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		<title>By: Heart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest, Adam isn&#039;t really grabbing his crotch.  He&#039;s teasingly stroking around and on the crotch area.  It&#039;s kinda hot, IMO. 

It&#039;s nothing like the youtube .38 video where he is actually grabbing Little Adam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, Adam isn&#8217;t really grabbing his crotch.  He&#8217;s teasingly stroking around and on the crotch area.  It&#8217;s kinda hot, IMO. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s nothing like the youtube .38 video where he is actually grabbing Little Adam.</p>
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		<title>By: oceana</title>
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		<dc:creator>oceana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused, did Adam grab his crotch or did he hump the mic stand? Or maybe he did both. lol. I haven&#039;t seen the videos actually.

Clay Aiken caresses the mic stand and humps his co-singers (female) and his fans love it (it never did anything for me). And he&#039;s a religious role model, according to himself.

I admit right now that I don&#039;t like crotch grabbing, I think it&#039;s gross, and it always seemed to me that Michael Jackson was the one to popularize that particular move. But massaging the mic stand, that&#039;s not so bad, unless they go overboard, and then it&#039;s just laughable.

Clearly everyone has their own perception of whether or not AI is a family show. Points can be made on both sides. Maybe Fox should decide, and market it clearly one way or the other, or put out some sort of disclaimer when advertising the tour, so parents will know what to expect.

It doesn&#039;t sound like a big deal unless you are sitting in the front row. It&#039;s probably one small gesture in a 3-hour concert. Basically I don&#039;t like seeing little kids at these shows, which is why I hardly ever go to them. I like concerts for adults, not kiddie shows. A lot of parents don&#039;t even notice when their kids are making noise and fidgeting during heartfelt ballads for instance and it&#039;s very distracting.

Finally, in some ways yes America is too prudish, in other ways, it&#039;s pretty discouraging the crap that goes on that kids are exposed to on tv and internet. A lot of that stuff even adults shouldn&#039;t watch, especially when it&#039;s violent, graphic, and sick. As a nation we seem far more obsessed with violence and murder than with sex. Healthy sexuality is nothing to be afraid of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused, did Adam grab his crotch or did he hump the mic stand? Or maybe he did both. lol. I haven&#8217;t seen the videos actually.</p>
<p>Clay Aiken caresses the mic stand and humps his co-singers (female) and his fans love it (it never did anything for me). And he&#8217;s a religious role model, according to himself.</p>
<p>I admit right now that I don&#8217;t like crotch grabbing, I think it&#8217;s gross, and it always seemed to me that Michael Jackson was the one to popularize that particular move. But massaging the mic stand, that&#8217;s not so bad, unless they go overboard, and then it&#8217;s just laughable.</p>
<p>Clearly everyone has their own perception of whether or not AI is a family show. Points can be made on both sides. Maybe Fox should decide, and market it clearly one way or the other, or put out some sort of disclaimer when advertising the tour, so parents will know what to expect.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t sound like a big deal unless you are sitting in the front row. It&#8217;s probably one small gesture in a 3-hour concert. Basically I don&#8217;t like seeing little kids at these shows, which is why I hardly ever go to them. I like concerts for adults, not kiddie shows. A lot of parents don&#8217;t even notice when their kids are making noise and fidgeting during heartfelt ballads for instance and it&#8217;s very distracting.</p>
<p>Finally, in some ways yes America is too prudish, in other ways, it&#8217;s pretty discouraging the crap that goes on that kids are exposed to on tv and internet. A lot of that stuff even adults shouldn&#8217;t watch, especially when it&#8217;s violent, graphic, and sick. As a nation we seem far more obsessed with violence and murder than with sex. Healthy sexuality is nothing to be afraid of.</p>
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		<title>By: agathe.hb</title>
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		<dc:creator>agathe.hb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesterday I was talking to my gay friends about Adam (they&#039;ve never heard of him) and they were really surprised that so many women were excited about him - I had to explain to them that he is just as universally sexy, as let&#039;s say Marylin Monroe was to many gays - and they totally understood... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday I was talking to my gay friends about Adam (they&#8217;ve never heard of him) and they were really surprised that so many women were excited about him &#8211; I had to explain to them that he is just as universally sexy, as let&#8217;s say Marylin Monroe was to many gays &#8211; and they totally understood&#8230; <img src='http://3888.voxcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary102</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary102</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They are ending the tour in the East Coast, and as I understand that is where another solid block of Adam&#039;s rabid fan base is. I envy those people. Adam will probably hurl them to to the outer space of human sensuality with no ride back. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

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I sure hope so! LOL &lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL! I also second that, as one of those east coast go-ers :-)

I hadn&#039;t heard about the previous year stuff as much, especially the Constantine antics (that was before I started following the show). So I guess Adam is hardly the first, or the last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They are ending the tour in the East Coast, and as I understand that is where another solid block of Adam&#8217;s rabid fan base is. I envy those people. Adam will probably hurl them to to the outer space of human sensuality with no ride back. </p></blockquote>
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I sure hope so! LOL </p></blockquote>
<p>LOL! I also second that, as one of those east coast go-ers <img src='http://3888.voxcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t heard about the previous year stuff as much, especially the Constantine antics (that was before I started following the show). So I guess Adam is hardly the first, or the last.</p>
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		<title>By: pj</title>
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		<dc:creator>pj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I may not care if Adam humps the mike or grabs his crotch but I don&#039;t since he didn&#039;t display that level of so-called raunch on the show&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Adam humped the mic on the show. Danny treated us to his pelvic thrusts.  I won&#039;t get into the guest stars and their antics.  I think if you watch the show with any attention, the tour probably is about par with what you see on television.  Haven&#039;t seen it yet... just vids.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I may not care if Adam humps the mike or grabs his crotch but I don&#8217;t since he didn&#8217;t display that level of so-called raunch on the show</p></blockquote>
<p>Adam humped the mic on the show. Danny treated us to his pelvic thrusts.  I won&#8217;t get into the guest stars and their antics.  I think if you watch the show with any attention, the tour probably is about par with what you see on television.  Haven&#8217;t seen it yet&#8230; just vids.</p>
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		<title>By: tinawina</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinawina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes. Is it me or is this way away from the original point... which is that people may show up to the AI concert expecting the contestants behavior to be in line with the kind of things those contestants are allowed to do on the TV show. It is not about what any one of us personally thinks is offensive, whether anyone is a &quot;prude&quot; or whether Adam is a bad guy.. to me those are all value judgements that have nothing to do with the topic. I may not care if Adam humps the mike or grabs his crotch but I don&#039;t since he didn&#039;t display that level of so-called raunch on the show, I could see how someone might not expect to see that at the concert. And they may have a point, to me at least.


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So in the big arenas his act may come across as milder.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I believe that may be the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes. Is it me or is this way away from the original point&#8230; which is that people may show up to the AI concert expecting the contestants behavior to be in line with the kind of things those contestants are allowed to do on the TV show. It is not about what any one of us personally thinks is offensive, whether anyone is a &#8220;prude&#8221; or whether Adam is a bad guy.. to me those are all value judgements that have nothing to do with the topic. I may not care if Adam humps the mike or grabs his crotch but I don&#8217;t since he didn&#8217;t display that level of so-called raunch on the show, I could see how someone might not expect to see that at the concert. And they may have a point, to me at least.</p>
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So in the big arenas his act may come across as milder.</p></blockquote>
<p>I believe that may be the case.</p>
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		<title>By: iluvai</title>
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		<dc:creator>iluvai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Where is the San Jose thread?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s up.  MJ just started it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Where is the San Jose thread?</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s up.  MJ just started it.</p>
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		<title>By: jpfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well AI used to be known as a family show. And back in the day, a huge number of tween girls attended the tour (ages 7-12). And the videos I saw of Adam grabbing his penis during WLL were way OTT for a &quot;family show.&quot; I don&#039;t really care what rockers or rappers do at their concerts. I&#039;m sure the raunch factor is through the roof. For an Idol concert, Adam&#039;s act looks vulgar and OTT.

However, that may be the videos because no reviewer has mentioned it. So in the big arenas his act may come across as milder.

No insult to anybody but I don&#039;t really care that in Country X we are accustomed to public nudity and you Americans are so prudish...etc.  Different strokes for different folks so to speak. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well AI used to be known as a family show. And back in the day, a huge number of tween girls attended the tour (ages 7-12). And the videos I saw of Adam grabbing his penis during WLL were way OTT for a &#8220;family show.&#8221; I don&#8217;t really care what rockers or rappers do at their concerts. I&#8217;m sure the raunch factor is through the roof. For an Idol concert, Adam&#8217;s act looks vulgar and OTT.</p>
<p>However, that may be the videos because no reviewer has mentioned it. So in the big arenas his act may come across as milder.</p>
<p>No insult to anybody but I don&#8217;t really care that in Country X we are accustomed to public nudity and you Americans are so prudish&#8230;etc.  Different strokes for different folks so to speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne03</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry if this is off subject, but just read some twitters that say there are some protesters at the San Jose concert.  This is so sad.  

Here&#039;s one 

http://twitter.com/ontd_fluffy/status/2606902951</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if this is off subject, but just read some twitters that say there are some protesters at the San Jose concert.  This is so sad.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one </p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/ontd_fluffy/status/2606902951" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/ontd_fluffy/status/2606902951</a></p>
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		<title>By: Heart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the San Jose thread?

IDF is reporting via twitter that there are protesters at San Jose with signs against &quot;big gay Adam&quot; .

Please let this be not true!

ETA:  TWOP is reporting an Dadam sighting at San Jose!!!!!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the San Jose thread?</p>
<p>IDF is reporting via twitter that there are protesters at San Jose with signs against &#8220;big gay Adam&#8221; .</p>
<p>Please let this be not true!</p>
<p>ETA:  TWOP is reporting an Dadam sighting at San Jose!!!!!  <img src='http://3888.voxcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: adamland</title>
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		<dc:creator>adamland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the people that are getting all bent out of shape over Adam&#039;s performances and thinking that it will scar their children for life should have to spend a few days in elementary, jr. high and high schools.  I have seen 4th graders grab their crotch and tell another student &quot;Bite me!&quot; and some worse.  Believe me, most people do not realize what the public schools are like nowadays and what exactly goes on in those schools on a daily basis.  Prescription and illegal drugs are rampant and the language a lot of the &quot;good&quot; kids use at home is not what they use outside of their home including in elementary school.  Just follow some kids, tweens and up in the mall and you will get an ear and eye full.   Kids are much more aware of things now than ever before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the people that are getting all bent out of shape over Adam&#8217;s performances and thinking that it will scar their children for life should have to spend a few days in elementary, jr. high and high schools.  I have seen 4th graders grab their crotch and tell another student &#8220;Bite me!&#8221; and some worse.  Believe me, most people do not realize what the public schools are like nowadays and what exactly goes on in those schools on a daily basis.  Prescription and illegal drugs are rampant and the language a lot of the &#8220;good&#8221; kids use at home is not what they use outside of their home including in elementary school.  Just follow some kids, tweens and up in the mall and you will get an ear and eye full.   Kids are much more aware of things now than ever before.</p>
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		<title>By: jun</title>
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		<dc:creator>jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if this has been posted already, but here&#039;s another newspaper review of Oakland show. The reporter says he did interviews with 5 of the Idols with lots of pictures which will follow in subsequent blog entries.

http://idol.blogs.pressdemocrat.com/10159/idol-tour-storms-through-oakland/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if this has been posted already, but here&#8217;s another newspaper review of Oakland show. The reporter says he did interviews with 5 of the Idols with lots of pictures which will follow in subsequent blog entries.</p>
<p><a href="http://idol.blogs.pressdemocrat.com/10159/idol-tour-storms-through-oakland/" rel="nofollow">http://idol.blogs.pressdemocrat.com/10159/idol-tour-storms-through-oakland/</a></p>
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		<title>By: hazuki</title>
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		<dc:creator>hazuki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I&#039;m not talking about Adam here, talking about Matt freaking Giraud. Holy cow, did anyone else besides me check out the Hard to Handle VIDEO in Oakland, possibly the best one YET, imo. I mean seriously, that piano solo is amazing, holy shit. The performance is just amazing,and better everytime  as well. I cant get enough of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;m not talking about Adam here, talking about Matt freaking Giraud. Holy cow, did anyone else besides me check out the Hard to Handle VIDEO in Oakland, possibly the best one YET, imo. I mean seriously, that piano solo is amazing, holy shit. The performance is just amazing,and better everytime  as well. I cant get enough of it.</p>
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		<title>By: weareallinnocent</title>
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		<dc:creator>weareallinnocent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But again, my original point is that the expectation by some families of a family-friendly environment on the tour isn&#039;t silly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree with that.

I don&#039;t agree, however, with the posts above by others suggesting that the show did not &quot;warn&quot; of what might be possible on tour.  Adam did Ring of Fire, after all.  :-)  Love it or hate it, that performance was undeniably suggestive and sensual -- even w/o the neck raring back, lip-licking, and &quot;accidental&quot; flipping of the shirt while feeling his way, so to speak.  LOL  And he did WLL on the show, too -- with the acapella &quot;Woman....&quot; and all that goes with that, except now he&#039;s adding a mic stand, that literally adds very little, imo.   He did quite a mighty hip thrust in PTFM, as I recall, and he came dangerously close to a crotch grab on Satisfaction too.  So...

In my view, no one&#039;s coming in ignorant to the possibilities unless they did not watch the show.  And if that&#039;s the case, the problem is not about Idol providing mixed messages about what to expect this year, from this group.

Ultimately, I think it&#039;s a tempest in a teapot.  Because young kids are not going to get it, and if they do, &quot;protecting&quot; them ended long before Adam hit the stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But again, my original point is that the expectation by some families of a family-friendly environment on the tour isn&#8217;t silly.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree with that.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree, however, with the posts above by others suggesting that the show did not &#8220;warn&#8221; of what might be possible on tour.  Adam did Ring of Fire, after all.  <img src='http://3888.voxcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Love it or hate it, that performance was undeniably suggestive and sensual &#8212; even w/o the neck raring back, lip-licking, and &#8220;accidental&#8221; flipping of the shirt while feeling his way, so to speak.  LOL  And he did WLL on the show, too &#8212; with the acapella &#8220;Woman&#8230;.&#8221; and all that goes with that, except now he&#8217;s adding a mic stand, that literally adds very little, imo.   He did quite a mighty hip thrust in PTFM, as I recall, and he came dangerously close to a crotch grab on Satisfaction too.  So&#8230;</p>
<p>In my view, no one&#8217;s coming in ignorant to the possibilities unless they did not watch the show.  And if that&#8217;s the case, the problem is not about Idol providing mixed messages about what to expect this year, from this group.</p>
<p>Ultimately, I think it&#8217;s a tempest in a teapot.  Because young kids are not going to get it, and if they do, &#8220;protecting&#8221; them ended long before Adam hit the stage.</p>
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		<title>By: Cate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cate</dc:creator>
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