Comments on: American Stars in Concert for the Holidays – Videos and Pictures http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm American Idol - I Love This Cheesy Show Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jae http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-171474 Jae Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:43:52 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-171474 The gays can keep Kimberly Locke. I used to like her until I read her quote on Jason Castro. It was a stupid thing to say that made me think a lot less of her. I don't think I will ever buy an album from such a mean spirited person. As for the rest, I really hope they do well. I think David H is talented though I can't imagine what sort of music he would put out if he made an album. And Chikezie has tons of showmanship. I really enjoyed him on the Idol tour. I think he should do something that plays to those strengths. Diana Degarmo has time to do great things. She was younger than David A when she did Idol so I think that she has done all that she has in the 4-5 ears since she did the show is great. I think she has a chance in country. The gays can keep Kimberly Locke. I used to like her until I read her quote on Jason Castro. It was a stupid thing to say that made me think a lot less of her. I don’t think I will ever buy an album from such a mean spirited person.

As for the rest, I really hope they do well. I think David H is talented though I can’t imagine what sort of music he would put out if he made an album. And Chikezie has tons of showmanship. I really enjoyed him on the Idol tour. I think he should do something that plays to those strengths. Diana Degarmo has time to do great things. She was younger than David A when she did Idol so I think that she has done all that she has in the 4-5 ears since she did the show is great. I think she has a chance in country.

]]> By: foxydonna http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-2/#comment-170854 foxydonna Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:25:00 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170854 Right now, there are a grand total of 82 people who were finalists on American Idol. Of them, there are only a handful I would pay to see - Bo Bice, George Huff, David Cook, Taylor Hicks - and maybe Clay. I am planning on going to see Ruben, Frenchie and Trenyce in 'Ain't Misbehavin' when it comes to Syracuse in the spring. Just because someone was on Idol isn't enough of a draw for me to shell out my hard-earned cash. It's just not. If an Idol that I like well enough comes to town and performs free, I'll go! Big of me, I know! Oh, I'm trying to get an interview with Anwar Robinson who is starring in 'Godspell' with Syracuse Stage. I'll go see that over the holidays as well. Off topic a bit... my work office was recently moved and now I can get FM radio again and only a couple of stations - one being the pop/rock station. I'm catching up on all the pop songs - they must play "Crush" five times during my work day and Jordin's "One Step at a Time" is also in regular rotation. Daughtry's still getting play as well. Today I heard Elliott Yamin's "Wait for You" and Kelly's "Behind These Hazel Eyes." It's interesting they don't play Cook. Right now, there are a grand total of 82 people who were finalists on American Idol. Of them, there are only a handful I would pay to see – Bo Bice, George Huff, David Cook, Taylor Hicks – and maybe Clay. I am planning on going to see Ruben, Frenchie and Trenyce in ‘Ain’t Misbehavin’ when it comes to Syracuse in the spring. Just because someone was on Idol isn’t enough of a draw for me to shell out my hard-earned cash. It’s just not.

If an Idol that I like well enough comes to town and performs free, I’ll go! Big of me, I know!

Oh, I’m trying to get an interview with Anwar Robinson who is starring in ‘Godspell’ with Syracuse Stage. I’ll go see that over the holidays as well.

Off topic a bit… my work office was recently moved and now I can get FM radio again and only a couple of stations – one being the pop/rock station. I’m catching up on all the pop songs – they must play “Crush” five times during my work day and Jordin’s “One Step at a Time” is also in regular rotation. Daughtry’s still getting play as well. Today I heard Elliott Yamin’s “Wait for You” and Kelly’s “Behind These Hazel Eyes.” It’s interesting they don’t play Cook.

]]> By: soundscene http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170853 soundscene Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:24:14 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170853 ^^ It's okay, I got your point! We basically said the same thing. ^^ It’s okay, I got your point! We basically said the same thing.

]]> By: IdolFanatic http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170852 IdolFanatic Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:21:40 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170852 <blockquote>Yeah, which is why I noted that the ones that have been successful would have been so without AI if they had the same record deal.</blockquote> Ah! Yeah gotcha! Sorry...I misread your original post a bit I guess :)

Yeah, which is why I noted that the ones that have been successful would have been so without AI if they had the same record deal.

Ah! Yeah gotcha! Sorry…I misread your original post a bit I guess :)

]]> By: FolkFan http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170837 FolkFan Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:45:26 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170837 Before this season, I'd watched the show, but had never lifted a finger to vote for an Idol contestant, and I had bought zero Idol records and only 3 singles from any Idol contestant: Carrie's cover of I'll Stand By You from the original Idol Gives Back, and Kellie Pickler's first two singles. (At some point, I'm sure I'll succumb and buy some of Kelly's singles, but I digress.) I suspect that a lot of viewers are like I was before this season (and probably will be again) or only slightly more active, in that they might try to register some free votes. So, the concept of going to a show of former Idols because it is a show of former Idols, I can see where that wouldn't go far. Now, I wouldn't be adverse to it---if, say, I'd seen that morning show where these Idols performed and I liked the performance, I would be open to going to a show. But in and of itself, an Idol show would not be a selling point for me, despite the time I've logged watching the show. Before this season, I’d watched the show, but had never lifted a finger to vote for an Idol contestant, and I had bought zero Idol records and only 3 singles from any Idol contestant: Carrie’s cover of I’ll Stand By You from the original Idol Gives Back, and Kellie Pickler’s first two singles. (At some point, I’m sure I’ll succumb and buy some of Kelly’s singles, but I digress.) I suspect that a lot of viewers are like I was before this season (and probably will be again) or only slightly more active, in that they might try to register some free votes. So, the concept of going to a show of former Idols because it is a show of former Idols, I can see where that wouldn’t go far. Now, I wouldn’t be adverse to it—if, say, I’d seen that morning show where these Idols performed and I liked the performance, I would be open to going to a show. But in and of itself, an Idol show would not be a selling point for me, despite the time I’ve logged watching the show.

]]> By: soundscene http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170833 soundscene Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:24:19 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170833 <blockquote>I think this assessment certainly holds merit, but from what I know of Kelly Clarkson, she was pounding the pavement out in LA pretty hard trying to get a record deal and had no luck before Idol.</blockquote> Yeah, which is why I noted that the ones that have been successful would have been so without AI <em>if they had the same record deal</em>. They needed AI to get the record deal (some--I can argue that others might have eventually gotten a deal, regardless). Sometimes label execs just don't get it, and pass on artists that could have made them a lot of money. AI is a means to find these people. Whether AI truly is "that show" anymore is up for debate--possibly in a thread about how too many semi-pros with past label contracts are getting passed through to Hollywood.

I think this assessment certainly holds merit, but from what I know of Kelly Clarkson, she was pounding the pavement out in LA pretty hard trying to get a record deal and had no luck before Idol.

Yeah, which is why I noted that the ones that have been successful would have been so without AI if they had the same record deal. They needed AI to get the record deal (some–I can argue that others might have eventually gotten a deal, regardless). Sometimes label execs just don’t get it, and pass on artists that could have made them a lot of money. AI is a means to find these people. Whether AI truly is “that show” anymore is up for debate–possibly in a thread about how too many semi-pros with past label contracts are getting passed through to Hollywood.

]]> By: brie200 http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170830 brie200 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:53:11 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170830 During this past season there was a period of time where I felt like David A. might go the way of Diana. This was during the season mind you and I didn't get a big appreciation for Archie until after the season. I thought there were a lot of similarities between the two. But as said, Jive knew what to do with Archie and how to market him. Something Diana didn't have. That said, I still think Diana is more of a performer than a recording artist. I also have to agree that for most of these folks as long as they are getting more gigs and making more money than they were pre-Idol, it's still pretty much a win/win situation for them. During this past season there was a period of time where I felt like David A. might go the way of Diana. This was during the season mind you and I didn’t get a big appreciation for Archie until after the season. I thought there were a lot of similarities between the two. But as said, Jive knew what to do with Archie and how to market him. Something Diana didn’t have. That said, I still think Diana is more of a performer than a recording artist.

I also have to agree that for most of these folks as long as they are getting more gigs and making more money than they were pre-Idol, it’s still pretty much a win/win situation for them.

]]> By: IdolFanatic http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170818 IdolFanatic Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:42:40 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170818 <blockquote>I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think anybody on AI knew what to do with a 16 year old with an adult voice way back in season 3. Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve caught on a bit more now with Jordin and Archie.</blockquote> Well perhaps, but I also think some of it has to do with the label. Jive is great at marketing these types of teen singing sensations. RCA, not so much. Had Diana signed with Jive instead, I think she would've had better luck. But I still think country is the genre that she should've aimed at all along. That's where her voice really shines. But even then, country was still not embracing young singers the way they are now.

I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think anybody on AI knew what to do with a 16 year old with an adult voice way back in season 3. Theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve caught on a bit more now with Jordin and Archie.

Well perhaps, but I also think some of it has to do with the label. Jive is great at marketing these types of teen singing sensations. RCA, not so much. Had Diana signed with Jive instead, I think she would’ve had better luck. But I still think country is the genre that she should’ve aimed at all along. That’s where her voice really shines. But even then, country was still not embracing young singers the way they are now.

]]> By: IdolFanatic http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170813 IdolFanatic Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:38:44 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170813 <blockquote>I think the former contestants and winners that are successful outside of Idol (be it in their particular genre, or overall mega-successful) are the ones that would have been successful if they had gotten the same record deal without Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬'AI was really just a means to get that deal, and not some sort of indicator of success based on their ultimate ranking on the show. Carrie, Kelly, Cook, Daughtry, Archuleta, Kellie Pickler, Jennifer Hudson, etc.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬'all of them are marketable in their own way, with or without an à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“AI boost.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Even Clay is marketable in a Josh Groban-type way. But you have contestants like Chikezie (who I love, btw, so this is not meant as a diss), that I think would be difficult to market in the mainstream (even R&B) at this point in time. Maybe in the subgenre of soul or in adult contemporary, but mainstream R&B is made up with a lot of younger-skewing male artists, and Chikezie is a bit old-school. When Simon used to talk about the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“X factorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  way back before he actually named a show that, I think he was referring to traits that particular contestants have that would allow them to be ultra-successful in the music industry right at that moment. Some have it, most donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t.</blockquote> I think this assessment certainly holds merit, but from what I know of Kelly Clarkson, she was pounding the pavement out in LA pretty hard trying to get a record deal and had no luck before Idol. Perhaps it has something to do with novelty of the show being so new, so there was more excitement behind the star that would come from it. I mean I think she has the X factor in spades and she certainly showed it on the show. The show allowed fans to get see her personality beyond just hearing her great voice. I think that really gave her the boost she needed. And I think that is what the show was intended to do but somehow has gotten lost as more seasons go by. So the longer the show stays on the air, the harder it seems it is for people to capitalize the way Kelly and few others have.

I think the former contestants and winners that are successful outside of Idol (be it in their particular genre, or overall mega-successful) are the ones that would have been successful if they had gotten the same record deal without Idolà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’AI was really just a means to get that deal, and not some sort of indicator of success based on their ultimate ranking on the show.

Carrie, Kelly, Cook, Daughtry, Archuleta, Kellie Pickler, Jennifer Hudson, etc.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’all of them are marketable in their own way, with or without an à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“AI boost.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Even Clay is marketable in a Josh Groban-type way. But you have contestants like Chikezie (who I love, btw, so this is not meant as a diss), that I think would be difficult to market in the mainstream (even R&B) at this point in time. Maybe in the subgenre of soul or in adult contemporary, but mainstream R&B is made up with a lot of younger-skewing male artists, and Chikezie is a bit old-school. When Simon used to talk about the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“X factorà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  way back before he actually named a show that, I think he was referring to traits that particular contestants have that would allow them to be ultra-successful in the music industry right at that moment. Some have it, most donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t.

I think this assessment certainly holds merit, but from what I know of Kelly Clarkson, she was pounding the pavement out in LA pretty hard trying to get a record deal and had no luck before Idol. Perhaps it has something to do with novelty of the show being so new, so there was more excitement behind the star that would come from it. I mean I think she has the X factor in spades and she certainly showed it on the show. The show allowed fans to get see her personality beyond just hearing her great voice. I think that really gave her the boost she needed. And I think that is what the show was intended to do but somehow has gotten lost as more seasons go by. So the longer the show stays on the air, the harder it seems it is for people to capitalize the way Kelly and few others have.

]]> By: Connie D. http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170808 Connie D. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:28:01 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170808 They are all talented, but I think David H. has impressed me the most for this tour. I love these little after-Idol tours. A couple of years ago, Ruben took a group out on tour, mostly in Texas, if I recall correctly. Anyway, I went to the show at the Beaumont TX Civic Center. Good show, and they were only singing with backing tracks and guitars. It was only a week after Anthony Fedorov's brother passed away. Whoa - I had no idea Anthony was so talented. Big surprise. Especially in Spanish. Why isn't this guy a huge Spanish-language star? I brought my co-worker, male Hispanic. He was quite impressed with Anthony. Justin Guarini was the stand-out for me. He was totally "on", just wonderful. For some reason, Ruben let Justin close the show that night. And close it he did, like a star. A person couldn't help but feel good, watching Justin dancing and enjoying himself so much. I will support any future post-season shows. I definitely got my money's worth out of the one I saw with Ruben headlining. Ruben is a cute dancer. They are all talented, but I think David H. has impressed me the most for this tour.

I love these little after-Idol tours. A couple of years ago, Ruben took a group out on tour, mostly in Texas, if I recall correctly. Anyway, I went to the show at the Beaumont TX Civic Center. Good show, and they were only singing with backing tracks and guitars.

It was only a week after Anthony Fedorov’s brother passed away. Whoa – I had no idea Anthony was so talented. Big surprise. Especially in Spanish. Why isn’t this guy a huge Spanish-language star? I brought my co-worker, male Hispanic. He was quite impressed with Anthony.

Justin Guarini was the stand-out for me. He was totally “on”, just wonderful. For some reason, Ruben let Justin close the show that night. And close it he did, like a star. A person couldn’t help but feel good, watching Justin dancing and enjoying himself so much.

I will support any future post-season shows. I definitely got my money’s worth out of the one I saw with Ruben headlining. Ruben is a cute dancer.

]]> By: JOJOSIE http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170803 JOJOSIE Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:19:55 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170803 I read an article where Georg Huff said he'd made over $100,000 every year since he was on Idol and that was more than he could make doing anything else so he was happy. Sucess to some means having a job that you love and it supports you. I'm sure most of the Idol contestants are better off finacially than they were before even tho they are not "stars" IMO. I read an article where Georg Huff said he’d made over $100,000 every year since he was on Idol and that was more than he could make doing anything else so he was happy. Sucess to some means having a job that you love and it supports you. I’m sure most of the Idol contestants are better off finacially than they were before even tho they are not “stars” IMO.

]]> By: LK08 http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170801 LK08 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:17:31 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170801 Chikezie is doing "Ain't Misbehavin" a touring show. I saw it advertised in my area this year. Oops that's Ruben Studdard, not Chikezie. Chikezie is doing “Ain’t Misbehavin” a touring show. I saw it advertised in my area this year.

Oops that’s Ruben Studdard, not Chikezie.

]]> By: leome http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170798 leome Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:09:15 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170798 Regarding contestants like Hernandez and Chikezie, if people didn't care about them during the show (they couldn't even build a fanbase) why would they care after the show? I think they have great voices and all, but that is not enough to sell songs and sell tickets. Besides the winner, and in a few cases the runner up, people won't remember the rest of the group one month after the show. It's just TV. I would never pay to see those 4, and I would never buy a CD with songs by people I don't even remember. And I would say I'm like what one would call an hardcore AI fan. But show is over and people forget them. Unless those concerts and album have really low costs producing, I don't see how they make money out of it and why they'd keep doing it. I would love to see some kind of TV documentary telling us what happened to all those contestants who were on Idol, just to see where they ended up to, how they took diferent paths, what worked better, what didn't work... Some end up on TV or Broadway, which is not that bad, at least it's a way to keep your name out there, somehow and gives a chance to try to strike again. Regarding contestants like Hernandez and Chikezie, if people didn’t care about them during the show (they couldn’t even build a fanbase) why would they care after the show? I think they have great voices and all, but that is not enough to sell songs and sell tickets. Besides the winner, and in a few cases the runner up, people won’t remember the rest of the group one month after the show. It’s just TV.
I would never pay to see those 4, and I would never buy a CD with songs by people I don’t even remember. And I would say I’m like what one would call an hardcore AI fan. But show is over and people forget them.
Unless those concerts and album have really low costs producing, I don’t see how they make money out of it and why they’d keep doing it.

I would love to see some kind of TV documentary telling us what happened to all those contestants who were on Idol, just to see where they ended up to, how they took diferent paths, what worked better, what didn’t work…
Some end up on TV or Broadway, which is not that bad, at least it’s a way to keep your name out there, somehow and gives a chance to try to strike again.

]]> By: houstonrufus http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170791 houstonrufus Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:50:14 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170791 I like the idea that success can be measured in different ways. Someone who sets out to be a singer and makes a living at it certainly is a success in my book. I don't think the industry or the media sees it that way, unfortunately. I also agree that for most people, AI is a TV show. I was struck by my family over Thanksgiving, for example. They were huge, huge supporters of one of the contestants from this past season. But their interest has now waned and they eagerly await the coming season. In other words, the show itself is the thing for them, not the music or what comes after. And don't think the producers aren't aware that that is more common than not. I like the idea that success can be measured in different ways. Someone who sets out to be a singer and makes a living at it certainly is a success in my book. I don’t think the industry or the media sees it that way, unfortunately.

I also agree that for most people, AI is a TV show. I was struck by my family over Thanksgiving, for example. They were huge, huge supporters of one of the contestants from this past season. But their interest has now waned and they eagerly await the coming season. In other words, the show itself is the thing for them, not the music or what comes after. And don’t think the producers aren’t aware that that is more common than not.

]]> By: LK08 http://www.mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm/comment-page-1/#comment-170790 LK08 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:49:58 +0000 http://mjsbigblog.com/american-stars-in-concert-for-the-holidays-videos-and-pictures.htm#comment-170790 <blockquote>I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fair to say that this isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t exactly a great economy right now for launching tours like this. Especially with 50 dollar tickets. So Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not going to hate on them just because the shows havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sold out.</blockquote> I don't think most people are hating on these people. I just think that if they can't sustain great sales because they don't have that huge fanbase and the "it" factor, no one in the industry will give them a chance. Sad, but you have to bring in money to get promoted.

I think ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fair to say that this isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t exactly a great economy right now for launching tours like this. Especially with 50 dollar tickets. So Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not going to hate on them just because the shows havenà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t sold out.

I don’t think most people are hating on these people. I just think that if they can’t sustain great sales because they don’t have that huge fanbase and the “it” factor, no one in the industry will give them a chance. Sad, but you have to bring in money to get promoted.

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