American Idol Spring Break Tour, and Guess Who Isn’t a Fan of the Judges Save?

honestly, these four have done nothing. I don’t care if they don’t like the change.

melinda needs to grow a neck anyway.

Phil Stacey says, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Basically what they are saying is donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t vote Adam Lambert or Danny Gokey out cause if you do they will get saved. Paula wants to see them in the finale. So they will save them.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Ha ha. Gotta love Phil.

Haha. Go Phil. Way to say what most of us are all thinking.

I’ve always liked Phil. He was actually my fave in season 6. Just seemed like a really nice, down to earth guy. ITA agree about the chosen ones.

As someone that was the shock value

Shock? Speak for yourself, Michael. :rolleyes_tb:

melinda needs to grow a neck anyway.

:surprised_tb: Buuuuurn.

Using smileys is fuuun. I wonder why they aren’t used more often.

I agree with MJ, the judges save isn’t necessary. IMO it’s just a power trip.

philinda FTW. they were my top to during season 6 and i’m glad they remain close friends

oops. i did forget about Melinda, she does have a pretty good cd out!

LOL at Michael saying he was the shock boot and America gets it wrong sometimes. Michael believes his own press, apparently.

If I did a shot everytime Michael spoke of his shock!boot! I’d be severely intoxicated. Gosh he’s just so humble LOL

Hah! Right. What makes Michael think the judges would have used their veto vote for him? I certainly wasn’t shocked that he left when he did. Truthfully, I can’t even remember anything he sang.

Another post says AI has decided top 4 are to be Danny, Adam, Lil and Allison. Guess the save is their backup to make sure none of these get voted off early.

Manipulation seems to be overly obvious this season. Putting Anoop last when dialidol had him 5th, praising Adam for screeching, etc. Kinda aggravating.

The thing about the save that I worry about is that the audience is going to resent the judges using it and that resentment is going to filter over to the saved contestant.

I still don’t find MJ’s boot that shocking. I don’t think he would have lasted much longer anyway.

Not for one minute do I not believe that at the very least Simon knows the vote totals before they are announced. If they really wanted to save MJ last year all they had to do was pull the Idol Gives Back save like they did the year prior. I have tried to give Michael the benefit of the doubt, but I am done with him. Suck it up MJ it was your time to go and while you’re at it…STFU!!!!

Phil’s a hater. Probably still upset he was part of the duo elimination his year. And IMO, Adam deserves his praise.

I don’t think Michael’s departure was shocking. I was wondering what took so long. As he said himself, he peeked in Hollywood. The judges gave him undue praise for weeks, IMO. It appears that he believed the hype.

I agree with him and Phil about the save. Bad idea. Unnecessary.

Congrats to the tour mates. I hope that the tour will be successful for all of them. I’m happy that Chikezie will be recording a CD.

Don’t believe your own hype. It’s always a bad idea.

All the judges’ save does is bring the fix to the forefront. Nothing surprises me about this show.

If I did a shot everytime Michael spoke of his shock!boot! Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be severely intoxicated. Gosh heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just so humble LOL

What makes Michael think the judges would have used their veto vote for him? I certainly wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t shocked that he left when he did. Truthfully, I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t even remember anything he sang.

I speak for myself that though I wasn’t terribly shocked either– I was a little surprised MJ left that early– but mostly, my reaction was mild bemusement at his expression, followed by some sympathy when Ryan jerked him around. Haha. Anyway, that’s where I’m coming from, so hopefully I will come off somewhat objective when I say I’m surprised people have such strong reactions–of the “STFU” magnitude– just because MJ’s still calling his exit a shock boot.

Sure, it’s been a while, and part of my says, why are we still talking about it, but to be fair to Michael, he’s been given every reason to keep calling this a shock boot. AI has been calling it a shock boot for nearly a year now, and even flashed his mug and said his name on the show just last week when introducing the judges save. Most of his season 7 compatriots including DC have called MJ’s a shock boot, and point to his exit as not only surprising to them but a wake up call to everyone that anything could happen. MJ’s not the only one perpetuating this. It’s only natural that he has something to say now that the judges’ save is the hot AI topic, and I’m sure people will keep asking him about it. I certainly don’t expect him to say, no, it wasn’t really shocking in hindsight because I sucked– the dude is trying to have a career, and good for him for using the AI press to his advantage. And I find it refreshing that he doesn’t like the judges save. I happen to agree with him completely here:

à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I think thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the drama of Idol isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it? That sometimes America gets it right. Sometimes they get it wrong. You gotta vote for the people you love.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

I dunno, I’m not going to call MJ the humblest guy in the world, but I’m not ready to burn him at the stake for daring to use the worlds “shock boot” either. For better or worst, that’s really the only thing that makes him memorable to most, and in this tough industry, I really don’t fault him for doing what he can to keep himself in peoples’ conscious. YMMV.

The judges save is all about the drama of telling the just jilted contestants “No, you are not saved.” and very little about actually saving someone.

Here is why. The judges comments are instrumental in how the votes fall and if they bad mouth someone and then turn around and save them it is pretty clear that that person likely will not be getting one of the record deals at the end of the Idol rainbow.

I can’t wait until one of the bootees, say Scott McIntyre is asked if they thought the judges would use the “save” on him, and he replies “No. all of us knew that the save was reserved only for Adam and !!Gokey!! anyways…”

Trina
Mar 17th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
If I did a shot everytime Michael spoke of his shock!boot! Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be severely intoxicated. Gosh heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just so humble LOL

:lol_tb: :lol_tb:

Phil Stacey says, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“Basically what they are saying is donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t vote Adam Lambert or Danny Gokey”

Well without Adam it would be toooo boring and who would a lot of people have to make fun of if Danny went, it would spoil some people’s fun?

I was very shocked at Michaels departure, he was very entertaining and not too bad to look at – thank goodness it wasnt Jason though!

Well I doubt it is a coincidence this “brainstorm” sic – cough – came after last year, how many people are still scratching their heads wondering how Syesha or KLC made it farther.

I for one was shocked at that boot last year and so were millions of others so I don’t begrudge MJ for just being honest and if he were as unhumble as many seem to love to paint him, he would have been whining why didn’t they have the save last year.

This is just a cruel tactic to raise the hopes of the bottom dwellers for a second – I highly doubt the judges will use this save unless they need a ratings boost.

I think the “shock” part of MJ’s elimination was that he went before Kristy Lee Cook. That being said, he wasn’t going to stay around for very long anyway, not with the rest of the top 7 being much much better and interesting.

At this point I don’t think Michael can be blamed for still calling his elimination a “shock boot,” especially since the show just recently highlighted it as such, reminding millions of people. I mean he really doesn’t talk about it as much as people think he does. 95% of the time he has mentioned it in the past is because interviewers constantly asked him about it, or gushed about how they thought it was so shocking and he deserved to stick around. Like in that interview a few months ago when that guy was going over the top about how Michael should have won, and all Michael did was laugh and say “Sorry to let you down”(He’s already stated several times that he thinks David was the rightful winner). He has dealt with that a lot, and if it has gotten to his head a little bit, I can understand why.

I’m actually surprised when answering this question he didn’t reference the way Ryan got his hopes up by bringing up IGB the year before. I mean this “veto” thing would kind of have the same effect, making the contestants think they might be safe, only for Simon to say “Nope, sorry.” But then maybe Phil’s right, and most of the contestants expect it to be saved for Adam and Danny.

Michael was never going to win anyway. The title last season was reserved for David Archuleta from Day 1….then Cook made himself known. Michael was very good, but never did I get the impression he had it in the bag. The two Davids were deservedly miles ahead of him. It seems to me he needed that ‘shock elimantion’ to gain some perrspective, get his ego in check and actually mull over the fact that maybe…just maybe….he wasn’t as great as he thought he was. He’d be wise to take a lesson from David Archuleta on humility!

I’ve never quite gotten the shock thing anyway. Sure, some have worn out their welcome (Sanjaya and Kevin Covais to name a few), but by the Top 3, America has usually gotten it right. The fans of Daughtry had a legitimate gripe. I’m not so sure about Johns.

I was only shocked when Michael was voted off because there were two others that should have gone home before him. Michael was fun to watch, but he didn’t live up to the producers and the viewers expectations. He only rearranged one song , and the rest were sung karaoke style. He has a good voice, but he didn’t keep the audience enthralled like Cook did. So one of the two rockers had to go.

The only thing that annoyed me about MJ and his “shock boot” was the name-dropping that he did afterward. You know, all the famous people whom he frequently quoted as insisting that He Was Robbed : Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher, for instance, or (my personal favorite) Condoleeza Rice. That was all a little nauseating for me.

Having said that, he is human, and was caught up in the whole thing, and I’m sure he appreciated the attention. He just might have done well not to talk about it so much. At this point, though, it’s his AI legacy of sorts, so I’m used to it.

It is interesting to hear his opinion on the judges’ save, since he is one contestant whom it might have benefited, had it been around.

I canà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t wait until one of the bootees, say Scott McIntyre is asked if they thought the judges would use the à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“saveà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  on him, and he replies à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“No. all of us knew that the save was reserved only for Adam and !!Gokey!! anywaysà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ ¦Ãƒ ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

That would be so awesome. I would love love love to see that happen. I wonder what the producers would do if that happened on live tee vee?

It is interesting to hear his opinion on the judgesà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢ save, since he is one contestant whom it might have benefited, had it been around.

The thing is, didn’t Michael actually go first the week he was the lowest vote-getter? Because, in addition to singing yet another bland karaoke version of rock staple, the producers seemed to set him up perfectly for a “shock boot.” I also don’t think they would have saved him if they could have, and I still strongly doubt they’ll save anybody this season either. It’s more about the expectation that they could save somebody, that will keep people guessing for the next two months.

^ BootStar, I didn’t mean that I thought it would save him, only that it would have been possible to save him. I agree with you that the judges might not have done so.

Ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s more about the expectation that they could save somebody, that will keep people guessing for the next two months.

I also agree with this. It’s all about the intrigue.

He just might have done well not to talk about it so much. At this point, though, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s his AI legacy of sorts, so Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m used to it.

I think big Idol fans like ourselves get updated a lot and would feel like he’s talking about this too much, but for the average person, they’ll maybe see/read 1 of those interviews/quotes, and to them, it’s like he only mentioned it once– and mentioning it helps them recall who this guy was and why they might care. So while talking about it less may make him more likeable to AI superfans who read every crumb, it may actually cost him his opportunity to remind the general public of who he is. I think that’s the trade-off. I don’t mind that he talks about it– like you say, it’s his AI legacy, but he needs to come off likeable and gracious– he does himself no favors if he talks about it in a way that makes him seem bitter or entitled or a douchebag, haha.

I’m guessing Michael was asked about this because Idol showed his picture and named him as one of the reasons for the judges save being initiated. I don’t see the big deal. I have no problem with Michael responding as he did.

In all honesty I am done with this “shock boot” talk for him too, but since they asked I don’t see what’s wrong with his response. On to better things…his single will drop March 31

I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t mind that he talks about ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ like you say, ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s his AI legacy, but he needs to come off likeable and graciousà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬’ he does himself no favors if he talks about it in a way that makes him seem bitter or entitled or a douchebag, haha.

Yeah … as I said, the only part that bugged me was the namedropping. It was toolish. But admitting to being shocked, in and of itself, isn’t obnoxious. As you said, it’s all about how you do it.

eta: kbr, I also don’t see anything wrong with his response within this article. He was asked; he answered. No harm in that.

Philà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s a hater. Probably still upset he was part of the duo elimination his year. And IMO, Adam deserves his praise.

adamandeva— Wait, Phil’s a hater because he brings up the obvious fact that Adam is a judges’ favorite right now??

Isn’t there a possibility that his opinion of Adam has NOTHING to do with his own duo elimination??

Also, if you had read Phil’s blog over the past few weeks, you would see that he doesn’t hate Adam or Gokey. Just saying.

The naming dropping was a big issue mainly while he was doing press in Australia. They seemed to be absolutely obsessed with it. In one interview he finally laughed and said it was getting ridiculous. It was the same issue when he did press in the Phillippines. I’ve listened to all of his interviews and have never heard him name drop unless the interviewer makes a big deal about it. And then there was another time when some morning show in Australia asked him if anyone famous was at his birthday party. But overall, it hasn’t been an issue when he does press here in America. People don’t care and Michael doesn’t make a big deal about it either.

What a cool screen name – “BootStar”. That would be the name of that show someone mentioned days ago – all eliminated idols from all seasons competing..

Guess who isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t a fan? Michael Johns! He says, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I personally donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really dig it that much. As someone that was the shock value and it would have helped I donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t really think its necessary,à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬  Michael continues, à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“I think thatà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s the drama of Idol isnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t it? That sometimes America gets it right. Sometimes they get it wrong. You gotta vote for the people you love.à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ 

To be fair to Michael he doesn’t say that America got it wrong although would you really expect anyone in that situation to think they were sent home at the right time? Anyone in the top 12 should have the confidence that they could win. I agree with him that you have to vote for who you love and that’s why I’ll be voting for my little Anoop tonight. :smile1_tb:

Earth to Michael Johns….get over yourself. Your boot was not shocking. When you are sucky-mediocre for several weeks running, your chances of getting voted off are pretty good. Geeze.

I kind of wonder how this year’s contestants feel about the judge’s save. I think that there is probably only one person who will like it – the person that ends up being saved.

What a cool screen name – à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“BootStarà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . That would be the name of that show someone mentioned days ago – all eliminated idols from all seasons competing..

LOL, thesheriff. If only I were clever enough to have thought of that. It really only refers to my obsession with cowboy boots! :cheese1_ee:

But overall, it hasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t been an issue when he does press here in America. People donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t care and Michael doesnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t make a big deal about it either.

Well, I only watched his exit interviews on the morning talk show circuit here in the US. I didn’t watch or hear any of his Australian interviews. And he definitely brought it up more than once in the interviews I heard. I specifically remember the name dropping because it kind of made me cringe. I like Michael but it rubbed me the wrong way. It was the first week postboot, so he was just getting started with the interviews. Obviously he dropped the habit, but it did bug me at the time.

Anyway, I’m over it … lol … and I look forward to hearing more from Michael.

ETA: For the record, I had no idea that anyone else had even picked up on it. I thought it was my own little pet peeve.

ETAA: I’m sorry for even going on about this. I like Michael. I won’t say any more. Back to season 8!

Michael John’s elimination was shocking in that coming out of Hollywood week, he was one of TCOs. While he underperformed during the semifinals, the week before he had a spectacular night. It was also shocking in that KLC remained with far less success on the stage and far less talent. Evidently he isn’t the only one that thought it was shocking. Yes, he has a lofty sense of self, but it was also surprising giving his promise coming out of Hollywood week that he tanked so badly. I love how so many other people were quoted, but Michael gets all the ink. And we spell his name right, so I guess it’s all gravy to him.

I don’t like the judges save. I think it’s stupid, because what is just going to happen is that instead of being booted in week 6 you’ll be saved to be booted the next week. It’s not that the fix is apparent, it’s that is no save truly, and no fix. It’s just a gimmick to make people vote more to overturn the will of the judges. It’s not about preserving their chosen ones. It’s just a gimmick.

It was fun reading people’s reaction to this interview. I for one was really shocked that Michael was voted off because he was hyped so heavily by Simon in particular in interviews. He had never been in the bottom three at any point before the night he left. Syesha, Brooke, and Kristy Lee had all been in and out of the bottom three when Michael was eliminated. I think it was shocking. That having been said, I was a little tired of his kind of smart alecky attitude by the time he was voted off. During the tour I liked him singing bluesy things better than the big rock anthems. For me, I was shocked each week that Jason was still there. LOL Not that I didn’t like him. I just didn’t think he was all that talented. It was more the shocking “save”. I was also more shocked when Carly was voted off after one of her most animated performances. I was predicting a David, David, Carly top 3 with Brooke probably 4th. I could see Michael as making it to 5, Syesah to 6, Jason 7, and Kristy Lee to 8, Chikezie 9, and Ramielle 10. Actually I liked David Hernandez better than Ramielle. So for me the only place I got it right was 1 and 2. I didn’t even get 11 and 12 right. I would have voted Amanda off 12th and Ramielle 11th. Very early on the three Davids were my three favorites.

BootStar
Mar 17th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
What a cool screen name – à ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã…“BootStarà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬ . That would be the name of that show someone mentioned days ago – all eliminated idols from all seasons competing..

LOL, thesheriff. If only I were clever enough to have thought of that. It really only refers to my obsession with cowboy boots!

BootStar, do you know the song, Charlie Dunn? It’s the bestest cowboy boot song evah!

ETA: It’s by Jerry Jeff Walker, here…I *hearthands* this song!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUKF4ocxIQ4

Jerry Jeff’s version is now tragically MIA from youtube.

It is what it is.. Like it or not. AMERICAN IDOL is the one
who showed Michael Johns face when they announced the
new rule. The judges saved happened because of Michael Johns.

If they really wanted to save MJ last year all they had to do was pull the Idol Gives Back save like they did the year prior.

Yeah this is true.

LOL, Michael Johns is such an annoying douche.

“If I did a shot everytime Michael spoke of his shock!boot! Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢d be severely intoxicated. Gosh heà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s just so humble LOL”

^^Id have Scirrosis of the liver by this time……..or dead. He is so low key isnt he….

Well I was shocked about MJ getting the boot. Maybe he wasn’t as good as he should’ve been on the show but it can’t be helped that the hype was magnified by how everyone that stayed longer than he did progressively sucked (KLC, Brooke, Castro). I was also shocked that Carly and Syesha outlasted him because like KLC, they’ve been in the bottom several times. I think a lot of the press, like it or not, shared this view. So it can’t be helped that he addresses the shock boot til now, especially when he had his face flash onscreen just recently, and he was likely pointedly asked about how the save would’ve made an impact on his case, clearly suggesting that he is a shock boot, in the interview. (Just as he’s given those talking points in his previous post-AI media appearances, including the celebrities that became fans of his that interviewers also love bringing up.) Oh well but here we go again, I guess.

Funny but I think it’s actually the recurring online debate among a handful of AI’s hardcore followers on Michael’s attitude merits more STFU–so for your own sake Michael, just say you sucked, the others were better, and nobody liked you! :lol_wp: Anyway, still like him, still love his voice.

I love how so many other people were quoted, but Michael gets all the ink.And we spell his name right, so I guess ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s all gravy to him.

So it seems. I wouldn’t waste any ink on the AI contestants I don’t like. But that’s just me LOL.

LOL, Michael Johns is such an annoying douche.

That is an amazingly accurate statement. LOL.

I think that he stayed too long mainly because I never enjoyed any of his performances. Some were less bad than others. Most just sucked. Lots of bad song choices.

He wasn’t nearly as good as he apparently thought he was. LOL.

I hope that the judges never use the “save” this season. I can’t see that turning out well.

He wasnà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t nearly as good as he apparently thought he was.

I don’t see anything wrong with aspiring artists believing they’re good; otherwise they’re in the wrong business. And to be fair, this perceived ‘attitude’ of Michael serves him well so far (well except he’s likely never gonna be liked by the same few who hate him in the first place LOL). If him thinking he’s better than he actually was on the show seems to be making him one of the more hardworking ex-Idols I’ve seen, then it’s cool. He’s doing okay and I’m sure his ambition only helps him take charge of his career. I doubt he’s been regularly booked for high-profile gigs just because he plays the shock boot card to the hilt. Besides, I’ve always liked that he seems to have struck the perfect balance in dealing with AI fans– nice and not dismissive but never in the too-familiar, crossing-the-line way. The same can’t be said for a lot of ex-Idols. So no, still not douchey for me at all.

To stay more on topic: I do agree that the save is not a good idea. It’s also likely to create some backlash against the one saved, especially among fans of other contestants who won’t benefit from it. But maybe that’s precisely what AI wants– more drama. Most contestants actually benefit more from a shock boot (as Michael did); only TPTB are probably tired of that storyline.

It’s good if he thinks he’s good…he should. But he has this arrogant way about it… I think he’s lacking graciousness, for the most part. Again that’s just the way I see him.

I really liked him during the show too…he seemed like a nice, easygoing, cool guy. But as I saw more interviews of him after his boot, that POV quickly changed. He just really comes across as extremely self-entitled for me…and it looks like I’m not alone in that observation.

I see how you and a few others see him (more ofen than not, actually, heh) and it’s cool, really. But personally and at the risk of repeating myself as well, I just don’t see it as self-entitlement when the guy has the talent if not the work ethic to try to earn any of the success he gets and back up the self-belief. And I also think I’m not alone in that observation. :biggrin_wp:

I see how you and a few others see him (more ofen than not, actually, heh) and ità ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢s cool, really. But personally and at the risk of repeating myself as well, I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see it as self-entitlement when the guy has the talent if not the work ethic to try to earn any of the success he gets and back up the self-belief. And I also think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not alone in that observation.

Sure all that’s good for you but I still reserve my opinion of him. Sorry, I’m just not a fan of this guy or his attitude… and I’m sure he will get along just fine even without my support.

Er, was not trying to change your opinion, just sayin how I saw it but ohhkaaayyy, lol. Anyway about the save, I thought it’s interesting that some fans think the judges are likely not gonna use it and that maybe the idea is to keep viewers wondering and tuning in if they will. Other than for the producers’ benefit, I still don’t get the merit of this rule change for the fans or contestants.

^^Yep and I am just telling you I don’t see it the way you do and I stand by what I originally said… YMMV of course…

It would be hilarious if someone they save this week gets eliminated in the double elimination anyway. The save thing is just dumb. Even if they save my favorite Adam, I’d still think it’s dumb.. if America didn’t really vote him in for the win, then maybe he doesn’t deserve it.

Oh, and Phil is awesome.

As a fan of Michael’s opinionated self, I’m all for standing by one’s views;) But Phil ain’t awesome–he’s the annoying douche for being a jealous hater who thinks too highly of himself instead of giving props to this season’s best contestants!!! I keed, I keed, of course.

It would be hilarious if someone they save this week gets eliminated in the double elimination anyway.

Haha. Which is why you’re right–the save is dumb. I’m curious if fans of the other so-called ‘shock boots’ even like or appreciate this rule. Of course, Daughtry and JHud fans as big as those two are now, don’t really care. But most MJ fans aren’t also thinking, ‘I wish they had this last year’ or ‘Thank god for the save, so what happened last season won’t happen to us again’ with their new favorite. Now I don’t know about Tamyra fans. I still have no favorite this season so I’m also wondering how other fans would feel if the rule was used on someone they like. I’m sure there’d be short-term relief but how they feel about it would eventually depend on the later outcome of the show and the kind of post-AI success the contestant gets.

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I don’t even find Michael’s elimination all that shocking. Sure, he was never in the bottom 3 prior to his boot ie Brooke, KLC and Syesha, but Brooke has had 3 good performances that has been ingrained in my memory before the top 12 (You’re So Vain, LIAB and Let It Be) and because of that she had built an early strong fanbase. KLC had the worsters backing her up LOL and as for Syesha, I’m still scratching my head on how she had survived the bottom 3 week after week.

As for Michael, I’ve forgotten what songs he had sung before top 12 and the only performance that really stood out for me from him was IAWBIAR. And he was the first to perform during the week he got booted. So no… not surprised that he got booted.

Phil Stacey is far from being a douche and surprised and grateful for having made it as far as he has. He has himself said that there were others better than he that were cut back in Memphis. He called it right concerning David Cook winning the title and even predicting where the winner would audition (Omaha), and I think he is right here, too. The link below shows him and Melinda at a charter school in the Florida panhandle. mj, if it does not show up, can you please correct it? Thanks! Their next appearance with the tour is tonight in Panama City. Go, my 2 season 6 favorites. :biggrin_wp:

http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/bay_haven_idols/mbb7715206/

I just donà ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢t see it as self-entitlement when the guy has the talent if not the work ethic to try to earn any of the success he gets and back up the self-belief. And I also think Ià ¢Ã¢â€š ¬Ã¢â€ž ¢m not alone in that observation.

Yup, you are not alone Prop Joe :smile1_tb:

I have heard and seen every interview of Michael Johns. Where this self-entitlement is coming from I have never seen it. His interviews are hilarious and he is so humble. You can tell the interviewers just love him..he is just fun to talk to. And you can tell he hates it when they ask him the same stupid questions over and over again..but, he obliges them. Michael is a sweetheart and if you followed him you would know that already!

So, yes I was totally shocked at is elimination…I can think of seven that was way worse then him.

Gah. Sensitive Michael Johns fans might want to step out of this thead DO NOT TELL OTHER POSTERS HOW TO POST.

I’m deleting and editing where necessary.

Everybody take a step back.