American Idol Top 7 Wrap Up And Predictions

Hee. I usually hate the “choose a side episode”, but I’m actually looking forward to it tonight. Is that cruel?

i chose matt in the pool, hope i’m right
oh when will the time come when it’ll be possible to pick danny and win the points….

I think Allison is going to be going home tonight. She turned in a bad performance, has consistently been in bottom, and went first, the kiss of death. I do think the judges will save her.

see i figured adam as the chooser, because whatever group he is in would obviously not be bottom three…so i figured they had to take him out of the equation.

“And tonight, the kids will be split into groups, with some poor sucker stuck in the middle to choose sides. My money is on Danny who, unlike Melinda Doolittle and David Archuleta, will happily and cluelessly choose a side. Ugh.”

Oh mj, why did I laugh so hard when you said this? :laugh_tb: I totally see Danny in the middle, actually choosing a side, which will make people despise him more.

I’m sad that Matt may be the goner tonight. He’s as close to a favorite for me, as he’s gonna get. And I was hoping he would be great this season. But he never performed to his potential. What are the chances that they’ll save him?

First I picked Kris. Then I was thinking Matt. And now I’m thinking Allison. All I know is that I have 30 minutes to make my decision for the pool before I go to the gym!

Great recap MJ. I am holding my breath for Anoop tonight as I think he did deliever the best vocal, but frankly I think he’s done this repeatedly lately, but he only gets tepid props. I feel for him because he came closest to making me cry, and that’s my barometer for a ballad. Agreeance on Adam, mostly, lol. Kris not at all, but don’t fault me, I just don’t get much out of listening to him. Not love, not hate, just nada.

I will go now and sacrifice myself and my ego to the fun pool gods, who have been as indifferent to me, as I am to Kris. Karma, perhaps, lol?

Ciao, Matt…..

Will they save him? You bet Kara’s horny ass they will.

“à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Endless Loveà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ? Really Danny Gokey? You went there? Sorry if I sound hard-hearted, but Danny might as well talk about the dead wife anyway if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to clobber us over the head with his song choice. There was the heavenly harp, the poignant lyrics and the eyes pointed heavenward at the end. And then afterward that crush of people, sufficiently manipulated, lunging for their phones.

And before ya pounce on me, just let me say that if last season, a teary David Cook had sung à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“He Ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Heavy Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s My Brotherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  while prominently displaying his cancer wristbands, after which Simon said à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I know thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a very emotional song for you, congratulations,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  I would have been just as turned off. OK?”

Ok, I pounced earlier and I know I am just a big ole softie(well, when it comes to that but not always) but I am NOT a big ole dummy, dum enough to be sufficiently manipulated to lung for my phone and vote for Danny when he sucked, I did not do that and David Cooks brother is still here and was then, BIG ole difference. It was awful and scary, yes but it is a whole nother thing when you cant touch or hug or just be with someone you love. Ok – I am done with that, I stayed away from that for weeks now too, I was doing SO good, bad day for me I guess???

So, the rest of what you said I pretty much agree upon – even Anoop – he sang very nicely – Adam was freaking fantastic and shook up the place in a much needed way and I just love me some Kris.

Oh, one more thing, if people went around saying, hey I hear your husband is dead, or tell people did you know she has a dead husband – how does that sound, why cant people just be a tad nicer, just say, his recently deceased spouse – or she passed away, she no longer with us but I think thats what sets me off when people say “dead wife” anyhow – ok – now I am done

I agree with folk. I think Adam pretty much has to be the chooser. Any group he’s in will obviously be safe, so what’s to chose?

Hopefully, ai ptb are soooooo over the split down the middle and pick a side schtick. The only one who has ever fallen for it was George Huff — all the rest did the same thing, sit in the middle. OK, Taylor found a way to pick both sides after Ryan double and triple forced him to pick (which Ryan never did to the other middlers). It’s dull, just stop.

Regarding the show going over time again last night–I’m in the Pacific time zone and had read about the overshoot here before watching. With one singer left to go, it was only 8 till the hour. I thought, maybe they clipped something out to make things fit. But of course Lil had to wait until “after the break.” I timed it–they ran 5 and a quarter minutes of commercials. That’s where the time is going. Not the judges yapping on, not mindless banter between Ryan and Simon or Coke spots with chosen contestants, not even the fourth judge. That stuff is all part of the show, for better or worse. But the ads are simply out of control. 5 minutes of commercial in one gulp? It’s like the viewing equivalent of a butter, bacon fat, and fake cheese double-decker sandwich.

The last two weeks my gut told me to put all my points on Anoop. This week, my gut says Matt or Allison. So now that I have 10 points each on them, Anoop is probably going tonight, lol. Maybe I should put my points on Anoop to keep him safe.

I do think they will save anyone but Anoop or Lil.

I think Matt’s going home. Bad song. performed in the middle of the lineup. Oh well. Go Kris.

I really think Adam will be the one to choose between two groups tonight if they do it that way. Otherwise…easy choice, pick the group Adam is in. But I would hope Danny would be the “chooser”, so apt for the CO….and we could get yet another glimpse of his……humility.

Anyway….I am afraid for Matt tonight, simply because of the dialidol numbers for Lil (who had the weakest performance IMO). If it is Matt, I think the judges might use their save. Also if it is Allison or Kris, I think they would save them. Danny would get the save (should he need it, which I doubt). I don’t think they would save Lil or Anoop at this point. But ya know, they SHOULD save Anoop…he had the best performance last night in a lot of people’s opinions.

Especially in MY opinion….I loved his vocals and performance last night of Everything I Do. I kinda disagree with MJ if Anoop is around for disco night….I can see him doing either an Earth Wind and Fire (Fantasy for example) or any number of Bee Gee’s songs. But for shock appeal, there is a Blondie song from disco days that would also be a good fit. Just hope he makes it through tonight!!!

Good luck to everyone’s favorite!!!

I’m not sure they’ll save Matt, either. I think Simon has given up on him and it has to be unanimous.

I hate the chose the group night, yuck.

I hope Anoop just stays the heck out of the bottom 3; he really did have the best vocal of the night. I liked Kris next and then Adam. Shame at least one of my favorite 3 of the night is bound to end up in the bottom 3.

Good critique overall mj, but a couple disagreements.

I thought Allison was better than you did. It was too low for her at the beginning, but she redeemed herself and sounded good. I am not crazy about the song either, but she performed it well.

Kris was OK, but it was too much softness and sucking up the microphone for me, it didn’t play well on TV for me, but I didn’t detect the pitchiness that some have.

Adam screamed, I am sorry, I like him and appreciate his different take but to open your mouth and yell is not singing, it’s irritating. You were dead on with your summaries of Anoop and Danny, and Matt sang an awful song, awful.

Lil was better than you give her credit for. She phrased the song to fit her style and good for her for snapping back. I liked it.

Matt and Anoop will be vulnerable and Matt will leave, I think. And you are so right on why these people cannot fit like 11 minutes of actual performances into an hour show, it’s ridiculous. I know they have commercials every 10 seconds and endless Fox promos, but come on, they know what they need to do.

I think that it depends on what tptb are trying to accomplish with the chooser. If they want to depimp Danny, he will be the chooser, as if he is smart he will resist the urge to stand next to Adam, the only obvious safe person, imho.

If they want to elect Adam as the offishul CHOSEN ONE, then they use him, he does something all smart contestants do, and is now not only the most talented but the sweetest, most kind contestant evah.

I think that is what will happen. ……unless they just want to humiliate Lil.

File these and all other theories under grassy knoll and hidden agendas.

Logically, they have to either use the save tonight or not use it at all. If they were to wait until next week, then in what SHOULD be “top 5 week” they’d end up with six contestants instead of five performing two songs apiece. since they can’t even wrap their brains around fitting comments from all 4 judges into the allotted time-frame, imagine the chaos of them trying to fit in two extra songs!

I think it will be Matt cause I don’t believe he’s as popular as Kris, Allison and Anoop in the younger demo. I noticed yesterday on Twitter that Anoop was in the top 10 trending topics on twitter. (Adam was the only other contestant in that list).
Matt probably doesn’t get as many text votes.

I don’t believe Lil is going to be B3, she went last and there’s a big part of the audience that will vote for her no matter what.

Regarding the show going over time again last nightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m in the Pacific time zone and had read about the overshoot here before watching. With one singer left to go, it was only 8 till the hour. I thought, maybe they clipped something out to make things fit. But of course Lil had to wait until à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“after the break.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  I timed ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’they ran 5 and a quarter minutes of commercials. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s where the time is going.

Well they have to do that towards the end of Idol to pay for those nifty 30 second skips we get in the first 50 minutes of Fringe.

I think they need to put Matt out of his misery tonight and let him rest up for the tour. A summer of playing live should beat his nerves into submission and then he can possibly make some sort of album, because the guy can sing.

Sadly, I am thinking they just might use the save tonight, though- next week is Disco and Adam is bound by all that is Holy to be securely safe.
That could make a double elimination oh so scrumptious as there are sure to be so many train wrecks that they can virtually pick and choose who to let go and as long as one of them is Lil I sure won’t complain.

folk
Apr 15th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
see i figured adam as the chooser, because whatever group he is in would obviously not be bottom threeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦so i figured they had to take him out of the equation.

I agree! And Adam, having class, will not choose a group! He’ll do what Melinda and David did.

loosegoose
Apr 15th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Regarding the show going over time again last nightà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m in the Pacific time zone and had read about the overshoot here before watching. With one singer left to go, it was only 8 till the hour. I thought, maybe they clipped something out to make things fit. But of course Lil had to wait until à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“after the break.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  I timed ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’they ran 5 and a quarter minutes of commercials. Thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s where the time is going. Not the judges yapping on, not mindless banter between Ryan and Simon or Coke spots with chosen contestants, not even the fourth judge. That stuff is all part of the show, for better or worse. But the ads are simply out of control. 5 minutes of commercial in one gulp? Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s like the viewing equivalent of a butter, bacon fat, and fake cheese double-decker sandwich.

Oh I know! The commercials get worse and worse every year!!

I am concerned about Kris tonight. Last week I could feel the rally of voting because of DI’s prediction, but I didn’t feel it so much last night. However, Kris did have, arguably, a great performance last night, and I imagine the people who really found it awesome threw him a lot of votes. I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up in the bottom three, but I would be if he goes home.

Will the save come into play tonight?, is what I’m wondering. Here are my guesses on saving, if any of the contestants would be the bottom vote-getter on tonight’s show:

Adam – definitely saved
Danny – definitely saved
Allison – after Simon’s comments last night, definitely saved
Kris – probably saved
Anoop – after having great performances the past two weeks, probably saved
Matt – most likely not saved, but I’m unsure because he’s been so up and down
Lil – not saved (too mouthy and she’s clearly fallen from the judges/producers’ heights)

I imagine Matt will go home (although I worry about Kris and Allison!!!), but a strong part of me wants to ignore DI’s reading and say it’s Lil. There might have been something REALLY messed up with her line last night. I would never have expected her to rise above Adam and almost Danny… something just doesn’t seem right, and since really no one was called safe, DI could be wrong. The last several weeks, America has voted off the worst person of that week, so maybe they will this week as well? We can only hope.

MJ, I totally agree with your assessment of Lil.

I’m also wondering if they’ll split the contestants into groups this year. That idea is so old and worn out that I’m hoping for something else. IMO, the results shows have been much better this year, so maybe there is some hope for an original idea. We shall see.

I definitely don’t think Anoop’s going home tonight. I think Matt might. Kris has been at the bottom of DI 2 weeks in a row now, although I hope its not him.
I really think you should give Anoop more credit. Danny sounds the same week in and week out, take’s NO risks and if Anoop had gotten half as much pimping from the judges as Danny- he would have been in an even better position.

Oh and how I wish it were Lil going home.

The judges not all commenting was so very dum, why not leave all judges in and take out sitting with Danny and someone else, sitting there wasting time talking to Ryan – just to pimp them up some more?? It wasnt fair to the other contestants anyways, it was a weird show, blah really except for Adam and Kris – I got my pretty ballad from Kris and then a whole lot of fun and energy from Adam

see i figured adam as the chooser, because whatever group he is in would obviously not be bottom threeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦so i figured they had to take him out of the equation.

They can do some sort of spin like they did last year. Everyone knew that whatever group David was in it would be the safe one, even Cook himself knew that, but they had him in the wrong group and switched just at the end. I think to create a WTF?! moment. They could do something similar this year.

I like the group thing, not ashamed of saying. It makes it more entertaining.

bocketybee
Apr 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Logically, they have to either use the save tonight or not use it at all. If they were to wait until next week, then in what SHOULD be à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“top 5 weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d end up with six contestants instead of five performing two songs apiece. since they canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even wrap their brains around fitting comments from all 4 judges into the allotted time-frame, imagine the chaos of them trying to fit in two extra songs!

Sadly, I am thinking they just might use the save tonight, though- next week is Disco and Adam is bound by all that is Holy to be securely safe.
That could make a double elimination oh so scrumptious as there are sure to be so many train wrecks that they can virtually pick and choose who to let go and as long as one of them is Lil I sure wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t complain.

Ooh, very good points. I would have to agree!

oh i think mjs “problem” with anoop is pretty justified…he is inconsistent and just not that good. plain old…flat out…not a winner.

Maybe they’ll make three groups, and tell Lil (or someone, but hopefully Lil because it’d be hilarious) that she’s bottom three and she has to pick the group of two who’s there with her. That’d be kind of awesome, in a really sick way.

There’s an easy way to fix the Danny problem. Last year they switched the groups around at the last minute to keep the audience guessing. And in the end, who cares if the group is obvious? It’s the picking that provides the entertainment.

Which group do you think you’re in…Danny?

Does he pick the obvious winners group, or the losers? It’s evil. heh.

Whoever gets Huff moved gets put in a no win situation. With that in mind I hope it’s Danny but fear it will be Adam.

I’m not feeling very confident about anything tonight. I can’t make a prediction and although I think Lil should leave I doubt she will.

My fave was Kris not only for cool song choice but for really understanding the song and singing straight from his heart. His best performances happen he puts that raw emotional honesty into the song. If you can touch me like that I’ll forgive a less than perfect vocal. That said I still don’t think he was pitchy at all. A little unsteady in his lower register but it was still the right note.

Which may be why am not on the Adam love train since IMO he is the other way around, an amazing showman and technically blows you away with his vocal ability, but I’m still trying to look past the lightshow and the outfits and the mannerisms to find Adam. I do appreciate his more restrained efforts like ToMT. Wild Thing was sort of a step back to PTFM for me.

Anoop had a gorgeous vocal on a song I actually like, but I found myself agreeing with Tarantino that he needs more, I dunno, “oomph” to his ballads, otherwise they come off a little too smooth.

I was a big fan of Allison in the beginning but I’m starting to lose the love for some reason…tonight she definitely had a bad vocal, though it sounded more like a hoarse voice than a performance deficit on her part. Like spirit was willing but vocal cords were weak kinda thing. And bad song choice, for sure.

Matt is another I try to pull for but dude just cannot shake the nerves for some reason…he seemed fine starting off, maybe sang “around” the melody too much with his runs, but totally lost the song somewhere in the middle. (note to Randy: that was pitchy.) Matt might be in trouble tonight

I don’t like what Lil did to her song and Danny did not deserve his positive comments from the judges.

My ranking from top to bottom:
Kris
Anoop
Adam
Lil
Allison
Matt
Danny

My B3: Matt, Allison, Lil
Going home: Matt, though it should be Lil

If Kris truly is B3/going home as DI seems to show (and I know they were off last week, but this is 2 weeks in a row Kris has scored dead last) then I would hope the judges use the Save.

My fave was Kris not only for cool song choice but for really understanding the song and singing straight from his heart. His best performances happen he puts that raw emotional honesty into the song. If you can touch me like that Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll forgive a less than perfect vocal. That said I still donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think he was pitchy at all. A little unsteady in his lower register but it was still the right note.

TOTALLY AGREE. He was unsteady (a bit), NOT pitchy.

see i figured adam as the chooser, because whatever group he is in would obviously not be bottom threeà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦so i figured they had to take him out of the equation.

Here is a great explanation of why Adam would never be used as the Huff.

I picked Lil to go home, totally ignoring her placement on DialIdol. I hope I’m right. So far, I’ve gotten them all right. (Danged “Bonus Questions” keep doing me in.)

Well, I put all my points on Allison. She went first, her performance wasn’t good, she’s been scraping by every week due to the lack of a sizable diehard fanbase and Simon said that she was good, even though she wasn’t. All the makings of an Idol exit, IMO.

I thought Kris was the worst of the night (even though he’s one of my favs) but I think he secured enough votes to stay around. I do think that he’ll be joining Matt & Allison in the bottom 3, however.

I’m thinking Matt, Anoop was just two good and got the props. Matt was a little off and was thrown under the bus by Kara no less.

The DI score is very telling. Last weeks results showed Kris to have a healthy text voter base, didn’t even sniff the bottom 3 after an early show four judge beat down. Matt got bottom 2 on a middle of the pack DI score, this is the first time Matt has seen the bottom half of the DI scores IIRC. I doubt Matt has the text voter base. I don’t see his fans going out and plunking down cash for a go phone and a month of unlimited texting for him.

I don’t think they’ll save Matt either, he’s been saved once already with the wildcard and Simon has to keep it in reserve for his new girl pick, Allison.

And in the end, who cares if the group is obvious? Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the picking that provides the entertainment.

Yes, they don’t care if it’s obvious. It’s twisting the knife in the Huff that is the “entertainment” value. As described in the link that Buderschnookie posted, there is no way to not get some segment of the audience to like you less if you are the Huff. Adam appears to be TCO, so he will not be the Huff (plus he’s pretty unflappable). It will either go to Danny so he can be depimped or Matt/Anoop because TPTB seem to like playing mind games on them (and they fall for them)

I agree with folk. I think Adam pretty much has to be the chooser. Any group heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s in will obviously be safe, so whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s to chose?

Well, last year they had the groups mixed up until the last second, when they had David Cook switch groups with Syesha (after initially sending David to the Stools of Doom side of the stage), then tried to get Archuleta to choose. So, they messed around with both people who’d never been in the bottom 3. This year we have 3 who’ve never been in the bottom 3- Kris, Danny, and Adam. My guess is they’ll find a way to use the fact that, even though he’s never been in the bottom 3, people have worried about Kris for the last 2 weeks. They could essentially do the same thing as last year- put Kris and Adam in separate groups to begin with, then do a last minute switch to maximize the confusion. If Kris is really in the bottom 3 then it would stay ambiguous til Danny chooses/ refuses to choose a group, or they could have Kris and Adam in a group together, than at the last second have a shocking switcheroo, sending Kris to the bottom 3 group.

All of these thoughts about how the producers can mess with people are starting to give me a headache. Maybe they’ll find a new game to play tonight instead. Yeah, I don’t think so either.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Endless Loveà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ? Really Danny Gokey? You went there? Sorry if I sound hard-hearted, but Danny might as well talk about the dead wife anyway if heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going to clobber us over the head with his song choice. There was the heavenly harp, the poignant lyrics and the eyes pointed heavenward at the end.

His best bet is to probably stay away from love songs for the rest of the season. They were all written with his wife in mind.

I think Adam will be the one to pick the group because the group with him in it will too obviously be the assumed top group.

Then again, they may not even do it that way.

In a perfect world, Lil would pick a group.

Danny… picking a side is so in his character. Going home-Matt but I wish it would be Lil

My suggestion for the chooser is for them to walk over to the judges table and choose that four panel mess. It would be classic. They could sit on Simon’s lap.

I think MJ is right and my fav Anoop is heading home tonight. :sad_wp:

While I think he was one of the best last night, he was buried by TPTB at the dreaded #2 slot and I don’t think the actual order on DI is reliable.

Don’t think they’ll save him either. It’s clear from their positioning of him & Kris, that they’d prefer Kris to stick around.

Really hope MJ is wrong, lol!

But then again, the show ran over AGAIN (WTF?!!?) despite fewer judges critiques, so many may have missed her tussle with Simon.

Poor Seacrest must be losing his mind with these overruns. I imagine him pitching a fit backstage. Ryan likes to run a well oiled machine. This current mess must be making his head explode.

Last night, I thought it was likely Anoop going home, but I suppose it could be Matt. (I’m living in denial that Kris’s departure is even an option). So, if it’s Matt, I just want to say:

You hit some rank notes my friend. And, your falshitto hurts my ears. BUT – your big brother commitment is awesome. And you have mad piano skillz. Not just “hey, that American Idol guy knows how to play piano” kind of skills. But, for real, “man, that dude can really play the piano” sort of skills.

LOL, I would love for Danny to be chooser. He’ll be so thrilled for the attention that he’ll take leave of his senses and *actually choose a group*, gasp. (Which is fine cause I’m tired of these kids being sensible and sitting in the middle.)

I seriously donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t understand what you have against Anoop, MJ. U chose him last week too when he was good. I definitely donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s going home tonight. I think Matt might. Kris has been at the bottom of DI 2 weeks in a row now, although I hope its not him.

mj actually gave Anoop a very good review last night and didn’t undermine it in this post. (“The best of last night were Kris Allen, Anoop Desai and Adam Lambert.”) She’s just predicting that he’s likely to have drawn the fewest votes last night. I thought Anoop was terrific last night, too, but I predict him to be in trouble myself. Like it or not, he was set up to fail:

1. Early placement (#2) in the performance order — always a serious handicap.

2. Critiqued by the irrelevant judges (only Simon’s “opinion” matters as far as swaying voters).

3. Followed by another (love it or hate it) buzzworthy Adam performance.

4. Previous appearances in the bottom 3, which mark him as vulnerable prey.

It ain’t fair, but nothing on Idol ever is.

(And I actually agreed with every single one of mj’s critiques this week — a first, I think! “Falling Slowly” is at 33 on the iTunes Top 100 charts, so clearly a lot of us liked Kris’s performance last night!)

I really think Adam will be the one to choose between two groups tonight if they do it that way. Otherwiseà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦easy choice, pick the group Adam is in. But I would hope Danny would be the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“chooserà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ , so apt for the COà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦.and we could get yet another glimpse of hisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦humility.

Or they could always pull the Cook corollary where they switched David at the last minute, with a lame “Too many Cooks in the kitchen” witticism. Which side Danny chooses is just as entertaining as the added drama of Anoop’s, Kris’ and Matt’s fanbases freaking out when they realize that they’re the bottom group.

Someone in a previous has actually chosen a group. Was it Scott Savol?

Really- There’s no freaakin way Lil Rounds is heading home. She’s got VFTW,, not to mention she’s the only black belter left.

Someone else, who doesn’t deserve to go home, will be gone. It’s between Matt and Anoop. I HOPE it’s Allison or Kris so they can use the save. I doubt they’ll use it on Anoop, but they may use it on Matt. Only problem is, he has no chance of making top 3. It’s best they save it for the folks who can.

Matt is going home. I feel bad for the guy. His recap (from earlier) sounded so much better. Poor guy just can’t shake off the nerves or get them from screwing up his voice. For weeks I keep complaining that he was putting in all this falsetto that he never hit. It finally occurred to me that he probably does hit the notes when he’s not in front of millions of people.

Kris was really good. It was the first time I thought he was really good in a real world way. Not just I like that guy when he’s on Idol, but I like that guy and might consider buying what he’s selling.

Adam was as entertaining as always. Allison was disappointing. Anoop always bores me, Lil was as awful as always, and just when I thought I had gotten over my Danny hate he sang Endless Love with a harp and looked to the heavens at the end of the song. aaaaaand the hate is back.

I feel like I agree with your wrap ups every week, but this week, I wouldn’t have changed a word. Agree with every single performance review and ranking. Poor Matt is really losing it. He’s like the new Brooke White, maybe that’s why I have an affinity, haha. Too bad he doesn’t have her fanbase, or he could make Top5 like her.

And I’m changing my prediction… may be COMPLETELY wrong, but I’m going with my gut…

Isn’t that why they call this The Huff because George Huff was the first one they did this to and he chose a side?

I agree that Adam should be the chooser cause its too obvious that hes just the front runner, the favorite and getting all the praise. Anyone would know regardless if that is Danny or not, that whichever group Adam would be will be the safe one. In previous season, its kinda hard to say but for this bunch of contestants, its too easy to know. Better yet, Ryan avoids to do such a thing because its old already.

(And I actually agreed with every single one of mjà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s critiques this week à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  a first, I think! à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Falling Slowlyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  is at 33 on the iTunes Top 100 charts, so clearly a lot of us liked Krisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s performance last night!)

That’s so cool! Ugh, I wish they hadn’t closed that loophole that let us see how the studio versions were charting.

I think the B3 will be Kris, Allison, and Matt.

The “chooser” will be Danny.

Anoop, Adam, and Lil will be the “safe” group, which is “confusing” because Adam and Anoop will be in the same group. Most people would think that Adam is obviously safe and Anoop is obviously in the B3.

Danny’s the only one with the audacity to actually choose. I’m sure it’ll be him.

I have to confess – Top 7 is my favorite results show. I love the “choosing a side” gimmick. Heh.

Kris…..I have to stick by his song as having part one and part two. Part one was not emotional, it was just off. Part two was quite good. It is funny to see Kris fight to get to a falsetto that Adam could do yawning. That being said, the false was true and it worked. It is a part one C and a part two A which average a B.

Now it’s getting hard. Not because there are so many I love, but the ones I love just aren’t going through. I really like Matt but I don’t think he has much hope, this will probably be his night and I don’t think they will save him. If it’s not Matt it will be Anoop and with last night’s performance he definitely deserves to stay. Oh the pain of elimination night!

lol never mind, I got the joke (late, as usual).

I put my points on Matt

Do they do the choosing sides thing every year, I mean have they done it every season?
Honestly, I don’t think Anoop will make a bottom 3 appearance tonight(Maybe its because I don’t want him to be there). I think it’ll be Matt, Lil and Kris/Allison. Maybe even Danny looking at DI raw numbers. Can’t say what will happen. But it really gets harder every week. With the exception of Lil I think we have the cream of the idol season right there. I like all of them and its hard to see them go.

Anoop could be this year’s Sayesa…wasn’t she in the bottom a couple of times and ended up third??? It doesn’t seem that Simon cares for Anoop judging from his bored expression last night, but maybe he was just annoyed with the 2-judge criticisms. The judges have to know that there is a lot of vote splitting going on among fans of Kris, Anoop and Matt and may think if whomever of those three is the lowest vote getter tonight, it would be best to not use the save, regardless of who it is. So rethinking my position….if they save anyone tonight, it would be Allison.

Matt is going home. He won’t be saved.

His best bet is to probably stay away from love songs for the rest of the season. They were all written with his wife in mind.

Staged with harp, and looking heavenward? There are love songs, and there are love songs….just sayin’

not to mention sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the only black belter left.

I didn’t know she knew Karate!

Seriously guys, Danny is soooo reading here, and while he’s not the best at taking good advice, I think he is going to flip the script and do something different. He won’t choose sides, maybe he will drop to his knees and pretend to look for his contact lens, some will mistake it for praying, and declare him the second coming, he won’t budge however, and as they are cutting to commercial tptb will be chagrined at yet another lost opportunity to depimp him. *waves to Danny*

I would like it to be Lil who leaves as she’s the contestant that I enjoy listening to the least but I have a feeling that it will be Matt or Anoop and I don’t think the judges will use the save on either of them.

I’m not sure who they’ll choose to do the picking of a group … Adam seems the obvious one but from what we’ve seem to know about him I sense that he wouldn’t choose and go down the Bo, Melinda, Archuletta route.

MJ makes a good point that Danny’s one of the one’s who possibly would take the bull by the horns and choose (I laughed out loud when I read her piece in the opening of the thread …lol) .. and it makes for better TV and more water cooler discussion if someone does choose and make a bit of an arse of themselves.

Too bad there’s no Nigel to hint darkly at a ! shocking!! results show tonight!

Seriously, though, while there’s no way a real shock boot is happening (i.e., Adam or Danny), a mini-shock boot – Kris, or even Anoop, or Allison – is perfectly possible. I’m bracing for it.

That said, if I had to bet on one person, I’d put my money on Matt. I’m not a betting woman, however.

You know the Huff was set up pretty well this time around. There are three peeps who have never hit the seal: Adam, Danny, and Kris. Nobody got overwhelmingly positive comments except Anoop and Allison who have both been in the B3 before despite having well received performances. So, if say Danny is the Huff, and they split up Adam and Kris, well then you have two peeps who have never hit the bottom in different groups. America *might* have turned on Adam for going OTT again, or they *might* have boughten into Randy’s pitchy tourettes with Kris. If they put Kris with Ally and Lil, and Adam with Matt and Anoop, it’s a dilemma. What does Gokey do? Say he goes with Adam’s group, then they ask Adam to trade with Lil and ask Danny if he wants to change his mind, he looks douchey if he switches places and deserts Matt and Anoop , and also looks douchey for NOT switching places and maybe not giving Adam and the girls their props. Should be interesting.

As for the save, I think they are going to be reluctant to use it tonight if only for logistical purposes. Obvs the buddy system of judging didn’t work, so repeating another week of seven performances is a problem production wise. If they lose a singer it helps solve the time problem, and if they still want to use the save, they can use it for disco week when so many people will be outside of their wheelhouse it’s understandable if someone has a bad week. All that said, I don’t think they really want to lose Allison or Kris, so should be a lot of drama if either of those two end up having the lowest votes.

Have not read the comments yet, but will. Just jumping in to say, I wouldn’t change my pick if I were you, MJ. I have limited history with the show, but IIRC, when a contestant struggles and is inconsistent, they tend to leave after their best! That, and if Anoop is splitting votes with Kris and Matt, imo being good doesn’t help him when they get poor reviews from the judges. Too much tendency to “save” among the voters.

Ok, that’s all for now. LOL Oh, except:

And before ya pounce on me, just let me say that if last season, a teary David Cook had sung à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“He Ainà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t Heavy Heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s My Brotherà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  while prominently displaying his cancer wristbands, after which Simon said à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I know thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a very emotional song for you, congratulations,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  I would have been just as turned off. OK?

YES, THIS!!! I’ll hear no more, “It’s the producers pimping the deceased wife, not poor sweet innocent heartbroken grieving Danny.” Blech, blech, blech!!!

Seriously guys, Danny is soooo reading here, and while heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s not the best at taking good advice, I think he is going to flip the script and do something different. He wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t choose sides, maybe he will drop to his knees and pretend to look for his contact lens, some will mistake it for praying, and declare him the second coming, he wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t budge however, and as they are cutting to commercial tptb will be chagrined at yet another lost opportunity to depimp him. *waves to Danny*

LOL .. another spluttering coffee over the keyboard moment.

I guess he’ll also be wearing the strikingly white jacket again that he wore a few weeks back .. whilst Adam will be sporting a pair of flashing devil horns.

Perhaps they’ll tell Danny he’s safe then get the rest of the contestants to stand in a huddle .. then Danny is asked to walk amongst them and as he does they part like the Red Sea into those safe and those in the bottom three.

I don’t think Adam has to be the chooser for there to be drama and tension.

Just think, if the groups were Adam, Lil (worst performance last night), and Anoop (bottom 3 last two weeks) and then Kris, Allison, and Matt (also a bad performance) and Danny has to choose.

Internet fans may not see the surprise in that but I bet a lot of casual fans would. In my work pool, the points are pretty much split straight down the middle between Matt and Lil. Both who should be in the bottom 3 but wouldn’t be based on that setup (which I do think is entirely possible.).

Bottom 3 for me would be KRIS, LIL, and MATT. LIL should go home. She’s a great singer but never an ARTIST! 5 weeks in a row and never did a great performance!

Go ANOOP!! Be more creative when you choose your songs as well as your stage performance next week. Over all you’re the complete package of an Artist. Do your best all the time and pray. God bless!

Perhaps theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll tell Danny heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s safe then get the rest of the contestants to stand in a huddle .. then Danny is asked to walk amongst them and as he does they part like the Red Sea into those safe and those in the bottom three.

:lol_tb: Holy Gokey, that would be a Huff of biblical proportions. :cheese1_ee:

B3 in terms of last night’s performances should be Allison, Matt and Lil with Lil going to home, but I don’t see that happening.

With a bit of a heavy heart I am putting my points on Matt to go home. They might save him if the “girls” can convince Simon (he seems to have lost interest).

I agree that Danny being the chooser is likely, and that he will actually make his selection.

And off-topic I know, but can I just give a shout out to the LA Superior Courthouse juror assembly room for having internet? I’ve been here 8 hours and it’s the only thing keeping me from jumping off the ledge.

I hope that the top 5 for AI this year would be Adam, Anoop, Matt, Danny, and Kris!!

I was not a fan of Kris last night. I don’t get his appeal, and for the first time a contestant is really irritating me. I find him such a generic bland singer. However, since so many people are split on this song he must have made a bold choice and I give him props for that. He must have stepped up to get the haters. Ha. I have seen a lot of people across the web that did enjoy him so good for him. I really did love Anoop and I totally understand why Danny will win this competition.

Adam did exactly what he needed to do for some core fans. At this point he needs to concentrate on his career after Idol. There’s been a little of his “selling out” worry from some fan segments lately. He’s been getting a lot of praise for being authentic and a real artist. For being “real”. Last night was his first true glamrock performance imo and it made a lot of his fans very happy. Fans that will follow him after Idol. For many, it was their favorite performance of his ever. Realistically most of the Idol audience isn’t going to care about you after Idol. Adam doesn’t even fit the Idol profile, is definitely not most of the traditional Idol viewing audience’s “cupe of tea”, so I think he needs to be careful here and stick to who he is. I know some fans think I’m being pessimistic. But I think he should do exactly what he’s doing and shoot for leaving 4th than balladeering his way to a win. I think he deserves to win, but I believe he’d sacrifice a solid fanbase in doing so. He’s got so much media support now. Support from some cool people in Hollywood. Support from those elusive 18 to 35 yr olds.

People that work with him adore him. Find him sincere and a real artist. One of the backup singers twittered about him last night:

“”No favorites here. But I do like Adam, he’s an artist through and through.”

“Adam needs his own show! He’s ready-made for the stage! Gotta love that.”

“Adam is just a freak of nature. And a very cool person to work with… It’s really refreshing having him on the show”
She’s never spoken about one Idol before.

I do not think Matt will be saved. Both judges ripped him. It would not make sense to save Matt since ge would no doubt get the boot the following week. Better to use it next week in case the unexpected happens.

GwendolynD Apr 15th, 2009 at 6:09 pm

Someone in a previous has actually chosen a group. Was it Scott Savol?

Here is a list of each season’s top 7 choosers:

AI3: George Huff (the first)

AI4: Bo Bice

AI5: Taylor Hicks

AI6: Melinda Dolittle

AI7: David Archuleta

IIRC, only George Huff and Taylor Hicks did pick a group.

In season 5, Chris Daughtry and Elliott Yamin were in different groups of three. Chris was considered the frontrunner and TCO, but Elliott — who by that time was in the bottom 3 repeatedly — was Taylor’s best friend on the show. Taylor picked Elliott’s group, which turned out to be the top 3, but he also walked over to shake Chris’s hand in a gracious acknowledgement of his frontrunner status.

The theory posted over at TWoP is interesting, but I think the fact that Bo, Melinda and Archie were widely considered to be TCOs disproves it. The top 7 elimination drama is staged primarily to improve ratings and TPTB will wring any other advantage out of it that they can.

B3 will be Matt, Kris and Lil with Matt going home. I cannot see Anoop hitting the B3 even though he has become the cannon fodder among most opining public, probably from the very thin veil separating Anoop from Kris and Matt while Danny and Lil (esp. her) have managed to be completely insulated from strong feelings arising from K-M-A. Kris and Anoop are now 2 for 2 each with not so raving performances, and Matt is 3 down, hence I think he will be going home. It is also possible TPTB will put Anoop instead of Kris (no surprise here, given their obvious favorite between these 2) to alienate Matt’s fanbase to vote for Kris next week and once again leave Anoop to fend for himself again.

Last night was his first true glamrock performance imo and it made a lot of his fans very happy. Fans that will follow him after Idol. For many, it was their favorite performance of his ever.

THIS.

Reasons for having the save tonight:

1) Jennifer Hudson will be there. What a way to demonstrate that the Idol judges would have saved Jennifer (a final 7 bootee) than by using the Save the night she is there.

2) They have to do the save at some point (or people will be annoyed by them dangling it all the time). If they do it next week, they will have to have 6 contestants sing 2 songs and they are going to run over into the morning talk shows. Of course, it might be an excuse for them to cheap out (like in Season 6 when they had two Top 6′s) and not do two songs until final 4. But you can’t save the save until the last minute or everybody knows you are going to use it.

3) They have the convenient excuse of judging issues and Simon not getting to have his say.

4) It will be easier for them to engineer the boot of Lil next week (her fans will be complacent since she didn’t hit the seal this week and she’ll have to sing early in the rotation. Sometimes boots are delayed a week. I think they want her gone).

Reasons they won’t use the save:

1) The bootee is probably Matt and they don’t want to save him again. Matt wasn’t the worst last night, but it won’t strike many people as a huge injustice if he did get the boot.

2) They won’t have the save to dangle in front of contestants anymore.

does Adam play any instruments?

“The Huff” won’t work with Danny unless they put Adam in the bottom three group because Danny, like everybody, is going to think any group with Adam is the safe group. Since Adam is likely safe, he’s the one they’ll jerk around and tell to “pick a group.” Hopefully he’s ready for it and doesn’t play along.

I’m going all in on Matt for the office pool. I was thinking about dividing points up between Matt, Anoop, and Lil but it’s more fun to go big or go home. LOL

Bo, Melinda and Archie were widely considered to be TCOs

Carrie was the TCO, Melinda wasn’t ever the TCO though she was the best singer of her season, and at this time, after Hello, BJ, Little Sparrow and that week’s ABMB, David Cook was now co-TCO, if not the one who usurped Archie as the frontrunner.

Anoop definitely doesn’t deserve to be in the B3, but he didn’t deserve it last week either.
One encouraging sign for him: While I was dialing on the landline and texting with my cell, my mom was trying to call on her cell. She kept getting busy signals and couldn’t get through on his line until the last 45 minutes. We haven’t had that issue with his line for awhile. There were definitely a lot of people voting for him last night.

I have an ugly feeling Allison goes home but maybe judges save her???

Anoop could be this yearà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Sayesaà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t she in the bottom a couple of times and ended up third??? It doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t seem that Simon cares for Anoop judging from his bored expression last night, but maybe he was just annoyed with the 2-judge criticisms.

IMO Simon has had a bored expression for nearly everyone and everything this season. Did you see him totally engaged and smiling through the performance of Susan Boyle on Britian’s Got Talent last week? He wasn’t even smiling when he gave Adam a standing ovation. To me most of the time he looks like he’s suffering through it on AI.

Anoop definitely doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t deserve to be in the B3, but he didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t deserve it last week either.

I agree. I hope that he is not eliminated tonight.

I put my money on Matt going, for a variety of reasons noted by others above. The interesting thing, if this is how it plays out, is the judges’ save. For once, it really will depend on how well the contestant sings that piece of schlock, and if the evidence is correct (song snippet during phone # recap; Paula’s comments this morning on the radio show), Matt DID sing the hell out of the song in rehearsal. So it will come down to his nerves, and I think the judges would save him if he nailed it. And, in a way, I think they would be right to get rid of him if he failed to do so.

OF course, MJ, you may be right that it’s Anoop leaving. I don’t see anuyone else in danger of leaving, because if anyone else comes in last, he/she WILL be saved.

If they do it next week, they will have to have 6 contestants sing 2 songs and they are going to run over into the morning talk shows. Of course, it might be an excuse for them to cheap out (like in Season 6 when they had two Top 6à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s) and not do two songs until final 4.

THis is what I was thinking….they don’t want to deal with two songs and four judges until final 4, so they will use the save next week and have the six peeps do one song again. Maybe.

does Adam play any instruments?

I think he said he has a piano but isn’t very good/doesn’t know how to play? Not sure.

I’m betting on Matt going home tonight. He’s secondt o last on DI, Kris is last. Matt generally overpreforms and Kris generally underpreforms, so that’s what I’m basing my prediction on. I’m keeping it simplethis week.

As for the group-choosing thing, I actually enjoy it. Is that twisted of me? Hmm, maybe. I hope it’s Danny doing the choosing because anyone else will definately refuse to pick. In fact, I think Danny might, too. Maybe Lil Rounds? I can see her choosing.

allison will not go home! Kris may have tanked on dialidol, but he won’t go home either. He was brilliant. And Adam Lambert woke up the nearest other solar system. Matt got really nervous…but is soooo good…usually. Anoop should have been doing what he did last night weeks and weeks ago! Lil was horrible and snarky to Simon…ENOUGH! When I heard Gokey sing Endless Love with a HARP and look to the heavens above I threw up in my mouth a little.

hypertwink Apr 15th, 2009 at 7:16 pm

Carrie was the TCO, Melinda wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t ever the TCO though she was the best singer of her season, and at this time, after Hello, BJ, Little Sparrow and that weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ABMB, David Cook was now co-TCO, if not the one who usurped Archie as the frontrunner.

Although TCO means The Chosen One, usually there seems to be more than one TCO and TCOs can change during the competition — hence, TCO Lil’s downward spiral.

I agree with you about AI7, hypertwink, but I think Johnsy and Archie were the early co-TCOs. These are my opinions and YMMV. I could make a case for Bo and Melinda being TCOs, but that was then and this is now.

:grin1_ee:

Maybe they will change the rules and “extend” the save for a week or two – at least if they don’t “want” or need to use it……I would think they would want to save it for Allison, Danny, Adam or Kris and I don’t see any of them leaving this week or next- could be wrong though.

I believe the judges save has been already used last week when TPTB decided NOT to call on Kris for a B3 spot. He is back on the last spot n DI this week. Grantee DI is not TPTB, but at least it does not lie, and says what it sees. Having used DI few times, I believe in its assessment logic, within an acceptable margin of error. Even the judges new favorite Allison was not spared of the B3 spot on her weakest performance – Kris was. Hence I think it will be Matt/Kris without a save to exit this week

And off-topic I know, but can I just give a shout out to the LA Superior Courthouse juror assembly room for having internet? Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ve been here 8 hours and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the only thing keeping me from jumping off the ledge.

Jury duty? I did that a couple of years ago. Got to send a crackhead to prison

Carrie was the TCO, Melinda wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t ever the TCO though she was the best singer of her season, and at this time, after Hello, BJ, Little Sparrow and that weekà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ABMB, David Cook was now co-TCO, if not the one who usurped Archie as the frontrunner.

You guys are really impressing me with your analysis of this whole situation. I’m having a hard time remembering all of these situations. I remember Taylor’s “sorry buddy” moment with Chris as he walked over to the other group. And I remember Archie, because his reaction was pretty cute. The rest – I just cannot recall. I didn’t even remember who else was forced to do it other than Huff.

Also, I think that often the “TCO” and the “front-runners” (in votes) are NOT always the same thing. So, I really can’t speak to this theory at all.

B3 will be Matt, Kris and Lil with Matt going home. I cannot see Anoop hitting the B3 even though he has become the cannon fodder among most opining public, probably from the very thin veil separating Anoop from Kris and Matt while Danny and Lil (esp. her) have managed to be completely insulated from strong feelings arising from K-M-A. Kris and Anoop are now 2 for 2 each with not so raving performances, and Matt is 3 down, hence I think he will be going home. It is also possible TPTB will put Anoop instead of Kris (no surprise here, given their obvious favorite between these 2) to alienate Mattà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s fanbase to vote for Kris next week and once again leave Anoop to fend for himself again.

Are you saying that Kris has had two not so great performances? I know All She Wants to do Is Dance is one of them, but what’s the other? I don’t think you can count Falling Slowly as a bad performance. Because then you might as well count Angel Of Mine as not good either.

The way I see it, and I’m going by the judges opinions.
Allison, Danny – all good performances. (except one of Allison’s was bad, and heck I think all of Danny’s are bad)
Kris, Adam – one bad performance. (I figure people listen to Kara over Randy, and they listen to Simon over everyone)
Anoop – two bad performances.
Matt – three bad performances.
Lil – somewhere around 5 or 6 bad performances.

Hit the road Third Eye

I have no idea where to put my points on. I have a feeling I’ll be gaining zero points this week and then drop down to like 500th place. =P

Agree.

With Matt going home and no save.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The Huffà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t work with Danny unless they put Adam in the bottom three group because Danny, like everybody, is going to think any group with Adam is the safe group. Since Adam is likely safe, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the one theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll jerk around and tell to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“pick a group.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Hopefully heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ready for it and doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t play along.

I agree. It will def. be Adam that chooses, and if Danny ISN’T in the bottom three, maybe they’ll do what they did with David C. last year and switch his group at the last second.

Taylor picked Elliottà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s group, which turned out to be the top 3, but he also walked over to shake Chrisà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s hand in a gracious acknowledgement of his frontrunner status.

It’s funny how different impressions are, bc I remember thinking it was kind of p*&ckish of Taylor to shake his hand and then “turn away.” YMMV.

Are you saying that Kris has had two not so great performances? I know All She Wants to do Is Dance is one of them, but whatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the other? I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t think you can count Falling Slowly as a bad performance

I think the person meant ” Remember the time” from MJ night. I don’t think it was well received by the judges.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“The Huffà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  wonà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t work with Danny unless they put Adam in the bottom three group because Danny, like everybody, is going to think any group with Adam is the safe group. Since Adam is likely safe, heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the one theyà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ll jerk around and tell to à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“pick a group.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Hopefully heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s ready for it and doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t play along.

Unless Danny chooses Adam’s group, and then they do the Cook manuever and tell Adam to trade with someone in the other group. Then they ask Danny if he’s changed his mind and wants to follow Adam or stay put. They do like to switch it up with little twists.

Man, I’m gonna be freaking out tonight once either Kris Matt or Anoop hits the bottom. (which is obviously going to happen) I ended up putting 2 females and one male for the bonus question. I predict that I’ll be wrong, but I also predict that barely anyone else picked that. Which is a really stupid reason to do that but whatever.

I’m praying that Anoop and Kris survived bottom 3. Ahhhhhh.. If only Anoop got the pimp spot and all four judges could critique all of them. Then I would be so much more confident in these two guys.
Matt’s a goner.

I am not sure they will use the save for anyone but Danny or Adam, especially not for Anoop or Matt. I think whatever of the three soul brothers hit the bottom tonight they are going to have to let go and then, and only then, will the other two have a shot. Right now they are all fighting for the same audience voting block.

Once that happens, by the way, the real fan wars between the groupies of the two who are left are going to begin in ernest. MJ is going to be moderating her fingers off.

Bringing this over from Alan Sepinwall’s blog:

“I hate to be the anonymous poster with the attenuated relationship with a contestant and supposed inside information so you don’t have to believe me. But speaking about song choices, it isn’t quite simple. The list is often small and the producers sometimes intervene when certain contestants pick a unique song (unique in the sense it hasn’t been used before).

The contestant I know has been screwed over in song choices twice this season – both times told on Saturday or Sunday by producers to switch songs. The first time he was forced to switch songs, he ended up being panned very badly by Simon. This week, he chose End of the Road by Boyz II Men and was again told last minute it didn’t clear. From what I understand, this is quite common practice.”

Well, we all know the contestant being referred to is Anoop. And even though there’s nothing to prove its veracity, I for one totally believe it. I think Anoop’s producer-determined tenure on this show is drawing to an end – maybe not this week, but certainly soon.

The deck stacking is really getting on my nerves esp. hard this year, maybe because in the past my favorites have tended to be either TCO’s or TCRU’s and not as screwed over by this garbage.

I believe the judges save has been already used last week when TPTB decided NOT to call on Kris for a B3 spot. He is back on the last spot n DI this week. Grantee DI is not TPTB, but at least it does not lie, and says what it sees. Having used DI few times, I believe in its assessment logic, within an acceptable margin of error.

As much as I FIRMLY believe that TPTB manipulate the show, I do not think that it is necessarily so when it comes to the results vs. what you see on DialIdol. DI may give a glimpse or a hint at things, but they tend to do a bit of manipulation of their own, IMO, in order to make their accuracy rate look better.

More importantly, DI does not account for text votes, and over the past 3 seasons in particular, I’ve seen more and more people become rabid text voters as it is easier and quicker to send many many votes, with no busy signals.

Kris has been at the bottom of DI 2 weeks in a row now, although I hope its not him.

It’s true, but how does it square with him never having actually been in the bottom 3? Dial Idol obviously isn’t all that reliable….

IMO Simon has had a bored expression for nearly everyone and everything this season. Did you see him totally engaged and smiling through the performance of Susan Boyle on Britianà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s Got Talent last week? He wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even smiling when he gave Adam a standing ovation.

I did notice that – however if you get a chance go look at Adams performance last night – Simon is smiling and having a good time – it was the first time I noticed that on Idol. I think his critique of Adam an effort to mold him some more into what SImon wants to market – it was not a negative at all IMO.

I’d like to see them put a new spin on ‘The Huff’

Make three groups of two. Tell the 7th person that they are in the bottom 3, and make them pick who is in the bottom 3 with him/her.

It’s designed to make us hate the person they put in the middle. Why? We should be sympathetic to his situation. We’ve already seen twice in a row the 7th contestant sitting in the middle rather than being the bad guy. If we see someone do that tonight I’m going to throw something at the TV.

Also, I’m wondering if the Idol Brass realize that there are a lot of people who will stop watching the friggin’ show if Kris is booted, and of course even more if Adam goes (which I realize is near-impossible).

I don’t know if the Gokey-ites are as passionate about their guy, but I don’t believe the Lil, Anoop, Allison or Matt fans are. Without Kris, for me it’s mostly karaoke and a flaming campy Elvis.

From the grassy mole, uh, KNOLL:

On tour, wouldn’t it would be handy to have the two piano players right in a row? Scott can rise out of the floor playing the piano (no awkward entrance), then Matt can take over & reawaken the crowd just after.

Oh, but I don’t want Matt to go home tonight – I keep hoping that one week, he’ll say ‘screw it!’ and just blow the joint down with rock/soul piano awesomeness.

I’ve noticed Simon always has this weird look of a proud dad/sh!t-eating grin whenever Adam’s done performing. Even when he gave him hell for “Ring Of Fire” it was done in a strange, good-natured way.

I think his critique of Adam an effort to mold him some more into what SImon wants to market – it was not a negative at all IMO.

I agree, or he may just be trying to keep him in a check so he doesn’t alienate too many voters.

Jury duty? I did that a couple of years ago. Got to send a crackhead to prison

That would have the preferable outcome to my day today, but at least I’ve fulfilled my civic duty for at least a year.

I would think they would want to save it for Allison, Danny, Adam or Kris and I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see any of them leaving this week or next- could be wrong though.

Yes, but who are you putting your points on, Dante?

I fear that it’s Matt who will go home…and I fear that Kara has some nefarious and private plans to take him under her wing. So to Speak.

Her praise for his performances has been…strange. Bordering on inappropriate. To quote that funny woman over at ew.com, “She SO wants to tag his ass!”

I truly, truly don’t know why Lil continues to hang on, particularly since she is clearly stunningly miserable with this whole mess. I know she’s VfTW’s poster child right now, but that doesn’t account for the last month’s worth of icky.

I’m really, really hoping that they just freaking skip THE HUFF this year. It’s just….stupid.

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I think Simon just admires Adam’s sheer willingness to TRY ANYTHING ONCE. Simon has spent so many years watching quavering, terror-stricken half-talents bleat their way through tepid ballads that Adam has got to be a breath of fresh (albeit patchouli-scented) air.

He may go out, but he won’t go out timid, or playing the backstory (cough DEADWIFE cough) or pandering to the masses. And I think Simon is getting a huge kick out of that.

1) Jennifer Hudson will be there. What a way to demonstrate that the Idol judges would have saved Jennifer (a final 7 bootee) than by using the Save the night she is there.

Jennifer Hudson pre-recorded that performance a few weeks ago, didn’t she?

I don’t recall anything where they HAVE to use the save. Isn’t just for some major upset (like Daughtry was)? I can see them passing on the save altogether (unless it would come down to Danny or Adam). Cutting it off after next week makes sense because they will likely make at least some $$$$ off the Top 5 whoever they are.

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I hate to be the anonymous poster with the attenuated relationship with a contestant and supposed inside information so you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have to believe me. But speaking about song choices, it isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t quite simple. The list is often small and the producers sometimes intervene when certain contestants pick a unique song (unique in the sense it hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been used before).

The contestant I know has been screwed over in song choices twice this season – both times told on Saturday or Sunday by producers to switch songs. The first time he was forced to switch songs, he ended up being panned very badly by Simon. This week, he chose End of the Road by Boyz II Men and was again told last minute it didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t clear. From what I understand, this is quite common practice.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Well, we all know the contestant being referred to is Anoop. And even though thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s nothing to prove its veracity, I for one totally believe it. I think Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s producer-determined tenure on this show is drawing to an end – maybe not this week, but certainly soon.

The deck stacking is really getting on my nerves esp. hard this year, maybe because in the past my favorites have tended to be either TCOà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s or TCRUà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s and not as screwed over by this garbage.

Yeah, but I’m sure the producers make sure their favorites have all their songs cleared.

They’ll put the top 4 vote getters at the judges table and let them decide before giving the elimination whether one of the bottom three should go home tonight.

Adam, Danny and Lil will be among the top four, not sure who else.

Lil out of fear for herself next week will heavily argue that one of them should go home.

Sorry I haven’t read all three pages so I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this, but I think they should allow the judges who didn’t get to comment on the various performances last night, make some comments tonight.

Okay. I am behind in the pool as it is, so I’m going out on a limb and picking Lil to go. She SHOULD go.

Because, seriously, she sucks. I know people think she’s getting the votes that kept Syesha hanging on last year, but damn, at least Syesha had more than a couple really good weeks and could actually sing very well. Lil has not been good since she hit the top 13. At all. PLEASE GTFO MY SHOW.

And I continue to be amazed that people give so much weight to the VFTW voters. They have their fun every year, but I’ve never really seen them as making a huge impact on the vote. Megan lasted because, as bad as she was, there were people who actually liked her. (Not me.) But VFTW shifted to Scott and their votes didn’t help him at all. If Lil stays, it’s for other reasons, not because of the Worster vote.

The thing that de(impressed) me the most this week is the same thing that has struck me (not in a good way) every week: despite a huge library of possible songs to choose from, the contestants (including Adam), continue to make odd choices.

For instance, Adam has basically 80 years of cinema to choose from and he picks the completely non-musical BTBW? I can think of about 100 songs that wwould have showecased his voice better than that one. Sure he pulled it off, but it could have been a better song.

I think that basically, after going soft, funky, soft the last 3 weeks, Adam wanted go ‘head-bangin and BTBW fit the bill – also, i am willing to be his mom likes it (I also bet she was kind of hippee in her yournger years and digs stuff like BTBW and CGNS).

The analysis of the “choosing” episode is quite impressive, here. Kudos!

I have to say, all evidence points to Danny playing The Huff.

However, I have an alternative scenario for you all to noodle on:
Sometimes it seems the producers select the “nice guy/gal” and manipulate that for drama. We all know Anoop’s a nice guy, and we all know he’s been in bottom 3 a LOT. In this alternative, they identify Anoop as The Huff – which means he is told that he isa safe, right off the bat. Finally, he is told early on that he’s not going home… but then, he has to choose the rest of the top 4.

Yet ANOTHER alternative scenario:
The put the kids into 3 groups of 2. Danny is asked to pick his group but is NOT told that he is safe. He picks a group, which turns out to be the BOTTOM 3. Oooooh! Now THAT would be a shocker. DRAMA!

I have too much time on my hands tonight…

I’d say there is about an 80% chance the save gets used this week. If they wait till next week it will look like they are using it just to use it. If they don;t use it at all, it will seem silly having it next year.

I take that back, 100% chance NO ONE goes home this week.

Sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s got VFTW,, not to mention sheà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the only black belter left.

Didn’t know Lil was into karate.

Sorry to be so late, but I must call bullshit on the entire “save” situation.

No fucking way would they have used the save on Jennifer Hudson. There was already a rap on her that she was too arrogant about her voice and alienating to viewers. Simon would have given her the same sniffy we don’t care shit he gave Megan, and Jennifer would have left.

Of course, Simon is richer than God, so he can say he would have had the gift of prophecy and saved her, knowing that three years later she would hold the Oscar. He’s free to say that. It’s a free country.

But somebody point me out the one shock boot they really would have saved. They would NOT have saved Michael Johns because they already had the central duel going between the Davids.

Really, the only purpose of the save was to make a new, nastier moment in the show. And that worked like a fuckin charm.

As far as Simon’s “half the peoplee wwill love it and half the people will hate it” commentary to Adam, that is basically what he says everytime someone sings a headbanger anthem. That is because he knows that people are very “attached” to those songs and changing them up at all is risky.

So when you go head-bangin, you risk alienated those who just don’t like that kind of music and those who love that kind of music but are pissed you changed it or think that you aren’t a “REAL” rocker that came up from a garage band and ur just a poser.

I’m thinking the split thing may have run its course, but then, I’ve always assumed the contestant response was part of the script. If it’s not, and if they do it, I’m hoping for Adam to choose, and he just leads them all in a company bow. Hasn’t been done, isn’t so obviously “look how humble I am”, and can be done in a way that makes the show look like jerks for forcing it, without making him look like a jerk for pointing that out.

As far as bye, bye goes? (which just now makes me wish Megan had lasted long enough to sing “Bye, Bye Birdie”) Anyway. My preference would be to lose either Lil or Matt because I’ve not been entertained one second by either one, not even train wreck entertained. Since Dialidol is showing her strong, I’ll hope for Matt.

Or maybe, since they seem willing to make up new rules each week: a reverse save. Those two in the bottom, and the judges kick them both off and we have a “free” week next week of no one going home, with stern instructions to, for God’s sake, do something interesting next week.

Yeah, but Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m sure the producers make sure their favorites have all their songs cleared.

My point exactly. My favorites in the past have been David Cook; Jordin (though I liked Melinda); Bo; missed season 5, didn’t have a favorite season 3, and didn’t watch seasons 1-2. This year my favorite is Kris and my second fav is Anoop. While I’m not sure what the producers’ attitude is towards Kris, it’s painfully obvious what their attitude is towards Anoop. And it makes me mad.

Didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know Lil was into karate.

LOL. That was pretty freaking funny.

Obviously, you didn’t get the memo etta. All African-American women on AI are belters & divas, regardless of whether that is their actual style of singing or not. I’m pretty sure the the term “diva” as it referred to singers used to have an actual meaning. Now apparently, it’s just a term that’s shorthand for “black chick on Idol”.

It kind of goes hand in hand with the way Anoop always gets requests to sing something from Slumdog Millionaire, or do the dance from that movie, when he’s ya’ know a natural born AMERICAN.

Bringing this over from Alan Sepinwallà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s blog:

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I hate to be the anonymous poster with the attenuated relationship with a contestant and supposed inside information so you donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t have to believe me. But speaking about song choices, it isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t quite simple. The list is often small and the producers sometimes intervene when certain contestants pick a unique song (unique in the sense it hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been used before).

The contestant I know has been screwed over in song choices twice this season – both times told on Saturday or Sunday by producers to switch songs. The first time he was forced to switch songs, he ended up being panned very badly by Simon. This week, he chose End of the Road by Boyz II Men and was again told last minute it didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t clear. From what I understand, this is quite common practice.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

Well, we all know the contestant being referred to is Anoop. And even though thereà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s nothing to prove its veracity, I for one totally believe it. I think Anoopà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s producer-determined tenure on this show is drawing to an end – maybe not this week, but certainly soon.

The deck stacking is really getting on my nerves esp. hard this year, maybe because in the past my favorites have tended to be either TCOà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s or TCRUà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s and not as screwed over by this garbage.”

That is so UNFAIR!! I have to agree with you completely. Anoop is my fav this year and many a time I feel like he has been treated So unfairly.
I was reading an article on EW today and the writer was saying- it would have been soo much better if the producers had chosen to “pimp” Anoop over Danny because the audience would much rather have a Bryan McKnight or Babyface style singer over a not as talented as Taylor Hick’s- Danny Gokey. I have to agree. I think Anoop is as talented or better even than Danny- but hasn’t been treated as well. Just my opinion. And I am yet to met a Danny fan.

bambambam,

Are you unable to communicate without using profanity? I don’t mind the occasional swear wordd the the occasion calls for it, but your casual use is brutish.

I sincerely hope that they don’t do that lame “pick a group” thing tonight.

I hope that Kris’ fans kept him out of the bottom three. Regardless, I doubt that he will go home. Hope not.

I’m changing my mind. I think Lil is going. It’s her time to go, and I just think they want to get rid of their last mistake. Then try to build some momentum to the finals. If Lil stays I think the show stagnates another week with the Lil vs Simon drama and the tension of who goes next because the Diva must make top whatever because one always does.

Are you unable to communicate without using profanity? I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mind the occasional swear wordd the the occasion calls for it, but your casual use is brutish.

I’m not bambambam, but I just thought I’d throw in that if we’re taking a poll, I actually am unable to communicate without using profanity. The “F” word being my personal favorite.

Following our leader here, MJ, I am putting all my points on Matt. I do kind of think it will be Kris though due to dialidol and because splitting up the soul bros will cause any of their votes to possibly go to Gokey which would put him (maybe) way over Adam, and my thinking is that they want that to look like a close horse race. My fav to leave would be Lil, but I guess that isn’t going to happen yet, sigh. Deduction – Matt.

Spencer, exactly agree with your comments about requests for Anoop to sing something from Slumdog Millionaire. Would add the same things goes for requests that Adam sing something like Raining Men, etc. The stereotyping actually bugs me much. Thanks for pointing out that Anoop is from North Carolina and not Delhi.

Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not bambambam, but I just thought Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d throw in that if weà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢re taking a poll, I actually am unable to communicate without using profanity.

Spense, thanks for the laughs. Glad I provided you with one as well. BTW, I got the memo but it drives me freaking insane.

And I am yet to met a Danny fan.

That is because they all work with me.

The judges will use the save this week! Like someone said earlier it is really their last chance….since, if they use it next week they fuck up the 2 song sing on final 5 night. I think it would be a lot more fun to watch two go home next week…and it would get the viewership up because people want to think they are in control

No fucking way would they have used the save on Jennifer Hudson. There was already a rap on her that she was too arrogant about her voice and alienating to viewers. Simon would have given her the same sniffy we donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care shit he gave Megan, and Jennifer would have left.

I agree. There is no way they would have saved Jennifer back in Season 3. Simon savaged her. But, Idol is all about revisionist history (when it’s not about being unfair or a singing/not-a-singing competition). She’s a success, so now the judges claim they always loved her.

I think they will use the save though. It becomes pointless if you don’t use it and there will be little drama next year. Did they use it in France where it originated?

Spencer, exactly agree with your comments about requests for Anoop to sing something from Slumdog Millionaire. Would add the same things goes for requests that Adam sing something like Raining Men, etc.

I agree.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny how different impressions are, bc I remember thinking it was kind of p*&ckish of Taylor to shake his hand and then à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“turn away.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  YMMV.

I completely agree with you there. I took that as being more of a “Ha. You might think you’re all that, but I don’t.” It was part of the reason I HATED Taylor that season.

Anyway, about tonight…I’m just hoping that both of my favorites are safe: Kris and Allison. I’m terrified that I’m going to lose one of them. But hopefully, if one of them are up for the big E, the judges will save them.

I hope Lil leaves. She’s really NOT good. But unfortunately, I doubt she’ll be going anywhere. I’m still hoping, though. lol

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s funny how different impressions are, bc I remember thinking it was kind of p*&ckish of Taylor to shake his hand and then à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“turn away.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  YMMV.

I know I thought he was a jerk that night.

I want either Lil or Kris to go but they’d probably save them anyway. I’d rather it be Matt than Anoop but I like them both. I just know I’m not going to be happy when it’s over.

“Didnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t know Lil was into karate.”

ETTA – that was so funny

Although TCO means The Chosen One, usually there seems to be more than one TCO and TCOs can change during the competition à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’  hence, TCO Lilà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s downward spiral.

LOL- Lil was never TCO, not even remotely.

She filled an assigned role- the “black belter” useful to help thin the herd.
The most they ever wanted from her was to be good enough to last longer than all but one of the R&B boys club and be the last girl standing. Sadly, she can’t do even that.

Why do they always screw with Anoop? I was hoping he wouldn’t be in the bottom 3 but still why did they have to send him over first to sit over there alone? Poor guy. :annoyed_tb:

Sorry, but American Idol is popular because of the near-bullying of contestants. They use much more brutish hate language on the show in my opinion each and every week. It would be much funnier if they used shit and fuck and goddam.

At least he was safe. I don’t think they’d have used the save on him.

wrong thread. tired.