American Idols Tour 2011 – Everett WA – Videos Live Blog


Photo: @seeinstereo_ More photos HERE, lunachix1

I’ll be live-blogging tonight’s American Idols Live concert in Everett WA.

Welcome home, Stefano Langone!

Check out the set list HERE.

Our Kirsten is there tonight, so LOOK out for her recap and photos tomorrow!

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The Girls – Born This Way (HQ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oWfgvoeVF4

Pia & Stefano – California King Bed (HQ)

Paul McDonald – Maggie May

Grenade

DJ Got Us Falling In Love Again

Boys w/o Scotty – Animal

Naima – On the Floor

Lauren & Pia and Thia – Firework (HQ)

Casey Abrams – Harder to Breathe

Forget You

Lauren Alaina – Flat on the Floor

Sweet Child of Mine – James

James Durbin – Uprising

Jacob Lusk – Never Too Much

Jacob Lusk – You’re All I Need to Get By

Haley Reinhart – Bennie and the Jets (HQ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMfsDePEVmQ

Haley Reinhart – House of the Rising Sun

If I Die Young

Scotty and Lauren – When You Say Nothing At All

Scotty McCreery – I Love You This Big

Scotty – Your Man (HQ)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2eytT5cYzw

Are You Going to Kiss Me Or Not

Gone

Finale

  • SajiNoKami

    oh cool! I was wondering if all the shows will be blogged.

  • Desdemona

    I’m bracing for the Pia show.

  • dy77

    Those two ladies are friends of mine. They’ve been giving good tweet for about an hour of the show. Season 8 videos got some love and they stopped by the merch table. Here are some earlier tweets:

    mylifeback random krisbert
    LLWD!!!! This venue knows what’s up, yo.
    9 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    shoshpd Shoshana
    LLWD video on the big screen! yfrog.com/keylmpgj
    10 minutes ago

    shoshpd Shoshana
    Our view! yfrog.com/kiyaecrj
    9 minutes ago

    mylifeback random krisbert
    Awesome venue!!!! So much better than the Tacoma dome!! Thank you TPTB. http://twitpic.com/5n9uow
    10 minutes ago

    mylifeback random krisbert
    In our seats!!! Had an awesome dinner & drinks beforehand with Kirsten from MJ’s. Love her!
    12 minutes ago

    seeinstereo_ Brandy
    They are playing @adamlambert at the Idol preshow!!!
    15 minutes ago

    kyyleighh Kyleigh Floyd
    Theyre playing If I Had You….OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG I FREAKED OUT…..

    mylifeback random krisbert
    Lmao programs are $25. Um NO THANK YOU, not even for #McLaina
    21 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    shoshpd Shoshana
    Merch! Lauren’s shirt is the pink one. yfrog.com/kkxh0ykj
    22 minutes ago

    CelinaCypher Celina Cypher
    @
    @SMcCreeryAI10 standing in a two block long line can’t wait for ya’ll:-) twitpic.com/5n9p9e
    22 minutes ago

    mylifeback random krisbert
    Merch. I’m only seeing top 2 & group shirts. http://twitpic.com/5n9ocw

  • flyaway

    I’m only seeing top 2 & group shirts

    What? No Pia Pageant Pose?

    Okay, maybe a little early to start on the snarkiness – sorry – sort of.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    oh cool! I was wondering if all the shows will be blogged.

    I’m going to blog the first week at least.

  • Lucy1234

    Should be hearing lots of tweets about Lauren, Haley and Scotty since one of the tweeters seems to be a Lauren and Scotty fan and the other a Haley fan. I love reading the live tweeting blogs – thanks MJ for doing that for us.

  • halo9125

    MJ if anybody still cares by then I’ll tweet from the NY show.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    In our seats!!! Had an awesome dinner & drinks beforehand with Kirsten from MJ’s. Love her!

    WE ALL LOVE HER!

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    MJ if anybody still cares by then I’ll tweet from the NY show.

    My show is really late in the tour too. :)

  • Lucy1234

    Paul seems to do a great job of getting the crowd on their feet. He is quite a showman.

  • Lucy1234

    Crowd is loving the hometown boy tonight.

  • Pam

    ooh! Hope Kirsten has fun. Can’t wait for her recap! :)

  • phil25

    I’m glad to see that Stefano is getting support tonight : )

    Stefano has like three hometown shows, though. I think he was originally from the San Fran area, so he should have support in Oakland and San Jose too.

  • dy77

    Should be hearing lots of tweets about Lauren, Haley and Scotty since one of the tweeters seems to be a Lauren and Scotty fan and the other a Haley fan.

    Mylifeback has been given strict instructions by me not to leave there without getting tons of McLaina pics, gossip and a #THISBIG hug from both of them.

  • Pippygirl

    I’m sure Kirsten’s recap of the show will be more entertaining than the actual show!

  • SajiNoKami

    mylifeback: So far the crowd is responding with enthusiasm you would expect for each one based on order of finish of Idol.

    well gee, imagine that. lol, how did the tour organizer not understand that would happen is beyond me.

  • JudyOhio

    I hear this show is sold out, how many would that be in attendance?

  • Lucy1234

    There was also a tweet that the crowd was seated during Pia’s performance of her new single.

  • chearts77

    I can’t wait to read Kirsten’s review!! That should be entertaining!!

  • SajiNoKami

    … i get if people don’t want to stand during the lack of tempo numbers.. but if it’s high energy… I know I am standing during James’ set. Sounds like Paul and Casey have numbers to stand thru too.. XD

  • McCreerian

    Good to see another good turn out. Are the venues smaller this year compared to last year or is the tour just having a stronger interest? Weren’t they even giving away $10 tickets last year? Or was it $20? Either way it’s kinda sad that people weren’t even interested in cheap tickets.

  • phil25

    Responding to the post that people were sitting during Pia’s single…

    It’s clear that hardcore Idol fans don’t like Pia so I don’t know why she’s so prominent in the tour show. Idol tour goers want guys, not Haley, Thia, and Pia, so I agree that the set list is a little strange.

    I think the record label is banking on the casual fans who seemed to love Pia. Casual fans however have likely forgotten about her by now, and won’t attend the tour, so they will have to push her single for it to sell. Because of that, I see poor sales for her single in the early going. I hope she sells though because she’s my favorite from the season ; ), and I don’t think that song is terrible compared to what else is on Pop radio now.

  • HR

    I like Pia. I’m not convinced I like that song.

  • Susan

    Are the venues smaller this year compared to last year or is the tour just having a stronger interest?

    Smaller venues, or some of the seats are blocked off. They’re barely using more than half the arena in St. Louis.

  • Trina

    LOL my friend said James got more screams in the few seconds he first appeared than Pia has got all night so far. Lame.

    My friend there is a Haley fan so she has no problems with the girls but she said Pia is too dull for the amount of time she gets and isn’t getting a big reaction at all. I like Pia, but yeah shoving her down the throats of Idol fans isn’t going to help her IMO.

  • tomk

    It’s clear that hardcore Idol fans don’t like Pia so I don’t know why she’s so prominent in the tour show. Idol tour goers want guys, not Haley, Thia, and Pia, so I agree that the set list is a little strange.

    It seems that Haley is getting some reaction though – at least from the videos posted in SLC.
    I was at an Idol concert a few years ago, and there is no doubt about it – it is a mother/daughter bonding experience and they do love their guys. But girls also *can* capture the crowd’s enthusiasm. It’s not impossible – it does take some moxie though.

    and I don’t think that song is terrible compared to what else is on Pop radio now.

    It’s not terrible compared to some of the stuff on Pop Radio right now – but some would say that is not a huge compliment. I am not even sure if it is a song that really appeals to what we hear on Pop Radio right now.
    Part of me wishes they would take this song and put it through a shredder and try something else. That won’t happen of course – and perhaps it will catch on. But it is my opinion that Pia is better than the song….and I don’t think Pia is yet at the point where she can take a song like this and make people like it.
    But obviously, Interscope has different plans and is going to force people to like it. Heck, I have no idea – the plan will probably work.

  • phil25

    My friend there is a Haley fan so she has no problems with the girls but she said Pia is too dull for the amount of time she gets and isn’t getting a big reaction at all. I like Pia, but yeah shoving her down the throats of Idol fans isn’t going to help her IMO.

    I agree with you. I think Empire State of Mind was a bad choice. She should have done a ballad so she could wow, or have done a song with backups, so she could interact with other contestants. Without that, she looks lost on stage during midtempo/uptempo numbers IMO. From what I gather, her best reaction came when she performed with Stefano. Regardless, I hope she does well. I think very few people from the last few seasons can touch her vocally.

  • SajiNoKami

    I like Pia, but yeah shoving her down the throats of Idol fans isn’t going to help her IMO.

    IA. I’ll be there mainly for James and Scotty, but I enjoy Haley, Lauren and the others too. I don’t mind her, But too much of Pia, will get old.

  • http://twitter.com/lindsav adamland

    Happy James is getting this type of reaction so far. Audience in the first two concerts sticking it to Jimmy and Nigel’s machinations.

    I’ll be going to see James and Lauren and hope Scotty is good.

  • girlygirl

    the people on my feed who are at tonight’s show say that the crowd is going crazy for James right now

  • Trina

    The crowd is completely freaking out for James. People are screaming, shrieking, singing along, standing, clapping..good job giving him like 10 minute of stage time! *flips bird to TPTB* cough.

  • http://MJO judes

    adamland says:
    07/09/2011 at 12:01 am

    Happy James is getting this type of reaction so far. Audience in the first two concerts sticking it to Jimmy and Nigel’s machinations.

    Yes its so good-TPTB might not like to admit it but idol crowds always go crazy for the guys at idol concerts . I am so glad James, Paul & Stephano are receiving the love they should as they are very entertaining performers. Just because you put someone on more times in a show doesn’t mean the crowd is going to react differently- you can’t manufacture enjoyment of a person’s performance.

  • girlygirl

    It doesn’t appear, at least from the reports from these 1st two Idol shows, that Pia’s single is getting anything more than a tepid reaction. So the label may be disappointed if they are counting on huge sales from the Idol core fanbase when this song drops next week.

  • http://twitter.com/lindsav adamland

    Judes I agree. James does entertain and so do Paul and Stefano, I liked Pia but not so sure I will after my concert next Friday. All Pia 80% of the time will be waaaay too much.

  • girlygirl

    It seems like the group songs are all getting good reviews, especially in terms of how they are harmonizing.

    Jacob also seems to have gotten a very enthusiastic response to his short set

  • Ratna12

    I’m sure Kirsten’s recap of the show will be more entertaining than the actual show!

    :D She was on fire Wednesday night.
    I can’t wait what she will write and her live impression of Pia.

  • songsungblue

    Omg scotty’s strong ass country voice makes me wanna slit my wrists

    Heh! TWEET OF THE NIGHT!

  • phil25

    I can’t wait for the east coast shows to hear what MJ, and Slezak, and Cantiello have to say. I always respect their opinions when it comes to Idol (although we know this year will be somewhat of a Haley lovefest from two of these reviewers)

  • lili_anne7

    I just finished reading through the tweets, they are hilarious! Poor Pia, I *almost* feel sorry for her, but next time TPTB should realize that a contestant that came in 9th place is NOT more popular than say someone who came in 4th place, so she shouldn’t get more songs to perform. Anyway, it seems like the boys are getting more cheers, especially James and Scotty, which is expected.

  • CRB

    Trina says:
    07/08/2011 at 11:46 pm

    LOL my friend said James got more screams in the few seconds he first appeared than Pia has got all night so far. Lame.

    My friend there is a Haley fan so she has no problems with the girls but she said Pia is too dull for the amount of time she gets and isn’t getting a big reaction at all. I like Pia, but yeah shoving her down the throats of Idol fans isn’t going to help her IMO.

    I’m guessing that Pia is going to be the Kristie Lee Cook of this tour. Pushed hard by TPTB and soundly rejected by the masses.

  • mzbet

    I have to give @mylifeback and @shoshpd props for the great running commentary for tonight’s show! They’re “grade A” tweeters :)

  • lili_anne7

    I have to give @mylifeback and @shoshpd props for the great running commentary for tonight’s show! They’re “grade A” tweeters

    Yes! ITA! Their tweets were very entertaining.

  • tomk

    I agree with you. I think Empire State of Mind was a bad choice. She should have done a ballad so she could wow, or have done a song with backups, so she could interact with other contestants. Without that, she looks lost on stage during midtempo/uptempo numbers IMO.

    Hmmmm..I wonder if not doing a song from Idol itself is also hurting her a bit – every Idol fan knows “I’ll Stand By You” – a signature moment in Top 24. But she’s doing two songs she did not do on Idol, and is seemingly not getting a huge reaction. Meanwhile, Haley is getting two of her Idol crowd pleasers to perform (and it doesn’t hurt that she is leading into Scotty). As others have said, sometimes the Idol audience wants to hear what got them “into” a contestant in the first place – new material can come later. (And I am on the record as wanting Haley to do something different – but perhaps that really isn’t a smart idea)

  • SajiNoKami

    PMcDonaldAI10
    Hanging in the greenroom after the gig…good times in Washington. Killer crowd tonight! http://lockerz.com/s/118399758

    they look like a nap is in the future

  • Ratna12

    mylifeback :@KrisAllen hurry with the new music, my eye is wandering!

    LOL, patience !

    I have to give @mylifeback and @shoshpd props for the great running commentary for tonight’s show! They’re “grade A” tweeters

    Absolutely agree.

  • xxe

    I have to give @mylifeback and @shoshpd props for the great running commentary for tonight’s show! They’re “grade A” tweeters

    I’m cracking up at their tweets.. best tweets ever.. very entertaining indeed..

  • larc

    SajiNoKami says:
    they look like a nap is in the future

    I hope they can sleep on the bus with no problems. They have a 200-mile bus ride to Portland ahead of them.

  • http://www.kellydeanhansen.com MahlerFan

    IMO, the only reason there’s so much backlash about Pia is because people don’t believe a 9th-place finisher should have gotten an original song while nobody from 3-8 did. That’s the only thing that bugs me, but I’m quickly over it. Tour sounds fun, hope I can find a way to go to KC–long drive from Denver, trying to decide if it’s worth it.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Reminder:

    You can’t come in here to lecture and tell people off!

    READ MY GUIDELINES. If you don’t follow them, I delete your comment. Keep it up, and I ban you.

    http://mjsbigblog.com/idol-appearances/guidelines

  • argie

    Yes its so good-TPTB might not like to admit it but idol crowds always go crazy for the guys at idol concerts . I am so glad James, Paul & Stephano are receiving the love they should as they are very entertaining performers.

    And this is what will forever frustrate me about this show. For this I feel like all the girls that have gone on the Idol tour should receive kudos. Don’t worry girls!! You’re not receiving less love because you’re less talented… it’s only cause you’re not a guy!!

  • allstar

    Wasn’t lecturing. Just stating facts. Everyone was complaining about Pia being featured in the Idol tour show. She’s just not. I thought I explained that quite well.

  • Trina

    But its not a matter of girls in general getting less love, from all the reports Lauren and Haley are doing just fine with crowd reaction, fans love them. Its Pia, especially her single that’s getting a meh reaction.

  • SajiNoKami

    hmm, been pondering: maybe TPTB should have a season of just female contestants, since it appears guys are favored if it is mixed.

  • allstar

    Yes its so good-TPTB might not like to admit it but idol crowds always go crazy for the guys at idol concerts . I am so glad James, Paul & Stephano are receiving the love they should as they are very entertaining performers.

    that’s because it’s mostly girls who go to the AI concerts. Most guys I know (even if they’re idol fans) wouldn’t be caught dead at one of the concerts! There are some guys there, but if you’ve ever been, you know it’s most girls. And girls generally favor the guy contestants.

  • jt620

    Ban from commenting and/or reading the blog?

  • YeahRight

    Trina says:

    The crowd is completely freaking out for James. People are screaming, shrieking, singing along, standing, clapping..good job giving him like 10 minute of stage time! *flips bird to TPTB* cough.

    Yeah, but will that lead to album sales?

    girlygirl says:

    Jacob also seems to have gotten a very enthusiastic response to his short set

    That’s nice. With all the hate that was spewed toward him throughout the season, thought he would come out to boos or crickets or bottles being thrown at him.

  • SajiNoKami
    Trina says:
    The crowd is completely freaking out for James. People are screaming, shrieking, singing along, standing, clapping..good job giving him like 10 minute of stage time! *flips bird to TPTB* cough.

    YeahRight says: Yeah, but will that lead to album sales?

    oh I hope so. XD

  • jt620

    James Durbin is overrated. I think people were screaming and shrieking in order to get him off the stage.

  • allstar

    The crowd is completely freaking out for James. People are screaming, shrieking, singing along, standing, clapping..good job giving him like 10 minute of stage time! *flips bird to TPTB* cough.

    Just wait till they go to LA and NY…you won’t find that same enthusiasm. Seattle is a HUGE rocker town. Plus, if I were one of the powers that be, I wouldn’t really waste much time promoting James. I’d be surprised if he signs a record deal. If he does, he won’t resonate with anyone except for his Idol fans. He has no widespread appeal…especially if you consider the direction he wants to go in as an artist. So don’t sweat it :)

  • lili_anne7

    Yeah, but will that lead to album sales?

    Nope it does not. Last year, Lee was getting the most cheers by far, but that did not translate into big album sales, granted there were not as many people at the shows. This year, the only person I’m confident will have decent album sales is Scotty. The others will need radio hits to push their album sales. In Pia’s case, I’m not sure “This Time” will become a hit, IMO the song is pretty generic. Then again, it does sound like something Jordin Sparks would record, and she’s had several hits, so it could do well.

  • lili_anne7

    Just wait till they go to LA and NY…you won’t find that same enthusiasm.

    I don’t think so. My guess is James and Scotty will be the two most popular throughout the whole tour, regardless of the city where they are performing.

  • jammasta

    Omg scotty’s strong ass country voice makes me wanna slit my wrists

    This sounds like both a good thing and a bad thing. I lol’d.

    But GOD DAMN someone staple the bottom of Stefano’s shirt to his belt before I call him a GIRLY MAN and elevate his estrogen levels to make him a female.

    Or tell Pia to take hers off too, might make up for Stefano lifting his shirt and Pia being there for too many songs in the first set :P.

  • Trina

    Not saying it will lead to album sales. I’ve been to enough Idol shows to know the two aren’t mutual to each other. Just pointing it out since he’s getting a bigger reaction than someone that left a lot earlier than he did and someone given a lot more stage time. There was also reports there were tons of signs for him..so just as far as the tour goes, yep I’m glad he’s getting a strong response. And as someone said earlier, the response seemed to go along with the order they finished on the show. Jacob got a loud response too and he seems to be working the crowd well.

  • Ratna12

    I think that Haley and Lauren especially got great response from the audience. Of course, a big portion of the idol tour audience are women / girls, so make sense that the big cheers are usually for the guys. And I guess with Stefano there, there will be nightly strip show too.

    I’m really happy that both the country kids , Scotty and Lauren got big cheers, just wait till the tour goes to the South.

  • SajiNoKami

    Plus, if I were one of the powers that be, I wouldn’t really waste much time promoting James. I’d be surprised if he signs a record deal.

    I really hope tbtb give him a shot.

  • indigoimrah

    I don’t get the excitement over guys this season, they are average singer at best and lets not kid ourselves with the sex appeal or hotness about any one of them. Scottie is young and somewhat cute but very likable guy so that is all I can brag about out of all the guys. Paul is very likable guy and better looking in the bunch but he is engaged(taken) but then again Kris Allen was married and that did’t stopped girls swooning over him. Stefano is likable guy but does not connect with the crowd well. James Durbin? well I don’t have anything to say about him.

  • CSFan

    I’ve learned not to judge future potential based on AI tour reactions. Once the moms and daughters quit screaming from the tour audience they often forget to buy the cd, as people like Lee, Michael Johns, and Ace Young can confirm.

  • SajiNoKami

    I don’t get the excitement over guys this season, they are average singer at best and lets not kid ourselves with the sex appeal or hotness about any one of them.

    For me, when I voted, it was about the albums I wanted and the general vibe they gave off. Sex appeal, I have no interest in. Thought Paul was the decent looking one in this group, he seems very photogenic.

  • washpd

    Hey everyone! I’m @shoshpd from twitter. I just got home and I’m beat, so I’ll just drop a quick comment here, and then try to stop in tomorrow for more details. I pretty much said it all on twitter, but, I can probably be a little more coherent in more than 140 characters.

    Anyway, overall, the show was really fun and highly entertaining. I enjoyed the format a lot. I did not think there were too many group numbers at all. I kind of loved having the various Idols sing backup for each other’s songs. Pretty much everyone sounded better live than they did on the show. Most of them did a fantastic job with their energy level on stage and really working the crowd.

    The best part for me was that I really enjoyed many of the contestants that I had little opinion one way or the other about on the show, and even some that I downright hated. I wasn’t a fan of Paul, Stefano, Jacob, or Casey on the show, but all four sounded great and were tons of fun in concert. Mostly, I would recommend anyone who is going to a show to go in with an open mind and be ready to have fun. If you just let yourself go with it, it is thoroughly enjoyable and well worth the ticket price.

  • http://MJO judes

    Thanks washpd for coming on here to tell us some of your thoughts . Thanks also for being so informative & fun on twitter during the concert. Glad you had a great time.

  • tomk

    that’s because it’s mostly girls who go to the AI concerts. Most guys I know (even if they’re idol fans) wouldn’t be caught dead at one of the concerts! There are some guys there, but if you’ve ever been, you know it’s most girls. And girls generally favor the guy contestants.

    Yes they do – though I do think the females who vote for Idol are the most likely to be the ones who buy tickets for Idol. And that’s why I think girls who finish near the top naturally get strong reactions – they found a way to relate to the strong female fanbase on the show. Pia didn’t find that….I guess it would be interesting to find out exactly why that is.
    I always hear the same thing about Pia – “What an amazing voice!” And I agree with that sentiment 1,000%. But I have yet to hear “And what a performer!” or “And, wow – does the girl have a magnetic personality to go with it!” There is something to be said for sexy and reserved. But I don’t think it goes over well with music followers. They want a little sass – heck, they probably even want a little controversy. That may be sad to think about, but it comes down to more than just being able to hit a high note.
    We’ll see – the listening public out there may absolutely go crazy over her song. I am rooting for it because I really have no interest in seeing her flop and become a punchline to the Idol faithful. Plus, I think she is a genuinely sweet girl – perhaps a bit too sweet.

  • tomk

    For me, when I voted, it was about the albums I wanted and the general vibe they gave off. Sex appeal, I have no interest in. Thought Paul was the decent looking one in this group, he seems very photogenic.

    I agree with this sentiment – why vote based on sex appeal? If you find any contestant to be sexy, do a Google Images search and you can look at them all day :) It comes down to the sound for me…and yes, overall “vibe” does factor in. A few contestants hit the “bullseye” for me in S10…and it is because I would love to hear them do original music.

  • http://MJO judes

    For me, when I voted, it was about the albums I wanted and the general vibe they gave off. Sex appeal, I have no interest in. Thought Paul was the decent looking one in this group, he seems very photogenic.

    I agree. I have never bought music based on an artists looks [of course its a bonus if they do look good but it doesn't sway my thinking]otherwise I would never have bought any Elton John or Billy Joel music. To me its totally about the singing & music which is what I hear on my ipod. At the idol concert it also helps if the idol is entertaining as well.

  • http://www.kellydeanhansen.com MahlerFan

    Not saying it will lead to album sales. I’ve been to enough Idol shows to know the two aren’t mutual to each other. Just pointing it out since he’s getting a bigger reaction than someone that left a lot earlier than he did and someone given a lot more stage time. There was also reports there were tons of signs for him..so just as far as the tour goes, yep I’m glad he’s getting a strong response. And as someone said earlier, the response seemed to go along with the order they finished on the show. Jacob got a loud response too and he seems to be working the crowd well.

    Well, the video of “Moanin’ ” from SLC seems to suggest that people were screaming for Haley even before Casey finished his opening–which was kind of funny given they presented it pretty much the way they did in the in-show performance. But people heard the opening of that song and were genuinely excited for her to come out on stage again. And I don’t think it was just because of her legs.

    I wonder how much of this is being observed by Jimmy I. and his team. They’re not going to question their signing of Pia yet, if at all, but watching the reactions to James and Haley, I’m hoping that their signings (which are alleged to be done deals anyway) are announced before long to tap into this–perhaps around the time of the LA show? I wouldn’t add any originals to the sets for either of them (well, maybe James–Haley has got enough to do), but announcing the signings at this point really couldn’t be a bad thing.

  • jpfan

    The applause meter is back. If only all the screams equated to music sales. Sadly they do not. As far as I can tell the IDOL TOUR means little. It will be all about the original music and the ones who can cnnect to a genre.

  • SajiNoKami

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L414eUuJ4Js
    Guys w/o Scotty- “Animal” by Neon Trees
    …people are screaming so loud some of the sing is drowned out.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I agree with you. I think Empire State of Mind was a bad choice.

    I’m sure that song was chosen because Pia is from NYC and it should be received well in the concerts there.

    Or tell Pia to take hers off too, might make up for Stefano lifting his shirt and Pia being there for too many songs in the first set

    lol Stefano doesn’t just lift his shirt, he takes it off! You can see his nekkid upper body on the jumbotron at the end of this video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Bk5qTP-_s

    And I guess with Stefano there, there will be nightly strip show too.

    lol I just hope that Stefano doesn’t go any further than taking off his shirt. ;)

    I wonder how much of this is being observed by Jimmy I. and his team. They’re not going to question their signing of Pia yet, if at all, but watching the reactions to James and Haley, I’m hoping that their signings (which are alleged to be done deals anyway) are announced before long to tap into this–perhaps around the time of the LA show? I wouldn’t add any originals to the sets for either of them (well, maybe James–Haley has got enough to do), but announcing the signings at this point really couldn’t be a bad thing.

    I’m sure that reports are being made to Jimmy about the shows, but there were a number of articles announcing Pia’s new song, and the main concern is launching that song for radioplay. As others have already posted, the reaction to Idols during the tour can be misleading and not representative of their potential overall appeal to the non-Idol public. I’m a casual fan of Pia’s, and agree with a lot of the comments and criticisms about her performance abilities, but like tomk, I’m hoping that she does well. From everything that I’ve seen so far, Pia seems to be a nice person and I don’t blame her for taking advantage of whatever opportunities she gets.

    As for the crowd reaction to Haley and James being influential in Jimmy signing them, it could be a plus, but I think that it’s only part of what goes into Jimmy/the label’s decisions.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Just wait till they go to LA and NY…you won’t find that same enthusiasm. Seattle is a HUGE rocker town. Plus, if I were one of the powers that be, I wouldn’t really waste much time promoting James. I’d be surprised if he signs a record deal. If he does, he won’t resonate with anyone except for his Idol fans. He has no widespread appeal…especially if you consider the direction he wants to go in as an artist. So don’t sweat it

    I don’t think that the Idol tour shows anything other than what was seen on the show in regard to enthusiasm for the Idols. If anything, people may like some performers more than what they saw on the show, but essentially, the reception is the same as the order of elimination.

  • savgal

    Re: applause meters, I remember well the first Idols concert I attended. You would have thought Bo and Constantine were going to be the next big thing, and I felt sorry for poor Carrie having to follow Bo because the reaction was more subdued for her.

  • JoCeeisme

    Screams and shouts at an idol concert may not translate to record sales but it must be hell of a good to get them. I am so please James is getting a good reception, he deserves it along with the other 10 idols.

  • swish5

    I thought Naima was really great in Born this Way – and then she didn’t get to show herself by singing JLo’s song “On The Floor”. Was that in JLO’s contract also?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    It also doesn’t hurt the James tweeted to his followers to scream a lot. lol

    And so it begins! Salt Lake City! Maverick Center! Here we go! You better be the craziest crowd I’ve ever seen! Scream so loud I can’t hear! 2:30 PM Jul 6th via Twitter for iPhone

  • swish5

    I thought Laura did well with the Carrie Underwood’s song but she doesn’t fit well with Katy Perry’s Fireworks. Seems like the TPTB can’t decide what direction to take her (including her hair style and dress / boots).

  • Barometz02

    We saw James asking the audiences to cheer for him at the end of his performances every week during the competition. Of course he acts the same on tour. He walks through the audience, and he demands ‘more applause’ from the audience.

  • Allison

    Re: applause meters, I remember well the first Idols concert I attended. You would have thought Bo and Constantine were going to be the next big thing, and I felt sorry for poor Carrie having to follow Bo because the reaction was more subdued for her.

    S4 was my 2nd Idol concert tour and my venue had the same crazy reaction to Con and Bo. But overall that year’s format was bad. I much preferred the S2 and S5 formats with group numbers.

  • halo9125

    Its Pia, especially her single that’s getting a meh reaction.

    A new song would have to be really kick ass to get people on their feet screaming the first time they hear it. I have listened to it any number of times, and it does grow on you- and will reserve judgment until Monday when I hear the studio version.

    As far as Empire State of Mind goes- I actually had to go and listen to Alicia Keyes’ solo version on youtube because that, to me, is a song that you don’t recognize til the chorus. I found the intro on that kind of meh as well. I know Pia loves that song (honestly- I don’t know why ANYBODY loves that song) but I’m sure NY audiences will love it.

    I’m trying really hard to be objective (it’s hard, lol)- but I do think part of the Pia hatred comes from people’s perception that it all comes too easy to her. She blew everybody away with “I’ll Stand By You”, she always came across as polished, was pitch perfect the majority of the time, and gracious in criticism- then the shock boot and then this record deal. And I will agree with what another poster said- she is nice- and yes, it is possible to be too nice, which she is. I worry about that for her.

    At this point, if she stripped on the Idol concert stage, instead of applause and cheers people would ask “are they real?”

    OK, rant over lol (MJ I tried really really hard not to be preachy!)

  • Falfor

    James can sustain a note longer and higher than any of the other contestants this year, and be in key. The genre he is most interested in may be obsolete, but he will garner attention, admiration, compassion, and general curiosity because of his Tourette’s and Asperger’s. He may be high functioning, but he still has these and what he is doing is a signature for others who are prey to these 2 diseases.

  • koshka

    We saw James asking the audiences to cheer for him at the end of his performances every week during the competition. Of course he acts the same on tour. He walks through the audience, and he demands ‘more applause’ form the audience.

    I hope he and the rest of the unsigned crew are ready for when the audience stops…

  • Tess

    I don’t hate Pia…I don’t even know her, how could I hate her. Just because I am not enamored with her looks, her singing ability or her stage presence doesn’t mean that my emotions go any deeper than “amazement” that she is being given opportunities that I don’t think she is capable of turning into something special.

    Like any other person who wants to “make a living” by being a public figure, Pia needs to be capable of withstanding all sorts of verbal and written commentaries. It just comes with the territory when people are asked to spend their hard earned dollars supporting someone. And because someone in show-biz wouldn’t exist if people didn’t “support” them financially…the people laying out the money feel they have the right to “judge” the product being offered. This is just how the system works.

  • Falfor

    Koshka, probably not, but they are having fun now. What a roller coaster, huh. This may be his great moment for life, sort of a ‘I remember when’ time. Everyone needs one of those.

  • Mark

    James can sustain a note longer and higher than any of the other contestants this year, and be in key. The genre he is most interested in may be obsolete, but he will garner attention, admiration, compassion, and general curiosity because of his Tourette’s and Asperger’s. He may be high functioning, but he still has these and what he is doing is a signature for others who are prey to these 2 diseases.

    Aspies can be pretty identity-positive. Also, not necessarily in need of needing affirmation from a (rather mediocre) TV faux-rock singer, though that may be me talking as much as anything. Especially ones who actually aren’t always all that in key.

  • Mark

    I’m trying really hard to be objective (it’s hard, lol)- but I do think part of the Pia hatred comes from people’s perception that it all comes too easy to her. She blew everybody away with “I’ll Stand By You”, she always came across as polished, was pitch perfect the majority of the time, and gracious in criticism- then the shock boot and then this record deal. And I will agree with what another poster said- she is nice- and yes, it is possible to be too nice, which she is. I worry about that for her.

    Personally speaking, I just hate Mariah-like “sanging” bots because they make fundamentally mediocre music, show no true individuality on record, and can be unpleasant to listen to. That’s really where it ends.

  • satchvai

    These kids are having a blast! I’m so glad to see how tight they are as friends and I think that shows in how tight their harmonies have become. Glad to see some of the other contestants getting some love from the crowds that finished earlier in the comp as well.

  • koshka

    The genre he is most interested in may be obsolete, but he will garner attention, admiration, compassion, and general curiosity because of his Tourette’s and Asperger’s. He may be high functioning, but he still has these and what he is doing is a signature for others who are prey to these 2 diseases.

    Has James stated that he wants to be a “role model”? That is a huge burden to carry at this early in his career… besides, I’d think that he would want to be known for his music and admired for his music first before the issues that he has overcome.

    Personally speaking, I just hate Mariah-like “sanging” bots because they make fundamentally mediocre music, show no true individuality on record, and can be unpleasant to listen to. That’s really where it ends.

    ITA. I’m still interested to hear what the recorded version sounds like before completely dismissing it.

  • tawny

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Q1VB793Rs

    Scotty – ILYTB great audio / far back

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    I don’t think that the Idol tour shows anything other than what was seen on the show in regard to enthusiasm for the Idols. If anything, people may like some performers more than what they saw on the show, but essentially, the reception is the same as the order of elimination.

    I agree with this though and quite frankly this is exactly what I expected. James & Scotty are gonna rule the tour no matter how much TPTB pimp Pia. If they think that this over pimping is gonna make her more popular than she was before they are sorely mistaken. Jacob was less popular at SLC than at Seattle. I don’t know whether that’s down to him having more support in Seattle or whether he upped his game but I think it’s probably a bit of both. While Haley & Lauren’s reception doesn’t compare with James & Scotty, I think their popularity will grow because they at least know how to perform, especially Haley. Paul & Stefano are also is major crowd pleasers because they’re very entertaining onstage. Paul for his goofiness and Stefano for his sex appeal, thanks to this their popularity is growing.

  • Falfor

    Tess, you took the words out of my mouth, expressing what I was thinking probably better than I could. What seems like hate for Pia, is more of a backlash at TPTB for what they are trying to do. She would be better off if what she wants comes to her more naturally and slowly, instead of what everyone dislikes, feeling force. In Pia’s case, she needs to learn from the honest criticism, work on what she is lacking, and ignore or fix what people make fun of. This whole thing is a learning experience for these kids. When I said 2 days ago, ‘She wants to get ahead so badly, she does not care who she has to step on to do so.’ IMO, from here, this is what it looks like. No, we don’t know these people, and this thought may have never entered their head, or they may be nothing like that, or maybe they are, but in this business, when one is trying to gather fans, perception is everything.

  • Tess

    but he will garner attention, admiration, compassion, and general curiosity because of his Tourette’s and Asperger’s.

    I can’t speak for James but I would hope that he (or his team) isn’t counting on the fact that his issues (for want of a better term) are his ticket towards a career. Thousands of people have the same challenges in life that James has and they don’t use them as a crutch to live dynamic, full and productive lives. Tourettes may have its disturbing (to some) social ramifications and Aspergers may have a conotation of “oddness”, but neither are debilitating or make a “sufferer” unable to function and function well in society. James should be judged in the music profession just as we would judge anyone else who wants to perform for the public.

    I don’t think Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles became famous because they were blind…they became famous because they could wail on a piano and sing like angels (with a lot of devilish charm). And I don’t really think anyone would say that they became a fan because the guys were blind, and I don’t think either guy would have used it as an excuse if they failed.

  • ituneit

    James can sustain a note longer and higher than any of the other contestants this year, and be in key.

    Totally disagree with this. James can never get through an entire song on key. When he does his shriek it’s not a Steven Tylor rocker whail it’s a cat got its tail stuck in a door shriek. Even before the tour the walking through the audience thing is getting so old

  • http://www.twilightslo.com Mateja

    Personally speaking, I just hate Mariah-like “sanging” bots because they make fundamentally mediocre music, show no true individuality on record, and can be unpleasant to listen to. That’s really where it ends.

    Well, I love “sanging” bots and I think Pia is one of the most talented contestants this season.

    Honestly, maybe Idol should just cast 24 guys every season from now on. Guys seem to be the only ones that can get any enthusiasm from the Idol fans and they are all artistic, individual and special in some way. Girls have no chance to win and their chances of high placement are also small, unless they can sing very well and are highly pimped from the audition round on.

    I don’t like the guys this year, except for Scotty, but even he isn’t my favorite. I’m happy that Pia’s role on tour is a little bigger than expected. Same for Thia. I would love if Haley had another song in her solo set.

  • Lexus

    Maybe I’m reading way too much into things because I only have the videos to refer to, but there seems to be something missing from the concerts. Is there any banter at all with the audience? I don’t even see the singers sticking around after their performance to take in the applause or acknowlede the audience whatsoever.

    From the videos I’ve seen, Scotty looks like he’s just going through the motions. He doesn’t really seem to be ‘there’. His set appears rushed and he looks (understandably) exhausted. If I didn’t know any different, I’d think he’d rather be anywhere but there. I was expecting a lot more interaction btw him and the fans and I’m just not seeing it. Hopefully those who have been there can shed some light.

  • Falfor

    Koshka, sadly, IMO whether James wants to be a role model, whether he is willing or not, he will be a token, to show others who have these diseases what they can do.
    And, Mark, ituneit, I digress,
    Touche, he was not always in key, but he did do well.

  • Mark

    Koshka, sadly, IMO whether James wants to be a role model, whether he is willing or not, he will be a token, to show others who have these diseases what they can do.

    Identity constructs are just that, I don’t need to presume limitation before validation by someone else. Especially not on the presumption that it is a disease that needs to be overcome, which isn’t the viewpoint many on the autism spectrum (like myself) share. And I don’t hold him to that standard, I judge his music just like everyone else’s, for better or worse.

    (Edited for clarity and accuracy)

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    We saw James asking the audiences to cheer for him at the end of his performances every week during the competition. Of course he acts the same on tour. He walks through the audience, and he demands ‘more applause’ form the audience.

    But that is how a professional performer behaves. James is acting no different to any major artist when they perform live. They all encourage or demand screaming and applause. They’re performing for their fans so they expect it. The crowd will respond the way they want to. If they love the performance they’ll stand, shout, throw hands in the air, jump around, ect. If they hate it they’ll boo, be silent or throw objects. Every major artist has been both cheered and booed. So far the crowds are loving James.

  • Ringo

    I think James’ voice is remarkable in a throw-back 80′s way. Not a big fan though. But I am a little annoyed at the singing off key meme we see so often. IMO, hitting a few bad notes is rock and roll, folks. Great rock singers can and do sing off key, that’s what makes it different from opera and beauty pagent singing. I only wished James’ voice were a little bit more distinctive, less derivative of the artists he has been forced (or chosen) to cover. I am conifident his fans will give him the freedom to express who he really is.

  • ross

    YeahRight says: Yeah, but will that lead to album sales?

    There isn’t very much that does lead to album sales, nowadays.

    I’ve read on this blog – it may be true, may not – that concerts are a big part of where artists are making up the difference. So if someone is a good live performer or an audience favorite, isn’t that better than not to be? All things being equal? I can’t see anything negative in it, I guess.

    The crowd will respond the way they want to.

    Yup.

  • ituneit

    Year after year on the Idol tours the boys get all the cheers but the girls go on to much greater success. Based on James, look , talent level and genre he’ll be lucky to get signed. Can’t see him going on to success. Scotty appears to be by far the Idol fav this year based on both audience reaction and the huge amount of votes he got. Scotty may go on to big things. As for Pia I doubt TPTB care about the opinion of the inner core of the Idol bubble but know she is highly marketable where as someone like James is highly unmarketable to the public at large. TPTB want someone who can break out of the bubble.

  • Grammie Kari

    I am a little late to the Pia discussion, but will admit that I looked at the set list and was surprised at all the stage appearances she has. I will be curious to see if the crowds appreciate her performances 10 days from now.

    but he will garner attention, admiration, compassion, and general curiosity because of his Tourette’s and Asperger’s.

    Thank you, Tess for your comments. I have asked this question but don’t think anyone knows. Is there anyone on the (medical) staff that works with James while on the tour? It seems to me that blindness would be similar to being in a wheelchair in that it wouldn’t affect an emotional response to a question. With James, it is sometimes like walking on an eggshell.

    Please understand, I do like him as a performer. I guess I don’t really know how to express my question.

  • Buffynut

    So if someone is a good live performer or an audience favorite, isn’t that better than not to be? All things being equal? I can’t see the negative in it, I guess.

    IMO, so true, Ross. I like someone who can entertain me. I like for the live version of their songs to be different than the CD. I like a show and I think stage presence is of the utmost importance. These are the criticisms I have a Pia. Good voice but none of the other things I mentioned. It’s not because she’s a girl, because I love Haley and Naima.
    I have to totally agree with whoever said it upthread, there isn’t a single guy in this year’s bunch that I find sexy or attractive.

  • Mike M

    I really hope tbtb give him (James) a shot.

    In the Brian Mansfield interview that MJ posted on another thread, James said he hoped to have his album out by the end of the tour. Now, that could just be James being James, assuming everything is going to go his way, but to feel he could have his album done by the end of the tour would seem to indicate there is some kind of deal in the works. He also made a point to say there were things he could not talk about, and right after that Lauren said something like, “I guess it’s OK for me to talk about it” and she went on to discuss recording her album. I really think James and Haley both have something going on, and Interscope is waiting for what they feel is the best time to announce it.

  • kmd

    If I go see the idols on their tour it would be to see Casey, James, and Haley. They just perform well to me. I think Stefano would also be funny to see with his no shirt routine.lol

  • koshka

    Mike M when what the Brian M interview?

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    I think James’ voice is remarkable in a throw-back 80?s way. Not a big fan though. But I am a little annoyed at the singing off key meme we see so often. IMO, hitting a few bad notes is rock and roll, folks. Great rock singers can and do sing off key, that’s what makes it different from opera and beauty pagent singing. I only wished James’ voice were a little bit more distinctive, less derivative of the artists he has been forced (or chosen) to cover. I am conifident his fans will give him the freedom to express who he really is.

    That’s something that needs to be hammered home. When it comes to singing hard rock & metal it’s a different scenario to opera and pop ballad singing.

    And they’re actually not singing off key it just sounds that way sometimes because they use different singing techniques. Even so there’s no singer that ever existed who was perfectly on pitch 100% of the time. I’m yet to come across a statement by a real vocal expert (like Masterclass Lady) that claims that James can never sing on pitch.

    James is young and is vertually untrained, he’s only going to get better with age and experience. I must say judging from the clips from SLC, his lower register, the weakest part of his range, has improved, it sounds much fuller & stronger now.

  • Mike M
  • Falfor

    Mark, I did not mean to offend you. Feeling normal is what everyone wants. This kid has a gift. To the general uneducated public, the diseases only enhance the fact that his gift is being utilized and not thrown away in some god-forsaken corner. Does it really matter how he gets to the top? People being people, will always think what they want.

  • Tess

    but know she is highly marketable where as someone like James is highly unmarketable to the public at large.

    No one really knows whether someone is marketable or not. They too, like those in the Idol bubble, are really only basing things on assumptions, not cold hard facts. If Leona Lewis couldn’t gain a strong foothold in the US why would her American clone be able to do so….and if the US market embraces someone (in my humble opinion) as weird as Pat Monohan from Train why wouldn’t they like James.

    The recording industry is one big crap shoot….and no one opinion about any potential recording artist is any more weighty or valid than anyone else’s. And for the life of me I can’t understand why it is so damn important for someone to break out of the AI bubble as soon as they leave the show….I would think my money is worth just as much as someone else’s.

  • Buffynut

    If Leona Lewis couldn’t gain a strong foothold in the US why would her American clone be able to do so….and if the US market embraces someone (in my humble opinion) as weird as Pat Monohan from Train why wouldn’t they like James.

    The answer to both of your examples is radio spins!

  • https://twitter.com/pmhowden undercooked

    It doesn’t appear, at least from the reports from these 1st two Idol shows, that Pia’s single is getting anything more than a tepid reaction. So the label may be disappointed if they are counting on huge sales from the Idol core fanbase when this song drops next week.

    I suspect the main reason she is performing it on the idol tour is so she can learn to perform it well. I wonder if Jimmy, etc., are looking at videos from the concerts and telling her what she needs to improve on.

    Only AI fans go to AI concerts so many people going to the concert have already made up their minds about her. It’s the general music population she needs to appeal to now. If the single drops soon and she’s invited to perform at some jingle balls, she needs to move better and engage the crowd more. I see this tour as a boot camp for her.

  • koshka

    Thanks for the info Mike M. I was curious how recent the interview occurred. Half the time between James’s comments and his lack of stage time, I think for sure he isn’t signed and then there are comments such as those in Brian’s interview. I wonder what they are waiting for? A hometown visit maybe?

  • koshka

    Does it really matter how he gets to the top?

    It does unless he wants an asterisk next to his name for a few years. Make that two asterisks since he was an AI contestant.

  • Tess

    she needs to move better

    In order to move better she probably needs to add 3 or 4 inches to her short legs and to reduce the height of her heels from8 inches to 2 or 3. OK…OK…that was rude. Learning to move one’s body isn’t an overnight thing…Carrie has been working on it for 6 years or more and she still doesn’t look comfortable doing it….and if you don’t have rhythm no one can really ever teach you that, just like no one can take someone who is as tone deaf as me and teach them to sing.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    No one really knows whether someone is marketable or not. They too, like those in the Idol bubble, are really only basing things on assumptions, not cold hard facts. If Leona Lewis couldn’t gain a strong foothold in the US why would her American clone be able to do so….and if the US market embraces someone (in my humble opinion) as weird as Pat Monohan from Train why wouldn’t they like James.

    The recording industry is one big crap shoot….and no one opinion about any potential recording artist is any more weighty or valid than anyone else’s. And for the life of me I can’t understand why it is so damn important for someone to break out of the AI bubble as soon as they leave the show….I would think my money is worth just as much as someone else’s.

    So true, though the TPTB may think they know but that doesn’t mean they really know. Jimmy is not infalible folks. I don’t know if anyone recalls what will.i.am said to James when he had that clash with Jimmy over performing Heavy Metal? He said that when he and his group told Jimmy they wanted to make a “dance record” (their The E.N.D. album) Jimmy thought they were crazy. But any guesses who had the last laugh here? James isn’t stupid or delusion. He knows how to market himself and his music to the record buying public, even Slezak acknowledged this. Jimmy’s comment about James not being “believable” when he sings metal was nothing but sour grapes. James performance of Heavy Metal proved him wrong about metal not having a hook and James knows this. James has also taken the iniative to make contacts in the music biz who aren’t associated with Idol. Mike Portnoy, Zakk Wylde, Sebastian Bach, Judas Priest & James Michael just to name a few. The rock media is keeping tabs on him. Blabbermouth, the official blog of the most prestigeous rock & metal label (Roadrunner Records) regulary publishes articles on him whenever he does something rock-related.

    Pia knows how to market herself too. But unlike James she isn’t marketing herself very well in a music context. She’s great at keeping herself in the limelight with her dating life and hobnobbing with reality stars but not at selling her music through performance.

  • argie

    I thought Laura did well with the Carrie Underwood’s song but she doesn’t fit well with Katy Perry’s Fireworks. Seems like the TPTB can’t decide what direction to take her (including her hair style and dress / boots).

    OMG. So much werd. I can deal with her cowboy boots fetish… I think it’s kinda cute. What’s not cute is the way she wears them with her tutu-esque dresses ALL THE TIME those are just horrid. I just can’t stop thinking Toddlers and Tiaras when I see her outfits. Carrie needs to walk into her dressing room like yesterday and give her a serious how-NOT-to-dress 101.

  • Falfor

    :) Koshka, I may be wrong, but as long as the money is coming in and the notoriety (which I never craved, but some do, and that may be where this comment is lacking), I would not care if there were 10 asterisks. The top is the top.

  • songsungblue

    Pia is way too self-conscious IMO. She needs to ‘get ugly’ in the immortal words of Fantasia ;) She never loses herself in her performance, and I would disagree that she’ll ‘learn’ it. If her voice was super-distinctive or her personality was more forceful, I’d say she had a better shot out of the gate.

    I’m trying really hard to be objective (it’s hard, lol)- but I do think part of the Pia hatred comes from people’s perception that it all comes too easy to her. She blew everybody away with “I’ll Stand By You”, she always came across as polished, was pitch perfect the majority of the time, and gracious in criticism- then the shock boot and then this record deal.

    I don’t think anyone hates her, and that’s part of the problem. She’s too bland and careful to raise the temperature that high. JMHO and all.

  • Nina1

    I often think Pia is being pushed by Interscope for the simple reason that Iovine thinks she is hot and has a crush on her. How wrong could I be?

  • halo9125

    Pia is way too self-conscious IMO

    This. A truer word was never spoken- I used to tell her that if this is the path she wanted to pursue, she needed to stop worrying about what people thought of her. When she graduated from 8th grade, she wrote to me “Thank you for trying to bring out the best in me”. (yup- I still have that card, lol).

    One thing I do find interesting- if you total up the number of views for “This Time” on youtube (there are probably 3 or 4 different videos) it’s close to 20,000 (I swear I am only responsible for 50 of those views, lol). Compare that to Scotty’s videos from SLC- maybe they add up to 1500. So either Jimmy Iovine has a staff clicking repeatedly on her videos, or these more interest than even I imagined.

  • Grammie Kari

    It seems Idol should make some changes in the line up. Pia needs to sing “I’ll Stand By You” and should get a warmer response. I don’t like what TPTB are trying to do with this girl.

    I was at an Idol concert a few years ago, and there is no doubt about it – it is a mother/daughter bonding experience and they do love their guys. But girls also *can* capture the crowd’s enthusiasm. It’s not impossible – it does take some moxie though.

    This is what happened with my daughter and I as we watched Siobhan Magnus’ performances. She was exciting and the crowd really seemed to enjoy it. Haley should be able to do something similar in getting the crowd riled up.

  • Trina

    That USA Today interviews is one of those times I cant take James seriously. Hes not getting any album out by the end of the tour so IMO hes ass talking. In Parker’s interview he said he had two songs done, hes got a LONG way to go. When he was saying by December that was more believable when I think he still had a UMG deal on the table. I’m firmly in the camp something fell through. His lack of stagetime AND his music still being off Napster while Haley and Pia are is another sign. I think there was probably a huge battle over the direction he should take. Just speculating.

    Well I think we’ll have to wait and see who has the last laugh. I dont think Jimmy is stupid at all and I dont fault him for pushing a more modern sound on James. I didnt like when he said “youre not that metal guy”, but listen to how he spoke to him. I felt he was trying to help him. “Heavy Metal” I find to be a crappy song too and he also told him he deserved better than that.

  • desiree_chick

    @halo9125, Just curious, how often do you still talk to Pia?

  • songsungblue

    At this point, if she stripped on the Idol concert stage, instead of applause and cheers people would ask “are they real?”

    They are not. LOL! http://www.starswithoutmakeup.org/pia-toscano-without-makeup

  • jsrj98

    Pia is way too self-conscious IMO. She needs to ‘get ugly’ in the immortal words of Fantasia ;) She never loses herself in her performance

    This is my main problem with Pia– and something that distances Haley from Pia (and really any other performer this year except James and Scotty). Haley either really does ‘lose herself’ in the song, or ‘sells’ it that way. Given her background Haley probably has more ‘stage time’ than any other contestant except Paul– so perhaps Pia can learn that over time (the way perhaps Carrie has). For me the only contestants with the real “IT” factor this year, and the ones I’m looking forward to seeing in concert, are Haley, Scotty and James.

  • halo9125

    @desiree_chick Maybe once or twice a month and very- and I mean VERY- briefly.

  • Tess

    So either Jimmy Iovine has a staff clicking repeatedly on her videos, or these more interest than even I imagined.

    You tube videos are like twitter followers…they, by themselves, offer very little in regards to someone’s popularity. Heh, a dog “talking” has millions and millions of views. Of course Pia is getting views…people are interested in hearing her new song…it’s the curiosity factor for right now.

  • Buffynut

    I watched the video because I wanted to see the new song, not because I am a Pia fan. I’m probably not the only one who did that.
    I expect this tour’s videos to have a lot less views than say S7 or S8. The format just doesn’t allow for much changes from night to night.
    I didn’t even come on-line, for this thread, last night. I was only interested in the setlist and got that from the SLC show.

  • tomk

    This is my main problem with Pia– and something that distances Haley from Pia (and really any other performer this year except James and Scotty). Haley either really does ‘lose herself’ in the song, or ‘sells’ it that way. Given her background Haley probably has more ‘stage time’ than any other contestant except Paul–

    I agree with this. If you look at videos pre-Idol, Haley has many instances where she is rocking it out with her band in front of a crowd. Looking at pre-Idol Pia performances, it looks like she was doing a lot of singing in a wedding type of atmosphere – or in a bar – etc. I would also suspect that as Haley got older, her parents probably had her on stage with their band as well – it’s invaluable experience. Heck, it’s invaluable experience just observing what her parents did.

    It is just a vibe I get – but if Haley was told “Person X over there doesn’t like you”, she’d probably say “I don’t care.” May be harsh, but that’s what you need to think. If Pia was asked the same question, she probably would care and would end up thinking about it over and over. In the music world, it’s almost impossible to win over someone that already has made the call on your likability. You need to concentrate on those who already like you and those that don’t yet know you.

  • Tess

    Scotty looks like he’s just going through the motions. He doesn’t really seem to be ‘there’.

    Just wanted to comment that I don’t think I have ever seen Scotty where he doesn’t project a pretty laid-back image….and a perfect persona for a country singer. I don’t think we’ll ever see Scotty performing like he is an over-active kid ripping open his presents on Christmas morning…just not his style.

  • Eileen99

    I was at the concert last night & haven’t read all the comments here but I’ll give my general impressions.

    First of all, it was a great show, the format really worked well & was very entertaining. I paid $75 for my ticket and felt I really got my money’s worth, unlike last year, where I paid $10 & thought that’s about what it was worth, heh. But about this year…

    As I said, the format was really fun and kept things moving. I also liked the countdown format in S8 and the big build up for each contestant & final build up to Kris, that worked well, too, but I may like the format last night better. I liked the use of the contestants as backup singers when other contestants were doing their solos, that was really fun & I’d much prefer seeing actual contestants get more stage time than the backup singers. They sounded great, too.

    Song choices were mostly all really good & for the most part, current. Loved all the group numbers.

    Contestants, in no particular order:

    Thia – she looked and sounded great. Had so much more personality than on the show, she smiled the whole time (and not at inappropriate moments, lolz). I thought the crowd really liked her & she conntected well.

    Stefano was the star of the first half. On the show, I liked him at first but quickly tired of him as I felt he didn’t show any growth. He was on fire last night, his voice was strong & totally in tune, & the crowd loved him. His little strip tease routine works, and doesn’t really come off as cheesy, heh. I thoroughly enjoyed him and he was awesome as a backup singer – knew all the Pip-style moves and was fun to watch.

    Paul – only had the one song but he made the most of it. When he performed, it was the first time the crowd really responded well and got on their feet. He’s a great entertainer and I didn’t really care for him on the show. He’s better live with a big crowd, despite the Pat Monahan-style dancing.

    Pia – well, she is about what I expected. Sounded great but she has no emotional connection to the audience. I’d say the audience was mostly indifferent to her, I didn’t see anyone standing for her or after her performances. Empire State of Mind was my least favorite song choice of the night, maybe because I don’t care for the Alicia Keys version nearly as much as the Jay-Z version. She is really robotic on stage, even though she’d added more hip swaying to her moves. I’m just not into 80′s style pop diva stuff. Crowd wasn’t either. It felt more like she was on display than actually there for the audience.

    Naima (lol I can’t even remember how to spell her name) – she was high energy, did great with the JLo song, did her African dancing thing and the crowd loved it.

    Jacob- he was SO FUNNY to watch, he was really getting into all the choreography and boy can swing his hips, that’s for sure. He got a lot of love & appreciation from the crowd, even though he had only the one solo. I didn’t recognize the song, probably b/c I’m not a big R&B listener, but he did a great job with it and it was thoroughly entertaining & enjoyable.

    Casey was awesome! So cool and jazzy … loved him last night way more than on the show and the crowd loved him, too.

    LOL James. He brought the house down. The crowd was SO LOUD during his performances and James signs popped up all over the arena. He was awesome and I was not much of a fan on the show. I came away a James fan. Hope he gets a chance.

    Haley got short-changed, only had the two songs from Idol plus the duet with Casey (which was the one Idol performance I thought worked better on the actual show than on tour). Crowd loved her, but I would have loved to have seen her more.

    Lauren was amazing for such a young performer. She had such emotional connection with the crowd and was the only contestant I remember actually being conversational with the crowd as opposed to “this is my new single” “how are you all?” comments. She was adorable, cute, and you can tell she has a bright future ahead of her. I loved her, IIDY & LMMD were both amazing.

    Scotty was soooo awesome, his voice is amazing in person. He is so comfortable on stage, and everyone loved him. Gone was my favorite performance but his others got great receptions, too. I loved the McLaina duet a lot, and see someone video taped it above – I need to watch that.

    Lots of rambling, but it was a fun, fun time. Definitely worth seeing.

  • Mike M

    I honestly don’t get all the angst about Pia’s stage time. She has two solos and a duet, and all the rest are group numbers and backup singing. Obviously, she, Haley, Thia and Lauren are the best backup singers, but they are not the focus of those numbers. I think a lot of the problem started during the first show when we were all reading the set list as the show occurred. Her name kept popping up on the list, but in most instances it turned out she was not being emphasized.

    As for her single, I think maybe after it’s released it could get a better response. Right now it’s just a song the audience doesn’t know. Since she has been in the studio longer than any of the others and had a single ready, I do think it would have been the height of stupidity for Jimmy and crew not to put it in the show. They’re not going to turn down an opportunity to have the song heard by thousands and thousands of people each night.

    I’m just a casual Pia fan. Lauren and Haley are more my cup of tea, but I do like her voice, and I just don’t feel like they are shoving her down my throat by having her do group numbers with the other girls and singing backup.

    ETA: Eileen99, thanks for the great review. Glad you had such a good time.

  • lili_anne7

    Mike M, the problem is not that Pia is on stage more, but that compared to other contestants that placed higher, she’s getting a special treatment. Paul only gets to sing one song along with the group numbers, James sings two songs, as well as Jacob. They all placed above her. Pia gets to sing two songs, along with a duet, and she’s in a quartet and a trio too. Plus she gets to sing an original song, which only Lauren and Scotty get to do. On top of that, Pia is singing new songs that fit her, while Naima gets stuck with “On the floor”, Paul with “Maggie May” (which he hates BTW), and Thia gets a Selena Gomez song. The top 5 also had to sing old Idol songs. So in someway Pia (and Stefano for that matter) are getting the special treatment, which is why some idol fans are not too happy.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    That USA Today interviews is one of those times I cant take James seriously. Hes not getting any album out by the end of the tour so IMO hes ass talking.

    If you listened properly he said he hopes to get an album out by the end of the tour. That is not ass talking.

    In Parker’s interview he said he had two songs done, hes got a LONG way to go. When he was saying by December that was more believable when I think he still had a UMG deal on the table. I’m firmly in the camp something fell through. His lack of stagetime AND his music still being off Napster while Haley and Pia are is another sign. I think there was probably a huge battle over the direction he should take. Just speculating.

    It’s really difficult to know what exactly James was referring to when he said “I’m still just shopping around for something. I got a couple of good leads” at about the 40 second mark of the second part of the interview. He had just been talking about having “2 songs in the bank” so it is easy to read that he is shopping for more songs for an album rather than a recording contract. That said, it could be a contract he is shopping around for, but a contract was NOT part of the context of the disscussion when he said what he said.

    Well I think we’ll have to wait and see who has the last laugh. I dont think Jimmy is stupid at all and I dont fault him for pushing a more modern sound on James. I didnt like when he said “youre not that metal guy”, but listen to how he spoke to him. I felt he was trying to help him. “Heavy Metal” I find to be a crappy song too and he also told him he deserved better than that.

    I didn’t say that Jimmy is stupid I said he’s not infalible. He has been proven wrong before by the BEP and James, and he might be proven wrong again where Pia is concerned.

    James doesn’t need to be pushed into a more modern sound, he knows that his music needs to sound contemporary not dated. Here’s probably his earliest interview on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZ8cEmjNa8. James has a lot of respect for Jimmy and Jimmy is very impressed with him. But I don’t share your awe for Jimmy in “trying to help James”, because from my impression Jimmy didn’t tell James anything he didn’t already know.

  • Eileen99

    Mike M, the problem is not that Pia is on stage more, but that compared to other contestants that placed higher, she’s getting a special treatment.

    One additional thing I noticed on this topic is that Pia was generally placed in the front & center of all the large group numbers, Haley & Lauren were usually behind her. It happened often enough that I noticed it.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    Eileen99 your review totally rocks!

  • Mike M

    “If I Die Young.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd8Owdavk0Y

    I don’t know. I think Lauren’s voice sounds OK. I know they have her on vocal rest, but it doesn’t sound like it’s all that rough right now. Haley, Stefano and Thia sound great on background vocals.

    ili_anne7 thanks for distilling dozens of posts over several days into a very nice, succinct paragraph. That does make it clearer to me what is bothering people about it.

  • Pam
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  • soverymel

    Have there been any newspaper reviews of last night’s show yet?

  • ross

    So is it normal a contestant in the Top 10 (11 in this case) to have only one solo or two solos? Granted there’s one more person than usual to deal with. But I’d probably be unhappy if I were a fan of Haley (for ex.) and paid 75 bucks to hear her sing two songs. 3rd place finisher.

    Maybe a build-up, from bottom to top, was seen as a less exciting format for this cast. I always thought the show this year was successful for the ensemble, not stars.

    (I never felt that anyone – based on talent/performance – was a shoo-in for the top. Truthfully, I feel Scotty-Lauren-Haley could have finished lower, and others could have finished higher, and it would have made as much sense. Imho.)

    I’m also curious if people are getting fewer songs because it’s felt they don’t have the ability to do more songs.

    It almost seems like when they adopt this format they’re trying to hide something. Or divert attention from something. Or maybe highlight people more, who didn’t finish higher. Or highlight people less, who finished higher.

  • http://www.kellydeanhansen.com MahlerFan

    I really don’t think Haley’s fans have anything to complain about, and I’m a big Haley fan. She gets two solos, both of which were huge hits from the show that are guaranteed to please the audience. She gets to sing the duet that, in my opinion (not BatJ) was the moment that really made her a contender. She gets to lead into the winner. She gets a cool new quartet. She gets to sing backup on several songs. Nothing to complain about, especially about the placement. And there’s still the possibility that something could be added or changed.

    Incidentally, there’s been some unsubstantiated chatter (based on a random wikipedia edit) that UMG is going to sign Haley not to Interscope, but to Verve. Intersting. Verve is smaller, and didn’t do anything for Kat McPhee, but it IS a label that has its roots in jazz. If it is the case that Haley is with Verve, could this possibly be a part of her having just a bit more artistic control? It won’t make her a platinum superstar, but I genuinely don’t think that’s what she wants. She wants to sing and have fun doing it.

  • Mike M

    Have there been any newspaper reviews of last night’s show yet?

    Searched the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, which is the biggest paper in the area, and—not a word. I’m assuming it’s a morning paper since those are just about the only ones left these days, so maybe they had deadline problems. Could be a review shows up n their Sunday edition. The latest Idol news on the site was Pia’s signing.

  • tomk

    Incidentally, there’s been some unsubstantiated chatter (based on a random wikipedia edit) that UMG is going to sign Haley not to Interscope, but to Verve. Intersting. Verve is smaller, and didn’t do anything for Kat McPhee, but it IS a label that has its roots in jazz. If it is the case that Haley is with Verve, could this possibly be a part of her having just a bit more artistic control? It won’t make her a platinum superstar, but I genuinely don’t think that’s what she wants. She wants to sing and have fun doing it.

    I think Verve is perfect for her, actually – we’ll see how they promote her. I’ll have to look at the list of artists that they have – since it is all under the UMG umbrella, they probably can throw plenty of resources her way regardless of how big the actual label is :-)
    Just getting her signed and allowing her to put out some music would be great from my perspective! :)

  • ross

    I really don’t think Haley’s fans have anything to complain about, and I’m a big Haley fan.

    Okay, well, that’s good to know, thanks. I guess I figured fans would prefer more solos.

    I thought people were complaining about it. And Paul getting only one solo, for ex. Stuff like that.

    It won’t make her a platinum superstar, but I genuinely don’t think that’s what she wants. She wants to sing and have fun doing it.

    That’s good for her. Not sure how you know what she wants, but I suspect you’re right.

    I don’t know why people make such a big deal about James singing (perhaps) niche music and what a flop that will cause him to be, but for other people it’s just great, though, you know? I don’t get that. It’s kind of like how Crystal is always written about as a success d’estime, and Lee a flop, even though she isn’t much different than him in her sales or career. Makes me scratch my head. (Sorry, that’s off-topic. Just a mild comparison to a vaguely similar situation.)

    Big fish, small pond, vs little fish, big pond, I guess.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    It almost seems like when they adopt this format they’re trying to hide something. Or divert attention from something. Or maybe highlight people more, who didn’t finish higher. Or highlight people less, who finished higher.

    They adopted this format to pimp Pia so she can promote her debut single. And so far the crowds are not eating it up.

    I really don’t think Haley’s fans have anything to complain about, and I’m a big Haley fan. She gets two solos, both of which were huge hits from the show that are guaranteed to please the audience. She gets to sing the duet that, in my opinion (not BatJ) was the moment that really made her a contender. She gets to lead into the winner. She gets a cool new quartet. She gets to sing backup on several songs. Nothing to complain about, especially about the placement. And there’s still the possibility that something could be added or changed.

    If James got to do the entire Whitesnake song with Lauren instead of just a snippet to open for a medley, his fans would’ve complained a little less. We’ve wanted him to duet with a girl all season and they sound really good together.

  • Buffynut

    DurbNet, I am not a James fan but I feel he has definitely gotten short changed on this tour. If we go by past years, he should have about 4 solos or 3 solos and one duet, then the final group number. I feel bad for his fans and Jacob’s.
    I am a Haley fan and like her parts of the show. My only wish would have been for one new song. But I love her opening number with the 3 girls, her duet with Casey, and the 2 solos.

  • Montavilla

    Interesting thoughts, Ross.

    My sense this year (based on nothing, really), was that Scotty was the inevitable winner. It wasn’t what I wanted (I liked Casey in the beginning). But from his audition, Scotty just exuded this strange quality that screamed “winner” to me. As RuPaul would say, he had the right combination of Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve, and Talent.

    But I agree that everyone else seemed pretty much on the same level, while being enjoyably diverse in style. It was easier to figure out who would leave in a given week (except Jacob continued to advance) than to say who was ahead. Scotty’s performances certainly weren’t blowing anyone away.

    I’m guessing that Paul has only one song because of his health. Sometimes on the show (notably Elton John week), he could barely make it through one song. So, I think it makes sense to limit his solos.

    I think it’s obvious that TPTB are trying to make Pia happen. They’ve signed her and they need to 1) promote her single and 2) work on her performance skills. Those of us on the boards can sometimes pile irrationally on a contestant (see Gokey, Danny), but the wider Idol audience is less opinionated. If they are tepid in their response to Pia, then she’s going to have an even harder time outside the tour bubble.

    If anything, crowd response on the tour is going to be overly enthusiastic. It’s not like anyone would be mad at her for outlasting a more popular finalist. :)

    I think maybe James and Haley are getting shafted. A little. But I don’t know if James has the stamina to do more songs a night, given the style he sings in. As someone mentioned, he’s not really trained to do that and it would be a shame for him to ruin his voice.

    I’m not worried about Haley, but it’s a little too bad they have her coming out to do group numbers before her set. It’s sort of like spoiling her second outfit on Top 4 night.

    They do the same thing to Lauren, Jacob, and James. So, I think you’re right that they’re downplaying the idea of anticipation for each successive finalist.

    Instead, they save all the anticipation for Scotty. It’s like the format of the show is: We’re all just a happy ensemble of kids with this extra special guest star Scotty McCreery!

  • chearts77

    I agree, MahlerFan. I think Haley fans should be very pleased with her tour set. She’s sprinkled throughout the show in groups, back up, her own solo set which leads into Scotty, then she comes out again during Scotty’s Gone performance. I think Haley fans get to see her 10 times throughout the night. :)

  • Trina

    Wait, what? You think I’m interpreting what James says because I don’t like him? I think its safe to say anyone that knows me here that I’m a ridiculously, insanely huge James fan. I haven’t been a fan of anyone like this in years so um no that’s not why I think what I do. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. I love the boy, but I think he does tend to dream big. If he really intends to release anything by the end of the tour shouldn’t some official announcement or single come soon? The previous rumor that he would have a *single* in the fall was more believable.

  • SajiNoKami
    We saw James asking the audiences to cheer for him at the end of his performances every week during the competition. Of course he acts the same on tour. He walks through the audience, and he demands ‘more applause’ form the audience.

    DurbNet said: But that is how a professional performer behaves. James is acting no different to any major artist when they perform live. They all encourage or demand screaming and applause.

    ITA. It makes the concert more fun too. Someone else mentioned on here how some of the others are not engaging the audience at all and causes the show to lack. Then Paul is just as if not more demanding than james, based on the videos. The other big rock show I went to this year was linkin park and they are very engaging. I get the feeling no matter what james does, it will always be wrong to those who dislike him, even if the ones they happen to like are doing the same thing.

  • Lilzie

    @Trina if your question was based on my post the answer is no I know you are a James fan. Contrary to what others may think, not drinking from the “he can do no wrong koolaid” does not make you or anyone else less of a fan. Interestingly, the quote about what was said at the 40 second mark of the interview is actually a direct regurgitation of MY post on the main board LOL.

    I myself get accused of not being loyal when I am less than uberly supportive about something he has done or said. He IS human and not perfect after all. I do think however, and it has been amply demonstrated, that anyone who does not like James will find whatever shred is possible to use as evidence for why he is delusional, a douche, arrogant whatever. I have stopped trying to change minds because it is futile. My comment, if that is what you refer to, was a general statement of opinion and not directed at anyone in particular. LURBS the DURBZ <3

  • Pam
  • Pam

    Paul-Maggie May-Partial

    Naima-On The Floor

    Lauren-Firework

  • Willis

    Love what Haley did with Bennie! That’s the song I’m most looking forward to at my show. She’s really put her stamp on that Elton classic throughout the year.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    When I said 2 days ago, ‘She wants to get ahead so badly, she does not care who she has to step on to do so.’ IMO, from here, this is what it looks like. No, we don’t know these people, and this thought may have never entered their head, or they may be nothing like that, or maybe they are, but in this business, when one is trying to gather fans, perception is everything.

    I think that is a little harsh because I honestly think that any of the Idols would do exactly what Pia has done if they had the chance: sign with a label, record a single and sing it on tour, regardless of the finishing order. I think that the show is over, and the concert tour is a different situation. I’m certain that if any one of them had been signed and had the opportunity to debut their first single on the tour, every. single. one. of them would have done it regardless of whether or not an Idol who lasted longer on the show had the same opportunities, and I wouldn’t think that anything is wrong with that. This is their chance at grabbing the brass ring and I don’t begrudge anyone for taking advantage of their opportunities.

  • swish5

    Haley was incredible in Faithfully (with Casey and Paul)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRHpRxu8C2k
    Faithfully should be a full song and skip Steve Tyler’s song
    Seriously – what’s with this tour having a JLo and Steve Tyler songs

  • Kradison

    But its not a matter of girls in general getting less love, from all the reports Lauren and Haley are doing just fine with crowd reaction, fans love them. Its Pia, especially her single that’s getting a meh reaction.

    Well Haley was Top 3 and Lauren was runner up, of course they’re gonna get huge reactions lol. Pia was in 9th place. And i think once her single goes out on radio and it starts circulating i think it will get a different reaction because it’ll actually be heard. Right now she’s just a 9th place finisher singing a song no one has heard before, of course it’s gonna get a meh reaction.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    But that is how a professional performer behaves. James is acting no different to any major artist when they perform live. They all encourage or demand screaming and applause. They’re performing for their fans so they expect it. The crowd will respond the way they want to. If they love the performance they’ll stand, shout, throw hands in the air, jump around, ect. If they hate it they’ll boo, be silent or throw objects. Every major artist has been both cheered and booed. So far the crowds are loving James.

    I don’t think that any artist tweets their fans to tell them “to scream so loud that I can’t hear myself”, and I’ve seen major artists encouraging the audience to clap or sing along, but not to scream or applaud. None of the others on the Idol tour have done this, so IMO, using the crowd response to James as an indication of his popularity is somewhat tempered by the fact that he has asked his fans to be as loud as possible.

  • http://durbnet.wordpress.com/ DurbNet

    I don’t think that any artist tweets their fans to tell them “to scream so loud that I can’t hear myself”, and I’ve seen major artists encouraging the audience to clap or sing along, but not to scream or applaud.

    Clap, sing along? Has your concert going experience been limited to country artists? I’m guessing you haven’t been to any rock concerts lately?

  • Desdemona

    I don’t think that any artist tweets their fans to tell them “to scream so loud that I can’t hear myself”, and I’ve seen major artists encouraging the audience to clap or sing along, but not to scream or applaud. None of the others on the Idol tour have done this, so IMO, using the crowd response to James as an indication of his popularity is somewhat tempered by the fact that he has asked his fans to be as loud as possible.

    And everyone in the audience read his tweet of course! In Salt Lake City AND those last night in Everett, WA!

    His actual tweet could be interpreted however whoever wanted to interpret it – he didn’t say scream so loud for ME, I can’t hear MYSELF. He’s excited – maybe he wants everyone to feel his excitement and keep the noise level up all night. :)


    JDurbinAI10 James Durbin
    And so it begins! Salt Lake City! Maverick Center! Here we go! You better be the craziest crowd I’ve ever seen! Scream so loud I can’t hear!

  • halo9125

    I honestly think that any of the Idols would do exactly what Pia has done if they had the chance: sign with a label, record a single and sing it on tour, regardless of the finishing order.

    Well said. I mean really now- what should she have done? Said, “Gosh Jimmy, I finished 9th place, I’m not deserving of this- please give this contract, this single, and this incredible opportunity to somebody more deserving”.

    Just read a pip of a story in the National Enquirer (thank goodness for long lines in the supermarket lol). According to the article, Pia and Mark Ballas are engaged and planning on their own reality show. Now to this I say ew.

  • tomk

    Well said. I mean really now- what should she have done? Said, “Gosh Jimmy, I finished 9th place, I’m not deserving of this- please give this contract, this single, and this incredible opportunity to somebody more deserving”.

    Nobody should begrudge her for doing what she is asked to do. It’s a huge opportunity to get her music out there. If people want to blame TPTB, I can understand that. But I can’t see myself blaming Pia. I don’t see any type of diva attitude coming from her, at least.

  • http://www.huckleberryfriendmusic.com/ huckleberryfriend

    Verve would be a perfect fit for Haley. One of my favorite artists, Melody Gardot, who does a bluesy jazzy mix is on that label.

  • koshka

    Nobody should begrudge her for doing what she is asked to do. It’s a huge opportunity to get her music out there. If people want to blame TPTB, I can understand that. But I can’t see myself blaming Pia. I don’t see any type of diva attitude coming from her, at least.

    I’m no fan of Pia’s, I don’t really have much of an opinion on her. I find it laughable for anyone to give her grief over this. TPTB have always pushed those that have the most potential to make money. Its cut and dry. Everyone is getting their pay checks & IMO the tour won’t break anyone that wasn’t already going to be signed otherwise (despite my opinion) Matt G would have been sign coming off tour in S8.

  • tomk

    Verve would be a perfect fit for Haley. One of my favorite artists, Melody Gardot, who does a bluesy jazzy mix is on that label.

    Looking at the list of artists, there’s a good mix there – I think Haley would fit right in.
    Of course, it is just one little piece of speculation – I wouldn’t be shocked to see her under the Interscope label when all is said and done….I am sure she’s thrilled either way.

  • Pam
  • JerryT

    The rumor about Haley being signed to Verve Forecast/Universal Music Group… is just that… A rumor,it was posted on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haley_Reinhart on July, 7th but was removed by Wikipedia because it could not be confirmed .
    Haley Reinhart loves being in front of a crowed,It is her dream,anyone who keeps up on her pursuit of this dream would know that she loves being on the stage singing and performing in front of thousands of people,to say that she prefers to sing to a smaller group of people so that she can pursue her hobby songs,well…I guess your are not paying to much attention to Haley.
    I believe all eleven of these young artist know what the Tour is about and what TPTB objectives are but they all are out to reach the same dream and from what I can tell, they are living the first part of it by working together to give the audience the best concert performance they can and IMO they are succeeding.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Has Kirsten posted her recap of last night’s concert yet?

  • Tess

    And i think once her single goes out on radio and it starts circulating i think it will get a different reaction because it’ll actually be heard.

    Considering the fact that not every song released to radio gets played and heard (see Cook, D) its still a big if to think that Pia is going to be a big radio hit prior to the end of idol. Unless Interscope is willing to spend a fortune on her with no guaranteed reselts her radio time might be pretty limited. If the AI fans haven’t been jumping up and down for her what is to say that the buying public will.

  • Buffynut

    Just watched the videos from the links posted on the previous page and I have to say, Lauren sounds much better than she did in SLC. I hope that means her voice is recovering.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Reminder:

    Let’s keep this conversation FOCUSED ON THE TOUR.

    Deleting off topic posts.

    This will be a regular drum that I beat all the way through the tour.

    People who insist on fighting old fan wars or rehashing last season, in these tour threads, despite my mods will be put in moderation.

  • Tess

    Because there isn’t much overlap between the Idol audience and the top40 audience, using Idol audiences to gauge the potential popularity of a song on CHR radio doesn’t make much sense.

    I’m sure that there is a goodly number of idol enthusiasts that listen to CHR and are very familiar with the artists who debut there. It isn’t like the 20 million folks who watch idol all have the same taste (or lack there of, as is sometimes insinuated). Maybe the 20 million doesn’t necessarily contain peeps who are into rhythmic or hip hop or rap or who love auto-tuned and electronic…but then I don’t think Pia would win those peeps over, regardless. Her “sound and style” is more apt to be appreciated by the AI faithful then the hep and with it ipod generation, I would think.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Tess: We’ll just have to disagree on that point. My opinion is based on the fact that the median age for Idol viewers this past season was over 47 years old, so a substantial portion of Idol viewers were clearly outside of the CHR demographic.

  • indigoimrah

    All I was trying to say is I don’t get that guys get more reaction then girls, guys are average singers( girls are better this year). Could it be sex appeal? but as far as I can see none of them have that, they are average in looks and lack that ” IT ” factor and stage presence. If you count the running around in audience and yelling at audience to clap and force reaction out of them as a stage presence then IDK what to say.

  • Valentin432

    All I was trying to say is I don’t get that guys get more reaction then girls

    There’s nothing to understand.
    Guys have been the draw for the tour ever since season 2. It’s purely based on demographics.

    As someone said previously in this thread Bo and Constantine got the majority of the screams during the season 4 tour.

    The tours with a big numbers of female performers placing high (season 3 or 6) were relative busts overall compared to other years.

  • halo9125

    My opinion is based on the fact that the median age for Idol viewers this past season was over 47 years old, so a substantial portion of Idol viewers were clearly outside of the CHR demographic.

    This old girl slinks into the corner, equipped with an iPod full of Lady Gaga/Adele/ CeeLo Green songs….

  • Tess

    My opinion is based on the fact that the median age for Idol viewers this past season was over 47 years old, so a substantial portion of Idol viewers were clearly outside of the CHR demographic

    What does the over 47 set listen to. Classical? Crooners? Defending my demographic I just have to say that my generation has been exposed to and have supported pretty much all the genres of music that are still popular today. In all actuality we are probably, as a whole, a lot more knowledgeable and in sinc with all types of music than the majority of kids who are barely out of adolescence. My music collection is beyond diverse, and even though I can’t sing a note I appreciate a lot of different genres including Top 40…I bet I could even tell you who are the most popular acts in that genre…amazing as that may be. So, if Idol fans grew up when I did and have been exposed to all the musical styles that I have been they are probably pretty damn aware of what is going on…It’s my parent’s generation that wouldn’t get it (and they are in their ninetys) not the “kids” I grew up with.

  • Bazzle

    Naima gets stuck with “On the floor”, Paul with “Maggie May” (which he hates BTW), and Thia gets a Selena Gomez song. The top 5 also had to sing old Idol songs. So in someway Pia (and Stefano for that matter) are getting the special treatment, which is why some idol fans are not too happy.

    The interview with Stefano said he was happy with the songs he got, but they weren’t his personal preferences. He wants his album to sound like a crossover of Stevie Wonder and John Legend and if thats the case, im excited. If he said Bruno Mars, i would not have been excited. no hate for Bruno Mars tho he da man, but i think we need some of this old stuff back.

    Anyway, yea i was a little… suprised with Naima, Paul and Thia’s song.

    Thia mentioned she wants to follow an Adele sort of career path, so kinda acoustic soul. I would’ve picked “Make It Mine” by Jason Mraz. Firstly, her favourite male artist, universal message everyone can connect with and the song itself is about touring and enjoying life. It’s a multi-genre song and wait for it… it’s uptempo and you have to play the guitar! Basically, everything i think will fully display her talents in one song. However, she did a great job with “Who Says”, and although i dont think the song is the best song, its got a relate-able message for her and the majority of the audience who are probably teenagers.

    Paul, felt very very sorry for him. Poor guy, mentioned things like Blacks Keys, Mumford and Sons.. and then he had to do Maggie May again. it coulda been a great way to educate the younger audiences to other types of music.

    I tweeted Naima…. “hope you get to do some Reggae on the tour” she answered “I WISH!” obviously she wanted to but she couldnt haha. she did a great job with on the floor and no doubt she was born to perform live.

    As for Pia, i still like her, and she said Rhianna and Alicia Keys sorta album, and thats exactly what she got but… aww. i do feel sorry for her, she probably was just lucky and she really didnt have much control either..but i see why fans will be frustrated, its not because we see more of her i really dont mind that, its because of the comparison with the other contestants.

  • Eileen99

    Could it be sex appeal? but as far as I can see none of them have that, they are average in looks and lack that ” IT ” factor and stage presence. If you count the running around in audience and yelling at audience to clap and force reaction out of them as a stage presence then IDK what to say.

    You should probably see a tour show yourself and you may have a different opinion afterward. All the contestants last night, with the exception of Pia, worked the stage, engaged the audience & were very, very entertaining. I wasn’t a particular fan of James, Stefano, Paul or Jacob going into the show, but all four of those guys were awesome on stage & got the crowd involved. Lauren, Haley, Naima all got a lot of love from the crowd last night and had tremendous stage presence about them.

    None of the performers had to run around in the audience forcing people to be happy, lol. The audience willingly gave love to the performers.

  • indigoimrah

    Well I was just responding to what little that I saw from watching clips and reading what others have to say about the show. I am happy for them and the audience. It is always better live, you can feel the energy from the performer and the audience. So all is good in Idol land.

  • Ratna12

    Eillen99, thanks for your recap.
    Happy that you had a great time on the show.

  • Letmeseeyastrut

    Here’s a link to all the pics seeinstereo took last night…….
    http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s106/tanageorge/American%20Idol%2010%20in%20Everett%20WA/

  • KatieB

    I’m really looking forward to seeing this tour when it comes to my area. Sounds like a great time.