Billboard – Chart Date 9/26/12

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As we all know, there are approximately 80,333 Billboard charts. This is a summary of just some of those charts and how the Idols/AGTers did on them this week. Please feel free to post rankings from your favourite BB chart or any other numbers you care to share. This is the daily numbers thread. The date in the header is the published chart date.

Carrie Underwood continues to the top of the Country Album chart.

Albums:
Carrie Underwood “Blown Away”: BB200 5 (8); Digital 5 (6); Country 1 (1)
One Direction “Up All Night”: BB200 12 (12); Digital 14 (16)
Jordin Sparks “Sparkle”: BB200 66 (50); R&B 15 (13)
Kelly Clarkson “Stronger”: BB200 71 (74);
Phil Phillips Walmart Album: BB200 123 (129)
Mandisa “What if We Were Real”: Christian 16 (9)
Scotty McCreery “Clear as Day”: Country 39 (40)
Skylar Laine Walmart Album: Country 51 (49)
Casey James “Casey James”: Country 59 (68)
Josh Ledet Walmart Album: R&B 42 (39)
Rebecca Fergusen “Heaven”: R&B 72 (60)
Jackie Evancho “Dream With Me”: Classical Cross-Over 4 (4)
Landau Eugene Murphy Jr “That’s Life”: Jazz 31 (38)

Singles:
Owl City & Carly Rae Jepsen “Good Time”: Hot 100 9 (8); Hot 100 Airplay 14 (16); Digital 10 (5); Adult Top 40 14 (16)
Carly Rae Jepsen “Call Me Maybe”: Hot 100 12 (10); Hot 100 Airplay 15 (12); Digital 14 (10); Hot Single Sales 3 (2); AC 6 (5); Adult Top 40 7 (6)
Cher Lloyd “Want U Back”: Hot 100 21 (17); Hot 100 Airplay 38 (28); Digital 13 (9); Adult Top 40 23 (23)
Phillip Phillips “Home”: Hot 100 22 (21); Hot 100 Airplay 65 (70); Digital 9 (6); AC 27 (29); Adult Top 40 10 (11)
Carrie Underwood “Blown Away”: Hot 100 28 (31); Hot 100 Airplay 43 (52); Digital 17 (18); Country 9 (10)
One Direction “What Makes You Beautiful”: Hot 100 29 (29); Hot 100 Airplay 36 (29); Digital 36 (37); AC 9 (8)
Kelly Clarkson “Dark Side”: Hot 100 56 (47); Hot 100 Airplay 58 (53); Digital 49 (40); AC 19 (21); Adult Top 40 13 (10); Dance Club 37 (11)
One Direction “One Thing”: Digital 48 (73)
Kelly Clarkson “Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill You)”: AC 3 (3)
Casey Abrams “Get Out”: AC 24 (23)
Hedley “Kiss You Inside and Out”: Adult Top 40 33 (35)
Jordin Sparks “Celebrate” featuring Whitney Houston: Adult R&B 17 (14)
Rebecca Fergusen “Run Free”: Adult R&B 28 (27)
Michael Lynche “Who’s Gonna Love You More”: Adult R&B 25 (29)
Leah LaBelle “Sexify”: Adult R&B 39 (RE)
Casey James “Crying on a Suitcase”: Country 30 (30)
Lauren Alaina “18 Inches”: Country 38 (37)
Jason Castro “Only a Mountain”: Christian Songs 26 (23)
Rebecca Fergusen “Nothing’s Real But Love”: Dance Club 11 (14)
Adam Lambert “Never Close Our Eyes”: Dance Club 17 (17)

 
  • Incipit

    Who is getting the Radio Play right now – ?

    Brian Mansfield at Idol Chatter has a piece on “Radio Idols” HERE at USAToday:

    These are radio’s most-played Idols, according to Mediabase:

    1. Kelly Clarkson
    2. Carrie Underwood
    3. Daughtry
    4. Phillip Phillips
    5. Casey James
    6. Jordin Sparks
    7. Adam Lambert
    8. David Cook
    9. Kris Allen
    10. Lauren Alaina

    Which doesn’t match with his list of 13 current idol’s singles out on the charts. Interesting.

    Here’s Brian’s list of 11 Idols with current singles on the charts:

    1. Kelly Clarkson, Dark Side (#19 AC, #13 Hot AC, #21 Top 40)
    2. Kelly Clarkson, Stronger (What Doesn’t Kill You) (#3 AC)
    3. Carrie Underwood, Blown Away (#9 Country)
    4. Phillip Phillips, Home (#22 AAA, #33 AC, #10 Hot AC, #31 Top 40)
    5. Casey James, Crying on a Suitcase (#27 Country)
    6. Lauren Alaina, Eighteen Inches (#38 Country)
    7. Whitney Houston/Jordin Sparks, Celebrate (#15 Urban AC)
    8. Mandisa, Good Morning f. TobyMac (#24 Christian AC)
    9. Jason Castro, Only a Mountain (#25 Christian AC)
    10. Casey Abrams, Get Out (#24 AC, #46 Hot AC)
    11. Daughtry, Start of Something Good (#45 Hot AC)
    12. Michael Lynche, Today (#41 AC)
    13. Casey Abrams, Simple Life (#19 Smooth AC)

    Do these facts lead anyone to draw any conclusions about Radio Play? I was waiting for Brian to add a conclusion, but he didn’t, he just posted the numbers.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Do these facts lead anyone to draw any conclusions about Radio Play?

    Yup. Several.

    First, there’s some sort of big drop-off between the top 3 (who have multiple hits that get recurrent play as well as current music), #4 (who has a rising hit in several formats but no recurrent history), and then everybody else. Casey James is doing nicely, but he’s not racking up huge numbers; and Lauren Alaina’s airplay is extremely modest. (ETA: There may even be big disparities from #1 to #2 and then to #3, as Clarkson gets play in 3 large formats, while most of Underwood’s is in just one.)

    Second, recurrents matter a lot. That’s what’s keeping Lambert, Allen, and Cook on the list: their past hits get recurrent play on HAC as well as AC play. That’s also why Daughtry ranks so high when his new single hasn’t risen yet. Sparks also gets some recurrent play, but Urban AC is a decent-sized format and her chart position is good, so numbers in the middle of the list may be low enough that nothing else is needed to put her there.

    Third, some of the formats are so small that a modest chart position won’t add up to large amounts of ears or spins (both small listenership and few stations to contribute spins, so it doesn’t matter which you count). That’s your Smooth AC and Christian AC. That’s also AAA and any rock format other than alternative rock.

  • Incipit

    Thanks, Eilonwy. Those small formats you mention also provide a clear look, for me, at why labels may push an artist into a genre that is not, in many cases, a perfect fit. The small genre may not even be willing to play them – but even if they do – the artists are not going to get much by way of AI…which impacts their sales. 

    It’s also a vivid lesson on the value of recurrents. I had not expected them to be ‘so’ present.

  • thirdtime

    This most played radio list is confusing to me.  Where is Scotty on the list?  I don’t listen to country stations, but is Lauren Alaina actually getting more radio play than Scotty??

    ETA: Maybe this is just today’s current list of most played and I’m misinterpreting it. I thought it was a list of the Idols who lead the pack in radio play, but I guess it would make sense if it’s who is getting played most just today, not in general.

  • http://twitter.com/eilonwya10 Eilonwy

    Those small formats you mention also provide a clear look, for me, at why labels may push an artist into a genre that is not, in many cases, a perfect fit.  The small genre may not even be willing to play them – but even if they do – the artists are not going to get much by way of AI…which impacts their sales.

    This reminds me of something I noticed when working on the radio play/album sales project this spring. The hip-hop-oriented artists who get big CHR play these days typically also get very healthy play in Urban, which isn’t a teeny-tiny format but is definitely smaller and a niche. When musical styles change in CHR, they’ll still have a home format that will allow them to distribute music broadly and make a living.

    But I suspect these artists’ very first major-label contracts were written so that their work would have reasonably good ROI based on Urban play alone, even if they didn’t break to CHR. 

    It’s easier to do intelligent A&R when the financial incentives align.

  • ptebwwong

    Scotty doesn’t have a single out right now & he doesn’t usually get played on recurrents which is why he’s not on the list. Lauren has a single out right now which is in the top 40 on country. But if she didn’t have a single out she wouldn’t be on the list because they don’t play her on recurrents either.

    This list is who is getting played currently. Cook, Kris, Adam, & Daughtry are high because they still have recurrents getting played. I still hear all their past songs on the radio.

  • standtotheright

    It’s also a vivid lesson on the value of recurrents. I had not expected them to be ‘so’ present.

    I prefer looking at the charts from kworb for this reason. Even on CHR, recurrents can get more airplay than currently charting hits. (P2′s Home is #30 on the published chart and #47 on the published+recurrents chart.)

    Oh, and for those interested, Psy’s “Gangam Style” zoomed into the top 40 at CHR and looks like it needs a few songs going recurrent to go top 30. I’d guess a couple of weeks the way Settle Down and Titanium are falling.

  • DB987

    Scotty does get some recurrent play as does Lauren especially in the South but I would guess without any current singles it is not enough to get him to make the list.

  • ptebwwong

    I know Scotty & Lauren does get some recurrent play. It’s just not enough compared to Cook, Kris, Daughtry, & Adam which gets played on mainstream radio. Mainstream radio is a bigger format so even if they have recurrent songs they should be played more often than artists in the country genre with low recurrent airplay & singles that haven’t hit the top 30 (Lauren).

    I have noticed at least for the country genre if you’re a new artist & have 1-2 hits (for some artists big hits) you still don’t get much recurrent airplay if you don’t have a current single out. For example, David Nail had a big hit with “Let It Rain.” It even went to #1. But he’s not played a lot on recurrents. When I hear recurrents on country, it’s usually by big country stars like Taylor, Carrie, Lady A, etc. & established country artists like Josh Turner, Craig Morgan, etc. 

    They don’t usually play new artists on recurrents like Scotty & Lauren. Hunter Hayes & Brantley which are 2 of the big new artists don’t really get played for recurrents either when you compare the other country artists. They do get played more than Scotty & Lauren. But considering Brantley has 2 #1 hits he doesn’t get played that much on recurrents. Hunter’s “Storm Warning” does get played on recurrent, but I wouldn’t say a lot either.

  • DB987

    Ya I get all that.  I just said without a current single he doesn’t get enough recurrent play to make the list. The reasons you state I would think are obvious to people who follow this stuff as it is to me.

  • girlygirltoo

    Recurrents can give someone a big edge in terms of overall radio play, especially if the songs were pretty big hits to begin with. For example, I have heard as many as six different Kelly Clarkson songs played on KBIG (the HAC station here in L.A.) in a single day. Same thing with Katy Perry. In Adam’s and Kris’ cases, WWFM and LLWD were still getting almost as many spins per week as their most recent singles, even when the newer singles were actually charting. And now that their more recent singles have fallen off the charts, I would bet that WWFM & LLWD are getting more spins per week than their newer songs. It’s a bit of a double edged sword, really. Why should stations rush to play new songs when they know they have older songs from the same artist that were well received by their listening audience.

  • Mateja Praznik

     Not really. Kris and Adam have one hit each that gets recurrent airplay. I mean, big popstars have 10, 20 recurrent hits and can still get a lot of airplay with new singles. By your logic, why should radio PDs rush to add Rihanna’s new single next week when she has a gazillion hits under her belt?

  • girlygirltoo

    Ok, well my comment really applies more to less established artists.  Look at Gotye, for example — his follow up to Somebody That I used to Know is really having trouble getting radio play. Carly Rae Jepsen’s getting a lot of play for her song with Owl City, but her own 2nd single, Curiousity, did nothing in the US, despite doing well in Canada — did they even push it  to US radio? Even the new golden boy bands, 1D and The Wanted, have had less success with their follow up songs to WMYB and IGYC. They will be getting radio play for these 1st big hits for months if not years to come — the same can not necessarily be said about their more recent singles.

    And when it comes to ex-Idols, this seems a pattern unless your name is Kelly or Carrie. Even Daughtry probably gets his older songs played as much, if not more, than his more recent ones.

  • LVD

    I know Scotty & Lauren does get some recurrent play. It’s just not enough compared to Cook, Kris, Daughtry, & Adam which gets played on mainstream radio. Mainstream radio is a bigger format so even if they have recurrent songs they should be played more often than artists in the country genre with low recurrent airplay & singles that haven’t hit the top 30 (Lauren). 

    Country is a big format, it is bigger then HAC, it is almost as big as CHR.

  • Mateja Praznik

    “Somebody That I Used to Know” is different from Gotye’s other material. He is not a pop artist, his one big hit was a fluke.
    I don’t know if “Curiosity” was released in the US. Probably not. “Call Me Maybe” was such a monster that nothing had a chance. Then they released that duet with Owl City and “This Kiss” is next.
    I don’t know what happened with One Direction’s second single. A lot of stations jumped on it when the first single was still gaining and then the label went ahead with the add date and the first single still wouldn’t die. I know that “One Thing” is nearing 1 million in sales. It’s been selling well since the album release.

  • http://twitter.com/doesmonaknow DoesMonaKnow

    Home is back to #8 on iTunes.

  • OffLeash

    #7 now lol. Lemme guess: P2 performed on TV today… j/k. Home was #11 before Ellen.

  • elliegrll

    Why should stations rush to play new songs when they know they have older songs from the same artist that were well received by their listening audience.

    Because they want more music from that artist?  We saw that happen when PDs jumped all over the Carly Rae and Owl City song, even though Owl City hadn’t been able to pay PDs to play anything since Fireflies.  

    Honestly, The Truth wouldn’t have been added to more than half of the Hot AC panel if it wasn’t for the success of LLWD.  The problem wasn’t that PDs were more interested in playing LLWD, it’s that The Truth wasn’t a good song for radio, and it wasn’t in the same vein as LLWD, so it wasn’t going to be able to capitalize off of that songs success.

    That’s how it is sometimes.  One Directions second single didn’t catch on with listeners or PDs like their first one did, it’s just not as catchy.  David Archuleta followed up a bubblegum pop song with one that was better suited for someone twice his age (so did Kris), so it shouldn’t be a surprise that PDs didn’t play it like they did Crush.

    But, I think that artists like Bruno Mars, Gaga, Rihanna, Carrie Underwood and more have shown that if someone has shown that they can release music that their listeners want to hear that they will jump at the chance to play their songs.