American Idol Season 12- Top 20 (Men Only)- Power List

First off. Let me just state how many of these guys I would love to replace with Gabe Brown, Nate Tao, Micah Johnson, and ESPECIALLY Charles Allen. I really hope Charles Allen comes back next year, above all else. He’s my Candice Glover of this season. Absolutely robbed.

There are a few people on this list that I know don’t make the top 20 guys, but I included them anyway, because there are boys who are in the top 20, who have had zero screentime.

20) Bryant Tadeo
He’ll forever be remembered as the boy who was too tired, so Nicki “cut him”. I don’t know if he has a lot of forward momentum at this point, but he’s more talented than the screentime has shown.

19) Elijah Liu
He was in Cortez Shaw’s group, so you did actually see him briefly. He’s a little fodderish right now, unless something changes next week.

18) Chris Watson
Stumbling around on stage and telling the judges that you weren’t looking around for someone to save you is not a good vote of confidence for the later rounds. I’m honestly surprised he wasn’t cut at groups.

17) David Leathers
He’s had almost no screentime this season (for good reason) and only makes this list because people remember him from last year.

16) Vince Powell
His audition was shown, but we lost him in Hollywood. Where did he go? We saw him make it through the final round, but we didn’t get to hear him sing.

15) Mathenee Treco
He’s way over the top. He got into a good group and probably had the best group performance of this season. However, he is also the weakest member of that group (including Mateus). I don’t see him making a voting round. He’s fodder.

14) Josh Holiday
Sadly, I’m beginning to think that unless Josh has a Kris Allen like breakthrough later, he’s slated to be fodder. Then again, Kris Allen proved you can have almost no screentime before the voting stages, and still win the entire competition. He’ll need to REALLY step up his game the next few times we see him.

13) Curtis Finch Jr
“I’m here to sen him home anyway.” I don’t know who he pissed off on the producers panel, but Curtis Finch Jr. got a negative edit. It’s going to be hard to bounce back from that and get into the finals, no matter how many undeserved standing ovations he gets. His “singing pop songs as praise songs” is going to get old really fast.

12) JDA
He’s a very particular candidate for a very particular voting group. His strength is that there honestly hasn’t been anyone like him on the show (Adam Lambert is probably the closest). I think he alienates middle america, and honestly his vocals aren’t that great. Interesting contender, but we’ll likely be leaving him behind in Las Vegas. Unless Nicki Minaj can work a miracle.

11) Paul Jolley
I don’t feel like the edit that he had in the last episode did him any favors. They could be pushing for Jimmy Smith to be the country male finalist, and this negative edit could be enough to get Jimmy to the voting rounds.

10) Adam Sanders
I think he’s a good singer. I think he’s over the top, definitely, but he’s a good singer. I feel like he deserves to have gotten as far as he’s gotten. I don’t think in any season that Adam will ever make the top 10, but I feel like he could easily make a Top 20 semifinals stage.

9) Johnny Keyser
His group struggled. He forgot his words. What once seemed like a surefire thing is now slipping into iffy territory. Johnny is going to need some strong performances if he hopes to be the white guy winner of this season.

8) Gurpreet Singh Sarin
I think he still alienates voters (even if that’s unfair), and that will keep him from cracking the top 10. However, I expect the producers/judges to put him through to the Top 10 boys and let America decide on him. For what its worth, he seems like a genuinely nice guy, but there really are better singers in the competition. That being said, had I not seen his rendition of Georgia On My Mind, he would have ranked lower on this list. That was a solid performance.

7) Devin Velez
Broke through in a big way with his performance of What A Wonderful World in the last episode. He trended on twitter. He caught America’s attention. Another strong performance in Vegas could make him a dark horse contender for the top 5 guys.

6) Jimmy Smith
His final song in Thursday’s episode was a poor song choice sung efficiently. Still, he didn’t get the edit that Paul Jolley got, and I can’t imagine our top 10 boys without one of the two country males.

5) Cortez Shaw
He was arguably the strongest member of his group, but he still has an earlier moment where Nicki criticized him for his iffy rendition of I Will Always Love You. Honestly, I didn’t think it was that bad. It was acapella, and I think Cortez started it a bit higher than he intended. The producers have done a good job of not showcasing Cortez’s enormous ego on screen, keeping his contender status in check. Even Nicki’s critique was met with eyerolls from Mariah.

4) Charlie Askew
His final day performance was weak. Still, he trended on twitter. There’s an odd fanbase out there for this kid, but he’s beginning to feel more like a Brett Lowenstern to me than a Top 5 finalist. If some of the people I ranked 5-10 churn out strong performances in Vegas and Top 20 week, Charlie could find himself out of the competition.

3) Nick Boddington
I had no idea when Hollywood Week started that I would be ranking Nick this high. Honestly, he’s had a GREAT hollywood week. He was the strongest part of his group, which again was arguably the best, and he also had a really great rendition of Stars, where he got to showcase himself on the piano. I’m thinking Nick is a contender for a Top 5 boys spot this year.

2) Burnell Taylor
He seems like a really likeable dude, and with the exception of Cortez Shaw, most of the other black guys still in the competition this season haven’t even been shown, have been given poor edits, or were cut early. Burnell seems like a surefire Top 5 boy right now.

1) Lazaro Arbos
This is definitely going to change. There are way better singers in the competition. And, as we’ve seen, Lazaro’s knowledge of music is almost non-existant. He will die during theme weeks when they force him to sing a Stevie Wonder song and he doesn’t even know who that is. Lazaro is the strongest boy in the competition, only because of the amount of screentime he’s gotten. Once the other boys start delivering stellar performances, Lazaro will start getting knocked down a few pegs. He’s by far the most popular male contestant right now though.

  • voicesinmyhead

    JDA isn’t the only one that’s gay. How  popular will Lazaro be when people find out he’s gay? It doesn’t matter to me but I’m just recalling Adam Lambert’s stint on the show.

  • http://twitter.com/avrohama aj rabin

    Every year after Hollywood week there were plenty of great guys to point to as frontrunners. Michael Johns s7 Danny Gokey s8 Andrew Garcia s9 Casey Abrams s10 etc. Many did falter in the end. But this years guys seem like a bunch of jokes though I’m liking Charlie Askew but he reminds me too much of Will Makar from s5 who didn’t make it far.

  • b_james

    Is Paul Jolley really country?  I mean I know he sang Carrie Underwood, but I just wouldn’t lump him into that style.  (I can’t remember anything else he’s done on the show though.)

  • CFIdolsfan

    I couldn’t agree with you more, mj. I would have to go back and watch all the guys, but there are several that have been cut that I would have loved to see go on. My son and I liked Curtis until he made that statement about sending his teammate home. I don’t like seeing a lack of compassion for others. I feel bad that the other guy, who did show some concern was cut. It made me remember how Jordan Dorsey was less than kind to Scotty for not letting him in his group. Scotty went on to win the season; I don’t know what became of Jordan.

  • http://macthemovieguyblog.wordpress.com SirMac

    If you can’t tell the difference between JDA and the other gay contestants on Idol, I’m concerned. JDA appeals to the fans of RuPaul’s Drag Race if that makes any sense.

  • http://twitter.com/avrohama aj rabin

    No one cares if a contestants straight or gay but the way JDA dresses turns off a lot of people. That black veil and showing his upper legs is just gross.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Lazaro is gay? How do we know this?

    If he is, we could possibly end up with two gay guys and one who is bi in the top 5 guys.

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    Uh oh. This list is going to get people talking. LOL

  • tucker davis

    I think it’s admirable that Lazaro is following his dreams and trying not to let his speech problem hold him back. But could you honestly see him doing the endless radio & tv interviews that come with being a finalist on AI? And I agree with you, MJ, there are way better singers in the competition.

  • voicesinmyhead

     It’s not hard to tell Lazaro is gay. He sang Edge of Glory by Lady Gaga (Adam sang Believe by Cher).  Other things that make it obvious to me but I won’t get into that.

    Noone call me homophobic because I was a fan of Adam Lambert.

  • voicesinmyhead

     I thought JDA was someone else but now that you mention RuPaul I remember who you are referring to.

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Yeah, it’s so hard to judge since we’ve seen many Idolers who have peaked during Hollywood week and on rare occasion we’ve seen guys who have gone a long way after getting like zero screentime (Kris, Jason C. to name a few)  Though a strong Hollywood week at least gets you enough goodwill to get past some iffy weeks in the early going.

    I pretty much agree with this list, though I think with Lazaro’s backstory and personality he’s going to likely last way longer than his talent warrants.  Though to be fair I think you’ve also hit the nail on the head with his lack of musical knowledge being a bit of a problem during theme weeks.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

     It’s rather naive to believe that no one cares if a contestant is gay IMO. A lot of people are “turned off” by it.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

     I didn’t notice he was gay until his Edge of Glory performance. He has “gay” mannerisms.

  • http://twitter.com/avrohama aj rabin

    I highly doubt Lazaro is gay. He might be shy from girls because of his speech. As long as a contestant doesn’t act overly gay it won’t harm them. No one who is socially conservative such as myself want to promote a contestant who after the show uses their star power to influence others against everything you believe in. Case in point Adam Lambert.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    Yet bet people who are against what he “believes”  in didn’t vote him for that very fact. Well, I refuse to vote for a Christian artist since they don’t “believe” in what I, Adam, or any gay do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Beth-Bowers/1357962780 Beth Bowers

    The Edge of Glory is a strong song no matter which sex sings it.  I don’t see the comparison to Adam’s version of Do You Believe, at all, which was the first time he turned a song on its head.

  • http://twitter.com/avrohama aj rabin

    Everyone has different reasons why they like a contestant or dislikes them. That’s the fun of idol. I guess it’s best to be the least controversial to appeal to a wide audience

  • http://twitter.com/HighTensions Jake W.

    I saw his twitter and it definitely gave off that vibe.

  • http://twitter.com/RonnieDRocks Ronnie D

    I guess I just don’t like the idea that being openly gay is controversial, and I do understand that it still is. However, some of the biggest stars are quite controversial. They havent been winning on idol though because the clean, wholesome, WGWG vibe is more acceptable, which is quite sad.

  • http://twitter.com/HighTensions Jake W.

    I agree completely. I’m a gay male in bible belt Arkansas and can certainly speak on half of how people act down here in the south. We all know how much the south loves AI.

  • mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    Please keep the discussion in this thread based on Season 12.  I’ll be monitoring and deleting off topic posts.

  • Latin2

    I like Lazaro, but what genre of music would Lazaro sing if he won the show? 

    So far I haven’t been able to pick that up.

    Like Josh Groban maybe?

  • http://twitter.com/desireechick Kesia Monteith

    Why are we obsessing over these guys’ sexuality? I can’t believe there only 4 or 5 comments about these rankings and their talents, and yet there’s an ongoing conversation on whether Lazaro is gay. Goodness….

  • Latin2

    So who were the ones who trended on Twitter? That also could be a big indication of who is popular.

    Charlie Askew and Devin Velez, who else? I didn’t notice because I was reading the blogs and the news reports being that I live in the West there were already a lot of stories by the media about the show coming from the East. I forgot to check my twitter.

    So who trended on Twitter besides those two? Anyone remember what was trending from idol and who was trending?

    Many older views don’t do twitter.

  • dishwalla

    A more important consideration for Lazaro is his genre of music.  The ballad type singer really isn’t relevant, whether it’s female or male.

  • quickjessie

     Oh my god.  That is all.

  • Latin2

     I agree. He reminds of David Archuleta, like a soft pop, ballad type singer, but Archie is a better singer IMHO.

    In the US that type of music is not as popular as it used to be.

  • sjames08

    Lazaro’s type of music will definitely do well in the competition. Mostly because his nice ballad tone is very David Archuleta. 

    Still rooting for Burnell! I like that he’s gotten #2 on this post. He needs to get a great edit for Vegas though.

  • elliegrll

    It doesn’t matter to me but I’m just recalling Adam Lambert’s stint on the show.

    When he came in second?  Second place isn’t exactly solid ground for building a case that people won’t vote for JDA, Lazaro, or anyone else who may not be heterosexual.

    AI’s current lack of popularity may be the reason, but JDA and Kez Ban have not received a lot of media attention.  In a way that’s a good thing, it shows that having them on the show isn’t a big deal.  Hopefully it’s a sign that people will accept them and others for who they are.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2K6LL4WPUTAY6TKG2VG3SYFA5M Erlinda

    At least Lazaro is not wearing veil over his face. I don’t think that was necessary. I myself switch channel at that point. So, there goes AI’s rating.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    As someone who likes the clean and wholesome vibe (but not necessarily the WGWG thing), I completely agree. I don’t like the idea that being openly gay is controversial. But it is. I don’t care if JDA is gay. I care about his singing. I also think the look is really forced, though, but that’s not extremely important. And I’m no fan of RuPaul’s Drag Race either, but I don’t think that show is supposed to appeal to straight guys anyway.

    The only potential Top 10 male contestant who pings my gaydar is Paul. Charlie’s apparently bi. None of it’s really important to me.

    TBH, I keep forgetting the R&B/soul singers are there aside from Devin. I keep forgetting Cortez, Curtis and Burnell exist, and I like their voices (Joshua has more soul than all 3 of them combined, though). My Top 5/6 still stands as Charlie, Lazaro, Nick, Paul, and one of Jimmy/Devin.

    Power list wise, I might be wrong. But those would be my picks for the guys half of the Top 10. I kinda wish they still did Top 12 so all 6 of those guys would make the finals, but I guess not.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    It’s not hard to tell Lazaro is gay. He sang Edge of Glory by Lady Gaga

    ….So what?

  • fantoo1

    Unless you are a Nielson viewer, it won’t matter.

  • fantoo1

    I don’t see how Lazaro is gay.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    Jimmy Smith has 1,340 followers on Twitter, while Paul Jolley has over 5,000.  Jimmy is a Social Worker, while Paul is a Nashville entertainer.  I am guessing he has a built in nfan base from the start.  I could see both in the TOP 10.

    Lazaro needs to be doing his homework and familarize himself with American Pop music.  He can’t keep using that excuse.  So many times a theme comes up that many of the contestants haven’t heard.  At some point, he may get to sing Gloria Estefan & the Maimi Sound Machine!

  • voicesinmyhead

     So when Adam sang Believe you said so what too…. oh he’s not gay. “I sang Believe before too”. Well your “gaydar” must be broken for Lazaro then. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    I guess I can kinda see it on Lazaro’s Twitter but not really in his song choice.

    One thing that did catch my eye on Twitter is that Jimmy Smith is followed by Barack Obama. I dunno why but I giggled.

    I only followed my favorites, though. That is, Charlie, Paul, Nick, Jimmy, and Lazaro.

  • tucker davis

    Yes, but can any of these guys write, play, & perform like this?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z263aBUUB3M

    You know Jimmy I. took one look at that face, heard what he wrote & played before AI with no formal training at all and said ‘he’s going in top 10!’  Ka’ching!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    Lazaro’s type of music will definitely do well in the competition. Mostly because his nice ballad tone is very David Archuleta.

    I also think he’ll do well, although his backstory may propel him a bit further than he should go if the producers milk it. He does come off as the type of contestant who’d be absolutely wrecked by a theme week, though. Like, he’d be absolutely shattered and fall into a bloody mess in Rock Week if they ever had it. So, he’s got some work to do.

    I hope the themes are as liberal as Nigel said they were supposed to be in Season 10.

  • Shante

    This is all really stupid. American idol is duping you all. These featured chumps are all amateurs. Seriously. If someone just played a video of Lazaro for any of you, you would say he was serviceable. At best. He is not a great singer. 
    Stories wear off. Seriously seriously seriously. Who wants to buy an album with a mediocre singer? So you can stop halfway through the track and say “and you know he can barely form a sentence when he’s not singing”? Music shouldn’t have to be explained. That’s why these sob stories don’t matter. And let’s not mention that there’s a little bitchiness under all the preciousness . Don’t act like you can’t see it.

    There are MANY good guys in this group. But they just aren’t featured enough.

    Cortez.
     Screamy. Cocky. If I see him side eye the judges ONE MORE TIME. Nothing is more annoying than seeing a singer give a fake genuine performance. If you look closely he’s always checking out the corner of his eye at what the judges reactions are about him.  No Cortez. We don’t think you want to share your light with others. You just wanna be famous. And Nicki isn’t disgusted by your performance. It’s what’s under your performance. Take a humility bath. 

    Curtis. 
    Oh Curtis. It was good the first time you did an intricate riff from the bottom of your range into your girly falsetto and cut it off abruptly at the top while looking “fiercely” and broodingly in a side direction. Bag of tricks 101. You can sing baby. But you aren’t Beyonce. This is not the SuperBowl. This is not a stadium. Tone it down for TV. Not everyone is hanging on your every word. Well we ARE hanging on your every word  when you are dissing other contestants behind their backs. I’d advise you to realize that there is a camera on you at all times. And America can see through you. Be they Christian or not. 

    Matheus. Seriously. Height NEVER had anything to do with it. You just weren’t good  in your performances and you were exposed. Yet they gave you all the screen time you could ask for.  Squandered time producers.

    JDA. All I can say is that the shtick you’re doing isn’t anything like Boy George. If you want to be progressive, be progressive. Don’t just slap on some glitter and heals. I know your intentions are well meant but work on it. You’re representing a very unrepresented community. Make it laudable. Not laughable. 

    I won’t even comment on these so called “country” hacks.

    Why all the novelty acts? This isn’t the circus.

    Where’s the talent? I appreciate them giving Nick his chance to shine. THAT’S what I want to see. Charlie’s on overkill. But that’s what I want to see. Interesting talent on overkill.
     Johnny go away. You’re making it cause you’re the “handsome” one. Why is no one mentioning that you choke. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Man up and show you deserve to be there!

    Where is Bryant? I couldn’t even tell you what that kid sounds like. Or looks like at this point.
    Where is Mathenee? If they show him at all, he’s usually killing it with an exciting performance and crazy vocals. But they show five seconds of it.
    What about Chris Watson? He’s been on two years and they never feature him as to give us reason why he’s made it this far (again) in the first place!
    And who’s Elijah Liu? Is he the good Asian guy that they feature a lot who got cut? Or the good Asian guy that they didn’t feature who stayed?

    I wish people would start calling it like it is. Please. And I wish Idol would remember that this is still a BUSINESS and NOT a Lifetime reality drama series. You aren’t gonna sell one record with these jokers you have chosen to feature so heavily. You cant buy an album with tears and pity.  And you are only going to sell about two records of the people you are featuring poorly.

    Dear Producers and Editors,
    These talented performers deserve better from you. (And that’s something you can’t blame on Nicki.)

    Please. Idol. Show. Me. An. Artist. 
    Show. Me. A. Star.

    Thanks. 

  • Jaejae1

    This power list and the fact that I remember so few of these guys hopefully mean the really compelling people will be in the girls group. I am not a Lazaro fan. I hate to say it but his stuttering is really annoying (it is. I know he can’t help it but I can’t stand hearing him speak) and he doesn’t enunciate well when he sings.  A lot of times the words are sort of smeared.  But he will hang around for the inspirational aspect. 

    I am already ready to see Curtis Finch go. He is a one trick pony and I wanted to throw something at my tv during his overblown and overwrought solo performance.  

    JDA is ridiculous.  The little of his singing I heard wasn’t anything special at all. 

    I did like #s 4 and 3 on the list. Particularly Charlie Askew.  

    Things can change but right now I really am hoping for an awesome,charismatic girl. 

  • Xentusk

    IMO, I don’t hear anything that stands out about Lazaro’s vocals. Add that I have seen several posts that say it’s not unusual for stutterers to lose their stutter when they sing….that kind of dulls that particular facet of his story for me.

    His lack of music knowledge on top of his seveer stutter, if he doesn’t read music either…..I can’t help but think AI would have to go above and beyond for him to succeed that far into the competition ie: vocal coaches, press, interaction with mentors, as tight as the Idols’ scedules are.

    So in order to aid Lazaro with what some might consider an ‘advantage’ others don’t get (more face time of overcoming struggles), there would have to be indications of high popularity for AI to commit that significantly……

    So, ya, I’m surprised how high he is listed

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    Yeah, his pre-Idol performance videos and his audition were all country songs. He’s also a Kelly Clarkson fan though.

  • dishwalla

    Lazaro’s overall musicianship is very limited.  His popularity stems more from his backstage sob story – he had no friends growing up because of his stuttering and music befriended him.  It’s the same sympathy card that Charlie Askew is playing – the misfit, social outcast.  But that’s going to grow old very quick.

  • cherelann

    Personally, I cannot judge these people because the sound bites AI feeds us cannot be trusted.  Back stories are there to grab the attention of the unsuspecting.  In general, the media cannot be trusted but that is an issue for a different blog.

    I believe most contestants are there to fulfill their dreams of a better life & AI can spin their stories & personality anyway they choose.  Once the contestants realize they’ve been duped, it is too late…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    I was thinking there was some type of better evidence in the way of kissing pictures or a facebook status. For me, a vibe isn’t enough to go on at this point.

    How does this work? The judges narrow it down to the top 10 guys, right? If so, I’m thinking that Charlie, Lazaro and Curtis are a lock for top 10. Then probably Nick, Devin and Paul or Jimmy. I don’t think they will put both country guys in the top 10. Devin is Latino, right? The judges are probably going to try and have a racially diverse top 10. That means they will add Cortez or Burnell in the mix, or maybe both? Who will the last two guys that they put through? Gurpreet and Johnny?

  • http://twitter.com/igobyleo Leo Ridela

    http://24.media.tumblr.com/7ed705268ba03a605b8c169cd19aa01a/tumblr_mhw36eBoov1qzd4lvo1_500.jpg

    I know some people will argue that that photo means nothing, but as a gay man, it really does.

  • jga94

    I would take out Cortez and Lazaro or Burnell and Charlie and instead put Paul Jolley and Devin in the top 5. Charlie is interesting but he is not that good a singer. Even with the dressing down that Paul got from Nicki, I do not think it will affect his fanbase because Paul’s nervousness seemed genuine while Matheus’ antics seemed put on….so I think the audience will be forgiving of Paul….maybe even emphatize with him….

    That Jimmy Smith is just so nondescript….he’s good looking, has a good vice but he is so forgettable….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    I agree about Paul, he seemed genuinely nervous (despite having performance experience). I think America will forgive that. I did. Actually, I mostly forgot about any sort of “story” other than Curtis kinda being a douchebag. I snicker when people call it a dressing down. lol.

    I think I’d take out Cortez or Lazaro. I found Burnell’s song forgettable (Probably because Idol didn’t show a lot of it), but I still remember that good audition.

    And now that I’m thinking about it more and more, I love Lazaro’s voice, but his lack of musical knowledge can make things get REALLY brutal.

  • genius13

    The fact that there are only 28 guys left in the competition and there are at least 10 that we haven’t heard sing a single note…that makes absolutely no sense to me…98% if the AI audience is not like us…they don’t frequent blogs and don’t look up spoilers…all they see it what is show on tv…there are even some people who’s name hasn’t even been shown on tv

    Let’s take last season for example…Philip and that Reed guy got their audition shown and pretty much most of the background footage shown while Jessica Sanchez didn’t have her audition shown and her name WASN’T EVEN SPOKEN until the las Vegas round…I don’t see how that makes sense to the producers

  • http://kristentheyellowlab.blogspot.com/ ZsusK

    I’m confused. Aren’t we down to the Top 20?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUERDPR4UGX4SGQBAWPNCBP6UY Ria

    I am surprised Lazaro is still there, based on his performances.  I think his audition made an impact because you did not expect him to sing so well.  I thought his other performances were shakey and I don’t think he will hold up for long in the competition.
    I liked Nate, Gabe, and Charles who are all now gone.
    I am hopeful for Charlie at this point.  In his audition I thought he was too “Broadway.”  But in Hollywood he is not coming off as “Broadway.” I think he has had some great moments when singing.  He could be the one that just keeps doing something interesting and different every week. 
    I agree Cortez might have too much of an ego and that could be his downfall.  I thought it was very fun that he sang a Whitney song. I wish he had sung it better.  But still he gets a lot of points from me for the bold move.  I will be surprised if he does not make it to the guys’ top 10.   He might become one of my favorites.
    Of the guys that I think are in the Top 20, Nick Boddington is the only other one who has made an impression on me every time he has sung.  I expect him to be in the guys’ top 10 and top 5.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6I5UHCVHYO4NDWVALY2543MYNA Sean

    Devin Velez,  Charlie Askew, and Nick were my faves this week!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    I was thinking there was some type of better evidence in the way of
    kissing pictures or a facebook status. For me, a vibe isn’t enough to go
    on at this point

    For the record, since I think it was you who asked me if Paul was gay, the vibe is all the evidence some of us had about Paul, too.

    And I believe the judges choose up to the Top 20. I’ve read both that they choose up to the Top 20 and that they choose up to the Top 10. If the judges narrow it down to 10, I see Charlie and Curtis as locks, Lazaro as a semi-lock, and two of the other spots going to Nick, Paul, or Jimmy.

    If the voters narrow it down to 10, suddenly Curtis is no longer a lock and I see the other 3 guys making it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUERDPR4UGX4SGQBAWPNCBP6UY Ria

    ZsusK there are still 28 guys who can make the top 20.  They said they will cut that 28 down to 20 during next Thursday’s show.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    How are we going to get from 20 to 10? Anyone know for sure?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    Finally got to reading what MJ said from the press release.

    We have the Top 40 right now. The producers judges will cut that 40 down to 20. Then we vote the 10 who stay.

  • Emmuzka

    The fact that there are only 28 guys left in the competition and there are at least 10 that we haven’t heard sing a single note…that makes absolutely no sense to me.

    I have a theory that AI is intentionally limiting the exposure of the real male contenders in order to give the women a few weeks more time to build fan bases. This will be tested in the future, though. If they’ll also show plenty of women that then will be cut later instead of those who will eventually end up in live rounds, the theory can be trashed. 

  • http://twitter.com/HighTensions Jake W.

    I really hope Charlie makes it to the voting rounds. I hope he doesn’t get Brett Lowensterned.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    Oh my God that might be who Charlie reminded me of this whole time. The lovechild of Brett Loewenstern and Tim Lincecum (one of my favorite baseball players) lol. I can kinda see that happening, but Brett didn’t really help with his rendition of Light My Fire. I don’t see Charlie going that route or suddenly tanking so badly he goes from one of the favorites to not even having a chance.

    And now that I’m reading the first sentence again of this write-up again, I just remembered Gabe Brown. Can he, like, take someone’s place? I want Charlie, Paul, Nick, Jimmy, and Gabe dammit.

  • jpfan2

    There are more gay guys than I’ve seen on Idol for awhile. It would actually be cool of every guy. Chosen was gay but I doubt that. Will happen.

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    The interaction between Paul Joley and Nicki has me mystified.  Is Paul really that nervous with hisa Nashville backround, or is it an attempt to feel some emotion from him.  I think he will be in the TOP 10 finalists.

    We haven’t heard much from JDA.  He’s been influenced by the Beatles and Jimi Hendrix.  Quite interesting.  I think Charlie gets through easily.  Yet, will there be an AA male in the Finalists?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1759402889 Natalie Blake

    MJ, you have me curious why you say of David Leathers, “He’s had almost no screentime this season (for good reason)”. I really loved him last year and think he’s just got a cute personality. Is there some scandal afoot?

  • http://www.fatladysings.us/ TFLS

    Charlie Askew is my favorite guy.  There’s just something about him – and I love his voice.  Different is the name of the game these days – especially in solo artists.  With Charlie they’d have something to sell.

  • blackberryharvest

    Hollywood has always been about the drama and the freaks.

  • http://twitter.com/mafs95 Mafalda Abreu

    It’s hard to tell who’s going to be a front-runner between the guys. I only make predictions after the Top 20 performs, that’s when we see people performing in front of a live audience and that shows us who are the more professional artists at this moment.

    If I had to make a prediction right now, I’ll say that probably Charlie Askew will go to the Top 10 because he has a nice voice and people love his personality (which is also important voting-wise).

  • MellyPer1692

    I just hope there are no Jesus freaks this year. That just completely turns me off. There are a couple who seem that they might be of that persuasion, so I hope they don’t make it far.

    Interesting ones to me are Askew, Finch and Nick.

  • Karen C

    I thought Nick Boddington was very good, and I think Charlie Askew might end up being a breakout star, and artist.  Curtis Finch has a very good voice, but his style seemed too exaggerated.   Lazaro is a ok singer, but not sure how far he will go.  

  • tomr

    Someone’s sexual persuation should make no difference but I have to admit that overly feminine characteristics on guys tends to turn me off (my problem, not theirs).  It does affect my voting.  Just wondering whether it might influence others as well?

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    MellyPer1969, I am trying to think of how a Jesus Freak acts.  Is it something like what Colton said or did on Idol last year?

  • fuzzywuzzy

    “I just hope there are no Jesus freaks this year. That just completely turns me off. There are a couple who seem that they might be of that persuasion, so I hope they don’t make it far.”

    Amen! lol

  • Emmuzka

    Maybe Idol is intentionally turning off the viewers that are socially conservative (afraid of the contestants “who after the show use their star power to influence others against everything you believe in”), don’t like weils on men or overly feminine characters. Instead they could cater people who love gay-themed fan service, be it real (Adam Lambert) or imagined (One Direction, Fall Out Boy, P!nk).

  • irockhard

    I’m a Christian and I have no problem befriending gay people anymore than I have a problem befriending straight people of other religions. It’s just a disagreement like any other disagreement (the disagreement being living a homosexual lifestyle not identifying oneself as gay), that doesn’t mean we can’t find common ground in the form of other interests and things to talk about, cause there’s more to everyone than their sexual orientation. As far as artists goes, it’s their music that matters to me cause that’s what I buy, I couldn’t care less about their personal lives, as it’s neither my problem nor my business.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NDYOWBIIPZU6PBRHGOPT2ZZJXQ sweetmm

    Not looking forward to the guys live shows as much as if Nate Tao was in :(

  • Valarie

    Idol is committing suicide and I don’t really care to watch the death throes. Ken Warwick’s war against white Christians from the South, has racheted up to a ridiculous level. He may finally get a winner of his choice, but no one will be watching, or even care.

  • RalphResty

    Nick is my fave from the guys so far based on what we saw on TV.

  • Mateja Praznik

    Honestly, if some viewers are turned off from Idol because this season isn’t offering many white, southern, Christian, wholesome, boring and charisma-free boys, then … awesome. They should have done that years ago.

    When I started following the show around season 7, I have to admit that what  I soon figured that this show is very type-cast. The same mostly safe types are offered every season. Also, when I looked at TOP 24 chosen for the semifinals, I didn’t get the feeling that I could meet those young people on the streets of some random American town. No, the cast was usually too wholesome, pretty, type-cast and safe.

  • wordnerdarchie

    I didn’t get the feeling that I could meet those young people on the
    streets of some random American town. No, the cast was usually too
    wholesome, pretty, type-cast and safe.

    Actually, as a resident of a random American town most of the top 24 from each season is representative of what you’d see.  I would never see someone looking like JDA, for example lol.  Maybe your town is the exception?  Or maybe you don’t live in middle America?

  • http://www.facebook.com/bill.mitchell.3954546 Bill Mitchell

    Not feeling Burnell Taylor at all.  His lack of vocal depth will be exposed early. 

    Right now my favorite is Nick Boddington because he is the only one who gave me that “chills” moment – but then again that Stars song is lyrically one of the most beautiful ever written.  Who out there can’t relate to that song?

    Too bad Paul Jolley is such a head case.  I mean my God, he is exceptionally good looking and talented – what is his problem?  Paul, stop staring at your navel and “how badly you want this” for a while and jussst sanggg.  The whole “I’m talented but a complete pu**y” edit is doing you no favors.

    And please can we have a new rule?  NO MORE CRYING FROM MALE CONTESTANTS!  Geesh.

  • Mateja Praznik

     I don’t live in America.

    I watched some videos of AI season 1 and that season’s cast seemed “normal” to me. They seemed like random young people from some random American town.

    I just think that over the years TPTB started type-casting the show heavily to appeal to middle America.

  • Valarie

    Idol isn’t exactly rolling in viewers this season. If it is because of Ken Warwick’s war against his largest viewing block – awesome!

  • irockhard

    I think this is going to be a major talking point this season:

    https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=gay+guys+American+Idol&src=typd

  • Karen C

    Honestly, if some viewers are turned off from Idol because this season isn’t offering many white, southern, Christian, wholesome, boring and charisma-free boys, then … awesome. They should have done that years ago.

    When I started following the show around season 7, I have to admit that what I soon figured that this show is very type-cast.

    No one in the Season 7 top 12 fit those characteristics, in fact, they had a very diverse cast that year, both musically and even racially, with 3 latinos, and 2 blacks in the top 12.   There is actually more that fit at least the southern part this year than there was that season, and even Season 8. I don’t think any were really charisma free either, that year in subsequent years.  The only winner that has really discussed Christianity while on the show was Scotty McCreery.

    I think the wholesome and safe part comes from the premise of the show that the all American boy or girl next door that can sing can become a major star.  That’s the part of the show that I think registers with middle America and is why the winners pretty much fit that mold.

    This year, I think the cast doesn’t seem as musically diverse as in the past few years, and very few are really standing out to me.  They seem to mostly be Country, pop and R&B.  Maybe Charlie is alternative rock, or at least pop rock.  But the majority of the guys are either Country, Pop or R&B.

  • Karen C

    I watched some videos of AI season 1 and that season’s cast seemed “normal” to me. They seemed like random young people from some random American town.

    I think the seasons since probably Season 4 are much more representative of American music than Season 1 was, because there was no country and little rock then, which are popular in the US. 

  • Mateja Praznik

    Well, season 1 cast actually seemed “fresh” to me. Maybe because I’m really tired of all kinds of rockers, alternative rockers, folk and country types on these shows.

  • Incipit

    Ken Warwick’s war against his largest viewing block 

    I have to make three giant assumptions to even ask this question, Valarie – and I am mega uncomfortable with assumptions – but I’m curious enough about your answer to do it anyway…

    Assuming there are some sort of cites for a ‘war’ coming from Ken Warwick, assuming that he has the authority to make unilateral decisions like that with no reference to Nigel or FOX or even Fuller, and assuming there are some stats to identify ‘Idol’s largest viewing block’ (unless that’s done with the ad demo and only relates to age or gender?) – what does Ken Warwick, or any member of the Idol PTB, or FOX have to gain by making war on this assumed viewing block, or any viewers? 

    What’s the upside if Warwick wins this assumed ‘war’? Losing one set of viewers does not guarantee gaining another set in exchange – not logical.

  • elliegrll

    Let’s take last season for example…Philip and that Reed guy got their audition shown and pretty much most of the background footage shown while Jessica Sanchez didn’t have her audition shown and her name WASN’T EVEN SPOKEN until the las Vegas round…I don’t see how that makes sense to the producers

    Seeing about 18 of the 28 guys is pretty impressive.  We always say that we want to see more of the contestants, but AI has to deal with the reality of time constraints.  

    Plus, as someone said about last season’s decision to leave the bad auditions of the first round, this isn’t a documentary about people who we know, and are already invested in.  The show would be pretty boring without the padding and forced narrative lines.  Despite the online viewer complaints, it’s the padding/storylines, and not just the singing, that make us care about these contestants.

  • elliegrll

    Let’s take last season for example…Philip and that Reed guy got their audition shown and pretty much most of the background footage shown while Jessica Sanchez didn’t have her audition shown and her name WASN’T EVEN SPOKEN until the las Vegas round…I don’t see how that makes sense to the producers

    Seeing about 18 of the 28 guys is pretty impressive.  We always say that we want to see more of the contestants, but AI has to deal with the reality of time constraints.  

    Plus, as someone said about last season’s decision to leave the bad auditions of the first round, this isn’t a documentary about people who we know, and are already invested in.  The show would be pretty boring without the padding and forced narrative lines.  Despite the online viewer complaints, it’s the padding/storylines, and not just the singing, that make us care about these contestants.

  • Valarie

    Ken Warwick has publicly dissed white, southern Christians more than once in interviews. They have been his scapegoat for ‘America getting it wrong.’ No, I am not going to dig up links.

  • Mateja Praznik

     Oh well. I guess even someone as dumb as Ken Warwick gets it right once in a while.

  • elliegrll

    Idol isn’t exactly rolling in viewers this season. If it is because of Ken Warwick’s war against his largest viewing block – awesome!

    The war must have started last year, since the drop in viewers was much bigger than it is this year.  Casting a diverse group of contestants does not mean that the producers are attacking the beliefs of white Christian viewers.   If the show had pandered to that block during its first five seasons like they’ve done the past six, American Idol would not have lasted this long, or had the pop culture impact that it did.

    It’s also interesting that the show has seen an increase among 18-34 year old viewers this year.  I’ve always said that one of the reasons for the decline among younger viewers was the lack of diversity in the casting.

  • Valarie

    I don’t know how the show has ‘pandered’ to any group in the past. Season 8 had minorities Lil Rounds, Anoop Desai, Matt Giraud, and Allison Iraheta in the top 7.

  • Incipit

    Ken Warwick has publicly dissed white, southern Christians more than once in interviews. They have been his scapegoat

    You may not have answered my question of ‘what does Warwick have to gain by going to war’ – but you answered one I didn’t even ask! So ‘white southern Christians’ are assumed to be Idol’s largest viewing block? OK.

    Then isn’t Warwick’s scapegoating of the viewers who beef up his ad rates and blaming them for Idol’s dumb casting more than a little misplaced? Shouldn’t he be railing against Idol’s biggest VOTING Block?  Or hasn’t anyone ever figured out a way to prove who that is? We know Viewers and Voters are not the same thing, by a (excuse the expression) Country Mile. Heh.

  • Valarie

    I have to assume that Ken’s undiplomatic comments were an attempt to cover his backside for season 9’s ratings and tour disaster. Nigel was quickly summoned back to take charge dealing with the press.

  • John M

     It’s also interesting that the show has seen an increase among 18-34 year old viewers this year.  I’ve always said that one of the reasons for the decline among younger viewers was the lack of diversity in the casting.

    This is something I’m surprised isn’t spoken about more. If the 18-34 viewership does go up this season…the show could be saved for the next few years. The show needs younger viewers, and frankly younger viewers are much less likely to be turned off by Nicki and a bunch of gay guys in the competition. If the show loses a bunch of older voters who are bigoted against gay people, I don’t view that as a loss. 

  • Valarie

    If the gain in the 18 to 34 demo is large enough, then the show may survive. Nicki and Keith have been great to watch. The talent I have seen so far is not exciting, in my opinion. That is why I said I hope I just happened to miss the best singers.

  • jga94

    If I had it my way…top 5 males would be: Paul, Devin, Charlie, Nick,Adam.

  • Valarie

    I have to wonder if Paul Jolley’s nervousness was all for drama. Did he perhaps think that extreme nervessness that goes away when he sings, would get him the same sympathy that James Durbin got for his battle with Tourettes? It just seemed fake to me.

  • MellyPer1692

    12) JDA
    He’s a very particular candidate for a very particular voting group. His strength is that there honestly hasn’t been anyone like him on the show (Adam Lambert is probably the closest)

    How in the world is JDA like Adam?
    Because he’s gay?? His vocals, looks, types of songs aren’t similar at all. Just lol at all the protesting that sexual orientation makes no difference on Idol.

    If the show loses a bunch of older voters who are bigoted against gay people, I don’t view that as a loss. ”

    THIS.

  • potatorocks

    The tide has changed.  Southern conservatives are no longer a demographic to be cherished.  It is change or smoulder out for idol.  They need to do what it takes to move their viewing demographic to younger more diverse people.  They really have nothing to lose.  The viewing trend says they likely have 3(???) more years if they don’t do anything and  they will lose sponsorships along the way as they die.  They need to take chances and I think they are.   I HOPE they are.

  • Valarie

    I had to google JDA, since he is one I had not seen yet. He was definitely the best of his awful group, but definitely not an Adam Lambert. Clothes alone do not make the singer.

  • mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    Yep. Deleting off topic comments. Please keep the conversation focused on American Idol 12 and the list posted above.

  • http://twitter.com/raya4 raya

    Not that I give a crap who among this group is gay, straight or bi or whatever, but I do take some issue with making assumptions about someone’s sexuality, one way or another, just based on a song they chose to sing (off of like a 20 song list).  Or because somebody’s mannerisms when they sing are perceived to be gay.  Especially since as mentioned with someone like Lazaro, he seems to have very, very limited musical knowledge, and is probably just picking a song he knows on some level.  Mind you, I don’t care if he is or he isn’t, since either way I don’t find his talent all that compelling. 

  • mjsbigblog

    Reminder:

    Also, for those who seem confused on the point…I did not create this list. The author is Sir Mac. If you have any questions, they need to be directed to him….

  • jpfan2

    I could care less but Lazaro is obviously gay. I also think a top 5 of all gay guys would be kinda cool..) Actually I just want a variety of genres. Too many singers of one genre is a bore.

  • wordnerdarchie

    The only ones from the list that I can put a face with the name at this point are:

    David Leathers (because of last season)
    Johnny Keyser (because of last season)
    Lazaro Arbos (due to his backstory)
    Charlie Askew – his last performance made an impression
    JDA (his appearance)
    Paul Jolley (?? don’t know why I know his name, lol)

    All the rest are just names for me at this point.

  • http://twitter.com/bluinjewin Landon Cox

     This may be the entire strategy to get a non-WGWG winner; bring in Nicki Minaj (have you seen the comments on Lyndsey Parker’s article? they’re absolutely vile) make your contestants more diverse (I feel like there have been a lot more men of color this year, especially African American, even if they haven’t made it all this way) and the frau will find something else to watch…like CBS. They know ratings are going to shrink anyway, but at least this way they can minimize the damage by helping the brand and if the gays + Nicki bring in a younger demo, that always helps.

  • http://twitter.com/1outside Maj

    Who is the bi one?

  • John M

    I think we are going to end up with Burnell, Paul, Nick, Devin, and Charlie in the top 5. I think Lazaro will be the shock cut at top 40, but people will be okay with it for the most part because his performance won’t be great. I think the top ten guys will be the 5 I mentioned along with Cortez, Curtis, Jimmy, JDA, and Josh.

  • potatorocks

    I beleive many male singers- regardless of sexual preference- practice the big songs.   Elliott sang Whitney as a young man to challenge himself I believe.

  • elliegrll

    I think that for the most part the male singers who have tried out for AI and who have gone the furthest in the competition are the guys who sing lots of ballads, soft rock, and songs that are traditionally associated with female singers.  Neither the producers or the voters seem to take to male contestants who don’t do these three things.

  • elliegrll

    I think that for the most part the male singers who have tried out for AI and who have gone the furthest in the competition are the guys who sing lots of ballads, soft rock, and songs that are traditionally associated with female singers.  Neither the producers or the voters seem to take to male contestants who don’t do these three things.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KUERDPR4UGX4SGQBAWPNCBP6UY Ria

    - Every year they go after certain types of artists. It is probably a good idea if for no other reason than it helps separate the seasons.
    – For me, the worst is when they go for teens.  Some are really good but if that is their focus then we also get a lot who are not ready for this.  This year we have thankfully seen very little focus on 15 and 16 year olds.
    – Remember Crystal’s year they were going for blond female guitarists ala Taylor Swift?  There were about 6 of them in Hollywood that were good and it was hard to tell them apart and place the name with the face. Crystal won that battle of recognition very early on.
    – IF they are looking for a black R&B guy this year, I am okay with that.  I just want them to choose well.  With this panel, you would think they could choose well.  But if that were the case then we should have had about 5 standouts we had already heard.  We should be having trouble picking between them by now.  That is not the case so far.  Curtis got bad edits and is already losing support for that, I have never understood the love for Tyrell’s voice, Frankie fell apart in Hollywood and is gone, Charles Allen was great and got cut, the guy with the scrarf on his head has already had a major moment with missed lines so if he is even still there he is on thin ice, and Cortez gives the vibe he might be one impromptu question away from sticking his foot in his mouth so far he can not recover.

  • overthetop1

    I’ve been watching the shows and I also just realized that I dont know any of their names really. No one is making an amazing impression at all. The only perf in guys Hollywood week that was really impressive was Nick at the piano. That’s it.

    Charlie and Lazaro both get me down. I don’t think Charlie is that good a singer but people like an underdog and he really seems like on, just like Clay Aiken did. But could Charlie really be a pop idol? Unless it turns out that he plays three instruments, he just doesn’t seem talented enough.

    And Lazaro isn’t that great a singer. He’s sailing through for his story and because, after talking, his singing voice seems like a miracle. Once he starts singing without talking first, it will be obvious that he’s just way less talented of a performer than most of the guys still in the competition.

    Sad about Nate Tao. Very nice voice, compelling story, and so very adorable looking.

  • shell29

    The only guys so far that have really grabbed my attention are Nick Boddington, Devin, and to a slightly lesser extent Adam & Burnell. Lazaro strike me as an early favorite who will flame out quickly. Paul is just OK IMO. Gurpreet is an average singer at best. Didn’t get what all the fuss was about with Keyser last season and still don’t. Charlie: I like his awkward quirkiness but he isn’t that great vocally so I wonder how far his quirkiness will carry him.

  • tarquinius

    Though no name was mentioned, there was a top five bi contestant reference from Taylor. About 15 to 20 posts later another poster, possibly assuming that it was true, added a name… ” Apparently Charlie’s bi “.

    I’ve seen nothing from Charlies’ tv time or in print that would indicate anything of the sort…but unfortunately, that’s how rumors begin.

  • Incipit

    wordnerdarchie, I’ve only seen a couple videos here – so I could have posted the very same thing – except for Lazaro Arbos…I didn’t see his video. David and Johnny from last season – I recognize, but I have no interest in either one.

    They are all just names, except for Charlie Askew – who did make an impression. Between mj’s vids and the Barbershop Quartet vid – I wanna hear more from this one. 

    Paul makes me think of JollyTime Popcorn, after he was asked to try for one minute of professionalism…which I thought was completely warranted, BTW…someone in that group wanted to “share his light” (how pretentious can you get? Don’t answer that) and that made me immediately erase his face and name from my memory banks. I remember Cortez from last year too – he had a very good voice and stage presence, but I figured Nigel would never let him through then, because he didn’t have a ‘safe’ Teddy Bear vibe at all. Since he got this far I thought, hey, this year is really different.

    But then I read this:“Cortez gives the vibe he might be one impromptu question away from sticking his foot in his mouth so far he can not recover.” And after I finished laughing at the image – I thought – So it all comes down to the edits, if TPTB want him gone – it’s that easy to do…with his unwitting co-operation, too.

    Oh, So the show has to snitch some time from the females next week to finish narrowing down the male contestants to 20? OKFine. That’s when I will start to pay attention, when I know who is actually gonna be around, and can be voted on. 

    But just an aside – it depends on your browser, but if you put the word ‘askew’ in google, you ‘may’ get an unexpected result….and Charlie ‘may’ be well named – if the emphasis is on the second syllable of the word – his surname can mean oblique, off-kilter, skewed, irregular – all sort of the way his approach strikes me – or at least I hope so – ready for a few fresh types instead of archetypes to be cast for this show. There hasn’t been in quite a while. IMO. Of Course.

  • Gerrit Verstoep

    I’m getting a Leo Sayer vibe from Charles which means there may be more beneath this campfire than warm coals . . . I just wish his teeth weren’t so yellow.

  • Gerrit Verstoep

    Yeah and he’s probably a Democrat who voted for Obama too. What could be worse than that unless he’s also pro gun control.

  • Gerrit Verstoep

    And that’s why untalented, or should I say unoriginal, WGWGs have been winning.

  • Gerrit Verstoep

    I sing ‘Edge of Glory’ every time I’m close to a climax.

  • Gerrit Verstoep

    I might remind you of Country/Western Mel Tillis who became a singing star despite suffering from a severe stutter.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Tillis

  • Gerrit Verstoep

    My uncle was a severe stutterer, so much so that you wanted to help him finish his sentences. But he loved acting and performed in many amateur productions. And you know what? While he was on stage, he never stuttered – even when reciting a 2 page monologue. But as soon as he would hit the wings he was as incoherent as always. Who knows why?

  • Gerrit Verstoep

    It wasn’t Judy, Barbra or Liza = so there’s that!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Charlie’s facebook personal information in the about section, says he is interested in both “men and women”. It is his personal facebook, he typed in the information.
    That’s why people are saying he is bi.

  • Gerrit Verstoep

    I think the problem with Brett was, you could smell the patchouli through the TV set.

  • Gerrit Verstoep

    Paul Jolley is just another way of saying “Prima Dona’.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HWRPW434YQTROZ3J5E4BSLWEYM H.A.

    If we end up with only gay boys along with the girls for top10 it will be THE BEST IDOL SHOW EVER. Yes, it will turn of “socially conservative” voters but who cares. The ratings might go down but hopefully there will be enough 18-34yr old who could care less about the gays to make up for it. We might actually get a girl winner because the socially conservatives AI demo will do everything in their power to make sure a gay don’t win. If we get a girl winner she might actually be successful.  Jimmy Iovine is invested in making sure Idol winners do well.

  • chillj

    That doesn’t mean anything.  I checked off both in Facebook, because I like both – just not for the same reasons.

  • chillj

    Hon, we all do.

  • chillj

    I am easy; I would like a melisma free top five.  No runs, no pretense, no theatrics.  Many of the guys I saw Thursday were a little over the top with the vocals; it gets unpleasant.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Any young person knows what the “interested in” question on facebook means. If you put “men and women”, you are stating publically that you are interested in a possible relationship with either a male or a female.

  • tarquinius

    He has an Idol page, a fan page and another he opened on 2/6, and I just don’t see anything in the about section, of any of them, regarding an interest in ‘ men and woman ‘.

    The only thing I found of late, via google, was this:
    ” Charlie Askew gives off bisexual violinist/ pianist vibes. “…from a poster from VFTW.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    It would be awesome, but I care more about “an excellent performer of a winner” than I do about a winner who’s gay and will turn off social conservatives (which would be awesome) or even the female winner that Idol’s been pining for for a while. After all, it’s not all bad for girls. The Voice and The X Factor have had girl winners recently.

    Oh snap, Charlie’s friends with some Idol contestants on Facebook! They don’t put a lot of info out. Well, there goes the Facebook stalking!

    Devin is apparently straight, Puerto Rican, and Colombian, likes Muse (YAY), and is a fan of the Bulls and Blackhawks. He also talks in a crapload of emoticons xD :P :O (like that).

    Zoanette has ancestry from Liberia?

    Everyone else is really private and for probably good reason >_>.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Search for Charlie Askew on facebook. He is playing a guitar in his profile picture.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    These stupid “socially conservative” voters have been messing with Idol voting results for years!

    The only reason Southern girl Kelly won is because Justin was half-black.
    The only reason Ruben won is because Clay was gay.
    The only reason Fantasia won is because frauen were jealous of Diana.
    The only reason Carrie won is because Bo looked like a hippy.
    The only reason Taylor won is because frauen were jealous of Katherine.
    The only reason Jordin won is because Blake was too progressive.
    The only reason Cook won is because Archie was not White.
    The only reason Kris won is because Adam was gay.
    The only reason Lee won is because frauen were jealous of hippy Crystal.
    The only reason Scotty won is because frauen were jealous of Lauren.
    The only reason Phillip won is because Jessica was not White.

    Darn voters! They need to eliminate voting all together!

  • blackberryharvest

    I love how the definition of a WGWG has changed over the years LOL.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    LOL

    For the record, Archie is half white.

  • MellyPer1692

    I am easy; I would like a melisma free top five. No runs, no pretense, no theatrics. Many of the guys I saw Thursday were a little over the top with the vocals; it gets unpleasant.”

    I’m easy too. I would like a top five that is free of average voiced guys be they country or pop or HAC. I would also like them to have some performance skills rather than them getting by with the pretense of just being a shy, humble, good ole boy who doesn’t care about Idol or reaching a wide audience.

  • http://twitter.com/shoriagirl Shoriagirl

    Charlie plays guitar and is from Arkansas. I think this is a big turn off for a certain segment of Idol viewers.

  • Incipit

    I suppose that’s always possible, Shoriagirl. Depends on their criteria. Geography isn’t even on my list – although actual skill is.
    If any one of the contestants can perform with believability, have melisma-free vocals that never make me cringe, are smart enough not to do retread songs from other seasons, and can deal with Jimmy successfully, and with grace… I won’t care where that person is from, or what instrument they may play.  If they know how to do subtext, all the better. *snerk*

  • chillj

    You can also be stating that you do not like the question.  Much the same as checking off all the nationality and race questions on government forms.
    The question can mean anything you want it to mean and that is how I took it; I’m sure I am not the only one.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Playing guitar and being from Arkansas didn’t stop Kris from winning. Maybe Charlie will do the same.

  • tarquinius

    I saw that FB page, but disregarded it because of the picture and the location – Burbank, California. The ‘ men and women ‘ disclosure would be right in line with the other quirky, not so serious stuff already in his about info. The young man seems to exude and relish ‘ offbeat ‘. ;~ )

  • elliegrll

    I would like some contestants who are fun to watch on the show.  I don’t care if they become mega successful once the show ends, just as long as they respect the show, and don’t feel the need to come off like they are better than AI and all of the contestants before them.  People don’t have to be overly humble, but they do need to be thankful for this opportunity  I’d like to see people take chances, and not just copy what they think worked in the past.   

    I also want to see diverse styles, which I don’t think we are going to get out of most of these boys.   Post show, it would be nice to see people who can promote themselves, who don’t act like current music is beneath them, and who are ambitious.

  • dishwalla

    I am easy. I just want a top 5 guys who are free of drama, no back stage sob story to manipulate the audience. No over the top theatrics.  I am not interested teary stories of how tough of a life someone had. Just sing.  Nothing wrong with humble. Better than an inflated ego.

  • MellyPer1692

    Humble is fine, pretend humble is worse to me than having an ego. Theres an idol archetype and some play at it better than others. You see it more after the show when the shy quiet humble guy all of a sudden says theyre better and diffrent! than all the idols before them and what theyre doing is something that idol hasnt produced before. I’d rather have ego than that. I’ve also had enough of the “stand there and sing the same way every week” performers. I’m not a Durbin fan, but he was entertaining during season 10 because he tried different things. I like that and missed it in season 11.

    Since its been sad so many times that Idol is no longer really about singing ability, the “just sing” doesn’t work for me for many contestants.

  • Larc

    I’ll settle for singers who can really sing.  Unfortunately, that seems to be getting more optional these days.

  • MellyPer1692

    I also want to see diverse styles, which I don’t think we are going to get out of most of these boys. Post show, it would be nice to see people who can promote themselves, who don’t act like current music is beneath them, and who are ambitious.”

    This goes for me too

  • dishwalla

    I was referencing Season 12 and there seems to be a lot of sob stories and backstage soap operas.  When I said “just sing”, I am not interested in the drama of how someone was bullied or had no friends or identifies themselves as a social outcast in attempt to play the “poor me” “underdog” card.

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    Ummmm, I don’t know.  The few teens I know just LIVE to make shit up on their social media pages just to fuck with people’s heads.  I have rarely seen a straight forward page from one of them yet.  I wouldn’t take anything on anyone’s Facebook page as gospel.  Too many people make stuff up for a wide variety of reasons.

  • irockhard

    I don’t see much stylistic diversity in the girls either TBH. All we really have this season is country and R&B. They did great with assembling an ethnically diverse cast but they’ve ignored stylistic diversity and that’s more important than anything else.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    You can think what you want. I’m going with bi on this one.
    The rest that are in question are TBD at this point.

  • elliegrll

    Also, voting on back story is just as legit to me as voting for someone because they SEEM shy and humble. Neither is based on talent.

    In that case, it’s the same for voting for someone who seems or is different.  Or, because of someone’s sexual orientation.  For example, I had to role my eyes when Lyndsey Parker tweeted that she wants to see JDA in the top two.  The man has barely sung one verse yet, so it’s hard to tell if he’s a good singer.  

    That being said, AI is a television show, and like every television show there are storylines, and it’s pretty much impossible for those storylines not to have an impact on the way that people vote.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    That’s a bit of an annoying issue too. I like Charlie, Nick, and Lazaro, but I can’t put a genre to either of them yet (Nick, I’m not too worried about though). It’s still really early in the competition though. The country and R&B/soul singers have pretty much established their genre (i.e. Paul, Jimmy, Curtis).

    I feel like it could very well be the same with the girls. Janelle is definitely a country singer, that black rocker girl is definitely into rock (although she isn’t the greatest singer ever)…

    Some contestants are interesting/good enough to not really need to have a definitive genre (Charlie could be one, Haley was probably another, and I see it in Angela Miller of the girls)

    And I do not get the hint of any rock-inspired singers either, which sucks (although Devin does like Muse and a few other rock bands). I miss Gabe.

  • blackberryharvest

    I think there is still a chance to have a musically diverse top 10 though if they get the right people in the top 10:

    Rock/Indie-Charlie Askew
    Jazz/Indie-Julianna Chahayed
    Pop/R&B-Jett Hermano, Candice Glover, Devin Velez
    Bluesy soul-Christina Isabel Pasqualone
    Country-Janelle Arthur
    Pop/singer songwriter-Angela Miller
    Country rock-Kree Harrison
    Soul/Pop-Johnny Keyser
    Soul-Nick Boddington
    Gospel-Curtis Finch Jr

    It can be done if they put through the right people.

  • blackberryharvest

    I think Charlie will be able to do some rock. He sang Queen for his audition and has that theater type voice that can hit some crazy high notes.

  • Karen C

    And I do not get the hint of any rock-inspired singers either, which sucks

    I think Charlie might be alternative rock, he sang Neon Trees, and Gotye this past week. He kind of reminds me of Beck, too. 

  • http://twitter.com/KariannHart Kariann Hart

    So, does anyone ever view My SPACE?  Please go take a peek of a dude named JOSH DAVILA.  OK, is that JDA?  The nose seems similar but the voice?  I’m just not sure.  Listing The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix?

  • http://twitter.com/MissGolightly22 No Thanks

    Hey may or may not be Bi. I’m just saying his Facebook page isn’t evidence of anything.  He seems like a free spirit raised by hippie parents.  I noticed that he’s taken his fathers last name while his sisters have taken their mothers last name.  I also get the impression that he doesn’t like social labels.  I mean, he quotes Puck from A Midsummer’s Night Dream for goodness sake (google it).  I’m still going with “likes to fuck with people’s heads”.

  • Shante

    I have been following Mathenee’s career. Does no one realize that Mathenee is African American too? No one ever mentions that. And he’s a pop/rock singer. No one ever mentions that either. Isn’t that something to think about, that there are no pop/rock singers in the competition? And has there EVER been an African American pop/rock contestant al la Lenny Kravitz or Prince? I went back over the performances (of all the contestants they showed in Hollywood) today to refresh myself after seeing this post again and having commented earlier in the thread and I thought the few seconds of his more than a feeling this season were genius. I love that song and his tone on it was so different and awesome compared to the original! Mathenee may be over the top, as the original poster, NOT mj :-) has said, but I’d much rather have over the top than boring, predictable and plain and simply NOT good. JDA is over the top but in a completely different way. I think Mathenee is one to watch. Especially since no ones watching him at all. IMO. I’m a BIG fan of his ever since i saw him in Pittsburgh. He seems like a nice guy and that counts for something. I hope they show him more and that he gets a fair shot.

  • MellyPer1692

    “You can think what you want. I’m going with bi on this one.
    The rest that are in question are TBD at this point.

    Why does it matter so much?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4NGVYB24TB3RAS57EW4NU5Q4MM Katie

    I read that Jimmy Smith graduated with a Master’s degree at 23…i bet he hasn’t had as much to build his music before now.  I’ve been impressed with his performances.  I did think that while his edit was better than some of the guys, i thought that it definately didn’t show his personality as much as his Charlotte auditions.  I’ve been able to find a couple of you tube video performances that are pretty solid.  At his Jimmy Smith Music page there are video links also.  Looking forward to seeing more out of him.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4NGVYB24TB3RAS57EW4NU5Q4MM Katie

    I saw that Jimmy Smith graduated at age 23 with a Master’s degree and didn’t see that for some of the others.  I would expect that he probably didn’t have a lot of time before now to focus as much on the music.  I felt that he’s been pretty solid in the two auditions that have been shown…but felt his edit in HW didn’t show a lot of his personality.  He seemed like a pretty cool guy on his Charlotte audition.  Looking forward to seeing what he brings in Vegas!  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kody-Baker/100002601130200 Kody Baker

    Top 10 guys should be: 
    – Lazaro Arbos
    – Vincent Powell 
    – Charlie Askew
    – Johnny Keyser
    – Devin Velez
    – JADA
    – Jimmy Smith
    – Nick Boddington
    – Bryant Tadeo
    – Cortez Shaw 

    Top 5 guys should be:
    – Johnny Keyser
    – Devin Velez
    – Nick Boddington
    – Jimmy Smith
    – Vincent Powell

    But, that’s just my opinion.. lol

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/D3M7HMQJO6FR7KB2XKVQK7EJHY ShannonM

    Somebody here raised the question regarding if JADA is Josh Davila- and the answer is Yes!  : )

  • irockhard

    That would be the best they can do with who they have left but until I see a cast where every radio format is represented (S10’s cast came the closest) it’s still not good enough.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Why shouldn’t it?

    I like to see a little diversity in top 40, 20, 10 contestants.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    I don’t need to google it. He is a theatre kid, he knows about Shakespeare and so do I. That’s Theatre 101 right there.

    He identified himself as interested in both sexes on facebook. You can keep presenting different scenarios all day, but I’m going with the more obvious conclusion, until Charlie says otherwise.

  • blackberryharvest

    If I were choosing the top 10 guys I would choose:

    Devin Velez
    Burnell Taylor
    David Willis
    Cortez Shaw
    Chris Watson
    Paul Jolley
    Nick Boddington
    Josh Holiday
    Charlie Askew
    Lazaro Arbos
    Bryant Tadeo

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

     That’s 11 :P

  • Incipit

    I like to see a some diversity in top 40, 20, 10 contestants. 

    OK, Taylor. I’m mostly interested in their talents, and whether they can bring it on the Idol stage, when it counts – but if you want diversity – totally based on his Facebook page, I don’t think you can get better than a Wizard-in-Training? Charlie identified himself as that on Facebook too. *snerk* 

    “His Facebook page also says that he works at the Little Shop of Horrors and goes to Graduate school at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry (where’s he’s a Hufflepuff) and he graduated high school from a Turtle Shell. I’m not taking anything on that page seriously.”
    -courtesy of No Thanks 

    Not cherry picking the page, or taking any of it seriously either – but that sounds like fun!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PVEFG2TOUIXSROKUSO2O2DOWWE Taylor

    Incipit, you and I are looking for different things when it comes to who we would like to see end up in the top 10 or 20. You can design your wishlist around talent only, but my wishlist for the top 10 is going to include wanting talent PLUS some diversity. 

    I’ll take a bi wizard in training in the top 10! snerk

  • sdmama

    I do not know if anybody can sweat on a cue like that. If that is the case, impressive. Paul being a nervous wreck was not pretty. I cannot imagine he is dumb enough to pretend to be nervous, but I might be wrong…

  • sdmama

    I wonder about that, too.
    When you talk, you have to think what to say. Singing or play is fixed. No change from what is defined. So maybe that is why you uncle can perform?
    I also heard that hearing what they are saying causes stuttering. So if you blast music with headset while reading or making a speech, you will not stutter.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5HGXDY5SA4QJRME7OQJXRJYE4M James M.

    Per Paul’s Twitter, he said he was nervous and emotional because he was dealing with the death of a close friend, of which he got informed before Hollywood. He wasn’t very well put together in the few moments we saw of him in Hollywood. His group performance was a bit of a wreck, and although he sang well, it probably all came to a head on the last song he sang. I suppose that explains it.