they seem to be doing fine.

so someone that goes into their job and plans ahead and makes sure they are thoroughly prepared for a presentation and makes sure they have all the right answers because they want to do a great jobà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ is calculating?

i think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just maturity and professionalism.

:clap_tb: :thumbup_tb:

Adam is just sweet to everyone. That’s why he rocks!

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“He went through hell. He was chunky, then bulimic & anorexic, on meds for his acne, was turned down for several parts, had his heart broken (no, not by me), yet continued to be OUT, pursue his dreams, and continue to have faith in himself despite all this shit. He went out to perform every fucking night he could, auditioned tirelessly, made demos, had meetings, and worked his ass off to succeed. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d take every performance gig he could, paid or unpaid, just so he could continue to do his thing. In between, he worked retail and never complained once – because he knew that night, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be up on a stage somewhere. Maybe it was a tiny stage and only 20 people would be there, but he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care. Thankfully he has an amazing family and great friends

I really hope to see Adam go far. He deserves so much more than this AI package. It really comes through to the audience how much meticulous detail, effort, and time Adam puts in to each and everyone of his performances. It’s insane. Does he have a lot more experience than Danny? Heck yea… but does that disqualify him? No – he has worked hard for every bit of the attention he has received.

Ah Danny Danny Danny. What he does no longer irks me anymore because I just see him as someone still trying to fit in but lacks major tact. He’s just not aware of how things work, how entertainment works. Poor guy… I don’t think he was ready for AI.

Maybe Danny will sing “Sex on Fire” this week…

Tess: Ohhh yes, I do remember that now. That was crappy, I remember feeling bad for the girl. That was her big chance and he tainted it by trying to be “funny” He’s so awkward.

I was there & when they started the song the crowd really got into it. That opening riff is classic for sure. I wondered why he stopped singing because I couldn’t really see through all the damn signs people were holding up. I thought maybe his mic went out or something. I didn’t realize his lyrics were flying all over the place. Damn lake breeze! I guess he should have borrowed one of the President’s teleprompters.
I was at a Springsteen show once when he forgot the words too. And he wrote the damn song! He just smiled & shook his head & the audience took over. Not really a big deal to me. No one’s perfect & actors, singers etc. mess up all the time. Anyway, I’m not crazy about anyone this year but I’d love to see an Adam vs. Danny finale. And I’ll be taking my dialing orders from Vote For The Worst!

Sanjaya is way better than Danny.

I long for the day when it will be “Danny who?” around here, which should happen “oh about 15 minutes after the finale”. Put the Go in Gokey.

And that is why some artists refuse to release rights for their song to be sung on Idol.”

You could tell no one on AI thought “whole lotta love” was going to clear. Adam basically said so. I bet Robert Plant and Jimmy Page let it clear because they thought Adam could do it right and he did. Did you hear what Slash said, it was along the lines, like I never thought I’d be on American Idol, but there were a couple people I wanted to work with. My guess it was really Adam, but hopefully Allison too. Wanna bet it was not Danny.

Speaking of musically sheltered, the Fabulous Followills aka Kings of Leon were sheltered much of their youth because they were part of their evangelist fatherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s traveling church but they seem to be doing fine.

Umm….they were not that sheltered. They snuck music in and felt up girls at church camp. And their collective belly button lint has more talent than Danny.

Speaking of speaking out of turn, telling people how to grieve? Really? Having been someone who’s lost a few very close people to me, I can tell you that I reacted differently to all of them.

The idols were preparing to drive away from the museum and a fan came up to the car and, I believe, asked Adam for an autograph and Adam said something to the affect that she was a really cute girl. And Gokey turns and says à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“oh he says that to all the Girlsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  in a very mocking toneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.turning a sweet moment for the young lady into something very bittersweet. Danny just speaks out of turnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦it embarassed Adam and Allison and the young girl.

Good going, Danny.

Wow, talk about much ado about nothing. Really have to stretch to make this into “mocking a 15 year old Adam Lambert fan”. He’s clearly making a simple, inoffensive joke.

LOL, someone brought up on another thread a couple days ago that Danny’s brother said they were well versed in a wide variety of music, including Motown. If his wings didn’t spread, it wasn’t because he didn’t have access. Heck, he went to HS didn’t he?

BTW, I do find him more calculating than Adam. Someone who changes his behavior because of what people are saying on the interwebs is calculating. Someone how stays true to themselves to win is being strategic.

YMMV.

Maybe Danny will sing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Sex on Fireà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  this weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

No that was last week. He was singing like his WAS on fire

The word is called “polished.” No, Danny isn’t as polished as Adam; but then, that was the original premise for this show…to find an ordinary person with a decent voice and make them a star. Adam is no ordinary person. He has an outstanding voice and he is already a star. I would much rather see Kris or Danny win. But then again, JMO. I have had him selected to win on the pool; but that doesn’t matter to me.

lakhesis:

Are you talking about Adam? If so, that makes me sad. I had some of those same problems, in a really not fun way. But I’m good now! If what you wrote is about Adam, well then I am a zillion more times his fan. Because he is one triumphant dude! I love his heart and his talent so much.

I’ve consistently said that Adam deserves to win in my book. Talent and total sweetheart.

But vote for who you think is most talented!

The word is called à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“polished.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  No, Danny isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t as polished as Adam; but then, that was the original premise for this showà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦to find an ordinary person with a decent voice and make them a star.

Well, the judges didn’t want that for my fave Allison. They did everything they could do to run that bus over her. So, I’m over this concept if they don’t follow it themselves. And if you say she won a reality show on Telemundo, her contract never materialized and she sang only three songs on the show. LOL.

No, Danny isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t as polished as Adam; but then, that was the original premise for this showà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦to find an ordinary person with a decent voice and make them a star. Adam is no ordinary person. He has an outstanding voice and he is already a star.

Adam’s not a star. I had never heard of him before this season. I started out as a h8er (after Cher), but he won me over. He’s the best singer left, so I’m gonna power vote for him. He’s becoming a star (I hope), so to me he fits the definition of what this show is about.

Adam was not already a “star” before Idol. Had you heard of him before this show? He was a regular person trying to find work in the entertainment industry. There are many of them, and you will never know their names because they aren’t stars or famous!

I would much rather see Kris or Danny win. But then again, JMO. I have had him selected to win on the pool; but that doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t matter to me.

Both Kris and Danny will be ridiculed mercilessly if they win….Adam has performed better than both. It was inevitable given his experience. But at this point, I don’t think it would actually be a positive thing for anyone but Adam to win.

Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not a star. I had never heard of him before this season.

I didn’t say he was a star when the show began; but he sure is one now. His face is on every mag and is the talk around every water cooler. He is a star, alright!!!!

I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t say he was a star when the show began; but he sure is one now. His face is on every mag and is the talk around every water cooler. He is a star, alright!!!!

Well, he may be enjoying 15 minutes right now. I think he needs to win.

Both Kris and Danny will be ridiculed mercilessly if they winà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.Adam has performed better than both.

Not by me. You? They may as well close down this show now, as I can already imagine the comparisons next season.

Well, he may be enjoying 15 minutes right now. I think he needs to win.

Totally agreed. Just because he got more buzz in AI does not mean that he does not need to win. In fact he should win to validate all the buzz he has been generating. It’s like not giving someone an A for a perfect answer because he does not need it – he knows he is good but gives an A to someone who could barely gives the correct answer just boost his self esteem.

In another video of Danny at the same concert he is singing the song “Heard It Through The Grapevine”. Danny has the same problems during that song also. I think Danny should stick to songs he knows, even if they are church songs because cameras are always rolling somewhere especially now with video phones. He should only sing songs that he knows or that he did on the show. Kris sang songs that he sang on the show which was less problematic. But Danny is not a professional so he should get a break on that premise.

If Adam is a star now (two weeks before Idol ends), it is because he earned it. He has delivered every week without fail. There is no faulting this guy. He is magic!

I think it is Dave Karger who was the sole defender of Gokey in EW. So if Slezak finds himself unable to complete this daunting task, we know who will take over him.

That’s the guy. I really like him. I like how he stands up for his favorites (Archie, Danny) and defends them in a respectful way even though he knows that most of the other EW people don’t like them. I remember him defending Archie last year when most of the other people at EW didn’t like him. I wasn’t a fan of Archie, but I liked how Dave defended him and then respectfully explained why he liked him.

He did the same thing with Danny this year, even addressing some of the issues that Michael and others had with Danny. He addressed Danny’s faults/behavior during the contestants impressions, by saying he shouldn’t have acted like he did.

But then went on to respectfully explain why he liked Danny as a person/singer. I like it when people respectfully support their favorites, especially when they are surrounded by a lot people that don’t like their favorites. I think that it would be cool if Dave could interview Danny along with Michael.

Slezak and Co. have spent copious amounts of time ripping Danny about many things that are beyond the scope of the competition.

I think that this has been the case as well. I just hope that the Idoltary interview with Danny ends up being okay like Archieà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s was or turns out like Mattà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s did.

Karaoke Gokey, what a jokey.

Not by me. You? They may as well close down this show now, as I can already imagine the comparisons next season.

Almost every season someone says this but the show moves on. Even though it seems like the “Adam show” a lot of the time with the pimping and all he’ll soon be yesterday’s news for the most part. There will be a flurry of activity around the end of the show and then some media when albums comes out but soon will be time to think about season 9.

I really don’t care who wins the show this season. None of my favorites are there now and if Danny wins it just won’t be worth the internet blowing up although might be amusing at that. :laugh_tb:

iluvai,

Are you talking about Adam? If so, that makes me sad. I had some of those same problems, in a really not fun way. But Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m good now! If what you wrote is about Adam, well then I am a zillion more times his fan. Because he is one triumphant dude! I love his heart and his talent so much.

I was quoting someone who made that post earlier who was quoting from a friend of Adam’s (I believe). I don’t know the level of truth in it but I do know that he has been working retail, has been trying to break into a recording artist, has unbelievable humility. If I had the talents and the vocals that Adam has, I don’t even think for a moment, that I can be as humble or appreciative as he is.

Kris’s momentum in the competition is insane… I am truly impressed and yes, I do worry about that winner spot. I will be pained if Kris wins over Adam, but Kris has definitely shown that he was a great candidate for that position. If Danny wins the crown, I will begin to doubt myself – maybe I am 100% tone deaf. I can see the likability factor, I cannot see star power (originality, assertiveness, stage presence) from him yet.

Because he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have as much experience with these types of things would be my best guess. He was church music director. Adam was in major theatrical productions, and Kris (my guy) has played real shows and even released a CD (self-produced, but still). Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s jsut learning these things. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t personally hold it against Adam and Kris that they DO have more experience, but I also donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t hold it against Danny that he DOESNà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢T. Part of the charm of the whole show was it was Americaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s undiscovered talent.

Danny in 29 and has been the performing at two church services a week for 5 years. They often have 800 people at their service. Plus, according to the church leader, Danny has been going to Nashville every week to work on recordings and his foundation.

Many past contestants didn’t have nearly as much experience as Danny. Jorden Sparks was still in High School. Fantasia had almost no experience, a really tough life, and she won. Kellie Pickler had never even seen a lobster! Others, like Taylor Hicks and Melinda struggled to make a living from their music for years before the got on AI.

It’s the Top 3 and time to stop making excuses and time for Danny to show us if he has really got what it takes.

Nola: I said they have “polish”. I didn’t say they are “polished” which is what you are referring to. And it really doesn’t matter in the end, does it? Kris and Adam are immensely talented compared to Danny. At least they know the lyrics to their songs and deliver great performances to their fans.

Thanks lakhesis:

Guess you never know what the real story is. I did hear Adam worked in retail (nothing wrong with that) and it’s pretty obvious he has been pursuing his goals like a warrior. Adam makes me proud and he is a role model for me!

season8fan: I wish we could at least agree that the 3 left are all talented.

If all three were, we would. :wink_wp:

GeminiDolly: Now, the dying screamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ he did deserve all the ridicule there, but thisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦this is nothing. Its not uncommon to mess up lyrics.

No, it’s not. But it is uncommon — as in totally WTF — to try to do a song you don’t even know.

Vak33: Part of the charm of the whole show was it was Americaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s undiscovered talent.

Or America’s untalented discovered??

galaxygrrl: If I was Danny, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d bring Kristin glasses just for her.

Great idea! But if you were Danny, you probably wouldn’t even know who Slezak and Kristin are.

Thanks MJ for a great topic.

Sorry – Save the Rocker. Save the Puppy. (But, they so called him the Hobbit)

Hmmmmm maybe they can get Michael Jackson for a duet with danny.Hell i’m sure others are lined up so nevermind

From what Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve read, Danny was basically a volunteer à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“music director/chior directorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  for his church. He prolly knew these songs by heart and so maybe he does not have the experience in covering himself.

Dude drove a semi trailer for a living, this kind of thing is new to him. Should he have sung this last song, that he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know? Of course not, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not like he did this the whole show, and he did preface it with saying that he à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know the lyrics.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Danny is paid, not a volunteer, and has been working for Faithbuilders for 5 years. “According to a contact at the church, Gokey was the praise and worship leader at both Faith Builders International Ministry locations, in Beloit, WI, for the morning service and then he headed to Milwaukee for the afternoon service, as well as doing mid-week services. While Faith Builders is Gokey’s home church, he travels back and forth to Nashville, where he’s been recording and working on the foundation that he set up in his wife Sophia’s name.” Feb 6, 2009 Los Angeles Times

Tess
May 11th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
he belittles a fan of Adams in Detroit

The idols were preparing to drive away from the museum and a fan came up to the car and, I believe, asked Adam for an autograph and Adam said something to the affect that she was a really cute girl. And Gokey turns and says à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“oh he says that to all the Girlsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  in a very mocking toneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.turning a sweet moment for the young lady into something very bittersweet. Danny just speaks out of turnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦it embarassed Adam and Allison and the young girl.

Good going, Danny.

If this is ture, i official declare i hate danny!

I will be so upset (by danny) if i was the girl.

i just dont see how destroy a one of a life time sweet memory is innocent.

Why did Danny take ‘requests’ from the crowd if he didn’t know the songs?

During Kris’s concert he gave the audience a choice of two songs he sang on Idol. You can see it on his home coming concert videos. Kris picked songs from Idol and did not use ‘cheat’ lyric sheets. I am sure that Adam did the same. That would’ve been the smart thing to do. You have to take control or things get out of hand.

You don’t take requests unless you know song lyrics and then everyone has some sort of camera and it ends up on Youtube.

If this is ture, i official declare i hate danny!

I will be so upset (by danny) if i was the girl.

i just dont see how destroy a one of a life time sweet memory is innocent.

Naomit – It is true. It is in one of the video (towards the end) when they visited Motown. They were in the car and Adam (wearing sunglasses) seems speechless for a while. Adam replied by ‘says the ham’ referring to Danny. If I am Adam, I would probably says much more worse towards Danny. He just spoiled a very nice moment for the girl.

Danny is paid, not a volunteer, and has been working for Faithbuilders for 5 years.

Well, maybe he volunteered but eventually was paid because I know I read some articles from the hometown visit saying that he volunteered. I had thought he was paid, too, until I read that a couple of days ago.

kara is coming on jimmy kimmel next.who will she pimp.

Why did Danny take à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹requestsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ from the crowd if he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know the songs?

During Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s concert he gave the audience a choice of two songs he sang on Idol. You can see it on his home coming concert videos. Kris picked songs from Idol and did not use à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹cheatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ lyric sheets. I am sure that Adam did the same. That wouldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been the smart thing to do. You have to take control or things get out of hand.

Although Danny is the oldest of the three remaining contestants, in many ways, he seems to be the youngest. I think he did lose control of the event. Maybe he just didn’t know how to say no? I think he can sing well when he is in his comfort zone, and I do think there is a market out there for him, singing Christian music. I think that would be a nice career for him. I just think this was the wrong competition for him.

And I’m not being flip here, but they have contests for country singers, rock singers and pop singers, why not have one for inspirational singers? I am an Adam fan but I don’t dislike Danny. I just think he’s a guy who sticks his foot in his mouth, but that he really doesn’t mean any harm. At least that’s the way I would like to see it.

Or Americaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s untalented discovered??

ROTFL!

As for Idoltry and how personal it has gotten….it’s a freakin’ commentary an a cheesy pop culture TV show that is contrived and pimped by a bunch of producers who are out to extra as much economic value as they can from a bunch of fame seekers. Contestants all sign up for it, they all sign up to be public figures, they sign up for abuse.

Danny doesn’t know that much about music, you can tell, and he has not worked for this like Adam or even Kris.

Lets be clear what Danny got. Fame, more musical training, 15 min of fame, and a chance to be on the Idol tour. My guess is he will make $200k this year. I bet he made $35k as a director of music at a church.

I don’t feel sorry for him at all.

I still think he should bring Kristin glasses. And he has a chance to defuse a lot of Danny hate on Idoltry. He should ham it up.

It just occurred to me that Danny is a mixture of all that is usually dissed on AI. He’s the barely passable wedding singer, he’s the guy you’d hear on cruise ships, he sings songs instead of inhabiting them, he has yet to add an original voice to his songs, but instead has a big ol’ DG stamp that he pounds into each of his songs. It’s clear that he has an incredibly small vocabulary of secular music.

Which all begs the question – why did Idol embrace DG in the first place? Why did they cover up for him throughout this season? It leads me back to the idea, presented earlier this season, that the producers decided to forgo musical considerations in planning the overall arc of the season, and decided, to throw their limited resources, instead, into a subtle Church v. Gay guy storyline. Even though they hyped the ridiculous David v. David ‘battle’ last year, at least those two guys were working their butts off, stretching out their musical muscles. The same simply cannot be said of Danny, and I really liked him at the very beginning of the show.

This video simply illustrates the sad truth that Danny Gokey is not ready for prime time, at least on the secular stage. It does seem like his self-awareness is limited. Any professional singer would know what songs they were capable of performing well on stage, and if they forgot some words (which happens to everyone) would artfully cover their mistakes. Danny did neither.

I wonder why he tried out for AI in the first place. He’s got to be one of the only contestants to appear on the show who knows so little about secular music. Did he simply use this platform just to get the Christian music world’s attention? If so, it probably worked. I just hope that America doesn’t make a horrible error in judgement and vote this guy to be our next AI. He just doesn’t deserve it. He lacks an original musical voice, the overall musical intelligence and the basic hard work you want to celebrate in an Idol. It all comes down to what you want to see applauded and rewarded. Is this it? I don’t think so.

Why did Danny take à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹requestsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ from the crowd if he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know the songs?

During Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s concert he gave the audience a choice of two songs he sang on Idol. You can see it on his home coming concert videos. Kris picked songs from Idol and did not use à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹cheatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ lyric sheets. I am sure that Adam did the same. That wouldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been the smart thing to do. You have to take control or things get out of hand.

You donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t take requests unless you know song lyrics and then everyone has some sort of camera and it ends up on Youtube.

Everyone is different. I don’t go c0mparing one to another. He took requests because he could rely on the band of professional musicians he knew and chose from around the state. He also said at the beginning of one of the videos that he did not know all of the words to one of the songs. If he indeed does not know many of them, like he says, it is understandable why he appeared to forget. Also, he is not the first and won’t be the last of many a performer who forgot the words. Also, he said that he had 2 hours of sleep. I know that I don’t function very well on several consecutive days of little sleep, let alone these guys who get worked and worked. And then he has to deal with some jet lag, as Milwaukee is in a different time zone than LA. Only those who do not like him have to continually find stuff to pick and pick about. I looked to how he related to the crowd, and how he was able to sing with a “sore voice,” as he put it, and he delivered like a pro. Go Danny!

That video made me SICK. In “some” churches, that is the type of music used to work-up peoples emotions to get them clapping, jumping, shouting, speaking in tongues, crying, hand swaying, and working them into a loud, all out “spiritual” frenzy. I guess (as is obvious in this video) it works in the secular world also. Repetition from the singer of c’mon, c’mon, put your hands together, everybody stand up, yeah, yeah, c’mon, punctuated with thank you Jesus, praise the Lord, amen!, and etc…….all a technique…. so in the end they feel they’ve had a great, GREAT time. You know, the most primitive of people can be worked up also in this fashion w/dancing, drums, chants too. To me, it toys with peoples emotions, and I don’t see this as “singing.” Danny can sing well when he wants to, but resorting to that hysteria stuff is just disgusting to me. AND to resort to it because he didn’t know the words is even worse. He’s a fake. Sadly for him, it’s probably all he knows in so far as performance skills go at this time. (my opinion only of course)

Also, he said that he had 2 hours of sleep. I know that I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t function very well on several consecutive days of little sleep, let alone these guys who get worked and worked. And then he has to deal with some jet lag, as Milwaukee is in a different time zone than LA.

Kris also had 2 hours sleep. He said so in radio interviews. Conway Arkansas is just as far, if not further then Milwaukee. So he also faced the same situation.

I wonder why he tried out for AI in the first place. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got to be one of the only contestants to appear on the show who knows so little about secular music. Did he simply use this platform just to get the Christian music worldà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s attention? If so, it probably worked. I just hope that America doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make a horrible error in judgement and vote this guy to be our next AI. He just doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t deserve it. He lacks an original musical voice, the overall musical intelligence and the basic hard work you want to celebrate in an Idol. It all comes down to what you want to see applauded and rewarded. Is this it? I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think so.

I beg to differ in many of your points. I think his voice is anything but unoriginal, and for you to be a church music director, you do have to know something about music. Plus, the guy did work hard, when he worked for the church 5 days a week, and has had to travel 2 1/2 hours between Milwaukee and Beloit, which are the 2 locations of the church. Brian Mansfield from US Today’s “Idol Chatter,” who was interviewed for the “From Idol to Inspiraton” special on the Gospel Music Channel, says that Idol support is strongest in the states where evangelical Christianity is strongest; plus people vote for those who have the kind of character that a person of faith exhibits, which is also the kind of thing Idol seems to like and promote. Also, if you remember the story of why Danny auditioned, he wasn’t going to. His wife encouraged him, and his pastor, after her death, encouraged him to try out so he can find something to focus on after having lost his wife. He also said in his audition piece that he hoped that, through him, people could see who his wife was. Phil Stacey also knew little about secular music until he became Musician Third Class in the Navy. He did pretty well in the Navy as well as on Idol. Danny will do pretty well, too. He will increase his repertoire the more he gets to perform. Idol is supposed to be about finding someone with a talent and help them develop into a star. Remember Kellie Pickler, who during Rod Stewart week showd that she did not even know what lyrics were? I am sure she knows now, and she is doing pretty well. Whether Danny wins the title or not, he will not be forgotten, and I can only see him get bigger and better with time.

Sure, Danny is sheltered, doesn’t have exposure to such songs, was one of those kids in school that would be sidelined when there’s a group hug or whatever, blah blah blah…the fact remains that he is 29 (so is he 29 or 30, since he celebrated his birthday during the AI season?), and should have more life experience than to continue to be the ‘sideliner’. At Danny’s age, one doesn’t whine. There are people his age with worst problems than just forgetting the lyrics to a song, and THEY DON’T GIVE EXCUSES, nor expect people to give excuses for them.

Adam was a ‘weird kid’ in high school, which means he probably didn’t have a fun time in school either. Did he whine about it, or did he use it as a shout-out to other kids out there? Adam’s responses to the tabloids, paps and performance critiques show a maturity admirable for his age and his professionalism.

At this point of the competition, the Danny hate just grows, including mine, because the fact is people are questioning whether he can be the next American Idol. You screw up, you take the punches. That’s why people liked his response to Ryan questioning him about The Scream, ‘cos that was a mature response……up to the point he kept going on and on about being a ringtone or horror movie scream soundtrack. Danny’s problem is he’s very self-aware, but unaware of poeple’s responses to him, which does not bode well for his career, unless he already plans to be one of those singers like Britney, or sigh, Michael Jackson (can’t use MJ here! :lol_wp:), where they’d blame everything under the sun for their problems, except themselves. And look what happened to their careers when they derailed.

Anyone else with such bratty behaviour probably would have been voted out of the competition by this time, not become a Top 3. Even if Danny is having a meltdown, doesn’t that show he’s not able to handle the heat? How will he survive if and when thrown into deep end of the pool? Instead of growing and becoming more polished over the course of AI, it just seems that he’s showing bronze (or worse, dross) after polishing, rather than gold or silver. Allison, Kris and Adam show professionalism and ability to handle heat during the competition. I loved the way Allison showed her disappointment and angst through her sing-out, and not in whining and excuses, especially with the unjustified flak she’s received from the judges.

Adam and Kris should be applauded. Obviously from my posts, I am a die hard Adam fan. But Kris is totally deserving too. I don’t get the Danny thing. (I feel mean saying that, but I just don’t).

Not to always compare them again, but Kris is also from a religious background. He grew up in a church atmosphere, but he also listened to secular music like the Beatles and others.

To not know secular music and want to compete on American Idol would be a ridiculous notion.

Kris is also an ordinary person who has no professional training on the show.

It’s only American Idol. We’re not electing a world leader. Everything will be alright.

but then, that was the original premise for this showà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦to find an ordinary person with a decent voice and make them a star. Adam is no ordinary person. He has an outstanding voice and he is already a star.

And if it has evolved over the past few years into a search for an extraordinary person who was driven to work their ass off honing their craft and could use a big break, I don’t think that’s a bad thing at all. I am not going to fault Adam because he was prepared and ready for the big show when opportunity finally came a knockin. I enjoy rooting for the person who lives and breathes live music and has paid their dues, I guess.

take your bible sermons to another site. don’t lecture posters

Re: Danny and Idolatry

If Danny is lucky, he’ll go out third and in the half-hearted third place post-finale media rounds, they’ll conveniently not have a chance to swing by the EW office.

In all seriousness, I echo sentiments that Slezak’s interviews with the contestants are very professional and unbiased, although you can usually tell what he’s really thinking if you watch his face closely. However, Kirsten I can’t vouch for, and I hope she is very far away whenever Danny comes to call.

please don’t lecture

Tess, I am so sorry. I knew loss early in life, too. Hated it, and fooled myself that work could be therapy. Now I know I was just stumbling along with the help of friends. So I don’t take exception to that aspect.

I was just annoyed as all hell when Danny said that he felt he could inspire and give hope to viewers, and I just found that a bit presumptuous — because he said it more than once, and volunteers for role modeling make me kinda suspicious. Can’t help it.

If I may, I think the issue I’ve been wanting to bring up is a big fraction of this thread: if Gokey knows nothing at all of pop music, doesn’t know “Billie Jean” off the top of his head — come on. Can a singer with talent who has no interest in pop music be American Idol?

I don’t think we’ve seen a battle of musical viewpoints since season 5, when Taylor really brought his R&B background to bear, Kat was lucky enough to happen on to “Black Horse,” and Elliott insisted against Clive’s advice to perform “I Believe to My Soul.”

No one but Allison and Adam came out with a song like they were holding in their heart for years and were like, ahhh! Now I get to show you how this song made me love singing.

All I heard this season was excuses when the judges called them out for being disconnected with the song — duh, I just learned this song yesterday. That does not speak well for your musicianship, guys.

I really don’t know. I have posted repeatedly about Danny’s technique, which I think is sound, and certainly well-developed from years of weekly ministry before a roomful of people that he is meant to motivate and rally. He should have gone ahead and chosen popular worship songs in the genre weeks, sorry to repeat myself, Michael English or Steven Curtis Chapman or whoever did not have a song with electric guitar he could have insisted on?

Original UK show was called Pop Idol. I know that luckily for us and 19, the original criteria for the show were destroyed by the death of boyband pop and diva-wannabe chic. I do say Danny’s a qualified singer. But without any sense of popular music, any background or interest in it at all, isn’t that at all part of the job description? I don’t take any joy in rhetorically zoning Danny out. I’m really asking.

again, stop lecturing

The word is called à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“polished.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  No, Danny isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t as polished as Adam; but then, that was the original premise for this showà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦to find an ordinary person with a decent voice and make them a star. Adam is no ordinary person. He has an outstanding voice and he is already a star. I would much rather see Kris or Danny win. But then again, JMO. I have had him selected to win on the pool; but that doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t matter to me.

Let’s just pull up random people off the street and let them sing then!! American Idol has rules and regulations for contestants and Adam was let in under these rules, so was David Cook (who had his own record), David Archeluta (who won Star Search), Allison, Carly, etc. They were not signed artists under a contract. They came in under the rules, so they are qualified contestants. They are not cheating. The premise of the show is to find a singing Idol, a recording star, the most talented of the bunch…not a sentimental favorite who finally learned the lines to a song and got a new hairdo.

Sorry, but this irks me to no end. Its just as bad as getting an A plus for effort, makes no friggin sense to me.

STOP lecturing posters

Sorry, but this irks me to no end. Its just as bad as getting an A plus for effort, makes no friggin sense to me.

I’ve got six words for you: A plus plus!

NOLA
May 12th, 2009 at 1:27 am
For the life of me, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really understand all the negativity towards Danny, when you are all sure Adam has this win in the bag.

The only 1 i wanted to win was allison.I dont like danny if he is such a great christian why does he lie?I hate people who lie and to flat out lie to go farther in idol is sick.Go pray for him his winning means more to him then being a good christian.

I certainly don’t think Adam has this thing in the bag.

Every year there is a designated punching bag usually because of something or things that they’ve done., or a perceived lack of talent, etc. Reference, McPhee, Katherine, Malakar, Sanjaya. Certainly Danny isn’t above it all.

Adam certainly get’s his fair share, and at least he’s talented, lol.

I

expect him to depend on his parents, pastor, brothers/sisters, friends, basically other people to help him, rather than doing his best to help himself.

I don’t understand what you mean by this?

edit: Don’t criticize posters

Anyway, all the hate sparked my interest in Danny. Someone asked yesterday where they could find information on Danny. This is all I’ve read:

He comes from a large family of four sisters and one brother. He has 12 neices and nephews. He drove a tractor trailor when he wasn’t working in the church. He spent a few years working with needy/low income kids in the Milwaukee school district. He was with his wife for 11 years (married 4). She died while/after? having a pacemaker put in. Doctors had told her it was not safe for her to have children until she had the operation. She had wanted him to audition for Idol, one of her favorite shows, and was looking forward to him doing so in August, but she died in July. He asked his pastor if he should do it because he wasn’t sure he could. The pastor said he encouraged him mostly just because he thought that it would keep him focused on something else instead of the tradgedy.

Ricky Minor ( I think) said something about Danny being from a lower middle class family…I took this to mean low income. I wondered why Danny didn’t go back to his high school for the homecoming. I looked up his high school and I’m figuring this is probably not one of the high schools that Milwaukee wants to showcase–predominantly minority population with VERY low test scores.

The only 1 i wanted to win was allison.I dont like danny if he is such a great christian why does he lie?I hate people who lie and to flat out lie to go farther in idol is sick.Go pray for him his winning means more to him then being a good christian.

My fav got the boot early, too…Anoop. As a Christian, I am not going to second guess Danny’s Christianity. I don’t know him from Adam. (That was funny!) None of us know these kids. We haven’t walked in their shoes. IMO, there are 3 very talented contestants left and I wish them ALL luck tonight. I just hate to hear how one deserves it more than another. They have all come to this point in the competition together. They all have great fans and they all deserve to be where they are.

For the life of me, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really understand all the negativity towards Danny, when you are all sure Adam has this win in the bag.

Like Steve, I think it was Alison’s spot. I was pretty torn if I wanted Adam or Alison should win, but I thought the finals should be the two of them.

Also, I think all the hate is because the judges have endless pimped him and forced him down our throats, people are rebelling.

If it’s the pimping that you’re upset about, then how do you think Kris feels? He is like the red-headed step child. Poor darlin’

How do you think kris feels after danny came out and said he laughed all nite about that NOTE.Never said nothing about how he messed up that DUET.

I do not feel bad about allison.She got far she has the drive to take this far.
THE KID DID GREAT.Went out like a champ and i hope idol can get her a pink duet.SHE EARNED IT.

Like many here, I’m also mystified as to why Danny would even try to sing any song in front of a large televised audience when he only knew a few lines of that song.

However, despite this major performance gaffe, this will have next to no negative impact on his AI popularity, imo. His large core group of fans will still vote enthusiastically for him and might be motivated by this incident to vote even harder. Meanwhile, most casual fans will be unlikely to make the effort to search out online videos of him.

Allison will be just fine.

Oh, I know Allison will be fine. She will be more than fine. I just rather be listening to her than Danny for a few more weeks.

I think Allison will out seller everyone this season with the possible exception of Adam. I think it depends a lot on how they are marketed.

How do you think kris feels after danny came out and said he laughed all nite about that NOTE.Never said nothing about how he messed up that DUET.

I feel for Kris, I get your point. Did you see how Danny just ignored Kris during the duet, while Kris tried to interact with Danny. I actually think it was another moment of Danny’s cluelessnes and not on purpose.

lol galaxygrrl
I promise not to talk politics; but that is a passion of mine. LOL

skylight1219, I watched Huckabee on Saturday night and he and his wife are supporting Kris. Of course, he was the former Gov. of Arkansas; but it was cute.

Not only does he try to do things he just canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t do, he actually thinks heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s GOOD at it. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t imagine trying to cut an album with someone like that.

He’ll need more auto-tune than a Lil Wayne album, guaranteed. His ambition writes checks that his vocals can’t cash.

show me the money, d.b.

To echo a lot of people here, it’s not just that he forgot the lyrics, it happens to everyone. A great version of “Mack The Knife,” is by Ella Fitzgerald in Berlin and she forgets the lyrics, we know this because she sings that she’s forgotten the lyrics and starts making some up and scatting and it’s a GREAT song in the end. And she forgot the lyrics because, IIRC, it was a new to her song, but she didn’t have sheet music to try and learn it and when she forgot it, she just went with it and the audience loved her version of it anyway.

So it’s not that I don’t get forgetting the lyrics for one song, per se, but evidently he is forgetting them for several songs and they are classics to rock, but why pick songs you don’t know? And why cover so badly about it? Other than you think more of your talents than perhaps you should, and you don’t have the wherewithal to cover for your lack of them. Which was his problem with Dream On and The Scream.

I promise not to talk politics; but that is a passion of mine. LOL

And while this is sappy, but don’t we live in a great country that we can even have this discussion.

I think people have that reaction to Danny’s faith because it is such a part of him, and I suspect it’s the blind zealousness of a perceived Christian fan base that people react to. Danny has a nice voice, but is just not that talented. And has not delivered week after week. Last week was a joke.

On the other hand, every article on Adam is about whether he is gay or not. I have no idea of the gay population is blinding voting for adam, but Adam is much more talented than danny and has consistently delivered quality performances.

As for Kris, I love Kris, I have bought as many Kris songs on iTunes as I have Allison and Adam — OK, maybe i bought one or two more of Allison, but not Adam. I was so bummed that the itunes version “she works hard for the money is not as good as it was on the show.

But now that I find out Mike Huckabee is supporting Kris. . J/K

show me the money, d.b.

Allison, Adam, and Kris made off with it. Split it three ways and booked outta town. Sorry Milwaukee. :cheese1_ee:

I read this blog and the comments a lot but rarely post. I will say this…none of the lackluster who gives a care attitude like there was for a few seasons now…almost feels like Season 4 or 5 is back!

Allison, Adam, and Kris made off with it. Split it three ways and booked outta town. Sorry Milwaukee.:cheese1_ee:

Wow, wouldn’t that be a great show to see live. Chris could open up, get everyone feeling good, then Allison could crank it up, and Adam could bring it home.

But alas, we have Danny instead of Allison tomorrow night.

From what I understand he was working 7 days a week, working at the church and driving a big rig. One of his friends said the only time off he had was on Friday and Sunday nights. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think he was relying on others to support him and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think he is lazy.

Look, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not an invested Danny fan. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m actually pulling for Adam and I believe he will win. I am really just shocked by the irrational Danny hate. For me, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ott.

aek – Hope my explanatory post a few posts down from yours clarifies your impression. I don’t mean to say he’s a slacker, or a freeloader, ok? That would not be right at all, since I certainly do not know Danny’s lifestory.

I don’t hate Danny, hate is too strong a word, and not one i use freely. I just feel that Danny doesn’t deserve to be in the Top 3, ‘cos he gave a seriously bad performance on Rock night, and Allison paid the price, even tho’ it was her night to RAWK, and she did it very well, even to a non-rock lover like me. There were some who gave the excuse that it was just one lousy performance, and he deserved another chance, and it angered me, ‘cos if Danny plans to make singing his career, he can’t screw up that way, plus hurting Kris by overpowering him in the last notes of the duel, and not be taken to task for it. Not only that, he’s still screwing up now in this video, in front of his fans too, to add insult to injury. He really ought to prepare for his concert, and even if it was a requested song that he din expect, he should be savvy enough by now, after all these AI weeks, to smooth over his faux pas on his own, and not just depend on other people (in this case, the back-up singers), and add in gospel riffing to boot.

I’m waiting to see how he performs after Rock night, ‘cos he’s in Top 3 now based solely on his fanbase. And if he doesn’t up his game, or gives excuses again for average performance (his performances better be more than just average), then I think he’s not respecting his fans.

Wow, wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that be a great show to see live. Chris could open up, get everyone feeling good, then Allison could crank it up, and Adam could bring it home.

But alas, we have Danny instead of Allison tomorrow night.

It would have been the feel good episode of the year, a lovefest. Imagine, though, the resentment that would be coming their way from the Gokey people. I fear for Adam and Kris if they beat Gokey because that #1 spot is Gokey’s spot. No amount of off-key screaming, lyric-forgetting, unimaginitive-arranging, self-aggrandizing, self-serving-revisionism can excuse a Gokey loss.*

The more I think of it the happier I am for Allison, she left at the perfect time and what we lose in great American Idol moments we will gain one thousand-fold in post-Idol enjoyment.

*I’m sure Danny is, outside of the show, a great guy. :smile2_tb:

I’m sorry, but how is it a “request” to sing “Billie Jean” when he already had the lyrics on a sheet on stage? That does not fly….

I’m not getting the whole “sheltered from secular music” thing. Anyone remember The Clark Brothers who won NGAB? If I remember correctly, they didn’t even go to regular school because their father was/is a traveling preacher. They kicked ass on every single song they did in every single genre. They learned it, they practiced it and they put their heart and soul into every note and every lyric. I don’t think that Danny has a lack of knowledge or exposure to other music, I just don’t believe that he has any love or respect for music in general. It doesn’t seem like he ever truly thought of it as a career. He doesn’t strive to be an artist because he never wanted to truly be one.

And while this is sappy, but donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t we live in a great country that we can even have this discussion.

galaxygrrl, you made me smile with that statement.
Have a great day!

“Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s only American Idol. Weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re not electing a world leader. Everything will be alright.”

This is hysterical and so true. Too many comments to read……

This video shows me Danny’s not ready for the title. Doesn’t make him a bad person… just not the best contestant at this stage.

Undiscovered, unpolished musicians are some of my favorite contestants on the show – I love watching their growth as performers. But I do want the winner to have musical AND performance skill. Call me crazy!

Look, I think Danny’s done well to advance so far on AI, having to learn every song from scratch. But even without “pop music” knowledge, he’s far from an inexperienced musician and entertainer. As a professional worship leader, Danny is actually very experienced at working a stage, a crowd, and a band. Anytime you are singing/playing in front of people, you might botch the song, or the lyrics, or both. You have to learn how to cover, or be willing to start over. This takes experience, confidence, and self-awareness.

If Danny had even a pinch of common sense and self-awareness, he would have done what other Idol contestants do at this stage – perform the songs you’ve been performing on Idol. They’re rehearsed, you know them, the audience knows them, and you can do them in your sleep. Important when you’re running on fumes – 2 hours sleep or less. Instead, Danny performed a set of music he doesn’t know, with a live band no less, while being filmed for the most popular TV show in the US. That’s not courageous – it’s not risk taking – it’s hubris.

Had to look in and see what the fuss what about. It wasn’t that bad. Kind of had a raw energy that I liked. It would be a shame if he won instead of Adam though because they’re not at the same level. On the other hand, he’s not strangling puppies so I won’t make judgments.

I actually enjoyed this mess.

(Congrats AI for generating another contest for the finale when it’s been obvious who will win this thing since week 1)

Oh one comment on he dresses like a truck driver
That was his job before Idol.

Well said, solitaire. Thank you.

Two things that should be noted:

2. Danny, at the beginning of the song (in the actual video from Fox, not the conveniently shorter video from the crowd) says à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really know the words to this song, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll give it my best shot for you guysà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

With all due respect…. if that is his best it proves the point he shouldn’t be in the top 3. What bothers me is he didn’t forget the lyrics. He didn’t know them. He has no idea how out of his depth he is. A true performer can cover when he forgets lyrics. Too bad Kris wasn’t there to cover for him when he didn’t know the words this time.

He sings a song he knows he doesnt know the words to. He attempts a song he knows he cant hit the glory note on. Seems he has no sense of professionalism and not a lot of respect for the audience he is performing for. I hate the whole “churchy” vibe at the end of that vid. If I wanted to be saved Id watch any televangelist on any tv on any day at just about any time. They give me the creeps. At least Jim and Tammy Faye from the PTL club made me laugh. Hard. Now THAT was pure entertainment. Id pay good money to get that on re-runs.

I dont like Danny Gokey and its not about his religion. Its about how he has pimped his religion and his tragedy openly and publicly and he has done it, I believe, to further himself. Ewwwwwww.

The way he stepped all over Kris in their duet together was a huge turn off and I think he has some narcissism going on. It all about Danny. Smug. Thats what I think of Danny.

If he wins im gonna pack up my bunny patch, zip up my bat tent and secret decoder ring, put on my bunny slippers and leave Idol behind. For good. Never again will I watch that crap show. Hell no. At least not until next january.

Tess, heartfelt sympathy for your loss and you said it all. Im thinking of you.

Interesting.

The followings are some interesting phrases I read at the faithbuilder website which Danny is a part of: Interpret as you like

Selected phrases from the blog
Pastor Steve Munsey told Mancow that Danny wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t go on the show unless he mentioned Faith Builders & Jeff Pruitt at least two times in the interview.

he is preparring to be the next American Idol for the glory of God! All he ask for is our prayer! Go Danny!

Selected phrases from the comments section
Anyway- I have been praying for his voice every day since the scream!!! I really believe God wants to use him he has a message of hope.

You saw his talent, you sent him out to sing and now he is deployed to be salt and light in the world

http://fbimblog.com/

bambambam: I have posted repeatedly about Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s technique, which I think is sound

I must not have seen your previous posts about his technique, so my apologies for that. But I wonder if you might give a brief summary of why you think his technique is sound, because what I’ve heard from him is the worst, or very close to the worst, breath control and pitch control of the whole batch of them.

… which is why I, for one, am upset that he has made it this far — for weeks now, he has taken up a spot that should have been occupied by better singers, while/because the judges have lied (“pitch perfect”) or dissembled (“A for effort”) about the (lack of) quality of his performances.

d.b.cooper: The more I think of it the happier I am for Allison, she left at the perfect time and what we lose in great American Idol moments we will gain one thousand-fold in post-Idol enjoyment.

Very well said — I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. I’ve been trying to drown last week’s sorrows by thinking this kind of thought.

thanks for reading that, MK88, so I didn’t have to. How I interpret? Disgusting. Danny’s actions speak so much louder than his words. The only thing he will be is a bright light in our eyes and salt in our wounds.

Thank you PoorKitty. You said what I’ve been trying to say – but succintly.

Brevity is not one of my gifts. :rolleyes_wp:

Gingerly

Glad to be of service. :clap_tb: I have taken the bullet for the others so they would not need to go through that if they do not want to.

Being a non American and non Christian I found it amusing people would mix AI with getting the blessing of God. I come from a very conservative family and I tell you – my family would be scandalize if anyone of us would think of using pop culture to preach.

Regarding the interesting phrases from the faithbuilders site…..

Just kill me now.

>>I really believe God wants to use him he has a message of hope.>>

What Im hoping for is that my cat recovers after the scream last week. He’s still hiding under the couch.

He spent a few years working with needy/low income kids in the Milwaukee school district.

That’s actually vey admirable. It might have been a better idea to focus more on that than on the grieving widower aspect because there would be less potential for backlash. Of course, as I’ve said before, I only partly fault Danny for dead-wife-pimping because everyone knows how AI producers love to take a stories like that and exploit the living hell of them.

Disclaimer: I am not a “Danny hater” — but I am a Adam voter. I accept that Danny may have a good heart, but this is a singing competition.
As a long-time gospel music fan – I have been surprised that this thread, fanboards, etc. are filled with comments about how Danny is a great at gospel or “worship” music. A GMA Dove Award show feature does not make you a “Gospel” singer.

The “myth of Danny is great in HIS genre — worship music” seems to be accepted as fact. IMO this is not correct. Danny’s “worship” music performance that have been shown, including his 2006 Fox TV “Oh Holy Night” (not Gospel) — clearly well-produced — is not impressive.

There is a lot of great Gospel and Christian music. This IS gospel music, “Let It Rise” by William Murphy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YciWtd7Kpb8

The best place for Danny to leave is third. It would deprive AI of that glorious Adam/Danny finale they’ve been gunning for. It would allow Gokey to make the kind of Christian music he wants, not the pop drivel they’ll make him do.

An Adam/Kris finale would be pleasant but a complete yawner in terns of suspense. An Adam/Danny finale would just make for another week of Danny hatred and boring media articles about homophobia and America’s first gay Idol. So peversely, I’m rooting for the Adam/Kris finale and may even throw my first votes of S8 to …Kris.

I think what has made the backstories jump out more this year is how little theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve put out there about the other contestants. Think of Lilà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’outside of her being married with kids and having a house destroyed by a tornado we donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know a single thing about her.

But isn’t that the same level of detail “we know” about Gokey? Gokey had a wife and she died. Gokey has a large family. Maybe, we know Gokey was a worship leader.

I think it’s important to try to distill what we know about the contestant from the show and what we know about the contestant from the internet. IMO, Lil was boring and a non-threat to win, so I’m not stunned people haven’t been digging up info about her. Kris never got a back-story. That sucks, but wasn’t the die cast long ago? We’ve been rather bereft of back-stories since the initial auditions/Hollywood rounds.

The reason I think that it’s important to distill show info from internet info is that I think that VAST bulk of American Idol viewers only know what the show told them and they’ve probably forgotten 97% of that by now. If we are talking pimping, I think that only what the show does is relevant. If VFTW finds a video of somebody singing in the bathroom, that’s fun for the internet, but I don’t think that the show needs to take the rap for pimping their most excellent bathroom singing skills (or most awful).

IMO, backstories help you get past those initial rounds. Some people like Kris and Allison have the instant likability and talent to survive the early rounds with little to no backstories, but AI likes to make sure its favourites have a solid backstory to help ensure they don’t slip through the cracks before their performances can win them fans. It only works so long, though, IMO. If sob-stories were the total ticket to success, Pickler would have won Season 5 and our final three would consist of Michael, Gokey and Lil.

I think, by this point in the competition, people who have survived this long have built up a fan base based on performance. I don’t care for Danny myself, but I appreciate that people like artists I don’t like (the only explanation for Michael Bolton, Kenny G, Brittany and Led Zeplin that keeps me sane). I don’t fault Danny fans for voting like fiends last week despite the Scream-to-end-all-screams because I suspect that if any of the other contestants had had a trainwreck, some of their more enthusiastic fans would have voted just as hard for them. Sure, they might have felt bad that Allison went home instead of their Idol, but they would have felt that their Idol deserved another chance and didn’t think they should be booted due to one mistake. Granted, I think Danny has made other mistakes, but maybe his fans don’t. Sometimes fans wear rose-coloured glasses and sometimes they just kind of have no taste (don’t forget The Huff has sold a lot of records). Not to say I’m saying Gokey fans have no taste, they just have different taste than me.

I think it’s funny that Danny forgot the words to Beat It. Who knows why he sang it? Perhaps the band had been practicing for some other concert they are doing and suggested it and he thought he knew it. Or maybe he was going to learn it, but he ran out of time. Or maybe he did know the words, but his two hours of sleep fried his brains. Sure, Kris had only two hours of sleep, but we are not created equal. I function fine on two hours of sleep. My husband shouldn’t be allowed to operate something as simple as a toothbrush after two hours of sleep. It was a concert that was going to be edited. Perhaps the editors will include the messed up song (though, it would be difficult to drive that point home with 10 seconds of footage), but the concert was mainly for the fan faithfuls who showed up. They probably weren’t offended (just as I love Ella’s “Mack the Knife” and Frank’s hilarious cover of her messed up lyrics).

Personally, I hope Kris wins this thing. I find him the most pleasant to listen to and he seems the most commercial today. Sure, I’ve read for years about how such-and-such an Idol is going to re-invent the current music biz, but I’ve seen how well that worked. So, I don’t have a lot of faith in that theory anymore. So, I’ll go with the guy who seems to fit the current music scene, but I won’t be shocked or angry if he doesn’t win (I think he faces very long odds).

Not a good way to court David Cook voters.

I’m a David Cook fan, but like MJ, DC’s version never once crossed my mind as I was watching this clip.

I don’t know whether to feel sorry for Danny or feel sorry for TPTB for pushing him in this contest. He’s obviously fodder and I won’t be at all surprised if the bus comes for him tonight.

Also, amen to the poster above who said that this debating has brought excitement to this season of AI, making it more like season 4 or 5– yeah, I remember the Bo vs. Carrie stuff, almost like red state vs. blue state, and a lot of generalizations about the supporters’ value systems, etc., but lots of fun, too!

A couple of Kris-leading-worship videos have just surfaced. Have y’all seen them?

I love this blog! Everyone has really well thought out and good comments whether positive or negative and after reading this entire thread I can, for certain, say that I haven’t been offended by a single post.

I’m just a bit sad that the casual viewer of AI doesn’t have the opportunity to get to see all of the ins and outs of the contestants like the online world does. The only thing they get to vote on is what they see on their TV screen. They only “know” the contestants through minor snippets of video, random chair sittings, their performances, and the judges critiques. They don’t know they are being manipulated so they just vote the way they are “led” to.

We can go on and on with our comments but this year’s winner has already been determined. They started pushing Danny from the minute he walked in with his sympathetic back story and the casual viewers just ate it up. Ask any AI viewer who Danny is and they will say, “oh the guy whose wife died”. None of them really care about his talent since they trust AI and the judges to tell them he is good. Oh well, it is what it is.

Reminder:

I edited out all of the OTT political and religious stuff. Let’s stick to the topic.

edit: stay on topic

Kirsten. I love your post but I disagree about the winner. I think Adam should win this thing. In terms of what his post Idol career looks like, that’s their problem. The rushed albums finalists put out are meh or utter dreck. So it’s a TV show for me at this point. Just like for 90% of the viewers.

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I find myself hoping Kris wins too. I love Adam, love him more than Kris but Im not sure that winning is the best thing for Adam. He will do fine at this point. Its ok if its Kris and Adam in the finals. Anyone but Danny.

You know the purpose of American Idol is to take a person with singing talent and propel them to stardom.
Danny certainly has enough talent as does Kris and Adam. So Danny still has much to learn. He is qualified to grow to his full potential. I believe there is so much more in him than we have seen.
Any of the former idols were not at their full potential, but grew into it more and more. When you take Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson, they did not quite have the star persona. There was alot of karaoke.
But now the star mantle is evident in their seasoned voices and in their performances.
There are those of us Danny fans that believe he has enough talent to get there.

edit: UGH. Stop lecturing

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just a bit sad that the casual viewer of AI doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have the opportunity to get to see all of the ins and outs of the contestants like the online world does. The only thing they get to vote on is what they see on their TV screen. They only à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“knowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  the contestants through minor snippets of video, random chair sittings, their performances, and the judges critiques

I actaully think that’s a healthier,more enjoyable way to watch a simple reality TV show like American Idol!

Doesnt mean we always have the expected results at the end of the season, but why should the casual viewer be interested in every titbit background info…I certainly am not, even though I enjoy all the blogs for a chuckle
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please don’t comment on my modding

Ask any AI viewer who Danny is and they will say, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“oh the guy whose wife diedà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . None of them really care about his talent since they trust AI and the judges to tell them he is good. Oh well, it is what it is.

They may know him because of that but everyone I know irl seems to love Danny’s voice and even his personality. I favored Anoop and then Allison throughout but I was a minority with my friends/co-workers. I still can see the attraction for Danny because he doesn’t annoy me like he does a lot of people on the internet and I like his voice. I would say that the f2 should be Danny & Adam because I don’t think Kris has the voice. I don’t find him all that current because there’s already a Jason Mraz who has a much more interesting voice and I don’t see that Kris brings anything more to the table voice-wise. I do think he could have a future with arranging songs.

We can go on and on with our comments but this yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s winner has already been determined.

I think that’s Adam. Simon said that Adam was the only person he cared about. Simon said that no one could touch Adam after Adam performed last week but before anyone else took the stage.

Simon said that Adam had the power to save Allison, and then kept throwing Adam’s name in during various times last week on the show.

Adam’s has performed at the end of the show or towards the end of the show a lot. More than any other contestant this year.

Danny has at least performed all thorughout the line up, including going first/performing at the front a few times.

I think that TPTB predetermined winnner is Adam, they pimp him all the time, IMO more than Danny. I think that they would be fine with Danny making the finale, but at this point more than anything they just want Adam to win.

Adam may win; but I don’t think it will be a blowout. Kris and Danny share that Christian vote and when one goes, the other will suck the votes right up. Not all of them; but a very good portion. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.

I don’t think Adam will win. If Kris goes out this week, his supporters will vote for Danny. If Danny goes out, I know his voters will vote for Kris.

echo LOL

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just a bit sad that the casual viewer of AI doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have the opportunity to get to see all of the ins and outs of the contestants like the online world does. The only thing they get to vote on is what they see on their TV screen. They only à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“knowà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  the contestants through minor snippets of video, random chair sittings, their performances, and the judges critiques. They donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know they are being manipulated so they just vote the way they are à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“ledà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  to.

I don’t think the viewers need to be manipulated by the chatter on the internet either. The internet blogs are just too ugly anymore.
People are really better off to just watch the show, enjoy it, make their own minds up, and not read too much into the idol’s little bit of screen time. I don’t believe the casual viewers are that dumb not to know AI tries to pimp who they want. But they like who they like, and then vote for their own pick.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam will win. If Kris goes out this week, his supporters will vote for Danny. If Danny goes out, I know his voters will vote for Kris.

I don’t think that Adam will win, either. If Danny didn’t go home after one mediocre (at best) and one awful performance last week, and Allison did, after having two great performances and never being in the bottom? There isn’t any stopping the Gokey express. And given this video, I think it’s clear that being the AI winner will not be a good fit for him. At least Taylor Hicks could put on a great live show, or so I’ve heard. Danny can’t even do that with two songs that are rock legends.

I love this blog! Everyone has really well thought out and good comments whether positive or negative and after reading this entire thread I can, for certain, say that I havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been offended by a single post.

I agree… I love the healthy discussion here and thank you MJ for maintaining and keeping things going.

From a poster – they said that according to Randy Jackson and other sites, Danny was the top 2 vote getter … … … … I suddenly feel very, very afraid. Not afraid that Adam will lose the title but it’s more of a sinking hope for the public and for American Idol. Is he really the person they see as a best fit for American Idol? Is everyone really appreciating Danny’s talents? I’m baffled and confused if it’s true.

This is gonna be good. LOL

That Danny HAD lyrics in the FIRST place is damning.
Trying to use the LOSS of them as an excuse is risible.

Adam will win. He’s got too much of a lead. It’s the same dynamic as Season 3. When LaToya London was out at Top 4, the foregone winner became Fantasia and there really was no scenario in which Fantasia would not win.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam will win. If Kris goes out this week, his supporters will vote for Danny. If Danny goes out, I know his voters will vote for Kris.

I agree that the votes will shift, but I don’t think it will be that simple. Many voters will not vote after their person is out. Of those who do vote, I think, if Danny is out, his voters will mostly vote for Kris. If Kris is out, the people who continue voting will split. People voting for Kris who are voting for the music/talent will vote for Adam because he is more talented than Danny. People who are voting for Kris primarily because they are loyal to his Christian community group will likely vote for Danny.

Adam has to make it past tonight’s vote first.
This could be the first real shocker of the season.
It would be worth it to see Simon’s face.

If one loves Adam the most, then why wouldn’t you want him to win knowing how much it means to him. He’s been a struggling artist – just a background singer – and he to is going from a nobody to a somebody.

19 and TPTB will have the same hold on Adam whether he leaves tonight or is the winner. He really wants this – to him it would be validation he said. Validation that he could just win by being himself and being the best singer. The wierd, unpopular High School kid who has been made fun of his whole life being able to gain validation. I can’t see how any fan of Adam’s would ever say he’d be better off not winning.

I think tonight is the biggest hurdle for Adam. I think Danny is a lock. But I’m not so sure American will vote for the wierd Hollywood kid, over southern generic clean boy. But if he does get to the finale, I find it ignorant to think that all Danny or all Kris ways would vote one way or another. Hate to tell you, but a lot of Christians are Adam fans. And if Adam leaves, I’d vote a ton for Danny over Kris. I think Danny has a lot of talent, but Kris has gotten by on his looks and puppy dog “awe shucks”. Kris took a lot of people’s places by playing the poor me heart throb. I can buy that from Archie at 17, but not a 23 yr old married guy. Kris so took the spot from Allison. The show would be more a joke if Kris won.

From a poster – they said that according to Randy Jackson and other sites, Danny was the top 2 vote getter à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ I suddenly feel very, very afraid.

This is another bogus fact posted online and flying around. Randy did say that Adam was in the lead on yesterday’s Today Show interview and I think that that led to the assumption that he said Danny was #2.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know whether to feel sorry for Danny or feel sorry for TPTB for pushing him in this contest. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s obviously fodder and I wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be at all surprised if the bus comes for him tonight.

That is what makes me laugh.I can’t see the great people in the music biz wanting to work with danny(I could be wrong).I think its funny that ryan said on friday adam is the favorite but america loves a underdog(kris)never said a word about danny.I think the danny bus did get gased up.I think the votes went adam kris danny allison.That would say they didnt want to scare his base.Now i’m sure they saw and heard about danny on friday.The music biz is hard work and alot of it.

If TPTB want danny in the finale they will air this clip at the 28.40 mark video on right of screen
http://www.fox6now.com/shows/fox/americanidol/dannygokey/witi-090508-gokey-miller-park,0,7984127.story

That for sure would get him in the finale and most likely the win.

Steve, I tried to watch this but you actually can’t FF to the 28.40 mark. I’m not interested in watching 28.39 of things I’ve already watched to get to this piece. Can you either put up a clip or let people know what is at 28.40?

They may know him because of that but everyone I know irl seems to love Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s voice and even his personality

I think that Danny has a very big fanbase. And I also think that there are a lot of casual voters that like him okay. And I think that most of them probably don’t dislike him as a person even if some of them don’t care for his singing.

I think that to a lot of them, probably most think that Danny seems like a normal enough/decent enough guy, even if some of them don’t care for his style of singing. And I think that for them Danny hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t done anything to disprove that since he has been on the show, not anything that would cause a lot of them to start disliking him.

TKat
May 12th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Steve, I tried to watch this but you actually canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t FF to the 28.40 mark. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not interested in watching 28.39 of things Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve already watched to get to this piece. Can you either put up a clip or let people know what is at 28.40?

It is a clip of a sick little girl that meets danny.That would be very nice but it just happens that her name is the same has danny’s wife sophie

>>If one loves Adam the most, then why wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t you want him to win knowing how much it means to him.>>

Well, I dont really know how much it means to him.

>>Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s been a struggling artist – just a background singer – and he to is going from a nobody to a somebody.>>

True that but he has already accomplished that. If your in the final 4 you already got what you needed and truth be told, Adam’s star is rising whether he wins this thing or not.

I know what he said about validation but that too has already been accomplished.

Winning AI also carries a stigma and if your a Kelly or a Carrie that stigma will be overshadowed by your enormous success but I think winning this thing makes shaking that stigma much harder than coming in 2nd or 3rd and then busting loose.

He has to know that there are a lot of close minded people out there who, for a voariety of reasons, wont like him or his style or his black nail polish etc. The fact that he made it this far with this much buzz has got to make him smile. He’s a smart guy.

He cant even freakin throw a ball right, throwing it over the pitchers head, I could even do better than that, and I am an older woman! hmy_tb:

@ JohnM, I compare Allison and Danny in vocal technique. They both need a certain amount of air going through to create and control the note. That’s why occasionally you hear a slight squeak at the end of a note as the air gives out. But we’ve trained ourselves to hear that as emoting because the effort of making the note goes along with the narrative of the song. Joe Cocker, Ray Charles, these people torture the note, and we like it.

I kind of posted persistently because a series of people were saying Danny had no talent whatsoever, and I can’t dismiss him out of hand. I say he’s like very very out of fashion singers like Michael Bolton. Who had more range, pitch and control, of course. But also got bashed a lot on principle. I just wanted to establish that it wasn;t exactly coming from outer space that Danny could be winner, for his singing and not for his back story. This of course was before Scream On.

My big issue with the show now is that after the competition has all but run its course, the potential winner, like, NEVER even once sang a song that was truly an inspiration to him? That’s crazy.

TPTB really screwed the pooch this time. They thought personal backstory trumped MUSICAL backstory. No one but Adam and Allison — and poor eliminated Alexis — brought out a song that was an emblem of what singing and music meant to them at the core, and waved it like a banner. That’s what I’m interested in. You are at the plate now, Idol finalist, what song is the song you will sing if it’s the last song you sing in your life? That should be the crux of the competition, and TPTB made it the last thing on the list.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sorry, but how is it a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“requestà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  to sing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Billie Jeanà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  when he already had the lyrics on a sheet on stage? That does not flyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.

No, but the lyrics apparently do!

If he really does make the finale, I can’t wait for him to the learn the five thousand songs for that week, i.e. the 3 for the judgment show and the 4,997 for the results show!

Danny is becoming a stumbling, bumbling, fumbling, in-over-his-head guy. He’s going to be a disaster if he goes into any genre besides christian adult contemporary. I think Taylor Hicks is a joke in many ways but he has musicality. Danny is just some guy who sings in church and has no clue about music, lyrics, history, etc. After years of AI producing people who were able to earn industry respect via their artistry, even if they were neophytes to recording, Danny is going to be a laughing stock if he doesn’t get a huge clue and fast.

Oh my.

I’d rather hear “Dream On” again than listen to that twice.

Looking for a silver lining for Danny, he’s lucky that lots of Idol viewers pay no attention to the internet.

Even if he did remember all the words to the song, it doesn’t make the arrangement any less cheesy. Total karaoke rendition. Why did he even bother?

I am a Kris fan/power voter. If it is a Adam/Danny finale, I will vote with the power of a million suns for ADAM. Adam is mad talented & I admire him.

I think it would be hysterical to have Danny win this thing though.

koolgurl May 12th, 2009 at 9:49 am

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam will win. If Kris goes out this week, his supporters will vote for Danny. If Danny goes out, I know his voters will vote for Kris.

This Kris fan won’t be. No way no how. Kris or Adam for the win!

This of course was before Scream On.

Ok, this is the first time I’ve heard it called this and I’m dying here with laughter. Seems so obvious, but never crossed my mind. Thank you.

I think that the forces that would power vote for Adam would do the same for Kris if Adam were to be eliminated. Same the other way around. Should Kris be voted off those voters for the most part would vote Adam. There is a bond there.

Sort of what happened in season 5 when E got voted off. Those votes went to Taylor and if T had been voted off then I would have voted Eliott. There was a bond there. No way would I have voted McPhee.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think the viewers need to be manipulated by the chatter on the internet either. The internet blogs are just too ugly anymore.
People are really better off to just watch the show, enjoy it, make their own minds up, and not read too much into the idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s little bit of screen time. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe the casual viewers are that dumb not to know AI tries to pimp who they want. But they like who they like, and then vote for their own pick.

I think that unlike a lot of the Internet viewers, that casual viewers don’t really know more about Danny’s backstory, then what was presented on the show. And I don’t think they care to know. I think that to a lot of them Danny seems like a decent enough person, regardless of whether they like his singing or not.

I think that a lot of them care to know more about his backstory, one reason being because he hasn’t really done anything on the show that they consider incredibly obnoxious. He hasn’t done anything extreme like push Kris off the stage, when they were dueting, or stand in front of Kris, blocking him from the audience, while they were singing.

He didn’t openly mock Allison when she was singing her exit song, and I don’t think that a lot of them think that he was looking smug when he was watching her perform.

I don’t think that a lot of casual voters really think that Danny is a smug and/or bad person.

And as far as I know he hasn’t ever specifically mentioned his church on the show. The most he’s ever really said about his religion on the show is that he wants to be an inspiration to people. He does do the heart symbol with his hands some times, but I doubt that most people know or care what that means.

Especially since contestants in the past, have done symbols and signs on the show. So I don’t think that a lot of casual voters think that he is using his religion to get votes.

I don’t think that a lot of casual voters dislike Danny, and I think that most of them probably think that he is a decent person, even if some of them are not fans of his singing.

I don’t think that a lot of them are going to look for more information on him, a couple of reasons being because he’s not a criminal or involved in some sort of scandal. I think that a lot of them are aware that certain contestants get pimped, but that for the most part they end up voting for who they want regardless of what TPTB do

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that Adam will win, either. If Danny didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t go home after one mediocre (at best) and one awful performance last week, and Allison did, after having two great performances and never being in the bottom? There isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t any stopping the Gokey express.

Alison was in the Bottom 3 for the three times (Final 11, 9 and 7ii) before she got eliminated in the Final 4.

Pastor Steve Munsey told Mancow that Danny wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t go on the show unless he mentioned Faith Builders & Jeff Pruitt at least two times in the interview.

So did Danny do the interview with Mancow? I cannot STAND Mancow. Talk about an egomaniac. I was LMAO when he got fired from Q101.

I actually feel so sorry for Gokey. This is embarrassing! Why didn’t he use wise judgment?!

I love Adam, but I’ve never held any expectation that he would win. I fully expected Danny to be the 4th place elimination shocker & Kris to be the quiet guy who comes out of nowhere with better and better performances to win the whole thing. Only Danny somehow stayed. And Kris is still in it, but how strong? And Adam is getting all the PR, which he deserves, because he has it ALL.

No matter how you cut it, there is a bright side:

Adam wins: he deserved it for being the best of the bunch.
Adam loses: he’s got his fame, his fans, and he’ll get a contract – and he’ll be free of Idol so might be able to make a CD that is truer to himself (like Daughtry did and Taylor didn’t).

Kris wins: fabulous for Kris. He is the one who would benefit the most by winning, I believe.
Kris loses: his good musical sense and placement in top 3 should also get him a contract, maybe independent, but enough for him to build a career on. I mean, if Phil Stacy can support himself w/ music, surely Kris can.

Gokey wins: Taylor Hicks will finally be recognized as the great talent he is, because Gokey will provide plenty of “WTF?” moments.
Gokey loses: he can join Mandisa & others in their Christian music careers & he’ll be fine.

I was at this “mini-concert”. Taken out of context, this video isn’t proof of anything, except that Danny’s repertoire of anything other than Christian worship music is very limited. I’m amazed, and I know he is, too, that’s he made it this far.

I’ve lived in Milwaukee for 30 years. Danny is pure midwest. And so was this impromptu event. It wasn’t a singing performance as much as it was a gathering of 26,000 people on the shores of Lake Michigan, on the first 70 degree day we’d had since October, to celebrate Milwaukee’s moment of Idol fame. It was a party. The lady next to me captured the spirit perfectly when she said, “I bet this is the first AI home visit where the audience is drinking beer and partying like we do at Summerfest. Naaawww, they probably won’t show the beer.”

Danny started by saying that he’d asked a few friends to join him to play and sing back-up for an impromptu “jam” session. This isn’t “his” band. They didn’t practice together. The set list was a quick compilation of what they thought they could get through. So he lost his lyrics and messed up… big f’n deal. The audience didn’t care. The place was rocking. Personally, I’m amazed that he did as well as he did on most of the songs. Prior to AI, Danny had never sung on any kind of professional stage. A few months later, he’s jamming to a crowd of 26,000 screaming fans of all ages. There were bound to be bumps in the road.

Danny has worked incredibly hard to get to this point. He’s not dumb, creepy or smug as much as he is untrained, inexperienced and musically limited. He will grow as a singer and artist as he continues to break out of his worship-leader bubble. I have no doubt that his post-Idol secular music will be more country than pop/rock. Predicting how well he’ll do as a country artist is impossible at this point.

If Adam is the glam-rock of big Vegas show productions, Danny is the headlining act at Branson casinos, rocking the huge outdoor stages at midwest summer festivals and state fairs. He’s to the midwest what Carrie Underwood was to Texas/Oklahoma country music, or Bo Bice was to southern rock.

Danny, Kris and Adam are all equally “deserving” of being where they are, equally representative of the different genres of music America loves. Danny lacks polish, Kris lacks big power and Adam – well, he just can’t lay off the OTT high-pitched wailing.

But they’ve all used AI to help them boost their careers, so good for them. I’ll listen, or watch, each of them post-Idol, in the right context. Good luck to each of them over the next two weeks. They can’t control what TPTB throw at them; all they can do is go out on stage, do the best with what they’re asked to do — and thank the fans who do support them. IOW, do what they’ve been doing.

I know we should stay on topic (sorry!!!) but i have to quickly add….

IF kris leaves on wed (sob), his votes MIGHT go to Adam based on

1) the signs at his homecoming concerts (anti-danny)- just saw two! but they were good enough for a laugh and small insight

2) the anti-danny sentiments on krisallenation (his main fan page, which i believe is run by friends/hometown folks?)

3) from what I have seen on the blogs/msg boards…most people who like kris…also like adam, allison, and matt. in all fairness, i have seenpeople calling kris and danny their top two choices, but not often.

Also, lets look at it this way, based on online polls (usa today, msn, ew, tvguide)…adam is leading the pack at 55-60%, so even if you do combine kris and danny’s votes, it wont take the lead

obviously, online polls could mean squat and are never the exact reflection of call/text votes….but im throwing it out there as a ray of hope to Adam fans

having said all that…boy am i glad its tuesday!!! and at approx 8:59pm PST i will caffinate myself so i can powervote my fingers off for my precious little puppy

How about this: Let’s all teach Idol a lesson and vote for Danny. Danny will then succeed Taylor Hicks as the worst American Idol in history and TBTB will get what they deserve. Adam will be fine; he may even be better off as the second-place finisher.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve lived in Milwaukee for 30 years. Danny is pure midwest. And so was this impromptu event. It wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t a singing performance as much as it was a gathering of 26,000 people on the shores of Lake Michigan, on the first 70 degree day weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d had since October, to celebrate Milwaukeeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s moment of Idol fame. It was a party. The lady next to me captured the spirit perfectly when she said, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I bet this is the first AI home visit where the audience is drinking beer and partying like we do at Summerfest. Naaawww, they probably wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t show the beer.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I live 90 miles south in Chicago, so I’m familiar with hanging at street fairs, drinking beer and catching some live music. However, I have never, ever seen a band that forgot lyrics or didn’t have their sh** together. If they did, they wouldn’t have been invited back, and those slots are heavily sought after by bands. Danny should have done a shorter set within his comfort zone. That would have been the professional thing to do.

This isn’t a “band”; it wasn’t a band performance. Post-idol, it may be. But it isn’t now. So your standards are correct, albeit inapplicable to this situation.

galaxygrrl, you made me smile with that statement.
Have a great day!

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If Danny wins (and I hope beyond all hopes that does not happen), I predict that he will put out one album that will have mediocre sales; a second album that won’t sell – and then he will fade into obscurity. By then maybe my ears will have healed.

If Danny wins (and I hope beyond all hopes that does not happen), I predict that he will put out one album that will have mediocre sales; a second album that wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sell – and then he will fade into obscurity. By then maybe my ears will have healed.

Could say the same about Adam. Although Adam will always get a gig in Las Vegas as a new-age Liberace.

Why are folks so worried about Adam? Win or lose, he’ll have a contract. Doesn’t he transcend this competition? I mean, that’s what the CW states anyway.

“Could say the same about Adam. Although Adam will always get a gig in Las Vegas as a new-age Liberace.”

The only difference here is that Adam has a huge range from rock – how many people could pull off Robert Plant – to Broadway, he was considered the lead for Superman on Broadway now, to Vegas. Adam has talent.

Danny does not have that type of developed talent, and even if you make the arguement that he has raw talent and he has some — he is years away from having Adam’s range, skill or knowledge of music. Maybe he can get there with a lot of work, but he is not there yet.

The difference is that we’re voting. We want our choices to be validated. Also we want to show the world that America isn’t just a bunch of backwater hicks.

Why are folks so worried about Adam? Win or lose, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll have a contract. Doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t he transcend this competition? I mean, thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what the CW states anyway.

For me, I just get the sense he wants to do more than do okay. He wants to win. I want him to win because he is the best and wouldn’t that be nice for a change?