Danny Gokey, Allison Iraheta, Matt Giraud and the Top 10 – Larry King Live – VIDEO

Scott is so funny! Allison is so adorable. Lil is still dull and still stuck on herself. Danny is still a douchenozzle. Anoop is great. Smart and adorable.

Danny, Danny, Danny, I know you are probably not a bad guy…but please learn a little diplomacy. There are times to say certain things, and times to shut it. A “shut it” time would be when Adam is sitting right there in front of you.

Awkward….just awkward.

Wow, Danny came off as kind of a jerk here. I mean, I think he was being honest but he just presented himself so poorly that I can’t help but dislike him after seeing him here. He dissed both Adam AND Kris with his comments about the judges “over-praising” Adam and “underestimating” Kris!

Gokey: “I’m a competitor by nature–”

Seacrest: “So you’re the antithesis of Kris Allen.”

BINGO! Kris and Adam are two of the classiest people I’ve ever seen on TV. They are so different yet so close. Both so gracious and humble–truly refreshing in today’s world of huge egos and huger mouths. Such class acts. And who knew that Kris was so charming and humorous!?!

Allison’s so cute, she was my second favorite after Kris. If she were a year older I’d take her to a fancy dinner date.

interesting what scott said at the end about how last season the contestants hardly spoke to one another

“You jerk!”

Kris, I will love you forever, for that comment.
I want to listen to it on repeat while watching the Allison shove.

I didn’t see anything wrong with Danny’s interview. Danny is awesome and everyone else is too. They were all great.

In Danny’s defense, he *was* put on the spot. What was he going to do – lie live with potential (phone) callers?

Does he need to learn a little diplomacy, yes and, in time, he will.

No harm was done.

Allison just cracked me up by being Allison. She is too adorable. I never imagined that Anoop had such a great sense of humor. Scott was funny as well. Can’t wait for part 2 on Monday.

I don’t think that was Danny’s fault. Seacrest knew very well that Danny had selected Kris to win after he was voted off. Otherwise he wouldn’t have know Danny had named anyone. He set him up to look bad, and I think Danny’s reasoning made sense. He felt that Kris and he were more similar in style than he and Adam and therefore thought his fans might vote for Kris and he thought all of the over the top judges comments might have worked against Adam. He was asked a question on the blog and tried to answer it as honestly as he could. Ryan completely set him up by asking him the question in front of Adam. I don’t think Kris should have called him a jerk.

Allison = superstar

Hopefully posting it makes it so :smiley2_tb:.

Anyway, she got such a bum rap from Simon regarding personality. The word that comes to mind when watching that interview is sparkling.

Good question AmericanIdoltry, who knew Kris was so charming and humerous. Who knew anything about Kris Allen because they never showed him to us until he started winning people over with his performances each week. I love the come from behind aspect of his win, but would like for them to be a bit more equal in air time. Allison was pretty funny in her impersonation of Cindy Lauper.

Loved this interview.

Loved when Lil brought up Danny and the kitchen and Scott added that he can sense chocolate cake a mile away!

Did Lil’s story about her kids make Kris shed a tear? I saw him wipe or scratch his eye a bit.

Wow, Danny came off as kind of a jerk here. I mean, I think he was being honest but he just presented himself so poorly that I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t help but dislike him after seeing him here. He dissed both Adam AND Kris with his comments about the judges à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“over-praisingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Adam and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“underestimatingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Kris!

I thought that he was being honest. I don’t think that he was dissing Adam and Kris. I think that he was telling the truth about what how he thought all of the praising had hurt Adam. I don’t think that he said that as a way to diss Adam. And I actually thought that he was being complimentary towards Kris, when he said that people might have thought that TPTB were underestimating/underrating Kris.

I felt like he was acknowleding Kris’s talent, and IMO, he said nothing that a lot of other people haven’t said or thought. I didn’t think that he dissed Kris by saying that people thought that TPTB underestimated him, anymore than all of the people over the Internet who have said the same

thing. And I don’t think that he dissed Adam either.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that was Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fault. Seacrest knew very well that Danny had selected Kris to win after he was voted off. Otherwise he wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have know Danny had named anyone. He set him up to look bad, and I think Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s reasoning made sense. He felt that Kris and he were more similar in style than he and Adam and therefore thought his fans might vote for Kris and he thought all of the over the top judges comments might have worked against Adam. He was asked a question on the blog and tried to answer it as honestly as he could. Ryan completely set him up by asking him the question in front of Adam. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Kris should have called him a jerk.

I think that you make a lot of excellent points Danny. I think that his reasoning made sense as well and I can understand why he said what he did. I don’t fault him for saying it.

LOL @ “You jerk.” As if I didn’t love Kris enough already.

Ryan knew all about this and set Danny up. From LK’s blog:

Q: Who do you think is going to win?

GOKEY: Well, if I had to answer this one, I honestly believe, and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no fault à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  I just à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  I believe that Kris is going to win tonight. And ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no fault to Adam. I think, you know, Adam deserves it just as much as Kris. But I think, you know, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s with me leaving the show, my fan base, I would
most likely assume they went to Kris.

Q: But this is not an endorsement.

GOKEY: Absolutely. This is not an endorsement. I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t endorse anybody. I purposely didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t endorse anybody, because ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not my decision and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want anybody basing their votes out of spite that maybe I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make it or, maybe a little resentment or à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  because people, they get their hearts involved in this competition, which is a good thing, because that will keep them involved in my music. Honestly, it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bother me either way who wins this thing. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m happy for either one of them.

I liked Danny’s portion of the interview but see ya’lls point about saying he predicted a Kris victory and that Lambert was overpraised being tactless. But I have to look at it in a baby steps type of way, he didn’t say anything about the “Godly” or “right” way. Plus he didn’t mishandle the rocker. Both good things and more than you can say for a week ago.

I hope Kris sells a gazillion albums cause that kid is a class act. And I hope Adam sells a gazillion 1 :wink_wp:

Allison was pretty funny in her impersonation of Cindy Lauper.

I think that Allison did a good job impersonating Cindy Lauper.

I dont see why Kris would call him a jerk when Danny said he picked him to win? What am I missing here?

I dont see why Kris would call him a jerk when Danny said he picked him to win? What am I missing here?
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I think Kris was joking. It seemed like he was.

I think Danny answered honestly because I think there was Backlash against Adam and EVIDENTLY Kris was underestimated.

I feel kind of bad for Danny. He’s going to need to go to therapy after the whole AI thing. He went from endearing widower to most hated man on AI ever in a few weeks and now whenever he googles his name, “douchebag” or some variant comes up right next to it lol

It’s not totally his fault. Editing has a lot to do with it, but he did provide the ammo.

Kris isn’t really popular. He had the same people voting for him over and over again. If America was allowed one vote a piece, Adam would of destroyed him. Adam lives in LA where there’s a million stars. Kris was the only star in Arkansas and they voted for him like mad. He didn’t deserve the win. He won because Arkansas over stuffed the ballot box.

Look at how Adam dominates ITunes. Kris is nowhere near him and will be a failure with his career. I’m willing to bet anything on it.

Gahhh, even with Anoop’s facial hair I still love him. (Anoop, please shave!)

Ryan “…and they don’t always show their true colors”
Anoop “Hahaha, that was funny.” *silent ba dum cha*

“We have a very good rapport” I’m always impressed by his vocabulary. xD

I think Danny’s comment was perfectly fine. I just found the “you jerk” thing to be hilarious.

I agree that Danny’s answer was honest and I dont feel he dissed Adam or Kris at all. What Danny said is basically what a lot of us have been saying. But it was a sorta awkward pause until finally Kris had to break that silence with You Jerk..LOL.

I appreciate Danny for his honesty and I appreciate Adam and Kris for taking it (and Kris saying “You jerk”, that was great), although it may have felt a bit awkward for Adam. I think it has to do with his more competitive personality. I’m still uncomfortable with the “Godly” stuff that he and Sarver said, but I think he’s really not a terrible guy.

But it kinda felt weird, I want them to put the spotlight on Kris.
Was I seriously the only one who noticed he wiped his eye after Lil’s children story? Could be due to him being tired, but I know he wants to be a father at some point so it might’ve made him ponder that a bit.

Anoop came off as a likable geek type (mostly because if his use of the word rapport ), but he’s cool.

Megan needs to dye her hair brown and make less creepy faces. I don’t mean to be that superficial, but I used to have a crush on her, but I do like her unique style. I haven’t really seen enough of her, but I do think she needs dancing tips . But at least she seems to know herself and not care. I admire that. But I have to say, she’s the one I know the least of the top 10, and I think she had a very unique and interesting laid back voice, I hope we see a bit more of her.

Michael seems like a truly sensitive guy.

Well, I went to Danny’s blog and he said he thought that if he got into the finale that Kris’ votes would go to him. Nope. Fail. LOL.

Oh, and Allison is the only one who always looked over her shoulder at the poor contestants in the bleachers. I honestly wondered if they were taped somehow.

Danny is such a jerk. Sorry but I can never like that guy.

Kris has a very nice personality and it shows everytime I see him on interview. And Adam handles himself very well in interviews too. Both Adam and Kris have class and Danny obviously doesn’t.

I love Kris for his “jerk,” comment. If Danny were just being honest, how about talking about how his not winning and in fact being booted out third, might have had something to do with backlash to the judging? As it was, it seemed more ‘Adam got pimped, he got backlash.’ Yeah, because all the comments for you were nothing, but what you deserved, right Danny?

And how Danny talked about Kris’s win with Kris and Adam there, wasn’t well done. Gokey set himself up by choosing a winner and blogging about it. No one made him do that. Other contestants were smart enough to remain neutral or at least, not say something on their blog. So yeah, he put both Kris and Adam on the spot…with them right there. He needs to learn a few lesson in diplomacy and class from Kris and Adam. Or at the very least, and for his own sake, brush up on his interview skills.

Hey Guys! Clay Apologizes to Adam on his page!

http://www.clayonline.com/clay/member/clayaiken

Danny tried to avoid the question by pretending he doesn’t know if he had written anything in the blog. But he was caught offguard when Ryan said where to find the blog….that’s why the stammering went on again. People stammer when you have something to hide. It’s in the blog anyway so why deny it. I think Adam is mature and intelligent enough to handle what Danny said that’s why he said he’s comfortable with it. I don’t even think his mind is on the show. He looks tired.

Anyway, Danny needs some PR skills if he wants to be successful. He needs to express himself coherently and have some personality that will attract people. This is the reason why Kris and Adam made it to the top 2.

Anoop came off as a likable geek type (mostly because if his use of the word rapport )

^^Exactly one of the many reasons he is my favorite. I think I’ve watched his Idolatry interview….well, it’s a little embarrassing to admit how much I’ve watched it.

I love watching interviews of all the contestants together. They seem to have great chemistry and all fill certain roles within the group. Access Hollywood posted 5 group interview videos today as well.

And Danny…I do believe his heart is in the right place…he just really needs some coaching about interview conduct. There is a way to be real/authentic and tactful at the same time.

In Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s defense, he *was* put on the spot. What was he going to do – lie live with potential (phone) callers?

Does he need to learn a little diplomacy, yes and, in time, he will.

No harm was done.

Caro, you know I love you Boo, but I got to disagree with you bigtime. Howcome whenever Danny is “put on the spot” and stupid shit comes out of his mouth, it’s ok and he will learn diplomacy??? Everyother contestant up there is younger than him and has just as limited exposure to the press as Danny, yet they all act/say the appropriate things. He is a 30yr old man that should know by now how to be diplomatic and tactful. Hell Allison is 17 and has more tact and diplomacy in her little finger than Danny has in his entire body.

I want Danny to just disappear so I never have to hear him, see him or read about him ever again.

Oh yeah, I did notice something, Danny should have noticed that the judges overappreciated him.

Ryan Seacrest kept bringing up the Idols answering questions. Huh, who do we e-mail? That sounds cool.

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Kris should have called him a jerk.

Well, in Kris’s defense I think he was just playing with Danny. I don’t think he was tryingn to be mean.

As far as Danny is concerned, he didn’t say anything wrong. He had just done an interview (the one Ryan referred to) and called the win for Kris. And in this interview, just as you stated, he said his reasons were the ott pimping hurt Adam and that he felt that probably more of his fans might vote for Kris because of their styles.

He also made it VERY clear that he was not endorsing one over the other.

I do think that Danny says exactly what he’s thinking in the moment, though. Some people will love that, and others won’t.

I also noticed something, the body language and demeanor of Allison and Megan towards Danny was cold and seemed like they didn’t even want to look at him, unlike they were towards the rest of the group. Am I just imagining that?

For me Danny was fine. Kris’ “jerk” comment was also fine… I feel like they were just being themselves on TV interview. I like it. I like the group.

Gahhh, even with Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s facial hair I still love him. (Anoop, please shave!)

In case you haven’t seen it, Anoop has a message for you on his twitter, @AnoopDoggDesai

I love Anoop & he looks great to me no matter what he does with his hair! It’s fun seeing him experiment with it!

What’s with Ryan still grilling Anoop over one comment (which he already apologized for), when pretty much everyone else got a pass for their remarks back to the judges & even Simon said it was OK? Get some new material Seacrest! I’d like to hear something new!

I hope Ryan will ask for some details about the tour when the LKL interview continues on Monday night. I’d like to know what the format will be and what they will sing, especially Anoop, so I’m hoping they will be able to at least give some clues.

Well, I went to Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s blog and he said he thought that if he got into the finale that Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ votes would go to him. Nope. Fail. LOL.

Well, Kris’s Internet fan’s votes most definately would not go to Danny. That is obvious, but I do think that the average veiwer who was a Kris fan would be more inclined to vote Danny over Adam.

Seriously, I had absolutely no idea Danny was hated until I decided to check out MJs in mid to late April. I was shocked at the hate. But noone that I know in “real life” hates Danny. Quite the opposite in my parts, actually.

I’m a teacher, teaching 6th through 12th grade. My students were all about either Danny or Adam.

Hey Guys! Clay Apologizes to Adam on his page!

http://www.clayonline.com/clay/member/clayaiken

Wow…his headline “Such Influence ha ha”. He even thought that his opinion matters. Clay made it to the headlines because it was very unprofessional of him to downcast another Idol being a runner-up Idol himself and not because his opinion matters. Actually, it was Adam who influenced him that’s why he issued an apology because he knew that this will cause a negative impact on his already dwindling career. To sum it up, he felt threatened by Adam because Adam has been receiving celebrity compliments which he never received during his time. He knows that Adam will become a bigger star than him that’s why he apologized.

So sad, I used to be a Clay fan because he and Adam have similar singing skills and I was crushed when he lost (same as to what happened to Adam). But now, he lost one fan.

First of all, interesting that Ryan made a point of sayign he did not know the vote margin. Specifically got Kris and Paula to agree. And then Paula led them in the “it doesn’t matter’ chorus. Must be Idol damage control trying to kill the Billy Bush “not close” story.

I thought the highlight of the Ryan interview was Alison’s impression of Cindy Lauper. LOL. (But I forget she has no personality.)

And the low point, was Danny. He could have said that he thought Kris would win without being a jerk. Also, how can Mr. “Vocal Masterclass”, “I give you a A+++ for effort”, criticize anyone for getting too much praise from the judges. Perhaps this was transference.

Regarding Clay:

Clay wrote a thoughtless Adam slam piece. Now it looks like he regrets it. But the “apology” reads more like self defense. If the only Adam performance he ever saw is RoF, why doesn’t he take 5 minutes and watch something else before he writes anything else.

If he wrote that I listened to some more of his work and I was too hasty … at least he might have been able to do some PR damage control.

Great article from Malaysia about Adam. (Adam has a lot of passionate fans in Asia.)

http://news.google.com/news/more?um=1&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=dTSCrJvkt8MPvaMvW8Nydk4-6ySsM

allison is going to be a big deal. i can’t wait. she’s going to be huge.

I actually don’t think what Danny said was that offensive. I was thinking, if Allison had been in 3rd place, I assume her votes would’ve gone for Adam, and probably did. I call – no harm – no foul.

And the low point, was Danny. He could have said that he thought Kris would win without being a jerk. Also, how can Mr. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Vocal Masterclassà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I give you a A for effortà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , criticize anyone for getting too much praise from the judges. Perhaps this was transference.

Well, I don’t know if Danny realizes he was overpraised, but I don’t personally think he was talking about that kind of overpraising for Adam…meaning the critiques of his performances.

He probably meant that pimping that Adam got near the end of the show…Simon telling the veiwers to vote Adam and the judges going on every talkshow, and basically discounting Kris. I think Danny’s right. I think this did hurt Adam.

In case you havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seen it, Anoop has a message for you on his twitter, @AnoopDoggDesai

Haha, I already saw it. It’s cool.

It is hilarious to me that Danny spoke about pimping, when he was pimped more than anyone this season.

Adam was praised for good performances, whereas Danny was praised even when he was terrible. Even that scream wasn’t criticized (except for Simon).

What hypocricy or blindness on his part if he doesn’t know he was pimped. He has consistently shown himself to be lacking in self-awareness or common courtesy.

Adam has said several times that he’s glad that it was him and Kris in the final. I bet he is glad it wasn’t Danny with him. Me too! I was so happy when Danny went home. The finale was great with Adam and Kris (if it couldn’t be Allison).

In Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s defense, he *was* put on the spot. What was he going to do – lie live with potential (phone) callers?

He should have said what anyone else with a whit of tact would have said: that he thought it could have been either one of them. And, he should never have posted it on his blog in the first place.

Does he need to learn a little diplomacy, yes and, in time, he will.

He’s 30 years old, if he hasn’t learned it by now, he never will.

Time and time again this so-called “Christian” has put his foot into his big mouth. And if he isn’t being tactless and insulting to someone else, he’s tooting his own horn. Every time he’s interviewed and asked questions about someone else, he somehow manages to turn the answer into something about himself. He’s the most egotisical, self-centered AI contestant I’ve ever seen. Kris was right to call him a jerk, because that’s exactly what he is.

Yeah I found the body language with Danny interesting. My first thought when they came out was ‘woo Danny is sitting at the opposite end of the desk from Adam, Kris and Matt’ It’s going to be an interesting dynamic on the tour.

Oh my Scott is so funny! His DWTS comment and his affair with the chocolate cake was hilarious. I bet he gets a lot of chocolate on tour this summer.

As for Clay…..well, his apology may seem magnanimous to some but I have only two words for it ‘Damage Control’. I don’t think he really wanted to do this as was shown by his still being critical of the fans for being upset. His PR guru probably called him up and told him to do some suck up work. He’s taking away from Adam and Kris’s time in the spotlight. Clay…..just be quiet. Go take Parker for a walk or something fatherly.

Well, Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Internet fanà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s votes most definately would not go to Danny. That is obvious, but I do think that the average veiwer who was a Kris fan would be more inclined to vote Danny over Adam.

That’s arguable and can’t be proved. On my part or yours. I’ll just say that I always get the impression that it’s all about him, and not much else. I’m sure he likes his fellow castmates just fine, but it’s still about Danny. Do I think he has an evil heart? Probably not. He’s just so unlikeable to me.

I agree with body language comments above, too. I noticed, but wasn’t gonna say anything.

First off..let Me! open my pie hole. I like Danny’s voice but damn why does he rub me the wrong way every time I hear him? I go to church I love Jesus but I could never vote for this dude!

Now Kris is a sweetheart in every way… so ..likable and HE did get the Danny vote! LET me tell you why!

The Rock Gods people speak of ? Danny no Kris no…Allison ? Could be.. Adam ? YES Why?

People who watch this show & vote don’t listen to Led Zeppelin ,David Bowie, kiss ,Queen and on and on!

Only kitty Rock pop people vote…That just the way it is…simple

Great article from Malaysia about Adam. (Adam has a lot of passionate fans in Asia.)

http://news.google.com/news/more?um=1&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=dTSCrJvkt8MPvaMvW8Nydk4-6ySsM

I know, I have a lot of friends from Asia and they just loved and were passionate about Adam and Allison. They were very disappointed with the results to the extent that some of them couldn’t work after learning the news. Simon knew what he was talking about when he was saying that he found the worlwide star in Adam.

In all honesty, I, too, hated Ring of Fire. I also think Randy Travis didn’t like it either. Let’s not forget, Johnny Cash is a country icon. Daughtry took some liberties with a JC song during country week, but, nothing as painful as what Adam did.

I guess Clay has a lot of time on his hands to go into such a long “apology.” I think he was responding to all the criticism he received about his remark.

Yes, Danny was overly pimped on the show. Did it hurt him? Possibly. I remember Simon telling him one of his songs was a vocal masterpiece,and I was going, HUH? Did we hear the same song? Whatever! It did seem that Adam was overly pimped as I think they wanted those 2 in the finale, or thought they should’ve been. Kris was dismissed and the judge’s remarks on the final 2 showed it. He got the Bo Bice treatment. The runnerup comments. And, Simon was a total jerk for not giving Kris a standing ovation like he’s done every other winner, except Taylor Hicks when he won.

I hope he keeps his ugly mouth shut about Kris’s career. He really hurt Taylor and there was no excuse for his childish pettiness just because his favorite didn’t win.

And the low point, was Danny. He could have said that he thought Kris would win without being a jerk. Also, how can Mr. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Vocal Masterclassà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I give you a A for effortà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , criticize anyone for getting too much praise from the judges. Perhaps this was transference.

I’d bet he knows he was overpraised. He is likely aware of the effects of it because of his own experience.

It seemed like Danny, Lil (until final 7 v1.0), and Adam had a cushion from the judges where they couldn’t be too harshly criticized. It just so happened that Adam deserved a lot (but IMO not all) of the praise he got.

chicksineggz – Did you see Anoop’s tweet about his facial hair? It’s sooo funny!

Clay pulled a publicity stunt. That’s it. He needed it.

As for ROF, Johnny Cash would have loved it. I said this at the time and I will repeat it now, he was punk country. He was ALL about pushing the envelope. Randy Travis, not so much. That’s his problem.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure he likes his fellow castmates just fine, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still about Danny.

I think that’s probably true about most of them, really.

If Danny were just being honest, how about talking about how his not winning and in fact being booted out third, might have had something to do with backlash to the judging? As it was, it seemed more à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã‹Adam got pimped, he got backlash.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ Yeah, because all the comments for you were nothing, but what you deserved, right Danny?

I read that there was an interview that Danny gave earlier this season where he was asked about how it was to be an early favorite. He responded by saying that it can be more a negative thing, being an early favorite in the competition. I think that Danny is aware of how being overpimped and overpraised can hurt a contestant, not only Adam but himself as well.

He didn’t bring up himself being praised a lot, because well no one asked him about that. Ryan asked him about Adam. I think that if he was asked how he felt about about being praised a lot and pimped a lot this season, he would answer it. In fact I’m sure that Slezak will pose a question like that to him in the his Idoltary interview.

chicksineggz – Did you see Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s tweet about his facial hair? Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s sooo funny!

Yes I did. (: I love everything he says.

I was looking for a place to comment on LKL about tonights interview, but didn’t find it, instead I found the LKL Blog Ryan referred to which was about Danny. Danny mentioned he’s planning to market his eyeglasses line. Now I’m thinking he should expand into footware, since he keeps putting his foot in his mouth, LOL! :rasberry_ee:

As far as Danny is concerned, he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t say anything wrong. He had just done an interview (the one Ryan referred to) and called the win for Kris. And in this interview, just as you stated, he said his reasons were the ott pimping hurt Adam and that he felt that probably more of his fans might vote for Kris because of their styles.

He also made it VERY clear that he was not endorsing one over the other.

I do think that Danny says exactly what heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s thinking in the moment, though. Some people will love that, and others wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t.

ITA. In Danny’s interview he predicted the winner, explained his reasons for that, but didn’t endorse anyone, or discredit/put down anyone. He said that he thought that both guys were talented and deserved to win, but that he thought that Kris would pick up his fans, and win because of that. IMO, that is no worse than what a lot of other people on the Internet have said.

And as far as him learning to be more diplomatic and more tactful, that can definitely help him, but I did like his honesty. And I didn’t think that Adam’s answer was very diplomatic. I didn’t think that it was very forthcoming. I don’t really believe that Adam thinks that being praised/pimped as much as he was helped him. I remember some of the facial expressions that Adam made this season when the judges were giving him praising him a lot/overpimping a lot.

It was like even he couldn’t believe how much that they were pimping him and I got the feeling that he wasn’t comfortable with that at times. I think that a more diplomatic answer from Adam would have been him saying something like yes, I do think that all of the praise could have played a part in me not winning American Idol. He could have said that there are a lot of different factors that play in to how people vote and that could have been one of them .

That would have been more diplomatic. Not saying that I think it helped me. I didn’t see that as diplomatic, I see that as not being very forthcoming. Because I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that Adam really thinks that. Especially since a lot of people have been speculating that Adam being overpraised and overpimped could have been one of the biggest reasons he didn’t win.

He didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bring up himself being praised a lot, because well no one asked him about that. Ryan asked him about Adam. I think that if he was asked how he felt about about being praised a lot and pimped a lot this season, he would answer it. In fact Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure that Slezak will pose a question like that to him in the his Idoltary interview

Yeah, I remember that interview. He said something to the effect that he always felt that they were expecting so much from him. It made him nervous and that he would get with his mentors and be like “what am I going to do? what am I going to do?”

He also talked about being so afraid to go onstage. Most people don’t admit to that. I really do think Danny speaks what’s on his mind.

I think the Idoltary interview is going to be terrible for Danny. He really does have a hard time speaking well, and has a tendency to mispeak. I can not see anything good coming out of that for him. But I can see why he has to do it. But I just don’t think he has the speaking skills/confidence to pull it off. Oh well, the Internet peeps really couldn’t hate him any more than they already do.

And, Simon was a total jerk for not giving Kris a standing ovation like heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s done every other winner, except Taylor Hicks when he won.

I just wanted to point out that Simon actually did give Kris a standing ovation but sat back down before the camera showed the close up of all four judges (with them standing and him sitting down)

Simon was a total jerk for not giving Kris a standing ovation like heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s done every other winner, except Taylor Hicks when he won.

Simon did stand up for Kris. He just sat down again sooner than the other judges.

edit: please don’t pimp polls here

Just for comparison, several contestants Season 5 said they wanted Taylor to win (not just predicted he would win). Elliott and Paris sat in the audience on final performance night holding up Taylor signs. Noone seemed to care then. Maybe it’s because 99.9% of this blog hated Kat McPhee that year.

Again, Danny did make it clear in the blog that he was not endorsing anyone. He said they both deserved it.

*temporary goes out from lurking”

“Great article from Malaysia about Adam. (Adam has a lot of passionate fans in Asia.)”

I’m getting kinda tired of this – about Adam being teh! international star. Not that I’m against it, but at this point in time, it’s anybody’s game.

FWIW, I’m in Malaysia and I’m a Kris fan. Among my friends who follow AI – 2 likes Adam, 2 Danny fans, 1 Kris fan, and another who’s just against Adam. Point is, there is no clear indication of Adam is tops over others as the “international superstar”. A probable reason could be that there was a lot of early buzz bout Adam Lambert, which was actually why I checked out AI at top 10. I didn’t like him, and was latched on to Kris.

I think it’s generally easy to categorise people into groups when writing an article. It’s very easy to cherry-pick opinions – Adam has more fans: his website has more online fans! Kris fans are a superorganisation of voters – check out KAnation!

As a general feel of things here, the Davids were a much bigger buzz last year, especially leading up to the finale. This year it was pretty much subdued, and from what I gather over here in Malaysia, there wasn’t that huge a of a storm/b**chfest over the AI winner.

I think the Idoltary interview is going to be terrible for Danny.

My prediction: Danny and Kristen With Glasses are gonna get it on.

(my apologies to anyone who involuntarily mentally pictured that)

Simon was a total jerk for not giving Kris a standing ovation like heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s done every other winner, except Taylor Hicks when he won.

I think Simon stood for Taylor, too. At least I think I remember him standing after Taylor sang his horrendoes coronation song and the confetti was raining down.

Y’all can say how honest Gokey is forever, but I just don’t care. He’s a huge turn off to me, and I guess I’m just being honest, too.

Body language: Allison, keep leaning towards Kris… yes. He won’t feel you up. Just saying…

Yeah, I remember that interview. He said something to the effect that he always felt that they were expecting so much from him. It made him nervous and that he would get with his mentors and be like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“what am I going to do? what am I going to do?à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

He also talked about being so afraid to go onstage. Most people donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t admit to that. I really do think Danny speaks whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s on his mind.

I think the Idoltary interview is going to be terrible for Danny. He really does have a hard time speaking well, and has a tendency to mispeak. I can not see anything good coming out of that for him. But I can see why he has to do it. But I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think he has the speaking skills/confidence to pull it off. Oh well, the Internet peeps really couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t hate him any more than they already do.

I do think that he definitely say what’s on his mind. And I know that not everyone likes that. Unfortunately (IMO), I think that the Internet people could hate them more then they already do. Everyday I see people saying they have new reasons to hate him. I’m sure they will find more reasons to hate him after he gives the Idoltary interview.

But I saw another interview, where he was talking about reading a lot of negative comments on the Internet. I think that he has developed a thick skin, so I think that it he reads any more negative stuff, he’ll just try not to let him bother him too much. That’s all he can really do, besides not read the Internet stuff period.

I don’t know how the Idoltary interiew is going to end up being. It definitely could be really bad for him. It could end up being really awkward. I’m not sure how he’s going to handle Slezak, especially after all the bad stuff that Idoltary has said about him this year.

He’s not as articulate and well-spoken as Anoop is, and I don’t know if he would be able to successfully turn things around on them like Matt, did, so I don’t know what’s going to happen with that interview. Maybe Slezak will give him a really short interview like he did with another contestant that he didn’t care for last year, Archie and look kind of bored when Danny talks, like I thought Slezak looked with Archie.

Oh, I cannot wait for the idolatry interviews.

Kristin With Glasses will call in sick, I’m guessing. They are pretty nice in person.

Letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not forget, Johnny Cash is a country icon. Daughtry took some liberties with a JC song during country week, but, nothing as painful as what Adam did.

Oh, good lord. Johnny Cash sang the song in a Preparation H hemmoroid TV commercial. I don’t think there’s anything sacrosanct about Ring of Fire!

Johnny Cash was as a campy as they come. Randy Travis knows darned well that Cash’s biggest hit was A Boy Named Sue. Travis was just having some fun with Adam.

In Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s defense, he *was* put on the spot. What was he going to do – lie live with potential (phone) callers?

He should have said what anyone else with a whit of tact would have said: that he thought it could have been either one of them. And, he should never have posted it on his blog in the first place.

Does he need to learn a little diplomacy, yes and, in time, he will.

Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s 30 years old, if he hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t learned it by now, he never will.

Time and time again this so-called à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Christianà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  has put his foot into his big mouth. And if he isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t being tactless and insulting to someone else, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s tooting his own horn. Every time heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s interviewed and asked questions about someone else, he somehow manages to turn the answer into something about himself. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the most egotisical, self-centered AI contestant Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve ever seen. Kris was right to call him a jerk, because thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s exactly what he is.

Danny didn’t say anything that hasn’t been said on this and other boards time and time again and has been the subject of many a professional blogger and reporter. It’s out there and has been out there for quite awhile.

We’re not deaf, dumb and blind. Adam was pimped, over pimped, much to his detriment and he agreed with that tonight. Simon and Paula both participated in that ad nauseam. Danny was pimped as well but not to the extent Adam was.

Kris took it in the teeth more often than not and he wins. Was there backlash, did Gokey fans vote for Kris in droves because of that backlash? Appears so, particularly after Billy Bush’s remark. (and btw, I don’t believe for a minute that Ryan doesn’t know the vote count. He loves to stir the pot).

I can’t fault Danny for telling the truth and the reasoning behind it.

Could he use a few weeks at charm school?

edit: ugh, Carolina, you sooo know better I would hate to have to put you in moderation

I also don’t understand the use of his “Christianity” as a way to clobber him. It’s right up with there with people who love Obama calling those who don’t racist . I doubt they realize that they’re practicing reverse racism the majority of the time.

Do I think that Kris should have called him a “jerk.” No, that wasn’t necessary but Kris gets a pass. I think he’ll look back on that and regret it.

he somehow manages to turn the answer into something about himself.

That’s a quality that Kris could use some help with. I’ve noticed in the last 24 hours that he’s accepting his accomplishment and directing more of the interviews toward himself.

disclaimer: I voted for Kris. I love Adam. I don’t hate Danny.

oceana
May 23rd, 2009 at 1:36 am
It is hilarious to me that Danny spoke about pimping, when he was pimped more than anyone this season.

Adam was praised for good performances, whereas Danny was praised even when he was terrible. Even that scream wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t criticized (except for Simon).

What hypocricy or blindness on his part if he doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know he was pimped. He has consistently shown himself to be lacking in self-awareness or common courtesy.

Adam has said several times that heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s glad that it was him and Kris in the final. I bet he is glad it wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Danny with him. Me too! I was so happy when Danny went home. The finale was great with Adam and Kris (if it couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t be Allison).

I totally agree with your every word! That’s when people get mad, when someone is pimped for boring or bad performances, Danny! Adam had such great performances week after week, even his non-fans couldn’t deny his talent.

Yà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢all can say how honest Gokey is forever, but I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a huge turn off to me, and I guess Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just being honest, too.

Body language: Allison, keep leaning towards Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ yes. He wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t feel you up. Just sayingà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

It’s okay pj, if you don’t like him, you don’t like him.

Anywho, Allison “plays” with Danny. She was an equal part in the cake fight. She goofs off picking at Danny in the Sarver video. I doubt she would “pick” at him if she was afraid of him. Besides, her Mom’s been there the whole time. I’m sure if the mother felt Danny was being inappropriate, she would put a stop to it. Allison mentioned somewhere that she loved to goof off with Danny. I think it’s innocent fun.

After Ryan asked if there was a romance in the mansion, am I the only one who heard Kris jokingly mumble “Me & Adam?” and glances at Adam, right before Allison said Danny & the kitchen? So cute!

Adam didn’t hear him by the way because everyone was kinda talking at once.

I also donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t understand the use of his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Christianityà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  as a way to clobber him. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s right up with there with people who love Obama calling those who donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t racist . I doubt they realize that theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re practicing reverse racism the majority of the time.

Caro, I have no problem with Christianity. I just don’t like Danny’s way of presenting himself to the world. And no, I don’t think charm school can fix it. I think he’s an egotistical guy. Kris is also a Christian and he’s not getting the same reaction. Good reason for that, IMO.

So, I don’t see your point. If one Christian guy is loved for walking the walk and the other isn’t, well… I can’t see how it’s fair to say its an anti-Christian thing.

I wasn’t watching AI back then, so i dont know much about clay (or claymates’ power) except to see him on entertainment news here and there.

I just always feel sad when hearing celeberties using their power to have a negative influence in pubic.

I mean, think whatever you want, but when you have power, there is no need to say some of these thoughts out loud… :glurps_tb:

But I saw another interview, where he was talking about reading a lot of negative comments on the Internet.

This too could affect his ability to do well in interviews, especially if he’s not well spoken to begin with. I can’t imagine how it must feel to read all of that. And really, people have not just gone off on Danny, but his sisters, brother, and family.

Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not as articulate and well-spoken as Anoop is, and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know if he would be able to successfully turn things around on them like Matt, did, so I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to happen with that interview

Danny will not be able to do this. I don’t think he has it in him. Unfortunately, I already know, it will be a humiliating experience for him.

Btw, someone upthread said something about thinking that Matt and Danny don’t get along. I don’t think that’s true. I think that Danny, Matt, and Anoop are actually close. Matt even said that Danny was like a brother to him. Unfortunately, Danny does not have the same gift of self expression that those two have.

On a side note, I am not a fangirly person at all, but I swear to God, that Matt is just so darn cute…forgive me.

This too could affect his ability to do well in interviews, especially if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not wel spoken to begin with. I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t imagine how it must feel to read all of that. And really, people have not just gone off on Danny, but his sisters, brother, and family.

Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not as articulate and well-spoken as Anoop is, and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know if he would be able to successfully turn things around on them like Matt, did, so I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to happen with that interview

Danny will not be able to do this. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think he has it in him. Unfortunately, I already know, it will be a humiliating experience for him.

Btw, someone upthread said something about thinking that Matt and Danny donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get along. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s true. I think that Danny, Matt, and Anoop are actually close. Matt even said that Danny was like a brother to him. Unfortunately, Danny does not have the same gift of self expression that those two have.

On a side note, I am not a fangirly person at all, but I swear to God, that Matt is just so darn cuteà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦forgive me.

I can’t imagine how bad it would be to read all of that negative stuff about him and sometimes about his family.

I think that he might not have it in him to turn things around on Idoltary like Matt did either.

Also I do believe that he Matt and Anoop are very close. Anoop has spoken well of him quite a bit, and Matt has said that he is the closest to Danny. Plus Danny has mentioned both of them on his Twitter, and Anoop has promoted Danny and Matt’s Twitters on his Twitter page.

So I think that all three of those guys are pretty close. I get the feeling that all three of them like to hang out with each other.

I like that they all three of them seem close, because they are my three favorite guys from this season (with Anoop being my absolute favorite).

pj May 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 am

Clay pulled a publicity stunt. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s it. He needed it.

As for ROF, Johnny Cash would have loved it. I said this at the time and I will repeat it now, he was punk country. He was ALL about pushing the envelope. Randy Travis, not so much. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s his problem.

So true, I mean Johnny Cash did a cover of U2′s “One” and Depeche Mode’s “Personal Jesus.” Johnny Cash himself said he was like an outcast in Nashville. He was a non-conformist and Nashville exes did not like that at all.

naomit, I agree with your sentiment. Just know that little poll will not have any effect on Adam’s career. I can’t predict success, but I’m guessing he will be fine.

So true, I mean Johnny Cash did a cover of U2à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Oneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  and Depeche Modeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Personal Jesus.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Johnny Cash himself said he was like an outcast in Nashville. He was a non-conformist and Nashville exes did not like that at all.

Yes, and his version of “Hurt” was more heartbreaking than NIN.

Meanwhile, Rod Stewart was doing standards. Who’s the rock star? Johnny Cash. And no, he wouldn’t have rolled over in his grave at Adam’s version. My guess is that he would have loved it. But that’s a projection.

It’s hard to be compared to Anoop and Matt as far as interviews go. Matt has a real gift for humor and conversation, and Anoop is seriously smart and articulate. I don’t think even Kris or Adam, although charming, are as good as those two are in interviews.

Honestly, I think I’ve finally come to accept each and every one of these Idols. Danny doesn’t bug me as much. I know he’s always hogging for attention and I’m sure he doesn’t realize it. He’s just socially awkward and clueless. I’m not putting it against him. I don’t think he needs to learn from Kris, nor do I think Kris needs to somehow be a little more like Gokey. Kris is humble. He’s really really nice. That’s just who he is, and I’m sure he’ll always be that way. It’s not because he thinks he doesn’t deserve it and he’s certainly not “trying” to act like that.

Heart – I think he was just saying “I didnt” or “I dunno” and it sort of ran together with that southern accent he has and it sounded like “Adam”. but i’ll go ahead and wish that is what he said. :wub_tb:

1. You don’t predict the winner of a contest when the two left competing are both (supposedly) friends of yours and especially NOT IN FRONT OF the one you predicted would lose. That, is called being tactless. Tact means NOT telling the “truth” if it isn’t necc. and esp. if it may hurt someone. Honesty is NOT always the best policy and he should not be congratulated for his “honesty”.

2. Yes, Adam was pimped. Yes, Danny was pimped. The difference is, Adam didn’t need the pimping but deserved it and Danny needed the pimping and didn’t deserve it.

3. Kris won and Adam is perfectly content to be runner up. This is called class. Class is something Danny has not.

4. You can make every excuse in the book you want to for Danny, it won’t change my opinion of him. I don’t hate him, but I dislike him very much and have no interest in ever hearing him utter another word.
If someone doesn’t put a muzzle on him, and soon, he is going to lose what little support he has left.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hard to be compared to Anoop and Matt as far as interviews go. Matt has a real gift for humor and conversation, and Anoop is seriously smart and articulate. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think even Kris or Adam, although charming, are as good as those two are in interviews.

I agree. I think that Anoop is fantastic. I think that he’s very intelligent, articulate, funny, charming and handsome. I think that Matt is pretty funny, and gives a pretty good interview as well.

I love Danny as well. I think that he is interesting and even though he’s not as well spoken, or as articulate as Anoop is, I am interested in hearing what he has to say. He does tend to say what’s on his mind, and I do like that.

Even though it would benefit him if he learned to be more tactful. And I think that he means well and is coming from a good place.

I think that Adam gives decent interviews and that he is charming but not as charming as Anoop is or as funny as Matt is. I think that Kris seems like a nice guy, but I am not really interested in seeing a whole lot of interviews with him.

Honestly, while I respect that Kris and Adam are the winner and runner up and understand why they got a good amount of air time on Larry King Live, I would have much rather have seen more of Anoop, Matt, Danny and I also wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t minded seeing more of Allison and Michael as well.

So I am looking forward to Mondayà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s episode of Larry King Live to see more of my favorites featured.

If you speak truth to power, you can never be wrong.

jlc May 23rd, 2009 at 3:13 am

1. You donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t predict the winner of a contest when the two left competing are both (supposedly) friends of yours and especially NOT IN FRONT OF the one you predicted would lose. That, is called being tactless. Tact means NOT telling the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“truthà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  if it isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t necc. and esp. if it may hurt someone. Honesty is NOT always the best policy and he should not be congratulated for his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“honestyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

2. Yes, Adam was pimped. Yes, Danny was pimped. The difference is, Adam didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t need the pimping but deserved it and Danny needed the pimping and didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t deserve it.

3. Kris won and Adam is perfectly content to be runner up. This is called class. Class is something Danny has not.

4. You can make every excuse in the book you want to for Danny, it wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t change my opinion of him. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t hate him, but I dislike him very much and have no interest in ever hearing him utter another word.
If someone doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t put a muzzle on him, and soon, he is going to lose what little support he has left.

Amen to all of the above!

Well, he made the prediction when Adam wasn’t right in front of him, and then Ryan asked him about it. He told the truth.

I really don’t think this hurt Adam’s feelings. It wasn’t like he was saying that Kris was better than Adam. In fact, in the blog, he says they both deserved the win.

Hm … I guess I didn’t find the whole Danny calling Kris’ win/Kris calling Danny a jerk as offensive/funny as everyone else. I don’t think it’s any worse than Michael John’s saying the right David won last year. It doesn’t sound 100% tactful/PC, but they’re just being honest. Kris calling Danny a jerk was a little awkward, like he was uncomfortable with being put on the spot (especially with Adam sitting next to him) and wasn’t sure how else to respond.

Man … I totally forgot that there were other people in this season other than Kris, Adam, Allison, and I guess Gokey. I think ’cause past few weeks I’ve actually been enjoying the show, while the rest of the season has continuously been a dreary dreck of “OMG, I can’t believe how much this sucks.” :/ Just my personal opinion. And whenever I see anything of the tour photoshoots, the only thing that comes into my head is Alexis.

I dunno. I just remember how excited I was to watch all 10 finalists on LKL last year, and this year, I just want a Kradam show, or even better: Kradison. Or Kradison Anoop (’cause he gives fantastic interviews).

1. You donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t predict the winner of a contest when the two left competing are both (supposedly) friends of yours and especially NOT IN FRONT OF the one you predicted would lose. That, is called being tactless. Tact means NOT telling the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“truthà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  if it isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t necc. and esp. if it may hurt someone. Honesty is NOT always the best policy and he should not be congratulated for his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“honestyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ .

I agree with this. And lesson one here is for Danny to stop thinking his opinion is so important. If he practiced some humility, he wouldn’t be sticking his foot in his mouth every 30 seconds. Just because someone asks you a question doesn’t mean you have to answer or provide them the answer that they want. There is something to be said for the “aw shucks, I don’t know, I think they’re both great” answer, even if you don’t feel that way because in the end, what Danny thinks about who should win and why they won is no more valuable than what we think.

aek May 23rd, 2009 at 3:24 am

Well, he made the prediction when Adam wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t right in front of him, and then Ryan asked him about it. He told the truth.

I really donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think this hurt Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s feelings. It wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like he was saying that Kris was better than Adam. In fact, in the blog, he says they both deserved the win.

Then if Danny was being truthful, he should have said that he thought they both deserved to win AFTER he said he picked Kris. I don’t think Adam has had a chance to read a freaking blog by Danny nor did Kris which is why he immediately replied “You Jerk.”

2. Yes, Adam was pimped. Yes, Danny was pimped. The difference is, Adam didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t need the pimping but deserved it and Danny needed the pimping and didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t deserve it.

There are definitely some people that feel like Adam didn’t deserve all the pimping that he got. I am one of those people and I know that there are other people that feel that way. IMO, No matter how good some people think his voice his, he should not have gotten pimped as much as he did.

I think that the pimping that he recieved was ridiculous and way over the top. I don’t think that Adam should have performed towards the end of the show as much as he did, IMO he shouldn’t have gotten all of the over the top praise that he got. Including the “your performance is already better than anyone’s else’s praise, even though others haven’t performed yet.”

Including the “you might have saved Allison” praise even though IMO Allison had been consistantly giving decent performances on her own. Bringing up his name ad nausem, during other people’s performances.

No IMHO, Adam should not have gotten all of the over the top pimping that he had gotten.

And yes, I admit that Danny was overpimped as well, and shouldn’t have gotten that either. I admit that he was overpraised for performances that he shouldn’t have been overpraised for. And that he was pimped too much.

As far as them both needing/not needing the pimping, I think that both of them could have gotten pretty far, at least top 4 for both, without all the excessive pimping that they received.

Because I think that they are both talented singers and I don’t think that either one of them was ever the worst of the night, prior to top 4 week when Danny gave the worst performance with “Dream On”.

So I do think that without all the excessive pimping that they both received they both could have went pretty far in the competition.

http://www.accesshollywood.com/dish-of-salt/dish-of-salt-the-american-idols-visit-access-hollywood_videotab_1110048

The Top 3 – 10 Idols were cute! The second interview is the funniest. Totally picking on Gokey but he loves the attention. Sarver bogarts most of the 3rd interview.

“And I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s answer was very diplomatic. I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that it was very forthcoming. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really believe that Adam thinks that being praised/pimped as much as he was helped him. ”

- You took Adam’s answer out of context. He said that the judges praises helped him in the sense that he felt accepted since most of his performances are out of the box. This pushed him to become more creative in his performances.

And on Danny picking on Kris as a winner, Adam said he feels comfortable with it meaning he’s not taking it against Danny.

“Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hard to be compared to Anoop and Matt as far as interviews go. Matt has a real gift for humor and conversation, and Anoop is seriously smart and articulate. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think even Kris or Adam, although charming, are as good as those two are in interviews.”

Kris is a bit on the laconic side, so interviews don’t come naturally to him (although he has a nice dry sense of humor), and Matt and Anoop are both very funny. I actually find Adam’s interviews the most interesting because I think he is as articulate as Anoop, as well as very thoughtful.

As for Danny: I think that if he had responded to Ryan’s bringing up the blog by saying simply “I predicted Kris would win because while they were both great and both deserved it, I felt my voters would gravitate more towards Kris, and people prefer to root for the underdog” no one would have a problem with it.

So, there’s the second half of this on Monday–and then I heard that Adam is going to be on the show again later next week? Is this true, and if so, is he with Kris?

Also, does anyone happen to have a link to Adam’s longer interview on Extra with Mario Lopez (Allison’s in it too)?

Also: as someone else said in a previous thread, if Idol made a video of Kradam moments–or even better, Kradison moments–I would buy it in a heartbeat.

Jx223, word to everything you said in that last post. We’ll never know how the OTT pimping of Adam and Danny affected their place in the competition. My guess would be that in a general sense it helped them early and hurt them late.

Chicksineggz said:

Honestly, I think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve finally come to accept each and every one of these Idols.

Same here. I even appreciate Sarver and Joy now after that quirky, fun duet they had the other night.

I think the Idoltary interview is going to be terrible for Danny.

You know, I’m NOT a Danny fan, but at this point, I really think the crap thrown at him is over the top. Danny is clearly socially awkward, does not understand how he comes across and is under the spot light. He is just so clueless. And, it’s not his fault he was over pimped. I have no idea if he is a good person or not, and neither do most of us on this blog.

And while I’m beyond annoyed that he took Allison’s spot in the best top 3 ever on AI as far as I’m concerned, it just seems time to cut the guy some slack.

Two weeks ago, before Dannhy was voted off, I was on the beat up Danny band wagon, but what the heck does it achieve now. Just don’t buy his record.

I’m hoping the Idolatry people cut him some slack and have the same human reaction that MJ had after he was voted off. Also, I so think he should bring Kristen some glasses.

Not looking forward to that interview. But, I’m actually more excited for Michael Slezak’s Allison Iraheta red hair he promised if Adam lost. I bet he is getting dyed this weekend.

I can’t believe I just spoke up for Danny. hmy_tb: :rolleyes_tb:

Weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll never know how the OTT pimping of Adam and Danny affected their place in the competition. My guess would be that in a general sense it helped them early and hurt them late

I think so too. I think that without all of the excessive pimping, and if they still had performed the same way that they did this season, I think that Danny would have still made top 4 and that Adam could have won.

I think that Jasmine, Jorge, Michael, Megan, Scott, Lil still should and would have all went home before Danny, had he not been overpimped. And even though heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s one of my favorites, I think that Matt would have went home before Danny as well.

I thought that Anoop got messed over but IMO, that wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fault. I thought that Alexis kind of got a bad break, but I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that was Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fault either. If Danny hadnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been overpimped, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s still possible that those two would have gotten messed over or got eliminated, before Danny.

I think that Danny could have hit top 4 if he hadnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t gotten overpimped and then maybe got eliminated at four because of his à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Dream Onà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  performance.

I think that if Adam hadnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been overpimped he would have still made the finale and possibly won.

I am so sad Alexis is not there. Argh.

“FWIW, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m in Malaysia and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m a Kris fan. Among my friends who follow AI – 2 likes Adam”

ASIA does not speak only of Malaysia. ASIA is a continent.

The Top 3 – 10 Idols were cute! The second interview is the funniest. Totally picking on Gokey but he loves the attention. Sarver bogarts most of the 3rd interview.

Thanks for posting this. The Idols are cute together, I enjoyed seeing them all interact together. And seeing a little more of each of their personalities. Anoop seems kind of quiet and reserved around the group. I think that one of the reasons could be because like some of them and he mentioned he’s not used to being around that many people all the time.

ASIA does not speak only of Malaysia. ASIA is a continent.

THIS. Definitely Kris would have his own fan but if you see the amount of interest in Adam – its amazing. Not just southeast Asia but in China as well. People around the world waking up in ‘ungodly’ hour just to watch crappy streaming pictures rather than waiting for the local screening.

I am a Malaysian as well. Whenever I talked or chat with my family and friends recently – we talked about Adam. Even friends who do not watch Idol recognizes Adam from the commercials/media exposure. So yeah – Adam made an impact and hopefully will be able to follow through.

And yeah – my sister agreed to go with me to Adam Lambert concert in Asia/Southeast Asia!! This would be the first time ever we would go to a newbie concert!!

I am so sad Alexis is not there. Argh.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/americanidoltracker/2009/05/let-alexis-grace-tour-a-call-to-urgent-action.html :smile_wp:

I’m sorry. I forgot to write down your screen name. Please take a bow in this thread:

WHAT THIS POSTER SAID. Yes, Yes. YES:

Time and time again this so-called à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Christianà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  has put his foot into his big mouth. And if he isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t being tactless and insulting to someone else, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s tooting his own horn. Every time heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s interviewed and asked questions about someone else, he somehow manages to turn the answer into something about himself. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the most egotisical, self-centered AI contestant Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve ever seen. Kris was right to call him a jerk, because thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s exactly what he is.

Another quibble, this time with Scott. His comment that “someone from AI” told him how great this group of contestants were for talking to one another vs. the Silent Types from Season 7 seems so juvenile. It’s like an entertainer telling his audience “You’re the best audience ever.” Like the one from the night before didn’t hear the exact same thing. Come on, Scott. Don’t be so naive. I met the Season 7 crew after the summer tour. They were all so warm and loving and funny as a group. We weren’t there when they filmed AI so while we don’t know how much they spoke, we can’t presume it was done for arrogant, unfriendly purposes. Maybe that was how these contestants handled their pre-show dispositions. Performing on a weekly TV show is NOT akin to a talent show at summer camp. Maybe Scott wasn’t as professional as he should have been. I found his presence to be out of place. He did not belong in the top 13 and patting himself on the back for thinking the Season 8 crew was The Best is a self-serving, immature and unprofessional.

ASIA does not speak only of Malaysia. ASIA is a continent.

No arguments there. I was just giving an example based on the article that you pointed too. Same thing also applies to mk88′s response; but my point still stands.

It’s anyone’s game right now who, or indeed at all, any of the idols will break into the international market successfully. Right now is premature to say the least. I was just pointing out that yes, Adam generates a lot of buzz. But buzz does not necessarily equate to many people liking him. As been pointed out many times, there are many people who follow AI passively and have their own favourites. They do not go online to check their favourites or follow them actively. In fact, thanks to the buzz bout Adam, I tuned into this season of AI. But I don’t find him appealing.

Like I said earlier, it’s easy to cherry pick opinions on the web, just the like author did for the mentioned article. Same goes for the those youtube fans of Adam in China etc. All that shows is Adam has lots of active internet fans. But will that translate to international success? Well, Adam did have the most internet buzz for this season’s AI, and we know how that turned out when it comes to the AI crown. Just sayin’…

All I can say right now is that from my limited observation with the people around me, there’s roughly a similar amount of people who are fans of Adam, Kris, Gokey etc. Of course if I look at KAnation, OMG! Kris is teh! best with a huge fanbase and will sell billions of records!11! Realistically right now, I’d say that Kris seems so have a wide appeal, that’s all. I won’t go as far to say he’ll sell million records or the best thing evah! since Elvis. I wish all of them the best of luck in the music industry, but it’s just that I’m getting extremely tired of Adam = international superstar when he just barely dusted off AI.

http://www.clayonline.com/clay/member/clayaiken

Clay says he imagines Adam doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t give a damn about what he says? Got news for you bucko à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ no one else does either. What a jerk! I had no idea he was so nasty. You can say someoneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s music isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t your cup of tea without saying it makes your ears bleed. Lord but he has a high opinion of himself. The complete opposite of the man he dissed. Somehow I think Clay and Danny would get along fine. Ooops!! Sorry. Thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s that pesky gay thing. Guess Clay canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t count on Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s support either.

I also noticed something, the body language and demeanor of Allison and Megan towards Danny was cold and seemed like they didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even want to look at him, unlike they were towards the rest of the group. Am I just imagining that?

Nope Linsav à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ you didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t imagine it. If Allison had scooted over any more sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d have ended up in Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s lap. What do you expect? Seacrest established that Danny teased her relentlessly. And heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d just dissed Adam and Kris. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d want to get away too.

“Like I said earlier, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s easy to cherry pick opinions on the web, just the like author did for the mentioned article. Same goes for the those youtube fans of Adam in China etc. All that shows is Adam has lots of active internet fans. But will that translate to international success? Well, Adam did have the most internet buzz for this seasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s AI, and we know how that turned out when it comes to the AI crown. Just sayinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦”

Well you have to admit likewise that there is a flaw in the AI voting system. You can vote as many times you like. It turned out to be whoever texts or makes calls faster wins. It’s not a credible basis of who really should have won. If they changed the voting system to one person/call then that is believable.

Anyway, I do agree that everything is up in the air and Allison may end up being the brightest of them all.

You can tell when Kris said to Danny “you jerk…just kiddin’” was to break the ice. After it was revealed there was an uncomfortable silence and Kris said that and everyone laughed. He did that to break the ice of uncomfortableness so everyone could feel more comfortable. But I did notice that Adam got more quiet and was thinking. I don’t think Adam ever heard that before.

Cakenbake May 23rd, 2009 at 6:03 am

You can tell when Kris said to Danny à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“you jerkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦just kiddinà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  was to break the ice. After it was revealed there was an uncomfortable silence and Kris said that and everyone laughed. He did that to break the ice of uncomfortableness so everyone could feel more comfortable. But I did notice that Adam got more quiet and was thinking. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think Adam ever heard that before.

Adam was really tired and his usual filter was not up, he has been nothing but gracious to Danny and he’s gotten dissed more than once by Danny (remember Gokey and Sarver’s foot-in-mouth video display of “Godly” love for each other?) Danny could have added the part from his blog that they both deserved to win. I agree with Kris, he is a Jerk.

Danny: projecting much? Does he sincerely believe he made it as far as HE did without overpraising? Does he really think he’s all that? Did he conflate his job as worship leader? Does he think the flocks worship him? Did he turn himself into the object worshipped?

Queen rumors substantiated by Rolling Stone magazine- Queen is indeed interested in Adam.

To quote Brian May:
“(drummer Roger Taylor) and I are definitely hoping to have a meaningful conversation with him at some point. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not like we, as Queen, would rush into coalescing with another singer just like that. It isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t that easy. But Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d certainly like to work with Adam. That is one amazing instrument he has there.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/10082

Gokey makes me ill. He is so self centered and I think he feels cheated, like he should have won. I think it infuriates him that Adam beat him…especially due to his “WRONG” lifestyle….give me a break. I felt bad for Adam, he seemed very introspective during the interview. Watching him look on as the judges praised him in the first video was sad. Kris is a sweet heart but I think the elephant in the room is that everyone, including Kris knows that Adam did deserve to win. And the way everyone skirts around the religion/gay issue is getting old. Of course it had an effect on the voting…duh. Also I noticed nothing was said of the Anoop/Megan relationship…hmmm.

Yes, Adam was pimped. Yes, Danny was pimped. The difference is, Adam didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t need the pimping but deserved it and Danny needed the pimping and didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t deserve it.

Exactly This.

I cant stand Sarver. I really really dont like him. I dont like how he looks, I dont like how he acts, I dont like how he talks, I dont like his attitude. I dont like Michael Sarver.

I also noticed something, the body language and demeanor of Allison and Megan towards Danny was cold and seemed like they didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even want to look at him, unlike they were towards the rest of the group. Am I just imagining that?

Yes it is all imagined! Nobody knows anything about any of these people. You can see what you want when you are watching for it and even perceive things wrong.
This poor guy can do nothing right. He can’t move his eyeballs without people saying he is the devil.

Although I think Danny’s head is completely messed up because of the online criticism, he cannot seem to act natural.
If I was on there and knew I was hated, I don’t think I could know how to act. It stifles a person’s personality.
He is aware of the hatred towards him.
But I think he was just being honest when asked that question about who he thought would win. It was NOT an endorsement, and Adam himself said the very same thing. He thought Danny’s votes would go to Kris.
Danny also just said what has been said by everyone else, that pimping can end up hurting the contestant. He probably meant himself too.
I think all of the idols got along fine and people are reading things into their relationship that is just not there.
They all care and respect each other.
Its the fans that have the problems getting along most
definitely and find fault. Not the idols, they are all great!

Adam has dealt with rejection and ‘unfairness’ in this biz for ten years or more. He knows how to play the game and he has a thick skin. Exposure IS the issue, not winning. And who got more exposure? Adam Adam Adam.

I had fun watching the Hollywood rounds last night-Kris? You can catch him in the background from time to time, but they didn’t even show him in the “chair” episode.

Gokey is as self absorbed as they come.

And the competition continues.. lol. I’m betting Johnny Cash would think it was pretty funny that a bunch of bloggers are talking about him. I was a Ring of Fire Hater because I’ve always loved Johnny Cash and his original version. I certainly don’t know what he would have thought of Adam’s version cause, you know, he’s dead and all.

I’m on the band wagon of Danny non-hate. I just can’t get that worked up about it. I will say that I don’t really see any radio hits coming out of him unless he goes the Christian music route…. or maybe a little presence on AC.

I still love Matt and I love watching him in interviews. He’s fun! I sure hope something good happens for him. He was a bundle of nerves on AI but dude has talent. I’m still in disbelief that I didn’t get to hear him sing in the finale but I had to suffer through Megan and Michael… baaaaaaaaaaad.

Kris is a great winner. I love his attitude and am waiting to see what he does. I love kris but I will not drop any change for that horrid No Boundaries song… blech.

While Adam is not my cuppa, I like him a lot and hope the best for him. Gotta say, I’m really intrigued about the whole Queen thing. Me likey!

I’m a Kris/Adam fan. Not a fan of Gokey (his voice or his personality). That said, I can’t get too bent out of shape about him voicing his opinion, even if not in the most tactful way, about who he thought would win. I thought it was hilarious in Season 5 when Elliot and Paris had “flat Taylor” heads on a stick. I think it would be hypocritical of me to give Danny a hard time for basically the same thing – giving his opinion on who he thought would win.

“Oh, good lord. Johnny Cash sang the song in a Preparation H hemmoroid TV commercial. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s anything sacrosanct about Ring of Fire!”

This. OMG….so funny yet so true!!! thank you. For me ROF was my favorite of the entire season, just too much for the red states. Cash would have loved it

As far as Danny goes though, he has always rubbed me the wrong way, and not just cuz he’s Christian. Even though I feel Adam was robbed, I can’t not like Kris, he’s such a sweet guy and he’s Christian too, so that has nothing to do with my extreme dislike of Danny. He’s just so pompous and arrogant, and when he said that he loved Michael in the “right”, no “godly” way it made me want to scream.

I thought it was hilarious in Season 5 when Elliot and Paris had à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“flat Taylorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  heads on a stick.

hahahaha I forgot all about that! Jersey, I agree with you on Gokey.

“For me ROF was my favorite of the entire season, just too much for the red states.”

Oh geesh… here we go again. It has nothing to do with states! It has to do with musical tastes. Ugh at the generalizations. How does everyone know JC would’ve loved it? Just curious… lol.

just an observation… lol looks like kris has been raiding DA’s closet…the plaid shirt is like the same or very similar to his KCA one… lol

yeah i know thats kinda weird to notice…
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Danny granted he could of been more tactful but he does have a point regarding the praise etc etc

edit: knock off the finger wagging or I’ll ban you

Nothing Gokey said was so bad, although he truly does not understand graciousness. You know when you watch football on TV and the coaches always answer ‘I think they’re two great teams and it’s anybody’s game!” That, Danny, that.

But at some level, the idea that Kris won, and Adam lost, based on people who previously voted for Danny is sort of comforting to Danny, and also, doubtless, what he hears from people around him.

Saying that it’s about demographics distracts from the one issue Danny never mentions in relation to Kris: performance. Realistically, what’s he going to say: “I started to think Kris Allen could win around the time he kicked me ass from here to next April with “Heartless”?

People tend to process experience through their own filters, I don’t think his processing is going to allow thoughts like:

* I really don’t know a lot of songs. Who are Glen Hansard and Kanye West? How does Kris keep *doing* that to his songs?

* People find Kris endearing and friendable. I have a lot of folks who are for me but I go wrong with a lot of people too. Why is that?

* Kris Allen is 100x better looking then I am. Sad for me, but true.

As far as Adam, I’m not sure the thought process goes much beyond, “sure Adam sings great BUT he’s [fill in the blank].”

Wishing Danny well in his niche, but I have this feeling that three years from now, we’ll still be hearing about Idol, how the judges said this, and “his” voting bloc did that. Whereas I expect the final two to have done some interesting things musically.

I want to like Danny, but I just don’t and last night’s interview confirmed for me every negative thing I’ve read about him and seen for myself. He has no filter. He has no diplomacy. The irony of him talking about the praise towards Adam perhaps hurting him. Hello?!! Last I recall, Danny was pretty pimped himself and he didn’t seem to mind that carrying him to the top 3 spot. Danny just doesn’t have the class and poise of Adam…and plenty others on there who know how to be tactful and respectful. I don’t get any warmth from Danny and certainly zero towards Adam. I think Danny simply tolerates Adam. I so wish Ryan asked Danny about the influence of his friend the Pastor.

I loved how Adam was very subdued (albeit completely knackered) and conscientious of giving Kris his deserved spotlight. Both Kris and Adam are classy guys. I’m still very disappointed with the fact that Adam lost, but I’m also ashamed of myself for being one of those slaying Kris in the heat of the moment finale night. Taking a day to step back, I really can’t help but adore Kris. He’s all kinds of awesome and I truly hope he finds success and gets to enjoy his moment. The fact that Adam genuinely seems okay with the result and given his obviously strong friendship with Kris, I’ve more than learned my lesson about graciousness in defeat from him.

LOL. The posting software just ate my last post.

So, I shall try again, but briefer this time.

But, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m actually more excited for Michael Slezakà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Allison Iraheta red hair he promised if Adam lost. I bet he is getting dyed this weekend.

Annie said in another popwatch article (the Bikini girl one) that he’s already had it done (and that it’s amusing).

I think the interview with Slezak will be great because he was one of the early supporters of Kris and should ask some great questions (he always does).

I always like watching the Idols on Larry King. Ryan did a better job than Larry normally does. Transcript is up. Here is how it starts:

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, there’s probably people better than me.

SIMON COWELL, TV HOST: Your modesty is actually putting me off a little bit.

Ouch! The producers did a terrible job of letting us get to know Kris. They should have rectified it somewhat when they realized that he wasn’t just going to go away. Heck, they even finally got around to play Kelly’s audition on the main show (to much fanfare). I hope that TPTB take their job seriously and realize that Kris has potential and properly get behind him (not throw a snit). Even if you toss out his win for whatever reason, he did really well to get to the final 2 with so little support from the show.

Danny is a little socially oblivious, but I think, like Earth, he’s mostly harmless. He didn’t say anything about the win that I haven’t said this year and in previous years.

ETA (so jersey may not agree with this): It actually makes me wonder if TPTB really did want Adam to win all along. Usually, the cast supporting Idols for those they want to win (think about how many blue-eyed rock/soul/pop Christian dudes they cast this year and how many rock guys last year and big voiced female singers the year before) so that the votes will coalesce around TCO. Plus that coronation song seems written for Danny. I think Adam was TCRU to Danny’s TCO. I really think Adam will do better as the runner-up anyway. He has a lot more freedom and TPTB are behind him all the way.

As always, what Kirsten said.

I love most of the contestants this year. They really seem to get along in a genuine way, not just for the benefit of the cameras.

Danny is the oldest one there and still manages to be outclassed by the younger contestants. I know some of you say he’ll learn diplomacy, but when? He’s nearly 30, for chirssake. Adam manages to handle awkward questions well, as do Kris and Anoop and even Allison.

Michael Sarver bugs the hell out of me. I so wish he’d not made it to the Top 10. Ugh.

This:

Seacrest: Anoop, you were one of our more honest contestants. (etc…)

Anoop: I can’t change who I am. I have to act like me, I don’t know how else there is to act.

Is why I flove him.

Allison is adorable and I loved her talking about Cindy Lauper. Haha!

If you haven’t seen it, there is a 6 part interview with the Idols, minus Kris and Adam, here:

http://www.accesshollywood.com/dish-of-salt

It’s pretty entertaining.

P.S. Why are people hating on Anoop’s facial hair? He looks great with it!

Danny has his issues for sure. But I did appreciate his answer because it was honest. It’s also not an insult to either Kris or Adam to come up with an analysis of why people vote. He didn’t say one was more talented than the other for example. Back in S5, many contestants had favorites and weren’t shy about politicking for them. Since they shared the view of many here, nobody gave them much grief. At least Danny didn’t sit in the finale audience waving a Kris sign.

Adam seems very, very sweet. And very low key in real life so to speak.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“You jerk!à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Kris, I will love you forever, for that comment.
I want to listen to it on repeat while watching the Allison shove.

:cheese1_ee: The way that came out, I got the sense that Adam and Kris probably have had a few private chuckles at Gokey’s expense over the course of the show. Not in a mean way, just you know, those guys are so in sync, and Danny seems to step in verbal doody so easily. Oh that Gokey. Ryan might have set him up, but as others said, if Danny wouldn’t have written what he wrote in the blog, well….you know. I’m shocked that Danny and I are almost the same age because mentally, he seems about twelve sometimes. He just babbles, with like no filter and turns the convo back to himself. Even awesome little Allison, for all her 17 years, was wise enough to plead the fifth on the Kris vs. Adam questions before the finale. I’m reminded of that scene in Bull Durham wherein Crash gives Nuke the three short sports cliches to use when answering reporters questions because Nuke isn’t the sharpest crayon in the box. Danny needs a Crash Davis. Anoop, maybe, because he is just amazing with the PR stuff. I *heart* Anoop, so well spoken and charming.

Scotty Hardcore is still amusing. And you know, Dancing With The Stars? I’m sure he was kidding, but it’s not a terrible idea. I think he’d be popular. And the costumes-respect the pink pantz, bitches. (Yeah, I worked that in!)

We werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t there when they filmed AI so while we donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know how much they spoke, we canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t presume it was done for arrogant, unfriendly purposes. Maybe that was how these contestants handled their pre-show dispositions.

Yeah, that’s the second time Scotty has brought that up, and I’m not sure why he loves that story so much. Anyway, the behind the scenes with Coca Cola videos last season posed the “what do you do while you’re waiting to go on” question. Everyone said they prefer to chill and get in their head space or say a prayer, until they got to Cook and Johns, who said they hang out together and tell bad jokes or something. Jason might have been napping. So, there you go.

Danny is socially awkward. Period. Boy has absolutely no idea how he comes across. He’s been somewhat sheltered, and needs to grow up. A lot. I’m not making excuses for his small-mindedness but I’m actually hopeful that he, and his mind, will grow through this experience. Everytime I wince at something Danny says I will try to remember watching him defend Adam on a clip – the one where he said Adam is often misunderstood, and that Adam’s a genuinely nice guy, etc.

Matt G was gypped out of the spotlight on Wednesday. the man finished FIFTH, people. And he got, what, 10 seconds in the interview. Goodness.

For heaven’s sake, I hope these kids get some sleep now!

If you havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seen it, there is a 6 part interview with the Idols, minus Kris and Adam, here:

http://www.accesshollywood.com/dish-of-salt

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty entertaining.

I watched the accesshollywood interview. It’s great if you’re a Michael Sarver fan because he just talks and talks (and talks) almost the whole time. You would think that he won American Idol. I flicked him in the face several times. I hope I didn’t damage my monitor.

The best part of the interview was when Anoop said his nickname for Danny is “stupid.” Heh.

It actually makes me wonder if TPTB really did want Adam to win all along. Usually, the cast supporting Idols for those they want to win (think about how many blue-eyed rock/soul/pop Christian dudes they cast this year and how many rock guys last year and big voiced female singers the year before) so that the votes will coalesce around TCO. Plus that coronation song seems written for Danny. I think Adam was TCRU to Danny’s TCO.

Hm. Danny is like a crappier Taylor Hicks–If he were TCO, I can’t imagine how they were planning to market him outside of Adult Contemporary and Christian music. He’s a niche artist.

I think Matt Giraud was the stealth TCO early on, but he kept choking on stage. Matt records very well, is current and would be easy to market.

It’s funny–if he’d come out in the semi’s and knocked “Viva la Vida” out of the park–Matt had lots of momentum coming out of Hollywood– Kris wouldn’t have advanced to the finals I don’t think, and at that point, I’m not sure Kris would have been picked as a wild card either…

Danny has his issues for sure. But I did appreciate his answer because it was honest. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s also not an insult to either Kris or Adam to come up with an analysis of why people vote. He didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t say one was more talented than the other for example

I have to agree with jpfan here. Idols are going to annoy people no matter what they say. If they constantly demure and never answer a question, some people will think they are lame. If they answer a question they risk offending some fan group somewhere. Some Idols are great at threading the needle, but if that’s the default ability level expected of Idols, then it’s not laudable. Me, I think it’s laudable and I’ll cut the normal humans some slack.

IMO Danny showed the intelligence to realize that AI is much more than a singing or popularity contest. He showed more intelligence than the freakin’ PTB seem to have. I think that if he was asked, he would admit that pimping hurt him as well. From his tone, I suspect he thinks it’s one of the reasons that helped to get him booted.

IMO, if I want to get away from nothing but “Bull Durham” style interviews where nothing of substance is ever said, I have to allow people to state opinions. Some of which I may not agree with. I don’t hate my friends and co-workers for not agreeing with me (or giving me Bull Durham answers to every question), so I’m not going to hate Gokey for having the guts to answer a direct question with some thought. IMO, he simply analyzed the situation. That’s not to say he hasn’t been clueless in other situations.

Well, Danny, you are still a very LARGE DOUCHEBAG.

He has no tact, does he?

There’s being honest, and there is being an ass. He’s so socially awkward, as some have stated and this whole “limelight” thing isn’t the best place for him to be right now with diarrhea of the mouth going on.

You have so much to learn Gokey, so much to learn.

On pleasant note, I rather enjoyed this interview. Compared to the others I must say Kris and Adam have the nicest speaking voices and are pleasant to listen to.

Michael Sarver still makes me want to hurl.

Allison is refreshing…I’m not sure what it is, but this is the first TEENAGER on the show that I feel actually ACTS like a teenager, talks like a teenager, and just embodies teenager and I like that. With Jordin and even with Archie I always felt they were wise beyond their years and were more like a young adult than they were ever really a teen. It didn’t really bother me, but when I see Allison it makes me smile because she’s still very composed but she’s just very sassy, I enjoy that out of her.

I’m actually debating if I want to go read Danny’s commentary online at Larry King becuase I just want to see if he sounds douchey in writing too.

I watched the accesshollywood interview. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s great if youà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re a Michael Sarver fan because he just talks and talks (and talks) almost the whole time. You would think that he won American Idol. I flicked him in the face several times. I hope I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t damage my monitor.

Michael Sarver seems like a prick. It’s like he wanted to make SURE everyone remembered him even though he went out 10th. He seemed to be very, “Hey, remember me? Look at me!! Don’t forget how awesome I am! I am totally a part of this group even though I left early!! LOOK AT ME!!”

Yuck.

Kris is such a sweetheart.He knows how to get around interviews better than i though.I feel like he feels like he doesnt derserve this when he does.

Danny needs some social lessons seriously.I get afraid for everyone when there with you.You never know what he’ll say to ruin whatever interview.

Poor Adam.I felt bad about what Danny said.I dont think Danny really gets along with Adam for some reason.Adam let his head down.I love Kris’s “you jerk”.I would of added something else but Kris is very classy.

I guess I don’t understand why what Danny said should make Adam feel bad? He knows he lost already, right? And losing because of overpimping is alot easier to swollow than some of the other theories thrown about.

I wouldn’t read too much into their body language. Maybe they all hate each other but I’m guessing Danny is liked and gets teased alot. Or maybe they hate him. I honestly don’t know and the others are too smooth to show their true feelings. I must be one of the only people who doesn’t like Allison. She kind of bugs me for some reason.

Hm. Danny is like a crappier Taylor Hicksà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’If he were TCO, I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t imagine how they were planning to market him outside of Adult Contemporary and Christian music. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a niche artist.

I’m not saying I understand what TPTB were thinking. I agree that Danny struck me as a lesser Taylor Hicks. It’s just that after seeing that coronation song and the way they stacked the cast in favour of Danny, that’s the only logical conclusion I can draw (perhaps I’m missing something). They must realize that votes tend to split and then pool. Still, they played their cards badly and I think Danny would have lost to Adam. Did they really want Adam to debut with “No Boundaries”? Maybe they are clueless.

I think Matt Giraud was the stealth TCO early on, but he kept choking on stage. Matt records very well, is current and would be easy to market.

That is a possibility. Perhaps, like Cook, he was meant to start off as a known entity (but not as an early front-runner) that grew through the competition. Perhaps TPTB thought his nerves would settle as he got used to the stage and he would start to nail performances like he did on Ellen. Then, the Danny/Kris/Michael/Anoop vote might have coalesced around Matt. But, Matt never managed to control his nerves or stay in his box. And I don’t know what he would have done with that coronation song.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funnyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d come out in the semià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s and knocked à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Viva la Vidaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  out of the parkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’Matt had lots of momentum coming out of Hollywoodà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Kris wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have advanced to the finals I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think, and at that point, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sure Kris would have been picked as a wild card eitherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I agree. Kris was totally cast as cannon fodder. The Ricky Braddy for Round 2. Somebody nobody knows so nobody will vote for, but good enough so that it helps to make the episode tolerable. In order to advance who you want, you sprinkle in some middling singers that people know and some good singers that people don’t know (and, this year, add in one crazy for amusement and mix). You can’t just have crappy singers and the three you want because 9 crappy singers is too much for people to bear. If Megan and Matt had performed up to snuff, one of them would have gotten through and the other one would have been wild-carded (or Allison. I think that darkhorse statement piqued a lot of interest. I think they may have thought Megan would get through and then they would wildcard Allison)

Think about it this way, they probably had 9 people they wanted in the finale. Danny, Adam and Lil were the primary three. They got lots of pre-voting round exposure and the pimp spots. Then, they wanted Alexis, Michael and Anoop from round 1, Megan, Allison and Matt from round 2 and Scott from round three. Maybe they did want Jorge for the fodder. Jasmine was totally sent to the Final 13 as fodder (and diversity). I can’t believe they thought she’d last very long. So, Wildcard would have been Anoop/Michael, Allison/Megan/Matt and Jasmine (or equivalent).

But, Matt stumbled and Kris managed to snag a final 12 spot and an audience from day 1. That happens sometimes and it’s why Idol isn’t over until the confetti falls. Like they are saying over on the Grassy Knoll, Kris broke the Knoll.

I agree that Matt could have been TCO early on. I LOVED the guy during Hollywood – I still do – but he could not get his nerves in check. I hope he gets signed. I love his recorded voice… maybe more than any of the others.

Poor Danny… lol … dude still cant catch a break. I hope people dont throw watches at him on tour.

IMO, if I want to get away from nothing but à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Bull Durhamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  style interviews where nothing of substance is ever said, I have to allow people to state opinions.

I get you that it’s tedious to have *all* happy talk. I think folks were also reacting to for this snippet is the social context: what you say at a particular moment, with the people right in front of you.

But the thing is, *did* Danny say anything of substance? The idea that this year it all came down to demographics and voting blocks is pretty common, both in the media and among fans. Heck, the producers seemed to have based half their decisions on it. I don’t doubt that it’s what everyone around Danny was saying.

I just would have found it more intriguing if he said anything (here or elsewhere) about actual performances. I kind of think this season had had a ton of moments when what that person did in that two minutes–Matt’s VLV, Kris’ Falling Slowly, Danny’s Scream On, and Heartless–simply overturned the simplistic assumptions about blocs. Danny seems to find it unthinkable that people voted for Kris because he delivered kickass performances (and was hot) rather then some demographic similarities or because Adam is The Other.

Of course, he’s not alone in that, I’ve read a lot of folks who also can’t believe Kris siphoned off Adam votes because his tracks sound amazing on an ipod, and believe the votes must all have come out of cultural ire.

Not saying KA is the bestest winner ever. This year I confess I have no strong feelings either way about either guy’s commercial success. Just feel like the actual singing contest had a pretty big effect in getting that final two.

I see those 10 and I’m thinking (IMO, of course!):
4 are actually painful to listen to: Scott, Michael, Lil, Megan
3 are ok with the right song: Matt, Anoop, Danny
1 is good but not my kind of music and not much star power: Kris
1 has amazing potential: Allison
…and then there’s Adam of course, in a league of his own.

All in all, for me there was quite a big gap between Adam and Allison, and the rest. And half of the top 10 are pretty bad- I don’t think i could go to an Idol concert and have to sit through some of those performances…

PS: Alexis Grace totally would have deserved to be in the top 10 (or above)

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funnyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d come out in the semià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s and knocked à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Viva la Vidaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  out of the parkà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’Matt had lots of momentum coming out of Hollywoodà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ Kris wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have advanced to the finals I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think, and at that point, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not sure Kris would have been picked as a wild card eitherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Agreed. The general consensus in the knolly places, is that Kris was probably the reason for the Top 13 (as opposed to Top 12) – Matt and Megan were expected to go through with Adam. Possibly Allison. But never Kris. But when Adam was the only front-runner to perform up to standard, and Allison and Kris both came out of nowhere to do well, it messed up their plans. If he hadn’t gotten through that night, I don’t think we would have seen Kris on the show again. And just think, if he hadn’t won the sing-off he might never have even made it to the semi-finals at all.

I still think Adam was TCO though, just maybe not from the very start. I think they wanted Danny in the final knowing there was no way he could beat Adam (unless his votes were that much higher) – or at least that’s what I like to think because otherwise the Danny pimping makes no sense. Even if you think the guy has a good voice, he’s just not that marketable. Whereas Kris and Allison really are, so why they ignored them all season I have no idea. Thankfully we re-wrote the script and broke the show. *g*

His comment that à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“someone from AIà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  told him how great this group of contestants were for talking to one another vs. the Silent Types from Season 7 seems so juvenile.

One thing I always found about this group is that they’re extremely juvenile even if they’re not that young of a group. I know for many people some of their things are cute, I find them a bit childish.
And to me they’re always trying too much to show us how tight they are. It does seem a bit juvenile every time they try to tell us or show how close they are.
I understand Kris and Adam showing off their friendship to the cameras because their friendship was questioned and they probably feel the need to make a point, the the rest of the group? Seriously… this isn’t high school.

While I’m so not a Danny fan, I don’t hate him. I don’t hate anybody in reality. I actually didn’t find this to be one of his douchier statements. Or maybe I’m becoming numb to it. Thanks for the warning on the Dish of Salt interview. Don’t care to see Michael Sarver any more than I have to, so I’ll pass. He fucking took Alexis’ rightful place in the top 10.

Yà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢all can say how honest Gokey is forever, but I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a huge turn off to me, and I guess Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just being honest, too.

Have to agree with PJ here. I’m just plain over Gokey, and I don’t care if I never see or hear from him again.

Scotty Hardcore is still amusing. And you know, Dancing With The Stars? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure he was kidding, but ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not a terrible idea. I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be popular. And the costumes-respect the pink pantz, bitches. (Yeah, I worked that in!)

Good work sunchick. I’m glad you’re still respecting the pants.

Like they are saying over on the Grassy Knoll, Kris broke the Knoll.

I like to think that Kris secretly disabled the bus. It kept coming after him, but unlike my favortie fodder from last season, Kris just wouldn’t stay still.

I’m a little disappointed that I ever liked Sarver, and I’d like to have my votes back.

Each interview only reaffirms my opinion that both Kris and Adam are fabulous people. I think Adam is a smart and intuitive young man. I’m sure he’s well aware of how Danny or others may feel about him and his life. Who knows what subtle cues they’ve given him behind the scenes that they totally disapprove of him. Gokey and Sarver sure didn’t seem ashamed of their feelings about the “right” and “godly” kind of love on camera. So, I can only assume that they weren’t shy about it off camera. Adam deals with it the best he can, and I think that Kris being there to support him is fantastic.

So, Gokey can talk until he’s blue in the face, but I won’t ever care. He’ll always be a narcisistic egomaniac to me. He can take his little heart hands and go home to his regular job of filling Pastor Rolex’s cashbox. Good luck with that line of glasses Danny.

Does anyone know where I can get those solo pics of the Idols from the beginning of the video?

Of course, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not alone in that, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve read a lot of folks who also canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t believe Kris siphoned off Adam votes because his tracks sound amazing on an ipod, and believe the votes must all have come out of cultural ire.

I’m a Kris Allen fan and I love his performances, but I don’t think AI is a strict singing competition. Kris is my favourite of the season and I’m glad he won, but he would still be my favourite if he lost because there are so many other factors at play. I don’t think acknowledging the factors diminishes Kris. He managed to claw his way from obscurity to Final two based on his talent. On final two night, you can be the best of the night and still lose if the dominoes don’t fall right for you. I preferred Kris on final two night (but I’m a fan), but if an Adam-type contestant had been booted on Final 3 night, I think Adam would have won.

Kris got almost no help from TPTB. IMO, you don’t get to final 2 from where he started unless you are doing something right. Especially when you have to fight your way through a field of like contestants. TPTB should recognize that and realize they have somebody that they can really market here.

Who knows what subtle cues theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve given him behind the scenes that they totally disapprove of him.

I seriously doubt Gokey is capable of doing anything subtle…Sarver either.

I seriously doubt Gokey is capable of doing anything subtleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Sarver either.

LOL. True.

Just a thought in retrospect about this season.

If Adam had sung “Ring of Fire” on any week except “Country” and Randy Travis hadn’t commented and gotten up the ire of so many country fans would people be so “upset” with the song?

I think that sometimes context has an undue influence on how people react to any given situation. Because Adam’s version of a country song wasn’t what people expected to hear they judged the song and the singer not on the performance but on their own tastes and prejudices.

Just sayin…..

Eh, Danny came off to me like he has all season. Asshatish.

Clay is a whiney douche in my opinion. Obvious ploy for press.

I agree that Kris didn’t get any help from TPTB, OTOH he has all the caracteristics that seem to appeal to the AI audience, cute and nice guy with a big support coming from his homestate, this on its own gave him a strong fanbase, unlike some of the other talented contestants (Alexis or Allison come to mind).

If we go knollish all around here, I do believe that Allison was more than a cannon fodder, this type of voice couldn’t go under the radar during the whole hollywood week, it’s more a case of Elliot Yamin in my book, where TPTB hide some of their best contestants to get a surprise effect on the audience.

edit: don’t lecture people or I’ll put you in moderation

I’m not saying I understand what TPTB were thinking. I agree that Danny struck me as a lesser Taylor Hicks. It’s just that after seeing that coronation song and the way they stacked the cast in favour of Danny, that’s the only logical conclusion I can draw (perhaps I’m missing something).

Danny may have been TCO very early on, but I think that changed really, really fast–maybe once they got a gander at his song choices and performance style.

The first few weeks Matt was getting the Royal treatment–end of the show performance spots plus great judges comments, even for performances that weren’t all that. But then he couldn’t hold up his end of the bargain, while Adam was blowing peeps right off the stage. At that point, I think Adam became the new TCO, with Danny in second place.

Danny was always meant to be at least in the Final 3.

The producer’s treatment of Kris is kind of funny. They weren’t consistently trying to undermine him–he usually got the marks he deserved from the judges when he performed well, but rarely performed at the end of the show.

They didn’t bother to pimp OR undermine him, because they didn’t perceive him as a threat. They underestimated him big time…

This:

Seacrest: Anoop, you were one of our more honest contestants. (etcà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦)

Anoop: I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t change who I am. I have to act like me, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know how else there is to act.
Is why I flove him.

P.S. Why are people hating on Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s facial hair? He looks great with it!

Leave it to my posting twin to get inside my head again.

What a contrast: Anoop is just being himself and honest in interviews…and people respect him for it because he is tactful and respectful. Danny is himself and honest and is offensive.
I’m not hating on Danny…he was never my favorite…but I’ve never hated him. He has always reminded me of a grown-up version of that kid from Jerry Maguire…which makes it impossible for me to hate him…or take him seriously.

And Danica, of course I agree about the facial hair.

I’m looking forward to part 2 of the interview. Hopefully Seacrest will keep the questions direct like in part 1 so certain contestants (Gokey/Sarver) can’t hog the interview.

Back in the semis Simon did want Kris to make the finals and was very clear about it. Actually at the time I think Simon’s comment helped Kris a lot in getting into the finals. In the finals Simon also didn’t hesitate in saying that Kris would go really far. So I don’t think TPTB were unaware of Kris’s potential, I think they knew he’d go far and wanted him to go far. I don’t remember him ever being thrown under the bus, even if many of us expected it week after week. Also, can’t forget when Simon commented on Kris’s Falling Slowly in results night, when he didn’t for anyone else he hadn’t comment on. Kris had some degree of pimping, I think they wanted him to go as far as top 3, at least, and maybe when they saw Danny was kinda becoming a joke they were ok with Kris being top 2.
But to me they always wanted Adam to take it all, he was TCO from the get go, and if Danny was too before the finals, by middle of the show he wasn’t anymore. They either underestimated Kris’s fanbase, or they overestimated Adam’s fanbase. I mean, I do think Adam is way more popular, but Kris’s fanbase seems to be great at power voting, and they may have forgotten that little detail.

interesting what scott said at the end about how last season the contestants hardly spoke to one another

I am not sure what this was all about. I thought Season 7 was a pretty tight group, but the stagehands didn’t?

Talk about over-the-top praise. Danny was the recipient of this many times throughout the season. “A+ for effort” from Randy. What an insult to all contestants. I am so thankful he wasn’t in the Finale.

JLC says: Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the most egotisical, self-centered AI contestant, I’ve ever seen.
I am trying to think of someone who was worse than Danny?

Awww… Anoop is such a sweetheart. Yes, Scott and Matt do have a wonderful sense of humor.

I hope he keeps his ugly mouth shut about Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s career. He really hurt Taylor and there was no excuse for his childish pettiness just because his favorite didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t win.

Skylight, I had the same thoughts. With AI support of Taylor’s CD, it would have sold so many more copies. Simon sabotaged America’s choice for Idol.

I use to not like Anoop.I am slowly loving him.I was hoping that Danny might make me love him in interviews but i hate him more that he’s off the show.I want him off the planet.I think he should get a record deal.It would be funny to see him fail on the charts and records.

Ryan asked the questions so I don’t think anyone was hogging the interviews. I think he should have asked Matt another question rather than Scott even though I like Scott. I didn’t mind him going to Anoop twice though, lol. I thought he did great. :wub_tb: I also loved seeing Allison. She’s such a sweetie.

I didn’t mind what Danny said. It was true and had nothing to do whether Adam deserved praise from the judges or not. He was pimped in an OTT way all season and of course the rest noticed. I know people that liked Adam early on but were over him by the end partly because of it. Adam himself talked about Danny’s vote probably going to Kris so he’s obviously reasoned out some of the reasons he lost.

I thought it was a bit uncomfortable when they showed the last comments of the judges to both of them. It was so obvious that they were expecting Kris to be second.

I don’t know that Danny wasn’t still TCO from the A (plus) (plus) (plus) for effort scream that *still* gives me nightmares. While I feel that Kris should have gotten more kudos for some of his performances, I guess that’s where mileage varies. I guess I pretty much saw them begrudgingly praising him when to do otherwise would have been too obvious.

I wonder now if Danny really ever was a “second chosen one;” except for the semifinals, he NEVER had the pimp spot (as opposed to Adam having it three times and Kris having it once), he always seemed to be made very safe in results shows (except for top four, when Ryan clearly stated they were being sent through in random order), and when it came down to it, on top three night, he was given the first spot of three. Sure, the judges may have loved him, but I think that’s all there is to it; the producers recognized early on in the finals that this was definitely not their guy, and sent (most) all of their support Adam’s way.

Back in the semis Simon did want Kris to make the finals and was very clear about it. Actually at the time I think Simon’s comment helped Kris a lot in getting into the finals.

This is a really good point. The judges never really tried to undermine Kris, they even helped him at certain points of the competition. I’m just not convinced he was one of their favorites, nor did they see him as a threat.

I still think Matt still would have knocked him out of contention if he had performed better in the semis. It may have even tempered Simon’s critique of Kris…

“oops it looks like the comment I was responding to was edited.”

I think it’s ok for Adam’s fans to be disappointed because it’s always disappointing when the team or person you are cheering for loses. It also makes it difficult when there is a perception that other factors drove the outcome. It’s only been a couple of days since the finale, and I do think people are moving on. But I certainly don’t think there is anything wrong in exploring the reasons as to why Kris won and Adam didn’t.

I live in Los Angeles, and we have a pretty popular radio station here, 98.7 and the DJ there was asking people to text to him why they thought Adam lost. This particular DJ thought that Adam won, but that AI “fixed” the vote because AI knew that Kris needed the exposure of winning and Adam didin’t so it was a win win for everyone. Obviously the DJ thought Kris was talented and that Adam was already a superstar. The outcome was enough of a surprise for many people that it is the discussion right now. And why should people have to accept the outcome without question? It’s better in the long run for these things to be addressed. Even AI knows that. The fact that questions about religion/sexuality/voting controversy/pimping were brought up on Larry King means that AI sees that these are real issues for many viewers.

I think Adam and Kris are doing a good job of getting people to accept the outcome. I think Adam is right, his style is not everyone’s thing and that is why many people voted for Kris instead. But he is also right that the press reports about his sexuality did affect the vote. But I don’t know if it would have affected the outcome, just the margin. I think AI doesn’t want to release the margin because they want to move on from this. If it was a blow out, then they have to address the whole voting controversy and it raises all the social acceptance issues which AI wants to avoid. Better for them to keep it under wraps especiallly when Kris maybe would have won anyway.

As has already been mentioned, it was laughable to hear Danny, who was truly overpraised for some mediocre performances, telling LK, with a straight face, that he felt Adam was praised too much. Proof positive of a complete lack of self-awareness. Kris was definitely underpraised at times though, in particular I’m remembering this performance of “Renegade” where the other guy fucked it up yet still got a tongue bath. Who was that guy anyway???

Danny may have been TCO very early on, but I think that changed really, really fastà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’maybe once they got a gander at his song choices and performance style.

Well, that’s what I would have done if I was TPTB, but I’m not sure that they did. For heaven’s sake, Simon (Simon!) called YASB a vocal master class. A vocal master class? I don’t think he knows what that means anymore.

I’m not saying Danny had no talent, but YASB was not a vocal master class. Meanwhile, other judges were commenting on him being pitch perfect all season and on and on. I don’t think they ever gave up on Danny make the Final 2.

I wonder now if Danny really ever was a à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“second chosen one;à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  except for the semifinals, he NEVER had the pimp spot

I’ll admit that it is extremely knollish. I suspect that it’s because Danny always had a HUGE vote and they never felt they needed to prop him up by having him go last. He was safe to send out early every week. Except when he got the boot. He was never bottom 3 before that.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not saying Danny had no talent, but YASB was not a vocal master class. Meanwhile, other judges were commenting on him being pitch perfect all season and on and on. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think they ever gave up on Danny make the Final 2.

LOL. That was some serious OTT pimping from Simon. They were definitely gunning for an Adam/Danny final 2 at that point. The look on Kara’s face when Danny was eliminated? Priceless!

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll admit that it is extremely knollish. I suspect that ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s because Danny always had a HUGE vote and they never felt they needed to prop him up by having him go last. He was safe to send out early every week. Except when he got the boot. He was never bottom 3 before that.

That’s what I think. That’s why I thought he’d march right into the final two no matter what.

The “scream” may have eroded some of his casual support…

Reminder:

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Kirsten said:

Kris got almost no help from TPTB. IMO, you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get to final 2 from where he started unless you are doing something right. Especially when you have to fight your way through a field of like contestants. TPTB should recognize that and realize they have somebody that they can really market here.

I do hope TPTB realize the asset they have in Kris. I truly feel it would be a waste of talent to not help him make the best album possible.

The judges never really tried to undermine Kris, they even helped him at certain points of the competition.

Mj, it’s hard for a Kris Allen fan to look back on the competition and say the judges didn’t undermine Kris. Granted, they had their favorite(s) in mind and wanted to see them win, however, this caused them (imo) to not notice other true talent right in front of them. Why couldn’t they call Kris the ‘best of the night’ when he actually was (I know, I know it’s subjective) at least twice. “Ain’t No Sunshine” and “Falling Slowly”. I could say the same for Allison…

Several of Simon’s comments to him were undermining. “Puppy”, “Wet”, “Eating Ice for lunch…”, however, it doesn’t matter anymore at this point. The only reason it could matter is if they disregard Kris’s talent when making his album, which as far as I know has nothing to do with the judges.

I guess I pretty much saw them begrudgingly praising him when to do otherwise would have been too obvious.

gingerly, ITA!!!!

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll admit that it is extremely knollish. I suspect that ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s because Danny always had a HUGE vote and they never felt they needed to prop him up by having him go last. He was safe to send out early every week. Except when he got the boot. He was never bottom 3 before that.

And if we are sitting on the knoll, and I’ve brought a cooler with beer to share, I might as well throw another conspiracy theory out there. Maybe Kris was always one of the top vote getters (this would hold true if the finale was a blow out via texting) and that’s why they never put Kris at the end? The judges wouldn’t know, but the producers would have they are the ones that pick the order.

Danny needs some PR skills if he wants to be successful. He needs to express himself coherently and have some personality that will attract people.
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Nah he really doesn’t need PR skills. He was fine and so were everyone else. I enjoyed watching it. I want to be with Scott when he finds some chocolate. YUM!

edit: you might want to read my guidelines

As has already been mentioned, it was laughable to hear Danny, who was truly overpraised for some mediocre performances, telling LK, with a straight face, that he felt Adam was praised too much.

Danny didn’t tell LK anything. Larry wasn’t even on the show.

Hey Guys! Clay Apologizes to Adam on his page!

Clay is a total jerk. His first statement opened the door and his “apology” proved it. Blech.

I’ve never liked Danny but he didn’t seem douchey here. He was just saying what most people have been thinking and I do agree with his analysis.

Allison is so much better here as compared to her first interview with Ryan during Top 36. AI really did everyone a disservice by not having the pre-performance video packages. We should have had more chance to find out more about the contestants rather than hear more judges’ blather.

Several of Simon’s comments to him were undermining. “Puppy”, “Wet”, “Eating Ice for lunch…”

Those were undermining comments, for sure. It’s true Simon had his negative moments with Kris, but he also interrupted Randy during an elimination round to tell Kris he was “brilliant”

Simon actually gave Danny and Adam a fair share of negative comments as well. That’s how he operates.

My point was that overall, they weren’t consistently trying to undermine him and even helped him at points.

This is a really good point. The judges never really tried to undermine Kris, they even helped him at certain points of the competition. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just not convinced he was one of their favorites, nor did they see him as a threat.

I think you’re right, MJ. They never undermined him. IMO there was some subtle pimpage that went on. While he didn’t always get the best performance slots on the show, he got tons of face time in every pimpmercial and tons of fact time/solos in nearly every group number.

And they never damned him with faint praise, which can be the kiss of death for a contestant. They slammed his SWHFTM performance, but were generally pretty positive.

I do think he took Matt’s slot as the stealth TCO.

Didn’t Paula, Simon and Randy, when they were on Leno, write and enclose in an envelope who they thought would win the season? I would be shocked of at least one of them didn’t choose Kris.

I enjoy these post-Idol LKL appearances. It’s really the first time we get to see these people in a non-scripted environment and their interactions are entertaining. It’s so odd, really. I wish they would tweak the show so that we could get more of this type of interaction while the competition is underway. It’s a shame to hold off all this goodness for after the finale.

Adam and Kris are great together and make a great top 2. In other years, one, usually the winner, has dominated these interviews, while the other seems nearly mute. The exception was season 4 when Carrie deferred to Bo pretty much. I like that Kris and Adam are both articulate and funny. It makes me feel better about the outcome.

In the end, I believe Adam’s not winning will not really affect his post-Idol career. He will do what he would have done had he won and not be saddled with the negatives (i.e. “No Boundaries” and other trappings the winner must endure). Kris will benefit greatly from having won and do much better with all the promotion he receives than he would have had he not won. This time around, they really are both winners.

Adam said the same thing as Danny. He said that he thought Danny’s voters went to Kris because their styles are more similar. Why is Danny criticized for saying the exact same thing as Adam?

I find it interesting that Megan said that opportunities will always be there. From what former AI contestants say, it won’t be there for long. They should basically strike while the iron’s hot. I don’t know if Megan is just pretty naive about the music industry or if she’s just not that driven. Probably a bit of both.

Leave it to my posting twin to get inside my head again.

What a contrast: Anoop is just being himself and honest in interviewsà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦and people respect him for it because he is tactful and respectful. Danny is himself and honest and is offensive.
Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not hating on Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦he was never my favoriteà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve never hated him. He has always reminded me of a grown-up version of that kid from Jerry Maguireà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦which makes it impossible for me to hate himà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦or take him seriously.

Heh.

I think, besides his voice, that’s one of the things I love most about Anoop. He is who he is. He’s not afraid to let his intelligence show, or even poke fun at himself, or maybe even admit something about himself that might not be seen as complimentary.

Although he has been diplomatic in the EXTREME when discussing the judges/producers/show. I chalk that up to his intelligence too.

Danny. He’s so … Danny. You can tell he came from a large family because he seems to be fighting for all of the attention, all of the damn time. And I don’t know what Sarver’s problem is, but he has not come off well in this latest round of interviews. He seems awfully full of himself, without any reason to be.

I really like how Kris and Adam have handled all of the questions about voting blocs/christianity/sexuality/ etc. You can tell there is genuine friendship and respect there. I honestly didn’t care one way or the other who won. They’ll both do well.

Several of Simonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s comments to him were undermining. à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Puppyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Wetà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Eating Ice for lunchà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , however, it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t matter anymore at this point.

Heh, he did the same last year to David Cook, calling him variations of “pompous” and “smug” but DC won anyway.

Adam said the same thing as Danny. He said that he thought Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s voters went to Kris because their styles are more similar. Why is Danny criticized for saying the exact same thing as Adam?

probably because Adam was talking about their styles, but with Danny there’s an underlying suspicion or concern that he’s talking in code about religion, heterosexuality, and cultural wars.

Well just as I figured, Danny had to come out giving his sincere and so rightly “christian” comment about how he bet Kris would win. How lame. Instead of just doing right by them both on air and say they both deserved to win. Not even Paula would go against either of them. It’s quite obvious that Danny didn’t like Adam from the get go… and it’s been no secret that’s he’s thrown in a few hints to display that… “re Michael Sarver’s backstage rehearsal video… and not only that, wasn’t it Danny who never even gave Kris a second glance when they did a duet together? Danny was about Danny and his personality and demeanor is why he got voted off before Kris or Adam. I’m happy for Kris that he won but I will Adamantly believe that Adam deserved this win. People voted for the underdog and that’s all good. Adam didn’t need to win regardless. He will be an icon. But you Danny Boy, will fade away in time because you’re views and personality will not keep your fans.

Oh and another thing, I truly give mad respect to Ryan Seacrest and even Kris for their comments to Danny after he displayed a rude comment about “oh yea, I knew Kris would win, etc.” Kris immediately jumped on it calling him a “jerk” and Ryan retailiated with “And you came in 3rd Danny and moved on to Allison saying she was tremendous with her singing.

Danny should learn some etiquette manners from Kris who this whole onset of winning he’s done nothing but praised Adam. LOL and then Danny plays dumb on having a website blog. Did anyone notice following Danny’s pleasant comments, that Kris nor Adam barely said a word and looked as if they said to each in mind, “Is this show over yet? “

Niall May 23rd, 2009 at 11:23 am

As has already been mentioned, it was laughable to hear Danny, who was truly overpraised for some mediocre performances, telling LK, with a straight face, that he felt Adam was praised too much. Proof positive of a complete lack of self-awareness. Kris was definitely underpraised at times though, in particular Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m remembering this performance of à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Renegadeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  where the other guy fucked it up yet still got a tongue bath. Who was that guy anyway???

LOL, Yes, I stepped away for a few minutes and realized I forgot this blatant, imo, undermining of Kris. That said, most of Kris’s undermining came in light of the guy who screwed up “Renegade”.

I still think, though, that the judges were so set on wanting Adam to win that the way they praised him made it all seem OTT. Not that he didn’t deserve most of it.

Also, when Danny stated this, I think, I saw Adam give a slight nod…

@oceana Adam responds back to comments as he sees fit. That’s whats so great about him, not just his singing but his delicacy of expression and tact along with his distinctive charming personality.

Well just as I figured, Danny had to come out giving his sincere and so rightly à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“christianà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  comment about how he bet Kris would win. How lame. Instead of just doing right by them both on air and say they both deserved to win. Not even Paula would go against either of them. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s quite obvious that Danny didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like Adam from the get goà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Here is what Danny said in the blog that is referenced. As you can see, he says the exact same thing you wanted him to say, while also giving an honest opinion about who he thought would win. He then explains why.

“Q: Who do you think is going to win?

GOKEY: Well, if I had to answer this one, I honestly believe, and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no fault à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  I just à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  I believe that Kris is going to win tonight. And ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no fault to Adam. I think, you know, Adam deserves it just as much as Kris. But I think, you know, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s with me leaving the show, my fan base, I would
most likely assume they went to Kris.

Q: But this is not an endorsement.

GOKEY: Absolutely. This is not an endorsement. I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t endorse anybody. I purposely didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t endorse anybody, because ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not my decision and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t want anybody basing their votes out of spite that maybe I didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make it or, maybe a little resentment or à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  because people, they get their hearts involved in this competition, which is a good thing, because that will keep them involved in my music. Honestly, it doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bother me either way who wins this thing. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m happy for either one of them.”

What else would you have him do?

Didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Paula, Simon and Randy, when they were on Leno, write and enclose in an envelope who they thought would win the season? I would be shocked of at least one of them didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t choose Kris.

Yes, it was Simon, Randy and Ryan, but I’m really interested to see what they wrote…they are supposed to reveal it now that the season’s over.

They never undermined him. IMO there was some subtle pimpage that went on. While he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t always get the best performance slots on the show, he got tons of face time in every pimpmercial and tons of fact time/solos in nearly every group number.

I think that overall Kris was treated pretty decently. I think that he probably received the fairest comments out of all of the contestants. He didn’t get over the top praise/OTT pimpage, like Adam, Danny and Lil got, and he wasn’t really unfairly criticized/undermined/villified/not given enough credit a lot of the time, like IMO, they did to Anoop. I think that for the most part, the judges were decent to Kris.

When he did well, they told him so, when he didn’t do so well, they told him so, and were never extremely harsh with him, like IMO they were with Anoop.

I think that a lot of people feel like Kris is underrated and I do think that the judges didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t expect him to go as far as he did, and didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that he really had a big chance of winning until the last couple of weeks.

And they definitely pushed other for other people more over him. But I thought that overall they were pretty decent to him. I wish that Anoop had got treated as well by the judges as Kris was.

What does it say about me that when somebody puts their entire post in bold, I don’t bother to read it?

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s quite obvious that Danny didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t like Adam from the get goà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

I don’t believe that. I do think that Danny has liked Adam from pretty early on. They actually seemed close during the semifinals. When Adam made it through Danny was like one of the first people, I think that he might have been first person to congratulate him on making it. I believe that he squashed Adam with a hug when he found out that Adam had made it through.

I remember them dancing together, celebrating after Adam had made it through from Group 2. I also remember them sitting together/hanging out during the Group 3 elimination night/Wildcard candidate night as well.

I don’t think Danny never liked Adam and I don’t think that he dislikes Adam now. I think that even they probably aren’t super close now, I think that they like each other. They are different, they don’t always agree but I think that they like each other and respect each other’s talents.

OMG, I just thought of how this season may have played out from the top 10 on:

Everyday man Michael Sarver left – Kris picked up some of his votes.
Current, package deal (yea right) Megan left – Kris picked up some of her votes.
Gentle, sweet Scott left – Kris picked up some of his votes.
Smooth voiced Anoop and R & B Lil left – Kris picked up some of their votes. (Yes, I think Kris has a touch of R & B flavor to him.)
Artistic, creative Matt left – Kris picked up some of his votes.
Adorable, consistent Allison left – Kris picked up some of her votes.
Un – describable Danny left – Kris picked up some of his votes.

I voted for Kris from the beginning (didn’t vote much finale night) and I see almost all of these qualities in Kris (I can’t compare him to Danny in spite of the Christian factor, sorry). Perhaps this is how he won. The quiet storm (tm Ricky Minor.)

In addition, at the beginning of the LKL show he talked about how he wanted it to be about the music. Kris, to me, has been about the music all along.

I believe Adam has been as well, so don’t get me wrong, but to me it was how the music was expressed that made me a Kris fan.

As has already been mentioned, it was laughable to hear Danny, who was truly overpraised for some mediocre performances, telling LK, with a straight face, that he felt Adam was praised too much. Proof positive of a complete lack of self-awareness.

I interpreted that as Danny being well aware of what the praise had done to people’s opinions of him. He may have thought that something like that could have happened to Adam as well. And I think he’s right in that, because I have seen comments on it around the web. Some people liked Adam early on but then felt like he was shoved down their throats with the pimping. Danny probably saw comments on both Adam and himself out on the web.

I think Danny is getting to the point where he’s hyper-aware of himself, and it’s kind of stunting him. He seemed hesitant to even speak at times, and he seemed to really be awkward a few times. I wonder if he’s second-guessing everything that he might say and how it could be misconstrued.

Who knows, though? I’m not him, and I can’t read his mind.

I couldn’t say either whether Danny likes Adam or not. I haven’t spent any time with them to truly know. What Danny said was a bit douchey, but who would have really expected anything different to pour forth from Danny’s mouth? I don’t think what he said in any way reflects that he likes or dislikes Adam. Hell, I said that Kris would gain more of Danny’s fans than Adam and called it for Kris as soon as Danny was eliminated. My reasoning is different, but I’ve still said the same. My reasoning is that while it’s obvious that Adam has an amazing voice, many don’t like his style. Kris and Danny, while to me not having any similarity in style, each have a much less polarizing style. So, if you didn’t love Adam from the beginning (or close to it), he wasn’t going to do something to make you love him (and he obviously didn’t because he didn’t win).

If it was Kris and anybody in the finals, I’d have voted for Kris. If it was Danny and anybody in the finals, I’d have voted against Danny. I probably wouldn’t have done it with a passion though (unless it was Kris v. Danny, in which case I’d have been voting for Kris).

What does it say about me that when somebody puts their entire post in bold, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bother to read it?

Lol, I don’t bother either.

I watched the access hollywood interviews. I found it funny that Danny thought he and Kris shared similar fans.. xD If Kris was eliminated at Top 3, I’m sure the majority of his fans would have gravitated towards Adam, especially because of the Kradam bromance.

I just always remember thinking, when it’s the finale, there’s no way Kris can lose, and there’s no way Danny can win.

On the Sarver issue:
No offense but don’t give up your day job.

Uh, too late.

(slowly backing out of the room in fear Sarver will want to slug me in that godly way)

That oil rig job is not going to be there forever you know. Fame is fleeting. Especially yours.

I interpreted that as Danny being well aware of what the praise had done to peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s opinions of him. He may have thought that something like that could have happened to Adam as well. And I think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s right in that, because I have seen comments on it around the web. Some people liked Adam early on but then felt like he was shoved down their throats with the pimping. Danny probably saw comments on both Adam and himself out on the web.

I think Danny is getting to the point where heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hyper-aware of himself, and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s kind of stunting him. He seemed hesitant to even speak at times, and he seemed to really be awkward a few times. I wonder if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s second-guessing everything that he might say and how it could be misconstrued.

I agree with everything you just said here. I think from another interview that Danny was aware of what the overly glowing remarks from the judges had done to him. I think in an interview the other day, when he said about Adam:

“Adam would be happy for anybody. Adam is just a really nice guy. Alot of people have this misconception about Adam. He is just a really nice guy.”

The misconception comment tells me that Danny had seen some of the negative comments about Adam; probably comments about him being arrogant..because I saw alot of those. I thought it was a very nice comment for Danny to make. Adam thought so too, as he saie “Awwww, thats really cool.”

It seems when Danny says something really nice, people just ignore it. Everything he says, imo, is distorted and blown out of proportion.

I know that Danny has been reading all of the hate about himself, and I agree that he, to some extent, seems almost afraid to say anything at this point. At lease it seemed that way in this interview last night.

In Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s interview he predicted the winner, explained his reasons for that, but didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t endorse anyone, or discredit/put down anyone. He said that he thought that both guys were talented and deserved to win,

Danny talks out of both sides of his mouth. According to this twitter feed from Q102 Philly, he was actively telling people to vote for Kris and also telling people he hoped Kris would win, so he wasn’t exactly remaining neutral. I’m sure all the other Idols knew it too (I mean, c’mon, they spent all those hours together rehearsing), which was the subtext of why that particular moment was so awkward. I hope Slezak skewers Danny, although they are going to have to edit the hell out of those interviews because otherwise the long pauses, while the few brain cells Danny has struggle to process the overload, will make the videos excrutiating to watch. http://twitter.com/Q102Philly

Love every single one of these guys. Anoop, Scott, Matt, Lil, A/K/A, everyone except Danny Douchebag and Sarver. They are a bitter, little self-righteous gang of two. Anoop is so intelligent and thoughtful, Scott and Matt are a riot, Allison is a big ball of warmth and love, Lil is such a “mom” and Adam and Kris are both just incredibly classy, genuine and lovely guys. I will always believe Adam should have won and would have won except for the organized vote in Arkansas, and it’s painful to watch him explain over and over why he’s okay with No. 2, but if he had to be beaten by anyone, thank god it was Kris. Not only is he a talent in his own right, but he has been unbelievably gracious, more than I ever would have imagined someone could be in that situation. They both have. What an inspiring friendship.

Oh, and that Clay apology. Not really an apology in my opinion. More like, gosh, golly, I’m sorry you misinterpreted by words. The original post simply reeks of jealousy. Who on earth pays money to read this drivel?

Yes, it was Simon, Randy and Ryan, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m really interested to see what they wroteà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦they are supposed to reveal it now that the seasonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s over.

Wanna bet that envelope is forgotten now? They probably would rather avoid looking stupid for not only getting not only the winner wrong but the final 2 wrong.

The furthest I believe they wanted/expected Kris to get even when his momentum started building was 3rd place. Simon said in TV Guide Kris was the biggest surprise for him and now he “could get 3rd” and Top 3 week Randy made some comment pretty much calling him a 3rd placer like he did with Syesha last year. I absolutely think he’s been getting huge votes for a while now (especially texts) and the idiots in charge just kept hoping they could somehow push him out when they wanted him gone. Probably why they never put him towards the end, they didn’t want to help prop him up or get him more votes. Watch Simon’s face when he makes it through Top 4 week, the week they tried their best to throw him under the bus. I think Simon knew Danny and/or Adam were screwed when he made it past that. Then the following week “Heartless” was the game changer. Danny’s scream heard around the world also likely caught up with him LOL

edit: again, it’s the lecturing

I guess my problem with that, lapaix, is that I don’t think Danny is a decent guy. There’s not much he’s ever done that I like, from songs to opening his mouth to manhandling Allison. I did like his audition performance…I just find him so very full of himself. I have the problem with Constantine too, but I think Constantine at least in a way, acknowledges that he is full of himself. Egotistical and no self-awareness is a huge huge turnoff to me. I think Danny is maybe one of the worst pimped contestants ever. Mileage and all that.

I don’t always like what Ryan says either, but there would have been absolutely nothing for Ryan to ask him about had Danny not been a douche. Danny, himself, opened the door. Ryan just stepped in. As far as I can recall, that is exactly what interviewers do.

The producerà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s treatment of Kris is kind of funny. They werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t consistently trying to undermine himà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’he usually got the marks he deserved from the judges when he performed well, but rarely performed at the end of the show.

Yes! I swear he performed second like 3 or 4 times within the first half of the finals.

This is a really good point. The judges never really tried to undermine Kris, they even helped him at certain points of the competition. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m just not convinced he was one of their favorites, nor did they see him as a threat.

I remember back in the semis when I felt like he performed a very sub par “Man in the Mirror”, and he got a casual good word from Simon for it. I was actually furious when he made it to the finals. Lol.

I think that overall Kris was treated pretty decently. I think that he probably received the fairest comments out of all of the contestants. He didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t get over the top praise/OTT pimpage, like Adam, Danny and Lil got, and he wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really unfairly criticized/undermined/villified/not given enough credit a lot of the time, like IMO, they did to Anoop.

Looking back at the season, this is very true. For the most part he did get the most fair judges comments. The first time he was actually criticized badly was Top 8 week (following “Ain’t No Sunshine”) with “All She Wants to Do Is Dance”. The next two weeks he was praised again (“Falling Slowly” via Simon and “She Works Hard for the Money”).

Kris was one of my two favorites in the competition, but I never worried so much for him as much as I did Allison who consistently put on great performances and wasn’t given the credit, but on the other hand, Kris’ fair comments were almost always buried under all the gratuitous overpraising for Danny, Adam, Matt, and (early on) Lil. Then came Top 5 week when Simon all of a sudden turned on Kris and started ripping into him (and Allison). It was obvious they desperately wanted Danny and Adam for Top 2. Those last few weeks before the finale were really when undermining began, and unfortunately that’s what you remember the most.

Ya know, all the top 13 seem really get along but when it comes to Danny….there doesn’t seem to be a connection for them. For me, Danny is too self-absorbed. He cannot answer a ? without interjecting something about himself. IMHO, Ai is so damn lucky they don’t have him out there in the media as the winner.

The point is, whether or not Danny is a nice/good/whatever guy, he comes across, for a fairly large group of people, as arrogant/douchey/completely unaware of his disposition many, many times.

From what I’ve seen, I don’t think he’s a bad person, but I do think he is a bit self-absorbed and lacks a whole lotta finesse.

Why do people focus on the negative of Danny? Well, people like to dwell on the bad stuff. Just look at gossip sites. Har har.

ETA: Oh and. Kris and Adam are love. As in, I love them.

edit: don’t lecture. don’t fingerwag

Danny talks out of both sides of his mouth. According to this twitter feed from Q102 Philly, he was actively telling people to vote for Kris and also telling people he hoped Kris would win, so he wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t exactly remaining neutral. Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure all the other Idols knew it too (I mean, cà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢mon, they spent all those hours together rehearsing), which was the subtext of why that particular moment was so awkward. I hope Slezak skewers Danny, although they are going to have to edit the hell out of those interviews because otherwise the long pauses, while the few brain cells Danny has struggle to process the overload, will make the videos excrutiating to watch. http://twitter.com/Q102Philly

Further on down that twitter page, there is a link to the DJ’s page with the interview with Danny. I tried to listen to the interview, but could hear the very beginning of it, for some reason my computer won’t play the rest of it. But did you get a chance to listen to it, and if so did Danny for sure say that he wanted people to vote for Kris and that he hoped that Kris would win?

Because if he didn’t then I think that it’s possible that the DJ could have misinterpreted what he said. Just like some people think that based on the Larry King interview that Danny said that he thought/wanted Kris to win, even though he never said that. The DJ could have done the same thing. If Danny had made the same type of comments he made in the Larry King Live interview, then DJ could have misinterpreted that as Danny wanting Kris to win and people to vote for Kris.

I could see Danny telling the DJ, I think that a lot of my fans will vote for Kris, and the DJ interpreting/twisting that into “Danny wants people to vote for Kris”. It wouldn’t be the first time, that things have been twisted around.

I just don’t see Danny telling a radio DJ, that he wants Kris to win and that he wants people to vote for Kris, when he said that both Adam and Kris deserved to win. I am not going to believe that, unless I hear him say those things in the interview. So did you hear the interview and if so did he really say that?

annabelina said:

Kris was one of my two favorites in the competition, but I never worried so much for him as much as I did Allison who consistently put on great performances and wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t given the credit, but on the other hand, Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ fair comments were almost always buried under all the gratuitous overpraising for Danny, Adam, Matt, and (early on) Lil. Then came Top 5 week when Simon all of a sudden turned on Kris and started ripping into him (and Allison). It was obvious they desperately wanted Danny and Adam for Top 2. Those last few weeks before the finale were really when undermining began, and unfortunately thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s what you remember the most.

And I say, very well said!!!

I see those 10 and Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m thinking (IMO, of course!):
4 are actually painful to listen to: Scott, Michael, Lil, Megan
3 are ok with the right song: Matt, Anoop, Danny
1 is good but not my kind of music and not much star power: Kris
1 has amazing potential: Allison
à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦and then thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Adam of course, in a league of his own.

All in all, for me there was quite a big gap between Adam and Allison, and the rest. And half of the top 10 are pretty bad- I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think i could go to an Idol concert and have to sit through some of those performancesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦

Well, the above analysis is somewhat like my own, except that I definitely place Alli in a league of her own, as well. Kinda like they are in different sports. Kris, too.

I have absolutely no animus toward any of the performers and wish them all well, with riches. These poor souls can be excused all faux pas.

I do find Simon and other judges disgusting Actually, it is the whole production built solely at the expense of and humiliation of the contestants, and the manipulation of the audience that is putrid. Those like me who haven’t followed the show closely in the past actually belivED that its purpose was at least slightly objective and honest. LOL.

The thing that struck me was the paltry talent of the top 10 contestants! This is the best out of 200,000 musicians that tried out? GOD! America sucks for talent. Of the 10 mentioned above, the 4 top mentioned are the only talents, with Gokey marginal at best. The other three tops are diverse in talent. BUT, the Idol isn’t the top talent, necessarily. (pardon me for thinking out-loud about things you already know).

The finale spoke volumes regarding the talents. God, Alli and Cyndi: so sweet, bringing Kris and other musicans to tears! Adam, Kiss – beyond powerful. Gokey,lionel, great. Finally, Kris: breath taking. Of them all, I found Alli/Cyndi the most moving and powerful – tear jerking, mouth-wattering, palatable sweetness, borne of an almost impromptu performance.

Idol in the context of AI votes is won by a variety of factors, the least of which may be talent ( not likely least, tho’). BUT, try cute?sexy?sex?religion?orientation? manipulation?affiliation?presumption?age?personality?
likableness?nose picking?

In the end it appears to me that the cream did float to the top; there was just very little churned. Hmmm, maybe there is a little curd in that cream, too

Well, you go on Idol and you open yourself up to opinions. He honestly makes me wonder if he didn’t do all that stuff for him to look good based on how he’s acted on the show. People do good things for wrong reasons all the time. He’s shown himself to be painfully unchristian at times. I do have issues with that. Big issues. Then when you add the obvious anti-christian slant of his church, well I have even bigger issues. My pastor lives in the city, takes the train out to the suburbs where the church is, rides his bike from the train station 4 miles (no matter the weather) to the church. We could give him so much more, but he doesn’t want the money to go to him. He finds so many others more needy. He has no freaking need of Escalades or Rolexes. I’d prefer him to be more comfortable, but he maintains he’s comfortable how he is. I guess in addition to Danny’s asshatedness, I have issues with the church he is such a big part of.

Oh Danny. I think he’s a fine person, really. I’m not a fan of his music or his performing, but I think he’s fine, but my gosh he has NO TACT whatsoever. He comes off looking so bad just because he doesn’t think about how he’s wording things and how it’s going to come off. He’s the complete opposite of Kris in that regard, in that Kris is SO careful about everything he says and making sure it doesn’t come off the wrong way. Danny either honestly doesn’t realize how bad he looks, or he does and just doesn’t know how to correct it. Eek.
This is an eclectic bunch. Very, very different from last season that’s for sure.

A few more comments on Danny:

It’s pretty much established that Kris is a humble, nice (kick-awesome) guy.
So, I’m pretty sure there’s a reason he’s so much closer to Adam than Danny, who, on paper, would seem to be a better match for him.
Also, compare Kris’ body language in his duet with Danny to his body language in his duet with Adam.
HUGE difference.

I’m not trying to insinuate that Danny is a mean, evil d-bag. I’m just stating an observation.

edit: NOW I’ve banned you

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Adam would be happy for anybody. Adam is just a really nice guy. Alot of people have this misconception about Adam. He is just a really nice guy.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

The misconception comment tells me that Danny had seen some of the negative comments about Adam; probably comments about him being arrogant..because I saw alot of those. I thought it was a very nice comment for Danny to make. Adam thought so too, as he saie à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Awwww, thats really cool.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I think that he has probably seen some negative comments about Adam as well, and I also think that is where the misconception comment comes from. I thought that was a nice of him to say that about Adam.

Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s shown himself to be painfully unchristian at times.

:ponder_tb:

What has he done that you consider à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“painfully unchristian? I know that I might get a full list on this one LOL.

For me, the “right way, the Godly way” was very unchristian. Seriously it’s not for us to judge. It’s if you’re doing things in the Godly way to love everybody. The main lesson I get from the bible (and unsurprisingly every other religious text) is to love people…to treat everybody kindly. I don’t think Danny does that. I feel those words showed him to be a hater. I didn’t vote for Adam because I don’t like his music. I voted for Kris because I like his. I am not a pro Gay person here (well actually I am but not in voting for singing). I just found that to be very hateful from Danny. I also find Danny to be only caring of Danny, but I’ll give him a pass on that because I don’t necessarily find that hateful just rather sad. I do find the first comment truly hateful. That’s all. Ultimately Danny will go away from my universe and I won’t have to deal with him. For now if I want to see other Idols, I’ll be subjected to him. I guess I’ll live through it for now. I have previously mentioned on this thread that what he said about Adam and Kris wasn’t necessarily bad, just maybe not very smart (doesn’t surprise me). I do, however, find Danny Gokey/Christianity to be a bit of an anomoly because he doesn’t act as Christian to me as he protrays himself to be. For people who act in a Christian manner, please see Kris Allen. It’s about walking the walk and not talking the talk. Adam, though not at all Christian, protrays the spirit of Christianity to me much more so than Danny Gokey.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s pretty much established that Kris is a humble, nice (kick-awesome) guy.
So, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m pretty sure thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a reason heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s so much closer to Adam than Danny, who, on paper, would seem to be a better match for him.
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Maybe because they lived together?

I just banned someone for disregarding my warnings about lecturing and fingerwagging.

Take your self-righteous indignation elsewhere please. If you can’t handle criticism of your favorite, STOP READING.

My Guidelines:

http://mjsbigblog.com/?page_id=1172

Maybe because they lived together?

Probably.
But the whole roommates thing could go either way.

ETA: Also, he did “live together” with everyone else. As in, they were all in the same house.

Probably.
But the whole roommates thing could go either way.

ETA: Also, he did à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“live togetherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  with everyone else. As in, they were all in the same house

Living in the same house is not the same as sharing a room.I don’t talk to all my fraternity brothers anymore, but I still am close friends with my roommate.

Living in the same house is not the same as sharing a room.I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t talk to all my fraternity brothers anymore, but I still am close friends with my roommate.

LOL well obviously.

kks let’s stop dragging this out and talk about how awesome Allison’s red hair and bubbly personality are.

LOL well obviously.

kks letà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s stop dragging this out and talk about how awesome Allisonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s red hair and bubbly personality are.

Love Allison, love her voice, but had a hard time taking her seriously. The stuff she sang was too mature for her to be singing, and it was off-putting to me. I don’t want to hear 16 year olds singing about needing “hot stuff this evening” or asking a lover to “turn out the lights, come back to bed”. Again, I think her voice is incredible (although she has enunciation issues and keeps putting an “h” before a lot of her words while singing), but she’s singing the wrong type of material. I see her being a superstar when she matures.

I would hope that had Danny and Adam shared a room that Danny would have learned that Adam is truly no different than himself. We don’t know what Kris came into the competition thinking, but we do know how he came out. That’s all that matters to me. I’m pretty secure in my belief that Danny left the competition a homophobe. I’d have to hope that if they’d have shared a room that Danny would have learned that ultimately there’s absolutely no difference between the two of them. They both have hopes and dreams. The both have regrets and pain. They both laugh and they both bleed. I guess I just give people the benefit of the doubt to realize that we are all human and deserve the same.

I wish that Anoop had got treated as well by the judges as Kris was.

Me too, & not just Kris. I think it would have made a huge difference not only in the message it sent to the viewers, but even more importantly it would have done wonders for Anoop’s confidence. It makes me sad to see how the judges comments undermined his self-confidence and made him uncomfortable on stage, compared to how confident & joyful he was in the wildcard round performing “My Prerogative”. I know he understands AI is a reality TV show & a lot of the crap is invented to create a story line & isn’t personal, but I still think it sucks to be the victim of that. I hope he can forget it and just enjoy performing again on the tour. I’m waiting to see what the format of the show is this year, because I want to see Anoop singing at least 3 songs solo or I’m not going!

I’m glad there will be no more judging after each performance! I think Jason Mraz even said he was uncomfortable having Simon look at him & he felt like he was being judged when he performed, even though he knew he wouldn’t be critiqued by the judges.

dial back the defensiveness

http://www.accesshollywood.com/dish-of-salt/dish-of-salt-the-american-idols-visit-access-hollywood_videotab_1110048

Someone posted this access hollywood interview with all of the idols earlier in the thread. I just finished watching it. It’s really good.

The idols all seem relaxed and playful with each other. Those who said earlier that Allison does not like Danny, well, I just don’t see that. She sits beside him again here….reaching out to partially hug him twice….although she does call him bipolar. lol.

Seems to me they all get along. Anoop said his best friends were Danny and Matt. Danny does say in this interview that America could not have gotten it wrong with those two.

Oh, and also Danny mentioned that Adam had painted his fingernail, too. This Danny/Adam divide, I think, is totally manufactured in many people’s heads. I think they all seem to get along.

Now, it remains to be seen if all this love will continue when they are crammed together in a bus for months on end. lol.

I guess they’ll need one large bus for the 7 guys and one mini bus for the 3 girls!

I know it’s hard to believe but in the past contestants from the show have had favorites for Final two night. And they have shared that with the press, media, tV and I honestly don’t remember much criticism of them.

If Kris had gotten the boot Final 3 and ended up rooting for his best bud, Adam, I’m sure many people would have found that wonderful and endearing and charming in a bromance kind of way.

And Danny never said Adam didn’t deserve the OTT pimping. He just said it hurt him and guess what I agree.

Me too, & not just Kris. I think it would have made a huge difference not only in the message it sent to the viewers, but even more importantly it would have done wonders for Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s confidence. It makes me sad to see how the judges comments undermined his self-confidence and made him uncomfortable on stage, compared to how confident & joyful he was in the wildcard round performing à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“My Prerogativeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . I know he understands AI is a reality TV show & a lot of the crap is invented to create a story line & isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t personal, but I still think it sucks to be the victim of that. I hope he can forget it and just enjoy performing again on the tour. /blockquote>

ITA. I was very upset with the way that TPTB treated Anoop this season. I thought that he deserved to be treated a lot better than how they treated him. I wish that they would have treated him a lot better, I agree that it would have done wonders for him. I hope that he relaxes and does well on tour too.

Someone posted this access hollywood interview with all of the idols earlier in the thread. I just finished watching it. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s really good.

I thought that this interview was fantastic. I loved seeing how playful and relaxed the Idols were with each other. I didn’t get the vibe that any of them disliked each other and that some of them disliked Danny. Not only does Allison reach out to him, but she also leans her head against his shoulder in one of the videos.

Anoop confirms what I thought about his relationships with Danny and Matt, when he says that they are two of his closest friends there. I figured that he was close with those two, because he has mentioned hanging out with them and caring about them in some of his interviews.

Matt has also in another interview that he is the closest to Danny. Matt, Danny and Anoop are all very close to each other.

And I thought that the tidbit about Adam painting Danny’s fingernail was cute. They may not very close, like Danny is with Matt and Anoop, or like Adam is with Kris and Allison but I do think that they are friends and get along.

And I thought that the nicknames that they had for each other was funny. I like the nickname Matty Scat Cat, and I LOL, at how Danny called Megan, “Meggy.” :laugh_tb:

Yeah, I thought it was cute when Anoop said his nickname for Matt and Danny was “stupid.” He deadpanned it. So funny.

Yeah, I thought it was cute when Anoop said his nickname for Matt and Danny was à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“stupid.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  He deadpanned it. So funny.

I thought that was funny too. I also liked how they discussed each otherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s personality traits. How Anoop and Matt being the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“complainersà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  of the group, and how the Idols touched upon Anoop being an only child and having to adjust living with a lot of people all of a sudden.

And how they talked about Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s eating habits, and Adam and Danny getting their hair done, and everyoneà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cleaning habits. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s nice to see that they have all gotten to know each other quite a bit, and that they can joke around with each other and appreciate each other.

If you canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t handle criticism of your favorite, STOP READING.
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The guidelines should be changed to you can stick up for your favorites but no lecturing and fingerwagging.

Good luck with that line of glasses Danny.

Can you imagine someone admiring your new designer glasses and saying, “thanks–they’re Gokeys!” ?

I work at an Optometrists office and can imagine people asking for the glasses that Danny wears so why not his own line?

I loved the Access Hollywood videos. It’s obvious they have a lot of affection for each other. I’m an only like Anoop but unlike him I loved being around a lot of people and often stayed with my relatives with the 9 kids. It’s good for him to experience.

ppwars May 23rd, 2009 at 3:43 pm

dial back the defensiveness

DAMMMMMM!!! 1st time I’ve been censored for being defensive! I’m usually censored for being patently offensive!

But try this:

Allison’s teeth are fitted with braces. They are impressive enough that her Idol friends asked if they were grills! The braces account for her enunciation problems.

In an interview with Slezak, Allison speaks to song selection which has included songs perceived as too mature for her. Alli addresses the issue with a clear, logical, and mature explanation that is hard to reasonably refute. It certainly indicates that her selections are artful and made within the purpose of the contest.

When Danny Gokey first appeared on my TV screen, I was mildly interested. Then I was sick of the dead wife story. Then I got over it and thought he had a good voice, and I waited to see what he could do with it. Then I got bored waiting for him to gel. By the time he was left, I was ready to see him go.

But now I just feel sorry for him. LOL. MAN, he sure catches some hate, doesn’t he? I guess if he wasn’t so fresh off his grief I wouldn’t care, but I can’t imagine what this must be like for the guy. I hope he’s stopped reading the internet.

Found this video on joesplaceblog of everyone in the press room (including Kiss) when they found out who had won -interesting reactions!

http://vimeo.com/4777333

Adam said the same thing as Danny. He said that he thought Dannyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s voters went to Kris because their styles are more similar. Why is Danny criticized for saying the exact same thing as Adam?

He’s not being criticized for saying that. He’s being criticized for saying he thought Kris would win, rather than being diplomatic (like most everyone else was) and saying instead: “I have no idea who’s going to win–it could be either one of them”. He did not need to choose just because someone asked him to.

And as for Danny saying “American couldn’t have made a mistake”–he stole that line from Kris almost verbatim. That, and Sarver’s backpeddling when he brings up the fact that Adam immediately hugged Kris after Kris was announced the winner and saying (something like) “that’s just who he is–he’s just the nicest guy” was just a feeble attempt at making things right after the Sarver/Gokey “Godly love” fiasco. Nice try, Sarver–I’m not buying it. We don’t need you to tell us what a nice guy Adam is–we already know that. What we need is for you to admit you’re an ass & then shut up.

During this same (silly) Dish of Salt interview when Gokey is asked again about his (fans’) votes going to Kris and he begins to try to “explain” himself again, the camera goes close on Matt who, IMO, appears to be a bit aprehensive–as if he is just waiting for Gokey to shove his foot in his mouth again and looking like he wishes he could crawl inside his hat–thinking to himself {shut up, Danny–just-shut-up}.

As for Adam getting the “pimp” performance lineup spot so often, I have my own theory on this. I don’t think it was so much to pimp Adam as it was to pimp the show itself. Saving Adam for last could have just been a ratings ploy. AI knew what they had. They knew people were tuning in to see Adam, whether it be his devoted fans or people just curious to see what the buzz was about. So, save him for the end to keep people watching for the entire show. Let’s face it, Adam didn’t need a pimp spot in order to be remembered.

To the poster who wondered if she/he is the only one who wasn’t that impressed with Allison–no, you are not the only one. I find her voice difficult to listen to–has almost a monotone -no range-quality-and often sounds nasal-y to me. On the other hand, I was never a Janis Joplin fan either, however, I do love Stevie Nicks–go figure.

Ryan got one thing right, early in the interview
about Danny Gokey.

“You are the antithesis of Kris Allen”…

That is to say, he is both a REAL LOSER…and
he lacks any of the cool or character of Kris.

edit: You’re banned too

Danny’s exact word’s in the interview to the question of who is going to win:

“It’s going to be a close one, man. I think…I think a lot of my fans might possibly try to vote for Kris Allen. (and so that) But I think…People, just vote for who you’re going to vote for. What I want to tell people is just don’t vote for anyone out of spite. You know, being angry that their favorite didn’t make it, you know. Just vote, vote…vote good.”

Obviously he’s reading the crap on-line and see’s the Gokey fans on AI.com as well as elsewhere talking about how they were going to vote for Kris because they hate Adam. He tells them not to vote out of spite.

People need to give the poor guy a break. No one better to hate this year?

Jlc,

You say that Danny could have chosen to say “Well, I don’t know who’s going to win.” instead of saying he thought Kris would win. Yes, well when Adam was asked to which group he thought was the top group, he also could have chosen not to choose.

What’s the difference?

Oh, and also Danny mentioned that Adam had painted his fingernail, too. This Danny/Adam divide, I think, is totally manufactured in many peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s heads. I think they all seem to get along.

I tend to agree. While they may have been competitive rivals on the show, I’d bet these two get along just fine. They might not be as close as “Kradam” but I seriously doubt they hate each other’s guts or even dislike each other. Who knows, they might even be…friends. :surprised_tb:

If Kris had gotten the boot Final 3 and ended up rooting for his best bud, Adam, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure many people would have found that wonderful and endearing and charming in a bromance kind of way.

Definitely. If Adam had gotten the boot at Top 3, I doubt many of his fans would have voted for Gokey in the finale so I don’t know why it was so wrong for some of Danny’s fans to vote for Kris. There’s no doubt Danny would have received the bulk of the Glamberts’ wrath had Adam been the Top 3 “shock boot”, not Kris.

I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see Danny telling a radio DJ, that he wants Kris to win and that he wants people to vote for Kris, when he said that both Adam and Kris deserved to win.

See, I do. I can easily see him saying one thing for the cameras and something completely different when he’s chillin’ with some DJ and forgets that the guy is taking notes on his comments. And no, we don’t have a smoking gun tape of him saying it, like we do with the “right, Godly” love video.

But the way I look at it is this. In law, there’s something called the dying declaration, which is the statement made by the guy lying in a pool of blood on the sidewalk with a knife in his gut who, with his last gasp, says, “Joe did it.” The police officer who heard the statement but didn’t see the crime can still testify in court because, well, there’s a pretty low probability that a dying person would lie about who his killer was. So courts consider the information to be reliable. The same reasoning applies by analogy to these tweets. They were being sent pretty close in time to when the statements were made. And there were two of them, two days apart. If it were just one statement, then maybe I’d question if he got it right. But not two. Not so close in time to when the statements were actually uttered. It’s not as if the DJ talked to Danny and then 3 days later sat down to write an article about it. So it just makes sense there’s a high probability the tweets are reliable.

Can I prove any of it? No, there’s no video (yet). I can’t prove that Arkansas cast 38 million votes or that Kris won by a fairly sizeable margin either, but my gut tells me both are true simply based on the way the information came out and the fact that, in neither case, have there been outright denials. In fact, Ryan’s whole question to Kris, Adam and Paula about whether they knew what the margin of victory was just seemed calculated to 1) make Ryan look blameless (because if he didn’t know, the information couldn’t have come from him), and 2) maybe make it seem as if it that information wasn’t really out there because why would someone tell Billy Bush, but not Ryan? Nice try, but I’m not buying it.

Listen, I don’t hate Danny with the fire of a thousand suns or Sarver either. But obviously Danny’s a competitive guy and I think it stuck in his craw that Adam made it to the final and he didn’t. It was supposed to be Adam v. Danny in the end and Danny’s only consolation prize was that at least Adam didn’t win it all. I think that’s the real reason he was rooting for Kris. And bottom line, for all of Danny’s talk about faith and wanting to move and inspire people by his story and his music, to me, the true Christian here is a guy like Kris who inspires others simply by being the person he is: kind, gracious, accepting, loving. He radiates those qualities. I’ve read a lot of posts this season and I can’t remember a single one where someone has questionned Kris’s character. Danny and Sarver on the other hand … IMO, Danny and Sarver talk the talk, while Kris walks the walk.

If Kris had gotten the boot Final 3 and ended up rooting for his best bud, Adam, Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure many people would have found that wonderful and endearing and charming in a bromance kind of way.

I have to agree with this. I think that the fact that I don’t like anything about Danny Gokey makes me judge him more harshly than is objective.

That said, I’m done sipping haterade for season 8 and am ready for all of the tour (homage de fromage) vids of KRADAM. Please don’t stop the KRADAM.

You say that Danny could have chosen to say à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Well, I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to win.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  instead of saying he thought Kris would win. Yes, well when Adam was asked to which group he thought was the top group, he also could have chosen not to choose.

Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the difference?

Excellent point. And btw, I had no problem with Adam making the choice of who he thought performed better that night and believing he was in that top group…didn’t bother me one bit. I like “real” people…the standing in the middle refusing to choose seems silly to me when everyone knows what the person is thinking.

I guess if he wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t so fresh off his grief I wouldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care, but I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t imagine what this must be like for the guy. I hope heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s stopped reading the internet

This. I hope the guy doesn’t read the Internet anymore also. I was reading an interview where the AI voice coach mentioned how she could tell Danny was still in the grieving process. I’m with you about it seeming that all of the bashing could be very difficult to cope with at this time, along with all of the other stresses. I do feel sorry for the guy. I think that’s why I feel compelled to show the other viewpoint when it comes to Danny. He wasn’t even my favorite to win. lol.

Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not being criticized for saying that. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s being criticized for saying he thought Kris would win, rather than being diplomatic (like most everyone else was) and saying instead: à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I have no idea whoà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to winà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’it could be either one of themà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . He did not need to choose just because someone asked him to.

Why should he be a liar?
He is saying what he thinks and what everyone else was thinking too. He may have been brought up that way to tell the truth.
There is a totally distorted picture being painted that is not Danny Gokey. He is just not the way people are perceiving him to be.
He is not self absorbed and he is a compassionate person with a big heart. God has a way of vindicating his children who are wrongly accused, and bless them. We’ll see what happens with Danny.
This show was featuring the top 10. I enjoyed it.
How great they all know how to get along and seem to see the good in each other.

Excellent point. And btw, I had no problem with Adam making the choice of who he thought performed better that night and believing he was in that top groupà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t bother me one bit. I like à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“realà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  peopleà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦the standing in the middle refusing to choose seems silly to me when everyone knows what the person is thinking.

I had no problem with him choosing either but some people think every Idol contestant besides Danny can commit no wrong while everything out of Danny’s mouth is a cardinal sin. He lost his wife, who he had been with for 10 years, and that’s tough on a person. Maybe he doesn’t know how to act without her? Maybe she reined in his personality a little? I think a lot of his problem is that he reads what is said on-line about himself and then parrots a lot of it back.

People were saying he talked about his wife too much, so he stopped mentioning her at all…and someone he was still using her for sympathy votes. People were saying he didn’t take enough chances so he comes out with Dream On and then people say he’s a joke. People say he takes himself too seriously so he laughs about the scream…and then people say he’s a jerk for laughing at himself. People criticize his dancing so he stops and then they say he’s boring.

He can’t win and I’m sure it’s frustrating to him. He’ll have a nervous breakdown and then will be criticized for that too I bet.

I, shockingly, liked all the Idols this year and they seemed to all like each other. I don’t know why people single out Danny to hate on.

Yes, well when Adam was asked to which group he thought was the top group, he also could have chosen not to choose.

Whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the difference?

Well, first of all, Adam wasn’t asked to pick which group he thought was the top group–he was asked which group he thought he belonged in.
For all we know he thought the group he chose was the bottom group.

One difference is, he truly was put on the spot–and in front of millions of people. Danny was doing a blog interview. But you’re right, he could have chosen to remain neutral and refuse to choose. He was damned if he went left, he was damned if he went right.
Quite a pickle.
I guess, having meditated on it for a bit, I’d have to say the difference is—he didn’t choose one person over another to win when there were only two remaining. And I would love to see someone ask him about that night in one of these numerous post show interviews. Maybe I’ll skip on over to Ellen’s or Bonnie Hunt’s or some other talk show sites and email them to ask him that question. I’d be interested in hearing his answer. Better yet, I’ll email the LK show & see if it gets asked by Ryan on Monday night.

Well, first of all, Adam wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t asked to pick which group he thought was the top groupà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’he was asked which group he thought he belonged in.
For all we know he thought the group he chose was the bottom group.

That is the most frustrating thing when I hear that. No. He didn’t. He choose what group he thought was the top group (and rightly so since he belonged there) and even if he thought he was choosing the bottom group, well, he was still telling the group he choose that he thought they weren’t the best, wasn’t he? He was still in a way insulting someone, right?

Danny said he thought Kris would win because he thought his own fanbase would be more likely to vote for Kris. He was asked a question and he answered it. He didn’t say he wanted Adam to lose. He said there was no wrong answer, that’s just what he thought. I’m sure he took a visit to AI.com and read the posts and that’s where he got that impression from. He even repeated that people should vote for who they like and not vote out of spite.

Danny, again, just can’t win.

I watched Larry King when the Idols were on and thought there was a lot of dancing around the truth. It was most likely being diplomatic instead of saying exactly how they felt. Too bad they are not going to accept live calls. I wanted to call in and ask Ryan why he and Simon have already started downplaying Kris when he hasnt even put a cd out yet. I found Paula to be somewhat incoherent compared to what shes been this season as a rule. I think when Danny said some voted for Kris due to the excessive judges pimping he was stating what a lot of us here have posted before the vote came in. im not a big fan of his or Michael but I did like Danny’s duet in the finale. Ive stated many times here and even emailed the record company, that Ruben keeps making the wrong kind of records and needs to get back to the soulful ballads like on Idol. In one of his interviews, he stated that they wanted him to do a hip hop type album, but he wanted the ballads. I hope they dont try to push Kris into something thats not him. I fault the record company for a lot of the Idols not making it big because t hey made the wrong kind of cds. I would never have voted for ruben or fantasia had they sung on idol the music thats on their cds. I think Randy and Simon have even stated the same thing about some of the idols. Good material and the right genre with real promotion and each of them could do really well after all this exposure.

Danny. Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s so à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦ Danny. You can tell he came from a large family because he seems to be fighting for all of the attention, all of the damn time. And I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know what Sarverà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s problem is, but he has not come off well in this latest round of interviews. He seems awfully full of himself, without any reason to be.

Hehe. In the Access Hollywood interview with the Top 10 (minus Kradam), I think Danny said he comes from a family of 6 kids, so that would explain him always gunning to be the centre of attention (or seeming to do so). I liked the interview, they’re all quite funny – although it would have been more enjoyable if they weren’t all talking at the same time so much (because I missed some of the jokes)! Best part: Allison telling Danny “It’s ‘cuz you’re bipolar!” LOL

The Danny/Michael combo is interesting – they both try to dominate the conversation. Not trying to dominate *each other*, but they definitely didn’t try to give anyone *else* a chance to talk.

he was choosing the bottom group, well, he was still telling the group he choose that he thought they werenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t the best, wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t he? He was still in a way insulting someone, right?

um…did you see where I said you were right?

And by the way, I did email the LK show that question. Let’s see if they pick it from the millions of questions they get (HA!) and if so, Adam will have the same chance that Danny has had to explain his actions.

I find Danny authentic & genuine. If you cannot be right no matter what you say or do, then Danny just be yourself, follow your heart and make some good music.
You have a large enough fan base to help you to succeed.

I do like Adam a lot, he is very polish and he handles the media very well. Good for him. However, it is exactly because he is so tactful & diplomatic in every answer he gave that I do not take his words at face value. How much does he really think the controversy concerning his sexuality cost him the title? What does he really think about the coronation song?

If you think he has answered these questions very well and feel he really spoke his mind, that’s totally fine with me.

What does he really think about the coronation song?

Yeah, I laughed outloud when he told Kara thank you for the song and then said “it’s beautiful.” Total bs.

Btw, I like Adam too, but we, in my house, thought that was so funny.

pj
As for ROF, Johnny Cash would have loved it. I said this at the time and I will repeat it now, he was punk country. He was ALL about pushing the envelope. Randy Travis, not so much. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s his problem.

I totally agree. Cash was a rebel, he loved pushing buttons and tearing down boundaries and perceptions – and Hel-LO, anyone remember that he covered a NIN song (doesn’t get much non-country than that)?? And I just read that he sang vocals for a U2 song (Zooropa album). Adam’s RoF was the performance that made me actually sit down and start watching the show rather than just having the tv on as background noise. I was flabbergasted while watching the performance, but my first thought (when I was able to form coherent sentences again) was “Johnny Cash would have LOVED that, it’s such a shame he wasn’t around to see/hear it!”

yeah

and let’s not forget the wicked cover Cash did of Soundarden’s Rusty Cage.

Cash WAS a total rebel. no doubt in my mind he would of loved, or at the very least appreciated, ROF.

I say…if you can’t follow my guidelines, you wind up in modertion

….become an AI judge?

The Danny/Michael combo is interesting – they both try to dominate the conversation. Not trying to dominate *each other*, but they definitely didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t try to give anyone *else* a chance to talk.

I think that as a whole the group did a pretty good job of being interviewed together. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that Michael and Danny didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t give anyone else a chance to talk. I think that anyone could have jumped in and talked, and there would have been room made for them to talk. Even if a few people still would have talked more than others.

Danny talked more than some of the others, but I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that he purposely tried to dominate the interview, or that he heavily dominated the interview.

Matt also talked quite a bit, Lil and Allison talked a decent amount. Scott made sure that he said what he wanted to say.

The only people that didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t talk that much were Anoop and Megan and neither want of them looked like they were anxious to speak. Anoop seems reserved and quiet, and looked like he was more content with not talking that much and Megan looked tired.

Sarver came off as arrogant!

who actually cares what he has to say? he was in the house for three weeks!!

The guy is clinging to the cliff with his fingernails and doesn’t wanna let go!

pretty pathetic actually

Yeah, I laughed outloud when he told Kara thank you for the song and then said à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s beautiful.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Total bs.

LOL. :laugh_tb: I think that Adam seems like a sweet guy, but I wonder if he really thinks that “No Boundaries” is a beautiful song. I get the feeling that even Danny thinks that song is rough based on some comments he said in the blog.

And a lot of people think that song would fit Danny better than Adam or Kris. But I don’t think that Danny is crazy about that song. I wouldn’t be surprised if Adam really didn’t like that song.

Also him thinking that Paula Abdul performance on the show was really good…. Okay maybe he really meant that. At least he probably honestly thought that she looked great. :happy_tb:

I think Adam was saying wow over how she was dressed and her jumping into the guy’s arms and being lifted over his head, pretty risky even with all the double sided tape in the world. The shoulder strap could have broken, etc. Maybe that is one of the reasons why they pre-taped it so if there was a wardrobe malfunction it could be fixed (other than the fact that Paula has trouble thinking and talking at the same time, can you imagine her trying to sing and dance live?)

But the way I look at it is this. In law, thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s something called the dying declaration, which is the statement made by the guy lying in a pool of blood on the sidewalk with a knife in his gut who, with his last gasp, says, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Joe did it.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  The police officer who heard the statement but didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see the crime can still testify in court because, well, thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a pretty low probability that a dying person would lie about who his killer was. So courts consider the information to be reliable. The same reasoning applies by analogy to these tweets. They were being sent pretty close in time to when the statements were made. And there were two of them, two days apart. If it were just one statement, then maybe Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d question if he got it right. But not two. Not so close in time to when the statements were actually uttered. Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not as if the DJ talked to Danny and then 3 days later sat down to write an article about it. So it just makes sense thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a high probability the tweets are reliable.

Can I prove any of it? No, thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s no video (yet).

Actually using this scenerio to describe Danny’s actions?
Is it THIS serious?
Oh My!

Also I really can not see where Danny is looking for attention and pushing his face in the camera. Not at all.

If anything, it seems he is more low key then the others, and staying in the background most of the time.
He definitely does not talk much except for being asked a question. And anymore he probably is afraid to talk.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.become an AI judge?

This is priceless!–lol

I’ve warned you several times. Now you are in moderation

The Danny/Michael combo is interesting – they both try to dominate the conversation. Not trying to dominate *each other*, but they definitely didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t try to give anyone *else* a chance to talk.

Absolutely. The other thing they were trying to do in those Access Hollywood interviews was some serious damage control. Keep in mind these interviews are taking place after that Sarver/Danny myspace video went viral and Sarver had to pull it and put out a public explanation (cuz if sure wasn’t an apology). The comments they made on film and then posted about there being only one “right” kind of love between two men and that any other kind was somehow not “Godly” was juvenile under any circumstances, but in the season of Adam with sexuality being the hot topic and all over the news? … it was simply inexcusable. They are two of the oldest guys in the competition, but act like a couple of middle schoolers. Even Allison, at only 17 years of age, is light years ahead of them.

I think Charice is way better than most American Idol contestants. You guys should check this girl out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuYxd9AxOLo (Charice sings I Have Nothing/I Will Always Love You)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OzToEkJ-vc (Charice sings Alone by Heart)

Absolutely. The other thing they were trying to do in those Access Hollywood interviews was some serious damage control.

In fairness, Danny said some really nice things about Adam before that little vdeo came out. I do think that he thinks highly of Adam. Plus, my take on the video (which I didn’t like, btw) was that Danny was at least uncomfortable with each of those things that he said.

I agree about it being juvenile, though.

There’s bound to be some culture clash when you bring into a single house such disparate temperaments and backgrounds. I don’t find Danny’s or Michael’s working class conservatism surprising at all–any more than I find Hollywood’s vulgarity surprising.

In fairness, Danny said some really nice things about Adam before that little vdeo came out. I do think that he thinks highly of Adam.

I do think that he cares about Adam and admires him. One of the stylists Miles mentioned around top 4 week that Danny has always admired Adamà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s sense of style, and wanted to dress more like him. But that Danny felt like he couldnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t pull off most of the clothes that Adam wears. So the stylists worked with him, and tried to make his style a little more like Adam’s and à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“rockà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  influenced.

Danny didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mention this at all, but the stylist bought it up. So we have at least one other person and there are probably others that can testify to Danny having admiration for Adam. I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think that he said what he did in the video for à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“damage controlà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . I think that he genuinely cares about Adam, he seemed happy to say those things about Adam, IMHO.

On the Sarver issue: I wasn’t impressed with Michael and was majorly disappointed he made it into the Top 12/13. I sincerely believe that Alexis should have been selected for the tour.

Sarver is nothing special; plenty like him the bars and clubs all over. Alexis has the ability to go beyone Idol, but it would have been much easier if she had made the tour.

My feelings about Danny Gokey haven’t changed. He is an a$$. Thank goodness he didn’t make the finals.

Grammie Kari May 25th, 2009 at 2:05 am

My feelings about Danny Gokey havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t changed. He is an a$$. Thank goodness he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make the finals.

And we wouldn’t have so many great Kradam moments to watch either.

wow!
michael sarver is so arrogant
anyways
kris is such a sweetie and is so adorable
i love the way he lets everyone speak ahead of him
i also think him and lil rounds have a connection (friendship lol)
i think they genuielly like each other