Congratulations New York City…

New York! Yay for New York! I’m glad it didn’t go to Little Rock but neutral territory.

Yay!!! New York City here I come!! This is in February, right?

Yeah NYC this is great! Hope I can win or get tickets. Wonder if they will do a trio singing type of thing.

I would assume they’d do some duets… but maybe not. Don’t want to see anything old though.

I wonder when they will notify people about tickets? I need to plan how I will get there and where I will stay.

They must have had that queued up and ready to go. They probably had a LR promo pre-taped with Kris and a LA pre-taped with Allison since those where the top three cities.

saga
12/19/2009 at 9:56 am

I would assume they’d do some duets’ ¦ but maybe not. Don’t want to see anything old though.

I’m sure they’ll be using it as an opportunity to showcase the music from their albums. However, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few covers and/or a reprise of a couple of the AI tour routines. So if you’re intending to go, be prepared.

It’s a shame that it’s too far away for me to attend, but congrats to those in the area who can attend. ^^

saga
12/19/2009 at 9:56 am

I would assume they’d do some duets’ ¦ but maybe not. Don’t want to see anything old though.

I agree……. new stuff if they do any type of duets. Wonder how many songs each. Wonder since it is a “free concert” (you know merchandising will be off the hook) if they will each get like and 45min-1hr set each. (Hope) I also wonder if they will just have one after the other or mix it up throughout. Where are they having it?

I agree’ ¦’ ¦. new stuff if they do any type of duets. Wonder how many songs each. Wonder since it is a ‘free concert’  (you know merchandising will be off the hook) if they will each get like and 45min-1hr each. (Hope) I also wonder if they will just have one after the other or mix it up throughout. Where are they having it?

With them having their own full bands now, it would have to be one after the other because they will need to set up.

Well, I don’t think they’ll mix it up because each band wants to have their gear and stuff. I can see them inviting each other on their respective sets for duetes but I think they’ll perform in chunks…

Great news! New York will definitely “Rock” the concert. Just wish I could go but I’m sure we’ll get video (please,oh please!) from MJ and the great people on this website who’ll get to go!!

Adam’s promo was great and I do love the JZ and AK ‘New York’ song they use in it.

Hope Adam, Kris, and Allison do something together just to recognize each other ‘one last time’.

Where are they having it?

They haven’t announced yet. I’m hoping it isn’t some place too big. If I can’t get something reasonably close to the stage, there’s no point in going.

Please announce the date SOON! I want to buy a plane ticket as a Christmas present to myself!

This is just totally cool.

Date and venue, still to be determined.

Why do I have the date February 13th on my mind? Maybe it’s something else happening that day…

Why do I have the date February 13th on my mind? Maybe it’s something else happening that day’ ¦

Hahaha… I thought I heard Feb. 14… I think Kris did an interview where he talked about this concert being on Valentine’s Day.

YEAH!!!!! I better be able to get tickets!!! I can’t wait to see Adam in concert again. Is it really FREE?? OMG – I wonder how many days in advance we will have to line up to get the tickets???

I’m sort of glad that NYC got the concert. I just hope the fan warring has ebbed by then, because I seriously can’t stand it. I also hope this doesn’t turn out to be touted as an AL concert with special guests KA and AI.

Start spreadin’ the News…………

Really happy that NY was the winning city

I am saving for Adam ´s solo tour, so I hope we get videos of this event.

This is great. Especially for Allison. Any chance she can get to sing to a large crowd the better. Her album is great, people just need to hear it.

I do hope for a duet with Adam and Allison on either one of their new songs and it would be fun if all three of them sang one song together.

I also hope this doesn’t turn out to be touted as an AL concert with special guests KA and AI.

Great way to start the non fan warring!

(Couldn’t resist, the post was too contradictory )

I am soooo happy that it’s Allison with them and not Danny Gokey You go gurl

Why the heck is Adam Lambert front and center on that banner and have his name first? He did not win AI, Adam should be second, behind the guy that WON.

Squirrely
12/19/2009 at 9:59 am

I wonder when they will notify people about tickets? I need to plan how I will get there and where I will stay.

The contest rules say people will be notified Jan 8th.

So glad it’s not in freaking Arkansas. What a waste of promo that would have been for all three.

mermichelle
12/19/2009 at 11:03 am
Why the heck is Adam Lambert front and center on that banner and have his name first? He did not win AI, Adam should be second, behind the guy that WON.

Partly because Ryan has no backbone..

well, mermichelle, it is NO LONGER AI – it’s not an AI concert – these guys are trying to promote their albums. Maybe the promoters thought that Adam would bring most people? IDK

For all the people planning to descend on NYC, are you planning to come without tickets? 300 pairs of tickets does not seem all that much.

If you entered the contest and your zip code is more than 75 miles away (I think it was 75), you are not eligible for the free tickets.

The contest page that we voted on also said “NY Metro Area”. When they say that they mean the tri-state area: NY, NJ, CT.

so the concert is free or they are just giving away some of the tickets?

So glad it’s not in freaking Arkansas. What a waste of promo that would have been for all three.

Even Kris should have realized that. He should be thinking about new fans cause the Arkansas fans sure didn’t buy his album.

Why the heck is Adam Lambert front and center on that banner and have his name first? He did not win AI, Adam should be second, behind the guy that WON.

Ditto. But I think it’s not really focused on the order of the results of AI or the top 3, if not, Danny Gokey should be here instead of Allison (that would be awful by the way), surely it’s a 19 thing, and they support Adam the most.

Why the heck are they displayed in reverse order?

I caved in and downloaded Allisons CD. Listening to see what she can replace her 1st single with…

golcook, yep, you are right – if it were an AI concert there should be Danny instead of Allison. Idol rules no longer apply.

so the concert is free or they are just giving away some of the tickets?

I was wondering that myself. I have the feeling that they will sell some tickets as I saw StubHub spashed on the screen of the video where Adam congratulates NYC (which looks pre-recorded).

http://www.ryanseacrest.com/video?MediaID=100

shucks, I wish I still lived in NY now

It would be nice if the people who actually voted for this got first dibs. Maybe they’re the ones that will be notified on Jan 8th.

Wow. What a shocker it is that a large city like NYC won. I mean, seriously…what’s the point of the contest? lol

Why the heck is Adam Lambert front and center on that banner and have his name first? He did not win AI, Adam should be second, behind the guy that WON.

Be prepared to be even further distressed because Adam may end up closing this show. I like Kris a lot, but this concert is not a AI event, so I don’t think the 1, 2 results of that show matters at all. Record sales may dictate the order.

they should do this concert in Madison Square Garden or Carnegie Hall

Why the heck is Adam Lambert front and center on that banner and have his name first? He did not win AI, Adam should be second, behind the guy that WON.

I dunno, that’s been the promo banner since they first announced the contest weeks ago. Ask Ryan.

Why the heck is Adam Lambert front and center on that banner and have his name first? He did not win AI, Adam should be second, behind the guy that WON.

Because the script from Season 8 still says that AL is a ‘ROCK GAWD’ and the biggest star ever. Reality be d*mned.

So if you didn’t register and vote for this contest by using a NYC zip code, can you even win tickets? And after they give out the 300 free tix, are they going to sell tix to the general public? Or just to people who live in NY area?

Why the heck is Adam Lambert front and center on that banner and have his name first? He did not win AI, Adam should be second, behind the guy that WON.

AI is over, bb.

Why the heck is Adam Lambert front and center on that banner and have his name first? He did not win AI, Adam should be second, behind the guy that WON.

I think it’s because he’s more well known to non-fans. I suspect because of the press generated around the AMA’s along with every news outlet, local and national talking about it.

Kris’ style is so laid back, his music is something you can sit back, listen to and enjoy. He’s not something a non-fan would remember because there are so many other well known acts in the same vein as Kris. Kris is awesome and I will go see him when he comes to Atlanta.

With that said, I suspect the lineup will be Kris, Allison then Adam. Not because it’s the order of worse to best but because of the type of music they play. Even on the AI tour a lot of reviewers loved Kris and his set, but they mentioned it was hard to go from the power, dancing rock of Adam to the laid back alt-rock of Kris.

If anyone wants to drag out the old “Kris is the winner so he should ….” complaint, I ask “Why is Allison on the bill? Dany Gokey came in third.”

Think about it.

LOL at people getting riled up over a promo banner that’s been out for ages. And it’s not due to the recent controversy, unless promoters used a time machine when designing it.

I would bet that in order to avoid controversy they will end this concert with all 3 of them doing some song or songs together — a mini “Don’t Stop Believing” as it were.

I thought this was a Ryan Seacrest “sponsored” contest with the 3 singers being from American Idol. I don’t think this is an extension of the show or is it being done to “honor” the results of season 8.

It looks like Ryan has a deal with 19 and is hosting a show that will highlight 3 of their current talents: Adam, Kris, and Allison.

If this is true..the show should be about featuring the 3 as individual recording Artists…highlighting their latest music…and has been promoted as a “treat” for fans of each of the performers AND not for fans of American Idol.

I wouldn’t think that AI protocol will have anything to do with the concert and the order of appearance will be handled by the show’s producer and not by anything else.

So congrats to the fans who voted for something special for their city. And hopefully some media will attach itself to this show and Adam, Kris and Allison will get some marketing boost.

SparklesATL, I was trying to say the same thing, but you have said it so much more eloquently

So if you didn’t register and vote for this contest by using a NYC zip code, can you even win tickets?

guess that depends on if they seek proof of address before distrib tickets.

The rules also say you will be disqualified for free tickets if you voted more than once. Are they really gonna waste the manpower to check?

Partly because Ryan has no backbone..

No it’s because Ryan is smart and knows the concert draw for the majority of people going will be Adam.

The order of performance will be Allison (rocker music) then Kris (mellow music) then Adam (rock out kick ass performances) the closer.

So Kris is scorned again no video to congratulate the winning city.

And actually I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they stuck to the summer’s Idol tour order. While Idol is over, this is as closely associated with it as you can get and I can’t see rearranging the acts for one night geared primarily to people who are already big fans.

The rules also say you will be disqualified for free tickets if you voted more than once. Are they really gonna waste the manpower to check?

sidewalkstory, that’s a good question, I don’t think they will, they were just trying to discourage people from doing this.

That banner has been out for months, pre- AMA and everything so it’s just how Kiis and the promoters wanted to present it.

I would bet that in order to avoid controversy they will end this concert with all 3 of them doing some song or songs together ‘” a mini ‘Don’t Stop Believing’  as it were.

Your probably right… I think Adam will have the last set, just based on the fact that the organizor seems to view him as the main draw. You always put the main draw last so people stay for the whole concert.

If the concert had ended up in LR things might have been different because then I guess Kris would have been the main draw.

If it wasn’t for organizors deciding the order I don’t think any of them would mind keeping the order from the AI concerts.

If you’ve seen the videos of Kris’ JingleBall concerts, you’d see that he has been bouncing all around the stage and that Andrew rocks some mean guitar solos. His concerts have been high energy. Still not the full out production that Adam will likely have when he starts doing concerts, but not “laid back” either.

I would bet that in order to avoid controversy they will end this concert with all 3 of them doing some song or songs together ‘” a mini ‘Don’t Stop Believing’  as it were.

What controversy? The one brewing among the few Kris fans that think because he won AI he is number one in promotional appeal or sales?

Congratulations to New York City for winning our “Ryan, Rock My Town” contest for a free concert from American Idol’s Adam Lambert, Kris Allen & Allison Iraheta!

New York City beat out Kris Allen’s hometown of Little Rock, Arkansas for this once in a lifetime concert event!

NYC residents, check back to ryanseacrest.com soon and follow Ryan on Twitter for more information on how YOU can get tickets to the show! We will be announcing the concert date and venue soon!

Above is from Ryans web site. I can imagine that NYC residents who voted would get preference for tickets, otherwise the whole voting for your city thing would be for nothing. The thing is sponsored by stubhub and that’s where tickets will come from when they are available.

I would be shocked if Adam didn’t close.

With that said, I suspect the lineup will be Kris, Allison then Adam

I suspect this will be the order as well…..

Hmmm, I personally think the order s/b Adam, Kris and then Allison, but if I were going I would want to see Kris last, his Jingle Balls have been amazing! I believe he and his band have had the most experience together so far and they just keep getting better and better.

Actually, I almost wish this thing wasn’t happening…

So glad it’s not in freaking Arkansas. What a waste of promo that would have been for all three.

Even Kris should have realized that.

Yeah, really. Would have been Kris playing to people who already decided whether to buy his stuff and Adam and Allison playing to a crowd that only gives a shit about Kris. Much better that they cross fanbases and hopefully regular people in a big city like NY.

I can’t remember what info you had to provide in order to vote, but if it included anything about your location, that would be stored in a database somewhere and they would use that to offer tickets to the people from NYC who voted for NYC. It wouldn’t be hard at all to use the magic of info tech to figure that out.

And that’s how it should be. The NYC people who voted should get to go to the concert. I only hope there are some leftover tickets for the rest of us who don’t live there!!

soverymel
12/19/2009 at 11:32 am

And actually I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they stuck to the summer’s Idol tour order. While Idol is over, this is as closely associated with it as you can get and I can’t see rearranging the acts for one night geared primarily to people who are already big fans.

Nah! They aren’t going to be doing their Idol covers, bb. They’ll be using this to promo their albums. All new music w/maybe a cover or two. It’ll be completely changed up. And, yes, Adam will be last. He’s the best choice for closer. Unlike the idol tour (where I felt the need to be polite), it’s now a professional gig. If Adam went first, I’d leave afterwards as I wouldn’t want to bring down my high by sitting through lower energy sets.

I believe he and his band have had the most experience together so far

If the concert is in February, it really doesn’t matter who’s had more experience at this point.

sidewalkstory

you know there will be people who will blow this up into a whole big Adam vs. Kris issue.

Also, I will bet you this is going to be at a smaller venue — not somewhere like MSG. And I doubt the press — will bother covering it. They might mention it in the paper or on the radio as an upcoming concert or something. But why do I get the feeling that Jim C. and Slezak will be the only media types that do any in-depth coverage?

I think Adam will have the last set, just based on the fact that the organizor seems to view him as the main draw.

He IS the main draw. Like him or not, why can’t people realize that?

When I went to the barricades at MadSqGar for Jingle Balls, Kris must have been there early for sound check as while we were waiting for people to arrive, Kris was already coming out to get something to eat. He basically was ignored/not recognized. The person next to me said “there goes Kris”. People didn’t even break their conversations. No fuss was made.

Kris is the person some want to do promotional work? LOLOLOL

MJ, you need to do better research or go back to elementary school. Arkansas is AR. Alaska is AK.

I can’t wait to see Adam’s band doing more than WWFM. THey have been rehearsing like crazy lately for the NYE gig, and have mad talent. I think people will be blown away by the full set. I especially look forward to how Lisa Harriton will perfom the keyboard tracks, which are so prevelant on the CD. She has not had the chance to shine yet with WWFM. Not to say that Monte, Longineu, and Tommy aren’t amazing as well!!

BearFan4
12/19/2009 at 11:44 am

MJ, you need to do better research or go back to elementary school. Arkansas is AR. Alaska is AK.

To be fair, from the perspective of a New Yorker, they’re both the middle of nowhere.

New York City is win win for everyone concerned. If they open up tickets for sale that is a nice spring trip for invested fans that “can’t wait” to see their favorite, and it’s also nice for fans that really liked all 3 performers during last season of AI.

It’s no one’s home town…it allows equal distribution of fans which should give all 3 performers an equal share of the audience adulation. And if 19 is smart it may also do well for some late winter marketing since there are a number of TV entertainment or talk shows who still broadcast from New York.

So the interesting thing for me will be to see if some publicity can be drummed up outside of the show for any of the performers. Wonder if Ryan will show up as emcee for the performance?

Oh, I’m getting excited just thinking about this gig. I can’t wait until they turn out the lights and LP gets to do a drum solo with his new light sticks. That will totally rock the place out.

If you had a concert including Taylor Hicks, Kat McPhee, and Daughtry, how would you set it up?
’nuff said.

They won’t do this because it would mess up the flow of the concert, but it would be sort of funny if they broke up the sets so the crowd didn’t know who would be performing when. Say for instance Allison does two songs, then Adam, then Kris, oops now here comes Adam again, now back to Allison or some such thing.

Personally I’d bet the order will be Allison-Kris-Adam or Allison-Adam-Kris.

Personally I’d bet the order will be Allison-Kris-Adam or Allison-Adam-Kris.

I’m placing my bet on Kris, Allison, Adam. From lowest to highest energy sets. If you’re looking at the concert as a single unit, you want the energy to build as the night goes on.

Um, ADAM wasn’t the main draw at the Z-100 Jingle Ball either. The fans were mainly there for Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift or John Mayer.

At several of the other JingleBalls Kris has done, he’s been the main draw.

JMS

Again, go watch the videos of Kris’ JingleBall sets. That isn’t low energy!

LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT! Little Rock Ak beat out Los Angeles Ca ??? and people where only allowed to vote ONCE? Do they know how to count in “once” in AK? Just say’n, seems odd!
In an interview with Jim C. Adam stated, Why not LA?, it’s where I live” and Jim answered because LA was lame compared to NY.. they both laughed! well LR is lame compared to LA! I just don’t trust this “counting” business anymore since Idol. Please don’t get me wrong as I love Kris and think he is very talented but still feel that some of the powers that where cheated in Litte Rock!

They won’t do this because it would mess up the flow of the concert, but it would be sort of funny if they broke up the sets so the crowd didn’t know who would be performing when. Say for instance Allison does two songs, then Adam, then Kris, oops now here comes Adam again, now back to Allison or some such thing.

It’s not about flow, it’s about putting up the set for the different bands. Takes too long time.

Personally I’d bet the order will be …or Allison-Adam-Kris.

I wouldn’t mind this set-up as it will allow me time to get to the barricades after Adam’s set.

agathe.hb
12/19/2009 at 11:30 am

SparklesATL, I was trying to say the same thing, but you have said it so much more eloquently

Awwww thanks!

I don’t understand why AI fans don’t realize that after AI is over, after the winner gets signed, after all of the after-show promo for the top 3, it’s over. There’s no longer a “winner” at that point, each one has to get out there and make a record and promote a record, just like any other artist who gets signed.

Thank god New York won.

Better media coverage than LR and they all need to attract new fans. I think the order of the names on the ads and line-up of the pictures is a clue as to the sponsors’ 1,2 and 3 designation.

But, you know, they might pitch the question to the idols and I can easily see Adam saying, “I don’t care, let Kris go last since he holds the title of “AI.” It’s only one concert and I honestly don’t think Adam would think it was a big deal. Personally, I wouldn’t care either.

girlygirl
12/19/2009 at 11:56 am

JMS

Again, go watch the videos of Kris’ JingleBall sets. That isn’t low energy!

It is compared to the other two. Kris may bounce around but that doesn’t make for high energy all on it’s own. It’s the music too and Kris’s just doesn’t rock out as much as either of the other two. Nothing wrong with that. It isn’t the type of artist he is. But it also means that when you’re designing a concert, you want to put your biggest draw and your highest energy acts at the end of the show. The goal is to create a musical arc.

ETA: Sidewalk story, Just in case it wasn’t a joke, I don’t think there will be any barricade meetings for this show.

Actually, I almost wish this thing wasn’t happening’ ¦

Why? It’s great promotion for all three of them. Just because Adam will most probably close?

Um, ADAM wasn’t the main draw at the Z-100 Jingle Ball either. The fans were mainly there for Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift or John Mayer.

I am not saying that Adam is the main draw wherever he goes. From the ads, I take it they (the organizors) consider him to be the main draw for THIS event.

I don’t care if he is first, second or last. I care that he performs the best he can.

Alyeska2

People in Los Angeles don’t care. I live in L.A., so I can say that. L.A. is a very apathetic city about this type of stuff.

Thrilled it’s in NYC. Lots of love for all the performers to go around. AI S8 is ancient history. Who won, who didn’t, makes no damn difference.

All three are focused on their solo careers. The fact that they are performing at the same show, so what? For those who want to see one, two or all three, rejoice!

Adam, Allison & Kris (in alphabetical order) ‘“ Bring it on! New York City can handle what you’re ’bout to do!

I don’t care if he is first, second or last. I care that he performs the best he can.

I agree! I just want to hear FYE live on stage and all the other songs too.

He IS the main draw. Like him or not, why can’t people realize that?

I don’t get it because he is not/would not be the main draw for me. Sorry. Kris appeals to me soooo much more and then Allison.

mermichelle
12/19/2009 at 11:03 am
Why the heck is Adam Lambert front and center on that banner and have his name first? He did not win AI, Adam should be second, behind the guy that WON.

Maybe, because this is not American Idol anymore? And maybe because Adam is outselling Kris 3 to 1. Also, I do think that Adam will be closing the show and rightfully so.

On a happier note, I am so glad that the concert is in NYC, better promotion for all of them, maybe a bigger venue, more buzz, more new fans. The only confusing thing is that this is a free concert, so they cannot sell tickets. I’ve read the official rules, they state that you may vote once to enter the sweepsteaks and have a chance to win 2 tickets,and at least 300 pairs of tickets will be distributed that way. But, that’s only 600 ppl and over 8,000 voted for NYC, that is a lot of fans missing out. I did see stubhub promo on Adam’s video, so hopefully they will give some free tickets to the pple that voted and sell the rest? We just have to wait and see.

Eeeek…glad I am not invested in season 8 batch of idols. I, for one, hate the AI tour, I can’t imagine being excited for a concert that has fans trying to show each other up on who is more OTT for their idol.

People in Los Angeles don’t care. I live in L.A., so I can say that. L.A. is a very apathetic city about this type of stuff.
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girlygirl, why is that? is it because so many famous people live there and people are just blase about everything?

I doubt there will be any barricades. Especially if the venue is in midtown. The NYC police would NOT be thrilled.

And seriously, if you aren’t going to stay to watch all 3, why not just save your money and wait to go to the solo tour? I didn’t understand that during AI tour and I don’t understand it now. Especially since it was usually well over an hour after the show that th Idols actually came out to the barricades and it didn’t seem to matter whether you left early or not when it came to the chance of being able to get an autograph.

He IS the main draw. Like him or not, why can’t people realize that?

I don’t get it because he is not/would not be the main draw for me. Sorry. Kris appeals to me soooo much more and then Allison.

sorry if you are in the minority.

the promoters want to attract attention for advertisers/sponsors. putting Kris’ or Allison’s face front and center is not gonna cut it.

I don’t get it because he is not/would not be the main draw for me. Sorry. Kris appeals to me soooo much more and then Allison.

Well, duh, ofcourse Kris and Allison appeals more to their fans than Adam. That goes without saying. We’re talking about who is considered to be the main draw by the organizors.

And seriously, if you aren’t going to stay to watch all 3, why not just save your money and wait to go to the solo tour? I didn’t understand that during AI tour and I don’t understand it now.

Well, part of the idol tour draw is that you get the warm fuzzies of seeing all of them again no matter how bad they are.

But with this one, they’ll all get longer sets than they did with the idol tour otherwise the show will last less than an hour. For a chance to see 45minutes of a show, it’d be worth it. Especially since none of them have enough original music (or time) to plan for a longer set than that. It’s more a matter of how much the tickets cost and what venue they choose that will decide it for me. If they pick someplace with crappy acoustics, I’ll wait for Adam’s individual tour. I already saw him once where the sound system totally sucked. I’m not willing to do that again.

angela

Who knows how many of the people who voted for NYC actually live anywhere near NY? I know that on the fan boards, this one included, people from all over the country were using fake addresses/zip codes to vote. 10021 seemed a particularly popular zip code being floated on the boards.

agathe.hb

Pretty much. There are concerts featuring well-known bands/musicians all the time. And movie premieres. And red carpet award shows. Etc. etc. Because these are regular events, it seems harder to get too excited about any particular one. And although if you live here you aren’t likely to live next door to or personally know someone famous, it’s pretty common to spot them in a restaurant, in a shopping center or just walking down some street.

It’s pretty telling that American Idol is not a big deal here. Adam and Allison both live in L.A., yet not enough people cared about seeing them in this one off concert to vote. I’m sure the friends of those two figured they could just wait to see them when they go out on their own tours.

you know there will be people who will blow this up into a whole big Adam vs. Kris issue.

I agree, which is exactly why I think they will keep the tour order of Allison, Adam and Kris last. To put Adam last would only fan the flames of the whole “true winner” of S8 debate and I don’t think Adam wants to go there. The more I think about it, the more I think Adam will push to keep the tour order as that will make the Adam vs. Kris thing more of a non-issue. These guys are friends. They just want to enjoy themselves performing for the fans. It’s only one event and their own tours will be coming up soon enough. No biggie.

girly girl, thanks. That’s what I was thinking. I used to live in NY, visited LA a couple of times – enough to see how different those two cities are

LaurelG, I seriously doubt it – all bets are off now – these guys are on their own and trying to have a career going – it’s not about IA anymore. Just look at the order they have put them on the banner. I bet you a case of beer that this is going to be the order they will perform

It really shouldn’t matter what order they perform in. IF I had a chance to go to this concert (which I most likely won’t), I’d be excited to see all 3 of them and wouldn’t be leaving early. Much better than watching the YouTube videos or trying to listening to a mermish livestream/cell cast.

I doubt there will be any barricades. Especially if the venue is in midtown. The NYC police would NOT be thrilled.

I just posted on a previous page about being at the barricades for Mad Sq Garden. I also was at the barricades for The View and for Letterman. Where do you think those places are? If you haven’t figured it out, they are all in the heart of Manhattan. It’s a pretty big city here.

edit: Wow. edited for rudeness. Dial it back, please

Yay!!!! More Adam music!!!

I think we pretty much know how Kris set will be since he has perform so many times while Adam and Allison’s are little known which makes the waiting more exciting!

they should do this concert in Madison Square Garden or Carnegie Hall

Highly unlikely the concert will be at Madison Square Garden. It seats @20,000. That’s bigger than the venues played during the summer tour. Carnegie Hall has @ 2,800 seats. If they decide to go with something of this size there are other better options for their type of show.

Well, duh, ofcourse Kris and Allison appeals more to their fans than Adam. That goes without saying. We’re talking about who is considered to be the main draw by the organizors.

Oh, I knew what you meant. I guess, to me, just because the media gets behind someone for various reasons, and the promo has been behind someone from the beginning, it doesn’t make me want to see that person last. The whole “who puts on the best show” is still a matter of opinion. I guess I get tired of many thinking Adam is the only one worth seeing…because it just is. not. true., except of course to his fans.

sorry if you are in the minority.

Don’t be sorry, I’m used to it. I’m just happy minority doesn’t mean least.

I agree with you GirlGirl. I would like to see all three two. And I don’t understand way people would just want to go for one person and not enjoy the whole show. They might miss out on some other great singers. Kris has All ready grown alot more since Idol and even Tour and so has Allison. Shot the main reason I’D want to go is for Kris but I wouldn’t leave after he sings if he went first or come after the other two preform if he was last. I think it’s very rude and I really think all three are very talented but just different singers.

they should do this concert in Madison Square Garden or Carnegie Hall

MSG? really? The place holds about 20,000 seats. That’s a pretty expensive concert. Especially if it’s free. Even the Idol tour wasn’t booked there.

And I don’t understand way people would just want to go for one person and not enjoy the whole show.

Kris is boring to me, plain and simple. He is not worth my time. Nice guy, good friend to Adam, but BORING.

I don’t understand why AI fans don’t realize that after AI is over, after the winner gets signed, after all of the after-show promo for the top 3, it’s over. There’s no longer a ‘winner’  at that point, each one has to get out there and make a record and promote a record, just like any other artist who gets signed

Don’t you know that AI will never be over? LOL

damn i wish i was in NY (or US) ….

I don’t care about the order but if there is a booking my bet will be on Allison Kris and Adam – the reverse order of the photo and names in the ads.

Will Ryan be there to host the concert? I guess not but his company sponser the show so I don’t know…

I bet you a case of beer that this is going to be the order they will perform.

LOL. Make it a case of wine (or a couple of bottles) and you’re on.

I do think they will keep Adam slightly more front and center in the promotional stuff because he is the main draw, but they can still arrange the performance order any way they want once people are actually at the concert. Again, I’m just going by what I think Adam would prefer. If he has any input at all (and I don’t know that he does) I think he would push for Kris to go last, just because I think it would be incredibly awkward otherwise. Having Ryan Seacrest sponsor the event and having only the three AI contestants perform ties it pretty closely to AI in my book. And Kris is the AI title holder – for a year anyway – like Miss America. lol.

If this were an event sponsored by some outside group with other non-AI people performing, then I would agree, it shouldn’t be about AI anymore.

Well, I for one only want to see Adam, but expect I would enjoy Allison’s set based on the post idol vids I’ve seen and I expect to be bored for most (not all) of Kris’s. But as long as they serve alcohol (something besides beer) to get me through, I’m up for it and would expect to enjoy the evening as a whole. Again, though, the venue really matters. If they don’t choose something with decent acoustics, it wouldn’t be worth going at all.

Who knows how many of the people who voted for NYC actually live anywhere near NY? I know that on the fan boards, this one included, people from all over the country were using fake addresses/zip codes to vote. 10021 seemed a particularly popular zip code being floated on the boards.

Yep, and the same thinf happened on Kris’s fan boards with voting for Arkansas. What’s your point?

Maybe I’m missing something here but I thought this was a paid gig and that as a promotion Ryan is giving away 300 sets of 2 tickets from fans that live within a certain radius of the chosen town, which is New York. That was how the whole thing was set up and the “free” tickets were an incentive to VOTE.

Now that the city is selected the wheels will start spinning as a site is selected, tickets are put up for sell (I would assume through Stub-Hub since they are one of the sponsors) and the logistics of the show are put together by the director/producer.

I would think that since American Idol successfully held about 6 shows in the greater NewYork area that a 5000 to 10000 seat venue wouldn’t be a real hard sell. Now I might be totally off base here, but I’m just sort of thinking out loud on a beautiful sunny warm day her in the Southwest.

How’s the weather in the chilly Northeast? And just remember I don’t get the beautiful ambiance of snow for Christmas….no sleds on my roof.

Ugggh, hope this concert doesn’t continue the fan warring into the new season. We will be a full month into American Idol at that point, so I hope most of you will have moved past it by that point. I know I will already be enamored with someone who won’t make it past the top 24 just like every year.

The rules also say you will be disqualified for free tickets if you voted more than once. Are they really gonna waste the manpower to check?

I doubt it would take very little man power at all. If it was their intent from the beginning, then the voting program was probably set up to remember the voters’ IP addresses and pinpoint their locations. It will probably take them about 5 minutes to figure out who voted multiple times.

MJ, you need to do better research or go back to elementary school. Arkansas is AR. Alaska is AK.

I just wanted to point out there are many polite ways to point out a typo.

Ya’ know, unless one personally polls a few thousand concert goers, any conjecture on who is the biggest draw at a concert or a Jingle Ball is all just a matter of opinion. Who knows what motivates 10,000 people to attend an event. Probably a large variety reasons, I would think.

If I were attending (which I’m not, as I do not live in NYC or the surrounding area), the performance order would be of not consequence to me. And, since I’m not going, it’s even less important. So, I really have no opinion on that.

I think he would push for Kris to go last, just because I think it would be incredibly awkward otherwise.

I don’t think the promoters/sponsors are worried about Kris’ awkwardness. It’s a business.

I would think that since American Idol successfully held about 6 shows in the greater NewYork area that a 5000 to 10000 seat venue wouldn’t be a real hard sell.

Actually, I think you are off base. The difference is time. A lot has gone by since the summer tour which is a big draw for AI fans and a ritual for many. And while, yes, these three were the biggest draws of the shows then, enough time has gone by that people that are only AI fans aren’t likely to turn out in heavy numbers. They’ll have to appeal to people that have followed them post AI and like the original music which won’t be as big of a crowd. And, really, I’m not sure how they would have any idea how to estimate it. That would be a fascinating article to read. You could well be right about the ease of filling a venue that size, but then again….

Ugggh, hope this concert doesn’t continue the fan warring into the new season.

It will. Sigh.

We will be a full month into American Idol at that point, so I hope most of you will have moved past it by that point.

Some will never move on.

That’s why my addendum to the guidelines about S9 threads is coming. Watch for that.

Who knows how many of the people who voted for NYC actually live anywhere near NY? I know that on the fan boards, this one included, people from all over the country were using fake addresses/zip codes to vote. 10021 seemed a particularly popular zip code being floated on the boards.

Yep, and the same thinf happened on Kris’s fan boards with voting for Arkansas. What’s your point?

Yes, I don’t understand either (truthfully). Did it say anything in the rules about fans being restricted to voting only in their own areas? I don’t remember reading anything like that. I voted NYC because that is where I live (and loving it btw), my daughter and her friends voted as well and some other ppl I know. I also still want to know how they are going to go about tickets, I hope they will sell some, I never win anything…:(
And just for the record, I’m going for Adam, Alison, Kris in that order, and I bet it’s going to be Alison, Kris, Adam performing, in that order.

I think he would push for Kris to go last, just because I think it would be incredibly awkward otherwise

I would push for all three of them performing last – how about that for a compromise Regardless of the show order, what may make the most sense is to just have them mix up the sets: Allison song, Adam song, Kris song, Adison duet, Kradam duet, etc. Then end with a group song.

So happy for NYC winning this thing! And I’m all kumbaya right now

Now I might be totally off base here, but I’m just sort of thinking out loud on a beautiful sunny warm day her in the Southwest.

How’s the weather in the chilly Northeast?

SNF, lol! We have over a foot already in DC, and more still coming. I have NEVER had this much snow in my life, I think. I love it until I have to go out and drive in it (which hopefully won’t be for a few more days).

hmmm. The banner and order of names suggest what the order might be. I’m hoping it is since I might win tickets because I only voted once! That’s right, I followed the rules!
American Idol is over! I don’t even see it written on the banner anywhere!
I’m so effing excited!!!

I would think that since American Idol successfully held about 6 shows in the greater NewYork area that a 5000 to 10000 seat venue wouldn’t be a real hard sell.

I bet the venue they choose will be about 2,000. There just was an Idol concert 6 mos ago. In this economy, I don’t know how many people are coming back for a second concert, especially when the new season will have already begun.

The original voting page said “NY Metro Area” so it doesn’t necessarily have to be in Manhattan. The Brooklyn Academy of Music would be a fine venue. I will hate leaving Manhattan (if that is the venue and I am fortunate enough to get tickets) but it is an easy commute.

I don’t think the promoters/sponsors are worried about Kris’ awkwardness. It’s a business.

I’m talking about the awkwardness between two friends, Kris and Adam. (If you read my post, you’ll see I was prefacing my remarks by saying “if” Adam had any input.)

The problem is we know very little about the logistics and size of this event. According to the Sweepstakes Eligibility rules, Ryan Seacrest Productions is listed as the Sponsor.

If anyone wants to drag out the old ‘Kris is the winner so he should ‘ ¦.’  complaint, I ask ‘Why is Allison on the bill? Dany Gokey came in third.’ 

Think about it.

Wow….I totally even forgot that Allison placed fourth! Very good point you made….

Based on that, I think the order will be Allison-Kris-Adam. As pointed out earlier, this is business and the order will probably be based on popularity/record sales.

Hope whoever’s going has fun.

Well LaurelG, even thought Adam and Kris are friends, they also trying to push their careers and albums. I don’t think either of them would give the other his spot in a concert, just because it’s their obligation to their label to sell records. Having said that, I agree with people here, who have said that it is the promoters, who decide about the concert.

Yay!!!! More Adam music!!!

I think we pretty much know how Kris set will be since he has perform so many times while Adam and Allison’s are little known which makes the waiting more exciting!

Yes to this! Just getting to see him perform more will be great!

If anyone wants to drag out the old ‘Kris is the winner so he should ‘ ¦.’  complaint, I ask ‘Why is Allison on the bill? Dany Gokey came in third.’ 

Think about it.

Yeah, good point. I remember when the contest first came up, there was a lot of discussion about why Kradison always seemed to get grouped together, without Danny (e.g. not just this concert, but the Elle photo shoot and some other stuff). Kinda weird, imo. Though it may just be a matter of Danny being the last to get signed, and him signing way later than the other 3, and their albums being out at the same time, vs. his coming months later, etc.

Ugggh, hope this concert doesn’t continue the fan warring into the new season.

It will. Sigh.

Season 7 threads and information didn’t cease because of season 8. David Cook threads were posted almost daily last Summer and Fall. The headlines thread would be completely filled with Cook news and talk on days there wasn’t a Cook thread. There are still many Cook and Archie threads posted weekly. (even though Cook’s tour is over) I’m not complaining, as I like to read about the two Davids and other past idols.

Why wouldn’t there be threads and information in the headlines for Adam, Kris and Allison in the upcoming months? It seems as if they will all be starting their tours in 2 or 3 months. Why wouldn’t the same amount of information be posted about them as David Cook’s tour?

Many Cook and Archie fans picked a favorite this past year also and commented on them also. Why can’t Adam, Kris, Danny and Allison fans do the same? Can’t you follow the new season but still be a fan of an idol the year before? Heck, there are a couple of hardcore Carrie fans here that post about her, and that was four years ago. (I like Carrie also!)

Mary102, I think you have a point here. As far as I remember the summer tour, Danny had a lot of fans, who would gladly see him giving a concert. He just does not have the material yet and no album to promote, I guess.

So, 3 recording Artists who have released albums this winter, were headliners for Jingle Bell shows, have appeared on all the talk shows, are either headlining or being heavily promoted for New Year’s eve concerts, won’t be able to sell 2000 tickets (or really 1400 tickets if you take away the freebies) for a live concert.

So, I still don’t completely understand the rules for who gets tix, and if it is only NYC peeps, and if it’s a random drawing for tix, then that kinda sucks. But if it is open to people just buying tickets and going to the NYC concert, they will have no problem whatsoever getting that many people to show up, imo. There are TONS of Northeasterns who want to go to this thing (Boston, New England, Mid-Atlantic). I’ve driven many times this last year to NYC to see Adam and Kris sing only one or two songs, let alone a whole concert, and so I think the interest should be no issue.

But again, depends on how they’re giving out the tickets.

The promotion for the concert referred to it as as a free concert. I took that to mean that tickets were free. The 300 winners could be guaranteed to get tickets in case there is a greater demand than ticket supply.

Why wouldn’t there be threads and information in the headlines for Adam, Kris and Allison in the upcoming months?

did anyone say anything about having no threads about Kris or Adam? No, that is just crazy conjecture on your part. There is a difference between threads about Adam and Kris and constantly fan warring about, “well Kris won so he should get this, he has been so slighted and everything is just so unfair”, “well Adam has the most fans on twitter and EW just named him sexiest Jew so clearly why would anyone come for Kris?”

The promotion for the concert referred to it as as a free concert. I took that to mean that tickets were free. The 300 winners could be guaranteed to get tickets in case there is a greater demand than ticket supply.

If I’m not lucky enough to win tickets, I wouldn’t mind paying to attend, just saying, promoters

I thought’ ¦Ryan is giving away 300 sets of 2 tickets from fans that live within a certain radius of the chosen town, which is New York. That was how the whole thing was set up and the ‘free’  tickets were an incentive to VOTE.
Now that the city is selected the wheels will start spinning as a site is selected, tickets are put up for sell (I would assume through Stub-Hub since they are one of the sponsors) and the logistics of the show are put together by the director/producer.
I would think that since American Idol successfully held about 6 shows in the greater NewYork area that a 5000 to 10000 seat venue wouldn’t be a real hard sell
How’s the weather in the chilly Northeast? And just remember I don’t get the beautiful ambiance of snow for Christmas’ ¦.no sleds on my roof.

Tess, it’s currently 28 degrees in NYC and we are braced for a snow storm @ 12 inches or more.

A venue of @ 5,000 seats or more does not seem out of the question to me given how many fans have relatively easy access to the metro NYC area. A venue of @ 2,000 IMO would be too small to accommodate the collective fans of all three.

Ryan Rock My Town Sweepstakes is described here:
http://static.eventful.com/store/competitions/ryanrockmytown2009/ryanrockmytown2009_rules.pdf

The following is an excerpt:
A random drawing will be conducted’ ¦on or about January 8, 2010 from among all eligible entries received during the Promotion Period who reside in a zip code within fifty (50) miles of the Town’ ¦A minimum of Three (300) Grand Prizes: A set of two (2) tickets to a concert February 13, 2010 featuring Kris Allen and Adam Lambert [this is what it says, Allison in not mentioned] of American Idol ‘ ¦.(Approximate Retail Value $100.00 each)’ ¦.Each winner’ ¦ will be notified by telephone, mail and/or email on or about January 13, 2010 and will be given five days (5) to confirm receipt if notified by email’ ¦.Each winner’ ¦.will be required to complete and return an Affidavit of Eligibility/Liability Release’ ¦within fourteen (14) days of notification’ ¦.Each winner will be subject to a verification process, to include winner’s name, address, home phone number, business address, work/cell phone number, and social security number or taxpayer identification number.

ETA: I did my best to transcribe the excerpt, please follow the link above for full text.

I think we pretty much know how Kris set will be since he has perform so many times while Adam and Allison’s are little known which makes the waiting more exciting!

I wouldn’t count on Kris doing exactly the same thing he’s been doing, either. He’s been known to throw in some surprises! LOL

So, I still don’t completely understand the rules for who gets tix, and if it is only NYC peeps

To be eligible for the free tix, you had to have a zip code that was in a 75 mile radius of NYC.

Nothing has been mentioned yet about tickets being on sale but I would guess there will be as Stub Hub is splashed against the end of Adam’s congratulatory video.

Nothing has been mentioned yet about tickets being on sale but I would guess there will be as Stub Hub is splashed against the end of Adam’s congratulatory video.

Oh, good! As I said, I don’t mind buying tickets to this thing (heck, considering how much I spent all summer long on the tour). Well, we’ll see. For now, worst case scenario is I don’t get in, but can still watch more Adam vids from the show!

We have over a foot already in DC, and more still coming. I have NEVER had this much snow in my life, I think. I love it until I have to go out and drive in it (which hopefully won’t be for a few more days).

Hey, this Fairfax teacher here is planning to begin winter vacation right about now. I figure we will have enough snow to close school for days. Keep warm, Mary 102. And yes, I am very happy about New York winning the contest.

By the way, I agree with all of your posts on the topic, sidewalkstory. I also believe that it is all a business.

“Yeah, good point. I remember when the contest first came up, there was a lot of discussion about why Kradison always seemed to get grouped together, without Danny (e.g. not just this concert, but the Elle photo shoot and some other stuff). Kinda weird, imo. Though it may just be a matter of Danny being the last to get signed, and him signing way later than the other 3, and their albums being out at the same time, vs. his coming months later, etc.”

Actually, I think it likely has more to do with the fact that Danny didn’t sign with 19 Management. If he had, I’m sure even if he didn’t have an album out by the time the show happened, they’d have had him do a cameo of his single. This is a combined opportunity for (1) Ryan to further his empire and (2) 19Management to use the S8 peeps to bring attention to each other (i.e. to use Adam’s celebrity to bring attention to Kris’s and Allison’s music) and hopefully increase fan bases and over all sales.

Actually, I think it likely has more to do with the fact that Danny didn’t sign with 19 Management.

Ohh, is this true? I didn’t realize it. That would make a lot of sense, then. My less logical reason for it all had more to do with my feeling that Kradison was more “stylistically” similar (kinda, sorta), than Danny was. Him going country just makes the divide even more apparent. Kradison are clearly going for more of the HAC/Top 40 crowd, which Danny, unless he has crossover success a la Taylor or Carrie, isn’t.

Re the order of the concert performances, my suggestion (to prevent freakouts by fans of each performer) would be:

Erect a huge tent in the middle of Central Park
Set up the interior as a three-ring circus, with three separate circular stages
Each performer has their own stage, and they all perform at the same time
Fans of each receive complimentary blinders so that they are not offended by the sight of the other two singers

YMMV

Ryan Seacrest

That’s what this concert is about. That’s it. Two words: Ryan Seacrest.

This concert is only about Ryan Seacrest.

Ryan wants to be a mega TV producer. His generation’s Merv Griffin. He also likes his power radio gig. And being a player. This event is a coup for his radio show, enhancing his radio/music biz player rep and could even be a test for a diff kind of “Rock My Town reality” show.

Clearly the “Eventful” people threw in dough to try to promote their “vote and bring stars to your town” website. Maybe they’re hoping to get some kind of online reality show series going or something.

The only thing publicly unknown is when and how he got 19 to agree to this event during the Ryan Seacrest contract negotiations. And how many “events to be named later” the ironclad Idol contract included for whatever kind of “after the show” possibilities might occur for the performers. Who would happily do anything for Ryan that gets spins and interviews on his radio show.

Having the show in NYC is great PR enchancement for everyone. Media access helps all.

Adam will close the show. There will be some cute promo, face-saving aspect to that. “Adam lobbied for NYC, so it’s his town, he’s going last.” Or they flip a coin or something. Or, and this is dreaded, Ryan hopes to amp his publicity by “What will Adam do live closing the show” malarkey. Let’s hope by Feb that’s over.

“Together again…” is going to be the lead-in of every media coverage clip. There will be pre and post event pics of them. So their interacting on stage somehow – acoustically – or clowning- or doing some song not to be ruled out. Or some special Valentine’s seranade.

Whatever happens will be fine. Exposure and YouTube videos always help any performer. The ONLY people who will care, at all, about any “who’s on first” aspect of this concert are AI dead-enders. This will not affect any of the performers. Or their future, their performance at the concert or their record sales. It will, IMHO, unfortunately, burn a lot of pixels for no good reason.

Fans of each receive complimentary blinders so that they are not offended by the sight of the other two singers

LMAO! But what if we can still HEAR them

FifthHouseSun - I love your posts. They’re always like mini-essays – a lovely respite from my off-the-cuff, whatever crap comes out of my mind at the moment posts

Or some special Valentine’s seranade.

OMFG. Adam + Valentine’s Serenade = DYING!

‘Together again’ ¦’  is going to be the lead-in of every media coverage clip. There will be pre and post event pics of them. So they’re interacting on stage somehow ‘“ acoustically ‘“ or clowning- or doing some song not to be ruled out. Or some special Valentine’s seranade.

Ouch. I know you’re so totally right about everything. But I’m dreading seeing this promo. Ugh. I just hope there aren’t too many more of these contractual obligations for the S8 guys to perform for Ryan’s benefit.

http://www.19.co.uk/projects/

The link above is to 19, and listed are those peeps being represented by 19. And this is a very current list…so, I would gather that Jordin is still under the 19M umbrella and I do not not the “truth” about the statement that she is being represented by the father of the Jonas bros but someone may have a link to that.

As you can see the only idols still represented by 19 are Carrie, Daughtry, David Cook, Adam, Kris, Allison, and Jordin. So the pairing of these individuals for things like gigs and TV shows, etc. is through the handling of 19.

Adam is on top – right where he likes it

http://www.19.co.uk/projects/

The link above is to 19, and listed are those peeps being represented by 19. And this is a very current list’ ¦so, I would gather that Jordin is still under the 19M umbrella and I do not not the ‘truth’  about the statement that she is being represented by the father of the Jonas bros but someone may have a link to that.

As you can see the only idols still represented by 19 are Carrie, Daughtry, David Cook, Adam, Kris, Allison, and Jordin. So the pairing of these individuals for things like gigs and TV shows, etc. is through the handling of 19.

By the way, I agree with all of your posts on the topic, sidewalkstory. I also believe that it is all a business.

thank you dcglam. We all have our favorites, but the promoters/sponsors know where to put their dollars.

Did the Davids do a free concert last year? And if so, does anyone know how it worked?

And Fifthhousesun…… loved your entire post… but especially your last paragraph.

Whatever happens will be fine. Exposure and YouTube videos always help any performer. The ONLY people who will care, at all, about any ‘who’s on first’  aspect of this concert are AI dead-enders. This will not affect any of the performers. Or their future, their performance at the concert or their record sales. It will, IMHO, unfortunately, burn a lot of pixels for no good reason.

I also think this will be a HUGE opportunity for Allison, Kris and Adam to promote their own individual tours. They’ll be able to use footage, gain research, practice, etc.

And someone up thread mentioned only Sleezak and Jim C. will be doing in-depth coverage. I really disagree. I think other media outlets will do reviews and coverage… especially with Adam on the bill.

But if there is any publicity , every interview will include the question of “where’s Danny?” or “why was Danny excluded?”

Because unless Allison starts selling some albums people are going to start to wonder what she’s doing there.

congrats NYC!
Even though I’m a big Kris fan, I’m buying the show order of Allison, Kris and Adam. Adam is the one that gets the spot light and is the biggest cd seller, so that makes sense.
Kris and Adam should have the same set length though to be fait as this is only happening as a result of AI which Kris won.
Very direspectful for Kris to have the congrat clip only with Adam. Kris is getting scorned AGAIN.

But if there is any publicity , every interview will include the question of ‘where’s Danny?’  or ‘why was Danny excluded?’ 

who is gonna talk about someone who they don’t even know exists?

ertain1
12/19/2009 at 2:14 pm

But if there is any publicity , every interview will include the question of ‘where’s Danny?’  or ‘why was Danny excluded?’ 

LOL. No. Hardly anybody in the media remembers Danny.

Kris and Adam should have the same set length though to be fait as this is only happening as a result of AI which Kris won.

Am I the only one thinking that they’ll clearly have the same set length? All three? Why wouldn’t they?

Am I the only one thinking that they’ll clearly have the same set length? All three? Why wouldn’t they?

No, you’re not the only one. I’ve assumed the whole time that all three will have the same set lenghts. I don’t think that the order in which they perform should have any effect on that.

I really don’t think allison will get the same set length. I think the fans will prefer to have a longer Adam’s and Kris’s set

I hope they tie in the concert with maybe some appearances on the morning talk shows. It would be good PR for the concert and also for the idols new albums.

LOL. No. Hardly anybody in the media remembers Danny

See this is the mentality that comes back to bite you .. Allison is hardly storming up the charts. This Kradison thing is a figment of the AI fanatics who believe that they were the only contestants this year and as we can see by the charts that people outside of that group just aren’t that interested.

I do believe that even if they are not billing this as an AI concert that is exactly how it will be percieved to the regular media.

Btw who knows who will have sold the most albums by the date that the concert takes place, so the order may not be known until that date and maybe no one will care about any of them.

And I doubt the press ‘” will bother covering it. They might mention it in the paper or on the radio as an upcoming concert or something. But why do I get the feeling that Jim C. and Slezak will be the only media types that do any in-depth coverage?

IDK about that – since it’s a Ryan thing, he’ll be able to promote the hell out of it through his radio/tv empire. He’s not doing so badly for himself, I’d say

Kris and Adam should have the same set length though to be fait as this is only happening as a result of AI which Kris won.
Very direspectful for Kris to have the congrat clip only with Adam. Kris is getting scorned AGAIN.

No, Kris is being scorned by people who voted him the winner … why aren’t they buying his album? If his album was outselling Adam then he would be the one doing the promoting for this gig, plain and simple.

I wonder if Ryan’s recent tweet is giving us a hint at the performing order:

RyanSeacrest congrats NYC! I’m bringing u @adamlambert, @krisallen & @allisoniraheta – FREE! http://bit.ly/8HoW37

Too bad I’m not in the area, since I’d love to see 2 out of 3 of those! IMO, it will be a great sampler from all 3 albums, and a lot of fun for everyone there.

I wonder if Ryan’s recent tweet is giving us a hint at the performing order:

RyanSeacrest congrats NYC! I’m bringing u @adamlambert, @krisallen & @allisoniraheta ‘“ FREE! http://bit.ly/8HoW37

My guess on the order would be: Allison, Kris, Adam. Then close with a group number for fun.

ETA: I assume that’s what you mean by Ryan’s tweet suggesting the order. Though, tbh, I don’t think we can read too much from the tweets about the order. Though all the promo for it has had Adam first.

No, Kris is being scorned by people who voted him the winner ‘ ¦ why aren’t they buying his album? If his album was outselling Adam then he would be the one doing the promoting for this gig, plain and simple.

Don’t agree with you karend. The proper way to do this clip would have been to have ALL 3 congratulating the winning city

This is a Ryan Seacrest promoted concert where he has contracted performers all represented by the same management company: 19. IT IS NOT an American Idol Gig even though “American Idol” may be used as a descriptor for the Artist (they did participate in the show).

I would assume that Ryan will make sure that the publicity for the event will promote himself and his radio show. From what I have read and learned from people with a lot more knowledge than me, Ryan is setting himself up to be the next Dick Clark and will probably be setting up more of these type of gigs.

Considering he signed a new contract with 19 and AI the speculation maybe that the tie-in with this deal is a result of those contract negotiations….a tit for a tat.

So, again, the concert sets and the order and the time lengths will have no bearing on what went on during the Idol season. Ryan and his crew will make those decisions based on their knowledge of who or what will best fill the seats.

certain1, Nobody in teh media is going to asking about Danny. 1. Most don’t know he exists. 2. Of those that do, most think he came in fourth….just look at all the erroneous news articles that were published to that effect. The only way Danny’s name would be brought up is if his new album was released before the show and sold huge numbers. Since it doesn’t come out until March 2010, that’s not even a possibility.

so the order may not be known until that date and maybe no one will care about any of them.

I’m guessing that the order won’t be announced ahead of time, but is already set. Adam has not only outsold the other 2, but has far more media attention, and since this is a business venture, those are important selling points. It’s hard to follow a high energy act, so once the lid has been blown off the joint, it’s time to send everyone home. LOL. Adam even went last on the AMAs, in spite of all the big name performers present.

I do think it’s highly unlikely that no one will care about any of them by Feb. Adam has made all kinds of top 10 lists for the year, (not just fan voted), along with Barbara Walters top 10 of the year show, etc., so I don’t think that the media will have forgotten Adam in less than 2 months. And, I don’t think his fans are going to forget about him by then either.

Hopefully, Allison and Kris will have plenty attention for their albums by then, (Allison might not, sadly, though I love her album), and I doubt that their fans have such short attention spans. I won’t be at the concert, but will be watching for YT videos!

The proper way to do this clip would have been to have ALL 3 congratulating the winning city

I understand this sentiment but it isn’t how the real world rolls. And this is not to say that Ryan may have the other performers pop up tomorrow or the next day. Remember there were 16 performers (or so) at the AMAs and only a handful were ever in the publicity package.

Don’t agree with you karend. The proper way to do this clip would have been to have ALL 3 congratulating the winning city

With their schedules, it would be difficult to have all 3 together, and wouldn’t be worth it financially to fly them somewhere so all 3 could take part in a 20 second clip. (Adam’s part was even less than 20 seconds.)

What really matters is the performances that they each give, and we’ll all be looking forward to seeing that, whether in person or on YT.

good for NYC.that seems like the best place to have the concert…

No, Kris is being scorned by people who voted him the winner ‘ ¦ why aren’t they buying his album? If his album was outselling Adam then he would be the one doing the promoting for this gig, plain and simple.

I’m not so sure. Ryan is more associated with radio than with owning record stores (does he have any relationship to record stores at all?). If we are going by success in fields related to Ryan, Kris is the clear winner for airplay and single sales. Plain and simple.

So, it’s not necessarily based on success. Maybe it’s just because Adam was hanging around LA while Kris was unavailable because he was doing concerts in other cities.

I wonder if Ryan’s recent tweet is giving us a hint at the performing order:

RyanSeacrest congrats NYC! I’m bringing u @adamlambert, @krisallen & @allisoniraheta ‘“ FREE! http://bit.ly/8HoW37

I think his tweet just coincides with the billing order on the banner, not necessarily the performing order. I, too, feel that Adam will close the show with possibly a group number following.

My guess on the order would be: Allison, Kris, Adam.

Yes, that is what I meant about the tweet possibly showing the order. I realize I wasn’t very clear. Sorry about that.

yes Tess but here there are not 16 performers…. ONLY 3 …… woudn’t it be easy to all include them in the congrats clip?

Don’t agree with you karend. The proper way to do this clip would have been to have ALL 3 congratulating the winning city

Proper way for what? To honor Kris? It’s a business. They are going to do whatever gets the most attention for their sponsors. That is not Kris.

Mtlfan
12/19/2009 at 2:50 pm

yes Tess but here there are not 16 performers’ ¦. ONLY 3 ‘ ¦’ ¦ woudn’t it be easy to all include them in the congrats clip?

Well, after Kris campaigned for LR, wouldn’t it look weird having him congratulate NYC on their win?

I really don’t think allison will get the same set length. I think the fans will prefer to have a longer Adam’s and Kris’s set

Not fans of Allison’s. Yes, we do exist. LOL

Another guess about why only Adam was featured in the clip above, maybe it was a logistical thing too – all three of them have been traveling a lot lately, Ryan is in LA, mostly – and Adam may have been the only one available at whatever particular moment to film the thing. I don’t recall that Kris has been in LA a lot recently, what with all the jingle balls. IDK – just throwing it out there. And to have Allison and Adam in the vid, but no Kris, would be even weirder, imo.

yes Tess but here there are not 16 performers’ ¦. ONLY 3 ‘ ¦’ ¦ woudn’t it be easy to all include them in the congrats clip?

My guess is that if Little Rock had won, then we would have seen a pretaped clip by Kris (and it wouldn’t have included Adam and Allison).

The clip looks like it was recorded at an earlier date anyway. They could have had Adam pre-record a clip for a NYC win, Kris pre-record a clip for LR, and Allison pre-record a clip for LA, the top three cities in contention.

Ryan and whoever all is involved in producing/promoting this concert need to try and make the promotion is even as possible. Because this is a Kradison concert — it’s not a solo concert for any of the 3. And they risk alienating fans of the other 2 if the promotion is too heavily centered one just one of the 3. That’s not smart business. They also need to make sure the sets are similar in length — because, again, this is not a solo show with 2 opening acts.

I don’t care about Adam being the only one in the congrats video. First of all, it’s entirely possible that Kris taped a similar video that would’ve gone out if Little Rock had won, with Allison doing the same thing if a 3rd city (L.A. for instance) had won. Also, we don’t know when this video was taped — if it was in the last week or so, Kris hasn’t been in L.A. to be available to film it — were they going to track him down on the East Coast somewhere and have him tape this in between JingleBall appearances? Allison has been out of town a lot, too. I think Adam has been back in L.A. since the Tampa JB, so maybe he would simply have been the most accessible if they put this congrats thing together in the last couple of days.

Finally, I hope to see some Kradison/Kradam/Krallison/Adison promotion for this. I know everyone says the 3 need to separate themselves from AI and from being grouped together. And in general, that is very true. But in this case it actually makes sense to have group interviews to promote this one-off concert. They can still do solo interviews, but I hope that Slezak and/or Jim C. will be able to interview them all at once. If for no other reason than it is always fun to see the interaction between the 3 of them.

If the set list is going by current success it will be Allison, Adam, and Kris closes the show.

Proper way for what? To honor Kris? It’s a business. They are going to do whatever gets the most attention for their sponsors. That is not Kris.

sidewalkstory, with your line of reasoning , i think they should just have gone with only an Adam concert

yes Tess but here there are not 16 performers’ ¦. ONLY 3 ‘ ¦’ ¦ woudn’t it be easy to all include them in the congrats clip?

It seems to have been done at the same time as they did the other clip telling people they still had time to vote, Adam is wearing the same outfit, same hair. So seems to be they each just took one city in the top three and did a congrats bit. Kris took Little Rock, which would make sense, Allison did LA and Adam did NY. Now could they have had all three say congrats to NY at once? Sure. But they probably just chose one person for each city. The way the first video was filmed was also them separately as well. No shots of them together in any part of it. Just Adam’s laugh at one part of what Allison was saying at the end, but no shots of any of them together. So doesn’t seem odd to me they continued with their style choice.

Anyhew, I’m looking forward to the concert, in whatever order they are shown for whatever reason. I do think Allison will go first, in any event, Kris or Adam going after that and the other? I don’t really think it matters except to over invested Idol fans. In any event I think the show will rock as it seems to me that all three bands are pretty good with their respective Idol fronters and by February they should all have gotten a chance to practice and get tight enough to put on a good show. Because really, the good show it’s what’s important to me. If I can’t get away from work enough to go to the show (and it’s looking like I won’t be able to right now) than I want lots and lots of YouTubes to make up for it. And that’s my bottomline as always, what do I get out of it? The order of them when they play? won’t impact my YouTubes, so whatevahs.

I would bet that in order to avoid controversy they will end this concert with all 3 of them doing some song or songs together ‘” a mini ‘Don’t Stop Believing’  as it were.

What controversy?? They’re outside the AI box or AI buble now. They have their own career. So after couple of years if a promoter wants to reunite them in a concert again.. the order should still be like the AI order??? give me a break. We need to start thinking outside the AI buble. Promoter thinks business… who’s the one who can draw more ticket buyers

Ohh.. please no more singing together.. Ryan.. their voice just don’t go together very well… well.. maybe Adam & Allison… but Allison needs to show off her music… so no.. let them do their own thing. This is why I don’t like them in one concert… though I vote for NY. I just couldn’t let Adam and Allison to go to LR… ..

I know that on the fan boards, this one included, people from all over the country were using fake addresses/zip codes to vote. 10021 seemed a particularly popular zip code being floated on the boards.

Chances are they will be mailing the tickets out so that cheaters will still lose out in the end. There’s plenty of time for the tickets to be mailed. All of the ticket outlets that I have used mail out the tickets unless it’s too close to show time.

If they get tickets back in the mail, they will probably just go down the list.

If the set list is going by current success it will be Allison, Adam, and Kris closes the show.

Would you mind defining current success, please?

Well, after Kris campaigned for LR, wouldn’t it look weird having him congratulate NYC on their win?

jms, i would hardly call ‘campaigning one twit (and he twitted before to have people voting for the city of their choice) and one word in favor of Little Rock on a LR tv station when he was asked especially on this. LR was pushing a lot to have this concert and L.A was so low in their voting for Adam and Allison that I can understand that the city didn’t matter to them. Kris couldn’t ignore the efforts of his hometown, it would have appeared to be rude

Because this is a Kradison concert ‘” it’s not a solo concert for any of the 3. And they risk alienating fans of the other 2 if the promotion is too heavily centered one just one of the 3. That’s not smart business.

I really think the alienating is already set in stone. No one is going to change their minds.

I think Kradison themselves would probably like to keep the set order from the AI tour, just to avoid drama, but it won’t be that easy if the organizer wills something different.

And I doubt the press ‘” will bother covering it. They might mention it in the paper or on the radio as an upcoming concert or something.

If the venue is small and free tickets for all seats are on a first-come-first-served basis in NYC, the press will talk about it at length. They will probably refer to it as the “Battle of Manhattan.”

I’m so excited that NYC won! I think there will be media focus on this concert to some extent. First, Ryan Seacreast is involved and he has an affiliation with Z100 in NYC. Second, NYC loves American IDOL, and is also a music/entertainment mecca, with many late night/ morning shows taped there.

I see lots of arguing about the set order already – WOW. Maybe they’ll have something like at the AMA’s with more than one set and alternate – how about that for an option? I know, highly unlikely, but possible!

For those who think Allison should have a shorter set due to the lack of sales of her album, I think she will show us exactly why we should be buying it. Her album received great reviews and needs some exposure, which she will hopefully get with this concert.

I really hope the date is one where I can attend. I also hope we don’t see fanwarring at the event!

Angela

Current success can have several definitions, can’t it. If you go off sales of singles and amount of radio airplay, then it would be Kris >> Adam >> Allison

If you go off album sales and media attention, then it would be Adam >> Kris >> Allison

All depends on how you want to spin it, I guess.

But anyway, I just hope that all 3 kill it at this concert. I agree with Truthiness that all 3 have really strong bands. And by February they should be even stronger working together than they are now — and from what I’ve seen, they are already all very good performing live with their new bandmates. So this concert should be a lot of fun.

saga
12/19/2009 at 3:14 pm

I really think the alienating is already set in stone. No one is going to change their minds.

So true.

I think Kradison themselves would probably like to keep the set order from the AI tour, just to avoid drama, but it won’t be that easy if the organizer wills something different.

Oh, I don’t know. I suspect that this event is not nearly so high on Adam, Kris and Allison’s list of things to even think about as it is for us. Most likely, it’s just another day of work for them and they’re pretty “whatever” about it.

If the set list is going by current success it will be Allison, Adam, and Kris closes the show.

But the concert’s still on Feb., that order of the success will change!

Kirsten

I’m not so sure. Ryan is more associated with radio than with owning record stores (does he have any relationship to record stores at all?). If we are going by success in fields related to Ryan, Kris is the clear winner for airplay and single sales. Plain and simple.

Ah, but Ryan’s empire also includes television. I’d guess he’s better known for his TV work than his radio work.

And when it comes to that particular field related to Ryan, Adam is the “clear winner” for high profile TV appearances.

I understand that Kris, Adam and Allison are essentially slaves to 19, and had no say in this concert. But I see this event as three steps back and no steps forward for them (and unless Ryan’s newest field is as an Alan Freed wannabe, I don’t see how his career is going to be much furthered by this event either).

Chances are they will be mailing the tickets out so that cheaters will still lose out in the end. There’s plenty of time for the tickets to be mailed.

Did anyone really READ and UNDERSTAND how this “in Demand” concert works. You didn’t need to LIVE in a town to vote for it. But those receiving free tickets have to live within a certain radius of the town. So anyone could vote for anywhere. You were required to put in a legitimate email account…they emailed you…and upon answering back your vote was counted and if you lived within the radius allotment your name was probably put “in the hat” for the “prize” drawing.

So NO CHEATING by anyone. And limited votes since an email address was required. I think there were only about 57,000 votes total. New York won with about 8000 votes total and about 1800 votes over LR.

And all of these numbers are off the top of my head ’cause I don’t feel like checking at the site. This is what I remember from yesterday.

Also, I will bet you this is going to be at a smaller venue ‘” not somewhere like MSG. And I doubt the press ‘” will bother covering it. They might mention it in the paper or on the radio as an upcoming concert or something. But why do I get the feeling that Jim C. and Slezak will be the only media types that do any in-depth coverage?

I think Adam will have the last set, just based on the fact that the organizor seems to view him as the main draw.

He IS the main draw. Like him or not, why can’t people realize that?

Adam is the main draw and he is going to be the main draw for media too. The last Jingle Ball in Tampa, Adam didn’t even perform but they used him to promote their event. People come just to see him and even stand in line for two hours or more just to meet him and take picture with him. Music critic from St. Pete Times complaining because his editor sent him to the event just because Adam was going to be at the even and he dissapointed because Adam didn’t perform.

NY City?? yeah.. there’ll be a lot more more media than just Slezak & Jim C and this should be a good promotion for each of them…

And when it comes to that particular field related to Ryan, Adam is the ‘clear winner’  for high profile TV appearances.

I think we need a polynomial equation to figure out who goes last:

Last= A*(spins) + B*(spammed polls) + C*(single sales) + D*(television appearances) + E*(magazine covers) – F*(tabloid scandals) + G*(album sales) + H*(journalist stalkers) + I*(critic ratings) + J*(mentions on ET) + K*(celebrity feuds) + L*(mentions in late night show skits) + M*(Jingle Balls)

Do I have all the factors? Anybody know what the multipliers are? LOL.

So many measures of success. It’s good that they are all doing well in some of them. Let’s hope it continues.

I understand that Kris, Adam and Allison are essentially slaves to 19, and had no say in this concert. But I see this event as three steps back and no steps forward for them (and unless Ryan’s newest field is as an Alan Freed wannabe, I don’t see how his career is going to be much furthered by this event either)

Totally agree. I don’t see any winners here. What maroon thought up this idea? There is no set order that is going to make people happy and the Clay/Kelly concert fanwar stories will probably pale in comparison (seriously, if half the crap that is rumoured to have happened actually happened, Yeesh! Dumping food on other people’s seats to force them to stand for “your Idol’s” set. Stuff like that).

This year is unreal.

J9BT
12/19/2009 at 3:16 pm

I really hope the date is one where I can attend. I also hope we don’t see fanwarring at the event!

I, too, hope for the absence of fanwars! It’s not AI, so the promoters can set the order however they’d like. HONESTLY, it’s an opportunity to see your favorite in concert (whoever that may be) plus the other two, (who are no slouches) as well! Why turn this into a bad thing? Kris is my favorite, but if I went to the concert, I would not care less what order he went in! (boohoo) It doesn’t matter who gets more airplay or sells more albums, or whose fans are the “bestest”! It sometimes feels as if we are trying to make this all about ourselves being right, than enjoying music. Knowing that Adam has sold more albums than Kris doesn’t mean that I don’t love Kris’ album, and knowing that LLWD has had more airplay than FYE won’t cause Adam’s fans to all of a sudden dislike his single. This concert is a cool opportunity to see the three standouts of S8, why can’t we all just get along?? lol!

Kirsten, you left off Tweet Beat appearances.

Wake me when it’s over.

Yeesh! Dumping food on other people’s seats to force them to stand for ‘your Idol’s’  set. Stuff like that).

OK, that has to be made up. Do you know how expensive nachos are at these events?

I suspect Adam will be the headliner because technically he was given New York as a home city, where Allison had Los Angeles and Kris had Little Rock.

If the concert was in LR, Kris would have been the headliner. If the concert was in Los Angeles, Adam would have been the headliner, and with the concert in New York, Adam will be the headliner. I think Adam’s popularity is the reason they are doing this concert. I don’t recall a concert like this for the Davids and Jason (cause you know Seyesha would have been left out in the cold). I also wonder how many KISS FM employees had to vote for NY to get that city to win?

I agree, which is exactly why I think they will keep the tour order of Allison, Adam and Kris last. To put Adam last would only fan the flames of the whole ‘true winner’  of S8 debate and I don’t think Adam wants to go there. The more I think about it, the more I think Adam will push to keep the tour order as that will make the Adam vs. Kris thing more of a non-issue. These guys are friends. They just want to enjoy themselves performing for the fans. It’s only one event and their own tours will be coming up soon enough. No biggie.

IDK.. Kris performed on SYTYCD top 8 and Adam performed on SYTYCD Finale.. Did Nigel care of the fan war because he didn’t ask Kris to sing on the SYTYCD Finale, coz he’s the winner??? Nigel used to be the Exec Producer for AI. And…. and Simon Fuller, the head of 19, is the co-creator SYTYCD (SYTYCD is a 19E product just like AI). Do they care to honor the AI order?? NOPE they don’t… only fans who cares.. business people and media, they don’t care…. except for Slezak & Jim C… Slezak would care more of Allison.. that’s his girl.. as much as he likes Kris.. He loves Allison more

I think Adam’s popularity is the reason they are doing this concert.

Yes, yes, yes! I have thought this all along. Back to the business thing…..

I would bet that in order to avoid controversy they will end this concert with all 3 of them doing some song or songs together ‘” a mini ‘Don’t Stop Believing’  as it were.I would bet that in order to avoid controversy they will end this concert with all 3 of them doing some song or songs together ‘” a mini ‘Don’t Stop Believing’  as it were.

That’s certainly possible, but IMO from the point of view of Kris, Allison, and Adam, what this concert is about in part is kind of a dress rehearsal for their tours. (Don’t know if Allison will tour, but both Kris and Adam will be touring.) They have individual sounds, and their own bands now, and I would guess that they’ll have at least one stage set from their tour set up for their own performances.

While I doubt that Adam will do his AMA FYE performance, I think his performance will push boundaries more than WWFM, and it might be difficult to do a DSB type performance after that. Gotta get rid of the whips and men on leashes, and do a squeaky clean wholesome performance to close out the show? That would look out of place and be kind of jarring. But, maybe Kris and Allison could sub for the men on leashes, and they could do a group kiss at the end. LOL Just kidding, of course.

Kirsten:

Don’t forget that in is a big world out there.

You are Canadian aren’t you?

Re the order of the concert performances, my suggestion (to prevent freakouts by fans of each performer) would be:

Erect a huge tent in the middle of Central Park
Set up the interior as a three-ring circus, with three separate circular stages
Each performer has their own stage, and they all perform at the same time
Fans of each receive complimentary blinders so that they are not offended by the sight of the other two singers

YMMV

Ha… good one… If I go.. I would definitely be in Adam’s side of tent.. LOL

The ONLY people who will care, at all, about any ‘who’s on first’  aspect of this concert are AI dead-enders. This will not affect any of the performers. Or their future, their performance at the concert or their record sales.

FHS,
Sadly, this is where I disagree. If Adam does close out the show (which looks like the case) and there is media coverage, Kris will once again have to endure obvious questions in regards to this. Of course he will handle this with the grace he has handled all media over these last several months.

But, maybe Kris and Allison could sub for the men on leashes, and they could do a group kiss at the end. LOL Just kidding, of course.

LMAO here!

But, food on chairs?! come on, that can’t be true, are we back in elementary school or something? On the other hand, yeah, something…

thanks to whoever posted that link to the sexy jew thing, love that! jewish Elvis indeed!

I think Adam’s popularity is the reason they are doing this concert.

and to use adam’s popularity to promote kris and allison

If we are going by success in fields related to Ryan, Kris is the clear winner for airplay and single sales. Plain and simple

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what about album sales??? album sales don’t matter anymore??? LOL

Sadly, this is where I disagree. If Adam does close out the show (which looks like the case) and there is media coverage, Kris will once again have to endure obvious questions in regards to this. Of course he will handle this with the grace he has handled all media over these last several months.

well, it is the media that choose the most interesting topics, it’s not up to AI I really like Kris and I am positive, he will be successful, it’s just Adam is so much more fascinating and glittery and …. whatever

and to use adam’s popularity to promote kris and allison

See this is why I don’t understand this whole thing. I wouldn’t buy a Kris or Allison album based on Adam, I bought a Kris and Allison album based on who they are.

Ok, the order is going to be Allison, Kris, then Adam closing. As much as I love Kris, I realize Adam is the bigger draw here. Kris’ fans suck because they aren’t buying his album (which is very good, btw).

As far as Adam doing the congrats video, as has been said to death, if LR had won (and praise god they didn’t), he would have done it. This is all so logical all the fighting is ridiculous. They are on their own now, show ALL of them some love. Just because you love Adam doesn’t mean, oh, I must diss Kris at every freakin opportunity. Follow Adam’s example and actually be a decent person who gives everyone a chance.

Kanadie, are you from ….. Canada?

and to use adam’s popularity to promote kris and allison

See this is why I don’t understand this whole thing. I wouldn’t buy a Kris or Allison album based on Adam, I bought a Kris and Allison album based on who they are.

I think what sidewalkstory means is that it will expose Kris and Allison’s music to some Adam fans who perhaps never gave those albums a listen. I really do think Allison’s album will do well if more people hear it. So I think the concert overall is a good thing.

ETA-I think Kris’s album is also solid. I didn’t mean Allison’s album was better than Kris’s but that far fewer people have heard Allison’s music.

12/19/2009 at 4:35 pm

FHS: The ONLY people who will care, at all, about any ‘who’s on first’  aspect of this concert are AI dead-enders. This will not affect any of the performers. Or their future, their performance at the concert or their record sales.

cookcricket: FHS, Sadly, this is where I disagree. If Adam does close out the show (which looks like the case) and there is media coverage, Kris will once again have to endure obvious questions in regards to this. Of course he will handle this with the grace he has handled all media over these last several months.

Actually, this is exactly why I wished they never put this concert together in the first place. There is no happy way to do this and keep everyone happy.

But I do not think that most people will really care about the performance order. And, if it is just based on performance style and making the best concert possible, the order will be Kris, Allison then Adam. Since Danny isn’t included in this contest, it is not an Idol Season 8 concert.

Regarding Kris handling any questions about the concert performance order, I do not recall any questions from the press about the GMA Summer Concert performance order — Kris, Adam, Cook. Why would there be questions about the performance order for this concert? Frankly, I think the best thing for Kris is to perform before Adam anyway. Because it he closes the show, that will be a news story — and probably not a good one for Kris.

If we are going by success, Kris is the winner for airplay and single sales. Plain and simple.

So, selling singles is more profitable than selling albums. I learn so much on this blog.

girlygirl
12/19/2009 at 3:20 pm
Angela

Current success can have several definitions, can’t it. If you go off sales of singles and amount of radio airplay, then it would be Kris >> Adam >> Allison

If you go off album sales and media attention, then it would be Adam >> Kris >> Allison

Oh, I agree with you, and with many of your other posts, I was responding to a different poster. I will say that Adam is, imho, the most successful of the AI8, but that just me. I realize people have favorits, that is a part of AI experience, but just like you I hope for a great concert (no food on the chairs,plz!)and for Adam, Kris and Alison to get some good promotion and have fun.
btw, I just read somewhere that only free tickets will be distributed, none sold, so it is probably going to be a small venue with only a few hundred fans getting tickets, so boo for that…

well, it is the media that choose the most interesting topics, it’s not up to AI I really like Kris and I am positive, he will be successful, it’s just Adam is so much more fascinating and glittery and ‘ ¦. whatever

I guess if sensationalism is considered most interesting…which seems to be the case. Otherwise why would someone like Tiger Woods be such a hot topic right now.

ETA: I just want to clarify that I wish Adam success and believe he is an extremely nice person.

Kris is going to open the show, Allison will go second, Adam will close….if the concert was in LR, i think they would advertise Kris as the headliner, but anywhere else in the country it was gonna be adam….that is just the way it is — you can argue about who is more “successful” as of today’s date a million ways to sunday (but who knows if those numbers will have changed by February – maybe kris will catch up to adam in album sales, maybe adam will catch up to kris in single sales etc.) but the media and the public view adam as the “star”….Kris will open, get huge cheers etc….allison will be smushed in the middle……this is not a “countdown” like the Idol tour….

Why wouldn’t there be threads and information in the headlines for Adam, Kris and Allison in the upcoming months? It seems as if they will all be starting their tours in 2 or 3 months. Why wouldn’t the same amount of information be posted about them as David Cook’s tour?

Where did I say there wouldn’t be?

btw, I just read somewhere that only free tickets will be distributed, none sold, so it is probably going to be a small venue with only a few hundred fans getting tickets, so boo for that’ ¦

This concert appears to be moving into jingleball territory. Probably just a couple of thousand tickets available and probably a five song set each. Probably no t-shirts or other promo stuff. Maybe they can have Danny host?

This concert appears to be moving into jingleball territory. Probably just a couple of thousand tickets available and probably a five song set each. Probably no t-shirts or other promo stuff. Maybe they can have Danny host?

Oh hai – maybe Matt Giraud could host….or not

Kanadie, are you from ‘ ¦.. Canada?

No but I was married and divorced TWICE to a french Canadian from Montreal.

I guess if sensationalism is considered most interesting’ ¦which seems to be the case. Otherwise why would someone like Tiger Woods be such a hot topic right now.

Tiger wouldn’t be a hot topic if he wasn’t famous to begin with. Lots of men dilly-dally on their wives.

That is a circular argument. Are you famous because you are a hot topic or are you a hot top because you are famous.

If we are going by success in fields related to Ryan, Kris is the clear winner for airplay and single sales. Plain and simple

LLWD went for adds in september while WDWFM went for adds after the AMA’s in Nov /Dec. so how are we comparing the 2. a better comparison wld be to measure the sales / airplay from a certain point. like what is kris sales after 3mths and Adam’s after the same 3 mths. only then will i agree with the above statement.

Kanadie Bonttell, oh, I see
I just asked, because I used to live in Canada (Toronto) and I looooved the tolerance and tranquility there

so, I would gather that Jordin is still under the 19M umbrella and I do not not the ‘truth’  about the statement that she is being represented by the father of the Jonas bros but someone may have a link to that.

JORDIN IS NOT REPRESENTED BY 19M FACT.

Jordin Sparks is represented by the JoBros Dad, unless something happened between the time I read it in Billboard magazine earlier this year and now.

Maybe they can have Danny host?

Ok, you score, crying here, this is the funniest yet today!!

JORDIN IS NOT REPRESENTED BY 19M FACT.

Jordin Sparks is represented by the JoBros Dad, unless something happened between the time I read it in Billboard magazine earlier this year and now.

I only asked because she is still listed in the present updated sight of 19 as being in their stable. I don’t have a clue, otherwise, just what I have read on this site. That is why I was confused and asked for some tangible link to clear it up.

Maybe they can have Danny host?

lmao

Tiger wouldn’t be a hot topic if he wasn’t famous to begin with. Lots of men dilly-dally on their wives.

Maybe so, but he wouldn’t be in the news right now to this extent if it wasn’t due to the sensationalism surrounding him.

Honestly, you don’t think Adam would be getting the attention he gets from the media only due to his voice do you?

JORDIN IS NOT REPRESENTED BY 19M FACT.

As it says in her profile, Jordin only records for 19. Unlike Kris & Allison whose profile states that they are managed by and records for 19 Entertainment. Adam’s profile does not specifically mention management.

This is really off-topic, but I want to stop the spread of misinformation.

Billboard article dated 06/20/09

Choosing “Battlefield” as the first single was a bold decision, since the song finds Sparks straying from her cheery demeanor and singing assertively about the dark side of love. Her new manager says it fit with their strategy to present Sparks in a new light.

“Jordin started out as the youngest ‘American Idol’ winner and had all the blessings that come with that,” says Kevin Jonas, who’s also the manager (and father) of the Jonas Brothers and handles Sparks with his partner Phil McIntyre. “But now it’s important for Jordin to tell everyone, ‘I am a strong woman and I have something to say.’”

Actually, this is exactly why I wished they never put this concert together in the first place. There is no happy way to do this and keep everyone happy

Yeah, I agree. The concert is a bad idea and the way it was handled just sucks. (i.e. Ryan Seacreast begging people in NYC to vote). I think it would be hilarious if the fans rebel against another dose of Kradison and no one shows up.

thanks!

You can’t for one second believe that Kris’ fans (or Cook’s or whoever) wouldn’t love for him to have the same amount of media attention?

Honestly, you don’t think Adam would be getting the attention he gets from the media only due to his voice do you?

I don’t know where you want to go with this… To me it’s simple, you either enjoy Adams music and singing or you don’t. Nothing wrong in either.

If Adam or Kris fans think this is a bad idea, save your money for their individual tours. I bet by January, they’ll be posting the dates. At least that’s how its been done in the past.

Who knows how much anyone will care about this concert in February.
Lots of water under the bridge for everyone’s career until then.

I still don’t understand how this concert is a bad thing. I would love to see an Adam, Kris and Allison concert…..and I bet they are loving the idea, too.(they all three seem to have great chemistry). I just see this as a win win situation.

Is this a FREE concert, as Ryan tweeted, or not?

6. PRIZE(S): A MINIMUM OF THREE HUNDRED (300) GRAND PRIZES; A set of two (2) tickets to a concert on
February 13, 2010 featuring Kris Allen and Adam Lambert of American Idol (seating determined by Sponsor)
(Approximate Retail Value: $100.00 each).

If the “grand prize” tickets have a $100 retail value, it stands to reason that the remaining tickets are going to sell at that price. No?

I am also hearing it’s a free concert. The sadao guy has been tweeting again, but he is not very reliable.

If the ‘grand prize’  tickets have a $100 retail value, it stands to reason that the remaining tickets are going to sell at that price. No?

If the retail value for two tickets is $100 is for two tickets,, yes, you are right, it doesn’t sound free but…are are they giving away 600 tickets (300 pairs)? Is it “everyone’s a winner” kind of thing?

This year is unreal.

Yeah. No kidding.

This is the craziest conversation ever to me. These guys are doing this concert as a favor to one of the biggest syndicated shows on pop. That’s the real purpose IMO. Seacrest uses his Idol connections to get some buzz for his radio show, and Kradison curries some favor with a pretty big outlet for their music. Everybody wins. The few hundred people who get the free tickets, and what they think of the performance order (!), is not even a bleep in anyone involved’s ear. I can’t imagine anyone caring. Really. People will go to their free concert and have a good time, the show looks good, Kradison gets an in. The only people who would even remotely care are OTT idol fans, and they already purchased their CDs.

I mean, its ONE night. ONE show. You cannot possibly believe anyone’s career hangs in the balance here? Non issue, IMO.

Too bad we don’t have something *real* to argue about like Christmas #1, then Paul McCartney could weigh in.

Everybody wins. The few hundred people who get the free tickets, and what they think of the performance order (!), is not even a bleep in anyone involved’s ear.

From your post to the media’s ear. That’s truly my only concern. If they leave alone the order of the performance regardless of what it is, I’ll be happy.

cookcricket~

Okay, ummm’ ¦..
Please elaborate. Where is he getting this attention from?

Thank you…….

From your post to the media’s ear. That’s truly my only concern. If they leave alone the order of the performance regardless of what it is, I’ll be happy.

But what if “the media” does say something? And? Let’s say Adam goes last… would that be the first time some “real winner” ink has been spilled? Would that be the first time that concept is introduced? Or if Kris goes last… the worst that could happen is that he gets some of the same kind of press he got on the tour. Again, would that be a new thing? No. That’s even assuming the event gets major coverage. That is far from a guarantee. Ryan Seacrest might say something snarky on air? Like he’s never done that before.

All that happens is hurt feelings fly around the internet. Again, these people have already purchased their records. The rest of the world will buy based on whether they like the songs involved.

Why don’t peeps stop sweating the order and just enjoy the fact that it’s a fun show and seems like the lucky fans will see it for free.
By February, Kris and Adam should be on their own tours. And who knows where their careers will be by then. Maybe Kris or Adam will be sitting on a huge Top 40 hit or not.

Yeah, seems like a fun show, some lucky people are going to see it for free. All three seems like friends and they could all put on good shows. Personally I’m just jellus of people around that area who can just go to the show, and not have to worry about taking off work for a few days; rearranging work projects; getting airline tickets for across the country; making accomdation arrangements. To me that’s the only downer for this concert. Not the order these guys are in.

But I don’t see this as being some giant step back in their careers, either. They’ll go to NY, probably before their respective tours start, do a show with two of their friends, maybe get some press from outside the Idol bubble, maybe not, go about their respective careers. I don’t think this will hurt them at all. Not have any real effect on them? much more probable, but actually be a negative? Not really seeing it.

saga and dcglam I was just following up from some other posts earlier. you can go back and read if you wish.

ETA: In other words I’m not trying to start or go anywhere with this, just stating an opinion, which I firmly believe.

But what if ‘the media’  does say something? And? Let’s say Adam goes last’ ¦ would that be the first time some ‘real winner’  ink has been spilled? Would that be the first time that concept is introduced?

Eh, you just took the spit out my fire! LOL! In addition, I was just contemplating over the fact that this type of thing does happen every year regardless of who the winner is. The only difference this year is that it’s been given a chance to be prolonged. Hopefully it won’t be covered much…

On the Jewish/non-Jewish thing – pretty much all groups accept that if the mother is Jewish, the child is Jewish. Since Leila is Jewish, so are Adam and Neil. Reform Judaism holds that it can be from either parent, but the child must be raised as Jewish, as Adam and Neil were.

A woman who converts is Jewish by the standards of the branch doing the conversion, so her children would be Jewish by those standards.

And whether Adam had a bar mitzvah celebration or not is completely irrelevant to his Judaism. All bar mitzvah means, Judaically, is that a boy has reached the age of thirteen and one day by the Jewish calendar, and is now liable to perform all relevant commandments. This is a big deal, but it just *happens*, much like turning 18 in US society.

For the record, I never celebrated MY bat mitzvah, since my family didn’t hold by such things.

I’m not trying to start or go anywhere with this, just stating an opinion, which I firmly believe.

cookcricket~
That is fine. I do truly respect your opinion. I was just asking for a clarification of it. That is all — no big deal!

ETA: In other words I’m not trying to start or go anywhere with this, just stating an opinion, which I firmly believe

I just don’t know if you are saying that you are worried about the reception Kris will get in the media if he performs with Adam or if Adam is simply a famewhore? Or maybe you are saying both?

My comment stemmed from the fact that I wished it would just be so simple that you either like a guys music or you don’t, and that doesn’t have to do anything with their percieved personalities.

tripp_ncwy
12/19/2009 at 5:38 pm

JORDIN IS NOT REPRESENTED BY 19M FACT.

As it says in her profile, Jordin only records for 19. Unlike Kris & Allison whose profile states that they are managed by and records for 19 Entertainment. Adam’s profile does not specifically mention management.

From http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/vibe/vibe.cgi?rank2

Adam Lambert
19/Rca/Rmg

album: For Your Entertainment
track: Whataya Want From Me

Huge buzz on Idol runner up as LP debuts #3 nationally! New track seeing immediate love from Top 40 and Hot Adult. Early adopters: Z100, KIIS, KHKS, KZZP, KHTS, KDWB, WFLZ, WPLJ, KYKY, much more. Ellen 12/1, Barbara Walters’ ’10 Most Fascinating’  12/9, Conan 12/14, Kimmel 12/17. Huge AMA performance. ‘For Your Ent.’  added MTV, MTV Hits. Mgmt: Simon Fuller & Iain Pirie/19 Ent.

To save all these arguments about the order of performance- what if they mixed up the performances so there were a couple of songs from each at a time & then finish off with all three singing together .
The logistics might be harder but it would make for a more pleasurable concert & less likely that some fans would walk out during certain sections if they knew their performer was coming on again in a couple of songs!!

I think they could definitely finish with the 3 of them singing together though- that would be a fitting finale to the concert!!

Thank you, jpfan, for putting things in perspective.

NYC always gets things. This result sucks.

I hope this is the final time these three have to perform together or be associated with Seamonster.

I wish Kris got some respect, particularly as a songwriter.

I think Adam’s popularity is the reason they are doing this concert.

What evidence exists that Adam was popular enough to warrant a concert like this and the Davids/Jason were not? I don’t care how he’s the favorite pet of the media. He has sold anywhere near as many albums or as many singles as either of the Davids had by this point. He is simply not as popular with the public as they were, no matter how much the media tries to pretend otherwise.

I really don’t think allison will get the same set length. I think the fans will prefer to have a longer Adam’s and Kris’s set

Not me and certainly none of the Allison fans would prefer that and yes, we do exist even if we’re not as vocal.

Yes, Adam gets tons of press and he loves to be in front of any camera available. Good for him.

Just please stop putting down Kris and Allison

.Seriously, I just can’t get myself to come to any thread in which all three are discussed because it seems to be an opportunity to put down Allison. A lot of these posts are incredibly condescending.

Album sales, Single sales, radio play and I guess eventually the success of the tour (although that’s dependent on the other three) are all that matter.

ITA. I would add merch sales, endorsements, etc…. in short, find a way to bring in the money to the degree that you keep your record deal. That’s really what it boils down to. And there are a lot of ways to do it, so in a sense there is no way to declare a “winner” looking at chart positions and such. Some folks turn a profit on singles, endorsements and touring. Some folks do it with album sales and song licensing. Whatever gets the job done gets you to the next record.

I still say both these guys have a shot to make a profit in the long run, so they are both doing still in the game. And this concert should help keep them in the game. That’s all that matters.

We will know more about what’s up with Allison in January. Given the quality of her team at the label and in management, I wouldn’t be surprised if things turned around soon.

New York wins! The largest city in the United States, double the population of LA. Shocking.

This is a really cool triple-bill. I wonder if they’ll mention it on Idol?

I hope it really is free & doesn’t become a scalp-a-thon of who can pay the most money.

I am really tired of all the Kris vs. Adam comparisons.

Me too.

Yours was longest comparison I’ve read yet – hope it didn’t make anyone else too sleepy.

On the merchandising, I have seen several tweets commenting that there hasn’t been any merchandise for Kris at any of these Jingle Ball conccerts. Seems like Jive dropped the ball there, because not only were there a lot of Kris fans who would have bought a t-shirt or whatever, if his CD was available, maybe some of the people who were not at the concert primarily to see him would’ve bought the album after seeign him perform. Or some other merchandise. At the Orlando concert last night, there was merchandise for Jason Castro and the Fray. So why not for Kris?

Jive and RCA better not mess this up for these guys going forward.

At the end of the day, all contestants who come off Idol are generally measured according to that show. Sad, but true. This is why in some ways (and yes I know this may seem to contradict some of my previous posts, lol) I’m partially glad Kris has flown under the radar and seems to be promoted as a new artist as opposed to the AI Winner.

Even just this morning this was brought to home for me once more loud and clear. My kids were watching Sat. morning Disney shows and there was a commercial for the Disney Parade for Christmas. Amongst the guests appearances being announced, Kris was just announced as Kris Allen.

I have been trying to say this for a while. I really don’t think all the attention Adam is getting is bad for Kris. I think it’s the opposite, it allows him to quietly build up himself as an artist without pressure.

I really don’t think allison will get the same set length. I think the fans will prefer to have a longer Adam’s and Kris’s set

Not me and certainly none of the Allison fans would prefer that and yes, we do exist even if we’re not as vocal.

Well I have always thought, and hope, that all three sets will be of equal length. Now how long for each of them? No idea. Probably not terribly long sets, maybe 5-6 songs each. Maybe up to 7. Hmmmm. Now that intrigues me much more. And I wonder what each one will sing? Kris has the most concert experience thus far with all the Jingle balls, so guessing his set will be pretty easy. But for Adam and Allison, we have less ideas, beyond the singles, of course. Though with Allison, will FIBOU her single at that point? I think she’ll do Scars and Holiday, I would guess, Don’t Waste the Pretty, in additon to FIBOU, so beyond that? My vote would be D is for Dangerous if she just has 5 songs. Adam? WWFM of course, Music Again (sigh), a slower song, Broken Open would be my bet, Sure Fire Winners probably, Fever or PUU for his last one. Maybe he’ll be ready to sing FYE in public again at that point, but sans all the crap. Kris, again pretty good guesses with CSA, AWM in addition to LLWD of course, Is It Over and maybe The Truth/BWCU. I hope he isn’t singing Heartless by that point. I know it’s on the album, but c’mon. Shouldn’t he be promoting the new stuff by that time?

I guess I just assume that all three of them will be doing all stuff from their albums exclusively. Doing covers as part of a full set of a show, especially for encores, I get. Especially with only one album of material under your belt, but this probably won’t be long sets for any of them, so I would guess nothing, but new stuff for them. Hmmm.

I have been trying to say this for a while. I really don’t think all the attention Adam is getting is bad for Kris. I think it’s the opposite, it allows him to quietly build up himself as an artist without pressure.

Thanks saga, we just may be on the same page here, figuratively, though probably literally too (on the same page of mj’s). Ha! I crack myself up!

Allison has done her AOL session which is similar to a mini concert. That included FIBOU, Don’t waste the pretty, Holiday, Trouble is and the Spanish version of FIBOU. She was also part of the Jingle Jam for that Memphis radio station and she performed, Don’t waste the pretty, Holiday, FIBOU and not sure if anything else. She has performed Robot Love as well, in her LA Jingle Jam performance. She has performed Scars and Just like you with an acoustic arrangement so I would think she’s in pretty good shape when it comes to live performances and her band.

Awww Truthiness, finally a post worth reading and perhaps discussing. Thinking about what they each may sing actually makes me wish I could go!

maybe 5-6 songs each. Maybe up to 7

It’s a free concert. I doubt it will be longer than 2 hrs. I’d say they perform about 30 minutes each with two intermissions for set changes. To me that’s about 4 songs each.

sidewalkstory

It’s a free concert. I doubt it will be longer than 2 hrs. I’d say they perform about 30 minutes each with two intermissions for set changes. To me that’s about 4 songs each.

I agree that three 30 minute sets seems right. But that is probably 6 or 7 songs each. Adam is performing 10 songs on NYE and that is a 40 minute set.

Awww Truthiness, finally a post worth reading and perhaps discussing. Thinking about what they each may sing actually makes me wish I could go!

Claps. yay! Did you see through my plot to do introduce a new subject? I thought I was being all subt-tle and everything.

Well PRMari, based on your post, Don’t Waste The Pretty seems like a pretty fair bet, and FIBOU as well, again, if it’s still her single. I agree with jpfan it’s not catching on radio right now, so maybe Jive will be pushing a new single in the new year, and this concert is in February. So would she sing FIBOU even if it wasn’t the new single? and what would her new single be instead of that? Hmmmm. Well let’s assume she’s sing it by Feb. So in addition I think Holiday is a fair bet, she sang it at the Jimmy Kimmel show as well as the Memphis Jingle Ball. Plus the song rocks and Allison will want to rightly rock out, so perfect song. I do think that Scars will definitely be her downtemp song, and seems she has performed it least once before and it’s awesome. I don’t think she’s sing the Spanish version of FIBOU though. Well it doesn’t seem that she’s done D is for Dangerous live yet, so maybe more outside chance than Just Like You or Robot Love, but I’m still pulling for it as I like it better than JLU or RL.

So possible Allison set :
Holiday
FIBOU (assuming it’s still the single, maybe even if not)
Scars
Don’t Waste The Pretty (this might be the next single, yes?)
Robot Love (maybe Just Like You) and maybe if FIBOU isn’t the single and she isn’t singing it, maybe both of them.

So possible Allison set :
Holiday
FIBOU (assuming it’s still the single, maybe even if not)
Scars
Don’t Waste The Pretty (this might be the next single, yes?)
Robot Love (maybe Just Like You) and maybe if FIBOU isn’t the single and she isn’t singing it, maybe both of them.

I’d probably substitute Scars for Trouble is. That one has already been performed with the full band and it is fantastic. I would love it if she performed You don’t know me.

But how is the Idol vote any different then the Internet polls, like the Rolling Stone Readers poll? It just a bunch of ‘rabid fans voting in text messaging and phone polls’  isn’t it?

Not exactly. LOL. Idols have a rich history of winning any of those internet polls and radio station challenge thingys. Even when the win makes no sense. Idol fans sure know how to vote! That’s why those things are always suspect.

Small case in point: right now there’s one of those twitter polls asking for the most popular idol ever (or something like that), and who’s leading?… Adam Lambert and David Cook. By a mile. Like them both, but should they really beat Carrie Underwood, Kelly Clarkson and Daughtry in the real world? Of course not. But they both have passionate online fans, so there you go.

I’d probably substitute Scars for Trouble is. That one has already been performed with the full band and it is fantastic. I would love it if she performed You don’t know me.

I’d be happy with just about anything from that album, but I really want Trouble Is and D is for Dangerous myself.

What evidence exists that Adam was popular enough to warrant a concert like this and the Davids/Jason were not? I don’t care how he’s the favorite pet of the media. He has sold anywhere near as many albums or as many singles as either of the Davids had by this point. He is simply not as popular with the public as they were, no matter how much the media tries to pretend otherwise.

Name recognition… I think Adam has become a household name; he’s always mentioned in the internet, even on Late Night Shows, and lately the SNL. Media exposure = public awareness = increased popularity = increased interest. Popularity can not be measured by the number of CD/single sold alone because I can say Paris Hilton is more popular than the Davids & Jason combined.

Popularity can not be measured by the number of CD/single sold because I can say Paris Hilton is more popular than the Davids & Jason combined

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Paris Hilton actually attempted a recording career and flopped because she couldn’t translate her “popularity” into sales or radio play. Lots of people are famous but can’t sell their music. I think you’re confusing fame with popularity.

Popular artists (by definition) have hit songs, sell many singles/albums or they wouldn’t be called that. Fame just means people recognize your name – ala Balloon Boy.

I agree that three 30 minute sets seems right. But that is probably 6 or 7 songs each. Adam is performing 10 songs on NYE and that is a 40 minute set.

Orianthi gave a free concert last week in NYC that was 30 mins. She did four songs. Don’t forget you need time in between ea song for applause and banter or re-grouping.

When Adam said 10 songs, I think he was possibly exaggerating a bit. He was comparing the set length of Gridlock to the length he would have had on Ryan’s NYE show. How is he getting 10 songs into 40 mins? It doesn’t seem possible. 40 minutes was mentioned as the length of his set.

What evidence exists that Adam was popular enough to warrant a concert like this and the Davids/Jason were not? I don’t care how he’s the favorite pet of the media. He has sold anywhere near as many albums or as many singles as either of the Davids had by this point. He is simply not as popular with the public as they were, no matter how much the media tries to pretend otherwise.

Actually, Adam is selling just as much as David A. was selling this time last year, in terms of album sales. That’s realy good, especially considering the economic issues we are facing right now, and the rapid increase of illegal downloading.
And no offense, but there is no denying that Adam is pretty much a household name, much more than D.C., Jason Castro, or Archie, whether they learned about him through Idol, the AMAs, or the press. Heck, I even remember seeing numerous international newspapers and magazines talking about the whole AMA thing and the ABC/Chris Brown controversy.
That being said, I think ALL of them will have/are having good careers.

Name recognition’ ¦ I think Adam has become a household name; he’s always mentioned in the internet, even on Late Night Shows

Well, this is a double-edged sword. I’ve had people in real life say, when the name Adam Lambert came up, either “oh, Glambert?” or “that gay guy from American Idol?” Not, that guy with an amazing album and voice who I hear on the radio all the time. But branding is branding, I guess.

As for late night shows, Adam’s been mocked routinely, mostly due to being gay, constantly on Leno, Ferguson, Kimmel, Fallon, Conan. Monday night’s Leno will be the first time he’s actually invited to talk (ok, aside from Chelsea Lately, who made the first part of the interview all about the gay). It’d be nice if Adam actually went on these shows and was able to be interviewed and perform, so that he could be his charming self. Sense of humor trumps all. And I did think that some of the jokes were funny. Leno’s been obsessively joking about Adam lately, and his mistletoe joke was full of win with Adam’s cameo; the cd collection one, not so much.

For Allison “Scars”, “Trouble Is”, and “Holiday” stood out to me from the snippets and I love all of them! “Don’t Waste the Pretty” is a great song too! “Robot Love” is too cute! Love it! (Not a song I would typically like.)

I really love the entire CD. I hope things turn around for her soon! I don’t think this concert will be anything but good for her!

I’d probably substitute Scars for Trouble is. That one has already been performed with the full band and it is fantastic. I would love it if she performed You don’t know me.

I’d be happy with just about anything from that album, but I really want Trouble Is and D is for Dangerous myself.

Yay! another D is for Dangerous fan, but Trouble Is just didn’t stand out for me the way Scars did. I’d be happy to hear all three live, but doubt that will happen with this concert.

And I think 4 songs each would be a bit short, and even with set up time and everything between acts, I don’t think it would be that long if they did 5 songs each. Given the Jingle Balls and their line-ups and how many songs that were part of them, or other concerts I’ve gone to with multiple bands, doesn’t seem that much to me. And randomly I am reminded of a show I saw with James, Black Sheep, Tom Tom Club and God Lives Underwater. That was an interesting show.

Yay! another D is for Dangerous fan, but Trouble Is just didn’t stand out for me the way Scars did. I’d be happy to hear all three live, but doubt that will happen with this concert.

I’m definitely a big, big fan of D is for dangerous, I just don’t think there’s much of a chance of her performing that one. Did you get to watch Trouble is from the AOL sessions? It’s pretty fantastic as a rock ballad.

Well, this is a double-edged sword. I’ve had people in real life say, when the name Adam Lambert came up, either ‘oh, Glambert?’  or ‘that gay guy from American Idol?’  Not, that guy with an amazing album and voice who I hear on the radio all the time. But branding is branding, I guess.

I guess if that is what some folks want to focus on, then that is probably all the care about. Adam has an album out so if they want to check it out, they can. If they know who Adam is, they must have heard him sing on at least on one show, either AI, Letterman, Conan, SYTYCD, The View, etc. In every article that talks about Adam being gay there is always a mention about his voice.

Did you get to watch Trouble is from the AOL sessions? It’s pretty fantastic as a rock ballad.

I did not, and when I went to look for it, it was yanked. Is there a YouTube or something I could watch of it?

Yay! another D is for Dangerous fan,

I cannot get that song out of my head. I sing it all the time!

Allison is in terrible shape for a big-name artist. She’s not a big-name artist.

I agree. Its all about how Jive views her. No new artist is expected to do much of anything album wise until their single is charting, and even then, not much is really supposed to happen until they reach a threshold of popularity that sometimes doesn’t come until the second single. So if Jive really is seeing her as a new artist, I doubt they are too worried about her album sales at the moment. But if they are seeing her as an Idol quick buck product… which I don’t think is the case.. then she is in trouble.

If they know who Adam is, they must have heard him sing on at least on one show

No, that’s what I mean. A lot of people know Adam’s name, who he is, but don’t necessarily know his voice. I really hope Adam gets to develop the touring show he wants, and gets it into small venues he can sell, because that will make a better reputation. I mean, he’s known, but to be known for performing and creating a must-see show would be amazing. In any case, media is going to continue to stalk him.

Kind of weird that pretty soon, Kradison will be asked their thoughts on the S9 contestants.

No, that’s what I mean. A lot of people know Adam’s name, who he is, but don’t necessarily know his voice.

I guess I’m surprised if they have an opinion of him, they haven’t youtubed him yet.

I really hope Adam gets to develop the touring show he wants, and gets it into small venues he can sell, because that will make a better reputation.

I just never thought of him having a bad reputation. The only one negative (for some people) was the AMAs. But otherwise, I think it has been all postive. But I live in Los Angeles, so maybe it’s relative to where we live?

Truthiness: I did not, and when I went to look for [Trouble Is], it was yanked. Is there a YouTube or something I could watch of it?

Here’s one of the Youtube copies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrg3fXXGwCo

The sound quality isn’t nearly as good as it could be, but good god, what a performance. An even better performance than the album version (her live versions are pretty much always better, of course). There is not a better song on her album, and this has to be her “ballad single”.

I’m in the same camp with PRMari on D Is For Dangerous — I loove that song, but don’t think she’ll be performing it live. It’s got overlapping lead vocal tracks in it that would make it difficult to sing live, so I doubt they’ll tackle it for a while at least.

It is clear from Jive’s statements that they didn’t plan for her to have much of any Idol fanbase when they decided to sign her ‘” in other words, they planned to treat her as a new, essentially unknown artist. And 46K albums sold in two weeks for a new, relatively unknown artist actually sounds excellent to me.

Was the quote for her that they expected like 75K in her initial week? But yeah, if they’re treating her like a new artist, than she’s isn’t in trouble right now, but the label is still going to want to see some possibility for upwards growth with a single and ideally album. I mean that’s what they’re in it for, though granted for most new artists that doesn’t happen right away.

I still think they’re going to want to do something different with the single in the new year. Like I think getting a new one.

I agree with some other posts that NYC is a good neutral town for the concert. I think the fans will love all of these guys/gal.

I think NYC is a good place as well. I don’t think it should have been at any of their hometowns, and NYC is very neutral musically at least. Should be fun times!

Aren’t these three adorable? It’s a 3-day old clip; but it’s worth watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va0lennwFhU&feature=player_embedded

Don’t care what order they’ll perform; they are the best 3 from Season 8, IMHO.

Aren’t these three adorable? It’s a 3-day old clip; but it’s worth watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va0lennwFhU&feature=player_embedded

Don’t care what order they’ll perform; they are the best 3 from Season 8, IMHO.

I’ve never seen this and it is adorable. Lucky those that get to see the concert!!!

I am hoping Allison’s cd takes off.

She was my favorite this season and she came off as the real rocker of the show and kept true to herself.

I was surprised San Diego came in so low in the voting.

I was surprised San Diego came in so low in the voting.

I’m not. Adam hasn’t lived there in nearly 10 years so he doesn’t have much of a following there. His following is in Los Angeles. Also, people in Southern California just don’t get that passionate about these things. I know, I live here (probably because we spend all of our time in traffic. )

^^^ Yeah L.A. didn’t get behind Adam either.

Yeah L.A. didn’t get behind Adam either.

Or Allison. That is one of the reasons why both Adam and Allison had an uphill climb on AI. No one from the west coast has ever won AI. It’s just the attitude out here.

I’m glad New York won. It’s the best location for all three of them and will get them, I hope, the maxium exposure.

I see you just edited your post. Were you sad for Adam? Don’t be! He has fans at every corner of the world. You don’t think all the new yorkers voted on the poll to see Kris, do you?

uh, you don’t think Kris has fans in NYC and in the area, because apparently he does? I saw that some SCs (Glamberts) were only voting for NYC only because of their silly fanwar. Many who voted were NOT even from NY. Even before Adam came out about NY….now I did see that.

Truthiness: I did not, and when I went to look for [Trouble Is], it was yanked. Is there a YouTube or something I could watch of it?

Here’s one of the Youtube copies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrg3fXXGwCo

That was Awesome!!!!!!!!!!! She is better live then her record. I love her record buy live she is fantastic.

tinydance
12/19/2009 at 11:58 pm

^^^ Yeah L.A. didn’t get behind Adam either.

I see you just edited your post. Were you sad for Adam? Don’t be! He has fans at every corner of the world. You don’t think all the new yorkers voted on the poll to see Kris, do you?

uh, you don’t think Kris has fans in NYC and in the area, but apparently he does. I saw that some SPs (Glamberts) were only voting for NYC because of their silly fanwar’ ¦.now I did see that.

I wouldn’t be surprised if both Adam and Allison fans and even some Kris fans voted for New York. I think many people felt that LR was the worst place to have the concert. All three of them need to draw in new fans and a city like New York is the best place to do it.

Maybe some people voted for NYC because it’s neutral & will give all three more outside exposure than what they’ll get from their own hometown.

“‘ ¦.now I did see that.”

What exactly did you see? I’m sure there are NY Kris fans. But I’m sure most of Kris’s fans are from Arkansas. Isn’t that your point? That Little Rock DID get behind Kris? Isn’t that why he won that damn AI title?

But I’m sure most of Kris’s fans are from Arkansas.

Of course they aren’t.

That Little Rock DID get behind Kris? Isn’t that why he won that damn AI title?

No.

She was my favorite this season and she came off as the real rocker of the show and kept true to herself.

She kept true to herself just like Danny, Kris and Adam….and actually the top 13. So they are all pretty awesome.

Kris was the most actively engaged Idol in leading the charge with his [and his mom's] very active campaign for Little Rock.

uh, isn’t that their hometown? I believe Kris wrote something about LR about 5 days ago.

As I recall Glamberts were already voting for NYC two weeks ago because of their fanwar.

“Glambert” is a fan of Adam Lambert.

I would argue that there were not enough votes for this concert to even count as a fan scuffle, but if this was a fanwar, Kris was the most actively engaged Idol in leading the charge with his [and his mom's] very active campaign for Little Rock.

So actually his fans did not really get behind him like they should have ahhh poor Kris.

ETA Just pointing out you can spin each hometown anyway you want. Bottom line is NY won So none of their home town really got behind any of them enough to win. I am thrilled that it is in New York. All three have fans here.

Isn’t NYC, the biggest city?? It is in terms of population. LA is second. So it makes sense that AI fans as a segment of each city would vote NYC as winner.

I think the fact that LR even placed was a huge statement about Kris’s fans.

Chicago, then Houston are #3 and #4 in terms of population.

So Little Rock loves their hometown boy!

What is wrong with people collectively voting for NYC many times because they don’t want the concert to be held in Arkansas?

NYC is the best choice because it’s a win-win situation for all three. Adam fans made the right decision to support NYC at all cost over L.A., San Diego and Arkansas.

I’m glad NYC won.

Well, I live in Chicago and I’m not shocked we came in 5th despite being 3rd largest. Not many of my friends watch Idol or give a crap, and none of them have exactly made a name for themselves yet. Someone asked me the other day if the “gay guy’s” album was out yet. And it was a compliment, not a diss. I said yes, of course.

Good for Little Rock for supporting Kris!

uh, isn’t that their hometown? I believe Kris wrote something about LR about 5 days ago.

Demand It is organized by Metro Areas — Conway is part of the Little Rock metro area. From the US Census: Conway, AR is a principal city of the Little Rock’“North Little Rock’“Conway Metropolitan Statistical Area which had 675,069 people in 2008.

If you really care, check out Kris’ family’s tweets, KANation.com, KAofficial etc. and you will find a Little Rock campaign going back to 11/24/09. Also, Jim Cantiello interview with Kris in November Kris campaigned for Little Rock. Two Arkansas radio interview Kris campaigned for LR.

The Adam fan twitter campaign to vote for NY started on 11/27/09 — but was not organized and at the time Adam said he did not care where it was.

Within the past week, Kris and Adam tweeted about the location, but I gather that was to promote voting in the contest.

Kris’ tweet about the contest location:

This is the last week to vote for #ryanrockmytown so get on it. (whisper voice: especially you little rock)
8:23 AM Dec 15th from Echofon

Adam’s only tweet about the contest location was 2-1/2 days later:

@adamlambert Vote for RYan Rock my Town! I’d love to perform in NYC! http://bit.ly/4wGCLI
9:41 PM Dec 17th from Echofon

Why is it bad or unfair for home towns to support their Idols? The show is kinda set up that way, like it or not. *scratching head*

ETA: Although, If I were inclined to go to travel for this show, which I’m not because of personal reasons unrelated to the kids, I would rather go to NYC than Little Rock.

Why is it bad or unfair for home towns to support their Idols? The show is kinda set up that way, like it or not. *scratching head*

I admit to scratching my head too.

I think it is great if a hometown supports an Idol. And I think it is equally great that some Adam fans started an effort to unify with some Kris fans and some Alli fans to support a neutral location [NY] can be called fanwarring. Makes no sense to me. But even though I can drive to LR, I am glad the concert will be in NY.

Esqt
12/19/2009 at 11:28 pm

Aren’t these three adorable? It’s a 3-day old clip; but it’s worth watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va0lennwFhU&feature=player_embedded

That was soooo a-dorable. Thank you so much Esqt for bringing this here. This is the type of thing I could watch over and over. I’m jealous of those who get to go to the concert!!!!

ETA: somehow there was too much copied to my post. Now fixed.

JohnM
12/19/2009 at 9:58 pm

Truthiness: I did not, and when I went to look for [Trouble Is], it was yanked. Is there a YouTube or something I could watch of it?

Here’s one of the Youtube copies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrg3fXXGwCo

This was amazing! I watched earlier, but just got a chance to comment. Yeah, I’m partial to this song, but can’t wait to see the rest! Thanks for posting.

ALYESKA2 ‘“ LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT! Little Rock Ak beat out Los Angeles Ca ??? and people where only allowed to vote ONCE? Do they know how to count in ‘once’  in AK? Just say’n, seems odd!
In an interview with Jim C. Adam stated, Why not LA?, it’s where I live’  and Jim answered because LA was lame compared to NY.. they both laughed! well LR is lame compared to LA! I just don’t trust this ‘counting’  business anymore since Idol. Please don’t get me wrong as I love Kris and think he is very talented but still feel that some of the powers that where cheated in Litte Rock!

Coming out of lurkdom to respond to the Arkansas (AR) bashing.

Make up your minds ‘“ we are either country hicks in the middle of nowhere that don’t deserve the concert or we are technological geniuses that cheat at everything. Don’t see how we can be both.

ALYESKA2 ‘“ For the ‘Rock My Town’  contest there were a little over 6000 votes from the Little Rock metro area. (New York won with 8000+votes). At one time, LR was only about 400 votes behind NY. Within 50 miles of Little Rock, there is a population of 850,561. This contest was promoted by the LR Chamber of Commerce, local television and radio stations, and (of course) Mama Allen and Kris for several weeks. I don’t see that you can accuse Arkansas of cheating in this ‘“ unless you have some proof????

What is wrong with people collectively voting for NYC many times because they don’t want the concert to be held in Arkansas?

Because the rules were one vote per person?

I didn’t really expect Little Rock to win, but not our fault LA peeps didn’t vote. LA had less than 2000 votes – not even close to LR. Believe it or not, there are a lot of music lovers in Arkansas. While Kris did receive a home town welcome this summer on the AI tour (at the sold-out Verizon Arena), ALL of the other idols received much love and appreciation ‘“ Adam probably the most after Kris. Allison, too, received a whole lotta love!

I hope that some of you will get to the concert in NY. Wouldn’t it be lovely to read a concert review like the posts over the summer? AND videos – good ones….

connie0128
12/20/2009 at 2:52 am

Because the rules were one vote per person?

I didn’t really expect Little Rock to win, but not our fault LA peeps didn’t vote. LA had less than 2000 votes ‘“ not even close to LR.

The “rules” of one vote per person are flawed because it’s by email addy. There were no physical addresses submitted.

Initially every city was voting normally. Then LR surged ahead and it was realized by Adam fans that as long as there was vote splitting around the country, Adam would perform in LR, Kris’s home town. Especially considering he even had Fox advertising for him, promoting the show and retaining the promo on their TV station’s website etc.

So Adam fans banded together to select one neutral city. NYC happened to have a greater margin over LA so NY was chosen. If LA was ahead of NY then it would have been LA and not NY. It could have been anywhere, Seattle, Nashville or Anchorage. It really had nothing to do with Adam’s hometown, but more a vote against LR.

Regarding counting, the contest cannot possibly know who is submitting votes but only that votes were each a unique email addy. People were voting from all over the world. Mrs Allen even had people from Brazil asking for her for zips as did Adam fans. If I have 4 members of my household, in theory, I have 4 unique email addys.

Nobody says Kris fans are backwater hicks who can’t organize. They proved their enormous org skills months ago.

The event certainly knew that it was not a contest of “cities” but of votes. It was just up to the public to decide which city had more draw vis a vis organized voters.

I think which ever city would have won, I think the three would do a fabulous job.

And yes, that youtube video is soooo cute.

And about these contests incl. AI, I don’t think voting fairness actually counts. Its not like its a Presidential Campaign. Its all about, I guess, how passionate the fans can get about voting. Sadly, I am not in the US, If i was I would have surely voted for Adam.

And at the end of the day, all 3 of them have an album and managed to shine post AI. They are doing well!!

SO who IS going for the KRADISON concert? Imagine ppl, its a KRADISON concert!!!!! I will be sooo looking forward to the youtubes!

February please come soon…

I sure love all three of them so much and bought all three CD. I live in NY also but not the 50 mile radius thou. But when I voted I lived in Kentucky so I voted for one in KY.

I sure love all three of them so much and bought all three CD. I live in NY also but not the 50 mile radius thou. But when I voted I lived in Kentucky so I voted for one in KY.

I voted for NYC as I live in Western CT and NYC is the closest large city. I bought all 3 Cds too. Adam for me and my 9 yr old. Kris for my mom and aunt. Allison for my niece. I was at Target yesterday and they had 1 Adam CD left, no Kris CDs and alot of Allison. Just one store but I find myself checking every store I go into to see how well they are doing. Crazy. I preferred Danny at (except the speech and dancing) the concert to Kris but I think it was because I was in the nose-bleed section in a bigger arena. I think I would much prefer Kris in a smaller more intimate setting. I’m hoping the record labels are also looking at online streaming places. My daughter is in college and listens to music on some website I’ve never heard of. I’m hoping the labels are using traffic / visits / plays from these sites to determine how popular artists really are. They need to embrace this as it isn’t going away and find a way to make it work for them somehow.

Reminder:

There was a ton of off-topic material in this thread. The topic is the “Rock My Town” concert. Not the Headlines thread, not a fan thread for your favorite and not the let’s rehash what happened months ago thread. It’s also not a sales thread. If you are going to continue to post in this thread, please stick to the subject.

awwwww. Adam is so cute in the video without makeup.

I live in New York State but did not vote. Wonder if I’ll have a chance at tickets? An on-line lottery maybe? I’d pay for them too.

It was one vote per email address, but it was one vote each day. So I voted for NYC whenever I remembered, since my town had no chance of winning.

2. One demand per person per city
http://eventful.com/performers/adam-lambert-kris-allen-allison-iraheta-/P0-001-000216224-2/competitions?offer=offer

From the official rules:
Entries limited to one (1) entry per participant. http://static.eventful.com/store/competitions/ryanrockmytown2009/ryanrockmytown2009_rules.pdf

Thanks to all who voted for NYC. Lots of luv in the city to go around for all three artists.

It was one vote per email address, but it was one vote each day. So I voted for NYC whenever I remembered, since my town had no chance of winning.

Only the first vote counted.

Regarding the Demand It voting — it was basically 1 vote per household. It was very difficult to vote more than once in this contest. For example, only one vote per IP addres was counted. If you tried to vote a second time using a different email address, your vote was not counted. If you voted for a lot of different Demand It events, your votes were all discarded. There were a lot of other controls in place to eliminate people voting more than once.

From the Demad It website:

We also have a fraud check so that fans cannot artificially increase demands, demanding the same artist come to their town over and over. Sometimes, this gets in the way when a few people try to sign up from within the same network or from the same computer.

Oh, so that was a waste of time! It thanked me every time though. : )

“Glamberts were already voting for NYC two weeks ago because of their fanwar.”

For the record, I am an Adam Lambert fan. I don’t choose to call myself a this or a that because I don’t like labels. Knowing my own little town could never win, I voted for NYC because I think it’s the greatest city in America and would be the most exciting, cool place for Adam to perform – places to go, people to see. (I like L.A., too, but he’s been there done that for awhile.)

I am of the camp that thinks NYC is a win-win-win for all three, and most especially for those who CHOOSE to call themselves “Kradison” fans.

I live in Chicago but I voted for NYC. It’s the city with the highest visibility and would get the most media coverage. And they’ll all show up for Adam in NYC. Win!

Unless the listing on the Eventful site is incorrect, this concert will be at 8:00AM Sunday morning in New York. If that is correct, this entire thing is the silliest thing ever.

Q3

That’s gotta be wrong. Who plays a concert at 8 a.m. on Sunday — unless it’s in a church?

Besides Ryan tweeted that the time and venue will be announced at a later date.

“^^^ Yeah L.A. didn’t get behind Adam either.”

I live in LA and I voted for NY because NYE Adam will be here, and I think it is good for him to get exposure in other big cities.

I think the people here in LA, and the LA buzz, has been very supportive of Adam for the most part.

I voted for San Francisco. I had no idea that there was an organized voting going on…Anyway, I’m glad NY won. I hope we’ll be able to see some YouTube clips after the concert. I hope Adam’s solo tour will make a stop at SF, fingers crossed.

That’s gotta be wrong. Who plays a concert at 8 a.m. on Sunday ‘” unless it’s in a church?

There is a church in New York City that has been turned into a huge dance bar! On some nights, it is mostly gay men. They could play there! lol

The New York concert with Adam Kris and Allison!
Happy Valentine’s Day!
Sunday morning at 8am to 10am Can this really be true? Very odd time for a concert but here is a link. Accurate? time will tell.

http://eventful.com/newyorkcity/events/adam-lambert-kris-allen-allison-iraheta-new-/E0-001-026999670-7

tinydance
12/20/2009 at 12:49 am

Kris was the most actively engaged Idol in leading the charge with his [and his mom's] very active campaign for Little Rock.

uh, isn’t that their hometown? I believe Kris wrote something about LR about 5 days ago.

As I recall Glamberts were already voting for NYC two weeks ago because of their fanwar.

You’re mistaken, Kris started promoting LR right in the beginning of the competition. He Tweeted something like “I see you LR trying to win the concert” with a smile and his mom promoted it too.

Adam refrained from commenting until the other day when some of us tweeted “you could tweet that you want to perform in NY since Kris already has been promoting LR” and so he did. That same night as a matter of fact.

So from what I’m reading here, Kris is the only one of the three that actively promoted this concert? I think Ryan Seacrest and KISS owe him a huge thank you.

I think what happened with Kris is that he noticed that Little Rock was #2 behind New York (only 400 votes behind) and he wanted to express his appreciation with that tweet “I see you LR trying to win the concert.” Then some folks started thinking LR might actually win and Momma Allen and Jim C tweeted about it. I think Kris has been far to busy to actively promote anything but his album.

I do think New York is the best location, I was just defending Arkansas earlier. MJ has deleted a lot of the very ugly posts about LR but they weren’t very nice.

As far as voting for NY if you lived elsewhere, the rules didn’t say you had to vote for your own hometown. I think it’s fine that people voted for NY no matter where they are from.

Perhaps the advertisement is a mistake – maybe they mean’t PM? Sunday morning is ridiculous!

sleepinggiant
Sorry but Adam also tweeted on November 27 in the am, about voting and he put up the internet site to get the competition hopping –so that is 2 tweets –not just one!

sleepinggiant and TwigLA

regarding the discussion re: the 3 and their involvement in promoting the concert.
In checking a record of posted tweets, all three tweeted about the voting for the concert. I cannot say about any other verbal/interview promotions they did on the concert but with tweets it was pretty much the same number. So all three personally contibuted to the promotion through tweets. Of course I am not counting anything family member may have done (Allen family)
Allison did 3 generic tweets Nov 24, Dec 11 and Dec 15,

Kris tweeted Nov 24 and Dec 15 (with the whisper about Little Rock)

Adam tweeted Nov 27 and Dec 17 (with a plug for NYC – to get the competiton firing up –as implied by you sleepinggiant)

I’m very happy that it will be in NYC. I would have preferred Los Angeles, and that is what I voted for. ONE time with ONE email address.

I’m very happy that it will be in NYC. I would have preferred Los Angeles, and that is what I voted for. ONE time with ONE email address.

Yep, me too! ONE time with ONE email address for NYC.

Evidently, only one vote per ip address was allowed. So I guess some people wasted their time.

Adam was in an MTV interview at JB where he said he didn’t care where it would be as long as fans were there. Mof he said that it could be LR (He really got a warm welcome there while on AI tour) He also said “Why not LA?, It’s Where I’m From”. Can’t wait to see Adam he loves NY and visa versa.

I’m very happy that it will be in NYC. I would have preferred Los Angeles, and that is what I voted for. ONE time with ONE email address.

Well, it is called Ryan, Rock My Town. “Bring Adam Lambert, Kris Allen, and Allison Iraheta To Your City.” I think it’s kind of a shame that people (apparently, Adam fans?) “organized” to get votes for NYC, just because it’s not Little Rock. That goes against the spirit of the contest completely.

At least the people who wanted the concert to be in Little Rock were (mostly) from Arkansas. That was the point of the contest, wasn’t it? To try to bring the idols to your own city? Not “a neutral city.”

I’m a little late to the party, huh? Too bad I have a life. But I think that I will have to fly to NY, even though I live in LA; just give me a date. Frankly, I want to see Matt included in this concert. Matt and Adam are the best live performers. And even though I think Kris is a hoot and a fine musician, I really only want to see him performing live in a duet with Allison or Adam. Kris is funny; he’d be a great mc and occasional musician. But give me Matt, Adam and my girl Allison, and I’m happy.

I had no idea there was a Little Rock in Alaska, or that they were such big American Idol fans up there

You have Little Rock, AK but it’s Little Rock, AR… just to let you know. AK is Alaska

guys, MJ KNOWS the abbreviation for Arkansas is AR – this is just a little inside joke from the tour over the summer. I think Matt tweeted something about coming to AK and there was a photo of Kris showing him a poster with the correct AR abbreviation. I can’t get to it now but if you check the archives around July 25 you will find the photo and discussion…

Where is the venue for this concert? Hasn’t been announced yet?

nvm