American Idol Panel – FOX Day at TCA Tour

Nine American Idol producers and stars face the critics at today’s FOX session with the Television Critics Association tour: Steven Tyler, Jennifer Lopez, Jimmy Iovine, Randy Jackson, Ryan Seacrest, producers Nigel Lythgoe, Ken Warwick, Ceclile Frot-Coutaz and FOX reality exec Mike Darnell.

TCA Recaps:

  • The Wrap – Nigel confirms contestants will sing original songs.  Nigel says that The major overhaul of “American Idol” isn’t an acknowledgment that something went wrong last season, but is rather part of the natural evolution of a 10-year-old show. The panel also confirmed that contestants will be able to sing original songs (but it will be limited)
  • LA Times: NO Online voting this year, “”We’ve looked at it, and maybe we’ll do it next year…there are security issues with online voting. And because of the volume of voting we have on ‘Idol,’ before we go down that road, we have to make sure it’s completely secure and we have to be able to road-test it, and we just haven’t had the time. It’s not that we don’t want to do it. It’s just that’s there a whole bunch of considerations and it has to be really solid, and we’re not there yet.” – Cecil Frot-Coutaz.
  • TVGuide: “Following the back-to-back victories of singer-songwriters Kris Allen and Lee Dewyze, Lythgoe said there would be limitations on how often Idol hopefuls will be able to play their own instruments. “[Producers] felt as though they had a bunch of strummers rather than guitarists or musicians,” Lythgoe said. “[Contestants] hid behind their guitars and certainly we want to avoid that.”
  • Broadcast&Cable – Randy says, “Who will be the mean one? You will hear from all of us. If it’s terrible, it’s terrible and we’re going to say it.”
  • Zap2it: It’s about records,” Jackson explains. “The record has to be great. The mistake that people make is that they look at the show and think, ‘If I win, I’m guaranteed to be a success.’” Seacrest adds, “It shows you how hard it is to have a great record,” even with a springboard like the show.
  • Hit Fix (thorough live blog of the session) – “It’s a fact that very often, America gets it wrong,” Ken Warwick says.
  • Entertainment Weekly:  Steven Tyler: “Everyone’s got their opinion. I want to test my limitations. I’ve been judged all my life for what I do. Many have things to say about it, but it’s not going to fly. I am who I am.””
  • TVLine:  “We’ve got the rock legend, we’ve got the triple threat…. We’re gonna be good,” last judge standing Randy Jackson said with a nod to newcomers Steven Tyler and Jennifer Lopez. Speaking of “Jenny from the Block,” Randy says she’s at her judging best when her urban roots come bursting forth: “I like that boogey-down Bronx girl!”
  • Access Hollywood: ” “We didn’t say this yet, but they are some of the most extremely competitive individuals I’ve ever seen on the show…They wanna win. They wanna win. They know it’s an individual competition,” he replied. “I don’t know if it’s sabotage yet — that’s an extreme — but they definitely… they know what the show is about and they know that there’s one winner. “
  • The Hollywood Reporter

ETA: Nothing earth shattering came out of today’s panel–just the usual spin:  The judges lurve each other, kinder, gentler Idol, we’re looking for a great artist. Blah. Blah. Blah.  You will find actual details about Season 10 changes in today’s press release from FOX.

Steven Tyler had a couple of good soundbites, including answering “Fuck no” when asked if he’ll be on a 5 second delay.  Also, Ryan Seacrest attributes his youthful look to “placenta.” Ew.

Read the twitter recap below:

@RealityBlurred: “American Idol will cut from 40 to 20 semi-finalists today and tomorrow…”

  • @RealityBlurred: “Will Steven Tyler be on a five-second delay? “Fuck no,” he says.”
  • @RealityBlurred: “Idol hair update: Steven Tyler, J Lo’s hair considerably different today, making it easier to tell them apart.”
  • @TVGuide: “J.Lo: “You’re going to have to watch. We’re very honest and in the moment with everything we do.” RE: Her judging.”
  • @RealityBlurred: “Jennifer Lopez: “We’re artists,” explaining how the American Idol judge panel is different without Simon Cowell”
  • @RealityBlurred: “Randy Jackson blames contestants for sucking: “mistake people make” to think “I’m guaranteed to be a success””
  • @SurfReportDi: “Ryan Seacrest says #Idol shows how hard it is to have a hit record.”
  • @IdolWorship: “Steven Tyler on first meeting Mike Darnell: “I thought he jumped right out of the Simpsons.”
  • @Sepinwall: “Lythgoe on diff btw Simon & JLo/Tyler: “I think they bring more of a critique rather than just ‘Pack your suitcase, you’re going home.’”
  • @RealityBlurred: “Jennifer Lopez: “At first I wasn’t sure about it” but “I love this show” & “helping other artists … We’re not here to break people down.”
  • @TVGuide: “Steven Tyler on how he would have done on @IdolonFOX: “Lord knows.”
  • @LacyVRose: “”It’s a lot more about searching for that eventual winner, rather than stopping them from getting there.” -Nigel Lythgoe on the *new* Idol”
  • @Idol_Worship: “Nigel: “America always comes out with the right winner.”
  • @TheFutonCritic: “FOX at #TCA: Nigel Lythgoe indicates this year’s “Idol” will be more about helping the contestants than knocking them down.”
  • @RealityBlurred: “Mentor Jimmy Iovine: “My role is to help make sure we find an original voice” instead of “singing like somebody else.””
  • @writerchica: “U’ll see a bit more of an assertive dawg….a little bit more hair on the dog. Fewer yo’s, maybe more no’s, less dawgs.””
  • @surfreport: “[Nigel Lythgoe} talking about tech advances such as texting that have made a huge difference for #IDOL in the last 10 years.
  • @RealityBlurred: “Ryan Seacrest finally talks, says the secret to his face is “placenta,” which he then repeated.”
  • @thesurfrereport: “Seacrest thinks the show will be really funny this cycle too. Can’t wait to do a live show with them.”
  • @RealityBlurred: “Seacrest previews his banter this year: salivating over J Lo (“Jennifer is a different type of star”)”
  • @LaceyVRose: “”Simon + I had our banter, + we were known for that. This is a whole diff dynamic. There’s genuine camaraderie w/ this group.”
  • @Sepinwall: “Steven Tyler explaining he wanted to work w/JLo b/c of how great she was in “The Back-Up Plan.” Seriously. This was said.”
  • @TVGuide: “”I don’t know how it would feel to be anything else,” says Jennifer Lopez when asked about being a Latina”
  • @writerchica: “Tyler about J-Lo: “I want to sit next to that.””
  • @tvoti: “”I feel so emotionally attached to all of (the contestants) already. I hate seeing any of them go.” Jennifer Lopez.”
  • @thesurfreport: “#Idol went to Vegas because Beatles show LOVE was there – contestants had to learn a Beatles song overnight.”
  • @LaceyVRose: “”Trust me, we’ve got some heat this season + better talent than we’ve had in other seasons.” -Randy Jackson”
  • @Idol_Worship: “Steven Tyler: “What Idol’s all about is taking it up a notch — no more, no less.””
  • @RealityBlurred: “”We’re not allowed to fraternize,” Steven Tyler says, thinking we thought judges were going to help the contestants grow in *other* ways”
  • @RealityBlurred: “Jennifer Lopez: “We’re supposed to keep a certain distance.” BREAKING: NEW IDOL JUDGES WILL NOT CANOODLE WITH TALENT”
  • @thesurfreport: “”I’m from the Bronx. But I got my pet raccoon from Yonkers. – Steven Tyler””
  • @thesurfreport: “Steven Tyler says Aerosmith is much bigger than he is. Tour planned for Nov/Dec outside the U.S. Band is just on a break.”
  • @RealityBlurred: “Idol producers insist “the audience votes,” but they forget to say “and we try to impact that vote by pimping certain contestants””
  • Nina1

    Steven Tyler is a hoot and a half….I think I am gonna enjoy him.

  • Mark

    @surfreport: “[Nigel Lythgoe} talking about tech advances such as texting that have made a huge difference for #IDOL in the last 10 years.

    … excuse me? How long exactly does he think he’s been doing this?

  • koshka

    @TVGuide: “”I don’t know how it would feel to be anything else,” says Jennifer Lopez when asked about being a Latina”

    What a dumb ass question. I wonder if they ever asked Simon how it felt to be white?

    Favorite quote: @RealityBlurred: “Will Steven Tyler be on a five-second delay? “Fuck no,” he says.”

  • Joyed

    Thanks for putting these in one place, MJ! I’ve been reading the TV blogger tweets the past couple days and it is hilarious to see them turn their sarcasm to idol, lol.

  • jumpstart

    “”Trust me, we’ve got some heat this season + better talent than we’ve had in other seasons.” -Randy Jackson”

    blah blah blah

  • Valentin432

    Meanwhile, Steven Tyler says that he realized he wanted to work with J-Lo after watching “The Back-Up Plan” on an airplane. Yes. He really said that. Apparently he saw her vulnerable side

    Lol

  • bmms

    “Nigel: “America always comes out with the right winner.”

    Ah, NOT!

  • bmms

    “”I feel so emotionally attached to all of (the contestants) already. I hate seeing any of them go.” Jennifer Lopez.”

    Sweet. :-)

  • bmms

    Steven Tyler is a hoot and a half….I think I am gonna enjoy him.

    Me too!

  • bmms

    “”I don’t know how it would feel to be anything else,” says Jennifer Lopez when asked about being a Latina”

    Dumb, dumb, dumb question!

  • bridgette12

    Nigel: “America always comes out with the right winner.”

    Nigel, dear sweet, adorable, I can change the truth when it’s necessary Nigel. I think Idol fans know what happens to winners that the show don’t like, they are ignored and never mentioned. When he wasn’t part of the show, he was bashing it and some of it’s winners and know that he’s returned it’s all lollipops and rainbows.

  • girlygirl

    what do they mean by original songs…songs written by cotestants themselves?

  • Miss Chaos

    Um Randy, we have seen a lot of country singers so far, and I like country, but bringing the (heat) for whatever that means, I dont see it. I just dont know what he means by bringing the heat. I guess we will see in a couple of weeks, I better be ready to fan myself/lol

  • Studio57

    I love steven tyler. That is all.

  • sma11ie

    @RealityBlurred: “Randy Jackson blames contestants for sucking: “mistake people make” to think “I’m guaranteed to be a success””

    The mistake that people make is that they look at the show and think, ‘If I win, I’m guaranteed to be a success.’” Seacrest adds, “It shows you how hard it is to have a great record,” even with a springboard like the show.

    Thanks Seacrest. Randy, shut up. So much for windmills giving him the benefit of the doubt in the headlines thread… Yeah, Randy, the reason there haven’t been huge records from Idol in recent years is because the Idols are entitled little brats who just sit back and expect superstardom post-show. Yup, that’s TOTALLY it. Idiot.

  • windmills

    I guess Randy DOES think Idol contestants have an entitlement complex. So much for me trying to defend him on that one :(

    LOL @ this:

    Nigel: “America always comes out with the right winner.”

    “It’s a fact that very often, America gets it wrong,” Ken Warwick says.

  • sma11ie

    LOL at Nigel and Warwick’s opposing spin. If I had to choose, TOTALLY team Nigel ALL THE WAY. The past several years of hearing about/from Warwick has confirmed to me that he is an even bigger idiot than Randy– in fact, I’d venture to say, out of all the idiots ever involved in Idol, he MUST be the biggest.

    Tyler is awesome. LOL 4ever at Back Up Plan. That was playing on a flight of mine and I fell asleep.

  • Milly21

    Why do i feel like absolutely nothing is going to change this season? its going to be 100% about Jennifer, Steven’s and Ryan’s gigantic egos mixed in with the absolute uselessness of Randy. I predict Steven is going to be a huge mess during the show. all i got from Leno last night is that Jennifer and Steven are taking this as just an easy day job and theyre way more focused on their personal careers and what this could do for them and their new record or tour.

    from the contestants ive seen being posted on here no one is gonna really bring the wow factor. i was reading in an article yesterday how Ryan said that the contestants are more nervous than ever before. Well you know last year the nerves were through the roof. if these guys this season dont get it together i feel like the end of the show is near. Also the fact that Ryan said that a lot of the contestants have never even heard a Beatles song, that troubles me completely.

    im just overall annoyed by what ive been seeing. i honestly dont know if im going to watch the show past the first couple of episodes and ive been watching the show since day 1.

  • emmuzka

    #Idol went to Vegas because Beatles show LOVE was there – contestants had to learn a Beatles song overnight.”

    Oh crap. I can bet 100 bucks that someone will perform I Want to Hold Your Hand as a ballad, ala Glee.

  • tinawina

    Tyler is awesome. LOL 4ever at Back Up Plan. That was playing on a flight of mine and I fell asleep.

    Steven Tyler is such a trip. LMAO! He’s already entertaining. :D

    LOL at Nigel and Warwick’s opposing spin. If I had to choose, TOTALLY team Nigel ALL THE WAY. The past several years of hearing about/from Warwick has confirmed to me that he is an even bigger idiot than Randy– in fact, I’d venture to say, out of all the idiots ever involved in Idol, he MUST be the biggest.

    What? Insulting the audience is a sure way to lure them back. Don’t you know that?

    Oh, Ken. It must suck to be the guy ultimately responsible for a widely panned season. And Kara Dioguardi. Heh.

    Also the fact that Ryan said that a lot of the contestants have never even heard a Beatles song, that troubles me completely.

    Oh man. I could take one or two like that, but I hope its not most. Have the musically ignorant ever made good contestants? I think not.

  • Mark
    Also the fact that Ryan said that a lot of the contestants have never even heard a Beatles song, that troubles me completely.

    Oh man. I could take one or two like that, but I hope its not most. Have the musically ignorant ever made good contestants? I think not.

    Oh, wow, that is troubling. If this is seriously going back to the days of S2 inanity, they’re going to lose a lot of audience. Believe me, the S9 “they’re hiding behind guitars” backlash will not be equal to the “this is the most obnoxious county fair I’ve ever laid my eyes on” backlash.

    Thanks Seacrest. Randy, shut up. So much for windmills giving him the benefit of the doubt in the headlines thread… Yeah, Randy, the reason there haven’t been huge records from Idol in recent years is because the Idols are entitled little brats who just sit back and expect superstardom post-show. Yup, that’s TOTALLY it. Idiot.

    Seriously. Maybe he knows something we don’t, but given other things he’s said, I pretty much doubt it. He’s just making excuses for things that probably have more to do with the show’s arc and less about the contestants at all.

  • progression

    Nigel: “America always comes out with the right winner.”

    “It’s a fact that very often, America gets it wrong,” Ken Warwick says.

    LOLOL! I guess Nigel feels he had more success at “helping” America get it “right” in S1-7 than Ken did in S8-9 huh? So glad to have Nigel back to kick around. Never change Nigel!

    Interesting we didn’t hear much from Iovine. I’m betting he’ll be the puppetmaster now that Simon is gone. The new judges will just be entertaining, in a “the gang who couldn’t shoot straight” sort of way.

  • windmills

    On a shallow note, is it just me or have like a lot of the AI related pictures we’ve seen of JLo involved her wearing these beige-pinky sleeveless dresses? Definitely today and last night’s Leno show and I think the EW cover too.

  • car

    It will be interesting to see if Universal does anything to ensure that the winner is a bigger deal than any of the runner-ups. Will they delay signing others until the winner is established? Or will they stagger the release dates a bit more. Or will they stop signing so many from one season.

  • Studio57

    “he looks like he jumped right out of the Simpsons” Tyler on Mike Darnell.

    I think someone better start recording Tylerisms, because there is gonna be alot of them. That dude really does look like a character from The Simpsons

  • http://mjsbigblog.com/luvadamlamberts-american-idol-tour-2009-washington-dc-re-cap.htm luvadamlambert

    lol wow i already love steven

  • fuzzywuzzy

    ”Trust me, we’ve got some heat this season + better talent than we’ve had in other seasons.” -Randy Jackson”

    *rolls eyes* Does Randy feel obligated to say this every year?

    Interesting we didn’t hear much from Iovine. I’m betting he’ll be the puppetmaster now that Simon is gone.

    I feel the same way. Iovine won’t be quoted in the press, but he will be the person who really decides who to mold/pimp.

    I wonder if Ken Warwick feels at all embarassed that pretty much everything he said publicly about this upcoming season was wrong?

    I’m already a fan of Steven Tyler’s as an AI judge. What a character! LOL!

    ”Simon + I had our banter, + we were known for that. This is a whole diff dynamic. There’s genuine camaraderie w/ this group.”

    As opposed to the “fake camaraderie” that he had with Simon? Is Ryan saying that he and Simon really didn’t get along? This is another comment that makes me believe that Ryan and Simon weren’t the best pals that we were led to believe.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    Also the fact that Ryan said that a lot of the contestants have never even heard a Beatles song, that troubles me completely.

    Where do these contestants come from that they haven’t ever heard a Beatle’s song? Have they lived in a cave all of their lives before AI?

  • gangreen29

    Also the fact that Ryan said that a lot of the contestants have never even heard a Beatles song, that troubles me completely.

    Ryan didn’t say a lot, he said a handful of contestants. This is his quote “They went to perform Beatles songs, about 60-something [of them]. A handful of them, I asked, ‘What do you think about the songs?’ and they said, ‘I’ve never heard a Beatles song before in my life!’”.

  • Buffynut

    The quote from Nigel, at Hit Fix, is that “America normally gets it right.” I wonder which way he said it? To me, normally=usually, as opposed to “always.”

  • Keel

    Where do these contestants come from that they haven’t ever heard a Beatle’s song? Have they lived in a cave all of their lives before AI?

    In their defense, the Beatles are a pretty dang old act. Why would you expect people from different walks of life than you to know music from a few generations ago? I understand they are influential, but not EVERYONE’s parents were into the Beatles. Mine certainly weren’t (from a different country, older, etc.) and I didn’t hear Beatles music myself until I was in high school (and only because some kids in school were singing some old songs for a school play). And I was born 20+ years after many of these contestants, so think what their points of reference for “old music” is now. Probably ’80s music and grunge.

    Anyway, that is not to say that people who actually want to break into the music industry should know a lot more about their music history than your average bear.

  • Chicagolaw

    LOL, “normally” doesn’t mean “always.” Way to weasel out of that one, Nigel.

    This season is going to be interesting to watch. It sure seems like they are setting up a scenario to “manufacture” a popstar. But, will the audience and the music industry play along?

  • Buffynut

    Anyway, that is not to say that people who actually want to break into the music industry should know a lot more about their music history than your average bear.

    ^^^ This! People wanting to become recording stars should know the major historical influences in music. The Beatles, without a doubt, would be one of those. Whether you love them or are indifferent or hate them, they influenced the music scene then and for years.

  • Mark

    “We didn’t say this yet, but they are some of the most extremely competitive individuals I’ve ever seen on the show…They wanna win. They wanna win. They know it’s an individual competition,” he replied. “I don’t know if it’s sabotage yet — that’s an extreme — but they definitely… they know what the show is about and they know that there’s one winner. “

    LOL. Producers need to warm up to the fact that Idol will never reach its full potential unless they introduce combat with weapons.

  • ross

    People wanting to become recording stars should know the major historical influences in music. The Beatles, without a doubt, would be one of those. Whether you love them or are indifferent or hate them, they influenced the music scene then and for years.

    Well, the way I look at it is that if they cared about music they would naturally know this stuff – they would be curious and hungry and excited about music so they would know it. If they’re would-be robotic pop star clones who are all about getting famous in a hurry, they really don’t care about music, they care about fame and stardom.

    People who don’t like the recent winners can put them down but they seem to know music. When people who are only in their early 20′s know all kinds of music history and can perform songs from various eras with ease – or when they have favorite musicians who didn’t all chart just last year – there’s a reason for that. They’re music lovers, they live for music. This is a certain type of person. If Idol is looking for a pop-sensation-of-the-moment type, that person may not know or care about some of these things. They may be thinking more about fame and money, and not music. The show may be thinking more about that, too.

  • progression

    Idol will never reach its full potential unless they introduce combat with weapons.

    Bwah!

  • girlygirl

    That’s sad if these contestants have never heard a Beatles’ song before. But why did they have to go to Vegas — they couldn’t have stayed in L.A. and learned a Beatles song overnight? I’m pretty sure I could learn a song overnight if I absolutely had to (I would sing it badly because I can’t really sing — but I could learn it)

    As for the rest, same old same old with the spin…best contestants ever, blahblahblah

    (PS – rumors are that people at UMG are VERY nervous about possible layoffs with the new execs coming in. if they have a label shakeup, how will that impact whoever they sign off this show?)

  • gangreen29

    That’s sad if these contestants have never heard a Beatles’ song before.

    Ryan said a handful of contestants. Lets stop this “None of the contestants know who the beatles are” meme that seems to be gaining speed.

  • platoken

    from the contestants ive seen being posted on here no one is gonna really bring the wow factor. i was reading in an article yesterday how Ryan said that the contestants are more nervous than ever before. Well you know last year the nerves were through the roof. if these guys this season dont get it together i feel like the end of the show is near. Also the fact that Ryan said that a lot of the contestants have never even heard a Beatles song, that troubles me completely.

    Of course they are nervous this weekend, they are picking who gets to go into the top 20. And define “Wow factor.” Just because someone isn’t Adam Lambert doesn’t automatically mean they aren’t good. And there have been a lot of good people from what I have seen on videos-and videos do NOT do a lot of people justice.

    im just overall annoyed by what ive been seeing. i honestly dont know if im going to watch the show past the first couple of episodes and ive been watching the show since day 1.

    Boo hoo.

  • AllenTX

    People who don’t like the recent winners can put them down but they seem to know music. When people who are only in their early 20’s know all kinds of music history and can perform songs from various eras with ease – or when they have favorite musicians who didn’t all chart just last year – there’s a reason for that. They’re music lovers, they live for music. This is a certain type of person. If Idol is looking for a pop-sensation-of-the-moment type, that person may not know or care about some of these things. They may be thinking more about fame and money, and not music. The show may be thinking more about that, too.

    LOL Good God!!!!

  • Jewlmc

    As opposed to the “fake camaraderie” that he had with Simon? Is Ryan saying that he and Simon really didn’t get along? This is another comment that makes me believe that Ryan and Simon weren’t the best pals that we were led to believe.

    Oh, goodness. All Ryan is saying is that he and Simon were known for fighting and NOT getting along, but with the current cast everyone gets along. It has nothing to do with their real realtionship I’m sure. Not very many people know Simon and Ryan to be friends, most people think they hate each other. And I think he’s saying that he’s not pretending to fight with JLO and Steven. It’s going to be an “everyone gets along” show. Not a “Watch to see Simon and Ryan snipe at each other” show.

  • Jewlmc

    Also, when talking about “genuine” and “not genuine” I’m sure that the Ryan hates Simon was the “not genuine” part.

  • Valentin432

    IA that it’s a little concerning if people who pretend to go into the music industry and don’t know the Beatles.
    If they are the fifteen year olds, I could cut them some slack tough. When I was fifteen the last thing I wanted to hear was what my mother (or in case of some here, what their grandmother) was listening to.

  • progression

    They may be thinking more about fame and money, and not music. The show may be thinking more about that, too.

    The show MAY be thinking more about money than music?

  • Milly21

    platoken, i never once mentioned Adam. Wow factor means charisma, someone you cant take your eyes off of that blows you away with their voice and stage presence or musical ability. a ton of contestants over the years have had that wow factor.

    this music industry today is just getting stranger and stranger. the biggest nutjobs are the ones who are getting the most publicity or selling the most albums or singles. UMG is home to Lady Gaga. I doubt they want someone without some sort of wow factor anyway

    and all im saying is that if someone who’s been a religious watcher since the beginning is probably going to tune out this season, that’s a problem. i know im probably not the only one who feels this way.

    and yeah a “handful” or “a lot” i’d think that someone with any interest in music at all would know a song or two from legends, whether you hate them or not. i dont know if i want a 15 year old singer with not much musical knowledge :\ that point that Ryan made just struck me and surprised me, and by the sound of the audience it shocked them too lol im sure even justin bieber or some of the younger singers out there today know music by the beatles, or elvis, or MJ or whatever other legend there is.

  • http://myspace.com/girlgeek mj

    Reminder:

    This thread is about SEASON 10. Stay on topic, please.

  • karenc

    Interesting that now they are saying in the Wrap article that the contestants can use original songs written by the contestants. And that producers have heard and been impressed by some of the original songs. So this must mean that they can use origianal songs during the audition process.

    This could be interesting if this is true. From previous articles they said the orignal songs would be written by record label songwriters.

    Unless this article is wrong.

    ETA: Or I’m reading it wrong. This article could be read more than one way, because it might just mean the songs written by songwriters

  • platoken

    and all im saying is that if someone who’s been a religious watcher since the beginning is probably going to tune out this season, that’s a problem. i know im probably not the only one who feels this way.

    That’s kind of dumb though when you don’t even know what its going to be like. Just watch, then make your judgements.

  • Grammie Kari

    “It’s a fact that very often, America gets it wrong,” Ken Warwick says.

    “America” was involved and our votes counted in Seasons 1-4. The fact is that often the text voters might get it wrong. I no longer feel a part of the process as my 400 votes can’t compete with someone texting 10,000 votes for their favorite.

    They’re music lovers, they live for music. This is a certain type of person. If Idol is looking for a pop-sensation-of-the-moment type, that person may not know or care about some of these things.

    Great post, Ross! You said it so right. My 4 year-old Grandson knows some of the Beatles songs.

  • ross

    Great post, Ross! You said it so right. My 4 year-old Grandson knows some of the Beatles songs.

    Thanks, glad you liked it.

  • erl

    I think Ken Warwick might want to reconsider biting the hand that feeds. How does America get it wrong, by punching in the wrong numbers when dialing or texting and voting for a contestant they didn’t intend to vote for? If America gets it wrong, then take America out of the show.

  • http://MJO judes

    They’re music lovers, they live for music. This is a certain type of person. If Idol is looking for a pop-sensation-of-the-moment type, that person may not know or care about some of these things.

    Great post, Ross! You said it so right. My 4 year-old Grandson knows some of the Beatles songs.

    Ditto Ross! All my kids have been involved in music & The Beatles have influenced them greatly. Many idols over the years – some I’ve liked ,some not so much , have named The Beatles as a musical influence.
    I’ll definitely give this season a go – but if there is less real music & a majority of poppy background “music” , I may have to tune out . My hope is still that there are a variety of performers which I hope continue onto the Top 10.

  • tinawina

    Ryan didn’t say a lot, he said a handful of contestants.

    Oh thank God. My money is on the young ones LOL.

  • CindyM

    Well, I plan to tune in and give the show and the contestants a chance. I think it’s funny to judge someone as not being “about the music” because they sing pop or are into current music rather than the past. Ryan said a “handful” of the contestants didn’t know a Beatles song. The 15-yr olds were born in 1995. I know when I was 15 years old, I loved listening to and playing music, but I certainly wasn’t looking to music made 25 years or more before I was born. For some of these kids, their musical influences were a lot more current or culturally the Beatles were less important to them than other artists.

    All I know is that I’m hoping for some variety to this season and I’m hoping for some excitement. I’d love to see a pop/r&b singer win the whole thing, male or female, but I doubt it will happen. Here’s hoping!!

  • Eileen99

    Oh lord, Ken Warwick. Every quote I’ve ever read of his is nothing but whining and butthurt. So tiring.

    The new judges panel, on the other hand, I’m really looking forward to. Steven Tyler is going to be hilarious & Jennifer Lopez isn’t going to mince words, I don’t think. So glad they’re back to three judges, I just hope the new in-house mentors don’t suck the creativity out of the contestants.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “Mentor Jimmy Iovine: “My role is to help make sure we find an original voice” instead of “singing like somebody else.””

    OK. Thing is, none of the contestants that I’ve seen so far fit this description. What if no one fits that description? How will Jimmy “make sure” that they “find an original voice”? It’s pretty vague. Probably intentionally.

  • fuzzywuzzy

    I don’t expect current young aspiring singers to “study” past musical influences and history, but I was just shocked that a few of them had never heard a Beatles song.

  • karenc

    Most people that I know who are musicians do tend to know more about music from the past more so than others. Even so, I think within the context of AI, the contestants that have had a wide musical knowledge have been among the most successful, especially the past few years. They know better which songs to pick for themselves.

  • Summer

    girlygirl:
    01/11/2011 at 6:39 pm
    But why did they have to go to Vegas — they couldn’t have stayed in L.A. and learned a Beatles song overnight?

    They went to Las Vegas to see the Beatles Cirque de Soleil show, “LOVE”.